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Geek First Podcast. I am one of your hosts, the
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alien again. And where's our handy dandy? Oh his eyes
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here talking to Alien Earth.
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what else has been going on lately?
Speaker 3: You did a side quest? Right?
Speaker 2: I did a side quest with Dylan. Yeah. We went
over Opening Night Live for the games Con games Con there,
and yeah, it was. It was an action packed episode.
It was like a two and a half hour conference thing.
And there's a big Kirby air Riders Nintendo direct that
we paired up on that and we also talked Sword
of the Sea, so if you've heard about that game
that's the latest PlayStation released. Yeah, no, it was. It
was a fun episode. We had a lot of fun
and uh yeah, what else? What else is that?
Speaker 3: What else has been popping?
Speaker 2: It's only Tuesday, it feels like it's later on in
the week. For me, it feels more like it should
be Wednesday. I'm not saying that I've had a bad week,
but which is? It feels like a lot's happened.
Speaker 3: That's what my coworker said today.
Speaker 1: We're walking into work at eight am, like, you know,
it feels like Friday today.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not that's not a good. That's not good.
Speaker 2: You know, you're off in his coffee, He's like pregaming
for the week.
Speaker 3: I think it feels like Friday.
Speaker 1: T G I have right, no, no, but yeah, so
Alien Earth we're doing those right now. And then we
got the Peacemaker review season two that's popping off, and
we've got Dexter. We've got the semi finale finale of
Deksta this week and then the finale next week, which
I realized I'm gonna be missing so you and Travis
on the Fort because I'm gonna be out of towns.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna been remote in You'll be like John with
h just walking around and.
Speaker 3: I'll be walking around the hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll be checking out that review when you
guys are doing it, so.
Speaker 2: We'll get your thoughts in the future possible after nine.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, what else do we have creeping in right now?
We got some stuff newscasts and whatnots, and some other
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Speaker 3: Your Top ten TV showstopped the video games and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, there's just stuff cooking, episodes
popping off.
Speaker 3: Travis told yous that.
Speaker 1: Are happening and whatnot. So yeah, lots of stuff going on.
Just check our feeds to get all the latest and
greatest details. So, without further ado, Kirkland, you were not
here last week, were you?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I was not give us give us your your vibes.
Speaker 3: On episode three and then leading to your non spoilers for.
Speaker 2: This one vibes. My vibes were. They were higher than
they were for the opening two for that we got.
I I there was some things I did. I mean,
I'm not gonna rehash what I said in that first
week's episode, but I feel like just the initial introduction
and like the sending us off on this adventure in
this new world. That is this Alien Earth event, like
based what is it two years before the like the
events of Alien. If I'm not mistaken or sorry Alien Aliens.
I'm a little a little fuzzy on all the details
right now, but.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 2: Two years two years before Aliens Alien, Oh the first Alien? Yes, okay, see,
like that type of stuff of just thinking that, like
this is stuff like this is happening two years before Ripley,
you know it encounters the Xenomorph and like where we
were when that movie release, of like the sending off
of of what the Xenomorph is and just the whole
introduction of this world. Knowing that is in two years.
While watching the show, I feel like it bothers me
a little bit because I don't necessarily love just the
I guess the lore of what's going on on Earth,
like like we haven't seen a lot of stuff with
the Five and the specifics of like who's running the world,
but just what's been shown I think through the show,
I just haven't necessarily been loving based on what I've
already seen through the Alien movies, if that makes any
sense at all, But just having that as like a
little cloud over me throughout the entire adventure is something
that I think will hinder my overall score by the
end of it. And just yeah, just thinking of like
this syncing in with the rest of the Alien franchise,
and of course the First Any Movie being one of
my favorite favorite movies of all time. I just that's
a masterpiece of my mind and it's just such a
great piece of sci fi, you know, horror it Anyways,
I did enjoy the overall adventure though, now that we're
in the second week and I can kind of look
past that a little bit more like, Okay, yeah, I
I know our players, I know this boy Wonder, I
know Wendy, I I know are Yeah, just the rest
of the cast and and who we're going on this
adventure with. And I am enjoying the performances and just
some of the dynamics between other characters. I'm liking, like
Timothy Oliphant's character. I'm really vibing with just where we
are with with with the show. I think it's more
so just my enjoyment of him more than anything, and
just to have this in this role, which is different
than you know, what we've had in the past, I'm
upset that we can't use our freaking star Wars and
Suro anymore because of the monetization music. But just because
I I love Yeah, I love Timmy, and it's it's
it's it's fitting for the show. It would have been
a good one to throw on for the introductions there.
But anyway, get getting back to my just overalls for
last week. Yeah, I'm definitely a lot more pause on
the show. I think I think I still have some
negatives the boy genius. I don't even like what's his
actual name, Pois Caviar, Poi Poi Cavalier, something like that.
Speaker 3: It is it is boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then he's also the barefoot bastard because he's
never wearing shoes. I am maybe warming up to him
a little bit more than I did initially. I think
it's more so just the performance, like the actor, like
I can appreciate to a certain level of like him
playing the character that is the boy Cavalier. But I
just am so annoyed with the character and and and
just his I don't know, just just maybe some of
the writing around him. Yeah, I I think I could
have just maybe taken a lot less of him and
have more of like like I don't know, maybe more
Timmy Oliphant in a more main role.
Speaker 1: But did you think he was going to get it
last week when he's leaning over the egg and he's
like giggling about it and pulls him back when it opens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I'm hoping that is his eventual I mean
minor spoiler. I guess that doesn't happen in this episode,
but just his eventual demise. I am curious how it's
gonna go. I think it will go kind of in
that in that direction, But yeah, I did. I didn't
think it was gonna happen right then there Timmy was
too quick on the on the rescue. But yeah, so
so last week it was definitely a step up, and
I think this week's episode was a even further step up.
I I did watch last week's episode, like just yesterday,
so it is pretty just in the forefront of the memory.
So I might be like mixing some some some scenes together,
but no, I I I did enjoy that. That's what
was I gonna say. I can't remember now enjoyed last week,
But this week I am a step up in in
the pun a divy direction. Also, I think there's a
really crazy sequence that happened kind of in the first
act of this episode, just like sci fi horror, And yeah,
I was really disturbed and interested on just what this
is going to be meaning for the rest of the
show and just just how it's going to progress, and
probably a terrible direction, like all these alien adventures go
when humans are messing with aliens and gene splicing and
whatever the hell they're doing. But yeah, I know, I'm I'm,
I am interested in some of the stuff that's going on,
and then yeah, so some other things I don't love,
but I don't know. It's a really good looking show.
It's fun to watch and follow like week to week,
and uh, yeah, I'm I'm glad I'm not just hating
it because that would be unfortunate every week, just really
not digging with certain characters. And yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1: This episode definitely had the heb G and there was
some stuff going on that I really really liked with
one of these alien creatures. It was a very intense moment.
But yeah, it's just kind of, you know, moving the
plot along and kind of outlining.
Speaker 3: I guess it would be.
Speaker 1: I think last week I said that Travis are like
three distinct narratives that we're kind of moving forward here, and.
Speaker 3: So I guess it's still still three.
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of things that I was reading
about over the course of this week, and after today's episode,
it makes me feel a little bit more reaffirmed on
the possibilities of these different things, and I'll mention them
again the spoilers, but with all the Font's character in particular.
But there's just some interesting stuff going on. So I
think this was a really really fun time and it
was very very freaky, and the ending had me really
really interested and I'm curious to see where that's gonna go.
But yeah, I just think that we're on a really
really good path so far, and then I'm really enjoying it.
The one thing, if I had to say, that always
pulls me out, it's just the rock music.
Speaker 3: When the credits hit. In each episode, it's like, I.
Speaker 1: Forget about it, but when it hits, it's like, ah, fuck,
this just pulls me out of it.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Maybe it's supposed to because it's the credits.
It's taking out of the adventure, you know, back to reality.
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah here, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3: Cool? Well, anything else you want to add before we
break it down.
Speaker 2: No, let's break it down and break.
Speaker 1: It down right after the break and we are back.
So do you have a place you want to start
at or can I tipto something?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, you take me, you take me somewhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, So picture of the scene, Timmoth Timothy Oliphant's character
is you tawny droid repurpose? Sorry context, I'm like waiting
for the sentence to end.
Speaker 2: Dramatic pause.
Speaker 1: His theory that that Alphund's character is a repurpose reprogrammed.
Speaker 3: A robot from the Wayland Utani Corporation.
Speaker 1: That's why when the Mara the Maganat Megano ship crash landed,
he was able to just sync up to Mother and download.
Speaker 3: Everything right away and connect with it.
Speaker 1: That's something that someone said in retrospect of that makes
sense because we saw Morow do the same thing, connecting
to Mother and downloading information.
Speaker 3: But he was able to do it just like that, right.
Speaker 2: And especially Yeah, Timothy Olfhon's character is so interesting. Kursh
I think is his name, and just the way that
even like handle the situation with Moreau when he was
interacting with the other two lost children and it seemed
like he just knew exactly like what he was like,
like more so than how another type of android would
react right, or or that they just already know that
he was who he was, I don't know, And he
seemed like like he was very I mean, Kurs is
also just like that when he interacts with pretty much everyone.
But there's something in that interaction that seemed like a
little sussery and adds to that theory that you're pitching.
Speaker 3: And he also.
Speaker 1: Is allowing things to unfold with Moro and the the
kid right the the synthetic, So he's he's hearing the
whole conversation and he knows, Okay, they're gonna try and
lure a human in here too impregnant, which looks like
this kid has chosen Wendy's brother, Hermit, which is not
good for him. But at this point, I'm thinking, Okay,
if he is, he's he's gonna allow this to happen,
allow them moral to escape and get this, you know,
out of there, or something like that. But again, it's
just it's a theory, it's a thought. To me, it
kind of makes sense, but we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I like that idea. He definitely gives off
certain David isms when he's uh and just other like
since that we've experienced pretty much everyone in every alien movie.
They're always sus you can't really trust them. Oh except
for the one Bishop. Yeah Bishop, there you go. Yeah,
he's loyal to the end. But just just the way that,
like you said, like he is letting these things unfold,
and just like how David does, he's just curious what's
gonna happen, like like when he infects uh, what's his
face with with the virus and Prometheus there, So I
am interesting on just where that goes, like when he
eventually confronts Sing I think it is his name, and
and like the one that's talking to Moreau, because yeah,
that's that's interesting. That's like one like adventure whatever you
would call it, storyline arc like like between those two characters,
Moreau and Sing, and I'm not necessarily loving the most
just like the actual specifics of their interactions. I think
maybe I could have just taken a little bit less
like I did, like the scene when they're kind of
getting close to each other, but then like as soon
as he finds out where he's from, it's just like, oh,
it's game over, and uh it just yeah, he straight
up like holding his family hostage now, And it just
seemed like it went really quick. That revealed I thought
maybe it could have been interesting if it like just
really builds up through, like maybe an episode more at least.
So didn't love how that necessarily just got rushed ahead.
And this guy's like already just a wild card now.
You know, he's calling out, well, why the fuck is he here?
My brother's not here, and he's just like instantly now
just like super suss and like acting weird. Like even
when he talks to Isaac, I'm like, this guy is
such a fucking idiot. He wants to be named after
Isaac Newton and he can't figure out that this guy
is the most suss individual ever. It's like, what do
you need from the lab? No, And he's like sweating
and he just looks like a heroin addict. It's like,
oh my gosh, this is just so corny to me.
But so I'm not necessarily loving that. I think the
you know, kind of going all over the place here.
But just another scene that I really did enjoy is
when they're all kind of like talking about the idea
of like what they are. It is in that moment
when he's kind of going after Hermit for being there,
like Wendy's brother. But yeah, for that character, I'm not
necessarily loving the most and I don't want him to
really be a factor through the whole season. I wanted
to be wrapped up pretty quickly. So I'm hoping Kersh
just pulls the plug on on something there and progresses
is whatever he's doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's gonna be interesting to see because
whether or not he does pull the plug, I mean,
his focus is definitely there, but we see that. I
mean a few of these Sins are kind of going
a little bit berserk.
Speaker 3: Right at least.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say three because I think the
one chick who wants to be the number one, I
think she's kind of like chilled a little bit. It
feels like that storyline kind of just simmered down a lot,
especially when boy wonders, like and you learn French in
a day?
Speaker 3: Can you speak?
Speaker 2: So like personal laughing in that scene, it's just like
the father who's like nol never like the second child, right,
You'll never be that character. It was just so funny
because they did have like a nice scene together, Like
I did like that that the scene when she's talking
to him in his office, but instantly he's just completely
blown away by Wendy and.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, which is cool. I love that. We'll talk
more about that after. But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: With Singh's character and that just taking a complete dark turn. Yeah,
it does really really escalate in him trying to get
this egg out and now he's got to lure a
person in there and just shrink at an embryo out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's funny. I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's called Alien Earth, so it makes sense why Moro
Moro is focusing on the hate the one thing I want.
It's just one of those those xenomorphs. I guess the
xenomorph is probably the most of all the alien species,
the most sought after, I would say, just for what
it can do. But I mean the other alien really
put up a It had a very powerful moment this
episode where they really just focused on its intelligence and.
Speaker 3: Actors to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very freaky because it just like took
complete control of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the disturbing scene I was shouting on
on the non spoilers that initially I'm like, Okay, we're
gonna have just the CGI sheep get fucked up by
the alien, but that when it actually like rips out
the eye and then like it's still kicking now and
like observing them, I really really love that scene. And
that was something where I'm like, Okay, I actually really
like the idea of having these like different species as
factors so that we don't just have to have one
hundred Zeno morphs in here that are our heroes are
just dispatching like nothing. Because the fact that yeah, I'm
trying to like not just hold too much comparisons to
just the Zeno morph that like, yeah, I've just experienced
with like the other movies. Of course, there's been different
versions that maybe did the retro and it seems like
there is different power levels at tip times for like
many different Xenos. But like even even when the Zeno
like takes the brother, I actually did like that moment,
like the reveal of you know, we're talking about like
how the hell is he supposed to survive this? He's
not a fucking synth. Going back to last week's episode, Uh,
But then it was like the same idea was gonna
like take him and actually like, uh, what's the word repopulated?
Essentially just just do what they what they've done. And
with that deleted scene an alien that super horrific one,
Like I did like that outcome. But when they actually
like battle and he's just like getting tossed around by
the Zeno, I'm like, man, he would have been just
fucking ripped in half like instantly by these things like that.
Like that does bother me when it's just like a
human taking these the fact that we have so many
of these synths also, uh, like I think it helps,
but just like when it is like a fragile a
little especially this guy, like you know, no direspect to it.
But it's just like they're making the character seem like
little like a little whimpish. He's just like a little
medic like he's not really like a big fucking Arnold
Schwarzenegger commando looking motherfucker. So anyways, side tangent, uh, But
getting back to that other alien, like the eyeball alien.
I I just love that scene when it like comes
back to life and they're just like reading like the
cognitive levels on the on the waveform and it's like
look at it, like it's it's looking at us right now,
and it's just so creepy the way that's just staring
at him. And then uh, timoy feel Olephont's like performance
of just like He's like that is a very intelligent
life form right there. It's just like it's just such
an interesting scene and uh, one that I like, I
really like for for this adventure, and that's like an
inclusion to the overall alien franchise that like, I don't
believe we've seen this specific species before, but like I
think it's fun to have in this uh in this adventure.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, Yeah, no, it's definitely something new and interesting.
Speaker 3: And just when they're talking about it's intelligence.
Speaker 1: I I think they did a really good job of
kind of exposing that and and emphasizing that. And yes,
just the way it was staring at them and it
was listening to them and whatnot. It just wasn't.
Speaker 3: Moving just watching them. I like the uh.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of seeing what this thing would
do against the xenomorph and what would happen there if
the two would you know, is it going to try
and like assimilate into the other parasitic creature?
Speaker 3: Or vice versa. I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: It's freaky because the way you really have to see
it operating on a close up scale here where it
goes into the sheep's eye, it rips its eye out,
and then it's like, even though it has different pupils
all around it, it goes into the eye socket and
then it's it like merges all its pupils in the
one pupil and focuses on something. And I guess it's
just I thought that it was taking on all of
its hosts intelligence and getting smarter and smarter, which I
feel like that's the case still, but they say no,
it's just already highly intelligent, and its goal, I guess,
is just to get into the biggest and I don't
know meanest biggest predator that it can and then just
sit in there for a while and control it. Like
it's give me interesting to see what comes out of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, no. I I really like the
design too of just like the eyeball is so creepy
when it just has like giant pupil that just like
staring at them. It's a yeah, cool design for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Where do you want to go next?
Speaker 2: I'll go back to that scene when they're all just
around the table and and just like they're kind of socializing.
But at this point in time, like it's been what
it like, like, how long has it been since they
like got their new bodies? You think.
Speaker 3: A couple of months?
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, it's been a couple of months. They've
been in their new bodies. Isaac like he's been doing
things and the feeling good about what he's been doing,
like he's working in the lab with kersh. I can't remember.
I think it's Curly is her name, like the number two,
Like she's pretty, you know, she's boot licking boy wonder
and just wanting to be the new version of him
essentially will never happen, I guarantee it. But yeah, so
and then like the other ones are just kind of
having their own I don't know, like I don't want
to call it like like a soul searching it like journey,
but it kind of is because like like what is
life now that this is us? And and just talking
about like wanting to go see their former families. Like
I just like that dynamic of like the philosophical idea
like what actually happened here? Because there's still the same souls,
but like now they're synthetics and owned by this company.
And even when Boy wonders, like number two, guy is
having that conversation with Hermit and just explaining how like
that's not your sister anymore, like you'll never get her back,
Like that is the most expensive piece of property in existence,
just because like it thinks it's your sister, it's still
our property. So just like them actually discussing how the
world works now for for for them. I thought that
was kind of a cool scene and something that I
think and I hope will keep kind of going as
the season code carries on with because I imagine when
Boy wondered, here's Isaac has a name, I don't think
he's really gonna like that because he's all about the
lost boys, you know, and keeping Peter Pan, which I'm
still not a fan of, like at all. There's a
couple there's a couple of lines that they like try
and like make it tie in. I can't remember his
this week's episode or or last week's, but uh, when
he's he's talking to Wendy and uh just doing like
a line from Peter Pan and like, oh you fought
the crocodile. Now you hear the tick tick tick, It's like, dude,
fucking Christ, just stop trying to make these likely. These
these these two points intertwined to make your Peter Pan,
you know, version of what's going on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, well said I got a kick out
of it when he was reading Peter Panno with the
PA system. Just think, if you're working in this fucking
place and this Peter Pan every night.
Speaker 2: You probably fucking hate Peter Pans. Like when we went
at Target and Frozen just came out the in the
and I was working seasonal and they just had like
the single long version going all day. Oh yeah, And
I didn't've seen the movie, but I had heard like
every song and it.
Speaker 3: Was yeah, oh yeah, damn.
Speaker 1: So just the idea too, of just these of roaming
around on the island. We got to see the two
scientists which I can't remember their names.
Speaker 3: They are married, which I had no fu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big drop, Dame Sylvia and Arthur Sylvia.
Her name is dame, Dame.
Speaker 3: That's uh.
Speaker 1: I thought dame was a title like mister and missus,
and then dame is it?
Speaker 2: I don't think it is I think dame is like
like from It's like a fifties way of saying like,
look at these ladies, look at the look at these dames.
That sounds.
Speaker 3: A great dame.
Speaker 1: Title given to women who had been admitted to certain
orders of chivalry.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, nights, you got that, Dame.
Speaker 3: Dame, Dame dame. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So they are man and wife and one
of them is having a big existential crisis kind of moment,
not feeling happy with doing these experiments, and the other
one is just having trouble in paradise running their little
like counselor sessions, which I see it also fucking terrified me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was That was a good scene.
It was it had some paralim to it that yes,
uh yeah, it was interesting. I don't think they have
to be married to like make this story uh like
what it is. I I didn't get any vibes that
they were married before now, and I'm curious how like
they're going to progress with that. I imagine. It's funny.
This guy just reminds me of like the geeky guy
from Avatar, like like, uh, you know, like the other
scientist that works with Sigourney yeah, I can't remember his
name now, but just just similar mannerism of this character.
And it's like same idea. He's like the scientist. He's
not liking like what the company's doing and trying to
go against it. So very much fits fits that archetype.
And for her, it seems like there's times that she's
super against what's his name, boy Cavalier, with with just
how he treats them, because he she kind of is
feeling like she's the mother of these children and like
the more sentimental uh, that's not the right maternal there
you go, the more maternal aspects of like treating these children.
So it seems like she's been like very much at odds.
But then also like when they're having that conversation, she's like, Arthur,
you're a fucking idiot. You have no idea what you're
talking about. I trust boycovid, he's such a genius, and
it just seems like very awkwards. So I imagine they're just
gonna keep kind of escalating. I don't think she's gonna
eventually be like, oh, you're so right, but who knows.
It's kind of wishy washing for her specifically, And yeah,
I don't know Arthur's Arthur's Arthur. I imagine he's gonna
get fucked up by by an alien species. Unfortunately, he
just fits that type of character.
Speaker 3: He does fit that kind of character. Yeah, yeah, but
hard to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like most of them are actually gonna die.
I don't think most of them are gonna come out
on top. I think that's just gonna be nasty accidents
these things start to escape or whatnot. But again, I
and this is just me making like a long con,
long con, long far out prediction where I think these
aliens just kind of live on this private island and
no one's gonna touch it. Prodigy will collapse in the
near future, and that's the that's the end of that.
Speaker 3: But we'll see.
Speaker 1: I feel like if they leave an alien alive on
this island, then they have something they can pull from
in a future Alien Project act.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, for sure. It's just hard for me
to think that it could actually be contained, like if
it's like the ultimate like intelligence wise, like like it
just seems like it's the ultimate organism, specifically the Zeno
And now we're getting introduced to the eyeball thing like
that can easily get off this island if it just
finds a shark right like like like or anything could
get on airplane, you know, take over human it kind
of like it's kind of it's pretty obvious, Like if
I had that thing in my eye, I think would
be pretty obvious. You'd probably just yeah, it was gross.
But yeah, it is a good idea though, for just
future projects, you know, And I could definitely see that happening.
Speaker 1: Like you said though, that these things, it's fast. They
can wipe things out fast and whatnot, and they take over.
Speaker 3: Really really quickly.
Speaker 1: And I feel like in Alien versus Predator, the first
one they were doing the translation, we're like, oh, yeah,
an entire civilization. Entire civilization has wiped out overnight. So
these things are you know, they do move fast. At
least that's just the Xenos. We don't know necessarily what
the other ones are like in terms of reproducing and
and such. But so far we've got I mean, that
ship had a lot of species, but so far we've
seen the insect bugs, the zeno, the weird flower satchel
thing that has the vine that is hanging upside down,
and the.
Speaker 2: Eyeball think yes, eyeball.
Speaker 3: Think thank you.
Speaker 1: I can't remember if there were any other ones that
we saw, but the ship was packed with more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when boy Wonder goes and talks to Kersh in
the lab for like the first time, and that's when
he pulls them away from the I guess it's last
week's episode, but it looked like he was like shining
this light at this little alien thing in the in
the tube. I can't remember what it like, if that
was the eyeball one or not, but I thought there
was more species. I mean, the ship was full, right,
it was a full research vessel, so I matched, and
there's there's plenty in there. They probably have the fucking
black suit, you know, the symbiote in there for all
you know. Yeah, what was I gonna say next? Oh
there is the so yeah, the whole thing with the
frequency of like, what's going on with Wendy and she's
she's able to find this this frequency of like the
xenomorph language. How do you feel about that that she
can just just talk to the zinos.
Speaker 1: That's what I was kind of speculating on the review
last week, thinking, Okay, like this robot would just wake
up and be able to just hear them or anything
like that. But it makes sense that after being battle damaged, okay,
she could tune into different frequencies and pick up on
the kind of chatter that they have. Very interesting. It
has me pretty excited because aliens they do.
Speaker 3: Talk. We've seen them communicate in.
Speaker 1: Previous films, So this is just a much more presented
format that I really really like. So it'll be interesting
to see how it unfolds. And again, it just it
makes sense. She's got the capacity to do it the technology,
so yeah, she's doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I I'm unsure kind of how I feel on that.
It just seems like such a cheat code that she's
just gonna be able to like control the Zenos. I
think I would. I don't. I don't even know because
I was gonna say I think I would like it
if there was like some other reason that, like she's
able to just what's the word? What what does Jacob
do to imprint there? You go imprints on them or something?
And that's how other than just hitting the frequency, I
guess it might be different because that's like a baby one,
like like maybe it is like like if she were
to talk to the adult Zeno, that's pissed off and
fucking trying to murder things, like you think he would
just let her pet him or it's like, hey, hey,
I'm gonna kill you. Story enemy. Yeah, it's it's it's
tough to say that one. That one also, like it
was it a different Zeno because it just came out
of a lung versus like a whole body, because it like,
because the Xenos look different when they come out, like
they obviously from like the first alien. The one that
shoots out is a lot you know, it's just like
a little small worm looking thing kind of what this
was I guess, but I don't know if it was
just the like the light in my living room making
it look weird. It just looked like a like a
different version of the Zeno. But maybe, uh maybe I
gotta relook at that scene.
Speaker 1: I think I got to relook at it. I gotta
do like a side by side. Most Xenos they all look.
Speaker 3: Different, they have very different looks to them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I mean, you mentioned the
the lung. I mean we got that answer. So they
didn't put the lung back into hermit, which I'm glad
they did not do that. They just kept it for
their experiment, and they're pretty open about it too, like,
wait to you see what we did to your your
real life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, weirdly talking, I drew all over it, drew dicks
all over your your previous lung fu having like a
like one robot lung and one normal lung. Like I
don't know, it just seems like that would be I mean, yeah,
science is endless in this universe, so it doesn't really
make too much. It doesn't matter how like if it
makes sense or not it for because I don't know,
it's just my I'm not eve gonna try and answer
that because my my lack of knowledge on the biology
of humans. But yeah, I did like when he just
lays out like, well, you can work off your ear lung.
You can go to a life debt, which is like
I always see so many characters in this universe go
about it, or you can go home. We'll just bill you.
And it's like, oh, man, like what what a what
a vicious world that they're living in. And I I mean,
clearly we've met a lot of people that do these
like life deads through the Utawni Corporation, I guess this
is even the Utanni Corporation. So if there's five different corporations,
I imagine everyone kind of has their own way of
going about it. But yeah, I did really like that
scene I kind of mentioned earlier, but I forgot to
shout out that specific of it.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: So, just getting back to the Wendy talking to the Zeno,
do you think this one they're gonna keep and it's
gonna grow and it's gonna be like Blue and Jurassic World,
Like this is gonna be your hunting companion? This do
we want this? Knowing that this is two years before
Alien the biggest.
Speaker 1: Thing is, you know, trying to control aliens. I feel
like that's just been the general theme that Whale and
Mutani has focused on in the comics and other stories,
and that they just you can't, you can't control these things. Ah,
it's cool that she can maybe talk to it, and
I'm kind of excited to see what kind of things
it's gonna say in response. I mean, we already got
an allusion to our alluding to that where it's like,
you know, we didn't like that it was cut open.
Speaker 3: We shouldn't have done that. How would you feel if
you were cut open? It's like, Okay, well there's there's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, some baseline stuff there, But other than that,
I'm just I'm excited to break down into this a
little bit more further because that whole scene of it
just it shot out through the lung and it was
just on the table, just like chilling there and whatnot.
I thought, Okay, this is some really cool stuff. This
is the content we've never seen before with Alien, right.
Speaker 2: This is the scene. Yeah, that's how I was looking
at her as she's just singing into it. Yeah, I
don't know, I'm I'm interested in just kind of what's Yeah,
what's gonna happen with the season near the end of
like if like what you said, like let's say the
whole thing goes to shit, the whole island kind of collapse,
Prodigy collapses, and this secret just kind of gets buried here.
Like I think that'll help a lot of my issues
I have with I mean, it's it's a prettyquel thing, right,
like anytime they're they're introducing new things to the universe,
Like it's not always the cleanest the way that it
sinks in with the rest of the of the world.
But I don't know, I don't know what it is.
Maybe maybe I'm just not vibing this this earth also
in the universe, but I am enjoying like the actual
performances of the actors across the board and didn't really
highlight her too much. But I think Wendy is still
like just so fantastic. She didn't have like as much
last week, but having her here again now she's kind
of repaired and made the deal with boy Cavalier, with
with her brother, and yeah, just the whole idea of
like what she's able to do with the frequencies and
everything like that, It is interesting and how she was
able to just kind of control tech through through the
different frequencies like she did when she was baiting her brother, uh,
you know, through through the messaging in the episode one
or or two. I can't remember that first week of
the releases, but uh, just seeing how that expands, Like,
do you think she'll get more than just what she's
able to do with the Xenos because it just seems
like if she's able to master that, like she's just
she's going to be just the master of magnetism to
an extent, you know, like just controlling the different frequencies
and technologies and technology is so so big in this world,
like this could she could literally control probably cyborgs And
since you know, if you want to keep going in
that direction of her just being able to like we've
never seen something to that extent. It's not like force powers,
but in theory, I feel like it could happen with
what they've already introduced here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I would. I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: And it's something too where this character has been doing
things without really knowing.
Speaker 3: How they do it.
Speaker 1: I kind of like, how do you say that you
don't do breathing. It just happens and you don't really
acknowledge it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just doing it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, Okay, she's tapping into that kind
of power source now being able to do these things Wendy,
And I mean he obviously sh had a little bit
of guidance when it came to creating that voice from
Boy Wonder, like, oh, you got the hardware, you just
gotta like just do it, don't think about it kind
of a deal. So yeah, it's gonna be just going
to see where those powers really escalate into. I mean,
Nibs is kind of going down that rope but I
don't think her powers are really giving her a baby.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, okay, yeah Pearl. I was like, who the
hell is ni Pearl? Yeah, yeah, I know, nibs. I
don't know how I feel about this one either. I
did like the scene, Like I thought it was really
scary how it was just kind of escalating and like
showing how roll the lady really is, right, Like if
she gets anchored, she could just beat the shit out
of her its. We've seen that happen many times with
with with robots and in these situations, and like it
is still a child in there. Obviously children get temperamental.
It's nice when you're an adult and worst case scenario
to try to go out you can survive. Not that
hopefully it ever gets to that level. But yeah, no,
I did like that. And do you think she did
get something from the tentacle alien because like she held
it with her hand. We've seen it happened so many times,
how easily people get infected from like alien creatures. It
seems like this one kind of has to just go
in the eye, Like do you think she's actually gonna
produce something or she's just fucking out to lunch.
Speaker 3: I think she's out to lunch. I think she's just
cracking under.
Speaker 1: The stress, the pressure of everything that unfolded.
Speaker 2: It just made me think back to that scene because
like they specifically do a flashback when she's like talking
about it and she's like, do you want to talk
about what happened in the ship. It's like, no, No,
I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to
mention that because she was just so terrified about what
had happened there, and uh, yeah, I'm another one I'm
curious about for for how it's going to develop, and yeah,
what's gonna happen there?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Cool?
Speaker 1: Uh, I think I've exhausted my note. Do you have
anything else? Uh?
Speaker 2: Just one thing that I forgot to mention When you know,
we're saying how she's able to talk to the Zenos
now and she's able to talk to like the one
that's hunting them, Be.
Speaker 3: Just speaks perfect English. It's just Patrick.
Speaker 2: As the voice of the Zeno. We've never had a
xenomorph talk.
Speaker 3: On voicing Z you know, kill you.
Speaker 2: That'd be great. Yeah, that would be something that I'm like, Okay,
this isn't canon, this isn't.
Speaker 1: No, no, that that breaks canon for sure.
Speaker 3: Holy shit.
Speaker 2: Which again like I'm still having some of those issues
also of just knowing that this is technically going to
be taking place before all that. It's just I don't know,
it's just weird of like I guess, there's just many
different research metals from Utawny and like they just like
they got one to Earth right, like like it it's there,
it's it's on Prodigy Island. But still we keep just
sending people out there to go get this specific zeno.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 1: It depends how many ships they sent out, I am
inclined to say, and again I haven't read a lot
of the stories surrounding this show, of course, but I'm
inclined to say this could be like the one and
only ship that they sent out.
Speaker 3: And it had to be like a very secretive thing. Ah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it takes like sixty five years, right for
the ship to go out and come back, So that's
quite a.
Speaker 2: It's a whole grandma's life that's old, Old Utani is gone,
that's right.
Speaker 1: It's a lengthy bit of time, so I think, and
this kind of makes sense in my head. Kenon too,
how Ash acted in that first Alien movie. Was that Okay,
we're gonna program all of our wailan Utani synths to
just kind of be on the lookout for these kind
of things that could pop up on your exploits, your expeditions. Okay,
there's a ship. Oh there's Xenomorph eggs in there. All right,
make sure you bring one of them back. Let's let's
get it in. Let's do this, this, this this, because,
I mean, when you look at how agreeable Ash was
in that first movie to just accommodating the Xenomorph, it's
and I understand that this project came out after that,
so they're retrospectively changing it up and making it adapt
so it blends with the first Alien movie. But Moro
was acting very much like Ash was, and I think, okay,
if this ship, you know, if this expedition failed, you
could not get their hands on a Zeomorph. And so
they basically put a protocol in with all of their
sins say okay, if you come across the Xenomorph, get
it back to Earth. And that's what the ultimate mission
was in an Alien. But no one else in the
company knew this. I mean, yeah, it would have been
wailing you tiny and aliens. So in aliens. Uh, they
didn't even know what they were dealing with. What kind
of is you know, morph and all that kind of stuff.
So again, it's just one of those higher top level
security clearance kind of things. And yeah, I don't know
if that makes sense. It's just kind of my theory.
Just the protocol went out widespread.
Speaker 3: Oh your mining ship doesn't matter, you got a synth.
Speaker 1: I also should say too that I think they were
talking in the first Alien movie about how Ash wasn't
supposed to originally be there. They swapped out their science
officer like pretty quick previously to them leaving, so that
could be something pre existing where they knew, like, hey,
you're the ship the strumle is going to be going
along this route here where we picked up a signal,
so maybe it'll pick up an egg kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, contingencies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyways, is that what it's called?
Speaker 3: Winter contingency Halo reach?
Speaker 2: Fuck? Yeah, new wrangle bell.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I should have done another ad break,
but I think we we were okay, We're okay. That's
it though for this episode. Thank you for tuning in.
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