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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and be on with Cliff and Bubo. These

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<v Speaker 2>Stock and me.

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<v Speaker 1>Rights on us today and listening watch Limb always.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And now your hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Boobo Fay.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Bobs up nothing man, just chilling hanging out, getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to do a podcast right here.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, my, you're gonnay, I'm getting ready, like building

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<v Speaker 4>Melissa's haunted house stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that is for after the podcast today. Actually, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things on my agenda, and certainly getting

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<v Speaker 3>all the halloween stuff out of the shop is part

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<v Speaker 3>of that. You know, Sammy, she has more than one

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<v Speaker 3>complete shelving unit, and you know, like I build these

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<v Speaker 3>shelving units out a two by fours there they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>two feet by eight feet essentially, and she has more

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<v Speaker 3>than one full of just halloween stuff. So that is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a big part of my afternoon today. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna go buy some pumpkins and all that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff because it is Halloween time, which is at

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<v Speaker 3>least half the year at my house, but it's also

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<v Speaker 3>the most important season of the year, So that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what I'm up to so today, at least today yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>though I was in the woods, I got out to

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<v Speaker 3>the woods yesterday a little bit found a possible track way.

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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty vague interesting. I mean, it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 3>like one print in the ground, and it wasn't clear

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<v Speaker 3>by any means, but there were toes at least what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interpreting is toes. But it was on a rocky

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<v Speaker 3>gravelly road, actually the same spot I took you when

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<v Speaker 3>you me and Dave went out last year. At some

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<v Speaker 3>point right at that intersection there, I observed four tracks

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<v Speaker 3>in the ground, and I think I was a three track,

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<v Speaker 3>no One two. There were three clearly observable, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm missing one, and there was also a partial

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<v Speaker 3>that might have been one. It's hard to say. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was missing one in the sequence of tracks.

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<v Speaker 3>But if these were Sasquatch tracks, I cast one as usual.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks terrible. But if these were Sasquatch tracks, it

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<v Speaker 3>was I may measured about fifteen inches long a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more, which is a different new size, new size

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<v Speaker 3>for this place. So far, I've only gotten the fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>which is actually a thirteen and a half and twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>which is actually only eleven and a half. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>a decent chance that this is actually the thirteen and

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<v Speaker 3>a half or fourteen inch individual, just leaving a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit bigger print as all. So I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, but it might be a new one. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to keep my eye on the area, try

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<v Speaker 3>to get out there once or twice a week as

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<v Speaker 3>weather permits. Although I shouldn't even say as weather permits,

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<v Speaker 3>because it dumped on me yesterday when I was out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was out there alone, just walking in the downpours,

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<v Speaker 3>getting soaked. Man, it was cold and wet. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I went to a different elevation and sure enough, snow yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Snow no way, yeah, I mean, I mean, not only

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<v Speaker 3>was it just hailing because the tumultuous weather, but there

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<v Speaker 3>was actually light dusting of snow everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's winters here, man, It's the middle of October

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<v Speaker 3>and the winter's already here.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, I guess that's not that out of the

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<v Speaker 4>organ I guess for this time of the year, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a little early, but unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, this is the time when the light switch

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<v Speaker 3>changes and suddenly it's not nice every day anymore and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's basically winter. So yeah, I think the upper

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<v Speaker 3>elevations are going to be closed now. I might be

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<v Speaker 3>able to squeeze one more trip up to Timothy Lake

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that, but that's about it. After that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it'll be done. I'd like to go poke

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<v Speaker 3>around there. Some tracks are found in November of last year,

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<v Speaker 3>just outside of the Timothy Lake area. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>go check out that area, walk around, see if there's

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<v Speaker 3>anything going on that I can detect. But we will see,

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<v Speaker 3>we will see. We're at the mercy of mother nature

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<v Speaker 3>as usual. Anything going on with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just down with the folks has done so, I

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<v Speaker 4>also not do much. I've called Wally a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get ahold of them, but I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 4>back anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know there's other people down there too. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you can get together some of the old funny big

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<v Speaker 3>foot folks or something and hang out with them and

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<v Speaker 3>be good to see them, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Or organize a pigeons reunion.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, pigeon reunion. Now, I'd get the flock back together.

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<v Speaker 4>There is gonna be a little bit of one on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Really get some pictures for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 4>It's where we went to a grade school. In junior high.

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<v Speaker 4>There is the annual fair, So we'll go down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I go perch a little bit in some

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<v Speaker 3>of those trees used to.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang that in. Those are all gone. Not because of

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<v Speaker 4>us either.

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<v Speaker 3>You might be too big to perch in those things nowadays. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>you've grown a little bit since then.

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<v Speaker 4>I talked with you for yesterday. He did tell me

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<v Speaker 4>that where the origin of the word, because I can't

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<v Speaker 4>remember where the pigeon came from. It it was because

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<v Speaker 4>when he was in when him and tr another pigeon,

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<v Speaker 4>were in grade school, like seventh grade or something, that

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<v Speaker 4>coach wanted to calm the sea their soccer team and

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<v Speaker 4>it was a sisters team's name in the year before

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<v Speaker 4>was the Seagulls, and so they were protesting that it

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<v Speaker 4>was a girl tame name, and the coach goes, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you want me to call you guys the pigeons,

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<v Speaker 4>And those guys thought that was pretty cool. So they

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<v Speaker 4>that's where the name came from, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, you could have called yourself the he Goals. When

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<v Speaker 3>we get old, we can call ourselves the bald Hegels.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good to let you're on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't changed a bit, Bobs. I'm just wearing

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<v Speaker 3>you down. You're coming to the dark side. You're just

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<v Speaker 3>appreciating my humor more. You're changing. It's not me.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well, anyway, it's it is Halloween times. So we

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<v Speaker 3>thought that maybe a fun thing to do for this

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<v Speaker 3>particular episode is kind of get into the spookier side

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<v Speaker 3>of things and you get outside the Bigfoot thing just

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<v Speaker 3>for a second, go beyond Bigfoot, if you will. So

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of people have been writing in and then

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<v Speaker 3>asking for some stuff. So maybe I'll pass the microphone

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<v Speaker 3>to Matt prou and you can kind of set us

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One of our members on the Patreon side, Nick Mackay,

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<v Speaker 2>had written in for our members only Q and A episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had said quote Cliff had alluded to a

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<v Speaker 2>ghostly experience in the past. Although I'm a firm believer

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<v Speaker 2>in the Squatch, I'm more of a skeptic when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to ghosts. Nevertheless, I love to hear ghostly stories

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<v Speaker 2>and was hoping you guys might have something to tell,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I thought, you know, rather than doing that

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<v Speaker 2>in an answer to a question, in a whole series

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<v Speaker 2>of questions, since it's Halloween, we could be fun to

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<v Speaker 2>do a whole Halloween special episode because I know both

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have some pretty good ghost stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had some really weird things happened to me

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<v Speaker 3>in my life, and you know, and people might be

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<v Speaker 3>surprised because I'm the science s guy or whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an advocate of science and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I've had weird stuff happened.

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<v Speaker 3>My weird antenna has been up for quite a while,

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<v Speaker 3>and when your antenna is up, it attracts the right

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of stuff. The whole reason I liked the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 3>thing is because I was such a weird kid essentially

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<v Speaker 3>and weird young adult. I just liked unusual things, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And I stumbled across Bigfoot stuff and I realized that

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't as weird as I thought. And the weird stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, could go in a different corner of my

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<v Speaker 3>life just for entertaining thought experiments, whereas this bigfoot thing, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's biology, you know, and I can apply biological methods

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<v Speaker 3>and that sort of stuff to it, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I started doing. So I don't think there's anything weird

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<v Speaker 3>or paranormal about sasquatches at all, really, And many people

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<v Speaker 3>would disagree, and that's fine, do what you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm only basing on my experience, my thirty years

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<v Speaker 3>plus experience in this field, being around these things, having

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<v Speaker 3>seen one or two of them in my life, been

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<v Speaker 3>tracking them and smelling them and hearing them. Never ever, ever, once,

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<v Speaker 3>if I ever had anything weird happen to me that

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<v Speaker 3>out of the ordinary around bigfoot stuff. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's anything there. But that is I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't enjoy the idea or of paranormal things, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So just to dispel that incorrect belief and rumor that

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<v Speaker 3>circulates about me out there that I'm no fun about

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<v Speaker 3>all that sort of stuff, I just don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>applies to bigfoot in any way whatsoever. But yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 3>certainly had some ghost stuff, and I know Bobo has

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<v Speaker 3>had more than his fair share of ghost weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, fair share, not more than more than well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You're fair share okay, yeah, Bobo. Here here's a question

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Before I launched a couple of short stories here,

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<v Speaker 3>how far back can you remember, Like how old were

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<v Speaker 3>you when you had some some of your very very

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<v Speaker 3>first weird things happened to.

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<v Speaker 4>You My next door neighbor's house, which since it's been

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<v Speaker 4>torn down. When I was growing up, they had weird

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<v Speaker 4>stuff out at their house, Like did hear the drawers

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<v Speaker 4>like the civil ware George stuff like that in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was like those little round circle latches that

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<v Speaker 4>like run a hen so like you lived at a

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<v Speaker 4>circle finger and.

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<v Speaker 3>Pulled the drawer out, oh kah, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>door knocker or something like.

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<v Speaker 4>That, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, those would go off sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that a couple times. They talk about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I heard it once or twice.

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<v Speaker 3>And how old were you then?

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<v Speaker 4>Junior high like maybe like you know, under sixteen, like

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere from twelve to fifteen. But I didn't seeing or

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<v Speaker 4>hear anything. They never felt anything. The person I had

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<v Speaker 4>that was like really weird para normally was the Evering

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<v Speaker 4>around two thousand, two thousand and two somewhere there was

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<v Speaker 4>when I had my first where I saw like that

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<v Speaker 4>shadow thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you tell us a little bit more about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I don't. I can't remember which one this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh. I was living in that house and we were

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<v Speaker 4>moving out, and I had that by big pit bull Dday,

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<v Speaker 4>that big one hundred and five pound pit bull that

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<v Speaker 4>was like a really good guard dog, and he was

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<v Speaker 4>he was chilling there with me and I was in

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<v Speaker 4>the bedroom and we had a big open door with

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<v Speaker 4>like a ten foot wide doorway going into the kitchen

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<v Speaker 4>So and everyone told us it was haunted, but it

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<v Speaker 4>made so much noise all the time anyways that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I can feel it, and I was like, I don't,

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<v Speaker 4>after being there for several years, it was moving out

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<v Speaker 4>and I was actually unloading my shotgun, you know, put

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<v Speaker 4>the living room. I mean it in the kitchen area.

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<v Speaker 4>The kitchener had like a like a ten foot wide doorway,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So we had an old quilt pinned up

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<v Speaker 4>and dining area where we hung out because the kitchen

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<v Speaker 4>that curtain lifted up and the shadow went through like

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I thought it was like someone saw that

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<v Speaker 4>but came into sea or something. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 4>out and DD he was barking and charging out and

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<v Speaker 4>his outboard right there boat was there, and I said, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>I go, and he's like, no one's no one's here.

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<v Speaker 4>And I ran and looked down through the field and

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<v Speaker 4>there was there was no one there, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>they must all they went into the bathroom. So I

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<v Speaker 4>could go off the kitchen into the bathroom and there's

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<v Speaker 4>a pantry in there, and I thought, it's in the

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<v Speaker 4>pantry of the bathroom, and I ran and there was

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<v Speaker 4>have circled back through the house and there was nobody there.

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<v Speaker 4>And then a couple years that I've heard about the

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<v Speaker 4>shadow people whatever you like, people like there's just a

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<v Speaker 4>silhouette of a black shadow and that's I guess what

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<v Speaker 4>I saw. It was. It was perplexing and befuddling, but

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't like scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>because not all ghost things or whatever are scary.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you're like, what the heck was that? Then you

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<v Speaker 3>realize later that shouldn't have been there. I've even heard

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<v Speaker 3>which is probably the first instinct of most people. Stay

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<v Speaker 4>I did have one another weird thing happened the time

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<v Speaker 4>I saw was I remember it was December two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and one, and I was staying at the Volcanhouse on

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<v Speaker 4>North Shore, a walk he read at Pipeline and one

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<v Speaker 4>of the guys lived this guy Brucey Bruce Earns. He'd

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<v Speaker 4>won the Pipe Masters that day. There's this huge party

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<v Speaker 4>and so it's just going richter. And then that night

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<v Speaker 4>I was outside because it started getting pretty dark and

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<v Speaker 4>like real bad energy, like really better. There was a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of fights and then so I was outside with

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<v Speaker 4>this guy Kai Kyborg. He was like two time super

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<v Speaker 4>heavyweight street Fighting Chapter of the World down on Rio.

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<v Speaker 4>It was himming, and this guy Sunny Garcia, who was

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<v Speaker 4>like this. He was a really well known kind of

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<v Speaker 4>Hawaiian guy, like he'd win the world title like the

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<v Speaker 4>year before or two years before, something like that for

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<v Speaker 4>a pro server. He was a big, pretty buff dude.

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<v Speaker 4>He was. He was a known tough guy whatever. And

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<v Speaker 4>so the three of us are sitting out there talking

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<v Speaker 4>and we were like, my masis is getting pretty ugly

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<v Speaker 4>in there, and Ty was getting ready to throw everybody out.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're sitting and I'm looking I had my back

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<v Speaker 4>to the house looking at the ocean, and Ty was forty.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like a ninety yeree angle from the beach

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<v Speaker 4>looking he was looking down like up up the beach,

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<v Speaker 4>looking east. And then Sonny was he had his back

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<v Speaker 4>to the ocean looking at the party. Then be off

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<v Speaker 4>to like Sonny's left shoulder on the right side on

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<v Speaker 4>my right in the bushes, it's just a small space

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<v Speaker 4>like maybe twelve feet wide, like fifteen feet at the most,

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<v Speaker 4>like twelve feet were some bushes there along between and

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<v Speaker 4>sand and the and the where it drops off down

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<v Speaker 4>on the beach from the property, there's there's still about

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<v Speaker 4>twelve foot space and in those bushes, I swear to

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<v Speaker 4>you also there's like three heads just kind of I materialized.

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<v Speaker 4>They were all kind of brown, like what were they

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<v Speaker 4>almost see through looking, but they were like three or

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<v Speaker 4>four times the size of a normal human head. They were.

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<v Speaker 4>They were big. They were probably like you know, two

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<v Speaker 4>foot by like you know, twenty four by eighteen inches

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that, you know, something like that. And

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<v Speaker 4>they were all like touching each other, like three dots

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<v Speaker 4>like a pyramid shape, almost like like a pyramid tilted

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<v Speaker 4>on its side. I guess, Eric hunos whatever. So that

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<v Speaker 4>was a hey out. That was a hay out they sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 4>Right where we were standing was a hayout. They used

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<v Speaker 4>to do sacrifices there. What's a heyout like a temple

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<v Speaker 4>old Hawaiian temple area. So I go, no way, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some ghost heads and I don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>even looks. He just goes and Sonny just started chanting, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess, I guess, but he was singing. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like a chant was he was saying I'm sunny

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<v Speaker 4>from the this and this family line, and you chant

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<v Speaker 4>out like your your back of your family linear and

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<v Speaker 4>who your family vanquished, because those might be ghosts of

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<v Speaker 4>someone that your family killed, that you killed them. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not like you got to be scared because your family

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<v Speaker 4>killed him. Is like we're more powerful than you, Like

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<v Speaker 4>this is my family line, Like whatever your family line is,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not as powerful with my family line. It's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like how I guess he explained it later, but

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<v Speaker 4>like he started chating like like these Hawaiian I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know what the hell he was saying. I guess it

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<v Speaker 4>was mostly just names, like saying like the son of

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<v Speaker 4>the son of that. And then Tony closed your eyes

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<v Speaker 4>and looked down. They both had their eyes closed looking down,

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<v Speaker 4>and I did. And then I close my eyes and

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<v Speaker 4>looked down. I waited about thirty six. I opened up

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<v Speaker 4>my looks and I go, they're still there. He's like,

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<v Speaker 4>close your eyes and look down, and he just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>say nothing, and Sonny was doing his little pant thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I closed my eyes for like another thirty teaingons

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<v Speaker 4>I opened them again, they were gone. Yeah, So that's

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<v Speaker 4>the only time i've ever seen the ghosts. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I thought a second settlement in Ohio. But

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<v Speaker 4>it turned out to not be a shadow man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was actually a Sasquatch. Yeah, that that was.

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<v Speaker 3>That was pretty funny. I remember I went to the

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<v Speaker 3>You were in the suv at the time because you'd

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<v Speaker 3>already finished your interview, and I go, bobes Man, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a dude. You go, Clive, I think I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>shadow man. What there are shadow mass No, No, you

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<v Speaker 3>you saw a Sasquatch. I came here to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>there's one here right now. It's like shadow man. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the most logical explanation. That was a big foot man.

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<v Speaker 3>It followed us back to the base camp. It was cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Flippy had a rock strewn at him. I heard knocks

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<v Speaker 3>while I was doing my interview, and several of the

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<v Speaker 3>producers got, you know, pretty close with that thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know you saw it, and a couple other people

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<v Speaker 3>heard it and got scared out of their place and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not paranormal, that's just the big foot stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So that female pretty sure that smoked cigarettes, that she

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<v Speaker 4>was banished and gout and smoked away from you. Know,

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<v Speaker 4>the main area. She went down by the river. She

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<v Speaker 4>thought it was met with her, like going back and forth, grumbling,

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<v Speaker 4>mumbling and like picking rocks down in the creek, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it came up and walked up behind and oh

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<v Speaker 4>and she's flipped out and ran and shut herself like

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't tell anybody till till afterwards that had happened

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<v Speaker 4>to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some pretty cool stuff happened off camera, And of

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<v Speaker 3>course if it doesn't happen on camera, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 3>the show, so it doesn't really matter. Yeah, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so you sound like you're you're dip into that the

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<v Speaker 3>weird paranormal ghost stuff happened pretty late in life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because I look back at my life and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, when you're when you're really young, it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to say what's real and what's not, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the little look at the way like

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<v Speaker 3>small small young children behave like they're clearly on a

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<v Speaker 3>different level, you know, they're they're the veil is much

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<v Speaker 3>thinner for them, right, It's kind of like cats, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like small children, I mean like two or

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<v Speaker 3>three years old, maybe four, that they're kind of like cats.

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<v Speaker 3>They see things and experience or reality that the adults

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<v Speaker 3>just simply do not.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look back at some of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>happened to me when I was very, very young, and

420
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<v Speaker 3>I would venture a guess I was three or four

421
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<v Speaker 3>years old, and I don't know what's real. I assume

422
00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:07.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot of this stuff isn't real. But I had

423
00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:10.680
<v Speaker 3>some very weird things happened to me back then. One

424
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<v Speaker 3>of the earliest memories I have is being at the

425
00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:15.640
<v Speaker 3>end of the hallway. We had a long hallway in

426
00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:17.839
<v Speaker 3>my house, you know, connected all three of the bedrooms

427
00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.079
<v Speaker 3>in some various ways to the living room and stuff.

428
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<v Speaker 3>And I remember, I don't even know how young I was. Again,

429
00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:25.559
<v Speaker 3>this is one of my earliest foggy I do remember

430
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<v Speaker 3>being in my crib. I have a couple weird memories

431
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<v Speaker 3>of being in my crib.

432
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<v Speaker 4>Cheeze.

433
00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.119
<v Speaker 3>That just reminded me of another one. Yeah, I'll tell

434
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<v Speaker 3>you that one.

435
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<v Speaker 4>First.

436
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<v Speaker 3>I do remember lying in my crib. And again I

437
00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:38.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know how old I was when I graduated out

438
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<v Speaker 3>of my crib, but I remember lying on my crib

439
00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.720
<v Speaker 3>and it was a wooden crib. I remember the room

440
00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.400
<v Speaker 3>it was in, ended up being my bedroom, you know,

441
00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:52.079
<v Speaker 3>through my adolescents and stuff. And on the wall was

442
00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.680
<v Speaker 3>a painted plaster clown, you know, like y'all painted up,

443
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, this is like nineteen seventy three or

444
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<v Speaker 3>something like that. You know, I was born in nineteen

445
00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:04.319
<v Speaker 3>seventy so this had to be in nineteen seventy three,

446
00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.759
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy four, so you can imagine the style of

447
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.960
<v Speaker 3>art that we're dealing with. And it was a plaster

448
00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:13.880
<v Speaker 3>clown that had been painted, and I remember it very vividly,

449
00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, and I always thought it was very weird

450
00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:18.640
<v Speaker 3>that sometimes, you know, it was a clown, so it

451
00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:21.319
<v Speaker 3>was smiling sometimes, but other times it wasn't. It was frowning.

452
00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:24.440
<v Speaker 3>And I never even thought about that, right, So how

453
00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.920
<v Speaker 3>a plaster clown could be both smiling and frowning sometimes.

454
00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:30.440
<v Speaker 3>But you know, you're a little kid, you don't really

455
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<v Speaker 3>question these things. And I remember, probably a decade and

456
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<v Speaker 3>a half later, I probably was like fifteen or sixteen

457
00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:40.000
<v Speaker 3>or more, at my grandparents' house when they were still alive,

458
00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:42.920
<v Speaker 3>and you know, rummaging around and looking for treasures in

459
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.400
<v Speaker 3>my grandma's house because she always my grandma grandpa's house

460
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.480
<v Speaker 3>because he had such cool stuff in their like spare

461
00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:50.720
<v Speaker 3>rooms and garage and all that sort of stuff. And

462
00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:53.839
<v Speaker 3>I ran across the clown and it blew my mind

463
00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.680
<v Speaker 3>because there it was smiling. But yet I have clear

464
00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.720
<v Speaker 3>memories of it frowning at me. I guess as a

465
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<v Speaker 3>foreshadowing of psychological issues later in life for something I

466
00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know. And speaking of foreshadowing, another thing I witnessed

467
00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:12.240
<v Speaker 3>or I have a memory of, is that I was very,

468
00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:13.960
<v Speaker 3>very afraid of the dark when I was a kid.

469
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<v Speaker 4>You know.

470
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<v Speaker 3>I think it's part of the reason that I embraced

471
00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.920
<v Speaker 3>the bigfoot thing, because I'm an advocate of if you're

472
00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.440
<v Speaker 3>afraid of something, you should just go jump into it,

473
00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:24.240
<v Speaker 3>get over it, you know. But I remember being I

474
00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:26.799
<v Speaker 3>was afraid of the dark, so might I would sleep

475
00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.039
<v Speaker 3>with my door open, you know, to let the ambient

476
00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 3>light in from the of the rooms. And I remember

477
00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.279
<v Speaker 3>lying on my side one night and looking out the

478
00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.000
<v Speaker 3>door or whatever into that very same hallway, the hallway

479
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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get to in a minute, and I swear

480
00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:42.759
<v Speaker 3>I have a memory of a three three and a

481
00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.039
<v Speaker 3>half foot tall, hairy biped running past the door. How

482
00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:50.160
<v Speaker 3>crazy is that? Like? As far as foreshadowing. That's nice,

483
00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.160
<v Speaker 3>that is that's kind of weird, right, yeah, yeah, And

484
00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.319
<v Speaker 3>of course you know, I'm sure paranormal advocates are going

485
00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.480
<v Speaker 3>see they're inside your house, Cliff, I go, dude, I

486
00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 3>was like three or three. Now, I suspect it was

487
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>something else, something that I don't think it was a

488
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.200
<v Speaker 3>sasquatch in my house. Come on, I don't believe that

489
00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.119
<v Speaker 3>for a second. But you know, some other things I observed,

490
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.119
<v Speaker 3>like one time, I swear to god, I saw seven

491
00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:11.200
<v Speaker 3>foot easter bunny at the end of the hall. But again,

492
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:13.200
<v Speaker 3>I was like a kid, So what's real what's not?

493
00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I still remember what the way it

494
00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 3>looked though.

495
00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 4>I saw six foot bunny when I was five. Really

496
00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.400
<v Speaker 4>it was my dad. It was my dad in the dark,

497
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 4>going around and in my mind, in my mind, he

498
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.599
<v Speaker 4>turned into a six foot tall rabbit. Yeah.

499
00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:29.759
<v Speaker 3>See, that's what I'm talking about. Like, as a kid, man,

500
00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:31.480
<v Speaker 3>you just don't know what's real and what's not. Which

501
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 3>are inventing which you know. It's like it's like kids

502
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 3>are tripping all the time on a hallucinogenics or something.

503
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:37.839
<v Speaker 3>They just have that built into their brain.

504
00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, I need the Easter Bunny was coming that night,

505
00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:43.039
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I heard movements. So I'm a pretty

506
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 4>light sleep, right, I heard something moving around, so I

507
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 4>jumped up and got out of bed and looked dark.

508
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.440
<v Speaker 4>It was dark. There were no lights on or anything,

509
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and I was just like, that's Eiester bunny. And then

510
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.000
<v Speaker 4>I was yelling, sees somebody Seester bunny. And it turned

511
00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.039
<v Speaker 4>out it was just my dad.

512
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've seen your dad. That's a reasonable reasonable

513
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 3>mix up there.

514
00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:03.839
<v Speaker 4>You know.

515
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.400
<v Speaker 3>There's one other thing that I remember very vividly, and

516
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>then this, This scared the the shah poop out of me.

517
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 3>This scared me bad. I remember again, I had a

518
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 3>night light because I was afraid of the dark when

519
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 3>I was very young, and I was probably like five

520
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 3>at this time or something like that. I remember lying

521
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:24.640
<v Speaker 3>on my side, just like, you know, staring at the nightlight.

522
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 3>And I'm assuming this is some sort of in between

523
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.000
<v Speaker 3>sleep and awake state hallucination, you know, that sort of thing,

524
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, But I remember lying on my side, the

525
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.920
<v Speaker 3>blankets over there, and you know, I'm just facing my

526
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:41.599
<v Speaker 3>room and very slowly rising up from from where I

527
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 3>couldn't see it for like next to my bed. I

528
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.160
<v Speaker 3>had a fear of things living under my bed too.

529
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 3>My mom, God was her. She would always say, don't

530
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 3>let the gorilla under your bed get you, which is

531
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 3>a horrible thing to say, is to a child. Because

532
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.599
<v Speaker 3>there's a gorilla under my bed. I didn't know about this,

533
00:24:57.920 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, and that scared me for a long time.

534
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.119
<v Speaker 3>And I think that probably fed my or you know,

535
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.079
<v Speaker 3>put some wind in my sails towards the Sasquatch Island

536
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I live on now, you know, being afraid of these

537
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 3>gorilla things under my bed. But I was lying on

538
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:11.920
<v Speaker 3>my side and it was night, my parents were in bed,

539
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember that. And then slowly rising up from next

540
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 3>to my bed was ahead of some sort and in

541
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.400
<v Speaker 3>the light it appeared you know, gray or something like that.

542
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.119
<v Speaker 3>And I just when the head started coming up next

543
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.759
<v Speaker 3>to my bed, I just remember it as this is

544
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 3>a little kid. I'm thinking, Oh my god, And I

545
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.920
<v Speaker 3>froze in fear as this head slowly rose up until

546
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I could see down to about its nose and it

547
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:43.519
<v Speaker 3>was looking at me. And you know, at that time,

548
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 3>I had already been super interested and really in love

549
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 3>with the universal monsters, you know, Dracula, you know, Frankenstein

550
00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and Wolf all that kind of stuff. And at the time,

551
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>the thing I thought it looked like most was the

552
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Phantom of the Opera. I think it's long chaining that

553
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.880
<v Speaker 3>plays that, you know, with like the deep dark, sunken

554
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 3>black eyes and the weird looking nose and the big

555
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 3>forehead and all that sort of stuff. And it was

556
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 3>just and it rose up to about its nose and

557
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 3>it was just looking at me, and of course I

558
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:21.680
<v Speaker 3>was looking back at it, just horrified, absolutely petrified in fear.

559
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.079
<v Speaker 3>And I remember it's like I was trying to yell,

560
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:27.799
<v Speaker 3>which is why I think that maybe I was half

561
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 3>asleep because one of those things, but I couldn't do it.

562
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I eventually yelled, and then when I did yell, it

563
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.880
<v Speaker 3>just went poop back down underneath the bed. And then

564
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 3>that was horrifying and scary and every single way. And

565
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.839
<v Speaker 3>I still remember all all of these events pretty well

566
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.039
<v Speaker 3>as well as you can looking back, you know, fifty

567
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 3>years into an already cloudy memory, you know. But those

568
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 3>were some of the earliest weird things that I saw

569
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 3>growing up and whatnot. But that's not what the question

570
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 3>was about. Even though I think they're pret interesting stories

571
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 3>and we're in this very very spooky, halloweeny kind of

572
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 3>things to share with the listeners. And yeah, these are

573
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 3>some of my experiences that I have filed away in

574
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 3>my in my memory.

575
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 4>There I almost forgot, I do you have my scariest

576
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:16.759
<v Speaker 4>It was up in Hoopa, was staying at my buddy.

577
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 4>And where they lived was where Fort humblet was or

578
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I think I was called Fort Humble Yeah, where they

579
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.000
<v Speaker 4>where they were at Fort Humbles on Humble Bay, whatever

580
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 4>it was in Hoopa. There was like you listen says

581
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.559
<v Speaker 4>ground had been stations out there for a while. And anyways,

582
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 4>there was the fort, there was a courthouse there, and

583
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>there was a tree, the hanging tree, and that tree

584
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 4>still aran. It was in my friend's yard and his

585
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 4>wife and we went to bed. She came in and goes,

586
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 4>if you have any problems, wrap this bible and ask

587
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 4>Jesus to help you. And I said, well, she goes,

588
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 4>if you need this, there's a bible here on the

589
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 4>butt on the nightstand, take it and say Jesus helped me,

590
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 4>and he will. I was like, all right, And so

591
00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, we were going to sleep, but are going

592
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 4>to bed. I was laying there and I was it

593
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 4>was a sodium light, like a you know, orange lake.

594
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I was a streetlight or a yard

595
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 4>light anyways, so that there was a light outside and

596
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 4>it was lighting up the room kind of. And then

597
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I just remember feeling like this full negative evil energy

598
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 4>come in and I couldn't see anything, but this thing

599
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 4>like kind of came around me, like it was like

600
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 4>a heavy presence in it, and it came and started

601
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 4>crushing my chest and I couldn't breathe, and it started

602
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 4>pushing harder and harder, and I was frozen, and I

603
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.839
<v Speaker 4>remember going like I'm wide out of I remember looking

604
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 4>over at the side, looking turning my head and looking

605
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 4>out the window, going okay, i can see the trees

606
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 4>and bushes, like I'm totally awake. I'm totally awake, but

607
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm like it's it's got me locked up and I

608
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 4>can't move. It's freezing. It's frozen me, and it's just

609
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 4>crushing me. And I was like like having this battle

610
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 4>in my mind, going like get off me, get off me,

611
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, like get off me, get out of here,

612
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, like that kind of stuff. And then I

613
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 4>remember what she said about that Bible that I said Okay,

614
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I gotta get to that Bible. I remember like just

615
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>struggling and struggling, like I got a hold the Bible

616
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 4>and I brought it and I brought it back to

617
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 4>over to my chest and I said, Jesus helped me.

618
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.519
<v Speaker 4>She tell me everything lifted, I could breathe, and I

619
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 4>just sat up straight, like bolted up. And then I

620
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Speaker 4>jumped up out of bed. I was like panting, I

621
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 4>was out of breath, and I was just like, oh

622
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 4>my God. And I always told that story like I

623
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, I had my demon encounter. That was a demon.

624
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know it was one of those you know,

625
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.160
<v Speaker 4>lucid dreaming events, But that was the little scared I ever

626
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 4>was in any kind of situation like that.

627
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, even if it is some sort of physiological or

628
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 3>psychological thing, it doesn't make it any less real for

629
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 3>the for you experiencing it.

630
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 4>No, that was terrifying.

631
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

632
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back after these messages.

633
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh you know, I did have another ghost experience. I

634
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.440
<v Speaker 4>lived in that Victory orient just big, huge Victoria. I

635
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>got converted in like nine different apartments and we were

636
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 4>above the old carriage house up like on the third floor,

637
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 4>and there was two of their apartments up there. I

638
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.279
<v Speaker 4>was gone fishing or something. I came back and I

639
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 4>was like, there's someone broke into the attic up there,

640
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 4>and she goes, I was so scared. I was pre

641
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 4>they're going to come down into my bedroom. And I

642
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 4>was like, she goes, I know they ud they're moving

643
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 4>furniture up there, and they like they're living up there.

644
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like. I was like, ah, that's weird, and

645
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>she said, but she hadn't heard it for a couple

646
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 4>of days. So a couple days later I was home

647
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 4>for a few days, and then that evening, it was

648
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 4>pretty early still, like seven or eight o'clock, we started

649
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 4>hearing someone walking up there and like ragging, like it's

650
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 4>like someone moving like a table, like just with one person,

651
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 4>like moving a table, like dragging it. You know. Then

652
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 4>you're like cowboy boots are like you know, hard, hard souls,

653
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 4>like you know, like dresses or something like this pump

654
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 4>punk punk like heavy footsteps. We're like, oh, there's someone

655
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.440
<v Speaker 4>like there's someone up there. There's someone living up there.

656
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 4>So I goes, you know, this it is called tops

657
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, get them busted. We called the cops and

658
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 4>like I was, probably raccoons broken up there. And they

659
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.759
<v Speaker 4>went and got a ladder and they came up there

660
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 4>and put it up in the hallway and and went

661
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 4>up in there with their flashlights, and like they didn't

662
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 4>go up all the way. They just like poked their

663
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 4>head and shoulders from there and they flashed around and said,

664
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing up here. I was like, that's the weirdest thing.

665
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 4>I was like his creed always say this place was

666
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 4>super haunted, and I was like, no way, And I

667
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 4>was like, I guess. So then then we heard when

668
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 4>we when we were in the hallway, we heard more

669
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 4>noise up there, and the cop went back up there

670
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 4>and shine the light around, and all of a sudden

671
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 4>he just goes And I was standing probably about eight

672
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 4>or feet back from him, of courses towards the entrance door,

673
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 4>and he just goes, well, jumped down off the ladder,

674
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 4>and everyone everyone like there was closter to him, the

675
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 4>media all the like at the scene, everyone like whoa, whoa.

676
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>And then all of a sudden, this oldest air like

677
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 4>like a twenty five degree difference, like drop like our

678
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 4>thirty degree difference. It was probably like six, like probably

679
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 4>fifty sixty degrees out like this thirty degree air just

680
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.559
<v Speaker 4>slowly went not slowly but like walking speed, just went completely.

681
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Engulfment went past me and everyone was freaking out on

682
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 4>the old map. Came down on them and went out

683
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 4>towards the exit door, and it smelt like roses, roses. Yeah, weird.

684
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know the I've had two ghost things happened

685
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>to well, maybe more, but two.

686
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>To me.

687
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know what else, what other word

688
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 3>you'd put on it, except for some sort of ghost thing.

689
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what else to explain it. Two ghost

690
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 3>things happened to me in my semi adult life in

691
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 3>adult life. I say semi adult because this happened in

692
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 3>between my ninth and tenth grade years in high school.

693
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Because in ninth grade I took a Spanish and I

694
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 3>did not do well. I got a D in Spanish,

695
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.759
<v Speaker 3>so I retook it during summer school, you know, to

696
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 3>go back and raise my grade up for GPA stuff,

697
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 3>which is funny because I speak Spanish all right now,

698
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's pretty okay, But back then I just

699
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 3>did not get it. For whatever reason. I think that

700
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't mentally mature enough to deal with it. Lot

701
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 3>of my subjects were like that. I think I probably

702
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>can do calculus now, for example, but I just wasn't

703
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 3>mentally maturn up when I tried it the first time.

704
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 3>But Spanish was a challenge for me at that time.

705
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 3>And so my parents would take vacations every summer, you know,

706
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 3>and they went without me, you know, which is fine

707
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 3>because I was getting at that age. I didn't want

708
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 3>to go anyway, but I couldn't. I was also too

709
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>young to be trusted at home alone, according to my parents,

710
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 3>So I had to go stay at my grandparents' house

711
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>on Stern's Sterns Avenue or road or whatever, down in

712
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Long Beach, California. So I remember I was there and

713
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>one night I was lying in what used to be

714
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 3>my mother's bedroom and my grandmother used it for a

715
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 3>sewing room, and there's some old pictures of people who

716
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 3>I probably haven't related to, but I don't know, and

717
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a creepy place, stacks of fabric and

718
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>you know that kind of stuff, lying around and lying

719
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.200
<v Speaker 3>in a bed, and I remember lying on my right

720
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 3>hand side watching the the i'll say, digital clock although

721
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I imagine a lot of our audience might

722
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>be too young, but a lot of our audience is

723
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 3>not too young to know these kinds of digital clocks.

724
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like an LED screen or what everything like that.

725
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.039
<v Speaker 3>It was remember those, I guess. It was like two cards,

726
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 3>a top fifty percent and a lower fifty percent, and

727
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 3>over both cards the number would be written, but at

728
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 3>certain times it would like flip. Yeah, I remember those.

729
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 4>I had a loe.

730
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm not sure what that technology

731
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 3>is called, but I think some of our older listeners,

732
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>and I say older, like my age listeners, will remember those.

733
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

734
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember staring at one of those clocks, and I

735
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 3>don't remember what time it was at the time when

736
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 3>it's happened, but I was, as far as I can tell,

737
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I was awake. But you know, there's some argument there

738
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe I wasn't, because weird things happened when you're in

739
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 3>between awake and a sleep, right, But as far as

740
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I could tell, I was awake. I remember this quite vividly,

741
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 3>and I was lying on my right hand side looking

742
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Speaker 3>at the clock as I was saying, and then about

743
00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 3>halfway down the bed, the sheets lifted up like like,

744
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 3>imagine again, this is just what I observed. Imagine somebody

745
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.039
<v Speaker 3>grabbing the sheets with one hand and then lifting the

746
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 3>sheets up so it kind of had draped down from

747
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.880
<v Speaker 3>that one place like in a triangular fashion.

748
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 4>You know.

749
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what it looked like to me. Somebody something and

750
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 3>the sheets lifted up. I should say that the sheets

751
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 3>lifted up as if somebody was lifting them up with

752
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 3>one hand. And and I'm like, like, going, what the

753
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 3>And then I felt the mattress at that same place

754
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 3>where it looked like the sheets were being lifted up,

755
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 3>the mattress started pushing down like somebody was getting into

756
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>bed with me, you know. And at that point I

757
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 3>was I was scared when the when the sheets were up,

758
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>but when the the mattress pushed down, like I was

759
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 3>very very frightened, and I kind of panicked and says

760
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 3>it was like halfway down the bed where I was

761
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 3>lying and I kind of lie in a fetal position.

762
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.199
<v Speaker 3>What I did is I took my one of my

763
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 3>legs and I kicked like with the with the planner

764
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 3>surface of my foot, like the bottom sole of my

765
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 3>I kicked off that direction where this stuff was happening,

766
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 3>and I hit something. It felt like a person. It

767
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>felt like I was hitting a person, like in the

768
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 3>mid part of their belly or something like that, or

769
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 3>stirnham or something like that. And as I made contact,

770
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I heard oh, and the sheet dropped. And that was

771
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 3>the end of it, except for the next two hours

772
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 3>laying awake in terror, not wanting to wake up my

773
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>grandparents or anything like that. And I mentioned it to

774
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 3>him later and they said, no, nothing's weird ever happened

775
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 3>here or whatever. You know, But that was the first

776
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 3>time that I think I encountered something immensely ghosty as

777
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 3>a kind of an adult, you know, little kid hallucinations aside,

778
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>But as an adult, that was the first time that

779
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 3>I encountered something that really scared me bad and that

780
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't explain that I seemed to have my face about.

781
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 3>You know. It seems like I believe I was awake

782
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 3>during that time. Maybe I wasn't, and that's the explanation

783
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 3>for it. But even then, it's just scared the heck

784
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 3>out of it. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond

785
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 3>with Cliff and Bobo. Will be right back after these messages.

786
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess, I don't know if I can count that

787
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 3>first one as a as a sighting of a ghost

788
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 3>because I didn't see what was doing it. I just

789
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 3>saw the effects of whatever was doing it.

790
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

791
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of weird stuff.

792
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I did.

793
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I not tell you that story before.

794
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 4>Bobo nod that's gnarly.

795
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah it was. It was horrifying, absolutely horrifying. I

796
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>did not enjoy it. That's why I don't understand like

797
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 3>these ghost people, and we have them on the podcast,

798
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, Nick Grob, Dave schraderor New Like, what are

799
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 3>you doing looking for ghosts?

800
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Man?

801
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 3>That's I mean, I guess each their own. They're probably

802
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 3>looking at us, and why are you looking for giant apes?

803
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 3>It's horrifying. But I feel the same about them. It's

804
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 3>like I just don't get it, Like why would you

805
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 3>want to go do that? I guess the search for

806
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the unknown or thinking that they're benign or I don't

807
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 3>know what it was. I mean, I lived, so my

808
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 3>soul's okay, I seemed and then at the second time,

809
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 3>and this is much more recently, this was seven years ago.

810
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 3>This one happened here and it didn't happen to my

811
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 3>house where I live now, it happened to my house.

812
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 3>At my house I lived in Portland, the small little

813
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 3>house over there off of Sandy Boulevard. So Melissa and

814
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 3>I met her on the show. We dated for a

815
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 3>few years, fell in love, decided to give it a go,

816
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 3>and so Melissa said that she would be willing to

817
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 3>live in Oregon. You know. So after all that stuff happened,

818
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 3>what I did is I flew out to Pittsburgh, and

819
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 3>then Melissa and I drove out together in her vehicle,

820
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, and we always shipped some of her belongings out,

821
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.400
<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff, and so, you know, it was

822
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 3>like a wonderful, cool road trip. Took about a week

823
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 3>or so to get out here, four or five six

824
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 3>days to get out here, I can't remember. And then

825
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 3>we get back on I'd have to ask Melissa exact days,

826
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>but I'll tell you best my memory, and give me.

827
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Forgive me if I'm a day or two off, if

828
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember right. We got back on a Friday, okay.

829
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 3>And then Friday night or Saturday morning, we get a

830
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.320
<v Speaker 3>call that Melissa's grandmother is not doing well. Her grandmother

831
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 3>on her mother's side, she is not doing well. It

832
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 3>looks like she's probably going to pass away in the

833
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 3>next couple of days, that sort of stuff. So literally,

834
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Melissa arrives on a Friday, Saturday, we get the news Sunday,

835
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 3>I believe it was Sunday. We put her on a

836
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 3>plane to go back to Pittsburgh to go be with

837
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.679
<v Speaker 3>her family during this horrible time or you know, solemn time.

838
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Really at least that when her grandmother is passing away. Right, So,

839
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 3>and I get the word on Monday morning that Grandma

840
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 3>had passed away. Okay, so at least Melissa got to

841
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 3>go back in time and all that chize. And I believe,

842
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 3>at least this is what I remember. I could be

843
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 3>wrong about some of this stuff. So Monday morning, I

844
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>believe Grandma died. Melissa was still in Pittsburgh. So I'm

845
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:09.760
<v Speaker 3>at the house Monday, Monday. Monday nights, I go to sleep,

846
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, as I normally do, and then at some

847
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>point in the night I don't know when, I didn't

848
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 3>catch the time or anything like that, for whatever reason,

849
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 3>I woke up. Now to set the scene, the room's

850
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 3>about maybe ten twelve feet square more or less. The

851
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 3>door is on one corner, the bed is on the

852
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 3>opposite wall. Of the door and on the opposite side

853
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.239
<v Speaker 3>of the room, so facing the door. I was lying

854
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 3>on my right hand side again as I often do,

855
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.280
<v Speaker 3>so I could see the doorway, and the blinds are

856
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 3>got letting a little bit of light in, so that

857
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the room has this creepy sort of bluish tinge to it,

858
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 3>you know. And so I wake up in the middle

859
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 3>of the night, I don't know when, and everything's blue

860
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 3>and kind of creepy, and I just kind of wake up,

861
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 3>and I look over to the door, which is open,

862
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:01.519
<v Speaker 3>and there's a there's a woman standing in my doorway.

863
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 3>She looks to me kind of like Melissa, you know.

864
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.719
<v Speaker 3>She had blondish hair, She was looking down, she was

865
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 3>looking downwards, just standing there. She was in a nightgown,

866
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 3>like a just kind of a nighty sort of thing,

867
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>like a loose sort of white, whitish thing that went

868
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 3>down to about her knees. She didn't wasn't wearing any

869
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 3>shoes at all. I remember seeing that. And she was

870
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of blondish hair, at least in the weird like

871
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 3>nighttime moonlight sort of thing. It looked like she had

872
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 3>blondish hair or at least light colored hair. And she

873
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 3>was looking down and I could not see her face.

874
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 3>She was doing a strange movement. Her arms were just

875
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 3>hanging by her side, and she was like stepping to

876
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>her left foot, then back to the right foot, then

877
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>back to the left foot back. It almost like swaying,

878
00:41:55.079 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 3>but like stepping back and forth looking down. Hair aped

879
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 3>over her face, obscuring all of her features. But to

880
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.039
<v Speaker 3>me for all the world, she looked like Melissa in

881
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 3>that same position.

882
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 4>You know.

883
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>And at this point, you know, I'm an adult, this

884
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 3>is seven years ago in my forties. I go, well,

885
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm clearly dreaming this, right, So I kind of like

886
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 3>take a moment. I shake my head a little bit.

887
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.599
<v Speaker 3>I literally rubbed physically rub my eyes and just take

888
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 3>a moment breathe, like this will solve the problem.

889
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 4>Right.

890
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I look back up, and the figure's still there, doing

891
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, kind of going back and forth, stepping

892
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>side by side slowly.

893
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 4>You know.

894
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I can't see her face that whole thing. And that's

895
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 3>when I get real scared, because I figured, well, I'm

896
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 3>going to wash this lady right out of my eyes here,

897
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 3>you know. But did not work. When I looked back up,

898
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 3>she was still standing there. At that point, well, it's

899
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 3>dark in the room. So I reached my hand out

900
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 3>to the little night stand with a lamp on it.

901
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I reached my hand out, then turn on the light.

902
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 3>And as soon as my hand goes out, and this

903
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 3>this woman i'll call her that, it's about five and

904
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.559
<v Speaker 3>a half feet tall or so something like that. Her

905
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 3>entire height condenses down like from from her feet, her

906
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 3>goes it goes up from her head, it goes down

907
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 3>and condenses into this blur like this swoosh like and

908
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 3>it swooshed out of the room and down the hall

909
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 3>towards the living room. You've been to my house, so Bobe,

910
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, you kind of picture this. It was like

911
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>the moments I reached my hand down, of course, I

912
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 3>did turn the light on, and nothing was there. And

913
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I was just horrified and scared. And I look and

914
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.480
<v Speaker 3>so she's not in the room. My dog, So I

915
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 3>call her, soji were soja come here? Come here? And

916
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 3>she kind of trots in the room wondering like what's up.

917
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 3>A few moments later she was sleeping in the couch

918
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 3>in the living room. And that's it. That's the end

919
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 3>of that story, really, because except for again being scared

920
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 3>and horrified for the next hour or two until I

921
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 3>fall asleep again my adrenaline drops. So I don't know

922
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.360
<v Speaker 3>what that was. Maybe it was I kind of have

923
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 3>an idea maybe, since it did that figure did in

924
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 3>fact look like Melissa. I think that maybe that was

925
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Grandma coming to check on her on her on her

926
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 3>way out the door, so to speak. I don't really know.

927
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>It did look like Melissa to me, though, except I

928
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 3>couldn't see her face, and but you know, Grandma didn't

929
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 3>have that color hair, and Grandma doesn't really look like

930
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Melissa and all this other stuff. But you know, souls

931
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 3>may appear a little bit different than the outside appearances could.

932
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, those are my two ghost stories for this

933
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 3>Halloween episode here, So there you go.

934
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>That what is your grand parents house? That's one that

935
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 4>freaks me out, Like that's pretty gnarly. Yeah.

936
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like either one, honestly. I mean, although I

937
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 3>got to see the second one, at least the first one,

938
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I just saw the effects of it, lifting the blanket

939
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 3>and getting in a bed and all that stuff, but

940
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to see anything about a few weird

941
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 3>things happen here too, actually at the house here, but

942
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.039
<v Speaker 3>not very many. But you know what I think would

943
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 3>be a good thing to do is it is I've

944
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 3>had one or two things at the house here. We

945
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 3>can talk about that in the members section, And I

946
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 3>know Matt Pruitt has a good story associated with Halloween

947
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 3>as well. But Melissa, my wife, has consented to coming

948
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 3>on the member section and telling a few of our

949
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>own ghost encounters because she's had some weird things happened

950
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 3>through her time. So yeah, so our members will get

951
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 3>to hear that on Thursday when the new episode comes out.

952
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:32.960
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953
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.599
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954
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.000
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956
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957
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958
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959
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960
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961
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.880
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964
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965
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.000
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966
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>well we'll post this picture to the members. You get

967
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.679
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968
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 3>There's a really neat community being built behind the scenes

969
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 3>for big Foot and beyond a lot of discussions going on.

970
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:19.719
<v Speaker 3>It's really really cool stuff. So maybe that's for you,

971
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972
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973
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974
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Or click the link the show notes.

975
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, or as Matt Proudge said, you can also

976
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<v Speaker 4>Well speak how it goes there. So the serious voice

978
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.239
<v Speaker 4>coming in out of the ether there.

979
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, we talk to a ghost

980
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 2>every week, the ghost of James Boba fe beloved dear Fred. Yeah,

981
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 2>our deceased friend brings light into every room he ever entered.

982
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>God rest his soul, God rest your soul, Bobo.

983
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I think your soul is restless because you're you're with

984
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:54.039
<v Speaker 2>us once a week.

985
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how would that be if Bobo did die like

986
00:46:57.559 --> 00:46:59.320
<v Speaker 3>ten years ago and we've been dealing with a ghost

987
00:46:59.360 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 3>all this time?

988
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:01.960
<v Speaker 2>He say dude, the afterlife sucks.

989
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 4>It's lame. Okay, folks. Well that's it for another episode

990
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 4>of Bigfoot and Beyond. We got the beyond it on

991
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.599
<v Speaker 4>this episode. Not too much Bigfoot or keep it teat

992
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 4>to our name. Well anyways, thanks for supporting us. Hope

993
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 4>you have a great Halloween, and until next time, y'all

994
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<v Speaker 4>keep it squatchy.

995
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.320
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996
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