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Speaker 3: Hello, Bobs up nothing man, just chilling hanging out, getting
Speaker 3: ready to do a podcast right here.
Speaker 4: I thought, my, you're gonnay, I'm getting ready, like building
Speaker 4: Melissa's haunted house stuff.
Speaker 3: Well that is for after the podcast today. Actually, there's
Speaker 3: a couple of things on my agenda, and certainly getting
Speaker 3: all the halloween stuff out of the shop is part
Speaker 3: of that. You know, Sammy, she has more than one
Speaker 3: complete shelving unit, and you know, like I build these
Speaker 3: shelving units out a two by fours there they're you know,
Speaker 3: two feet by eight feet essentially, and she has more
Speaker 3: than one full of just halloween stuff. So that is
Speaker 3: gonna be a big part of my afternoon today. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna go buy some pumpkins and all that sort
Speaker 3: of stuff because it is Halloween time, which is at
Speaker 3: least half the year at my house, but it's also
Speaker 3: the most important season of the year, So that's kind
Speaker 3: of what I'm up to so today, at least today yesterday,
Speaker 3: though I was in the woods, I got out to
Speaker 3: the woods yesterday a little bit found a possible track way.
Speaker 3: It was pretty vague interesting. I mean, it wasn't just
Speaker 3: like one print in the ground, and it wasn't clear
Speaker 3: by any means, but there were toes at least what
Speaker 3: I'm interpreting is toes. But it was on a rocky
Speaker 3: gravelly road, actually the same spot I took you when
Speaker 3: you me and Dave went out last year. At some
Speaker 3: point right at that intersection there, I observed four tracks
Speaker 3: in the ground, and I think I was a three track,
Speaker 3: no One two. There were three clearly observable, and I
Speaker 3: think I'm missing one, and there was also a partial
Speaker 3: that might have been one. It's hard to say. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought I was missing one in the sequence of tracks.
Speaker 3: But if these were Sasquatch tracks, I cast one as usual.
Speaker 3: It looks terrible. But if these were Sasquatch tracks, it
Speaker 3: was I may measured about fifteen inches long a little
Speaker 3: bit more, which is a different new size, new size
Speaker 3: for this place. So far, I've only gotten the fourteen
Speaker 3: which is actually a thirteen and a half and twelve,
Speaker 3: which is actually only eleven and a half. But there's
Speaker 3: a decent chance that this is actually the thirteen and
Speaker 3: a half or fourteen inch individual, just leaving a little
Speaker 3: bit bigger print as all. So I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but it might be a new one. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep my eye on the area, try
Speaker 3: to get out there once or twice a week as
Speaker 3: weather permits. Although I shouldn't even say as weather permits,
Speaker 3: because it dumped on me yesterday when I was out there.
Speaker 3: I was out there alone, just walking in the downpours,
Speaker 3: getting soaked. Man, it was cold and wet. And then
Speaker 3: I went to a different elevation and sure enough, snow yesterday.
Speaker 3: Snow no way, yeah, I mean, I mean, not only
Speaker 3: was it just hailing because the tumultuous weather, but there
Speaker 3: was actually light dusting of snow everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: So it's winters here, man, It's the middle of October
Speaker 3: and the winter's already here.
Speaker 4: So well, I guess that's not that out of the
Speaker 4: organ I guess for this time of the year, and
Speaker 4: it's a little early, but unheard of.
Speaker 3: No, No, this is the time when the light switch
Speaker 3: changes and suddenly it's not nice every day anymore and stuff,
Speaker 3: and it's basically winter. So yeah, I think the upper
Speaker 3: elevations are going to be closed now. I might be
Speaker 3: able to squeeze one more trip up to Timothy Lake
Speaker 3: or something like that, but that's about it. After that,
Speaker 3: I think it'll be done. I'd like to go poke
Speaker 3: around there. Some tracks are found in November of last year,
Speaker 3: just outside of the Timothy Lake area. I'd like to
Speaker 3: go check out that area, walk around, see if there's
Speaker 3: anything going on that I can detect. But we will see,
Speaker 3: we will see. We're at the mercy of mother nature
Speaker 3: as usual. Anything going on with you.
Speaker 4: I'm just down with the folks has done so, I
Speaker 4: also not do much. I've called Wally a couple of times,
Speaker 4: trying to get ahold of them, but I haven't heard
Speaker 4: back anything.
Speaker 3: Well, you know there's other people down there too. Maybe
Speaker 3: you can get together some of the old funny big
Speaker 3: foot folks or something and hang out with them and
Speaker 3: be good to see them, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Or organize a pigeons reunion.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, pigeon reunion. Now, I'd get the flock back together.
Speaker 4: There is gonna be a little bit of one on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Really get some pictures for us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of guys.
Speaker 4: It's where we went to a grade school. In junior high.
Speaker 4: There is the annual fair, So we'll go down there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I go perch a little bit in some
Speaker 3: of those trees used to.
Speaker 4: Hang that in. Those are all gone. Not because of
Speaker 4: us either.
Speaker 3: You might be too big to perch in those things nowadays. Anyway,
Speaker 3: you've grown a little bit since then.
Speaker 4: I talked with you for yesterday. He did tell me
Speaker 4: that where the origin of the word, because I can't
Speaker 4: remember where the pigeon came from. It it was because
Speaker 4: when he was in when him and tr another pigeon,
Speaker 4: were in grade school, like seventh grade or something, that
Speaker 4: coach wanted to calm the sea their soccer team and
Speaker 4: it was a sisters team's name in the year before
Speaker 4: was the Seagulls, and so they were protesting that it
Speaker 4: was a girl tame name, and the coach goes, what
Speaker 4: do you want me to call you guys the pigeons,
Speaker 4: And those guys thought that was pretty cool. So they
Speaker 4: that's where the name came from, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you could have called yourself the he Goals. When
Speaker 3: we get old, we can call ourselves the bald Hegels.
Speaker 4: That's good to let you're on fire.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't changed a bit, Bobs. I'm just wearing
Speaker 3: you down. You're coming to the dark side. You're just
Speaker 3: appreciating my humor more. You're changing. It's not me.
Speaker 4: I appreciate the good stuff.
Speaker 3: Uh well, anyway, it's it is Halloween times. So we
Speaker 3: thought that maybe a fun thing to do for this
Speaker 3: particular episode is kind of get into the spookier side
Speaker 3: of things and you get outside the Bigfoot thing just
Speaker 3: for a second, go beyond Bigfoot, if you will. So
Speaker 3: a couple of people have been writing in and then
Speaker 3: asking for some stuff. So maybe I'll pass the microphone
Speaker 3: to Matt prou and you can kind of set us
Speaker 3: up here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of our members on the Patreon side, Nick Mackay,
Speaker 2: had written in for our members only Q and A episodes,
Speaker 2: and he had said quote Cliff had alluded to a
Speaker 2: ghostly experience in the past. Although I'm a firm believer
Speaker 2: in the Squatch, I'm more of a skeptic when it
Speaker 2: comes to ghosts. Nevertheless, I love to hear ghostly stories
Speaker 2: and was hoping you guys might have something to tell,
Speaker 2: And so I thought, you know, rather than doing that
Speaker 2: in an answer to a question, in a whole series
Speaker 2: of questions, since it's Halloween, we could be fun to
Speaker 2: do a whole Halloween special episode because I know both
Speaker 2: you guys have some pretty good ghost stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had some really weird things happened to me
Speaker 3: in my life, and you know, and people might be
Speaker 3: surprised because I'm the science s guy or whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm an advocate of science and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I've had weird stuff happened.
Speaker 3: My weird antenna has been up for quite a while,
Speaker 3: and when your antenna is up, it attracts the right
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff. The whole reason I liked the Bigfoot
Speaker 3: thing is because I was such a weird kid essentially
Speaker 3: and weird young adult. I just liked unusual things, you know,
Speaker 3: And I stumbled across Bigfoot stuff and I realized that
Speaker 3: it wasn't as weird as I thought. And the weird stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, could go in a different corner of my
Speaker 3: life just for entertaining thought experiments, whereas this bigfoot thing, Well,
Speaker 3: that's biology, you know, and I can apply biological methods
Speaker 3: and that sort of stuff to it, and that's what
Speaker 3: I started doing. So I don't think there's anything weird
Speaker 3: or paranormal about sasquatches at all, really, And many people
Speaker 3: would disagree, and that's fine, do what you want to do.
Speaker 3: But I'm only basing on my experience, my thirty years
Speaker 3: plus experience in this field, being around these things, having
Speaker 3: seen one or two of them in my life, been
Speaker 3: tracking them and smelling them and hearing them. Never ever, ever, once,
Speaker 3: if I ever had anything weird happen to me that
Speaker 3: out of the ordinary around bigfoot stuff. So I don't
Speaker 3: think there's anything there. But that is I mean that
Speaker 3: I don't enjoy the idea or of paranormal things, you know.
Speaker 3: So just to dispel that incorrect belief and rumor that
Speaker 3: circulates about me out there that I'm no fun about
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff, I just don't think it
Speaker 3: applies to bigfoot in any way whatsoever. But yeah, I've
Speaker 3: certainly had some ghost stuff, and I know Bobo has
Speaker 3: had more than his fair share of ghost weird stuff.
Speaker 4: Too, fair share, not more than more than well, yeah.
Speaker 3: You're fair share okay, yeah, Bobo. Here here's a question
Speaker 3: for you. Before I launched a couple of short stories here,
Speaker 3: how far back can you remember, Like how old were
Speaker 3: you when you had some some of your very very
Speaker 3: first weird things happened to.
Speaker 4: You My next door neighbor's house, which since it's been
Speaker 4: torn down. When I was growing up, they had weird
Speaker 4: stuff out at their house, Like did hear the drawers
Speaker 4: like the civil ware George stuff like that in the kitchen,
Speaker 4: Like it was like those little round circle latches that
Speaker 4: like run a hen so like you lived at a
Speaker 4: circle finger and.
Speaker 3: Pulled the drawer out, oh kah, kind of like a
Speaker 3: door knocker or something like.
Speaker 4: That, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, those would go off sometimes.
Speaker 4: I heard that a couple times. They talk about it,
Speaker 4: and I heard it once or twice.
Speaker 3: And how old were you then?
Speaker 4: Junior high like maybe like you know, under sixteen, like
Speaker 4: anywhere from twelve to fifteen. But I didn't seeing or
Speaker 4: hear anything. They never felt anything. The person I had
Speaker 4: that was like really weird para normally was the Evering
Speaker 4: around two thousand, two thousand and two somewhere there was
Speaker 4: when I had my first where I saw like that
Speaker 4: shadow thing.
Speaker 3: Well, you tell us a little bit more about that.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I can't remember which one this is.
Speaker 4: Oh. I was living in that house and we were
Speaker 4: moving out, and I had that by big pit bull Dday,
Speaker 4: that big one hundred and five pound pit bull that
Speaker 4: was like a really good guard dog, and he was
Speaker 4: he was chilling there with me and I was in
Speaker 4: the bedroom and we had a big open door with
Speaker 4: like a ten foot wide doorway going into the kitchen
Speaker 4: area from the the living room dining room. There's an
Speaker 4: old house with like the fourth oldest house in Arcada.
Speaker 4: So and everyone told us it was haunted, but it
Speaker 4: made so much noise all the time anyways that you know,
Speaker 4: stuff settles and temperature changes. You know, there's pops and
Speaker 4: all that kind of sounds. And so I never I
Speaker 4: never listened to people and they say those places wanted.
Speaker 4: I can feel it, and I was like, I don't,
Speaker 4: I don't know. This seems fine to me. And then
Speaker 4: after being there for several years, it was moving out
Speaker 4: and I was actually unloading my shotgun, you know, put
Speaker 4: it in the truck and move it. And as I
Speaker 4: was unloading it, I see the my bedroom door look
Speaker 4: out into the dining room right where it went into
Speaker 4: the living room. I mean it in the kitchen area.
Speaker 4: The kitchener had like a like a ten foot wide doorway,
Speaker 4: you know. So we had an old quilt pinned up
Speaker 4: over that to keep the heat in the living room
Speaker 4: and dining area where we hung out because the kitchen
Speaker 4: was big and kind of drafty. And I was sitting
Speaker 4: there and all of a sudden I saw it when
Speaker 4: I like, it looked like a uh like just someone
Speaker 4: like whatever. All it was just all black, like a shadow. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that curtain lifted up and the shadow went through like
Speaker 4: where the curtain looked up, it went through. And I
Speaker 4: was like, I thought it was like someone saw that
Speaker 4: thought the house was empty because we were moving out,
Speaker 4: but came into sea or something. I didn't know what
Speaker 4: it was. And I had my shot and I ran
Speaker 4: out and DD he was barking and charging out and
Speaker 4: my next onever was flushing his engine on his on
Speaker 4: his outboard right there boat was there, and I said, dude,
Speaker 4: I go, and he's like, no one's no one's here.
Speaker 4: And I ran and looked down through the field and
Speaker 4: there was there was no one there, and I was like,
Speaker 4: they must all they went into the bathroom. So I
Speaker 4: got DJ we ran back in the house because he
Speaker 4: could go off the kitchen into the bathroom and there's
Speaker 4: a pantry in there, and I thought, it's in the
Speaker 4: pantry of the bathroom, and I ran and there was
Speaker 4: no one in there, and I thought, well, they must
Speaker 4: have circled back through the house and there was nobody there.
Speaker 4: And then a couple years that I've heard about the
Speaker 4: shadow people whatever you like, people like there's just a
Speaker 4: silhouette of a black shadow and that's I guess what
Speaker 4: I saw. It was. It was perplexing and befuddling, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't like scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense, I mean,
Speaker 3: because not all ghost things or whatever are scary.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you're like, what the heck was that? Then you
Speaker 3: realize later that shouldn't have been there. I've even heard
Speaker 3: of bigfoot reports like that where they thought it was
Speaker 3: a person or whatever, and then later on was wait,
Speaker 3: that wasn't a person. You just thought it was something normal,
Speaker 3: which is probably the first instinct of most people. Stay
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Speaker 4: I did have one another weird thing happened the time
Speaker 4: I saw was I remember it was December two thousand
Speaker 4: and one, and I was staying at the Volcanhouse on
Speaker 4: North Shore, a walk he read at Pipeline and one
Speaker 4: of the guys lived this guy Brucey Bruce Earns. He'd
Speaker 4: won the Pipe Masters that day. There's this huge party
Speaker 4: and so it's just going richter. And then that night
Speaker 4: I was outside because it started getting pretty dark and
Speaker 4: like real bad energy, like really better. There was a
Speaker 4: bunch of fights and then so I was outside with
Speaker 4: this guy Kai Kyborg. He was like two time super
Speaker 4: heavyweight street Fighting Chapter of the World down on Rio.
Speaker 4: It was himming, and this guy Sunny Garcia, who was
Speaker 4: like this. He was a really well known kind of
Speaker 4: Hawaiian guy, like he'd win the world title like the
Speaker 4: year before or two years before, something like that for
Speaker 4: a pro server. He was a big, pretty buff dude.
Speaker 4: He was. He was a known tough guy whatever. And
Speaker 4: so the three of us are sitting out there talking
Speaker 4: and we were like, my masis is getting pretty ugly
Speaker 4: in there, and Ty was getting ready to throw everybody out.
Speaker 4: So we're sitting and I'm looking I had my back
Speaker 4: to the house looking at the ocean, and Ty was forty.
Speaker 4: He was like a ninety yeree angle from the beach
Speaker 4: looking he was looking down like up up the beach,
Speaker 4: looking east. And then Sonny was he had his back
Speaker 4: to the ocean looking at the party. Then be off
Speaker 4: to like Sonny's left shoulder on the right side on
Speaker 4: my right in the bushes, it's just a small space
Speaker 4: like maybe twelve feet wide, like fifteen feet at the most,
Speaker 4: like twelve feet were some bushes there along between and
Speaker 4: sand and the and the where it drops off down
Speaker 4: on the beach from the property, there's there's still about
Speaker 4: twelve foot space and in those bushes, I swear to
Speaker 4: you also there's like three heads just kind of I materialized.
Speaker 4: They were all kind of brown, like what were they
Speaker 4: almost see through looking, but they were like three or
Speaker 4: four times the size of a normal human head. They were.
Speaker 4: They were big. They were probably like you know, two
Speaker 4: foot by like you know, twenty four by eighteen inches
Speaker 4: or something like that, you know, something like that. And
Speaker 4: they were all like touching each other, like three dots
Speaker 4: like a pyramid shape, almost like like a pyramid tilted
Speaker 4: on its side. I guess, Eric hunos whatever. So that
Speaker 4: was a hey out. That was a hay out they sacrifice.
Speaker 4: Right where we were standing was a hayout. They used
Speaker 4: to do sacrifices there. What's a heyout like a temple
Speaker 4: old Hawaiian temple area. So I go, no way, I'm like,
Speaker 4: there's some ghost heads and I don't I don't think
Speaker 4: even looks. He just goes and Sonny just started chanting, dude,
Speaker 4: and I guess, I guess, but he was singing. It
Speaker 4: was like a chant was he was saying I'm sunny
Speaker 4: from the this and this family line, and you chant
Speaker 4: out like your your back of your family linear and
Speaker 4: who your family vanquished, because those might be ghosts of
Speaker 4: someone that your family killed, that you killed them. It's
Speaker 4: not like you got to be scared because your family
Speaker 4: killed him. Is like we're more powerful than you, Like
Speaker 4: this is my family line, Like whatever your family line is,
Speaker 4: you're not as powerful with my family line. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like how I guess he explained it later, but
Speaker 4: like he started chating like like these Hawaiian I didn't
Speaker 4: know what the hell he was saying. I guess it
Speaker 4: was mostly just names, like saying like the son of
Speaker 4: the son of that. And then Tony closed your eyes
Speaker 4: and looked down. They both had their eyes closed looking down,
Speaker 4: and I did. And then I close my eyes and
Speaker 4: looked down. I waited about thirty six. I opened up
Speaker 4: my looks and I go, they're still there. He's like,
Speaker 4: close your eyes and look down, and he just didn't
Speaker 4: say nothing, and Sonny was doing his little pant thing.
Speaker 4: Then I closed my eyes for like another thirty teaingons
Speaker 4: I opened them again, they were gone. Yeah, So that's
Speaker 4: the only time i've ever seen the ghosts. Really, yeah,
Speaker 4: I thought I thought a second settlement in Ohio. But
Speaker 4: it turned out to not be a shadow man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was actually a Sasquatch. Yeah, that that was.
Speaker 3: That was pretty funny. I remember I went to the
Speaker 3: You were in the suv at the time because you'd
Speaker 3: already finished your interview, and I go, bobes Man, there's
Speaker 3: a dude. You go, Clive, I think I saw a
Speaker 3: shadow man. What there are shadow mass No, No, you
Speaker 3: you saw a Sasquatch. I came here to tell you
Speaker 3: there's one here right now. It's like shadow man. That's
Speaker 3: that's the most logical explanation. That was a big foot man.
Speaker 3: It followed us back to the base camp. It was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Flippy had a rock strewn at him. I heard knocks
Speaker 3: while I was doing my interview, and several of the
Speaker 3: producers got, you know, pretty close with that thing. And
Speaker 3: I know you saw it, and a couple other people
Speaker 3: heard it and got scared out of their place and stuff.
Speaker 3: And that's not paranormal, that's just the big foot stuff.
Speaker 4: So that female pretty sure that smoked cigarettes, that she
Speaker 4: was banished and gout and smoked away from you. Know,
Speaker 4: the main area. She went down by the river. She
Speaker 4: thought it was met with her, like going back and forth, grumbling,
Speaker 4: mumbling and like picking rocks down in the creek, and
Speaker 4: then it came up and walked up behind and oh
Speaker 4: and she's flipped out and ran and shut herself like
Speaker 4: I didn't tell anybody till till afterwards that had happened
Speaker 4: to her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some pretty cool stuff happened off camera, And of
Speaker 3: course if it doesn't happen on camera, it doesn't make
Speaker 3: the show, so it doesn't really matter. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 3: so you sound like you're you're dip into that the
Speaker 3: weird paranormal ghost stuff happened pretty late in life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I look back at my life and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, when you're when you're really young, it's hard
Speaker 3: to say what's real and what's not, you know, because
Speaker 3: I think that the little look at the way like
Speaker 3: small small young children behave like they're clearly on a
Speaker 3: different level, you know, they're they're the veil is much
Speaker 3: thinner for them, right, It's kind of like cats, you know.
Speaker 3: I do like small children, I mean like two or
Speaker 3: three years old, maybe four, that they're kind of like cats.
Speaker 3: They see things and experience or reality that the adults
Speaker 3: just simply do not.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So I look back at some of the things that
Speaker 3: happened to me when I was very, very young, and
Speaker 3: I would venture a guess I was three or four
Speaker 3: years old, and I don't know what's real. I assume
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff isn't real. But I had
Speaker 3: some very weird things happened to me back then. One
Speaker 3: of the earliest memories I have is being at the
Speaker 3: end of the hallway. We had a long hallway in
Speaker 3: my house, you know, connected all three of the bedrooms
Speaker 3: in some various ways to the living room and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I remember, I don't even know how young I was. Again,
Speaker 3: this is one of my earliest foggy I do remember
Speaker 3: being in my crib. I have a couple weird memories
Speaker 3: of being in my crib.
Speaker 4: Cheeze.
Speaker 3: That just reminded me of another one. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you that one.
Speaker 4: First.
Speaker 3: I do remember lying in my crib. And again I
Speaker 3: don't know how old I was when I graduated out
Speaker 3: of my crib, but I remember lying on my crib
Speaker 3: and it was a wooden crib. I remember the room
Speaker 3: it was in, ended up being my bedroom, you know,
Speaker 3: through my adolescents and stuff. And on the wall was
Speaker 3: a painted plaster clown, you know, like y'all painted up,
Speaker 3: and you know, this is like nineteen seventy three or
Speaker 3: something like that. You know, I was born in nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy so this had to be in nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four, so you can imagine the style of
Speaker 3: art that we're dealing with. And it was a plaster
Speaker 3: clown that had been painted, and I remember it very vividly,
Speaker 3: you know, and I always thought it was very weird
Speaker 3: that sometimes, you know, it was a clown, so it
Speaker 3: was smiling sometimes, but other times it wasn't. It was frowning.
Speaker 3: And I never even thought about that, right, So how
Speaker 3: a plaster clown could be both smiling and frowning sometimes.
Speaker 3: But you know, you're a little kid, you don't really
Speaker 3: question these things. And I remember, probably a decade and
Speaker 3: a half later, I probably was like fifteen or sixteen
Speaker 3: or more, at my grandparents' house when they were still alive,
Speaker 3: and you know, rummaging around and looking for treasures in
Speaker 3: my grandma's house because she always my grandma grandpa's house
Speaker 3: because he had such cool stuff in their like spare
Speaker 3: rooms and garage and all that sort of stuff. And
Speaker 3: I ran across the clown and it blew my mind
Speaker 3: because there it was smiling. But yet I have clear
Speaker 3: memories of it frowning at me. I guess as a
Speaker 3: foreshadowing of psychological issues later in life for something I
Speaker 3: don't know. And speaking of foreshadowing, another thing I witnessed
Speaker 3: or I have a memory of, is that I was very,
Speaker 3: very afraid of the dark when I was a kid.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I think it's part of the reason that I embraced
Speaker 3: the bigfoot thing, because I'm an advocate of if you're
Speaker 3: afraid of something, you should just go jump into it,
Speaker 3: get over it, you know. But I remember being I
Speaker 3: was afraid of the dark, so might I would sleep
Speaker 3: with my door open, you know, to let the ambient
Speaker 3: light in from the of the rooms. And I remember
Speaker 3: lying on my side one night and looking out the
Speaker 3: door or whatever into that very same hallway, the hallway
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to in a minute, and I swear
Speaker 3: I have a memory of a three three and a
Speaker 3: half foot tall, hairy biped running past the door. How
Speaker 3: crazy is that? Like? As far as foreshadowing. That's nice,
Speaker 3: that is that's kind of weird, right, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 3: of course you know, I'm sure paranormal advocates are going
Speaker 3: see they're inside your house, Cliff, I go, dude, I
Speaker 3: was like three or three. Now, I suspect it was
Speaker 3: something else, something that I don't think it was a
Speaker 3: sasquatch in my house. Come on, I don't believe that
Speaker 3: for a second. But you know, some other things I observed,
Speaker 3: like one time, I swear to god, I saw seven
Speaker 3: foot easter bunny at the end of the hall. But again,
Speaker 3: I was like a kid, So what's real what's not?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I still remember what the way it
Speaker 3: looked though.
Speaker 4: I saw six foot bunny when I was five. Really
Speaker 4: it was my dad. It was my dad in the dark,
Speaker 4: going around and in my mind, in my mind, he
Speaker 4: turned into a six foot tall rabbit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm talking about. Like, as a kid, man,
Speaker 3: you just don't know what's real and what's not. Which
Speaker 3: are inventing which you know. It's like it's like kids
Speaker 3: are tripping all the time on a hallucinogenics or something.
Speaker 3: They just have that built into their brain.
Speaker 4: You know, I need the Easter Bunny was coming that night,
Speaker 4: and you know, I heard movements. So I'm a pretty
Speaker 4: light sleep, right, I heard something moving around, so I
Speaker 4: jumped up and got out of bed and looked dark.
Speaker 4: It was dark. There were no lights on or anything,
Speaker 4: and I was just like, that's Eiester bunny. And then
Speaker 4: I was yelling, sees somebody Seester bunny. And it turned
Speaker 4: out it was just my dad.
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen your dad. That's a reasonable reasonable
Speaker 3: mix up there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: There's one other thing that I remember very vividly, and
Speaker 3: then this, This scared the the shah poop out of me.
Speaker 3: This scared me bad. I remember again, I had a
Speaker 3: night light because I was afraid of the dark when
Speaker 3: I was very young, and I was probably like five
Speaker 3: at this time or something like that. I remember lying
Speaker 3: on my side, just like, you know, staring at the nightlight.
Speaker 3: And I'm assuming this is some sort of in between
Speaker 3: sleep and awake state hallucination, you know, that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: you know, But I remember lying on my side, the
Speaker 3: blankets over there, and you know, I'm just facing my
Speaker 3: room and very slowly rising up from from where I
Speaker 3: couldn't see it for like next to my bed. I
Speaker 3: had a fear of things living under my bed too.
Speaker 3: My mom, God was her. She would always say, don't
Speaker 3: let the gorilla under your bed get you, which is
Speaker 3: a horrible thing to say, is to a child. Because
Speaker 3: there's a gorilla under my bed. I didn't know about this,
Speaker 3: you know, and that scared me for a long time.
Speaker 3: And I think that probably fed my or you know,
Speaker 3: put some wind in my sails towards the Sasquatch Island
Speaker 3: I live on now, you know, being afraid of these
Speaker 3: gorilla things under my bed. But I was lying on
Speaker 3: my side and it was night, my parents were in bed,
Speaker 3: I remember that. And then slowly rising up from next
Speaker 3: to my bed was ahead of some sort and in
Speaker 3: the light it appeared you know, gray or something like that.
Speaker 3: And I just when the head started coming up next
Speaker 3: to my bed, I just remember it as this is
Speaker 3: a little kid. I'm thinking, Oh my god, And I
Speaker 3: froze in fear as this head slowly rose up until
Speaker 3: I could see down to about its nose and it
Speaker 3: was looking at me. And you know, at that time,
Speaker 3: I had already been super interested and really in love
Speaker 3: with the universal monsters, you know, Dracula, you know, Frankenstein
Speaker 3: and Wolf all that kind of stuff. And at the time,
Speaker 3: the thing I thought it looked like most was the
Speaker 3: Phantom of the Opera. I think it's long chaining that
Speaker 3: plays that, you know, with like the deep dark, sunken
Speaker 3: black eyes and the weird looking nose and the big
Speaker 3: forehead and all that sort of stuff. And it was
Speaker 3: just and it rose up to about its nose and
Speaker 3: it was just looking at me, and of course I
Speaker 3: was looking back at it, just horrified, absolutely petrified in fear.
Speaker 3: And I remember it's like I was trying to yell,
Speaker 3: which is why I think that maybe I was half
Speaker 3: asleep because one of those things, but I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: I eventually yelled, and then when I did yell, it
Speaker 3: just went poop back down underneath the bed. And then
Speaker 3: that was horrifying and scary and every single way. And
Speaker 3: I still remember all all of these events pretty well
Speaker 3: as well as you can looking back, you know, fifty
Speaker 3: years into an already cloudy memory, you know. But those
Speaker 3: were some of the earliest weird things that I saw
Speaker 3: growing up and whatnot. But that's not what the question
Speaker 3: was about. Even though I think they're pret interesting stories
Speaker 3: and we're in this very very spooky, halloweeny kind of
Speaker 3: things to share with the listeners. And yeah, these are
Speaker 3: some of my experiences that I have filed away in
Speaker 3: my in my memory.
Speaker 4: There I almost forgot, I do you have my scariest
Speaker 4: It was up in Hoopa, was staying at my buddy.
Speaker 4: And where they lived was where Fort humblet was or
Speaker 4: I think I was called Fort Humble Yeah, where they
Speaker 4: where they were at Fort Humbles on Humble Bay, whatever
Speaker 4: it was in Hoopa. There was like you listen says
Speaker 4: ground had been stations out there for a while. And anyways,
Speaker 4: there was the fort, there was a courthouse there, and
Speaker 4: there was a tree, the hanging tree, and that tree
Speaker 4: still aran. It was in my friend's yard and his
Speaker 4: wife and we went to bed. She came in and goes,
Speaker 4: if you have any problems, wrap this bible and ask
Speaker 4: Jesus to help you. And I said, well, she goes,
Speaker 4: if you need this, there's a bible here on the
Speaker 4: butt on the nightstand, take it and say Jesus helped me,
Speaker 4: and he will. I was like, all right, And so
Speaker 4: you know, we were going to sleep, but are going
Speaker 4: to bed. I was laying there and I was it
Speaker 4: was a sodium light, like a you know, orange lake.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I was a streetlight or a yard
Speaker 4: light anyways, so that there was a light outside and
Speaker 4: it was lighting up the room kind of. And then
Speaker 4: I just remember feeling like this full negative evil energy
Speaker 4: come in and I couldn't see anything, but this thing
Speaker 4: like kind of came around me, like it was like
Speaker 4: a heavy presence in it, and it came and started
Speaker 4: crushing my chest and I couldn't breathe, and it started
Speaker 4: pushing harder and harder, and I was frozen, and I
Speaker 4: remember going like I'm wide out of I remember looking
Speaker 4: over at the side, looking turning my head and looking
Speaker 4: out the window, going okay, i can see the trees
Speaker 4: and bushes, like I'm totally awake. I'm totally awake, but
Speaker 4: I'm like it's it's got me locked up and I
Speaker 4: can't move. It's freezing. It's frozen me, and it's just
Speaker 4: crushing me. And I was like like having this battle
Speaker 4: in my mind, going like get off me, get off me,
Speaker 4: you know, like get off me, get out of here,
Speaker 4: you know, like that kind of stuff. And then I
Speaker 4: remember what she said about that Bible that I said Okay,
Speaker 4: I gotta get to that Bible. I remember like just
Speaker 4: struggling and struggling, like I got a hold the Bible
Speaker 4: and I brought it and I brought it back to
Speaker 4: over to my chest and I said, Jesus helped me.
Speaker 4: She tell me everything lifted, I could breathe, and I
Speaker 4: just sat up straight, like bolted up. And then I
Speaker 4: jumped up out of bed. I was like panting, I
Speaker 4: was out of breath, and I was just like, oh
Speaker 4: my God. And I always told that story like I
Speaker 4: you know, I had my demon encounter. That was a demon.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it was one of those you know,
Speaker 4: lucid dreaming events, But that was the little scared I ever
Speaker 4: was in any kind of situation like that.
Speaker 3: Well, even if it is some sort of physiological or
Speaker 3: psychological thing, it doesn't make it any less real for
Speaker 3: the for you experiencing it.
Speaker 4: No, that was terrifying.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: Oh you know, I did have another ghost experience. I
Speaker 4: lived in that Victory orient just big, huge Victoria. I
Speaker 4: got converted in like nine different apartments and we were
Speaker 4: above the old carriage house up like on the third floor,
Speaker 4: and there was two of their apartments up there. I
Speaker 4: was gone fishing or something. I came back and I
Speaker 4: was like, there's someone broke into the attic up there,
Speaker 4: and she goes, I was so scared. I was pre
Speaker 4: they're going to come down into my bedroom. And I
Speaker 4: was like, she goes, I know they ud they're moving
Speaker 4: furniture up there, and they like they're living up there.
Speaker 4: It sounds like. I was like, ah, that's weird, and
Speaker 4: she said, but she hadn't heard it for a couple
Speaker 4: of days. So a couple days later I was home
Speaker 4: for a few days, and then that evening, it was
Speaker 4: pretty early still, like seven or eight o'clock, we started
Speaker 4: hearing someone walking up there and like ragging, like it's
Speaker 4: like someone moving like a table, like just with one person,
Speaker 4: like moving a table, like dragging it. You know. Then
Speaker 4: you're like cowboy boots are like you know, hard, hard souls,
Speaker 4: like you know, like dresses or something like this pump
Speaker 4: punk punk like heavy footsteps. We're like, oh, there's someone
Speaker 4: like there's someone up there. There's someone living up there.
Speaker 4: So I goes, you know, this it is called tops
Speaker 4: you know, get them busted. We called the cops and
Speaker 4: like I was, probably raccoons broken up there. And they
Speaker 4: went and got a ladder and they came up there
Speaker 4: and put it up in the hallway and and went
Speaker 4: up in there with their flashlights, and like they didn't
Speaker 4: go up all the way. They just like poked their
Speaker 4: head and shoulders from there and they flashed around and said,
Speaker 4: there's nothing up here. I was like, that's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4: I was like his creed always say this place was
Speaker 4: super haunted, and I was like, no way, And I
Speaker 4: was like, I guess. So then then we heard when
Speaker 4: we when we were in the hallway, we heard more
Speaker 4: noise up there, and the cop went back up there
Speaker 4: and shine the light around, and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: he just goes And I was standing probably about eight
Speaker 4: or feet back from him, of courses towards the entrance door,
Speaker 4: and he just goes, well, jumped down off the ladder,
Speaker 4: and everyone everyone like there was closter to him, the
Speaker 4: media all the like at the scene, everyone like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, this oldest air like
Speaker 4: like a twenty five degree difference, like drop like our
Speaker 4: thirty degree difference. It was probably like six, like probably
Speaker 4: fifty sixty degrees out like this thirty degree air just
Speaker 4: slowly went not slowly but like walking speed, just went completely.
Speaker 4: Engulfment went past me and everyone was freaking out on
Speaker 4: the old map. Came down on them and went out
Speaker 4: towards the exit door, and it smelt like roses, roses. Yeah, weird.
Speaker 3: Well, you know the I've had two ghost things happened
Speaker 3: to well, maybe more, but two.
Speaker 4: To me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what else, what other word
Speaker 3: you'd put on it, except for some sort of ghost thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what else to explain it. Two ghost
Speaker 3: things happened to me in my semi adult life in
Speaker 3: adult life. I say semi adult because this happened in
Speaker 3: between my ninth and tenth grade years in high school.
Speaker 3: Because in ninth grade I took a Spanish and I
Speaker 3: did not do well. I got a D in Spanish,
Speaker 3: so I retook it during summer school, you know, to
Speaker 3: go back and raise my grade up for GPA stuff,
Speaker 3: which is funny because I speak Spanish all right now,
Speaker 3: you know, it's pretty okay, But back then I just
Speaker 3: did not get it. For whatever reason. I think that
Speaker 3: it wasn't mentally mature enough to deal with it. Lot
Speaker 3: of my subjects were like that. I think I probably
Speaker 3: can do calculus now, for example, but I just wasn't
Speaker 3: mentally maturn up when I tried it the first time.
Speaker 3: But Spanish was a challenge for me at that time.
Speaker 3: And so my parents would take vacations every summer, you know,
Speaker 3: and they went without me, you know, which is fine
Speaker 3: because I was getting at that age. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to go anyway, but I couldn't. I was also too
Speaker 3: young to be trusted at home alone, according to my parents,
Speaker 3: So I had to go stay at my grandparents' house
Speaker 3: on Stern's Sterns Avenue or road or whatever, down in
Speaker 3: Long Beach, California. So I remember I was there and
Speaker 3: one night I was lying in what used to be
Speaker 3: my mother's bedroom and my grandmother used it for a
Speaker 3: sewing room, and there's some old pictures of people who
Speaker 3: I probably haven't related to, but I don't know, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of a creepy place, stacks of fabric and
Speaker 3: you know that kind of stuff, lying around and lying
Speaker 3: in a bed, and I remember lying on my right
Speaker 3: hand side watching the the i'll say, digital clock although
Speaker 3: I mean, I imagine a lot of our audience might
Speaker 3: be too young, but a lot of our audience is
Speaker 3: not too young to know these kinds of digital clocks.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like an LED screen or what everything like that.
Speaker 3: It was remember those, I guess. It was like two cards,
Speaker 3: a top fifty percent and a lower fifty percent, and
Speaker 3: over both cards the number would be written, but at
Speaker 3: certain times it would like flip. Yeah, I remember those.
Speaker 4: I had a loe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm not sure what that technology
Speaker 3: is called, but I think some of our older listeners,
Speaker 3: and I say older, like my age listeners, will remember those.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember staring at one of those clocks, and I
Speaker 3: don't remember what time it was at the time when
Speaker 3: it's happened, but I was, as far as I can tell,
Speaker 3: I was awake. But you know, there's some argument there
Speaker 3: maybe I wasn't, because weird things happened when you're in
Speaker 3: between awake and a sleep, right, But as far as
Speaker 3: I could tell, I was awake. I remember this quite vividly,
Speaker 3: and I was lying on my right hand side looking
Speaker 3: at the clock as I was saying, and then about
Speaker 3: halfway down the bed, the sheets lifted up like like,
Speaker 3: imagine again, this is just what I observed. Imagine somebody
Speaker 3: grabbing the sheets with one hand and then lifting the
Speaker 3: sheets up so it kind of had draped down from
Speaker 3: that one place like in a triangular fashion.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: That's what it looked like to me. Somebody something and
Speaker 3: the sheets lifted up. I should say that the sheets
Speaker 3: lifted up as if somebody was lifting them up with
Speaker 3: one hand. And and I'm like, like, going, what the
Speaker 3: And then I felt the mattress at that same place
Speaker 3: where it looked like the sheets were being lifted up,
Speaker 3: the mattress started pushing down like somebody was getting into
Speaker 3: bed with me, you know. And at that point I
Speaker 3: was I was scared when the when the sheets were up,
Speaker 3: but when the the mattress pushed down, like I was
Speaker 3: very very frightened, and I kind of panicked and says
Speaker 3: it was like halfway down the bed where I was
Speaker 3: lying and I kind of lie in a fetal position.
Speaker 3: What I did is I took my one of my
Speaker 3: legs and I kicked like with the with the planner
Speaker 3: surface of my foot, like the bottom sole of my
Speaker 3: I kicked off that direction where this stuff was happening,
Speaker 3: and I hit something. It felt like a person. It
Speaker 3: felt like I was hitting a person, like in the
Speaker 3: mid part of their belly or something like that, or
Speaker 3: stirnham or something like that. And as I made contact,
Speaker 3: I heard oh, and the sheet dropped. And that was
Speaker 3: the end of it, except for the next two hours
Speaker 3: laying awake in terror, not wanting to wake up my
Speaker 3: grandparents or anything like that. And I mentioned it to
Speaker 3: him later and they said, no, nothing's weird ever happened
Speaker 3: here or whatever. You know, But that was the first
Speaker 3: time that I think I encountered something immensely ghosty as
Speaker 3: a kind of an adult, you know, little kid hallucinations aside,
Speaker 3: But as an adult, that was the first time that
Speaker 3: I encountered something that really scared me bad and that
Speaker 3: I couldn't explain that I seemed to have my face about.
Speaker 3: You know. It seems like I believe I was awake
Speaker 3: during that time. Maybe I wasn't, and that's the explanation
Speaker 3: for it. But even then, it's just scared the heck
Speaker 3: out of it. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond
Speaker 3: with Cliff and Bobo. Will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know if I can count that
Speaker 3: first one as a as a sighting of a ghost
Speaker 3: because I didn't see what was doing it. I just
Speaker 3: saw the effects of whatever was doing it.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of weird stuff.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I not tell you that story before.
Speaker 4: Bobo nod that's gnarly.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah it was. It was horrifying, absolutely horrifying. I
Speaker 3: did not enjoy it. That's why I don't understand like
Speaker 3: these ghost people, and we have them on the podcast,
Speaker 3: you know, Nick Grob, Dave schraderor New Like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing looking for ghosts?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: That's I mean, I guess each their own. They're probably
Speaker 3: looking at us, and why are you looking for giant apes?
Speaker 3: It's horrifying. But I feel the same about them. It's
Speaker 3: like I just don't get it, Like why would you
Speaker 3: want to go do that? I guess the search for
Speaker 3: the unknown or thinking that they're benign or I don't
Speaker 3: know what it was. I mean, I lived, so my
Speaker 3: soul's okay, I seemed and then at the second time,
Speaker 3: and this is much more recently, this was seven years ago.
Speaker 3: This one happened here and it didn't happen to my
Speaker 3: house where I live now, it happened to my house.
Speaker 3: At my house I lived in Portland, the small little
Speaker 3: house over there off of Sandy Boulevard. So Melissa and
Speaker 3: I met her on the show. We dated for a
Speaker 3: few years, fell in love, decided to give it a go,
Speaker 3: and so Melissa said that she would be willing to
Speaker 3: live in Oregon. You know. So after all that stuff happened,
Speaker 3: what I did is I flew out to Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 3: then Melissa and I drove out together in her vehicle,
Speaker 3: you know, and we always shipped some of her belongings out,
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, and so, you know, it was
Speaker 3: like a wonderful, cool road trip. Took about a week
Speaker 3: or so to get out here, four or five six
Speaker 3: days to get out here, I can't remember. And then
Speaker 3: we get back on I'd have to ask Melissa exact days,
Speaker 3: but I'll tell you best my memory, and give me.
Speaker 3: Forgive me if I'm a day or two off, if
Speaker 3: I remember right. We got back on a Friday, okay.
Speaker 3: And then Friday night or Saturday morning, we get a
Speaker 3: call that Melissa's grandmother is not doing well. Her grandmother
Speaker 3: on her mother's side, she is not doing well. It
Speaker 3: looks like she's probably going to pass away in the
Speaker 3: next couple of days, that sort of stuff. So literally,
Speaker 3: Melissa arrives on a Friday, Saturday, we get the news Sunday,
Speaker 3: I believe it was Sunday. We put her on a
Speaker 3: plane to go back to Pittsburgh to go be with
Speaker 3: her family during this horrible time or you know, solemn time.
Speaker 3: Really at least that when her grandmother is passing away. Right, So,
Speaker 3: and I get the word on Monday morning that Grandma
Speaker 3: had passed away. Okay, so at least Melissa got to
Speaker 3: go back in time and all that chize. And I believe,
Speaker 3: at least this is what I remember. I could be
Speaker 3: wrong about some of this stuff. So Monday morning, I
Speaker 3: believe Grandma died. Melissa was still in Pittsburgh. So I'm
Speaker 3: at the house Monday, Monday. Monday nights, I go to sleep,
Speaker 3: you know, as I normally do, and then at some
Speaker 3: point in the night I don't know when, I didn't
Speaker 3: catch the time or anything like that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: I woke up. Now to set the scene, the room's
Speaker 3: about maybe ten twelve feet square more or less. The
Speaker 3: door is on one corner, the bed is on the
Speaker 3: opposite wall. Of the door and on the opposite side
Speaker 3: of the room, so facing the door. I was lying
Speaker 3: on my right hand side again as I often do,
Speaker 3: so I could see the doorway, and the blinds are
Speaker 3: got letting a little bit of light in, so that
Speaker 3: the room has this creepy sort of bluish tinge to it,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I wake up in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night, I don't know when, and everything's blue
Speaker 3: and kind of creepy, and I just kind of wake up,
Speaker 3: and I look over to the door, which is open,
Speaker 3: and there's a there's a woman standing in my doorway.
Speaker 3: She looks to me kind of like Melissa, you know.
Speaker 3: She had blondish hair, She was looking down, she was
Speaker 3: looking downwards, just standing there. She was in a nightgown,
Speaker 3: like a just kind of a nighty sort of thing,
Speaker 3: like a loose sort of white, whitish thing that went
Speaker 3: down to about her knees. She didn't wasn't wearing any
Speaker 3: shoes at all. I remember seeing that. And she was
Speaker 3: kind of blondish hair, at least in the weird like
Speaker 3: nighttime moonlight sort of thing. It looked like she had
Speaker 3: blondish hair or at least light colored hair. And she
Speaker 3: was looking down and I could not see her face.
Speaker 3: She was doing a strange movement. Her arms were just
Speaker 3: hanging by her side, and she was like stepping to
Speaker 3: her left foot, then back to the right foot, then
Speaker 3: back to the left foot back. It almost like swaying,
Speaker 3: but like stepping back and forth looking down. Hair aped
Speaker 3: over her face, obscuring all of her features. But to
Speaker 3: me for all the world, she looked like Melissa in
Speaker 3: that same position.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: And at this point, you know, I'm an adult, this
Speaker 3: is seven years ago in my forties. I go, well,
Speaker 3: I'm clearly dreaming this, right, So I kind of like
Speaker 3: take a moment. I shake my head a little bit.
Speaker 3: I literally rubbed physically rub my eyes and just take
Speaker 3: a moment breathe, like this will solve the problem.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I look back up, and the figure's still there, doing
Speaker 3: the same thing, kind of going back and forth, stepping
Speaker 3: side by side slowly.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I can't see her face that whole thing. And that's
Speaker 3: when I get real scared, because I figured, well, I'm
Speaker 3: going to wash this lady right out of my eyes here,
Speaker 3: you know. But did not work. When I looked back up,
Speaker 3: she was still standing there. At that point, well, it's
Speaker 3: dark in the room. So I reached my hand out
Speaker 3: to the little night stand with a lamp on it.
Speaker 3: I reached my hand out, then turn on the light.
Speaker 3: And as soon as my hand goes out, and this
Speaker 3: this woman i'll call her that, it's about five and
Speaker 3: a half feet tall or so something like that. Her
Speaker 3: entire height condenses down like from from her feet, her
Speaker 3: goes it goes up from her head, it goes down
Speaker 3: and condenses into this blur like this swoosh like and
Speaker 3: it swooshed out of the room and down the hall
Speaker 3: towards the living room. You've been to my house, so Bobe,
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of picture this. It was like
Speaker 3: the moments I reached my hand down, of course, I
Speaker 3: did turn the light on, and nothing was there. And
Speaker 3: I was just horrified and scared. And I look and
Speaker 3: so she's not in the room. My dog, So I
Speaker 3: call her, soji were soja come here? Come here? And
Speaker 3: she kind of trots in the room wondering like what's up.
Speaker 3: A few moments later she was sleeping in the couch
Speaker 3: in the living room. And that's it. That's the end
Speaker 3: of that story, really, because except for again being scared
Speaker 3: and horrified for the next hour or two until I
Speaker 3: fall asleep again my adrenaline drops. So I don't know
Speaker 3: what that was. Maybe it was I kind of have
Speaker 3: an idea maybe, since it did that figure did in
Speaker 3: fact look like Melissa. I think that maybe that was
Speaker 3: Grandma coming to check on her on her on her
Speaker 3: way out the door, so to speak. I don't really know.
Speaker 3: It did look like Melissa to me, though, except I
Speaker 3: couldn't see her face, and but you know, Grandma didn't
Speaker 3: have that color hair, and Grandma doesn't really look like
Speaker 3: Melissa and all this other stuff. But you know, souls
Speaker 3: may appear a little bit different than the outside appearances could.
Speaker 3: So anyway, those are my two ghost stories for this
Speaker 3: Halloween episode here, So there you go.
Speaker 4: That what is your grand parents house? That's one that
Speaker 4: freaks me out, Like that's pretty gnarly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't like either one, honestly. I mean, although I
Speaker 3: got to see the second one, at least the first one,
Speaker 3: I just saw the effects of it, lifting the blanket
Speaker 3: and getting in a bed and all that stuff, but
Speaker 3: I didn't get to see anything about a few weird
Speaker 3: things happen here too, actually at the house here, but
Speaker 3: not very many. But you know what I think would
Speaker 3: be a good thing to do is it is I've
Speaker 3: had one or two things at the house here. We
Speaker 3: can talk about that in the members section, And I
Speaker 3: know Matt Pruitt has a good story associated with Halloween
Speaker 3: as well. But Melissa, my wife, has consented to coming
Speaker 3: on the member section and telling a few of our
Speaker 3: own ghost encounters because she's had some weird things happened
Speaker 3: through her time. So yeah, so our members will get
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Speaker 2: Or click the link the show notes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, or as Matt Proudge said, you can also
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Speaker 4: Well speak how it goes there. So the serious voice
Speaker 4: coming in out of the ether there.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, we talk to a ghost
Speaker 2: every week, the ghost of James Boba fe beloved dear Fred. Yeah,
Speaker 2: our deceased friend brings light into every room he ever entered.
Speaker 3: God rest his soul, God rest your soul, Bobo.
Speaker 2: I think your soul is restless because you're you're with
Speaker 2: us once a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would that be if Bobo did die like
Speaker 3: ten years ago and we've been dealing with a ghost
Speaker 3: all this time?
Speaker 2: He say dude, the afterlife sucks.
Speaker 4: It's lame. Okay, folks. Well that's it for another episode
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Speaker 4: this episode. Not too much Bigfoot or keep it teat
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