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I spend probably too 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:45,119 much time, Yeah, I spend too much time over the 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:51,880 weekend reading how Donald Trump and JD Vance ambushed the 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:01:01,399 Ukrainian president. Is it Volodimer Voldemir Zelensky. I did not 15 00:01:01,439 --> 00:01:03,320 realize he had two whys at the end of that name, 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,159 but whatever, so yeah, so that they ambushed him and 17 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:18,159 that he ambushed them. Much like almost everything, it seems 18 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:24,200 like whatever your opinion is of the of the Orange Man, 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,480 that will determine how you saw what we saw play 20 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:33,239 out on Friday, and we heard live here on the show. 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,560 It seems like if you don't like Donald Trump and 22 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,280 he is the Orange man who is bad, then you 23 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:45,760 think that he ambushed Zelensky. And if you like Donald 24 00:01:45,799 --> 00:01:49,840 Trump and you like JD. Vance, then you saw it 25 00:01:50,040 --> 00:02:00,439 as Zelensky ambushing them. And I gotta tell you, watching 26 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:06,079 the entire exchange going on, it did not. I do 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,520 not agree that the president and the Vice president ambushed 28 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,560 the Ukrainian president. That is not what I saw happen. 29 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:17,400 It's not even what I heard happen as it was 30 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:20,759 happening when we were listening to it and the thing 31 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,319 degenerated into the screaming match. That wasn't even what I 32 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,520 heard happen in real time. It never crossed my mind 33 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,159 that this was some sort of an ambush because it 34 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:38,719 was all precipitated by Zelenski interrogating our vice president in 35 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:46,599 the Oval office. When Vance said what he said, basically 36 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:53,800 criticizing Joe Biden, it wasn't even a criticism of Zelensky, right. JD. 37 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,360 Vance said, We're going to do something that the previous 38 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,599 administration didn't, which is we were actually engaging in diplomacy, 39 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:05,800 and then Zelensky uses that as an opening, like, well, 40 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,800 what do you mean by diplomacy because Russia has violated 41 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,520 all of the previous ceasefires and Russia did this bad 42 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,080 thing and all of that. And here's the thing, I 43 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:18,599 agree that Russia sucks. I don't have to choose. I 44 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,879 don't have to pick. This is a false choice people 45 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:24,800 by this idea that somehow, you know in the Trump 46 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,319 administration saying last week that Ukraine started the war. Whatever, 47 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,360 Ukraine did not start the war, right, Vladimir Putin has 48 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:42,280 invaded what Georgia, Crimea and now eastern Ukraine, and like, honestly, 49 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:47,439 the reasons for those two areas, those two peoples to 50 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:50,879 be fighting for what I understand to be could be 51 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,840 like hundreds of years over this territory. I don't even 52 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:59,960 know if they needed any kind of uh uh an 53 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:03,599 impetus for Russia to go in there, except the ability 54 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:07,800 to do it an opportunity, which I do believe they 55 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,919 sensed a weakness in Joe Biden. I wonder why, hmmm, 56 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,240 and they rolled in and they knew that they weren't 57 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,600 going to get any kind of real pushback from NATO 58 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:32,519 because Ukraine's not in NATO. So I don't agree with 59 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,839 the Trump comments, the administration comments about you know, Ukraine's 60 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:40,279 starting it. I don't believe that to be the case 61 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:45,079 at all. I think the war started when Russia invaded Ukraine. 62 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,680 Now did Ukraine do stuff inside of this area before 63 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:51,560 Russia invaded? There were Russian speaking people there and they 64 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,360 wanted to be part of Russia, supposedly whatever. Like all 65 00:04:55,439 --> 00:05:02,199 of that stuff, all of that history, I as an American, 66 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,639 I am not up to speed on it, nor I like, 67 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,680 I don't know if I should be required to be 68 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:11,399 up to speed on all of that, because again, you know, 69 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:14,519 we have people who are like, we're not the world's policemen, 70 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,639 and that means we don't have to take an interest 71 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:20,399 in all of that. You know, who should take more 72 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:23,800 of an interest in all of that history Europe, which 73 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,000 is why I was very excited to see that Europe 74 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,759 now says that they're going to, uh, they're going to 75 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,480 stand up and they're going to lead on Ukraine, which 76 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,120 it only took three years, but hey, better late than never, 77 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:38,360 I guess. Although they did say they're going to be 78 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:45,759 committing troops. They're going to be committing ground troops into Ukraine. 79 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,839 Now that's a little bit more problematic, you see, because 80 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,279 those countries in the EU that are members of NATO, 81 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:58,879 unlike Ukraine, if they commit ground troops and then they 82 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:04,920 get attacked and then they try to trigger Article five, 83 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,360 I believe it is of the NATO Agreement that then 84 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:15,720 would require all NATO nations to band together in the 85 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:22,160 mutual defense of a NATO ally. So wait a minute. 86 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,680 So we don't want to send troops. We've said Trump 87 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,480 has said we are not sending ground troops into Ukraine. 88 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,000 That has been the position of America since the beginning 89 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,000 of all of this, even going back to Obama, right like, 90 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,759 we were not sending ground troops anywhere into Ukraine. But 91 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 now Europe says it's going to stand up and it's 92 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,199 going to do more. And by doing more, they're talking 93 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:57,199 about sending in ground troops and now that may commit us. Well, 94 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:02,560 that doesn't sound very neighborly. We didn't commit ground troops 95 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,439 from the Europeans, not that there's a lot to commit, 96 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:12,639 but we didn't do that to them. Would Why would 97 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,040 we like it if they did that to us, especially 98 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:18,920 in a theater where we have said we are not 99 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,879 going to do that. So over the weekend, after he 100 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,279 got kicked out of the White House, Zelensky went and 101 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:33,360 met with these European leaders and after that meeting the 102 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,839 UK Prime Minister Geer Starmach, He's German, announced a four 103 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,720 point plan to work with Ukraine to end the war, 104 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:50,560 end defend the country from Russia. So you're sending in 105 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:58,240 military support to defend Ukraine from Russia? What part of Ukraine? 106 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:01,199 The part that Russia has already taken? Are you talking 107 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,160 about a ground invasion of the area that has already 108 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,879 been seized by Russians and it is under the Russian 109 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:11,639 Federation control? You're going to be sending in ground troops 110 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,680 over there. Again, I'm no military strategist or you know, 111 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:23,560 historian of the of the russou Ukraine troubles or anything, 112 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:27,600 but this seems kind of like an escalation with a 113 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,399 nuclear power, right, doesn't it. That's what it seems like. 114 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,879 The UK, France and other countries will step up their 115 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:41,000 efforts in a quote coalition of the willing according to 116 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:46,000 the BBC, and will seek to involve the US in 117 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:53,759 their support for Ukraine. Zelensky said, quote, We're working all 118 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,559 working together in Europe trying to get my Zelensky impression down. 119 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:01,039 It's been a little difficult. But anyway, he says, we're 120 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 all working together in Europe in order to find a 121 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:07,799 basis for cooperation with America, for a true piece and 122 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:11,320 guaranteed security. And this is what he kept talking about 123 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,120 in the Oval Office. He was there, though, to sign 124 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,559 a minerals rights deal. That's what he was there for, 125 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,480 and that's what he was there for at his own demand. 126 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,039 The deal could have been signed outside of the Oval Office. 127 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,000 They could have signed it back in Kief or wherever 128 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,200 like they did. He did not have to be at 129 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,639 the White House, but he demanded it, and so they 130 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,639 said okay, and then he shows up and he keeps 131 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:53,080 hammering away at demands for guaranteed security, which means what 132 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:59,679 what does that mean? Guaranteed security? Well, I guess to 133 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,879 one extreme, it could be nukes in Ukraine. We send 134 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:06,440 nukes back into Ukraine after we convinced them after the 135 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,480 fall of the Soviet Union to get rid of them. 136 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:11,679 All right, that was a mistake, but because if they 137 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:17,440 had nukes, they probably would not have been invaded. Or 138 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,840 what membership in NATO is that what he thinks the 139 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:26,960 guaranteed security is? Is it ground troops? American ground troops 140 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,080 in order to fight the Russians again a nuclear power. 141 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,360 This is why Donald Trump when he was screaming at 142 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,679 Zelensky at the end of that Oval Office press availability, 143 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,279 he said, you're you're leading us down a path towards 144 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,799 World War III. And that's when he was like, you 145 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:51,240 don't have the cards, you don't have any leverage. He said, 146 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,480 we are not playing cards. It's not card game, which 147 00:10:56,519 --> 00:10:58,440 I guess that's an idiom that is lost to the 148 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:01,039 Ukrainian president that you know you don't have any you 149 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:04,720 don't have a strong hand. It's not saying it's a 150 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,639 card game. It's a question or it's an analogy rather 151 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,919 for leverage, for your strength in your position, and he 152 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:16,919 doesn't have it. And this is the thing that I 153 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:20,960 keep wondering as I see the analysis coming in from 154 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,000 not just the lefties, but also people on the right 155 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,679 that also, by the way, hey Donald Trump, that are like, 156 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 we got to keep supporting, keep supporting, keep supporting. It's like, 157 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:32,879 what's the end game here? How do you think this ends? 158 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:38,440 What's the like, what's the what's the solution? What's the 159 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,159 exit strategy? Is there one? Because I never hear it, 160 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,120 I never hear an exit strategy from the people that 161 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:53,039 are promoting this guarantee of security. What is it? What 162 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:58,360 does that look like? Nobody will say why it's a 163 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,960 brain buster. Here's a great idea. 164 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,279 Speaker 2: Yep. 165 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: How about making an escape to a really special and 166 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,279 secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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We'll get to 193 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:45,799 your emails after this big meeting with the European Union leaders. 194 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:52,240 The French president Emmanuel Macron, he told Laffiguarreau, Lafiguarou, figure 195 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:56,440 out Figureau newspaper, and then he went on to say 196 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:00,360 that Paris and London wanted to propose a a one 197 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,960 month truce between Russia and Ukraine in the air, at 198 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,480 sea and on energy infrastructure. Speaking at a news conference 199 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:16,039 shortly after the meeting of leaders Gerstarma, He's German said 200 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:19,120 they had agreed on four points. Here they are the 201 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:26,039 four points. Number one, to keep military aid flowing into 202 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,720 Ukraine and to keep increasing the economic pressure on Russia. 203 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:38,279 Number two that any lasting piece must ensure Ukraine's sovereignty 204 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:43,759 and security, and Ukraine must be present at any peace talks. 205 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:48,799 Number three in the event of a piece deal, to 206 00:14:49,039 --> 00:14:55,799 boost Ukraine's defensive capabilities to deter any future invasion. And 207 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:59,519 number four to develop a coalition of the willing to 208 00:14:59,639 --> 00:15:03,600 defend the deal in Ukraine and to guarantee peace afterwards. 209 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,440 And if that sounds like ground troops, it's because it 210 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:14,720 means ground troops. Starmer also announced an additional one point 211 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:21,240 six billion pounds so two billion dollars of uk export 212 00:15:21,559 --> 00:15:27,240 finance to buy more than five thousand air defense missiles. Okay, 213 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,600 that's a loan. This comes on top of a two 214 00:15:32,679 --> 00:15:36,320 billion pound loan to provide more military aid to Ukraine 215 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:41,399 backed by profits from frozen Russian assets. He said, we 216 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:43,720 have to learn from the mistakes of the past. We 217 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:47,720 cannot accept a weak deal which Russia can breach with ease. Instead, 218 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:52,440 any deal must be backed by strength. The Prime Minister 219 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:55,279 did not state which countries had agreed to join this 220 00:15:55,559 --> 00:15:58,279 coalition of the Willing, but said that those who had 221 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,399 committed would intensify planning with real urgency. We're gonna go 222 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,600 plan Baby. The UK, he said, would back its commitment 223 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,919 with boots on the ground and planes in the air. 224 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:17,440 He said Europe must do the heavy lifting, before adding 225 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:20,679 that the agreement would need US backing and had to 226 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,600 include Russia, but then Moscow could not be allowed to 227 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:31,039 dictate terms. So again European boots on the ground, which 228 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:37,159 means if they get attacked then NATO can invoke Article 229 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:42,480 five and drag us into war. That seems to be 230 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:51,399 the framework of their plan. Countries at the summit include France, Poland, Sweden, Turkey, Norway, Turkey, Wait, Turkey, 231 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:55,919 sorry turquea as they pronounce it now, but do not 232 00:16:56,159 --> 00:17:00,840 call it the Gulf of America people okay, Czech Republic, Mark, Germany, 233 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:07,079 the Netherlands, Romania, Finland, Italy, Spain and Canada. European Commission 234 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,079 to President Ursula Vanderleyen said that there was now an 235 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,799 urgent need to rearm Europe. Well it took you long 236 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,680 enough Europe, It's only been what eighty years? All right? 237 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,519 If you're listening to this show, you know I try 238 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:23,319 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 239 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,400 I know you do too. 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So first off, let me I'll read 262 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,720 some emails here. This is Junior. I'm just deciding which 263 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,799 way I want to go here because I want to 264 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:47,599 get to the audio, because I also have a bunch 265 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:53,119 of audio from Marco Rubio who made several appearances for 266 00:18:53,279 --> 00:18:57,480 interviews and explained a lot of this stuff, which like 267 00:18:57,599 --> 00:19:01,160 the backstory here. Well, let me start here from that 268 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:04,359 BBC article before I get to the emails. After this 269 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:10,240 European summit, Zelenski said to reporters at a final press 270 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:13,200 briefing after he met with King Charles the Third, he 271 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,279 said he was ready to sign a deal on minerals 272 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:19,880 with the US. Like well, then, what the hell did 273 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:25,319 you just do? Why did you blow up the Oval 274 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,680 Office meeting? Like why did you let that get By 275 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,279 the way, did you see the video of the like 276 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,519 the Ukrainian ambassador to America. She was sitting in the 277 00:19:35,559 --> 00:19:39,559 front row and you could see her and she's just 278 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,640 as he starts, as Zelensky starts going after vance, she 279 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:46,559 just like she starts looking down and she just puts 280 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:50,680 her head in her hands, just shaking her head like 281 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:55,759 she knew right then and there. And then there was 282 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,839 this from loud Peter Mandelsson the British and as to 283 00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:04,519 the United States. He went on ABC's This Week with 284 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:08,880 George Stephanopolis and called on Zelensky to give his unequivocal 285 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,880 backing to Trump's initiative for peace in Ukraine. 286 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,799 Speaker 2: We need a very radical reset, as you say in 287 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,559 the caption behind you, and the reset has to consist 288 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:25,279 of the United States and Ukraine getting back on the 289 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,880 same page and President Zelenski giving his unequivocal backing to 290 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,799 the initiative that President Trump is taking to end the 291 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,720 war and to bring a just and lasting peace to 292 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,799 Ukraine and the Europeans. George too, they need to back 293 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,960 the calls for a ceasefire. And by the way, I 294 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:50,759 think that Ukraine should be the first to commit to 295 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,160 a ceasefire and defy the Russians to follow, and then 296 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,279 as part of the unfolding plan for this negotia, the 297 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,920 Europeans and perhaps some other countries too, have got to 298 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,519 consider how they are going to put forces on the 299 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:14,039 ground to play their part in providing enduring security and 300 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,039 deterrence for Ukraine. Now that's the reset that we're looking for. 301 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,319 That's what the British Prime Minister is working for in 302 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,880 his meeting in London today. 303 00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: All right, So the NATO Secretary General Mark rut or 304 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:35,119 Rutty root tay whatever he said, the meeting had seen 305 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,200 European countries stepping up quote unquote to make sure Ukraine 306 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:42,599 has what it needs to quote stay in the fight 307 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:49,400 as long as it has to like that, so war 308 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,680 without end. The US Treasury Secretary Scott Besson warned a 309 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,440 deal on minerals between the US and Ukraine could not 310 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:00,519 be signed without a peace deal with Russia. The US 311 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:03,799 has also begun piece talks with Russia excluding Ukraine, and 312 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,839 that's angered Ukraine. How dare you look? This is what 313 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,720 Trump was asking, like, why do you care how we 314 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,279 get Russia to the table. If it gets them to 315 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,960 the table, you cannot even start talking about any kind 316 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,480 of a peace agreement, any kind of a cessation of 317 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,160 the violence. If one side won't come to the table, 318 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,279 you gotta get them both at a table right, whether 319 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:38,960 that happens first alone and then eventually together whatever, Like, 320 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:44,039 I don't think I have ever seen this kind of 321 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:51,079 resistance to attempt to broker a peace agreement. But I 322 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,119 know Orange Man bit right. That's the that's really the 323 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,559 big problem here, all right, Junior says, I can't figure 324 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:02,640 out why we are not seeing a forensic account of 325 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,480 the money we have sent to Ukraine. I actually have 326 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,839 info on this. There's no way that someone isn't getting 327 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480 very rich from war. Oh, people always get rich in war. 328 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,799 I am sure Zelensky is benefiting somehow. He has purchased 329 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:18,400 a private island somewhere one one thing. I once worked 330 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,000 for the US marshals. The basic techniques for the locating 331 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,039 of fugitives were to focus on money and sex surrounding fugitives. 332 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,119 The lives of political leaders are not different. We need 333 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,720 an examination of Zelenski's life after receiving funds from America. 334 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,000 Following the money trail will also lead to several American 335 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:39,839 political leaders who have done very well from funding Ukraine. Yeah, Ukraine, 336 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,720 this is the problem Ukraine has been and everyone has known. 337 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:48,559 This has been a money laundering jurisdiction for many people. 338 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:53,279 And it's been corrupt right for a long time, and 339 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,960 so there's not a lot of trust there, particularly in 340 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,240 this administration. I mentioned the money part. Let me give 341 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:07,119 you this is FROMM. 342 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,519 Speaker 2: To DO. 343 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: Economists for Ukraine. Okay, So they did an analysis. They 344 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,000 performed an independent analysis on publicly available data. The findings 345 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,240 show that in three years of the full scale war, 346 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,279 the total monetary value of usaid delivered to Ukraine's government 347 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,720 amounts to just under fifty one billion dollars, of which 348 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:36,759 eighteen point three billion comprised military aid and the rest 349 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,240 of thirty two point six billion is direct budget support 350 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,160 in the form of expense reimbursement through the World Bank 351 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:50,559 and collateral for loans. These figures, in particular, the military 352 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:54,359 aid component, differ from the appropriation amounts by a factor 353 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,920 of two to three. The US government has valued its 354 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,720 military aid to Ukraine at just under sixty six billion dollars. However, 355 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,799 this group's estimate puts it at eighteen point three billion. 356 00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:15,759 The discrepancy between the appropriation amounts and the values computed 357 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,039 in the independent analysystems from three factors. One. The majority 358 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,119 of US military a to Ukraine has come in the 359 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,960 form of existing equipment from US stockpiles. We are giving 360 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:30,559 them stuff, okay, when they track every weapon provided and 361 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,400 consider the vintage of these weapons, their full depreciation and 362 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:38,839 their failure rates rendering the equipment unusable by our army, 363 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,200 the value, they say is lower than what the American 364 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:47,640 military estimates the value to be. See, and I've been 365 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,599 saying this for a while too, that like the money 366 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,160 that we allocate quote unquote is going to our military 367 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,400 defense contractors. They're building new systems and stuff, they're building 368 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,599 new weapons. We are keeping those and we're sending Ukraine 369 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:09,599 the old stuff. So that so it's difficult to determine 370 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,240 because we're like inflating the value of what those of 371 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,119 what that aid looks like because that's for domestic consumption, 372 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,440 and then we send them the old stuff and that 373 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:27,599 is of a depreciated nature. So it's not as if 374 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:32,839 all of the uh, the aid is a check, right, 375 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,519 It hasn't all been that. So anyway, these guys are 376 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,400 saying that the number is somewhere around fifty to sixty 377 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,519 Just talk eleven ten ninety nine three WBT seven oh 378 00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:45,880 four five seven oh eleven ten email sped at the 379 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:52,000 Pete Calender shoe dot Com. So a couple things. Europe 380 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,440 says it's going to step up to help in your 381 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,680 in Ukraine. Ground troops. They're gonna they're talking about sending 382 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,480 ground troops now into Ukraine. And they've given loans, not 383 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,240 direct payments, you know, just they're they're giving loans, which 384 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,799 I don't know. Like somebody asked me on in an email, like, 385 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,960 was Joe Biden aware that we could just do loans? 386 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:21,880 I don't know. Joe Biden not being aware of a 387 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,960 lot of things. That's pretty on brand. But get this, 388 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,680 the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, Okay, 389 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,400 not exactly a right wing organization. They're saying the third 390 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,799 year of Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine, EU imports 391 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,839 of Russian fossil fuels in particular remain largely unchanged, totaling 392 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:56,359 almost twenty two billion euros worth of exports of revenue. Notably, 393 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,319 EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year 394 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,400 of the invasion surpassed the amount of financial aid that 395 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,359 they have sent to Ukraine. So they're actually funding the 396 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:14,960 Russian war machine more so than Ukraine. Like how insane 397 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,880 is this? I mean, they really don't have much of 398 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,279 a choice because they went all green energy and such right, 399 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,039 shutting off all sorts of power generation forms, and then 400 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,480 they had to rely on well, the same energy sources, 401 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:33,680 but from Russia this time. Russia's stronghold over new markets 402 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,359 also solidified. In the third year of the invasion, the 403 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:43,519 three biggest buyers of Russian fossil fuels China, India and 404 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,839 Turkey sorry Turkah, however they pronounce it now. The value 405 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,319 of India and Turkey's imports saw a year on year 406 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,480 increase of eight percent in India increase in six percent 407 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:00,039 for Turkey. Despite a host of sanctions, Russian revenues the 408 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,960 third year have dropped by a mere eight percent compared 409 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,920 to the year prior to the invasion of Ukraine. They 410 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,960 have made Russia has made eight hundred and forty seven 411 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:17,480 billion euros since the beginning of the invasion from fossil 412 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:25,039 fuels exported, so almost a trillion euros in revenue Russia's making. 413 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,640 Russia's increase use of shadow tankers to transport oil to 414 00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:33,440 its new markets enable it to bypass the oil price cap, 415 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,599 and they relied on almost six hundred of these shadow 416 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,119 ships to transport more than half of its total seaborn 417 00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:50,599 oil exports. It almost seems like they don't have a 418 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,640 clear sightline on what an exit strategy looks like here 419 00:29:55,759 --> 00:30:00,640 over in Europe, right, because they are reliant on Russia fuel, 420 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240 and so they're funding the Russian war machine and then 421 00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:09,079 turning around and doing loans to Ukraine to fight the 422 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,920 Russian war machine that is funded by them. This is nuts. 423 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,720 The Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk before his flight to 424 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:24,440 London for that EU summit, he said, five hundred million 425 00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:29,839 Europeans are asking three hundred million Americans to defend them 426 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:34,839 against one hundred forty million Russians. And then he said 427 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,359 it again in the interview. He was like, five hundred 428 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,319 million Europeans are asking three hundred million Americans to defend 429 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,559 them against one hundred and forty million Russians. Europe lacks 430 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:54,000 the belief that we are truly a global force. So 431 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:58,359 what happened with Zelensky? What was the deal? I don't 432 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,119 have time to play this audio clip right now, to 433 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,359 play at the beginning of the next hour. But Zelensky 434 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,799 came to the United States to sign the minerals deal. 435 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,960 He demanded that the signing occur here and in front 436 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,160 of the world. The deal could have been signed anywhere. 437 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,279 But according to David Strom at hard Air hotair dot com, 438 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200 the zay Man wanted to sit down with Donald Trump 439 00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,680 and this has been This is very on brand for Zelensky. 440 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,759 You'll recall that's what he was demanding of Donald Trump 441 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,079 during the quote perfect phone call that prompted Democrats to 442 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,960 impeach Donald Trump, right, because Zelensky was trying to get 443 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,359 an Oval Office meeting with Trump, and Trump wanted to 444 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,640 know like how the Bidens were doing their deals in Ukraine. 445 00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:55,079 He wanted information about the corruption revolving around Hunter Biden 446 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440 in his seat on the board of Barisma, for which 447 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,400 he was paid fifty thousand dollars a month, and that 448 00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:08,759 led to his impeachment. And then there were reports that 449 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,839 the z Man met with Democrats before the Oval Office meeting. 450 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,759 In fact, one of the Democrats at the meeting tweeted 451 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:21,880 out a picture of the meeting. Strom says, most people 452 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,039 have conveniently forgotten that it was Zelenski himself who first 453 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,440 proposed a minerals deal like this to tie the US 454 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,160 to Ukraine, I mean by something other than payoffs. To 455 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,839 Hunter Biden, of course, but like this, that was the 456 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,480 point of the deal. Trump said this in the Oval Office. 457 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,839 Rubio has said it, like, you have the deal with 458 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,799 us for the minerals. We are now there. We have 459 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,799 an economic interest in your country and it is tied 460 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:56,480 to our national security. This is a better position for 461 00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:59,960 you to be in because it may prevent Russia from 462 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,960 getting any ideas about any further incursions because now we've 463 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,920 got big time economic interest that they're going to be 464 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,400 messing around with, and instead Zelensky's like I want security demands, 465 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,559 Like what are you doing, dude? Just sign the agreement? 466 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160 All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you 467 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,279 so much for listening. 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