Speaker 1: Karen, Yes, question for you.
Speaker 2: I have an answer for you.
Speaker 1: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well let's see what do a licensed therapist, a
Speaker 1: psychic medium, and an abstract painter.
Speaker 2: Having common Are they walking into a bar?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what after meeting her? Maybe so, but
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, a psychic medium, an abstract painter, and a licensed
Speaker 2: therapist licensed therapist, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a trick question because actually they are
Speaker 1: all Katie Beacher and this is the person that's actually
Speaker 1: this woman creates soul level medical readings without ever seeing you.
Speaker 1: Just your name, your age, that's it. And you know what,
Speaker 1: she gives you a four page physical, emotional, and spiritual
Speaker 1: health report plus a symbiotic watercolor portrait of your soul.
Speaker 2: Wow, I know right, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Now she's been featured in Goop, in Push, and even
Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast AM with George Norri. But today
Speaker 1: she is joining us, so she's made the big time. Finally,
Speaker 1: if you ever wondered what your symptoms might be trying
Speaker 1: to tell you, or how to heal from the inside out,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to stick around for this one because Katie,
Speaker 1: she's not just an intuitive. She is verified. Let's go.
Speaker 4: My name is Will, and unlike Boulder and Scully, want
Speaker 4: to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 2: We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
Speaker 2: metaphysical world.
Speaker 4: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
Speaker 4: joined a coven.
Speaker 2: Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.
Speaker 4: All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will
Speaker 4: prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 2: Three dimensional world we all live in.
Speaker 4: This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians.
Speaker 1: Hey there, I'm Will, and we are welcoming you back
Speaker 1: to another power packed episode of the Skeptic Metaposians. Today's
Speaker 1: guest is someone who bridges the gap between science and
Speaker 1: spirit in a truly extraordinary way.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 1: Katie Beecher is a licensed professional counselor and an internationally
Speaker 1: recognized medical and emotional intuitive with over thirty five years
Speaker 1: of experience. She's been featured on Goop, on Push, On,
Speaker 1: Miranda Kerr's Cora Organics, Coast to Coast AM, and more
Speaker 1: than two hundred other media outlets.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: Her unique method involves creating a detailed four page intuitive
Speaker 1: report and a symbolic soul painting. Before she even meets
Speaker 1: her clients. All she uses is her name and age.
Speaker 1: She's also the author of the best selling book Heal
Speaker 1: from Within, an Intuitive Guide to Wellness, which empowers people
Speaker 1: to connect to their bodies, uncover root causes of illness,
Speaker 1: and tap into their own intuitive healing power. Now having
Speaker 1: personally healed from bulimia, depression, lime disease, and mold toxicity,
Speaker 1: Katie brings not only professional wisdom, but lived experience to
Speaker 1: everything she does. Please welcome the one, the only Katie
Speaker 1: Beecher the show. Katie, Welcome to No How you doing today.
Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you so much. You guys are awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you think we're awesome. Some people say, oh,
Speaker 1: these guys are crazy.
Speaker 2: But we've got our snows.
Speaker 1: So far, so good. Karen, all right, Katie, I'm excited
Speaker 1: to talk to you. In our research, we found that
Speaker 1: you do things a little differently. We've talked to people
Speaker 1: who do soul paintings before, we've talked to medical intuitives before.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we ever talked to someone that
Speaker 1: does them both at the same time. So this is exciting.
Speaker 1: So first, the soul paintings do they act as a
Speaker 1: tool to help you to diagnose what might be going
Speaker 1: on with someone.
Speaker 3: So they do. The way that I use them is
Speaker 3: I do the report first, and it's very detailed and
Speaker 3: all this stuff that you said, and then I create
Speaker 3: the painting afterwards, and it both verifies the information in
Speaker 3: my report and gives me different kinds of information about
Speaker 3: the person. And delivering something symbolically to someone is a
Speaker 3: little bit softer, if you will. So if you're reading
Speaker 3: a report and you see the words, you know, sexual
Speaker 3: abuse or a very serious diagnosis. To be clear, I
Speaker 3: cannot legally or ethically diagnose, I really want to be.
Speaker 1: Clear about that.
Speaker 3: But I do identify symptoms and I do make suggestions
Speaker 3: for what things might be, and then I help connect
Speaker 3: people with practitioners I trust for formal diagnoses and things.
Speaker 3: So that's really important to me that people know that.
Speaker 3: But the soul painting, for example, I might be directed
Speaker 3: by my guides to put a lot of red in
Speaker 3: certain areas, maybe around the second chakra, which is the
Speaker 3: hip area of reproductive organs, things like that, and so
Speaker 3: if I pick up abuse in that area and I
Speaker 3: put red there. Then people usually know what that means,
Speaker 3: and it might be a miscarriage, it might be you know,
Speaker 3: endometriosis or hysterectomy or something like that. But people usually
Speaker 3: just intuitively are like, oh, I know what that is.
Speaker 3: So it's a gentler way of beginning a difficult conversation.
Speaker 1: Or it could be just a bump on the table
Speaker 1: as you're on your way to the danging room.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, So does each color mean something or
Speaker 2: do you just kind of put things together and then
Speaker 2: read the whole feeling behind it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, My guys start by giving me a color, and
Speaker 3: then I usually start at the top of the image
Speaker 3: of a person. So the image can be of a figure.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's an insect, sometimes an animal, so they really
Speaker 3: it could be a plant, but it's all symbolizing the person.
Speaker 3: And my guys have you start with a color and
Speaker 3: then I just kind of go down. Whatever they tell
Speaker 3: me to put gets put there, and the colors matter
Speaker 3: and it's an individual interpretation for each person. But also
Speaker 3: things like you know, the placement of the arms. So
Speaker 3: let's say your arms are totally out like this, it
Speaker 3: could be that you're welcoming new information. It could mean
Speaker 3: that you're vulnerable. Let's say your arms are in front
Speaker 3: of your heart and you could be protecting yourself. Call
Speaker 3: it different colors in the legs, for example, legs represent
Speaker 3: moving forward in life. So let's say there's some agenta
Speaker 3: there and magentas about being your true, authentic self. So
Speaker 3: they're being told that the way to move forward is
Speaker 3: just by being yourself, you know. So it's it's really individualized.
Speaker 3: It's really fun. Even though the paintings literally look like
Speaker 3: a five year old did them, so, you know, but
Speaker 3: and being a fine artist, I was sort of like,
Speaker 3: what are these things for me? Yet there really is
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how people would receive them,
Speaker 3: and they really love them and they like to ount
Speaker 3: and frame them, and.
Speaker 1: It's fun the abstract, but you can actually make out
Speaker 1: someone's body because you can write as helps what the
Speaker 1: color is.
Speaker 3: Yes, you can definitely make out a figure or let's
Speaker 3: say it's a plant, or it could be a combination
Speaker 3: of a plant and a figure, or some kind of
Speaker 3: insect like a butterfly or something like that.
Speaker 2: So you.
Speaker 3: As abstract e ish as they definitely are, you can
Speaker 3: definitely make up you know, pedals of a flower or
Speaker 3: leaves or legs and arms and things like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, so then I think you got you might
Speaker 1: be seeing that if you're watching these on video, you
Speaker 1: might be seeing some examples of these paintings on the video.
Speaker 1: If you don't, just go to a blog and you'll
Speaker 1: see those paintings in there as well that we're putting
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: Now, have you had the opportunity to do or maybe
Speaker 2: you have or not, I don't know, like an after picture,
Speaker 2: so you diagnose some and then they kind of work
Speaker 2: on the issues and then paint their soul again.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do have a lot of repeat clients, and
Speaker 3: it's super fun to look at, you know, what comes
Speaker 3: up in the report again or what their paintings look
Speaker 3: like again, and to see the growth. And people are
Speaker 3: always kind of surprised at, you know, because we don't
Speaker 3: always realize that we're growing or changing or healing because
Speaker 3: we're in it. So to be able to see it
Speaker 3: in the report and especially in the paintings, it's really
Speaker 3: really fun.
Speaker 1: Right well, so the obviously the people once they come
Speaker 1: to you is because they feel they have something going
Speaker 1: on as or you just do it generally and people
Speaker 1: then find that there's something they need to look at
Speaker 1: after they see the painting.
Speaker 3: My clients are pretty varied. Most of them, I have
Speaker 3: to say, have symptoms that they either know what the
Speaker 3: causes and they're not healing and they want help with them,
Speaker 3: or they don't know what the root causes it all,
Speaker 3: and they've been to eight trillion practitioners and you know,
Speaker 3: keep hearing it's in your head, or they get a
Speaker 3: misdiagnosis or something like that.
Speaker 1: So okay.
Speaker 3: But I also have people who just want to know
Speaker 3: more about healing relationships or setting boundaries or healing trauma,
Speaker 3: or career help or you know whatever. And the nice
Speaker 3: thing about the readings is that we cover everything and
Speaker 3: anything in that that one hour.
Speaker 1: That's a great point, right because the very first thought
Speaker 1: is you're talking about health, right, You're talking about you.
Speaker 1: But then you started the conversation with you know, potential
Speaker 1: sexual abuse for example, which is not health thing. It's
Speaker 1: more of a thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, gues it.
Speaker 1: May it may represent it may end up being in
Speaker 1: that sense, but but it goes way deeper than just
Speaker 1: a physical ailment. But this you can you can help
Speaker 1: people not just with health, but you do it with
Speaker 1: like you said, career, you can do it with relationships.
Speaker 1: You could do it with you know, finding that pot
Speaker 1: of goal at the end of the rainbow or all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And it's really important to know that if
Speaker 3: you look at root, physical, emotional, and spiritual are all
Speaker 3: really important to consider. And my guides don't see time
Speaker 3: in a linear fashion. So I will get stuff from
Speaker 3: someone's childhood or from ten years ago or in the future,
Speaker 3: or I'll get information from people that they care about
Speaker 3: or maybe they're loved ones in spirit, you know. So
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of I have to discern what's now
Speaker 3: and what's in the past. And the information in the
Speaker 3: past or for someone else usually comes through as just
Speaker 3: a little bit fainter. So if I see a picture,
Speaker 3: let's say, it's just a little fainter, or hear a
Speaker 3: fainter word in my head or something like that. So
Speaker 3: I just put it out there and then we talk
Speaker 3: about it during the reading.
Speaker 2: Gotcha now, you said also in the future, how how
Speaker 2: does that work? Like, how do you get that information in?
Speaker 2: How can you use that to help someone?
Speaker 3: So a lot of people say, you know, am I
Speaker 3: going to get better what can I do to help
Speaker 3: myself things like that, And so I don't give people
Speaker 3: timelines because it's not fair and there's so many variables,
Speaker 3: you know. But I do get feelings about, yes, this
Speaker 3: person is going to get better and that their relationship
Speaker 3: is going tokeed, or maybe I hear that they're better
Speaker 3: off out of the relationship and it's not going to
Speaker 3: work out. Or I get hints about how to help
Speaker 3: them with their business, you know, now and in the future,
Speaker 3: or their goals or dreams or something like that. So
Speaker 3: it's because we all have trouble living in the present
Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons. You know, we're in the
Speaker 3: past or in the future, and that's okay. So to
Speaker 3: be able to help people with all of it is
Speaker 3: really important.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, we're burying the lead, right, bulimia,
Speaker 1: lime disease, toxicity, mold toxicity. You healed yourself from all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So the first thing that comes of mine
Speaker 1: is how how how did you do that?
Speaker 3: Well, I can't take one hundred percent of the credit
Speaker 3: because I really had help. I'll start with the believe
Speaker 3: mea part. When I was in high school, I had
Speaker 3: I was in bad shape, really bad shape, throwing up
Speaker 3: three times a day, and suicidal depression, and I was
Speaker 3: ready to just be like, I can't live this way anymore.
Speaker 3: It's not okay. And my family was really toxic, and
Speaker 3: so some people have heard this story before, and it's
Speaker 3: in my book. But I came home one day from
Speaker 3: school and called our pediatrician. I hadn't told anybody about
Speaker 3: what I was going through, and my parents were not
Speaker 3: very helpful. So I called and said, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: making myself get sick and I need help. And it
Speaker 3: was nineteen eighty three, so the doctor was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's okay, it'll be you know, you'll be fine, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, dude, I really won't be fine. This
Speaker 3: is this is not okay. And he recommended a Youngian psychologist.
Speaker 3: You guys may have done young and stuff before, and
Speaker 3: for me, that was the perfect match because she taught
Speaker 3: me how to connect to my intuition. I already knew
Speaker 3: that I had these weird abilities and I had no
Speaker 3: one to talk to about them, so I could say
Speaker 3: to her, I'm talking to dead people, or you know,
Speaker 3: I'm getting these feelings or whatever, and she just totally
Speaker 3: encouraged it.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 3: So she helped me how to help me learn how
Speaker 3: to connect to my authentic self and set boundaries and
Speaker 3: not care so much about what people thought and all
Speaker 3: of those things. And with her help and a ton
Speaker 3: of work on my end, you know, I started right.
Speaker 3: I was ready though, you know, And I like to
Speaker 3: tell people that was one of the most important things
Speaker 3: that ever happened to me. And I'm so grateful for
Speaker 3: it because we need pain to change.
Speaker 1: Such a great point, right. We talk all the time
Speaker 1: about how growth happens at the edge of our comfort zones,
Speaker 1: but sometimes we have to go really far or comfort
Speaker 1: of oones to really get the benefits of need to
Speaker 1: get And at the end of the day, people say,
Speaker 1: you don't really need to get there, you can you
Speaker 1: just listen to the universe saying hey, I need to
Speaker 1: do this first, instead of waiting for the moment that
Speaker 1: you've gotten into big trouble with believe me, maybe you
Speaker 1: know that's.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's that must have been your guides
Speaker 2: and your intuition, because what teenager calls the pediatrician on
Speaker 2: their own right, you know, So that's really fantastic that
Speaker 2: you'd listened and took that step.
Speaker 3: It was divine intervention. It really was, because I didn't
Speaker 3: know really why or what was happening. And I think
Speaker 3: the fact that I had gotten into a college that
Speaker 3: was not near my parents was probably motivational to help
Speaker 3: me want to live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have mom and dad to rely on anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm on my own. I gotta get this team care of.
Speaker 3: I was on my own anyway, I couldn't rely on
Speaker 3: them anyways. So yeah, it was like, Okay, I have
Speaker 3: a motivation now and hope and you know, things like
Speaker 3: that controlling.
Speaker 2: You in ways you didn't want to control.
Speaker 1: Oh, exactly, that's a thick guy not thinking of the
Speaker 1: right way. So at least perfect sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, you know. And then for the lime
Speaker 3: and mold and all those other things, it was a physical,
Speaker 3: emotional and spiritual journey for sure. I fortunately had an
Speaker 3: amazing naturopath that I worked with who I lived in Connecticut.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd had limes since I was a kid
Speaker 3: and didn't know it, so and the traditional doctors were
Speaker 3: no help. No one ever brought up all the symptoms
Speaker 3: of a lime disease that I had, and I had
Speaker 3: again the sense to find a naturopath at seventeen, and
Speaker 3: you know, worked with these people. It wasn't chill. I
Speaker 3: was like forty five un till I got to diagnose
Speaker 3: with Lime. But it was through working with her and
Speaker 3: then doing a lot of spiritual work, talking in my symptoms,
Speaker 3: asking the lime like, Okay, I'm going to treat you
Speaker 3: as my friend, why are you here? What do you
Speaker 3: have to tell me? And kind of to your point
Speaker 3: before what I like to tell people is the trick
Speaker 3: is listening to your symptoms and intuition early before they
Speaker 3: need to almost kill you out to be like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your book for a second, because it
Speaker 1: kind of goes hand in hand with what you just said.
Speaker 1: Your book, Heal from Within, you talk about symptoms as
Speaker 1: messages from the body, right and you spirit and you
Speaker 1: say that there's a way to get messages from your
Speaker 1: body that will allow you to understand that there are
Speaker 1: some underlying challenges you have to work on. How does
Speaker 1: that work?
Speaker 3: Yeah? One hundred percent. And when I was going through
Speaker 3: therapy and my recovery journey when I was sixteen, my
Speaker 3: guides told me to write the book. They told me
Speaker 3: to pass on what I learned to teach people how
Speaker 3: to connect to theirselves and their intuition and all the things.
Speaker 3: So it took me, you know, several decades to actually
Speaker 3: write it, but that's okay, you.
Speaker 1: Got it out. I got a lot more than most
Speaker 1: people do, so congratulations.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And it was the Lime disease when I talked to
Speaker 3: Lime and said, why are you here? What do you want?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Why are you scaring me? And it's like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: time to write your proposal? So there you go. So
Speaker 3: there is a great example of a symptom and a
Speaker 3: diagnosis that I listened to and talk to instead of fearing,
Speaker 3: and I you know, had that dialogue with it. I
Speaker 3: talk about how to do the dialogues and all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff in the book, but it was you know,
Speaker 3: what do you want me to do? Why are you
Speaker 3: in my life right now? And why is this so unpleasant?
Speaker 3: Because I was afraid of writing the proposal. I'm not
Speaker 3: a I am an author, but I'm not really a writer,
Speaker 3: you know. Thank God for edging. So you know, it
Speaker 3: was scary. And these symptoms come about to make you change.
Speaker 3: So work with people all the time who come to
Speaker 3: me for a physical issue. And my guides in the
Speaker 3: report reveal that, oh, there've been a really dysfunctional relationship
Speaker 3: that they've been trying to get out of forever. Or
Speaker 3: you're letting people walk all over you, or you're doing
Speaker 3: too much for others and you need to set boundaries,
Speaker 3: or any other you know, you need to change how
Speaker 3: you eat, or guess what it's time to stop smoking,
Speaker 3: or any you know, any of the things above. So again,
Speaker 3: it's that discomfort that forces us to look at our
Speaker 3: lives and ourselves and make changes. And it can be
Speaker 3: the littlest symptom. So you get a little headache, right,
Speaker 3: and you have to figure out we're all medical intuitives, really,
Speaker 3: So you have a symptom and you start asking yourself,
Speaker 3: what is this about? What caused it? What do I
Speaker 3: need to do? So get a headache or a stomach ache?
Speaker 3: Something I ate? Is it an allergy in? Do I
Speaker 3: need to lay down? Do I need to take something?
Speaker 3: You know? Can I go to this event that I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to go to? Is there a deeper cause? Is this,
Speaker 3: you know, a repetitive event? Things like that. So and
Speaker 3: with our kids too, our kids get sick and we
Speaker 3: have to sort of be medical detectives. So what I
Speaker 3: do is kind of that on steroids, But it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that we all don't you do it to a
Speaker 3: certain degree.
Speaker 1: So it's really listening to your intuition and your body, right, right.
Speaker 1: But once you feel in your body, then you have
Speaker 1: to ask your body what's going on, and then your
Speaker 1: intuition is what kind of clears the path were understanding? Right? Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's where I run into a problem. Every time
Speaker 1: that I feel something's going on, my intuition says I
Speaker 1: need more alcohol. So for those people, for those people
Speaker 1: who maybe don't trust your intuition all that much, what
Speaker 1: kind of tips can you give.
Speaker 2: Us to let me first add a disclaimer the way
Speaker 2: you said that it doesn't drink every day, not even
Speaker 2: every week, but when you're stressed out, he'll have a
Speaker 2: couple of drinks. It's not like amore, Wow, I mean
Speaker 2: that I know of I'm gonna have to start looking
Speaker 2: in to stand.
Speaker 1: Just don't look at my closet.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: But but for those a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: listening to the show, and perhaps some of the hosts
Speaker 1: of this show, I have some challenges with trusting their intuition.
Speaker 1: So how can you feel confident that what you're hearing
Speaker 1: in your intuition is actually what you need to do.
Speaker 3: That is such a great question, and it comes up
Speaker 3: during You're very welcome during every session. I do it myself,
Speaker 3: you know, okay, because we're so emotionally involved with ourselves,
Speaker 3: and expectations come in there and self doubt and the
Speaker 3: times when oh I thought I trusted my intuition then
Speaker 3: and didn't work out so well. Right, So I have
Speaker 3: a written technique in my book that literally saved my life.
Speaker 3: It's based on youngin psychology with my own spin and
Speaker 3: doing having a conversation with your intuition and writing. First
Speaker 3: of all, you have to stop what you're doing to
Speaker 3: write right, so you are more in the moment. It's
Speaker 3: like mindfulness meditation. You're more focused and so you're less
Speaker 3: distracted by what am I having for dinner or you know,
Speaker 3: any other thing that's going on. So that helps with
Speaker 3: the focus. And what I advise people is don't overthink
Speaker 3: the information. Even if you're just listening in your head.
Speaker 3: You don't have to figure out whether it's your intuition
Speaker 3: or just a voice in your head or just your feelings.
Speaker 3: Listen to what you hear and then start discerning. So
Speaker 3: is this actually fear? Am I projecting my fears onto
Speaker 3: this information I'm receiving?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And if that's the case, then ask yourself what am
Speaker 3: I afraid of? You know, what is this anxiety about?
Speaker 3: Am I afraid that if I listen to the really
Speaker 3: difficult information I'm hearing, such as I need to get
Speaker 3: out of this relationship with someone, or I need to
Speaker 3: I'm feeling the need to drink more? Right, what does
Speaker 3: that mean? Do I need to go do some relaxation?
Speaker 3: Do I need to do a movement? Is this a
Speaker 3: call to action in terms of do I have an addiction?
Speaker 3: Do I have a problem? So really go deep into
Speaker 3: the information rather than just going on a service level.
Speaker 3: And even if you listen and you make a mistake,
Speaker 3: you've still learned something by that experience. But the number
Speaker 3: one thing I think is people here scary stuff and
Speaker 3: about change, and change is scary, and they don't want
Speaker 3: to do it, and they're afraid and it feels overwhelming
Speaker 3: because it doesn't happen overnight, So everything gets pushed down
Speaker 3: and then you're totally cut off from any intuition. So
Speaker 3: don't overthink it. But don't be afraid to go deeper and.
Speaker 1: Write it down. Right, that's the number one thing you get.
Speaker 1: You just just get pin the paper and write it down.
Speaker 2: I don't forget, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's an actual dialogue connects you, right, it connects
Speaker 1: you more like kneel down a wash. Yeah, conversations with
Speaker 1: God exactly. The problem with that is that I got
Speaker 1: to put my drink down to right.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm going to change the subject very slightly here.
Speaker 3: But you actually don't because you could have the drink
Speaker 3: in one hand and your pen and the other.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: I can't a drinker. So in every we have these
Speaker 2: conversations and we learned these things. And there's something that
Speaker 2: you said a while ago that just like struck me
Speaker 2: in my So I'm listening but also kind of going
Speaker 2: down this other like mental rabbit hole. And so you
Speaker 2: talked about being friends with blind disease. You made it
Speaker 2: your friend, and you had this dialogue, and I'm just
Speaker 2: I just started thinking about, you know, the things that
Speaker 2: that I have certain issues with, and this stuff just
Speaker 2: started kind of coming in and popping into my head.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm looking at this there's this one
Speaker 2: issue that's kind of plagued me for years and years,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so if I look at that
Speaker 2: as my friend and instead of thinking, oh I have
Speaker 2: to get rid of this, I have to let it go.
Speaker 2: That's not right, that's not true, and think, Wow, this
Speaker 2: situation has this way that I am has helped protect
Speaker 2: me and keep me safe for all of these years,
Speaker 2: and I need to be grateful for that and think
Speaker 2: it and then let it go.
Speaker 1: Right because it's no longer serving you as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's done its work and it's been part of
Speaker 2: who I am, and I can let it go and
Speaker 2: look at it as a friend instead of like, oh God,
Speaker 2: I've got to get over this. It's just that one
Speaker 2: little thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, so there's a common denominator and all
Speaker 1: this that we're talking about, right it's a changing perspective
Speaker 1: right right now. And we've talked about a lot on
Speaker 1: the show before. Your perspective really dictates how you react
Speaker 1: to or any particular given thing. So that's a really
Speaker 1: good first step.
Speaker 3: It does. And also, the traditional medical model is fight,
Speaker 3: take drugs, mask, you know, be a warrior. And I
Speaker 3: get all that, but what if we stopped fighting and
Speaker 3: what if we listened? And fighting creates so much health anxiety,
Speaker 3: and then people that are afraid to like go get
Speaker 3: blood tests or open their results, or get an ultrasound
Speaker 3: or because they're so afraid that things are going to
Speaker 3: be so bad instead of just gee, I want to
Speaker 3: know the answers because then I could do something about that.
Speaker 1: That's so true. Whenever I get my test results back
Speaker 1: from my doctor, my heart is pounding to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well I have history with that. That might
Speaker 1: be why. But so you I mentioned in the teaser,
Speaker 1: I tossed it in and people might have called it,
Speaker 1: might not have called it. I mentioned that you are verified,
Speaker 1: you have been verified by medical professionals. Tell us about that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I at the very about the beginning. But
Speaker 3: about twelve years ago, maybe I don't know what date
Speaker 3: it is today, but about twelve years ago I contacted
Speaker 3: age a journal. It's a peer review journal, and it
Speaker 3: was an MD who had this journal, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to do a little study verifying my abilities and my accuracy,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to get some of the doctors from
Speaker 3: my clients involved. And they gave me permission, of course,
Speaker 3: and did a informal survey of about eighty of my
Speaker 3: clients and just did like a questionnaire about what was accurate,
Speaker 3: what wasn't things like that, and then also contacted these
Speaker 3: doctors and had them give or the clients gave permission
Speaker 3: for their medical files. And it showed that before I
Speaker 3: did the reading with them, they had these diagnoses that
Speaker 3: I and symptoms that I correctly identified. So it was
Speaker 3: important to me to get that kind of empirical data
Speaker 3: and my you know, accuracies like something in the ninety
Speaker 3: seven percentile or something that with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty cool, I'd say, yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, And also just a lot of like when I
Speaker 3: do readings for doctors, or when I did the reading
Speaker 3: for a group, or a lot of the big media stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't put your information up there unless
Speaker 3: you're actually good at what you do. So I had
Speaker 3: to do readings for them and have them, you know,
Speaker 3: verify that information.
Speaker 1: How can How did I not think about that? Katie,
Speaker 1: you want to come on the show, You've got to
Speaker 1: do a reading right.
Speaker 3: Next time?
Speaker 1: Missed opportunity time? Well that's cool. So you did it
Speaker 1: for the media like you did it for Jordan Nour
Speaker 1: and all those kinds of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like the Goop had a group
Speaker 3: not not going but the person below her and so.
Speaker 3: But that's really important to me because I cannot b
Speaker 3: s the readings and the reports they get them before
Speaker 3: I talk to them. So again that's it's important to
Speaker 3: me to have credibility, you know, that people can trust me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, super important. Of course. Now you we've
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that this you intuit things in
Speaker 1: all kinds of spectrums, right, the health and spirituality and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. If cinsitioals really focus on
Speaker 1: spiritual weakenings and that kind of stuff, if someone is
Speaker 1: wanting to further their spiritual growth, is this something that
Speaker 1: you can identify and help with as well?
Speaker 3: Oh yes, every session, during every single session, every session,
Speaker 3: I teach people how to connect to their intuition, how
Speaker 3: to develop whatever gifts they have, how to trust their
Speaker 3: intuition because I don't want anyone substituting their intuition for mine.
Speaker 3: You know, I will be honest with what my guides
Speaker 3: get and everything, but it's always how does this feel
Speaker 3: to you? Is this resonating with you? You know? Just don't
Speaker 3: just listen to me and nod your head. I don't
Speaker 3: want that, And I want to know is there something
Speaker 3: in the port that didn't resonate, because maybe it was
Speaker 3: for somebody else I was reading at the time, or
Speaker 3: you know, I loved one of theirs. So we talk
Speaker 3: a lot about how people can listen to their bodies
Speaker 3: and their intuition and develop whatever gifts they already have.
Speaker 1: All right, well cool, I think I need the book
Speaker 1: a session. Okay, so let's come back to your soul pinions.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious about that. Have you ever painted something
Speaker 1: that really, like, just shocked you? So can you tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Yes, I actually had the idea that you were going
Speaker 3: to ask me about this, So this is super cool.
Speaker 3: I was doing a reading on a five year old
Speaker 3: boy and all I knew was that he was five,
Speaker 3: and I did a very different type of soul painting.
Speaker 3: And it was a fire truck that had a very
Speaker 3: long ladder and behind it was a tall sort of
Speaker 3: apartment type building and there was a fireman with a hose,
Speaker 3: so you know clear what it was. And then I
Speaker 3: was trying consciously, I was trying to make the hose
Speaker 3: on the side of the truck you know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of coiled up, and I just my brain in my
Speaker 3: hand weren't connecting, and all I could make was this
Speaker 3: s shape. And I literally said to myself, is this
Speaker 3: Superman's firetruck right saw? I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: go with it. When I talked to the mom, she
Speaker 3: said her son was autistic, non verbal, and right before
Speaker 3: she got found out she was pregnant with him, they
Speaker 3: lost all of their belongings in an apartment fire. The
Speaker 3: whole like place burned down and she lost everything, and
Speaker 3: she said she was completely devastated, had no hope, and
Speaker 3: then found out she was pregnant.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And she said this, this her little boy literally saved
Speaker 3: her and has such impact on all the people he meet.
Speaker 3: He's this very, you know, charismatic individual who's not even verbal.
Speaker 3: And she said that she was so moved that she
Speaker 3: calls him her Superman. It gets better, it gets better,
Speaker 3: and she I don't remember what Superman's middle name is,
Speaker 3: but that is the middle name of her her son.
Speaker 3: I don't I honestly don't remember. I don't know my mind.
Speaker 1: I don't have me big big Superman.
Speaker 3: Fr It's nice Okay, so whatever it is, that's the
Speaker 3: middle name she gave her son. So I remember just
Speaker 3: she was in tears, you know when when she saw
Speaker 3: the painting. I was getting chills. She was getting chills.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one I will never forget for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want I'm taking all the questions.
Speaker 2: Well, so how did you first start doing this soul painting?
Speaker 2: Like what what led you to that?
Speaker 3: I've always been an artist, and I think it was
Speaker 3: kind of the young my Youngian psychology background too. He
Speaker 3: uses a lot of symbolism and art therapy, and art
Speaker 3: therapy has always been a really important healing tool for
Speaker 3: me and I have training in it too, And I
Speaker 3: wanted to incorporate something symbolic with the written words of
Speaker 3: the report because the it just feels impersonal sometimes even
Speaker 3: though it's deeply personal. But it just sort of came
Speaker 3: to me. I think I was looking at the Red Book, actually,
Speaker 3: Carl Jung's Red Book, which is pretty intense depiction of
Speaker 3: his spiritual journey, and it just came again, you know,
Speaker 3: spiritual intervention of what if you could make a symbolic
Speaker 3: representation of these people's lives and their bodies and energy
Speaker 3: and what would it look like. So I kind of
Speaker 3: fooled around with it, and I, you know, used a
Speaker 3: lot of people as guinea pigs. And that's how can do.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while when we have a guest
Speaker 1: that we really love on the show, we asked and
Speaker 1: we asked permission to ask some curveball questions that might
Speaker 1: be a little bit out of the norm. You cool
Speaker 1: with doing? Okay, all right, here's the first curveball question
Speaker 1: I'm going through you. Right, if someone asked you to
Speaker 1: create a medical intuitive reading for planet Earth, what do
Speaker 1: you think you'd find?
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, that's depressing. A lot of hurt, abuse is
Speaker 3: coming to mind, neglect, kind of taking being taken for granted,
Speaker 3: needing to set boundaries, a lot of symptoms that people
Speaker 3: aren't aren't looking at, you know, enough and aren't responding
Speaker 3: to enough, and the fact that we need the planet
Speaker 3: to be as healthy as possible, not just for now,
Speaker 3: but for our futures, and that we need to really
Speaker 3: listen more and take better care of it.
Speaker 1: Right, that's how it sounds like.
Speaker 2: That reminds me of something I just heard yesterday on
Speaker 2: NPR talking about taking care of the earth. Apparently in
Speaker 2: Paris they have disallowed cars. What people can't drive cars anymore.
Speaker 2: Then they can take public transportation and they can walk,
Speaker 2: and they're planning a little mini urban forests. I had
Speaker 2: just heard about this, and at first I guess the
Speaker 2: mayor so that the Parisians are very you know, upset
Speaker 2: about this. Now they're like this is they're actually getting
Speaker 2: out and enjoying Paris again. People are outside, they're walking,
Speaker 2: their biking more.
Speaker 1: Was this a credible source that NPR PR no cure.
Speaker 2: I think it was. I was, yeah, whatever, the you know,
Speaker 2: I listened.
Speaker 1: To like, wow, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very very cool.
Speaker 1: Well, remember remember back during the COVID when everything was
Speaker 1: closing down, the dolphins will come back to venness and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So there's hope there is.
Speaker 1: So it seems like like Paris and New York places
Speaker 1: that have mass transportation. I can totally see that, But
Speaker 1: can you imagine that here you don't have a car,
Speaker 1: here you're sunk.
Speaker 2: Maybe they just incorporate, you know, they take out the
Speaker 2: cars and they put a bus so people take you know,
Speaker 2: the buses.
Speaker 1: Or bikes like Denmark. Okay, cool. Well here's another, another
Speaker 1: curveball question. If your intuition had a voice, how would
Speaker 1: you describe the personality? Is it gentle, sassy, wise, parental, wise,
Speaker 1: ass will.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I'm also imagining how my husband would describe that. The
Speaker 3: first thing that comes to mind is very honest and
Speaker 3: loving and empathic and putting myself in the place of
Speaker 3: others who've been through difficult things.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the voice would be like Karen.
Speaker 2: Wait, not like a Karen. No, right, just differentiate.
Speaker 1: Right, right. So I remember the question I had if
Speaker 1: it came to me the report that you give to people,
Speaker 1: Does that mean that you're constantly like writing four pagsays
Speaker 1: for people or do you have like a machine that
Speaker 1: spits it out?
Speaker 3: I wish I had a machine. No, my guys are
Speaker 3: kind of like a machine. Right. I purposely see maybe
Speaker 3: six to nine people a week at the most, and
Speaker 3: some of those are regular counseling clients, intuitive counseling clients
Speaker 3: that I see on a regular basis. So I usually
Speaker 3: do anywhere from four to six actual reports per week,
Speaker 3: and I do like those on Sundays and Mondays to
Speaker 3: prepare for the week. So so no, I am not
Speaker 3: constantly writing and I have a template that I start
Speaker 3: with that is divided into all the chakras, and it
Speaker 3: gives this the physical and emotional characteristics of each chakra,
Speaker 3: so you don't have to know anything about chakras to
Speaker 3: understand the report. And then I the third column is
Speaker 3: kind of what I fill in for what I get
Speaker 3: for the person that I'm doing the reading for.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, So it's more fill in the blank and not
Speaker 1: like long form survey.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, correct, I know, yeah, yeah, terrifying.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for anyone that's listening who right now, who's
Speaker 1: struggling with something that they can't explain, whether it's chronic pain,
Speaker 1: or emotional overwhelm or just feeling stuck, what's the very
Speaker 1: first step you recommend that they take?
Speaker 3: What I where I start in my readings is kind
Speaker 3: of doing an overview of what is the most pressing thing,
Speaker 3: you know, what's the thing that is impacting your life
Speaker 3: the most, are bothering you the most? And even in
Speaker 3: my book, I take people through a pretty extensive quiz
Speaker 3: of what's going on in your life and and what
Speaker 3: are the things that are most important to you? Were
Speaker 3: to start, you know, sometimes people don't even know what's
Speaker 3: bothering them because it's just been there forever and they
Speaker 3: don't even know how to put it into words. So
Speaker 3: sort of an identification of one thing that you want
Speaker 3: to start working on because everything feels overwhelming, especially if
Speaker 3: you try to do it all at once. And then
Speaker 3: in the book and in my readings too, I start
Speaker 3: with helping people connect to their intuition and their authentic
Speaker 3: self and start by just trying to be calmer, be
Speaker 3: more present and giving yourself a break, you know, not
Speaker 3: being so hard on yourself, and that kind of you know,
Speaker 3: starts the ball rolling.
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Okay, a lot of people are talking about intuition,
Speaker 1: of medicine, that kind of stuff right in this space, metaphysics, spirituality.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of it's although it's not new or young,
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of new people coming to it.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of misconceptions that come along with
Speaker 1: all this kinds of stuff. Are there any misconceptions you
Speaker 1: feel are really important to dispel right now?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: I'm really glad you brought that up, because I have
Speaker 3: been called a witch, I have been called satan, I
Speaker 3: have been told that some of them by my own family,
Speaker 3: right actually, yeah, I don't have anything to do with
Speaker 3: them anymore. So there's a reason. But you know that
Speaker 3: I'm anti Christian, that what I that listening to intuition
Speaker 3: is going against the Bible, you know, it's being evil interesting,
Speaker 3: And that is so incredibly sad to me because my
Speaker 3: first connection to intuition was with God and it still
Speaker 3: is and God is love, you know, I help people
Speaker 3: heal and love themselves more.
Speaker 2: And by.
Speaker 3: Just having this assumption that you know nothing about that
Speaker 3: it's somehow negative or evil or against God is just
Speaker 3: it couldn't be further from the truth. So that's that's
Speaker 3: a big one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that is very sad. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: folks who are Christian who aren't in that thought process, right,
Speaker 1: they don't fit into that thought process. Unfortunately, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of them that are. And I can't help
Speaker 1: but think that's based in fear, uoted in programming, and
Speaker 1: fear that they've been brought up. And so it's as
Speaker 1: much as I hate that they would feel that way,
Speaker 1: I do understand why. Unfortunately, you have to give them empathy. However,
Speaker 1: when you think about if you are even interested in
Speaker 1: the space remotely, you probably have heard of Edgar Casey,
Speaker 1: and Casey, who's the father of metaphysics, was a Christian
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and he came up with all these
Speaker 1: holistic remedies and he's a like he was like the
Speaker 1: first medical intuitive, right. He would he would dream the recipes,
Speaker 1: do these to these concoctions that he put together for people.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's true. And even Carl Jung who really
Speaker 3: started all of the symbolism and the Louise Hay stuff
Speaker 3: and everything people are doing now, it's really all based
Speaker 3: on YOUNGI and stuff and young theories, you know. And
Speaker 3: he was a Christian too, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you and when you get into the
Speaker 1: conversation of science, like if right, quantum physics now has
Speaker 1: allowed us to connect the dots and a lot of
Speaker 1: these things. So it's no longer a mystical Oh it's
Speaker 1: from God or it's from Satan. This is just the
Speaker 1: way nature works. This is how the world is.
Speaker 3: So I try to make what I do as non
Speaker 3: woo woo as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although there is pretty oh yeah, something we said
Speaker 1: about the woo that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes it more fun, it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make fun right, all right, Well, it's been it's
Speaker 1: been wonderful speaking with Is there anything that you want
Speaker 1: to make sure that you get to our across to
Speaker 1: our audience before we say goodbye.
Speaker 3: My my website will be on your your notes. It's
Speaker 3: Katiebeacher dot com on you know, Instagram and Facebook and
Speaker 3: all the places. And I love hearing from people. I
Speaker 3: offer a lot of different types of services and so
Speaker 3: much can be accomplished in just one reading. So I
Speaker 3: don't want people to feel like it's you know, a
Speaker 3: link in to like you know, tan appointments. We start
Speaker 3: with one, and it's.
Speaker 1: Not like psychology wh where you you know, you're there
Speaker 1: for a couple of years or whatever. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to shout out that I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you connected yourself with Youngian psychology because Oldian psychology is
Speaker 1: not very good.
Speaker 3: I really like you guys. It would actually be quite
Speaker 3: fun to go have a drink with.
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 2: Apparently you just have to look at the night standing.
Speaker 1: All right, So so that I don't butcher it, Can
Speaker 1: you tell us again in the name of your book?
Speaker 3: Yes, Heal from Within a guidebook to Intuitive wellness and
Speaker 3: available everywhere whatever you on Amazon and all the places
Speaker 3: so internationally.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Well, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Then we are going to add a direct link to
Speaker 1: the book and to your website and socials in our
Speaker 1: show notes. So if you are interested in connecting with Katie,
Speaker 1: and I recommend that you do because I'm really I'm
Speaker 1: gonna because I'm really curious about your readings, all you
Speaker 1: need to do is go to skeptic a position dot
Speaker 1: com and go to her episode page. You'll see that
Speaker 1: link directly initial All you need to do is hit
Speaker 1: enter and you'll be connected. Katie, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being on the show. It's been a really fun
Speaker 1: conversation with her.
Speaker 3: My pleasure and sorry for the technical difficulties at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Your your patience is appreciated.
Speaker 1: What technical difficulties. I don't remember any technical difficulties. Right,
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you. Take care,