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<v Speaker 1>Karen, Yes, question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an answer for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well let's see what do a licensed therapist, a

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<v Speaker 1>psychic medium, and an abstract painter.

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<v Speaker 2>Having common Are they walking into a bar?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what after meeting her? Maybe so, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, a psychic medium, an abstract painter, and a licensed

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<v Speaker 2>therapist licensed therapist, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was a trick question because actually they are

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<v Speaker 1>all Katie Beacher and this is the person that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>this woman creates soul level medical readings without ever seeing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just your name, your age, that's it. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>she gives you a four page physical, emotional, and spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>health report plus a symbiotic watercolor portrait of your soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I know right, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's been featured in Goop, in Push, and even

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<v Speaker 1>on Coast to Coast AM with George Norri. But today

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<v Speaker 1>she is joining us, so she's made the big time. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever wondered what your symptoms might be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, or how to heal from the inside out,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to stick around for this one because Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not just an intuitive. She is verified. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Will, and unlike Boulder and Scully, want

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<v Speaker 4>to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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<v Speaker 2>metaphysical world.

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<v Speaker 4>We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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<v Speaker 4>joined a coven.

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<v Speaker 2>Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.

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<v Speaker 4>All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will

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<v Speaker 4>prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Three dimensional world we all live in.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, I'm Will, and we are welcoming you back

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<v Speaker 1>to another power packed episode of the Skeptic Metaposians. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>guest is someone who bridges the gap between science and

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<v Speaker 1>spirit in a truly extraordinary way.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Beecher is a licensed professional counselor and an internationally

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<v Speaker 1>recognized medical and emotional intuitive with over thirty five years

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<v Speaker 1>of experience. She's been featured on Goop, on Push, On,

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<v Speaker 1>Miranda Kerr's Cora Organics, Coast to Coast AM, and more

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<v Speaker 1>than two hundred other media outlets.

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 1>Her unique method involves creating a detailed four page intuitive

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<v Speaker 1>report and a symbolic soul painting. Before she even meets

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<v Speaker 1>her clients. All she uses is her name and age.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also the author of the best selling book Heal

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<v Speaker 1>from Within, an Intuitive Guide to Wellness, which empowers people

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<v Speaker 1>to connect to their bodies, uncover root causes of illness,

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<v Speaker 1>and tap into their own intuitive healing power. Now having

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<v Speaker 1>personally healed from bulimia, depression, lime disease, and mold toxicity,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie brings not only professional wisdom, but lived experience to

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<v Speaker 1>everything she does. Please welcome the one, the only Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Beecher the show. Katie, Welcome to No How you doing today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great, Thank you so much. You guys are awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you think we're awesome. Some people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've got our snows.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, so good. Karen, all right, Katie, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. In our research, we found that

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<v Speaker 1>you do things a little differently. We've talked to people

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<v Speaker 1>who do soul paintings before, we've talked to medical intuitives before.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we ever talked to someone that

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<v Speaker 1>does them both at the same time. So this is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>So first, the soul paintings do they act as a

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<v Speaker 1>tool to help you to diagnose what might be going

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<v Speaker 1>on with someone.

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<v Speaker 3>So they do. The way that I use them is

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<v Speaker 3>I do the report first, and it's very detailed and

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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff that you said, and then I create

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<v Speaker 3>the painting afterwards, and it both verifies the information in

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<v Speaker 3>my report and gives me different kinds of information about

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<v Speaker 3>the person. And delivering something symbolically to someone is a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit softer, if you will. So if you're reading

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<v Speaker 3>a report and you see the words, you know, sexual

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<v Speaker 3>abuse or a very serious diagnosis. To be clear, I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot legally or ethically diagnose, I really want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do identify symptoms and I do make suggestions

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<v Speaker 3>for what things might be, and then I help connect

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<v Speaker 3>people with practitioners I trust for formal diagnoses and things.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's really important to me that people know that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the soul painting, for example, I might be directed

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<v Speaker 3>by my guides to put a lot of red in

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<v Speaker 3>certain areas, maybe around the second chakra, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>hip area of reproductive organs, things like that, and so

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<v Speaker 3>if I pick up abuse in that area and I

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<v Speaker 3>put red there. Then people usually know what that means,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might be a miscarriage, it might be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>endometriosis or hysterectomy or something like that. But people usually

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<v Speaker 3>just intuitively are like, oh, I know what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a gentler way of beginning a difficult conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it could be just a bump on the table

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<v Speaker 1>as you're on your way to the danging room.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, So does each color mean something or

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<v Speaker 2>do you just kind of put things together and then

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<v Speaker 2>read the whole feeling behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, My guys start by giving me a color, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I usually start at the top of the image

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<v Speaker 3>of a person. So the image can be of a figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's an insect, sometimes an animal, so they really

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<v Speaker 3>it could be a plant, but it's all symbolizing the person.

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<v Speaker 3>And my guys have you start with a color and

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<v Speaker 3>then I just kind of go down. Whatever they tell

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<v Speaker 3>me to put gets put there, and the colors matter

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<v Speaker 3>and it's an individual interpretation for each person. But also

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<v Speaker 3>things like you know, the placement of the arms. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's say your arms are totally out like this, it

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<v Speaker 3>could be that you're welcoming new information. It could mean

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<v Speaker 3>that you're vulnerable. Let's say your arms are in front

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<v Speaker 3>of your heart and you could be protecting yourself. Call

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<v Speaker 3>it different colors in the legs, for example, legs represent

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward in life. So let's say there's some agenta

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<v Speaker 3>there and magentas about being your true, authentic self. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're being told that the way to move forward is

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<v Speaker 3>just by being yourself, you know. So it's it's really individualized.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really fun. Even though the paintings literally look like

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<v Speaker 3>a five year old did them, so, you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>and being a fine artist, I was sort of like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are these things for me? Yet there really is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't know how people would receive them,

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<v Speaker 3>and they really love them and they like to ount

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<v Speaker 3>and frame them, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun the abstract, but you can actually make out

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<v Speaker 1>someone's body because you can write as helps what the

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<v Speaker 1>color is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you can definitely make out a figure or let's

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<v Speaker 3>say it's a plant, or it could be a combination

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<v Speaker 3>of a plant and a figure, or some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>insect like a butterfly or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you.

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<v Speaker 3>As abstract e ish as they definitely are, you can

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<v Speaker 3>definitely make up you know, pedals of a flower or

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<v Speaker 3>leaves or legs and arms and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, so then I think you got you might

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<v Speaker 1>be seeing that if you're watching these on video, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be seeing some examples of these paintings on the video.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, just go to a blog and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see those paintings in there as well that we're putting

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, have you had the opportunity to do or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you have or not, I don't know, like an after picture,

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<v Speaker 2>so you diagnose some and then they kind of work

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<v Speaker 2>on the issues and then paint their soul again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do have a lot of repeat clients, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's super fun to look at, you know, what comes

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<v Speaker 3>up in the report again or what their paintings look

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<v Speaker 3>like again, and to see the growth. And people are

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<v Speaker 3>always kind of surprised at, you know, because we don't

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<v Speaker 3>always realize that we're growing or changing or healing because

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<v Speaker 3>we're in it. So to be able to see it

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<v Speaker 3>in the report and especially in the paintings, it's really

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<v Speaker 3>really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Right well, so the obviously the people once they come

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<v Speaker 1>to you is because they feel they have something going

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<v Speaker 1>on as or you just do it generally and people

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<v Speaker 1>then find that there's something they need to look at

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<v Speaker 1>after they see the painting.

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<v Speaker 3>My clients are pretty varied. Most of them, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say, have symptoms that they either know what the

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<v Speaker 3>causes and they're not healing and they want help with them,

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<v Speaker 3>or they don't know what the root causes it all,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've been to eight trillion practitioners and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>keep hearing it's in your head, or they get a

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<v Speaker 3>misdiagnosis or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also have people who just want to know

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<v Speaker 3>more about healing relationships or setting boundaries or healing trauma,

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<v Speaker 3>or career help or you know whatever. And the nice

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<v Speaker 3>thing about the readings is that we cover everything and

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<v Speaker 3>anything in that that one hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point, right because the very first thought

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<v Speaker 1>is you're talking about health, right, You're talking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you started the conversation with you know, potential

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<v Speaker 1>sexual abuse for example, which is not health thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, gues it.

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<v Speaker 1>May it may represent it may end up being in

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<v Speaker 1>that sense, but but it goes way deeper than just

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<v Speaker 1>a physical ailment. But this you can you can help

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<v Speaker 1>people not just with health, but you do it with

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, career, you can do it with relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do it with you know, finding that pot

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<v Speaker 1>of goal at the end of the rainbow or all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, And it's really important to know that if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at root, physical, emotional, and spiritual are all

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<v Speaker 3>really important to consider. And my guides don't see time

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<v Speaker 3>in a linear fashion. So I will get stuff from

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<v Speaker 3>someone's childhood or from ten years ago or in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>or I'll get information from people that they care about

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe they're loved ones in spirit, you know. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's kind of I have to discern what's now

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<v Speaker 3>and what's in the past. And the information in the

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<v Speaker 3>past or for someone else usually comes through as just

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit fainter. So if I see a picture,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say, it's just a little fainter, or hear a

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<v Speaker 3>fainter word in my head or something like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just put it out there and then we talk

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha now, you said also in the future, how how

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<v Speaker 2>does that work? Like, how do you get that information in?

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<v Speaker 2>How can you use that to help someone?

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people say, you know, am I

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<v Speaker 3>going to get better what can I do to help

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<v Speaker 3>myself things like that, And so I don't give people

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<v Speaker 3>timelines because it's not fair and there's so many variables,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. But I do get feelings about, yes, this

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, all right, we're burying the lead, right, bulimia,

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<v Speaker 3>It's not okay. And my family was really toxic, and

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<v Speaker 3>You guys may have done young and stuff before, and

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<v Speaker 3>for me, that was the perfect match because she taught

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<v Speaker 3>I was ready though, you know, And I like to

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<v Speaker 1>Such a great point, right. We talk all the time

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes we have to go really far or comfort

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's that must have been your guides

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<v Speaker 2>and your intuition, because what teenager calls the pediatrician on

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<v Speaker 2>their own right, you know, So that's really fantastic that

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<v Speaker 3>It was divine intervention. It really was, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that I had gotten into a college that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't have mom and dad to rely on anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>them anyways. So yeah, it was like, Okay, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a motivation now and hope and you know, things like

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<v Speaker 3>that controlling.

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<v Speaker 2>You in ways you didn't want to control.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, exactly, that's a thick guy not thinking of the

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's okay, you know. And then for the lime

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<v Speaker 3>and mold and all those other things, it was a physical,

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<v Speaker 3>emotional and spiritual journey for sure. I fortunately had an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing naturopath that I worked with who I lived in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'd had limes since I was a kid

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't know it, so and the traditional doctors were

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<v Speaker 3>no help. No one ever brought up all the symptoms

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<v Speaker 3>of a lime disease that I had, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>again the sense to find a naturopath at seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, worked with these people. It wasn't chill. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like forty five un till I got to diagnose

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<v Speaker 3>with Lime. But it was through working with her and

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<v Speaker 3>then doing a lot of spiritual work, talking in my symptoms,

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<v Speaker 3>asking the lime like, Okay, I'm going to treat you

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<v Speaker 3>as my friend, why are you here? What do you

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<v Speaker 3>have to tell me? And kind of to your point

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<v Speaker 3>before what I like to tell people is the trick

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<v Speaker 3>is listening to your symptoms and intuition early before they

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<v Speaker 3>need to almost kill you out to be like, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about your book for a second, because it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes hand in hand with what you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>Your book, Heal from Within, you talk about symptoms as

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<v Speaker 1>messages from the body, right and you spirit and you

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<v Speaker 1>say that there's a way to get messages from your

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<v Speaker 1>some underlying challenges you have to work on. How does

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<v Speaker 1>that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? One hundred percent. And when I was going through

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<v Speaker 3>therapy and my recovery journey when I was sixteen, my

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<v Speaker 3>guides told me to write the book. They told me

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<v Speaker 3>to pass on what I learned to teach people how

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<v Speaker 3>to connect to theirselves and their intuition and all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>So it took me, you know, several decades to actually

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<v Speaker 3>write it, but that's okay, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it out. I got a lot more than most

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<v Speaker 1>people do, so congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was the Lime disease when I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>Lime and said, why are you here? What do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you scaring me? And it's like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>time to write your proposal? So there you go. So

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<v Speaker 3>there is a great example of a symptom and a

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<v Speaker 3>diagnosis that I listened to and talk to instead of fearing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I you know, had that dialogue with it. I

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<v Speaker 3>talk about how to do the dialogues and all that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff in the book, but it was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you want me to do? Why are you

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<v Speaker 3>in my life right now? And why is this so unpleasant?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I was afraid of writing the proposal. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a I am an author, but I'm not really a writer,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Thank God for edging. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was scary. And these symptoms come about to make you change.

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<v Speaker 3>So work with people all the time who come to

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<v Speaker 3>me for a physical issue. And my guides in the

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<v Speaker 3>report reveal that, oh, there've been a really dysfunctional relationship

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<v Speaker 3>that they've been trying to get out of forever. Or

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<v Speaker 3>you're letting people walk all over you, or you're doing

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<v Speaker 3>too much for others and you need to set boundaries,

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<v Speaker 3>or any other you know, you need to change how

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<v Speaker 3>you eat, or guess what it's time to stop smoking,

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<v Speaker 3>or any you know, any of the things above. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's that discomfort that forces us to look at our

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<v Speaker 3>the littlest symptom. So you get a little headache, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to figure out we're all medical intuitives, really,

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<v Speaker 3>So you have a symptom and you start asking yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>what is this about? What caused it? What do I

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<v Speaker 3>need to do? So get a headache or a stomach ache?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Can I go to this event that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to go to? Is there a deeper cause? Is this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a repetitive event? Things like that. So and

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<v Speaker 3>with our kids too, our kids get sick and we

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<v Speaker 3>have to sort of be medical detectives. So what I

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<v Speaker 3>do is kind of that on steroids, But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean that we all don't you do it to a

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really listening to your intuition and your body, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you feel in your body, then you have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask your body what's going on, and then your

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<v Speaker 1>intuition is what kind of clears the path were understanding? Right? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's where I run into a problem. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>need more alcohol. So for those people, for those people

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<v Speaker 1>who maybe don't trust your intuition all that much, what

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<v Speaker 2>Us to let me first add a disclaimer the way

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<v Speaker 2>you said that it doesn't drink every day, not even

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<v Speaker 2>every week, but when you're stressed out, he'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of drinks. It's not like amore, Wow, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't look at my closet.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But but for those a lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the show, and perhaps some of the hosts

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<v Speaker 1>of this show, I have some challenges with trusting their intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>So how can you feel confident that what you're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>in your intuition is actually what you need to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That is such a great question, and it comes up

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<v Speaker 3>during You're very welcome during every session. I do it myself,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, okay, because we're so emotionally involved with ourselves,

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<v Speaker 3>and expectations come in there and self doubt and the

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<v Speaker 3>times when oh I thought I trusted my intuition then

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't work out so well. Right, So I have

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<v Speaker 3>a written technique in my book that literally saved my life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's based on youngin psychology with my own spin and

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<v Speaker 3>doing having a conversation with your intuition and writing. First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, you have to stop what you're doing to

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<v Speaker 3>like mindfulness meditation. You're more focused and so you're less

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<v Speaker 3>any other thing that's going on. So that helps with

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<v Speaker 3>the focus. And what I advise people is don't overthink

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<v Speaker 3>the information. Even if you're just listening in your head.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to figure out whether it's your intuition

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to what you hear and then start discerning. So

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<v Speaker 3>is this actually fear? Am I projecting my fears onto

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And if that's the case, then ask yourself what am

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<v Speaker 3>difficult information I'm hearing, such as I need to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of this relationship with someone, or I need to

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<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling the need to drink more? Right, what does

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<v Speaker 3>call to action in terms of do I have an addiction?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have a problem? So really go deep into

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<v Speaker 3>And even if you listen and you make a mistake,

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<v Speaker 3>you've still learned something by that experience. But the number

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<v Speaker 3>one thing I think is people here scary stuff and

428
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<v Speaker 3>about change, and change is scary, and they don't want

429
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<v Speaker 3>to do it, and they're afraid and it feels overwhelming

430
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<v Speaker 3>because it doesn't happen overnight, So everything gets pushed down

431
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<v Speaker 3>and then you're totally cut off from any intuition. So

432
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<v Speaker 3>don't overthink it. But don't be afraid to go deeper and.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Write it down. Right, that's the number one thing you get.

434
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<v Speaker 1>You just just get pin the paper and write it down.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I don't forget, right, Yeah.

436
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<v Speaker 1>And it's an actual dialogue connects you, right, it connects

437
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<v Speaker 1>you more like kneel down a wash. Yeah, conversations with

438
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<v Speaker 1>God exactly. The problem with that is that I got

439
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<v Speaker 1>to put my drink down to right.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I'm going to change the subject very slightly here.

441
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<v Speaker 3>But you actually don't because you could have the drink

442
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<v Speaker 3>in one hand and your pen and the other.

443
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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

444
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<v Speaker 2>I can't a drinker. So in every we have these

445
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<v Speaker 2>conversations and we learned these things. And there's something that

446
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<v Speaker 2>you said a while ago that just like struck me

447
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<v Speaker 2>in my So I'm listening but also kind of going

448
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<v Speaker 2>down this other like mental rabbit hole. And so you

449
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<v Speaker 2>talked about being friends with blind disease. You made it

450
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<v Speaker 2>your friend, and you had this dialogue, and I'm just

451
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<v Speaker 2>I just started thinking about, you know, the things that

452
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<v Speaker 2>that I have certain issues with, and this stuff just

453
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<v Speaker 2>started kind of coming in and popping into my head.

454
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm looking at this there's this one

455
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<v Speaker 2>issue that's kind of plagued me for years and years,

456
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, okay, so if I look at that

457
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<v Speaker 2>as my friend and instead of thinking, oh I have

458
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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of this, I have to let it go.

459
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<v Speaker 2>That's not right, that's not true, and think, Wow, this

460
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<v Speaker 2>situation has this way that I am has helped protect

461
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<v Speaker 2>me and keep me safe for all of these years,

462
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<v Speaker 2>and I need to be grateful for that and think

463
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<v Speaker 2>it and then let it go.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Right because it's no longer serving you as much.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's done its work and it's been part of

466
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<v Speaker 2>who I am, and I can let it go and

467
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<v Speaker 2>look at it as a friend instead of like, oh God,

468
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<v Speaker 2>I've got to get over this. It's just that one

469
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<v Speaker 2>little thing.

470
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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, so there's a common denominator and all

471
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<v Speaker 1>this that we're talking about, right it's a changing perspective

472
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<v Speaker 1>right right now. And we've talked about a lot on

473
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<v Speaker 1>the show before. Your perspective really dictates how you react

474
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<v Speaker 1>to or any particular given thing. So that's a really

475
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<v Speaker 1>good first step.

476
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<v Speaker 3>It does. And also, the traditional medical model is fight,

477
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<v Speaker 3>take drugs, mask, you know, be a warrior. And I

478
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<v Speaker 3>get all that, but what if we stopped fighting and

479
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<v Speaker 3>what if we listened? And fighting creates so much health anxiety,

480
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<v Speaker 3>and then people that are afraid to like go get

481
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<v Speaker 3>blood tests or open their results, or get an ultrasound

482
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<v Speaker 3>or because they're so afraid that things are going to

483
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<v Speaker 3>be so bad instead of just gee, I want to

484
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<v Speaker 3>know the answers because then I could do something about that.

485
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<v Speaker 1>That's so true. Whenever I get my test results back

486
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<v Speaker 1>from my doctor, my heart is pounding to me.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

488
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well I have history with that. That might

489
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<v Speaker 1>be why. But so you I mentioned in the teaser,

490
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<v Speaker 1>I tossed it in and people might have called it,

491
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<v Speaker 1>might not have called it. I mentioned that you are verified,

492
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<v Speaker 1>you have been verified by medical professionals. Tell us about that.

493
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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I at the very about the beginning. But

494
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<v Speaker 3>about twelve years ago, maybe I don't know what date

495
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<v Speaker 3>it is today, but about twelve years ago I contacted

496
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<v Speaker 3>age a journal. It's a peer review journal, and it

497
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 3>was an MD who had this journal, and I wanted

498
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<v Speaker 3>to do a little study verifying my abilities and my accuracy,

499
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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to get some of the doctors from

500
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<v Speaker 3>my clients involved. And they gave me permission, of course,

501
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<v Speaker 3>and did a informal survey of about eighty of my

502
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<v Speaker 3>clients and just did like a questionnaire about what was accurate,

503
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>what wasn't things like that, and then also contacted these

504
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<v Speaker 3>doctors and had them give or the clients gave permission

505
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<v Speaker 3>for their medical files. And it showed that before I

506
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<v Speaker 3>did the reading with them, they had these diagnoses that

507
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<v Speaker 3>I and symptoms that I correctly identified. So it was

508
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<v Speaker 3>important to me to get that kind of empirical data

509
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<v Speaker 3>and my you know, accuracies like something in the ninety

510
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<v Speaker 3>seven percentile or something that with that.

511
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was pretty cool, I'd say, yeah.

512
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<v Speaker 3>Right, And also just a lot of like when I

513
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<v Speaker 3>do readings for doctors, or when I did the reading

514
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<v Speaker 3>for a group, or a lot of the big media stuff.

515
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<v Speaker 3>You know, they don't put your information up there unless

516
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<v Speaker 3>you're actually good at what you do. So I had

517
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<v Speaker 3>to do readings for them and have them, you know,

518
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<v Speaker 3>verify that information.

519
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<v Speaker 1>How can How did I not think about that? Katie,

520
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to come on the show, You've got to

521
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<v Speaker 1>do a reading right.

522
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<v Speaker 3>Next time?

523
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Missed opportunity time? Well that's cool. So you did it

524
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>for the media like you did it for Jordan Nour

525
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and all those kinds of people.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like the Goop had a group

527
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<v Speaker 3>not not going but the person below her and so.

528
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<v Speaker 3>But that's really important to me because I cannot b

529
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 3>s the readings and the reports they get them before

530
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I talk to them. So again that's it's important to

531
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<v Speaker 3>me to have credibility, you know, that people can trust me.

532
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, yeah, super important. Of course. Now you we've

533
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<v Speaker 1>talked about the fact that this you intuit things in

534
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of spectrums, right, the health and spirituality and

535
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. If cinsitioals really focus on

536
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>spiritual weakenings and that kind of stuff, if someone is

537
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>wanting to further their spiritual growth, is this something that

538
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you can identify and help with as well?

539
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, every session, during every single session, every session,

540
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<v Speaker 3>I teach people how to connect to their intuition, how

541
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>to develop whatever gifts they have, how to trust their

542
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 3>intuition because I don't want anyone substituting their intuition for mine.

543
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<v Speaker 3>You know, I will be honest with what my guides

544
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 3>get and everything, but it's always how does this feel

545
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 3>to you? Is this resonating with you? You know? Just don't

546
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 3>just listen to me and nod your head. I don't

547
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 3>want that, And I want to know is there something

548
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 3>in the port that didn't resonate, because maybe it was

549
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 3>for somebody else I was reading at the time, or

550
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I loved one of theirs. So we talk

551
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 3>a lot about how people can listen to their bodies

552
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 3>and their intuition and develop whatever gifts they already have.

553
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<v Speaker 1>All right, well cool, I think I need the book

554
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 1>a session. Okay, so let's come back to your soul pinions.

555
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<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious about that. Have you ever painted something

556
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.759
<v Speaker 1>that really, like, just shocked you? So can you tell

557
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about that.

558
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I actually had the idea that you were going

559
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to ask me about this, So this is super cool.

560
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<v Speaker 3>I was doing a reading on a five year old

561
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<v Speaker 3>boy and all I knew was that he was five,

562
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 3>and I did a very different type of soul painting.

563
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<v Speaker 3>And it was a fire truck that had a very

564
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>long ladder and behind it was a tall sort of

565
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 3>apartment type building and there was a fireman with a hose,

566
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 3>so you know clear what it was. And then I

567
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>was trying consciously, I was trying to make the hose

568
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<v Speaker 3>on the side of the truck you know, it's kind

569
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 3>of coiled up, and I just my brain in my

570
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 3>hand weren't connecting, and all I could make was this

571
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 3>s shape. And I literally said to myself, is this

572
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Superman's firetruck right saw? I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna

573
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>go with it. When I talked to the mom, she

574
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 3>said her son was autistic, non verbal, and right before

575
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>she got found out she was pregnant with him, they

576
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 3>lost all of their belongings in an apartment fire. The

577
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 3>whole like place burned down and she lost everything, and

578
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 3>she said she was completely devastated, had no hope, and

579
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>then found out she was pregnant.

580
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

581
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 3>And she said this, this her little boy literally saved

582
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>her and has such impact on all the people he meet.

583
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<v Speaker 3>He's this very, you know, charismatic individual who's not even verbal.

584
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<v Speaker 3>And she said that she was so moved that she

585
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 3>calls him her Superman. It gets better, it gets better,

586
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>and she I don't remember what Superman's middle name is,

587
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 3>but that is the middle name of her her son.

588
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't I honestly don't remember. I don't know my mind.

589
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<v Speaker 1>I don't have me big big Superman.

590
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<v Speaker 3>Fr It's nice Okay, so whatever it is, that's the

591
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 3>middle name she gave her son. So I remember just

592
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 3>she was in tears, you know when when she saw

593
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the painting. I was getting chills. She was getting chills.

594
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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

595
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's one I will never forget for sure.

596
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't want I'm taking all the questions.

597
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<v Speaker 2>Well, so how did you first start doing this soul painting?

598
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<v Speaker 2>Like what what led you to that?

599
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 3>I've always been an artist, and I think it was

600
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 3>kind of the young my Youngian psychology background too. He

601
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 3>uses a lot of symbolism and art therapy, and art

602
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 3>therapy has always been a really important healing tool for

603
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 3>me and I have training in it too, And I

604
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>wanted to incorporate something symbolic with the written words of

605
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>the report because the it just feels impersonal sometimes even

606
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>though it's deeply personal. But it just sort of came

607
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 3>to me. I think I was looking at the Red Book, actually,

608
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Carl Jung's Red Book, which is pretty intense depiction of

609
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 3>his spiritual journey, and it just came again, you know,

610
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 3>spiritual intervention of what if you could make a symbolic

611
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 3>representation of these people's lives and their bodies and energy

612
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>and what would it look like. So I kind of

613
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 3>fooled around with it, and I, you know, used a

614
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of people as guinea pigs. And that's how can do.

615
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<v Speaker 1>Every once in a while when we have a guest

616
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 1>that we really love on the show, we asked and

617
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 1>we asked permission to ask some curveball questions that might

618
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.759
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit out of the norm. You cool

619
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<v Speaker 1>with doing? Okay, all right, here's the first curveball question

620
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through you. Right, if someone asked you to

621
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<v Speaker 1>create a medical intuitive reading for planet Earth, what do

622
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you think you'd find?

623
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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Okay, that's depressing. A lot of hurt, abuse is

624
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 3>coming to mind, neglect, kind of taking being taken for granted,

625
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>needing to set boundaries, a lot of symptoms that people

626
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 3>aren't aren't looking at, you know, enough and aren't responding

627
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to enough, and the fact that we need the planet

628
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 3>to be as healthy as possible, not just for now,

629
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>but for our futures, and that we need to really

630
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<v Speaker 3>listen more and take better care of it.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's how it sounds like.

632
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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me of something I just heard yesterday on

633
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>NPR talking about taking care of the earth. Apparently in

634
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<v Speaker 2>Paris they have disallowed cars. What people can't drive cars anymore.

635
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Then they can take public transportation and they can walk,

636
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<v Speaker 2>and they're planning a little mini urban forests. I had

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<v Speaker 2>just heard about this, and at first I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor so that the Parisians are very you know, upset

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<v Speaker 2>about this. Now they're like this is they're actually getting

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<v Speaker 2>out and enjoying Paris again. People are outside, they're walking,

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<v Speaker 2>their biking more.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this a credible source that NPR PR no cure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. I was, yeah, whatever, the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I listened.

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<v Speaker 1>To like, wow, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, remember remember back during the COVID when everything was

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<v Speaker 1>closing down, the dolphins will come back to venness and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's hope there is.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like like Paris and New York places

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<v Speaker 1>that have mass transportation. I can totally see that, But

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine that here you don't have a car,

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<v Speaker 1>here you're sunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they just incorporate, you know, they take out the

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<v Speaker 2>cars and they put a bus so people take you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the buses.

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<v Speaker 1>Or bikes like Denmark. Okay, cool. Well here's another, another

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<v Speaker 1>curveball question. If your intuition had a voice, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you describe the personality? Is it gentle, sassy, wise, parental, wise,

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<v Speaker 1>ass will.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also imagining how my husband would describe that. The

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<v Speaker 3>first thing that comes to mind is very honest and

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<v Speaker 3>loving and empathic and putting myself in the place of

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<v Speaker 3>others who've been through difficult things.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the voice would be like Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, not like a Karen. No, right, just differentiate.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right. So I remember the question I had if

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<v Speaker 1>it came to me the report that you give to people,

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that you're constantly like writing four pagsays

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<v Speaker 1>for people or do you have like a machine that

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<v Speaker 1>spits it out?

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I had a machine. No, my guys are

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a machine. Right. I purposely see maybe

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<v Speaker 3>six to nine people a week at the most, and

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<v Speaker 3>some of those are regular counseling clients, intuitive counseling clients

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<v Speaker 3>that I see on a regular basis. So I usually

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<v Speaker 3>do anywhere from four to six actual reports per week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do like those on Sundays and Mondays to

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<v Speaker 3>prepare for the week. So so no, I am not

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<v Speaker 3>constantly writing and I have a template that I start

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<v Speaker 3>with that is divided into all the chakras, and it

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<v Speaker 3>gives this the physical and emotional characteristics of each chakra,

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<v Speaker 3>so you don't have to know anything about chakras to

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<v Speaker 3>understand the report. And then I the third column is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of what I fill in for what I get

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<v Speaker 3>for the person that I'm doing the reading for.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, So it's more fill in the blank and not

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<v Speaker 1>like long form survey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, correct, I know, yeah, yeah, terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So for anyone that's listening who right now, who's

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with something that they can't explain, whether it's chronic pain,

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<v Speaker 1>or emotional overwhelm or just feeling stuck, what's the very

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<v Speaker 1>first step you recommend that they take?

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<v Speaker 3>What I where I start in my readings is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of doing an overview of what is the most pressing thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what's the thing that is impacting your life

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<v Speaker 3>the most, are bothering you the most? And even in

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<v Speaker 3>my book, I take people through a pretty extensive quiz

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<v Speaker 3>of what's going on in your life and and what

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<v Speaker 3>are the things that are most important to you? Were

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<v Speaker 3>to start, you know, sometimes people don't even know what's

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<v Speaker 3>bothering them because it's just been there forever and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know how to put it into words. So

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<v Speaker 3>sort of an identification of one thing that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to start working on because everything feels overwhelming, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>you try to do it all at once. And then

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<v Speaker 3>in the book and in my readings too, I start

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<v Speaker 3>with helping people connect to their intuition and their authentic

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<v Speaker 3>self and start by just trying to be calmer, be

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<v Speaker 3>more present and giving yourself a break, you know, not

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<v Speaker 3>being so hard on yourself, and that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>starts the ball rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha? Okay, a lot of people are talking about intuition,

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<v Speaker 1>of medicine, that kind of stuff right in this space, metaphysics, spirituality.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of it's although it's not new or young,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's a lot of new people coming to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of misconceptions that come along with

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<v Speaker 1>all this kinds of stuff. Are there any misconceptions you

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<v Speaker 1>feel are really important to dispel right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really glad you brought that up, because I have

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<v Speaker 3>been called a witch, I have been called satan, I

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<v Speaker 3>have been told that some of them by my own family,

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<v Speaker 3>right actually, yeah, I don't have anything to do with

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<v Speaker 3>them anymore. So there's a reason. But you know that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm anti Christian, that what I that listening to intuition

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<v Speaker 3>is going against the Bible, you know, it's being evil interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>And that is so incredibly sad to me because my

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<v Speaker 3>first connection to intuition was with God and it still

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<v Speaker 3>is and God is love, you know, I help people

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<v Speaker 3>heal and love themselves more.

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<v Speaker 2>And by.

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<v Speaker 3>Just having this assumption that you know nothing about that

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<v Speaker 3>it's somehow negative or evil or against God is just

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<v Speaker 3>it couldn't be further from the truth. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that is very sad. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are Christian who aren't in that thought process, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't fit into that thought process. Unfortunately, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them that are. And I can't help

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<v Speaker 1>but think that's based in fear, uoted in programming, and

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<v Speaker 1>fear that they've been brought up. And so it's as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I hate that they would feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>I do understand why. Unfortunately, you have to give them empathy. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about if you are even interested in

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<v Speaker 1>the space remotely, you probably have heard of Edgar Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>and Casey, who's the father of metaphysics, was a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, and he came up with all these

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<v Speaker 1>holistic remedies and he's a like he was like the

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<v Speaker 1>first medical intuitive, right. He would he would dream the recipes,

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<v Speaker 1>do these to these concoctions that he put together for people.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's true. And even Carl Jung who really

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<v Speaker 3>started all of the symbolism and the Louise Hay stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and everything people are doing now, it's really all based

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<v Speaker 3>on YOUNGI and stuff and young theories, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>he was a Christian too, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and you and when you get into the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation of science, like if right, quantum physics now has

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<v Speaker 1>allowed us to connect the dots and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. So it's no longer a mystical Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>from God or it's from Satan. This is just the

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<v Speaker 1>way nature works. This is how the world is.

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<v Speaker 3>So I try to make what I do as non

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<v Speaker 3>woo woo as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although there is pretty oh yeah, something we said

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<v Speaker 1>about the woo that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes it more fun, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make fun right, all right, Well, it's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>been wonderful speaking with Is there anything that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you get to our across to

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<v Speaker 1>our audience before we say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 3>My my website will be on your your notes. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Katiebeacher dot com on you know, Instagram and Facebook and

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<v Speaker 3>all the places. And I love hearing from people. I

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<v Speaker 3>offer a lot of different types of services and so

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<v Speaker 3>much can be accomplished in just one reading. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want people to feel like it's you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>link in to like you know, tan appointments. We start

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<v Speaker 3>with one, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not like psychology wh where you you know, you're there

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years or whatever. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to shout out that I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>you connected yourself with Youngian psychology because Oldian psychology is

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<v Speaker 1>not very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like you guys. It would actually be quite

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<v Speaker 3>fun to go have a drink with.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently you just have to look at the night standing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So so that I don't butcher it, Can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell us again in the name of your book?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Heal from Within a guidebook to Intuitive wellness and

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<v Speaker 3>available everywhere whatever you on Amazon and all the places

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<v Speaker 3>so internationally.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, Well, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we are going to add a direct link to

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<v Speaker 1>the book and to your website and socials in our

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. So if you are interested in connecting with Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I recommend that you do because I'm really I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna because I'm really curious about your readings, all you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do is go to skeptic a position dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and go to her episode page. You'll see that

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<v Speaker 1>link directly initial All you need to do is hit

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<v Speaker 1>enter and you'll be connected. Katie, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for being on the show. It's been a really fun

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with her.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure and sorry for the technical difficulties at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Your your patience is appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>What technical difficulties. I don't remember any technical difficulties. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you. Take care,
