WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.320 You're listening too later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:05.960 KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:11.880 You're listening to the ABC News presidential debate simulcast here 4 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:12.759 on KFI. 5 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:14.240 And just a moment, we'll be. 6 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:18.679 Returning to the presidential debate between former President Trump and 7 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:22.559 Vice President Kamala Harris, and we will continue until its end, 8 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:25.359 which should be about seven forty or so. 9 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:28.239 Now, let's return to the debate. 10 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:29.399 Mister President. 11 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.000 It has been the position of the Biden administration that 12 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:35.079 we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin, to 13 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:38.520 defend their sovereignty, their democracy, that it's an America's best 14 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.039 interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins, he 15 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:43.759 may be emboldened to move even further into other countries. 16 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:46.240 You have said you would solve this war in twenty 17 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.479 four hours, you said so just before the break tonight. 18 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.159 How exactly would you do that? And I want to 19 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:53.399 ask you a very simple question tonight. Do you want 20 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:55.200 Ukraine to win this war? 21 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.000 I want the war to stop. I want to save 22 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:02.320 lives that are being used lessly, people being killed by 23 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.840 the millions. It's the millions. It's so much worse than 24 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.879 the numbers that you're getting, which are fake numbers. Look, 25 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.200 we're in for two hundred and fifty billion or more. 26 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:16.079 Because they don't ask Europe, which is a much bigger 27 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:20.159 beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are. They're 28 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.159 in for one hundred and fifty billion dollars less because 29 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:27.400 Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe 30 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.920 like I did with NATO. They paid billions and billions, 31 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:34.000 hundreds of billions of dollars when I said, either you 32 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:36.239 pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore. 33 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.439 So that's maybe one of the reasons that don't like 34 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.840 me as much as they like weak people. But you 35 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.200 take a look at what's happening. We're in for two 36 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:46.959 hundred and fifty to two hundred and seventy five billion, 37 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.200 they're into one hundred to one hundred and fifty. They 38 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:54.319 should be forced to equalize. With that being said, I 39 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.079 want to get the war settled. I know Zelenski very well, 40 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:59.840 and I know Putin very well. I have a good relationship. 41 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:03.879 And they respect your president. Okay, they respect me. They 42 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:06.799 don't respect Biden. How would you respect him? Why? For 43 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.560 what reason? He hasn't even made a phone call in 44 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.360 two years to Putin hasn't spoken to anybody. They don't 45 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:14.719 even try and get it. That is a war that's 46 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.479 dying to be settled. I will get it settled before 47 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.240 I even become president if I win, when I'm president elect, 48 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.919 and what I'll do is I'll speak to one, I'll 49 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.719 speak to the other. I'll get him together. That war 50 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:29.400 would have never happened. And in fact, when I saw 51 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:34.280 Putin after I left, unfortunately left because our country has 52 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:36.719 gone to hell. But after I left, when I saw 53 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.400 him building up soldiers, he did it. After I left, 54 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.000 I said, oh, he must be negotiating. It must be 55 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.520 a good strong point of negotiation. Well it wasn't because 56 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:49.199 Biden had no idea how to talk to him. He 57 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:51.599 had no idea how to stop it. And now you 58 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.520 have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse, 59 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.639 and it could lead to World War three. Don't kid yourself, David. 60 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.360 We're playing with World War three and we have a 61 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.840 president that we don't even know if he's where is 62 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.360 our president? We don't even know if he's a president. 63 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.000 And just a clarify, he threw him out of a 64 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:09.800 campaign like a dog. We don't even know is he 65 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:13.039 our president? But we have a president. Mister President doesn't 66 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:13.759 know he's alive. 67 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:14.840 Your time is up. 68 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.319 Just to clarifying the question, do you believe it's in 69 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.400 the US best interests for Ukraine to win this war yesterday? 70 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.360 I think it's the US best interest to get this 71 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.400 war finished and just get it done, negotiated deal, because 72 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.919 we have to stop all of these human lives from 73 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:31.759 being destroyed. 74 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:33.360 I want to take this device, President Harris. 75 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.199 I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine 76 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.080 in this moment, but also as commander in chief if elected, 77 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.280 how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it 78 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.479 be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden. 79 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.439 Well, first of all, it's important to remind the former 80 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:51.039 president you're not running against Joe Biden, You're running against me. 81 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:55.800 I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this 82 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.199 war would be over within twenty four hours is because 83 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.719 he would just give it up. And that's not who 84 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.080 we are as Americans. Let's understand what happened here. I 85 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.639 actually met with Zelensky a few days before Russia invaded, 86 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:15.199 tried through force to change territorial boundaries to defy one 87 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.519 of the most important international rules and norms, which is 88 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:22.279 the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity. And I met 89 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:26.000 with President Zelensky, I shared with him American intelligence about 90 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.839 how he could defend himself. Days later, I went to 91 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:33.639 NATO's eastern flank, to Poland and Romania, and through the 92 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.639 work that I and others did, we brought fifty countries 93 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:41.720 together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because 94 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:46.319 of our support, because of the air defense, the ammunition, 95 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.000 the artillery, the javelins, the abrams tanks that we have provided, 96 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:54.279 Ukraine stands as an independent and free country. 97 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:55.360 If Donald Trump. 98 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.040 Were president, Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now. 99 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.600 And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is 100 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:07.439 not just about Ukraine. Understand why the European allies and 101 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:11.439 our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no 102 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:16.199 longer president, and that we understand the importance of the 103 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.240 greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO, 104 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.680 and what we have done to preserve the ability of 105 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:27.800 Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence. Otherwise, 106 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.959 Putin would be sitting in Kiev with his eyes on 107 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:34.000 the rest of Europe, starting with Poland, And why don't 108 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.959 you tell the eight hundred thousand Polish Americans right here 109 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:40.800 in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the 110 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.240 sake of favor and what you think is a friendship 111 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.439 with what is known to be a dictator who would 112 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:48.480 eat you for lunch. 113 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:51.839 Vice President Harris, thank you. We've heard from both of 114 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.839 you on Ukraine tonight. Afghanistan came up in the last hour. 115 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:57.399 I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier, 116 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.959 and now, please, I'll give you a minute here. 117 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.000 Putin would be sitting in Moscow, and he wouldn't have 118 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:07.439 lost three hundred thousand men in women, but he would 119 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.720 have been sitting in Moscow quiet place. He would have 120 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.879 been sitting in Moscow much happier than his right now. 121 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.000 But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other 122 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.199 people don't have. He's got nuclear weapons. They don't ever 123 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.240 talk about that. He got nuclear weapons. Nobody ever thinks 124 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:27.079 about that. And eventually maybe he'll use him and maybe 125 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.519 he hasn't been that threatening, but he does have that 126 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.480 something we don't even like to talk about. Nobody likes 127 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.319 to talk about it. But just so you understand, they 128 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.240 sent her to negotiate peace before this war started. Three 129 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:43.120 days later he went in and he started the war 130 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.319 because everything they said was weak and stupid. They said 131 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.360 the wrong things. That war should have never started. She 132 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.879 was the emissary. They sent her in to negotiate with 133 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.399 Zelenski and Putin, and she did and the war started 134 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:01.079 three days later. And that's what kind of talent we 135 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.040 have with her. She's worse than Biden in my opinion. 136 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.000 I think he's the worst president in the history of 137 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.399 our country. She goes down as the worst vice president 138 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.040 in the history of our country. But let me tell 139 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:15.399 you something. She is a horrible negotiator. They sent her 140 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.680 in to negotiate. As soon as they left Putin did 141 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:19.360 the invasion. 142 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.560 President Trump, thank you did bring up something you said 143 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.000 she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris, 144 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:26.439 have you ever met Vladimir Putin? Can you clarify tonight 145 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:27.519 yet again? 146 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:28.959 I said it at the beginning of the debate. You're 147 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.839 gonna hear a bunch of lies coming from this fellow. 148 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.360 And that is another one. When I went to meet 149 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.199 with President's a lanscap Now I met with him over 150 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.879 five times. The reality is it has been about standing 151 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:46.959 as America always should as a leader, upholding international rules 152 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.680 and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that 153 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:56.120 the alliances we have around the world are dependent on 154 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.399 our ability to look out for our friends and not 155 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:04.399 favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of 156 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:09.120 caring about democracy. And that is very much what is 157 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.920 at stake here. The President of the United States is 158 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.000 commander in chief, and the American people have a right 159 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:21.639 to rely on a president who understands the significance of 160 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:26.480 America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there 161 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.160 is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles 162 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:34.960 and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery. 163 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.919 We've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin. I do want 164 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.279 to talk about Afghanistan. It came up in the first 165 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:43.480 hour of this debate. I wanted to move on to Afghanistan. 166 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.600 Work said. Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen. 167 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.200 He got these countries, the twenty eight countries at the time, 168 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:52.879 to pay up. He said, I've never seen. He's the 169 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.960 head of NATO, he said, I've never seen. For years, 170 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.000 we were paying almost all of NATO. We were being 171 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.960 ripped off by your European nations, both on trade and 172 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.039 or NATO. I got them to pay up by saying, 173 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:08.000 one of the samans you made before. If you don't pay, 174 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.240 we're not going to protect you. Otherwise we would have 175 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.080 never gotten it. He said, it was one of the 176 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.759 most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done. 177 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.000 Thank you. I want to turn to Afghanistan. It came 178 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:18.840 up in the first hour of the debate, and we 179 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:21.519 witnessed an appoignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the 180 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.679 soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. I 181 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.440 do want to ask the Vice President, do you believe 182 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.759 you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out? 183 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.200 Well, I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's 184 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:39.279 decision to pull out of Afghanistan, for presidents said they would, 185 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.639 and Joe Biden did. And as a result, America's taxpayers 186 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.080 are not paying the three hundred million dollars a day 187 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.039 we were paying for that endless war. 188 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.639 And as of today, there is not one. 189 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.480 Member of the United States military who is in active 190 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.919 duty in a combat zone in any war zone around 191 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.480 the world the first time century. But let's understand how 192 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:05.600 we got to where we are. Donald Trump, when he 193 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:10.600 was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine. 194 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:12.240 He calls himself a deal maker. 195 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:15.879 Even his national security advisor said it was a weak, 196 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.080 terrible deal. And here's how it went down. He bypassed 197 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.799 the Afghan government. He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization 198 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:29.120 called the Taliban. The negotiation involved the Taliban getting five 199 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.960 thousand terrorists Taliban terrorists released and. 200 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:33.960 Get this, no, get this. 201 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:39.279 And the president at the time invited the Taliban to 202 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:45.279 Cap David, a place of storied significance for us as Americans, 203 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:49.639 a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy, 204 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:54.039 where we invite and receive respected world leaders. 205 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.080 And this. 206 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:03.279 Former president as president in invited them to Camp David 207 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:09.159 because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility 208 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.600 of the President of the United States to be commander in. 209 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.440 Chief with a level of respect. 210 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.080 And this gets back to the point of how he 211 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:23.759 has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers, 212 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.960 and the work that we must do to uphold the 213 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.679 strength and the respect of the United States of America 214 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:31.559 around the world. 215 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.039 Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump your response to 216 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:35.519 her saying that you began the negotia. 217 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.879 Yeah, thank you. So if you take a look at 218 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:43.639 that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, 219 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:47.759 a lot of them with snipers. And I got involved 220 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.240 with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing. 221 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.320 That's the fighting force within Afghanistan. They don't bother doing 222 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:55.960 that because you know, they deal with the wrong people 223 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.519 all the time. But I got involved. And Abdullah is 224 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:02.639 the head of the Taliban. He is still the head 225 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.279 of the Taliban. And I told that Duel, don't do 226 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.919 it anymore. You do it anymore, you're gonna have problems. 227 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.000 And he said, why do you send me a picture 228 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:11.440 of my house? I said, you're going to have to 229 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.759 figure that out at Duel. And for eighteen months we 230 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.039 had nobody killed. We did have an agreement negotiated by 231 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:21.159 Mike Pompeio. It was a very good agreement. The reason 232 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.039 it was good it was we were getting out. We 233 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:25.919 would have been out faster than them, but we wouldn't 234 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.240 have lost the soldiers. We wouldn't have left many Americans behind, 235 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.519 and we wouldn't have left. We wouldn't have left eighty 236 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.519 five billion dollars worth of brand new, beautiful military equipment behind. 237 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:41.320 And just to finish, they blew it. The agreement said 238 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.200 you have to do this, and they didn't do it. 239 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:49.879 They didn't do it. The agreement was terminated by us 240 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:53.519 because they didn't do what they were supposed to do. 241 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.559 And these people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion, 242 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.279 the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. 243 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.120 And by the way, that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because 244 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.399 they saw how incompetent she and her boss are. 245 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:11.320 President Trump, thank you. I want to move on now 246 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.840 to race and politics in this country, mister President. You 247 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.480 recently said a Vice President Harris quote, I didn't know 248 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.960 she was black until a number of years ago when 249 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.240 she happened to turn black, and now she wants to 250 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:22.200 be known as black. 251 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.799 I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight. 252 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:27.639 Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on 253 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:29.399 the racial identity of your opponent. 254 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:31.879 I don't and I don't care. I don't care what 255 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.480 she is. I don't care you make a big deal 256 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.559 out of something I couldn't care less. Whatever she wants 257 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:39.559 to be is okay with me. 258 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:41.679 But those were your words, so I'm asking you. 259 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.360 I don't know. I mean, all I can say is 260 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:47.039 I read where she was not black that she put 261 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.120 out and I'll say that. And then I read that 262 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.639 she was black, and that's okay. Either one who was 263 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.440 okay with me, that's up to her. That's up to her. 264 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.840 Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this, I. 265 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.480 Think it's I mean, honestly, I think it's a tragedy 266 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.720 that we have someone who wants to be president who 267 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.720 has consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to 268 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.000 use race to divide the American people. You know, I 269 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.399 do believe that the vast majority of us know that 270 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:20.200 we have so much more in common than what separates us, 271 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.440 and we don't want this kind of approach that is 272 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.879 just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race. 273 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.080 And let's remember how Donald Trump started. 274 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:30.639 He was a. 275 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.720 Land he'd owned land, he owned buildings, and he was 276 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:44.000 investigated because he refused to rent property to black families. 277 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:48.399 Let's remember this is the same individual who took out 278 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:51.759 a full page ad in the New York Times calling 279 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:57.960 for the execution of five young black and Latino boys 280 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:59.159 who were innocent. 281 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:00.799 The central part five. 282 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.399 Took out a full page ad calling for their execution. 283 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.840 This is the same individual who spread birth or lives 284 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:13.879 about the first black president of the United States. And 285 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.600 I think the American people want better than that, want 286 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.639 better than this, want someone who understands as I do. 287 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.279 I travel our country. 288 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.879 We see in each other a friend, We see in 289 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.879 each other a neighbor. We don't want a leader who 290 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.919 is constantly trying to have Americans point their fingers at 291 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:37.399 each other. 292 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:39.440 I meet with people. 293 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.399 All the time who tell me, can we please just 294 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:47.200 have discourse about how we're going to invest in the 295 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:52.039 aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American people, knowing. 296 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.559 That regardless of people's color or. 297 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.679 The language their grandmother speaks, we all have the same 298 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.519 dreams and aspirations and want a president who invest in those, 299 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:03.360 not in hate and division. 300 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.639 Vice President Harris, thank you, Lindsey. 301 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:07.720 President Trump, this is now your third time. 302 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:13.519 This is the most divisive presidency in the history of 303 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.759 our country. There's never been anything like it. They're destroying 304 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:20.879 our country and they come up with things like what 305 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.320 she just said. Going back many, many years, when a 306 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.879 lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed with me on 307 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.679 the Central Park five, they admitted, they said they pled guilty, 308 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.279 and I said, well, if they pled guilty, they badly 309 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.639 hurt a person, killed a person ultimately, and if they 310 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.000 pled guilty, then they pled. We're not guilty. But this 311 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.840 is a person that has to stretch back years, forty 312 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.639 fifty years ago because there's nothing now. I built one 313 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.639 of the greatest economies in the history of the world, 314 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:53.600 and I'm going to build it again. It's going to 315 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.440 be bigger, better and stronger. But they're destroying our economy. 316 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.399 They have no idea what a good economy is. Their 317 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:05.799 oil policies, every single policy. And remember this, she is Biden. 318 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.759 You know she's trying to get away from Biden. I 319 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.279 don't know the gentleman she says. She is Biden. The 320 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:16.240 worst inflation We've ever had, a horrible economy because inflation 321 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:19.480 has made it so bad, and you can't get away 322 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:19.759 with that. 323 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:21.880 You so much. I want to respond to that, though, 324 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.920 I want to just respond briefly clearly, I am not 325 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:30.440 Joe Biden, and I am certainly not Donald Trump, and 326 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.319 what I do offer is a new generation of leadership 327 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.799 for our country, one who believes in what is possible, 328 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:41.519 one who brings a sense of optimism about what we 329 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:47.039 can do instead of always disparaging the American people. I 330 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:52.000 believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses, 331 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:54.519 which is why I have a plan. Let's talk about 332 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.079 our plans, and let's compare the plans. I have a 333 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:04.440 plan to give startup businesses fifty thousand dollars tax deduction 334 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:10.640 to pursue their ambitions, their innovation, their ideas, their hard work. 335 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:14.960 I have a plan six thousand dollars for young families 336 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.680 for the first year of your child's life, to help 337 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:20.839 you in that most critical stage of your child's development. 338 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.680 I have a plan that is about allowing. 339 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.359 People to be able to pursue what has been fleeting 340 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:31.079 in terms of the American dream by offering a help 341 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.079 with down payment of twenty five thousand dollars down payment 342 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:35.039 assistance for. 343 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:36.319 First time home buyers. 344 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.160 That's the kind of conversation I believe, David, that people 345 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.680 really want tonight, as opposed to a conversation that is 346 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.359 constantly about belittling and name calling. 347 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.599 Let's turn the page. 348 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:55.079 Vice President Marrison, thank you. Let's move on. President, Let's 349 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:55.759 turn the policy. 350 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:00.200 Please to defund the police. She has a plan to 351 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:06.440 confiscate everybody's gun. President plan to allow fracking in Pennsylvania 352 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.200 or anywhere else. Okay, that's what her plan is until 353 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:10.599 just recently, I just want to go. 354 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:14.680 Something sorry that I need to respect. 355 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:16.440 I'm sorry, We're going to We're going to move on. 356 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:20.359 By President Trump, this is now your third time running 357 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:23.279 for president. You have long vowed to repeal and replace 358 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.400 the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. You have 359 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:28.960 failed to accomplish that. You now say you're going to 360 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:32.279 keep Obamacare quote, unless we can do something much better. 361 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.880 Last month you said, quote we're working on it. So tonight, 362 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.759 nine years after you first started running, do you have 363 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:40.960 a plan and can you tell us what it is? 364 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.599 Obamacare was lousy, healthcare always was. It's not very good today. 365 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.559 And what I said that if we come up with something, 366 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:50.839 and we are working on things, we're going to do it, 367 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:53.640 and we're going to replace it. But remember this, I 368 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:58.160 inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it, they wouldn't vote 369 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:01.079 for it. They were unanimous they would vote to change it. 370 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:02.799 If they would have done that, we would have had 371 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.640 a much better plan than Obamacare. But the Democrats came 372 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.400 up they wouldn't vote for it. I had a choice 373 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:11.720 to make when I was president. Do I save it 374 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:13.680 and make it as good as it can be, never 375 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.599 going to be great, or do I let it rot? 376 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.960 And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically 377 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:21.839 it would have been good to just let it rot 378 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:24.839 and let it go away. I decided, and I told 379 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.160 my people, the top people, and they're very good people. 380 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:29.519 I have a lot of good people in this administration. 381 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:31.799 We read about the bad ones. We had some real 382 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:34.000 bad ones too, and so do they They have really 383 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:35.680 bad ones. The differences, they don't get rid of it. 384 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.720 But let me just explain. I had a choice to make. 385 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.319 Do I save it and make it as good as 386 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.799 it can be, or do I let it rot? And 387 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:47.000 I saved it. I did the right thing. But it's 388 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:50.000 still never going to be great, and it's too expensive 389 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.200 for people. And what we will do is we're looking 390 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.680 at different plans. If we can come up with a 391 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.799 plan that's going to cost our people, our population less 392 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.519 my and be better healthcare than Obamacare, then I would 393 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:06.559 absolutely do it, But until then I'd run it as 394 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:07.920 good as it can be run. 395 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:09.839 So just yes or no. You still do not have 396 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:10.200 a plan. 397 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.200 I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now, 398 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.240 but if we come up with something, I would only 399 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:20.519 change it. If we come up with something that's better 400 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.920 and less expensive, and there are concepts and options. We 401 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:27.440