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<v Speaker 1>Times it takes a minute. Oh there we go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're live. Hi. This is William Ramsey. Welcome to William

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who I've listened to many times on many different shows.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking in the pre show. I just

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<v Speaker 1>heard him on James Corbett. I listened to it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's entirety. His name is Nick Bryant, b r y Ant,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a very accomplished author and journalist. And also

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a perfect time to interview him because

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<v Speaker 1>he was involved in the Epstein situation. I'm calling it

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<v Speaker 1>that or saga that going back before it even kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blew up in the public maybe in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. He is the author of a great book

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<v Speaker 1>on the Franklin scandal. It's called The Franklin Scandal, A

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<v Speaker 1>Story of Powerbrokers, child abuse and betrayal. That was two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine. His most recent book is The Truth

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<v Speaker 1>about Watergate, A Tale of Extraordinary Lies and Liars twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, and then he co authored a book, Confessions

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<v Speaker 1>of a DC Madam, The Politics of Sex Lives in

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<v Speaker 1>Blackmail twenty fifteen with him Henry W. Vinson talking about

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<v Speaker 1>sexual political blackmailse So this is going to be a theme.

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<v Speaker 1>He was involved in finding this black book. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it up back in I think he found

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<v Speaker 1>it in twenty twelve, of all times, I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was a manager was trying to sell it to pitch it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had true he can talk more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't hit the public in till twenty fifteen, is

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding. And he found some other manifests. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching this on Rockfinn, Rumble or ex Twitter, you

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<v Speaker 1>will see his website and it is Epstein Justice dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll put a link in the show notes and

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<v Speaker 1>you can just read the title here. Jeffrey Epstein and

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<v Speaker 1>Gallain Maxwell denoduct Loan. Yet no one else was prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 1>You've felt helpless to fight these sex traffickers until now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've titled this one this episode Epstein Justice Now

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<v Speaker 1>because there still is a requirement for justice and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been in the news so much. But I'm really delighted

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<v Speaker 1>to have him. So, Nick Bryant, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to be with you, William So for.

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<v Speaker 1>People other than your background, I mean, you were involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this Epstein stuff before it became popular, and no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Risen up until last week or two. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk firsthand about your background, how you got

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<v Speaker 1>involved in Epstein and just leading up to today.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in academia up until nineteen ninety five, and

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<v Speaker 2>at that point I decided to move to New York

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<v Speaker 2>City and become a freelance journalist writer, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I did. And I had written a lot about children's issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been sensitive to children's issues, so I'd written a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about that. And then in two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this innuendo on the Internet about a nationwide

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<v Speaker 2>trafficking network that was centered in Omaha, Nebraska, that flew

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<v Speaker 2>kids around the country, that was connected to the CIA,

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<v Speaker 2>that was plundering boys town for underage victims, and also

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<v Speaker 2>connected to blackmail. And I'm a little I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little incredulous, of course, because that's not a story like

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't very profuse or prolific. And but I came

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<v Speaker 2>from academia and I studied philosophy, and an important thing

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<v Speaker 2>about at least for me, studying philosophy, is to approach

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<v Speaker 2>everything agnostically. And to acquire as much information about the

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<v Speaker 2>subject as I can before I decide one way or

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<v Speaker 2>the other. So I went to Omaha and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a cold winter, and I started to dig into what

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<v Speaker 2>would be called the Franklin scandal. And I met a victim,

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<v Speaker 2>and I met one of the black mal photographers. I

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<v Speaker 2>met a senator that had tried to expose it. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>met a number of people, and one thing that really

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<v Speaker 2>jarred me was these people were frightened to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I was writing an expose on the

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<v Speaker 2>KGB and stalinist Russia, and I was followed and the

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<v Speaker 2>last night I was there actually had a death threat.

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew I was on the right path as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the story. And when I came back to

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<v Speaker 2>New York, I mean by the I spent a week

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<v Speaker 2>in Nebraska, and by that time I realized that this

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<v Speaker 2>was a huge pedophile network, and it had plundered boys

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<v Speaker 2>town and chances, and it was certainly covered up by

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<v Speaker 2>the state and federal authorities, and I felt like there

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<v Speaker 2>was a pretty good chance that it was connected to intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to nail down the DC component of this,

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<v Speaker 2>the DC blackmail component, but left pretty shocked. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 2>was stunned that our government would cover up child trafficking

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<v Speaker 2>or perpetuate child traving, have anything to do with child traffing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like I had to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people, when they see just really abominable evil,

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<v Speaker 2>can turn away and because they can't do anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like, well, I'm a writer, and maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>can do something. So I spent the next seven years

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<v Speaker 2>on that book, and I went about as deep into

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<v Speaker 2>a child trafving network as someone can get, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to get to many levels of it

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<v Speaker 2>and get a lot of corroboration, and the book was

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<v Speaker 2>probablysh two thousand and nine, twenty ten, and nobody wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to buy it. And I was on podcasts these are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nascent podcasts with lunatics, and that that was

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<v Speaker 2>very tough, and nobody wanted to buy the book, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the books. And I worked very hard at that book,

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<v Speaker 2>and there wasn't really I had a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>now down, but people weren't ready at that point to

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<v Speaker 2>concede that their government was involved in child trafficking or

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<v Speaker 2>covering up child trafficking. And I'd gotten a heavy dose

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<v Speaker 2>of cognitive dissonance when I was pitching it in New

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<v Speaker 2>York to various magazine editors and I after a while,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see the wheels start to turn and they

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<v Speaker 2>would think, this is a horrible story, and I need

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<v Speaker 2>to help Nick Bryan or I can write Nick Brian

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<v Speaker 2>off as crazy and I can have a nice dinner

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<v Speaker 2>with my family tonight. And I also had some friends

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<v Speaker 2>that were big shots in publishing, and nobody was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to help me. A good friend of mine, I'm from Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 2>and a good friend of mine from Minneapolis that I

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<v Speaker 2>had done for decades had his own column in the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times, and he was completely unwilling to help me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started to look at Epstein in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretty devastated that I'd spent seven years on

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<v Speaker 2>a book and we really couldn't get many people to

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<v Speaker 2>buy it. It was all over the Internet. But I

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<v Speaker 2>found out that people liked the internet version of the

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<v Speaker 2>book rather than the factual version of the story, because

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<v Speaker 2>it had bounced around with on the Internet for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and it had been conjoined with reptilians, Repelian

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<v Speaker 2>shape shifting ets, and the Illuminati and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So and then Wikipedia did a number on it and

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<v Speaker 2>locked that page down and no one could touch touch it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was pretty disillusioned. But I saw that Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein had molested various girls at that point. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a long pedophile. And there was a grand jury that

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<v Speaker 2>came out and said he had molested a single child.

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<v Speaker 2>So and that same thing happened in Nebraska. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a grand jury that came out and said that not

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<v Speaker 2>a single child but had been molested by the Franklin

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<v Speaker 2>trapping network. And there was a stake rngeury and federal

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<v Speaker 2>gran jury. So I went down to Florida and I

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<v Speaker 2>just I felt like I had to look into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that point I did acquire the Black Book.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Black Book, in addition to having a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of perpetrators, it has over one hundred victims. And I

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<v Speaker 2>started to call the victims and they were telling me

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<v Speaker 2>about being flown around and flown to an island and again.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point and twenty twelve, Jeffrey Epstein was just

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<v Speaker 2>a long pedophile. So I took the Black Book back

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<v Speaker 2>to New York and I pitched it and no one

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to touch it, and Actually I almost gave up

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and then I met John Cook, who was

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<v Speaker 2>the editor in chief of Gonker at that point, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said they'd be willing to do it. And at

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<v Speaker 2>that point we put up the Black Book. And in

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<v Speaker 2>the interim I had acquired a number of flight logs too,

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<v Speaker 2>so we put those up. So I was the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that put up the Black Book and the flight longs.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. Yeah, and it's it's just a who's who of

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<v Speaker 1>elite important people. Probably probably I'm assuming you saw some

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<v Speaker 1>overlap between Epstein and Franklin, because it may have been

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<v Speaker 1>centered at Franklin. But those kids' testimonies Bonacci and Boner,

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Boner was another one. They were being moved around.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, They were flown around. Yes. And a major common denominator,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a number of common denominators, like grand

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<v Speaker 2>juries that have been corrupted and federal law enforcement that

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<v Speaker 2>has clamped down on anybody trying to tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>But a major common denominator was William Barr. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the attorney general under Bush, one who covered up the

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin network. Thornburg was the attorney general before Barr, and

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<v Speaker 2>he initiated the cover up but then Barr kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put the finishing touches on the cover up. And Barr

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<v Speaker 2>was the attorney general for Trump one administration, who also

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<v Speaker 2>covered up by Epstein. So and you can see how

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<v Speaker 2>these guys get recycled, how these dirty players get recycled.

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<v Speaker 1>He also lied. I think he's proven lied about Epstein's

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<v Speaker 1>death in jail because he made some statement that said

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<v Speaker 1>like he had seen in there, But people who've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the jail said that it's contradicted, it's not the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my understanding. Yeah, I mean, William Barr has been

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<v Speaker 2>with the CIA forever and it's even on his Wikipedia page.

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<v Speaker 2>That means you can't really dispute it. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>look into William Barr, I'm not going to get into

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<v Speaker 2>his background, but if you look into William Barr's background,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a very very dirty guy. He's covered up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of major criminal activity by branches of our government.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, right, so Barr cover ups, grand jury cover ups,

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein cover ups, right, even going back to Acosta and

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<v Speaker 1>like you know these like Sweetheart deal all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand and eight, right, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually the first one was in two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and five, the neutron that went end

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<v Speaker 2>of the plutonium. Here is a fourteen year old girl

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<v Speaker 2>told her stepmother that she had been molested by Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 2>and her stepmother brought her to the Palm Beach Police department.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that point, the Palm Beach police just looked

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<v Speaker 2>upon Epstein as a very wealthy, philanthropic type. They did

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<v Speaker 2>not know about his dark side. And the girl described

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<v Speaker 2>the interior of his home and also his anatomy, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was They believed her, and just the details that

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<v Speaker 2>she was able to remember, and then she said who

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<v Speaker 2>recruited her? And the Palmage Police Department ultimately found that person,

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<v Speaker 2>and she just opened up very quickly, and she had

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<v Speaker 2>gone to the same high school and she was recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>girls from high school she had graduated at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>and she had there were like eight girls that she

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<v Speaker 2>had recruited. And then the Palmage Police Department ultimately found

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three victims that had been recruited, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>ready to arrest Jeffrey Epstein. Actually, I've got the warrant

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<v Speaker 2>for his arrest. They were going to arrest him. They

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<v Speaker 2>had the statements of five victims, and then they had

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<v Speaker 2>the corroborating statements of seventeen people. So they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to arrest him on four CONTs of unlawful sexual activity

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<v Speaker 2>with a minor and one kind of loot and lascivious molestation.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that case got taken away from them and

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<v Speaker 2>given to a grand jury. And usually grand juries are

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<v Speaker 2>that grand jury was dirty. It's I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>your audience is familiar with how easy it is to

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<v Speaker 2>corrupt a grand jury. But a special prosecutor has chosen

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<v Speaker 2>and he or she presents the evidence that are shown

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<v Speaker 2>to the grandeurs and calls the witnesses that the grandeur

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<v Speaker 2>have shown up for grand jury duty, so a special prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that quip by a former New York Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>over grandeurs that they could get them to in dyet

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<v Speaker 2>a ham Sandwich. And the special prosecutor in the Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>case only called two Epstein victims and one was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>which was messed by Epstein. She was now sixteen. And

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<v Speaker 2>one was sixteen when she was molested by Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times, and she was now eighteen. And that special

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor skewered those girls, skewered them, and at one point

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<v Speaker 2>she's calling them prostitutes. I mean, and here's very fragile fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen year old kid that had been molested by Epstein,

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<v Speaker 2>which it was fourteen, and the grand jury came back

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<v Speaker 2>that Epstein hadn't lasted a single child. That's where my

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<v Speaker 2>kind of my radar zoned in on Epstein when I

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<v Speaker 2>was reading about it. And Michael Ryder, he is the

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<v Speaker 2>hero in this story. He was the chief of the

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<v Speaker 2>Palmage Police Department and he would not back down. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was threatened, he was followed, he ate a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of intimidation, but he wouldn't back down. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>justice in modern times, something to that effect. And he

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Department of Justice and he said, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have got to dig into this store and investigate

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<v Speaker 2>it because all these girls were realizted. So the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Justice started digging into it. And actually at that point, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a list initially of thirty four underaged girls

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<v Speaker 2>that have been molested by Jeffrey Epstein, but they knew

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<v Speaker 2>of forty. And all of a sudden there was radio

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<v Speaker 2>silence from the Department of Justice. And what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on was Epstein's lawyers, which included Elandrshowitz and kim By

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<v Speaker 2>and Roy left Court or Roy Black, and there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a star was Starrup was one of them men. They

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<v Speaker 2>were cooking up a very very very dirty deal. And

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<v Speaker 2>what ultimately happened was and I've got the emails between

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<v Speaker 2>the assistant US Attorney and Jay Lefkowitz, who was one

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<v Speaker 2>of Epstein's attorneys, and they're negotiating this dirty deal, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've concluded the dirty deal. And the assistant US attorney says,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one justice that will sign off on this of

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<v Speaker 2>all the judges and magistrates, I said, said magistrate that

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<v Speaker 2>will sign off on it. Of all the judges of magistrates,

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<v Speaker 2>she knew of one that was corrupt or gullible or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that would sign it. And he signed it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the Feds sealed it, and attorneys representing the victims

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<v Speaker 2>and also the Palm Beach Post appealed the ceiling, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Palm Beach Police judge or the Pumbach County Judge,

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<v Speaker 2>Kenneth Merra, said that it should be unsealed, and the FEDS,

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice appealed that, and then it went

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<v Speaker 2>to the Eleventh Circuit, and then the Eleventh Circuits said

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<v Speaker 2>it should be unsealed. And what we saw there is

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<v Speaker 2>mind boggling. That document gave blanket immunity to all the

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<v Speaker 2>perpetrators of Ebstein. All the perpetrators got blanket immunity. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's the Victim Crimes Right Act, and according to that law,

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<v Speaker 2>victims of crimes have to be apprized of the adjudication

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<v Speaker 2>of their perpetrators and also they get to confront their perpetrators.

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<v Speaker 2>But the FEDS had completely trampled disavowed that law. They

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<v Speaker 2>did not give any of Epstein's victims, They did not

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<v Speaker 2>apprize any Ebstein victims of the Dirty Deal, and no

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<v Speaker 2>Ebstein victims were able to confront Epstein. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>what the Department of Justice did. And Alexander Costa was

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<v Speaker 2>the US Attorney for the Southern Florida, so he was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that oversaw it, and he was also Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>first Labor secretary, and when he was getting vetted by

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration, he said he was asked why he

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<v Speaker 2>went so light on Epstein, and he said, I was

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<v Speaker 2>told Epstein was intelligence and it was above my pay

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<v Speaker 2>grade and to stand down. And I did a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of research on this, talk to some legal scholars. According

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<v Speaker 2>to these legal scholars, there's only two people in the

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<v Speaker 2>government that can tell a US attorney to stand down.

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<v Speaker 2>One is the Attorney General and one is the president.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was in two thousand and seven. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General was Alberto Gonzalez and the president was George Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>The second the cognitively challenged George Bush. And I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine and attorney general covering up a nationwide pedophon network

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<v Speaker 2>without his boss giving him the okay. So I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that Epstein's pedophon network in two thousand and seven was

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<v Speaker 2>covered up from the zenith of power in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing, I mean, and it was happening. And there

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<v Speaker 1>were intimidations of the girls back then too. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think I remember seeing it in the court

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<v Speaker 1>files that they got the black you know, SUV treatment yea.

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<v Speaker 1>They got all their information off of one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the social media media. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they really did a number on them, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that they were morally culpable or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, and that they were druggies. And I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>the same old story. Yet we saw it in the

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin Scanner, we've seen it at other places. It's killed

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<v Speaker 2>the messenger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but it was all the it's the scale

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<v Speaker 1>of it was really incredible, Like they systematically intimidated all

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<v Speaker 1>these kids. I mean, God forbid they would come forward,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're afraid of coming forward, and then that happens somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of similar happened back in twenty seventeen or eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>with Glen Maxwell too, because there was there was some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things happening with Gifrey and some other people. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all this stuff happened. It could have been stopped, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nipped back in the two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, but it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have been nipped in two thousand and five had

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<v Speaker 2>the Palm Beach Police been able to arrest Jeffrey Ebstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And there was another wasn't there There were some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mysterious deaths around Franklin. And I think Terridori

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy's name around Franklin.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Carridori was the Senate Subcommittee investigator who's playing blew up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he'd flown to Chicago, right, was flowing back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he flown in Chicago and he'd got he'd met

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<v Speaker 2>with a blackmail photographer and he had got some photos,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was flying back to Lincoln, Nebraska with those photos,

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<v Speaker 2>and then his plane blew.

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<v Speaker 1>Up with his son too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that evidence was with his son, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>his seven year old.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I know a lot, I've had Temptat on

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<v Speaker 1>my show two or three times, and he was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who did Conspiracy of Silence. Yeah, so he got

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<v Speaker 1>those kids on film, or Bonacci and Troy Boner and

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<v Speaker 1>so of these other girls whose name I can't remember now,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least you could see their faces, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can remember them. They're not just somebody in writing or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But I think one of the cops

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<v Speaker 1>from PAULM. Beach he died young too, like at fifty year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the detectives, Racerrey Cary, died of a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that's at fifty three, Yeah, pretty young.

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<v Speaker 1>So then did they know at that time or did

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<v Speaker 1>you see how vast like Epstein's network was. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we know now people have researched it. It's New Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>to Virgin Islands, to Miami, to New York and internationally

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<v Speaker 1>actually here.

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<v Speaker 2>And also London in Paris?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, was there an awareness of that that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>international scope back in two thousand and seven, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight or two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>The Palmies police weren't aware of it, but I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that the FBI and the FEDS were certainly aware of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened there was just really an abomination because

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Ebstein was able to go on molesting children and

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<v Speaker 2>providing children to be molested for another eleven years. And

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<v Speaker 2>that blood is on the government's hands, sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was kind of industrial scare scale. You met

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<v Speaker 1>that the girls were encouraged to find other girls, almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a multi marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>Scheme that that happened in the Franklin scannal too. You

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<v Speaker 2>get the victims to scavenge and then they get two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars or three hundred dollars. Wow, per victim that

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<v Speaker 2>they bring back.

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<v Speaker 1>Was but the Franklin was boys and girls. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like Epstein was almost only teen girls. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Franklin was mostly boys, some girls, and Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>was mostly young girls. But there's accounts of girls being

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<v Speaker 2>younger than ten years old that he trafficked. And and

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<v Speaker 2>King liked of the Franklin network. He liked pubescent boys.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you wanted a seven year old or an

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<v Speaker 2>eight year old, he'd provide you with a seven year

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<v Speaker 2>old or an eight year old. That's these guys are psychopaths.

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<v Speaker 2>They're panttering these children to psychopaths. I mean, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry a conscience isn't going to impede what

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<v Speaker 2>they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible, it's incredible, and it's still I mean, like everything

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in twenty eighteen. There was the raid on

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<v Speaker 1>the mansion in New York City and they found evidence

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<v Speaker 1>like containers or something in there. They're conveniently for god,

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<v Speaker 1>like where those tapes went or I thought there were

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<v Speaker 1>tapes that had the FBI marker on them. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>recall that at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, the day after Jeffrey Epstein was arrested in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen at Teeterborough report, the FBI opened up his safe. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>his safe wasn't didn't have the dimensions that one thinks

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<v Speaker 2>of when they think of a safe. I mean, his

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<v Speaker 2>safe was the size of a closet. And according to

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times, there were hundreds, if not thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>of images of child abuse material and there were many,

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<v Speaker 2>many discs, and also Business Inside reported that there were

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<v Speaker 2>hard drives too, And there was a strange document that

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<v Speaker 2>was released by the Department of Justice and the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>last week. And there is a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with. I agree with there were more than

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred kilobyte gigabytes of child abuse material, and I

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<v Speaker 2>also agree that there's over a thousand victims. But then

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of loses me. Then it says that Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>didn't pander any children to anybody, and that there was

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<v Speaker 2>no blackmail, And I know that Epstein was pandering children

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<v Speaker 2>to all kinds of guys, and I know that all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of guys are written blackmail too. That's why no

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<v Speaker 2>one has gone down for this other than Epstein and Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, I mean, it's just incredible, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>your Giuffray rest in peace. Virginia Giuffrey, Virginia Roberts. She

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<v Speaker 1>had her own bio or she wrote an autobiography. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't know. It's in the Elaine Maxwell documents.

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<v Speaker 1>I read it and she said she was in that

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<v Speaker 1>mansion and they had a separate monitoring room. They literally

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<v Speaker 1>had like a studio for like filming stuff in that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually that all the bedrooms and bathrooms and his

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<v Speaker 2>New York home were equipped with hidden cameras. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin scandal. There was a huge house in Washington, DC

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<v Speaker 2>that was equipped for audiagi of blackmail, and according to

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of victims, there was a room where men

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<v Speaker 2>as in plural, monitored those cameras. So right there, you've

418
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 2>got a conspiracy, Like where.

419
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Are those employees? And what else has happened? What's happening

420
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>on the island.

421
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 2>And when the Department of Justice made that dirty deal

422
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.599
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and seven named co conspirators of Ebstein,

423
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>But now there's no co conspirators. I mean Epstein just

424
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>flew to that island by himself and had Martiniz and

425
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 2>then flew home. I mean, the whole thing is so ridiculous,

426
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and we see how Pam Bondi and the Trump administration

427
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>have just dug a hole deeper and deeper. On February

428
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty six, Bondie said that the Epstein files and now

429
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>the Epstein files in the Epstein lists have been used synonymously,

430
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>were on her desk and that she was going to

431
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>release them, and then she released them, and it was

432
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 2>like a nothing sandwich. When I released the Black Book

433
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>with Hawker, we put up, we blacked out, redacted the

434
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>phone numbers of the adults that were in the book,

435
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>and then we redacted the last names and phone numbers

436
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 2>of the victims. And I saw that book, that the

437
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Black Book that I put up, and the FEDS have

438
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>redacted everything. Right, it was a.

439
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Non release, right, it wasn't likely released that you had

440
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>already released.

441
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 2>So I well, actually I put out more incriminating information

442
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>on Epstein in twenty fifteen than they did in twenty

443
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. But here's Bondi just keeps getting herself into trouble,

444
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>so there's no new revelations. And then Bondie declares that

445
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>she's been bambuzled by the fbised Field Office. So either

446
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>she lied about what she was releasing or she was inept,

447
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a charitable person, so I'm gonna go with inept.

448
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 2>And then she further turnished her credibility. Well, she said

449
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>that there was quote a truck fload of evidence unquote,

450
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and she said that only matters related to the national

451
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 2>security would be redacted from the documents. So now she

452
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>has to tell us what a bunch of child molesters

453
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>have to do with national security. And here's the freshando

454
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 2>of her, of her mendacity. This is a quote from her.

455
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<v Speaker 2>There are tens of thousands of Epstein, tens of thousands

456
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 2>of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, and

457
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>there are hundreds of victims. So she acted like the

458
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>FBI was just looking at that material for the first

459
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>time when it had opened up Epstein's safe in twenty nineteen.

460
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>And there's no way that the FBI and the dark,

461
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>malignant corner of intelligence that deploy people like Epstein, we're

462
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>looking at that stuff that night. I mean, they probably

463
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>were looking at it that day and guys were doing

464
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>double shifts to make sure but to see what was

465
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 2>on that footage. So that so for her to say

466
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 2>that the Department of Justice I was just looking at

467
00:30:53.799 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>it in twenty five was absolute shit. And for Trump.

468
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>For Trump to come out and say it was the Democrats,

469
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, now he's digging himself a deeper hole because

470
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it was a butcher Gonzales and George Bush too that

471
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>covered it all up and talked about co conspirators. So

472
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the the cover up started under Republicans, right, not not

473
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>not Democrats, And.

474
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>That was under his administration is when he was arrested

475
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>in Tearbor, right, So it was Trump.

476
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Under Trump's administration. Yeah, exactly.

477
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh, it's a terrible It's going to be

478
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a slow rolling catastrophe for him because there's so much

479
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 1>evidence and the evidence that you've procured, you know, this black.

480
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>How can he say? I? Okay? Sat I said that

481
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple of things I agreed with on

482
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>that strange memo that came from the FBI Department of Justice,

483
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>which nobody signed. No one was going to take the

484
00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>fall for that MAMO, which which kind of is human

485
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>in a dark kind of way. But it said that

486
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 2>there were over three hundred gigabytes. I agree with that,

487
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>said that there were over a thousand victims. I agree

488
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 2>with that. But then it says that These victims weren't

489
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 2>pantered anybody. Now we know better than that. And the

490
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>best thing that you can say to a victim of

491
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>child sexual abuse or sexual assault is I believe you.

492
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>The worst thing you can say is I don't believe you.

493
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>So that document that was released last week is saying

494
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe you to scores and scores of young girls.

495
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's really malignant.

496
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>What.

497
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that memo is saying that these girls don't

498
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 2>even exist, and that's that's unbelievably malignant.

499
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really is. You know, you mentioned the VCR

500
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and that they were allowed. These victims came out in

501
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>their statements in court after gillne Maxwell. So I actually

502
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 1>posted on my podcast. It took two hours to read

503
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it because this was their chance. Then there were twenty

504
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>four girls who took the chance. Twenty four probably maybe more,

505
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 1>many more, but they actually wanted to tell their stories.

506
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's on the record, the victims stories.

507
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Maxwell's trial was a sham because there were only four

508
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>witnesses that testified, and those four witnesses had only been

509
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>molested by Epstein and Maxwell. They hadn't been molested by

510
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>any other perpetrators. And what I found to be very

511
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 2>interesting is Damian Williams, who was the US attorney for

512
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 2>the Sun District. He oversaw the Maxwell trial and which

513
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>was very carefully choreographed because there could have been a

514
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff that came out at that Maxwell trial.

515
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>And then he was also the guy that oversaw the

516
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 2>grand jury beyond Diddy. And at that point did he

517
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>had five civil suits penning against him, and two of

518
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>them had been miners. He had trafficked two girls as miners.

519
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 2>And the fifth lawsuit was from Little Roder Rodney Jones.

520
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 2>He was a hip hop producer and in his lawsuit

521
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 2>documentation he talks about did he trafficking children quite a bit,

522
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 2>and then he also talks about hidden cameras. So at

523
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 2>that point, Damian Williams decided in the Department of Justice

524
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and whoever else decided, well, we got to we got

525
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to ring the Diddy thing in. And what they did

526
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>with that did he truck? I mean, I've never seen

527
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>prosecutors work so hard to throw a case by my life.

528
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>He only had two convictions out of just massive criminal

529
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>drugs and trafficking and of the Man Act.

530
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Of the Man Act, I mean, I mean, you and

531
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any illegal training, but I think that

532
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you and I could have actually waged a much more

533
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 2>vigorous defense than the assistant US attorneys. And one was

534
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Marine Komi, and she had also her father was head

535
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 2>of the FBI, and she had been instrumental in covering

536
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>up the Epstein trial. And she'd also been very instrumental

537
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 2>and covering up Ditty's crimes. Also.

538
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just incredible. So Franklin to Epstein to Ditty, these

539
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>huge trafficking, blackmail, it goes on. And then you wrote

540
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 1>a book also about what's going like the Madams in DC.

541
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Like Confessions of Dac madd in Politics of Sex Lives

542
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 2>in Blackmail, which is just more of the same.

543
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, So who isn't blackmail? That's the question. It's not

544
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>who is, it's who. They probably just target everybody, don't

545
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you think they just target anybody with a pulse.

546
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I think if you can be blackmailed, you are I

547
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>think that there are people that aren't blackmailed. We started

548
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>an organization called the Epstein Justice and what we want

549
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>is very simple. We want the government to tell us

550
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 2>why it covered up child trafficking, and we want the

551
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>perpetrators to be prosecuted, pretty simple, kind of a baseline morality.

552
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 2>It's going to require a majority in the Senate, in

553
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the House, and we are starting a campaign. We've started

554
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a campaign of pressuring these lawmakers. And our next webinar

555
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>is on will we provide the tools to pressure the lawmakers?

556
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Is next next Tuesday night, July twenty second. So I

557
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>strongly suggest that your audience go to Epstein Justice dot

558
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>com and register for our next webinar because it's going

559
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 2>to take all of us. There's over three hundred and

560
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty million Americans, and if we can mobilize one third

561
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 2>of one percent, that's a million people. And we can

562
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>get things done with a million people. I believe that

563
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 2>we should be able to mobilize more. But as we've

564
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.880
<v Speaker 2>got to do is mobilize a third of one percent

565
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and we'll get it done.

566
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, And there's I mean, there's so much work

567
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that can be done. There's so many victims. Maybe you

568
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>haven't come forth, and a lot of this stuff like

569
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>go check it out.

570
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 2>There's there's well over a thousand victims. But only that

571
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>victims Compensation program. Only that was going to give victims

572
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>settlements from Epstein's estate. Two hundred and twenty five women

573
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 2>applied and one hundred and fifty were granted settlements and

574
00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>twelve declined because if you got a settlement from that program,

575
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 2>you signed an NDA and you couldn't go after any

576
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of your other perpetrators. Wow.

577
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

578
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>And I've been in this field for quite some time,

579
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and I've spoken at a lot of conferences, big conferences.

580
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>The National Center and Sexual Expectation holds it like a

581
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>world summit every year, and I've spoken at three of those.

582
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>The Society for the Study of Traman Association as an

583
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 2>international meeting where I've spoken at one of those, and

584
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I've all spoken at one of the Webers. I've spoken

585
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>at a number of conferences, and I've gotten to meet

586
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 2>psychiatrists and psychologists that work for that worked with sexual

587
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>abuse victims child sexual abuse victims. And one of them

588
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>called me. This was a couple of years ago, and

589
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>she had a client who she felt had been trafficked

590
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>by Epstein when she was under ten years old. And

591
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the woman could describe the terrier of Epstein's home and

592
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>some other things that would have been impossible for her

593
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 2>to know. And then I know a second therapist who

594
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>worked with a victim who said that she'd been traffied

595
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>by Ebstein when she was under ten years old. Now,

596
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 2>both those therapists tried to get settlements for their victims,

597
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>because when you're traffic at that young of an age,

598
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, your life gets decimated. And they were denied,

599
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and we have there's no criteria of who gets what

600
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>from those settlements. But both those therapists thought that there

601
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>are clients were denied because of they were they didn't

602
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>fit the cover story of fourteen years that that seems

603
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 2>to be what the media is settled on is that

604
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the youngest Epstein victims were fourteen years old.

605
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you don't hear about any of those younger kids.

606
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Nut at least, I mean it's weird too. Like did

607
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>giufray biography, she said that she had to sit down

608
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>with Glaine and Jeffery and they said they wanted her

609
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 1>to have a baby. Yeah, they would just take the

610
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 1>infant like God only knows what would have happened to

611
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>that infant. But like this is dark stuff. They were

612
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>involved in very evil, very dark stuff. And some of

613
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the kids were a traffic from South America that we

614
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>don't even never.

615
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Know or well, a lot of I mean a lot

616
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>of the kids were traffic from Eastern Europe and Jean

617
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Brunell and Epstein started a modeling agency called mc squad,

618
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and Burnell had been he's a bad actor, I mean

619
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>he'd been Actually sixteen minutes did a piece on him

620
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 2>because he was fond of drugging and molesting underage girls.

621
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>But he was actually buying, buying, not running, buying girls

622
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 2>in Eastern Europe to bring back here. And according to

623
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Goo Free, they had something worked out with the

624
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>government where they were able to get visas or passports

625
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>or something for these underage girls that were that they

626
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.440
<v Speaker 2>were bringing into the United States.

627
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<v Speaker 1>Probably some corrupt deal. I mean it's really incredible. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it really was a network. I just ran a

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<v Speaker 1>video of Geffrey talking about how everybody knew, from the

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<v Speaker 1>doorman to the chauffeur, to the haircutters, to the doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>to the lawyers. So there's a lot more information that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to come out. It's not going away. What number

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<v Speaker 1>of our politicians are blackmailed, you know, which ones aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to make independent decisions or decisions based upon the

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<v Speaker 1>best interests of their constituents, So like this is all

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<v Speaker 1>vitally important.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we have an opportunity right now

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<v Speaker 2>and we might not ever have this again, to clean

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<v Speaker 2>out our government. Yeah, I think we have that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>But not only do we need to clean out our government,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's another major reason why this has to be

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<v Speaker 2>resolved with justice. According to the Centers for Disease Control,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent of underage girls and five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>underage boys in the United States have been molested. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in the field will say that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably slightly conservative for underage girls and way conservative for

647
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<v Speaker 2>underaged boys. But if you just go with the CDC numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>there's over fifty million Americans who have been molested as miners,

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<v Speaker 2>over fifty million Americans. And the Department of Health and

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<v Speaker 2>Human Services commission to study I think a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and it found that between two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty thousand and three hundred and twenty five thousand women

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<v Speaker 2>and children were sexually trafficked in the United States every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's where it gets really really egregious. The twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three Federal Human Trafficking Report found that only six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty four individuals in the country were charged

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<v Speaker 2>with child trafficking. So if we go with the smallest

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<v Speaker 2>number from the Department of Health and Human Services, two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty thousand, and only six hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four individuals were charged with child sex trafficking. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there's millions of hours of child abuse material on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and according to the US Sensing Commission, only one thy

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and seventy five people in the US were

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<v Speaker 2>convicted of making and disseminating child abuse material. So there

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<v Speaker 2>are millions of victims of abuse and trafficking in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, millions. And this is another reason why Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>justice is very important, is because if we allow the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Justice to be unrespond to victims in the

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein case, a proven trafficking case, that sends a message

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<v Speaker 2>to millions of victims that they have no voice and

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<v Speaker 2>no hope for justice. And we have to send the

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<v Speaker 2>message that you there, you do have hope and you

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<v Speaker 2>can have a voice. And as long as the government

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<v Speaker 2>continues to lie about this, we're just negating these these

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<v Speaker 2>these children, negating them.

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<v Speaker 1>And distancentivizing them from coming forward to because if they

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<v Speaker 1>think there's no justice, like they're just going to get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. They're they're going to be wasting their time

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<v Speaker 1>or exposing themselves to uh reprisals or something. So this

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein has to be resolved. He has to get justice.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to get justice or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether well, well, the thing is with these networks, they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting kids generally young. A lot of them have been

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<v Speaker 2>molested previously, like Virginia Goufree had been molested when you seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she'd been pantered by a pedophile named Ron Eppinger.

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<v Speaker 2>But these networks, they get these kids that are already

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<v Speaker 2>very damaged, and then they get they under repeated molestations.

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<v Speaker 2>And then with the Franklin network, if you perform well,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd get drugs or alcohol or whatever you wanted. And

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<v Speaker 2>we see that there's a number of Epstein victims that

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<v Speaker 2>anesthetize themselves from that particular brutality, and they go on

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<v Speaker 2>to compromise their own credibility by a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>by committing various crimes. And which is almost a perfect system,

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<v Speaker 2>is you get these victims and then really damage them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they go on to commit crimes and compromise

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<v Speaker 2>their own credibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's like sustains itself through the abuse or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>the cycle of abuse or something comes back. Nick, we

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<v Speaker 1>are at the forty five minute more, is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you'd like to add? And where can people find?

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<v Speaker 1>We have Epstein Justice right here. I'll put a link

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Where can people find you and your books?

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<v Speaker 2>My Epstein Justice is by far more important to me

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<v Speaker 2>than selling books, So I would say go to Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>Justice first. If you want to take my books, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to take a look at my books and

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<v Speaker 2>read my blogs and the other things, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>Nick BRYANTANMYC dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick BRYANTNYC dot com. So there's another I'll put links

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<v Speaker 1>to that. So there's two websites. But your primary importance

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<v Speaker 1>right now is for people to check out Epstein Justice.

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<v Speaker 2>So people, I would much rather have people sign up

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<v Speaker 2>for Epstein Justice than buy my books to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a sign up kind of thing here here,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can put your name and your email.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you can register for these webinars that we hold.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as soon as you register, you'll get it

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<v Speaker 2>at email back and then I'll give you the steps

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<v Speaker 2>that you can take.

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<v Speaker 1>Right And the next one is going to be July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty second to twenty twenty five at eight pm Eastern,

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<v Speaker 1>So people check.

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<v Speaker 2>That out too, on Tuesday night at eight o'clin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, far away, just four days away from today. People

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. Check out the website and again the

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<v Speaker 1>author is Nick Bryant and goes back with Epstein all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the Black Book. Really incredible, like your

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<v Speaker 1>piece of like right there, it's very historically important events.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks William.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, stay there, stay there,