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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Tuesday edition of the show. And what
Speaker 2: a day it is. I'm here your host for the
Speaker 2: next three hours.
Speaker 4: Mandy Connell, joined, of course, by Anthony Rodriguez in his
Speaker 4: Darth Vader Christmas sweater? Is that an homage to the
Speaker 4: ill fated Star Wars Christmas Special that only aired once?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 6: That is?
Speaker 5: Uh, that's special.
Speaker 4: I would tell people that is say you were so
Speaker 4: moved by the Star Wars Christmas Special nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 4: that you had to adorn your sweater with the Dark Lords.
Speaker 3: The only thing I'm missing is the guyliner from Luke
Speaker 3: Skywalker and other cast members in that thing is woof Yeah,
Speaker 3: where's my Walks?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: If you've never seen If you've never seen the Star
Speaker 4: Wars Christmas Special, I believe it is available on YouTube.
Speaker 4: I think it is, yes, and it is as bad
Speaker 4: as you might think. It might be the worst thing
Speaker 4: that has ever been made. For television, and that says something.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The story of Chewy's family is heartwarming. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I can't do my Chewy noise, my vocal cords.
Speaker 3: The backstory of Chewy and the fam. You know, it's
Speaker 3: something we don't get in any.
Speaker 2: Other I know.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, Yes, it's certainly special is the word that
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 2: I would use for it special, as would they in
Speaker 2: the title special. We're going to take you right through
Speaker 2: three p m.
Speaker 4: And today is a very special day because it is
Speaker 4: Colorado Gives Day bio Yes, which is the day that
Speaker 4: we ask you.
Speaker 2: And we're not the only ones.
Speaker 4: First Bank puts together Colorado Gives Day every single year.
Speaker 4: It's an opportunity for smaller nonprofits to fundraise on a
Speaker 4: grander scale, and I have featured some of these nonprofits.
Speaker 4: I'll have three of them on the show today in
Speaker 4: the format of an interview, and then I have another
Speaker 4: list on the blog.
Speaker 2: So let's do that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have it on the list
Speaker 3: on the block, but if you don't, obviously mind I
Speaker 3: would always recommend Big Brother, Big Sisters for Colorado.
Speaker 2: Not put it on there. But I will go back
Speaker 2: and I will put it on. Yeah, I was trying to.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just gonna be perfectly frank. You guys what
Speaker 4: to sleep Last night at like eight o'clock. Woke up
Speaker 4: at three starving. I never wake up hungry. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm so hungry. I can eat my
Speaker 4: own arm. I've got the jet lag something fierce right now,
Speaker 4: and I'm just trying. I'm having coffee right now, Anthony,
Speaker 4: I have coffee.
Speaker 2: Food, just food.
Speaker 4: I didn't really eat yesterday. I mean I barely ate
Speaker 4: yesterday because I was just not hungry, so I didn't
Speaker 4: really eat. And then I woke up this morning I
Speaker 4: was starving, because yes, I did grambled eggs and.
Speaker 2: Half an avocado at three one at three thirty.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, Actually no, I stayed in bed till like four,
Speaker 4: so it was four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: There I got.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I'm officially back on the plan next week,
Speaker 4: so hey, I mean, I'm eating kind of the same stuff,
Speaker 4: hence the two scrambled eggs and a quarter of an avocado,
Speaker 4: you know, but I'm not officially back on the plan
Speaker 4: until next week, so I'm a little bit jet lag.
Speaker 4: So if I stopped making sense at some point. I
Speaker 4: haven't had a stroke, but I might just fall asleep
Speaker 4: on on the air today. That's never happened to me.
Speaker 4: But hopefully you won't fall asleep listening. Here's what's on
Speaker 4: the blog. You can find it by going to mandy'sblog
Speaker 4: dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com.
Speaker 2: Look for the headline that says.
Speaker 4: Twelve ten, twenty four blog It's Colorado Gives Day. Click
Speaker 4: on that and here are the headlines you will find within.
Speaker 5: What if you know something doesn't crash on me? Which
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 2: Office half of American all with ships and clippers, and say,
Speaker 2: that's kind of press plant today on the blog, it's
Speaker 2: Colorado Gives Day, step Denver Children's Diabetes Foundation, the other
Speaker 2: side Academy. But I've got a few more options for you.
Speaker 2: Independence Institute, the Steamboat Institute, Colorado Veterans Project, Come Back Yoga,
Speaker 2: Motorcycle Relief Project, and of course Big Brothers, Big sisters.
Speaker 2: It's time to end the Vacancee Committee nonsense. We are
Speaker 2: now funding medicaid for illegal immigrants. Want to learn how
Speaker 2: badly Syria is screwed?
Speaker 4: Scurolling, squirrelling, congrats to see you's Travis Hunter, who is
Speaker 4: watching Where the Money is Going? Merry Christmas for Mike Rosen.
Speaker 4: Mass transit in Denver is failing, ladies. This one is
Speaker 4: for US government sucks at building things. I ugly cried
Speaker 4: on this one. The kiffness and a gay kiddy more
Speaker 4: life advice for old people.
Speaker 2: This may be my sport? How did we not notice
Speaker 2: this before?
Speaker 4: Those are the headlines on the blog at Mandy's blog
Speaker 4: dot com. And I have some really really, really really
Speaker 4: good videos on the blog today, not the least of
Speaker 4: which is a sport that a Rod sent me this
Speaker 4: morning that I feel like this could be my jam Anthony,
Speaker 4: if I'd only known about.
Speaker 2: Disco foot when I was.
Speaker 4: Young and enthusiastic about such things. Apparently, and I don't
Speaker 4: know where this sport takes place, but he imagine this,
Speaker 4: and you can go watch this on the blog today.
Speaker 4: Imagine a soccer match taking place, but throughout the entire
Speaker 4: soccer match, you must continue to dance during the soccer match,
Speaker 4: and at the end of the match you are judged
Speaker 4: not only on how many goals you scored, but also
Speaker 4: the quality of your dats.
Speaker 3: Apparently a part of it, at least was a TV
Speaker 3: program in Sweden.
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 4: I would pay money to go watch this, that's how
Speaker 4: much I loved it. And then seriously, like, we should
Speaker 4: get a disco foot team together.
Speaker 2: What would our name be, I mean, the fancy dancers.
Speaker 2: What would our name be? Fancy footers? Bam, there you go,
Speaker 2: were the fancy footers. But it's a thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a thing, and so there you go. You should
Speaker 2: do this. Go watch that on the blog today.
Speaker 4: I've got a Kiffness video with a little kitty who's gay.
Speaker 4: It came out to the world this little kitty, and
Speaker 4: Kifness made a song about it. I hope he was
Speaker 4: ready a kitty. By the way, I also.
Speaker 2: Have a video that we're going to talk about a
Speaker 2: little bit later.
Speaker 4: Ben Shapiro did a great It's about twenty four minutes long.
Speaker 4: He did a really really good explainer on how all
Speaker 4: the factions in Syria come together, including with maps and
Speaker 4: graphs and everything else. And I started watching it this
Speaker 4: morning at three thirty at four o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: when I.
Speaker 2: Was eating my breakfast and I was just gonna watch
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. I ended up watching the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Because it was so useful and I knew part of this,
Speaker 4: but I didn't know all of it. And what's happening
Speaker 4: in Syria. The fall of Asad in Syria could and
Speaker 4: there's a big could there could have incredibly powerful ramifications
Speaker 4: for the entire Middle East region because Iran, who is
Speaker 4: the big state sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East,
Speaker 4: has been significantly weakened because of Israel taking out Hesbula's
Speaker 4: leadership and degrading Hamas to the point where there's so
Speaker 4: few Hamas members left that you know, it's almost comical.
Speaker 4: They were the proxies that Iran used to foment terror
Speaker 4: in attack Israel and try to destroy the Jewish state.
Speaker 4: So they've been wildly degraded because of that. Right now,
Speaker 4: the Houthis are still powerful. They're in Yemen and they're
Speaker 4: still powerful. They're the last proxy that Iran had but
Speaker 4: Iran and Syria, aside was allied with Iran. So Syria
Speaker 4: is incredibly important in moving Iranian weapons to other places
Speaker 4: like Lebanon.
Speaker 2: So Ben Shapiro does an amazing job.
Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, like I could try to
Speaker 4: explain this, but I don't have the graphs in the
Speaker 4: maps and if you're not familiar with the way that
Speaker 4: region is structured, if you're I'm not super familiar with
Speaker 4: the map of the Middle East and how it all
Speaker 4: goes together. Cannot recommend this video highly enough because it
Speaker 4: is very very good at explaining how all of the
Speaker 4: pieces go together. And we are going to talk about
Speaker 4: this later because the Trump administration coming into power is
Speaker 4: going to have to deal with this, right, It is
Speaker 4: not going to just go away, and Aroan knows this,
Speaker 4: and Ronan also knows that, unlike the Obama administration and
Speaker 4: its extension, the Biden administration, Donald Trump is not in
Speaker 4: a mood to give them one hundred and fifty billion
Speaker 4: dollars for a hollow promise that they won't develop nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: It's a whole new game for them, a whole new game,
Speaker 4: and so it's a fact that is going to be
Speaker 4: a big deal. What's happening right now is a big deal.
Speaker 4: So we're going to talk about that more a little
Speaker 4: bit later. But watch that video when you have chance,
Speaker 4: if you just want to educate yourself about how all
Speaker 4: the players fit together and how the different factions are
Speaker 4: going to be fomenting.
Speaker 2: Issues in that in that area. So today is Colorado
Speaker 2: Gives Day. This is a big day for Colorado in
Speaker 2: that Colorado Gives. The Colorado Gives Foundation has this big
Speaker 2: day today and they offer a match for monthly donors.
Speaker 4: If you set up a new recurring monthly donation on
Speaker 4: Colorado Gives, Colorado Gives Foundation will match your first month's
Speaker 4: gift dollar for dollar up to one hundred bucks. These
Speaker 4: are these are really great ways to get charities money
Speaker 4: that they desperately need.
Speaker 2: So that that is the first part of this.
Speaker 4: But I know it's hard to figure out sometimes if
Speaker 4: you're not aligned with a certain charitable organization. If you're
Speaker 4: like me, this is how I view charitable giving. I
Speaker 4: want to make sure that the money is being spent
Speaker 4: on services that is incredibly important to me. I don't
Speaker 4: want to give money to a charity that spends more
Speaker 4: on overhead than they do delivering on what they are
Speaker 4: supposed to deliver on. That is very important to me.
Speaker 4: I also prefer to donate to hand up charities instead
Speaker 4: of hand out charities. Now, don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 4: donate to the Parker Food Bank. You know, those are
Speaker 4: very specific literally a handout charity. But I want to
Speaker 4: support organizations who are invested in helping people become the
Speaker 4: best people that they can be, and that's how I
Speaker 4: choose my charitable donation.
Speaker 2: So I thought I would just make it easy for
Speaker 2: you guys by giving you a list of my faves. Aron.
Speaker 4: If you want to go on the blog, you can
Speaker 4: add Big Brothers, Big Sisters. Just get the link from
Speaker 4: Colorado gives dot org and put it on there.
Speaker 2: To make it easy for people.
Speaker 4: I've got three of my favorite nonprofit organizations on today.
Speaker 4: The first is step Denver. We're going to talk to
Speaker 4: them at twelve thirty. If you've listened to this show
Speaker 4: for any length of time, you know about the incredible,
Speaker 4: great work that they do. And then a little bit
Speaker 4: later we're going to talk to Dana Davis from the
Speaker 4: Children's Diabetes Foundation.
Speaker 2: This is a wonderful.
Speaker 4: We're so lucky to have the Barbara Davis Center here
Speaker 4: in Colorado to help people young people living with type
Speaker 4: one diabetes and helping their families with education.
Speaker 2: They help with research, they do.
Speaker 4: All this amazing stuff to stop type two type one diabetes.
Speaker 4: Type one is different than type two. And we're going
Speaker 4: to have Dana back on the show today to talk
Speaker 4: about that, and then a little bit later, I've never
Speaker 4: done this before what we're doing today. The Other Side
Speaker 4: Academy is an organization that is very similar to Step Denver,
Speaker 4: but slightly different, And I'm having two organizations with a
Speaker 4: similar mission on today for this reason. Both of them
Speaker 4: are helping people who have really messed up their lives
Speaker 4: because of addiction, really just.
Speaker 2: Messed up their lives.
Speaker 4: And they are both incredibly value programs at this time,
Speaker 4: especially because if you look around the streets of Denver,
Speaker 4: you see a lot of people who need their help.
Speaker 4: So I've never done this before, but I'm later on
Speaker 4: in the show, we're going to talk to the Other
Speaker 4: Side Academy because both of these organizations are worth your investment.
Speaker 4: And I say investment because we sit here on the
Speaker 4: show and we talk a lot about homelessness and addiction
Speaker 4: and all of these things. These two organizations are helping
Speaker 4: people in a way that matters, that is important, and
Speaker 4: is helping save their lives, and not just save their lives,
Speaker 4: but they're coming out of these programs with dignity and
Speaker 4: they're self respect back, and that to me is an
Speaker 4: invaluable gift to give to someone who's willing to work
Speaker 4: for it, and so we're going to talk to the
Speaker 4: other side a little bit later. But I also have
Speaker 4: some other options that I want to roll through real quick.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Several of them are politically based, but.
Speaker 4: They are doing really incredibly important work, both in their
Speaker 4: own ways.
Speaker 2: The first is the Independence Institute.
Speaker 4: John Caldera and his team at the Independence Institute, they
Speaker 4: are they're doing stuff that is so incredibly valuable for
Speaker 4: you as of Coloradin.
Speaker 2: They are the reason we've had two.
Speaker 4: Income tax cuts, regardless of what the governor tries to say. Now,
Speaker 4: the Independence Institute is why we've cut income tax twice.
Speaker 4: The Independence Institute is the one who is always fighting
Speaker 4: to make Colorado more free and more fair. Not fair
Speaker 4: in the sense that everybody has equal outcomes, but everybody
Speaker 4: has equal opportunity. And they run a very tight ship
Speaker 4: at the Independence Institute.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing.
Speaker 4: I want to make sure money is spent wisely. And
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I tease John because John is
Speaker 4: so teasable, right, So he's John, He's John Caldera. I
Speaker 4: love the guy like I love, love, love John Caldera,
Speaker 4: But dang, he does a great job and He's assembled
Speaker 4: this just amazing staff and all they do every day
Speaker 4: is try to figure out a way to prevent Colorado
Speaker 4: from becoming California and yet even more than it already has.
Speaker 4: So give them some money. Also, they also support complete
Speaker 4: Colorado dot com, a website I use every single day
Speaker 4: in my show prep. It is the best aggregator of
Speaker 4: news for Colorado.
Speaker 2: You will find. I have never found a better one.
Speaker 4: So Independence Institute also supports Complete Colorado. Those two things
Speaker 4: alone are worth a donation in my mind. Then we
Speaker 4: have the Steamboat Institute. Yes, they're located in Steamboat, and
Speaker 4: their mission is very similar. They're defending freedom, they're celebrating
Speaker 4: the rugged individualism that made our nation great.
Speaker 2: But they're doing it a little bit differently. Whereas Independence
Speaker 2: Institute is very engaged in promoting and talking about policy
Speaker 2: positions and they successfully run many ballot initiatives to protect
Speaker 2: Colorados from big government, Steamboat is going at it in
Speaker 2: a different way. They do education.
Speaker 4: They take to college campuses these debates about big issues,
Speaker 4: so college students can see two things. Number One, they
Speaker 4: can see the conservative side of that issue being presented
Speaker 4: by an incredibly intelligent person, no matter who it is.
Speaker 4: And secondarily, they can see people disagree civilly, so they both.
Speaker 2: Do important work.
Speaker 4: They're both worthy of a donation. So if you want
Speaker 4: to put your money into saving Colorado, give it to
Speaker 4: either of them. Then I've got the Colorado Veterans Project.
Speaker 4: Not only do they do the Veterans Day Parade, they
Speaker 4: also donate money to other veterans organizations throughout Colorado.
Speaker 2: Very well run organization.
Speaker 4: So if you'd like to support veterans, you could donate
Speaker 4: to CVP right.
Speaker 2: There by the way.
Speaker 4: I put links to all of their donation pages on
Speaker 4: Colorado GIFs Day on the blog, so.
Speaker 2: You don't even have to go to Colorado Gifts. You
Speaker 2: can just go to the.
Speaker 4: Blog and click right through and make a donation. And
Speaker 4: we've added Okay, let me refresh there, but let me
Speaker 4: get through these other two. Then I've added come Back Yoga.
Speaker 4: Come Back Yoga is their mission statement provides free, accessible,
Speaker 4: trauma informed, science based yoga classes to the military community
Speaker 4: to enhance overall health and quality of life. And my
Speaker 4: friend Rob of the Day, Rob is now a yoga
Speaker 4: instructor because of come Back Yoga, and he speaks very
Speaker 4: very highly of how the program helps veterans who might
Speaker 4: be struggling. And so please, if you're a yoga person,
Speaker 4: maybe consider giving some money to come back yoga. Then
Speaker 4: we have the Motorcycle Relief Project. This is another veterans
Speaker 4: organization that takes veterans on multi day motorcycle trips, which
Speaker 4: you know, you're like, okay, what's the value there. But
Speaker 4: every night at the end of the ride for that day,
Speaker 4: they sit around, they have conversations, They talk about dealing
Speaker 4: with stress and post traumatic stress and let these guys
Speaker 4: and gals know they aren't alone. So if you love
Speaker 4: motorcycles and you love veterans, Motorcycle Relief Project might be.
Speaker 2: The one for you.
Speaker 4: And then of course A Rod just added, but I
Speaker 4: don't think it's updated just yet.
Speaker 2: It's not updated yet. Oh yeah, you did.
Speaker 4: Big Brothers and big sisters. He himself is a big
Speaker 4: He has.
Speaker 2: A little brother.
Speaker 4: And if you're not familiar with big brothers and big sisters,
Speaker 4: they provide kind of adult mentorship and friendship for kids
Speaker 4: who may not have In the case of a Rod's kid,
Speaker 4: maybe they don't have a father figure in their life,
Speaker 4: or maybe they don't have a female role model in
Speaker 4: their life. It's a wonderful program and it really helps
Speaker 4: kids have another trusted adult in their life to give
Speaker 4: them a different perspective.
Speaker 3: Humbly seeing the impact on my little and honestly, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much is to do with me,
Speaker 3: more so just to have someone there for him, and
Speaker 3: then seeing all the other bigs with their littles in
Speaker 3: the big.
Speaker 5: Group settings that we do, it has a massive impact.
Speaker 3: And the leadership, all the different kind of kind of
Speaker 3: like camp counselor escort, all the other leaders that really
Speaker 3: help guide our activities are just so cool and they're
Speaker 3: so great with the kids. They make the activities so
Speaker 3: awesome for these for these littles, And it's just a
Speaker 3: couple hours a month we donate our time, but it
Speaker 3: is a huge impact.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Venture to guess, the more money that the big brother,
Speaker 3: big sister of colorad who gets, the the cooler activities
Speaker 3: that get that we get to do, the more often
Speaker 3: activities we get to do, the cooler meals that we
Speaker 3: get to have for lunch, the more guidance that they
Speaker 3: have as a program.
Speaker 5: So I couldn't say enough good things about them.
Speaker 4: Excellent, So we've all got all of these links on
Speaker 4: the blog at Mandy's blog dot com.
Speaker 2: When we get back, I've got some of the folks
Speaker 2: from Step Denver. Step Denver is. They've been around for
Speaker 2: so long, they used to be Step thirteen. I can't
Speaker 2: even I wonder how many men they have actually helped.
Speaker 2: It's got to be thousands get their lives back through
Speaker 2: a program of work and accountability. And I love them.
Speaker 4: They're coming up next stick around helping men overcome the
Speaker 4: perils of addiction in a fashion that I enthusiastically support.
Speaker 4: I've had the opportunity to go and tour the facility,
Speaker 4: and if you do that, if you take the tour
Speaker 4: and you go and find out how the program works,
Speaker 4: you will be blown away as I was at everything
Speaker 4: required and joining me in the studio. Now the executive director.
Speaker 4: Are you is that your official title?
Speaker 2: Megan?
Speaker 4: Yes, Megan Shay. She's new to that role, but not
Speaker 4: new to Step Denver. And we also have Derek who
Speaker 4: has now are you where are you in the program?
Speaker 8: Derek, I'm a recovery support manager.
Speaker 4: Recovery support manager? Are you a former addict or recovering addict?
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm in recovery myself.
Speaker 2: And that is very common. It's Step Denver.
Speaker 9: It is twenty of our twenty five staff members have
Speaker 9: been through the program themselves or are actively in recovery.
Speaker 2: What is the point of that.
Speaker 9: I believe it's part of the peer to peer model
Speaker 9: where we're not just people that got a degree in
Speaker 9: something and have that on the wall and say hey,
Speaker 9: I read this in a book.
Speaker 8: It might help you.
Speaker 9: We get to with the residents that we work with
Speaker 9: on a daily basis. We get to tell them, hey,
Speaker 9: look I've been where you're at. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 9: I've been in this program myself. I'm not asking you
Speaker 9: to do anything that I haven't done, but I'm going
Speaker 9: to give you suggestions and experience through my lived experience
Speaker 9: to help you get out of this cycle of addiction.
Speaker 2: How did you end up in STEP in the first place.
Speaker 9: I was homeless before I got to STEP, and I
Speaker 9: went to a deta and the counselor that was there
Speaker 9: when I was seeking treatment said you might want to
Speaker 9: try this place called Step Denver. And I was out
Speaker 9: of options, and so I was willing to do anything
Speaker 9: at that point.
Speaker 4: So you really were at rock bottom definitely when you
Speaker 4: first came into the program.
Speaker 2: And when you enter the program, it's.
Speaker 4: Called Step because there are steps that you go through
Speaker 4: and they are physically manifested.
Speaker 2: In where you sleep.
Speaker 4: And when you first come into the program, you have
Speaker 4: these barracks. You know, you're out with all the other guys.
Speaker 4: What was that like for you when you got there
Speaker 4: and you realize like, okay, I'm gonna do this. Tell
Speaker 4: me what that part was like, Like how you made
Speaker 4: that first step?
Speaker 9: Yeah, So my experience with STEP, like I should mention that,
Speaker 9: like I chose to sleep on the street instead of
Speaker 9: the shelters because it was safer and cleaner on the
Speaker 9: street than in the shelters. And so I went into
Speaker 9: STEP with the expectation with if it looks, smells, or
Speaker 9: feels like a shelter, I'm not going to stay. And
Speaker 9: so when I walked in and I saw how immaculately
Speaker 9: clean it was twenty four and how kind and comforting
Speaker 9: the staff members were, and then like I get a
Speaker 9: bed to sleep on instead of like a bunk and
Speaker 9: it's like a really nice bed, and I get a
Speaker 9: closet and the living space was like beyond what I
Speaker 9: was expecting, and it made me like immediately when I
Speaker 9: walked in, it felt like home. It felt like a brotherhood,
Speaker 9: and it felt comfortable and I felt welcome.
Speaker 2: How did you fall into addiction in the first place.
Speaker 9: I got introduced to drugs and alcohol at a very
Speaker 9: young age, just being exposed to in the environment that
Speaker 9: I grew up in.
Speaker 4: So tell me about what has happened for you just
Speaker 4: as a human since you became You got sober, and
Speaker 4: then you committed to the program, and now you're actually
Speaker 4: working for the program.
Speaker 2: How has that evolution been for Derek?
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's been life saving and life changing.
Speaker 9: To be honest, like I'm I'm a completely different person
Speaker 9: to the selfish, self centered, egotistical full of pride and
Speaker 9: guilt and shame and fear before for recovery and now
Speaker 9: I'm the exact opposite of all those things. I have
Speaker 9: a purpose in my life to be of service to
Speaker 9: other people and to help people, and to be a
Speaker 9: messenger of truth and love and an advocate for recovery.
Speaker 9: And I'm very much I'm very much a fan of
Speaker 9: recovering out loud. I'm not shy about my recovery and
Speaker 9: I don't shout it from the rooftops like a preacher.
Speaker 9: But I'm definitely willing to have the conversation and have
Speaker 9: the vulnerable conversations, and I lean into discomforts and I
Speaker 9: lean into fear, and I only know how to do
Speaker 9: these things and just be a regular citizen in our community,
Speaker 9: like tax paying member of our community, like a good member.
Speaker 9: I only know how to do those things because Step
Speaker 9: and the twelve Step Fellowships that I got involved in.
Speaker 4: Megan, you, guys, how many people do you think you've
Speaker 4: actually helped over the years.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that has to be thousands. When
Speaker 2: did Bob Kota start this?
Speaker 3: What year?
Speaker 10: So we were founded in nineteen eighty three. We have
Speaker 10: served thousands of men over the years. Last year we
Speaker 10: served almost four hundred men. So we're now serving about
Speaker 10: four hundred men per year. So, and the key is
Speaker 10: it's not just servings, right, So we consider a man
Speaker 10: served when they've been in our program five plus days.
Speaker 10: We don't consider them served because they had a place
Speaker 10: to stay for one night, or we've provided them with food.
Speaker 10: To us, true service is they learned something they can
Speaker 10: put into action in their life that is going to
Speaker 10: have an impact in their quality of life. Their ability
Speaker 10: to recover, their ability to be self sufficient. And so
Speaker 10: we consider men served after they've actually received career coaching
Speaker 10: and peer coaching from men like Derek and gone through
Speaker 10: you know, some of our curriculum and meetings and received
Speaker 10: things that they can actually apply. And so I think
Speaker 10: that's the difference too. When you look at shelters, it's
Speaker 10: like heads and beds, right, how many nights did they stay?
Speaker 8: For us?
Speaker 10: It's about them actually receiving the tools that they need
Speaker 10: to become the people that they're capable of being. You
Speaker 10: see what Derek is doing every day in his life,
Speaker 10: the pact he's having on these men.
Speaker 2: And we don't want lives to be wasted.
Speaker 10: We don't want people on the street living in misery
Speaker 10: and despair. We want them to have purpose. And that's
Speaker 10: our main goal, is that they can sustain where I
Speaker 10: learn it step after they leave, not just oh great,
Speaker 10: we served four hundred men.
Speaker 4: This is a challenging population. Addiction is a real tough
Speaker 4: thing and there's a lot of relapse and things of
Speaker 4: that nature. Do you feel like because of the program,
Speaker 4: And either of you can answer this, because this program
Speaker 4: is and I never want to knock any kind of rehab.
Speaker 4: Like there's a form of rehab that's going to help people.
Speaker 4: It may not help all people, but I am all
Speaker 4: in favor of any program that I want to be
Speaker 4: clear about that. But the thing I like about STEP
Speaker 4: is that it does require that accountability portion. It requires
Speaker 4: self sufficient It requires you to go out and get
Speaker 4: a job, It requires you to do these things that
Speaker 4: bring you back into society.
Speaker 2: Is that do you.
Speaker 4: Think that's why it's so successful. I'm gonna ask Derek
Speaker 4: that I.
Speaker 8: Do believe that's why it's so successful.
Speaker 9: I was telling Megan the other day and spoke about
Speaker 9: it this morning as well as like we recover in
Speaker 9: real time.
Speaker 8: Life isn't on pause.
Speaker 9: We're able to go do those life things instead of
Speaker 9: just focusing just on one thing for eight hours a day,
Speaker 9: which is my addiction and the recovery from it. But
Speaker 9: like I actually get to save my money, I get
Speaker 9: to be accountable for my actions within this community.
Speaker 8: I get to go to the store and cook my food.
Speaker 8: I need to be able to.
Speaker 9: Learn how to make my bed in the right way
Speaker 9: and be accountable for all those things.
Speaker 8: But also like.
Speaker 9: Really just build habits that are going to carry me
Speaker 9: once I get out of said program because it's going
Speaker 9: to end eventually.
Speaker 4: I love the way you just said, I get to
Speaker 4: do these things. I get to have a job, I
Speaker 4: get to do these instead of I have to. That's
Speaker 4: a pretty significant mindset situation there, you know. It's that
Speaker 4: I get to.
Speaker 2: Do these things, not I have to. Meghan, how much
Speaker 2: does it.
Speaker 10: Cost take a man, Yeah, it's five It's just over
Speaker 10: five thousand, fifty two two hundred dollars per man, and
Speaker 10: that's for the entire stay. So most men are staying
Speaker 10: with us for four to six months, some up to
Speaker 10: two years. But if we look at how many men
Speaker 10: we serve in a year in our total expenses, it's
Speaker 10: about fifty two hundred dollars per man, which, by the way,
Speaker 10: is one sixth of the cost I did the math
Speaker 10: on one of these hotels, one sixth of the cost
Speaker 10: of just putting someone in a hotel room. And so
Speaker 10: for a fraction we are able to help men become
Speaker 10: self sufficient, get out of that cycle of dependency, and
Speaker 10: be able to contribute because they have a lot to contribute,
Speaker 10: by the way, to their community and to their families,
Speaker 10: and just for.
Speaker 4: The person on the text line who asked if Mayor
Speaker 4: Mike had done the tour of step Denver yet that
Speaker 4: is a big fat no. I asked Megan that when
Speaker 4: you came in, if you would like to help out
Speaker 4: step Denver and if you're like me, I love a
Speaker 4: hand up program, they could use your donation today. I
Speaker 4: put a link on the blog today where you can
Speaker 4: go straight to the Colorado Gives page. What is the
Speaker 4: benefit of working through Colorado Gives instead of a direct donation.
Speaker 2: Well, there are a couple.
Speaker 10: One is the Colorida Gives Foundation does an incentive fund match,
Speaker 10: so we will have a larger percentage of that incentive
Speaker 10: fund at the end of the day based on how
Speaker 10: many people are supporting step Denver among all of the
Speaker 10: other charities that they're supporting today. We also have a
Speaker 10: twenty five thousand dollars match. We have an individual who
Speaker 10: has stepped up and said I will match dollar for
Speaker 10: dollar up to twenty five thousand dollars gifts that are
Speaker 10: received on this show.
Speaker 4: Now you just need to hit twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: and you hit another twenty five How.
Speaker 2: About five thousand dollars from that last.
Speaker 4: I was going to look on this right now. It
Speaker 4: doesn't have the thing on there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been getting updates from our director of development,
Speaker 10: and right before we left Step to come here, we
Speaker 10: were about five thousand away from lat so here we go.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, no, it's that's a pretty match. Okay, it's weird.
Speaker 10: There's another cool thing that's happening is Colorado Gives Foundation.
Speaker 10: Any new monthly donation that's made today through Colorado gives
Speaker 10: dot org slash Step Denver. People who sign up for
Speaker 10: a monthly gift, Colorado Gives Foundation will match their first
Speaker 10: donation okay, dollar for dollars, so there are a couple
Speaker 10: of different matches. There's one other benefit which is new,
Speaker 10: the Homeless Contribution tax Credit. So people who give one
Speaker 10: thousand dollars or more to step Denver are eligible for
Speaker 10: a twenty five percent tax credit on that gift, So
Speaker 10: twenty five percent of their gift they'll get back in
Speaker 10: a tax credit on their federal or state TAXI state
Speaker 10: state of Colorado. All right, my friends, there you go.
Speaker 2: How long is the waitlist for step Denver. We never
Speaker 2: have a waitlist, Okay.
Speaker 10: We were actually an overflow two weeks ago for the
Speaker 10: first time, so I've been there six years and I've
Speaker 10: never seen us full, and a couple weeks ago we
Speaker 10: hit sixty one or sixty two and the sixty three
Speaker 10: bed capacity. We actually say we're a sixty bed facility,
Speaker 10: but we have three overflow beds okay, and we had
Speaker 10: one overflow bed open. So we're very grateful that right
Speaker 10: now the demand is actually leading men to our doors.
Speaker 10: Men are making that choice. But the fact of the
Speaker 10: matter is, at any given time, there are over one
Speaker 10: hundred and fifty beds open in this community. We do
Speaker 10: not have a shortage of beds for people to have.
Speaker 2: A shortage of people taking them. Correct.
Speaker 4: I do want to say you do have to go
Speaker 4: to the program sober, yes, meaning if you are intoxicated
Speaker 4: on anything, you have to sober up before you can
Speaker 4: come through the door, which I think is reasonable because
Speaker 4: all of the other men there are trying to maintain
Speaker 4: their sobriety and they don't need to be around someone
Speaker 4: who is not sober. But you can go to detox
Speaker 4: and then go straight to step Denver and that is
Speaker 4: something that's.
Speaker 2: What you did. Derek.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, guys, I really appreciate you coming in. I
Speaker 4: love the program. I'm so excited you're expanding into Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2: When is that open?
Speaker 10: We are this time next year, we hope to have
Speaker 10: our doors open, fifty bed facility in Colorado Springs. It'll
Speaker 10: be called STEP Springs. It is our first replication of
Speaker 10: this program. We've now got a forty plus year history,
Speaker 10: we have proof ten years of data proving this works,
Speaker 10: and so now our mission is to take this model
Speaker 10: into communities and reach more men in need of this program.
Speaker 10: Men like Derek give them that opportunity. So Derek will
Speaker 10: be moving to Colorado Springs to help us launch that
Speaker 10: and give other men the same opportunity he was given.
Speaker 2: They're lucky to have you, Derek.
Speaker 8: I'm blad to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: Meghan Shay from an executive director of Step Denver and Derek,
Speaker 2: thank you so much because we'll be back right after this.
Speaker 2: Somebody to hit the text line, is today's show just
Speaker 2: going to be you asking for money that I don't have,
Speaker 2: not directly, but it is Colorado Gives Day, So yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of not the whole show, though, I do promise
Speaker 2: you that got a lot of stuff on the blog today,
Speaker 2: But I want to do this real quick because I
Speaker 2: don't a lot of time here. I went a little long.
Speaker 4: Can we all just be excited for Cus Travis Hunter?
Speaker 2: I know, don't. I don't talk sports a lot, but it's.
Speaker 4: Very exciting that a Buffalo is a finalist for the
Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy, and truly from where I sit, and I
Speaker 4: didn't watch a lot of college football this year because
Speaker 4: Florida State took the year off.
Speaker 2: And don't tell me otherwise.
Speaker 4: Okay, just don't even stop it, don't don't you don't
Speaker 4: say it. But since Florida State took the year off,
Speaker 4: I haven't been watching a college a lot of college football,
Speaker 4: but man, the highlights of this kid, Holy macarony, Holy macarny.
Speaker 4: It is really really I hope he wins. Let me
Speaker 4: just say that, I do hope he wins.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 4: We're all rooting for you, Travis. I'm sure Travis listens
Speaker 4: to the program when he's not in school, because you know,
Speaker 4: our college age men numbers are off the charts. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I just thought that was cool, so I wanted to
Speaker 4: bring that to your attention. Mike Rosen has written a.
Speaker 2: Column at page two at.
Speaker 4: Complete Colorado dot Com and I love it so much,
Speaker 4: but it's addressing something that we had a conversation about
Speaker 4: with in my friend group not too long ago, and
Speaker 4: that was a friend of mine said, hey, did you
Speaker 4: notice that Mary Christmas has made a comeback? And I
Speaker 4: was like, what, she goes in the stores, in the
Speaker 4: stores everywhere, it's Merry Christmas again. Some places still have
Speaker 4: Happy Holidays. She's like, where I am, everything is Mary Christmas.
Speaker 4: She's in Florida, of course, so of course it's Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to ask you, guys, have you noticed
Speaker 4: the messaging in stores or whatever, the banners and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Have you have you noticed this?
Speaker 4: And I figured I would ask the question and then
Speaker 4: you guys can hit the text line at five sixty
Speaker 4: six nine zero and tell me if you've noticed it.
Speaker 4: Because Mike Rosen makes a really good case for retailers
Speaker 4: going with the prophet motive and going back to Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4: And I love it, not because I disparage any other religion.
Speaker 2: And if I know someone is.
Speaker 4: Jewish or a Muslim, I'll say happy Honkah or happy Holidays.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to, you know, rub the big Christian holiday.
Speaker 4: But the point Mike makes, and he makes it beautifully
Speaker 4: is that Christmas is there's two versions of Christmas. One
Speaker 4: celebrates the birth of Christ. One is Santa Claus bringing
Speaker 4: presents for kids. Right, those things are very different, and
Speaker 4: we should be able as a society to recognize the
Speaker 4: secular Christmas should be okay for everyone to just say
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. I think we're getting past the era of hypersensitization.
Speaker 4: I mean, or maybe I'm just hanging out with people
Speaker 4: who have, you know, completely heartless.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Hit my text lineup the Common Spirit Health text line
Speaker 4: five sixty six nine oero. Are you seeing Merry Christmas
Speaker 4: or are you seeing happy Holidays?
Speaker 2: And do you even care? Have we beaten this to death?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next.
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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
Speaker 4: I'm your host, Mandy Connall, and it is Colorado Gives Day,
Speaker 4: where we ask you to dig out your piggy bank
Speaker 4: and donate to your favorite charities. One of my favorite
Speaker 4: charities is well she is not my favorite charity. She
Speaker 4: is working with the Children's Diabetes Foundation. Dana Davis, Welcome
Speaker 4: back to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. We're so proud
Speaker 2: to be one of your favorite charities.
Speaker 4: Well you guys work with First of all, I want
Speaker 4: to ask you this because I saw this not too
Speaker 4: long ago and I meant to look it up and
Speaker 4: I've forgotten to. Right now, there was a big breakthrough,
Speaker 4: it seems in type two diabetes.
Speaker 2: Earlier this year they did some gene editing SYPE two,
Speaker 2: so we too. Yes, so I thought it was type one.
Speaker 2: Well you said type two, but I know type one
Speaker 2: with type one.
Speaker 11: So there are some amazing things that are happening, and
Speaker 11: there are some breakthroughs that are happening, and we're hoping
Speaker 11: and thinking and I know so many people think that's
Speaker 11: just so far down the line.
Speaker 2: But in like, we think in twenty.
Speaker 11: Years that would be a cure, and I know people
Speaker 11: feel like that's so far away. What we're able to
Speaker 11: do is figure out right now we can do where
Speaker 11: we put islet cells in the body, but we need
Speaker 11: to still give people anti rejection drugs right, So, to
Speaker 11: be honest, I would rather be type one right than beyond.
Speaker 2: Anti rejection correct. Correct.
Speaker 11: So we're so close. We're so close. I didn't think
Speaker 11: I could ever say that before. I actually just had
Speaker 11: a meeting with our researchers last week and for the
Speaker 11: researchers were very honest and we're very sort of organic
Speaker 11: and specific about what we'll share.
Speaker 2: For the first time, they told me they feel like
Speaker 2: we're close. Wow, that's got it.
Speaker 4: I mean, wouldn't it be great to have your organization
Speaker 4: go out of business because you weren't need it anymore.
Speaker 2: It would be that would be my ultimate goal.
Speaker 11: Yeah, And for right now, our goal really is is
Speaker 11: to make sure that type ones who do have it.
Speaker 2: Are getting the best care possible.
Speaker 4: Let's start with what's the difference between type one and
Speaker 4: type two? Because a lot of people are like, well,
Speaker 4: just love some wait that this is not a lifestyle disease.
Speaker 4: Type one diabetes totally different than type two diabetes.
Speaker 2: What is the difference?
Speaker 11: So type one is an autoimmune disease, and you can
Speaker 11: have markers. We can actually test and see if people
Speaker 11: have markers to predispose them to type one, and we
Speaker 11: actually can give infusions for two weeks that can delay
Speaker 11: the onset of type one. Oh wow, the type one
Speaker 11: is an autoimmune disease. You don't do anything, you don't
Speaker 11: You didn't cause it. Type two is more about lifestyle.
Speaker 11: There are some possibilities. There are Type two's that are thin,
Speaker 11: and people are like, well, they're thin and they're in shape,
Speaker 11: and that's because the pancreas was stressed and make enough insulin.
Speaker 2: But type one, literally your body makes no insulin and
Speaker 2: you were diagnosed as a child.
Speaker 5: Is that why?
Speaker 4: Because everybody asked, well, why is it the Children's Diabetes
Speaker 4: Foundation when in reality, you can be diagnosed with type
Speaker 4: one diabetes at any point in your life.
Speaker 11: Thank you for saying that, one hundred percent. So when
Speaker 11: I was diagnosed, I was seven, and my parents called
Speaker 11: it the Children's Diabetes Foundation because at that time they
Speaker 11: called type one childhood diabetes and juvenile diabetes.
Speaker 2: Right right now that's changed.
Speaker 11: I mean I have board members that were twenty six
Speaker 11: and thirty one. They were diagnosed. You can get diagnosed
Speaker 11: when you're ninety with type one diabetes. You can be
Speaker 11: diagnosed at any age. And I'm really glad you brought
Speaker 11: that up because it's so important for people to know.
Speaker 11: We recently, you know, we have people that need to
Speaker 11: know the symptoms. Recently, there was a teenager who was
Speaker 11: misdiagnosed not through US, not through SeeU, but through somewhere
Speaker 11: else and unfortunately they passed away because they didn't get
Speaker 11: the proper care. And all it is is a simple
Speaker 11: blood test and you'urine test, very simple test.
Speaker 2: What are the symptoms to look for. Let's go ahead
Speaker 2: talk about that.
Speaker 11: It's weight loss, it's fatigue.
Speaker 2: Unexplained weight loss.
Speaker 4: To be clear, like, if you're on a diet you're
Speaker 4: losing weight, that doesn't mean you have type one diabetes.
Speaker 4: But if you all of a sudden start to shed weight.
Speaker 11: Shed weight, it's like twenty pounds in nothing flat. It's
Speaker 11: extreme thirst. Depending on your age, it's bed wedding. I
Speaker 11: was wedding my bad at seven. That was not normal, right,
Speaker 11: It's it's it's crankiness.
Speaker 4: Well then I might have Type two guys.
Speaker 11: I mean, I say it continues through. We're all a
Speaker 11: little cranky, right, So it's that it's knowing the symptoms.
Speaker 11: We're working really hard on education too, and educating everyone.
Speaker 2: I think people just assume.
Speaker 11: They know what type one diabetes is and says, oh,
Speaker 11: you know, you're too old to.
Speaker 2: Get it, or you're too.
Speaker 11: Healthy to get it, and that's it's almost like an
Speaker 11: invisible disease because so many people look so healthy you
Speaker 11: would never think they actually have it.
Speaker 4: Well, it seems like now there are like managing diabetes.
Speaker 4: There's so many tools on the market now that are
Speaker 4: just crazy. The constant glucose monitor that the people have
Speaker 4: for kids, that's just got to be a game changer.
Speaker 4: What it's a god sense. So imagine that you have
Speaker 4: a one year old.
Speaker 11: Who can't quite tell you what's wrong with them, and
Speaker 11: you can look.
Speaker 2: And see what their numbers are.
Speaker 11: So I'm wearing one right now and it tells me
Speaker 11: twenty four hours a day on my phone what my
Speaker 11: blood sugars are, right, And it's something that in the future,
Speaker 11: they feel like all all people should be wearing at
Speaker 11: some point in time in their life because it's such
Speaker 11: an important thing to see how food and activities affect you,
Speaker 11: not just as a type one, right, but as.
Speaker 2: A human being.
Speaker 4: There's some really interesting stuff happening right now when it
Speaker 4: comes to personalization.
Speaker 2: To your point, and one.
Speaker 4: I just read an article a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 4: about a study that's happening now where people are wearing
Speaker 4: these glucose monitors and eating what is we've all been
Speaker 4: told is a healthy diet, but some people are finding
Speaker 4: out certain vegetables are making their blood sugar go crazy.
Speaker 4: So we're maybe looking at a future, well, you will
Speaker 4: have a very specific eating plan of like these are
Speaker 4: your food these are your superfoods, and they might be
Speaker 4: different for everyone.
Speaker 2: It's so cool the stuff that's cool, isn't it cool?
Speaker 2: And it's cool that it can all springboard off of
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 11: There's so many things that with chronic illnesses that can
Speaker 11: help everybody. And I think that's the one thing about
Speaker 11: you know, diabetes, is there's some really cool technologies that
Speaker 11: have happened that can help everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just got a question on the text line, Manny
Speaker 4: ask her what it's called or what type of diabetes
Speaker 4: it is? When the person doesn't have a pancreas, so
Speaker 4: that will that's type one.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's type and that's sometimes when people have cancer
Speaker 11: and they're pancreas is removed. I have a girlfriend who
Speaker 11: has a father that lived for twelve years, I mean,
Speaker 11: and he was older.
Speaker 2: Without it, you become type one in need insulin.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so let's talk about the Barbiadavia Center first
Speaker 4: of all, because we are so blessed and lucky here
Speaker 4: in the Denver metro to have the Barbia Davia Center
Speaker 4: started by your mom. It was because of your conditional
Speaker 4: Is type one diabetes hereditary?
Speaker 2: Is there a hereditary component?
Speaker 11: There is a hereditary component. I don't have it in
Speaker 11: my history at all. So it's also really possible just
Speaker 11: out of nowhere for somebody to have life. I know,
Speaker 11: I'm special, so yeah, can come out of it? Can
Speaker 11: it can be either you know, you know of it
Speaker 11: and it's in your genes and and and that's why
Speaker 11: it's important too, I think for people to make sure
Speaker 11: they get a blood test or to get tested if
Speaker 11: you do have it in your family.
Speaker 2: The Barbara Davis Center will test you for free, oh.
Speaker 11: Wow, to see if you have the markers and then
Speaker 11: be able to let you know if an onset of
Speaker 11: type one is coming.
Speaker 2: What do you guys do at the Data Dava or
Speaker 2: the just renamed the Center of the Barbaraga. They need
Speaker 2: to change, right, we need rebranding what do you guys
Speaker 2: do over there overall because there's so many things.
Speaker 11: There's so many things, it's fantastic. So we do patient
Speaker 11: care on the first floor. Second floor there's an infusion
Speaker 11: center where we actually able to do there's a few
Speaker 11: drugs that you can now infuse and push off the
Speaker 11: onset of type one if you have all the markers.
Speaker 11: And then the top two floors are a wet lab
Speaker 11: and a dry lab. So we do sort of soup
Speaker 11: to nuts. We do everything from care to trying to
Speaker 11: prevent it to a cure.
Speaker 4: And that's pretty amazing that there are drugs that you
Speaker 4: can give someone to keep their pancreas going if they're headed.
Speaker 2: In that direction.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but now it's just getting the testing ryan some
Speaker 11: of it again is going to be a sticky a
Speaker 11: sticky answer, but some of its insurance. It's a very
Speaker 11: expensive drug right now. We're trying really hard to get
Speaker 11: it past. We're trying very hard to get as much
Speaker 11: data as we can on it so that we can
Speaker 11: get it into mainstream.
Speaker 4: Is that part of what you do as well? Do
Speaker 4: you do you help researchers, do you do you fund
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? We have we have two floors of researchers. Wow,
Speaker 2: so you actually have it. For some reason, I thought
Speaker 2: you did grants, But you guys actually are telling we
Speaker 2: actually have researchers.
Speaker 11: We have over two hundred and twenty people in the
Speaker 11: building at the Barbara Davia Center. I'd say a third
Speaker 11: of them are Type one themselves, so they have a
Speaker 11: lot of passion for it and a lot of the
Speaker 11: researches is going on. We also have the largest clinical
Speaker 11: base of patients, so any devices that are going to
Speaker 11: mount in the next five years have come through our
Speaker 11: center for testing. Oh wow, We've been able to be
Speaker 11: a part of it because we have the most children,
Speaker 11: the most adults. Ninety percent of the Type ones in
Speaker 11: Colorado and surrounding areas come to the center.
Speaker 4: Oh that's fantastic, because I got to tell you, every
Speaker 4: time we have this have you on the show, I
Speaker 4: get an email from someone that says, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: I had no idea this was here. Just found out
Speaker 4: I had Type one diabetes. I'm going to go there because,
Speaker 4: you know, for the education component, because it's scary.
Speaker 2: I mean scary, you really do when you get that diagnosis.
Speaker 4: I think when you're a child and I don't want to,
Speaker 4: you know, speak for your experience.
Speaker 2: It's a pain.
Speaker 4: But maybe because your parents are kind of handling things,
Speaker 4: it may not be as scary as it could be.
Speaker 4: But when you're an adult and you realize, oh, this
Speaker 4: is going to be the rest of my life, it
Speaker 4: can be really intimidating and frightening.
Speaker 2: So what do you guys do in the way of
Speaker 2: education and do you have how old do you serve?
Speaker 11: We serve literally from day one to we have one
Speaker 11: patient that's had it for seventy five years.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's amazing, and you know, to one
Speaker 2: hundred years old.
Speaker 11: Education is crucial and my parents wanted to start this
Speaker 11: because they wanted to care for the whole family, right,
Speaker 11: So part of it is making sure that the siblings
Speaker 11: are okay. If it's you yourself, that your partner or
Speaker 11: you know your kids are okay with it, it's we
Speaker 11: treat it as a whole family in the education and
Speaker 11: that means, you know, a lot of times Type ones
Speaker 11: are twice as likely.
Speaker 2: To suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts and.
Speaker 4: A function of the I mean, is there a physiological
Speaker 4: reason for that or is it just the stress and
Speaker 4: the and the sort of yeah, you know, mental where
Speaker 4: are you? Yeah, Like, yes, I think it's a little
Speaker 4: of both.
Speaker 11: And then actually Type ones are four times as likely
Speaker 11: to suffer from eating disorders because there's such a focus
Speaker 11: on what you're eating and what that looks like, and
Speaker 11: and that can be at any age. That's not just
Speaker 11: for kids and not just for teenagers. So mental health
Speaker 11: shoes is a big push that we do as well,
Speaker 11: because it's such a crucial part of it and taking
Speaker 11: care of the whole person, not just your disease, but
Speaker 11: making sure your mind, body, and soul are Okay, Well,
Speaker 11: what are.
Speaker 4: The repercussions of untreated type one diabetes? Obviously people can die.
Speaker 2: You die?
Speaker 11: Oh oh, just that's it, okay, I mean yeah, one
Speaker 11: hundred years ago, they starved you till you died. Oh my,
Speaker 11: that was the treatment before insulin was discovered. Like it's
Speaker 11: kind of crazy to think, so to think when people
Speaker 11: are like, oh, it's been so long since we've had
Speaker 11: a cure, It's like we've only had insulin for one
Speaker 11: hundred years and they've known about it since Egyptian times.
Speaker 11: There's proof that it was called the sugar urine disease
Speaker 11: and they knew to you know, sort of if there
Speaker 11: was sugar, if ants went to where you were urinated.
Speaker 2: That you probably had diabetes. Like got's crazy, right, Like
Speaker 2: it's been around forever.
Speaker 4: So if you don't want to go get tested, just
Speaker 4: be on the ground near an ant pilon.
Speaker 2: And see what. It's perfect. But don't crazy. Now people
Speaker 2: are going to do that and I'm going to get
Speaker 2: in trouble with our doctors. They're going to be like,
Speaker 2: what kind of you live?
Speaker 4: But I don't find that fascinating because we don't think
Speaker 4: about the ancient Egyptians.
Speaker 2: I mean, they had a civilized.
Speaker 4: Culture for the time, but you don't think about the
Speaker 4: fact that they were figuring out the internal workings or
Speaker 4: at least knowing that something was wrong, right, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4: That's amazing, Yeah, I mean, that's just amazing. What are
Speaker 4: some of the things that people who are coming to
Speaker 4: the center for the first time.
Speaker 2: What can they expect.
Speaker 11: They can expect a really warm and welcoming place. They
Speaker 11: can expect to find people who understand them. They can
Speaker 11: expect to be treated as a whole person, their whole
Speaker 11: family to be treated. We make sure a lot of
Speaker 11: times like kids will come over from Children's hospital and
Speaker 11: little red wagons.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll come across.
Speaker 11: After they've been diagnosed, they're welcome to they get to
Speaker 11: meet with therapist, they get to meet with a nurse practitioner,
Speaker 11: they get to meet with a doctor. We do the
Speaker 11: initial sort of setup, and then a few weeks later
Speaker 11: we have them come back. That's a lot of information
Speaker 11: to get in the beginning. That's a lot of We
Speaker 11: try to connect them with a network. We try to
Speaker 11: get them with social networks, and we have support groups
Speaker 11: and different things to really help to help them get
Speaker 11: through it.
Speaker 2: So what kind of changes have we seen in terms
Speaker 2: of life expectancy and the life expectancy since you were
Speaker 2: diagnosed as.
Speaker 11: So when I was diagnosed, they were basically I was told,
Speaker 11: you know, to not have children. I didn't have children
Speaker 11: for other reasons, but that I couldn't have children and
Speaker 11: that I could expect to live like thirty forty years.
Speaker 2: WHOA, and now we have.
Speaker 11: People that are living with it for seventy five eighty.
Speaker 11: It'll be my fiftieth anniversary diversary this next year. So
Speaker 11: we're doing a celebration in a metal celebration because we
Speaker 11: have over four hundred patients.
Speaker 2: That I have had it more than fifty years. So
Speaker 2: if the life.
Speaker 11: Expectancy has just doubled, it's become and the quality of
Speaker 11: life right right, I mean, let's be really.
Speaker 4: You can extend someone's life, but their quality of life sucks.
Speaker 2: What you're really doing, you know, that's it and now
Speaker 2: it can be.
Speaker 11: That's one of the bigger pushes too, is with cgms
Speaker 11: and pumps in different ways that you can take care
Speaker 11: of your body. You can. I mean you see there's
Speaker 11: Olympic athletes, there's race car drivers. You can do absolutely everything.
Speaker 11: And now even you're allowed to you know, before you
Speaker 11: weren't allowed to fly planes. There are you know, you're
Speaker 11: allowed to do that now, like it's amazing. There's nothing
Speaker 11: that you can't do anymore.
Speaker 2: So what are they working on?
Speaker 4: What are your researchers working on right now that they
Speaker 4: feel hopeful that the end may be near.
Speaker 2: That would be stem cells.
Speaker 11: I mean that would be the implanting of stem cells
Speaker 11: and seeing you know what do you maybe put it
Speaker 11: in what a cancer cells shell is right, because it's
Speaker 11: you know, survives the immune system and it's you know, impervious,
Speaker 11: so you can it can come, will come and go,
Speaker 11: sorry about that, but working on how to create that
Speaker 11: as a protective implant to put it in the body.
Speaker 2: So the delivery system is the challenge.
Speaker 11: It's the delivery system, yeah, because now they can know
Speaker 11: they can sit and watch and see a cell make
Speaker 11: it into They can take a beta cell, make it
Speaker 11: in or an islet cell, make it into an insulin
Speaker 11: producing cell. They can watch it turn green. When that happens,
Speaker 11: they put an algae on it. They know exactly when
Speaker 11: it becomes an insulin producing cell. They can actually really
Speaker 11: manipulate the cells. It's just a matter of churning off
Speaker 11: the autoimmune system or you know, fooling it.
Speaker 4: Right right, And that's the issue. I mean, I read
Speaker 4: a lot about stem cells. I remember regenerative therapy client
Speaker 4: that is on the show quite often, and I'm fascinated
Speaker 4: by the potential for that in the future. But it's
Speaker 4: like you think about stem cells can be anything. How
Speaker 4: do you make sure that they are going to be
Speaker 4: what you want them to be? And to your point,
Speaker 4: an insulin producing stem sell or you know, to basically
Speaker 4: juice the pancreas.
Speaker 2: That's to make it work the way it's supposed to.
Speaker 2: It's all. It's just isn't it a great time to
Speaker 2: be alive?
Speaker 11: And thank goodness, there are people that are so brilliant
Speaker 11: that understand that. Yeah, you know when I talk to
Speaker 11: our researchers and they talk about things and they're so
Speaker 11: excited and they get it and it's just not how
Speaker 11: my brain works.
Speaker 2: But so happy that there are people that think that way.
Speaker 4: Well, this is why we have Dana on the show today,
Speaker 4: because this is Colorado Gives Day, and as we just
Speaker 4: talked a little while ago to step Denver, it's the
Speaker 4: perfect day to make a donation that could feasibly I mean.
Speaker 2: We're actually talking about for real.
Speaker 4: You could make a donation that can help end type
Speaker 4: one diabetes. And then I wouldn't get to see Dana
Speaker 4: every year.
Speaker 2: But we'd find something used to talk about.
Speaker 4: We'd find some reason to have you on for another reason.
Speaker 4: I've got a few text messages I want to share.
Speaker 4: This one said, please tell her that I used to
Speaker 4: work for her dad at Davis Oil when he.
Speaker 2: Started the foundation. I'm so proud of how far they've come. Thanks.
Speaker 2: So it's so incredible people watching you this.
Speaker 4: When my son participated in the program until he was
Speaker 4: eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 2: What's the Daisy program?
Speaker 11: So the Daisy program is one of the programs where
Speaker 11: he must have a sibling that has Type one.
Speaker 2: Oh, also Celiac and also tess for Celiac. And is
Speaker 2: there a connection there? There is no way, there's a big.
Speaker 11: Connection with I think it's like half the type ones
Speaker 11: have Celiac as well.
Speaker 2: I have four autoimmune diseases.
Speaker 4: Wet's see my family. We don't get cancer, we get
Speaker 4: autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2: Right, we have a healthy.
Speaker 4: Stream of Celiac's on one side, and then we've got
Speaker 4: you know, like sriatic arthritis. I mean, we got a
Speaker 4: whole gamut of of autoimmune Diseases' just a cornucopia of
Speaker 4: waiting for.
Speaker 2: Mine to kick in. Like every time something hurts, I'm like,
Speaker 2: well here it goes, you know here what I'm ready
Speaker 2: down the path. Just it's one time, but that's interesting
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 11: So they do so that program then follows people for
Speaker 11: a certain amount of time to see.
Speaker 2: There's two different programs.
Speaker 11: One's Teddy, one's Daisy, and I honestly don't remember which
Speaker 11: is the difference.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I should know that.
Speaker 11: But one follows Type one are already diagnosed if they
Speaker 11: get a second autoimmune and one is following siblings or
Speaker 11: maybe children of people that have type one and following
Speaker 11: it through.
Speaker 4: I think that is an amazing part of this program,
Speaker 4: because when you have a kid that has a chronic
Speaker 4: illness or a disease or a condition, the other kids
Speaker 4: kind of get left behind a little bit out of necessity.
Speaker 4: It's not bad parenting, it is out of necessity. You
Speaker 4: have to direct more energy to that.
Speaker 2: Child who needs that.
Speaker 4: But what a wonderful thing for you guys to say,
Speaker 4: we're going to bring you all in and we're going
Speaker 4: to make you all feel special and loved.
Speaker 2: Well, And unfortunately we have a lot of siblings that
Speaker 2: are both Type one. Yeah, we've been finding that more
Speaker 2: and more recently. Are we seeing a higher percentage.
Speaker 4: Are the percentages going up the general population or are
Speaker 4: we just getting better.
Speaker 2: At catching it. I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: I think the percentages aren't a huge jump.
Speaker 11: I mean during COVID everybody's like, oh my god, there's
Speaker 11: you know, there's been a jump, and there wasn't. It
Speaker 11: was unfortunately that people were getting to the point they
Speaker 11: were in DKA and needed to be in the hospital, right,
Speaker 11: So it's being able to catch it early enough. So
Speaker 11: I think it's it's a little bit of both, you know.
Speaker 11: It's I don't think it's a huge jump per se, right,
Speaker 11: you know, it just depends on the population exactly.
Speaker 4: Dana Davis with the Children's Diabetes Foundation, I have put
Speaker 4: a link on the blog today where you can go
Speaker 4: directly to their Colorado Gives page and make a donation
Speaker 4: and maybe be a part of curing type one diabetes.
Speaker 2: Those are big words. They are big words, and hopefully
Speaker 2: we'll get to clink.
Speaker 11: To the curing of diabetes, very very fantastic and maybe
Speaker 11: some other autoimmune disease at the same time.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because you got to knock him out before I
Speaker 4: get mine. So there you go, Dana, it's good to
Speaker 4: see you, to see We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Would you say to me.
Speaker 3: On the break, I said, my youngest brother in law
Speaker 3: shout out to kin keeen. Just turned twenty one years old,
Speaker 3: so the birthday, Yeah, so you know me, you can.
Speaker 2: To introduce him to that, to the drinking life. And
Speaker 2: what did you just say? After that? Where are you starting?
Speaker 2: And this is where this is why I bring this up,
Speaker 2: Well I already see a problem.
Speaker 3: Well we're going to bro too, but we're start I mean,
Speaker 3: we we want to dial all the way back. We're
Speaker 3: taking him to dinner. First, we're gonna go Putt Putt downtown.
Speaker 3: Where are you taking him to dinner?
Speaker 5: Oh, we're gonna go to who Hot for some Mongolian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna do who Hot. You know, call it
Speaker 2: who ha And that's not obviously it's who What is it?
Speaker 2: Who Who?
Speaker 3: It's on the outskirts to Denversus before we, you know,
Speaker 3: reach the downtown scene. Chill it out a little, have
Speaker 3: a good dinner. Then we're gonna go to put Putt downtown.
Speaker 3: In a place downtown.
Speaker 2: Where's there Putt Putt Downtown?
Speaker 3: Multiple there's multiple. There's one that we've been to multiple
Speaker 3: times called Holy Moly. It's it's incredible, like the most
Speaker 3: immaculate scenes that they build.
Speaker 5: Where is that?
Speaker 2: I will tell you right now, give you the general vicinity.
Speaker 5: I couldn't even tell you the general city.
Speaker 3: I told you the general facility downtown on eighteenth and
Speaker 3: uh Lawrence, okay, so near Lodo Okay. Then the other
Speaker 3: one we're gonna go to is also kind of in
Speaker 3: your course field. It's called uh putt Shack, of course.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna go there because we've been to that
Speaker 3: one yet. And then we're starting to experience the pretty
Speaker 3: much the tour of downtown.
Speaker 5: We're gonna the first one we're going to. We're going
Speaker 5: we're going to the rooftops. We're gonna go to a
Speaker 5: view house first and foremost.
Speaker 2: Well, you just mentioned a two minutes ago, you mentioned
Speaker 2: Margarita's first.
Speaker 3: You can't start with yeah, yeah, Margaret Mark, we're getting
Speaker 3: the Rios has the best.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you do you know.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I'm just I know your Mexican. I
Speaker 4: know that this is I know this the Rios. Have
Speaker 4: you even been to Rios?
Speaker 2: I have not, and I'm not I'm not do wait
Speaker 2: hear me out.
Speaker 4: I'm not doubting the quality of their Margarita's. I bet
Speaker 4: they're amazing.
Speaker 5: Max out it too. You can't have more than two.
Speaker 4: But it's also got like a ton of sugar, and
Speaker 4: that's going to make him puke at some point exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't realize turning, he's turning what twenty w.
Speaker 3: The Rios Margarita will be the first, one of the
Speaker 3: first drinks, he goes, yeah yeah, and then view house
Speaker 3: and one up will be a stop, hit up all
Speaker 3: the rooftop bars, the whole the whole tour.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 4: That that just honestly like And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I had my day in the sign you it sounds exhausting,
Speaker 4: like I'm like, God, that just sounds.
Speaker 2: Like a lot.
Speaker 4: Another thing I confirmed on this Europe trip that we
Speaker 4: just got back to. I can no longer day drink
Speaker 4: into night drink at all. I can day drink period,
Speaker 4: or I can night drink period, cannot do them both
Speaker 4: in the same day.
Speaker 2: And that's what getting old does.
Speaker 5: To you, amateur.
Speaker 2: Oh are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm such a professional that I no longer can do
Speaker 4: these things because my body's like, you know what, haven't
Speaker 4: we learned? Haven't we learned from all those years of
Speaker 4: going to brunch and then you know, making it the
Speaker 4: whole day?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 11: Why?
Speaker 7: Why?
Speaker 2: Why haven't we learned that?
Speaker 3: I mean it's and then Keeper's telling me about Dessauce,
Speaker 3: which is an amazing apparently pizza place that is Chicago
Speaker 3: style but thin crust.
Speaker 4: The western Chicago. The Kyle we had in Chicago. Yes,
Speaker 4: that pizza was so good. I still dream about that pizza.
Speaker 3: I still talk about every menu item at every restaurant
Speaker 3: in Chicago.
Speaker 2: It's the best food town in the country and it's
Speaker 2: not particularly close and it's not particularly expensive.
Speaker 5: We spent so much.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, way more money, way less quality.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm actually thinking of going to uh A radio conference
Speaker 4: because it's in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I would totally go back, just to go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I will go back and get that exact same
Speaker 2: pizza that I had.
Speaker 5: It was so good.
Speaker 8: Everything was so good, so good.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's the plan. Now who is driving you people?
Speaker 4: Because whose car is going to get puked in?
Speaker 5: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I don't know cars, cars,
Speaker 3: cars will be left in places. Sure, yeah, I have
Speaker 3: no idea. I mean, you know how far north you live,
Speaker 3: So I have no clue what's happening.
Speaker 4: And who is the one that remains mostly sober to
Speaker 4: make sure that nobody dies or anything like that.
Speaker 8: No one, no one.
Speaker 2: You're just throwing caution to the wind. Just yeah, this
Speaker 2: is uh, this is uh you know role where they.
Speaker 5: Made this is all things all bets off.
Speaker 2: I wish I could remember my twenty first birthday.
Speaker 5: Mine was in Vegas, but I I had.
Speaker 4: A fake ID, right, I had a fake ID from
Speaker 4: the time I got to college. Kimberly Van Cleek fourteen seven.
Speaker 4: Oh excuse me, Kimberly Brandt fourteen seventeen, Van Cleek, Avenue
Speaker 4: Newsromera Beach, Florida.
Speaker 3: Now he has a real fun party trick because he
Speaker 3: has an ID that just expired is from when he
Speaker 3: was two, as a picture of him when he was two,
Speaker 3: because they needed an ID for the passport for them
Speaker 3: for their Wait.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, you can't hand someone a pass or
Speaker 2: photo that it's a party trick.
Speaker 3: He's got another one that shows that's not gotcha. But
Speaker 3: he's gonna first show that one literally is a face
Speaker 3: of a baby because he's adorable and he looks exactly
Speaker 3: the same. But it's a baby ID that my wife
Speaker 3: had to sign for because he couldn't sign at two, right,
Speaker 3: But they needed an ID to get a passport at
Speaker 3: the time. So he literally carries around this idea that
Speaker 3: just expired at twenty one years old that literally is
Speaker 3: a picture imagining full on ID and then just a
Speaker 3: baby face, literally a baby right there.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 4: Well, I had a fake ID the whole time I
Speaker 4: was in college until two months before my twenty first birthday. Well,
Speaker 4: this is the eighties, dude. I mean everybody had a
Speaker 4: fake ID. So uh, kids, don't try this at home,
Speaker 4: because now you'll get arrested.
Speaker 2: Luckily his idea doesn't.
Speaker 3: The one you will actually use doesn't expire, because I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people got to get screwed because
Speaker 3: I think some places, if it's expired doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I know they won't take it an expire driver's license,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so many don't. So many IDs expire, like
Speaker 2: on your birthday.
Speaker 3: It could be the birthday of twenty one, so like
Speaker 3: you go out for the night of twenty one, or
Speaker 3: or some places that don't even take vertical IDs. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: I just turned twenty one, so I obviously couldn't get it.
Speaker 3: So hopefully he's getting his new idea this week. We'll
Speaker 3: say I don't because he actually turned tenty one last Saturday.
Speaker 4: The story that I was about to share just went
Speaker 4: oh no. So I had my fake ID all the
Speaker 4: way through college. I was going to all these bars
Speaker 4: in Tallahassee all the way through college, and then two
Speaker 4: months before I turned twenty one, I went to go
Speaker 4: to this bar, Bullwinkles, in Tallahassee, Florida. If you went
Speaker 4: to Florida State, you know what I'm talking about. They
Speaker 4: were notoriously difficult getting They would take everybody's fake id's.
Speaker 2: But I've been in Bullwinkles a million times, so I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going.
Speaker 4: The girl working the door I found out later had
Speaker 4: a crush on my boyfriend at the time, it wasn't
Speaker 4: even with me, and she took my fake ID two
Speaker 4: months before my birthday. So two months later, I'm going
Speaker 4: out with my real ID and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's my twenty first birthday.
Speaker 4: And all the bouncers were like, dude, you've been coming
Speaker 4: here for a year. I'm like, I know, I know,
Speaker 4: but I'm twenty.
Speaker 5: One now, you'll let you come in. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you, the eighties were wild a rod
Speaker 2: It were wild.
Speaker 3: It was Friday's give me wild, well down down. Still,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for that kind of time you still find it.
Speaker 2: I just I'm never looking for that kind of time anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just and here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I've been watching all these videos and I have one
Speaker 4: of the blog today of this guy.
Speaker 2: I love this guy. I kind of want to get
Speaker 2: him on the show.
Speaker 4: He just goes around and interviews older people in parks, right,
Speaker 4: all of these people some of them are eighty, some
Speaker 4: of them or seventy, some of them are ninety in
Speaker 4: their nineties. It's fascinating because he asked them questions like
Speaker 4: what do you regret from your life? And they're all
Speaker 4: very similar answers, and it's all it's relationships, not stuff, right,
Speaker 4: Like that's just a kind of a sweeping generalization. But
Speaker 4: as I as I'm getting older, like I hear myself
Speaker 4: in these older people. And then I realized, my god, Mandy,
Speaker 4: to other people, to a certain people, you are older.
Speaker 2: It's weird. But the thing is is like as much
Speaker 2: fun as I want you to have, I want you
Speaker 2: to go out and have a blast. I want your
Speaker 2: brother in law to have a blast. I want all
Speaker 2: of you to have a blast.
Speaker 4: Like if you said to me, Mandy, you have to
Speaker 4: go with us, it would feel like punishment for me
Speaker 4: at this time in my life.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 2: It would just be like, why do you hate me.
Speaker 3: I can't do that I be responsible to I mean
Speaker 3: you you asked should there be and will there be
Speaker 3: a responsible adult, and the current plan is is no.
Speaker 4: Well I'm not gonna and I'll tell you one of
Speaker 4: the things that as I get older, I hate more
Speaker 4: and more is super drunk people.
Speaker 2: My tolerance for super drunk people has dropped.
Speaker 3: Track the word right there you used, I mean when
Speaker 3: it comes to tolerance. Yeah, here's the thing. Also, when
Speaker 3: you're downtown, it takes a while to even get a drink.
Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I couldn't tell you last time
Speaker 3: I went out and actually got at all in dogs kady,
Speaker 3: because you wate a long in between drinks. For me,
Speaker 3: my tolerance level is stupid high. So like it has
Speaker 3: to be like at a house party where I'm like
Speaker 3: it's boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, unless you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: going out, it's not gonna be possible. So to answer
Speaker 3: your question five minutes later, I'm gonna probably wind up being.
Speaker 5: The guy back to the bar.
Speaker 4: You're going up to the bar though you're immediately ordering shots,
Speaker 4: like you have to have shots at twenty first pan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even shots for me, like has to be
Speaker 3: one after another to feel anything. Tequilia anything even.
Speaker 2: Tequila nothing El Tequila's Tequila's water to me.
Speaker 3: Oh god, the last thing is Rodriguez. I love tequila
Speaker 3: is like that tasted. I'll like, I'll like, I'll like
Speaker 3: sip it. Not because I'm a baby, but because that
Speaker 3: just tastes good. Well, I like to I enjoy tequila.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean for the brother in law, I'll
Speaker 3: try to hammer them, you know, and try to keep
Speaker 3: with emotions. But downtown experience, you're going a couple, you know,
Speaker 3: like going like ten twenty sometimes thirty minutes between drinks.
Speaker 5: I'm not feeling nothing.
Speaker 4: Say, when I was young and drinking enthusiastically, I knew
Speaker 4: all the bartenders, so we never because all my friends
Speaker 4: were bartenders, So I never had to wait for a
Speaker 4: drink because my bartender friends were like they knew everybody.
Speaker 2: So we would go out and then we had the hookup,
Speaker 2: so I never had.
Speaker 3: A waiting and then too expensive. You know, Well, we'll try,
Speaker 3: we'll see what we can do. I mean, we're all
Speaker 3: just going to be buying shots for him, so doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's all I hope.
Speaker 4: You crazy kids have a blast, but don't start with
Speaker 4: the marguerite. Is man, you can't start with the sugary
Speaker 4: beverage because that's what makes you puke.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we're going to have the We're going to
Speaker 3: have the just lost the name of it. What we
Speaker 3: use right at the end of the night. The liquid IV.
Speaker 3: It's a game saver, game changer. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: we drink and how much we drink.
Speaker 2: Because you're young. Liquid IV. Bang next morning, let's do
Speaker 2: it again. Got a texture, w said a rod.
Speaker 4: Even if his vertical idea is not expired, bars will
Speaker 4: not accept them, even though he's twenty one. He'll have
Speaker 4: to get a new idea or the temporary ID they
Speaker 4: give you to get drinks at bars. So temporary works
Speaker 4: with the vert with the vertical idea, Yeah, I guess okay,
Speaker 4: this person said, trying being an alcoholic in recovery former
Speaker 4: bartender drunk is not pretty? Amen, my friend, Amen, Can
Speaker 4: I just throw this out here? When you have high
Speaker 4: quality mescal, it's a game changer.
Speaker 5: Nope, tried high quality mescal. My dad has some. It's gross.
Speaker 5: What what is It's not so much nonsense? It's so different.
Speaker 5: One's good one's trash. Guess which one is trash?
Speaker 2: Mescal? Mind mescal, but not the super cheap kind any kind.
Speaker 2: But one of the reasons I don't drink mescal has
Speaker 2: to do with that. Hey, just eat the worm. It's fine.
Speaker 2: It's not fine.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, eat the worm.
Speaker 2: It's a bad.
Speaker 4: Idea, extremely extremely bad idea. Now I have another couple
Speaker 4: of things on the blog today that I want to
Speaker 4: get to. One of them super frustrating. I'm going to
Speaker 4: get to you in the next hour about how we
Speaker 4: are now paying for medicaid for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: Now I talked about this earlier in the show. It
Speaker 2: is Colorado Gives Day.
Speaker 4: In just a few minutes, we are going to be
Speaker 4: having a conversation with the Other Side Academy, one of
Speaker 4: the worthy organizations on today's blog that I would love
Speaker 4: for you to consider making a little donation if you're
Speaker 4: going to make some a donation on Colorado Gives Day.
Speaker 4: But also on the blog today, there's a great video
Speaker 4: by Ben Shapiro about Syria and how you know Asad
Speaker 4: Bashar al Assad is now he's gone, he's in Russia.
Speaker 4: His administration has fallen to rebels, and Ben does a
Speaker 4: fantastic job in this video of explaining the different factions
Speaker 4: that exist in Syria and how Syria itself is an
Speaker 4: incredibly important part of Iran's strategy in the Middle East.
Speaker 4: And now you'd think to yourself, well, Bashir al Asad,
Speaker 4: he was in the pocket of Iran, so it's good
Speaker 4: that he's gone, but what comes next may not be better.
Speaker 4: That's that's the point that we're trying to make here.
Speaker 4: And the people, the rebels that actually overthrew Asad are
Speaker 4: isis adjacent some of them, some of them are not
Speaker 4: nice people.
Speaker 2: They are not nice people at all. So the reason
Speaker 2: I bring this up is because this particular situation in
Speaker 2: Syria could have even bigger implications for the Middle East
Speaker 2: as Iran tries to figure out what to do next.
Speaker 2: The thing I didn't mention earlier is.
Speaker 4: That right after a Sod left, because he just took off,
Speaker 4: he went into exile in Russia, and almost immediately Israel
Speaker 4: started surgical air strikes to completely destroy the Syrian military.
Speaker 4: Because Syria had a stockpile of chemical weapons, had because
Speaker 4: Israel blew them up. Israel had a navy they had
Speaker 4: because Israel blew it up. They had worsh planes, they had,
Speaker 4: helicopters had because Israel blew them all up. They struck
Speaker 4: two hundred targets in Syria almost immediately after Asad left,
Speaker 4: and they pretty much left nothing behind because they don't
Speaker 4: want these rebels, they don't want these ices adjacent people
Speaker 4: to have access to that kind of hardware. So if
Speaker 4: this gives you an eight, think about this for just
Speaker 4: one second, just one second. Israel is demonstrated in the
Speaker 4: past six months that they have incredibly high level intelligence
Speaker 4: on Iran, which they struck with pretty much impunity, with
Speaker 4: the Pager situation and then going in and killing the
Speaker 4: leadership of the Iranian National Guard. And now they've demonstrated
Speaker 4: that they had incredible intelligence about where everything was in
Speaker 4: Syria because they went and we're like, we don't need
Speaker 4: to make a map, we know where it all is.
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom boom, boom boom boom, and it is
Speaker 2: all gone.
Speaker 4: So watching what's going to happen next in Syria has
Speaker 4: implications for Israel, it has implications for Iran, it has
Speaker 4: implications for the entire Middle East. Plus we've got Donald
Speaker 4: Trump coming into office, and I love the fact that
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is viewed by the.
Speaker 2: Rest of the world as kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: Because you don't necessarily strike at people that you think
Speaker 4: are kind of crazy because you don't know how they're
Speaker 4: going to spawn. By the way, Rod, I forgot to
Speaker 4: say this about our trip to Europe. Not a single
Speaker 4: person asked me about the election or talked about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and last year we went to Switzerland, it was
Speaker 2: a big topic of conversation.
Speaker 4: So I guess they're all like, well, we got Trump
Speaker 4: again and we'll see what happens there. So great video
Speaker 4: if you want to know about the ins and outs
Speaker 4: of the entire region. Ben Shapiro does a phenomenal job
Speaker 4: including maps and charts, maps and charts in this video,
Speaker 4: so go watch that so you can at least have
Speaker 4: an educated viewpoint of what's happening in the Middle East,
Speaker 4: because like it or not, we're involved now. The Biden administration,
Speaker 4: of course, was not involved at all with the fall
Speaker 4: of Syria, because you may remember, the last big bold
Speaker 4: move an administration took from over here was if you
Speaker 4: use chemical weapons, that's a red line we won't accept.
Speaker 4: And then Syria you used chemical weapons and Obama didn't
Speaker 4: do anything. So whatever it's fine, it's fine. In the
Speaker 4: next hour, we're going to talk about two things that
Speaker 4: have to do with the Denver City Council. One that
Speaker 4: has to do with not just the Denversity Council. The
Speaker 4: first one medicaid for illegal immigrants. And two, the Denversity
Speaker 4: Council is defending an organization that, in my mind is
Speaker 4: a taxpayer needs to be shut down until they open
Speaker 4: their books. We'll talk about all that, but first, my
Speaker 4: friends from the Other Side Academy are up next.
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Speaker 4: Gives Day. This is the day where if you have
Speaker 4: a little extra scratch laying around and you want to
Speaker 4: give it to an organization that does great work. I
Speaker 4: have conveniently provided you some options. Now, of course, you
Speaker 4: don't have to choose my options. If you have a
Speaker 4: charity that's near and dear to your heart, please give
Speaker 4: money to them. But if you'd like to give some
Speaker 4: money away, but you're not quite sure. The organizations that
Speaker 4: I have on my blog are two things for the
Speaker 4: most part that you are either helping keep Colorado as
Speaker 4: free as possible, or they are helping veterans, or they
Speaker 4: are helping people get out of the depths of addiction.
Speaker 4: And one of those organizations is called the Other Side Academy.
Speaker 4: And joining me now is a guy you may have
Speaker 4: heard the last time he was on the show, Bill,
Speaker 4: a caller to the show several years ago, was at
Speaker 4: rock bottom, as they say, And I said, Bill, you
Speaker 4: got to go to the Other Side of Academy. And
Speaker 4: then we hung up the phone call. And I was
Speaker 4: pretty sure Bill wasn't going to go to the Other
Speaker 4: Side Academy.
Speaker 2: But low and behold, he went.
Speaker 4: To the Other Side Academy. And now is a successful
Speaker 4: Are you full graduate now?
Speaker 2: Bill?
Speaker 8: Not yet?
Speaker 2: I graduate in May in May a master student.
Speaker 4: You're a master student at the Other Side Academy. And
Speaker 4: joining me also is Keith. Now, Keith, what is your
Speaker 4: Where's your role? Get right on that mic, Where's your role?
Speaker 4: At the Other Side Academy.
Speaker 6: I'm the same as Bill. I'm a master student. Yep,
Speaker 6: we work together in the warehouse.
Speaker 2: So how did you end up at the Other Side.
Speaker 6: I was just a decade long drug addict, very bottom
Speaker 6: of the barrel, drug addict, homeless, out of options. I've
Speaker 6: gotten to numerous rehabs, and I have enough of a
Speaker 6: ability that I could talk my way out of any rehab.
Speaker 2: I was really you, im good at rehabbing.
Speaker 6: I was really really good at it. I could tell
Speaker 6: I can tell you. I can tell anybody anything they
Speaker 6: want to hear, right. So for me, it was going
Speaker 6: to have to be something drastically different, something free because
Speaker 6: I'd run out of any kind of financial options.
Speaker 2: Right, and something where I was going.
Speaker 6: To be held accountaboint and something where I was just
Speaker 6: gonna have to learn a completely new way of life.
Speaker 2: Because the way I'd been living for a decade didn't
Speaker 2: work for me.
Speaker 4: And I had the opportunity very recently to go and
Speaker 4: speak to the participants at the Other Side Academy. And
Speaker 4: this program is so incredibly cool and powerful, and I
Speaker 4: want to kind of speak to what you just said there, Keith.
Speaker 2: What made this different? Why did this stick well for
Speaker 2: someone like me.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a master manipulator, and I'm a master
Speaker 6: at believing my own dishonesty. My main core issue was dishonesty,
Speaker 6: and so it took me being in a program where
Speaker 6: I was going to be held accountable by fifty other
Speaker 6: master manipulators who could spot every tell I had that
Speaker 6: I was bessing or that I wasn't being completely truthful.
Speaker 6: It took that kind of peer accountability to really get
Speaker 6: me to take a look at what was really going
Speaker 6: on with me. Because I can tell you if I
Speaker 6: was one on one with a therapist, I can say
Speaker 6: the most beautiful things about.
Speaker 2: Freud Nietzsche, and I could tell everything they want to hear.
Speaker 6: But it was when I was with someone like Bill,
Speaker 6: someone who'd been on the streets, who was an addict,
Speaker 6: who knew how to gain the system, and he could tell, hey,
Speaker 6: you're not being completely forthcoming right now, that was the
Speaker 6: only thing that could work for me. I was so
Speaker 6: far gone, my moral compass had completely degenerated. I had
Speaker 6: no semblance of any kind of honesty with myself or others.
Speaker 6: And it wasn't until I was in a facility with
Speaker 6: a bunch of other dishonest.
Speaker 2: People that I was able to really see that and
Speaker 2: start to work on it.
Speaker 4: We were talking when I was there about certain things
Speaker 4: in the program that I found fascinating, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to ask you about this bill, the notion that you
Speaker 4: guys have meetings where people can say you did something
Speaker 4: wrong and you're not allowed to respond. You just have
Speaker 4: to sit and take it. But the reason for doing
Speaker 4: that is to force that kind of accountability that Keith
Speaker 4: is talking about. Is that the kind of thing that
Speaker 4: makes the other side Academy work? And is that the
Speaker 4: kind of thing that really truly changes behavior?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 7: Yes, it is, because a lot of times we want
Speaker 7: to fight back somebody's telling us something, excuse me, We
Speaker 7: don't want to believe it, We don't want to hear
Speaker 7: it most of the time because what they're telling is
Speaker 7: and it hurts right and it hits, and we immediately
Speaker 7: want to deflect, or we want to blame somebody else
Speaker 7: when you're forced to sit there and take a look
Speaker 7: at your actions through somebody else's eyes. Because I've I've
Speaker 7: lived my life and I've seen my life through my
Speaker 7: own eyes, and for me, a lot of the stuff
Speaker 7: I do is okay. But when Key sits there and
Speaker 7: tells me, Bill, you did this today or you made
Speaker 7: a comment like this today, and here's how I appreciate it,
Speaker 7: and this is why, and I have to sit there
Speaker 7: and I have to take a look at that and go, okay, well,
Speaker 7: this is something I've done my whole life. Maybe other
Speaker 7: people around me have felt the same way, but they
Speaker 7: haven't said it, either afraid to, or they just didn't
Speaker 7: care enough.
Speaker 4: Or they knew you would be angry in response, so
Speaker 4: there wasn't any point, right, right, Does that kind of
Speaker 4: approach wear down that hard?
Speaker 2: Outer BSL Absolutely.
Speaker 6: Like when you have to recall anything about yourself, nine
Speaker 6: ten out of ten you tell it as you're either
Speaker 6: the hero with a complete victim. Right, So when you
Speaker 6: get to hear it from people, and you get to
Speaker 6: hear other people, multiple people's perception of something that you did,
Speaker 6: where you thought you were either the hero of the
Speaker 6: victim and you were neither, you're actually a perpetrator. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, it's a sobering effect, especially for me, Like
Speaker 6: I would think, well, this person, they don't really know
Speaker 6: what they're talking about. But when I heard it from
Speaker 6: five or six different people, twice a week for a year.
Speaker 2: I kind of had to. I didn't really have another
Speaker 2: choice other than other than to believe that, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: probably telling the truth and that I was seeing things
Speaker 2: in a distorted way.
Speaker 4: Was there a was there a distinct moment, or was
Speaker 4: there a single event or was it all an accumulation
Speaker 4: of this that made you go, wait a minute, they
Speaker 4: may be onto something.
Speaker 6: For me, it was just that I I just believed
Speaker 6: all the rhetoric that went on in my head all
Speaker 6: the time for my whole life about how I thought
Speaker 6: I was so smart, nobody really knew anything.
Speaker 2: It was one I got a group, they're called groups.
Speaker 6: I got a group where somebody looked at me and said,
Speaker 6: you're completely incompetent when it comes to telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Wow, And no one has ever told me I.
Speaker 6: Was incompetent at anything? Right, So when I heard that
Speaker 6: I was incompetent at telling the truth, stung me. And
Speaker 6: I had to take a look at it, and I realized.
Speaker 2: That actually I was. I had no idea what the
Speaker 2: truth was with myself or with anybody else.
Speaker 4: Do you think, I mean, where did all these defense mechanisms,
Speaker 4: Because all that's a defense mechanism that you're describing.
Speaker 2: Where did that come from? I think it comes from
Speaker 2: I mean, it comes from a lot of the way
Speaker 2: I was raised, but it's just a lot.
Speaker 6: Of the way I was able to survive on the streets,
Speaker 6: or the way that I was able to just do
Speaker 6: everything my whole life.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to put a lot of effort in.
Speaker 6: I could talk my way out of anything, and when
Speaker 6: somebody would confront me with something ugly, I had the
Speaker 6: ability to tell myself something that I believed and then
Speaker 6: tell them whatever they wanted to hear. Right, I have
Speaker 6: some severe codependency issues where I don't really care how
Speaker 6: I'm doing inside. I care more or less what you
Speaker 6: think I'm.
Speaker 2: Doing right, how I look, I sound, how you're fronting, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6: So for me, my defense mechanism is, let's just push
Speaker 6: off what actually didn't. Let's make myself sound good or
Speaker 6: look good in that moment. So the other side, academy
Speaker 6: is a commitment. How many months are is the program?
Speaker 6: How long are people there?
Speaker 8: Thirty months, two and a half years.
Speaker 2: And they commit to living there? Being there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we live together, we work together, we eat together.
Speaker 7: You know, we you know, we get to know each other,
Speaker 7: probably better than most of our families know each other
Speaker 7: from constantly being around each other, being in the groups,
Speaker 7: and seeing the behaviors, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 7: We see it all. We see all of it, you know,
Speaker 7: because people come in there and when we're like everybody,
Speaker 7: they come in there, they want to put that front up.
Speaker 7: But as you stay there, you know, the real youth
Speaker 7: starts showing and those behaviors start showing, and people point
Speaker 7: that out to you.
Speaker 2: But it's I mean, it's it's a family.
Speaker 8: We were a family.
Speaker 5: I've have brothers and sisters.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I like about the Other
Speaker 4: Side Academy is immediately as soon as people come in
Speaker 4: they immediately start participating in the financial side of things.
Speaker 4: So you guys have the moving company, you have the
Speaker 4: furniture to teach. So people are actively engaged in in
Speaker 4: supporting the Other Side Academy as they are benefiting from
Speaker 4: the Other Side Academy. But this is an expensive program.
Speaker 4: You guys have a beautiful space. You've got another house
Speaker 4: coming up for women, which is something I want to
Speaker 4: talk about because we had stepped inver On earlier.
Speaker 2: They don't accept women. The other side, academy does accept women. Yes.
Speaker 2: Do we have a women's house as well, Yes.
Speaker 10: We do.
Speaker 2: I will say this.
Speaker 5: You have to go in sober, yes, And.
Speaker 4: You have to have an interview process, which sounds terrifying.
Speaker 4: I mean it sounds terrifying.
Speaker 5: It's rigorous.
Speaker 7: We're going to point some it's older students that are
Speaker 7: going to interview you. When you come in and sit
Speaker 7: on the bench. Myself and Keith are interviewers, and we're
Speaker 7: gonna we're gonna poke the front right. We're going to
Speaker 7: ask you about yourself and we're gonna tell you some
Speaker 7: things about yourself that you probably don't want to hear,
Speaker 7: but there's a reason for it. And we're also going
Speaker 7: to make sure that you're a right fit for us,
Speaker 7: and we're a right fit for you, because we're not
Speaker 7: gonna let anybody that's prone to violence come inside the
Speaker 7: house or anything like that. That's never happened in our
Speaker 7: house since not tolerated. But we just want to make
Speaker 7: sure that you're the right fit and you want help,
Speaker 7: because you have to actually want that.
Speaker 4: And to be clear, you know, Step has a lot
Speaker 4: of guys off the streets, but you guys have a
Speaker 4: lot of people that are into versionary programs, so they
Speaker 4: have the option of going through treatment or being incarcerated,
Speaker 4: and that's a big motivator.
Speaker 2: But you still have to say, we're not gonna put
Speaker 2: up with violence or any of that stuff.
Speaker 7: A lot of the guys though, when they come in,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people that come in there just
Speaker 7: to beat a sentence.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: We have a lot of people now that you know,
Speaker 7: after the two and a half years is over, Like myself,
Speaker 7: I'm committed to stay in a third year. Keith is
Speaker 7: committed to staying a third year to give back. You
Speaker 7: have a lot of people that once they embrace the
Speaker 7: program and they see the changes in them, the bridges
Speaker 7: that they're rebuilding with their family, they are truly invested
Speaker 7: in it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this program is amazing.
Speaker 4: It is doing incredible work right here in Denver at
Speaker 4: a place in time when.
Speaker 2: We need it desperately. If you have a little extra
Speaker 2: money to throw at the Other Side Academy, I put
Speaker 2: a link to their Colorado Gives a page on the
Speaker 2: blog today, or you can go to Colorado Gives dot
Speaker 2: or search the Other Side Academy and give him your money.
Speaker 4: Bill and Keith, thanks for coming in today. I really
Speaker 4: appreciate it. All right, we'll be right back. I did
Speaker 4: put a list of great organizations. If you don't know
Speaker 4: who to donate to, or you're not sure what you
Speaker 4: want to donate, please check him out on the blog
Speaker 4: today at mandy'sblog dot com.
Speaker 2: Because it's a great day to give. There's matching funds available.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of reasons to give through the Colorado
Speaker 4: Gives website, so check that out.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I have this text message, and I got to.
Speaker 4: Thank my colleague Michael Brown for bringing this story to
Speaker 4: my attention because I did not see it but recently,
Speaker 4: and I've mentioned this on the show, although I haven't
Speaker 4: gone into super detail. I had to sponsor my friend's
Speaker 4: husband to get his permanent green card here. He's been
Speaker 4: in the United States for years, he has a job,
Speaker 4: he pays his own way. The only reason I'm bringing
Speaker 4: this up again is they made me promise to be
Speaker 4: financially responsible for him until he becomes a citizen, because
Speaker 4: they to make sure he is not going to live
Speaker 4: off the government.
Speaker 2: Teat Okay, great and admirable goal, but it brings.
Speaker 4: Us to the story in from CBS four starting January first,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, a new law will help children and
Speaker 4: pregnant moms get health coverage no matter their immigration status.
Speaker 4: The program, called Coverall Coloradin's, makes state Medicaid available for
Speaker 4: prenatal and postpartum care and covers physical, dental, vision, and
Speaker 4: mental health.
Speaker 2: Care for children.
Speaker 4: Now this is again, you don't want little children to
Speaker 4: go without medical coverage. You don't want pregnant moms to
Speaker 4: not be able to get prenatal care. You don't want
Speaker 4: any of these things. But here's the big butt that
Speaker 4: I have. We talked yesterday about how much Medicaid is
Speaker 4: sucking up of the state budget because they've expanded it
Speaker 4: to cover people that I don't believe should be covered,
Speaker 4: people that have more money than they should. They should
Speaker 4: be the exchange, they should get subsidized coverage. But now
Speaker 4: we're going to cover illegal immigrants. At the same time,
Speaker 4: I had to sponsor my friend so he would not
Speaker 4: become a public charge.
Speaker 2: That's the word. The public charge rule.
Speaker 4: Specifies that a US citizen and Immigration services officer may
Speaker 4: deny a person admission to the United States if they
Speaker 4: deem the person is likely to become dependent on certain
Speaker 4: government benefits in the future, which would make them a
Speaker 4: public charge. Now, according to the woman who is signing
Speaker 4: illegal immigrants up for Medicaid, she said, based on current
Speaker 4: Colorado state laws, they protect the privacy of the clients
Speaker 4: that are applying for these public benefits.
Speaker 2: The state says that not only is.
Speaker 4: Privacy protected, the benefits don't present a public charge challenge. Now,
Speaker 4: I'd like to know how putting someone on a government
Speaker 4: program isn't a public charge. This kind of inconsistency in
Speaker 4: the immigration system is making me absolutely crazy, and now
Speaker 4: I just wanted you to be crazy about it too.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about this and another move by the city
Speaker 4: council to protect an organization that I support their mission,
Speaker 4: but their lack of transparency not cool.
Speaker 2: I'll share that next.
Speaker 5: Put respect on Thanksgiving nor Yes, and my friend.
Speaker 4: Greg made the best spot of Apple music Christmas list.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 4: He sent it to me and I was like, there's
Speaker 4: so few things I would add to this. Your heart
Speaker 4: it is to find someone that has the same Christmas
Speaker 4: music taste as you do. It's really challenging.
Speaker 2: Chuck just goes along with my Christmas music taste that
Speaker 2: he likes Christmas music but I love Christmas music. Years ago,
Speaker 2: I used to play Christmas music as rejoins the entire
Speaker 2: month after Thanksgiving leading up to December.
Speaker 5: But it was too much work and I will never
Speaker 5: allow that.
Speaker 2: I know, because you do you do.
Speaker 3: Today was the day I made the proclamation, though, like
Speaker 3: I've got the sweater on, I'm listening to the music hardcore,
Speaker 3: like I haven't you.
Speaker 2: Got Christmas shopping?
Speaker 3: No, because we're not gonna do much because all the
Speaker 3: people that are going to get each other we're gonna
Speaker 3: go to go to Mexico for Christmas, so we're not
Speaker 3: gonna that's the gift for all of ourselves.
Speaker 4: Well, uh, you know, we're not seeing the kids this year, like,
Speaker 4: so we'll ship them their Christmas presents and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And I'm not at the point in my life where
Speaker 4: I am struggling for anything for like a Christmas list.
Speaker 4: My Christmas list essentially is the stuff I would normally
Speaker 4: buy from Amazon already, but I just put it on
Speaker 4: a wish list and I'm leaving it there until the
Speaker 4: day after Christmas, when I will probably order.
Speaker 3: All of it because no one will buy it for me. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get in the spirit first, which
Speaker 3: is what today's This is a weird year. It's gone
Speaker 3: so fast. It does not all feel like Christmas season
Speaker 3: to me. Little snow on the ground last, nothing is
Speaker 3: making me feel like it. So I'm trying everything I can.
Speaker 3: I'm pulling out all the stops to try to get
Speaker 3: the spirit. I'm feeling a little feeling a little bit today.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe tomorrow we should I should bring in like
Speaker 4: a simmering pot where we can do like orange slices
Speaker 4: and some cinnamon, and we'll just we'll stink the whole
Speaker 4: joint up with Christmas.
Speaker 5: This smells help. I think we'll candle at home tonight,
Speaker 5: try to because we got some Christmas ones.
Speaker 2: Like you got some spruce pine type whatever works.
Speaker 5: This year's gone.
Speaker 10: I like that.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to.
Speaker 4: Burn a pine scented candle in the middle of summer.
Speaker 4: I'm i I'll go rogue.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 5: But you're an animal.
Speaker 2: I know you're a wild wild I haven't watched any
Speaker 2: Christmas movies though yet.
Speaker 5: We just did Elf did Polar Express.
Speaker 2: See, Okay, let me just say this.
Speaker 3: ELF is number one in one. A is a year
Speaker 3: without a Santa Claus Express.
Speaker 2: Is top three. I don't like the animation.
Speaker 5: Did you know almost every single actor and that is
Speaker 5: Tom Hanks the.
Speaker 2: Child I know, I don't. I don't like the animation.
Speaker 3: Well you're what I called nuts. Home Alone is up there, Diehards.
Speaker 3: Not a Christmas movie, so stop it?
Speaker 2: What about Arthur Christmas? Are you familiar? A great movie?
Speaker 5: Ever seen?
Speaker 2: Challenge? You watch that movie?
Speaker 5: It's a is it Arthur the TV show?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's It's Arth for Christmas? Okay, totally different Arthur?
Speaker 7: What is that?
Speaker 2: What is that Arthur animal?
Speaker 5: What is it an ark?
Speaker 2: Is it an art ark?
Speaker 5: I believe?
Speaker 2: Isn't it a long enough nose?
Speaker 5: Home Alone's in there? For sure, there's a there's a
Speaker 5: there's a solid rotation.
Speaker 4: You know what I just watched not too long ago,
Speaker 4: not in part of Christmas, but just oh no, maybe
Speaker 4: we watched this? Where did we just watch the Santa
Speaker 4: Claus with Tim Allen?
Speaker 5: It's a good movie, A good one. Not as much.
Speaker 2: The second one's okay. The third what's the one with
Speaker 2: Martin Short? I hate that one?
Speaker 3: That one?
Speaker 5: And then there's also the Evil Santa Claus opel Gang
Speaker 5: or what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like that one, So you're right. Maybe
Speaker 2: the Jim Carreys.
Speaker 5: Jim Carrey, Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2: You're not Christmas family absolutely, Leo yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Nothing makes you feel more alone at Christmas than Christmas
Speaker 4: music when.
Speaker 2: You are alone.
Speaker 4: Let me just say this, if you're alone at Christmas.
Speaker 4: First of all, I'm sorry if you don't want to
Speaker 4: be alone at Christmas, but don't let the Christmas music
Speaker 4: bring you down.
Speaker 2: Let it bring you up.
Speaker 4: Put on a little brandi ly rocking around the Christmas
Speaker 4: tree and listen to her curse about Pie.
Speaker 2: It'll make you happy.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I can't watch, and I can't
Speaker 3: watch it at Halloween either. You're here with that as
Speaker 3: Santa Claus the night before Christmas. It feels weird at
Speaker 3: both holidays.
Speaker 2: It feels out of place at both holidays. I'm pro
Speaker 2: with you on that. But I will watch it in.
Speaker 3: Like March, yeah, any time of year, except ironically for
Speaker 3: the two holidays, because it has both.
Speaker 5: It's weird.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Diehard is not a Christmas movie, says this
Speaker 4: texture and Polar Express is weird.
Speaker 2: The animation in that movie is weird.
Speaker 5: Okay. Do you you know what you need to do yourself?
Speaker 3: A favor fight through the animation because I'm telling you
Speaker 3: you forgot how much heart there is in that and
Speaker 3: you will.
Speaker 5: You will almost cry.
Speaker 3: The story is.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, The story's great. I cannot watch the animation.
Speaker 5: But Tom Hanks at his best.
Speaker 2: I know he does every damn role in that movie.
Speaker 2: I know he does the kid another.
Speaker 4: Texter or the animation and Polar Express is one hundred
Speaker 4: percent creepy.
Speaker 5: No it's not.
Speaker 8: Yes, it is.
Speaker 3: No in the heart of it about Oh, you have
Speaker 3: to watch Klaus it's animated nteen.
Speaker 2: I just read about that today.
Speaker 4: I came out on Netflix in twenty nineteen, flew under
Speaker 4: everybody's radar. But now everybody's like, this is an instant
Speaker 4: Christmas classic five years later?
Speaker 5: So good? Is Gremlin's a Christmas movie?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: I mean no, you can put it in the same
Speaker 4: category as Diehard. It takes place at Christmas, but it's
Speaker 4: not a Christmas movie.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 2: I really want to say this person.
Speaker 4: If die Hard isn't a Christmas movie, then neither is.
Speaker 4: It's a wonderful life.
Speaker 2: Blasphem me.
Speaker 5: I don't hate it.
Speaker 2: What do you not like it's a wonderful life?
Speaker 3: I don't know, But now now I cannot wait to
Speaker 3: finish Elf tonight and then start Home Alone.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 4: I watch Home Alone whenever it's on. Doesn't have to
Speaker 4: be Christmas. Christmas with the Cranks, that's not bad. Mandy
Speaker 4: Nott King Cole's Christmas album is Better than Being.
Speaker 2: Is not liar. You are wrong, ACDC need a mistress
Speaker 2: for Christmas? Not familiar, but I'll look it up. Crampis okay,
Speaker 2: So do you know, I mean, do you know the
Speaker 2: story of crampis generally okay? So in Europe we just
Speaker 2: went through this.
Speaker 4: In Germany on December sixth, Saint Nicholas comes and brings
Speaker 4: toys and little candies for the kids. Yep, so that's
Speaker 4: their Santa Claus comes on December, but he also comes
Speaker 4: along with Crampus.
Speaker 2: Who is terrifying. Satan meets Santa and if the kids
Speaker 2: are bad all year, they don't get a lump of cold.
Speaker 2: Crampis takes them to hell. Yeah, your soul is mine.
Speaker 2: I kind of like that better than are Like, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get any toys. Yeah, if you're bad
Speaker 2: in Europe, cramps Is gonna take you to hell.
Speaker 3: If you mean, I'm not gonna answer that question. I
Speaker 3: ask that question, I know the answer. You have not
Speaker 3: seen the movie because it's horrifying. I'm not gonna watch Crampis.
Speaker 2: It's horrifying. Why would I watch that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: That's a great it's it's you.
Speaker 2: Already knew in our history together. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 5: But it's really scary.
Speaker 2: Race Willis himself said it's not a Christmas.
Speaker 3: Movie when I was on with deb Flora, because I
Speaker 3: told her that, and that's true. A director didn't necessarily
Speaker 3: say that it is, but he didn't say that it's not.
Speaker 3: It's got like well, and again my number one category
Speaker 3: is a number one factor is a Christmas movie. A
Speaker 3: Christmas movie does have the spirit of Christmas? Does it
Speaker 3: feel like Christmas? Diehard does not? That is all I am.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a.
Speaker 4: Christmas celebration where people get shot and fall out of buildings,
Speaker 4: it does.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't have the spirit, the feel, the vibe
Speaker 3: of Christmas. That is the ultimate factor.
Speaker 2: Christmas vacation of course on the list.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just hard to watch. God, it's cringey, but
Speaker 5: it's so good. No, I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm saying cringey because of how much goes wrong and
Speaker 3: how badly it goes.
Speaker 2: I am aware that it is the whole thing.
Speaker 4: It's just like, of course, when Clark goes to turn
Speaker 4: the lights on. That is That's one of my favorite
Speaker 4: cinematic moments of all time.
Speaker 3: It's hard to match the cringe though, when Will Ferrell
Speaker 3: goes after comes in the office and goes after Peter
Speaker 3: Dinklish thinking he's an elf.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my god, he says, say elf one more time.
Speaker 4: This is the most perfect text message about Polar Express
Speaker 4: that has ever existed. It's great, It simply says Mandy,
Speaker 4: Polar Express animation is that you ordered from Timu. It's old,
Speaker 4: it's old anime. It's it's like a little too anime
Speaker 4: e for me. I don't like it at all.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 4: It looks like it was done on a budget. Like,
Speaker 4: hey guys, we've got forty bucks. Can we animate this
Speaker 4: movie because Tom Hanks is willing to do all voices,
Speaker 4: but we can't afford it. We can't afford animation, good animation.
Speaker 2: And Tom Hanks, And we're going with Hanks. He's gonna
Speaker 2: do all the voices. But now we only have forty
Speaker 2: dollars of that texture. I ask one simple question, are
Speaker 2: you in need of refreshment? And if so, you need
Speaker 2: hot chocolate just like that. Having the movie it is
Speaker 2: we had a lot of hot chocolate. If the Christmas
Speaker 2: markets hot.
Speaker 5: Chocolate, chok, hot chocolate.
Speaker 4: Come on, if you guys go to the Christmas markets
Speaker 4: next year, I need to know that if the hot
Speaker 4: chocolate cellars also have pepperminte shops, because Chuck would say,
Speaker 4: do you have peppermint shops to put in the hot chocolate,
Speaker 4: and they.
Speaker 2: Would go no, But that's a really good idea. So
Speaker 2: Chuck brought a little flask of shops with him.
Speaker 3: On TikTok made a recipe as to what they think
Speaker 3: the recipe would be from the creamy hot chocolate on
Speaker 3: the Polar Express, and I really need.
Speaker 5: To try it.
Speaker 2: What's in it?
Speaker 4: Do you know with my fancy cocoa that I have? Well,
Speaker 4: there's a couple of different things. There's hot chocolate and
Speaker 4: then there is sipping chocolate, which is like liquid thick,
Speaker 4: delicious chocolate syrup.
Speaker 2: Hot chocolate so good.
Speaker 3: Well, they only let the kids enjoy the hot chocolate
Speaker 3: during the duration of that song on the Polar Express.
Speaker 3: And then they take it away from him, like it
Speaker 3: looks like most cups are like half full and it's
Speaker 3: really depressing.
Speaker 5: But you can take a ride on the Polar Express
Speaker 5: by the way.
Speaker 4: By the way, the Durango silverton a gauge rail rate
Speaker 4: the official They're the official Polar Express.
Speaker 2: They're the only railroad company in the country.
Speaker 5: Videos of them. I didn't know it was the official one.
Speaker 2: They are licensed from Polar Express.
Speaker 5: To go, you should go Tom Hanks on every single round.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm sure they pipe his voice in What
Speaker 4: is Chocolate? Somebody keeps suggesting violent Night?
Speaker 7: What is that?
Speaker 3: I've heard about that. It's a new horror style. It's
Speaker 3: got a god have here. David Harbor as Santa clausa
Speaker 3: guy from Stranger Games.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not doing that. It looks appealing. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 5: It looks kind of cool, traded all.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. If it's scary, I don't want
Speaker 2: to watch.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it looks like John Wick meets
Speaker 3: Santa Claus, which doesn't appeal to because John was terrible.
Speaker 5: What what John's trash?
Speaker 3: I love?
Speaker 5: Every John Wick movie is terrible.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is I can watch violence like that.
Speaker 3: Violence absolutely zero, positively, no substance of a plot. My dog, guy,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on a rampage over four movies for
Speaker 3: five or six or.
Speaker 5: As well, my dog.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I wouldn't go John Wick on them. Terrible,
Speaker 2: just let it terrible, terrible, choppy.
Speaker 4: So your wife Jocelyn, god forbid, and then she dies
Speaker 4: after she gives you this dog, and somebody kills Poppy
Speaker 4: and you're gonna be like, oh, it's.
Speaker 5: Fine, I'm going on, but we don't need movies about it.
Speaker 2: Oh stop it.
Speaker 5: No plot there, there's just rape.
Speaker 2: But what is this? Tom Hanks is a known pedophile?
Speaker 7: What what?
Speaker 4: No, he's not a known pedophile. You can't just throw
Speaker 4: that stuff out there like everybody.
Speaker 2: It's not known.
Speaker 4: No trading places, I would argue. Also, not a Christmas movie.
Speaker 4: You just know it when you know it's the feeld
Speaker 4: thing for Christmases. But Elf is the best Christmas movie,
Speaker 4: and that's not close. ELF's number one. I love Elf,
Speaker 4: but I think there are My favorite Christmas movie of
Speaker 4: all time is White Christmas because.
Speaker 2: It is a classic.
Speaker 3: Again nostalgia. Number one is Year Without a Santa Claus.
Speaker 3: Heer colder. I mean, come on, Al's drop like thirty
Speaker 3: dollars on a on a year without a Santa Claus
Speaker 3: sweatshirt this morning and.
Speaker 2: Right anyway, because it's thirty dollars scared.
Speaker 5: But that is nostalgia number one.
Speaker 3: But ELF movie wise is number one, number one, it's
Speaker 3: number One's Will Ferrell's.
Speaker 2: Best work is best work, and that's best. Step Brothers
Speaker 2: is damn good.
Speaker 5: Elf.
Speaker 2: I would say, yes, okay, lost all credibility. J W
Speaker 2: is awesome. Who's JW? What movie we're we talking about?
Speaker 11: J W?
Speaker 8: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: John Way, oh, John Wick? Yeah, trash No, it's not
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 5: I've seen trash more appealing.
Speaker 2: Jack's on my side.
Speaker 3: Hey, everyone has has an ability to be wrong. You
Speaker 3: guys are both exercising.
Speaker 2: That's not a Christmas movie. No, it's not best Christmas movie.
Speaker 4: Fat Man with Mel Gibson and Walton Goggins.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I do not know about that.
Speaker 3: The animation style, you know, Frosty the Snowman. Those movies
Speaker 3: in the realm are also classics, but not great movies.
Speaker 2: This person said.
Speaker 4: Polar Express was a very early computer animation. It's the
Speaker 4: best they could do at the time.
Speaker 5: Like I said, yes it is.
Speaker 2: They had forty bucks left for the animation.
Speaker 4: They used to Apple original Apple computer to do it all.
Speaker 2: Being with that much high quality, they were able to
Speaker 2: do it of that good a movie.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm telling you that animation is just strange.
Speaker 4: It's just really really strange. And to the person who
Speaker 4: said Bruce Willis has de menia, of course Diehard is
Speaker 4: a Christmas movie, stop that. That's not nice, not nice
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 2: Anyway. I did not mean to go down the Christmas movie.
Speaker 4: And I've wasted the last segment of the show, which
Speaker 4: is fine, because let's face it, we're in that time
Speaker 4: of December where.
Speaker 2: If you're at work right now, you're kind of mailing
Speaker 2: it in, right, I mean, aren't we? I mean you,
Speaker 2: not me. I'm not mailing. I never mail it in.
Speaker 4: I bring it one hundred percent every single time. Now,
Speaker 4: this person makes a point. If Diehard is a Christmas movie,
Speaker 4: so is lethal weapon, which is why Diehard is not
Speaker 4: a Christmas movie, nor is leth a weapon.
Speaker 2: Mandy, did you have the bread filled with cheese on
Speaker 2: your trip? I did not.
Speaker 4: Find the fondue sandwich as they call it. But trust me,
Speaker 4: I did not lack for snacks on this trip.
Speaker 3: Vienna.
Speaker 4: Christmas Markets win for the snack department. They have this
Speaker 4: Austrian flatbread where they take like a pita dough and
Speaker 4: then they put it on a grill and then they
Speaker 4: fill it halfway with fillings and then they flip the
Speaker 4: other side over, kind of like a calzone, and they
Speaker 4: cook it on the grill.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, And yes, Texter, Love actually is very good.
Speaker 2: Is a very good movie.
Speaker 4: Christmas Vacation is the clear winner from this one. Mandy,
Speaker 4: it's Anton. It's my former UPS driver or FedEx driver
Speaker 4: until they changes around.
Speaker 2: I'm still bitter about that.
Speaker 4: How come everyone argues over die Hard being a Christmas movie,
Speaker 4: but no one mentions Lisa weapon because leitha weapon like
Speaker 4: Diehard clearly not a Christmas movie. So there you go,
Speaker 4: and we've already established the Diehard lethal weapon not Christmas movies.
Speaker 4: Grimlins not Christmas movie. I don't know where you people
Speaker 4: are getting your stuff. Frosty the Snowman, of course a
Speaker 4: Christmas movie. Mandy, the best Christmas song, Hard Candy Christmas
Speaker 4: my Dolly partner. I love that Christmas song, but unfortunately
Speaker 4: it comes from uh best little whorehouse in Texas, so
Speaker 4: it kind of gets left behind.
Speaker 2: Sometimes.
Speaker 4: Zach is joining us in the studio. Zach, what's your
Speaker 4: favorite Christmas movie? And you better think carefully because you're
Speaker 4: gonna pick a Rod has one?
Speaker 7: I have one.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Christmas Movief The Red Nose Reindeer? Safe choice?
Speaker 4: Well done, You're practically Switzerland.
Speaker 2: With that choice. You can offend no one with that choice.
Speaker 2: It's just so great. You know it hasn't aged the best,
Speaker 2: but I just love the style of it. Those old
Speaker 2: hate to stop animation whatever. Yeah, but really, I mean, when.
Speaker 4: You get right down to it, Rudolph is a story
Speaker 4: about reindeer being bullied until Santa found Eddie was useful.
Speaker 2: So there you go. Now it's for the most exciting
Speaker 2: segment on the radio of its guide in world.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about, Zach of the day, What
Speaker 4: is our dad joke of the day?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 5: In Germany you would know this, Mandy.
Speaker 3: They even have a sausage made out of other sausages.
Speaker 5: It's the worst of the worst.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, why did I eat a lot of German
Speaker 2: sausage when I was on this train.
Speaker 5: Protein.
Speaker 2: Today's word of the day. Please don't think I'm how
Speaker 2: to pronounce this, but if you have the computer whirl brogue,
Speaker 2: brogue b r o g u e. That's a certain
Speaker 2: vocal pattern, like you have an Irish brogue.
Speaker 8: Is all right?
Speaker 5: I have not heard that word before.
Speaker 3: It is a low shoe, usually made of leather, decorated
Speaker 3: with small holes along the sides of the shoe, and
Speaker 3: that usually refers usually features a wing tip brogue.
Speaker 5: It's like a shoe thing.
Speaker 2: So what is an Irish brogue?
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 8: What is what is?
Speaker 11: What is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know? Brichant is called a brogue?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, man, it's another term for us. It
Speaker 8: is wait.
Speaker 4: The word originates from the Irish word for shoe. The
Speaker 4: term brogue is believed to have emerged from the Irish
Speaker 4: people's rough and unrefined way speak.
Speaker 2: Webster compare this is from me, Webster. Well, no, you're right,
Speaker 2: it is a shoe. But they also called the Irish
Speaker 2: brogue because it never mind. Go ahead. Today's trivia question.
Speaker 2: What was country music.
Speaker 4: Legend Willie Nelson's debut album, I Have no idea, and
Speaker 4: it was called and Then I Wrote. Released in nineteen
Speaker 4: sixty two, the album featured the single touch Me.
Speaker 2: Prior to his debut as a performer, Nelson wrote songs
Speaker 2: for other artists. Think about that that.
Speaker 4: He's going on sixty two years of performing.
Speaker 8: It's unreal, real what ca marijuana will do for you?
Speaker 2: Zach right there, That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: What's our category category today is wearable tech?
Speaker 2: Okay you know what.
Speaker 5: Nope, we're gonna do that. We're gonna do the one
Speaker 5: night next whips. I didn't see Christmas movies. Oh, here
Speaker 5: we go, Here we go Christmas movies.
Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, betted A cumber Batch voiced this Susian
Speaker 3: title guy who wasn't as into Christmas as those were.
Speaker 5: That's okay, I'll get Which is the the Gridge?
Speaker 2: And now we make it? Who are doing good?
Speaker 5: Who is the Gritch?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, it's not great, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: That Ridge fine original of course, still the basketing mind.
Speaker 3: Jim carry Alistair sim is among those who have played
Speaker 3: this Dickenson.
Speaker 2: Andy who is Scrooge cogged?
Speaker 3: Basically, this heartwarming Frank Capra classic is about what's.
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful life. Jack. We're still playing right now, Bud.
Speaker 3: In this film Santa Tell's Buddy, there are thirty great
Speaker 3: and finally, two memorable bits from this nineteen eighty three classic,
Speaker 3: The leg Lamp and what is a Christmas Story?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Jump, you gotta jump in. Okay, you know what
Speaker 2: I got? One last time, I got completely swept.
Speaker 8: So I just had more appearances.
Speaker 2: And I'll I'm telling you right now, the more you play,
Speaker 2: the easier this guest. That's the fact of it. That time,
Speaker 2: I at least had the answers in my head. I
Speaker 2: didn't feel completely You just have.
Speaker 4: To get them out of their mouth and then bam,
Speaker 4: you're just gonna be like ready to go. All right,
Speaker 4: you guys, we'll be back tomorrow. We got another full show.
Speaker 4: I already got questions for weather Wednesday. Wait what we
Speaker 4: have to get this in because I will forget My
Speaker 4: mom just sent me another dad job. What does a
Speaker 4: gingerbread man use when he breaks his leg?
Speaker 5: I don't know, candy game?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're done, thanks, b Rod.
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