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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Sean Brackenridge. Sean,

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welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Vick, Well, thanks.

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Speaker 2: For being here. We appreciate your time. Sean, please give

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us a brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 1: I'm forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Ex military work for the government right now, mainly with

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the military reserves, helping them be medically ready for deployments

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and things like that. Just came off. I've been doing

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this for about two years. Worked as a in fire

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and EMS for thirteen years, mainly EMS as an EMT,

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so I've had my fair share of trauma events over

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the last decade and a half or so, and spent

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about eight years in the Army Infantry. Came down, grew

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up in West Virginia and moved to Texas after I

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got stationed here from Fort Benning, Georgia, and fell in

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love with Texas and decided to stay.

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Speaker 1: Ended up going through some little college.

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Speaker 3: Didn't really know what I wanted to do and ended

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up getting into fire and ems thanks to a buddy

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who went in and enjoyed it so and then I

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got into it, enjoyed it for as long as I

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could until it, you know, physically, emotionally tore me down.

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So decided to get out and try something different and

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take more of a desk job.

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Speaker 2: Now I understand. Yeah, you're in for a long time,

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and of course, thank you so much for your service.

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I really appreciate it. Not a problem, I definitely do. Sean,

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you created lone star cryptid Research. What can you tell

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us about Elsie r.

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Speaker 3: Well just started it pretty much in the spring to

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try to document things I find and stuff out in

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the field. I got hooked up with a buddy. His

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name is Nick Lasoya.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of.

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Speaker 3: A accidental in a sense. We were on a big

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foot page on Facebook and had posted something and he

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started talking to me and he direct contacted me and

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we just started talking and he it asked me if

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I had seen the Small Town Monsters documentary of the

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dog Man Triangle of Texas, and I was like, yeah,

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I think I just watched that just recently. Pretty interesting

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stuff because I just started getting into dog Man earlier, well,

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pretty much late mid last year, I had really not.

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Speaker 1: Heard much about dog Man.

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Speaker 3: I grew up as a Bigfoot fan and having a

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fascination with Bigfoot thanks to the PG film, but just

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over the last couple of years, especially listening to Bigfoot

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Society and Jeremiah talking about people seeing these creatures out

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in the woods that have the head of a dog

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and a.

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Speaker 1: Body of a man. So that captivated me.

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Speaker 3: And then when I met Nick, he was in Aarondese's

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documentary of the dog Man Triangle talking about some of

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the Native American lord his dad passed down from him

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to him from their tribe and stuff like that, and

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we just got the talking and he was like, I

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need a research partner. He's like, would you be willing

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to go out with me? And I was like, yeah, sure.

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So we delved as deep into it as a possible

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because it was out in the area where he lives,

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well about northwest about our northwest.

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Speaker 1: Of San Antonio, which is Lake Medina, Texas. There is

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a hotbed of activity out there.

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Speaker 3: Especially for dog Man, and there has been a few

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big Foot sightings, so they're a little bit rare compared

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to the dog Man stuff.

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Speaker 1: But we've been.

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Speaker 3: Going and spend a lot of time out in the

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areas out there trying to find and clues and evidence

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and you know, things like that, and try to figure out,

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you know, what these things really are, or at least

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educate ourselves. But just both of us have a huge

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fascination with them, and you know, we just get out

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there pretty much every weekend and do as much research

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as we can, floor as much as we can.

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Speaker 2: It's funny most guys, well I'm not going to say

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most guys, but a lot of guys on the weekend,

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they want to head out and go fishing or hunting

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or whatever, watch some football, you name it. But you

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and Nick, you guys head out and looked for dog men.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I grew up around guns and stuff. So my

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dad owns a gun business back home in West Virginia.

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be out in nature. I love hiking. I used to

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pretty much go hiking every weekend I was off, and

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you know, kind of like unknowingly going out in some

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of these hiking areas and not even knowing what's exactly

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out there, and now that I'm more cued into things

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that people see and things that I've seen already, It's

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changed my aspect of thinking about what's out there, and

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it has grown into an obsession now because I just

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want to know.

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Speaker 1: History of these things.

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Speaker 3: What they are, why they are, you know, as much

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as I possibly can. I know that's probably an answer

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I'll never really get the full answer to. But they're

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intriguing creatures, and you know, the ones that we have

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come across so far in that area out there have

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its seemed to be aggressive, but that doesn't mean they

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won't be if they're provoked. So we try not to

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go out and provoke them, but we try to, you know,

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make our presence known, but we let them kind of

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come to us and get to know us in a

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way where we're not aggressive towards them or anything like that,

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because Nick always says that the more we're out there,

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the more they get the our scent, know what we're,

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what we're like, and whether or not we're a threat

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to them or not. So the less we're a threat

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to them, he thinks, the more you know, they'll make

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their their presence known, to us and let us see

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them more often. And since January, since I started going

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out with him in January, we've had around four or

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five visual encounters and about three or four non visual encounters,

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and it's it's it's been pretty amazing so far. I'm

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still hoping for that perfect encounter, but which would be

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similar to our first encounter, but only time will tell.

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With that, if I get another encounter like that, I'm

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pretty sure we will because we stay consistently going out

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as much as possible, and I guess that's why we

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get to have some of the activity we have, because

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other people will go out and they're scared and they

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have fear, and rightfully so. I mean, these creatures are

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no joke. But as with anything, I think if you

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don't provoke them and you're not aggressive, I think they'll

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be fine. I think a lot of the things is.

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Speaker 1: That they.

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Speaker 3: They live on fear, and I think the more you

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fear them, the more it gets them off in a sense,

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or they enjoy it, or they sense it.

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Speaker 1: And love it and try.

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Speaker 3: To extort more fear out of you to see how

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far they can push you. But they're definitely intelligent. There's

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no way around how intelligent they really are. I think

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people need to know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really important element when it comes to

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these guys that so many people really underestimate. It's good

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that you mentioned that after having this mania encounters with.

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Speaker 1: These guys as you've had.

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Speaker 2: Does the anxiety we're off now whenever you have a

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new experience, or are you more anxious with new experience

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as I should say as you were when you had

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your first two encounters.

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Speaker 1: I would have.

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Speaker 3: To say more anxious. It's definitely. There's two aspects to it.

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Speaker 1: For me.

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Speaker 3: There is the great deal of fear of what the

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creature could do to me as a human being, as

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far as being like an apex predator.

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Speaker 1: The size, you know, the speed, the speed is that right?

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Speaker 3: There is what I've finally got to see that aspect

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of it two weekends ago when we had another visual

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and non visual encounter in the same night that that

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created a whole different level of fear now as opposed

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to the first encounter and some of the other encounters

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where they've been steel or watching or you know, just

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studying you. But I do get anxious, I get even

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more obsessed with it with every encounter.

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Speaker 1: I have like I you know, like you know, Rick

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would say.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, be careful what you wish for, and

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I've had I've heard that from a lot of people,

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and I hope that one day I don't have an

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experience where, you know, I happen to be injured or

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killed by one of these things or anything like that.

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But you know, before we go out, we typically, you know,

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pray amongst ourselves for protection.

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Speaker 1: And things like that.

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Speaker 3: I I try to always wear my cross necklace and

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I ask God for his protection. And you know, going

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back to like Martin Groves's uh, you know, his encounter

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in LBL where he said that they were coming up

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on him before he could even move, like to jump

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in his friend's truck. He was talking about how he

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just started praying the Lord's prayer right there and saying

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Jesus' name and it kind of stopped them, at least

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Speaker 1: That felt like he was given enough time to escape.

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Speaker 3: So I do think that there's a little bit of

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a spiritual aspect of these things.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe that they're more flesh and blood

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than what we think.

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Speaker 3: But it's you know, there is a great deal of

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fear when I go out there, but a great deal

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of respect because I know with what I'm dealing with,

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you know, is a very powerful and possibly unhinged creature,

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and you don't know what provokes them to violence, and

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so you really have to be careful with your way

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of thinking, because I think that they can sense a

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lot of different things when you're out there.

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Speaker 1: It's not just you know, your physical.

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try to use that against you and maybe try to

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provoke you because they know there's nothing you can really

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do to hurt them. That's just how intelligent I think

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they are. Even from some of the encounters I've heard

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on your show to other shows, you know, people who

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have shot at them, you know, and hit them, and

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they've basically just shook the shots off or something like that.

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you could have on you to protect yourself against them,

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that if they truly want to hurt you, they're going

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to do it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm one of those typical people.

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Speaker 3: That go out with guns. I like having the protection.

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animals out there can hurt you. There's mountain lions, while boars,

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bears things like that. Not so much as bears there

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at Texas, but we have mountain lions that are coming

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into the area now more than ever.

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Speaker 1: People are seeing them on the hiking trails, you know,

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and there's sneaky.

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Speaker 3: I've ran into a pack of wild hogs out at

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one hiking park that you know. It was a pretty

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intense experience. But you know, I like to have something

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of safety. You know, I go out, I carry two firearms.

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Speaker 1: I carry a.

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Speaker 3: Small hatchet and a machete and a boot knife and

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a regular knife in my pocket. So I'm always armed

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to the teeth when I go out. So if I

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lose it with one thing, then I've got another thing

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as a back up. So I'd rather be safe and

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prepared than not prepared and unsafe, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I do know what you mean, And you are well

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harmed out there. You don't play around. You're ready to

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let the wind out of something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I carry it at least, you know, five magazines for

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my side arm. And then I have a Celtech KSG

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shotgun twelve gauge and it's with three inch shells. I

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can if they put about fourteen to fifteen rounds in it,

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so and I carry some extra rounds on me from that.

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safe as possible. And I carry a medic kit too,

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so in case, you know, one of us gets injuriedes

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I injured, I can treat myself or I can treat

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whoever's with me. Since of you know, thirteen years in EMS,

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so I like to be safe on that level too.

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I always care mary lyndsatic compass because you can't always

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rely on other ways of you know, navigation. So I

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learned a lot of land navigation day and night when

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I was in the military.

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Speaker 1: That was a must.

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Speaker 3: So learn to navigate with compass and using my terrain

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so that way, when I'm out there, you know, I

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don't have to rely on so much technology other than

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like taking pictures or video.

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Speaker 2: Holy cal Sean, when you go out you are really prepared.

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You're ready for anything. Almost if you've had a dog

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mean encounter, I would like to speak with me about it.

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Whether I'm private or on the show. Please go to

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Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. All right, Sean,

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please tell us about your encounters. Now, give us a

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real last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: Well, the first one was around January fifth, third or fifth,

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somewhere in that area. I can't never remember the exact date,

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but it was right after New Year's because right before

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New Year's I went out hiking on a small trail

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north of Six Flags, about a couple of miles north

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of six Flags, Fiesta, Texas. And I was actually surprised

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of what I found that day on that trail because

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it happened across a set of prints, and they were

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these huge five toe prints. And the first one I

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found on the left side of the trail, and from

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the left side of the trail to the right side

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of the trail is about six feet. And I found

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another print, so it had a stride length of almost

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six feet, and it was the first time I ever

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found any prints, and I got so super excited. I

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took pictures, and even though the pictures didn't really do

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the Prince justice has seeing them in person, but that

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trail kind of it's a mile and a half long trail.

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It loops around like a U shape. So when I

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I started falling it around. After looking through the area

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a little bit, I followed it around in about round

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the same about the same kind of crossing line, I

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would say, from the other side of the trail. From

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the loop, I found another spot where it looked like

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there was something that was struggling.

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Speaker 1: That was like a couple of animals. You could see.

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Speaker 3: Where the grass and stuff was pressed down. And then

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I saw hog prints, and I saw those big footprints again.

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And they I didn't have anything to measure them with

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other than a water bottle, but they were about double

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the length of a sixteen point nine ounce water bottle,

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so they were huge, and they were about half the

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water bottle size and with i'd say probably close to

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six seven inches in width. I took some pictures of

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that put my eye wear size eleven boots, so I

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put my size eleven up against them, and it was,

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you know, almost triple the size of my foot. It

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was just insane. But it looked like maybe a hog

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had been uh you know, uh, had a little bit

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of a scuffle with whatever that was, which I think

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was a bigfoot, and I didn't find any blood or

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anything like that. I looked, but it looked like, you know,

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there was a struggle, something was drug round flattened out

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a lot of the grass, and then you can see

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where it was drug up through the tall grass, uh,

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further up into the woodline and gone. So I got

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super excited about that. And I'd already met Nick one

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line at that point, and I told him about that,

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and he was like, well, let's go out this weekend.

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He's like, uh, you know, it's going to be decently cold,

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he said. There it was like, you know, they're more active,

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more active in the cold, it seems like around here.

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And most of the sightings and reports he had gotten

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were you know, throughout the spring and wintertime. So I

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was like, yeah, sure, let me, you know, get some

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stuff together. I wasn't fully prepared for what was about

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to happen that night. I didn't have a thermal yet.

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I didn't have a really good flashlight. I just had

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my firearms from AMMO. I took the best flashlight that

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I had on me, and you know, and that's basically

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all I had really.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't spent a lot of money into any equipment

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just yet.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't know what to expect the

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first time out, and how you know, Nick would play

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things out how he wanted to do things. We we

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went and searched a couple of different areas.

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Speaker 1: There was a.

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Speaker 3: Picnic area that he was telling me about that the

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county blocked off for some unknown reason. But he had

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heard that there was an encounter there where a couple

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was in their car making out late at night or something,

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and one of these dog men came up and shook

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their car and was messing with their car, and they

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had the encounter and took off out of there, and

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then not too long after that, the county shut that

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picnic area down, and it's still blocked off this day.

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It's been blocked off from what I understand, about three years,

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and there's no reason for it to be. There's nothing

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wrong with the area. We've gotten up in there many

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times and there's nothing wrong with it. We can't find

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anything wrong with the area, and we don't understand why

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they blocked it off. And it's next to a ranch,

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so there's a lot of animal activity too.

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Speaker 1: But we went and checked that area out.

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Speaker 3: That night, we went and looked at this other creek

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bed off of one seventy three going towards Hondo, where

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Nick works as a handyman. He has a handyman business

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and he deals with a lot of people and he

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gets to talking with him and they get comfortable with

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him and they start telling him things. So this lady

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told him a story about she could have swore she

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saw a werewolf in the middle of the road on

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one seventy three one night driving the Honda at two

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o'clock in the morning, she had drove up and saw

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this huge, hairy dog looking thing in the middle of

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the road eating a deer, and when she slowed down,

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she said, it stood up on two legs and was

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almost like ten feet tall, and it just like smiled

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at her with blood dripping down off its mouth and

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teeth and everything, and it had these really like bright

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glowing eyes. And she said she got so scared that

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she immediately stopped, turned her car around and went back home.

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And so we went down where that sighting was located.

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There's a big creek bed there that when you look

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at it, it's almost like a super highway that goes

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up to Lake Medina and then throughout Hondo, Castroville and

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all that it literally, you know, is a nice little

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highway to go south. So we checked that creek bid

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We did find some weird prints. I found some big

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footprints there that was about sixteen and a half inches long.

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I found another weird print I still got. I got

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pictures of it. I still can't figure out what kind

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of print it is. It's kind of squared off, really small.

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The toes are really squared It's the weirdest print I've

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ever seen. And it's not very deep into the sand either. Still,

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to this day, I go back, I look at those pictures,

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and I can't figure out what it is. I found

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a few dog man tracks that were about the same

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size as my foot, maybe just about a half inch smaller.

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Speaker 1: That could have been like juvenile tracks.

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Speaker 3: We had some rain two nights prior to that, so

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one of the tracks is kind of washed out, but

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you could still see like three pointed toes up towards

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the top that were pretty close together. And it's still

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a little inconclusive to me. But I saved the pictures anyway,

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because it's best to save as much evidence as you

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can and go back and look at it.

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Speaker 1: Ideally, I would.

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Speaker 3: Love to get a light R scanner, a nice top

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end light our scanner to take out so we can

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three D scan prints and stuff and get a better

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idea other than what my iPhone camera can do. But

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so we found all that, and Nick was feeling pretty

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good that, you know, maybe we'll have encounters. So I'd

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lived in a little bit of fear that night because

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I wasn't for sure of what I would see or

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you know, how my mind would treat it if we

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did have an encounter. But he was like, well, I'm

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gonna take up to the Holy Grail area where you

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know a lot of people seem to see a lot

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of things, and that's the Lake Medina spillway a little

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south of the dam.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bridge that goes over the spillway there,

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and it is by far the most creepiest area to

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be in.

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Speaker 3: There's something about it. It's got an ominous feeling when

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you're there. It's almost like a perfect choke point though

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when you look at it on a map because it

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backs up to the dam. But that's it's basically like

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a you know, it's cliff, got pretty high cliffs on

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both sides. The curious part of it that I don't

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really understand is why, whoever the county that runs the dam,

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I guess they've got that entire spill way fenced off

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with seven to seven and a half foot chain link fence,

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and not just the chain link fits itself, but there's

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razor wire, constantine wire all across the top of that.

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Speaker 1: Fence all the way around that area, like.

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Speaker 3: It's holding something in or keeping and keeping people out.

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But that whole area is one giant choke point and

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it's cliffed on both sides, and there's no real way

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of getting in there. They do have signs posted that

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there's no trespassing, you'll be prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: And that's the only dam I've ever come across that's

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been blocked off like that.

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Speaker 3: And I used to live in Waco before I moved

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to San Antonio, and the Waco Dam, I mean, you

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can hike all around that and.

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Speaker 1: Have no issue with access to it.

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Speaker 3: But this one is the first dam I've ever seen

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I've been to that has virtually no access to it

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unless you're a county employee. But there's never really anybody there.

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And they have signs saying you can kayak or canoe,

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and that's the only access that you can have, but

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there's very little water in that spillway, so you can't

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really kayak or canoe. I mean the deepest that water

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gets is maybe a foot and a half after a

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good rain, maybe two and a half foot, but nothing major.

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So we went out Old Medina Dam Road and we're looking,

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you know, for as much as we could what we

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could see around the truck. And as we were coming

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down the hill from the west side of the dam,

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I had Nick make sure that he was driving extremely

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slow so I can look out both windows. And as

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we got on to the damn bridge there, or the

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spillway bridge, I happened to be looking out his driver's

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side window and I saw what looked like to be

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two large, glowing green eyes.

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Speaker 1: That were super far apart. Didn't look like any animal

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I had ever seen.

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Speaker 3: And I immediately is like Nick, Nick, stop, stop, look

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look to your left. And he saw it and he's like,

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oh my god, and I was like, we put he

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put the.

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Speaker 1: Truck in part. I immediately got out.

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Speaker 3: I walked over the guardrail of the bridge and at

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the distance of me, the bridge is about fifteen foot talls,

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so at that distance this thing was literally about sixty

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feet from us, but from that height, and it looked

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super close, but it was so dark down and there.

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All I could get was kind of an outline of

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the body and the head. But the eyes, the eyes

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is what captivated me the most. I could not take

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my eyes off its eyes. It was like it was

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drawing me in emotionally, and the way it looked at me,

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and when it's when you're close up like that, and

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I know other people say they're like an amber color,

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but this one the color was different.

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Speaker 1: They did change color depending on the distance.

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Speaker 3: Close up, what I saw reminded me of Slimer from Ghostbusters,

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that greenish glow. I'll never forget it. It's like it's

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etched in my brain forever, and it's just how they

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look at you. It's hard to describe the feeling you get.

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There's a feeling of fear. There's a feeling of almost sadness,

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but intent, like it's studying you every movement.

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Speaker 1: And the way it moved.

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Speaker 3: It started to move kind of like at a diagonal angle,

480
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,799
back backing away from me. But it was so smooth,

481
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,559
I mean it was it had no up or down movement.

482
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: It was just smooth, and it.

483
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Moved ever so slow, and you could tell it was

484
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,559
crouched down quite a bit. And the further you moved back,

485
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,079
the more the eyes glowed more of a yellowish tent.

486
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:40,079
Speaker 1: It was almost.

487
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: Uh And even the further back he went in the darkness,

488
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:50,440
the eyes were like two big spotlights and you could

489
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,359
see the shine off the eyes actually shining and refracting

490
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,039
off the water. And that's that was. I know that

491
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:05,359
no animal can do that. So Nick, he got his

492
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,319
phone out and took some video of it, and we

493
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,440
got about a four minute video of the eye shine

494
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,519
the best we could and how it watched us because

495
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:18,440
it moved over to the tree line and brushline in

496
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,440
there and then moved towards our right, and there was

497
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,720
probably i'd say about seventy five yards away at that point,

498
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,920
and it sat there and it would move back and

499
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,160
forth side to side, watching us, and never took its

500
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,799
eyes off of us. It was a couple times where

501
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:41,759
it blinked enough to where you couldn't, you know, see

502
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,359
the eye shine, or either pass by a tree and

503
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,200
maybe block the eye shine, but it kept its eyes

504
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,640
on us the whole time. I had every hair on

505
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,839
my neck standing up I had. It was shaking. I

506
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,079
didn't know what to think. I happened to look to

507
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000
the right of the bridge down the road a little bit,

508
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,839
and I could have swore I saw another set of

509
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,440
eyes in the tree line there, and I told Nick,

510
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,799
I said, I think there's another one watching us over here.

511
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:13,720
And Nick was like, well, I just saw a set

512
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:15,359
of eyes over here on the left side of the

513
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,079
tree line of the spillway, and I was like, great,

514
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,880
So there's three of them, and we have one in

515
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,240
the middle seemingly capturing all of our attention, while it

516
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:32,160
seems like there's two others flanking both our sides, watching

517
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,759
us and not making their presence know. So I was like, well, great,

518
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:39,880
they're strategic. I said, So you got one trying to

519
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,079
kind of lure us out in a sense, and then

520
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:48,960
you got two that's watching us, ready to pounce. And

521
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,240
Nick's like yeah.

522
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,839
Speaker 1: At that point, I got really scared. I pulled my.

523
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: Glock out of my holster and I started to point

524
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,319
it at the one that's in front of us, and

525
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,759
it's like it knew what I had in my hand,

526
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:11,359
because it started backing off even further and further, and

527
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,400
once I.

528
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:14,359
Speaker 1: Put it back in the holster.

529
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: I had almost I'll be honest with you, I had

530
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,119
almost every intent on taking a shot right there, but

531
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,319
then something in my mind told me not to do it.

532
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440
So I put the gun back in my holster, and

533
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,599
it started moving more forward towards us, a little bit more,

534
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,000
watching us. And this encounter lasted for forty five minutes,

535
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,079
close to an hour. It was like we were just

536
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,960
having this standoff watching each other. It was watching us,

537
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:47,920
studying our movements, and we were doing the same with it.

538
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,720
And there's literally virtually never any traffic in that area,

539
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,440
but for some odd reason, right around that time after

540
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,200
I pulled the gun, within those few minutes after, we

541
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,559
could hear traffic. And the bridge is pretty then, so

542
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,119
it's hard to have two way traffic going through there,

543
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640
and it's dark, so if you don't have any lights on,

544
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,239
you could get hit really quick because people do travel

545
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,320
through there really fast, and they're not supposed to, but

546
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,039
they do fly down through there. So we hurried up,

547
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,280
got a Knicks truck and decided to go get out

548
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,679
of there and go check out another area where he

549
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,760
had a client of his who had multiple encounters on

550
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,840
his backyard at his deer feeeder. They were sitting around

551
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,000
his deer feeder at night, watching for deer to come

552
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:34,519
in and then tacking the deer and taking off, and

553
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,679
so we decided to go check that area. I really

554
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,679
wanted to go back to the spillway, but we ended

555
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,960
up not going back. It was about four o'clock in

556
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,079
the morning at that point, and we didn't end up.

557
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,599
We were both kind of tired and exhilarated from our

558
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,920
experience and we just called it a night, but we

559
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:54,159
kept going back and Nick had bought a drone, so

560
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,840
we got back there one other night, I think the

561
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,519
following month, in February, we caught some eyeshine that was

562
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,760
about thirty foot up in a tree and it was

563
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,320
watching us.

564
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: And that lasted for.

565
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: Another forty five minutes to an hour where whatever that

566
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000
was was watching us. It was not enough of a distance,

567
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:18,599
but the eye shine was so bright and so big.

568
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,280
We're like, it's got to be one that's climbed up

569
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,199
in a tree and he is watching us. And Nick

570
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,519
flew the drone over there. And what's weird is the

571
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,760
video capability of the drone malfunctioned for some odd reason

572
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,719
once he got close to it, so he couldn't take video,

573
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,360
but he was able to get steel shots at the

574
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,199
eye shine, and then the drones just started acting funny,

575
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:46,000
so he brung it home and caught it a night

576
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,320
with that. We got that eye shine that night, and

577
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,440
that was a very weird night too, because we ended

578
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:58,079
up getting out there again and went and checked out

579
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:06,960
another area. Then not too long after that, we went

580
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,519
to a different spot in the area that has a

581
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:15,239
small river and a bridge, and we were starting to

582
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,199
kind of notice a little bit of a similar pattern

583
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,960
of some of these areas.

584
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: Close the water.

585
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: Bridge for cover, it seems like, but always close the

586
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,719
water and very vegetative. The foliage was super thick and

587
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:44,239
very dark. We found We found some more prints. Nick

588
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,639
found like, uh, there's a cliff side next to this bridge.

589
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,880
It's probably about one hundred foot tall, and uh, there's

590
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,960
a house that sits up on top of the cliff

591
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,400
that's always lit up. But even though that's up, you

592
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,559
can't see anything on the cliff side, and there's so

593
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,320
much foliage that covers the cliff side. We didn't realize

594
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,760
it was an outcropping of the bottom part of the

595
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,000
cliff there that gives good protection from rain and weather.

596
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,039
Nick ended up going in there. He's like, hey, let's,

597
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,559
you know, come and check this out. So we go

598
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:22,519
in and we found what looked to be like almost

599
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:29,320
a nesting bed. That something laid down a lot of

600
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,519
limbs in one little spot near the opening of that

601
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,719
area and made it into a bed, and it was

602
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,320
big enough to fit, like, you know, an eight nine

603
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,079
ten foot creature just to lay in. And it was

604
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,159
in a perfect area to be able to watch the

605
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,719
entire dent site because that whole site goes back hundreds

606
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:56,360
and hundreds and hundreds of feet and it's what's weird

607
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,639
about is you can't see into it because of the

608
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:03,440
foliage in a day or night, but you can see

609
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,440
out of it very well. It's just crazy. So it

610
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,760
seemed like it was like like you know, a sentry

611
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,639
bed or something like they'd have like one of the

612
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,239
pack lay there and watched the opening to the area

613
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:22,119
as a guard and then if there was more than

614
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,800
they slept further back in there. When we got in there,

615
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:33,360
we were finding weird claw prints, and then we found

616
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,159
small animal bones littered all over the inside, and it

617
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,320
smelt like dead animal and they're so bad that we're like,

618
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,159
this has got to be a den site that they

619
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:50,119
sleep in or something or staying at times. But there

620
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,599
was animal bones everywhere. We took pictures of all that video,

621
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,800
you know, the weird claw marks in the ground they

622
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,920
they that's what's weird to me, because I've heard of,

623
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,480
you know, how their front hands are kind of like

624
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,440
similar to raccoon palls in a sense, but looked more

625
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:16,079
like human hands with long claws. Anyway, you can see

626
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:20,960
these like clear, like thick claw marks in the sand

627
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,079
in there, like they were walking on all fours, because

628
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,960
they can't really if they're that as tall as they

629
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,639
are standing bipedally, that the height in their is not

630
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:39,599
going to do him any good walking bipedals. So we're

631
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,280
pretty sure that, at least in our minds, that those

632
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,920
markings were possibly of their front palls or their front

633
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,039
hands with the claws digging into the sand as they

634
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:58,199
would maneuver through there. We went in there with his dog, Darcy,

635
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,840
and she was acting weird the whole time we were

636
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,159
in there on one of the other occasions, because we

637
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,400
go there to that den site like every time we're

638
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,360
out just to check it out. And see if there's

639
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,280
anything new. We'll move things around too in there to

640
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,280
see if they move items. I did put a trail

641
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,639
camera in there for a week and didn't have much

642
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,800
luck with it. But I'm going to do something different

643
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,400
here this coming weekend. I was going to go to

644
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,480
a butcher and get like a pig's leg, and I'm

645
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:31,559
gonna I'm going to attach it to a tree about

646
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480
eight nine feet up as far up as I can

647
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:36,679
in there, and then place a trail camera about ten

648
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,960
yards away from it aimed at it to see if

649
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,400
we can get any activity of one of these creatures,

650
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,719
you know, grabbing the leg or something like that. We've

651
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:54,639
also wanted to try to use bait bags, putting like

652
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,480
some organ meats and some ziplock bags and poking holes

653
00:40:57,519 --> 00:40:59,519
in them and strap them to trees high up in

654
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,719
spot to see if you know, they possibly come and

655
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:06,679
you know, mess with those too, and place a trail

656
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,320
camera on those. But as we were in there that day,

657
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,480
Darcy was acting funny and we got to a certain

658
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:18,159
point that we heard something and Darcy had she had darted.

659
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,599
Speaker 1: She took off and as Nick was like she's gone,

660
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,840
I was like, well that's not good.

661
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: And right about that time, there's like this six seven

662
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,599
foot tall full of thick grass next to that area

663
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,000
where the water's at, in the backside of that den,

664
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,800
and we heard something graul and shake in that grass,

665
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:50,719
I mean pretty violently, and we were like, okay, tunder roll.

666
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,480
So we slowly moved out and it didn't follow us

667
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,000
or anything like that, So we don't know exactly what

668
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,599
it was. We didn't see it visually, but that growl

669
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:09,320
was definitely something very weird I'd never heard before. So

670
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,039
we jetted out there after that. We've had some Eyeshine there.

671
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:16,360
We've had three sets eyeshine in that area at night

672
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:20,599
where he's messed with. He started flying the drone over

673
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,679
the one set that was like ten feet off the

674
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,079
ground and he was running video on that, I think,

675
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:34,039
and that eyeshine was really watching that drone the night

676
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,239
and the other two was trained on us, while the

677
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,360
third one he was trying to mess with and he

678
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:42,000
I guess he was trying to see if it react

679
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:47,280
to the drone in a way to kind of make

680
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,199
itself known. But it was definitely watching that drone. It

681
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,760
was kind of that was weird experience too, but the

682
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,000
most recent. Well after that, I went to Colorado, so

683
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,519
I went out by myself, which I normally never do,

684
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,159
but I didn't even really get out of.

685
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: My jeep that night.

686
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,559
Speaker 3: Both nights I went out, I went out two nights

687
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,400
in a row, and I had had to pee really bad,

688
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,559
so I got out of my jeep to pee and

689
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:20,760
I peed off the bridge at the Spillway, and I

690
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,519
mean not even minutes after that, I got back in

691
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,960
my jeep and it was kind of windy, and all

692
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,760
of a sudden, this really I mean strong urine smell

693
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,480
come floating through with the wind, and I could hear

694
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:44,519
branches breaking and movement in the woodline around me three

695
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:48,400
different areas, and I literally at that point I was like,

696
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,360
I don't really like being out by myself.

697
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't have to be.

698
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:57,039
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe they're urinating and marking their area

699
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:59,840
because I urinated in their area and they took it

700
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:08,039
as you know, there's something bad. I left out and

701
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,159
I came back out the next night and the same

702
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,159
thing happened again, but I didn't have any visuals, just

703
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:22,280
the smells, And so after that, the sighting has kind

704
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,760
of dried up over the summer, and I started talking

705
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,800
to some people around the area of the spillway and

706
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,719
they said, there's a bunch of caves in that area.

707
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:36,239
So we do feel like they dine up in those caves.

708
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239
They have to have a decent place of sleep that's protected.

709
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,719
So we have tried everything that we can find around

710
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,400
the area, using maps and everything to figure out how

711
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:50,320
we could possibly get down that spill way to do

712
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,920
some more research and to push the envelope, I guess

713
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,760
a little bit more to find more evidence. But this

714
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,239
two weekends ago, we had a super crazy experience and

715
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:09,119
it's probably been the best experience visually.

716
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,079
Speaker 1: Since the first one in my opinion.

717
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:18,519
Speaker 3: But Nick, Rick and I were on there's a road

718
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,440
next to the spillway that goes up into this you

719
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:26,679
know housing area, I mean these lake houses, and they're

720
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,400
they're pretty far apart, and it's very wooded, it's very

721
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:33,880
it's very uh covered and dark.

722
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,039
Speaker 1: Uh.

723
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: No one's out ever at night in that area, which

724
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,079
we find is odd. I don't know anybody in the

725
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:41,639
right mind.

726
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Would probably even walk that road at night by themselves.

727
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,079
Speaker 3: So I decided to pull up in there and park,

728
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,679
and I said, I said to Nick and Rick I

729
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,840
was like, let's just walk this road. We've never done

730
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,280
it before, We've never been.

731
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: Up through here.

732
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: I mean, the left side of the road is the

733
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,719
spill way and the right side of the road is houses.

734
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,599
So let's just see what we can see. And we

735
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,679
started walking the road and we got to one specific

736
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,920
spot and Nick was like, do you smell that?

737
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Is that deer ar?

738
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:21,119
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, deer arine, isn't that strong?

739
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:26,519
And we hit this really musky wall of strong urine.

740
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,559
I mean, it was enough to knock you over.

741
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: At that point, we decided to just keep walking the road,

742
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:39,480
and at different points on our walk, we kept smelling

743
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,199
that urine smell.

744
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: At random spots we weren't hearing anything. And then we

745
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,159
got down to one spot and we stopped and Nick

746
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,079
and Rick were sitting there talking and I kept hearing

747
00:46:57,159 --> 00:46:59,559
something off on the other side of the road and

748
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:01,400
I was like, do you hear that? And they were

749
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:03,480
like what, And I said, be quiet for a second.

750
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,159
Listen right over here to our what would be our

751
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:09,840
you know, seven o'clock, I said, I hear like something

752
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,639
tapping or scratching on a tree. And when we sit

753
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,840
there and listen, you can get You kept hearing it

754
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,280
like scratching and tapping on a tree, and we were

755
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,840
like looking at each other like, well, I don't know

756
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,840
what the heck that is, and it wasn't on the

757
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:29,400
spillway side. So after a little bit of hearing.

758
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: That, it stopped. It got super super quiet, and we

759
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,119
decided to start walking back to the vehicles. As we're

760
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:44,599
walking back to the vehicles, Nick said he saw some

761
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,679
my shine. I never saw it, but him and Rick

762
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,679
saw my shine on the spillway side, and we heard

763
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,199
some stuff moving around in the foliage. As we got

764
00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,400
back closer to the vehicles, we kept smelling the year again.

765
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,159
So we got back in the vehicles and Nick was like,

766
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,760
where do you want to go? Whatever you do you

767
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,559
want to hit up next?

768
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: I said, well, let's go down to the spillway and

769
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:13,480
since it's right down the road, just check it out.

770
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,239
And I guess we'll call it a night, because you know,

771
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,559
everybody's getting tired, and you know, we've been out pretty

772
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:25,400
much all night. So Nick and Rick getting his truck

773
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,880
and I get my jeep and I'm the first one

774
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,280
heading out. So I pulled out and start driving down

775
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,199
the road and I always drive that road super slow.

776
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: Like ten miles an hour.

777
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: I turned my brights on, and normally when I'm leaving Nicks,

778
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,599
because he lives in such a creepy area, has had

779
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:44,559
so many stings out there, I try to record my

780
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,000
drive home on my phone so that way in just

781
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:50,679
in case something would run out in front of me,

782
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,920
I'd be able to have a recording of it.

783
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Well.

784
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: I wished I had put my phone on record driving

785
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:00,920
down that road that night, but I figured since it

786
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,280
was a short distance, you know, less than a mile

787
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,599
down to the spillway, it was pointless to have my

788
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,400
phone on, so I didn't even turn the record on.

789
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:12,400
As we're driving down to one of the spots, the

790
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:18,239
one last spot that we had stopped at. Literally I

791
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,800
got the brights on and I'm driving, and all of

792
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,760
a sudden, I see this tall, lanky creature just run

793
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:32,599
right across the road, and I immediately stopped. The biggest

794
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:38,159
thing I noticed was the coloration. The head seemed pointed

795
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,400
because it moved so fast, I couldn't make out the

796
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:43,679
detail of the head very much, but I made out

797
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,960
the detail of the legs and the arms. The hands

798
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:51,840
definitely reached down past what I would call the second

799
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,239
set of ease because they were haunched legs and how

800
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,440
it ran was like it's like it float.

801
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:03,119
Speaker 1: It was so fast. It was like it floated across

802
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,000
the road. But it was so fast that it almost

803
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:09,960
seemed translucent, but yet you could see the coloration of it.

804
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:17,280
It was super weird. The speed was insane, Like I mean,

805
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,559
I'm a trained shooter, and one of the hardest things

806
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,440
in the military is and infantry soldiers. They hit a

807
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,519
moving target. So when you're hitting a moving target going

808
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:30,320
side to side, you have to lead that target in

809
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,559
order to hope to get a hit. And I could

810
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:36,760
tell you from my experience that thing moved so fast.

811
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,039
There's no way I could lead that target and hope

812
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,480
to hit it. It was too fast.

813
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,559
Speaker 3: Even some of the best shooters I know, I don't

814
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:50,960
think it hit it. The legs were insane. I mean

815
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,920
they were thick but skinny in the same instance, Like

816
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,239
the top parts of them were really thick, and the

817
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,920
small ones were very past The second set of ease

818
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:09,599
were very very thin, like it had like a little

819
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,320
bit of a small tail that I could see. The

820
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:18,320
arms were super lanky and long, and it was running upright,

821
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,519
but you could tell the top of the head was pointed,

822
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:25,039
so it had to be in the ears. I saw

823
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,239
just a little bit of a muzzle on it, but

824
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:29,840
it moved so fast I couldn't get a good take.

825
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,880
But the coloration of it was like an auburn reddish

826
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:40,320
cinnamon type color with the back had like, what is the.

827
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,199
Speaker 1: Name of that one dog that's out there? Rhodesian rise back.

828
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,280
And you notice how.

829
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: When they get super excited or aggressive, they have hair

830
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:55,440
that stand up on the back of their back, almost

831
00:51:55,599 --> 00:52:03,000
like like spiked hair. It just stands up. That's what

832
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:05,920
it looked like on the back of this It looked

833
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,519
like its hair was standing up on its back all

834
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:11,480
the way down its back, and it was a grayish color,

835
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,840
and it just shot across the road. So I immediately

836
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,360
stopped right there in that spot and Nick pulls up

837
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,519
and he's like, what's going on?

838
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: Threw my four ways on.

839
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, one just ran right across the

840
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:33,599
road in front of me, and I was literally just

841
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,000
I was like, I don't know what to think. I

842
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:42,400
was like, the speed of it is what really exhilarated

843
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,400
me but scared me. And they pull up in front

844
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,480
of me, and I got my flashlight out. I'm looking

845
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:51,000
around the area and Rick comes up and he's like,

846
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,719
you've seen prints. I was like, well, it's too rocky,

847
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,800
there's too much rocks here. I can't see no Prince,

848
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,079
I said, look right here, this fin is pushed down,

849
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:06,079
and all the bushes and all the tree limbs right

850
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:09,800
here are all crushed down onto that fence, and that

851
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,000
fence is crushed down, and you can tell something big

852
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,719
just went through there. And we looked on the other

853
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,880
side of the road and Nick found a spot where

854
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,480
it looked like something flew through the trees right there too.

855
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:24,519
So we just sit there and shine the light throughout

856
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:24,880
the area.

857
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,079
Speaker 1: We're looking around.

858
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: Where it crossed over at where everything's crushed down as

859
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,119
private property, so we didn't really and there's a house

860
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:36,800
that sets back probably about sixty seventy yards behind the trees,

861
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,559
but the foliage is nice and thick, and there's a

862
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,800
lot of cactus right there that we didn't really want

863
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,440
to get back in in there and shine our lights

864
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:50,639
and possibly have you know, people in private property shoot

865
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:54,480
at us, because here in Texas, everybody pretty much has

866
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:56,960
a gun, and if you're on their property, you will

867
00:53:57,039 --> 00:54:01,880
get shot, So you know, we didn't want to chance it,

868
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:06,920
but we could definitely see that something big just went

869
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,840
through there and just crushed everything down.

870
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,639
Speaker 1: So what I ended up doing is I took a

871
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,199
chem light.

872
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: I broke it and lit it up, and I tossed

873
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,199
it back in there about you know, seven eight feet,

874
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,119
and I was like, let's just kind of hang out

875
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:27,159
and see if maybe something you know, reaches forward or

876
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:32,199
takes it. We stayed there for about twenty minutes. Nothing happened,

877
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:37,039
so we went down the spillway. So this past weekend,

878
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,800
a couple of nights ago, I decided to go out

879
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,280
with this other guy who reached me on my Facebook

880
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,960
page who's a scientist, and he's very skeptic about dog Man.

881
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,519
He's like, I've never had a dog matter Bigfoot experience.

882
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:52,360
He's like, I talk about with my coworkers, I do

883
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,239
believe that something like that exists, but since I work

884
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,199
as a scientist, I work in fact and evidence. And

885
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,480
he's like, so I hope to find it evidence, and

886
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:03,559
he said, that's what I'm searching for. He's like, it's

887
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:05,719
not that I don't believe that something like that can exist,

888
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:13,039
because I do, but he originally was bailing out for

889
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,400
the weekend, and Rick had some things to do so

890
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:17,920
he couldn't go out Saturday night.

891
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,119
Speaker 1: So I told both of them.

892
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:21,519
Speaker 3: I said, well, I guess I'm gonna go up by

893
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:25,360
myself because after the previous weekend's experience up there, I

894
00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:28,079
really want, you know, I really want to kind of

895
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:33,920
hit that area and just take a look. And I

896
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:35,599
was like, I'm just going to go out by myself.

897
00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:39,679
And then Fernando he contacted me back. He's like, you know,

898
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,159
I'm not going to bail after all. He's like, I'll

899
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:43,960
go ahead, go out with you. I was like okay.

900
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,719
So he met me out there and we went in

901
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,880
the area and we walked around, looked at some things.

902
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,119
I showed him where the crossing was. He decided he

903
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,519
would cross the fence, and I was like, well, you know,

904
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:57,039
it's private property. So I was like, be careful just

905
00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,119
in case, you know, if anybody drives by and this

906
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,639
is what we're doing, you know, we can.

907
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: You know, get in some troubles. It's so just kind of.

908
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,599
Speaker 3: He he crossed over that area where everything was knocked down.

909
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,519
It's still crushed down there and everything and I asked him.

910
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:14,639
I said, I threw a kim light back there. I

911
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:17,360
said it should be right over and there. I said

912
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,000
it won't be lit now, but it would just still

913
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,880
be laying there, and I was like, you know, see

914
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,639
if you can find it. He looked the entire area over.

915
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,079
He never found that kim light.

916
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,119
Speaker 1: It's gone. Something took it.

917
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that creature came back and

918
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,239
took the kim light and thought it was a gift

919
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,320
or something later that night after we left last weekend

920
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,039
or not. I don't know, but I find that to

921
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:48,079
be pretty ironic that that kim light is gone, because

922
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:50,360
I've went to other spots I've left kim lights and

923
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,679
that are been used and not lit up anymore, and

924
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,360
they're there still there after weeks and weeks in a

925
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,000
couple of months, and I I carry a whole bag

926
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:06,039
of those, and I use them as basically gifts or

927
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,760
something like that to kind of attract their attention if

928
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,360
they're around, to see if they'll, you know, take it

929
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:17,079
or or something of that nature. But that one where

930
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:23,039
the crossing was, it's gone. And then thanks to Fernando,

931
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:27,840
we found a culvert that leads down into the spillway

932
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:31,039
that's hidden off the road that crosses under the road

933
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:34,639
and goes into the spillway, and he looked in there

934
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:36,639
and we thought it would be a great hiding spot,

935
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:42,639
but there was nothing in there. But due to that

936
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,360
experience of going out Saturday night when everybody you know

937
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,599
couldn't go, and then all of a sudden, he decided

938
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:50,280
to go. And at the last thing when he decided

939
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,679
to go, I was like, okay, I'll go. And we've

940
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:57,000
now I found us a pretty decent hidden entrance into

941
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:59,079
the spillway that we think that we can get down

942
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:03,639
in there now. So something really good come out of

943
00:58:03,679 --> 00:58:07,960
Saturday night. Kim Light's gone. We found the colvert, So

944
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:12,480
now it's going to be a game changer as far

945
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:14,519
as getting down in there and see if we can

946
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:20,159
get more evidence in their area, because that whole area

947
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,679
is blocked off. That's got to be their home. And

948
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,679
I don't know where it's going to go from there,

949
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,840
but next weekend we're planning on hitting it up. I've

950
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,519
got to talk to Nick and Rick about getting the

951
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:36,119
drone out there taking a look at some of that terrain,

952
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,119
and then we get out there early early morning time

953
00:58:41,559 --> 00:58:43,440
around first light or so, or a little bit a

954
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,920
couple hours after first light and start getting down in

955
00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:49,239
there and seeing how we can maneuver down in there

956
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,360
and see what we can find. They have to be

957
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,760
hiding in a cave or something down there, sleeping in

958
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:02,079
a cave somewhere in that area. But we've started talking

959
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:04,639
to random people. There's a shell station out there. We

960
00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:09,159
started talking to some of them, and these people are

961
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:11,440
opening up to us. I've had three people work at

962
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,039
that shell station now. One the younger guy, he was like,

963
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:17,239
I don't go outside at night here. He's like, I've

964
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,119
seen things that are just weird. And the older guy

965
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:23,599
works there, said he saw some big eye shine around

966
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:27,480
his woodpile in his backyard at night. He won't go

967
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:31,199
out at night. We just met a lady a couple

968
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:36,800
weekns ago that we had that sighting and she and

969
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,280
one of her friends have seen them and she was like,

970
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,159
I don't know what they are. She's like, but I've

971
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:45,119
seen like these huge glowing eyes in the darkness out

972
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:49,719
of my backyard. And she's like, so I literally She's like,

973
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,159
at once it's dark, I don't go out. And I

974
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,079
was like, well, it explains, I mean a lot of

975
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:56,519
people in this area we don't see out at night.

976
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:00,880
It's very rare that there's traffic, but even rare to

977
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,760
see anybody out on their front porch at night. Even

978
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,360
during the summertime when it's nice, no one's ever out

979
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,039
on their front porches, in their yards anything. Once it's

980
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,239
totally dark, it's and everybody's got their houses and immediately

981
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:20,400
the area immediately around their houses lit up pretty well

982
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:22,159
there too.

983
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,239
Speaker 1: So it's like.

984
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 3: The more and more we meet people and talk to them,

985
01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:29,719
the more and more we're finding that these all these

986
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,400
people are having these encounters with these things in that area,

987
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:35,679
but they don't know what they are. And we talked

988
01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:38,719
of sheriff's deputy out there too, who said she was

989
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,639
getting a lot of reports of a bear.

990
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: There's there's no bears in this area.

991
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:49,159
Speaker 3: Whatsoever, but people are seeing a giant black bear out

992
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:54,159
there and reporting it. So we think it's misidentification. People

993
01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:56,760
are not really knowing what they're seeing, but they're actually

994
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,599
seeing dogmen in the area and reporting them as bears.

995
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,519
So that just and there's an old cemetery that we

996
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:07,039
investigate out there. Nick saw it eight foot shadow run

997
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:11,320
across in front of us one night when I wasn't looking,

998
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,440
and Darcy had ran and got in his truck and

999
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:17,159
was hiding and shaking it down his floorboard. So she

1000
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,079
saw something that really freaked her out.

1001
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:21,159
Speaker 1: His little dog.

1002
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: You know, we we investigate that because they're known to

1003
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,039
be around cemeteries and grave mounds and things like that.

1004
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,559
So that's a that's a freaky little graveyard. I'm not

1005
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:38,719
gonna lie. I've never seen anything like it, but that night,

1006
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:44,320
it's super ominous there. But yeah, there's there's definitely a

1007
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,719
lot of activity in the area. It's just you know,

1008
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:49,840
gotta be We stay consistent as much as we can

1009
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,400
and try to get out every weekend, and that's probably

1010
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,159
why we're having a lot of success and seeing some

1011
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,480
of the things and experiencing the things that we're seeing

1012
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,119
and going through. So hopefully, you know, my ultimate encounter

1013
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,239
really at this point, what I'm wanting to have is

1014
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,440
I want to have a similar encounter like the first one.

1015
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:13,679
I want to be able to see it up close,

1016
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,079
and want to be able to have a good light

1017
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,119
and a good thermal and like to get a good

1018
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:20,039
thermal image of it.

1019
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:21,519
Speaker 1: But I want the light on it.

1020
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: I want to be able to see detail, the face,

1021
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,519
the rest of the body, everything. I want it to

1022
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:35,039
be known that I see it clearly. Again, I have

1023
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:38,920
to be careful what I wish for, but that's my

1024
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:42,840
ultimate detail. And the biggest, biggest issue I've had since

1025
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,639
the first encounter is the dreams.

1026
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:47,199
Speaker 1: I've told people about the dreams.

1027
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,519
Speaker 3: I started having nightmares after the first encounter where I

1028
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:56,079
was seeing myself on the bridge from the dog man's

1029
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:59,559
point of view that night. I kept having that reoccurring dream.

1030
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,400
It was like I was in the dog man's body

1031
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,840
staring at myself up on the bridge that night. And

1032
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:12,400
those dreams haven't really ceased.

1033
01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:13,199
Speaker 1: I mean.

1034
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: I have them less frequently now than I did after

1035
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,039
the encounter, but a good two months after that first

1036
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:24,400
encounter it was almost nightly. And then one night, about

1037
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,320
a month after the encounter, I was attacked in my

1038
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,159
sleep by something that felt like it was choking me

1039
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,840
underneath my comforter, and once I said the name Jesus.

1040
01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:38,079
I grew up in a Christian household. My mom has

1041
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:41,119
always said, you know, if you feel like you're being

1042
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:45,079
attacked by evil, you know, always bringing out Jesus's name,

1043
01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:48,280
it will make them flee. And as soon as I

1044
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,400
said that that night, and whatever it was that was

1045
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,280
attacking me or choking me, it went away. So now

1046
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,639
you know, mostly every night I try to go to

1047
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:01,800
bed and I specifically placed on ninety one as a

1048
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:06,760
prayer of protection, and not much of any of that

1049
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,719
kind of stuff is happening. But that's where I started

1050
01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:12,719
to tie in a little bit of the paranormal with

1051
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,639
these things. Whether or not they're these evil creatures, I

1052
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,400
don't know. I do go back to the Bible about

1053
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,360
certain things and revelations talking about in the end times that.

1054
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: God will release the beasts of the earth.

1055
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,559
Speaker 3: And that you know, third of mankind will die of

1056
01:04:32,719 --> 01:04:35,800
fear heart attacks of seeing these creatures. And I've heard

1057
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,039
so many stories of people talking about the fear and

1058
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:44,360
the anxiety and their regret of even seeing these things.

1059
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:48,800
Like I think you interviewed this guy Casey in New Hampshire.

1060
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:56,480
His encounter was insane to me, and how he what

1061
01:04:56,679 --> 01:05:01,239
he experienced was kind of similar to what I would

1062
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,039
like to experience but then don't want to experience. And

1063
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,960
in a way I kind of envy his experience. But

1064
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,880
in a way I don't. I'm kind of half and

1065
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,480
half porn on that because I know those kinds of

1066
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:19,840
experiences affect people differently, and I know it affected him

1067
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,519
in a very severe way. I don't know how it

1068
01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:25,000
would affect me and my mindset because I'm able to

1069
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:29,400
compartmentalize things differently than a lot of people, and I

1070
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,440
have a good, healthy fear. But I also am the

1071
01:05:33,519 --> 01:05:36,239
type of person with my faith. You know, I believe

1072
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,239
in Jesus. All my faith and hope is in him,

1073
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:43,800
and I don't fear much because I know that he

1074
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:49,239
won't allow anything happen to me if he doesn't want

1075
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,480
to allow it, that I have his hedge of protection

1076
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:55,920
around me. So I maybe in a sense I have

1077
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,800
a little bit of arrogance when I go out about that,

1078
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,039
and maybe I should, but that is kind of my mindset.

1079
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: When I go out.

1080
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,199
Speaker 3: There is fear there, but there is also, you know,

1081
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:14,760
that hope and that feeling of protection, and you know,

1082
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,159
so so far it's been good, and so far the

1083
01:06:18,199 --> 01:06:21,800
ones that we've come across have not been aggressive in

1084
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,480
any sense, and like Nick says, he believes the more

1085
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,400
we're out there, the more they want to show the more.

1086
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,039
They either trust us or don't feel that we're aggressive,

1087
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,000
and they show themselves more to us. Nick really wants

1088
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:38,679
to communicate with them. He wants to actually be able

1089
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:41,320
to talk to him in some way. He thinks that

1090
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:46,960
there's like a telepathic connection, and he thinks I have

1091
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:49,599
talked to a couple of people in this field that

1092
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,960
think that maybe after my experience in the dreams and things,

1093
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,280
that maybe there's a telepathic connection between me and this one,

1094
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,599
this one creature.

1095
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it is an interesting theory.

1096
01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: Maybe once I have another good encounter where I have

1097
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:10,360
the opportunity to talk to it and say something to

1098
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,280
it to see if it reacts to me. I don't know,

1099
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:18,039
but maybe one day I'll have that opportunity. And that's

1100
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:19,079
kind of the day I'm looking for.

1101
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: Sure, seems to me like you probably will get the

1102
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,039
chance to have an opportunity like that. You're definitely on

1103
01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:28,119
the radar, there's no disputing that.

1104
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: Well.

1105
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: Having said that, Sean, we're about out of time. But

1106
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:34,960
before we get out of here, please take this opportunity

1107
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:38,039
to promote lone Star Cryptid Research again.

1108
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a Facebook page lone Star Cryptid Research

1109
01:07:44,679 --> 01:07:46,320
it's easy to find on Facebook.

1110
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,719
Speaker 3: It's a red logo with a big Foot holding his

1111
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,119
middle finger up around one side of the Texas flag

1112
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:54,079
and a dog man tearing into the other end of

1113
01:07:54,159 --> 01:07:58,760
a Texas flag. I kind of use the Bigfoot with

1114
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,440
the middle finger idea as a kind of a joke

1115
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,159
about how, you know, people talk about not being able

1116
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:07,920
to find Bigfoot, and it's kind of his way of

1117
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:10,239
being like, Hi, you can't catch me or see me.

1118
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:13,280
But I kind of use that as a play. I

1119
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,199
thought it would be funny and comedic to add that

1120
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:20,640
into our logo. But yeah, yeah, please. I got the

1121
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,680
Instagram too, so you can connect with me on Instagram

1122
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,840
and the Facebook. If you're you know, around the San

1123
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:35,720
Antonio or any of the communities around San Antonio, Kerrville, Fredericksburg,

1124
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:41,800
you know, Blanco Hondo, even up towards Austin and and

1125
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,800
all that area Marble Falls, you know, please reach out

1126
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,960
to us. We're always looking for new areas to go

1127
01:08:49,159 --> 01:08:52,000
and explore and check out and see if we can

1128
01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:57,600
find evidence and even talk to people about, you know,

1129
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,920
their encounters and things like that and if they you know,

1130
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:06,520
need someone that will believe them and sit down and

1131
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,520
sympathize with them about their encounters where they won't be

1132
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,039
made fun of or anything of that nature. You know,

1133
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:16,640
please reach out to us. You know, all three of

1134
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:22,359
us have had encounters and we know what it's like

1135
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,960
to be ridiculed for, you know, see any things and

1136
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,079
believing in them, because Lord knows, I've been ridiculed by people,

1137
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,960
but I've turned some people on now with my encounters

1138
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,239
to believe that there is something out there. So yeah,

1139
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,920
please have you know, come on on the Facebook or

1140
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,159
Instagram messaged me and I'll be glad to talk to

1141
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:44,479
anybody and check out their areas.

1142
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,239
Speaker 2: And for anyone listening who wants to contact Sean to

1143
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:51,800
report an experience, I'm going to post links to both

1144
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,000
the Facebook and Instagram page for LCR that'll make it

1145
01:09:55,079 --> 01:09:57,720
really easy for you to find them. In the description

1146
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,720
for tonight's show. Before we get out of here, Sean,

1147
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,640
would you like to also promote Nick's Texas Hill Country

1148
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:06,640
dog Man as well.

1149
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's also on my page under Texas Hill Country

1150
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,640
dog Man if you like to check him out. He

1151
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:20,199
posts some videos and stuff like that too, and he

1152
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,720
goes out and talks to a lot of people. And

1153
01:10:23,079 --> 01:10:26,479
meets a lot of people. He's definitely had some pretty

1154
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,600
good experiences and stuff like that. And then also Rick Tolos,

1155
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,479
Texas Hill Country Bigfoot. He is linked through us too,

1156
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,880
so you know, if you have any Bigfoot experiences or anything.

1157
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 1: Like that, and you can always reach out to him too.

1158
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,399
Speaker 3: And the three of us work together on a lot

1159
01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:47,560
of the research that we do, so please feel free

1160
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,079
to give them some attention and.

1161
01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: Talk to them too.

1162
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 3: They have different experiences, so it's you know, I find

1163
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,880
it good to communicate and work with each other, and

1164
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,560
you know, everybody has different experiences and we can always

1165
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,039
bounce great ideas off each other and get out there

1166
01:11:07,079 --> 01:11:08,439
and do some really good research.

1167
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: That's really good.

1168
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,159
Speaker 2: Well, having said that, thanks again so much for coming

1169
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:15,720
on to share the details of those experiences with us.

1170
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:16,800
I really appreciate it.

1171
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Vick. You do good for this community.

1172
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 3: It's good to hear your show and listen to people

1173
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,880
come on and talk about what they've been through. I

1174
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,840
know it's kind of hard for some people, but I

1175
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,720
love your show. I love listening to it. It's great

1176
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,760
to hear other people's encounters, and I thank you for

1177
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,520
what you do too.

1178
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,399
Speaker 2: Oh, you know you're welcome. I wouldn't have it any

1179
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,880
other way, but thanks again so much for your time,

1180
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,239
and have a great night.

1181
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: Dams or Pistol English