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<v Speaker 1>My Billy Cunning up the Great American welcome this war.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Wednesday afternoon in the tri State. The weather is terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of inches of snow thither and fro. But

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<v Speaker 1>within a week or two things should be back to normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Red Spaceball kicks off this weekend with Hunter Green on

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<v Speaker 1>the Mound, of course against the Cleveland Guardians and more.

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<v Speaker 1>But until then, the last twelve days a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the media has been captivated with the idea of these

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<v Speaker 1>so called neo Nazis from somewhere in Kentucky having a

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<v Speaker 1>U haul and standing over the top of seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>and marching thither and fro with weapons displayed. And because

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<v Speaker 1>of Brandenburg versus Ohio, there's not much law enforcement can

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<v Speaker 1>do unless they engage in behavior words. In fact, hate

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<v Speaker 1>speech is protected by the US Constitution. On the left

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<v Speaker 1>or the right, these neo Nazis don't represent me, don't

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<v Speaker 1>represent you, that don't represent Christopher Smitherman. They represent nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're small, bigot a opinions. But nonetheless they're causing

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of difficulty. And man with perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>this is the former vice mayor of our city, Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Smitherman and Christopher has been about about twelve days since

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<v Speaker 1>this thing erupted, and all hell's breaking loose thither and fro,

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<v Speaker 1>and law enforcement could identify who they are, I would

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<v Speaker 1>think they had a rent at U haul. Drivers' licenses

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<v Speaker 1>are produced to do such things. Having banners unfurled on

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<v Speaker 1>top of I seventy five makes no sense. The city

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<v Speaker 1>of Evendale could have a time manner in place of

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<v Speaker 1>these so called protests away from I seventy five makes

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<v Speaker 1>no sense to do that. Plus, you have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>or two I understand that may have had someone walk

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<v Speaker 1>up to their car with a gun. Explain how you

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<v Speaker 1>process all this information, Former Vice Mayor Smitherman, Well, Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, my parents were born in the nineteen thirties. You know, Birmingham, Alabama, Montgomery, Alabama, met.

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<v Speaker 3>At Tuskeee Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother was born in nineteen oh nine, lived to be

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and five wonderful families from the South. These

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<v Speaker 2>organizations are domestic terrorist organizations that have terrorized in a

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<v Speaker 2>great way, predominantly African Americans in the South, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have evolved into all kinds of different iterations of names.

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<v Speaker 2>The best thing you and I can do is do

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<v Speaker 2>what you said at the beginning of your show. We

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<v Speaker 2>condemned them. Clearly, they're not even close to the mainstream.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been nice to see Evendale residents, very diverse, coming

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<v Speaker 2>out and saying we're having peaceful protests and they're not welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>But as ugly as it is, we are the great

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<v Speaker 2>experiment the United States of America with our democracy and

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<v Speaker 2>people's First Amendment rights. So the grotesque part of it

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<v Speaker 2>we have to deal with in order for all of

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<v Speaker 2>us to have our First Amendment rights. And the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing that the community has done is just to say,

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<v Speaker 2>as you have condemned it, it's grotesque, and let's just

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<v Speaker 2>keep moving forward. Try not to give them any more

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<v Speaker 2>attention than they deserve. What I am concerned about is

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<v Speaker 2>them having open carry, which is legal in Ohio, but

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<v Speaker 2>approaching people's vehicles, like my friend Eric, who was a

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<v Speaker 2>business owner in the community and was going to his

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<v Speaker 2>job and they approached his vehicle. He also is a

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<v Speaker 2>Second Amendment person. These things can be very, very concerning

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<v Speaker 2>and dynamic, and I think law enforcement has to do

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<v Speaker 2>a better job of separating that. Meaning you have your

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<v Speaker 2>open carry, you're there, but you can't approach cars in

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<v Speaker 2>the street. That's just way too dangerous in the society

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<v Speaker 2>that we live in, and we certainly wouldn't want anything

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<v Speaker 2>to happen to one of our citizens who's just going

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<v Speaker 2>about their way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can loudly shout all the hateful words

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<v Speaker 1>you use, the end word, Nazis, Catholics, Jews, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, call them terrible names out of your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as you walk over the line of

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<v Speaker 1>advocating or signing violence against anyone, then you got a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for those who say someone should be arrested

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<v Speaker 1>for what they've done, I'm not so sure about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is a law called inducing panic, and the

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<v Speaker 1>law says, in Ohio, no person shall cause the evacuation

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<v Speaker 1>of any public place, or otherwise cause serious public inconvenience

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<v Speaker 1>or alarm by doing any of the following, threatening to

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<v Speaker 1>commit any offense of violence, committing any offense with reckless

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<v Speaker 1>disregard of the likelihood will its commission will cause serious

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<v Speaker 1>public inconvenience. Now, and I've said this, and I find

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<v Speaker 1>myself on the same side with the ACLU. I'm normally

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable in that position. But the ACLU will tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Brandenburg versus Ohio US Supreme Court decision, they a

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<v Speaker 1>person can say any word they want to say, including

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<v Speaker 1>hate speech, and then vile way against Catholics and Jews

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<v Speaker 1>and Blacks and Hispanics as long as they will advocate violence.

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<v Speaker 1>And the issue becomes if your friend, the business owner

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<v Speaker 1>who I understand mafier, has a weapon and someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has masked walks up to them with a displaying a

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<v Speaker 1>rifle or a handgun and comes up to the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it, that's getting real close to that point of

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<v Speaker 1>inducing panic. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, But the only thing we can

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<v Speaker 2>do is what we're doing now, you as my white brother,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, me as your African American brother, is just

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<v Speaker 2>to condemn it and keep moving. Meaning this is grotesque.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the great experiment, Bill, and so what separates

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<v Speaker 2>us from Germany. They're going door to door, people post

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<v Speaker 2>things online, repost They're arresting people and charging them with

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<v Speaker 2>being there. We don't want to look like Europe, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the United States of America. And I like

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<v Speaker 2>my First Amendment right, and in order for me to

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<v Speaker 2>have it, I also have to be able to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with these types of groups that are doing and saying

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<v Speaker 2>what they're saying. The best thing that even Dale can

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<v Speaker 2>do is what they did, meaning come out peacefully, community,

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<v Speaker 2>come together.

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<v Speaker 3>So we show the example of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Great experiment that we have our first Amendment right to say,

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<v Speaker 2>we condemn what you've said, what you're doing, what you

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<v Speaker 2>stand for, and then let's just keep moving. This is

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<v Speaker 2>hate will always be with us. Bill tell the tests

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<v Speaker 2>till the end of time. It's never going to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be people out there who don't like Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>who don't like African Americans, who don't like Italians whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they have, don't like people in the LGBTQ plus community,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. There's always going to be hate. The

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<v Speaker 2>best thing you and I can do is just be

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<v Speaker 2>great examples, great Americans as we are, and push forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the United States of America. Anytime you know someone,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear the pledge of allegiance. Are like in Canada

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<v Speaker 2>where they were booing us, by the way, but we

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<v Speaker 2>showed them right two ways. One we had our players

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<v Speaker 2>in nine seconds kick their butts. That's a part of

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<v Speaker 2>America and hockey. And number two, we beat them three

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<v Speaker 2>to one while their Prime Minister was watching. So they

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<v Speaker 2>have the right to boo. We have the right to win,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's what we have to do, just keep

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<v Speaker 2>winning in this country. And that's why so many people

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<v Speaker 2>want to come here, and we're not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you were a lawmaker for many years,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the ability in city council to have a

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<v Speaker 1>location for protest, much like you have a location for

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<v Speaker 1>porn shops. You could say, okay, you're gonna have strip clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't prohibit strip clubs. You can't prohibit porn, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be way over there. City of Evendale

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<v Speaker 1>and Lincoln Heights has the power to say, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>can protest. You're gonna have your First Amendment hate speech privileges,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can't be near a school, and it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be over the top of I seventy five. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be over there. And then the manner and time

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<v Speaker 1>and mode of protest can be governed a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>by the government, but it can't be prohibited. And for

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<v Speaker 1>those who say, you know, the police ought to do something, Evendale,

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Heights, the FBI, Hamley County Sheriff, whatever they investigate

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<v Speaker 1>crime and up to this point what they did was

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<v Speaker 1>not criminal, but it's getting close. I think maybe the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's across state lines, could find out who the

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<v Speaker 1>persons are that rented that U haul. Don't arrest them,

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<v Speaker 1>but say, okay, these are the new laws in Evendale,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where you got to go. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>new laws. And Lincoln Heights. You can't be near a

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<v Speaker 1>school and we're gonna monitor this. But you have the

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<v Speaker 1>right to make a fool of yourself, use hate speech

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<v Speaker 1>all that you want. But isn't it true that as

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<v Speaker 1>a lawmaker, you can take whether it's porn or freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of expression and have a location for it with minimal

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<v Speaker 1>requirements to get the permit.

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<v Speaker 3>You can try to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we dealt with it at Fountain Square with

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, with the cross and so you have

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<v Speaker 2>public spaces.

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<v Speaker 3>We have three CDC.

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<v Speaker 2>That does the programming for places like Fountain Square and

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<v Speaker 2>they would have to deal with the permitting. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the key piece here is that we have to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to accept some of this grotesque behavior, as grotesque

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<v Speaker 2>as it is. Bill, because we live in America, we

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<v Speaker 2>have the First Amendment rights are part of our constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>And once we start taking those rights incrementally away from

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<v Speaker 2>those who have the most grotesque parts of our society,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I then lose our rights for our First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to have to deal with it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you know you're right that maybe we could say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the area where you have your protests. Most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have a permit, and when they go

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the boundaries of that, the government should sue them,

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<v Speaker 2>and most likely they can't afford that kind of litigation.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, what we don't want to do is continue

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<v Speaker 2>to empower them by giving them great platforms and allow

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<v Speaker 2>the community to come with their First Amendment rights, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, and just say we have a different perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here peacefully, and then let's keep moving. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more worried about making sure that our public school

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<v Speaker 2>systems are performing well, that our young people still the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest way for young people to get from poverty into

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<v Speaker 2>the middle class is a great education. I believe in

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<v Speaker 2>good public education. We've got to make sure no matter

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<v Speaker 2>who's listening to this across the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 2>putting our time in attention and getting the best public

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<v Speaker 2>education systems that we can, and then those people who

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<v Speaker 2>cannot get out of those neighborhoods where the public education

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<v Speaker 2>is poor. All should have the right to send their

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<v Speaker 2>children to get the best education they possibly can, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the school choice. And people don't like to hear that,

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<v Speaker 2>who are public education supporters, But the reality of it

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<v Speaker 2>is is I have the ability to send my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>to Seaton. I can financially do that. Other people can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and they should have the right to have

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<v Speaker 2>their children have the best education. So I look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to the Secretary of Education getting confirmed because I think

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<v Speaker 2>we need to have a real national discussion about how

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<v Speaker 2>we turn around our public education systems in America's secondly

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<v Speaker 2>talking about not these neo dotties on a blage.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you talk about grotesque. I did not know until

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the sixty minutes piece that in Germany or

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<v Speaker 1>most of Europe, if you insult someone, if you call

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<v Speaker 1>them fat and ugly when they're fat and ugly, you

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<v Speaker 1>could be criminally charged with an insult and they knock

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<v Speaker 1>on your door at six o'clock in the morning. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're online calling somebody fat and ugly, or calling an

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but to be proactive up to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>near Butcher Holler and Harlan County, and they do this

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<v Speaker 1>I will not put them on the airwaves. I think five, nine, twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening with Trump and what's happening now with the

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<v Speaker 1>you were in charge when you pass something relative to

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<v Speaker 1>now coined as a sanctuary city that may lose millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars in federal money. Where do you stand on

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<v Speaker 2>I was against it then against it now, And at

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<v Speaker 2>that time, you know, family was under hospice care. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very trying time for our family. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was against it then, against it now. And what

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<v Speaker 3>And let's just make it clear for the record.

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<v Speaker 2>ICE is going after the worst, the worst of the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're after gang members, they're after drug dealers,

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<v Speaker 2>human trafficking and prostitution. And so this notion that ICE

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<v Speaker 2>is coming in and they're taking people who have come

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<v Speaker 2>here illegally but are not breaking laws, they're not gang

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<v Speaker 2>members as examples, is absolutely a policy and we have

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<v Speaker 2>to address that because there are people that are saying

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<v Speaker 2>about deportation. That is not what's happening. I think our

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<v Speaker 2>mayor and our city council should be very clear on

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<v Speaker 2>the record instead of passing resolute on what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with Israel if AMA, they need to deal with ICE

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<v Speaker 2>and pass something that says we will cooperate and we

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure that Chief Dji understands that we

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<v Speaker 2>would like you to cooperate with ICE anytime they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the deportation of criminals in our community. Who the

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<v Speaker 2>hell would want a gang member in their school? This

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<v Speaker 2>notion that we're going to go into school and take

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<v Speaker 2>out a student. The only reason ICE would go into

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<v Speaker 2>gang member there, and you would think that every parent

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<v Speaker 2>not what's happening. We want cooperation, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor and council should be on record saying that we're

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<v Speaker 2>very clear about it, and I think if they don't,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the federal government's just come down very hard

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<v Speaker 2>on the city of Cincinnati and holding the county.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll see what happens there. I'm in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the dreamers. I'm in favor of extending the worker permit

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<v Speaker 1>to know who you are, what is your name, here's

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<v Speaker 1>my fingerprints, I can work in those jobs. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>fa of that. When it comes to Ken Coober, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Hills was on with Sloaney yesterday talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ken Kober I've spoken to him and he's being

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<v Speaker 1>ken Kober the sergeant who's the head of the FOP says, look, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we take an oath to defend and protect the constitution

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<v Speaker 1>United State's Constitution of Ohio, and we have an oath

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<v Speaker 1>to assist FBI, US Marshall Service or ICE because they're

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<v Speaker 1>part of the federal government of which we're a part,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're between a rock and a hard place. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Chief Thiji is reflecting what Cheryl Long, the city manager, wants,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, we're not going to cooperate with ICE,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a problem because cops take an oath to

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<v Speaker 1>cooperate with ice. He said, we use ice, and when

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<v Speaker 1>the city might have a rate of one type or

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<v Speaker 1>another arene we use FBI resources. We ask them, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we often work with US Attorney's Office and so It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a hand and a glove. And you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>part of law enforcement in the Tri State playing political

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<v Speaker 1>games and not getting off the streets the worst of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. And let's face it, and ancillarily to that,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone is picked up with the Warrens for rape

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<v Speaker 1>and murder and drug trafficking and they find someone with

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<v Speaker 1>that person who's also here illegally, there may be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of ancillary difficulties. But I would hope to

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<v Speaker 1>after paravosers stand up like a tenfold beacon of the

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<v Speaker 1>night and saying we went out of our community the

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<v Speaker 1>worst of the worst. We're gonna help Ice do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But politically I think Christopher Smitherman he can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct is correct, And what I will share with you

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<v Speaker 2>is that the University of Cincinnati, places like Cincinnati State,

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Saint Joe as examples, Zavid University. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in Georgia was real with Lake and Riley. They

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<v Speaker 2>will absolutely regret it, like politicians do. If one of

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<v Speaker 2>these young people are out jogging and they lose their

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<v Speaker 2>life to someone here illegally, one of these gang members.

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<v Speaker 2>So Georgia learned a very bad lefton even though it

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<v Speaker 3>Let me because I know we've got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching the news like you, and I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>this plane in Canada and I'm just remain disappointed that

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<v Speaker 2>I hear Democratic leaders like Pete boudageg and others saying

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<v Speaker 2>that President Trump had something to do with the plane

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<v Speaker 2>crash in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you fall on this issue of whether you support

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<v Speaker 2>Trump or you don't. The lying is what is hurting America.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you have mainstream media willing to put

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<v Speaker 2>this craziness out here that the President had something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the Canadian crash when it was when it

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<v Speaker 2>was high winds that impacted pilots who probably did a

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<v Speaker 2>great job and there wasn't even more loss of life

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<v Speaker 2>based on their heroic and the staff.

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<v Speaker 3>There on that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>To try to blame that on the president is absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 2>They have not learned their lesson from the back four

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<v Speaker 2>years of Bill Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just as shame what I see.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything they believe has to do with it goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to President Trump. And again, as I close it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter where you are politically.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to the point where all this lying, rushing, collusion,

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<v Speaker 2>hunter Biden laptop now the crash here has something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Trump, is just absolutely outrageous.

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher, we got to run always the voice of common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>Show and stay warm this Wednesday afternoon. Thank you, Christopher.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir, God bless you always continue with more

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<v Speaker 1>news next at showing me the reds getting out it

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend for the first time on news radio seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW. Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, since

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<v Speaker 1>the events of February the seventh, you just heard from

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<v Speaker 1>Olmer Vice Mayor Christopher Smithman about his views on the matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But David Ferrara, who's a reporter for The Inquiry, has

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<v Speaker 1>streets of Lincoln Heights, stop cars and vetting passers by.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first sentence in this column by David Ferrara

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<v Speaker 1>is this, in the day since the Neo Nazi demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>rattled residents here, that's Lincoln Heights, a group of men

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<v Speaker 1>began guarding at streets many donning all black and wearing

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<v Speaker 1>masks with rifles in hand. They're doing more than your

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<v Speaker 1>typical neighborhood watch group. They've stopped people from passing through,

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<v Speaker 1>approached cars in a fast food drive through, and even

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<v Speaker 1>threatened to shoot a property owner. And David Ferraro, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham show.

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<v Speaker 1>And David, can you relate whether or not these so

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<v Speaker 1>called armed men are like residents of Lincoln Heights or

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<v Speaker 1>are they part of the neo Nazi movement?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>To my understanding, their residence for either the community or

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<v Speaker 4>Lincoln Heights or the surrounding area. I've spoken with a

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<v Speaker 4>few of them on the condition of anonymity, and not

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<v Speaker 4>many of them wanted to talk with me, But to

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<v Speaker 4>my understanding, they're not a part of the white supremacist group,

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<v Speaker 4>but they do feel like they might be coming back

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<v Speaker 4>those white supremacists. So the community is on edge. And

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<v Speaker 4>I've been following this since there was a prayer vigil

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<v Speaker 4>the Sunday after the demonstration, and the community has been

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<v Speaker 4>on alert and ready to take action after that Friday demonstration.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the issue is when I had psmith

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<v Speaker 1>Mohun about half an hour ago, he talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that a business owner, a friend of his, had

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<v Speaker 1>armed men in fatigues that maybe were law enforcement walking

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<v Speaker 1>up to a window. And this person in the car

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<v Speaker 1>who was a friend of his, had a handgun under

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<v Speaker 1>the seat, and so this is ripe with difficulties. Are

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<v Speaker 1>these It appears to be individuals acting on their own

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<v Speaker 1>and the sheriff, Charmaine McGuffey, and your column indicates that

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's not aware of this going on at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like the idea of you having the nine

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<v Speaker 1>to one one cause. But do you have a sense

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a terribly dangerous situation if so called

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think just listening to the nine one one calls,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, several callers have expressed concerns about seeing the

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<v Speaker 4>men with guns. But there's a couple of confrontations, and

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of detailed that in the story about folks

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<v Speaker 4>that have actually been confronted by these armed men. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in my own experience when I was reporting

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<v Speaker 4>on Monday, I was a part of the rolling car protest,

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<v Speaker 4>just filing along to do my reporting and someone came

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<v Speaker 4>to roll the car window down and asked me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you doing here in the neighborhood. And once

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<v Speaker 4>I showed up my press badge, I was allowed to proceed.

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<v Speaker 4>But it seems like there's been these situations where folks

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<v Speaker 5>At any time if something were to go wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's something that Jim Meister, one of the folks

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<v Speaker 4>and then spoke to me about it, said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he approached these people who were in one of his

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<v Speaker 4>that they were the police, pointed a rifle at him,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it was just in time once the police

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<v Speaker 1>And I would assume, David, that the person that approached

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<v Speaker 1>your vehicle has said roll down the window, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you can applied was not law enforcement. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a concerned citizen. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you what did he or she look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it armed? The dress? Was there a mask, on

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the folks are.

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<v Speaker 4>The person that approached me was like most of the

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<v Speaker 4>folks that have been protecting the community out there. They're

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<v Speaker 4>fully dressed in black, wearing a mask, typically a large

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<v Speaker 4>rifle or shotgun or even sometimes a pistol. I've noticed

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<v Speaker 4>it since I've been to the prayer vigil that Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Folks just taken upon themselves kind of keep guarding the

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<v Speaker 4>community and watching. And that's something that's been reported not

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<v Speaker 4>only by the overpass where the demonstration happened, but also

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<v Speaker 4>by Mangum and Shepherd Lane and then on the other

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<v Speaker 4>outskirts of the neighborhood off of North Wayne Avenue.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we talk about the nine one one calls explain

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Meister as the business owner who has a business

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<v Speaker 1>in Lincoln Heights. And I've been through there many times,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure you have. It often is a lower

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<v Speaker 1>middle class area without a lot of businesses going on,

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<v Speaker 1>so he would stand out. So explain what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Meister, the business owner in Lincoln Heights.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jim was telling me that he owns a business

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<v Speaker 4>building with a vacant lot right adjacent to it. And

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<v Speaker 4>he had seen on the camera that there were some

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<v Speaker 4>folks that had went through a small little fence that

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<v Speaker 4>had been blocking off the lot and parked in.

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<v Speaker 3>The middle of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So he had decided, you know, he saw the camera

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<v Speaker 4>footage to call on one one and report that there

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<v Speaker 4>was somebody on his property. And as he was driving

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<v Speaker 4>over there, he's talking to the dispatcher, and once he

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<v Speaker 4>arrives and he's still on nine one one with the dispatcher,

452
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<v Speaker 4>the folks get out of their car approach him start

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<v Speaker 4>asking what are you doing here, and he shouts out, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm calling the police, and they say, we are the police.

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<v Speaker 4>We're protecting Lincoln Heights. What do you want? And Jim

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<v Speaker 4>tells me you could hear this in the nine one

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<v Speaker 4>one call. But Jim tells me at this point that

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<v Speaker 4>one of the men raises his rightfle and points at

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<v Speaker 4>him and tells him that point blankly, that he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to shoot him. And they begin arguing back and forth

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<v Speaker 4>about who owns the lot, and then police show up

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<v Speaker 4>about fifteen twenty seconds later and de escalate the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim told me that he let them stay until the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, but that ended up be coming

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the week and now there's been a ten popped

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<v Speaker 4>up on the property and he's not very happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>In your story, a photo by Liz do for there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a photo of a large gentleman with he appears

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<v Speaker 1>to have multiple weapons on him, including holding in his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Appears to be a semi automatic rifle. Almost looks like

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a silencer on the end, but that's illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it's not a silencer. And this person is masked.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see the eyes, that's about it, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>some emblem on his shoulder. Is that the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>approached the business owner Jim Meister? Is that the same person?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not sure if that's the same person. That

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<v Speaker 4>photo is taken during the Monday rolling car protest to

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<v Speaker 4>point out the patch, though the patch I did see

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<v Speaker 4>on his shoulder was of some gun club. But you

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<v Speaker 4>can tell by the regaria they're wearing that you know

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming out there, fully disguised, fully just out there

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<v Speaker 4>ready to protect the community. And this kind of matches

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<v Speaker 4>the sort of look of most of the folks that

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<v Speaker 4>are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to your column, and I one calls when

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<v Speaker 1>meister the business owner says, hey, I'm calling the police. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we are the police. This person said, what's wrong? We're

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<v Speaker 1>protecting Lincoln Heights. So this person self identified as the police.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my understand And if you listen to the recording,

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<v Speaker 4>you could hear them say that in the background it mister,

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<v Speaker 4>confirm that to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that a crime? I mean, you're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecution business, but when you identify yourself as a police officer,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a difficulty. So, just generally speaking, David

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<v Speaker 1>Farrar of the Inquiry, this appears to be a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where well minded, community minded individuals wanted to get together

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<v Speaker 1>to quote, defend Lincoln Heights. But when you approach a

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<v Speaker 1>car with a gun and pointed at someone, isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>a problem?

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's something that I asked Sheriff mcguffy during a

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<v Speaker 4>press confidence yesterday and tried following up with her afterwards,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're awaiting a response from her and her team.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm about more information about how the deputy to respond

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<v Speaker 4>to these situations.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a nine to.

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<v Speaker 4>One one call that I listened to where the dispatcher

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<v Speaker 4>was calming down someone who had called about seeing these

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<v Speaker 4>men out there and said that police are checking on

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<v Speaker 4>them regularly throughout the day to make sure they're not

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<v Speaker 4>impeding traffic. But to my understanding, the Sheriff's office says

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<v Speaker 4>that they haven't had any complaints about these confrontations.

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<v Speaker 1>So it hadn't gotten to the sheriff's level. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you also relate in your story, David, that another man,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jacobs, called nine to one one and said he

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to leave the neighborhood Lincoln Heights after armed

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<v Speaker 1>men will not let him pass through on February the tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jacobs told the inquir I guess that would be you.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried to file a police report twice, but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the Sheriff's office has taken the issue seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you put some meat on those bones as far

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<v Speaker 1>as individuals in Lincoln Heights that are armed telling residents,

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<v Speaker 1>are telling those passing through that they can't enter Lincoln Heights.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>When I spoke to Jacob yesterday, he told me that

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<v Speaker 4>he had driven past the neighborhood after hearing about the

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<v Speaker 4>situation that was going on and just wanted to check

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<v Speaker 4>it out, and somebody had told him you know that

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<v Speaker 4>he'd have to leave, that he wasn't welcome there and

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't allowed to pass through. And he called nine

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<v Speaker 4>one one shortly after that, and they said that a

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<v Speaker 4>deputy would be dispatched to talk with him. And he

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<v Speaker 4>said that nobody ever showed up to file their report.

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<v Speaker 4>And after I spoke with him yesterday, he said he

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<v Speaker 4>went down to the station to file a police support

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<v Speaker 4>and the deputy didn't seem to take the issue seriously,

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<v Speaker 4>questioning him about whether his traffic was actually impeded, what

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<v Speaker 4>was he actually doing in the neighborhood, and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's not very hopeful.

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<v Speaker 4>He said that it's going to go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy's manager said that this is something been going on

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<v Speaker 1>that men, armed men would approach his customers. Wendy's customers,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in the drive through and inquire there whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not I guess what is your business, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>You say in your story that another man, Daniel Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 1>this is after that, according to the Wendy's manager confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>that armed men have been approaching customers in the drive through,

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<v Speaker 1>but declined to comment further. Can you imagine being in

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<v Speaker 1>mind get a double cheese burger with the ketch a

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<v Speaker 1>onion and pickle and our men approach you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is ripe with difficulties, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Reflect a lot of the concern that a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people who have been calling on them have been expressing.

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<v Speaker 4>There was one man, the one who had reported that

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<v Speaker 4>he saw our men's approaching people in the drives said

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<v Speaker 4>he was dropping off kids as part of a car

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<v Speaker 4>pool nearby and he wanted to get out of the

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<v Speaker 4>area as soon as possible after seeing these people approaching

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<v Speaker 4>people in cars and the drive through and staying on

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<v Speaker 4>the street corner and made him feel unsafe.

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<v Speaker 1>And none of these individuals are connected to the hate

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<v Speaker 1>filled neo Nazi group. These are just, I guess well

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<v Speaker 1>intended citizens who want to take on the role of police.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying the Sheriff McGuffey is not you, but

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<v Speaker 1>the people involved in this are saying she's not taking

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<v Speaker 1>this seriously.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the community ever since the beginning, especially since

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<v Speaker 4>the town hall last week, it's felt like the police

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<v Speaker 4>department isn't necessarily and I say the police department was

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<v Speaker 4>in the Sheriff's office because they tracked out for patrol

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<v Speaker 4>that the sheriff's office isn't giving them the level of

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<v Speaker 4>protection they feel like they need or deserve, and they

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<v Speaker 4>kind of come in to still that void themselves. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think folks that are passing through the community don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like that the sheriff's office is stepping in, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's something that Jacobs has said, feeling as if the

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<v Speaker 4>police are hoping it will go away if they just

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<v Speaker 4>don't provoke anything any further.

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<v Speaker 1>And David, I would note that your column indicates that

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<v Speaker 1>about ten years ago Lincolnites disbanding its own police division.

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<v Speaker 1>They've contracted out to the Sheriff's office the situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff McGuffey said, nobody has addressed that with the sheriff's office.

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<v Speaker 1>If they do, we'll certainly articulate what can and cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be done, and that we do not want to create

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood militias. We don't want we won't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>that because we understand that it leads to a pack

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<v Speaker 1>back to the end to the tactics of the neo Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>They want people to do that. And so at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it fair from your observation to assume that neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>militias with gun insignia on their arms are patrolling the

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<v Speaker 1>area because they think the sheriff McGuffey is not doing

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<v Speaker 1>her job properly. Is that what people are telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's something that a lot of residents expressed during

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<v Speaker 4>the town hall last week, and it seems like this

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't just one situation as provoked the community. It seems

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<v Speaker 4>like this community feels as if law enforcement hasn't been

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily doing their job.

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<v Speaker 3>And whether that's particularly.

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<v Speaker 4>In the community or part of a larger issue, it

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<v Speaker 4>seems like many folks were expressing that discontent with the

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<v Speaker 4>situation and this is just the latest example of that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, David, thank you. You'll be on the story

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<v Speaker 1>the next few days. Is that correct, and events will

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<v Speaker 1>dictate the amount of the coverage it receives. I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope that individuals are not acting as if they're quote police,

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<v Speaker 1>ordering people to wind down their windows and talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened to you as a reporter, It's happening to

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<v Speaker 1>lots of other people. And it appears that this group

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<v Speaker 1>is almost a self appointed to militia that's guarding Lincoln Heights,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is ripe with difficulties and dangers. Will see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the future. But David Ferrara of the Inquiry,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, David, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's continue with more news coming up. But

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<v Speaker 1>as David points out, he's a reporter. And when armed

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<v Speaker 1>individuals walk up to your door and say wind down

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<v Speaker 1>your window, put down your window, that's approaching disorderly conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>It's approaching intimidation, approaching impersonating a law enforcement official, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a crime. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, the

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<v Speaker 1>Great American with you every day. You're home of the Reds.

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham, the Great American.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great advocates for tax reform in this

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<v Speaker 1>country is Grover north Quest. He's been fabulous on this

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<v Speaker 1>issue for twenty or thirty years. And now things I'm

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<v Speaker 1>almost metastasized where actually it might happen. When the Trumpster

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<v Speaker 1>was first elected in twenty sixteen, and I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he said and made all these promises that didn't occur,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, okay, well that's that's the way politics go.

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<v Speaker 1>But now this time. I think maybe it's because of

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<v Speaker 1>the last intervening four years, what he was put through,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a consequence of that, he's now more committed

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<v Speaker 1>than ever to doing what needs to be done. And

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<v Speaker 1>we indicate now that he's going to go after the IRS.

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<v Speaker 1>And Grover Norquist has written on the subject many times.

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<v Speaker 1>They have over two thousand cars available for the IRS

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of one hundreds of millions of dollars. They

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<v Speaker 1>have bullets, they have guns, they have ammunition, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Grover Norquist, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, tell the American people, how good do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel now that tax reform may actually occur.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think we're going to get the bill passed.

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<v Speaker 6>The President of today tweeted out the assertion that we

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<v Speaker 6>need now to pass one bill, not two bills. There

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<v Speaker 6>were some well meaning people who wanted to do two bills.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem is if you do two would never actually

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<v Speaker 5>get done.

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<v Speaker 6>So we are now moving on one bill, which is

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<v Speaker 6>the consensus issue here, and that will be a tax

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<v Speaker 6>cut that the President's tax cut will.

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<v Speaker 5>Be made permanent.

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<v Speaker 6>It will go out indefinitely, not just for ten years,

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<v Speaker 6>but permanently. And the good news there is that we

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<v Speaker 6>have people will be sure and secure in what we're accomplishing,

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<v Speaker 6>and you'll know.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, this is what your tax full expensing.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the things that pass in the original bill

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<v Speaker 6>which will be kept.

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<v Speaker 5>The lower rate for small businesses will be kept. The

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<v Speaker 5>lower rates.

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<v Speaker 6>Every American will have lower tax rates than then before it,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's what was passed in the original bill.

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<v Speaker 5>And the cheerful.

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<v Speaker 6>News that we will double the standard reduction for individuals

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<v Speaker 6>and double the per child tax credit. All of these

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<v Speaker 6>things which passed in twenty seven will now be made permanent.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a huge, huge step in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as finding this trillion dollars, all of

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<v Speaker 1>us assumed there was waste fraud and abuse. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I've played before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama talking

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<v Speaker 1>about waste fraud and abuse. In nineteen ninety four, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a big government commission put together by Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>and Al Gore, and they had these four foot high

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<v Speaker 1>pages of rules and regulations. They said, okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>after that. Then you got Joe Biden. I've played his

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<v Speaker 1>cuts about all the waste fraud and abuse in the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government and I played that, and I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen. Why do you believe now, Grover Norquiest,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I believe it now, which I haven't believed

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<v Speaker 1>it until recently, that this president is serious about cutting

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<v Speaker 1>the size and the scope of the federal government over

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<v Speaker 1>the objections of CNN. Why this time do you have

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<v Speaker 1>more hope than before? Because I've heard heard this song before,

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<v Speaker 1>sung by others, But this time I believe.

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<v Speaker 5>It several reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>The first is that we have a Republican House and

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<v Speaker 6>a Republican Senate. When Reagan was president, he had a

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<v Speaker 6>Republican Senate. He had the Grace Commission report, which came

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<v Speaker 6>out with many, many good and important ideas, some of

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<v Speaker 6>which could be done by executive orner, but many of

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<v Speaker 6>which required laws. And with a democratic House, nothing could

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<v Speaker 6>actually move. Nothing could move. When the Democrats had the

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<v Speaker 6>House in the Senate under Bill Clinton, they could say

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<v Speaker 6>they were for all these reforms, but all those reforms

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<v Speaker 6>reduced the number of democratic restinct workers in the country.

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<v Speaker 5>That was never ever going to get fixed that way.

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<v Speaker 6>The other reason to believe it is the president is

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<v Speaker 6>now in his second term.

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<v Speaker 5>He was here for four years.

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<v Speaker 6>He's seen how the bureaucracy lies to the president about

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<v Speaker 6>what's actually happening in each of these situations. And he

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<v Speaker 6>had staff around him who is hardened, and they have

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<v Speaker 6>fought these fights before.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would add one other thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Elon Musk and X Elon Musk has a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>brilliant talent which goes in and looks at the computers

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<v Speaker 6>things you think should have been done every year for

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<v Speaker 6>the last thirty years. For crying out loud, how in

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<v Speaker 6>the world did they not go into these computers to

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<v Speaker 6>say how old are the people on Social Security? Are

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<v Speaker 6>there several people with the same soci Security number?

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<v Speaker 5>Perhaps?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, why in the world did this not get

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<v Speaker 6>exposed before? This is not you think it isn't terribly difficult.

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<v Speaker 6>But they've gone in with people who know what to

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<v Speaker 6>look for and how to find it, and they've been

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<v Speaker 6>very good at it. And then the same thing happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Add one thing x X Twitter. Right when we tried

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<v Speaker 6>to take a good idea and publicize it to cut

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<v Speaker 6>taxes when the Republicans took over in ninety four in

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<v Speaker 6>the House and Senate, what happened, Well, The New York

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<v Speaker 6>Times wasn't interested in things, and the Washington Post wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>interested in it, and so these are just they just

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<v Speaker 6>were not interested in getting any of these things done

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<v Speaker 6>or in publicizing them.

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<v Speaker 5>And since now, what can happen?

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<v Speaker 6>As long as he thinks it's a good idea, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what, it'll get talked about. It will get talked about.

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<v Speaker 6>He will send it out and ten million people will

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<v Speaker 6>see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's one of those things where frankly, they can't

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<v Speaker 5>shut us up. They can't shut us up. They want to,

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<v Speaker 5>but they can't.

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<v Speaker 1>The stars have aligned, and they've aligned in ways. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was possible, but not likely. One thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're more familiar with the numbers than I am,

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<v Speaker 1>but the government accounting off As GEO said in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, this is during the heyday of Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and Nakamala Harris. Now, between two hundred and fifty billion

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<v Speaker 1>up to five hundred and fifty billion dollars a year

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<v Speaker 1>was lost through the federal government with waste, fraud and abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that thing hit with a thud because nobody in

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<v Speaker 1>the Congress, Democrats controlled it wanted to highlight the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that every year between two hundred and fifty billion and

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and fifty billion is simply lost, and that

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<v Speaker 1>thing has been resurrected. I watched the other day of

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<v Speaker 1>the interview with my friend, my good friend Sean Hannity,

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<v Speaker 1>and I spoke to him about a day or two

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<v Speaker 1>thereafter to get his perspective on things with the DOGE

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon Mushkin and of course President Trump. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that came out of it is the President said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I signed these eos, these executive orders. I sign them,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they go into a file somewhere and nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I did that in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I signed these executive orders. So what the bureaucracy ate

756
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<v Speaker 1>the homework? They didn't care. So what's different this time?

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<v Speaker 1>Why will the bureaucracy care when Trump signs an EO.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're putting people in who can actually manage this

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<v Speaker 6>sort of thing, and that has really changed. New leadership

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<v Speaker 6>at the head of each of these agencies, at the

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<v Speaker 6>head of each of these departments. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 6>just amazing what they've done. They're not some people who

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<v Speaker 6>just are willing to say we're doing this and I

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<v Speaker 6>don't care to hear your objections because we've heard them before.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you imagine, You know some of the people that

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<v Speaker 6>he's brought in, they have been through these wars, with

767
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<v Speaker 6>these conflicts, They've dealt with this before. They know how

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<v Speaker 6>the bureaucracy tries to get around decisions.

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<v Speaker 5>Made by the president. And add to this, the Supreme.

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<v Speaker 6>Court is now serious about life. In the past, we

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<v Speaker 6>had a very left wing Supreme Court which would.

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<v Speaker 5>Say, oh, you can't do this, and you go why not.

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<v Speaker 6>They say, well, we'll come up with a reason why later.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the Supreme Court that recognizes the president runs

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<v Speaker 6>the executive office. The president runs the executive branch, not

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<v Speaker 6>the bureaucrats. This is not set up for bureaucrats. This

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<v Speaker 6>is set up for the president to run it and

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<v Speaker 6>all of the decisions they've made in the past. That

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<v Speaker 6>allows some departments to say, this is what we're doing,

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<v Speaker 6>and the department's going to run it, or this SEC

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<v Speaker 6>is going to run over the FCC or one of

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<v Speaker 6>these alphabet things. This is very, very important that we

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<v Speaker 6>have people as cabinet officers who are willing to push

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<v Speaker 6>for what the president asked for. We have a House

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<v Speaker 6>in the Senate willing to investigate whenever the bureaucracy is

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<v Speaker 6>in the way, and we have a Supreme Court that believes, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>this is being made by us. This decision is being

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<v Speaker 6>made by the President, not by bureau frounts.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a list here of the age of people

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<v Speaker 1>getting Social Security benefits. It is totally ridiculous. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>take a rocket science is to figure out something is

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<v Speaker 1>seriously wrong with one hundred and fifty year olds getting

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<v Speaker 1>Social Security along with a massive fraud. I have the

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<v Speaker 1>list here. If you're between one hundred and one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ten years old, that's pretty big number. One hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ten years old, four point seven million are on

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<v Speaker 1>the roles getting social Security. If you're one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years old, there's one point three million getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're between ninety and one hundred and six million

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<v Speaker 1>are getting it. There aren't that many people alive. And

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<v Speaker 1>you would think, and according to Elon Musk, they're using

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<v Speaker 1>the technology that was available, believe it or not, during

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<v Speaker 1>World War two to conduct Social Security payments. I want

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<v Speaker 1>every recipient to get every dollar that they're entitled to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to have Social Security. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>every year there's one hundred billion dollars missing in Social Security.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no audit ever conducted in your business. At American

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<v Speaker 1>tax reform, I would assume at some point somebody looks

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<v Speaker 1>at an audit and say, we got an audit. See

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<v Speaker 1>where the money went to do secondary proof. But with

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<v Speaker 1>Social Security that never happens. When I look at this

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<v Speaker 1>list of people getting Social Security benefits, it is absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon Musk wants to fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, I know it on your website. I have many

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<v Speaker 1>listeners believe or not, in the state of California, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a terrible problem coming up because of what

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom has done to gas prices in the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, rates are coming down. But can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>the American people why the gasoline prices out West are

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculously high caused by Gavin Newsom?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, among other things, they've been not building pipelines, they've

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<v Speaker 6>been not building refineries, and because they have taxes, they

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<v Speaker 6>have tremendous tax taxes on energy and everything that goes

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<v Speaker 6>into energy. The higher energy costs in California are clearly,

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<v Speaker 6>as you point out, done by that governor and the

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<v Speaker 6>legislature and by previous governors of legislators that said, we

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<v Speaker 6>don't want pipelines coming into this into this beautiful state. No,

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to have a real problem now and in

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<v Speaker 6>the future, and.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's going to get worse, not better unless

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<v Speaker 1>and people of California got to decide for themselves what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell's going on. But tax reform is where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you envision the day Grover Norquist? Maybe in two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years, we're going to have a flat tax

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<v Speaker 1>or a value added tax that the irs will not

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<v Speaker 1>exist and that we'll pay taxes when we buy something,

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<v Speaker 1>or there will be a flat tax. Do you see

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<v Speaker 1>that day coming?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think that we can and will get to

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<v Speaker 6>a single rate flat tax. And the reason for that

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<v Speaker 6>is that at the state level, there are eight states

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<v Speaker 6>where the income tax is zero.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a flat rate. That's my favorite flat rate tax.

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<v Speaker 6>And there are fifteen other states that have single rates

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<v Speaker 6>of two, three or four percent. So twenty three percent

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<v Speaker 6>of the twenty three states twenty three states, almost.

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<v Speaker 5>Half have a single rate tax, either zero or a

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<v Speaker 5>non zero number.

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<v Speaker 6>There are ten states that are phasing their income taxes

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<v Speaker 6>down to zero. Where the legislature and the governor said

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<v Speaker 6>we're on the way to zero. Here's how we're doing it,

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<v Speaker 6>and they've passed the law to begin that March. So

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<v Speaker 6>over the next few years, probably in three years, there

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<v Speaker 6>will be a majority of states with a single rate tax,

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<v Speaker 6>and ten to fifteen years from now, they'll be fully

857
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<v Speaker 6>twenty states that have no income tax at all. So

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<v Speaker 6>as a majority of the members of the House and

859
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<v Speaker 6>a majority of the members of the Senate come from

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<v Speaker 6>states with a single rate tax or a zero income tax,

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<v Speaker 6>I could see how we do this nationally, not just

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<v Speaker 6>in our state. It works in Texas, it works in Florida,

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<v Speaker 6>it works in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, all of these states.

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<v Speaker 6>Have single rate Illinois, for crying out loud, has it's

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<v Speaker 6>a single rate tax, and the legislature can't fix it.

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<v Speaker 6>It can't change it because people like a single rate tax.

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<v Speaker 6>They feel protected. They're not going to be divided into

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<v Speaker 6>different groups and mug one at a time.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a huge, huge step forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, lastly, you may put yourself out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>Go over nor questatr dot org. You may be out

873
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<v Speaker 1>of business with this. But now Indiana's passing They had

874
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<v Speaker 1>unanimous vote in the Senate by Democrats and Republicans in

875
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<v Speaker 1>the state of Indiana to phase out the income tax.

876
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<v Speaker 1>Ohio is on that route right now. It's three point

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<v Speaker 1>five percent, is on its way to zero. And when

878
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<v Speaker 1>I look at this, it has to be number one.

879
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<v Speaker 1>When I watch CNN, etc. They're telling me constantly, all

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<v Speaker 1>this is a billionaire tax bill that Donald Trump wants

881
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<v Speaker 1>to give tax cuts to his billionaire friends at the

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<v Speaker 1>expense of your Social Security. Are you there to respond

883
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<v Speaker 1>to that one at all? How about the billionaires getting

884
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 1>tax cuts and mom and dad being thrown off a

885
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>cliff totally ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what the Democrats say every time, as a

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<v Speaker 6>tax doesn't matter what tax you're reducing, they can cutting.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, raising every tax is a good idea and

890
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 6>cutting any tax is a bad idea. And the American

891
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<v Speaker 6>people are not buying the argument that reducing taxes for

892
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<v Speaker 6>everybody is somehow a gift to quote unquote billionaires. My

893
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 6>favorite is the Democrats say, well, if you tax corporations,

894
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<v Speaker 6>people don't actually pay for it. Well there is no,

895
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<v Speaker 6>mister general voters, there just isn't. If you raise taxes

896
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 6>on general voters, or the grocery store down the street.

897
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<v Speaker 6>What happens They raise the price of what they sell

898
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 6>to get the more money, or they reduce wages or

899
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<v Speaker 6>the number of people working in order to save the

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00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 6>money that they then give to the government. They have

901
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<v Speaker 6>to get the money somewhere, so they either take it

902
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<v Speaker 6>out of today's payroll by paying people less or hiring

903
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<v Speaker 6>fewer people, or if they can, they could raise prices,

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00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:49.039
<v Speaker 6>which hits consumers. And if the company's really badly damaged

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<v Speaker 6>such that the stock goes down in the company, well,

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<v Speaker 6>then half of American families, whose pensions are determined by

907
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 6>the price UH shares of stock, we'll see the value

908
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 6>of their retirement savings go down. So retirees pay the

909
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<v Speaker 6>corporate income tax, consumers pay the corporate income tax, workers

910
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 6>pay the.

911
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<v Speaker 5>Corporate income tax. Somepanis don't pay the corporate income tax.

912
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<v Speaker 5>They don't have any money. It's lungs to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 6>And so this is you know, if General Motors Spend

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<v Speaker 6>takes a dollar and gives it to the government, that

915
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<v Speaker 6>came out of workers pay, or it came out of

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<v Speaker 6>higher prices, or it came out of collapsing value of

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<v Speaker 6>the company.

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<v Speaker 1>We consumers pay every corporate tax. It's not don't tax you,

919
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>don't tax me, tax a guy behind the tree. When

920
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>business taxes go up, consumers pay one percent of those

921
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>taxes directly or wages go down, one or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, Grover nor course, I look Ford, of the

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<v Speaker 1>days in the next few years. You and I have

924
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 1>no reason to talk atr dot org. Americans for tax reform.

925
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<v Speaker 1>It's happened, and you may get yourself out of work,

926
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 1>but so be it, Grover nor question. You've been fighting

927
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 1>this thing for thirty years along with me. Thanks again

928
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Grover you're

929
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<v Speaker 1>a great American.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh and absolutely, and even after we went, I'll call

931
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 6>and we'll say hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Grover, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 5>Take care.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's continue with more. That guy makes a

935
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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of sense. He's been at it for thirty years.

936
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<v Speaker 1>Don't believe what the media tells you. You as a

937
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 1>consumer pay all business taxes in the form of higher

938
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>prices for goods and services. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>The Great American Live but JOm of the Reds News

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<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 7>WLW Donald Trump and the Republican Party has changed the electorate.

942
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<v Speaker 5>What do I mean by that, Well.

943
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<v Speaker 7>Let's take a look at party identification Democrats versus Republicans.

944
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<v Speaker 7>You go back to twenty seventeen, five points more of

945
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 7>the electorate was Democrats than Republicans. You go to twenty

946
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<v Speaker 7>twenty one when Joe Biden was starting out, Look at

947
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 7>that six points more of the electorate was Democrats than Republicans.

948
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<v Speaker 7>But look at what's happened in February of twenty twenty five.

949
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<v Speaker 1>Look at this Republicans.

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<v Speaker 7>There are more Republicans in the electorate than there are

951
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<v Speaker 7>Democrats Republican plus two. So Donald Trump and the Republicans

952
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 7>have remade the electorate. They've turned some people over from

953
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:14.719
<v Speaker 7>being Democrats or independents to become Republicans. New folks have

954
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<v Speaker 7>entered the electorate who are more Republican leaning. And so

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<v Speaker 7>when you combine that with the fact that Republicans are

956
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<v Speaker 7>really really behind Donald Trump, all of a sudden, you

957
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<v Speaker 7>get a winning recipe whereby you break the normal rules

958
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 7>of politics and give Donald Trump that positive net approval

959
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 7>rating when he had pretty much a consistently negative one

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<v Speaker 7>in term number one. As I said, at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 7>he's copying Frank Sinatra doing.

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<v Speaker 6>It my way.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Biet, I'm broadcasting crag Man. That was Harry Inton

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<v Speaker 1>of CNN. Yeah, my good friend, my good friend, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is something like plus seven over what he was

966
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<v Speaker 1>in his first year of his first term when he

967
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<v Speaker 1>was underwater. We're dealing now with the most popular Republican

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<v Speaker 1>president in our lifetime and segment, you simply need to

969
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 1>deal with it. You know what I'm saying. I know

970
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. Give me some sports and make it fast.

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<v Speaker 1>I have coming up soon. Corey Bowman, who's running against

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<v Speaker 1>half debt pureval for mayor, is going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hyde Park class and getting signatures to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot. I'm sure you stand with Corey Borman Bowman,

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<v Speaker 1>whose half brother is JD. Vance, and Bowman's gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>as a conservative Republican pro Trumpster in the City of Cincinnati. Segment.

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<v Speaker 1>How are we looking?

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<v Speaker 8>Will he the stooge reporters appronpt service of your local

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<v Speaker 8>Temestar Heating in their conditioning dealers temestar quality you could

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<v Speaker 8>feel in Cincinnati. Coach Schmid Heating and Cooling five one

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<v Speaker 8>three five three one sixty nine hundred and you'll need that.

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<v Speaker 8>You'll need that tonight and today until Sunday. Sunday segment

983
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<v Speaker 8>is going to be forty degrees four. Sounds good to

984
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<v Speaker 8>me as Zager wins their third in a row last night,

985
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<v Speaker 8>will he topping Butler seventy six sixty three. The Muskies

986
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<v Speaker 8>are now four and one and over the last two weeks.

987
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<v Speaker 8>Eastern Michigan upset Miami seventy six sixty six. Tonight, Cincinnati

988
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<v Speaker 8>Bearcats at West Virginia six point thirty here on seven

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<v Speaker 8>hundred WLW Vanderbilt and number seventeen Kentucky at seven ESPN

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<v Speaker 8>fifteen thirty. Bengals update brought to you by You a

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<v Speaker 8>Good Spirits winding to Baco on Party Town with thirteen

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<v Speaker 8>convenient locations in northern Kentucky. Twenty four to seven Sports

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<v Speaker 8>reports former Bengals defensive tackle Doma top Peco is going

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<v Speaker 8>to become the new defensive line coach at Colorado with

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<v Speaker 8>prime time.

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<v Speaker 1>Domoto pecka, I like that guy. You liked him too,

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<v Speaker 1>did second good Man.

998
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<v Speaker 8>Peco played eleven years in Bengals uniform and the National

999
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:57.159
<v Speaker 8>Football League salary cap they say will fall between the

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<v Speaker 8>range of two hundred and seventy seven point five and

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<v Speaker 8>two and eighty one point five million. This year, the

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<v Speaker 8>cap has increased more than fifty three million dollars over

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<v Speaker 8>the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's money, seg Man, that's money.

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<v Speaker 8>What about T Higgins? What about T Higgins? They haven't

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<v Speaker 8>slapped the franchise tag on him yet. Hopefully they're talking

1007
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<v Speaker 8>contract downtown. Red's update. The Bob Castellini Red Zoner has

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<v Speaker 8>arrived in Goodyear, Arizona checking things out today and Red's

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<v Speaker 8>air Force one.

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<v Speaker 9>We will bring Championship Baseball to Cincinnati.

1011
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.119
<v Speaker 8>Cactus League open our Saturday against Cleveland. Hunter Green starts

1012
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<v Speaker 8>the action right here on seven hundred WLW. Win tonight

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<v Speaker 8>in Honduras. You know where that is, somewhere south of here.

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<v Speaker 8>FC Cincinnati and FC Montagua in the CONCA calf Championship

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<v Speaker 8>Cup first round nine thirty on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>So FC's playing in Hond'ors.

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<v Speaker 8>Honduras tonight and then they play here. Their MLS opener

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<v Speaker 8>is Saturday night at thirty two degrees TQL Stadium Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 8>According to Jennifer ketchmark of nine, where nine stands for

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<v Speaker 8>news it's going to be like thirty some degrees at

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<v Speaker 8>match time Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Jilly tickets available. Correct, let's see what?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, how about this Willie one of the boys winners

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00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 8>last night in high school basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>Say it the park.

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<v Speaker 8>Took SCPA like sixty seven to thirty or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the head coach put his cell phone up to

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room before the game. Yeah, and I gave

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats a speech that propelled them to victory. For

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<v Speaker 1>Deer Park, it's always victory after victory. And look at

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Hendrickson he comes to speak to deer Park. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals were talking about a long term, guaranteed, bonus

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<v Speaker 1>laden contract extension. There's a rumor that Jim Stall at

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<v Speaker 1>Deer Park may have Joe Burrow about a year from now.

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<v Speaker 8>If if you get Joe Burrow to speak for Deer Park,

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<v Speaker 8>you will have to rent out uh. You will have

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<v Speaker 8>to rent out Paul pay Course Stadium, the Fifth Third Arena,

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<v Speaker 8>Heritage Bank Center, the Centas Center, Truest Arena, uh and

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<v Speaker 8>everywhere else in between.

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<v Speaker 1>Second, if you want to have enough room, We've had

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<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy winners before speak for Deer Park. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that. Yeah, Roger Staubach, that's winner. He

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<v Speaker 1>was there the Navy Purcell, he was there. And I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confident that Trey Hendrickson will talk about the reception

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<v Speaker 1>that Trey received in Deer Park at Montgomery and Montgomery

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<v Speaker 1>by Tom Gregory, and because of that, negotiations are now underway.

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<v Speaker 8>Also, Willie, let's see EHL hockey tonight along the big

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<v Speaker 8>flooded river downtown. Western Conference leader, the Toledo Walleye will

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<v Speaker 8>take on the Cyclones. And of course tomorrow night four

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<v Speaker 8>Nations Championship on the line, the United States v Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know segment that is a pickham game, according

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<v Speaker 1>to DraftKings. I've looked online. It's a pickham. I would

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<v Speaker 1>think America would be favored in Boston, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Pickham game. And there's a rumor, only a rumor, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>said Donald John Trump may fly from mar A Lago

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<v Speaker 1>to Boston to get it for the game and to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to the boys, kind of like the late Herb

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks in mardl on ice. Now wouldn't that be something?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh oh, would Joe Biden do that? He wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 8>know where Boston or hockey is he'd get lost. But

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<v Speaker 8>remember the name on the front is a hell of

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<v Speaker 8>a lot more important than the one on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Get that through your head. Herb Brooks and Donald Trump. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we live in the era of Trump, Trump and more Trump.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I get what he ought to do is he

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<v Speaker 8>ought to go on the bench tonight. He's an assistant coach.

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<v Speaker 8>How big would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 8>And or give the ceremonial Uh, puck drop the puck drop?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, be careful with your language segment. But after two

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock today, we've scheduled Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey to be here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Lincoln Heights situation. Is patrolling the

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<v Speaker 1>streets of Lincoln Heights. And they're not the Nazis. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the opposition group of the Armed Resistance in Lincoln Heights.

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<v Speaker 1>They got action in the in Lincoln Heights. Will he

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, what would what would Richard K. Jones

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<v Speaker 1>say about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>He'd probably already have it cleaned up. And and those

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<v Speaker 8>guys out of town. Not good guys are out of town, weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>They They're from Summer in Kentucky. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask the sheriff, there was a U haul rent a

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<v Speaker 1>trailer had a license plate. You can find out who

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are. Of course, in their defense. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no crime that was committed by the so called

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<v Speaker 1>neo Nazis, but there may have been lots of crimes

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<v Speaker 1>committed by the self appointed militia in Lincoln Heights. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the hell is going on. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna all hell breaking loose us. Yes, David Ferrara of

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<v Speaker 1>the inquir did a pretty good job saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>was approached by an armed man, told to put down

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<v Speaker 1>his window and to respond to who are you with

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<v Speaker 1>the gun pointed in his direction in Lincoln Heights. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's called kidnapping. That's called impersonating a police officer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>called inducing panic, that's called disorderly conduct. You can't take

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<v Speaker 1>a rifle and pointed at somebody and say no your rules,

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<v Speaker 1>shut your mouth and do what I tell you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called kidnapping. You know what I'm saying, I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. Give me out of the studs reportment.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Corey Bowman coming up, who wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>the man of Cincinnati's gonna run as a pro Trump Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>What are his chances in the city of Cincinnati. Only

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<v Speaker 1>his hairdresser knows for sure.

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<v Speaker 8>Will you in hon of a cold day here at

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<v Speaker 8>the tri State we leave you with the immortal words

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<v Speaker 8>of the Stooge Report.

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<v Speaker 10>I am so excited about this team.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just getting pumped up about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to get pumped up segment Because the experts

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<v Speaker 1>some have picked the Reds to win the division. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that sounds all right to me? Let's continue segment.

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<v Speaker 1>The sheriff coming up after two o'clock today, show them

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds in Middle Tucky. That would be news Radio

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WU Elder Bill cunning in the Great American.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, at this point there appears to be one

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<v Speaker 1>opponent against abdam pure of alfamer Cincinnati, that is Corey Bowman.

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<v Speaker 1>And Corey Bowman is the half brother of JD. Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>And in about ten minutes or so it will be

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<v Speaker 1>at the Hyde Park Plaza to collect signatures. And Corey Bowman,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, tell the American people where you are

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<v Speaker 1>in your signature process. One must have be done, and

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<v Speaker 1>then one or two things about your platform. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do you seek to do at two o'clock at Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>Park plaster.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>Two weeks ago we made the decision to pool petitions

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<v Speaker 9>to run for mayor Cincinnati, so we kind of had

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<v Speaker 9>to hit the ground running. We have had some great

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<v Speaker 9>responses for our signatures. We have to have five hundred

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<v Speaker 9>verified signatures by tomorrow morning in order to get us

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<v Speaker 9>on the ballot. I keep telling people, this is not a.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote for me.

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<v Speaker 9>This is a vote to allow me to convince you

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<v Speaker 9>to vote for me for the next eight months. So

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<v Speaker 9>I believe that this is going to be an awesome

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<v Speaker 9>opportunity for people to see change in the city. But

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<v Speaker 9>I'm going to be at Hyde Park Plaza from two

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<v Speaker 9>to three pm today collecting signatures because we've got to

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<v Speaker 9>be able to get signatures to be able to make

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<v Speaker 9>sure that there's no question we're going to be on

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<v Speaker 9>the ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you running as a Republican, a Democrat or independent?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, on the ticket you have to run as non

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<v Speaker 9>parson as mayor of Cincinnati. But I will say that

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<v Speaker 9>we are being supported by and we are running on

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<v Speaker 9>as a Republican candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand Republicans aren't too popular in the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand that I couldn't be telling me that.

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<v Speaker 9>They keep telling me it's impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be an uphill battle, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Just saying.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Well, basically, four weeks ago, I was flying into

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<v Speaker 9>Cincinnati from probably the greatest inauguration that my generation will

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<v Speaker 9>ever see. Saw so much to poor and hope for

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<v Speaker 9>the country, and me and my wife are downtown. This

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<v Speaker 9>is our home. This is not a stepping stone for us.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where we raise our family.

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<v Speaker 9>And I just knew there's no chance that our hometown

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<v Speaker 9>can fall back the next four years, and that's why

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<v Speaker 9>we're running.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Your brother's jd Vance, he's doing quite well. Came back

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<v Speaker 1>from Munich a few days ago. Mike jd Vance campaign

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<v Speaker 1>for you for the mayor's position here in Cincinnati. He

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<v Speaker 1>lives here, you know, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, this is his hometown. He loves Cincinnati about as

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<v Speaker 9>much as I do. But the reality is right now

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<v Speaker 9>is I tell people I've got a good luck and

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<v Speaker 9>love you from him. But right now there's nothing to

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<v Speaker 9>endorse because we have to get on the ballot. After that,

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<v Speaker 9>once we present our platform, our position on key issues.

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<v Speaker 3>In the city.

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<v Speaker 9>There's no telling what will happen, but I believe that

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<v Speaker 9>there's going to be so much momentum behind this campaign

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<v Speaker 9>the next eight months that what is impossible is going

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<v Speaker 9>to start looking like it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Corey Bowman, brother of JD Vance, you're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to run more or less as a Trump

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<v Speaker 1>Republican in the city of Cincinnati, Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm going to run as a Cincinnatian that cares too

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<v Speaker 9>much about his city to let it be run by

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred percent Democrat city council and mayor to where

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<v Speaker 9>it's just simply an echo chamber. But we've seen things

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<v Speaker 9>the last four years that has left people very frustrated,

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<v Speaker 9>and that's what I'm running on.

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<v Speaker 1>All Okay, So you're going to be at the Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>Park plays and starting at about five or ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>at two o'clock today till three point thirty, you need

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred more signatures. So if someone is interested,

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<v Speaker 1>what part of Hyde Park Plaza. Tony Benner's been there

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<v Speaker 1>many times, is at the Kroger store down the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Where will you be if anywhere?

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<v Speaker 9>We're going to be around the parking lots around. Probably

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<v Speaker 9>Marshall's is going to be the area where we are.

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<v Speaker 9>Just be looking for us with the clipboard. Also, you

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<v Speaker 9>can go to King's Arms Coffee Shop, which is our

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<v Speaker 9>coffee shop in the west end of Cincinnati at nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>hundred Bay Miller Street.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to be there.

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<v Speaker 9>Till three pm and you can sign petitions there as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Worst case scenario, because we've got to get these in

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<v Speaker 9>by tomorrow morning. If you want to sign our petition,

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<v Speaker 9>contact at Coreybowman dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the email.

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<v Speaker 9>Contact at Coreybowman dot com. Reach out to us and

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<v Speaker 9>we will find some way to get your signature.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Corey with a C. Last name is be like

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<v Speaker 1>in boywm a N Corey Bowman dot com. I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to a constitutional conservative Trumpion being elected the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati. That would be a sign of the apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Bowman, thank you very much. Good luck to you

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<v Speaker 1>in the next hour or two. Let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and

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<v Speaker 1>give my best to Sean Donovan. Will you Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, And it's Corey co r Y. There's no e

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<v Speaker 9>even though Corey Dillon was my favorite football player growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Number twenty eight. Corey Bowman, you're at the Hyde Park

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<v Speaker 1>Plaza by the Marshalls. Put up a big sign. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Corey Bowman, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you Bill so much.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America News is next. That's your home of

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<v Speaker 1>the Red's News Radio seven hundred WLW my Billy Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>the Great American. About twelve days ago, there were a

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<v Speaker 1>group of so called neo Nazis standing on a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>overpast I seventy five, hurling fourth some of their neo

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi symbols. Since then, all hell's broken loose, I head on.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple hours ago, David Ferrera. Ferrera is a new

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<v Speaker 1>reporter with the Inquir's been out it for about seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight months, but long experience in the journalism business,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a column that quote, armed men are guarding the

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<v Speaker 1>streets of Lincoln Heights, stopping cars and vetting passers. By

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<v Speaker 1>joining you and I now. As the Sheriff of Hamilton County,

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<v Speaker 1>Charmaine mcguffey's been out at about thirty some years in

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement, that twice elected sheriff and Sheriff Welcome again.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Bill Cunningham Show, And first of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your reaction to this inquir story about

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<v Speaker 1>armed men walking up to a car windows with guns

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<v Speaker 1>pointed in that direction, ordering the occupants to do or

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<v Speaker 1>not do certain things. What about that?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, thank you Bill for having me on so that

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<v Speaker 11>I can tell the constituents of Hamlin County the facts.

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<v Speaker 11>First of all, report there were two reports made about this.

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<v Speaker 11>The first report was a report that round at this

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<v Speaker 11>there was a woman on the fourteenth here of February

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<v Speaker 11>who was sitting at a stop sign and she wrote

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<v Speaker 11>her wins down and she took photos of a man

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<v Speaker 11>standing with carrying a firearm open carry, and the man

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<v Speaker 11>stepped to her window and said, I don't want this

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<v Speaker 11>on Facebook. Delete it, and she did and then she

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<v Speaker 11>drove off and she it was called in as an

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<v Speaker 11>information only because there was no crime. There was no

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<v Speaker 11>crime committed, so we took that report on the fourteenth

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<v Speaker 11>as an information only. The next one that we have

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<v Speaker 11>and these are the only two actual reports that we

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<v Speaker 11>have where citizens actually reported to us something, and that

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<v Speaker 11>is a man who on the tenth he was sitting

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01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 11>to stop sign and a man approached his window and

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01:05:55.679 --> 01:06:00.440
<v Speaker 11>said who was open carrying and said, you know you

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01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.280
<v Speaker 11>you don't need to be here, you should leave. And

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01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:08.960
<v Speaker 11>the man and then the driver that he wasn't standing

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01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.440
<v Speaker 11>in front of the vehicle. He didn't point the gun

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01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.679
<v Speaker 11>at the man. He stepped away from the car, and

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01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:18.840
<v Speaker 11>the man turned left and left and left Lincoln Heights.

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01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 11>And that happened on the tenth. After the man talked

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01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 11>to the reporter who he just named, he went up

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01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:29.199
<v Speaker 11>to this man who was in the car. He went

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01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.800
<v Speaker 11>up to our Sycamore Township location and filed a report

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01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:35.920
<v Speaker 11>yesterday at like four point thirty in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was then.

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01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.159
<v Speaker 11>You know that what got routed to our CIS division,

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01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.039
<v Speaker 11>which is our Criminal Investigation Division, and it's already been

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01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:51.440
<v Speaker 11>assigned to a detective to investigate. And those are the

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01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:54.679
<v Speaker 11>two reports we have. And literally, I mean you know,

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01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 11>the thing that is alleged to be something that was

1277
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:03.239
<v Speaker 11>a complaint was filed last night at four thirty in

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01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:03.719
<v Speaker 11>the evening.

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01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 1>If somebody would drive I talked to another inchoir reporter

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01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:11.719
<v Speaker 1>other than Ferrara, who told me that there are armed

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01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:16.719
<v Speaker 1>men standing on street corners with some aimatic weapons. May

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01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I say, that's not illegal just to stand there. We're

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01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.639
<v Speaker 1>an open carry state. However, it is illegal to point

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01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the gun at somebody in order them to do something

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01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that could be kidnapping, could be inducing panic, could be

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01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 1>impersonating a police officer. The one report was that the

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01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 1>man and the photos in the inquir story from a

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01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:40.719
<v Speaker 1>couple of days previous, it looks rather intimidating to have

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01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:44.440
<v Speaker 1>armed men pointing rifles at citizens, and in fact, in

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01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:49.079
<v Speaker 1>the story it says maybe a report wasn't filed that

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01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 1>in the Wendy's drive through some of these armed men

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01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 1>who are defending Lincoln Ice would walk up to someone

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01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:57.559
<v Speaker 1>in the drive through and point a weapon in the

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01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:00.559
<v Speaker 1>direction of somebody waiting for their hamburger. Have you gotten

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01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 1>a report on that one?

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<v Speaker 11>I have not.

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01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:04.559
<v Speaker 3>I have not. Bill.

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01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:06.920
<v Speaker 11>I'm telling you, we do not have anything in writing.

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01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:10.679
<v Speaker 11>We have no one calling our districts or calling us

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01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:14.440
<v Speaker 11>to allege any of that happening. Our deputy did respond

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01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.119
<v Speaker 11>to a call to come to Wendy's. He spoke to

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01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:20.079
<v Speaker 11>the manager there and the manager asked him, what are

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01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:24.000
<v Speaker 11>these men who on carrying weapons? And our deputy said, well,

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01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:28.720
<v Speaker 11>it's open carry. And just like with the neo Nazis.

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01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:33.880
<v Speaker 11>The Ohio legislature has an open carry for Ohio. We

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01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:37.880
<v Speaker 11>cannot go and arrest anyone for open carry. And that

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01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 11>is what the manager said to our deputy. He didn't

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01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.560
<v Speaker 11>tell our deputy that anybody was pointing a weapon. None

1309
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 11>of that was alligated. We have none of that on paper.

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01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 11>If somebody has a picture of it, please send it

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01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:54.479
<v Speaker 11>to us. I mean, you know, these are things that

1312
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:58.039
<v Speaker 11>in the police world. In the cop world, we write

1313
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:02.199
<v Speaker 11>it down. We write down times, down places, And the

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01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.600
<v Speaker 11>deputy said when he talked to the Wendy's manager, the

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01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:07.760
<v Speaker 11>Wendy's manager said, okay, I just wanted to ask the question.

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01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, as far as what message, as the chief law

1317
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 1>enforcement officer of Hamlin A County, would you send to

1318
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:20.039
<v Speaker 1>residents of Lincoln Heights or the area that would dress

1319
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:23.960
<v Speaker 1>up looking like police. They have emblems. One of the times,

1320
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 1>according to the inquiry reporter, he said, we are the police,

1321
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and that standing on street corners is one thing. Pointing

1322
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a rifle at somebody it's like almost a kidnapping charge.

1323
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:34.720
<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, what message would you send to

1324
01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:37.479
<v Speaker 1>those who continue to continue to do this kind of

1325
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:38.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff in Lincoln Heights.

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01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.319
<v Speaker 11>Well, first of all, I would like to I would

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01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 11>like to differentiate between an allegation and an actual provable fact.

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01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:52.560
<v Speaker 11>We have no evidence that that happened, other than someone

1329
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.920
<v Speaker 11>saying it happened. Again, if we have a picture, if

1330
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 11>we have an actual report a street of something for

1331
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 11>us go investigate. Deputies have been called to certain areas

1332
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:05.560
<v Speaker 11>and when they get there, they observe a man standing

1333
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:09.079
<v Speaker 11>with an open carry. And what the message to everyone,

1334
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:13.439
<v Speaker 11>not just Lincoln Heights, but everyone. Look, law enforcement is

1335
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:18.720
<v Speaker 11>being as absolutely transparent about this and as anybody can,

1336
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:21.800
<v Speaker 11>right because there are certain things that are under investigation.

1337
01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:26.119
<v Speaker 11>But every department that's been involved in this has released

1338
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 11>body cam, has addressed public people, have addressed public meetings.

1339
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.520
<v Speaker 11>I mean, we're all working to push out this information

1340
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:40.600
<v Speaker 11>to vilify the police, any police, any police officer, to

1341
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:45.199
<v Speaker 11>vilify that person because that officer has not been given

1342
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:50.920
<v Speaker 11>the tools by the Ohio state legislators to do something

1343
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:55.920
<v Speaker 11>to make arrest in those situations, to confront people for IDs,

1344
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:59.119
<v Speaker 11>which we can't demand an ID. We can't do the

1345
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 11>things that we would want to do. And I'm pleading

1346
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:06.520
<v Speaker 11>with everyone to you know what, there's no reason to

1347
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:11.479
<v Speaker 11>vilify police officers. I guarantee you no one was involved

1348
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.479
<v Speaker 11>with the Nazis. No one knew this was coming. I've

1349
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:19.840
<v Speaker 11>talked to numerous people, numerous chiefs all around Hamilton County.

1350
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 11>Every one of us is outraged. Every officer is outraged,

1351
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:26.880
<v Speaker 11>and I'm begging people to please keep your.

1352
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Head about this.

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01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 11>Look, you know, we're doing what we can. If there's

1354
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:33.560
<v Speaker 11>any way we can bring some of these men to

1355
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:36.680
<v Speaker 11>justice who were spewing all of that hate speech and

1356
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 11>so forth, we will. But you know, there has to

1357
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 11>be a process. I don't care where we are or

1358
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.840
<v Speaker 11>what department you're with. There's a process in government to

1359
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.880
<v Speaker 11>make things happen and do things so you don't get sued,

1360
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:52.439
<v Speaker 11>so people don't get shot and so forth, and people

1361
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:56.199
<v Speaker 11>aren't injured. And our deputies and the officers that responded

1362
01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:00.600
<v Speaker 11>did everything they could, everything they knew to do to

1363
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:02.560
<v Speaker 11>de escalate, and that's what we're trained for.

1364
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:06.479
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff mccuffey, do you have a specific person in Lincoln

1365
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Heights who's like a command or somebody in charge who's

1366
01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 1>physically present daily or is it something on a nine

1367
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to one one basis someone is sent there? Is there

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01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like a sub station or sheriff's deputy sitting there day

1369
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:21.520
<v Speaker 1>by day or is it a nine to one one

1370
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:22.520
<v Speaker 1>call then you go there.

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<v Speaker 11>No, No, our station is manned and uh and it

1372
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.279
<v Speaker 11>is in Lincoln Heights. It sits dead in Lincoln Heights,

1373
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:34.560
<v Speaker 11>and it is it's a substation of type, right, But

1374
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.159
<v Speaker 11>that's where our officers are, Our patrol cars are there,

1375
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 11>Our officers are in and out of that building. It

1376
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 11>is very very easy to be in Lincoln Heights and

1377
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 11>contact a patrol officer if you're there, if you come

1378
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.960
<v Speaker 11>to the district, And those are things we encourage people

1379
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:53.439
<v Speaker 11>to do if they have a complaint or they can

1380
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 11>make a call. One thing, I want to point out

1381
01:12:56.079 --> 01:12:58.239
<v Speaker 11>these nine one one calls, and I know nine one

1382
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:02.399
<v Speaker 11>wants to be flooded with calls about out men carrying weapons,

1383
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:05.760
<v Speaker 11>men standing on a street corner armed with a rifle,

1384
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:09.319
<v Speaker 11>and so forth. Look, you know, I have to tell

1385
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:11.319
<v Speaker 11>people and I have to point them in the right direction.

1386
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 11>It's not the police. Those are your Ohio legislators that

1387
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 11>need to make better gun safety laws and whatever they're

1388
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.560
<v Speaker 11>going to do. But as soon as they say it's

1389
01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.039
<v Speaker 11>okay to open carry, I mean our hands are tied,

1390
01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:30.199
<v Speaker 11>and I you know, whether you're a hate speech person

1391
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.840
<v Speaker 11>a Nazi, which is you know, I just can't even

1392
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:38.960
<v Speaker 11>say enough, how just disgusted I am with the Nazis

1393
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:42.239
<v Speaker 11>and what their messaging is and so forth. I'm disgusted.

1394
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 11>But you can't differentiate. You can't say, well, the Nazis

1395
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:49.560
<v Speaker 11>get to carry open carry and nobody else does. Well,

1396
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:52.319
<v Speaker 11>that's not realistic. And if we want to change the

1397
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:55.319
<v Speaker 11>laws and we want to make this less of a wildlifless,

1398
01:13:55.760 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 11>the Ohio legislators need to get get together, get working

1399
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.319
<v Speaker 11>and legislate this so that the police have some options.

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01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:08.239
<v Speaker 1>So if someone in Lincoln Heights at a Wendy's drive

1401
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.720
<v Speaker 1>through has a person walking up to them appearing to

1402
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.239
<v Speaker 1>want to look like a police officer, the photo looks

1403
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:17.479
<v Speaker 1>like someone who might be a cop and wants to

1404
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:21.199
<v Speaker 1>question them. That person, assuming it doesn't happen in the

1405
01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:23.600
<v Speaker 1>presence of a police officer, and most crime does not,

1406
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that person's got to follow a complaint and say, essentially academically,

1407
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that would be kidnapping. You can't point a gun at

1408
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody and say unless you do something, something else is

1409
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:34.960
<v Speaker 1>going to happen.

1410
01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 11>Correct, Well, that's exactly right, Bill, That's exactly right. We

1411
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.720
<v Speaker 11>need to know. We need a report because we need time,

1412
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 11>we need date, we need location, we need any witnesses.

1413
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:51.279
<v Speaker 11>We need all of that information so that we can

1414
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:55.199
<v Speaker 11>follow this down. Listen, our officers and deputies in Hamilton

1415
01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:59.399
<v Speaker 11>County are incredibly courageous. They put themselves on the line

1416
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.239
<v Speaker 11>every day, all day, and I'm asking the citizens to

1417
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:06.479
<v Speaker 11>please respect that. I mean, we can't run down just

1418
01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:10.479
<v Speaker 11>because somebody you know, calls you, for instance, and says, hey,

1419
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.159
<v Speaker 11>this happened to me, but yet we have no record

1420
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.119
<v Speaker 11>of it. We have no report, we have no information.

1421
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.880
<v Speaker 11>You know, it's ridiculous to think that somehow we're responsible

1422
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:22.960
<v Speaker 11>for not responding.

1423
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:27.039
<v Speaker 1>How about this one the incidents, there was an information

1424
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.560
<v Speaker 1>on only on the fourteenth, a woman in a car,

1425
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.439
<v Speaker 1>a man on the tenth, and last night, an inquiry

1426
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.920
<v Speaker 1>reporter indirectly or directly filed a complaint about the gun

1427
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.920
<v Speaker 1>pointed at the reporter, who's David Ferrera. And that's what

1428
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned earlier and at this point, and are you

1429
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:48.399
<v Speaker 1>going to thoroughly investigate these allegations of really crimes committed

1430
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:51.800
<v Speaker 1>by Lincoln Heights or others who appear to be police

1431
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:55.239
<v Speaker 1>who point guns at people and say do something. Are

1432
01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 1>you going to actively investigate that over the next few days.

1433
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:01.239
<v Speaker 11>Of course I am, and I would do it, whether

1434
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:04.399
<v Speaker 11>it was in Lincoln Heights or Sycamore Township or anywhere

1435
01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.359
<v Speaker 11>else we patrol, and every other police chief in this

1436
01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:10.239
<v Speaker 11>arena would do the same. You know, if we get

1437
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:13.199
<v Speaker 11>a complaint which I have not seen or heard of,

1438
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 11>any complaint that this reporter filed saying that someone pointed

1439
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.640
<v Speaker 11>a gun at him, and I will, after this call,

1440
01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:24.039
<v Speaker 11>promise you, I will call the supervisors and majors and

1441
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:26.479
<v Speaker 11>so forth and run this down to find out. But

1442
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:29.880
<v Speaker 11>before you talk to me on the phone, I made calls.

1443
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.800
<v Speaker 11>I talked to the lieutenant, the commander of Lincoln Heights.

1444
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:34.319
<v Speaker 11>I talked to other majors.

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01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:35.520
<v Speaker 5>What have we seen?

1446
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:38.520
<v Speaker 11>What has been reported? And the two things we just

1447
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:42.039
<v Speaker 11>talked about were the only things. No one has alligated

1448
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 11>that a weapon has been pointed at him.

1449
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:45.239
<v Speaker 5>Nobody.

1450
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, David Ferrara said that about two hours ago,

1451
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and off the air. I'll send you a cell phone

1452
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.560
<v Speaker 1>number to expedite things. I have a text here from

1453
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:57.359
<v Speaker 1>a police officer who says, are you tracking down the

1454
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 1>neo Nazis because they used a U haul with a

1455
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.000
<v Speaker 1>license plate from I think Kentucky. Is that something across

1456
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:06.399
<v Speaker 1>state lines the FBI would do or is that something

1457
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:10.800
<v Speaker 1>are you interested in identifying the neo Nazis at all?

1458
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:13.560
<v Speaker 11>Well, first of all, I addressed all of that bill

1459
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.119
<v Speaker 11>in my press conference yesterday, and the purpose of the

1460
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:21.079
<v Speaker 11>press conference was to clarify those things for the public. Right,

1461
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:23.359
<v Speaker 11>there are certain things that we are allowed to do

1462
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 11>by law. There are other things that I have asked

1463
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:32.279
<v Speaker 11>the county prosecutor to research and potentially investigate. I've talked

1464
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:36.199
<v Speaker 11>to the lead special officer in the FBI for the

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<v Speaker 11>Cincinnati Division and the Ohio Criminal Investigations of EUREA, and

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01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.319
<v Speaker 11>you know, I have tentacles out to all those people,

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01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:50.960
<v Speaker 11>and everyone's working in a legal way to do what

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01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:54.159
<v Speaker 11>they can do. And you know, we're working with other

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01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:58.159
<v Speaker 11>agencies that also track these hate crimes and so forth

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01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:01.439
<v Speaker 11>that aren't policing agencies so that they can share their

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01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.840
<v Speaker 11>information with us. Now, you know, that's the extent of

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01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.920
<v Speaker 11>what we can do, and I made that very clear.

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01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:10.279
<v Speaker 11>And you know, once again, I want to emphasize the

1474
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:14.479
<v Speaker 11>officers that responded to this were under extreme stress. You know,

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01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:18.199
<v Speaker 11>they were acting as they're trained to act, which is

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01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:21.079
<v Speaker 11>to de escalate. Get these men out of the area.

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01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:26.319
<v Speaker 11>And again I call for people, please stand down, do

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01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:30.359
<v Speaker 11>not threaten our officers, don't don't do things that escalate this.

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01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.479
<v Speaker 11>We're working as hard as we can. And there isn't

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01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 11>one person I've talked to in uniform that isn't, you know,

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01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:39.640
<v Speaker 11>absolutely on board.

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01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:40.640
<v Speaker 5>This was disgusting.

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01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.800
<v Speaker 11>It should never go on. And we're going to absolutely

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01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:48.039
<v Speaker 11>train and be better, you know, and hopefully I don't know,

1485
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 11>you know, be be not surprised is the way I

1486
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:54.239
<v Speaker 11>should put it. Not surprised when this happens again, and

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01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:56.600
<v Speaker 11>orchestrate our response.

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01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And it will, I'm sure will I will. And lastly,

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01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.319
<v Speaker 1>you told me off there crime is down seventy percent

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01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.479
<v Speaker 1>on Lincoln Heights. Is that correct? So the last five

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01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.319
<v Speaker 1>to three or four, five, six, seven years are the

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01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:09.560
<v Speaker 1>crime rates way down?

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01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:11.439
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:11.800
<v Speaker 10>It is.

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01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:14.680
<v Speaker 11>In twenty fifteen, and I have these numbers prepared. We

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01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 11>call it Part one, which is serious crimes, felonies, robbery, shootings, murders,

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01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:23.239
<v Speaker 11>anything like that. There were one hundred and three that

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01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:27.279
<v Speaker 11>were investigated and so forth in twenty fifteen and Now

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01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:30.520
<v Speaker 11>in twenty twenty four there are sixty six. That's a

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01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:34.119
<v Speaker 11>reduction of about thirty five percent. For Part two crimes,

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01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:38.720
<v Speaker 11>which are misdemeanors excluding traffic, which would be like disorderly conduct,

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01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.159
<v Speaker 11>drug abuse, DUI, things like that. Uh, there were two

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01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:47.560
<v Speaker 11>hundred and sixty six that were investigated and in fifteen,

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01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:51.600
<v Speaker 11>in twenty twenty four there were one hundred and forty four.

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01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.239
<v Speaker 11>That's a forty five percent reduction. And that is where

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01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:58.279
<v Speaker 11>I get, you know, a conservative number of seventy percent.

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01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:01.880
<v Speaker 11>Crime is down seventy percent in Lincoln Heights. And it's

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01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:04.000
<v Speaker 11>not only just due to the police officers, which are

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01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:07.239
<v Speaker 11>doing a great job over there, all right, an excellent job,

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01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:11.000
<v Speaker 11>but it's also the community that's cooperating. The community wants

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01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 11>crime down, and we've had great, great cooperation from the

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01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:19.680
<v Speaker 11>Lincoln Heights mayor from their council. We feel very comfortable

1513
01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:23.680
<v Speaker 11>talking to them, and you know they're helping with this

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01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:27.560
<v Speaker 11>with a lot of youth initiatives and things like that. So, yes,

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01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:29.319
<v Speaker 11>crime is down on Lincoln Heights.

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01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Fine, we got to go, But Sheriff McGuffey, thank you,

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01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'll share with you with his permission, the telephone

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01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.960
<v Speaker 1>number of the reporter who had a gun pointed at him. Also,

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01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Jim Meister, said that he lives in

1520
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Heights. He tells this person quote, I'm calling the police,

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01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and that this person with the gun the rifle pointed

1522
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:52.039
<v Speaker 1>at him and said we are the police. And so

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01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Jim Meister is another one. If he'll step forward, raise

1524
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:57.319
<v Speaker 1>his hands, go okay, this is what happened to me.

1525
01:20:57.640 --> 01:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>This is who did it?

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01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:02.199
<v Speaker 11>Away, you go, yep, report it to us. It will

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01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:05.640
<v Speaker 11>be investigated to the fullest, and if there has been

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01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.279
<v Speaker 11>a crime committed, we will certainly prosecute that to its fullest.

1529
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Submit it to prosecutor's office, and let's see what's happened

1530
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to rest here it out. Hopefully crime is also down.

1531
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>But according to this reporter for the inquired, there have

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01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:21.359
<v Speaker 1>been numerous examples of guns pointed at people. And I'm

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01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.159
<v Speaker 1>going to make you. I'll give you the number with

1534
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.439
<v Speaker 1>his permission, and then if that happens away we go.

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01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.520
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, absolutely, Bill, and thank you very much. And my

1536
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:33.359
<v Speaker 11>appeal to the public, please make that clear. You know,

1537
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:37.640
<v Speaker 11>give us a chance, give us some room. Our people

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01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:41.640
<v Speaker 11>that are wearing that uniform, they're people too. They have feelings.

1539
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:44.880
<v Speaker 11>They're working hard, they work day and night. They're doing

1540
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 11>the right things.

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01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.119
<v Speaker 1>So thank you very much, Sheriff McGuffey, thank you very much.

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01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:51.399
<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Thank you very much. Let's continue with

1543
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:54.039
<v Speaker 1>more news. Is nuxt At Rome of the Reds News Radio,

1544
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:55.640
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 10>We gave them, I believe three hundred and fifty billion dollars,

1546
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:02.039
<v Speaker 10>but let's say something less than that. But it's a lot,

1547
01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:06.079
<v Speaker 10>and we have to equalize with Europe because Europe has

1548
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:09.119
<v Speaker 10>given us given a very much smaller.

1549
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Percentage in that.

1550
01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:12.920
<v Speaker 10>I think Europe has given a hundred billion and we've

1551
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:17.720
<v Speaker 10>given let's say three hundred plus. And it's more important

1552
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:18.720
<v Speaker 10>for them than it.

1553
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Is for us.

1554
01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:22.239
<v Speaker 10>We have an ocean in between and they don't. But

1555
01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.359
<v Speaker 10>where is all the money that's been given? Where is

1556
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 10>it going? And nobody I've never seen an accounting of it.

1557
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 10>We give hundreds of billions of dollars.

1558
01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't see any accounting. So I want to see piece.

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01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Speaker 10>Look, you know why I want because I don't want

1560
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:40.800
<v Speaker 10>all these people killed anymore. I'm looking at people that

1561
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:41.960
<v Speaker 10>is that we gave him.

1562
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.

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01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Now.

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01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:56.399
<v Speaker 1>First of our rock. I need your comments not only

1565
01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:59.000
<v Speaker 1>about Pete Rose and what's happening there out of Goodyear,

1566
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:03.159
<v Speaker 1>about the price remarks about Ukraine, but also about armed

1567
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>militias standing around the street corners in Lincoln Heights looking

1568
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like Lynja warriors. Your comments and all of that, if

1569
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>any we want, we want first Pete Rose, Pete Rose,

1570
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>give me Pete So they're not comment on Pete Rose,

1571
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:17.279
<v Speaker 1>they're not. Commissioner.

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01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:21.119
<v Speaker 8>Commissioner mister was asked about Pete Rose, you know, passed

1573
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:24.439
<v Speaker 8>away anything about the now that with the getting into

1574
01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:29.159
<v Speaker 8>the Hall of Fame, and he just comment that same thing.

1575
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:32.239
<v Speaker 8>All he is, all he's worried about is like he's

1576
01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:35.720
<v Speaker 8>not worried that the Dodgers are spending eighty six billion

1577
01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:38.319
<v Speaker 8>dollars for a baseball team. Well, the rest of the

1578
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:42.039
<v Speaker 8>league just goes to, you know what, you know, that's okay,

1579
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.640
<v Speaker 8>that's okay. No, but the Reds are wearing fourteen patches.

1580
01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:48.760
<v Speaker 8>It's correct, they gotta and they got a Pete Ros night.

1581
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:51.439
<v Speaker 8>So I don't know, maybe they'll invite him and maybe

1582
01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 8>he'll see the light.

1583
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:53.920
<v Speaker 12>If you go on my Twitter right now, you will

1584
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:56.920
<v Speaker 12>see Peter Rose Junior just tweeted a picture of his

1585
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.720
<v Speaker 12>son PJ saw that in the cages at that swing,

1586
01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.199
<v Speaker 12>looking good, just like the old man.

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01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.279
<v Speaker 1>That's right. I don't know, but at least at fourteen

1588
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:09.319
<v Speaker 1>will be on the uniforms. But uh, you know, betting

1589
01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>paraphernalia and the betting sites are all over everywhere content

1590
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and suddenly betting and baseball is wrong and I'm looking,

1591
01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, God bless all the betting sites MGM and

1592
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>of course DraftKings, Sportsbook Dot, God bless them. If you

1593
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>want to gamble, gamble, I want to smoke pot, Go

1594
01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>ahead and smoke pot. You're an Adultoo what you gotta do?

1595
01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:30.520
<v Speaker 12>Let me ask you, and I agree to do what

1596
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:31.840
<v Speaker 12>you want to do. But how do you think that's

1597
01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:35.479
<v Speaker 12>going to work out? The pot legalization and the widespread

1598
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:37.880
<v Speaker 12>gambling legalizing. How's that going to work out in ten

1599
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:38.920
<v Speaker 12>years in your opinion?

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01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, talk to the little rock, because I think you

1601
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and I are over the humps. Teg Man's over the hump.

1602
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to start drinking all of a sudden.

1603
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to start smoking all of a sudden.

1604
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope at my age, I'm gonna start gambling things away.

1605
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I foubt that's going to happen. But when kids grew

1606
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>up in an environment in which gambling legal and illegal

1607
01:24:55.960 --> 01:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>use of marijuana and or other loocinogenic drugs, uh, and

1608
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.279
<v Speaker 1>don't get married, don't have a wife, don't have kids,

1609
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>don't get educated. All of a sudden, I'm I'm not

1610
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>sure in ten or twenty years, if you're twenty five

1611
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>or forty five years old, you want to smoke pot

1612
01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and have a martini, have at it. But we're sending

1613
01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>messages to the little rocks of the world that you know,

1614
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:19.079
<v Speaker 1>betting is good and uh, betting on baseball is bad.

1615
01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>However it's good. And then you're told don't smoke pot.

1616
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>But then okay, you got you smoke pot. It's legal.

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01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.079
<v Speaker 1>The state's making a hundred million dollars maybe up to

1618
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>two hundred million dollars a year, and alcohol and beer

1619
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>is ubiquitous. Adults should make adult decisions. But we're conditioning

1620
01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:37.479
<v Speaker 1>young folks to think differently about these things. And we

1621
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>thought about.

1622
01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:41.720
<v Speaker 12>Parents I talk to that have kids that are teenagers,

1623
01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:45.520
<v Speaker 12>especially teenage boys, that they say all they do is

1624
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.119
<v Speaker 12>is do go on the phone and do the game

1625
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:49.560
<v Speaker 12>week like they don't go out. They don't go to parties,

1626
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.159
<v Speaker 12>they don't go chase girls, and don't go call girls up.

1627
01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>And ask them out to go on a date.

1628
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.319
<v Speaker 12>They sit around on their phones and they and they

1629
01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:57.399
<v Speaker 12>gamble online.

1630
01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. I hate to say this, but maybe not

1631
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>yet in your life, Rock, but you're gonna be confronted

1632
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>with a circumstance where some of your male sons in

1633
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>their teenage years are going to be looking porn and

1634
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>probably ten to twenty percent of boys and not girls

1635
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>so much. Boys are going to be addicted to porn.

1636
01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And you put the porn with the drugs, the alcohol,

1637
01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the smoking, the pot and education not being valued. I'm

1638
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>not sure long term this is good for our society

1639
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to be starting now.

1640
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:25.840
<v Speaker 12>Agreed, Yeah, free and do what you want to do

1641
01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:28.840
<v Speaker 12>all that, but it's I can't see how it's gonna

1642
01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:29.319
<v Speaker 12>be a good thing.

1643
01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Got a parent, got gotta be a good parent, Gotta

1644
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>be now. Lastly, I watched all the shows simultaneously, and

1645
01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>ESPN this morning and also Fox Sports this morning are

1646
01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:44.079
<v Speaker 1>saying again the Bengals have the window open and they

1647
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>don't need another T. Higgins. What they need is two

1648
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>or three offensive linemen to sign them and then trade

1649
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>them as the way to go, because this guy's gonna

1650
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:55.319
<v Speaker 1>make what twenty seven twenty eight million dollars for one year,

1651
01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>be twenty two million last year, but that the top

1652
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:01.239
<v Speaker 1>receivers are making up to forty million dollars a year.

1653
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Half of that guaranteed your comments, I understand that.

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01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:07.800
<v Speaker 12>But there's a line of thinking that I largely agree with,

1655
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:11.000
<v Speaker 12>and that is sign your own right. Guys that you

1656
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:13.640
<v Speaker 12>drafts and guys you developed, guys you've had in your program.

1657
01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:17.159
<v Speaker 12>If they're productive for you, and especially in T's case,

1658
01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:19.000
<v Speaker 12>ultra productive, sign them.

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01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1660
01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:22.479
<v Speaker 12>I agree with getting offensive lineman. The problem will he

1661
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:26.359
<v Speaker 12>is there's no great game changing linemen that are going

1662
01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:28.800
<v Speaker 12>to be on the free agent market buying large. Maybe

1663
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:31.319
<v Speaker 12>a couple, but usually if you get those guys, you

1664
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:32.399
<v Speaker 12>can't find those guys.

1665
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And so when you find one, teams don't let them go.

1666
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And the guys that they do let go, it's usually

1667
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:38.319
<v Speaker 1>for a reason.

1668
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:41.520
<v Speaker 12>They're old, or they're not as good as everyone thinks

1669
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.000
<v Speaker 12>they are, or they're maybe a little bit of a malcontent.

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01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:47.640
<v Speaker 12>So you know, you can't find those linemen in free agency.

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<v Speaker 12>You've got to draft them and develop them and the

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<v Speaker 12>Bengals have not been able to do that well.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, wels They're going to keep that.

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<v Speaker 8>They want to keep number nine happy. So whatever ES says,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, number number nine has been has been negotiating

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<v Speaker 8>for them for what three months or almost all season

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01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:10.399
<v Speaker 8>Megan's Chase Hendrickson. It's like they got to they want

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<v Speaker 8>to keep him happy. They don't care about what ESPN says.

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01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:15.840
<v Speaker 8>They want to keep number nine happy.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I think they know that you're not going to

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01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:21.640
<v Speaker 12>build a defense of the caliber of the Eagles in

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01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:24.960
<v Speaker 12>one offseason. It's impossible, right, So what do you do

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<v Speaker 12>with the limited time and limited resources. One class of

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01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:31.640
<v Speaker 12>free agency, one class a draft. You sign the guy

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<v Speaker 12>that you know is great in your system, t Higgins

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01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:38.039
<v Speaker 12>one healthy and just and you outscore people. You get

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<v Speaker 12>a little bit better at defense. Okay, again, you're not

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01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:42.800
<v Speaker 12>gonna have the you know, the eighty five Bears or

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<v Speaker 12>the you know, the twenty twenty four Eagles defense. But

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01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.880
<v Speaker 12>get a little bit better at defense and keep your

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01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:50.640
<v Speaker 12>offensive firepower and outscore people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well at that point, Colin Coward, but one of the

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01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>stars of morning Sports Talk, said that Joe Barrow will

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01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:01.039
<v Speaker 1>be gone within three years and I'm listening to this,

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01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, stop it, stop it right now. I don't

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01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>want to hear Joe Burrow demanding to be traded. He

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01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>said he's gonna pull the old number nine is going

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01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to be pulled out again and said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't take it anymore. Heisman Trophy winner, first team

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01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:17.399
<v Speaker 1>All American Southern Colis Finals. It's gonna be one of

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01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>those situations and that would be disgusting. And I hope

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01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen. I hope it doesn't happen too.

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01:29:22.520 --> 01:29:24.560
<v Speaker 12>But I mean, as long as the Bengals continue to

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01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:27.800
<v Speaker 12>upgrade that team and make it clear to him and

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01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:31.319
<v Speaker 12>everybody that we're doing everything possible under the sun to

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01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:35.760
<v Speaker 12>draft well, to acquire great free agents, to develop our team,

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01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:36.640
<v Speaker 12>to coach our team.

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01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're doing all that and then the guy leaves,

1709
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.399
<v Speaker 1>what can you do? But is that happening? If that happen,

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01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't first see that happening. I do not.

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<v Speaker 8>And if he if they keep winning, if they start winning, yeah,

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01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:48.640
<v Speaker 8>then he's gonna thing you gotta win.

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<v Speaker 12>But if if they do, if they have another year

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01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.960
<v Speaker 12>like this past year where they can't stop anybody, and

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01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 12>the run game isn't great, and you know you'll find

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01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:58.880
<v Speaker 12>yourself in a situation where you're not winning games.

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01:29:59.319 --> 01:30:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, guys can upset and they want to go to

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01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a winner. You old rock. The experts say you had

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01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.439
<v Speaker 1>an elite quarterback top three in the league. You have

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01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:12.079
<v Speaker 1>the elite receiving corp number one MVP, number of Triple

1721
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Crown winner and number three you got Trey Henderson lead

1722
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the How do you lead the league in sacks? How

1723
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.239
<v Speaker 1>do you have the Triple Crown winner in receiving and

1724
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is the quarterback and you go nine to eight,

1725
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:26.319
<v Speaker 1>don't make the playoffs? How's that possible? That's a tough one.

1726
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 12>The biggest thing that needs to happen that I don't

1728
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:32.039
<v Speaker 12>hear people talking about is the Bengals need Marius Mims

1729
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:33.800
<v Speaker 12>to show up this year in year two.

1730
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>And be a dude, bud dude.

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01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:39.800
<v Speaker 12>They need him again. They draft him. The guy looks

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01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:42.119
<v Speaker 12>like a Donasi. I mean, he had did a lot

1733
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:43.760
<v Speaker 12>of great things this year, but they need him to

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01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:47.119
<v Speaker 12>be a cornerstone offensive tackle for the next eight years.

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01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:50.960
<v Speaker 12>If that happens, that's a huge, huge piece that goes

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01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:52.479
<v Speaker 12>well into them being a great team.

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01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, segment, give me into sports quickly because time

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01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is a wasted will.

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01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.119
<v Speaker 8>Lead the studt reporters April service of your local temp

1740
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:04.560
<v Speaker 8>star in air conditioning dealers Thamestar quality of confeeling Cincinnati

1741
01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:07.680
<v Speaker 8>call Sheldon Braun at Braun Heating at five to one,

1742
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:14.079
<v Speaker 8>three three, eight, five, seventy seven sixty five. But speaking

1743
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:18.039
<v Speaker 8>of the National Football League, twenty four to seven Sports

1744
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:23.760
<v Speaker 8>reports former Bengals defensive tackle Doma pop peco So this

1745
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.199
<v Speaker 8>is going to be the new defensive line coach for

1746
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:30.000
<v Speaker 8>prime time at Colorado. It's spent eleven years in a

1747
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:34.399
<v Speaker 8>Bengals uniform. The NFL salary cap rock Saw, they say,

1748
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:36.439
<v Speaker 8>is going to fall within the range at two hundred

1749
01:31:36.439 --> 01:31:38.800
<v Speaker 8>and seventy seven and a half to two hundred and

1750
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:42.079
<v Speaker 8>eighty one and a half mill The cap has increased

1751
01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:45.920
<v Speaker 8>more than fifty three million dollars in over the last

1752
01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:46.600
<v Speaker 8>two years.

1753
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:48.720
<v Speaker 12>So let's go back and look at my last year

1754
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:50.920
<v Speaker 12>in the league two thousand and nine. Okay, the cap

1755
01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:53.479
<v Speaker 12>this year is going to be two hundred and eighty

1756
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.479
<v Speaker 12>million dollars. My last en year league two thousand and nine,

1757
01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:59.039
<v Speaker 12>it was one hundred and twenty three million. It has

1758
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 12>gone up cheese significantly, significantly.

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01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:07.000
<v Speaker 8>That's three times. That's because of right. You might as

1760
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.680
<v Speaker 8>well get my well credited too. He gets blamed for

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01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:10.359
<v Speaker 8>everything else.

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01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Effect No, he's he's responsible for the plane crash in Toronto.

1763
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>You know that a couple of days ago.

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01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:20.279
<v Speaker 12>There's so much misinformation going on out there, it's crazy.

1765
01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>The one that I see is good.

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01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:25.600
<v Speaker 12>He's cutting U cancer research programs and Elon Musk is

1767
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:29.039
<v Speaker 12>cutting this and not SpaceX. Do people not understand Elon

1768
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:31.199
<v Speaker 12>Musk does not have the power to cut anything. He

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01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:34.960
<v Speaker 12>has been given the responsibility by the President to find

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01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:38.520
<v Speaker 12>government waste, and the strategy is to find that waste,

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01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:42.239
<v Speaker 12>get the people rolled up and pissed off, which we

1772
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:44.520
<v Speaker 12>rightfully should be, and then he's got to go to

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01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:46.399
<v Speaker 12>Congress and they got to do the ones that that

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01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.039
<v Speaker 12>are cutting. Right now, nothing has been cut. We have

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01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:51.680
<v Speaker 12>not gotten any more money back from us, none of

1776
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:54.359
<v Speaker 12>that stuff. But it has been identified and hopefully the

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01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:57.039
<v Speaker 12>morons in Congress will come together and pass bill say

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01:32:57.079 --> 01:32:59.279
<v Speaker 12>we're not we're not paying for that, that, that that that,

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01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:03.199
<v Speaker 12>and that he is Elon Musk has not cut anything

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01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:06.720
<v Speaker 12>from any anybody. You don't have that power, can do

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01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:08.079
<v Speaker 12>people understand that I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Think and I don't think point that's foolish. Thank you, Yes, Mike,

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01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you. At some point one hundred and twenty five

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01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>year old, we have eighteen thousand Americans getting Social Security

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01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:20.079
<v Speaker 1>checks that are older than one hundred and twenty five

1786
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:24.079
<v Speaker 1>years old. Somehow that is not accurate. Somehow that must

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01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>be stopped. Are you willing to give up your Social

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01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Security check? Yes? Yes, I will, and say that, promise,

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01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>promise that government spending. I don't need it. I'd like

1790
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to have it a course, I got country club dues.

1791
01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless of people I know, rich guys like Segment

1792
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and any fingers would give up Social Security Mike McConnell

1793
01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 1>if the money went for a good purpose. I don't

1794
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.359
<v Speaker 1>want it. I don't need it save the country. Yes,

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01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But on one hand we're told we have to cut

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01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, we're told we're not cutting

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01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:58.439
<v Speaker 1>into government programs. Just give me a break. There's not

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01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty thousand Americas that are one hundred

1799
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and seventy five years old. I don't believe this is

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01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a great this is a great issue.

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01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:06.520
<v Speaker 12>For Trump and the Republicans because they have they have

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01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:11.880
<v Speaker 12>found an issue where the opponents find themselves rooting against

1803
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:13.680
<v Speaker 12>cutting government waste.

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01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>That is not a good position to be in.

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01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:17.680
<v Speaker 12>That will be plaster on every campaign they had in

1806
01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:19.119
<v Speaker 12>the midterms, all that sort of thing.

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01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna it's gonna be a yeah. So yeah, we've

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01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>got two minutes remaining. You better go a little more quickly.

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01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:28.439
<v Speaker 8>Bearcats and Bearcats at West Virginia tonight Willie at six thirty,

1810
01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:32.439
<v Speaker 8>Vanderbilt in Kentucky at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. Uh,

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01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:36.680
<v Speaker 8>let's see FC Cincinnati and FC Montagua and Honduras tonight

1812
01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:40.439
<v Speaker 8>in the CONCACAFF champions Cup. First, you're talking about, say

1813
01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:43.880
<v Speaker 8>nine to thirty on Fox Sports thirteen to sixty. Where

1814
01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:48.640
<v Speaker 8>are they playing the Concordoras Hondoras Montagua is the team?

1815
01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 8>Isn't there a basketball reader like right down the street?

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01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:55.159
<v Speaker 1>I think? So to take a left. Let's see Red's

1817
01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>getting riy, Red's getting well.

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01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:00.359
<v Speaker 8>Then they got the MLS opener and on saturd today

1819
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:04.479
<v Speaker 8>supposed to be like freezing temperatures on Saturday night at

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01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:07.319
<v Speaker 8>t QL State, what rather big hockey game this weekend

1821
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:10.760
<v Speaker 8>is the Hockey Game four Nations Championship tomorrow night, rock.

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01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you're gonna take Canada, the United States and

1823
01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Canada arch.

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01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:18.520
<v Speaker 8>Somebody said in the hallway, you're a big Nathan mccannon fan,

1825
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:21.000
<v Speaker 8>and Connor McDavid.

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01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. What may be there? Trump may fly? Oh,

1827
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:30.319
<v Speaker 1>that would be the miracle on ice too. Drop the puck,

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01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>dropped the puck u e hl action tonight.

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01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:37.199
<v Speaker 8>Our beloved Cyclones are right along the flooded river up

1830
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:39.960
<v Speaker 8>against the Toledo Walleye and the Reds getting ready for

1831
01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:43.399
<v Speaker 8>that Cactus League opener Saturday, Hunter Green on the mound

1832
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:46.279
<v Speaker 8>against those Guardians. The action right here on the seven

1833
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 8>hundred WLW. Mister Castellini, Red's owner has arrived on Red's

1834
01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:54.239
<v Speaker 8>Air Force one this morning.

1835
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Marshall.

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01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.800
<v Speaker 12>Yesterday, I suppose there's a new attitude, new Pepp and

1837
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.000
<v Speaker 12>the staff. Things are being run a little more st

1838
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 12>Wonder why we're rocking and rolling out there.

1839
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Frantona Tito laying it down. Well, I'm gonna play golf

1840
01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>with him when Marty get when he gets Bock, we're

1841
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to Kenwood and we're gonna play for some money.

1842
01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I like to get some of that five million dollars

1843
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in my pocket. But uh, segment Rock, thank you all

1844
01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>being with you at five o'clock segment. Get me out

1845
01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Scoote Report, please, will you?

1846
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:20.600
<v Speaker 8>And honor of another cold day here at the Tri

1847
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.199
<v Speaker 8>Stays and looking for some warmth, we leave you with

1848
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:26.600
<v Speaker 8>the immortal words of the Stood Report.

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01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>We will bring championship baseball to Cincinnati on seven hundred

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01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:33.199
<v Speaker 1>WLW