Speaker 1: My Billy Cunning up the Great American welcome this war.
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday afternoon in the tri State. The weather is terrible,
Speaker 1: a couple of inches of snow thither and fro. But
Speaker 1: within a week or two things should be back to normal.
Speaker 1: Red Spaceball kicks off this weekend with Hunter Green on
Speaker 1: the Mound, of course against the Cleveland Guardians and more.
Speaker 1: But until then, the last twelve days a lot of
Speaker 1: the media has been captivated with the idea of these
Speaker 1: so called neo Nazis from somewhere in Kentucky having a
Speaker 1: U haul and standing over the top of seventy five
Speaker 1: and marching thither and fro with weapons displayed. And because
Speaker 1: of Brandenburg versus Ohio, there's not much law enforcement can
Speaker 1: do unless they engage in behavior words. In fact, hate
Speaker 1: speech is protected by the US Constitution. On the left
Speaker 1: or the right, these neo Nazis don't represent me, don't
Speaker 1: represent you, that don't represent Christopher Smitherman. They represent nothing.
Speaker 1: But they're small, bigot a opinions. But nonetheless they're causing
Speaker 1: quite a bit of difficulty. And man with perspective on
Speaker 1: this is the former vice mayor of our city, Christopher
Speaker 1: Smitherman and Christopher has been about about twelve days since
Speaker 1: this thing erupted, and all hell's breaking loose thither and fro,
Speaker 1: and law enforcement could identify who they are, I would
Speaker 1: think they had a rent at U haul. Drivers' licenses
Speaker 1: are produced to do such things. Having banners unfurled on
Speaker 1: top of I seventy five makes no sense. The city
Speaker 1: of Evendale could have a time manner in place of
Speaker 1: these so called protests away from I seventy five makes
Speaker 1: no sense to do that. Plus, you have a friend
Speaker 1: or two I understand that may have had someone walk
Speaker 1: up to their car with a gun. Explain how you
Speaker 1: process all this information, Former Vice Mayor Smitherman, Well, Bill.
Speaker 2: Look, my parents were born in the nineteen thirties. You know, Birmingham, Alabama, Montgomery, Alabama, met.
Speaker 3: At Tuskeee Institute.
Speaker 2: Mother was born in nineteen oh nine, lived to be
Speaker 2: one hundred and five wonderful families from the South. These
Speaker 2: organizations are domestic terrorist organizations that have terrorized in a
Speaker 2: great way, predominantly African Americans in the South, and they
Speaker 2: have evolved into all kinds of different iterations of names.
Speaker 2: The best thing you and I can do is do
Speaker 2: what you said at the beginning of your show. We
Speaker 2: condemned them. Clearly, they're not even close to the mainstream.
Speaker 2: It's been nice to see Evendale residents, very diverse, coming
Speaker 2: out and saying we're having peaceful protests and they're not welcome.
Speaker 2: But as ugly as it is, we are the great
Speaker 2: experiment the United States of America with our democracy and
Speaker 2: people's First Amendment rights. So the grotesque part of it
Speaker 2: we have to deal with in order for all of
Speaker 2: us to have our First Amendment rights. And the best
Speaker 2: thing that the community has done is just to say,
Speaker 2: as you have condemned it, it's grotesque, and let's just
Speaker 2: keep moving forward. Try not to give them any more
Speaker 2: attention than they deserve. What I am concerned about is
Speaker 2: them having open carry, which is legal in Ohio, but
Speaker 2: approaching people's vehicles, like my friend Eric, who was a
Speaker 2: business owner in the community and was going to his
Speaker 2: job and they approached his vehicle. He also is a
Speaker 2: Second Amendment person. These things can be very, very concerning
Speaker 2: and dynamic, and I think law enforcement has to do
Speaker 2: a better job of separating that. Meaning you have your
Speaker 2: open carry, you're there, but you can't approach cars in
Speaker 2: the street. That's just way too dangerous in the society
Speaker 2: that we live in, and we certainly wouldn't want anything
Speaker 2: to happen to one of our citizens who's just going
Speaker 2: about their way.
Speaker 1: You know, you can loudly shout all the hateful words
Speaker 1: you use, the end word, Nazis, Catholics, Jews, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do, call them terrible names out of your mouth,
Speaker 1: But as soon as you walk over the line of
Speaker 1: advocating or signing violence against anyone, then you got a crime.
Speaker 1: And so for those who say someone should be arrested
Speaker 1: for what they've done, I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 1: But there is a law called inducing panic, and the
Speaker 1: law says, in Ohio, no person shall cause the evacuation
Speaker 1: of any public place, or otherwise cause serious public inconvenience
Speaker 1: or alarm by doing any of the following, threatening to
Speaker 1: commit any offense of violence, committing any offense with reckless
Speaker 1: disregard of the likelihood will its commission will cause serious
Speaker 1: public inconvenience. Now, and I've said this, and I find
Speaker 1: myself on the same side with the ACLU. I'm normally
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in that position. But the ACLU will tell you.
Speaker 1: Under Brandenburg versus Ohio US Supreme Court decision, they a
Speaker 1: person can say any word they want to say, including
Speaker 1: hate speech, and then vile way against Catholics and Jews
Speaker 1: and Blacks and Hispanics as long as they will advocate violence.
Speaker 1: And the issue becomes if your friend, the business owner
Speaker 1: who I understand mafier, has a weapon and someone who
Speaker 1: has masked walks up to them with a displaying a
Speaker 1: rifle or a handgun and comes up to the car.
Speaker 1: Damn it, that's getting real close to that point of
Speaker 1: inducing panic. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, But the only thing we can
Speaker 2: do is what we're doing now, you as my white brother,
Speaker 2: you know, me as your African American brother, is just
Speaker 2: to condemn it and keep moving. Meaning this is grotesque.
Speaker 2: We are the great experiment, Bill, and so what separates
Speaker 2: us from Germany. They're going door to door, people post
Speaker 2: things online, repost They're arresting people and charging them with
Speaker 2: being there. We don't want to look like Europe, right,
Speaker 2: this is the United States of America. And I like
Speaker 2: my First Amendment right, and in order for me to
Speaker 2: have it, I also have to be able to deal
Speaker 2: with these types of groups that are doing and saying
Speaker 2: what they're saying. The best thing that even Dale can
Speaker 2: do is what they did, meaning come out peacefully, community,
Speaker 2: come together.
Speaker 3: So we show the example of the.
Speaker 2: Great experiment that we have our first Amendment right to say,
Speaker 2: we condemn what you've said, what you're doing, what you
Speaker 2: stand for, and then let's just keep moving. This is
Speaker 2: hate will always be with us. Bill tell the tests
Speaker 2: till the end of time. It's never going to stop.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be people out there who don't like Jews,
Speaker 2: who don't like African Americans, who don't like Italians whatever
Speaker 2: they have, don't like people in the LGBTQ plus community,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. There's always going to be hate. The
Speaker 2: best thing you and I can do is just be
Speaker 2: great examples, great Americans as we are, and push forward.
Speaker 2: I love the United States of America. Anytime you know someone,
Speaker 2: I hear the pledge of allegiance. Are like in Canada
Speaker 2: where they were booing us, by the way, but we
Speaker 2: showed them right two ways. One we had our players
Speaker 2: in nine seconds kick their butts. That's a part of
Speaker 2: America and hockey. And number two, we beat them three
Speaker 2: to one while their Prime Minister was watching. So they
Speaker 2: have the right to boo. We have the right to win,
Speaker 2: and so that's what we have to do, just keep
Speaker 2: winning in this country. And that's why so many people
Speaker 2: want to come here, and we're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: You know, when you were a lawmaker for many years,
Speaker 1: you had the ability in city council to have a
Speaker 1: location for protest, much like you have a location for
Speaker 1: porn shops. You could say, okay, you're gonna have strip clubs.
Speaker 1: You can't prohibit strip clubs. You can't prohibit porn, but
Speaker 1: it's got to be way over there. City of Evendale
Speaker 1: and Lincoln Heights has the power to say, okay, you
Speaker 1: can protest. You're gonna have your First Amendment hate speech privileges,
Speaker 1: but it can't be near a school, and it can't
Speaker 1: be over the top of I seventy five. It's got
Speaker 1: to be over there. And then the manner and time
Speaker 1: and mode of protest can be governed a little bit
Speaker 1: by the government, but it can't be prohibited. And for
Speaker 1: those who say, you know, the police ought to do something, Evendale,
Speaker 1: Lincoln Heights, the FBI, Hamley County Sheriff, whatever they investigate
Speaker 1: crime and up to this point what they did was
Speaker 1: not criminal, but it's getting close. I think maybe the FBI,
Speaker 1: because it's across state lines, could find out who the
Speaker 1: persons are that rented that U haul. Don't arrest them,
Speaker 1: but say, okay, these are the new laws in Evendale,
Speaker 1: this is where you got to go. These are the
Speaker 1: new laws. And Lincoln Heights. You can't be near a
Speaker 1: school and we're gonna monitor this. But you have the
Speaker 1: right to make a fool of yourself, use hate speech
Speaker 1: all that you want. But isn't it true that as
Speaker 1: a lawmaker, you can take whether it's porn or freedom
Speaker 1: of expression and have a location for it with minimal
Speaker 1: requirements to get the permit.
Speaker 3: You can try to do it.
Speaker 2: You know, we dealt with it at Fountain Square with
Speaker 2: as you know, with the cross and so you have
Speaker 2: public spaces.
Speaker 3: We have three CDC.
Speaker 2: That does the programming for places like Fountain Square and
Speaker 2: they would have to deal with the permitting. I think
Speaker 2: the key piece here is that we have to be
Speaker 2: able to accept some of this grotesque behavior, as grotesque
Speaker 2: as it is. Bill, because we live in America, we
Speaker 2: have the First Amendment rights are part of our constitution.
Speaker 2: And once we start taking those rights incrementally away from
Speaker 2: those who have the most grotesque parts of our society,
Speaker 2: you and I then lose our rights for our First Amendment.
Speaker 2: So we're going to have to deal with it. I
Speaker 2: think that you know you're right that maybe we could say, hey,
Speaker 2: here's the area where you have your protests. Most importantly,
Speaker 2: you have to have a permit, and when they go
Speaker 2: outside of the boundaries of that, the government should sue them,
Speaker 2: and most likely they can't afford that kind of litigation.
Speaker 2: But again, what we don't want to do is continue
Speaker 2: to empower them by giving them great platforms and allow
Speaker 2: the community to come with their First Amendment rights, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, and just say we have a different perspective,
Speaker 2: we're here peacefully, and then let's keep moving. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm more worried about making sure that our public school
Speaker 2: systems are performing well, that our young people still the
Speaker 2: greatest way for young people to get from poverty into
Speaker 2: the middle class is a great education. I believe in
Speaker 2: good public education. We've got to make sure no matter
Speaker 2: who's listening to this across the United States of America,
Speaker 2: putting our time in attention and getting the best public
Speaker 2: education systems that we can, and then those people who
Speaker 2: cannot get out of those neighborhoods where the public education
Speaker 2: is poor. All should have the right to send their
Speaker 2: children to get the best education they possibly can, and
Speaker 2: that's the school choice. And people don't like to hear that,
Speaker 2: who are public education supporters, But the reality of it
Speaker 2: is is I have the ability to send my daughter
Speaker 2: to Seaton. I can financially do that. Other people can't
Speaker 2: do that, and they should have the right to have
Speaker 2: their children have the best education. So I look forward
Speaker 2: to the Secretary of Education getting confirmed because I think
Speaker 2: we need to have a real national discussion about how
Speaker 2: we turn around our public education systems in America's secondly
Speaker 2: talking about not these neo dotties on a blage.
Speaker 1: No, you talk about grotesque. I did not know until
Speaker 1: I saw the sixty minutes piece that in Germany or
Speaker 1: most of Europe, if you insult someone, if you call
Speaker 1: them fat and ugly when they're fat and ugly, you
Speaker 1: could be criminally charged with an insult and they knock
Speaker 1: on your door at six o'clock in the morning. If
Speaker 1: you're online calling somebody fat and ugly, or calling an
Speaker 1: immigrant a bad word. That's a crime. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: locked up. I don't want to be in that circumstance
Speaker 1: at all, but to be proactive up to this point.
Speaker 1: If someone has a mask on and they're displaying a
Speaker 1: weapon and that you walk up to someone's car and
Speaker 1: the person is looking, there's a mask on and there's
Speaker 1: a weapon with his finger ent or around the trigger.
Speaker 1: To me, that's disorderly conduct. That could be inducing panic,
Speaker 1: and law enforcement has the ability to find out who
Speaker 1: they are to tell them that can't be done.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, before you go agree, yeah, that's that's where the
Speaker 1: FBI gets involved because they're in Kentucky, as I understand it,
Speaker 1: near Butcher Holler and Harlan County, and they do this
Speaker 1: for the purpose, and of course there was a contact.
Speaker 1: I will not put them on the airwaves. I think five, nine, twelve,
Speaker 1: and nineteen should to reconsider giving their message any more
Speaker 1: promulgation that it has already because it is obscure, it's
Speaker 1: wrong on the issue. Before I let you go about
Speaker 1: what's happening with Trump and what's happening now with the
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. After have puable, I think Cranleigh and
Speaker 1: you were in charge when you pass something relative to
Speaker 1: being a welcoming community, and the City of Cincinnati is
Speaker 1: now coined as a sanctuary city that may lose millions
Speaker 1: of dollars in federal money. Where do you stand on
Speaker 1: the sanctuary city status of the City of Cincinnati with
Speaker 1: after pure of boll Well.
Speaker 2: I was against it then against it now, And at
Speaker 2: that time, you know, family was under hospice care. So
Speaker 2: it was a very trying time for our family. But
Speaker 2: I was against it then, against it now. And what
Speaker 2: city Council and the mayor need to do is, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, they need to go on the record and
Speaker 2: be clear that they will cooperate with ICE.
Speaker 3: And let's just make it clear for the record.
Speaker 2: ICE is going after the worst, the worst of the worst,
Speaker 2: and so they're after gang members, they're after drug dealers,
Speaker 2: they're after thieves, they're after people who are engaging in
Speaker 2: human trafficking and prostitution. And so this notion that ICE
Speaker 2: is coming in and they're taking people who have come
Speaker 2: here illegally but are not breaking laws, they're not gang
Speaker 2: members as examples, is absolutely a policy and we have
Speaker 2: to address that because there are people that are saying
Speaker 2: I'm not sending my kids to school because they're concerned
Speaker 2: about deportation. That is not what's happening. I think our
Speaker 2: mayor and our city council should be very clear on
Speaker 2: the record instead of passing resolute on what's going on
Speaker 2: with Israel if AMA, they need to deal with ICE
Speaker 2: and pass something that says we will cooperate and we
Speaker 2: want to make sure that Chief Dji understands that we
Speaker 2: would like you to cooperate with ICE anytime they're talking
Speaker 2: about the deportation of criminals in our community. Who the
Speaker 2: hell would want a gang member in their school? This
Speaker 2: notion that we're going to go into school and take
Speaker 2: out a student. The only reason ICE would go into
Speaker 2: a school is if there was a killer or a
Speaker 2: gang member there, and you would think that every parent
Speaker 2: would want that person out of the school. But that's
Speaker 2: not what's happening. We want cooperation, and I think the
Speaker 2: mayor and council should be on record saying that we're
Speaker 2: very clear about it, and I think if they don't,
Speaker 2: I think the federal government's just come down very hard
Speaker 2: on the city of Cincinnati and holding the county.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens there. I'm in favor of
Speaker 1: the dreamers. I'm in favor of extending the worker permit
Speaker 1: to know who you are, what is your name, here's
Speaker 1: my fingerprints, I can work in those jobs. I'm in
Speaker 1: fa of that. When it comes to Ken Coober, of course,
Speaker 1: Dan Hills was on with Sloaney yesterday talking about it,
Speaker 1: and Ken Kober I've spoken to him and he's being
Speaker 1: ken Kober the sergeant who's the head of the FOP says, look, well,
Speaker 1: we take an oath to defend and protect the constitution
Speaker 1: United State's Constitution of Ohio, and we have an oath
Speaker 1: to assist FBI, US Marshall Service or ICE because they're
Speaker 1: part of the federal government of which we're a part,
Speaker 1: and they're between a rock and a hard place. I
Speaker 1: think Chief Thiji is reflecting what Cheryl Long, the city manager, wants,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, we're not going to cooperate with ICE,
Speaker 1: and that's a problem because cops take an oath to
Speaker 1: cooperate with ice. He said, we use ice, and when
Speaker 1: the city might have a rate of one type or
Speaker 1: another arene we use FBI resources. We ask them, well,
Speaker 1: we often work with US Attorney's Office and so It's
Speaker 1: like a hand and a glove. And you can't have
Speaker 1: part of law enforcement in the Tri State playing political
Speaker 1: games and not getting off the streets the worst of
Speaker 1: the worst. And let's face it, and ancillarily to that,
Speaker 1: if someone is picked up with the Warrens for rape
Speaker 1: and murder and drug trafficking and they find someone with
Speaker 1: that person who's also here illegally, there may be a
Speaker 1: little bit of ancillary difficulties. But I would hope to
Speaker 1: after paravosers stand up like a tenfold beacon of the
Speaker 1: night and saying we went out of our community the
Speaker 1: worst of the worst. We're gonna help Ice do that.
Speaker 1: But politically I think Christopher Smitherman he can't do that.
Speaker 2: Correct is correct, And what I will share with you
Speaker 2: is that the University of Cincinnati, places like Cincinnati State,
Speaker 2: Mount Saint Joe as examples, Zavid University. You know what
Speaker 2: happened in Georgia was real with Lake and Riley. They
Speaker 2: will absolutely regret it, like politicians do. If one of
Speaker 2: these young people are out jogging and they lose their
Speaker 2: life to someone here illegally, one of these gang members.
Speaker 2: So Georgia learned a very bad lefton even though it
Speaker 2: was a southern border, it came right into Georgia and
Speaker 2: it played into this presidential election.
Speaker 3: Let me because I know we've got to go.
Speaker 2: I've been watching the news like you, and I'm watching
Speaker 2: this plane in Canada and I'm just remain disappointed that
Speaker 2: I hear Democratic leaders like Pete boudageg and others saying
Speaker 2: that President Trump had something to do with the plane
Speaker 2: crash in Canada.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Where you fall on this issue of whether you support
Speaker 2: Trump or you don't. The lying is what is hurting America.
Speaker 2: And so when you have mainstream media willing to put
Speaker 2: this craziness out here that the President had something to
Speaker 2: do with the Canadian crash when it was when it
Speaker 2: was high winds that impacted pilots who probably did a
Speaker 2: great job and there wasn't even more loss of life
Speaker 2: based on their heroic and the staff.
Speaker 3: There on that plane.
Speaker 2: To try to blame that on the president is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: They have not learned their lesson from the back four
Speaker 2: years of Bill Cunningham.
Speaker 3: And it's just as shame what I see.
Speaker 2: Everything they believe has to do with it goes back
Speaker 2: to President Trump. And again, as I close it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter where you are politically.
Speaker 3: We've got to.
Speaker 2: Get to the point where all this lying, rushing, collusion,
Speaker 2: hunter Biden laptop now the crash here has something to
Speaker 2: do with Trump, is just absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 1: Christopher, we got to run always the voice of common sense.
Speaker 1: Once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show and stay warm this Wednesday afternoon. Thank you, Christopher.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, God bless you always continue with more
Speaker 1: news next at showing me the reds getting out it
Speaker 1: this weekend for the first time on news radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, since
Speaker 1: the events of February the seventh, you just heard from
Speaker 1: Olmer Vice Mayor Christopher Smithman about his views on the matter.
Speaker 1: But David Ferrara, who's a reporter for The Inquiry, has
Speaker 1: a column up this morning. Armed men are guarding the
Speaker 1: streets of Lincoln Heights, stop cars and vetting passers by.
Speaker 1: And the first sentence in this column by David Ferrara
Speaker 1: is this, in the day since the Neo Nazi demonstration
Speaker 1: rattled residents here, that's Lincoln Heights, a group of men
Speaker 1: began guarding at streets many donning all black and wearing
Speaker 1: masks with rifles in hand. They're doing more than your
Speaker 1: typical neighborhood watch group. They've stopped people from passing through,
Speaker 1: approached cars in a fast food drive through, and even
Speaker 1: threatened to shoot a property owner. And David Ferraro, welcome,
Speaker 1: I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham show.
Speaker 1: And David, can you relate whether or not these so
Speaker 1: called armed men are like residents of Lincoln Heights or
Speaker 1: are they part of the neo Nazi movement?
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 4: To my understanding, their residence for either the community or
Speaker 4: Lincoln Heights or the surrounding area. I've spoken with a
Speaker 4: few of them on the condition of anonymity, and not
Speaker 4: many of them wanted to talk with me, But to
Speaker 4: my understanding, they're not a part of the white supremacist group,
Speaker 4: but they do feel like they might be coming back
Speaker 4: those white supremacists. So the community is on edge. And
Speaker 4: I've been following this since there was a prayer vigil
Speaker 4: the Sunday after the demonstration, and the community has been
Speaker 4: on alert and ready to take action after that Friday demonstration.
Speaker 1: And I guess the issue is when I had psmith
Speaker 1: Mohun about half an hour ago, he talked about the
Speaker 1: fact that a business owner, a friend of his, had
Speaker 1: armed men in fatigues that maybe were law enforcement walking
Speaker 1: up to a window. And this person in the car
Speaker 1: who was a friend of his, had a handgun under
Speaker 1: the seat, and so this is ripe with difficulties. Are
Speaker 1: these It appears to be individuals acting on their own
Speaker 1: and the sheriff, Charmaine McGuffey, and your column indicates that
Speaker 1: she's she's not aware of this going on at this point.
Speaker 1: But I like the idea of you having the nine
Speaker 1: to one one cause. But do you have a sense
Speaker 1: that this is a terribly dangerous situation if so called
Speaker 1: citizens taken upon themselves enforced laws.
Speaker 4: Well, I think just listening to the nine one one calls,
Speaker 4: you know, several callers have expressed concerns about seeing the
Speaker 4: men with guns. But there's a couple of confrontations, and
Speaker 4: I kind of detailed that in the story about folks
Speaker 4: that have actually been confronted by these armed men. And
Speaker 4: you know, in my own experience when I was reporting
Speaker 4: on Monday, I was a part of the rolling car protest,
Speaker 4: just filing along to do my reporting and someone came
Speaker 4: up to my window at a rifle and told me
Speaker 4: to roll the car window down and asked me, you know,
Speaker 4: what are you doing here in the neighborhood. And once
Speaker 4: I showed up my press badge, I was allowed to proceed.
Speaker 4: But it seems like there's been these situations where folks
Speaker 4: had been confronted and it could escalate.
Speaker 5: At any time if something were to go wrong.
Speaker 4: And that's something that Jim Meister, one of the folks
Speaker 4: that I talked to who had called nine one one
Speaker 4: and then spoke to me about it, said that, you know,
Speaker 4: he approached these people who were in one of his
Speaker 4: sacing lots next to his business, and they told him
Speaker 4: that they were the police, pointed a rifle at him,
Speaker 4: and then it was just in time once the police
Speaker 4: showed up that they were able to de escalate the situation.
Speaker 1: And I would assume, David, that the person that approached
Speaker 1: your vehicle has said roll down the window, and I
Speaker 1: guess you can applied was not law enforcement. It was
Speaker 1: a concerned citizen. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: That's my understanding? Yes?
Speaker 1: And what did you what did he or she look like?
Speaker 1: Was it armed? The dress? Was there a mask, on
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Most of the folks are.
Speaker 4: The person that approached me was like most of the
Speaker 4: folks that have been protecting the community out there. They're
Speaker 4: fully dressed in black, wearing a mask, typically a large
Speaker 4: rifle or shotgun or even sometimes a pistol. I've noticed
Speaker 4: it since I've been to the prayer vigil that Sunday.
Speaker 4: Folks just taken upon themselves kind of keep guarding the
Speaker 4: community and watching. And that's something that's been reported not
Speaker 4: only by the overpass where the demonstration happened, but also
Speaker 4: by Mangum and Shepherd Lane and then on the other
Speaker 4: outskirts of the neighborhood off of North Wayne Avenue.
Speaker 1: Before we talk about the nine one one calls explain
Speaker 1: Jim Meister as the business owner who has a business
Speaker 1: in Lincoln Heights. And I've been through there many times,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you have. It often is a lower
Speaker 1: middle class area without a lot of businesses going on,
Speaker 1: so he would stand out. So explain what happened with
Speaker 1: Jim Meister, the business owner in Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Jim was telling me that he owns a business
Speaker 4: building with a vacant lot right adjacent to it. And
Speaker 4: he had seen on the camera that there were some
Speaker 4: folks that had went through a small little fence that
Speaker 4: had been blocking off the lot and parked in.
Speaker 3: The middle of it.
Speaker 4: So he had decided, you know, he saw the camera
Speaker 4: footage to call on one one and report that there
Speaker 4: was somebody on his property. And as he was driving
Speaker 4: over there, he's talking to the dispatcher, and once he
Speaker 4: arrives and he's still on nine one one with the dispatcher,
Speaker 4: the folks get out of their car approach him start
Speaker 4: asking what are you doing here, and he shouts out, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm calling the police, and they say, we are the police.
Speaker 4: We're protecting Lincoln Heights. What do you want? And Jim
Speaker 4: tells me you could hear this in the nine one
Speaker 4: one call. But Jim tells me at this point that
Speaker 4: one of the men raises his rightfle and points at
Speaker 4: him and tells him that point blankly, that he's going
Speaker 4: to shoot him. And they begin arguing back and forth
Speaker 4: about who owns the lot, and then police show up
Speaker 4: about fifteen twenty seconds later and de escalate the situation.
Speaker 4: Jim told me that he let them stay until the
Speaker 4: end of the day, but that ended up be coming
Speaker 4: throughout the week and now there's been a ten popped
Speaker 4: up on the property and he's not very happy with that.
Speaker 1: In your story, a photo by Liz do for there's
Speaker 1: there's a photo of a large gentleman with he appears
Speaker 1: to have multiple weapons on him, including holding in his hands.
Speaker 1: Appears to be a semi automatic rifle. Almost looks like
Speaker 1: there might be a silencer on the end, but that's illegal.
Speaker 1: I assume it's not a silencer. And this person is masked.
Speaker 1: You can see the eyes, that's about it, and there's
Speaker 1: some emblem on his shoulder. Is that the guy that
Speaker 1: approached the business owner Jim Meister? Is that the same person?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not sure if that's the same person. That
Speaker 4: photo is taken during the Monday rolling car protest to
Speaker 4: point out the patch, though the patch I did see
Speaker 4: on his shoulder was of some gun club. But you
Speaker 4: can tell by the regaria they're wearing that you know
Speaker 4: they're coming out there, fully disguised, fully just out there
Speaker 4: ready to protect the community. And this kind of matches
Speaker 4: the sort of look of most of the folks that
Speaker 4: are out there.
Speaker 1: And according to your column, and I one calls when
Speaker 1: meister the business owner says, hey, I'm calling the police. Quote,
Speaker 1: we are the police. This person said, what's wrong? We're
Speaker 1: protecting Lincoln Heights. So this person self identified as the police.
Speaker 4: That's my understand And if you listen to the recording,
Speaker 4: you could hear them say that in the background it mister,
Speaker 4: confirm that to me.
Speaker 1: Isn't that a crime? I mean, you're not in the
Speaker 1: prosecution business, but when you identify yourself as a police officer,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a difficulty. So, just generally speaking, David
Speaker 1: Farrar of the Inquiry, this appears to be a situation
Speaker 1: where well minded, community minded individuals wanted to get together
Speaker 1: to quote, defend Lincoln Heights. But when you approach a
Speaker 1: car with a gun and pointed at someone, isn't that
Speaker 1: a problem?
Speaker 4: Well that's something that I asked Sheriff mcguffy during a
Speaker 4: press confidence yesterday and tried following up with her afterwards,
Speaker 4: and we're awaiting a response from her and her team.
Speaker 4: I'm about more information about how the deputy to respond
Speaker 4: to these situations.
Speaker 3: There was a nine to.
Speaker 4: One one call that I listened to where the dispatcher
Speaker 4: was calming down someone who had called about seeing these
Speaker 4: men out there and said that police are checking on
Speaker 4: them regularly throughout the day to make sure they're not
Speaker 4: impeding traffic. But to my understanding, the Sheriff's office says
Speaker 4: that they haven't had any complaints about these confrontations.
Speaker 1: So it hadn't gotten to the sheriff's level. And then
Speaker 1: you also relate in your story, David, that another man,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jacobs, called nine to one one and said he
Speaker 1: was forced to leave the neighborhood Lincoln Heights after armed
Speaker 1: men will not let him pass through on February the tenth,
Speaker 1: and Jacobs told the inquir I guess that would be you.
Speaker 1: He tried to file a police report twice, but didn't
Speaker 1: feel like the Sheriff's office has taken the issue seriously.
Speaker 1: Can you put some meat on those bones as far
Speaker 1: as individuals in Lincoln Heights that are armed telling residents,
Speaker 1: are telling those passing through that they can't enter Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: When I spoke to Jacob yesterday, he told me that
Speaker 4: he had driven past the neighborhood after hearing about the
Speaker 4: situation that was going on and just wanted to check
Speaker 4: it out, and somebody had told him you know that
Speaker 4: he'd have to leave, that he wasn't welcome there and
Speaker 4: he wasn't allowed to pass through. And he called nine
Speaker 4: one one shortly after that, and they said that a
Speaker 4: deputy would be dispatched to talk with him. And he
Speaker 4: said that nobody ever showed up to file their report.
Speaker 4: And after I spoke with him yesterday, he said he
Speaker 4: went down to the station to file a police support
Speaker 4: and the deputy didn't seem to take the issue seriously,
Speaker 4: questioning him about whether his traffic was actually impeded, what
Speaker 4: was he actually doing in the neighborhood, and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: And he's not very hopeful.
Speaker 4: He said that it's going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Wendy's manager said that this is something been going on
Speaker 1: that men, armed men would approach his customers. Wendy's customers,
Speaker 1: I guess in the drive through and inquire there whether
Speaker 1: or not I guess what is your business, et cetera.
Speaker 1: You say in your story that another man, Daniel Jacobs,
Speaker 1: this is after that, according to the Wendy's manager confirmed
Speaker 1: that armed men have been approaching customers in the drive through,
Speaker 1: but declined to comment further. Can you imagine being in
Speaker 1: mind get a double cheese burger with the ketch a
Speaker 1: onion and pickle and our men approach you. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is ripe with difficulties, and I.
Speaker 4: Reflect a lot of the concern that a lot of
Speaker 4: people who have been calling on them have been expressing.
Speaker 4: There was one man, the one who had reported that
Speaker 4: he saw our men's approaching people in the drives said
Speaker 4: he was dropping off kids as part of a car
Speaker 4: pool nearby and he wanted to get out of the
Speaker 4: area as soon as possible after seeing these people approaching
Speaker 4: people in cars and the drive through and staying on
Speaker 4: the street corner and made him feel unsafe.
Speaker 1: And none of these individuals are connected to the hate
Speaker 1: filled neo Nazi group. These are just, I guess well
Speaker 1: intended citizens who want to take on the role of police.
Speaker 1: Are you saying the Sheriff McGuffey is not you, but
Speaker 1: the people involved in this are saying she's not taking
Speaker 1: this seriously.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I think the community ever since the beginning, especially since
Speaker 4: the town hall last week, it's felt like the police
Speaker 4: department isn't necessarily and I say the police department was
Speaker 4: in the Sheriff's office because they tracked out for patrol
Speaker 4: that the sheriff's office isn't giving them the level of
Speaker 4: protection they feel like they need or deserve, and they
Speaker 4: kind of come in to still that void themselves. And
Speaker 4: I think folks that are passing through the community don't
Speaker 4: feel like that the sheriff's office is stepping in, and
Speaker 4: that's something that Jacobs has said, feeling as if the
Speaker 4: police are hoping it will go away if they just
Speaker 4: don't provoke anything any further.
Speaker 1: And David, I would note that your column indicates that
Speaker 1: about ten years ago Lincolnites disbanding its own police division.
Speaker 1: They've contracted out to the Sheriff's office the situation, and
Speaker 1: Sheriff McGuffey said, nobody has addressed that with the sheriff's office.
Speaker 1: If they do, we'll certainly articulate what can and cannot
Speaker 1: be done, and that we do not want to create
Speaker 1: neighborhood militias. We don't want we won't want to do
Speaker 1: that because we understand that it leads to a pack
Speaker 1: back to the end to the tactics of the neo Nazis.
Speaker 1: They want people to do that. And so at this point,
Speaker 1: isn't it fair from your observation to assume that neighborhood
Speaker 1: militias with gun insignia on their arms are patrolling the
Speaker 1: area because they think the sheriff McGuffey is not doing
Speaker 1: her job properly. Is that what people are telling you.
Speaker 4: Well, that's something that a lot of residents expressed during
Speaker 4: the town hall last week, and it seems like this
Speaker 4: wasn't just one situation as provoked the community. It seems
Speaker 4: like this community feels as if law enforcement hasn't been
Speaker 4: necessarily doing their job.
Speaker 3: And whether that's particularly.
Speaker 4: In the community or part of a larger issue, it
Speaker 4: seems like many folks were expressing that discontent with the
Speaker 4: situation and this is just the latest example of that.
Speaker 1: All right, David, thank you. You'll be on the story
Speaker 1: the next few days. Is that correct, and events will
Speaker 1: dictate the amount of the coverage it receives. I would
Speaker 1: hope that individuals are not acting as if they're quote police,
Speaker 1: ordering people to wind down their windows and talk to them.
Speaker 1: That happened to you as a reporter, It's happening to
Speaker 1: lots of other people. And it appears that this group
Speaker 1: is almost a self appointed to militia that's guarding Lincoln Heights,
Speaker 1: and this is ripe with difficulties and dangers. Will see
Speaker 1: what happens in the future. But David Ferrara of the Inquiry,
Speaker 1: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, David, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Bill.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with more news coming up. But
Speaker 1: as David points out, he's a reporter. And when armed
Speaker 1: individuals walk up to your door and say wind down
Speaker 1: your window, put down your window, that's approaching disorderly conduct.
Speaker 1: It's approaching intimidation, approaching impersonating a law enforcement official, which
Speaker 1: is a crime. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, the
Speaker 1: Great American with you every day. You're home of the Reds.
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham, the Great American.
Speaker 1: One of the great advocates for tax reform in this
Speaker 1: country is Grover north Quest. He's been fabulous on this
Speaker 1: issue for twenty or thirty years. And now things I'm
Speaker 1: almost metastasized where actually it might happen. When the Trumpster
Speaker 1: was first elected in twenty sixteen, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: he said and made all these promises that didn't occur,
Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, well that's that's the way politics go.
Speaker 1: But now this time. I think maybe it's because of
Speaker 1: the last intervening four years, what he was put through,
Speaker 1: and as a consequence of that, he's now more committed
Speaker 1: than ever to doing what needs to be done. And
Speaker 1: we indicate now that he's going to go after the IRS.
Speaker 1: And Grover Norquist has written on the subject many times.
Speaker 1: They have over two thousand cars available for the IRS
Speaker 1: the cost of one hundreds of millions of dollars. They
Speaker 1: have bullets, they have guns, they have ammunition, and so
Speaker 1: Grover Norquist, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Speaker 1: first of all, tell the American people, how good do
Speaker 1: you feel now that tax reform may actually occur.
Speaker 6: Well, I think we're going to get the bill passed.
Speaker 6: The President of today tweeted out the assertion that we
Speaker 6: need now to pass one bill, not two bills. There
Speaker 6: were some well meaning people who wanted to do two bills.
Speaker 5: The problem is if you do two would never actually
Speaker 5: get done.
Speaker 6: So we are now moving on one bill, which is
Speaker 6: the consensus issue here, and that will be a tax
Speaker 6: cut that the President's tax cut will.
Speaker 5: Be made permanent.
Speaker 6: It will go out indefinitely, not just for ten years,
Speaker 6: but permanently. And the good news there is that we
Speaker 6: have people will be sure and secure in what we're accomplishing,
Speaker 6: and you'll know.
Speaker 5: Okay, this is what your tax full expensing.
Speaker 6: One of the things that pass in the original bill
Speaker 6: which will be kept.
Speaker 5: The lower rate for small businesses will be kept. The
Speaker 5: lower rates.
Speaker 6: Every American will have lower tax rates than then before it,
Speaker 6: because that's what was passed in the original bill.
Speaker 5: And the cheerful.
Speaker 6: News that we will double the standard reduction for individuals
Speaker 6: and double the per child tax credit. All of these
Speaker 6: things which passed in twenty seven will now be made permanent.
Speaker 5: It is a huge, huge step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And as far as finding this trillion dollars, all of
Speaker 1: us assumed there was waste fraud and abuse. In fact,
Speaker 1: I've played before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama talking
Speaker 1: about waste fraud and abuse. In nineteen ninety four, there
Speaker 1: was a big government commission put together by Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: and Al Gore, and they had these four foot high
Speaker 1: pages of rules and regulations. They said, okay, we're going
Speaker 1: after that. Then you got Joe Biden. I've played his
Speaker 1: cuts about all the waste fraud and abuse in the
Speaker 1: federal government and I played that, and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. Why do you believe now, Grover Norquiest,
Speaker 1: I know I believe it now, which I haven't believed
Speaker 1: it until recently, that this president is serious about cutting
Speaker 1: the size and the scope of the federal government over
Speaker 1: the objections of CNN. Why this time do you have
Speaker 1: more hope than before? Because I've heard heard this song before,
Speaker 1: sung by others, But this time I believe.
Speaker 5: It several reasons.
Speaker 6: The first is that we have a Republican House and
Speaker 6: a Republican Senate. When Reagan was president, he had a
Speaker 6: Republican Senate. He had the Grace Commission report, which came
Speaker 6: out with many, many good and important ideas, some of
Speaker 6: which could be done by executive orner, but many of
Speaker 6: which required laws. And with a democratic House, nothing could
Speaker 6: actually move. Nothing could move. When the Democrats had the
Speaker 6: House in the Senate under Bill Clinton, they could say
Speaker 6: they were for all these reforms, but all those reforms
Speaker 6: reduced the number of democratic restinct workers in the country.
Speaker 5: That was never ever going to get fixed that way.
Speaker 6: The other reason to believe it is the president is
Speaker 6: now in his second term.
Speaker 5: He was here for four years.
Speaker 6: He's seen how the bureaucracy lies to the president about
Speaker 6: what's actually happening in each of these situations. And he
Speaker 6: had staff around him who is hardened, and they have
Speaker 6: fought these fights before.
Speaker 5: And I would add one other thing.
Speaker 6: Elon Musk and X Elon Musk has a lot of
Speaker 6: brilliant talent which goes in and looks at the computers
Speaker 6: things you think should have been done every year for
Speaker 6: the last thirty years. For crying out loud, how in
Speaker 6: the world did they not go into these computers to
Speaker 6: say how old are the people on Social Security? Are
Speaker 6: there several people with the same soci Security number?
Speaker 5: Perhaps?
Speaker 6: You know, why in the world did this not get
Speaker 6: exposed before? This is not you think it isn't terribly difficult.
Speaker 6: But they've gone in with people who know what to
Speaker 6: look for and how to find it, and they've been
Speaker 6: very good at it. And then the same thing happened.
Speaker 6: Add one thing x X Twitter. Right when we tried
Speaker 6: to take a good idea and publicize it to cut
Speaker 6: taxes when the Republicans took over in ninety four in
Speaker 6: the House and Senate, what happened, Well, The New York
Speaker 6: Times wasn't interested in things, and the Washington Post wasn't
Speaker 6: interested in it, and so these are just they just
Speaker 6: were not interested in getting any of these things done
Speaker 6: or in publicizing them.
Speaker 5: And since now, what can happen?
Speaker 6: As long as he thinks it's a good idea, you
Speaker 6: know what, it'll get talked about. It will get talked about.
Speaker 6: He will send it out and ten million people will
Speaker 6: see what's going on.
Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where frankly, they can't
Speaker 5: shut us up. They can't shut us up. They want to,
Speaker 5: but they can't.
Speaker 1: The stars have aligned, and they've aligned in ways. I
Speaker 1: thought it was possible, but not likely. One thing, I
Speaker 1: know you're more familiar with the numbers than I am,
Speaker 1: but the government accounting off As GEO said in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, this is during the heyday of Joe Biden
Speaker 1: and Nakamala Harris. Now, between two hundred and fifty billion
Speaker 1: up to five hundred and fifty billion dollars a year
Speaker 1: was lost through the federal government with waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1: Now that thing hit with a thud because nobody in
Speaker 1: the Congress, Democrats controlled it wanted to highlight the fact
Speaker 1: that every year between two hundred and fifty billion and
Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty billion is simply lost, and that
Speaker 1: thing has been resurrected. I watched the other day of
Speaker 1: the interview with my friend, my good friend Sean Hannity,
Speaker 1: and I spoke to him about a day or two
Speaker 1: thereafter to get his perspective on things with the DOGE
Speaker 1: and Elon Mushkin and of course President Trump. And one
Speaker 1: thing that came out of it is the President said, look,
Speaker 1: I signed these eos, these executive orders. I sign them,
Speaker 1: but then they go into a file somewhere and nothing happens.
Speaker 1: He said, I did that in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: I signed these executive orders. So what the bureaucracy ate
Speaker 1: the homework? They didn't care. So what's different this time?
Speaker 1: Why will the bureaucracy care when Trump signs an EO.
Speaker 6: Well, they're putting people in who can actually manage this
Speaker 6: sort of thing, and that has really changed. New leadership
Speaker 6: at the head of each of these agencies, at the
Speaker 6: head of each of these departments. I mean, this is
Speaker 6: just amazing what they've done. They're not some people who
Speaker 6: just are willing to say we're doing this and I
Speaker 6: don't care to hear your objections because we've heard them before.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine, You know some of the people that
Speaker 6: he's brought in, they have been through these wars, with
Speaker 6: these conflicts, They've dealt with this before. They know how
Speaker 6: the bureaucracy tries to get around decisions.
Speaker 5: Made by the president. And add to this, the Supreme.
Speaker 6: Court is now serious about life. In the past, we
Speaker 6: had a very left wing Supreme Court which would.
Speaker 5: Say, oh, you can't do this, and you go why not.
Speaker 6: They say, well, we'll come up with a reason why later.
Speaker 6: This is the Supreme Court that recognizes the president runs
Speaker 6: the executive office. The president runs the executive branch, not
Speaker 6: the bureaucrats. This is not set up for bureaucrats. This
Speaker 6: is set up for the president to run it and
Speaker 6: all of the decisions they've made in the past. That
Speaker 6: allows some departments to say, this is what we're doing,
Speaker 6: and the department's going to run it, or this SEC
Speaker 6: is going to run over the FCC or one of
Speaker 6: these alphabet things. This is very, very important that we
Speaker 6: have people as cabinet officers who are willing to push
Speaker 6: for what the president asked for. We have a House
Speaker 6: in the Senate willing to investigate whenever the bureaucracy is
Speaker 6: in the way, and we have a Supreme Court that believes, yes,
Speaker 6: this is being made by us. This decision is being
Speaker 6: made by the President, not by bureau frounts.
Speaker 1: I have a list here of the age of people
Speaker 1: getting Social Security benefits. It is totally ridiculous. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: take a rocket science is to figure out something is
Speaker 1: seriously wrong with one hundred and fifty year olds getting
Speaker 1: Social Security along with a massive fraud. I have the
Speaker 1: list here. If you're between one hundred and one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten years old, that's pretty big number. One hundred
Speaker 1: and ten years old, four point seven million are on
Speaker 1: the roles getting social Security. If you're one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty years old, there's one point three million getting it.
Speaker 1: If you're between ninety and one hundred and six million
Speaker 1: are getting it. There aren't that many people alive. And
Speaker 1: you would think, and according to Elon Musk, they're using
Speaker 1: the technology that was available, believe it or not, during
Speaker 1: World War two to conduct Social Security payments. I want
Speaker 1: every recipient to get every dollar that they're entitled to,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to have Social Security. Tell me
Speaker 1: every year there's one hundred billion dollars missing in Social Security.
Speaker 1: There's no audit ever conducted in your business. At American
Speaker 1: tax reform, I would assume at some point somebody looks
Speaker 1: at an audit and say, we got an audit. See
Speaker 1: where the money went to do secondary proof. But with
Speaker 1: Social Security that never happens. When I look at this
Speaker 1: list of people getting Social Security benefits, it is absurd,
Speaker 1: and Elon Musk wants to fix it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, I know it on your website. I have many
Speaker 1: listeners believe or not, in the state of California, and
Speaker 1: they've got a terrible problem coming up because of what
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has done to gas prices in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: In fact, rates are coming down. But can you tell
Speaker 1: the American people why the gasoline prices out West are
Speaker 1: ridiculously high caused by Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 6: Well, among other things, they've been not building pipelines, they've
Speaker 6: been not building refineries, and because they have taxes, they
Speaker 6: have tremendous tax taxes on energy and everything that goes
Speaker 6: into energy. The higher energy costs in California are clearly,
Speaker 6: as you point out, done by that governor and the
Speaker 6: legislature and by previous governors of legislators that said, we
Speaker 6: don't want pipelines coming into this into this beautiful state. No,
Speaker 6: they're going to have a real problem now and in
Speaker 6: the future, and.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's going to get worse, not better unless
Speaker 1: and people of California got to decide for themselves what
Speaker 1: the hell's going on. But tax reform is where you are.
Speaker 1: Can you envision the day Grover Norquist? Maybe in two
Speaker 1: or three years, we're going to have a flat tax
Speaker 1: or a value added tax that the irs will not
Speaker 1: exist and that we'll pay taxes when we buy something,
Speaker 1: or there will be a flat tax. Do you see
Speaker 1: that day coming?
Speaker 6: Well, I think that we can and will get to
Speaker 6: a single rate flat tax. And the reason for that
Speaker 6: is that at the state level, there are eight states
Speaker 6: where the income tax is zero.
Speaker 5: That's a flat rate. That's my favorite flat rate tax.
Speaker 6: And there are fifteen other states that have single rates
Speaker 6: of two, three or four percent. So twenty three percent
Speaker 6: of the twenty three states twenty three states, almost.
Speaker 5: Half have a single rate tax, either zero or a
Speaker 5: non zero number.
Speaker 6: There are ten states that are phasing their income taxes
Speaker 6: down to zero. Where the legislature and the governor said
Speaker 6: we're on the way to zero. Here's how we're doing it,
Speaker 6: and they've passed the law to begin that March. So
Speaker 6: over the next few years, probably in three years, there
Speaker 6: will be a majority of states with a single rate tax,
Speaker 6: and ten to fifteen years from now, they'll be fully
Speaker 6: twenty states that have no income tax at all. So
Speaker 6: as a majority of the members of the House and
Speaker 6: a majority of the members of the Senate come from
Speaker 6: states with a single rate tax or a zero income tax,
Speaker 6: I could see how we do this nationally, not just
Speaker 6: in our state. It works in Texas, it works in Florida,
Speaker 6: it works in Ohio.
Speaker 5: You know, all of these states.
Speaker 6: Have single rate Illinois, for crying out loud, has it's
Speaker 6: a single rate tax, and the legislature can't fix it.
Speaker 6: It can't change it because people like a single rate tax.
Speaker 6: They feel protected. They're not going to be divided into
Speaker 6: different groups and mug one at a time.
Speaker 5: So it's a huge, huge step forward.
Speaker 1: You know, lastly, you may put yourself out of business.
Speaker 1: Go over nor questatr dot org. You may be out
Speaker 1: of business with this. But now Indiana's passing They had
Speaker 1: unanimous vote in the Senate by Democrats and Republicans in
Speaker 1: the state of Indiana to phase out the income tax.
Speaker 1: Ohio is on that route right now. It's three point
Speaker 1: five percent, is on its way to zero. And when
Speaker 1: I look at this, it has to be number one.
Speaker 1: When I watch CNN, etc. They're telling me constantly, all
Speaker 1: this is a billionaire tax bill that Donald Trump wants
Speaker 1: to give tax cuts to his billionaire friends at the
Speaker 1: expense of your Social Security. Are you there to respond
Speaker 1: to that one at all? How about the billionaires getting
Speaker 1: tax cuts and mom and dad being thrown off a
Speaker 1: cliff totally ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: That is what the Democrats say every time, as a
Speaker 6: tax doesn't matter what tax you're reducing, they can cutting.
Speaker 6: You know, raising every tax is a good idea and
Speaker 6: cutting any tax is a bad idea. And the American
Speaker 6: people are not buying the argument that reducing taxes for
Speaker 6: everybody is somehow a gift to quote unquote billionaires. My
Speaker 6: favorite is the Democrats say, well, if you tax corporations,
Speaker 6: people don't actually pay for it. Well there is no,
Speaker 6: mister general voters, there just isn't. If you raise taxes
Speaker 6: on general voters, or the grocery store down the street.
Speaker 6: What happens They raise the price of what they sell
Speaker 6: to get the more money, or they reduce wages or
Speaker 6: the number of people working in order to save the
Speaker 6: money that they then give to the government. They have
Speaker 6: to get the money somewhere, so they either take it
Speaker 6: out of today's payroll by paying people less or hiring
Speaker 6: fewer people, or if they can, they could raise prices,
Speaker 6: which hits consumers. And if the company's really badly damaged
Speaker 6: such that the stock goes down in the company, well,
Speaker 6: then half of American families, whose pensions are determined by
Speaker 6: the price UH shares of stock, we'll see the value
Speaker 6: of their retirement savings go down. So retirees pay the
Speaker 6: corporate income tax, consumers pay the corporate income tax, workers
Speaker 6: pay the.
Speaker 5: Corporate income tax. Somepanis don't pay the corporate income tax.
Speaker 5: They don't have any money. It's lungs to somebody else.
Speaker 6: And so this is you know, if General Motors Spend
Speaker 6: takes a dollar and gives it to the government, that
Speaker 6: came out of workers pay, or it came out of
Speaker 6: higher prices, or it came out of collapsing value of
Speaker 6: the company.
Speaker 1: We consumers pay every corporate tax. It's not don't tax you,
Speaker 1: don't tax me, tax a guy behind the tree. When
Speaker 1: business taxes go up, consumers pay one percent of those
Speaker 1: taxes directly or wages go down, one or the other.
Speaker 1: Once again, Grover nor course, I look Ford, of the
Speaker 1: days in the next few years. You and I have
Speaker 1: no reason to talk atr dot org. Americans for tax reform.
Speaker 1: It's happened, and you may get yourself out of work,
Speaker 1: but so be it, Grover nor question. You've been fighting
Speaker 1: this thing for thirty years along with me. Thanks again
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Grover you're
Speaker 1: a great American.
Speaker 6: Oh and absolutely, and even after we went, I'll call
Speaker 6: and we'll say hi.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Grover, thank you very much.
Speaker 5: Take care.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with more. That guy makes a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of sense. He's been at it for thirty years.
Speaker 1: Don't believe what the media tells you. You as a
Speaker 1: consumer pay all business taxes in the form of higher
Speaker 1: prices for goods and services. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,
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Speaker 7: WLW Donald Trump and the Republican Party has changed the electorate.
Speaker 5: What do I mean by that, Well.
Speaker 7: Let's take a look at party identification Democrats versus Republicans.
Speaker 7: You go back to twenty seventeen, five points more of
Speaker 7: the electorate was Democrats than Republicans. You go to twenty
Speaker 7: twenty one when Joe Biden was starting out, Look at
Speaker 7: that six points more of the electorate was Democrats than Republicans.
Speaker 7: But look at what's happened in February of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Look at this Republicans.
Speaker 7: There are more Republicans in the electorate than there are
Speaker 7: Democrats Republican plus two. So Donald Trump and the Republicans
Speaker 7: have remade the electorate. They've turned some people over from
Speaker 7: being Democrats or independents to become Republicans. New folks have
Speaker 7: entered the electorate who are more Republican leaning. And so
Speaker 7: when you combine that with the fact that Republicans are
Speaker 7: really really behind Donald Trump, all of a sudden, you
Speaker 7: get a winning recipe whereby you break the normal rules
Speaker 7: of politics and give Donald Trump that positive net approval
Speaker 7: rating when he had pretty much a consistently negative one
Speaker 7: in term number one. As I said, at the beginning,
Speaker 7: he's copying Frank Sinatra doing.
Speaker 6: It my way.
Speaker 1: Hello, Biet, I'm broadcasting crag Man. That was Harry Inton
Speaker 1: of CNN. Yeah, my good friend, my good friend, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is something like plus seven over what he was
Speaker 1: in his first year of his first term when he
Speaker 1: was underwater. We're dealing now with the most popular Republican
Speaker 1: president in our lifetime and segment, you simply need to
Speaker 1: deal with it. You know what I'm saying. I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Give me some sports and make it fast.
Speaker 1: I have coming up soon. Corey Bowman, who's running against
Speaker 1: half debt pureval for mayor, is going to be in
Speaker 1: the Hyde Park class and getting signatures to get on
Speaker 1: the ballot. I'm sure you stand with Corey Borman Bowman,
Speaker 1: whose half brother is JD. Vance, and Bowman's gonna run
Speaker 1: as a conservative Republican pro Trumpster in the City of Cincinnati. Segment.
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Speaker 8: Honduras tonight and then they play here. Their MLS opener
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Speaker 8: Oh, how about this Willie one of the boys winners
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Speaker 1: Say it the park.
Speaker 8: Took SCPA like sixty seven to thirty or something like that.
Speaker 1: Well, the head coach put his cell phone up to
Speaker 1: the locker room before the game. Yeah, and I gave
Speaker 1: the Wildcats a speech that propelled them to victory. For
Speaker 1: Deer Park, it's always victory after victory. And look at
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson he comes to speak to deer Park. Now,
Speaker 1: the Bengals were talking about a long term, guaranteed, bonus
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Speaker 1: Deer Park may have Joe Burrow about a year from now.
Speaker 8: If if you get Joe Burrow to speak for Deer Park,
Speaker 8: you will have to rent out uh. You will have
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Speaker 8: everywhere else in between.
Speaker 1: Second, if you want to have enough room, We've had
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winners before speak for Deer Park. You know,
Speaker 1: that I know that. Yeah, Roger Staubach, that's winner. He
Speaker 1: was there the Navy Purcell, he was there. And I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm confident that Trey Hendrickson will talk about the reception
Speaker 1: that Trey received in Deer Park at Montgomery and Montgomery
Speaker 1: by Tom Gregory, and because of that, negotiations are now underway.
Speaker 8: Also, Willie, let's see EHL hockey tonight along the big
Speaker 8: flooded river downtown. Western Conference leader, the Toledo Walleye will
Speaker 8: take on the Cyclones. And of course tomorrow night four
Speaker 8: Nations Championship on the line, the United States v Canada.
Speaker 1: And you know segment that is a pickham game, according
Speaker 1: to DraftKings. I've looked online. It's a pickham. I would
Speaker 1: think America would be favored in Boston, but it's a
Speaker 1: Pickham game. And there's a rumor, only a rumor, Yes,
Speaker 1: said Donald John Trump may fly from mar A Lago
Speaker 1: to Boston to get it for the game and to
Speaker 1: speak to the boys, kind of like the late Herb
Speaker 1: Brooks in mardl on ice. Now wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 8: Oh oh, would Joe Biden do that? He wouldn't even
Speaker 8: know where Boston or hockey is he'd get lost. But
Speaker 8: remember the name on the front is a hell of
Speaker 8: a lot more important than the one on the back.
Speaker 1: Get that through your head. Herb Brooks and Donald Trump. Oh,
Speaker 1: we live in the era of Trump, Trump and more Trump.
Speaker 8: Well, I get what he ought to do is he
Speaker 8: ought to go on the bench tonight. He's an assistant coach.
Speaker 8: How big would that be?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 8: And or give the ceremonial Uh, puck drop the puck drop?
Speaker 1: Oh, be careful with your language segment. But after two
Speaker 1: o'clock today, we've scheduled Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey to be here
Speaker 1: to talk about the Lincoln Heights situation. Is patrolling the
Speaker 1: streets of Lincoln Heights. And they're not the Nazis. They're
Speaker 1: the opposition group of the Armed Resistance in Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 1: They got action in the in Lincoln Heights. Will he
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, what would what would Richard K. Jones
Speaker 1: say about this?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: He'd probably already have it cleaned up. And and those
Speaker 8: guys out of town. Not good guys are out of town, weren't.
Speaker 1: They They're from Summer in Kentucky. And I want to
Speaker 1: ask the sheriff, there was a U haul rent a
Speaker 1: trailer had a license plate. You can find out who
Speaker 1: these guys are. Of course, in their defense. At this point,
Speaker 1: there's no crime that was committed by the so called
Speaker 1: neo Nazis, but there may have been lots of crimes
Speaker 1: committed by the self appointed militia in Lincoln Heights. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is going on. We're
Speaker 1: gonna all hell breaking loose us. Yes, David Ferrara of
Speaker 1: the inquir did a pretty good job saying that he
Speaker 1: was approached by an armed man, told to put down
Speaker 1: his window and to respond to who are you with
Speaker 1: the gun pointed in his direction in Lincoln Heights. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's called kidnapping. That's called impersonating a police officer. That's
Speaker 1: called inducing panic, that's called disorderly conduct. You can't take
Speaker 1: a rifle and pointed at somebody and say no your rules,
Speaker 1: shut your mouth and do what I tell you to do.
Speaker 1: That's called kidnapping. You know what I'm saying, I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Give me out of the studs reportment.
Speaker 1: We have Corey Bowman coming up, who wants to be
Speaker 1: the man of Cincinnati's gonna run as a pro Trump Republican.
Speaker 1: What are his chances in the city of Cincinnati. Only
Speaker 1: his hairdresser knows for sure.
Speaker 8: Will you in hon of a cold day here at
Speaker 8: the tri State we leave you with the immortal words
Speaker 8: of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 10: I am so excited about this team.
Speaker 3: I'm just getting pumped up about it.
Speaker 1: We need to get pumped up segment Because the experts
Speaker 1: some have picked the Reds to win the division. How
Speaker 1: about that sounds all right to me? Let's continue segment.
Speaker 1: The sheriff coming up after two o'clock today, show them
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WU Elder Bill cunning in the Great American.
Speaker 1: Of course, at this point there appears to be one
Speaker 1: opponent against abdam pure of alfamer Cincinnati, that is Corey Bowman.
Speaker 1: And Corey Bowman is the half brother of JD. Vance.
Speaker 1: And in about ten minutes or so it will be
Speaker 1: at the Hyde Park Plaza to collect signatures. And Corey Bowman,
Speaker 1: first of all, tell the American people where you are
Speaker 1: in your signature process. One must have be done, and
Speaker 1: then one or two things about your platform. But what
Speaker 1: do you seek to do at two o'clock at Hyde
Speaker 1: Park plaster.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 9: Two weeks ago we made the decision to pool petitions
Speaker 9: to run for mayor Cincinnati, so we kind of had
Speaker 9: to hit the ground running. We have had some great
Speaker 9: responses for our signatures. We have to have five hundred
Speaker 9: verified signatures by tomorrow morning in order to get us
Speaker 9: on the ballot. I keep telling people, this is not a.
Speaker 3: Vote for me.
Speaker 9: This is a vote to allow me to convince you
Speaker 9: to vote for me for the next eight months. So
Speaker 9: I believe that this is going to be an awesome
Speaker 9: opportunity for people to see change in the city. But
Speaker 9: I'm going to be at Hyde Park Plaza from two
Speaker 9: to three pm today collecting signatures because we've got to
Speaker 9: be able to get signatures to be able to make
Speaker 9: sure that there's no question we're going to be on
Speaker 9: the ballot.
Speaker 1: Are you running as a Republican, a Democrat or independent?
Speaker 9: Well, on the ticket you have to run as non
Speaker 9: parson as mayor of Cincinnati. But I will say that
Speaker 9: we are being supported by and we are running on
Speaker 9: as a Republican candidate.
Speaker 1: You understand Republicans aren't too popular in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: You understand that I couldn't be telling me that.
Speaker 9: They keep telling me it's impossible.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know what's going on here.
Speaker 1: It could be an uphill battle, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, basically, four weeks ago, I was flying into
Speaker 9: Cincinnati from probably the greatest inauguration that my generation will
Speaker 9: ever see. Saw so much to poor and hope for
Speaker 9: the country, and me and my wife are downtown. This
Speaker 9: is our home. This is not a stepping stone for us.
Speaker 3: This is where we raise our family.
Speaker 9: And I just knew there's no chance that our hometown
Speaker 9: can fall back the next four years, and that's why
Speaker 9: we're running.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Your brother's jd Vance, he's doing quite well. Came back
Speaker 1: from Munich a few days ago. Mike jd Vance campaign
Speaker 1: for you for the mayor's position here in Cincinnati. He
Speaker 1: lives here, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, this is his hometown. He loves Cincinnati about as
Speaker 9: much as I do. But the reality is right now
Speaker 9: is I tell people I've got a good luck and
Speaker 9: love you from him. But right now there's nothing to
Speaker 9: endorse because we have to get on the ballot. After that,
Speaker 9: once we present our platform, our position on key issues.
Speaker 3: In the city.
Speaker 9: There's no telling what will happen, but I believe that
Speaker 9: there's going to be so much momentum behind this campaign
Speaker 9: the next eight months that what is impossible is going
Speaker 9: to start looking like it's possible.
Speaker 1: So, Corey Bowman, brother of JD Vance, you're saying that
Speaker 1: you're going to run more or less as a Trump
Speaker 1: Republican in the city of Cincinnati, Is that correct?
Speaker 9: I'm going to run as a Cincinnatian that cares too
Speaker 9: much about his city to let it be run by
Speaker 9: one hundred percent Democrat city council and mayor to where
Speaker 9: it's just simply an echo chamber. But we've seen things
Speaker 9: the last four years that has left people very frustrated,
Speaker 9: and that's what I'm running on.
Speaker 1: All Okay, So you're going to be at the Hyde
Speaker 1: Park plays and starting at about five or ten minutes
Speaker 1: at two o'clock today till three point thirty, you need
Speaker 1: like one hundred more signatures. So if someone is interested,
Speaker 1: what part of Hyde Park Plaza. Tony Benner's been there
Speaker 1: many times, is at the Kroger store down the way.
Speaker 1: Where will you be if anywhere?
Speaker 9: We're going to be around the parking lots around. Probably
Speaker 9: Marshall's is going to be the area where we are.
Speaker 9: Just be looking for us with the clipboard. Also, you
Speaker 9: can go to King's Arms Coffee Shop, which is our
Speaker 9: coffee shop in the west end of Cincinnati at nineteen
Speaker 9: hundred Bay Miller Street.
Speaker 3: They're going to be there.
Speaker 9: Till three pm and you can sign petitions there as well.
Speaker 9: Worst case scenario, because we've got to get these in
Speaker 9: by tomorrow morning. If you want to sign our petition,
Speaker 9: contact at Coreybowman dot com.
Speaker 5: That's the email.
Speaker 9: Contact at Coreybowman dot com. Reach out to us and
Speaker 9: we will find some way to get your signature.
Speaker 1: It's Corey with a C. Last name is be like
Speaker 1: in boywm a N Corey Bowman dot com. I look
Speaker 1: forward to a constitutional conservative Trumpion being elected the mayor
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. That would be a sign of the apocalypse.
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, thank you very much. Good luck to you
Speaker 1: in the next hour or two. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and
Speaker 1: give my best to Sean Donovan. Will you Oh?
Speaker 9: Absolutely, And it's Corey co r Y. There's no e
Speaker 9: even though Corey Dillon was my favorite football player growing up.
Speaker 1: Number twenty eight. Corey Bowman, you're at the Hyde Park
Speaker 1: Plaza by the Marshalls. Put up a big sign. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Corey Bowman, Thank you very much.
Speaker 9: Thank you Bill so much.
Speaker 1: God bless America News is next. That's your home of
Speaker 1: the Red's News Radio seven hundred WLW my Billy Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great American. About twelve days ago, there were a
Speaker 1: group of so called neo Nazis standing on a bridge
Speaker 1: overpast I seventy five, hurling fourth some of their neo
Speaker 1: Nazi symbols. Since then, all hell's broken loose, I head on.
Speaker 1: A couple hours ago, David Ferrera. Ferrera is a new
Speaker 1: reporter with the Inquir's been out it for about seven
Speaker 1: or eight months, but long experience in the journalism business,
Speaker 1: wrote a column that quote, armed men are guarding the
Speaker 1: streets of Lincoln Heights, stopping cars and vetting passers. By
Speaker 1: joining you and I now. As the Sheriff of Hamilton County,
Speaker 1: Charmaine mcguffey's been out at about thirty some years in
Speaker 1: law enforcement, that twice elected sheriff and Sheriff Welcome again.
Speaker 1: To the Bill Cunningham Show, And first of all, I
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to this inquir story about
Speaker 1: armed men walking up to a car windows with guns
Speaker 1: pointed in that direction, ordering the occupants to do or
Speaker 1: not do certain things. What about that?
Speaker 11: Well, thank you Bill for having me on so that
Speaker 11: I can tell the constituents of Hamlin County the facts.
Speaker 11: First of all, report there were two reports made about this.
Speaker 11: The first report was a report that round at this
Speaker 11: there was a woman on the fourteenth here of February
Speaker 11: who was sitting at a stop sign and she wrote
Speaker 11: her wins down and she took photos of a man
Speaker 11: standing with carrying a firearm open carry, and the man
Speaker 11: stepped to her window and said, I don't want this
Speaker 11: on Facebook. Delete it, and she did and then she
Speaker 11: drove off and she it was called in as an
Speaker 11: information only because there was no crime. There was no
Speaker 11: crime committed, so we took that report on the fourteenth
Speaker 11: as an information only. The next one that we have
Speaker 11: and these are the only two actual reports that we
Speaker 11: have where citizens actually reported to us something, and that
Speaker 11: is a man who on the tenth he was sitting
Speaker 11: to stop sign and a man approached his window and
Speaker 11: said who was open carrying and said, you know you
Speaker 11: you don't need to be here, you should leave. And
Speaker 11: the man and then the driver that he wasn't standing
Speaker 11: in front of the vehicle. He didn't point the gun
Speaker 11: at the man. He stepped away from the car, and
Speaker 11: the man turned left and left and left Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 11: And that happened on the tenth. After the man talked
Speaker 11: to the reporter who he just named, he went up
Speaker 11: to this man who was in the car. He went
Speaker 11: up to our Sycamore Township location and filed a report
Speaker 11: yesterday at like four point thirty in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: So that was then.
Speaker 11: You know that what got routed to our CIS division,
Speaker 11: which is our Criminal Investigation Division, and it's already been
Speaker 11: assigned to a detective to investigate. And those are the
Speaker 11: two reports we have. And literally, I mean you know,
Speaker 11: the thing that is alleged to be something that was
Speaker 11: a complaint was filed last night at four thirty in
Speaker 11: the evening.
Speaker 1: If somebody would drive I talked to another inchoir reporter
Speaker 1: other than Ferrara, who told me that there are armed
Speaker 1: men standing on street corners with some aimatic weapons. May
Speaker 1: I say, that's not illegal just to stand there. We're
Speaker 1: an open carry state. However, it is illegal to point
Speaker 1: the gun at somebody in order them to do something
Speaker 1: that could be kidnapping, could be inducing panic, could be
Speaker 1: impersonating a police officer. The one report was that the
Speaker 1: man and the photos in the inquir story from a
Speaker 1: couple of days previous, it looks rather intimidating to have
Speaker 1: armed men pointing rifles at citizens, and in fact, in
Speaker 1: the story it says maybe a report wasn't filed that
Speaker 1: in the Wendy's drive through some of these armed men
Speaker 1: who are defending Lincoln Ice would walk up to someone
Speaker 1: in the drive through and point a weapon in the
Speaker 1: direction of somebody waiting for their hamburger. Have you gotten
Speaker 1: a report on that one?
Speaker 11: I have not.
Speaker 3: I have not. Bill.
Speaker 11: I'm telling you, we do not have anything in writing.
Speaker 11: We have no one calling our districts or calling us
Speaker 11: to allege any of that happening. Our deputy did respond
Speaker 11: to a call to come to Wendy's. He spoke to
Speaker 11: the manager there and the manager asked him, what are
Speaker 11: these men who on carrying weapons? And our deputy said, well,
Speaker 11: it's open carry. And just like with the neo Nazis.
Speaker 11: The Ohio legislature has an open carry for Ohio. We
Speaker 11: cannot go and arrest anyone for open carry. And that
Speaker 11: is what the manager said to our deputy. He didn't
Speaker 11: tell our deputy that anybody was pointing a weapon. None
Speaker 11: of that was alligated. We have none of that on paper.
Speaker 11: If somebody has a picture of it, please send it
Speaker 11: to us. I mean, you know, these are things that
Speaker 11: in the police world. In the cop world, we write
Speaker 11: it down. We write down times, down places, And the
Speaker 11: deputy said when he talked to the Wendy's manager, the
Speaker 11: Wendy's manager said, okay, I just wanted to ask the question.
Speaker 1: Okay, as far as what message, as the chief law
Speaker 1: enforcement officer of Hamlin A County, would you send to
Speaker 1: residents of Lincoln Heights or the area that would dress
Speaker 1: up looking like police. They have emblems. One of the times,
Speaker 1: according to the inquiry reporter, he said, we are the police,
Speaker 1: and that standing on street corners is one thing. Pointing
Speaker 1: a rifle at somebody it's like almost a kidnapping charge.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, what message would you send to
Speaker 1: those who continue to continue to do this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff in Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I would like to I would
Speaker 11: like to differentiate between an allegation and an actual provable fact.
Speaker 11: We have no evidence that that happened, other than someone
Speaker 11: saying it happened. Again, if we have a picture, if
Speaker 11: we have an actual report a street of something for
Speaker 11: us go investigate. Deputies have been called to certain areas
Speaker 11: and when they get there, they observe a man standing
Speaker 11: with an open carry. And what the message to everyone,
Speaker 11: not just Lincoln Heights, but everyone. Look, law enforcement is
Speaker 11: being as absolutely transparent about this and as anybody can,
Speaker 11: right because there are certain things that are under investigation.
Speaker 11: But every department that's been involved in this has released
Speaker 11: body cam, has addressed public people, have addressed public meetings.
Speaker 11: I mean, we're all working to push out this information
Speaker 11: to vilify the police, any police, any police officer, to
Speaker 11: vilify that person because that officer has not been given
Speaker 11: the tools by the Ohio state legislators to do something
Speaker 11: to make arrest in those situations, to confront people for IDs,
Speaker 11: which we can't demand an ID. We can't do the
Speaker 11: things that we would want to do. And I'm pleading
Speaker 11: with everyone to you know what, there's no reason to
Speaker 11: vilify police officers. I guarantee you no one was involved
Speaker 11: with the Nazis. No one knew this was coming. I've
Speaker 11: talked to numerous people, numerous chiefs all around Hamilton County.
Speaker 11: Every one of us is outraged. Every officer is outraged,
Speaker 11: and I'm begging people to please keep your.
Speaker 2: Head about this.
Speaker 11: Look, you know, we're doing what we can. If there's
Speaker 11: any way we can bring some of these men to
Speaker 11: justice who were spewing all of that hate speech and
Speaker 11: so forth, we will. But you know, there has to
Speaker 11: be a process. I don't care where we are or
Speaker 11: what department you're with. There's a process in government to
Speaker 11: make things happen and do things so you don't get sued,
Speaker 11: so people don't get shot and so forth, and people
Speaker 11: aren't injured. And our deputies and the officers that responded
Speaker 11: did everything they could, everything they knew to do to
Speaker 11: de escalate, and that's what we're trained for.
Speaker 1: Sheriff mccuffey, do you have a specific person in Lincoln
Speaker 1: Heights who's like a command or somebody in charge who's
Speaker 1: physically present daily or is it something on a nine
Speaker 1: to one one basis someone is sent there? Is there
Speaker 1: like a sub station or sheriff's deputy sitting there day
Speaker 1: by day or is it a nine to one one
Speaker 1: call then you go there.
Speaker 11: No, No, our station is manned and uh and it
Speaker 11: is in Lincoln Heights. It sits dead in Lincoln Heights,
Speaker 11: and it is it's a substation of type, right, But
Speaker 11: that's where our officers are, Our patrol cars are there,
Speaker 11: Our officers are in and out of that building. It
Speaker 11: is very very easy to be in Lincoln Heights and
Speaker 11: contact a patrol officer if you're there, if you come
Speaker 11: to the district, And those are things we encourage people
Speaker 11: to do if they have a complaint or they can
Speaker 11: make a call. One thing, I want to point out
Speaker 11: these nine one one calls, and I know nine one
Speaker 11: wants to be flooded with calls about out men carrying weapons,
Speaker 11: men standing on a street corner armed with a rifle,
Speaker 11: and so forth. Look, you know, I have to tell
Speaker 11: people and I have to point them in the right direction.
Speaker 11: It's not the police. Those are your Ohio legislators that
Speaker 11: need to make better gun safety laws and whatever they're
Speaker 11: going to do. But as soon as they say it's
Speaker 11: okay to open carry, I mean our hands are tied,
Speaker 11: and I you know, whether you're a hate speech person
Speaker 11: a Nazi, which is you know, I just can't even
Speaker 11: say enough, how just disgusted I am with the Nazis
Speaker 11: and what their messaging is and so forth. I'm disgusted.
Speaker 11: But you can't differentiate. You can't say, well, the Nazis
Speaker 11: get to carry open carry and nobody else does. Well,
Speaker 11: that's not realistic. And if we want to change the
Speaker 11: laws and we want to make this less of a wildlifless,
Speaker 11: the Ohio legislators need to get get together, get working
Speaker 11: and legislate this so that the police have some options.
Speaker 1: So if someone in Lincoln Heights at a Wendy's drive
Speaker 1: through has a person walking up to them appearing to
Speaker 1: want to look like a police officer, the photo looks
Speaker 1: like someone who might be a cop and wants to
Speaker 1: question them. That person, assuming it doesn't happen in the
Speaker 1: presence of a police officer, and most crime does not,
Speaker 1: that person's got to follow a complaint and say, essentially academically,
Speaker 1: that would be kidnapping. You can't point a gun at
Speaker 1: somebody and say unless you do something, something else is
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 11: Correct, Well, that's exactly right, Bill, That's exactly right. We
Speaker 11: need to know. We need a report because we need time,
Speaker 11: we need date, we need location, we need any witnesses.
Speaker 11: We need all of that information so that we can
Speaker 11: follow this down. Listen, our officers and deputies in Hamilton
Speaker 11: County are incredibly courageous. They put themselves on the line
Speaker 11: every day, all day, and I'm asking the citizens to
Speaker 11: please respect that. I mean, we can't run down just
Speaker 11: because somebody you know, calls you, for instance, and says, hey,
Speaker 11: this happened to me, but yet we have no record
Speaker 11: of it. We have no report, we have no information.
Speaker 11: You know, it's ridiculous to think that somehow we're responsible
Speaker 11: for not responding.
Speaker 1: How about this one the incidents, there was an information
Speaker 1: on only on the fourteenth, a woman in a car,
Speaker 1: a man on the tenth, and last night, an inquiry
Speaker 1: reporter indirectly or directly filed a complaint about the gun
Speaker 1: pointed at the reporter, who's David Ferrera. And that's what
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier and at this point, and are you
Speaker 1: going to thoroughly investigate these allegations of really crimes committed
Speaker 1: by Lincoln Heights or others who appear to be police
Speaker 1: who point guns at people and say do something. Are
Speaker 1: you going to actively investigate that over the next few days.
Speaker 11: Of course I am, and I would do it, whether
Speaker 11: it was in Lincoln Heights or Sycamore Township or anywhere
Speaker 11: else we patrol, and every other police chief in this
Speaker 11: arena would do the same. You know, if we get
Speaker 11: a complaint which I have not seen or heard of,
Speaker 11: any complaint that this reporter filed saying that someone pointed
Speaker 11: a gun at him, and I will, after this call,
Speaker 11: promise you, I will call the supervisors and majors and
Speaker 11: so forth and run this down to find out. But
Speaker 11: before you talk to me on the phone, I made calls.
Speaker 11: I talked to the lieutenant, the commander of Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 11: I talked to other majors.
Speaker 5: What have we seen?
Speaker 11: What has been reported? And the two things we just
Speaker 11: talked about were the only things. No one has alligated
Speaker 11: that a weapon has been pointed at him.
Speaker 5: Nobody.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, David Ferrara said that about two hours ago,
Speaker 1: and off the air. I'll send you a cell phone
Speaker 1: number to expedite things. I have a text here from
Speaker 1: a police officer who says, are you tracking down the
Speaker 1: neo Nazis because they used a U haul with a
Speaker 1: license plate from I think Kentucky. Is that something across
Speaker 1: state lines the FBI would do or is that something
Speaker 1: are you interested in identifying the neo Nazis at all?
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I addressed all of that bill
Speaker 11: in my press conference yesterday, and the purpose of the
Speaker 11: press conference was to clarify those things for the public. Right,
Speaker 11: there are certain things that we are allowed to do
Speaker 11: by law. There are other things that I have asked
Speaker 11: the county prosecutor to research and potentially investigate. I've talked
Speaker 11: to the lead special officer in the FBI for the
Speaker 11: Cincinnati Division and the Ohio Criminal Investigations of EUREA, and
Speaker 11: you know, I have tentacles out to all those people,
Speaker 11: and everyone's working in a legal way to do what
Speaker 11: they can do. And you know, we're working with other
Speaker 11: agencies that also track these hate crimes and so forth
Speaker 11: that aren't policing agencies so that they can share their
Speaker 11: information with us. Now, you know, that's the extent of
Speaker 11: what we can do, and I made that very clear.
Speaker 11: And you know, once again, I want to emphasize the
Speaker 11: officers that responded to this were under extreme stress. You know,
Speaker 11: they were acting as they're trained to act, which is
Speaker 11: to de escalate. Get these men out of the area.
Speaker 11: And again I call for people, please stand down, do
Speaker 11: not threaten our officers, don't don't do things that escalate this.
Speaker 11: We're working as hard as we can. And there isn't
Speaker 11: one person I've talked to in uniform that isn't, you know,
Speaker 11: absolutely on board.
Speaker 5: This was disgusting.
Speaker 11: It should never go on. And we're going to absolutely
Speaker 11: train and be better, you know, and hopefully I don't know,
Speaker 11: you know, be be not surprised is the way I
Speaker 11: should put it. Not surprised when this happens again, and
Speaker 11: orchestrate our response.
Speaker 1: And it will, I'm sure will I will. And lastly,
Speaker 1: you told me off there crime is down seventy percent
Speaker 1: on Lincoln Heights. Is that correct? So the last five
Speaker 1: to three or four, five, six, seven years are the
Speaker 1: crime rates way down?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 10: It is.
Speaker 11: In twenty fifteen, and I have these numbers prepared. We
Speaker 11: call it Part one, which is serious crimes, felonies, robbery, shootings, murders,
Speaker 11: anything like that. There were one hundred and three that
Speaker 11: were investigated and so forth in twenty fifteen and Now
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four there are sixty six. That's a
Speaker 11: reduction of about thirty five percent. For Part two crimes,
Speaker 11: which are misdemeanors excluding traffic, which would be like disorderly conduct,
Speaker 11: drug abuse, DUI, things like that. Uh, there were two
Speaker 11: hundred and sixty six that were investigated and in fifteen,
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four there were one hundred and forty four.
Speaker 11: That's a forty five percent reduction. And that is where
Speaker 11: I get, you know, a conservative number of seventy percent.
Speaker 11: Crime is down seventy percent in Lincoln Heights. And it's
Speaker 11: not only just due to the police officers, which are
Speaker 11: doing a great job over there, all right, an excellent job,
Speaker 11: but it's also the community that's cooperating. The community wants
Speaker 11: crime down, and we've had great, great cooperation from the
Speaker 11: Lincoln Heights mayor from their council. We feel very comfortable
Speaker 11: talking to them, and you know they're helping with this
Speaker 11: with a lot of youth initiatives and things like that. So, yes,
Speaker 11: crime is down on Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 1: Fine, we got to go, But Sheriff McGuffey, thank you,
Speaker 1: and I'll share with you with his permission, the telephone
Speaker 1: number of the reporter who had a gun pointed at him. Also,
Speaker 1: a guy named Jim Meister, said that he lives in
Speaker 1: Lincoln Heights. He tells this person quote, I'm calling the police,
Speaker 1: and that this person with the gun the rifle pointed
Speaker 1: at him and said we are the police. And so
Speaker 1: Jim Meister is another one. If he'll step forward, raise
Speaker 1: his hands, go okay, this is what happened to me.
Speaker 1: This is who did it?
Speaker 11: Away, you go, yep, report it to us. It will
Speaker 11: be investigated to the fullest, and if there has been
Speaker 11: a crime committed, we will certainly prosecute that to its fullest.
Speaker 1: Submit it to prosecutor's office, and let's see what's happened
Speaker 1: to rest here it out. Hopefully crime is also down.
Speaker 1: But according to this reporter for the inquired, there have
Speaker 1: been numerous examples of guns pointed at people. And I'm
Speaker 1: going to make you. I'll give you the number with
Speaker 1: his permission, and then if that happens away we go.
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, Bill, and thank you very much. And my
Speaker 11: appeal to the public, please make that clear. You know,
Speaker 11: give us a chance, give us some room. Our people
Speaker 11: that are wearing that uniform, they're people too. They have feelings.
Speaker 11: They're working hard, they work day and night. They're doing
Speaker 11: the right things.
Speaker 1: So thank you very much, Sheriff McGuffey, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Thank you very much. Let's continue with
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Speaker 10: We gave them, I believe three hundred and fifty billion dollars,
Speaker 10: but let's say something less than that. But it's a lot,
Speaker 10: and we have to equalize with Europe because Europe has
Speaker 10: given us given a very much smaller.
Speaker 1: Percentage in that.
Speaker 10: I think Europe has given a hundred billion and we've
Speaker 10: given let's say three hundred plus. And it's more important
Speaker 10: for them than it.
Speaker 1: Is for us.
Speaker 10: We have an ocean in between and they don't. But
Speaker 10: where is all the money that's been given? Where is
Speaker 10: it going? And nobody I've never seen an accounting of it.
Speaker 10: We give hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't see any accounting. So I want to see piece.
Speaker 10: Look, you know why I want because I don't want
Speaker 10: all these people killed anymore. I'm looking at people that
Speaker 10: is that we gave him.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: First of our rock. I need your comments not only
Speaker 1: about Pete Rose and what's happening there out of Goodyear,
Speaker 1: about the price remarks about Ukraine, but also about armed
Speaker 1: militias standing around the street corners in Lincoln Heights looking
Speaker 1: like Lynja warriors. Your comments and all of that, if
Speaker 1: any we want, we want first Pete Rose, Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: give me Pete So they're not comment on Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: they're not. Commissioner.
Speaker 8: Commissioner mister was asked about Pete Rose, you know, passed
Speaker 8: away anything about the now that with the getting into
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame, and he just comment that same thing.
Speaker 8: All he is, all he's worried about is like he's
Speaker 8: not worried that the Dodgers are spending eighty six billion
Speaker 8: dollars for a baseball team. Well, the rest of the
Speaker 8: league just goes to, you know what, you know, that's okay,
Speaker 8: that's okay. No, but the Reds are wearing fourteen patches.
Speaker 8: It's correct, they gotta and they got a Pete Ros night.
Speaker 8: So I don't know, maybe they'll invite him and maybe
Speaker 8: he'll see the light.
Speaker 12: If you go on my Twitter right now, you will
Speaker 12: see Peter Rose Junior just tweeted a picture of his
Speaker 12: son PJ saw that in the cages at that swing,
Speaker 12: looking good, just like the old man.
Speaker 1: That's right. I don't know, but at least at fourteen
Speaker 1: will be on the uniforms. But uh, you know, betting
Speaker 1: paraphernalia and the betting sites are all over everywhere content
Speaker 1: and suddenly betting and baseball is wrong and I'm looking,
Speaker 1: you know, God bless all the betting sites MGM and
Speaker 1: of course DraftKings, Sportsbook Dot, God bless them. If you
Speaker 1: want to gamble, gamble, I want to smoke pot, Go
Speaker 1: ahead and smoke pot. You're an Adultoo what you gotta do?
Speaker 12: Let me ask you, and I agree to do what
Speaker 12: you want to do. But how do you think that's
Speaker 12: going to work out? The pot legalization and the widespread
Speaker 12: gambling legalizing. How's that going to work out in ten
Speaker 12: years in your opinion?
Speaker 1: Well, talk to the little rock, because I think you
Speaker 1: and I are over the humps. Teg Man's over the hump.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to start drinking all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to start smoking all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I hope at my age, I'm gonna start gambling things away.
Speaker 1: I foubt that's going to happen. But when kids grew
Speaker 1: up in an environment in which gambling legal and illegal
Speaker 1: use of marijuana and or other loocinogenic drugs, uh, and
Speaker 1: don't get married, don't have a wife, don't have kids,
Speaker 1: don't get educated. All of a sudden, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: sure in ten or twenty years, if you're twenty five
Speaker 1: or forty five years old, you want to smoke pot
Speaker 1: and have a martini, have at it. But we're sending
Speaker 1: messages to the little rocks of the world that you know,
Speaker 1: betting is good and uh, betting on baseball is bad.
Speaker 1: However it's good. And then you're told don't smoke pot.
Speaker 1: But then okay, you got you smoke pot. It's legal.
Speaker 1: The state's making a hundred million dollars maybe up to
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars a year, and alcohol and beer
Speaker 1: is ubiquitous. Adults should make adult decisions. But we're conditioning
Speaker 1: young folks to think differently about these things. And we
Speaker 1: thought about.
Speaker 12: Parents I talk to that have kids that are teenagers,
Speaker 12: especially teenage boys, that they say all they do is
Speaker 12: is do go on the phone and do the game
Speaker 12: week like they don't go out. They don't go to parties,
Speaker 12: they don't go chase girls, and don't go call girls up.
Speaker 1: And ask them out to go on a date.
Speaker 12: They sit around on their phones and they and they
Speaker 12: gamble online.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. I hate to say this, but maybe not
Speaker 1: yet in your life, Rock, but you're gonna be confronted
Speaker 1: with a circumstance where some of your male sons in
Speaker 1: their teenage years are going to be looking porn and
Speaker 1: probably ten to twenty percent of boys and not girls
Speaker 1: so much. Boys are going to be addicted to porn.
Speaker 1: And you put the porn with the drugs, the alcohol,
Speaker 1: the smoking, the pot and education not being valued. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure long term this is good for our society
Speaker 1: to be starting now.
Speaker 12: Agreed, Yeah, free and do what you want to do
Speaker 12: all that, but it's I can't see how it's gonna
Speaker 12: be a good thing.
Speaker 1: Got a parent, got gotta be a good parent, Gotta
Speaker 1: be now. Lastly, I watched all the shows simultaneously, and
Speaker 1: ESPN this morning and also Fox Sports this morning are
Speaker 1: saying again the Bengals have the window open and they
Speaker 1: don't need another T. Higgins. What they need is two
Speaker 1: or three offensive linemen to sign them and then trade
Speaker 1: them as the way to go, because this guy's gonna
Speaker 1: make what twenty seven twenty eight million dollars for one year,
Speaker 1: be twenty two million last year, but that the top
Speaker 1: receivers are making up to forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Half of that guaranteed your comments, I understand that.
Speaker 12: But there's a line of thinking that I largely agree with,
Speaker 12: and that is sign your own right. Guys that you
Speaker 12: drafts and guys you developed, guys you've had in your program.
Speaker 12: If they're productive for you, and especially in T's case,
Speaker 12: ultra productive, sign them.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 12: I agree with getting offensive lineman. The problem will he
Speaker 12: is there's no great game changing linemen that are going
Speaker 12: to be on the free agent market buying large. Maybe
Speaker 12: a couple, but usually if you get those guys, you
Speaker 12: can't find those guys.
Speaker 1: And so when you find one, teams don't let them go.
Speaker 1: And the guys that they do let go, it's usually
Speaker 1: for a reason.
Speaker 12: They're old, or they're not as good as everyone thinks
Speaker 12: they are, or they're maybe a little bit of a malcontent.
Speaker 12: So you know, you can't find those linemen in free agency.
Speaker 12: You've got to draft them and develop them and the
Speaker 12: Bengals have not been able to do that well.
Speaker 1: In fact, wels They're going to keep that.
Speaker 8: They want to keep number nine happy. So whatever ES says,
Speaker 8: I mean, number number nine has been has been negotiating
Speaker 8: for them for what three months or almost all season
Speaker 8: Megan's Chase Hendrickson. It's like they got to they want
Speaker 8: to keep him happy. They don't care about what ESPN says.
Speaker 8: They want to keep number nine happy.
Speaker 12: Well, I think they know that you're not going to
Speaker 12: build a defense of the caliber of the Eagles in
Speaker 12: one offseason. It's impossible, right, So what do you do
Speaker 12: with the limited time and limited resources. One class of
Speaker 12: free agency, one class a draft. You sign the guy
Speaker 12: that you know is great in your system, t Higgins
Speaker 12: one healthy and just and you outscore people. You get
Speaker 12: a little bit better at defense. Okay, again, you're not
Speaker 12: gonna have the you know, the eighty five Bears or
Speaker 12: the you know, the twenty twenty four Eagles defense. But
Speaker 12: get a little bit better at defense and keep your
Speaker 12: offensive firepower and outscore people.
Speaker 1: Well at that point, Colin Coward, but one of the
Speaker 1: stars of morning Sports Talk, said that Joe Barrow will
Speaker 1: be gone within three years and I'm listening to this,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, stop it, stop it right now. I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear Joe Burrow demanding to be traded. He
Speaker 1: said he's gonna pull the old number nine is going
Speaker 1: to be pulled out again and said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we can't take it anymore. Heisman Trophy winner, first team
Speaker 1: All American Southern Colis Finals. It's gonna be one of
Speaker 1: those situations and that would be disgusting. And I hope
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. I hope it doesn't happen too.
Speaker 12: But I mean, as long as the Bengals continue to
Speaker 12: upgrade that team and make it clear to him and
Speaker 12: everybody that we're doing everything possible under the sun to
Speaker 12: draft well, to acquire great free agents, to develop our team,
Speaker 12: to coach our team.
Speaker 1: If you're doing all that and then the guy leaves,
Speaker 1: what can you do? But is that happening? If that happen,
Speaker 1: don't I don't first see that happening. I do not.
Speaker 8: And if he if they keep winning, if they start winning, yeah,
Speaker 8: then he's gonna thing you gotta win.
Speaker 12: But if if they do, if they have another year
Speaker 12: like this past year where they can't stop anybody, and
Speaker 12: the run game isn't great, and you know you'll find
Speaker 12: yourself in a situation where you're not winning games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys can upset and they want to go to
Speaker 1: a winner. You old rock. The experts say you had
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback top three in the league. You have
Speaker 1: the elite receiving corp number one MVP, number of Triple
Speaker 1: Crown winner and number three you got Trey Henderson lead
Speaker 1: the How do you lead the league in sacks? How
Speaker 1: do you have the Triple Crown winner in receiving and
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the quarterback and you go nine to eight,
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs? How's that possible? That's a tough one.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
Speaker 12: The biggest thing that needs to happen that I don't
Speaker 12: hear people talking about is the Bengals need Marius Mims
Speaker 12: to show up this year in year two.
Speaker 1: And be a dude, bud dude.
Speaker 12: They need him again. They draft him. The guy looks
Speaker 12: like a Donasi. I mean, he had did a lot
Speaker 12: of great things this year, but they need him to
Speaker 12: be a cornerstone offensive tackle for the next eight years.
Speaker 12: If that happens, that's a huge, huge piece that goes
Speaker 12: well into them being a great team.
Speaker 1: All right, segment, give me into sports quickly because time
Speaker 1: is a wasted will.
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Speaker 8: reports former Bengals defensive tackle Doma pop peco So this
Speaker 8: is going to be the new defensive line coach for
Speaker 8: prime time at Colorado. It's spent eleven years in a
Speaker 8: Bengals uniform. The NFL salary cap rock Saw, they say,
Speaker 8: is going to fall within the range at two hundred
Speaker 8: and seventy seven and a half to two hundred and
Speaker 8: eighty one and a half mill The cap has increased
Speaker 8: more than fifty three million dollars in over the last
Speaker 8: two years.
Speaker 12: So let's go back and look at my last year
Speaker 12: in the league two thousand and nine. Okay, the cap
Speaker 12: this year is going to be two hundred and eighty
Speaker 12: million dollars. My last en year league two thousand and nine,
Speaker 12: it was one hundred and twenty three million. It has
Speaker 12: gone up cheese significantly, significantly.
Speaker 8: That's three times. That's because of right. You might as
Speaker 8: well get my well credited too. He gets blamed for
Speaker 8: everything else.
Speaker 1: Effect No, he's he's responsible for the plane crash in Toronto.
Speaker 1: You know that a couple of days ago.
Speaker 12: There's so much misinformation going on out there, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: The one that I see is good.
Speaker 12: He's cutting U cancer research programs and Elon Musk is
Speaker 12: cutting this and not SpaceX. Do people not understand Elon
Speaker 12: Musk does not have the power to cut anything. He
Speaker 12: has been given the responsibility by the President to find
Speaker 12: government waste, and the strategy is to find that waste,
Speaker 12: get the people rolled up and pissed off, which we
Speaker 12: rightfully should be, and then he's got to go to
Speaker 12: Congress and they got to do the ones that that
Speaker 12: are cutting. Right now, nothing has been cut. We have
Speaker 12: not gotten any more money back from us, none of
Speaker 12: that stuff. But it has been identified and hopefully the
Speaker 12: morons in Congress will come together and pass bill say
Speaker 12: we're not we're not paying for that, that, that that that,
Speaker 12: and that he is Elon Musk has not cut anything
Speaker 12: from any anybody. You don't have that power, can do
Speaker 12: people understand that I don't.
Speaker 1: Think and I don't think point that's foolish. Thank you, Yes, Mike,
Speaker 1: thank you. At some point one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: year old, we have eighteen thousand Americans getting Social Security
Speaker 1: checks that are older than one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: years old. Somehow that is not accurate. Somehow that must
Speaker 1: be stopped. Are you willing to give up your Social
Speaker 1: Security check? Yes? Yes, I will, and say that, promise,
Speaker 1: promise that government spending. I don't need it. I'd like
Speaker 1: to have it a course, I got country club dues.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless of people I know, rich guys like Segment
Speaker 1: and any fingers would give up Social Security Mike McConnell
Speaker 1: if the money went for a good purpose. I don't
Speaker 1: want it. I don't need it save the country. Yes,
Speaker 1: But on one hand we're told we have to cut
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, we're told we're not cutting
Speaker 1: into government programs. Just give me a break. There's not
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand Americas that are one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five years old. I don't believe this is
Speaker 1: a great this is a great issue.
Speaker 12: For Trump and the Republicans because they have they have
Speaker 12: found an issue where the opponents find themselves rooting against
Speaker 12: cutting government waste.
Speaker 1: That is not a good position to be in.
Speaker 12: That will be plaster on every campaign they had in
Speaker 12: the midterms, all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna be a yeah. So yeah, we've
Speaker 1: got two minutes remaining. You better go a little more quickly.
Speaker 8: Bearcats and Bearcats at West Virginia tonight Willie at six thirty,
Speaker 8: Vanderbilt in Kentucky at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. Uh,
Speaker 8: let's see FC Cincinnati and FC Montagua and Honduras tonight
Speaker 8: in the CONCACAFF champions Cup. First, you're talking about, say
Speaker 8: nine to thirty on Fox Sports thirteen to sixty. Where
Speaker 8: are they playing the Concordoras Hondoras Montagua is the team?
Speaker 8: Isn't there a basketball reader like right down the street?
Speaker 1: I think? So to take a left. Let's see Red's
Speaker 1: getting riy, Red's getting well.
Speaker 8: Then they got the MLS opener and on saturd today
Speaker 8: supposed to be like freezing temperatures on Saturday night at
Speaker 8: t QL State, what rather big hockey game this weekend
Speaker 8: is the Hockey Game four Nations Championship tomorrow night, rock.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna take Canada, the United States and
Speaker 1: Canada arch.
Speaker 8: Somebody said in the hallway, you're a big Nathan mccannon fan,
Speaker 8: and Connor McDavid.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. What may be there? Trump may fly? Oh,
Speaker 1: that would be the miracle on ice too. Drop the puck,
Speaker 1: dropped the puck u e hl action tonight.
Speaker 8: Our beloved Cyclones are right along the flooded river up
Speaker 8: against the Toledo Walleye and the Reds getting ready for
Speaker 8: that Cactus League opener Saturday, Hunter Green on the mound
Speaker 8: against those Guardians. The action right here on the seven
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Speaker 1: Doctor Marshall.
Speaker 12: Yesterday, I suppose there's a new attitude, new Pepp and
Speaker 12: the staff. Things are being run a little more st
Speaker 12: Wonder why we're rocking and rolling out there.
Speaker 1: Frantona Tito laying it down. Well, I'm gonna play golf
Speaker 1: with him when Marty get when he gets Bock, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to Kenwood and we're gonna play for some money.
Speaker 1: I like to get some of that five million dollars
Speaker 1: in my pocket. But uh, segment Rock, thank you all
Speaker 1: being with you at five o'clock segment. Get me out
Speaker 1: of the Scoote Report, please, will you?
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