WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence and name was dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.480 enough out here looking him near the window now and 34 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:05.040 I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 35 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:11.080 Indeed is point you're right, Kara y Hello, hit theboddy 36 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:13.199 out here? What went on out there? It's thought of 37 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.159 a bit of about sixty nine. I don't know. Easy 38 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.039 him out there. Yeah, I'm woking right. 39 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.800 Ahead, Oh, Readings. What I wanted to share with you 40 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:25.120 today comes from Kieren and James. They had their sixteen 41 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.680 year old son with them. Kieren and James used to 42 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:31.560 live near the cash Whitna River. One of James is 43 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:35.000 things that he wanted to always do was go back 44 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.280 up in there. Because the cash cuts into the mountains, 45 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:40.520 it has all these little finger valleys, and James wanted 46 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.639 to do some prospecting. He wanted to look for gold. 47 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.520 He had a metal detector. He wanted to maybe strike 48 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:49.039 it rich, maybe find a little gold and have a 49 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:53.680 story or whatever. And since his son was sixteen, they decided, okay, 50 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.680 let's make it happen. Now, this is approximately ten years ago. 51 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.680 If you google it, the cash Wit it's pretty rough. 52 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:02.800 It's pretty hairy. Once you get back up in there. 53 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:04.599 A lot of rocks in the rivers, there's a lot 54 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.039 of whitewater and whatnot. So what they ended up doing 55 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:11.960 was taking time and hiking back in there. That is 56 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.360 a whole lot of bushwhacken. From what James said, it 57 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.879 was one of the most trying adventures of his life. 58 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.800 He said, initially he knew what he was getting into, 59 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.039 but once he got into the tangles of the alders 60 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:28.560 and the willows, it was just miserable trying to fight 61 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.680 through there. So they make it up. It took a 62 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:35.080 couple of days. They took their time. Karen was nursing 63 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.240 a knee surgery from a couple of years prior, so 64 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.879 they were taking it easy for her sake. James and 65 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:43.879 his son, they were eager to get up in there, 66 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.719 and his son wasn't too into it. I loved the outdoors, 67 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.000 but he knew what they were getting into as well, 68 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.680 and he wasn't looking forward to the arduous hiking around. 69 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.800 They found some game trails. Some of it was made 70 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:59.000 easier with the game trails and whatnot, but a large 71 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:02.960 portion was pretty miserable, going a lot of rain. Initially, 72 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:05.759 he said, once they got back up to these twin 73 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:08.719 finger valleys, they were going to start up the one 74 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:11.599 that was off to the left, but at that time 75 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:13.840 it was just two dance. They went up a little 76 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.480 ways and it was miserable, so they decided to go 77 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.959 to the one to the right. Now, the one to 78 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.759 the right had a fast flooring creek that was fed 79 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.279 by the mountains. He said, the water was great. They 80 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.839 drank the water. It was a good time. Once they 81 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.680 got to the location, they were out there for four 82 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:33.480 days initially. On the morning of the fifth day they 83 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.839 were going back up in there. He had found some flakes, 84 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:40.399 enough little flakes to really wet the appetite, and he 85 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.120 wanted to get up to where he thought maybe there'd 86 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.360 be some nuggets hiding out. So Karen waited at camp, 87 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.000 bear guns and all that. They've been around the block 88 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.560 enough times to know, protect yourself. James and the sun 89 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:57.279 start heading up this creek. Now, of course, twenty twenty hindsight, 90 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.480 Karen should not have been left alone. They know that 91 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.079 him and his son hit up this creek. You got 92 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:07.439 to understand exactly holy shit, twisted tangled mess crawling in 93 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.759 through there. Him and his boy had on chest waiters. 94 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.439 James was in the lead, and they get about a 95 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:16.279 half mile outside of camp. He said the sun hadn't 96 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:18.079 come up over the mountains yet, but it was still 97 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.480 plenty of light. Everything was silhouetted, the trees and stuff 98 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.639 were still dark. Initially there were songbirds. The rain wasn't 99 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:28.360 too bad, but because of the rain prior to a 100 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.199 lot of it was still seeping out of the mountains 101 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.560 and making that little creek. They were going up ravenous 102 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.319 at times, really rough at times, so they were poking 103 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.279 in that out. They'd walk along the creek and then 104 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:41.360 get up into the brush and go around the real 105 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:45.560 rough spots where it was just whitewater. Welopping around as 106 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.600 they were just setting up, because he was using his 107 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.000 metal detector getting around the rocks and the creek and stuff, 108 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.160 and he had got a signal he got a hit 109 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.360 and he was like, all right, good, and he looks 110 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:58.839 back at his son and tells him, hey, dig out 111 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.839 my speede out of that bucket. It's the yellow bucket. 112 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.040 And as he's talking to his son, he's looking red 113 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:06.879 at him, and his son's just on the bank from 114 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:11.040 the creek, like six feet away behind his boy. He 115 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.839 sees something odd, so his son's facing him, going there 116 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:17.439 was three different spades that James was using, so his 117 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.879 son was like this one doing this number, and James 118 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:23.120 isn't answering him. He's looking at him but looking past him. 119 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.279 His son was holding the rifle. It was slung over 120 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.600 his shoulder. James was doing his thing with the metal detector, 121 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.839 so they're like okay. James was mentally going, okay, how 122 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:35.759 do I approach this. I don't know what that is 123 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.240 behind him. I don't want to scare him, but he 124 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:40.160 needs to know, and he calls him over. He goes, 125 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.759 bring that one, just bring that one to get him 126 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.319 to come to him without startling him about what was 127 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:49.079 behind him, because at that point James did not know. 128 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:52.639 All he saw was something odd. He knew it didn't fit. 129 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.759 He said, it was like a reddish brown color, almost 130 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.519 like a Saint Bernard. So he gets his boy to 131 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.839 come over to him and he says, hey, unsling that rifle. 132 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.480 Unsling's a seven millimeter magnum, hands it to him. He goes, oh, 133 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.680 is there a bear? His son starts looking off behind James. 134 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.079 So this thing's behind his boy, and his boy's looking 135 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.399 up and down and looking around for bear. Sign hens 136 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.680 James the rifle. James immediately starts yelling get back. His 137 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.639 son's thrown off because up to this point, his boy 138 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.199 just handed him his rifle, and all of a sudden, 139 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.399 James is yelling at the river bank. So his son 140 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:29.959 was like, what's wrong with you? What's going on? His 141 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.399 son is freaked out because now his dad's yelling. He's 142 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:35.079 trying to figure out why is my dad yelling. James 143 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.639 is looking back and he said once his son turned 144 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.879 around and was on his shoulder asking him, and he 145 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.439 James is pointing at this thing, and this thing was 146 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:48.800 just ten feet behind his son, roughly barely obscured. Initially, 147 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.959 once his son moved, he got a bitter look at it. 148 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.519 He could see the eyes looking at him from the 149 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.399 glint from the daylight. He said, the face was really 150 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:01.199 obscured in shadow. But then it stood up up, he said. 151 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.600 When it stood up, his son fell back in the water, startled, 152 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.600 and was trying to run into the brush the other way. 153 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.199 James took a couple steps back and told him stop running. 154 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.639 Stop running. His son's soaking wet, the water's cold as shit. 155 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.560 His son's halfway in the brush on the opposite side 156 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.000 of this little creek, and his son is freaking out 157 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.319 because this thing's standing there looking at him. And James's 158 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.560 point in the rifle at this thing. He said it 159 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:29.680 did not care, or maybe it didn't realize it had 160 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:31.920 a deadly weapon point at that, because it just looked 161 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.639 at him strange. He said. There was no overt signs 162 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.799 of aggression. It was just standing there looking at them, 163 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:40.399 and he started talking to hey, you need to leave, 164 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:42.559 you need to get out of here. You're gonna get shot. 165 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:45.759 He said, Initially he didn't understand what was happening. Then 166 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:47.919 when it stood up and he saw its features, he 167 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.080 understood immediately, Okay, that's a sasquatch, that's a harry Man 168 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.960 again freaked out. He didn't know what to do. He 169 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:59.240 was shaking, he was trying to collect his thoughts on 170 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:01.879 what to do. Is now this thing is literally on 171 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.240 their little trail that they had made cutting back up 172 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:06.320 in there. He doesn't want to be there. His son's 173 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:08.840 already trying to scramble across the creek. You know what 174 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.879 I mean. He keeps telling the son, stay still, stay still. 175 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.320 His son tells him, it's staring at me. Make it 176 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.000 stop staring at me. It's scaring me. This is all chaotic, 177 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.039 This is all happening like real fast. James takes liberty 178 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.559 of putting in the rifle down to the bank and 179 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.360 fires a shot. Once he fires a shot, this thing 180 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.399 takes off like a bolt back the direction they just 181 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.759 came up. James said that he never felt so dumb 182 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.200 in his life because he just scared this thing in 183 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:42.600 the direction of his wife, who's all by herself. Immediately, 184 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.679 he puts the rifle up and fires off two more 185 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.679 shots real quick, because they had a universal three shot. 186 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.279 There's an emergency. There's a bear. Nothing about the hearing man, 187 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.600 but still, they already always had it planned out. If 188 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.360 you hear three shots, be prepared to something dangerous in 189 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.200 the area. So thankfully they had that lined out between 190 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:04.320 them before they left camp. So he immediately lets off 191 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:08.240 the next two shots. In return off in the distance, 192 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:12.639 he hears a single shot of recognition from his wife saying, okay, 193 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.639 I'm armed. I heard you, so be it. So immediately 194 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.639 they gather up their stuff. He leaves their stuff on 195 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.840 the bank because they want to move faster right, So 196 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.759 he gets the son behind him, tells him you stay close, 197 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.200 hold on to my jacket. I don't want you out 198 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:30.440 of my sight. I don't want you any farther than 199 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.320 right behind me. So him and his son go back 200 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.360 and it's not easy going. They got to do the 201 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.279 same thing and reverse walking along the creek, then jump 202 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.120 back up on the bank, cutting through the brush and 203 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.840 all that stuff. It was not a skip down the trail. 204 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.519 It wasn't like that. They get back to the area 205 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.960 where they were camping, and they don't see his wife. 206 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.639 James is panics tricken, and their son is yelling out mom. 207 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.720 What had happened is from Karen's point of view, she 208 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:02.120 hears the three shots. She said she almost didn't take 209 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.600 it serious because the one shot was muffled, then the 210 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:07.039 two were loud, but there were still three, so she 211 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.759 just went with that, she said, as she was looking 212 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:14.360 back up the canyon, trying to see what's going on, 213 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:17.480 maybe here yelling, screaming or whatever, because again, they're about 214 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.519 a little over half mile up in there, which in 215 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:23.639 the big scheme of things, ain't all that far unless 216 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.200 it's in the kind of train they were in now, 217 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.759 she said. After she was listening, she heard brush moving 218 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.200 hard like crack, a lot of noise, and she knew 219 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.240 ain't no way her husband or her son was making 220 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.759 that noise. So what she did was backed down by 221 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:44.759 the river bank partial cut bank where they were at, 222 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:48.039 which was about forty feet from their camp. She backed 223 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.399 up and down by the river proper and was using 224 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:55.519 the bank as a rifle support for her rifle. She 225 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:57.639 had a three hundred wind meg. She was just sitting 226 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:00.120 there with the rifle, just waiting for whatever's making and 227 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:02.919 all this noise. The wind was in her favor because 228 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:04.919 it was blowing right down into her face. She said, 229 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.919 this think came out of the trees. Was looking around, 230 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:12.759 sniffing at the ground, looked at all their stuff. She said. 231 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.200 It was not rifling through, but moving stuff a little bit, 232 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.399 just looking at this and that, just checking out the scene. 233 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.639 And it came across where she was cooking. She had 234 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.639 a little tripod, just boiling up some hot water for 235 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.639 tea or whatever else, maybe some ra no noodle soup. 236 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.480 There was nothing in that pot. But over on their 237 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:35.320 little cookstove she had some I think it was like 238 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:38.000 chili mac or something like that going for them, just 239 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.120 ready to go. When they got back they could warm 240 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.960 it up a little bit and eat or whatever. She said, 241 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:47.080 it ignored the chili mac and was fascinated by this 242 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:51.440 pot of water over the fire. Said it walked back 243 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:53.559 and forth a couple times, was sniff in the air, 244 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:57.000 grabbed a stick. This whole time she only saw it briefly, 245 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:00.159 facing towards her. She said. The face was black, the 246 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:04.399 eyes were beady, real big. She had no real guestimate 247 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:07.919 on overall height. She had no clue. According to what 248 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.399 James said, when it stood up behind this boy on 249 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:13.200 the bank. He couldn't say for sure because it was 250 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.600 on elevated ground, but it had to have been at 251 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:19.039 least eight foot tall at least, and his perspective was 252 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.080 off because he had the low ground right. So she 253 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.799 watches this thinge grab a stick and goes over and 254 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.399 is poking into the water with this stick, and she's 255 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.799 just the whole time she's keeping that rifle on it. 256 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:34.480 Karen said that when the thing realized it was being watched, 257 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.279 it stood straight. She saw the hair along its back 258 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:40.600 rays up right what was usually the watchers now being watched, 259 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:42.679 and it sensed it. She said, it turned around and 260 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.960 looked right in her eye, like there was no where 261 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.639 is this person looking at me. It turned and looked 262 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:50.879 her dead in the eye, right off the bat she's 263 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:53.759 holding that gun. She said, it just looked at her, 264 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:57.399 kind of curious. It turned around headed down river. She 265 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:02.759 said about twenty minutes she stayed there. She was just 266 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.279 in her hiking boots. She was up to her knees 267 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:08.799 in this river water on this cutbank, getting cold. But 268 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.519 she wasn't coming out of the water. So when James 269 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.519 gets back and he's looking around panic and then she 270 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:17.679 shows herself and comes out and they're all just standing there. 271 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.759 She said that they were dumb bounded. They did not 272 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:25.480 know what to do. She said, they gathered up their 273 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:29.759 stuff and they gingerly took their time, found the spot 274 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.840 and got to the other side of the river, which 275 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.720 she said that they got wet because of the rushing 276 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.559 water and stuff, but they felt safer across the river 277 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.000 from this thing because it took off in the direction 278 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.600 of their back trail from when they came up. James said, 279 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:47.919 when they were on the other side, they had reached 280 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.200 a point where it was real arduous trying to get through. 281 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.320 They were starting to run into some devil's club and 282 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.639 other stuff that was making it real hard to get through. 283 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.279 They were right near the river edge, he said. As 284 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.080 they were standing there. He said it was approximately maybe 285 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.600 a mile from their original camp, because they came down 286 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.279 about a quarter mile, found a space to cross, and 287 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.639 they got one about another three quarters of a mile 288 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:12.320 roughly give or take. They were at this impasse. They 289 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.360 couldn't really go forward without a whole lot of chopp 290 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.360 and crap to do. By the way, they only took 291 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.279 what they needed. They left the other stuff right there 292 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.519 on the river bank. It was retrieved much later. They're 293 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.720 at an impass. They're right there at the river bank, 294 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.360 so James says, We're going to have to go back 295 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.639 across where we crossed and then go down the trail 296 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.080 and just be ready and. 297 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:36.440 Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be 298 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:38.279 right back. After these messages. 299 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.559 They make their way back up to the crossing point. 300 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.919 This thing is standing in the brush across the river 301 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.840 from where they crossed, just looking at them. James said, 302 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:55.759 it showed no sign of aggression. It was just doing 303 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:59.120 its head like this. They got low and then all 304 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.480 they heard was thrash. It took off back towards the 305 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.279 direction of their camp, and they stood their shot listening 306 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:07.840 to this thing move away at a very fast rate. 307 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:12.120 They said about ten minutes they sat there. Then they 308 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.679 heard this thing scream and it sounded like it was 309 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:16.840 coming back up one of those finger valleys that he 310 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:18.679 was either the one he was in or the one 311 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:21.440 next to it. Once they heard the scream, they knew 312 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.440 it was X amount of distance away, and they felt 313 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:27.879 comfortable crossing back and getting out of there. I want 314 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.399 to thank Karen for sharing her perspective. I had to 315 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.360 be very patient with her, not that she wasn't forthcoming. 316 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.200 It was hard for her because every time she relives it. 317 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:40.320 She gets racked with emotion because in her mind, she 318 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.600 was telling me that when she heard this thing thrashing 319 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.679 back towards camp, and she knew it wasn't her husband 320 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:50.279 or her son. The three shots. Initially, she didn't know 321 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.840 if that was a warning or that's the only three 322 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.799 shots they got and they're no longer with this kind 323 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:59.080 of thing. She wasn't sure if they were killed or whatever. 324 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.720 That twenty ish minute gap from it looking at her 325 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.039 and leaving, she was terrified that her family was gone. 326 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.440 So Kerr retelling me, it brings up that emotion and 327 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.480 thankfully it appeared to be curious, which there's no expert 328 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:15.920 out there to tell us what their intentions were or anything. 329 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:20.240 But in all honesty, even James said it didn't show 330 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:24.119 any adverse anger or aggression. It wasn't like I'm gonna 331 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:27.240 get you. It was nothing like that. He did mention 332 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:31.200 that since that time, and this is roughly a decade ago, 333 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:34.039 he said, since that time, there's been a couple other 334 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.480 experiences that he has had up on the Golcana and 335 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.519 over by Tri Lakes, which south of the d Nali Highway, 336 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.319 that I've got a bunch of encounters from that area. 337 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.559 So I want to thank James. I'm going to thank Karen. 338 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:48.960 I did not talk to their son. He's no longer 339 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.799 in the state. He's living outside of Alaska. I don't 340 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:54.039 think it's because of this incident. I think it's work 341 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.720 related or whatever. But I'm going to thank them for 342 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.599 reaching out, and thank you Karen for being willing to share, 343 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.160 because obviously it was really difficult for you. What I 344 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.079 wanted to share with you today comes from a couple 345 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.839 of gentlemen. They wanted to remain anonymous, so I'll just 346 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:14.240 call them the sightseers, the tourists. These two gentlemen, they 347 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:18.119 had a friend of theirs out of Juno b. Lowan 348 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.559 on a boat. What they did is they spent a 349 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.359 week traveling around June to all the different fjords, all 350 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:29.079 the different glaciers, and they ended up over by Bell 351 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.720 Island Hot Springs, which is an abandoned resort down in 352 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:38.720 southeast Alaska. When they were pulling into the bay there, 353 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.319 there was a couple of kayakers on their way out, 354 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:44.880 wave high all that nicey, nice stuff. One of the 355 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.839 kayakers said, sound like the ladies screaming over there. But 356 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.880 we couldn't see anything, and the people continued on. This 357 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.400 was late summer land of the midnight sun. However, once 358 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.680 you get past June twenty first, you start losing daylight incrementally. 359 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:04.200 By mid July, let's say you're getting five hours of 360 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.000 darkness at night, something like that. This was after ten 361 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.319 pm when they came into this little harbor, this little 362 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.559 bay where this abandoned resort is. According to what List 363 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:18.240 is calling Michael, because he's the one that reached out, 364 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.279 so we'll just call one other gentlemen, Michael. He said 365 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.119 that they decided, because it was a nice quiet harbor, 366 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.279 they were going to anchor out. They did so, and 367 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.880 they were enjoying a couple of cold Bruis sitting on 368 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.279 this boat. As the tide was moving in and out, 369 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.200 they would swing around and they were just in their 370 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.640 own little world, enjoying it. He said. Just as it 371 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:43.079 was getting on into almost dark, that's when they heard 372 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.839 a scream, and he said it was loud, it was piercing, 373 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.920 it hurt their ears. He estimated it was within three 374 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:54.640 hundred yards of where they were behind the resort, from 375 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.160 where they were out in the bay, somewhere up on 376 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:01.039 this hillside. Now they didn't know. They're like, okay, they 377 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:03.519 yell out, hey, if you need help, say something, but 378 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:06.799 dead quiet, not a noise. They heard a couple of 379 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.200 floatplanes off in the distance over this course of time, 380 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.599 but no one was immediately around them. They did pass 381 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.599 a couple people further on out that were camping out 382 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.160 towards the point or something along those lines. I tried 383 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.480 to look it up, but which point. There's so many 384 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:24.559 different little spits and stuff. But anyway, they were the 385 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:27.480 only two there, is my point. So as they were 386 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:32.319 sitting there, the stern happened to be facing the resort. 387 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:35.839 They had an open view, and it's getting dark. The 388 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:39.480 scream happens, and from what Michael said, something changed in 389 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:43.359 the air. It went from jovial, enjoying a cold beer 390 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.000 with your buddy, to all of a sudden, something felt ominous. 391 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:50.359 And then they heard another shorter scream. Then they saw 392 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:52.960 a movement, but they saw it right at the tree 393 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.680 line behind this place, and they could not make out 394 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:57.640 what it was, but he said it was dark. Whatever 395 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:01.079 it was, it was dark because they had really been 396 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:06.160 able to pinpoint for what this thing was moving. He said, 397 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:09.200 they sat there and watched this thing and it went 398 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.920 on along right along the tree line and out of sight, 399 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.200 and they said, well, that was really weird. He said, 400 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.559 it looked like it was walking on two feet initially, 401 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:21.200