Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M. Six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app. So did you hear about
Speaker 1: the couple in Altadena who was preparing to sell their
Speaker 1: home in Alta Dina moving into another home in Altadena
Speaker 1: lost both homes. So past, present, future all gone. You know,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like when you're moving into a
Speaker 1: new home. You've got pretty much your all your money
Speaker 1: tied up into those two homes, right and it's all
Speaker 1: it's all wiped out, all of it gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's there's very We will have good stories,
Speaker 2: we will have.
Speaker 3: Fun stories.
Speaker 2: At some point, we will have heroic stories, some of
Speaker 2: which we've.
Speaker 3: Seen a few.
Speaker 2: But to be honest, I mean that just there's not
Speaker 2: a whole lot that's going in the right direction other
Speaker 2: than the wind starting to die down. But I mean
Speaker 2: we're still seeing very active flames along the Palisades fire
Speaker 2: up near East Topanga Fire Road and things like that,
Speaker 2: where even though the wind is not as aggressive obviously
Speaker 2: it has been in the last forty eight to seventy
Speaker 2: two hours, it is still blowing. Red flag warning is
Speaker 2: still in effect. It will stay in effect until at
Speaker 2: least six o'clock tonight, and then there's a good chance
Speaker 2: that it just comes back. That's the other thing is
Speaker 2: that we could see winds kick up again on Sunday,
Speaker 2: and we might have to see some red flag warnings
Speaker 2: come back in Monday and Tuesday of next week. So,
Speaker 2: and we mentioned yesterday in terms of the losses, the
Speaker 2: loss of life is going to be great. I think
Speaker 2: the death toll has put at ten right now according
Speaker 2: to the La County Medical Examiner's Office, but the insured
Speaker 2: losses could exceed twenty billion. Of JP Morgan, analyst, wrote
Speaker 2: in a research note that he expects the total economic
Speaker 2: loss at about fifty billion. ACU weather we mentioned yesterday
Speaker 2: put it higher than that, at about one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty billion. Either way, if you compare that to the
Speaker 2: estimate for all of the wildfires in the United States
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, all of them was about one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty billion dollars, and this is two really large fires.
Speaker 3: I know that there have been a bunch of others.
Speaker 2: There have been even a few that are a few
Speaker 2: hundred acres, but those have not had anywhere near the
Speaker 2: amount of damage that we've seen from the Eaten fire
Speaker 2: and the Palisades fires.
Speaker 1: Well, and you got to talk about all the other
Speaker 1: fires that keep popping up. I mean talk about anxiety.
Speaker 1: You know, usually when we cover these fire events, these
Speaker 1: wind events, we get one big fire. This time we
Speaker 1: had two big fires, and then it seemed like every
Speaker 1: no neighborhood was safe. You know, you saw the Hollywood
Speaker 1: Hills fire pop up on Wednesday and then West Hills yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's like no one is safe. Everyone is on edge
Speaker 1: in La everywhere because of what's going on. So the
Speaker 1: news that the wind event is dying down today greatly appreciated.
Speaker 1: To make matters worse, people who were not even in
Speaker 1: danger were getting evacuation alerts.
Speaker 4: Yes I got.
Speaker 2: I got all of them. I got every single one
Speaker 2: of them. And it's funny, because funny's not the right word.
Speaker 2: It's it's strange because I got the alert the four
Speaker 2: o'clock yesterday afternoon, and I happened to be out of
Speaker 2: park at that time, which is kind of on the
Speaker 2: top of a hill, and I can look around almost
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty degrees from my neighborhood and I
Speaker 2: can't see smoke. I can't even see smoke from the
Speaker 2: Hurst fire, which was the closest one to me. I
Speaker 2: couldn't see anything, So I thought to myself, well, you
Speaker 2: know what, I must have put in the wrong zone
Speaker 2: or my phone thinks I'm in an area that I'm
Speaker 2: not actually in. And then a few minutes later we
Speaker 2: get the news that, oh, sorry, it was a mistake.
Speaker 2: And then guess what, twelve hours later, at four o'clock
Speaker 2: this morning, another alert goes out. Now again, I'm warm
Speaker 2: and safe and comfortable and lucky. I have a bed
Speaker 2: that I'm sleeping in, and I get up and see
Speaker 2: this thing, and my heart starts racing because it's the
Speaker 2: middle of the night. I see it. It's the same
Speaker 2: exact verbiage that it was twelve hours before that, and
Speaker 2: I think to myself, you know what, I'll bet you
Speaker 2: this is another false alarm. I go to the maps,
Speaker 2: I go to watch duty, I go to the Genesis
Speaker 2: protect A. I go everywhere I can to find information,
Speaker 2: and there's not a peep about it there being a
Speaker 2: fire anywhere near me.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I've got a bunch of sound.
Speaker 2: The guy who is running the Office of Emergency Management,
Speaker 2: his name is Kevin McGowan, the director. This guy has
Speaker 2: given the absolute worst answers to the questions of what
Speaker 2: the f is going on and what are you going
Speaker 2: to do about it?
Speaker 3: I mean you could.
Speaker 2: Tell his boss's boss is in the form of Lindsey
Speaker 2: Horvath and Catherine Barger, supervisors on the county board. They're
Speaker 2: clearly looking for this guy's head because they know that
Speaker 2: this is completely unacceptable. I mean, you talk about the
Speaker 2: unacceptability of looters. Yeah, everybody knows that. We all get
Speaker 2: that start shooting people on the legs or something. I
Speaker 2: don't care, but this is one of those things where
Speaker 2: you're now you're now playing pretty fast and loose with
Speaker 2: people's nerves. And after four days of this, after three
Speaker 2: or four days of people constantly throughout the county, throughout
Speaker 2: southern California in general, being on edge, and you can't
Speaker 2: figure out how to stop a county wide alert from
Speaker 2: going out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really costs me.
Speaker 1: Of when everyone on Hawaii got the alert that there
Speaker 1: were what missiles coming in or something right now for
Speaker 1: North Korea. Yeah, I mean, holy hell, that's stuff that
Speaker 1: will kill people, Like, give you a heart attack and
Speaker 1: you will die. You've got to figure out how to
Speaker 1: get the I mean, the incompetence has become rampant. Usually
Speaker 1: when I was listening to John yesterday, was that just yesterday?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know all the days right right,
Speaker 1: they just kind of blend together. But you know, usually
Speaker 1: it's a story that we'd be talking about after the
Speaker 1: fires are.
Speaker 4: Out, maybe next week, maybe the week after.
Speaker 1: But it's just so maddening not to just get right
Speaker 1: to the point of how the hell some of this
Speaker 1: stuff could happen in a place like Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: This isn't Haiti, this isn't a.
Speaker 1: Third world country where there is just rampant disorganization and corruption.
Speaker 1: Oh wait there is, and oh wait, the emperor has
Speaker 1: no clothes, we are inept, we are out of water,
Speaker 1: we don't have emergency alerts that work correctly, and we're
Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: That's a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was super frustrating to listen to the explanations or
Speaker 2: the obfuscation or I mean, even on Twitter. There was
Speaker 2: a video going around of a mom confronting Governor Newsom
Speaker 2: yesterday in the Palisades and trying to get him to
Speaker 2: explain to her what's going on, and First of all,
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the highway patrol didn't tackle this woman
Speaker 2: because she came at him pretty aggressively, but then said
Speaker 2: I'm not going to hurt him or anything. And his
Speaker 2: lame excuse of I can't talk now I'm on the
Speaker 2: phone with the president. Oh really, can I talk to him? Well,
Speaker 2: I'm not actually on the phone with the president. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to call the president. Okay, can I stay here
Speaker 2: and listen because I'm trying. I'd love to know what
Speaker 2: you guys are planning. Well, I'm actually not calling. I
Speaker 2: mean I'm trying to find sell service so I can
Speaker 2: call the president of the guy audience.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we can play when we'll come back.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a whole stuff, a whole show.
Speaker 2: How's Houston.
Speaker 4: I can breathe here and there's rain? What I know?
Speaker 4: Can you bring that home with you?
Speaker 1: I know we were landing last night and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's rain, guys, it's raining here, and everyone's looking at
Speaker 1: me like I'm insane, just because we've spent all week
Speaker 1: talking about how we haven't had rain for eight months
Speaker 1: and how it's led to some of the issues that
Speaker 1: we're having. And again, you know, as we you know,
Speaker 1: go after people and rail against them, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of this that we could not fight against. When
Speaker 1: you look at the wind event and the mountain waves
Speaker 1: and the recipe for disaster, you were just not going
Speaker 1: to combat this, you know, And that's part of it.
Speaker 1: But there's also just glaring ineptitude that comes along with it.
Speaker 4: This could not have been avoided.
Speaker 1: Most of the destruction could not have been avoided, but
Speaker 1: it certainly could have been handled better and there could
Speaker 1: have been some mitigation.
Speaker 3: We'll talk all about it.
Speaker 2: We also have a good news because of the Dream
Speaker 2: Center Los Angeles and our company iHeartMedia La stepping up
Speaker 2: to try to bring some relief to those people who
Speaker 2: have been affected by the firefighters, sorry, by the fires
Speaker 2: that are sweeping across La County. So Dream Center is
Speaker 2: helping team up with us to do all kinds of
Speaker 2: things donating food and hygiene products and clothing and blankets
Speaker 2: and air purifiers and all the stuff that's going to
Speaker 2: be necessary. You can go to Dreamcenter dot org slash
Speaker 2: donate to give financially. You can learn about all of
Speaker 2: the drop off locations that are going to be available, but.
Speaker 3: We'll tell you more about that as we go through
Speaker 3: the show today.
Speaker 1: The stories, by the way, that are coming out of
Speaker 1: the ashes, for lack of a better term, not to
Speaker 1: sound like I'm in a poetry session, but they are wow, heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: like the amputee, Yeah, the great grandfather of ten who
Speaker 1: was killed in the Eton fire. We're just hearing about
Speaker 1: more about the families and the stories. You know, say
Speaker 1: what you will about celebrities, but Paris Hilton's account of
Speaker 1: the destruction of her home really cut through all the
Speaker 1: hyperbole and all the bologne and really got into it
Speaker 1: in terms of specific memories of specific rooms, of specific
Speaker 1: children and what they were doing in each room as
Speaker 1: she was walking through what's left of the house just
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a quarter of the framing remains.
Speaker 3: And remember, I mean we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 2: For she gets a platform because of who she is,
Speaker 2: and she's recognizable, and the stories that she's telling very personal.
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess you'd say normal stories are
Speaker 2: echoed a thousand times.
Speaker 3: For every Paris Hilton, there's a thousand.
Speaker 2: Other people who who have stories just like that, and
Speaker 2: right it's it's it's a it's heart wrenching to see that, and.
Speaker 1: It's you know, they do have the money right to
Speaker 1: be on their feet and to rebuild, and they're not
Speaker 1: going to struggle the way people maybe in Alta Dina
Speaker 1: are going to struggle in terms of rubbing nickels together
Speaker 1: to figure out how they're going to get by and
Speaker 1: how they're going where they're going to live. Is it
Speaker 1: going to be a rental How is the rental market?
Speaker 1: Is it even isn't even doable right now in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles to rent while your home's being rebuilt, And where
Speaker 1: does that money come from? And all of that, But
Speaker 1: at the core level of what you're losing, what was
Speaker 1: gone in terms of the memories of the home and
Speaker 1: where your kids were raised, that's all the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this woman who confronted Governor
Speaker 2: k Newsom yesterday as he was making his way through
Speaker 2: the palisades, and I have the audio for you. I
Speaker 2: Karen Oh, I mean no, that's a response to It'll
Speaker 2: get to that here in a second.
Speaker 4: But this is Governor. You got a second.
Speaker 3: She's running up to the suv that is about to
Speaker 3: get in ear I live here, Governor.
Speaker 1: That was my daughter's school Governor, Please.
Speaker 3: Tell me are you going to do?
Speaker 4: I'm can I heard of my promise.
Speaker 5: I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically
Speaker 5: answer the question of what we can do.
Speaker 6: For you and your daughter?
Speaker 3: Can I hear it? Can I hear your call?
Speaker 5: Because I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, there's literally I've tried five times. That's why
Speaker 3: I'm walking around.
Speaker 7: To make is the President taking your call?
Speaker 3: Because it's not going through?
Speaker 5: Why I have to get cell service?
Speaker 7: Let's get it, Let's get it. I want to be
Speaker 7: here when you call the President.
Speaker 5: She's a lot right now, and it's to immediately get reimbursements,
Speaker 5: individual assistance and to help you. Devis looking for you.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, especially for your daughter.
Speaker 3: I have four kids.
Speaker 4: Everyone who went to school there.
Speaker 8: They lost their homes.
Speaker 7: They lost two homes because they were living in one
Speaker 7: and building another. Can please tell me tell me what
Speaker 7: are you going to do with the president?
Speaker 2: Right now, we're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild.
Speaker 3: Is there no water in the hydrants?
Speaker 5: Governor?
Speaker 3: It's all literally is it going to be different next time? Okay?
Speaker 1: What are you going?
Speaker 4: I wish this was real.
Speaker 3: I would fill him up well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like an actress on that was
Speaker 1: over the top. He did not seem like a real person.
Speaker 1: She actually made him seem like a real person, which
Speaker 1: is hard to do.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 2: She had every right to do that, I think, but
Speaker 2: he handled it, I guess as well as he stayed calm.
Speaker 2: He said, listen, I'll figure out what we can do.
Speaker 2: And I mean he used all the normal politician platitudes
Speaker 2: if we're going to rebuild, and of course it has
Speaker 2: to be different, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But I almost feel like that was planted by him
Speaker 4: and his.
Speaker 3: People to make him look good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a comment that we got.
Speaker 7: I Karen, Oh, I mean Gary, so sorry to both
Speaker 7: you and that annoying woman who accosted the governor yesterday.
Speaker 7: But I'm so sorry. The governor is not your personal
Speaker 7: manager of like Coles that you can yell at about
Speaker 7: your coals cash. All right, So, Karen, I mean Gary,
Speaker 7: get it together. You don't get to walk up to
Speaker 7: the governor and yell and scream just because you one
Speaker 7: selfish person isn't getting what they want or need.
Speaker 2: Just to clarify, that's not one selfish person who's not
Speaker 2: getting what she wants. You're talking about probably somewhere ten
Speaker 2: to fifteen thousand people who lost their homes, so somewhere
Speaker 2: in that and I mean that's just the people who
Speaker 2: lost their homes. You're not even talking about people who
Speaker 2: lost their businesses or people who's now are going to
Speaker 2: have to find a different place to work, or I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not just that this woman has every right to
Speaker 2: walk up to the governor of the state that she
Speaker 2: lives in and ask questions about what happened and how
Speaker 2: do we prevent it in the future. He's not going
Speaker 2: to have the answers necessarily, but she has every right
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 1: You can't compare burn down homes and lives burned down
Speaker 1: to Cole's cash. I don't think that that person was
Speaker 1: indicative of people listening right now. I will say I
Speaker 1: wish that that person was a real person that confronted
Speaker 1: the governor. She was over the top, She didn't sound real,
Speaker 1: but the sentiment was real. I think everyone has that sentiment.
Speaker 1: Is it his fault of out everything that happened. No,
Speaker 1: but you're the governor, you're the face of the state.
Speaker 1: If you get to take the victory lap. When things
Speaker 1: go well, you get to take the heat when things don't.
Speaker 1: I do feel like there should be more heat put
Speaker 1: on Karen Bass locally because of the cut to the
Speaker 1: fire department, because of the fact that we knew this
Speaker 1: forecast was happening and that it looked bad from go
Speaker 1: I think that those are all things that are valid
Speaker 1: right now. If you want to go after the governor
Speaker 1: for protecting the baby smelt and not sending the water
Speaker 1: down from northern California, that's one thing. But going after
Speaker 1: him for stuff that isn't in his purview maybe not fair.
Speaker 1: Albeit totally game. It's fair game. It's just probably not
Speaker 1: something that he can answer. He just doesn't have those answers.
Speaker 2: When we come back still air quality issues, we'll be
Speaker 2: talking with a pulmonologist with Keck Medicine about what we
Speaker 2: can do to keep ourselves protected, and then we'll get
Speaker 2: into this whole issue of false alarms that have been
Speaker 2: plaguing people's phones about potential evacuations because of these fires.
Speaker 2: Quick set the scene for the latest information on the
Speaker 2: Palisades Fire and the Eaten Fire. The Palisades Fire now
Speaker 2: burned twenty four hundred and thirty eight acres eight percent contained.
Speaker 2: They said more than five hundred structures. CalFire specifically says
Speaker 2: fifty three hundred structures either damaged or destroyed by the
Speaker 2: Palisades Fire. The Eaten Fire out in the Altadena Pasadena
Speaker 2: area is about thirteen thou nine hundred fifty six acres.
Speaker 2: They pegged their containment there at three percent, but also
Speaker 2: another four to five thousand structures that were damaged or destroyed.
Speaker 2: We will have more air tankers and helicopters in the
Speaker 2: air today. In fact, two large air tankers and two
Speaker 2: very large air tankers assigned to the Palisades Fire, and
Speaker 2: they have ordered a fifth tanker. Helicopters have been working
Speaker 2: right now on the west side of the Palisadesire.
Speaker 1: Whoever was flying a drone that ran into a Super
Speaker 1: Scooper should be shot by an execution squad.
Speaker 3: You could. I don't even think shot would be nice enough.
Speaker 1: I think no, I mean, like not fatal shots initially,
Speaker 1: you know, flesh wounds, gray's wounds, things that'll make you suffer,
Speaker 1: and then go for.
Speaker 4: The kill shot.
Speaker 3: You just let it, let them bleed out.
Speaker 4: Is that too much?
Speaker 3: It might be a little much, But.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court has asked tough questions to the lawyer
Speaker 1: representing TikTok over a law that would force the sale
Speaker 1: or ban of TikTok by January nineteenth. In the US,
Speaker 1: TikTok is citing our free speech safeguards despite the fact
Speaker 1: that it is from China, which has none of that.
Speaker 1: The Biden administration defends the law. Trump opposes the ban.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Trump, he was in appeared virtually in a
Speaker 2: courtroom today in New York. He is officially a felon
Speaker 2: in that business records case.
Speaker 3: He was hit with.
Speaker 2: A sentence of unconditional discharge. Sounds awful. It means nothing.
Speaker 2: It means nothing in that there's no jail time, there's
Speaker 2: no real probation, there's no punishment or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So that stuff that's going on outside of our worlds.
Speaker 1: You see that Notre Dame Penn State game last night,
Speaker 1: the very end of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the fourth quarter. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1: It was tied up when we were on the buses
Speaker 1: to the hotel, and then my brother's like, you gotta
Speaker 1: watch this game. You gotta watch this game, and so
Speaker 1: I turn it on when I get in and it
Speaker 1: was just like pick for pick for pick, a touchdown
Speaker 1: for touchdown, and I mean that was just what a
Speaker 1: wild finish to end on a pick and then that
Speaker 1: late field goal.
Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: So the Notre Dame Fighting Irish will play the winner
Speaker 2: of tonight's Cotton Bowl game between Texas and Ohio State
Speaker 2: in Dallas. Well, we've got in some places, especially along
Speaker 2: the Palisades Malibu coastline, there even some sections of Catalina Island,
Speaker 2: we've seen some very hazardous, very unhealthy and unhealthy ratings
Speaker 2: when it comes to common air pollutants in particulate matters
Speaker 2: as well. Because of our fires, obviously, we wanted to
Speaker 2: get some words from experts from an expert, doctor Richard Castriota,
Speaker 2: pulmonologists with KEC Medicine of USC talking about the issues
Speaker 2: that come up with this and doctor thanks for taking
Speaker 2: time for us today.
Speaker 5: Good morning.
Speaker 3: What do you suggest for people?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they're going to people in the fire
Speaker 2: areas that are going to be regardless of how healthy
Speaker 2: they are, affected by the smoke and the particulates. But
Speaker 2: for people in general La County, what should we do
Speaker 2: to uh to kind of protect ourselves from this bad
Speaker 2: air quality.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that for everybody, we would suggest to
Speaker 5: stay in if you can. If you must go out,
Speaker 5: and nine five masks would be helpful. Don't do any
Speaker 5: real physical exertion.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, while good physical activity like jogging and running
Speaker 5: might be healthy in some other circumstances, under these circumstances,
Speaker 5: you're just going to be forcing more toxic particles into
Speaker 5: your mungs. So no running and jogging. If you're driving,
Speaker 5: put the circulation system down recirculation system button on the car.
Speaker 5: Most cars will have this. They're designed to keep from
Speaker 5: getting carbon monoxide lady tunnel air in when you're going
Speaker 5: through tunnels and things, but it basically recirculates the air
Speaker 5: and the car, so you're not getting the toxic smoke
Speaker 5: in from the outside when you're driving around. If you
Speaker 5: can at all stay in, it's better to stay in.
Speaker 5: Run the air conditioner if you If you have people
Speaker 5: in the home that are particularly susceptible, so there's people
Speaker 5: with asthma, CLPD, pulmonary fibrosses, heart disease, young very young children,
Speaker 5: pregnant ladies, then I would suggest getting a HEPA filter.
Speaker 5: Some with filters labeled MERV thirteen or higher to run
Speaker 5: and try to keep your home safe. And this advice
Speaker 5: is sort of increases the closer that you'll get to
Speaker 5: the fire zones, palsades and eaten fires, and the stronger
Speaker 5: your exposure, this stronger the recommendation would be from us
Speaker 5: to limit your outdoor activity and protect your home with
Speaker 5: recirculating sapper filters and your car as well.
Speaker 1: It's a good call about the air conditioning, something you
Speaker 1: would think of because it is cold, and especially you know,
Speaker 1: I was evacuated from my home, so it is ice
Speaker 1: cold in there right now because the heater.
Speaker 4: Hasn't been running. But it does smell a lot.
Speaker 1: You can't really get away from the smell of the
Speaker 1: smoke inside the home because it's coming in through the
Speaker 1: chimneys and whatnot. But great advice to kind of blow
Speaker 1: it out of there using the air conditioner at least
Speaker 1: for a period of time.
Speaker 5: Good. I hope you folks are all safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so far.
Speaker 2: I do have a question though, if you're in an
Speaker 2: area where I was seeing a lot of smoke in
Speaker 2: my neighborhood, but the last two days, last day and
Speaker 2: a half, I haven't seen any smoke. Is there something
Speaker 2: I need to kind of keep an eye on about myself.
Speaker 2: If I start coughing uncontrollaby, how would I know if
Speaker 2: I'm affected by these particulates that I don't necessarily smell
Speaker 2: or see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it often takes a couple of days before the
Speaker 5: full effects health effects of the smoke in relation to manifest.
Speaker 5: So the initial things are going to be cough and
Speaker 5: the eye irritation. Those are due to the larger particles
Speaker 5: and irritating the effort airways. The smaller two point five
Speaker 5: microns and and and and smaller are going to get
Speaker 5: down to the lower levels inside the lungs and impair
Speaker 5: your immune system. So sort of have to imagine that
Speaker 5: the lungs are the first, the first place of defense
Speaker 5: against everything and bring in acres and acres of air
Speaker 5: laden with all kinds of stuff every day, and our
Speaker 5: lungs are able to deal with that in a in
Speaker 5: a very efficient manner, preventing us from getting sick and
Speaker 5: getting infected. When we breathe in these toxic particles from
Speaker 5: the smoke, we overwhelm the immune system and impede that
Speaker 5: immune response. And so you're going to be more susceptible
Speaker 5: to all kinds of viruses and bacteria that ordinarily you're
Speaker 5: while you would be able to withstand. So you're you're
Speaker 5: you're going to have a lower level of assessment when
Speaker 5: you're saying, oh, gee, I got a cough, Maybe I
Speaker 5: should go and see somebody sooner. The clock is going
Speaker 5: to be normal just as part of the reaction to
Speaker 5: the smoke, but it also is coming in feature Amian response,
Speaker 5: and so you will be more susceptible to infections.
Speaker 2: All right, Doctor Richard Castriota, Palmonologist, KC Medicine, a USC.
Speaker 3: Thanks, we appreciate your time.
Speaker 5: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: We will be doing a quick pop in with Michael
Speaker 2: Monks from KFI News. He's out in the Palisades once
Speaker 2: again and ran into a couple of people who were hiking,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, hiking apparently hiking, yes, hiking during the fire
Speaker 2: and it's very La.
Speaker 3: It's just very southern California.
Speaker 1: Wait, they were hiking when the fire broke out, or
Speaker 1: hiking yesterday.
Speaker 2: We're going to find out from Okay, the death toll
Speaker 2: from these fires, the Palisade Fire and the Eating fire
Speaker 2: is at ten right now. We heard La County Sheriff
Speaker 2: Robert Luna said that the death toll is likely to rise.
Speaker 2: The death toll that we're getting is from the medical
Speaker 2: examiner who is investigating these ten fire related deaths. Apparently
Speaker 2: two of them from the Palisades fire that we know of,
Speaker 2: the rest of them from the fire over in Pasadena.
Speaker 1: Here is one of the stories behind that statistic.
Speaker 4: Sherry Shaw. She's sixty two years old. She's a graphic designer.
Speaker 1: She lives in Pasadena, and she saw the news and
Speaker 1: what was happening in Altadina. She knew her brother Victor
Speaker 1: lived in their family home there in Altadena, so she
Speaker 1: drives to the place seven thirty pm on Tuesday. This
Speaker 1: is when things were popping off. This is about when
Speaker 1: I got out of my house. So this was some
Speaker 1: things that we're getting out of control in Altadena and
Speaker 1: people were scrambling to get out of there anyway, seven
Speaker 1: thirty pm Tuesday, she goes to Victor's She tries to
Speaker 1: help them pack up some of the family's belongings. This
Speaker 1: is a home that the parents bought back in the
Speaker 1: sixties on Monterros to drive and her brother, Victor, she says,
Speaker 1: has been recently suffering from balance vision issues. He's got diabetes.
Speaker 1: She goes into the house seven thirty ish. She finds
Speaker 1: him watching the local TV news, getting upset, getting agitated,
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, as he sees a footage of
Speaker 1: the fires just in his neighborhood, essentially around his neighborhood.
Speaker 1: She says, she starts grabbing all the meds, the seizure
Speaker 1: meds that he's on that help him calm down, but
Speaker 1: he starts to feel groggy because of it, so he's
Speaker 1: starting to drift off to sleep. As she's kind of
Speaker 1: running around the house packing things up, parents' wedding pictures,
Speaker 1: things like that, documents, more medications like that, and he's
Speaker 1: growing deeper and deeper into sleep. She's loading up the suv.
Speaker 1: She sees the flames getting closer, and a home about
Speaker 1: a block away starts to catch fire, and she sees
Speaker 1: the ember start flying, so she runs inside and she
Speaker 1: tries to grab Victor off the couch.
Speaker 4: Hey, you got to get up. We got to get
Speaker 4: out of here. We got to get out of here
Speaker 4: right now, and he's just kind of not moving.
Speaker 1: He's dead weight, right, and he says, you know, let
Speaker 1: me just sit here for a couple of minutes, and
Speaker 1: she hops in her suv drives to the bottom of
Speaker 1: the street to find out a better idea of what's
Speaker 1: going on, to get help. She sees a police officer there.
Speaker 1: He's got his hands full. He says, don't go back
Speaker 1: up there, and she can. At that point, she looks
Speaker 1: and the fire had overcome, overcome the street, and can
Speaker 1: you imagine that moment.
Speaker 6: And I opened the front door and just yelled in Victor,
Speaker 6: we got to get out.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 8: We have to get out.
Speaker 4: The fire's here.
Speaker 3: And I didn't hear him say anything.
Speaker 4: I heard him say nothing.
Speaker 8: So I ran to the car and I just I
Speaker 8: just got out beside it to step in the debris
Speaker 8: and see if he can call his name, and maybe
Speaker 8: he's unconscious, maybe he's in a corner somewhere. And he
Speaker 8: turned around and he looked on the ground, and he
Speaker 8: was there. He was on the ground. I didn't want
Speaker 8: to look because I just didn't want to see my
Speaker 8: brother like that.
Speaker 6: We discovered he had a water hose in his hand,
Speaker 6: so we think that he might have tried to put
Speaker 6: the fire out, or tried to make a path to lead.
Speaker 8: To his truck, or maybe had dowst himself.
Speaker 4: She says, it plays in her head.
Speaker 1: Had she been able to go back stay five more minutes,
Speaker 1: would it have made a difference. I mean, that is
Speaker 1: the kind of life changing stuff, and I mean obviously
Speaker 1: not her fault. There's an impossible situation, but that is happening.
Speaker 1: That has happened time and time again in the past
Speaker 1: seventy two hours of people you gotta believe, trying to
Speaker 1: get family members out, realizing it was too late to
Speaker 1: get family members out that may not be completely mobile.
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2: The other one is this sixty seven year old guy,
Speaker 2: Anthony Mitchell, retired salesman, amputee, his son in his twenties, bedridden.
Speaker 2: They both died when the fire hit through Altadena, and
Speaker 2: there's no listen. There's an excitement. There's an adrenaline pump
Speaker 2: that comes when you start to talk about when it's happening.
Speaker 2: In the moment, you know, the images that we had
Speaker 2: of these embers blowing sixty seventy miles an hour through
Speaker 2: these neighborhoods and catching tree and house and car and
Speaker 2: everything on fire. There's a certain amount of I don't know,
Speaker 2: nervous excitement about what's going on. But as that fades
Speaker 2: and we are those you know, feelings of sort of
Speaker 2: this tingly excitement are replaced by this just thud, this
Speaker 2: weighted thudd of loss that these people are going to
Speaker 2: be going through. That, I mean, these entire neighborhoods are
Speaker 2: going to be going through. And in Altadena, it sounds
Speaker 2: like most of the deaths were kind of concentrated within
Speaker 2: a couple of blocks, so the stories don't get a
Speaker 2: whole lot better. I don't know if you heard Keana producer.
Speaker 2: Keana got yet another warning, another alert on her phone
Speaker 2: just a few minutes ago. So we'll talk with Michael
Speaker 2: Monks here in a few minutes. We'll also be talking
Speaker 2: about those false alerts that went out and what the
Speaker 2: county says they're going to be doing about.
Speaker 1: It, and how we're going to kill the person who
Speaker 1: flew the drone into the super scooper grounding it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Gary and Shannon will continue with our fire coverage right
Speaker 2: after this.
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