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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M. Six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app. So did you hear about

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<v Speaker 1>the couple in Altadena who was preparing to sell their

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<v Speaker 1>home in Alta Dina moving into another home in Altadena

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<v Speaker 1>lost both homes. So past, present, future all gone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's like when you're moving into a

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<v Speaker 1>new home. You've got pretty much your all your money

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<v Speaker 1>tied up into those two homes, right and it's all

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<v Speaker 1>it's all wiped out, all of it gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there's there's very We will have good stories,

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<v Speaker 2>we will have.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun stories.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point, we will have heroic stories, some of

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<v Speaker 2>which we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen a few.

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<v Speaker 2>But to be honest, I mean that just there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot that's going in the right direction other

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<v Speaker 2>than the wind starting to die down. But I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we're still seeing very active flames along the Palisades fire

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<v Speaker 2>up near East Topanga Fire Road and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>where even though the wind is not as aggressive obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it has been in the last forty eight to seventy

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<v Speaker 2>two hours, it is still blowing. Red flag warning is

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<v Speaker 2>still in effect. It will stay in effect until at

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<v Speaker 2>least six o'clock tonight, and then there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 2>that it just comes back. That's the other thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that we could see winds kick up again on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>and we might have to see some red flag warnings

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<v Speaker 2>come back in Monday and Tuesday of next week. So,

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<v Speaker 2>and we mentioned yesterday in terms of the losses, the

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<v Speaker 2>loss of life is going to be great. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the death toll has put at ten right now according

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<v Speaker 2>to the La County Medical Examiner's Office, but the insured

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<v Speaker 2>losses could exceed twenty billion. Of JP Morgan, analyst, wrote

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<v Speaker 2>in a research note that he expects the total economic

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<v Speaker 2>loss at about fifty billion. ACU weather we mentioned yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>put it higher than that, at about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty billion. Either way, if you compare that to the

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<v Speaker 2>estimate for all of the wildfires in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, all of them was about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty billion dollars, and this is two really large fires.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that there have been a bunch of others.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been even a few that are a few

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<v Speaker 2>hundred acres, but those have not had anywhere near the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of damage that we've seen from the Eaten fire

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<v Speaker 2>and the Palisades fires.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you got to talk about all the other

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<v Speaker 1>fires that keep popping up. I mean talk about anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, usually when we cover these fire events, these

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<v Speaker 1>wind events, we get one big fire. This time we

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<v Speaker 1>had two big fires, and then it seemed like every

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<v Speaker 1>no neighborhood was safe. You know, you saw the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>Hills fire pop up on Wednesday and then West Hills yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like no one is safe. Everyone is on edge

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<v Speaker 1>in La everywhere because of what's going on. So the

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<v Speaker 1>news that the wind event is dying down today greatly appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>To make matters worse, people who were not even in

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<v Speaker 1>danger were getting evacuation alerts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all of them. I got every single one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And it's funny, because funny's not the right word.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's strange because I got the alert the four

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock yesterday afternoon, and I happened to be out of

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<v Speaker 2>park at that time, which is kind of on the

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<v Speaker 2>top of a hill, and I can look around almost

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty degrees from my neighborhood and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see smoke. I can't even see smoke from the

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<v Speaker 2>Hurst fire, which was the closest one to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't see anything, So I thought to myself, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I must have put in the wrong zone

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<v Speaker 2>or my phone thinks I'm in an area that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not actually in. And then a few minutes later we

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<v Speaker 2>get the news that, oh, sorry, it was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>And then guess what, twelve hours later, at four o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, another alert goes out. Now again, I'm warm

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<v Speaker 2>and safe and comfortable and lucky. I have a bed

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm sleeping in, and I get up and see

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, and my heart starts racing because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night. I see it. It's the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact verbiage that it was twelve hours before that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think to myself, you know what, I'll bet you

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<v Speaker 2>this is another false alarm. I go to the maps,

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<v Speaker 2>I go to watch duty, I go to the Genesis

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<v Speaker 2>protect A. I go everywhere I can to find information,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's not a peep about it there being a

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<v Speaker 2>fire anywhere near me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, I've got a bunch of sound.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy who is running the Office of Emergency Management,

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Kevin McGowan, the director. This guy has

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<v Speaker 2>given the absolute worst answers to the questions of what

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<v Speaker 2>the f is going on and what are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do about it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell his boss's boss is in the form of Lindsey

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<v Speaker 2>Horvath and Catherine Barger, supervisors on the county board. They're

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<v Speaker 2>clearly looking for this guy's head because they know that

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<v Speaker 2>this is completely unacceptable. I mean, you talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>unacceptability of looters. Yeah, everybody knows that. We all get

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<v Speaker 2>that start shooting people on the legs or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care, but this is one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>you're now you're now playing pretty fast and loose with

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<v Speaker 2>people's nerves. And after four days of this, after three

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<v Speaker 2>or four days of people constantly throughout the county, throughout

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<v Speaker 2>southern California in general, being on edge, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how to stop a county wide alert from

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<v Speaker 2>going out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it really costs me.

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<v Speaker 1>Of when everyone on Hawaii got the alert that there

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<v Speaker 1>were what missiles coming in or something right now for

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea. Yeah, I mean, holy hell, that's stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>will kill people, Like, give you a heart attack and

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<v Speaker 1>you will die. You've got to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>get the I mean, the incompetence has become rampant. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>when I was listening to John yesterday, was that just yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know all the days right right,

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<v Speaker 1>they just kind of blend together. But you know, usually

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<v Speaker 1>it's a story that we'd be talking about after the

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<v Speaker 1>fires are.

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<v Speaker 4>Out, maybe next week, maybe the week after.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just so maddening not to just get right

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<v Speaker 1>to the point of how the hell some of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff could happen in a place like Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't Haiti, this isn't a.

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<v Speaker 1>Third world country where there is just rampant disorganization and corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait there is, and oh wait, the emperor has

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<v Speaker 1>no clothes, we are inept, we are out of water,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have emergency alerts that work correctly, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was super frustrating to listen to the explanations or

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<v Speaker 2>the obfuscation or I mean, even on Twitter. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a video going around of a mom confronting Governor Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday in the Palisades and trying to get him to

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<v Speaker 2>explain to her what's going on, and First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that the highway patrol didn't tackle this woman

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<v Speaker 2>because she came at him pretty aggressively, but then said

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to hurt him or anything. And his

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<v Speaker 2>lame excuse of I can't talk now I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone with the president. Oh really, can I talk to him? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not actually on the phone with the president. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to call the president. Okay, can I stay here

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<v Speaker 2>and listen because I'm trying. I'd love to know what

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are planning. Well, I'm actually not calling. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'm trying to find sell service so I can

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<v Speaker 2>call the president of the guy audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, we can play when we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>There's going to be a whole stuff, a whole show.

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<v Speaker 2>How's Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>I can breathe here and there's rain? What I know?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you bring that home with you?

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<v Speaker 1>I know we were landing last night and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rain, guys, it's raining here, and everyone's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me like I'm insane, just because we've spent all week

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how we haven't had rain for eight months

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<v Speaker 1>and how it's led to some of the issues that

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<v Speaker 1>we're having. And again, you know, as we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go after people and rail against them, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this that we could not fight against. When

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the wind event and the mountain waves

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<v Speaker 1>and the recipe for disaster, you were just not going

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<v Speaker 1>to combat this, you know, And that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also just glaring ineptitude that comes along with it.

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<v Speaker 4>This could not have been avoided.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the destruction could not have been avoided, but

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<v Speaker 1>it certainly could have been handled better and there could

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<v Speaker 1>have been some mitigation.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have a good news because of the Dream

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<v Speaker 2>Center Los Angeles and our company iHeartMedia La stepping up

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<v Speaker 2>to try to bring some relief to those people who

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<v Speaker 2>have been affected by the firefighters, sorry, by the fires

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<v Speaker 2>that are sweeping across La County. So Dream Center is

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<v Speaker 2>helping team up with us to do all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>things donating food and hygiene products and clothing and blankets

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<v Speaker 2>and air purifiers and all the stuff that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be necessary. You can go to Dreamcenter dot org slash

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<v Speaker 2>donate to give financially. You can learn about all of

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<v Speaker 2>the drop off locations that are going to be available, but.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll tell you more about that as we go through

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<v Speaker 3>the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>The stories, by the way, that are coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ashes, for lack of a better term, not to

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<v Speaker 1>sound like I'm in a poetry session, but they are wow, heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 1>like the amputee, Yeah, the great grandfather of ten who

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<v Speaker 1>was killed in the Eton fire. We're just hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>more about the families and the stories. You know, say

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<v Speaker 1>what you will about celebrities, but Paris Hilton's account of

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<v Speaker 1>the destruction of her home really cut through all the

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<v Speaker 1>hyperbole and all the bologne and really got into it

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of specific memories of specific rooms, of specific

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<v Speaker 1>children and what they were doing in each room as

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<v Speaker 1>she was walking through what's left of the house just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe a quarter of the framing remains.

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<v Speaker 3>And remember, I mean we talked about it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>For she gets a platform because of who she is,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's recognizable, and the stories that she's telling very personal.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I guess you'd say normal stories are

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<v Speaker 2>echoed a thousand times.

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<v Speaker 3>For every Paris Hilton, there's a thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people who who have stories just like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>right it's it's it's a it's heart wrenching to see that, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, they do have the money right to

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<v Speaker 1>be on their feet and to rebuild, and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to struggle the way people maybe in Alta Dina

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<v Speaker 1>are going to struggle in terms of rubbing nickels together

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how they're going to get by and

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<v Speaker 1>how they're going where they're going to live. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a rental How is the rental market?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it even isn't even doable right now in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles to rent while your home's being rebuilt, And where

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<v Speaker 1>does that money come from? And all of that, But

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<v Speaker 1>at the core level of what you're losing, what was

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<v Speaker 1>where your kids were raised, that's all the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were talking about this woman who confronted Governor

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<v Speaker 2>the palisades, and I have the audio for you. I

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Oh, I mean no, that's a response to It'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to that here in a second.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is Governor. You got a second.

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<v Speaker 3>She's running up to the suv that is about to

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<v Speaker 3>get in ear I live here, Governor.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my daughter's school Governor, Please.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm can I heard of my promise.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically

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<v Speaker 5>answer the question of what we can do.

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<v Speaker 6>For you and your daughter?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I hear it? Can I hear your call?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, there's literally I've tried five times. That's why

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<v Speaker 7>To make is the President taking your call?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's not going through?

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<v Speaker 5>Why I have to get cell service?

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<v Speaker 7>Let's get it, Let's get it. I want to be

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<v Speaker 7>here when you call the President.

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<v Speaker 5>She's a lot right now, and it's to immediately get reimbursements,

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<v Speaker 5>individual assistance and to help you. Devis looking for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, especially for your daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>I have four kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone who went to school there.

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<v Speaker 8>They lost their homes.

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<v Speaker 7>They lost two homes because they were living in one

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<v Speaker 7>and building another. Can please tell me tell me what

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<v Speaker 7>are you going to do with the president?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there no water in the hydrants?

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<v Speaker 5>Governor?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all literally is it going to be different next time? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going?

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<v Speaker 4>I wish this was real.

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<v Speaker 3>I would fill him up well, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that sounds like an actress on that was

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<v Speaker 1>over the top. He did not seem like a real person.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually made him seem like a real person, which

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<v Speaker 1>is hard to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>She had every right to do that, I think, but

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<v Speaker 2>he handled it, I guess as well as he stayed calm.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, listen, I'll figure out what we can do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean he used all the normal politician platitudes

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<v Speaker 2>if we're going to rebuild, and of course it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be different, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>But I almost feel like that was planted by him

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<v Speaker 4>and his.

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<v Speaker 3>People to make him look good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's a comment that we got.

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<v Speaker 7>I Karen, Oh, I mean Gary, so sorry to both

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<v Speaker 7>you and that annoying woman who accosted the governor yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm so sorry. The governor is not your personal

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<v Speaker 7>manager of like Coles that you can yell at about

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<v Speaker 7>your coals cash. All right, So, Karen, I mean Gary,

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<v Speaker 7>get it together. You don't get to walk up to

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<v Speaker 7>the governor and yell and scream just because you one

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<v Speaker 7>selfish person isn't getting what they want or need.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to clarify, that's not one selfish person who's not

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<v Speaker 2>getting what she wants. You're talking about probably somewhere ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen thousand people who lost their homes, so somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in that and I mean that's just the people who

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<v Speaker 2>lost their homes. You're not even talking about people who

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<v Speaker 2>lost their businesses or people who's now are going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to find a different place to work, or I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just that this woman has every right to

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<v Speaker 2>walk up to the governor of the state that she

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<v Speaker 2>lives in and ask questions about what happened and how

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<v Speaker 2>do we prevent it in the future. He's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to have the answers necessarily, but she has every right

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<v Speaker 2>to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't compare burn down homes and lives burned down

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<v Speaker 1>to Cole's cash. I don't think that that person was

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of people listening right now. I will say I

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<v Speaker 1>wish that that person was a real person that confronted

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<v Speaker 1>the governor. She was over the top, She didn't sound real,

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<v Speaker 1>but the sentiment was real. I think everyone has that sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it his fault of out everything that happened. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're the governor, you're the face of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get to take the victory lap. When things

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<v Speaker 1>go well, you get to take the heat when things don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like there should be more heat put

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<v Speaker 1>on Karen Bass locally because of the cut to the

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<v Speaker 1>fire department, because of the fact that we knew this

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<v Speaker 1>forecast was happening and that it looked bad from go

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<v Speaker 1>I think that those are all things that are valid

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<v Speaker 1>right now. If you want to go after the governor

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<v Speaker 1>for protecting the baby smelt and not sending the water

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<v Speaker 1>down from northern California, that's one thing. But going after

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<v Speaker 1>him for stuff that isn't in his purview maybe not fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Albeit totally game. It's fair game. It's just probably not

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<v Speaker 1>something that he can answer. He just doesn't have those answers.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back still air quality issues, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>talking with a pulmonologist with Keck Medicine about what we

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<v Speaker 2>can do to keep ourselves protected, and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into this whole issue of false alarms that have been

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<v Speaker 2>plaguing people's phones about potential evacuations because of these fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick set the scene for the latest information on the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades Fire and the Eaten Fire. The Palisades Fire now

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<v Speaker 2>burned twenty four hundred and thirty eight acres eight percent contained.

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<v Speaker 2>They said more than five hundred structures. CalFire specifically says

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three hundred structures either damaged or destroyed by the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades Fire. The Eaten Fire out in the Altadena Pasadena

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<v Speaker 2>area is about thirteen thou nine hundred fifty six acres.

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<v Speaker 2>They pegged their containment there at three percent, but also

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<v Speaker 2>another four to five thousand structures that were damaged or destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have more air tankers and helicopters in the

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<v Speaker 2>air today. In fact, two large air tankers and two

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<v Speaker 2>very large air tankers assigned to the Palisades Fire, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have ordered a fifth tanker. Helicopters have been working

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<v Speaker 2>right now on the west side of the Palisadesire.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever was flying a drone that ran into a Super

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<v Speaker 1>Scooper should be shot by an execution squad.

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<v Speaker 3>You could. I don't even think shot would be nice enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think no, I mean, like not fatal shots initially,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, flesh wounds, gray's wounds, things that'll make you suffer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then go for.

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<v Speaker 4>The kill shot.

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<v Speaker 3>You just let it, let them bleed out.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that too much?

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<v Speaker 3>It might be a little much, But.

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<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court has asked tough questions to the lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>representing TikTok over a law that would force the sale

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<v Speaker 1>or ban of TikTok by January nineteenth. In the US,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok is citing our free speech safeguards despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it is from China, which has none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Biden administration defends the law. Trump opposes the ban.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Trump, he was in appeared virtually in a

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<v Speaker 2>courtroom today in New York. He is officially a felon

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<v Speaker 2>in that business records case.

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<v Speaker 3>He was hit with.

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<v Speaker 2>A sentence of unconditional discharge. Sounds awful. It means nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It means nothing in that there's no jail time, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no real probation, there's no punishment or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that stuff that's going on outside of our worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>You see that Notre Dame Penn State game last night,

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<v Speaker 1>the very end of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I saw the fourth quarter. It was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was tied up when we were on the buses

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<v Speaker 1>to the hotel, and then my brother's like, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>watch this game. You gotta watch this game, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I turn it on when I get in and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like pick for pick for pick, a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>for touchdown, and I mean that was just what a

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<v Speaker 1>wild finish to end on a pick and then that

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<v Speaker 1>late field goal.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Notre Dame Fighting Irish will play the winner

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<v Speaker 2>of tonight's Cotton Bowl game between Texas and Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>in Dallas. Well, we've got in some places, especially along

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<v Speaker 2>the Palisades Malibu coastline, there even some sections of Catalina Island,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen some very hazardous, very unhealthy and unhealthy ratings

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to common air pollutants in particulate matters

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Because of our fires, obviously, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get some words from experts from an expert, doctor Richard Castriota,

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<v Speaker 2>pulmonologists with KEC Medicine of USC talking about the issues

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<v Speaker 2>that come up with this and doctor thanks for taking

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you suggest for people?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously they're going to people in the fire

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<v Speaker 2>areas that are going to be regardless of how healthy

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<v Speaker 2>they are, affected by the smoke and the particulates. But

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<v Speaker 2>for people in general La County, what should we do

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<v Speaker 2>to uh to kind of protect ourselves from this bad

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that for everybody, we would suggest to

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<v Speaker 5>stay in if you can. If you must go out,

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<v Speaker 5>and nine five masks would be helpful. Don't do any

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<v Speaker 5>real physical exertion.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, while good physical activity like jogging and running

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<v Speaker 5>might be healthy in some other circumstances, under these circumstances,

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<v Speaker 5>you're just going to be forcing more toxic particles into

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<v Speaker 5>your mungs. So no running and jogging. If you're driving,

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<v Speaker 5>put the circulation system down recirculation system button on the car.

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<v Speaker 5>Most cars will have this. They're designed to keep from

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<v Speaker 5>getting carbon monoxide lady tunnel air in when you're going

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<v Speaker 5>through tunnels and things, but it basically recirculates the air

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<v Speaker 5>and the car, so you're not getting the toxic smoke

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<v Speaker 5>in from the outside when you're driving around. If you

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<v Speaker 5>can at all stay in, it's better to stay in.

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<v Speaker 5>Run the air conditioner if you If you have people

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<v Speaker 5>in the home that are particularly susceptible, so there's people

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<v Speaker 5>with asthma, CLPD, pulmonary fibrosses, heart disease, young very young children,

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<v Speaker 5>pregnant ladies, then I would suggest getting a HEPA filter.

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<v Speaker 5>Some with filters labeled MERV thirteen or higher to run

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<v Speaker 5>and try to keep your home safe. And this advice

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<v Speaker 5>is sort of increases the closer that you'll get to

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<v Speaker 5>the fire zones, palsades and eaten fires, and the stronger

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<v Speaker 5>your exposure, this stronger the recommendation would be from us

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<v Speaker 5>to limit your outdoor activity and protect your home with

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<v Speaker 5>recirculating sapper filters and your car as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good call about the air conditioning, something you

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<v Speaker 1>would think of because it is cold, and especially you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was evacuated from my home, so it is ice

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<v Speaker 1>cold in there right now because the heater.

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<v Speaker 4>Hasn't been running. But it does smell a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really get away from the smell of the

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<v Speaker 1>smoke inside the home because it's coming in through the

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<v Speaker 1>chimneys and whatnot. But great advice to kind of blow

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<v Speaker 1>it out of there using the air conditioner at least

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<v Speaker 1>for a period of time.

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<v Speaker 5>Good. I hope you folks are all safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so far.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a question though, if you're in an

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<v Speaker 2>area where I was seeing a lot of smoke in

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<v Speaker 2>my neighborhood, but the last two days, last day and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, I haven't seen any smoke. Is there something

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<v Speaker 2>I need to kind of keep an eye on about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>If I start coughing uncontrollaby, how would I know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm affected by these particulates that I don't necessarily smell

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<v Speaker 2>or see.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it often takes a couple of days before the

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<v Speaker 5>full effects health effects of the smoke in relation to manifest.

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<v Speaker 5>So the initial things are going to be cough and

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<v Speaker 5>the eye irritation. Those are due to the larger particles

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<v Speaker 5>and irritating the effort airways. The smaller two point five

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<v Speaker 5>microns and and and and smaller are going to get

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<v Speaker 5>down to the lower levels inside the lungs and impair

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<v Speaker 5>your immune system. So sort of have to imagine that

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<v Speaker 5>the lungs are the first, the first place of defense

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<v Speaker 5>against everything and bring in acres and acres of air

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<v Speaker 5>laden with all kinds of stuff every day, and our

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<v Speaker 5>lungs are able to deal with that in a in

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<v Speaker 5>a very efficient manner, preventing us from getting sick and

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<v Speaker 5>getting infected. When we breathe in these toxic particles from

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<v Speaker 5>the smoke, we overwhelm the immune system and impede that

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<v Speaker 5>immune response. And so you're going to be more susceptible

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<v Speaker 5>to all kinds of viruses and bacteria that ordinarily you're

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<v Speaker 5>while you would be able to withstand. So you're you're

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to have a lower level of assessment when

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<v Speaker 5>you're saying, oh, gee, I got a cough, Maybe I

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<v Speaker 5>should go and see somebody sooner. The clock is going

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<v Speaker 5>to be normal just as part of the reaction to

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<v Speaker 5>the smoke, but it also is coming in feature Amian response,

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<v Speaker 5>and so you will be more susceptible to infections.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Doctor Richard Castriota, Palmonologist, KC Medicine, a USC.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, we appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 5>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be doing a quick pop in with Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Monks from KFI News. He's out in the Palisades once

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<v Speaker 2>again and ran into a couple of people who were hiking,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, hiking apparently hiking, yes, hiking during the fire

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<v Speaker 2>and it's very La.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just very southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, they were hiking when the fire broke out, or

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<v Speaker 1>hiking yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to find out from Okay, the death toll

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<v Speaker 2>from these fires, the Palisade Fire and the Eating fire

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<v Speaker 2>is at ten right now. We heard La County Sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Luna said that the death toll is likely to rise.

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<v Speaker 2>The death toll that we're getting is from the medical

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<v Speaker 2>examiner who is investigating these ten fire related deaths. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>two of them from the Palisades fire that we know of,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of them from the fire over in Pasadena.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is one of the stories behind that statistic.

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<v Speaker 4>Sherry Shaw. She's sixty two years old. She's a graphic designer.

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<v Speaker 1>She lives in Pasadena, and she saw the news and

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening in Altadina. She knew her brother Victor

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<v Speaker 1>lived in their family home there in Altadena, so she

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<v Speaker 1>drives to the place seven thirty pm on Tuesday. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when things were popping off. This is about when

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of my house. So this was some

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<v Speaker 1>things that we're getting out of control in Altadena and

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<v Speaker 1>people were scrambling to get out of there anyway, seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty pm Tuesday, she goes to Victor's She tries to

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<v Speaker 1>help them pack up some of the family's belongings. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a home that the parents bought back in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixties on Monterros to drive and her brother, Victor, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>has been recently suffering from balance vision issues. He's got diabetes.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes into the house seven thirty ish. She finds

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<v Speaker 1>him watching the local TV news, getting upset, getting agitated,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can imagine, as he sees a footage of

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<v Speaker 1>the fires just in his neighborhood, essentially around his neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, she starts grabbing all the meds, the seizure

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<v Speaker 1>meds that he's on that help him calm down, but

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<v Speaker 1>he starts to feel groggy because of it, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to drift off to sleep. As she's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>running around the house packing things up, parents' wedding pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, documents, more medications like that, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>growing deeper and deeper into sleep. She's loading up the suv.

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<v Speaker 1>She sees the flames getting closer, and a home about

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<v Speaker 1>a block away starts to catch fire, and she sees

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<v Speaker 1>the ember start flying, so she runs inside and she

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<v Speaker 1>tries to grab Victor off the couch.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you got to get up. We got to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of here. We got to get out of here

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<v Speaker 4>right now, and he's just kind of not moving.

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<v Speaker 1>He's dead weight, right, and he says, you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just sit here for a couple of minutes, and

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<v Speaker 1>she hops in her suv drives to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the street to find out a better idea of what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, to get help. She sees a police officer there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his hands full. He says, don't go back

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<v Speaker 1>up there, and she can. At that point, she looks

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<v Speaker 1>and the fire had overcome, overcome the street, and can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine that moment.

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<v Speaker 6>And I opened the front door and just yelled in Victor,

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<v Speaker 6>we got to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>This is it.

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<v Speaker 8>We have to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>The fire's here.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't hear him say anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard him say nothing.

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<v Speaker 8>So I ran to the car and I just I

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<v Speaker 8>just got out beside it to step in the debris

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<v Speaker 8>and see if he can call his name, and maybe

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<v Speaker 8>he's unconscious, maybe he's in a corner somewhere. And he

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<v Speaker 8>turned around and he looked on the ground, and he

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<v Speaker 8>was there. He was on the ground. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 8>to look because I just didn't want to see my

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<v Speaker 8>brother like that.

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<v Speaker 6>We discovered he had a water hose in his hand,

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<v Speaker 6>so we think that he might have tried to put

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<v Speaker 6>the fire out, or tried to make a path to lead.

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<v Speaker 8>To his truck, or maybe had dowst himself.

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<v Speaker 4>She says, it plays in her head.

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<v Speaker 1>Had she been able to go back stay five more minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>would it have made a difference. I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of life changing stuff, and I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not her fault. There's an impossible situation, but that is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>That has happened time and time again in the past

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two hours of people you gotta believe, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get family members out, realizing it was too late to

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<v Speaker 1>get family members out that may not be completely mobile.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one is this sixty seven year old guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Mitchell, retired salesman, amputee, his son in his twenties, bedridden.

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<v Speaker 2>They both died when the fire hit through Altadena, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's no listen. There's an excitement. There's an adrenaline pump

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<v Speaker 2>that comes when you start to talk about when it's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>In the moment, you know, the images that we had

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<v Speaker 2>of these embers blowing sixty seventy miles an hour through

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<v Speaker 2>these neighborhoods and catching tree and house and car and

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<v Speaker 2>everything on fire. There's a certain amount of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>nervous excitement about what's going on. But as that fades

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<v Speaker 2>and we are those you know, feelings of sort of

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<v Speaker 2>this tingly excitement are replaced by this just thud, this

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<v Speaker 2>weighted thudd of loss that these people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be going through. That, I mean, these entire neighborhoods are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be going through. And in Altadena, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like most of the deaths were kind of concentrated within

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of blocks, so the stories don't get a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot better. I don't know if you heard Keana producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Keana got yet another warning, another alert on her phone

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<v Speaker 2>just a few minutes ago. So we'll talk with Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Monks here in a few minutes. We'll also be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about those false alerts that went out and what the

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<v Speaker 2>county says they're going to be doing about.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and how we're going to kill the person who

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<v Speaker 1>flew the drone into the super scooper grounding it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon will continue with our fire coverage right

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<v Speaker 2>after this.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app,