WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:16.719 Let's Tiger's Podcast, episode number four hundred and sixteen, post 2 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:20.079 mortem of a thirty four to fourteen defeat to the 3 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:23.079 New Zealand Warriors, joined by Nick and Gary. 4 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.199 Nick. What's your one word? 5 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:30.280 Very hard to come up with a clean one word, Eddie, 6 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:34.880 very boring term. I guess deflating, especially after last week. 7 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:36.039 You know, you get a little bit of a hope 8 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:39.520 up after beating the Roosters and then felt very let 9 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:44.320 down today. So just you know, as a quick I 10 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:47.759 guess the indication of where I am. My street's got 11 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:49.479 quite a few houses being built at the moment, and 12 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:51.280 there's lots of nuts and bolts all over the road 13 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:54.000 and nails, and quite often you drive past and you'll 14 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:55.600 end up with a puncture. And it just feels like 15 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.119 watching this team is constantly giving me punchers. 16 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:01.240 Hello, you're one word? 17 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:03.119 Yeah? 18 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:06.000 Mine is similar to Nick. It's just exhausting. 19 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:12.480 This team to support and follow is exhausting, Like it's 20 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:18.159 really hard to keep coming back when we just do 21 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:23.159 dumb stuff and play so poorly and so ill disciplined 22 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.159 and so far below where the side that we have 23 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.519 to put on the field should be playing. It is 24 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.040 just so exhausting and frustrating. 25 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:38.280 Joel's word, you guess the boys physicality. He also went 26 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.159 with the word nine. He said, it's a disgrace that 27 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.200 we've lost nine times in a row to the same opposition. 28 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.920 And Steve just went with demolished. He said, that's what 29 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.159 happened on both sides of the ruck today. I'll run 30 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:54.560 through this submission from the West Tigers podcast for them. 31 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:59.920 Nat Max seventy eight went with clunky, attack was clung 32 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.599 every time we had decent field possession, Seek and destroy 33 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.719 went with Dewey. He must go to thirteen next week. 34 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:09.960 Taylor made a left center. 35 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:12.800 Vozzi nine. 36 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.719 He is a long time listener, first time poster. Thank 37 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:17.719 you for contributing. 38 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:18.080 Bozzy. 39 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:19.039 He just went with Appy. 40 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.159 We've gone all in on him and we've got zero 41 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.960 game plan around him. He went on to say ad 42 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.840 needs to stay around around the ruck. Pushed the halves 43 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:35.560 wider to roll. Taylor mays just strike center. Teddy s 44 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:42.879 said Arduus lost the forward battle, lost first contact. We 45 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:48.520 looked better with Hope, ad Leui, Sorry, Louis and Appy 46 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:51.479 looked like reserve graders out there. Ke Wee Tiger said 47 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:56.719 flat we were not up for the grind. Snake was bewildered. 48 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.800 He said, he's bewildered because individ rules that spend all 49 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:03.400 week training together look like they have no idea when 50 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:06.280 they get on the field. Re signing Appy for two 51 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.759 years looks like a big punt. Plunder Monkey said, out 52 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:15.000 muscled Plenty was in the tigers favor today in regards 53 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.719 to the team changes, with the Warriors missing some senior 54 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.159 guys and us getting happy in Jerome back however, they 55 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:25.520 belt at us all day Appy in Jerome common theme 56 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.759 going here. Boys looked as flat as a day old lemonade. 57 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:36.319 LFC Tiger was deflated. Anytime we get a chink of light, 58 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:43.199 we diminish it. H O nine IQ. We lack so 59 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:48.360 badly in this area of the game, Mike said regression. 60 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.240 Apart from the first three minutes, there was not much 61 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:56.800 to like. Rich ometer will pour two steps forward one 62 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.400 point five steps back. That's why this is such a 63 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:05.479 long proces s Tiger town SFS said, worrying, how can 64 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:12.319 anyone explain the difference in cohesion attacking threat? He said, 65 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.680 I went on to watch Power and Penrith game was 66 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.839 a much higher standard. Awful truly and Tiger's eye went 67 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.639 with typical, typical game after scoring the first try, flat 68 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:30.680 lack of ideas, poor reads, out muscled bad refereeing, so 69 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.519 he got the whole lot in there. Boys, I've morphed 70 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:39.000 into Joel tonight. I've got three one word submissions. 71 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:41.519 It's better than the seven he usually has. 72 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.480 Yeah, so I've reduced I've done well. My first one 73 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.319 is not actually a word, but you can picture it 74 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:49.560 because I've got a favorite list of my emojis and 75 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:53.000 they come up in order of the ones I've most used. 76 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.000 Nick's already lost it now, but I'm thinking of the 77 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.759 big turd with eyes that is the West. Well you're 78 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.800 talking about, Nick, A huge turd with eyes is what 79 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.720 I said straight after the game, So that is one 80 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:09.519 of them. On a more serious note, I've gone with 81 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.240 captains because I think I said to you boys during 82 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.040 the week, it's time for our captains to start earning 83 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.160 their money. And I was extremely disappointed by both their 84 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.519 performances today. And my third one is mentality, and I'm 85 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:23.519 going to get that into that a little bit later 86 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.519 when we talk around the press conference and some of 87 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:31.680 our performance today. But Nick, was it a big step 88 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:36.600 backwards today or is it what's to be expected against 89 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:37.959 the top full side away from home. 90 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.120 Maybe a bit of both. Frustratingly, we seem to be 91 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:45.120 muscled when we come up against the biggest, stronger teams, 92 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.199 and I know Joel's physicality, would I think it wrung 93 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.680 true today? You know, worries a big across the park. 94 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:55.120 But one of the points you just made Eddie about leadership, 95 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.519 I think maybe Jerome's a bit deflated, not just with 96 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.160 you know where we're at, I guess with the Tigers 97 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:04.399 as the season's going at the moment, but also off 98 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:05.920 the back of Origin. I think he probably had a 99 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.560 bit of an Origin hangover today. He just doesn't look 100 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.519 like the same Jerome Lewie that I saw in the 101 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:14.480 first sort of four to eight weeks of the comp 102 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.160 when he was really coming out and screaming and jumping 103 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:19.079 up and down and high fiving everyone as he ran 104 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:20.800 out through the tunnel we know when he first ran 105 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.959 into the field. Just looks a different player, happy, looks beaten. 106 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.560 In the press conferences, he just looks like he wants 107 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.920 to go in a hole and hide it or cry. 108 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.959 So it's just I think they're all deflated. I think 109 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.240 everyone can see which direction the season's going, and unfortunately 110 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:41.240 it's going down that toilet spend again, the same way 111 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.199 it has gone for the last twelve to thirty years. 112 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.160 Gary, what side of the ledger do you sit on? 113 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:45.800 Top four? 114 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.560 Side away? Excusable or big step backwards. 115 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.680 No, you can't excuse that performance today at all. And 116 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:53.600 I was a little bit I was a little bit 117 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.839 disappointed with Benji's press conference and I think you're going 118 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:59.000 to raise it a bit later. Yeah, I think we 119 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.319 made too many excuse today for what was a really 120 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:08.800 poor performance, really dumb performance. The amount of and I 121 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:12.160 think Rats used the her one word as being IQ 122 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:16.439 and the lack of footy IQ that our side displayed 123 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:25.199 today was unforgivable. And everyone keeps on raising the word physicality. 124 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.319 It comes down to one thing. We don't win the 125 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.800 first contact. So we don't win the first contact when 126 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.240 we have the ball, and we don't win the first 127 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.000 contact when we're defending. And if you can't do that 128 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.879 against the aside, like the Warriors, they're just going to 129 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.240 steamroll straight through you and keep going straight through the middle, 130 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.759 which is what we saw, especially in that second half 131 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.480 to day. We never win that first contact, and if 132 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.240 we want to be a serious team, then we need 133 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:59.199 to start winning that first contact or our performances are 134 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.360 going to be as inconsistent as what we're seeing at 135 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:07.160 the moment. First contact is paramount for this team to 136 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.720 get that sorted and get that sorted out really quick. 137 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.920 Got a few bullet points written down here, boys, so 138 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.120 we will touch on later. The forward pack. I want 139 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.759 to single out three players in particular for different reasons. 140 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.360 That's going to be our two captains and Adam Dewey, 141 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.959 and there's a few other talking points. But Gary, you 142 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.000 mentioned that press conference, and I've written a few things down, 143 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.440 so it's not exact quotes, but it's close to the 144 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.559 mark from what Benji said. He was another one who 145 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:38.960 morphed into Joel. He said we were out physical. Credit 146 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:40.240 to the boys that they fought hard. 147 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:41.720 I've heard that before. 148 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.240 Maybe scoring the try earlier, we thought it was going 149 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.519 to be easier than what it was. We're better in moments, 150 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:56.440 but we still need to improve. We're inconsistent within games. 151 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:01.080 I've got to find out what makes players tick every week. 152 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:07.159 Long term picture, we're on track. What did you make 153 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:08.840 of that? 154 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.120 There was a lot there, he said today that I 155 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.679 don't agree with. As I said earlier. We were done 156 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:20.799 and lacked in that first contact, and we lacked mentally 157 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:25.360 and physically throughout that game today. And Benji also in 158 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.440 that press conference praise the Warriors. The Warriors weren't that 159 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:32.440 good today, like he said, they were a really good team, 160 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.399 not what they put out on the field today. I 161 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:38.279 didn't think they were anything outstanding. 162 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.279 And I'm sick of the excuse. 163 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.960 I'm sick of hearing that we're on an upward trend 164 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.559 or things are going in the right direction. I think 165 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.039 things probably are going in the right direction, but we're 166 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.759 up and down all over the place. And that's the 167 00:09:55.879 --> 00:10:00.480 issue for me, the inconsistency from week to week throughout 168 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.919 the game. That's Benji's job to fix, and he needs 169 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:08.279 to get it fixed, because I've waited long enough, like 170 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:12.600 it's what's fifteen years will be soon that we haven't 171 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:15.559 played finals football. We need to get this sorted out, 172 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.320 and it needs to happen quick, and it's based around 173 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:22.720 at times today you haven't got that first try of 174 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.759 the Warrior squad, and I'm ranting and wandering all over 175 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.360 the track, all over the place at the moment. 176 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:29.600 But that first try the Warrior scored. 177 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.759 Today, where he was able to run around just about 178 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:35.080 under the post to score a try that they scored 179 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:36.200 from a couple of meters out. 180 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.399 That should never ever happen. You should not. 181 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.000 That to me shows a lack of intent and a 182 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:44.360 lack of intensity. And I turned to Steve when it 183 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.039 happened and I said, I'm really worried about that. 184 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.399 That's not a good sign. And they're the. 185 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:53.000 Things that we need to improve. They're the things we're 186 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:55.159 hoping that would improve when we brought a guy like 187 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:59.080 Jerome Loui into the club who was going to lift 188 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.639 up the standards of the team. But before that first try, 189 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.320 he stepped in front of a player off a bomb 190 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.639 and I got done for an escort penalty that wasn't 191 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:12.480 needed and was just a dumb play. There was far 192 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:17.720 too many dumb plays, far too many low effort plays, 193 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.639 and the standards that I was hoping that Lui was 194 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.480 going to set at our club, they were non existent today, 195 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.120 and that's something we need to get sorted out. 196 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:27.399 Nick. 197 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.120 Your takeaways from the press conference, I don't know if 198 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:31.919 you've seen it, but I've given you enough quotes there. 199 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:35.279 Yeah, I did watch it, and I mean think Gary's 200 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.679 covered at all the fact that the one thing that 201 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:39.519 wrapped me the wrong way is what Gary already said 202 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.559 that Benji praised the Warriors for being such a good team, 203 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.720 and I think he's just sort of pumping them up 204 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.799 a little bit to cover or you know, throw a 205 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:51.279 smoke screen against how bad or how poor we were. 206 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:56.279 So you know, you can't make excuses for poor performances, 207 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:00.600 especially when it happens so frequently. So like I said, 208 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:02.639 you know, I had my hopes up last week. I 209 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.039 thought we came out quite strongly last week and that 210 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.279 showed on the scoreboard. Yes, we fell away a little 211 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:08.799 bit when we hit that lead because we didn't know 212 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:10.879 how to actually go on and win that game the 213 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:14.799 way the good team would or should. But yeah, today 214 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.960 was a complete, complete, you know, turn around from that. 215 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.039 You know, we led after what two minutes we scored 216 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.559 that first tray out in the corner. Scotton was jumping 217 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.240 around like good won the Grand Final and made the 218 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:27.120 finals already, and then only a handful of minutes later 219 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.679 the Warriors scored. Like Gary said, it was soft. I 220 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:32.600 thought anytime the Warriors today through any type of shape 221 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:34.840 at our back line, we just looked like we're going 222 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.480 into our shells. We didn't know how to handle it. 223 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:40.200 We looked scattered at times in defense, and it was 224 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:43.279 just it was too easy. So, you know, I know 225 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:45.679 we've got some possibilities of who we might be able 226 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.080 to bring up from the reserve grade team, but we 227 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:51.159 look like a reserve grade team at times for me today. 228 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.279 The reason why we were unable to handle that shape 229 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.919 they threw out us today. A lot of times we 230 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.279 just were out numbered on those that side of the field. 231 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.639 It wasn't that they were stripping us with numbers, was 232 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.559 that the numbers weren't there to start with, And a 233 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:08.720 lot of that came down because the Warriors were punching 234 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.360 through the middle so much and our middle was collapsing 235 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:16.039 at times. It looked like we almost miscounted the amount 236 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.240 of space they had out on that left edge especially. 237 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:25.360 I think it just was unforgivable today, and I don't understand, like, 238 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.639 I really don't understand why we're so short so many 239 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.480 times out there because the shape they ran today wasn't 240 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:35.039 anything amazing, Like they didn't have to do a lot 241 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.039 to score those tries because there was just no one there. 242 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.159 I don't know what's going on without defense. It looks 243 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:41.799 like to me at times, we make a lot of 244 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.840 really poor defensive decisions. And I watched I'm the saddest. 245 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:47.080 I watched the highlights before we jumped on his pod, 246 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:49.679 just to try and I don't get a few of 247 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.679 the moments back fresh in my mind. But a few 248 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:57.120 times I saw a Skelton come in and commit to it, 249 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.720 you know, a defensive move, or commit to an attacker 250 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.960 when he probably should have stayed out. So to would 251 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.399 do it as well. So I don't know whether they're 252 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:07.600 not trusting the people inside them or just panicing trying 253 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.879 to shut it down too quickly. But it just looks messy. 254 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.240 And yeah, as he said, it just made it so 255 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:18.039 easy for the warriors. Strip numbers happened too frequently. It's 256 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.639 not good enough. It's not Enter or Cordy. 257 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.639 All right, Gary, it's time for my rant tonight. I 258 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:26.120 wasn't going to host to night, but I was going 259 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.399 to say, Joel, I need to come on for ten minutes. 260 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.240 And I'm going to qualify this by saying three things 261 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:37.200 about Benji. I think in general, over his eighteen months 262 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:42.159 He's dealt with the press really well through some hard times. 263 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.200 You know, I think his selections in general make sense 264 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:50.159 a lot of the time. The second qualifier is that 265 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.960 was a home press conference for him over in New Zealand, 266 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.360 and he is a godlike figure over there, so there's 267 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.919 no doubt he was interacting different with those journalists than 268 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:02.120 he would to the Sydney meet. And I think that's 269 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:03.639 I'm not going to give him a pass with the 270 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.519 amount of praise he gave the Warriors, but he also 271 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.000 talked about the crowd and you know, it was like 272 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.919 we were playing against God over there. So I give 273 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.399 him half a pass for that, and I three, I 274 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.720 still want him to be our coach next season because 275 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.360 I think he has made some improvements. 276 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:25.000 He's improved our roster. But but that was a ghastly 277 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:25.759 press conference. 278 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:31.639 That was an awful press conference, and his mood reflected 279 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.120 how the team played today. And that's why I use 280 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:37.559 the word mentality. His mentality when he played, he was 281 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.679 not consistent. He was a brilliant player, Benji Marshall, but 282 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.720 he was not a consistent player. And I've highlighted Gary 283 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.799 what's happened after our last four wins all right. After 284 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.600 we beat Newcastle, we turned it up against Paramatta and 285 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.960 got spanked on Easter Monday, and what was a huge 286 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.279 game for the club after our win against the Sharks, 287 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:01.840 we actually won, but trendous against the Dragons. They had 288 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:05.120 twelve line breaks to two. Should have lost except for 289 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:07.080 that lunatic from the Dragons who dropped the ball over 290 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.320 the line and ball around one hundred and ten meters. 291 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.440 So then after two wins in a row, we went 292 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.039 and got pumped sixty four niel by Melbourne and looked 293 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.320 like we completely didn't care, didn't want to be there. 294 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:20.000 And then after this, lads, we know with the Roosters, 295 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:22.600 we go and get pumped in what was a flattering scoreline. 296 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.279 I mean it was extremely flattering with eight minutes to 297 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.919 go thirty four to fourteen. I still thought was flattering 298 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.519 for the way we played. But then at the end 299 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.720 of the press conference, you know he's laughing about I 300 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.840 feel like I'm saying my eulogy here, Like I don't 301 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:39.799 want to see my head coach laughing in a press 302 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.600 conference after we got pumped. It's not the place to 303 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:44.919 do it, you know, I know there's time for a 304 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.639 laugh in a grueling season with the media, but it's 305 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.840 not the time when you've just got pumped because you're 306 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.399 sending a message to the players, you're sending a message 307 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:55.840 to your fans, and you're sending a message to everyone 308 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.679 that this is all right. We got beaten by a 309 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.480 top four side. It's a great crowd out here to 310 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:03.840 New Zealand. Well done to the Warriors. So I thought 311 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.839 that was a borderline pathetic press conference by Benji Marshall, 312 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.640 and I'm really concerned Gary about that. I thought it was, 313 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.680 to be fair, it's an outlier of what he's produced 314 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.359 this year, and I know it's going off the media, 315 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:20.000 but I was alarmed watching that. 316 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:27.000 Yeah, I get at times in those press conferences you 317 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.720 want to speak differently to the press how you're speaking 318 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:34.200 to your team. So at times during press conferences you 319 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:36.759 want to paint up the positives and then when you 320 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.079 go back behind closed doors, you speak to the team 321 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.359 about what you really feel and give them the message. 322 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:48.640 But today just simply wasn't good enough. And there's been 323 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.759 too much of that this season. I think it was 324 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:53.640 really time that that needed to be called out in 325 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.440 a press conference. After that game today, I really thought 326 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:58.920 I would have heard Benji say today. 327 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.440 I was expecting that because we only got one or 328 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:05.279 two of them in a year in you. 329 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.440 But now's the time they needed. And it's not just 330 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.160 the players that need to hear it. I think our 331 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.519 fan base needs to hear that that sort of standard 332 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.559 that we saw today is no longer acceptable at our club. 333 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.000 That we're not going to talk anymore about us going 334 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:24.079 in the right direction. We're going to call out. And 335 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:26.920 I agree with you, Eddie, you don't do it every week, 336 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.440 but I thought today was the day to call out 337 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:32.200 that this is not good enough for our club, This 338 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.680 is not good enough for our team, this is not 339 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.559 the type of performance we want to see and where 340 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:41.440 we will be better next week. But there was none 341 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.680 of that today. I thought it was too It was 342 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.799 too easy of a press conference compared to the performance 343 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:52.240 that we saw today, and that, for me is what 344 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.039 was disappointing. And it's really hard because I'm sure the 345 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.440 players are feeling that rollerca so that we're all feeling, 346 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:01.559 but we can't do anything about that. The players and 347 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.240 the coaching stuff can do something about that. And I 348 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:06.720 wanted to hear more from our coach after that game 349 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:09.880 than what he actually dished up this afternoon. 350 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.440 I think it's really clear that and app he said, 351 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.519 you know during that press conference, you know that you know, 352 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:17.599 we love him, you talk about Benji and will do 353 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:20.880 anything for him, blah blah blah. He's obviously extremely well 354 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:25.519 respected by the playing group, and he's obviously extremely well respected, 355 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.720 like the commentary said, you know in New Zealand as 356 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.319 a whole, and that those journalists that came out to 357 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.039 the press conference obviously treated him with a lot of respect. 358 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.480 I don't think anyone's really hitting him hard enough with 359 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:37.799 those questions, like they're sort of tiptoeing around it a bit, 360 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.279 like you know, asking him questions how did you feel 361 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.880 and how do you think you're going? And you know 362 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:45.759 what's wrong and blah blah blah. But it was too soft, 363 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.839 and I think Benji just feels like for me watching him, 364 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.480 it's almost like he's elevated on his eyechair and he's 365 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:54.480 just not being probed enough. You know, someone needs to 366 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:56.119 hit him with a cattle prod in the butt and 367 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.279 get more of a reaction out of him, because like 368 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:02.039 all you're saying, Eddie, you know, Craig Bellamy wouldn't act 369 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.440 like that at a press conference after his team put 370 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.440 in a very average performance. So there's got to be 371 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:08.720 more to it. And I get what you're saying. 372 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:09.039 Gary. 373 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:11.799 It's one thing to come out and talk about that 374 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:13.319 in front of the media and maybe you will go 375 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:15.400 behind closed doors and say it differently. But I don't 376 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.200 know if he does. Does he like is he going 377 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.079 in and ripping the team to shreds, because they deserve 378 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.640 to be ripped to shreds. Some of those individual performances 379 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.480 deserve to be pulled apart by the head coach. I 380 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:27.079 don't know if that's happening or not, but it needs 381 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:27.480 to happen. 382 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:32.480 That the players coming out and saying we respect the coach, 383 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:35.680 we play for the coach is getting a little bit old. 384 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:40.440 I think it's time that that is shown on the field, 385 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.559 that that they go out there and they play in 386 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:47.119 a way that shows that they're playing for Benji Mush 387 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:50.200 because at times it doesn't look that way. At times 388 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:55.000 it's just not the application and the effort is just 389 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.240 not good enough at times. And I thought there are 390 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.319 a number of occasions today where the application and the 391 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:05.279 effort just wasn't good enough. So I don't think the 392 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:10.079 players have too many more opportunities to say we love Benji, 393 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.119 we respect him as a coach, we're playing for him. 394 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.200 He's a great coach. I don't think they have too 395 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.039 many more opportunities to say that, because they need to 396 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.039 start showing it. They need to start showing it on 397 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.920 the field because today, Yeah, if anyone can't tell, I'm 398 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.799 very annoyed with what we dished up today. 399 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:31.000 It's the thing Gary like that the words don't match 400 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.240 the actions. And obviously there's two sides going out there competing, 401 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:35.920