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Milwaukee that helped a criminal illegal alien escape arrest and
deportation by distracting the Ice agents out in the hallway
and then sending the illegal alien out through a back door.
Remember that story. Her trial is underway this week John
Sexton at hot air dot com. He's been following it.
Her name is Judge Hannah Dugan and it's not going
well for her in this case. So this is the
write up, the first righte up. I've got two of
them here because it's taking place over the course of
several days here. But as I understand it now, the
prosecution has now rested and the let me double check
here just to confirm before I say something that yes,
the defend of the defense has just four witnesses that
it could that it says it plans to call today,
so this thing could be done with closing arguments tomorrow
and go to the jury. And that's always like I
don't predict predict election outcomes and I don't predict jury outcomes.
You never know what a jury is going to do.
You you know, observers in the courtroom, you think this
is an air tight case and the jury comes back
hung or not guilty or something, or you know, vice versa.
You think, oh, gosh, weak case, and then they come
back with, you know, guilty on all accounts, like wow,
And then you always got to keep in mind like
the time of day, right, this is a week before Christmas.
If you get the case, if you're the jury, and
you go back to deliberate, and it's a you know,
it's like Friday at eleven am. You may you may
stick around through lunch, get your last free meal kind
of a thing, but then you know, you want to
wrap it up in the next five hours so you
can go home and not have to come back after
a weekend on a Monday, the Monday before Christmas. Right,
all of that stuff factors in. That's why I don't
predict outcomes on this stuff, but I will say the
case does not appear to be going very well for
Judge Dugan. So the judge who was with Dugan, there
was another judge there and her name is Christella Severa. Okay,
so she was with Judge Dugan because Dugan had asked
her to come out of her courtroom. I'll get to
more own more of the details on that in a minute.
So the judge who was with Dugan confronting the arrest
team in the hallway took the stand, and her testimony
did not help right. Judge Severa testified that the courthouse
is a public building and then anybody is allowed in.
She said, it's a public building and once they passed
through security, technically anybody is free to enter the courthouse
for any reason. She then testified that Judge Dugan had
summoned her out of her courtroom, which is right next
to Dugan's courtroom, and Dugan said, hey, come out into
the hallway to check a warrant. Dugan asked her to
keep your robe on. Severa said she was uncomfortable with
this because us she doesn't like she says, I didn't
want to walk in the hallway with my robe on.
She said that it conveys authority, and when you're out
in the hallway, you're not in your courtroom, and so
you don't have any you know, authority out in the hallway.
So judges don't wear their robes out in the hallway,
but in this case, Dugan said, were your robe. Severa
was uncomfortable with it, but apparently she did it. She
also confirmed the testimony from earlier that Judge Dugan seemed
angry or irritated when she spoke to the arrest team.
Judge Severa said that the federal agent was professional, but
Dugan could have been more quote diplomatic. Her irritation seemed
to progress to anger, said Severa. After Judge Dougan told
the members of the arrest team that they had to
go to to the Chief Judge's office, Judge Severa walked
down the hall to show them where to go. So
Dugan was like, show that you got to go to
the chief Judge's office. That's down there. Judge Severa, go
take them down there. Severa walks them down there, turns
around and realizes that Judge Dugan was gone, Dugan didn't
follow along. She said she felt abandoned by Dugan when
she led the federal officials to the Chief Judge's office
and realized Dugan hadn't followed her. She says, I was amazed,
I thought she left me. Fast forward later on in
the day, Severa starts getting emails and texts and stuff
from several public defense attorneys, public defenders, and she's not
sure why she's getting all of this these accolades, why
people are praising her. Why are all these public defenders
celebrating her, And at first she wasn't sure why. And
then later she is quote mortified that they thought she
was trying to help a criminal defendant escape arrest. So
these public defenders thought she was in on the deception,
and she was shocked. Maura Gingrich, an attorney who was
identified as the woman that was taking photos of the
federal agents in the hallways. Maura Gingrich, who's on the
witness list, said, we know what you guys are trying
to do. That's what Gingrich told the judge Severa, we
know what you guys were trying to do. And Severa's like,
I wasn't trying to do that. I was just told
to come out and then escort these guys down to
the chief Judge. Later that day, Dugan tells SERVERA that
Dugan is in trouble now with the chief judge because
the chief Judge was not in his office, but he
did speak on the phone with members of the arrest team.
Dugan tells SERVERA that she is quote in the doghouse
with the chief judge because she had quote tried to
help that guy, so that guy is obviously a Eduardo
Flores Ruiz. In other words, Dugan admitted to doing the
thing that this trial is all about, the very thing.
Judge SERVERA was mortified that the public defenders thought that
she played some role in. Next on the stand Sheriff's
Office Sergeant David Desmet, a supervisor handling security at the courthouse.
He testified federal agents did not need an escort in
the courthouse, it's a public building. The arrest team was
allowed to be in there, but Dugan said they needed
to be escorted. He also said that he had asked
them not to arrest Flores Ruiz until after his court
hearing so he wouldn't have a failure to appear on
his record. That was beyond his control. He also testified
that Dugan had told him that it's illegal to make
arrests in a courtroom. De Smet testified Dugan told him
it's illegal to arrest people in a courtroom based on
a Supreme Court decision. He said it surprised him and
asked her to cite the case so he could research
it and relay information to deputies. But he never got
anything about that case law because there isn't any so
Dugan lied to him. Judge Servera testified that she allows
arrests to take place in her courtroom. In fact, it
happened several times a week. Also, the arrest team never
tried to make an arrest in Dugan's courtroom, only in
the hallway outside, which is the public area. De Smet
also testified that there was no require firemen for federal
agents to go to the Chief Judge's office either, So
Dugan just lied to multiple people in order to effect
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Dugan up in Milwaukee uh not going well for her.
More testimony that herd her case, particularly the testimony of
the chief Judge, Carl Ashley. He testified that there was
a draft proposal for rules about how to handle ice
arrests in the courthouse, but that proposal had not been
put in place when this happened, and even if it
had been put in place, he testified that judges had
no right to interfere in arrests taking place in the
public hallway of the courthouse, nor did the draft rules
require anybody to visit his office. So again, Dugan just
made all of this up. She lied to the officers,
she lied to her colleague, the other judge servera, she
lied to the.
Speaker 1: Deputy. Just lied all in an effort to help a
criminal defendant escape. Even more damning, the chief judge testified
that he had asked Judge Dugan to call him, sent
her a text message they call me, and then he
changed his mind after deciding it might be better for
her if he actually did not ask her to explain herself.
So after all of this blew up and she got
herself arrested for obstructing the officers. She's ranting and raving
as she's getting put into the back of the cruiser,
and Chief Judge is like, you need to call You
need to give me a call. And then he's like,
on second thought, no, because whatever, if I start asking
you questions, you're going to say stuff that's gonna get
used against you. So let's just not have a conversation
at all. Anything she texted or said could be incriminating.
Then Judge Dugan's clerk took the stand. This guy, Alan Freed,
testified that he was outraged that Ice had shown up
in the courthouse and he called he called one of
the members of the arresting team, called him a fascist.
That's what he said. I called him a fascist. And
then he said I was upset and a little bit outraged.
Oh okay, so that makes it okay. Judge Dougan also
Freed also talked about how case this is how long
they typically take these off the record cases. He said
they're typically heard pretty quickly, but then he admitted that
the case of Eduardo Flores Ruiz that his off the
record case was actually much quicker than most cases. Dugan,
Judge Dugan rushed through the case why to help him
get out the back door. Prosecutors then played the audio
where from Judge Dougan where she mentions sending them down
the stairs, in other words, talking about the defendant and
his attorney to send them down the stairs. Freed confirmed
that Dugan had said that she would get heat for
doing this, so right, that speaks to intent and knowledge
that what you are doing is illegal. You are going
to get in trouble for doing this because what you
are doing is wrong, and you are a judge, so
you can't claim ignorance here. This is malice aforethought, if
you will. Mercedes Dala Rosa then spoke. She was the
defense attorney for Eduardo Flores Ruiz and she says she
never heard Judge Dougan telling her to go down the stairs,
even when they played the audio from the courtroom where
you could hear Judge Dougan telling her that she claims
she didn't hear it. Why, she said, well, my brain
was spinning. It was good Friday, and I didn't have
any food or coffee that day. So apparently if you
have not eaten or had a cup of Joe. You
go death. I guess it's temporary, so that's good news.
But this is news to me. This is a new development.
I'm not aware that if if you are on an
empty stomach, that you lose the ability to hear. So
she's claiming she didn't hear it. But the issue in
the trial isn't what the attorney heard. It's what Judge
Dugan said, and it's what she intended. John Sexton writing
that the audio recording proves her intent was for the
defendant and his attorney to go down the stairs, not
to go out into the hallway. Go down the stairs,
not the hallway. And this brings us to the court reporter.
She was called to the stand. Her name is Joan Butz,
and she testified she had never before her Judge Dugan
tell any attorney to take their client out that non
public door. That door is for judges in the court staff. Okay,
every now and again, maybe an attorney will go back there,
but that door is never for defendants. Butts is the
person who offered to show the attorney and the defendant
how to exit the hallway by the stairs. She explained
there was concern that they might mistakenly take the wrong door,
and if you take the wrong door, you're going to
run into the Ice agents. See. So that's why it
was important tell them to take the stairs. That's why
the judge said that not the hallway, the stairs. She said.
She asked Dugan, this is Butts. Butts asks Dugan if
she needed to show the defense attorney where to go
to find the stairs. Because this attorney was a newer attorney,
there was concern that she would not know which door
to go through. She said, the wrong door was the
door that led into the public hallway, and the door
to the stairs is the right door. In this instance,
the court reporter. Butts testified there was concern about the
defendant and the attorney going out the quote wrong door.
Butts testified that if the attorney and her client went
out the wrong door, they would encounter the ice people.
Butts testified there was concern between her and Dugan that
they could get in trouble if the defendant and his
attorney went out the wrong door. See once again, here's
another example of it, like not my plan, like to
the jury, I'm telling the jury, like if this plan
sounds stupid, we agree, Like as the prosecutor, I would
not have come up with this kind of a plan.
I would not have done it this way, or I
would not have done it at all. But don't hold
it against the prosecutor just because the plan was stupid. Right,
Like all all of the evidence here, I'm really not
sure what kind of a defense they're going to be
able to mount to this. They have the audio recording, right,
They've got all of this other testimony from all of
her colleagues, they got text messages and stuff. It's all
very clear what she did and why. But we'll see
what happens. The defense has time to put on some witnesses.
Don't know if she'll testify herself. Not sure if it
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Earlier in the program, we reported on a plane that
crashed at the Statesville Regional Airport at about ten thirty
or so this morning, and it has now been confirmed
that six died on the plane, including former NASCAR driver
and philanthropist Greg Biffle, along with his wife and his
two children. This is confirmed by Garrett Mitchell, who is
known online as YouTube star Cleatus McFarland. That's his name
on YouTube Mitchell said on a Facebook post that Biffle
and his family were on their way to spend the
afternoon with him. Six people on the Cessna SEE five
five zero fifty that crashed while landing at Statesville Regional Airport,
about forty five miles north of Charlotte, according to the FAA.
You know, obviously all of the investigative agencies are on
the scene now try to piece together what exactly happened.
And as I read earlier, I guess in the first
hour when this news first was breaking that Biffle was
a well known NASCAR driver with over five hundred Cups starts,
he had nineteen wins. He made headlines outside of the
racing world for his incredible efforts to bring help to
those who were devastated by Hurricane Helene in twenty twenty
four out in the mountains of North Carolina and East Tennessee.
The former NASCAR Exfinity and Truck Series champion was also
then making plans and had I guess at this point,
to help provide relief to Jamaica after Hurricane Melissa made landfall.
He is a registered pilot led several expeditions by helicopter
into the mountains of western North Carolina and East Tennessee
following Helene, aiming to help stranded people and deliver aid
to those that were cut off from the rest of
the world by the floods. One of the guys, one
of his friends, and a guy that had helped do
that relief efforts, a guy by the name of Sean Hendrix.
We've had him on the show here to talk about
what they were doing. He posted up onto Twitter, goodbye
Greg Biffle. You made a massive impact on North Carolina
and will not be forgotten. I'll make sure of that.
You and your wife were amazing people. This was the
last time I saw you. He's got a picture of
them receiving an award for their service. I think about
a couple of weeks ago. He says, could have never
dreamed it would be the last time I saw you.
Rest in peace, hero. So it's a sad day. Offer
up your prayers if you are of the praying kind,
to the Biffel family and friends and colleagues and fans too.
He was apparently a big fan favorite in NASCAR. It's
just an awful story. Don't know obviously what caused it,
but does not appear there were any survivors in the crash.
Guarding the topic from the second hour, we were talking
about a House bill that passed yesterday. It was two
sixteen to two eleven vote. Three Democrats crossed over to
support the measure, four Republicans crossed over to vote against
the measure. It's called the Protect Children's Innocence Act, and
it would make it a Class C felony to do
these transiing procedures on minors, surgeries, puberty blockers, that sort
of thing. If enacted, the bill could imprison doctors who
provide such care for up to ten years. And so
I got a bunch of messages about this. I wanted
to come back and and bring you some of them.
This is from a seven oh four number on the
text line, thank you for discussing this trans topic. Folks
never talk about the parents that have children who think
they are a different sex, But it's my hope that
many are. Like my wife and me. We have a
son who grew up in the church, chased girls, liked
dogs and cars. After heading off to college, he met
a girl who was nice on the surface, but she
convinced him that he was really a woman. How does
that happen. He began to take gender drugs, and then
after graduation came out that he wanted to change his
name and was now a girl. All a shock to us.
Apparently he wrote a letter to them. Naturally, we were devastated,
as were his siblings. Some friends we spoke to thought
it was great. Yeah, there's a whole there's a whole
subset here, so many different things going on, like psychologically,
but there's this sort of accessorizing aspect to all of this,
where it's like, look at me, I've got kids that
are trans and so like that reflects well on me
among my peers. Like it's sort of a it's a
virtue signal, you know, like I get some sort of
accessorizing value that this is, like, look what, I'm so
open that my child is going down this path. You know,
it's like a net positive in their mind, and this
is part of the problem going forward. There's a one
of the British actually she's Irish, but she's in Britain
and is a writer and she's become a big women's
rights activist and her name is Helen Joyce and she
gave an interview with Peter but Agosian a couple of
years ago. I played audio of it at the time,
and she gave the analogy of like the Japanese soldiers
that were on the islands that didn't know the war
was over, you know, and she equated them to parents,
because like, if you're a parent and you got on
board with this and you helped your child do this,
Like if it turns out that all of this was
a social contagion, it was actually mental health disorder, and
through psychotherapy, you could have avoided this lifelong you know,
body modification and the problems and costs associated with all
of that. Like, the parents can't ever give up the island.
They can't ever admit that because to do so would
be to admit that they did this horrible thing to
their own child. They can't do it. It's really there's
this topic. This makes me alternately sad and mad. You know,
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Going over some of the text messages regarding the passage
of the House bill, it's titled Protect Children's Innocence Act.
It would criminalize trans procedures on minors. So if doctors
were to do this stuff, puberty blockers, surgeries and stuff
which we are told they don't do. They don't do
that for the children, So then Why would you have
a problem with that law anyway? Don Davis from North
Carolina Democrat that crossed over to vote with Republicans on
that I was reading a text from a parent who
has a son who transitioned to a daughter. He said, naturally,
we were devastated. Some friends we spoke to thought it
was great. We disagreed, and then they quit coming around
because they feel we were not supportive of our son
and calling us transphobic. Others ignored us, quit inviting us
to events, parties, or dinners, and when we did run
into them, they would act as as if we did
not have another child, only asking about the other two.
We stay in contact with our son. We've told him
that we never want to see him go hungry or homeless,
but can never support him with any money, not that
we would have to start with. But he does struggle.
He has a PhD in psychology. Now, of course he does.
I had a buddy of mine in college who was
a psych major. He said, everybody who goes into psychology
as a psych major, they do it to try to
fix themselves, to figure out themselves. But he lives with
a sweet, real attractive girl. Her parents love him, but
that in itself makes me question these people's minds. This
is not normal. But because of our woke society, we
cannot voice our dislike for trans kids or people without
fear of being fired. There are a lot of parents
struggling with what society is doing. Yeah, yeah, I mean
there's a I mean, I mean, what do transgender people
call it when you use their given names? They call
it dead naming, right, and they it's all about them
and their feelings. You're dead naming me, right, But all
of their loved ones they are experiencing sort of a
death as well, right, the person that they knew. I mean,
you're using the term dead naming. There's real grief that
is associated among the loved ones. Let me see, let
me get to some more messages here before the end
of the show. That's already read that one. Here's one
from another seven oh four number. A few years ago,
the Democrat Party forced North Carolina under the threat of
removal of DOJ funding, to raise the age of adult
criminal accountability from sixteen to eighteen. The primary argument was
that the brain of a sixteen or seventeen year old
is so underdeveloped at those ages it inhibits their ability
to reason and make decisions that are rational and appropriate.
Some liberal states extend that age of adult culpability to
twenty six, Yet these same people now vigorously advocate that
children much younger than sixteen have the cognitive and emotional
maturity to make permanent, life altering decisions like removing body
parts and ingesting hormones that will literally change who they are.
So will liberals admit they were wrong? No? No, that
it's one of the democrat privileges. You never have to
admit you were wrong about anything, even though you're wrong
about a lot. Will they admit they were wrong about
raising the age of criminal culpability or are they wrong
about gender mutilation? I mean, they could be wrong about both.
I choose You know it can be both. It's worth
pointing out the UK already recently banned hormone and puberty blockers,
as well as surgery for those under eighteen, and it
is very restrictive in Finland and Sweden as well. This
is not radical, Susie. You are absolutely correct. These European
countries that were way ahead of us going down the
transgender experimental path, they realized within the last two years
or so that like these are not producing better outcomes,
and they are now they've gone to the psychotherapy first
model for kids. See, and that's the thing too, Like
if you're an adult and you want to spend all
of your own money doing this stuff, you know, because
I see people make really bad decisions, you know, face
tattoos for example. It's your body, you know. But there's
a reason why things require parental consent for minors is
because they don't understand the long term ramifications. I just
saw somebody post it up, somebody who they're like, oh,
I just got my let me see if I have
it here. Yeah, it's like I just got my top surgery.
So this is a person that is either getting implants
or or got there. I think it's a female that
had her breasts removed and she posted her bill. Total
fees thirty three thousand, one hundred thirty nine dollars twenty
one cents, So thirty three thousand dollars for the top surgery,
hospital fees, thirty grand, physician fees twenty eight hundred, insurance
covers thirty two thousand, So out of pocket for her
is one thousand five dollars. So you're offloading these costs
onto everybody else. Right. This is why RFK Jr. In
his comments today when announcing these rule changes, like this
has been a windfall, a boon for the medical practices
for hospitals. And this isn't new. We saw the undercover
video that leaked out of I think it was Vanderbilt
Hospital System of the you know, the the chief of whatever,
and she's like, we're making patients for life. Right. They
have a financial incentive to push people down this pathway
because the hospital makes a ton of money in perpetuity.
Let me see here. Oh gosh, this text scroll. It's
like the matrix seth. I can't read them. I can't
read that. It's too small seth right, gender rejecting mutilation. Uh,
you just said half of it right after I texted, right,
mm hmm. Sorry. See when people have I gotta I'm
gonna have to adjust some of these people's names in
this thing because when when when we enter the names,
if you enter the name is too long, then it
creates like this, this matrix kind of stuttering effect. You
might want to announce Independence has traffic lights down due
to a garbage truck hitting it blocked in both directions
Sartist Road North. Uh, you should send that to the
the text line or sorry to the the traffic tip line.
And I already packed up my stuff to clear the studio,
so I don't have the number in front of me.
You know that I don't either. Yeah, I need to
give that out more the traffic tip. By the way,
a new report out of England and Wales, women and
girls are being targeted by sexual predators where in mixed
gender changing rooms across England and Wales. Who would have
ever thought that would happen. When you open up safe
spaces for women to allow men to enter, and you
normalize that, predators take advantage. This was one of my
biggest arguments about the HB two bill and all of
that fight about opening up all of the bathrooms and
changing rooms and lockers and all of this, is that
you normalize the comingling of the sexes and when you
do that, you give more hunting grounds to predators and
lo and behold, here we are. That's what they found
in this report taking place across all of England. All right,
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