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your support. So do you remember that judge up in

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Milwaukee that helped a criminal illegal alien escape arrest and

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deportation by distracting the Ice agents out in the hallway

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and then sending the illegal alien out through a back door.

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Remember that story. Her trial is underway this week John

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Sexton at hot air dot com. He's been following it.

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Her name is Judge Hannah Dugan and it's not going

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well for her in this case. So this is the

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write up, the first righte up. I've got two of

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them here because it's taking place over the course of

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several days here. But as I understand it now, the

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prosecution has now rested and the let me double check

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here just to confirm before I say something that yes,

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the defend of the defense has just four witnesses that

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it could that it says it plans to call today,

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so this thing could be done with closing arguments tomorrow

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and go to the jury. And that's always like I

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don't predict predict election outcomes and I don't predict jury outcomes.

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You never know what a jury is going to do.

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You you know, observers in the courtroom, you think this

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is an air tight case and the jury comes back

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hung or not guilty or something, or you know, vice versa.

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You think, oh, gosh, weak case, and then they come

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back with, you know, guilty on all accounts, like wow,

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And then you always got to keep in mind like

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the time of day, right, this is a week before Christmas.

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If you get the case, if you're the jury, and

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you go back to deliberate, and it's a you know,

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it's like Friday at eleven am. You may you may

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stick around through lunch, get your last free meal kind

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of a thing, but then you know, you want to

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wrap it up in the next five hours so you

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can go home and not have to come back after

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a weekend on a Monday, the Monday before Christmas. Right,

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all of that stuff factors in. That's why I don't

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predict outcomes on this stuff, but I will say the

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case does not appear to be going very well for

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Judge Dugan. So the judge who was with Dugan, there

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was another judge there and her name is Christella Severa. Okay,

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so she was with Judge Dugan because Dugan had asked

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her to come out of her courtroom. I'll get to

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more own more of the details on that in a minute.

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So the judge who was with Dugan confronting the arrest

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team in the hallway took the stand, and her testimony

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did not help right. Judge Severa testified that the courthouse

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is a public building and then anybody is allowed in.

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She said, it's a public building and once they passed

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through security, technically anybody is free to enter the courthouse

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for any reason. She then testified that Judge Dugan had

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summoned her out of her courtroom, which is right next

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to Dugan's courtroom, and Dugan said, hey, come out into

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the hallway to check a warrant. Dugan asked her to

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keep your robe on. Severa said she was uncomfortable with

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this because us she doesn't like she says, I didn't

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want to walk in the hallway with my robe on.

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She said that it conveys authority, and when you're out

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in the hallway, you're not in your courtroom, and so

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you don't have any you know, authority out in the hallway.

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So judges don't wear their robes out in the hallway,

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but in this case, Dugan said, were your robe. Severa

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was uncomfortable with it, but apparently she did it. She

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also confirmed the testimony from earlier that Judge Dugan seemed

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angry or irritated when she spoke to the arrest team.

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Judge Severa said that the federal agent was professional, but

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Dugan could have been more quote diplomatic. Her irritation seemed

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to progress to anger, said Severa. After Judge Dougan told

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the members of the arrest team that they had to

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go to to the Chief Judge's office, Judge Severa walked

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down the hall to show them where to go. So

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Dugan was like, show that you got to go to

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the chief Judge's office. That's down there. Judge Severa, go

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take them down there. Severa walks them down there, turns

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around and realizes that Judge Dugan was gone, Dugan didn't

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follow along. She said she felt abandoned by Dugan when

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she led the federal officials to the Chief Judge's office

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and realized Dugan hadn't followed her. She says, I was amazed,

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I thought she left me. Fast forward later on in

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the day, Severa starts getting emails and texts and stuff

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from several public defense attorneys, public defenders, and she's not

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sure why she's getting all of this these accolades, why

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people are praising her. Why are all these public defenders

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celebrating her, And at first she wasn't sure why. And

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then later she is quote mortified that they thought she

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was trying to help a criminal defendant escape arrest. So

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these public defenders thought she was in on the deception,

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and she was shocked. Maura Gingrich, an attorney who was

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identified as the woman that was taking photos of the

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federal agents in the hallways. Maura Gingrich, who's on the

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witness list, said, we know what you guys are trying

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to do. That's what Gingrich told the judge Severa, we

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know what you guys were trying to do. And Severa's like,

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I wasn't trying to do that. I was just told

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to come out and then escort these guys down to

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the chief Judge. Later that day, Dugan tells SERVERA that

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Dugan is in trouble now with the chief judge because

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the chief Judge was not in his office, but he

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did speak on the phone with members of the arrest team.

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Dugan tells SERVERA that she is quote in the doghouse

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with the chief judge because she had quote tried to

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help that guy, so that guy is obviously a Eduardo

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Flores Ruiz. In other words, Dugan admitted to doing the

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thing that this trial is all about, the very thing.

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Judge SERVERA was mortified that the public defenders thought that

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she played some role in. Next on the stand Sheriff's

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Office Sergeant David Desmet, a supervisor handling security at the courthouse.

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He testified federal agents did not need an escort in

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the courthouse, it's a public building. The arrest team was

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allowed to be in there, but Dugan said they needed

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to be escorted. He also said that he had asked

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them not to arrest Flores Ruiz until after his court

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hearing so he wouldn't have a failure to appear on

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his record. That was beyond his control. He also testified

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that Dugan had told him that it's illegal to make

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arrests in a courtroom. De Smet testified Dugan told him

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it's illegal to arrest people in a courtroom based on

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a Supreme Court decision. He said it surprised him and

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asked her to cite the case so he could research

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it and relay information to deputies. But he never got

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anything about that case law because there isn't any so

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Dugan lied to him. Judge Servera testified that she allows

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arrests to take place in her courtroom. In fact, it

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happened several times a week. Also, the arrest team never

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tried to make an arrest in Dugan's courtroom, only in

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the hallway outside, which is the public area. De Smet

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also testified that there was no require firemen for federal

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agents to go to the Chief Judge's office either, So

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Dugan just lied to multiple people in order to effect

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that'll last a lifetime. But this trial of Judge Hannah

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Dugan up in Milwaukee uh not going well for her.

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More testimony that herd her case, particularly the testimony of

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the chief Judge, Carl Ashley. He testified that there was

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a draft proposal for rules about how to handle ice

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arrests in the courthouse, but that proposal had not been

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put in place when this happened, and even if it

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had been put in place, he testified that judges had

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no right to interfere in arrests taking place in the

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public hallway of the courthouse, nor did the draft rules

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require anybody to visit his office. So again, Dugan just

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made all of this up. She lied to the officers,

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she lied to her colleague, the other judge servera, she

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lied to the.

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Speaker 1: Deputy. Just lied all in an effort to help a

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criminal defendant escape. Even more damning, the chief judge testified

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that he had asked Judge Dugan to call him, sent

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her a text message they call me, and then he

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changed his mind after deciding it might be better for

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her if he actually did not ask her to explain herself.

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So after all of this blew up and she got

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herself arrested for obstructing the officers. She's ranting and raving

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as she's getting put into the back of the cruiser,

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and Chief Judge is like, you need to call You

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need to give me a call. And then he's like,

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on second thought, no, because whatever, if I start asking

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you questions, you're going to say stuff that's gonna get

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used against you. So let's just not have a conversation

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at all. Anything she texted or said could be incriminating.

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Then Judge Dugan's clerk took the stand. This guy, Alan Freed,

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testified that he was outraged that Ice had shown up

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in the courthouse and he called he called one of

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the members of the arresting team, called him a fascist.

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That's what he said. I called him a fascist. And

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then he said I was upset and a little bit outraged.

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Oh okay, so that makes it okay. Judge Dougan also

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Freed also talked about how case this is how long

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they typically take these off the record cases. He said

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they're typically heard pretty quickly, but then he admitted that

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the case of Eduardo Flores Ruiz that his off the

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record case was actually much quicker than most cases. Dugan,

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Judge Dugan rushed through the case why to help him

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get out the back door. Prosecutors then played the audio

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where from Judge Dougan where she mentions sending them down

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the stairs, in other words, talking about the defendant and

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his attorney to send them down the stairs. Freed confirmed

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that Dugan had said that she would get heat for

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doing this, so right, that speaks to intent and knowledge

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that what you are doing is illegal. You are going

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to get in trouble for doing this because what you

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are doing is wrong, and you are a judge, so

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you can't claim ignorance here. This is malice aforethought, if

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you will. Mercedes Dala Rosa then spoke. She was the

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defense attorney for Eduardo Flores Ruiz and she says she

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never heard Judge Dougan telling her to go down the stairs,

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even when they played the audio from the courtroom where

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you could hear Judge Dougan telling her that she claims

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she didn't hear it. Why, she said, well, my brain

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was spinning. It was good Friday, and I didn't have

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any food or coffee that day. So apparently if you

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have not eaten or had a cup of Joe. You

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go death. I guess it's temporary, so that's good news.

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But this is news to me. This is a new development.

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I'm not aware that if if you are on an

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empty stomach, that you lose the ability to hear. So

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she's claiming she didn't hear it. But the issue in

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the trial isn't what the attorney heard. It's what Judge

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Dugan said, and it's what she intended. John Sexton writing

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that the audio recording proves her intent was for the

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defendant and his attorney to go down the stairs, not

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to go out into the hallway. Go down the stairs,

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not the hallway. And this brings us to the court reporter.

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She was called to the stand. Her name is Joan Butz,

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and she testified she had never before her Judge Dugan

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tell any attorney to take their client out that non

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public door. That door is for judges in the court staff. Okay,

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every now and again, maybe an attorney will go back there,

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but that door is never for defendants. Butts is the

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person who offered to show the attorney and the defendant

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how to exit the hallway by the stairs. She explained

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there was concern that they might mistakenly take the wrong door,

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and if you take the wrong door, you're going to

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run into the Ice agents. See. So that's why it

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was important tell them to take the stairs. That's why

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the judge said that not the hallway, the stairs. She said.

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She asked Dugan, this is Butts. Butts asks Dugan if

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she needed to show the defense attorney where to go

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to find the stairs. Because this attorney was a newer attorney,

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there was concern that she would not know which door

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to go through. She said, the wrong door was the

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door that led into the public hallway, and the door

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to the stairs is the right door. In this instance,

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the court reporter. Butts testified there was concern about the

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defendant and the attorney going out the quote wrong door.

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Butts testified that if the attorney and her client went

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out the wrong door, they would encounter the ice people.

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Butts testified there was concern between her and Dugan that

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they could get in trouble if the defendant and his

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attorney went out the wrong door. See once again, here's

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another example of it, like not my plan, like to

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the jury, I'm telling the jury, like if this plan

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sounds stupid, we agree, Like as the prosecutor, I would

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not have come up with this kind of a plan.

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I would not have done it this way, or I

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would not have done it at all. But don't hold

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it against the prosecutor just because the plan was stupid. Right,

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Like all all of the evidence here, I'm really not

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sure what kind of a defense they're going to be

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able to mount to this. They have the audio recording, right,

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They've got all of this other testimony from all of

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her colleagues, they got text messages and stuff. It's all

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very clear what she did and why. But we'll see

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what happens. The defense has time to put on some witnesses.

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Don't know if she'll testify herself. Not sure if it

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Earlier in the program, we reported on a plane that

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crashed at the Statesville Regional Airport at about ten thirty

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or so this morning, and it has now been confirmed

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that six died on the plane, including former NASCAR driver

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and philanthropist Greg Biffle, along with his wife and his

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two children. This is confirmed by Garrett Mitchell, who is

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known online as YouTube star Cleatus McFarland. That's his name

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on YouTube Mitchell said on a Facebook post that Biffle

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and his family were on their way to spend the

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afternoon with him. Six people on the Cessna SEE five

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five zero fifty that crashed while landing at Statesville Regional Airport,

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about forty five miles north of Charlotte, according to the FAA.

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You know, obviously all of the investigative agencies are on

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the scene now try to piece together what exactly happened.

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And as I read earlier, I guess in the first

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hour when this news first was breaking that Biffle was

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a well known NASCAR driver with over five hundred Cups starts,

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he had nineteen wins. He made headlines outside of the

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racing world for his incredible efforts to bring help to

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those who were devastated by Hurricane Helene in twenty twenty

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four out in the mountains of North Carolina and East Tennessee.

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The former NASCAR Exfinity and Truck Series champion was also

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then making plans and had I guess at this point,

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to help provide relief to Jamaica after Hurricane Melissa made landfall.

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He is a registered pilot led several expeditions by helicopter

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into the mountains of western North Carolina and East Tennessee

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following Helene, aiming to help stranded people and deliver aid

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to those that were cut off from the rest of

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the world by the floods. One of the guys, one

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of his friends, and a guy that had helped do

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that relief efforts, a guy by the name of Sean Hendrix.

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We've had him on the show here to talk about

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what they were doing. He posted up onto Twitter, goodbye

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Greg Biffle. You made a massive impact on North Carolina

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and will not be forgotten. I'll make sure of that.

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You and your wife were amazing people. This was the

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last time I saw you. He's got a picture of

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them receiving an award for their service. I think about

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a couple of weeks ago. He says, could have never

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dreamed it would be the last time I saw you.

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Rest in peace, hero. So it's a sad day. Offer

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up your prayers if you are of the praying kind,

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to the Biffel family and friends and colleagues and fans too.

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He was apparently a big fan favorite in NASCAR. It's

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just an awful story. Don't know obviously what caused it,

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but does not appear there were any survivors in the crash.

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Guarding the topic from the second hour, we were talking

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about a House bill that passed yesterday. It was two

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sixteen to two eleven vote. Three Democrats crossed over to

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support the measure, four Republicans crossed over to vote against

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the measure. It's called the Protect Children's Innocence Act, and

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it would make it a Class C felony to do

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these transiing procedures on minors, surgeries, puberty blockers, that sort

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of thing. If enacted, the bill could imprison doctors who

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provide such care for up to ten years. And so

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I got a bunch of messages about this. I wanted

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to come back and and bring you some of them.

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This is from a seven oh four number on the

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text line, thank you for discussing this trans topic. Folks

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never talk about the parents that have children who think

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they are a different sex, But it's my hope that

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many are. Like my wife and me. We have a

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son who grew up in the church, chased girls, liked

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dogs and cars. After heading off to college, he met

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a girl who was nice on the surface, but she

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convinced him that he was really a woman. How does

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that happen. He began to take gender drugs, and then

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after graduation came out that he wanted to change his

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name and was now a girl. All a shock to us.

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Apparently he wrote a letter to them. Naturally, we were devastated,

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as were his siblings. Some friends we spoke to thought

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it was great. Yeah, there's a whole there's a whole

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subset here, so many different things going on, like psychologically,

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but there's this sort of accessorizing aspect to all of this,

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where it's like, look at me, I've got kids that

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are trans and so like that reflects well on me

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among my peers. Like it's sort of a it's a

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virtue signal, you know, like I get some sort of

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accessorizing value that this is, like, look what, I'm so

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open that my child is going down this path. You know,

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it's like a net positive in their mind, and this

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is part of the problem going forward. There's a one

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of the British actually she's Irish, but she's in Britain

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and is a writer and she's become a big women's

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rights activist and her name is Helen Joyce and she

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gave an interview with Peter but Agosian a couple of

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years ago. I played audio of it at the time,

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and she gave the analogy of like the Japanese soldiers

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that were on the islands that didn't know the war

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was over, you know, and she equated them to parents,

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because like, if you're a parent and you got on

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board with this and you helped your child do this,

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Like if it turns out that all of this was

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a social contagion, it was actually mental health disorder, and

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through psychotherapy, you could have avoided this lifelong you know,

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body modification and the problems and costs associated with all

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of that. Like, the parents can't ever give up the island.

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They can't ever admit that because to do so would

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be to admit that they did this horrible thing to

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their own child. They can't do it. It's really there's

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this topic. This makes me alternately sad and mad. You know,

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all right, if you're listening to this show, you know

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I try to keep up with all sorts of current events,

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and I know you do too, And you've probably heard

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me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well,

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because it's how you detect media bias, which is why

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Going over some of the text messages regarding the passage

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of the House bill, it's titled Protect Children's Innocence Act.

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It would criminalize trans procedures on minors. So if doctors

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were to do this stuff, puberty blockers, surgeries and stuff

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which we are told they don't do. They don't do

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that for the children, So then Why would you have

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a problem with that law anyway? Don Davis from North

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Carolina Democrat that crossed over to vote with Republicans on

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that I was reading a text from a parent who

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has a son who transitioned to a daughter. He said, naturally,

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we were devastated. Some friends we spoke to thought it

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was great. We disagreed, and then they quit coming around

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because they feel we were not supportive of our son

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and calling us transphobic. Others ignored us, quit inviting us

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to events, parties, or dinners, and when we did run

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into them, they would act as as if we did

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not have another child, only asking about the other two.

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We stay in contact with our son. We've told him

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that we never want to see him go hungry or homeless,

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but can never support him with any money, not that

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we would have to start with. But he does struggle.

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He has a PhD in psychology. Now, of course he does.

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I had a buddy of mine in college who was

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a psych major. He said, everybody who goes into psychology

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as a psych major, they do it to try to

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fix themselves, to figure out themselves. But he lives with

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a sweet, real attractive girl. Her parents love him, but

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that in itself makes me question these people's minds. This

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is not normal. But because of our woke society, we

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cannot voice our dislike for trans kids or people without

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fear of being fired. There are a lot of parents

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struggling with what society is doing. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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there's a I mean, I mean, what do transgender people

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call it when you use their given names? They call

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it dead naming, right, and they it's all about them

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and their feelings. You're dead naming me, right, But all

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of their loved ones they are experiencing sort of a

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death as well, right, the person that they knew. I mean,

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you're using the term dead naming. There's real grief that

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is associated among the loved ones. Let me see, let

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me get to some more messages here before the end

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of the show. That's already read that one. Here's one

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from another seven oh four number. A few years ago,

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the Democrat Party forced North Carolina under the threat of

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removal of DOJ funding, to raise the age of adult

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criminal accountability from sixteen to eighteen. The primary argument was

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that the brain of a sixteen or seventeen year old

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is so underdeveloped at those ages it inhibits their ability

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to reason and make decisions that are rational and appropriate.

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Some liberal states extend that age of adult culpability to

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twenty six, Yet these same people now vigorously advocate that

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children much younger than sixteen have the cognitive and emotional

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maturity to make permanent, life altering decisions like removing body

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parts and ingesting hormones that will literally change who they are.

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So will liberals admit they were wrong? No? No, that

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it's one of the democrat privileges. You never have to

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admit you were wrong about anything, even though you're wrong

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about a lot. Will they admit they were wrong about

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00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,599
raising the age of criminal culpability or are they wrong

475
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:55,480
about gender mutilation? I mean, they could be wrong about both.

476
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:04,880
I choose You know it can be both. It's worth

477
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,319
pointing out the UK already recently banned hormone and puberty blockers,

478
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as well as surgery for those under eighteen, and it

479
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:13,920
is very restrictive in Finland and Sweden as well. This

480
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,640
is not radical, Susie. You are absolutely correct. These European

481
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,599
countries that were way ahead of us going down the

482
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,759
transgender experimental path, they realized within the last two years

483
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,839
or so that like these are not producing better outcomes,

484
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:39,079
and they are now they've gone to the psychotherapy first

485
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,880
model for kids. See, and that's the thing too, Like

486
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,640
if you're an adult and you want to spend all

487
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,240
of your own money doing this stuff, you know, because

488
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,799
I see people make really bad decisions, you know, face

489
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,200
tattoos for example. It's your body, you know. But there's

490
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,680
a reason why things require parental consent for minors is

491
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,599
because they don't understand the long term ramifications. I just

492
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,559
saw somebody post it up, somebody who they're like, oh,

493
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,000
I just got my let me see if I have

494
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:18,519
it here. Yeah, it's like I just got my top surgery.

495
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,839
So this is a person that is either getting implants

496
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,960
or or got there. I think it's a female that

497
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:35,920
had her breasts removed and she posted her bill. Total

498
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:41,920
fees thirty three thousand, one hundred thirty nine dollars twenty

499
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,480
one cents, So thirty three thousand dollars for the top surgery,

500
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:52,680
hospital fees, thirty grand, physician fees twenty eight hundred, insurance

501
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,960
covers thirty two thousand, So out of pocket for her

502
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:04,480
is one thousand five dollars. So you're offloading these costs

503
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:10,239
onto everybody else. Right. This is why RFK Jr. In

504
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,000
his comments today when announcing these rule changes, like this

505
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:21,239
has been a windfall, a boon for the medical practices

506
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,360
for hospitals. And this isn't new. We saw the undercover

507
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,800
video that leaked out of I think it was Vanderbilt

508
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:34,519
Hospital System of the you know, the the chief of whatever,

509
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:40,119
and she's like, we're making patients for life. Right. They

510
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,840
have a financial incentive to push people down this pathway

511
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,920
because the hospital makes a ton of money in perpetuity.

512
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:58,079
Let me see here. Oh gosh, this text scroll. It's

513
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:05,239
like the matrix seth. I can't read them. I can't

514
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:12,079
read that. It's too small seth right, gender rejecting mutilation. Uh,

515
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,199
you just said half of it right after I texted, right,

516
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,599
mm hmm. Sorry. See when people have I gotta I'm

517
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,280
gonna have to adjust some of these people's names in

518
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000
this thing because when when when we enter the names,

519
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,159
if you enter the name is too long, then it

520
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:35,920
creates like this, this matrix kind of stuttering effect. You

521
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,239
might want to announce Independence has traffic lights down due

522
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,039
to a garbage truck hitting it blocked in both directions

523
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,000
Sartist Road North. Uh, you should send that to the

524
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,599
the text line or sorry to the the traffic tip line.

525
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,159
And I already packed up my stuff to clear the studio,

526
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,760
so I don't have the number in front of me.

527
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,679
You know that I don't either. Yeah, I need to

528
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,480
give that out more the traffic tip. By the way,

529
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,599
a new report out of England and Wales, women and

530
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:09,760
girls are being targeted by sexual predators where in mixed

531
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,360
gender changing rooms across England and Wales. Who would have

532
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,360
ever thought that would happen. When you open up safe

533
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,719
spaces for women to allow men to enter, and you

534
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,800
normalize that, predators take advantage. This was one of my

535
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,159
biggest arguments about the HB two bill and all of

536
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,760
that fight about opening up all of the bathrooms and

537
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,119
changing rooms and lockers and all of this, is that

538
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:38,800
you normalize the comingling of the sexes and when you

539
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,760
do that, you give more hunting grounds to predators and

540
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,760
lo and behold, here we are. That's what they found

541
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,079
in this report taking place across all of England. All right,

542
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,440
that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

543
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545
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549
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