Speaker 1: All right, let's get it. It is drivetime. So Thursday afternoon,
Speaker 1: it's about ten minutes past the hour of two o'clock.
Speaker 1: A little warmer today than it was yesterday. Nonetheless, still
Speaker 1: a little chili. It's about fifty five degrees cloudy here
Speaker 1: in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah.
Speaker 2: Conditions will improve throughout the course.
Speaker 1: Of the week into a pretty decent Saturday and maybe
Speaker 1: a little chili Sunday.
Speaker 2: But look, Thursday, you're almost there.
Speaker 1: Weekend is almost upon us, and as it is every
Speaker 1: single day, it's gonna have you long for the ride.
Speaker 1: Spence check, it's being behind the mic. That's Port Larson
Speaker 1: behind the glass today with a bunch of topics to tackle.
Speaker 1: A bunch of topics to get to PGA Championship Round one.
Speaker 1: Quail Hollow Golf Club and Charlotte, North Carolina. Big Stories,
Speaker 1: Jordan's speeth chasing the Queer Grand Slam. Jordan is not
Speaker 1: one on the PGA Tour for quite some time, and
Speaker 1: can Rory McElroy win back to back majors. Something happened
Speaker 1: today at the PGA Championship that you may never see again.
Speaker 3: Real quick.
Speaker 1: Tony Fenaw is one hunder par our local golfer in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse with a seventy, which is a solid score
Speaker 1: and puts.
Speaker 2: Him in the top thirty. See what he can do tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But on sixteen, the three best golfers in the world
Speaker 1: all double bogie. Scottie Scheffler Xander Schaffle as well as
Speaker 1: the aforementioned Rory McElroy carted double bogies each on the
Speaker 1: sixteenth hole. So we have a major going on right
Speaker 1: now in the world of professional golf. As of today,
Speaker 1: it is one hundred days until week zero. You guys know,
Speaker 1: I love the countdown for college football. One hundred days away.
Speaker 1: College football will be here before you know what. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do some college football on the program today, and
Speaker 1: of course, the NBA Playoffs roll along a couple of
Speaker 1: duds last night, though, the Nick Scott Dog walks by
Speaker 1: the Celtics without Jason Tatum, and the Minnesota Timberwolves sent
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors home as well. He Wolves advance
Speaker 1: to the Western Conference Finals for the second straight year,
Speaker 1: and the New York Knicks will have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: eliminate the Boston Celtics tomorrow at six o'clock Mountain time
Speaker 1: at the world's most famous arena in Madison Square Garden
Speaker 1: in Mintown, Manhattan, New York, has been installed as a
Speaker 1: slight two point five point favorite. In that game tonight,
Speaker 1: Denver tries to stay alive. It's a new day and
Speaker 1: age in the world of pro basketball. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that coming up in a bit. Denver up against it.
Speaker 1: They're at home at Ball Arena. Okay, see, we'll try
Speaker 1: to advance to the Western Conference Finals for the first
Speaker 1: time since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: It's only one game tonight. We're approaching the.
Speaker 1: Finish line when it comes to multiple games almost every
Speaker 1: single night in the world odd professional basketball, which is
Speaker 1: always sad.
Speaker 2: Jordan Speed, by.
Speaker 1: The way, is one over. It just showed his score.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if Jordan can make this interesting this weekend.
Speaker 1: So a lot to do on the prom the latest.
Speaker 1: With the offseason for the Utah Jazz, probably time to
Speaker 1: start looking concretely at what could be available for the
Speaker 1: Jazz at five, as opposed to just crying that they
Speaker 1: didn't move up.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to some of the prospects.
Speaker 1: That we might need to become familiar with prior to
Speaker 1: June twenty fifth, when the NBA draft is held, of course,
Speaker 1: just a couple of days after that, the NHL Draft
Speaker 1: will go down to the Utah Hockey Club, in their
Speaker 1: first year of existence, received luck that the Jazz have
Speaker 1: not received in fifty years of existence. Utah Hockey Club
Speaker 1: will draft fourth overall, so we'll get to some offseason
Speaker 1: hockey as well. Stanley Cup playoffs going around. It was
Speaker 1: a great game last night, but Edmonton eliminated the Vegas
Speaker 1: Golden Knights in overtime. One zero your final score there,
Speaker 1: but at least there was a goal because RSL cannot
Speaker 1: seem to find the back of the net. It was
Speaker 1: watching paint dry last night as Portland was in town. Yes,
Speaker 1: it draws better than a loss, but neither team really
Speaker 1: threatened quite frankly. I mean, Rapacabral had a couple of
Speaker 1: saves at the end, but RSL with a scoreless draw.
Speaker 1: And now they hit the road. It's time for the
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain Cup. I know you guys are pumped. RSL
Speaker 1: Colorado Saturday at seven point thirty on MLS Season passed
Speaker 1: on Apple Television.
Speaker 2: So a lot to do on the program today.
Speaker 1: Schedule release day in pro football has a lot of
Speaker 1: football fans extremely excited. Probably won't do anything on that today,
Speaker 1: but hey, now you know who your favorite NFL team
Speaker 1: is going to play right out of the gates or
Speaker 1: out the course of the season. Our first guest today
Speaker 1: will be Tony Jones. Tony wrote a really good piece
Speaker 1: on what the Jazz have in front of them now
Speaker 1: that we know that it's the number five pick overall.
Speaker 1: He's also covering the Denver Nuggets. So we will do
Speaker 1: some playoffs with Tony. We'll do some jazz and some
Speaker 1: draft with Tony right out of the gates today. Alema Harrington,
Speaker 1: my guy a train who at this point has been
Speaker 1: doing jazz pre affro post on TV for a number
Speaker 1: of year. Alema has done a little bit of everything
Speaker 1: in media. He was even on sports talk radio radio
Speaker 1: for a while. Of course, play college football at BYU,
Speaker 1: So do some college football.
Speaker 2: We'll do some.
Speaker 1: We'll do some jazz with a Lemma, and then we'll
Speaker 1: get alemas take on Brian Santiago, who was introduced as
Speaker 1: the athletic director at BYU yesterday during that press conference.
Speaker 2: So Alema will stop by then.
Speaker 1: It's been a minute since we've been able to catch
Speaker 1: up with our buddy Zach Harper from the Athletic He'll
Speaker 1: stop by for some NBA Daily Assist stuff. We'll do
Speaker 1: some sports core with our friends from Handy and Handy,
Speaker 1: and we'll go from there on a jam pack busy
Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the radio program. Tony Jones, Alema Harrington,
Speaker 1: Zach Harper, our friends from Handy and Handy, Me Spence Check.
Speaker 1: It's all of you, the great listeners, and that guy
Speaker 1: Porter Larson. What up on a Thursday afternoon, Boston eight
Speaker 1: and two without Tatum?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I was watching after the show, rushed home so I
Speaker 1: could watch as much of the game as I could,
Speaker 1: and I made sure to tag the pregame stuff so
Speaker 1: I could watch with a coach or coaches were saying
Speaker 1: prior to the start of the game. Joe Mizula said
Speaker 1: something that caught me completely off guard. He said, we
Speaker 1: feel horrible with what happened with JT meaning Jason Tatum,
Speaker 1: but we have a very interesting schematic opportunity. Now he
Speaker 1: didn't elaborate, but when you watch the way they played
Speaker 1: last night, like Jalen Brown's a bit of an ISO player,
Speaker 1: but Tatum is the only.
Speaker 2: Ball stopper on that team.
Speaker 1: They moved the ball really well, and obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of this has to do with what the Knicks did
Speaker 1: not do, but no part of me is confident this
Speaker 1: thing is over after watching what happened last night.
Speaker 4: Well and what Joe Mizzoula is alluding to, if not
Speaker 4: something very specific, right, maybe not like a specific play
Speaker 4: or scheme they're going to run. It's more so the
Speaker 4: fact that you just you don't. You have ten games
Speaker 4: of tape on the Celtics without Jason Tatum. You look
Speaker 4: back on all their runs, the way they play is
Speaker 4: with Jason Tatum. That's something you have to adjust to
Speaker 4: as a basketball team, and we're going to I'll see
Speaker 4: if Tom Thibodeau can do. So. I still spence like,
Speaker 4: I understand that logic and as a coach, you're always
Speaker 4: gonna look for those silver linings, and I do agree
Speaker 4: there are some schematic advantages to it, but at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, there is no net benefit, no
Speaker 4: net positive to losing your six foot nine best perimeter
Speaker 4: wing on your roster. So you know, at that point
Speaker 4: the Knicks just have to show up and at the
Speaker 4: end of the day not lose three straight and then
Speaker 4: they'll get out of there, and I think they're capable
Speaker 4: of doing so even if there is, you know, a
Speaker 4: little adjustment to no Tatum Celtics.
Speaker 2: I hope you're right, man. I feel like they have
Speaker 2: to win tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I do too.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 1: I will be I haven't no, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: have not nervous watched a game in maybe years. And
Speaker 1: if they go to Boston for Game seven, I will
Speaker 1: be a wreck.
Speaker 4: I am not built for Game seven like I will be.
Speaker 4: I will be beside myself. I'll be in stitches. But
Speaker 4: I kind of think j Jalen Rudson mckel Bridges, those
Speaker 4: guys kind of seem like they're built for it.
Speaker 5: So hey, I don't know, let's do it. I hope
Speaker 5: you're right.
Speaker 1: I'm just watching these series through the eyes of man.
Speaker 2: I just hope Jazz fans have this opportunity soon.
Speaker 1: It's so fun watching the team you love play playoff basketball.
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's going to be back, hopefully soon.
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Speaker 1: A couple of games last night, we saw the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Timberwolves advance to the Western Conference Finals for the second
Speaker 1: straight year. Minnesota is one of those cities a little
Speaker 1: bit like Salt Lake, where it's kind of been long
Speaker 1: suffering waiting for a team to win a championship. And
Speaker 1: obviously they have Pro football and Pro baseball, but I
Speaker 1: think it was the ringer that sent out the stat Minnesota.
Speaker 1: The Timberwolves are now in the Final four for back
Speaker 1: to back seasons, and it's the first Minnesota team to
Speaker 1: do that since like nineteen eighty two, and I think
Speaker 1: it was their hockey team that actually did it back
Speaker 1: in the day. So the city of Minnesota celebrating watching
Speaker 1: their team go to the Western Conference finals, and I
Speaker 1: just couldn't help but be struck watching Stephen Curry on
Speaker 1: the bench, you know, kind of watch the whole thing unfold.
Speaker 1: Like we were talking earlier about how the Celtics seemed
Speaker 1: to be built with depth and top end talent to
Speaker 1: overcome the loss of really any of their players, even
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, who's awesome.
Speaker 2: I love Tatum, He's a great player.
Speaker 1: Boston looks connected still, Golden State looks lost without Stephen Curry.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the deal was this series
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler, who just never was fully engaged and
Speaker 1: never fully got involved. He's a former Timberwolf. He got
Speaker 1: booed every time he touched the ball. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that dissuaded him from being a dominant offensive player
Speaker 1: and they needed him to be. Without Stephan Curry, their
Speaker 1: only chance was Jimmy Butler to look like Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: did two years ago when he almost single handily took
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat to the NBA Finals. But he was
Speaker 1: you know, last night was about Brandon Pajemski and Jonathan Kaminga.
Speaker 2: They were the only two Warriors. They were even kind
Speaker 2: of aggressive.
Speaker 1: Moses Moody gave them some good, good minutes, you know,
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter off the bench, but the game
Speaker 1: was essentially over by then. Draymond was okay. Defensively, he
Speaker 1: was who he usually is. But this is to me,
Speaker 1: this loss really is something you look at with Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler and like, dude, where were you of eleven?
Speaker 2: Was not aggressive at all?
Speaker 1: And Minnesota, as we've talked about, has a ton of big,
Speaker 1: physical wings that are two way guys that.
Speaker 2: Can cause a lot of issues.
Speaker 1: But my bigger takeaway is are we done watching Stephen
Speaker 1: Curry play basketball in the spring late into the spring.
Speaker 1: Will we ever see another long Steph Curry run in
Speaker 1: NBA playoff basketball. You know, it's kind of interesting when
Speaker 1: you consider who's at home now and even if you
Speaker 1: look at what could happen tonight, I'm not riding off
Speaker 1: the Nuggets yet. I would not do that with a
Speaker 1: generational player like Nicola Jokic, but it would be difficult
Speaker 1: for Denver to win the next two games to send
Speaker 1: okayc home. So if Denver is not able to make
Speaker 1: a pretty remarkable comeback, Jokic will be out, Stephan Curry
Speaker 1: will be out, Kawhi Leonard is out, Lebron James is out.
Speaker 1: Like this is the changing of the guard officially in
Speaker 1: the world of professional basketball.
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant didn't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I mean, all of the old guard that we become
Speaker 1: accustomed to watching dominate the NBA this time of year,
Speaker 1: they're all done, most of them at least, and we
Speaker 1: could see a couple of them go home as well.
Speaker 2: So now it's the arrival of one Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: And it's not like ant is new on the scene,
Speaker 1: but it does feel like Minnesota has something that maybe
Speaker 1: nobody was given them a lot of credit for. I
Speaker 1: will give I think it was McMahon. It may have
Speaker 1: been mcminiman, one of our NBA guys. A couple of
Speaker 1: weeks left in the regular season, the conversation of the
Speaker 1: NBA is do we even need the playoffs or is it.
Speaker 2: Just going to be Oklahoma City and Boston in the finals.
Speaker 1: And it may have been Dave who said, watch watch
Speaker 1: out for Minnesota as they get fully healthy and has
Speaker 1: they become accustomed to playing with each other. That's a
Speaker 1: team that has a lot of what you need. They're
Speaker 1: really well coached, as I referenced, in the modern day
Speaker 1: and age of NBA basketball, and this is something the
Speaker 1: Jazz have to find.
Speaker 2: They don't have it right now.
Speaker 1: And if we're honest, they didn't really have it with
Speaker 1: Donovan and Rudy and that team because Mike Conley is
Speaker 1: six to one Donovan sixty three. When you look at Minnesota,
Speaker 1: it just our starting lineup they do. And by the way,
Speaker 1: let's give Mike Conley some love today, former Jazz man
Speaker 1: who was awesome last night. Sixteen points, eight assists, six rebounds,
Speaker 1: knocked down four of six threes, hit like a thirty footer.
Speaker 1: When Mike looks like that for them, it makes them different, okay,
Speaker 1: But outside of Mike who's six to one, Aunt is
Speaker 1: six to six, Julius Randall is six', Nine jade McDaniels
Speaker 1: is six 's, eight and obviously Go bear is seven to.
Speaker 1: Two like they have a huge team that makes it
Speaker 1: really problematic for a team like The.
Speaker 2: Warriors who's best big.
Speaker 1: Is Kevon looney who half the time looks like he's
Speaker 1: lost and he's never played basketball. Before and off the,
Speaker 1: Bench Nas reed is six,' Ten Nikhil alexander walker, Six'
Speaker 1: five dante divincenzo's, only sixty three but. He plays big
Speaker 1: he's a. Good rebounding guard love the competitive spare. With
Speaker 1: that kid and we Need To give julius randall a
Speaker 1: little bit of credit because As as, a Nick Fan
Speaker 1: watching julius randall be a black hole over and over
Speaker 1: and over and Essentially Be the Achilles heel for nick
Speaker 1: teams in the past when. They traded him i'm not a.
Speaker 1: Huge cat guy We'll get. To Cat Later but julius
Speaker 1: randall and, his efficiency numbers they've nearly Been tripled for
Speaker 1: minnesota then what it Was. With, the knicks now The
Speaker 1: caveat is minnesota has ant and for, The Most part
Speaker 1: julius randall was relied upon to be the main offensive
Speaker 1: cod for JUST an. Average nick team so he has
Speaker 1: better teammates than he did for the Most Part.
Speaker 2: In new york but he has caught me.
Speaker 1: Completely Off guard now ant is, their best player But
Speaker 1: At times julius randall has looked like. Their, best player,
Speaker 1: so you Know if You're Minnesota and tim conley, their
Speaker 1: general manager a lot of people were surprised they Moved.
Speaker 1: On from cat now they had some financial implications they
Speaker 1: had to, keep in mind and a lot of people
Speaker 1: were surprised they Could only Parlay Cat into Julius Randall.
Speaker 1: And dante DiVincenzo he took a lot of heat, for
Speaker 1: the trade but it looks like, it's worked out at,
Speaker 1: least So far because dante last night, was really good
Speaker 1: although he struggled a little bit throughout. The Postseason, run but,
Speaker 1: randall my goodness has been a. Total total beast now on,
Speaker 1: the other side it could be one of the trades
Speaker 1: that works out.
Speaker 2: For both teams so last night was Not a.
Speaker 1: Great cat game he, had nineteen points he, had eight
Speaker 1: rebounds but he did not look like he, was you, know.
Speaker 2: You know as engaged as. He has been he's had.
Speaker 1: A good playoffs he's actually played better in THE playoffs
Speaker 1: than i was expecting. Him to play one of the
Speaker 1: things that bade me a little bit nervous about That
Speaker 1: trade is cat is a Little, bit like donovan where
Speaker 1: when the moment is the biggest they don't seem. To
Speaker 1: meet it but when it comes to the flow of
Speaker 1: just a game where there's not a, lot at stake
Speaker 1: when you're just kind of playing, in, the first, second
Speaker 1: third quarters they put. Up Big numbers but kat's been
Speaker 1: pretty Good. For the knicks he wasn't. Great Last night
Speaker 1: my man ogn andob he could not. Hit a shot
Speaker 1: one of twelve mckel bridge is. Four or fourteen boston and.
Speaker 1: THEIR defensive effort i don't know Who The hell luke cornett.
Speaker 1: THINKS he, is i mean He Looked. Like Bill russell
Speaker 1: my man had. Seven block Shots I'll give joe missoula
Speaker 1: a ton of credit For realizing. THE kristaps porzingis i
Speaker 1: don't know what's Going on with there's been this illness
Speaker 1: thing that kept him out of Eight.
Speaker 2: Games in march he does, not look right could not.
Speaker 1: Make a shot he had a Single point and, missoula,
Speaker 1: was like fine if you're not going, to be engaged.
Speaker 1: You're not playing in, Twenty Six minutes luke cornett went
Speaker 1: five to Five. From the florid he, had ten, points
Speaker 1: nine rebounds and. Seven, block shots like who? Is this
Speaker 1: dude he changed the scope Of everything for. Boston last
Speaker 1: night and ultimately this comes down to the System Of,
Speaker 1: The BOSTON celtics, and i said to, start the, series
Speaker 1: you know to, start the series there's gonna be One
Speaker 1: game where boston goes like twenty of forty from three
Speaker 1: And beats the. Knicks by thirty well that game. Was
Speaker 1: last night there were twenty two of forty. Nine from
Speaker 1: three They beat the knicks. By twenty five they are
Speaker 1: plus ninety in the series from the. Three point line
Speaker 1: but really it was their intense defensive effort that caught me.
Speaker 1: Mostly off guard even though they have some, good defensive
Speaker 1: players they just looked More Engaged, without JASON tatum which
Speaker 1: i think caught a lot of. People off Guard so
Speaker 1: the knicks go Back to the garden tomorrow night to
Speaker 1: see if They can send celtics home and Go To
Speaker 1: The eastern conference finals for the first time since the
Speaker 1: year two thousand that year They Played, the indiana pacers
Speaker 1: and It Is the indiana pacers awaiting the winner of
Speaker 1: this Series For The.
Speaker 2: Eastern conference. Finals all right.
Speaker 1: Coming up on, the Other side the jazz will. Draft
Speaker 1: at five they also have twenty one and they have
Speaker 1: some decisions to.
Speaker 2: Make this offseason we'll do some Jazz Basketball.
Speaker 1: With tony jones we'll also preview Tonight's game BETWEEN denver
Speaker 1: and Okc on a thursday afternoon Where They've got tony
Speaker 1: Jones FROM. The athletic tj where, are?
Speaker 2: You at man?
Speaker 7: How you?
Speaker 2: Doing?
Speaker 3: What's up man?
Speaker 7: How you doing where are?
Speaker 2: You right Now?
Speaker 7: I'm, In denver okay. I'm the NUGGET that's.
Speaker 1: What i THOUGHT that's. What i thought and. We'll get there.
Speaker 1: We'll Get there but i've got, to ask you how
Speaker 1: confident are you right now in the Ability Of The
Speaker 1: new york knicks to get one of.
Speaker 2: The next two.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty, Nervous? About tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Okay, ALL right YEAH i, mean, i, said oh yeah?
Speaker 7: Are, You nervous no.
Speaker 1: I'M Always, Nervous i look i'd Be nervous if Boston
Speaker 1: was Without Tatum. AND jalen, BROWN i MEAN i have
Speaker 1: i have lived my life. With, this Team uh and
Speaker 1: i've seen it way too MANY times where i get
Speaker 1: super excited and they completely.
Speaker 2: Let Me Down so i'm i'm forever a NERVOUS.
Speaker 7: Nick, fan tj, yeah, IT'S uh yeah i just we
Speaker 7: just need one forty eight minutes get out. Of the
Speaker 7: series we don't get. It done tomorrow sunday is gonna. Be,
Speaker 7: really hard.
Speaker 2: YES it will i can't even think.
Speaker 1: About that yet BUT here's what i wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you and kind of tap into. YOUR basketball knowledge i
Speaker 1: LAST night after i, signed off air RUSHED home so
Speaker 1: i could get get, to THE game and i made
Speaker 1: made it a point to tag the PREGAME stuff so
Speaker 1: i could listen to The coaches and missoula said something
Speaker 1: to completely smack me, across the face, and, he said
Speaker 1: look we're all gutted about What Happened, with jason tatum
Speaker 1: but it does give us. A schematic opportunity what do you, think,
Speaker 1: he meant.
Speaker 7: Well schematic opportunity To Get getting luke cornette. On the floor, and,
Speaker 7: you know uh he, provided rem protection but you know
Speaker 7: he's also provided uh. A LOB threat and i thought
Speaker 7: that that. Was really big and you know they did
Speaker 7: some you know they did. Some, matchup changes, uh you
Speaker 7: know they They Went with jaylen Brown On. On, jalen
Speaker 7: brunson uh they They Threw uh derek. Kwhite into help
Speaker 7: but the, biggest, schematic change Uh They put Drew Holliday On.
Speaker 7: Karl anthony towns, AND you know i know people, are,
Speaker 7: thinking like yeah. That's a mismatch. That's a mismatch but
Speaker 7: we All know that kat. Loves the perimeter so the thinking,
Speaker 7: with that, was you know he squeezes off the perimeter
Speaker 7: and you know he fights his tail off in the
Speaker 7: paint and You know, if kat goes you know, into
Speaker 7: the post then they just lived with. Some contested twoes
Speaker 7: so they did some, pretty dramatic matchups which, is last,
Speaker 7: night you know and You Know obviously derek white, got
Speaker 7: really hot had, thirty four points and, Then You, know jaylen,
Speaker 7: brown you, know got hot you know in. The second,
Speaker 7: half you, know but yeah we gotta get it. Done
Speaker 7: tomorrow night we just just have to, just you know
Speaker 7: grind for forty eight minutes and get. This, series, Finished
Speaker 7: yeah no.
Speaker 1: I'm with, you you know, it's just man when when
Speaker 1: you look At, the way Boston, even without tatum is
Speaker 1: able to space the floor that.
Speaker 2: Five out stuff it doesn't really change.
Speaker 1: All That much and tatum is really the only ball
Speaker 1: stopper they have. On the, ROSTER and Look, i love
Speaker 1: tatum that's, not a Criticism but without, Tatum, out there,
Speaker 1: tony to me it felt like the ball was just
Speaker 1: moving in a way that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't does, That, make, SENSE.
Speaker 7: No absolutely i mean it. Does make sense, and you
Speaker 7: know the, thing is, that You Know, without jason tatum
Speaker 7: you know YOU kind, of i mean You Obviously know
Speaker 7: jaln brown's going to take a, lot of shots but
Speaker 7: it because the offense becomes a lot. More equal opportunity and,
Speaker 7: you you know if you do something like that hits
Speaker 7: in the middle, of a series you don't necessarily have a,
Speaker 7: chance to, really you know scout for it and, prepare
Speaker 7: for it, especially you know by. The next game, and
Speaker 7: you know so the the what the nick have to
Speaker 7: take into, Tomorrow, is that okay. Now there's Film now
Speaker 7: the celtics have put what they're Gonna Do without jason.
Speaker 7: Tatum on film now you have to prepare. In that way,
Speaker 7: so you Know It's on tom thibodeau and his staff
Speaker 7: to come up with, the necessary adjustments uh to kind
Speaker 7: of counter some of the movement and some of The
Speaker 7: sets that boston hit Them with. On wednesday, night all.
Speaker 1: Right let's move over to the other game, from last
Speaker 1: night and then we'll get a preview of the. Game
Speaker 1: you're covering then we'll spend the remaining portion of the
Speaker 1: Conversation About the Utah jazz t wolves get it done,
Speaker 1: one twenty, one one ten and for the, Second straight
Speaker 1: year minnesota Is In The.
Speaker 2: WESTERN conference finals, i was waiting.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's Not realistic because minnesota has, so many.
Speaker 1: BIG physical wings i was Just Waiting for jimmy butler
Speaker 1: to kind of take over the way that we've seen
Speaker 1: him do, in the playoffs often in a couple, of
Speaker 1: years ago when He essentially carried miami to the finals,
Speaker 1: almost single handedly and that never. Came to, fruition of
Speaker 1: course it's Interesting to watch boston play So connected without
Speaker 1: tatum And To watch golden state is So, confused without
Speaker 1: steph which. Isn't a surprise but your Takeaways from watching
Speaker 1: Minnesota Dispatch of golden state, In, FIVE games.
Speaker 7: Oh i mean. You said It you know jimmy's not gonna.
Speaker 7: GET his, game i mean you know he's not going
Speaker 7: to get his Game off against. Minnesota like that you
Speaker 7: know that team has way too many guys and way too.
Speaker 7: MANY different, guys i, mean you Start Especially without stephen,
Speaker 7: curry out there which would Have taken. Away jade McDaniels
Speaker 7: but Now, with no, Curry you know jade McDaniels Switches
Speaker 7: on to jimmy as. A primary defender he's, six foot
Speaker 7: ten he's got a seven seven foot, three wings fan,
Speaker 7: and he's long, and he's wiry and he's a Dog just.
Speaker 7: Like jimmy, is you know there was no physical Advantage.
Speaker 7: There for jimmy, and then okay, so you know let's
Speaker 7: go and switch through. Out, the lineup okay, so you
Speaker 7: know you're Switching On, to anthony edwards who's, a dog
Speaker 7: defensively or you're Switching On, to julius randall, who's you
Speaker 7: know as physically strong as anybody. On the, floor, all
Speaker 7: right well let's try Our Hand. With rudy, gobert you
Speaker 7: know we All Know that rudy gobert is a lot
Speaker 7: better in space than people try to make. Make it sink,
Speaker 7: so you know the only real matchup, is you know
Speaker 7: kind Of Going after mike colley, a little Bit But
Speaker 7: if mike colley is not, on the Floor, That Means
Speaker 7: nikhail Alexander walker Or dante di vincenzo's, on the floor,
Speaker 7: and you know. You get it the. List goes on
Speaker 7: it's on and. On and on minnesota has so many guys,
Speaker 7: who can defend and so many guys, who are switchable, who,
Speaker 7: are long lengthy athletic and just. Really, tough guys, So
Speaker 7: you know jimmy just wasn't going to dominate that series
Speaker 7: against those. Kind of matchups maybe if he was Playing,
Speaker 7: against the, lakers you know it's, a different, Thing you
Speaker 7: know but as a number One Guy without stephen curry
Speaker 7: on the floor to to draw spacing, and draw gravity
Speaker 7: that just wasn't going to, be You Know a jimmy
Speaker 7: butler series to where you know we're looking and, he's
Speaker 7: you know throwing up thirty five and forty. Points to
Speaker 7: night that just.
Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna happen do you think we will ever See
Speaker 1: a deep spring Playoff Run involving?
Speaker 2: STEPH curry again.
Speaker 7: I. MEAN there's, potential i mean he hasn't, really slowed.
Speaker 7: Down you know so, what You Know, what mike dunlevy,
Speaker 7: the general manager has to do is figure out how
Speaker 7: to build, Around you Know. Steph and jimmy it's the
Speaker 7: same same thing, That You know robs Lincoln Down in
Speaker 7: los angeles. Has to, do you know you you you
Speaker 7: have the tape, of this, year you know not going
Speaker 7: to the off season to see what you have To
Speaker 7: do Around. Lebron and luca, so you know it's it's
Speaker 7: it's not with it's not out of the. Realm of
Speaker 7: possibility You Know that golden state, could you Know win
Speaker 7: the west OR win another Nba Championship because steph Curry Is.
Speaker 7: Still steph curry but they, definitely have, to you know
Speaker 7: go and get some spacing and build some some guys Around.
Speaker 7: HIM and jimmy i, think they, have you know the
Speaker 7: two most important, pieces in place and they just have
Speaker 7: to kind of try to build On.
Speaker 2: That interesting tony before we.
Speaker 1: Get to tonight, as Of, now No, giannis No, dame No,
Speaker 1: lebron No, steph No, durant NO kawhi, no PG, thirteen
Speaker 1: no Mbd And. NO anthony davis i could keep going
Speaker 1: and Then, We've got Aunt, we've got halliburton Hopefully We'll.
Speaker 1: Have jalen, bronson Of course the boston guys have BEEN.
Speaker 1: There before sga are we kind of finally seeing maybe
Speaker 1: officially the change.
Speaker 2: In pro basketball from the old guard TO the.
Speaker 7: New i don't think it's so much OF that as
Speaker 7: i think we're seeing the CHANGE from the cba to
Speaker 7: where the teams that are going to advance in the
Speaker 7: playoffs are the teams that have a, bunch of guys not.
Speaker 7: Just three guys so You, look at, indiana you know
Speaker 7: they don't have a guy that, we'll, be like yeah that's.
Speaker 7: That's the guy they. Got ten, guys you know they
Speaker 7: have ten guys who you can throw on the floor
Speaker 7: credibly in. A playoff series that's the reason Why, they
Speaker 7: Beat cleveland because cleveland. Had Seven Guys if Oklahoma, city
Speaker 7: beats denver it's because they have nine guys that they
Speaker 7: could play. In this, Series right now denver has five
Speaker 7: guys that they can play. In this series, they're playing
Speaker 7: seven they're putting seven, on the floor but they only
Speaker 7: have five for a real. Actual playoff players Same. Thing
Speaker 7: with minnesota minnesota's got nine. To ten, guys you know
Speaker 7: the only team that's remaining that doesn't have nine or
Speaker 7: Ten Guys. Is new york so it's not a shift
Speaker 7: from you Know the old Guard because if steph, had
Speaker 7: you know as deep a team as In, the as,
Speaker 7: indiana you know they would have the same chance of going.
Speaker 7: To the finals Same. Thing with lebron so it's not
Speaker 7: a change for the old guard Because, the old, guard
Speaker 7: you know, by and large those guys are, still you
Speaker 7: know in the top ten. In the, League you know
Speaker 7: lebron's still a. Top ten player steph McCurry is still a.
Speaker 7: Top ten player it's THIS. With the cba you gotta,
Speaker 7: have depth now and you got to. Have quality depth
Speaker 7: and if you don't, have quality depth, then you know
Speaker 7: at this point, in all likelihood with so many possessions,
Speaker 7: in a game you're probably Gonna, go home.
Speaker 1: Earland all right moving, Over To tonight oklahoma city is.
Speaker 1: Getting five points the line opened up at four and
Speaker 1: a half and it's Moved. Towards ok see they're a
Speaker 1: five point Favorite tonight in denver and obviously, if they.
Speaker 1: Win they advance so your thoughts on what you've seen
Speaker 1: so far in the series and how do you think it?
Speaker 2: Plays out tonight well on.
Speaker 7: The Line Moving towards Oklahoma City because jamal murray is questionable,
Speaker 7: with the nailness so even, if he plays there's a
Speaker 7: chance that he's he's a. Little bit compromised, BUT you
Speaker 7: know i think that this series ENDS tonight because i think, That,
Speaker 7: you KNOW denver, like i said only has, five, playable
Speaker 7: guys really, and you know, the you know this series
Speaker 7: has gone every other day, through Its Duration and denver's
Speaker 7: denver played pretty much every other day through the duration
Speaker 7: of their first round Win Against The. Los angeles clippers,
Speaker 7: SO you know i Don't think the nuggets have much left.
Speaker 7: In the, TANK you know i think it's obviously if
Speaker 7: They had, won game five it would have been. A
Speaker 7: different thing but you know The Fact that oklahoma city is,
Speaker 7: so much deeper and they have so, many more bodies
Speaker 7: and they're so, much more fresh and they have so,
Speaker 7: much more energy especially down the stretch, IN fourth quarters
Speaker 7: i think this, series ends.
Speaker 1: Tonight all right moving Over to the jazz with the
Speaker 1: remaining time, we Have, left and tony SINCE you and
Speaker 1: I last, spoke monday nights lottery, came and went and
Speaker 1: obviously A lot of jazz, fans VERY disappointed. Which i
Speaker 1: understand the fact of, the matter is, as you know
Speaker 1: the most likely scenario based off the percentages was not
Speaker 1: one it was either, four or five and, they landed
Speaker 1: five which, was their floor. Which is unfortunate but WHAT
Speaker 1: sort of i would Sort of info intel do you
Speaker 1: have out there as far as what sort of players
Speaker 1: could be? Available At five and, i'll ask you what
Speaker 1: do you think best case scenario scenario Is for the
Speaker 1: jazz at five coming up.
Speaker 2: In, THE draft.
Speaker 7: Yeah i don't think, IT'S you know i don't think
Speaker 7: it's the tragedy if they. Landed their five there are
Speaker 7: five really good players, in the draft so you know
Speaker 7: they're gonna get. A good, player you know, it's you
Speaker 7: know if they didn't the Thing that the jazz that
Speaker 7: the tank wasn't for the, for the ceiling it was.
Speaker 7: For the floor, and you know they wanted to get
Speaker 7: the number one spot in. The lottery balls so the
Speaker 7: farthest say and fall with spots and with the farthest say,
Speaker 7: Fall being, Five they're fine they're gonna get a. Really
Speaker 7: good player they're either gonna get uh be They Ask.
Speaker 7: FROM drey Johnson I mean trey Johnson, or or acetalley
Speaker 7: either one of those guys are are really good players
Speaker 7: with really high ceilings with. With star, CEILINGS you know
Speaker 7: I think as bailly's floor is more volatile than than trades.
Speaker 7: And and DJs his his lowest outcome is is a
Speaker 7: lot more, volatile than that but it's probably also has
Speaker 7: the highest, outcome as well because he has. A superstar outcome,
Speaker 7: so you know obviously the disappointment is you Know that
Speaker 7: the jazz fell all the.
Speaker 3: Way.
Speaker 7: To five uh the further disappointment is that Obviously it
Speaker 7: was Dallas And in San antonio and. Philly moving up,
Speaker 7: but you know if if you take the emotion, out of,
Speaker 7: it you know it's it's a fine. Spot to land
Speaker 7: there are five very good players. In, This draft jazz
Speaker 7: we're gonna get one of them because they. Landed at five,
Speaker 7: so you know it's it's not it's not. A doomsday
Speaker 7: thing and you know they're they're gonna end up getting.
Speaker 7: A good. Player you know my guess is that It's
Speaker 7: Gonna be ACE bailey because I THINK. The v j
Speaker 7: ashcombe is gonna Go third to Philly if if philly,
Speaker 7: keeps the PICK and then, i, think That Uh that
Speaker 7: charlotte hornet is Gonna Pick between Trey Johnson, and conkin nepple,
Speaker 7: and you know and, that'll leave uh that Will leave
Speaker 7: Either trey or Ace.
Speaker 1: To the jets so what tell me your Opinion Of,
Speaker 1: of trey johnson who appears to be shooting up draft
Speaker 1: boards by a, lot of, uh you know a lot,
Speaker 1: of mock drafts a lot of scouts. To do this
Speaker 1: gavoni's latest ask trade to six at the at the Six.
Speaker 1: Of the wizards He has The Jazz taking jeremiah. Fears, at,
Speaker 1: five so uh give me Your take on trey because
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of people think he might
Speaker 1: sneak into maybe even.
Speaker 3: The.
Speaker 2: TOP three.
Speaker 7: Yeah i think trey has a Chance To. Be devin booker,
Speaker 7: he's he's uh he's him in, aceh to me you
Speaker 7: are the best shot makers. In the draft he's, six
Speaker 7: for five.
Speaker 3: Six.
Speaker 7: Or six uh he can. Handle the ball, he can
Speaker 7: uh he can get the spots. Off the dribble he
Speaker 7: moves very very well. Without the ball but he's unique
Speaker 7: and the fact that he can play with the ball,
Speaker 7: in his hands so he. Can do both you can
Speaker 7: play them off the ball or you can play them.
Speaker 7: On the ball he's a good pick. And, role player uh,
Speaker 7: he YOU know he i think he's, a willing, passer
Speaker 7: YOU know and i think that he has a chance
Speaker 7: to be. An. Offensive engine uh, SO you know i
Speaker 7: think that if If, if, it's tray uh that that
Speaker 7: falls to the jazz and in the in the. Jazz
Speaker 7: pick trade, AND you know i think that that's a
Speaker 7: that's a really good from starting block uh to to to.
Speaker 7: Start off us but you know the Other Thing with
Speaker 7: trey I'LL say is i think that he would fit
Speaker 7: in better than Most with will hardy system because because
Speaker 7: of his ability to move. Off the ball, SO you
Speaker 7: know i think that he's a guy that, THAT you
Speaker 7: know i don't know if he's THE guy that i would.
Speaker 7: Take a three the question is who would you? Take A, Three,
Speaker 7: because Dj tray and ace are all in the same.
Speaker 7: Tier of player SO right now I would take. Dj
Speaker 7: at three and the reason WHY, is because dj of
Speaker 7: THE three guys, i just mentioned is the best defender
Speaker 7: and the and he measured in at six.' four without
Speaker 7: shoes i thought he was going to measure in at
Speaker 7: six two or six one and, a half without shoes
Speaker 7: so he measured in a lot bigger than. Expected AT
Speaker 7: the combine so i think the depth balls him. Into
Speaker 7: the third.
Speaker 1: Spot so is it safe to say whoever's Left, OVER
Speaker 1: out Of ace vj and, trey in your Opinion, LANDS
Speaker 1: to the jazz.
Speaker 7: I would say that that's the leader in. THE clubhouse
Speaker 7: right now i Don't mean obviously the jazz to fall in.
Speaker 7: Love with, somebody else you know maybe they Fall In.
Speaker 7: Love with derrek queen maybe they do Fall In, love
Speaker 7: with jeremiah fears maybe they Fall In, love with, kaka
Speaker 7: neippel you know all during. The PRE draft process, but
Speaker 7: i would say, AS of right now i would say,
Speaker 7: one of, those three you know the leader in the
Speaker 7: clubhouse at this point.
Speaker 1: Really the only local player of interest as far as
Speaker 1: being able to be drafted, at A Notable spot As
Speaker 1: Yegor Demon from brigham young cavaldi Has him going. To
Speaker 1: chicago at twelve what do You think Happens. With, yegor
Speaker 1: draft knight.
Speaker 7: Yeah his stock is rising because he measured in it's like. Six',
Speaker 7: nine without shootes you know so if, you push us
Speaker 7: on him like he's six nine, AND a half six ten,
Speaker 7: i think that you know he was expected that he
Speaker 7: would come in and measure all six six six and
Speaker 7: a half, or six seven, without shoes so you know
Speaker 7: he's a, Jumbo point guard right now like he's a
Speaker 7: he's a legitimate six foot nine, and a half, point
Speaker 7: guard and you know he's the, best passer, in THE
Speaker 7: draft you KNOW so i think that i think that you.
Speaker 7: Know his ceiling right now don't be surprised if he's
Speaker 7: really in play At Number six for the washington wizards
Speaker 7: by the. Time all of this thing by the time
Speaker 7: all of, THIS is said and Done i don't think
Speaker 7: the jazz, will TAKE him at five but i do
Speaker 7: think that. The ceiling starts at six as far.
Speaker 1: As what the rest of the off season Could, look
Speaker 1: like for the jazz, they also have twenty one so
Speaker 1: we'll see what sort of value.
Speaker 2: Is there, at twenty.
Speaker 1: One You know IT'S interesting tim bontems from espn had
Speaker 1: a piece up yesterday and he quoted a number, of
Speaker 1: different front office executives one who was very specific about
Speaker 1: His enjoyment Seeing both the jazz and washington not get
Speaker 1: number one overall because he doesn't believe tanking should. Be
Speaker 1: rewarded in, Pro Basketball and of course adam silver's endeavored
Speaker 1: to flatten the odds in twenty nineteen was in part
Speaker 1: to try to dissuade Teams from doing What the jazz and.
Speaker 1: The wizards did this year, so look next year's draft
Speaker 1: and you and others have talked about next year's draft as,
Speaker 1: something that. Could Be very very exciting the jazz have a,
Speaker 1: pick that's top eight protected so it would behoove.
Speaker 2: Them to Be bad again do you they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Be a, Number of players good, players Tony, on The,
Speaker 1: move namely giannis Maybe durant who knows what boston does
Speaker 1: with that five. Hundred million Luxury tax bill now that tatum's,
Speaker 1: out for probably next Year do you anticipate the jazz
Speaker 1: trying to get involved in a notable piece or do
Speaker 1: you feel like next year is going to look?
Speaker 2: A lot like this year.
Speaker 7: Whether next year looks a lot like This year and
Speaker 7: that the jazz need to go out. And get a
Speaker 7: point guard they need to go out and get a
Speaker 7: real point guard who can actually come IN and, run
Speaker 7: A real nba offense because i think that they are
Speaker 7: short changing their development by, what that by you know
Speaker 7: what they're putting out of. Their point, GUARD right now
Speaker 7: You know i don't dislike, isaiah CALL you at all
Speaker 7: but i THINK he's a backup and i don't know
Speaker 7: that he's going to become, a starter in this league
Speaker 7: and they just need somebody who can come in and run,
Speaker 7: an offense because you know they Need To figure out. If,
Speaker 7: cody wims can play uh they Need To figure out
Speaker 7: what kante george actually. Looks like off the ball, they need,
Speaker 7: to figure out, you know whoever they. Draft what he
Speaker 7: looks like they need somebody who can Throw A, love past,
Speaker 7: the walker Kessler You know or get walker kesseler. The
Speaker 7: ball when he's open they need all of these guys.
Speaker 7: THAT they need to develop i think the development has
Speaker 7: been short changed by the fact that they've been so deficient.
Speaker 7: At that point, guard spot so you know whether they,
Speaker 7: go out and you know get a star or or,
Speaker 7: try to get a star or whether they want to
Speaker 7: tank next year. Or be, competitive next year to me
Speaker 7: just finding a veteran point GUARD who can run an nba,
Speaker 7: offense is. Their HIGHEST priority.
Speaker 1: All right so i guess ultimately that leaves us with
Speaker 1: the potential of them being in. The, Same spot next
Speaker 1: year right so give us give us a quick primer
Speaker 1: On some of the names jazz fans should be familiar
Speaker 1: with throughout the course of this upcoming. Up college season
Speaker 1: or whatever as far as maybe hope.
Speaker 2: For, next year's draft cycle well.
Speaker 7: Obviously You, have you, know aged debansas you, Know uh
Speaker 7: and you know jazz fans will won't have any issues
Speaker 7: watching him BECAUSE. He'll be at b yu they Won't
Speaker 7: Have any issues watching darren Peterson. Because. He'll be at
Speaker 7: kansas uh So he'll be. In the big twelve footprint
Speaker 7: those are The Two and And Obviously cam boozer, obviously cam,
Speaker 7: boozer at three you know so. He's gonna be a
Speaker 7: duke and you, know those are you know those are
Speaker 7: some of the names that's. That That Should, be watched
Speaker 7: but nata ment Who's. Going to be at, tennessee he's six,
Speaker 7: or ten, six four eleven a shooter. Can really handle
Speaker 7: the ball he's, kind of a you, know a skinny
Speaker 7: power forward but. A really. Really Skilled, Player, you know,
Speaker 7: kareem lopez uh you know he's HE'S an international, player who,
Speaker 7: I Really. LIKE you know christian KNACK i don't know if,
Speaker 7: i pronounced his name right but He's. Going to be
Speaker 7: a houston he's always also in The in the.
Speaker 3: In the.
Speaker 7: Big twelve footprint you know so it's, going to be a.
Speaker 7: Deep REALLY really talented draft and i, can tell you
Speaker 7: know the twenty six draft is one of THE best draft.
Speaker 7: CLASSES that i have seen i think it has a
Speaker 7: chance to be in that. Realm, of three ninety six
Speaker 7: uh those draft classes, that that have you know come
Speaker 7: along and you know eighty four that Have produced a.
Speaker 7: Bunch of, Hall, of famers all right.
Speaker 2: Tom thanks For.
Speaker 1: The time man, enjoyed denver, travel safe. Well chat, soon no.
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Speaker 8: GONE from two to FOUR i came back and i,
Speaker 8: came Back With, No job and craig Bowler Jack was
Speaker 8: doing the big, show right at that time and then
Speaker 8: eventually you know you, took over, that that program RIGHT
Speaker 8: yeah and so four I was Doing the original red,
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Speaker 3: WHAT it was.
Speaker 8: RIGHT yeah i came BACK i did that and I
Speaker 8: was fortunately. ENOUGH the garfs Hired ME i did some,
Speaker 8: blaze tv For you know, the the arena football team
Speaker 8: and then eventually was able to work back into the
Speaker 8: the Jazz. Franchise owned by the millers obviously at that
Speaker 8: point was doing radio and THEN, did a show on
Speaker 8: tv A nightly Show.
Speaker 2: ON k Jazz, called.
Speaker 8: Powerhouse I remember powerhouse and then powerhouse eventually it turned
Speaker 8: into THE desk opened up and. I GOT the, desk
Speaker 8: job so I know you know then I've been there
Speaker 8: now for i've. BEEN with the jazz, organization i, keep
Speaker 8: getting these you. Know every YEAR against something it's like
Speaker 8: i think. It's seventeen or Eighteen.
Speaker 2: Seventeen now with the, jazz.
Speaker 1: THAT'S a, great run man i mean all, of us
Speaker 1: in this ecosystem you just want. TO hold onto the
Speaker 1: job i have as much of a RUN as you
Speaker 1: can because i can remember, when YOU were doing radio
Speaker 1: and I got into it because i started in two. Thousand,
Speaker 1: AND three part time yeah i wasn't full time in
Speaker 1: like until, like two thousand and. Seven TWO thousand and
Speaker 1: eight and i can remember the station you were at
Speaker 1: did a special promotion.
Speaker 2: With, an ice cream company yeah and you.
Speaker 7: All.
Speaker 1: Had your own FLAVORS yeah and the reason i remember yours.
Speaker 2: Is it was the best And they. Called, it a
Speaker 2: lemma's dilemma yeah remember that in those? Ice cream?
Speaker 8: Vendals, did it that's right yeah it's a spot like.
Speaker 8: It right up the, street, and they asked us like
Speaker 8: what would you? Like IN your, ice, cream and i
Speaker 8: said well my favorite dessert is cake with. Ice, cream
Speaker 8: and hot fudge yeah so we could make.
Speaker 2: That into an.
Speaker 1: ICE cream it was Excellent i. REMEMBER loving a lemma's
Speaker 1: dilemma i remember that. When you're, on, the, RADIO but
Speaker 1: NONETHELESS yeah yeah. I mean i would agree the job.
Speaker 1: You have now is excellent you get to set at.
Speaker 1: The table In jazz games you and mike have been,
Speaker 1: working together for a while and it's always good when
Speaker 1: you can have tenure with a partner because your chemistry? Now?
Speaker 2: Is Is that FAIRNESS somebody and mike.
Speaker 8: And i, Knew each other interestingly enough mike was one
Speaker 8: year IN, front of, me at byu Right Obviously he
Speaker 8: was AN all american, freshman at byu playing basketball. Then
Speaker 8: went ON a mission so when i come in FOR,
Speaker 8: my recruiting trip at, byu, were sitting courtside like oh,
Speaker 8: you know the recruiting trip you know, journey That Everybody
Speaker 8: goes on, and mike SMITH is Playing And so i know,
Speaker 8: mike smith from that experience and then don't really get to,
Speaker 8: know him until you know he comes back and then
Speaker 8: ends Up Getting.
Speaker 2: Drafted by the boston celtics.
Speaker 8: And then he came BACK and was doing some, byu
Speaker 8: t AND interestingly enough you. KNOW i Got My start, i,
Speaker 8: followed Craig bowlerjack around sure and craig WAS was doing
Speaker 8: some CALLING byu games AT, local tv And Then byu
Speaker 8: and so mike, smith also Got To. START as, did
Speaker 8: holly row i mean you take, a look at our
Speaker 8: marketplace and so many of us that you KNOW started
Speaker 8: off Together around Byu and some university of utah had ended,
Speaker 8: up working in the business which.
Speaker 2: Has, been A great thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah and i Think all of us followed bowler around
Speaker 1: a little bit because. AS you as YOUR reference i
Speaker 1: CAN remember i was At, i was AT k fan
Speaker 1: and initially i left Here, To GO to k fan
Speaker 1: so i was Here, doing The show with yeah k
Speaker 1: fan hired Me to do afternoons with girard And then
Speaker 1: uh then. The Jazz bought the zone k fan dissolved
Speaker 1: and they hired me to Do the Big show at
Speaker 1: gordon after craig was just going. To, do jazz full
Speaker 1: time way We've all kind of followed. CRAIG right a
Speaker 1: little Bit i.
Speaker 8: JOKE, AROUND and, craig AND i i Mean obviously I
Speaker 8: worked With craig, at ksl At channel five and then
Speaker 8: Craig was actually WORKING at channel five when I, was
Speaker 8: still playing at buyu so he covered Me. A LITTLE
Speaker 8: bit at buyu then i TRIED to, break into the,
Speaker 8: tv Business And, you know approached doug miller who WAS
Speaker 8: the sports director. At ksl, at the time it's like you.
Speaker 8: Got TO get some experience So i go back, to
Speaker 8: HAWAII get some experience and I come back and eventually
Speaker 8: i Get the weekend Job At Channel five with craig
Speaker 8: bowler jack as, the lead sports anchor there and at
Speaker 8: a certain point he ends UP Leading, to go to,
Speaker 8: cbs network and, you know then you know comes back
Speaker 8: around as a.
Speaker 2: Play By play GUY for the jazz and i.
Speaker 8: Just keep on following around and then even, in Two
Speaker 8: thousand and four when i'm looking for an Opportunity to
Speaker 8: Come back to utah From, HAWAIIAN come back to Utah.
Speaker 8: I reach, OUT to craig in. Fact i ran into
Speaker 8: me It, was on vacation in hawaii. AND he hits
Speaker 8: me up I Meet With him at Chiefs Take factory,
Speaker 8: At the, family i'm, like i'm looking you know My.
Speaker 2: Kids are up in utah.
Speaker 8: I'D like to come back, i don't have a job
Speaker 8: and so let me talk to some people, and we'll,
Speaker 8: see if we you know maybe we'll. Get YOU started
Speaker 8: in radio so i come back and follow, him in
Speaker 8: a you know. Just for a radio spot so not
Speaker 8: just been blessed, with, not just you know opportunities but.
Speaker 2: The relationships have Been fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's FUNNY that bowler was calling byu, games when you, were,
Speaker 1: there because you know, Recently Our high school coach mike
Speaker 1: Maxwell Was Inducted in The, utah sports hall of fame
Speaker 1: and we Put together a video for mike about our
Speaker 1: team that won the state, championship In nineteen ninety. Seven,
Speaker 1: and i'd forgotten this, Yeah But after the game david
Speaker 1: james interviewed me. AS a, High, School senior dj, right
Speaker 1: yeah like you know, we're intertwined in.
Speaker 8: A while which is, interesting it's a, beautiful thing which,
Speaker 8: you know to your point the ONE of the things
Speaker 8: that i LOVE about the WORK that, I do, now
Speaker 8: i say i'm blessed and the jazz is. A big
Speaker 8: part of it but during the high school Sports doing
Speaker 8: a game On thursday AND, on a, FRIDAY on tv,
Speaker 8: you know i you know look at the THAT are,
Speaker 8: in here, AND i think you know i covered that
Speaker 8: kid when, He was at you, know highland or you know.
Speaker 8: Whatever the case may be it's a beautiful thing to
Speaker 8: watch these guys. Throughout their high school careers and obviously
Speaker 8: not all of Them Are advancing to play division one,
Speaker 8: or play in the state, but for, those, that do,
Speaker 8: It's like man You know I'm looking at raider de
Speaker 8: mooney on the depth chart now and moving up to
Speaker 8: number one IN the safety, position, AT byu was like
Speaker 8: man i remember one of the big plays that He.
Speaker 8: Had we were At brighton timp you, PLAYING brighton, in
Speaker 8: the playoffs i mean there's all kinds of memories for
Speaker 8: me that are associated with the kids that, are in
Speaker 8: The you know.
Speaker 2: You, know division one RANKS now do you? Like tv
Speaker 2: better than radio? DO you have a preference i like.
Speaker 8: Them both for different reasons you can appreciate this because
Speaker 8: YOU do both that a, tv, segment, Is, so brief
Speaker 8: right right yeah and so you've got to be able
Speaker 8: to be concise, in whatever you're talking, about because, the
Speaker 8: segment is you know maybe three. To five minutes or
Speaker 8: so you have time to, just kind of you know
Speaker 8: talk things through and.
Speaker 2: Chop IT up with somebody and.
Speaker 8: I love that, that that part of it which is
Speaker 8: probably why podcasts have become such a, beautiful part, of,
Speaker 8: the media you know, stratosphere Because You can really like joe, rogan,
Speaker 8: Can talk you know somebody you're Gonna Watch two hours
Speaker 8: of joe rogan because you want to, hear that, long
Speaker 8: form approach.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: Know to a topic yeah and IT'S it's the thing that.
Speaker 1: I love most about radio i think.
Speaker 2: It's, the.
Speaker 1: Most intimate FORM yeah right and what I had to
Speaker 1: do when i FIRST, starting STARTED to do tv because i. Cut,
Speaker 1: My teeth in RADIO yeah and so what i had
Speaker 1: to do is TRY to uh summarize what i do
Speaker 1: for four hours every day and and and cut it down.
Speaker 1: To three OR five minutes like when I, First started,
Speaker 1: doing with dave he's like we, only have. Like eight
Speaker 1: minutes you know so it's it's been an interesting challenge
Speaker 1: BECAUSE one of the things i love about radio is
Speaker 1: that we can sit, here and discuss a topic can
Speaker 1: hash it out as opposed to having one.
Speaker 2: Hundred and forty characters OR just one take like. I.
Speaker 1: Hate the hot take yeah kind of dynamic.
Speaker 2: Of, OUR business because and look.
Speaker 1: I still run into this i'll, get, FEEDBACK from people
Speaker 1: like hey i heard. You say, this, on air i'm like.
Speaker 1: Okay you heard five seconds did? You listen to the
Speaker 1: segment because we discussed, IT and flushed it out i
Speaker 1: can say one thing that maybe won't be super flattering
Speaker 1: right out of, the gates in a segment. But give
Speaker 1: me a, minute we'll land. The plane we'll get there
Speaker 1: we'll do SOME college football and some. Byu in our
Speaker 1: second segment but, While, we're in the space elema.
Speaker 3: Let's.
Speaker 1: Do, a little, jazz yeah so of course it's, been
Speaker 1: a week of disappointment and there's no other. Way to
Speaker 1: put that now xanik said this after the like the
Speaker 1: most likely outcome based off the. Numbers was four. Or
Speaker 1: five it wasn't one it would have been, great IF
Speaker 1: it Was one. Because i think cooper's awesome what was
Speaker 1: Your Reaction when you saw mark tatum hold Up The card?
Speaker 8: That the Jazz war five so so i'll give you,
Speaker 8: a draw picture for. You Painted picture for you how
Speaker 8: i'm listening To the draft lottery right i'm mowing my
Speaker 8: lawn with my phone in my pocket and My, ear buds,
Speaker 8: in and i'm you know listening for. What's going TO,
Speaker 8: happen here, and when, i, you know, HEARD one two and.
Speaker 8: Three I was like, DISAPPOINTED WHEN i heard. Five, I i,
Speaker 8: audibly grown yeah i think and it probably could. Be
Speaker 8: HEARD throughout the Valley But i think that tony jones
Speaker 8: summed it up very, astutely when, he just said you know,
Speaker 8: the being the worst team your hope is, that, you
Speaker 8: want the floor right but that means that. You can't
Speaker 8: drop below five and if there was, a time to
Speaker 8: be five it's in a draft like this where you
Speaker 8: are have a talent laden, draft and your lottery pick
Speaker 8: if you're, picking in the top five is going. To
Speaker 8: be a good player it's going to be a. Player
Speaker 8: THAT'S going to contribute and i look At really what
Speaker 8: the the jazz have done in the last couple of
Speaker 8: years as far, as draft picks are concerned going Back
Speaker 8: To obviously getting a cante george and then you know
Speaker 8: this last year, to pick Up you know to get.
Speaker 8: Philipowski in the second round is that it is crazy
Speaker 8: right at this point when you're redrafting that he's obviously going.
Speaker 8: To BE a lottery pick But i think that the
Speaker 8: jazz at five and twenty one are going to be
Speaker 8: able to, get players that you.
Speaker 2: Know you can build on and that's what.
Speaker 8: YOU got to look at i Think, at this point
Speaker 8: is okay what is the what? Does the construction look
Speaker 8: like right Because that's. Basically where the, jazz are we're
Speaker 8: not rebuilding but the construction, is going on, right.
Speaker 1: Now right right right and ultimately it brings up a
Speaker 1: conversation about what it will look like. The next year,
Speaker 1: or two And you know it's funny alema watching the
Speaker 1: playoffs and You hear these stats Like Minnesota is in
Speaker 1: the western conference finals and it's the second straight year.
Speaker 1: That they're in the finals this is the first Time
Speaker 1: that the city of minnesota has had one of their
Speaker 1: teams in the final four two straight. Years Since Nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two the detroit pistons haven't won a home playoff game. Since,
Speaker 1: TWO thousand and eight charlotte i think. It's BEEN twenty
Speaker 1: one years. Acromatal i could keep going we just simply Have.
Speaker 1: Been spoiled by the jazz when it comes to, the
Speaker 1: end of an era the bridge. Has Not been Very
Speaker 1: long it's, john and carl Then, boom they Draft, d
Speaker 1: will They, Get, booze they get. Memo boom we're off
Speaker 1: running there's a. Little bit Of a dip then, it's hayward,
Speaker 1: and its favors. And Boom, we've got Something, gordon leaves They, Draft,
Speaker 1: donovan they develop. Rudy boom we've got something so we're
Speaker 1: now three years into a little. Bit of a purgatory
Speaker 1: period but that's not uncommon ACROSS. The landscape of the
Speaker 1: nba and the fact of the matter is you have
Speaker 1: to have a little pain tolerance to wait Until this thing,
Speaker 1: Gets Tickn so twenty nineteen adam.
Speaker 2: Silver flattens the lottery.
Speaker 1: Odds we have six lotteries none of the teams that
Speaker 1: were among the worst in the. League, have received number
Speaker 1: one yeah so it it brings to mind what. Next
Speaker 1: year could look like is it's still going to be a.
Speaker 1: Slow process with young. Players my guess is yes do
Speaker 1: they look at the landscape of the league and try
Speaker 1: to bring in some, big pieces expedited it maybe. But
Speaker 1: that's easier set done what do you think next next
Speaker 1: YEAR is gonna.
Speaker 2: Look for i would agree.
Speaker 8: WITH you one hundred percent i think that that next
Speaker 8: year is not it's not going to be the same.
Speaker 2: AS it was this year i think.
Speaker 8: That, there were some objectives certainly the development of players
Speaker 8: was one of the things, that they were looking at
Speaker 8: and so we saw a lot, of opportunities for younger
Speaker 8: players which in the long run will benefit this team
Speaker 8: because those guys got, so much experience last year they're
Speaker 8: gonna be much better players in their sophomore season or
Speaker 8: their third year in the league because of. WHAT happened
Speaker 8: this past season i don't think this. UPCOMING season looks like.
Speaker 8: THAT i agree with you i think you want to
Speaker 8: try to bring somebody in That is going to be
Speaker 8: i'm not not, necessarily a true needle mover but somebody
Speaker 8: THAT can contribute and and I think that that the
Speaker 8: jazz have tried to accomplish that to, some degree this
Speaker 8: last season and then some, injuries that you deal with
Speaker 8: and and so maybe it doesn't pan out exactly the
Speaker 8: way the. Way that you want to and it, is harder,
Speaker 8: than It, seems you know says oh just, like go,
Speaker 8: Get this, Guy, you know and hey yan Do you
Speaker 8: hear people talk jannis Is.
Speaker 2: Talking about, leaving, the milwaukee it's. Like well go get
Speaker 2: him it's like it's like it's.
Speaker 8: A little tougher, than That but for me and i've
Speaker 8: always been of this opinion because. It's important Who you
Speaker 8: hire and the jazz have done a great job making
Speaker 8: sure that they got a front office. That KNOWS what
Speaker 8: they're doing and I always make even when i was
Speaker 8: doing the show Back In the day with ben krittle
Speaker 8: and We Were Talking, about a bronco menden hall he
Speaker 8: makes a decision and people ARE up, in arms and
Speaker 8: byu fans you. Know How they can, BE and i'm
Speaker 8: just like i always make the assumption that the head coach, has, more,
Speaker 8: Information than ME certainly right and so i, LOOK at,
Speaker 8: our front office i say these guys know what they're
Speaker 8: doing and they have had success in the past and
Speaker 8: will continue to, have success in the future and you,
Speaker 8: put your faith in that and. Then YOU enjoyed the ride,
Speaker 8: and i, gotta Tell you last year if, I'M doing
Speaker 8: my math correctly i think we did sixty five. Post, games,
Speaker 8: after a loss okay yeah, sixty, Five them a lot
Speaker 8: right that's a lot of half hour minimum. Postgame shows
Speaker 8: after A loss and even then i was able to
Speaker 8: find some.
Speaker 2: Kind of joy in that and that, makes him kind.
Speaker 8: Of bizarre but, it was it was fun even challenging
Speaker 8: and entertaining at, Times, to try to find okay what
Speaker 8: are we going to talk?
Speaker 2: About?
Speaker 8: Tonight after This loss right and the jats were fortunately
Speaker 8: though there weren't a ton of blowout, losses where, we
Speaker 8: just got you. Know wiped off the floor there was
Speaker 8: always something GOING on and that's what i.
Speaker 2: Can appreciate about the franchise and you reference head coaches
Speaker 2: who seem.
Speaker 1: To, Know what they're, doing yeah and you Know it
Speaker 1: was INTERESTING when quinn left and i Had a GOOD
Speaker 1: thing with quinn and i still talk to him and he,
Speaker 1: was REALLY good to me so i was. Bummed that
Speaker 1: he was leaving, danny does his due diligence And, WHEN
Speaker 1: he landed on Will i had ONLY heard will's name
Speaker 1: because I KNEW had COACHED with team usa And i
Speaker 1: knew he was Udoka's. Number one assistant in boston BUT
Speaker 1: the first phone Call I Made, was to jeff Van
Speaker 1: GUNDY who Coached, on team usa WITH will And even
Speaker 1: before i. Had, jeff on the Show, unfortunately well fortunately
Speaker 1: for jeff he's. Now back in, the league unfortunately for
Speaker 1: us he. Can't Come on the show and. Jeff said
Speaker 1: he's a star he, said he's an. Absolute star and
Speaker 1: he's young this is. The right thing to do so
Speaker 1: they pick up year four in year, five of his
Speaker 1: contract option so he was not a, dead man walking
Speaker 1: next year nor was he a dead man. Walking the
Speaker 1: Year after That but What ryan and danny and Justin,
Speaker 1: decided to do with will It's almost UNPRECEDENTED, in the
Speaker 1: in the nba the third longest tenured coach In Basketball.
Speaker 1: Right Now is billy donovan if, will coaches through his
Speaker 1: contract he would already be the third longest.
Speaker 2: Tenured coach in pro basketball he has. A nine year
Speaker 2: runway now they signed.
Speaker 1: Him through twenty thirty one what have been your impressions
Speaker 1: as you've got to know, him as you watch him
Speaker 1: and what are your?
Speaker 2: THOUGHTS on this contract extent.
Speaker 8: I Will say this about what i've said this, plenty
Speaker 8: of times on air that he is the, right man
Speaker 8: for the job and. The job is multi faceted, to your,
Speaker 8: point is like you know guys, don't last through a
Speaker 8: rebuild and if you, do last through the rebuild you're
Speaker 8: not the coach. After, The team is built right but
Speaker 8: they made the Decision, to go with will hardy an
Speaker 8: unknown commodity to a, degree as a head coach and
Speaker 8: they knew that this was the guy that was going
Speaker 8: to be. Able to coach this team, AND as we're
Speaker 8: talking about i pulled OUT my key chain because i
Speaker 8: have my key Card. On here for the jazz and
Speaker 8: these are some Of The bullet points For Ryan smith.
Speaker 8: And the utah jazz Organization the number one and i'll. Give,
Speaker 8: you all of, them, transparency, all, in. Community obsessed one
Speaker 8: team scrappy those are the descriptions Of What we want
Speaker 8: The utah jazz now. The mammoth franchises to be transparency
Speaker 8: was something that we had Lost to a Degree with
Speaker 8: quinn and and I'm. A big fan of quinn i.
Speaker 8: Wish him ALL the success but and covid had, something
Speaker 8: to do with that where. Where WE all lost access
Speaker 8: and i was part Of a Media that covered carl
Speaker 8: And john and you know horny in that era where
Speaker 8: we had all kinds of access, just as local media members,
Speaker 8: not just the beat. Writers but local media members and it's,
Speaker 8: slowly kind of you. Know slipped AWAY from US and
Speaker 8: again i think covid had a. Lot to do with it,
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden we don't have access to
Speaker 8: anything right to Now Our access to to will hardy
Speaker 8: as employees and and even then we Were Still employees.
Speaker 8: In the quinn snyder era but his willingness to share.
Speaker 8: Information with us is unpressent i've. Never seen, Anything, like
Speaker 8: it it's been uh it's been.
Speaker 2: A breath OF fresh air and and.
Speaker 8: I love working with him and if you if you want,
Speaker 8: to just, chat with him, he's willing as you know
Speaker 8: to just sit down. And talk for a minute so
Speaker 8: to have that kind of access has, been really it's
Speaker 8: been beneficial especially going through.
Speaker 2: The last, couple of, seasons for sure all right. We'll
Speaker 2: catch a quick break we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna do Some College football and also brian santiago is
Speaker 1: the New athletic director at the why we'll get. A
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Speaker 2: Tell Me Why.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: LIKE matt rife you're young i just there's SOMETHING about that.
Speaker 4: Dude that i don't know it's. Kind of irritating me too, I'm,
Speaker 4: With YOU on that okay so i maybe NOT the guy.
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Speaker 4: like like off the, cuff crowd work in comedy but
Speaker 4: when you like try to MAKE it your, thing and
Speaker 4: i don't, know if.
Speaker 3: YOU do it.
Speaker 5: That's, great i don't.
Speaker 2: Know yeah that's. The issue he's not funny. He's a stand.
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Speaker 2: Bumped back by the way. That was a, great book there.
Speaker 3: You go?
Speaker 2: THERE you Go All right a train.
Speaker 1: Tom, holmo for twenty years yeah just did probably a
Speaker 1: job that most people don't. Understand, how good it was
Speaker 1: absolutely you know when, it came to traversing independence and
Speaker 1: you always, judge AD's on their hires and certainly with
Speaker 1: basketball and football.
Speaker 2: He went four for four.
Speaker 1: So big shoes left behind they will, BE filled by
Speaker 1: his deputy A D who started at brigham young twenty
Speaker 1: seven years Ago As an assistant with Steve Cleveland and
Speaker 1: then joined tom. Side About Two decades ago so brian santiago.
Speaker 2: Officially introduced is the new? Ad at your alma mater? By?
Speaker 8: What do you think i'm i'm this is as it
Speaker 8: seemed to. Me LIKE a no brainer and i knew
Speaker 8: some of the, other candidates that were involved and there were,
Speaker 8: some good candidates out there. There's No, question about that
Speaker 8: but santiago as you mentioned TWENTY seven years he's a
Speaker 8: byu Guy. Without being A b white never attended byu
Speaker 8: as a. Student, or a student athlete right was, a
Speaker 8: great player in BASKETBALL. But didn't play at byu and
Speaker 8: THEN he comes in AND i Knew Him When I
Speaker 8: Did steve Cleveland Cleveland's coaches show when, steve cleveland WAS
Speaker 8: the coach and So I got to know brian, santiago
Speaker 8: was heading you know operations at the time and was
Speaker 8: really to A Large degree he was, steve cleveland's right
Speaker 8: hand man and then that evolved into of course getting
Speaker 8: INTO the front office of. Byu in the athletics department
Speaker 8: and he has been involved in all of the, things
Speaker 8: that you're talking about, whether it's, traversing you know this
Speaker 8: Independence or, getting into the big twelve or the coaching.
Speaker 8: Hires that you're talking About he was there. WHEN colone,
Speaker 8: was being interviewed i mean he's been so integral a
Speaker 8: part of what has happened over the last twenty five
Speaker 8: twenty seven years that this is a, guy that seems,
Speaker 8: to me feels TO me And of COURSE i know
Speaker 8: brian and i have known, him for a long time
Speaker 8: like a. Natural fit like this is this is of
Speaker 8: course where You Would go after having tom homo do
Speaker 8: all of.
Speaker 2: The THINGS that He.
Speaker 8: ACCOMPLISHED and i knew tom i Came in and PLAYED,
Speaker 8: after Tom was at byu but TOM came back after
Speaker 8: his nfl career and actually COACHED a little bit at,
Speaker 8: byu and coached my brother Who Was, A safety at
Speaker 8: bringham young. SO it felt very natural i wasn't surprised
Speaker 8: at all when, the ANNOUNCEMENT was, officially, made and i
Speaker 8: thought okay when he had his press conference and he
Speaker 8: assured me and the general public that, Football is, still,
Speaker 8: number one i'm.
Speaker 2: Like okay that's our guy well and hopefully, football is
Speaker 2: still number one.
Speaker 1: And in theory, it is but you know what they've
Speaker 1: done to invest in. The basketball program is something it's
Speaker 1: something that certainly. Has worked and paid dividends, but before,
Speaker 1: we get there you know it's always, tough, to Follow
Speaker 1: The goat right. And Ty corbin knows it After jerry
Speaker 1: stepped aside, and ty got, THE job and you know
Speaker 1: i talked to somebody down There after the Higher because
Speaker 1: i've only met. BRIAN a couple of times i had
Speaker 1: A Chance to go playing steve young's charity Golf tournament last,
Speaker 1: year and brian was there so talk to him and seems.
Speaker 1: Like a very affable, guy he's most known. For at
Speaker 1: least my understanding you tell me, his relationships with depocketed
Speaker 1: donors and if, that's all.
Speaker 2: He's, good at that's enough. Yeah, because that's the deal.
Speaker 8: Now that is the job of your, athletics, director and
Speaker 8: their deputies right those guys are supposed to be able
Speaker 8: to convince donors or potential donors to make a, contribution
Speaker 8: to their alma mater to. The school that they represent
Speaker 8: and he, has done A Fantastic job as is, chad
Speaker 8: lewis Over The years and and rob bosco and the guys,
Speaker 8: that have, served in that you know, part of the
Speaker 8: athletics department they have done a great job and Making
Speaker 8: sure that, the, athletics, because everybody says, oh yeah that's
Speaker 8: all tithing. But it's not tithing money, this is all
Speaker 8: you know money that has been raised and then. Donated
Speaker 8: towards the athletics program same thing thing WITH the broadcast
Speaker 8: building at byu.
Speaker 2: Though that's not.
Speaker 8: Tithing money that's funding that those are guys actively out there,
Speaker 8: making sure that those. Things Those Projects get funded, and brian,
Speaker 8: santiago has been you know the tip of the spear when.
Speaker 8: It COMES, to those, projects so i you know he's.
Speaker 8: Certainly qualified IN that regard and when i look at
Speaker 8: at the, coaches that have, been hired, they've all been
Speaker 8: you know great coaches to when you say that it's
Speaker 8: tough to, replace, the guy a goat right a guy
Speaker 8: that and the guy that's. HAD that kind of tenure
Speaker 8: i used to have a saying that it's never the
Speaker 8: guy that replaces the guy that. Ends up being the
Speaker 8: guy it's the guy that replaces the guy that replaced.
Speaker 2: The guy that. Ends up, being the guy.
Speaker 8: It's hardy it really is it's a tough, thing to,
Speaker 8: be able to You know Replace The. Lovel edwards as,
Speaker 8: gary croton you come in, you go twelve and oho
Speaker 8: but then it all falls, Apart and then you Know,
Speaker 8: bronco comes in and okay now, things are back to
Speaker 8: Normal And, now YOU'VE got colonie sataki who i really
Speaker 8: believe is the right man to lead this. Team for,
Speaker 8: THE foreseeable future you know I Would say that that
Speaker 8: kyle whittingham becomes one of the. Rare instances now branded
Speaker 8: urban meyer only had a Couple of Years, at the
Speaker 8: university of utah so it's not as hard to replace that.
Speaker 8: Because he wasn't as established but it. Is rare that
Speaker 8: that happens but there. Are exceptions to that rule.
Speaker 2: Do you think.
Speaker 1: Do you think the football team is receiving the same
Speaker 1: amount of financial support the, Basketball team is.
Speaker 2: Because, look klaanie's My.
Speaker 1: GUY yeah and love claudie i did A coach a
Speaker 1: show at claudie when he was here as, the DEFENSIVE
Speaker 1: coordinator every week and i can remember, AFTER just, A,
Speaker 1: few months i thought okay he's going.
Speaker 2: To, be a HEAD, coach someday Maybe. A byu.
Speaker 1: Maybe a utah who knows and you know the tough
Speaker 1: thing about reporting on nil is there are a couple
Speaker 1: of outlets that claim. That they know the figures there
Speaker 1: are a few college football and COLLEGE basketball, Media members
Speaker 1: who i trust and so if, you just do the
Speaker 1: calculation the reports are debance is getting between five and
Speaker 1: seven zero. For Five months of basketball jeff goodman Reported That,
Speaker 1: the number for Rob, right the kid.
Speaker 2: From baylor Was three mil we.
Speaker 1: Know richie got seven figures if you, just do some
Speaker 1: loose math they're paying about thirteen to fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: for their. Roster IN basketball next year and i Haven't
Speaker 1: On good authority. What KEVIN young is making AND i
Speaker 1: can remember when I Heard the rumor that kevin young MIGHT,
Speaker 1: coach COME to, coach byu.
Speaker 2: And i said.
Speaker 1: No way and here's Why he interviewed for, the celtics
Speaker 1: head coaching Job he interviewed, for the sunset coaching job
Speaker 1: And he interviewed for the Jazz head coaching job Before
Speaker 1: DANNY landet On, will so, i knew KEVIN not personally
Speaker 1: but the lds. GUY coach in the league i thought
Speaker 1: there was no way they, were going TO get him
Speaker 1: and then i heard what they were paying him. And, What,
Speaker 1: they promised him so alma we know that the. Basketball
Speaker 1: program is Funded handsomely is my guy? Klani, receiving the
Speaker 1: same support yeah you're probably Asking.
Speaker 8: The wrong guy. Because I'm a football guy so i'm.
Speaker 8: Going to, look at everything a's? Like what about our
Speaker 8: guys where do we?
Speaker 3: Get?
Speaker 8: In the rec right right and the reality is when you're,
Speaker 8: talking about basketball versus football, you're talking about you know an,
Speaker 8: eighty man, roster or forty you know plus. Whatever the
Speaker 8: case may be and then your coaching Staff is going
Speaker 8: to be probably you used to be a whole lot.
Speaker 8: Larger than a basketball staff now the basketball staff, is.
Speaker 2: Pretty Dog one big right but.
Speaker 8: I'VE talked to you enough i know enough guys in
Speaker 8: those nil circles that that assure ME that ARE involved
Speaker 8: with byu that byu is, still getting the the attention
Speaker 8: and maybe that attention doesn't result in the same dollar
Speaker 8: figures that you're seeing for a guy that's only going to.
Speaker 7: Be.
Speaker 8: There for five months now there's gonna be times when
Speaker 8: you're willing to pay That for a guy like ajabonsa
Speaker 8: because he is a. Franchise changing type of player? Have you,
Speaker 8: Seen him play a boy i've Seen the highlights and.
Speaker 8: Then i've seen him, play and by the way if,
Speaker 8: you're just watching the highlights like you got to go see.
Speaker 8: This guy play in person it's a whole, different thing,
Speaker 8: because the highlights you know, you, always wonder is. Like
Speaker 8: well who's the competition you go watch him play in
Speaker 8: the competitive, Or even a pickup situation you're gonna, be
Speaker 8: wowed by this guy maybe the most, skilled player. That
Speaker 8: we've seen you KNOW for for me and i watch
Speaker 8: a Lot of basketball now because i've got kids that
Speaker 8: WERE playing, club basketball, and i see you know the level.
Speaker 8: Of talent that, is around and We travel we're at
Speaker 8: eybl we're, at all the different tournaments and THIS is
Speaker 8: a guy that i, don't care who you. Are he's
Speaker 8: gonna wow you and so to be able to, get a, Kid,
Speaker 8: like that it's like okay what? Are we willing to spend,
Speaker 8: it's like, the question is you know can we afford
Speaker 8: not to.
Speaker 1: Pay him and. Let, Him go somewhere else, yeah and
Speaker 1: to your point he's the. One, That's worth the check
Speaker 1: yeah AJ's the. One that's worth the check. That's why
Speaker 1: you write it, MY only concern and look i know
Speaker 1: there's THIS thing where it's the byu, experience and it's
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT here, and he's A byu guy and MAYBE klannie
Speaker 1: is JUST that i. Can remember i did radio one
Speaker 1: of my favorite experiences is Doing Radio with Levell and
Speaker 1: ronnie Makins football fridays and hearing leavelle tell the story
Speaker 1: of he, never worked with a contract he never. Cared
Speaker 1: to renegotiate a contract he just was thrilled and he
Speaker 1: got paid to do what he was.
Speaker 2: Doing basically one, hundred thousand dollars, A, year.
Speaker 1: Which is right okay that's, crazed in nineteen, eighty two
Speaker 1: but you, Know in Twenty twenty five i'm sure kilani is.
Speaker 1: Probably not, Rolling that way my concern alemma is if they,
Speaker 1: don't take care, of him at some point he's going
Speaker 1: to GET a phone call from i don't know another, people,
Speaker 1: were school that says okay what do you make and
Speaker 1: we can literally triple that.
Speaker 2: If you want.
Speaker 1: To, come work for us Yeah because as much as
Speaker 1: bronco wanted to say this, is about, independence not working
Speaker 1: sure buddy it's, Also. You tripled your salary broncos so
Speaker 1: that's that's my only concern if You're.
Speaker 2: Not, taking care of Colonia.
Speaker 8: Now The difference between Bronco Menden hall and A klanie Sataki,
Speaker 8: is THAT bronco menden hall who i love and respect
Speaker 8: and admire the work that he's done in all, those
Speaker 8: schools he's BEEN at.
Speaker 2: Was, not a byu Guy Yep.
Speaker 8: He just wasn't kilanie sataki this Is, a destination job
Speaker 8: FOR kilani now you you i say that and at
Speaker 8: the same time hope that he does not get disrespected
Speaker 8: in the Process because oh he's gonna this has always
Speaker 8: been the concern ABOUT the way THAT b. Yu is RECRUITED.
Speaker 8: Lds kids oh they're. Lds they're gonna come here we
Speaker 8: don't need. To pay attention to them they're. Going to
Speaker 8: Be here anyway. DON'T treat kilani like That I, don't
Speaker 8: think that brian, santiago now That you know, LEADING up
Speaker 8: BYU's athletics department i don't. THINK that that will, happen
Speaker 8: I could be wrong but i don't see that.
Speaker 2: As PART of.
Speaker 8: The future and i agree and there's been a lot
Speaker 8: of progress over the last ten years as. Far as
Speaker 8: coaches getting Paid and it was partly bronco who made sure,
Speaker 8: that his Assistance Got paid and then klani satake being
Speaker 8: more concerned about his assistants getting paid because that's an
Speaker 8: important part of. What you're what you're building but. Take
Speaker 8: care of the guy. Take, care, of the guy yeah.
Speaker 8: YEAH and, HOPEFULLY they, ARE i mean i know.
Speaker 1: I know they did renegotiate i saw A couple of figures.
Speaker 1: Online byus a private institution. You CAN'T camera request it
Speaker 1: so i can't SIT here and tell you. I know
Speaker 1: what he's making i can sit Here and tell you
Speaker 1: What i've been told that kevin is Making is reportedly,
Speaker 1: more than klania is making which is.
Speaker 2: A wild thing to do in.
Speaker 1: The LANDSCAPE of college athletics the p four teams, that
Speaker 1: value basketball over.
Speaker 2: Football that's, a short list. You know it's a duke.
Speaker 1: They're not very many Schools and so to hear santiago
Speaker 1: say that football still our driving force had to land
Speaker 1: really WELL for a lot of byu fans that have
Speaker 1: this narrative that they're taking care of.
Speaker 2: Basketball and not FROM it this is what i read
Speaker 2: between the lions when you. Make, A statement like.
Speaker 8: That Okay so it's not like santiago is unaware that
Speaker 8: those numbers that you're speaking of are out there in
Speaker 8: the atmosphere and That people understand.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: The kolonie, knows this right to me, reading, between the
Speaker 2: lines is Hey We.
Speaker 8: Took care of. Kevin young we needed, to it was
Speaker 8: a timely you know. Moment in, the, basketball programs you
Speaker 8: know progression we. Will, take care, of you yeah you
Speaker 8: know time will come and we. WILL take care of
Speaker 8: you i think that that is an Unstated But understood
Speaker 8: thing with.
Speaker 2: Coloniae sataki at this point did You get to know
Speaker 2: coach witt at? ALL like we did overlap i didn't,
Speaker 2: know WHEN we were.
Speaker 8: Playing so i played with with the with. With Two of,
Speaker 8: His brothers in in fact fred, or the tight. Ends
Speaker 8: coach was my class so we were in the same
Speaker 8: recruiting class. On the same recruiting, trip SO we Played together, so,
Speaker 8: I know FRED better uh and then i took some
Speaker 8: some beatings from from his. Brother who Was a linebacker,
Speaker 8: there after kyle was Done but.
Speaker 2: Everybody knew who kyle was'.
Speaker 1: I've often said the Two biggest days in modern utah
Speaker 1: football history are The day they got the pack Twelve
Speaker 1: invite and the day KYLE said no To.
Speaker 2: B yu and yes tutah?
Speaker 1: What Was your reaction when because kyle was the guy
Speaker 1: that b why, YOU wanted and you know i grew
Speaker 1: Up In a Generation of lavelle edwards where utah got nothing,
Speaker 1: that b, why, you wanted including wins right so it
Speaker 1: signaled kind of a. CHANGE out of the guard i
Speaker 1: wonder what. Your, reaction was to.
Speaker 8: That well it's been interesting MY evolution and AS a
Speaker 8: byu fan where i literally do. NOT have a red
Speaker 8: tie i don't have a red piece of clothing and,
Speaker 8: will not until my Sons, who may go TO altiff they,
Speaker 8: go to outa HIGH School they. Playing the, ALTA bantam
Speaker 8: programs then yeah i wear. Some red because of THAT
Speaker 8: but at this point i have so many GUYS that
Speaker 8: are crossovers that i played with them Their. Son now
Speaker 8: Plays for utah I'm a utah fan like i'm. A
Speaker 8: fan of these Players I'm. A fan of, kyle whittingham,
Speaker 8: i don't Necessarily you Know Cheer for i'm like frank
Speaker 8: doulce to, Some degree in that regard i'm CHEERING for, the,
Speaker 8: guy that, i love, right my friend for. Teammate those
Speaker 8: kinds of, THINGS so WHEN that happened i really i was.
Speaker 8: Having a hard time, wrapping My question was like if
Speaker 8: kyle becomes because he'd Been, such a success at UTAH
Speaker 8: if he, Becomes, the byu head coach LIKE how like?
Speaker 8: How DO i process that because i had spent plenty
Speaker 8: of time Like most, by You Fancy oh yeah BUT kyle.
Speaker 2: Winningham is a byu guy.
Speaker 8: At some point that changes and yes he's an alumni
Speaker 8: of our program.
Speaker 2: And we're Proud of that but that's. Utah.
Speaker 8: Man through and through, yeah so when, he decided and you,
Speaker 8: know as, the story goes you know some some prayer
Speaker 8: and contemplation on The.
Speaker 2: Decision.
Speaker 8: Besides the, state utah uh you know One of my
Speaker 8: sayings is god has a. Plan that's BETTER, than yours
Speaker 8: for for byu. That was the better Plan We ended
Speaker 8: up with kilani sataki and that that's.
Speaker 2: A win for, us.
Speaker 1: SURE and, You know like I said, i'm, a HUGE
Speaker 1: kilani guy uh and i do think he's the right
Speaker 1: guy to. Lead the thing moving forward are you glad
Speaker 1: to see the rivalry.
Speaker 2: Back, in, the.
Speaker 8: SAME conference yes absolutely absolutely i mean, all of us
Speaker 8: you know dreaded the independence when you, were going to
Speaker 8: play them and and that still hasn't necessarily worked itself
Speaker 8: Out in the, in the big twelve. Yet but, it
Speaker 8: just it number one it's hard to be credible and
Speaker 8: say that by you didn't come a little become a, little,
Speaker 8: Brother at that POINT right. Utah's in the pac twelve
Speaker 8: we're playing an independent schedule with absolutely nobody in the back,
Speaker 8: Half of the season now so, you tried to sell
Speaker 8: it but it. Was a real hard sell so for
Speaker 8: us to be, back in the same conference and it
Speaker 8: was interesting to WATCH social medias as the pac twelve fell,
Speaker 8: APART and everybody's you, know byu fans are cheering and
Speaker 8: Then they get into the, big, twelve almost you know
Speaker 8: instantaneously and now. YOU'VE got to eat crow i think
Speaker 8: it's the, best thing that has happened maybe ever for
Speaker 8: this rivalry because it allows us to be back in
Speaker 8: the same recruiting war and we're competing on more. Of
Speaker 8: AN even playing field and i think it's it's Good
Speaker 8: for the state Of utah and sports in utah to
Speaker 8: have that rivalry back, where it needs to be which
Speaker 8: is in the same conference.
Speaker 2: With conference implications for sure let me. Ask you one
Speaker 2: more thing let's get TO the golf tournament.
Speaker 1: Before i set you loose, you worked for You, know
Speaker 1: Still With the jazz but Alex jensen was with the
Speaker 1: jazz for nine years while.
Speaker 2: You were, THERE AS well and.
Speaker 1: Look i, i Love football always have but i'm a
Speaker 1: basketball guy at.
Speaker 2: The End of the day in utah.
Speaker 1: Basketball means something to me and the fact that we're
Speaker 1: coming UP on a decade between ncaa tournament appearances? Like
Speaker 1: ARE you kidding me And I have like the kevin
Speaker 1: young experience has already. Been crazy and very exciting very
Speaker 1: few Things get Me down To provo aj devonsa will i'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna head down there for a.
Speaker 1: Couple of, games, this year tell You, fans your, experience
Speaker 1: watching Alex you know work with Rudy And what you
Speaker 1: think alex Jensen can do.
Speaker 8: For the utah, basketball program take you back maybe you
Speaker 8: know a Little Bit prior, to THE utah Jazz experience
Speaker 8: because i covered rick mcjaris and the Team that went
Speaker 8: to the final four and then lost in the in
Speaker 8: The Championship game down To san, antonio In The final
Speaker 8: four and alex jenson, obviously was on that team and
Speaker 8: he was, a leader on that team an. Important Part
Speaker 8: of That team so i've known alex since his college
Speaker 8: days and then of course when He Got hired by
Speaker 8: the Utah jazz and was on quinn's staff and watching
Speaker 8: his development skills right and being able To Develop, a
Speaker 8: player Like Rudy gobert four Time. Defensive player of the
Speaker 8: year that kind of stuff is if we're, talking about
Speaker 8: a college experience, that's what you're looking for is a.
Speaker 2: Guy that can do.
Speaker 8: That and, WHEN that announcement was made I was elated
Speaker 8: for the University. Of Tih and for Alex and I'd
Speaker 8: run into alex when dallas would come and, play and
Speaker 8: we'd see him and he was, always cordial with my
Speaker 8: kids and so we'd get a. CHANCE to, interact with,
Speaker 8: him i think you know we're talking about we're a,
Speaker 8: fortunate state, where we have, you know good college athletics
Speaker 8: and then we have Good Coaches like To Have, klonie
Speaker 8: satake and kevin Yong and then You. Know alex, ALONG with,
Speaker 8: kyle it's like i mean you couldn't ask For anything
Speaker 8: better Than. The, bronco, up at, logan NOW yeah that's
Speaker 8: fantastic and i think we're Really fortunate that we have
Speaker 8: and this is. My personal observation and opinion there are
Speaker 8: a lot of coaches that. Are out there, from themselves
Speaker 8: they just are and so to have guys that really and,
Speaker 8: truly care about their kids even in a day and
Speaker 8: age where the kids are started to, STOP caring about
Speaker 8: the team i think that that's a, very valuable thing
Speaker 8: to have and.
Speaker 2: We're fortunate to have it.
Speaker 1: WELL said all right before i say You, loose coming
Speaker 1: up next thursday and made the twenty second. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the invite i'm excited to go. Down THERE and hack.
Speaker 1: Around hopefully i PLAY well but you and i are
Speaker 1: kindred spirits. In a number of ways one of the
Speaker 1: things you do that isn't as public in front facing
Speaker 1: is you help people that find themselves mired. In drug and,
Speaker 1: ALCOHOL addiction and you, KNOW i always say this i
Speaker 1: think we Live in an era where i'm just grateful
Speaker 1: that we can say out loud. Mental, Health is simply
Speaker 1: health right it's. No longer, This weird thing you know
Speaker 1: it's not the gentlemen you See Under. The tree at
Speaker 1: pioneer park it's not the people you drive pastor in
Speaker 1: jazz games and wonder.
Speaker 2: What's going on, with them it's, your brother it's your,
Speaker 2: sister it's your. Ward member.
Speaker 1: IT'S your neighbors is pervasive i think it's. AN emergency
Speaker 1: in our. Country i have for years so. The, golf
Speaker 1: tournament sold out yeah the cause is something we. Should,
Speaker 1: talk about a.
Speaker 8: Lot yeah the Golf Tournament, it supports the salida foundation
Speaker 8: which is a five. O'h one c three nonprofit what
Speaker 8: it does is it helps people that Are Coming out
Speaker 8: of residential and i'm. A product of residential, TREATMENT if
Speaker 8: without residential. Treatment i wouldn't be here. It's just plain
Speaker 8: and simple but, as part of that process what, we've
Speaker 8: SEEN over the years and i have a, substitution disort
Speaker 8: of counseling degree went back and got. Some information and
Speaker 8: some education one of the things that becomes critically important.
Speaker 8: Is a residential treatment program it's, usually, thirty to sixty days,
Speaker 8: right and then after that you know a lot of
Speaker 8: people find themselves. Out there On Their own what the
Speaker 8: salita foundation does is we support people with scholarship funds
Speaker 8: so They Can.
Speaker 2: Apply On The salita foundation.
Speaker 8: Thus salida foundation dot org and they can apply for
Speaker 8: a scholarship to help, them with sober living expenses which
Speaker 8: is one of the critical transition.
Speaker 2: Pieces that helps people to.
Speaker 8: Stay on a sober path so we help them with
Speaker 8: the sober living and then we can continue to offer
Speaker 8: and pay for their trauma therapy if. They need more
Speaker 8: of that and then there's a mentoring, that's a part
Speaker 8: of that. Which is a huge piece the mentoring to
Speaker 8: be able to have somebody that, you can reach out to,
Speaker 8: like a quote unquote sponsor but also a mentor that is.
Speaker 8: Going to Work With you so the salita foundation provides
Speaker 8: those services and the money that we'll, raise through the
Speaker 8: golf tournament which again thank you to all the. People
Speaker 8: that have, signed up it's sold out but those monies
Speaker 8: will go to help people that are in need and
Speaker 8: help them.
Speaker 2: Stay on a sober path and where can.
Speaker 1: People go get more information let's say we have a
Speaker 1: listener who's going through some things themselves.
Speaker 2: Or, maybe a family member Yeah please Go To the
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Speaker 8: you can make a contribution make a donation of any
Speaker 8: kind and you can make a monthly donation if you
Speaker 8: want to set it. Up that way as well but
Speaker 8: we appreciate all the support and. IT'S making a big difference.
Speaker 2: A tran great to see i'll see you. Next week
Speaker 2: card as well.
Speaker 3: Always good to.
Speaker 1: See him Much Love There. Is the great alema harrington
Speaker 1: it might be time. That we retire the bit it
Speaker 1: might be time because it started, out AS a Funny
Speaker 1: thing and i know zach is gonna come on and Pretend.
Speaker 1: That He likes pit poll, But zach has. Been traveling
Speaker 1: he's been busy If, you follow him on instagram he's been.
Speaker 2: Doing a bunch of things so we haven't had.
Speaker 1: Him on For a while and now i'm just remembering
Speaker 1: that the. BIT just ruins my day i think it's
Speaker 1: time that we retire the pit, bull, Bit.
Speaker 2: Because you think well.
Speaker 1: Zach doesn't really like him he's gonna come on, and
Speaker 1: pretend that he does but there's, no way like.
Speaker 2: In, reality he actually does well we'll.
Speaker 5: Leave it up to him, It's his walk, up song.
Speaker 2: Zach off air how Often?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: Rocking pit poll.
Speaker 3: Every day then he has At Least Four Songs in
Speaker 3: my Like. Favorite songs playlist on spotify.
Speaker 1: Do you feel do you feel okay about Yourself? When
Speaker 1: you come on, aaron just. LIE like this. YOU'RE lying
Speaker 1: i feel great.
Speaker 3: I feel great about myself i FEEL great about myself
Speaker 3: when i tell the truth, about mister. Three h five mister.
Speaker 3: WORLDWIDE you're, tapping YOUR toe i know. Like i can't
Speaker 3: see you and that's why you. Feel comfortable lying about
Speaker 3: this it's a bit, for, YOU to be Like. OH
Speaker 3: i don't like pitbull i. KNOW it's in YOUR car
Speaker 3: i know it's i know it's on your.
Speaker 7: On your, pill at home come.
Speaker 1: On it's very much, not, but how you been. Man
Speaker 1: it's been a while tell us. Give us an up
Speaker 1: date you've.
Speaker 2: Been all over.
Speaker 3: THE place i've been good i feel like THERE'S been a,
Speaker 3: how do i put this there's been. A pregnancy with
Speaker 3: my schedule i don't MEAN that as like a. I
Speaker 3: just that there is it's my Schedule is growing constantly
Speaker 3: and i'm just waiting for that to to just explode and.
Speaker 3: Just NOT have that anymore and i feel like now
Speaker 3: that we're down, TO one game a night i feel.
Speaker 3: Like that birth has happened, So.
Speaker 2: Your water has broken you're, No longer traveling.
Speaker 3: Broken yeah Like it's, Just like, now i'm LIKE i'm
Speaker 3: like what do i? Even? Do with my time now,
Speaker 3: they one game a night. ONE game of A night
Speaker 3: i feel like i don't. Even have a. Job anymore
Speaker 3: this is incredible?
Speaker 2: Where are you right. Now i'm in.
Speaker 3: MY apartment this is crazy i just Been A week
Speaker 3: ind in new orleans and trying to do my job
Speaker 3: and have fun at. The same time was insane did you?
Speaker 2: BEHAVE yourself even, KIND of.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah i mean. I, got my work done.
Speaker 1: Okay that's all that matters as long as, you get
Speaker 1: the work done you, can do, Whatever.
Speaker 2: You want all right zach. We got to.
Speaker 1: Start here the, lottery's, Rigged everyone hates you. Jah, No
Speaker 1: one loves jazz okay so the?
Speaker 2: Fixes? And what's going on man?
Speaker 7: How?
Speaker 2: Do, we fix this.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: Well my solution is simple is one one we we we,
Speaker 9: we lament tanking all year right or.
Speaker 3: At least, half the year, we're like this is bad.
Speaker 3: It's bad for the product and then the teams that
Speaker 3: tank don't get rewarded the last at, least the last, three,
Speaker 3: years and they're like well. This is this is unfair well.
Speaker 3: They did all this, tanking then you get rewarded and
Speaker 3: that's not that's not. How that's supposed to go so
Speaker 3: to eliminate tanking and to make, this a more fair
Speaker 3: process just it's a it's an unwighted lottery one and
Speaker 3: fourteen chance you missed. The playoffs, one in fourteen that
Speaker 3: way there's no incentive to to Be as bad As
Speaker 3: the wizards And the jazz and. The hornets were this
Speaker 3: year and in order to kind of try to stack,
Speaker 3: the odds in, your favor is you know to get that,
Speaker 3: Fourteen PERCENT one, IN fourteen like i just i. THINK
Speaker 3: it's a simple solution i will never believe that teams
Speaker 3: are going to tank out of the playoffs in order
Speaker 3: to get a one in fourteen chance, At THE number,
Speaker 3: ONE pick like i just i think that is so
Speaker 3: ridiculous AND fails to. Understand HOW nba teams operate and
Speaker 3: i think it will bring a better product to the
Speaker 3: to the last. Couple. Months, of the season.
Speaker 1: Certainly well, while we're IN the space even though i
Speaker 1: am RISKING insulting your intelligence and i. Find the conversation
Speaker 1: intellectually embarrassing we do live in the modern day and
Speaker 1: age where if your, guy doesn't win an election, you
Speaker 1: cry that it's stolen, and you storm the, capitol and if,
Speaker 1: your guy if. YOUR team, If your team i mean.
Speaker 1: I'M not, saying it's not. I mean let's be clear
Speaker 1: i'm not saying that wasn't. The right thing to do.
Speaker 1: I'm just painting a picture, if your team didn't, win
Speaker 1: the ref got paid if your, kid doesn't make the
Speaker 1: team the, coach doesn't like you like we cannot. Take
Speaker 1: L'S in our society so i am doing radio in
Speaker 1: a city full of people that.
Speaker 2: Believe this thing is rigged can you help us understand why?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 2: VERY much, is, NOT.
Speaker 3: Well i mean look i can't. BE certain that it's
Speaker 3: not i. Do know that they're sad you don't.
Speaker 1: Know what, you, Just, did oh no hey porter. SHUT
Speaker 1: the tax line down i don't.
Speaker 3: Want TO hear.
Speaker 2: From ANYBODY oh i know ALL I know is.
Speaker 3: That i i know several people that were in the
Speaker 3: room that. That the lottery happened in they believe it's.
Speaker 3: On the up, and up they. WATCHED it they experienced
Speaker 3: it i got to. TAKE their work for, it i,
Speaker 3: don't think that you know maybe we. SHOULD check the
Speaker 3: bank accounts i don't think that you know there was
Speaker 3: some large sum of, money or some you Know unmarked
Speaker 3: bills and a. Duffel, BAG given, to them like i
Speaker 3: like we've had this process viewed by the, media for
Speaker 3: a long time, and they write about it they, talk
Speaker 3: about it every, year and so you know, based on,
Speaker 3: ON knowing THAT you know i maybe i, need TO
Speaker 3: see it MYSELF but i feel like i feel like
Speaker 3: at this point it's it seems it seems. Like pretty
Speaker 3: hard to, rig at the same time, there are, some
Speaker 3: very coincidental you know moments in this lottery history that,
Speaker 3: seemed hilariously uh you. KNOW pointed in ONE direction i think.
Speaker 3: It's i think it's funny it, also doesn't affect me negatively.
Speaker 3: So it's easy, FOR me if it's funny i understand why.
Speaker 3: CERTAIN fan, bases, are upset i just man it's hard to.
Speaker 3: Imagine you could, rig that but you know everything's raked
Speaker 3: these days if, it doesn't go, your, way LIKE you said.
Speaker 1: Well if i, COULD speak for jazz Fans I just
Speaker 1: was hoping mike pence.
Speaker 2: Would do The right thing that's. WHERE i'm, at, WITH it.
Speaker 3: I mean look i think maybe he should be in.
Speaker 2: The, ROOM for, The lottery yeah. I, Mean, i'm an idea.
Speaker 1: Man look here's the deal the one team that could
Speaker 1: not win the thing to not inspire conspiracy theories, Won
Speaker 1: the thing like that.
Speaker 3: That's what happened for sure and we Had The same,
Speaker 3: thing with new Orleans Twice right with the Anthony Davis draft,
Speaker 3: and the zion, Williamson draft and you know Cleveland wins,
Speaker 3: It THE year, lebron, leaves like i mean look you
Speaker 3: have these moments where It, does seem, awfully Coincidental lebron
Speaker 3: you know the Lebron draft when you know, cleveland Gets
Speaker 3: number one pick The Chicago gets it, When, derrick, rose
Speaker 3: is available like yes there are times where it seems impossible,
Speaker 3: for this stuff to happen and and, you can point
Speaker 3: towards whatever like it feels like those things where if,
Speaker 3: you want to believe it you can find a. Way
Speaker 3: to twist it. RIGHT it, IS so funny I mean
Speaker 3: i was doing i, was doing a you know video
Speaker 3: or something for the athletic and we're doing this thing
Speaker 3: of LIKE the best like who i wanted to see
Speaker 3: WHEN the lottery and who i didn't want to see
Speaker 3: win THE lottery of this and i almost put in
Speaker 3: THE top five of teams i Want. To see THE lottery,
Speaker 3: dallas and then, i thought now that's. Ridiculous sense that could,
Speaker 3: happen and then of course like as it gets down to,
Speaker 3: THERE in, the top four, i thought oh my god
Speaker 3: like THEY won this thing before I even saw the
Speaker 3: top like who who was? Positioned in the, top, four
Speaker 3: you just knew like, Of course they won this. Like,
Speaker 3: IT'S it's too funny well i guess it's not funny,
Speaker 3: to a few, fan days but to me it was
Speaker 3: too funny. For, not to be.
Speaker 1: Them yeah and for Comedic per is, not just dallas
Speaker 1: At one but, The freaking spurs it too, like, Give
Speaker 1: me a, break man.
Speaker 3: But all right would it? Have been what do? You
Speaker 3: WOULD it, HAVE mattered But i mean i guess jazz
Speaker 3: fans getting getting fifth like. It sucks no matter what
Speaker 3: but would they have felt Better if it was The
Speaker 3: spurs at? One in dallas at. TWO or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I don't, think it matters i mean as much as
Speaker 1: it's stinging Folks around here that. The jazz fall to
Speaker 1: five the other thing that you look at is You're,
Speaker 1: already if you're the jazz. YOU'RE, Already a mile behind
Speaker 1: okc you're Already a mile behind even houston, and all
Speaker 1: the you know you're a mile behind most Of, the
Speaker 1: teams in the west but maybe some of the other. Teams,
Speaker 1: are within shouting Distance now two of your western conference
Speaker 1: piers will add two really good players to two rosters
Speaker 1: that already have a lot of.
Speaker 2: Really, good players, ON.
Speaker 3: Them yeah and. THAT i MEAN that's fair i mean
Speaker 3: i think the good news and, maybe this is being
Speaker 3: mean but, like the good news is like You Get out, of,
Speaker 3: the ace bailey SITUATION right we think, like i think
Speaker 3: that like if you finish in, that top two or
Speaker 3: three you probably end up having to take him if
Speaker 3: you don't. Get the number one, pick AND so maybe
Speaker 3: you like i, everything you read, about him see about
Speaker 3: him like it just seems like that's a guy like
Speaker 3: you kind of have. To TAKE in that zone but.
Speaker 3: I don't, think he'll fallow i. MEAN maybe we'll. Fallow
Speaker 3: five i don't know he just. Measured, IT like six
Speaker 3: seven yeah i thought he was.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 1: Ten this whole time yeah and, IF he falls to
Speaker 1: five i mean maybe you.
Speaker 2: View, THAT as a win. YEAH i, think you do i.
Speaker 1: MEAN unless, you, fall in i mean look you, know
Speaker 1: the deal around, here folks are Like Well, we can't
Speaker 1: get cooper. Flax so, let's get continent it's like let's
Speaker 1: not just do, the best white guy possible.
Speaker 2: Maybe, get the best player?
Speaker 5: Yeah who do you think who do you?
Speaker 3: Think?
Speaker 2: Is realistic at five, Though, IT'S.
Speaker 3: A good question like i mean, the, contrapt thing is
Speaker 3: like yeah like you could get a six five guy
Speaker 3: who plays, Like A six, TO one like i, like i,
Speaker 3: like he's good he's skilled. But, HE plays, so, SMALL
Speaker 3: yeah i don't like i don't understand the draw of
Speaker 3: the guy who plays so small for. WHAT his, HEIGHT
Speaker 3: actually is i mean i, guess In the Five Range, Like,
Speaker 3: I'VE seen Trey Johnson like i. Think TREY johnson's really
Speaker 3: good like I Don't. THINK you want derek queen i Definitely.
Speaker 3: DON'T think you Want Conkinemple i don't think jeremiah fears is.
Speaker 3: Like the right Guy there i'm. A, BIG malu watch
Speaker 3: guy like i think. There's SO much potential there And
Speaker 3: I know you have, walker kesseler, AS the center but
Speaker 3: like i just think that there is so much raw potential, there,
Speaker 3: and it's not like oh you've got. To teach this guy's,
Speaker 3: skill he has great, touch he has. Great feel for the,
Speaker 3: game he's a good, defender he's a good rebounder. He's
Speaker 3: a good offensive player, his TEAMMATES rave about him like
Speaker 3: i think that that is the guy with The Highest
Speaker 3: upside Outside Of. Cooper flag and dylan harper now, he
Speaker 3: may not reach that but if your whole organization for
Speaker 3: a decade plus has been about we get guys and
Speaker 3: we develop them and we, bring that, out of them
Speaker 3: to me. That's, the guy to develop yeah it's.
Speaker 1: It's it's, an Intriguing point and yeah the walker stuff might.
Speaker 1: Be A little bit redundant but i Wonder if you
Speaker 1: think the jazz have WHAT it takes to, to i,
Speaker 1: Don't think It you know and even tim McMahon reported
Speaker 1: this Week that the ownership in dallas, Has Handed, the
Speaker 1: edict down like nico you're. Not, allowed to trade it
Speaker 1: okay we are keeping It And, We are drafting cooper
Speaker 1: flag so. Stay out of the room but do you
Speaker 1: think There's any world Where San antonio Looks At daron
Speaker 1: fox And Stefan castle and says dylan harper's a little
Speaker 1: redundant and maybe. Somebody can grab number Two do you
Speaker 1: think the jazz get? INVOLVED in something like that i.
Speaker 3: THINK they ABSOLUTELY absolutely should i mean i think with,
Speaker 3: their with their you know kind, of treasure trove of,
Speaker 3: picks and THEY'RE young, guys And EVEN i, mean if
Speaker 3: i'm i know this, sounds maybe a little. RIDICULOUS or maybe,
Speaker 3: it Doesn't i, don't know if i'm utah maybe, this
Speaker 3: isn't getting enough back and you've got. TO figure out
Speaker 3: a Way I, would, dangle, out larry markaman like hey
Speaker 3: you Want. This guy next to wemby here's a. Shooter
Speaker 3: that'll spread the floor we got we GO. Get the
Speaker 3: number two b, and you, really start like All Right,
Speaker 3: You BELIEVE in, dylan, HARPER like i mean look i.
Speaker 3: Know The marketing and everything dylan Harper Is way Better
Speaker 3: Than isaiah collier and, kanty, George went way better right
Speaker 3: like you don't have to do that, thing, anymore where
Speaker 3: It's Like oh, you passed john stockton's, Record like like
Speaker 3: he's legit he's, a legit point guard prospect and so
Speaker 3: like you need more back than. Just the number, two
Speaker 3: pick larry's obviously awesome but like you maybe have. To
Speaker 3: get aggressive in that and since you're now accepting that
Speaker 3: you're in a rebuild one year. Into a three year
Speaker 3: rebuild now you can actually lean into it and go
Speaker 3: get whatever that is and, maybe bring in You Know,
Speaker 3: whether that's a kelton. JOHNSON maybe, IT'S maybe you i
Speaker 3: mean i don't know if They Would do two and stephan.
Speaker 3: CASTLE like that seems aggressive i don't, Think they would,
Speaker 3: do that but like you they have a lot of
Speaker 3: pieces that you can go get and maybe get. Involved
Speaker 3: IN three SCENE deals like I just i think they're
Speaker 3: i think it Would make sense for the jazz to
Speaker 3: be very aggressive with trying to go grab a higher
Speaker 3: pick in this while still holding on to the to
Speaker 3: the fifth pick where you can still. Get, A very
Speaker 3: GOOD player.
Speaker 1: Yeah i think i think one of the main issues
Speaker 1: that you could Run into there is san antonio could probably,
Speaker 1: get a lot for two right and do they?
Speaker 2: You know, They do they. And Look lowry's really good
Speaker 2: so I'm not.
Speaker 1: Trying to disparage lary Marketing but you call san antonio
Speaker 1: and you offer them, five in marketing for. Two they
Speaker 1: also have fourteen you get a late lottery pick and,
Speaker 1: maybe a piece from them and then you reset and
Speaker 1: you start over with a legitimate piece.
Speaker 2: Because they're not going to be able to Get To.
Speaker 1: ONE to get cooper flag i, have, all these friends
Speaker 1: like hey, they should trade to one they should trade Up.
Speaker 1: To one, and get flag i'm, Like they should do
Speaker 1: that but you need two people. To agree to such
Speaker 1: transactions so could you get two and Fourteen And a
Speaker 1: piece from san? Antonio for five In marketing or could
Speaker 1: san antonio get a lot more than that for?
Speaker 2: Two, BECAUSE so MANY people.
Speaker 3: Yeah i JUST i don't know if i just don't
Speaker 3: know if, You NEED to include five like i don't
Speaker 3: know that those players are going to, Be OUT on
Speaker 3: the market like i Know There's. The talk of kevin
Speaker 3: durant do we know that they want to go sell
Speaker 3: a bunch of assets for A Couple? OF years of
Speaker 3: kevin durant i don't think that doesn't seem like the, Move,
Speaker 3: that they, would do like you know for for what,
Speaker 3: WE know about that organization I don't really believe that
Speaker 3: giannie's is going. TO be on the table I don't
Speaker 3: really believe that booker is going. To be on the
Speaker 3: table like if we're starting, to look at You know
Speaker 3: star and maybe i'm, wrong about all that stuff but
Speaker 3: if we're starting to look at like, stars who, could
Speaker 3: be available you know a player like marketing might be. As,
Speaker 3: good as a gift now it doesn't mean you have
Speaker 3: to make a trade If. You're IF you're. SAN antonio
Speaker 3: but i don't i don't Know That You, Have To
Speaker 3: if i'm utah i'm i'm not really dangling that fifth
Speaker 3: pick and in that trade unless it is. A very
Speaker 3: aggressive trade market they do have all, these teams throwing
Speaker 3: that in and then you, do have to. INCLUDE that?
Speaker 1: Do, YOU think i mean look i would sound like
Speaker 1: the biggest HYPOCRITE in the world if, i, sat here
Speaker 1: and said man it was the wrong approach this YEAR
Speaker 1: to intentionally lose because i believed it was, the RIGHT
Speaker 1: thing to do and i believed it was the right
Speaker 1: Thing to do. When women yama was available After you Move,
Speaker 1: on FROM mitchell and gobert but i also have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge at this point that since the odds, were flattened
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen literally zero Of the teams that the
Speaker 1: Jazz that did what the jazz tried to do this
Speaker 1: year have been rewarded with. The Number one overall pick
Speaker 1: tim bontemps had a piece up ON the dot com
Speaker 1: for espn citing a number of different front office executives
Speaker 1: that all seem to be in lockstep That they're glad
Speaker 1: That the jazz and the wizards were not rewarded for
Speaker 1: having a lack of integrity of trying to build a team?
Speaker 1: That actually competes for real are we moving into a
Speaker 1: space where you no? Longer want to lose intentionally even
Speaker 1: Though In, a city like saul lake it does feel
Speaker 1: like the Only way to get a cooper flag or
Speaker 1: a generational piece is to have the top one or.
Speaker 1: Two picks, in the draft you. Know it's interesting to
Speaker 1: consider the vote for flattening the odds, was twenty nine
Speaker 1: to one and The One dissenting Vote Was sam presty
Speaker 1: in oklahoma, city because His Point, Was, we're in oklahoma
Speaker 1: city like it's not. Easy to get stars, Here obviously
Speaker 1: they've done it but does the approach change at some
Speaker 1: point now that the data is in that. LOSING intentionally
Speaker 1: guarantees you nothing.
Speaker 3: I. Mean it guarantees you nothing but did anybody, watch
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty two twenty? Twenty three s first. Team
Speaker 3: they were pretty terrible they.
Speaker 2: Were, worked out for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah THEY weren't the, worst, but i mean no like
Speaker 3: the process is the Process not to go, all sam,
Speaker 3: hanky on it you know but like, the process is
Speaker 3: the process like it it is still the best avenue
Speaker 3: towards getting one of. Those guys in the draft just
Speaker 3: because it hasn't worked the last three years in terms
Speaker 3: of the worst team getting that doesn't mean the, other teams,
Speaker 3: who have tried you know have tried to to to.
Speaker 3: TAG can, Improve their position i mean washington was terrible
Speaker 3: last year they, did with, The TWO pick you know,
Speaker 3: like i mean this year it was a it was
Speaker 3: a high profile class and. You, HAD two, Good teams
Speaker 3: well i, mean santoni wasn't that good but they, were,
Speaker 3: supposed to Be good right and, because wendy's injury and
Speaker 3: everything but you had two, good teams or you know
Speaker 3: supposedly good teams with a lot of talent end up at.
Speaker 3: THE top of, The, draft i, still believe like to
Speaker 3: me this is this is reminiscent of, like a few years,
Speaker 3: ago all of, a, SUDDEN it was like hey i
Speaker 3: don't Know if. You want, A big three you know
Speaker 3: i don't know if teams want three. Superstars and had
Speaker 3: two superstars AND this was before the. Cda got, changed,
Speaker 3: and everything it's like no they want as many stars
Speaker 3: as they can. Get like they like this we can
Speaker 3: sometimes overthink this. Stuff because of the results the process
Speaker 3: is still to get the. Best odds in your favor and,
Speaker 3: SO until they change it i. Still believe that's Gonna
Speaker 3: happen like if if i'm going, to butcher the kid's
Speaker 3: NAME but you know a j the kid that's going to,
Speaker 3: b yu if he is you know this one, everyone
Speaker 3: tanks for next year and one of those, teams tanks
Speaker 3: and gets him it's just going. To reinforce the TANKING
Speaker 3: process like unless the nba truly is rigging this thing
Speaker 3: to get the non tanking teams, to get, that top,
Speaker 3: pick to dissuade you know anyone, From from trying this
Speaker 3: process like that's that's the only thing that's going to
Speaker 3: make that tanking. Option, not actually look attractive yeah.
Speaker 2: And obviously the reaction this week is prisioner of The moment.
Speaker 2: With what happened monday.
Speaker 1: Night But what what what? DOES philly do at Three
Speaker 1: i Mean We've. TALKED dallas, and san antonio i mean
Speaker 1: technically they have Two really good players that i'm gonna
Speaker 1: say went healthy because you have to are. Still kind
Speaker 1: of game changers do you do you think they could
Speaker 1: move that pick to try To Get em BEAT and
Speaker 1: paul george and maxi veteran help or have they seen
Speaker 1: enough that these dudes just don't stay healthy and.
Speaker 2: We've, GOT to move on yeah i.
Speaker 3: DON'T think they move on i think they're kind of
Speaker 3: pot committed at least FOR another, year because who i mean,
Speaker 3: who knows what you know what operations or procedures that
Speaker 3: they'll they'll hope work on embiid for getting. Him ready,
Speaker 3: FOR next playoffs but yeah i mean it's a it's
Speaker 3: a weird position because they can't, get a really good
Speaker 3: talent right if you do Believe That you can, develop
Speaker 3: ace bailey into, something if, you do believe you know
Speaker 3: one of these other guys is is someone who Can Become,
Speaker 3: a star of. Trey johnson, Someone like THAT you know
Speaker 3: i've seen dj edgecom. KIND of get, MOCKED there i.
Speaker 3: YOU know i like him i don't know if that's
Speaker 3: like number, three pick, good crazy athlete decent shooter, doesn't really,
Speaker 3: MOVE the BALL you know i don't i don't really,
Speaker 3: know that, there's a good you know. Natural FIT there
Speaker 3: at three so i would say you either swing for
Speaker 3: the guy with the highest potential And If, you think
Speaker 3: that's ace bailey then, you just you Do It and
Speaker 3: you hope paul george is an incredible influence, in terms
Speaker 3: of you know. Development and, professionalism and everything because look
Speaker 3: we can make A Lot. Of jokes about paul george, he's, still, an,
Speaker 3: incredible player right, like like yes he can he can be,
Speaker 3: a punching bag of time but. He's still an incredible
Speaker 3: player and, so you, Do put him you, know ace
Speaker 3: under his wing like you you maybe get a great
Speaker 3: just mentorship there to to set. Him On the right
Speaker 3: path darryl morey said that. They plan to Keep It,
Speaker 3: so if, you're james harden you, know elsewhere in the world.
Speaker 3: You believe, THAT he's lying, you KNOW i don't know
Speaker 3: but i. Think THEY should explore it like i think
Speaker 3: you that team needs as much betteran, help as possible
Speaker 3: they need like they need any. Guys who can play
Speaker 3: now this. Isn't a two timeline situation like they need
Speaker 3: guys who can who can play and. Be, healthy, actually play, now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no for sure all right remaining a few minutes
Speaker 1: to talk about teams that, are actually still playing Basketball.
Speaker 1: And we'll, Start, out east you KNOW zach, you like.
Speaker 2: Dogs I do all right so i've Come to the
Speaker 2: conclusion that.
Speaker 1: Donovan is a golden doodle, and you love golden doodles
Speaker 1: and you can ye bring them to the dog park, and,
Speaker 1: sometimes they drop fifty right and sometimes.
Speaker 2: They'll win A dog show.
Speaker 1: AND but, indiana's got pipulls, I mean just and look
Speaker 1: donovan had plenty, of really good playoff.
Speaker 2: Games and he always does it's just when the.
Speaker 1: Moments demand toughness and physicality we saw it here And.
Speaker 2: We're seeing it.
Speaker 1: In cleveland there's just something about him that doesn't exude
Speaker 1: that toughness when the. Moment is is requiring toughness and
Speaker 1: he can do a postgame press conference where he drops
Speaker 1: f bombs and you guys Are gonna write this and.
Speaker 1: I'M getting in, the, Gym i don't Know man your
Speaker 1: takeaways From?
Speaker 2: Indiana, taking care. OF cleveland yeah.
Speaker 3: It's funny i, Like the past few years i've been
Speaker 3: banging this drum of like his, playoff reputation, is not
Speaker 3: earned you. KNOW like this is outdated i didn't feel.
Speaker 3: THAT way after this series i felt like he was
Speaker 3: making a lot of like the good decisions and the
Speaker 3: good plays of, what he's supposed to do and then
Speaker 3: eventually was looking, around halfway, through a game you know
Speaker 3: the last one exclude or whichever one, they were, down forty,
Speaker 3: at you know at halftime like, looking around, like, you
Speaker 3: know and going hey is? Anyone? Gonna join me here yeah?
Speaker 3: Does anyone want to play and then he would just
Speaker 3: kind of have to take this on himself and either
Speaker 3: run out of gas or he just didn't, have it or,
Speaker 3: you know like you said like sometimes it's gonna drop
Speaker 3: fifty and sometimes he's just gonna.
Speaker 2: Be a golden.
Speaker 3: Doodle that IS just there and and i just that.
Speaker 3: Team is just mentally weak we've seen, it for three
Speaker 3: straight years and every time they, have an excuse every
Speaker 3: time and, when you're on year three it's like yeah
Speaker 3: but his toe hurt or, yeah but they had This or, yeah,
Speaker 3: but that, like okay great you can't yeah butt. Your
Speaker 3: way to. The championship you just can't and you're on,
Speaker 3: year three and this year none of those. Guys could
Speaker 3: hit a shot none of. THOSE guys wanted The ball
Speaker 3: i saw, Like, DONOVAN just GO like okay i guess,
Speaker 3: i have, to do this, you know, like you know.
Speaker 3: To like yeah he can everything you just said is,
Speaker 3: Is one hundred percent correct like he like he can
Speaker 3: do all those, quotes and all that stuff and it
Speaker 3: kind of turns you into Like The Guard version Of,
Speaker 3: karl anthony towns, in, minnesota right where like yeah that,
Speaker 3: all that speak is great but you kind of got.
Speaker 3: To deliver AT some point and but I looked around.
Speaker 3: And Like. MOBLEY shriveled up darius garland i know he had. The,
Speaker 3: toe injury and everything man that dude's never been. That
Speaker 3: Dude in the playoffs like I'M like he just like
Speaker 3: i was having this argument, with a couple of Friends
Speaker 3: Like if they Had Andrew, nemhard and said darius. Garland
Speaker 3: they win, That Series like you're right like indiana. Is
Speaker 3: a bunch of dogs, like those guys are. Tough those
Speaker 3: guys are fearless those guys are ready. To play In
Speaker 3: the playoffs nobody on. Cleveland WAS ready TO play and
Speaker 3: i just I look, AT that, and, i think i
Speaker 3: think yeah. You can run It back and the, whole
Speaker 3: tatum injury changes things but they're still gonna be soft
Speaker 3: next year when. It comes to, the postseason? I'm, still like,
Speaker 3: what changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right do.
Speaker 1: The knicks get it done it feels like they have. To,
Speaker 1: get it, done tomorrow yeah you know.
Speaker 3: THAT'S that's a great question i do kind, of, just
Speaker 3: think that was like are you gonna get that game
Speaker 3: Where you rally around the tatum injury and you're? At home,
Speaker 3: and shots fall But, man, It is the knicks right if,
Speaker 3: anybody was Gonna. Do it it's the knicks and this is.
Speaker 3: Still A really good team like i actually thought, the
Speaker 3: offense flowed really well and it helps when The, shots
Speaker 3: are falling for boston but they were forced to play.
Speaker 3: A more team oriented thing they didn't have like two
Speaker 3: guys who would just go one. On one and create
Speaker 3: stuff they really had to get into the lane and
Speaker 3: make that ball move and and and you know we
Speaker 3: saw that, In the second half especially and so if
Speaker 3: they Can Play That, way in madison square garden whether,
Speaker 3: the shots fall or not if they, play that style
Speaker 3: of ball It's. Going to FRUSTRATE the, KNICKS but like
Speaker 3: i Mean i gotta. TAKE the knicks HERE tomorrow i
Speaker 3: Just like i even the knicks got. To close this
Speaker 3: one Out we got to get knicks pacers Like round
Speaker 3: TWO for, THIS they just i man i would Feel
Speaker 3: So bad for the knicks fansas if, this one goes.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 3: Way THAT can't, HAPPEN.
Speaker 1: Yeah like i said i feel like that if they, don't,
Speaker 1: Get it done tomorrow man sunday is going. To, be nerve,
Speaker 1: racket tough yeah all right let's, MOVE over to YOU
Speaker 1: know i feel like I Was just waiting for jimmy
Speaker 1: butler to be who he was a couple of years
Speaker 1: Ago when he carried the heat.
Speaker 2: To The finals by.
Speaker 1: Himself after steph went down but Then you look at everything,
Speaker 1: minnesota CAN throw at, HIM and i don't know i
Speaker 1: still was kind of waiting for him to take over
Speaker 1: in a. Way that, Just never happened you know boston Can,
Speaker 1: look Really Connected without tatum and golden State. Is just
Speaker 1: lost Without steph so takeaways From Minnesota, Taking, CARE of
Speaker 1: golden state.
Speaker 3: Yeah i, mean they Just you know it's that miami
Speaker 3: team was built a Certain way to play around jimmy
Speaker 3: and maybe if there's more familiarity throughout a season, or
Speaker 3: a couple of seasons. Maybe you, can find that but
Speaker 3: one there there's not a lot of Shooting on that,
Speaker 3: team when, Steth's not there, you KNOW and AND two
Speaker 3: like i just i don't know that he was ready,
Speaker 3: TO do that you. Know i, don't know That you
Speaker 3: know You've Got jaden McDaniels and julis randall's playing the.
Speaker 3: Best ball of his life, And They've Got. You know nikkel,
Speaker 3: alexander walker they've got like they've just got a lot,
Speaker 3: Of guys that they like like you said That they
Speaker 3: can throw at jimmy and and there's just not a.
Speaker 3: Lot of space, In there and, You know minnesota's you
Speaker 3: know minnesota might be The better team even when, Steph is. There,
Speaker 3: like that minnesota's good yeah. This is a good team
Speaker 3: they're turned the ball over a, lot and they you
Speaker 3: know if they play okay, see in the next round they.
Speaker 3: Have to clean that up but that is a team
Speaker 3: that can't like they're good. Enough, to win a.
Speaker 1: Championship, YEAH yeah, they are no i agree probably should
Speaker 1: have been paying more attention to.
Speaker 2: Them than, most people.
Speaker 1: WERE all right Final thing i won't write denver off
Speaker 1: until they're done because of The, Respect to, have for
Speaker 1: jokic but Man Are they thin and jamal murray. Is
Speaker 1: Questionable with an illness okay see is A five point
Speaker 1: favorite in denver tonight does it end or?
Speaker 2: Does it Go to seven in okac.
Speaker 3: It feels Like this series deserves. THE game seven right
Speaker 3: now I also feel like that game seven could be
Speaker 3: a forty Five. Point WIN for the thunder LIKE i
Speaker 3: don't think we're i don't think, we're GUARANTEED a.
Speaker 7: Great finish but i do feel like.
Speaker 3: WE'RE guaranteed a game seven i think We're gonna, get
Speaker 3: a great jokic game regardless, he had three miserable games
Speaker 3: and he was, he was fantastic last game even though.
Speaker 3: His TEAMMATES let him down is i just? The role
Speaker 3: players at home. They got to play better they at
Speaker 3: least got to hit a couple of shots in. The
Speaker 3: fourth quarter they hit if they hit like four, Shots
Speaker 3: in the fourth. Quarter denver wins that, game like they
Speaker 3: hit one. They hit one around him, if they, hit
Speaker 3: four more they. Like they WIN that game and so
Speaker 3: i don't. THINK that's, Asking, a lot i think okay
Speaker 3: see on the road might. Struggle A little bit there
Speaker 3: so i'm gonna. Say THEY get it done but i
Speaker 3: have zero Confidence in Anybody not named nikola, Jokicch.
Speaker 1: I'm with you there zach, good, To talk to you.
Speaker 1: Man it's been too long glad the travelers went. Well
Speaker 1: and enjoy.
Speaker 2: The Games we'll, CHAT.
Speaker 3: Too ballet oh dear.
Speaker 2: I had to do it it was such a. Good interview.
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Speaker 1: Gonna go live to, denver not as a show, it's
Speaker 1: Too Late, for that but Tony Jones, who covers the
Speaker 1: denver nuggets will give us a preview. Of The massive
Speaker 1: game Tonight the Thunder Are in denver at ball Arena To,
Speaker 1: take ON the denver nuggets and okc is actually a.
Speaker 1: Four point five point favorite news came down about an
Speaker 1: hour And A half ago that jamal murray is, officially
Speaker 1: questionable with An illness and of course denver is. Fighting
Speaker 1: FOR their, playoff lives if okc Wins They Advanced to
Speaker 1: the western conference Finals To, take on the minnesota Timberwolves
Speaker 1: Who Dispatched of the golden state warriors last night with relatives.
Speaker 1: Won TWENTY one to one ten i was a great
Speaker 1: Knight For, former jazz man mike connelly Who kind Of.
Speaker 1: Captured the fountain of youth hit four three, point shots
Speaker 1: at sixteen points. Eight Assists and six, rebounds rudy. Gobert
Speaker 1: seventeen points eight boards so a. Couple of former Jazz
Speaker 1: Men In, addition to nikhil Alexander walker they also have,
Speaker 1: joe ingles on The. Bench so happy for minnesota bummed
Speaker 1: To Not be, watching the stephen curry experience and you
Speaker 1: have to wonder whether or not this is the Final.
Speaker 2: Time we'll even.
Speaker 1: See steph although he was hurt missed, the final couple
Speaker 1: of games there were some conversation that he might come.
Speaker 2: Back and play last, night gave it a go.
Speaker 1: Was Not Able to go and jimmy butler never fully
Speaker 1: was able to capture that ball dominant scoring prowess we've
Speaker 1: seen from him in. The Playoffs in the past And
Speaker 1: Minnesota Advances to the western conference finals. For the, second
Speaker 1: straight year you know it's funny we, do this thing
Speaker 1: ABOUT trades and that's. WHY i hate trade grades i respect,
Speaker 1: the people to do it and it's. Part of the media.
Speaker 1: Game you gotta do it your boss likes you to
Speaker 1: do it because listeners. Like to check it out readers
Speaker 1: want to click on a trade grade to see if.
Speaker 1: Your team won the trade and If you remember When
Speaker 1: The jazz, made the go bear trade it was more
Speaker 1: Or less Consensus. THAT the jazz fleeced minnesota i was
Speaker 1: not as adamant. That that was the deal now there's
Speaker 1: plenty of time left to see what the Draft picks
Speaker 1: manifest for the jazz as opposed to, analyzing this deal
Speaker 1: right now but you always have.
Speaker 2: To wait, And See it of.
Speaker 1: Course walker kesser was part of that deal and he's Been,
Speaker 1: really GOOD for the jazz and i think he's part
Speaker 1: Of the core. Of the jazz moving forward But there's
Speaker 1: A Reason why minnesota and tim connley is one of
Speaker 1: the best, general managers in pro basketball the Guy That's
Speaker 1: credited with Finding Nicola. Jokich for the denver nuggets we're
Speaker 1: so willing to give up that draft capital and some
Speaker 1: Young pieces in exchange for rudy because you can see
Speaker 1: that he continues to impact winning and he Really Outplayed
Speaker 1: his old buddy. Draymond green, in the series Of course
Speaker 1: as connected, as Boston looked last night as boston was
Speaker 1: able to Extend the series with, the knicks to six
Speaker 1: Games That Goes back to madison square garden where we'll
Speaker 1: find It tomorrow. At six o'clock mountain. Time boston looked.
Speaker 1: Really good they looked connected their, Defensive effort Was Really solid,
Speaker 1: they bothered, new york shooters and offensively the ball popped
Speaker 1: in a. Way That sometimes it doesn't with Tatum on
Speaker 1: the floor because tatum is a, bit of a ball.
Speaker 1: Stopper even though He's awesome as Connected As, Boston Looked
Speaker 1: against new york golden State. Is so lost without, curry it's,
Speaker 1: very very obvious of, course To Make that statement because.
Speaker 1: Stephen curry is, generationally SPECIAL so last, night As I
Speaker 1: refer hin the boston celtics were able to Get It
Speaker 1: Done against THE New york knicks at Td garden, front
Speaker 1: of a roush's crowd one twenty. Seven to one oh
Speaker 1: two really Was the Third Quarter where boston outscored new.
Speaker 1: York thirty, two to, seventeen fourth quarter you know the
Speaker 1: next made a, little Bit of a comeback. But boston
Speaker 1: could not Miss and right now the celtics have outscored
Speaker 1: the next plus ninety in this series, from the three
Speaker 1: point line which is who they.
Speaker 2: Are And what they do derek white.
Speaker 1: Seven Of thirteen from three derek white has hit thirteen
Speaker 1: three point shots. In The past two games peyton pritchard
Speaker 1: came off the bench Played thirty nine minutes as. Tatum
Speaker 1: was on the sideline he had seventeen. Five of fourteen
Speaker 1: from three he was six, of seventeen from the floor
Speaker 1: though randomly Enough as a result of christaps, porzingis either not,
Speaker 1: being right not, being healthy or being hurt or simply.
Speaker 1: Forgetting How to play basketball joe mizzoula polled him after
Speaker 1: twelve minutes and he didn't play. The rest of the
Speaker 1: game and that was the move that may have made
Speaker 1: This Thing completely UNTENABLE for new york because i Don't
Speaker 1: Know who the hell, luke cornett thinks he Is But
Speaker 1: he played like bill russell, last night twenty six minutes made,
Speaker 1: all five of, his shots, had ten points nine rebounds
Speaker 1: and seven block Shots to really bother, the Knicks At.
Speaker 2: The rim and new york could not get anything.
Speaker 1: Going really from the outside miles, McBride Had a good
Speaker 1: game josh hart, randomly went five of, nine which he
Speaker 1: never does but mckel bridges FOUR or fourteen, og who i,
Speaker 1: love man that's, my Guy One of twelve and jalen
Speaker 1: brown Took The assignment of guarding jalen brunson and.
Speaker 2: For the most.
Speaker 1: Part, Turned His water off now jalen brunson did finish
Speaker 1: with twenty, two points and six assists but he needed,
Speaker 1: seventeen shots to do it only hit one of four.
Speaker 1: From three nine free. Throws that's a. Good number you
Speaker 1: like that But We'll See if the new york knicks
Speaker 1: can GET. It done, tomorrow at msg if Not they're
Speaker 1: going Back to Boston for a sunday afternoon Game Seven.
Speaker 1: Tilt against the. Boston celtics, so playoff basketball of course
Speaker 1: we'll have that, game On the station Tonight. The thunder
Speaker 1: and the nuggets we will bring That To you right
Speaker 1: after tony Jones. Stops BY Live in denver the pga
Speaker 1: championship is Going On Right Now at Quail, Hollow Golf.
Speaker 1: Club In charlotte north. Carolina xander schafflesier. Defending Champ some
Speaker 1: interesting storylines jordan speith Is Attempting. TO win the grand
Speaker 1: Slam i think this Is Jordan's, tenth TRY the grand
Speaker 1: slam and i don't know that he's. EVEN gonna Make
Speaker 1: the cut i believe jordan was in the. Clubhouse at
Speaker 1: four over par he MAY have bogeyed the last i
Speaker 1: have not, been watching because. You Know we're doing radio
Speaker 1: but jordan dumped his approach, on eighteen into the water
Speaker 1: and it looks like he did finish at five over seventy,
Speaker 1: six is what, he carded five over par which is
Speaker 1: tied for, One hundred and twenty ninth So The quest
Speaker 1: for the grand slam is probably not. Going to happen
Speaker 1: this year but this golf course has caused a lot
Speaker 1: of issues for some of the. Best Golfers in the
Speaker 1: world phil nicholson eight over parr probably not.
Speaker 2: Going To, make the cut dustin? Johnson Where?
Speaker 1: Have you gone dustin johnson live golf stole that dude's
Speaker 1: GAME seven Over par for dj cam smith another. Live
Speaker 1: golfer five over par Once upon. A time a major
Speaker 1: champ it is a shame that what that league has
Speaker 1: done to some of the. Best Golfers in the World
Speaker 1: Sergio garcia four over. Brooks koepka four over all. The
Speaker 1: live guys are struggling rory. McElroy cards is seventy four
Speaker 1: he's at Three over par.
Speaker 2: As his, patrick can't.
Speaker 1: Lay goodness gracious some of the best GOLFERS in the word,
Speaker 1: J T two over par.
Speaker 2: Max homa two over par let's give a. Little love to?
Speaker 1: The leaders how about that the problem is most of
Speaker 1: the best golfers in the world not on, this leaderboard
Speaker 1: as of now.
Speaker 2: At Least at the top ryan.
Speaker 1: Gerard is five under par he card, it his Sixty
Speaker 1: Six today as is cam davis who rallied. Laid For
Speaker 1: A Sixty six luke donald Ryder cup captain for the
Speaker 1: europeans and formally the number one player in the world.
Speaker 1: Even at his advanced age he cards a four under
Speaker 1: par For Second place Along With. Steven Jaeger and alex smalley,
Speaker 1: Aaron Riot four under, par matt Fitzpatrick Three, Hundred So.
Speaker 1: IS kegan bradley victor hobland i believe he birdied the
Speaker 1: final two holes to. Card A three under par scotty
Speaker 1: scheffler despite, a double bogie on sixteen also at. Two
Speaker 1: under par as well so we have a major. Championship
Speaker 1: going on right, Now Just so you know, tony finaw,
Speaker 1: with a good not great solid seventy which is a
Speaker 1: one underscore which ties him at thirty one and.
Speaker 2: Keeps him in the mix had only four.
Speaker 1: Shots back after one round so the afternoon groups are
Speaker 1: finishing up as of now as far. As major championship
Speaker 1: golf goes so. That's kind of the deal WE'VE got a.
Speaker 1: Lot of, Nba playoff stuff of course we've been talking
Speaker 1: a lot today trying to move on From, The disappointment
Speaker 1: of the jazz i'll say falling to five, because that
Speaker 1: was their floor but they only had a. Fourteen percent
Speaker 1: chance at one the odds and the percentages did indicate
Speaker 1: the most Likely land spot for the, jazz were four
Speaker 1: and five and. Unfortunately they FELL the five so the
Speaker 1: nba combine, is going on right now and so we've,
Speaker 1: been doing some draft stuff trying to move on from
Speaker 1: the disappointment and analyze who, could be there at five
Speaker 1: because even though we Were all hoping that the Jazz Would,
Speaker 1: land one in cooper flag they will get.
Speaker 2: A good player at five and, as the combine rolls along.
Speaker 1: Some Interesting, storylines manifesting themselves ace bailey who at one
Speaker 1: point was thought to be a short Fire Number three
Speaker 1: Pick After. Cooper flag and dylan Harper ace was listed
Speaker 1: by rutgers all year. As a six' ten wing he.
Speaker 1: Measured six, To seven without shoes side note why? Are
Speaker 1: we measuring players without shoes that. Has never made sense
Speaker 1: to me?
Speaker 2: Are?
Speaker 1: We playing barefoot moving forward like? It, doesn't, make sense
Speaker 1: to me like hey he's it's like fletch six six?
Speaker 1: But six' nine with the afro why do we why
Speaker 1: do we. Measure players of the combine without shoes it
Speaker 1: makes zero sense to me.
Speaker 4: Or just measure all. Of them with shoes or with
Speaker 4: that it just. Has to be the same either way you.
Speaker 7: JUST have.
Speaker 5: TO have SOME uniformity there i think.
Speaker 4: I think i like with shoes because that's, the, that's
Speaker 4: the basketball player you get right that's the guy that's
Speaker 4: going out there, on the floor throwing his, basketball shoes
Speaker 4: get his vertical, to leap get his, get his measurements
Speaker 4: and uh that's uh that's the.
Speaker 5: Guy, you get when. You get drafted well.
Speaker 2: That's the point this, isn't beach volleyball when. You play basketball.
Speaker 2: CALL me old Fashion.
Speaker 1: You wear shoes i think So usually we're not, playing
Speaker 1: in the dominican ON the beach you're. Playing in the
Speaker 1: nba on hardwood floors. It has, never, made any sense
Speaker 1: me he's. Like, hey he's six two without? Shoes okay
Speaker 1: what is he, with shoes because when he. Plays, basketball
Speaker 1: he's wearing his basketball shoes yeah.
Speaker 4: THERE'S ALREADY like a want and a, i i, guess
Speaker 4: a culture of like you know adding. An inch or
Speaker 4: two to your, Hype just get some uniformity on it just.
Speaker 4: Get some get something across the.
Speaker 1: Board studies show that eighty eight percent of women on
Speaker 1: dating apps will not engage with men.
Speaker 2: That are shorter than five five? Eight have your what
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 5: Have you think? Listening six to.
Speaker 2: Two now, your business i'm legitimately? SIX feet man are
Speaker 2: you five, eleven i.
Speaker 4: Was gonna say every man like ninety percent of men
Speaker 4: that are six feet.
Speaker 5: ARE like five eleven, in, a quarter, i HAVE.
Speaker 1: A friend okay so, really if i, went to the, doctor,
Speaker 1: he would say you're five eleven right that's tall.
Speaker 2: Enough for me to list six feet.
Speaker 5: You get measured, With your shoes off.
Speaker 2: But moving forward.
Speaker 1: I'M getting measured with my shoes on i have a
Speaker 1: friend who legitimately is forty, six years old and five,
Speaker 1: to five and on his dating app.
Speaker 2: He's forty years old.
Speaker 1: And five nine, it's, like the most it's so egregious
Speaker 1: though because if you show up to the date and
Speaker 1: they're expecting someone like he's not he's, five nine and,
Speaker 1: he puts five five or excuse me he's five to
Speaker 1: five and. He puts five nine on his profile it'd
Speaker 1: be one, thing to, put five eight on there you
Speaker 1: know or, like exaggerate by an inch or two but
Speaker 1: four inches wouldn't you show, Up to the date.
Speaker 2: And, be like i'm leaving you liar.
Speaker 5: Well that's that's.
Speaker 4: The it's one thing on a baskets so the team,
Speaker 4: that's scouting, you in, in high school you know you
Speaker 4: know maybe. They look at you a little differently like
Speaker 4: everyone on my basketball, roster in, high school. Was six
Speaker 4: one six two six' three there was like one person on.
Speaker 5: My team that was actually over six foot.
Speaker 4: But when you're showing up for a date like that person's,
Speaker 4: going to probably call. You out, on it or at,
Speaker 4: least notice.
Speaker 1: Of course they're going to notice like you're four, inches
Speaker 1: shorter than you, said on the app. And by the
Speaker 1: way seven years younger Too at what point do you're gonna,
Speaker 1: get you're gonna, get to the conversation like wait a
Speaker 1: second you're forty seven and not forty you're.
Speaker 2: Already, FIVE to five, and, NOT five nine like i.
Speaker 1: DON'T know man i think it's a problem i think,
Speaker 1: you need to be accurate with the. Information both IN.
Speaker 1: Life and ON dating apps that's, MY psa the day.
Speaker 4: I agree with you i agree with you, i think
Speaker 4: with combine stuff, with the, draft with with all of it.
Speaker 4: You know let's, just put, it out. There transparency is.
Speaker 1: Key well said you know the other dirty trick is
Speaker 1: a picture with like your three hottest.
Speaker 5: Friends, and you don't know, which ones, which.
Speaker 2: Yeah and then you're? Like all right so? Who are
Speaker 2: you exactly, which one are you and by the, way
Speaker 2: the ones that have the group pictures.
Speaker 1: They're always the ones That's the, least, attractive maybe, maybe
Speaker 1: they thrown yeah no no trust.
Speaker 2: Me, have pictures that. Are up to date.
Speaker 1: Okay STOP fooling people, We're Living, in society if i,
Speaker 1: can go george costanza, accurate with your height accurate with
Speaker 1: the pictures not.
Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago when you were in.
Speaker 5: College, oh we still talked about.
Speaker 2: The, draft yes we, are who we are hey you.
Speaker 2: Got us you, got, a soft track there i'm just
Speaker 2: saying look we.
Speaker 1: Don't need to measure these, prospects without shoes It, makes
Speaker 1: zero sense anyway before you break, uh it Appears to be,
Speaker 1: as of now with the jazz at five one, Of
Speaker 1: The following Three players should Be Available. Ace bailey vj,
Speaker 1: edgecombe and then trey johnson, my Guess is and this
Speaker 1: is a guess and june twenty.
Speaker 2: Fifth is still a number of weeks away one.
Speaker 1: Of those three will fall, to five in Whichever of
Speaker 1: the three falls. That's, who the Jazz are going To,
Speaker 1: take now There's the mallawatch Kid From. Duke but the
Speaker 1: jazz already have walker Kessler, if you want To. Go
Speaker 1: kN k Nipple Go kN k Nipple i'm Not Sure
Speaker 1: jonathan Gavoni, has the jazz drafting jeremiah fears from oklahoma
Speaker 1: who is a Small Guard. REMINDS a lot of people
Speaker 1: Of jalen brunson i don't know if the, jazz really
Speaker 1: want to go in that direction but It's time to
Speaker 1: put the disappointment of the jazz falling to. Five aside
Speaker 1: and analyze who they. Could Take this is a good.
Speaker 1: Vibe song doobie, brothers, always good VIBE song in a
Speaker 1: Way Randomly.
Speaker 2: You and i.
Speaker 1: Are actually the doobie brothers in a way it's one
Speaker 1: OF the weirdest CONNECTIONS that we have because i swore
Speaker 1: like i was never going to MEET anyone. Else that
Speaker 1: had the same nickname i do, and MY grandfather may
Speaker 1: he rest, in peace when I Was two years old
Speaker 1: started calling me spencer. DOOBIE and my man lds his
Speaker 1: entire life i don't. Think he fully Knew What he
Speaker 1: was doing he nicknamed me spencer dooby And my family
Speaker 1: still This to my COUSIN chad still. Calls me doobey
Speaker 1: every time i see him and, you have the same connection.
Speaker 1: Through your father which is the most Random So. Technically
Speaker 1: we kind of are the doobie brothers.
Speaker 4: We are in some way now a little different. Because
Speaker 4: my family definitely did know the. Connotation it really knew
Speaker 4: what they were doing it was my dad was like
Speaker 4: wrapped up in a little Blanket and looked like, a
Speaker 4: little a little doobie and, my aunt my aunt coined
Speaker 4: him That, name and he was LITERALLY known as like
Speaker 4: there are people that i run into today that knew.
Speaker 4: My dad that never Knew, his real name they knew
Speaker 4: him as doobie. So that WAS like That Was his thing.
Speaker 4: And then i was, Doobie, Junior after. That so, There
Speaker 4: you go yeah doobie brothers.
Speaker 2: All right so we.
Speaker 1: GOT a little playoff action coming your way i ran
Speaker 1: into a little BIT of an issue on the, program
Speaker 1: and i elected to take one, route so, little WARM
Speaker 1: in the studio today. NOT bad but i ran out
Speaker 1: of time, i HAD a bunch of errands to run
Speaker 1: so I Came straight. To the show from the, no big.
Speaker 1: Deal IT'S part of the life just grinded so i
Speaker 1: was about to take the sweatshirt, off because it.
Speaker 2: WAS warm tank top underneath you know.
Speaker 4: What, I took THAT to a another level recently i
Speaker 4: realized I had the zip.
Speaker 5: UP jacket on because i, was AT home i was
Speaker 5: doing some.
Speaker 4: Chores BUT i didn't have anything UNDERNEATH it and i
Speaker 4: got a, call AND i left my house super QUICKLY
Speaker 4: and I was out and about and i realized i.
Speaker 4: Literally DID have a shirt underneath the jacket and i
Speaker 4: unzipped it and, there was not even a tank.
Speaker 5: Top, THERE but, had to keep, the.
Speaker 1: Jacket well i mean we're on YouTube so i'm not
Speaker 1: going to do the, Whole like no tank tops on
Speaker 1: YouTube now i'm not going to do the. TANK top
Speaker 1: thing on YouTube unless. SOMEBODY incentivized i.
Speaker 5: Think it's an espn thing i. Think that's what we
Speaker 5: were supposed to.
Speaker 2: Do does McAfee still?
Speaker 3: Do the?
Speaker 1: Tank, Top thing on the show all, right anyway i'll
Speaker 1: do it guns suns out. Guns out if you want
Speaker 1: to incentivize us we'll. Do The show in tank tops
Speaker 1: one day.
Speaker 5: Get roan to.
Speaker 4: SPONSOR a tank top segment there we, go i, know a,
Speaker 4: guy over this, summer all Right, Playoff basketball calling your?
Speaker 1: Away coming out porter what Comes our way on a,
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