Speaker 1: Work ethic. So let's take that into account the next
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people kind of, especially if you
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Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance. I'm sure everybody does right, because ultimately we're
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Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that there are things that I don't
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Speaker 1: done better being faithful to the Orthodox tradition. Generally speaking.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that that there's nobody righteous amongst the
Speaker 1: Greek Orthodox or anything. I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 1: Just for example, you know, Rokor had the nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: two or three statement, for example, condemning acumenism. And while
Speaker 1: there are many people in the Greek churches who are
Speaker 1: anti ecumenist, the hierarchy typically is pro acumenists, so I
Speaker 1: think that there's reasons like that, and also beyond any
Speaker 1: of the theology stuff, I just ended up vibing really
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Speaker 1: been a very awesome person in my life. Have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for him, and everybody that meets him
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Speaker 1: pretty good Progresser, Jeff, what have you been up to?
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Speaker 2: Things as a machine and unfortunately so if your car breaks,
Speaker 2: cars were always easy to fix, My jets, my cars.
Speaker 2: If it breaks, I know it can be fixed because
Speaker 2: it simply follows the same pattern. If this part breaks,
Speaker 2: you replace the plot and the thing works again. People
Speaker 2: and the financial system are not machines. They can't be
Speaker 2: fixed the same way. You can simply take out the butt,
Speaker 2: put some more juice into the commercial paper market, and
Speaker 2: that's like replacing the oator on the car. It's much more.
Speaker 2: I have a patient who can't breathe has a stomach problem,
Speaker 2: can't see this, looks bleeding at the same time, what
Speaker 2: do I do? First? I have to think about it
Speaker 2: as a system. Where's the most logical place, what's the
Speaker 2: most dangerous place? If your heart stop, we have to
Speaker 2: start your heart again. If in the equivalent to the
Speaker 2: money market, why do I have to start your heart again?
Speaker 2: You need to get your blood flowing. If your blood stops,
Speaker 2: you're dead. If liquidity, which is the equivalent of blood
Speaker 2: in the financial system, dries up and.
Speaker 5: Once like liquid is basically cash, putting cash until.
Speaker 2: He gets that's what it is, Okay. Liquidity is liquidity.
Speaker 2: It allows the system. It's the blood of the system.
Speaker 2: You need to pump blood hard into the body of
Speaker 2: the economy to keep it flowing. And if you're especially
Speaker 2: when you're worried about someone dying, you're not going to
Speaker 2: be worried about the niceties of well, you got the
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Speaker 2: keep that.
Speaker 5: Hort you talk to to the person in treasure on
Speaker 5: Tuesday the sixteenth, did you get a feeling as you
Speaker 5: were sitting in your six x nine jail cell in
Speaker 5: West Palm Beach, Florida, that they were on top of things.
Speaker 2: No, you can't, it's impossible to be on top of things.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing. It's again the doctor watching the
Speaker 2: patient die. You hopefully have some confidence and he's seen
Speaker 2: it before. He recognizes that there's some steps he has
Speaker 2: to take first before he bandages the guy's finger, worries
Speaker 2: about what shoes he has on. So you hope that
Speaker 2: the people in charge your doctors who are working on
Speaker 2: the emergency patient have enough experience and frankly judgment to
Speaker 2: try to keep the patient to life.
Speaker 5: And I think did you think that they had those
Speaker 5: things patients and judgment?
Speaker 2: They had pretty good judgment and you needed a lot
Speaker 2: of luck. Just like in the dead patient. You need
Speaker 2: to hopefully you put that blad in and it's not
Speaker 2: too late, and you maybe you make some mistakes, but
Speaker 2: you have to know you can have to give it
Speaker 2: a shock.
Speaker 5: In the run up to the September crash of two
Speaker 5: thousand and eight, I guess you weren't occupied with finance
Speaker 5: that whole summer. How long had you been in jail?
Speaker 2: I went to jail June thirtieth.
Speaker 5: So the entire summer.
Speaker 1: So our good buddy Banana up the butt. One of
Speaker 1: the fattest super chatters over your shout out to him.
Speaker 1: He's always given these big fat daddy wore bucks super jess.
Speaker 1: He says, for one hundred dollars, Jay. The genius Epstein
Speaker 1: stuff is legend. It's legend building. Yes, this is a
Speaker 1: great point in intelligence operations and intelligence cover. You build
Speaker 1: a legend which is your backstory, and it needs to
Speaker 1: be plausible. It needs to have, you know, some credibility.
Speaker 1: It needs to have some des it can be verified
Speaker 1: to make it plausible to other people that, oh, you
Speaker 1: are a money manager and you worked at bear Stearns
Speaker 1: and you had a math degree and you were at
Speaker 1: you know, Bill Barr's Oss Front School. Yeah, so okay,
Speaker 1: you're you're a good dude. His system building stuff, or
Speaker 1: the systems analysis that he talks about, is a mix
Speaker 1: of the infamous document Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, which
Speaker 1: we covered on my channel. That curious document. I think
Speaker 1: it is real. It describes a systemic analysis of the
Speaker 1: global architecture. It was discovered I think in a NSA
Speaker 1: or Rank corporation machine kind of laid a in a
Speaker 1: copy machine years ago. It reads like a real white
Speaker 1: paper to me, like a real policy paper at a
Speaker 1: high level. We did a talk on the silent weapons
Speaker 1: paper maybe four years ago on the Channel, and it does.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you called that to memory here because it
Speaker 1: does sound like the type of analysis that Jeff Stein
Speaker 1: is giving. And you say it sounds like Rank corporation
Speaker 1: stuff exactly exactly. Rank Corporation, of course has a lot
Speaker 1: of mathematicians and tech level people, including neo conservatives and
Speaker 1: Jewish Trotskyite neo conservatives like Volstetter Herman Kahn, all of
Speaker 1: whom kind of formulated the idea of the Cold War
Speaker 1: and usually set destruction rational choice theory. All that comes
Speaker 1: out of the Rank Corporation. And by the way, we've
Speaker 1: done a lecture on alex Obeya's Rank Corporation book, Soldiers
Speaker 1: of Reason. It's one of the global elite texts. Allergya
Speaker 1: drove me crazy, and we did a mini documentary on
Speaker 1: RAND that I put on Twitter the other day. Of course,
Speaker 1: this's got no views. Nobody cares about this. It's the
Speaker 1: real information. So allow me to fresh your memory. RAND
Speaker 1: is another one of the top think tanks that has
Speaker 1: engineered modern America. Kubrick doctor Strangelov in Dark Secrets of
Speaker 1: the Rain Corporation. Of course doctor Strangelov is satirizing the
Speaker 1: Rain Corporation. And there's that. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: did talk to Vivian again, and Vivian says, let's do
Speaker 1: the interview in a couple weeks. So props to Vivian Kubrick.
Speaker 1: We will be doing our interview finally, and we will
Speaker 1: also be talking about film some. She does not want
Speaker 1: to only talk film, which is understandable if I was
Speaker 1: Sean Stone or Vivian Kubrick or whoever else, they're probably
Speaker 1: sick of talking about Oliver Stone or Stanley Kubrick movies.
Speaker 1: But she did say we would talk about some films
Speaker 1: and not just Kubrick films. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: films that she described as anti tyranny films, and so
Speaker 1: she said, can you suggest some, and just sort of
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, I said, well, we've
Speaker 1: got you know, they live as a kind of a
Speaker 1: classic conspiracy movie. We've got lives of others. I forget
Speaker 1: what I might have said, snow Piercer. I just listed
Speaker 1: a few suggestions. So now, Viva Vendetta is a little
Speaker 1: a little iffy. I mean, I mean it's kind of
Speaker 1: anti establishment, but it's also kind of a siah because
Speaker 1: it presents the establishment as a Christian theocracy. Come on, dude,
Speaker 1: that's like Handmaiden's Tail level bullshit. It's like, who really
Speaker 1: believes that the threat to Western civilization is a Christian democracy?
Speaker 1: R rusa fifty dollars. If your goal is quote truth,
Speaker 1: why is your brand of apologetics perfectly mirror Giazimov's doctrine
Speaker 1: for using spiritual moral values to destabilize a target population
Speaker 1: to trust and their trust and their own national institutions.
Speaker 1: So he's he's referring to the Russian doctrine of operations,
Speaker 1: which is active measures and their policy of calling out
Speaker 1: corruption in other countries. So, because Russia is a smaller
Speaker 1: geopolitical operator in comparison to the rest of the Atlantisis establishment,
Speaker 1: they opted for a strategy of calling out corruption and
Speaker 1: focusing on real stories.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So, in other words, if you look at art, for example,
Speaker 1: a lot of rt IS broadcasting over the last fifteen
Speaker 1: years has been focused on conspiracy topics, things that are
Speaker 1: focused on elite corruption I'm talking about now. A lot
Speaker 1: of that is leftists too. By the way, but as
Speaker 1: an Orthodox Christian, I am not beholden to or affirming
Speaker 1: Giasmov's doctrine I don't go. I've never been to Russia.
Speaker 1: So he's sending the supertrasts to try to give the
Speaker 1: impression that although I have been invited to Russia three times,
Speaker 1: I've not gone to Russia. And as I said, Orthodox
Speaker 1: Christianity is in between two powers, especially during the Cold War.
Speaker 1: You have the CIA and British intelligence, and you have
Speaker 1: the KGB NAM KVD. So if we read this article
Speaker 1: here you get an overview. And by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: not affirming everything that this guy says. This guy ended
Speaker 1: up being I think he's been defrocked. But his article
Speaker 1: detailing the history of Cold War stuff and the Russian Church,
Speaker 1: if people want the actual history, it's called between two thieves,
Speaker 1: the KGB, the restaurants, Rock Church and the CIA. This
Speaker 1: is a good history of the nuances of this period.
Speaker 1: On top of that, I've actually interviewed and done discussions
Speaker 1: with people who are experts in the Cold War operations
Speaker 1: and the KGB. So if you go back to my
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Jonah interview, we have a history of the KGB
Speaker 1: and the Russian Church here, so you can check this
Speaker 1: out from a historical perspective anyway, So this is a
Speaker 1: person who I think is been indoctrinated into the Western
Speaker 1: approach to psychological warfare and indoctrination. And he's assuming then
Speaker 1: that if I attend a Russian Orthodox Church, which by
Speaker 1: the way, does not agree with everything that Putin does,
Speaker 1: Rocorp is not one percent on board with Putin. They
Speaker 1: will argue that because rocor went back into communion with Putin,
Speaker 1: that we're run by Putin. All of that is Neocon
Speaker 1: Pentagon strategy. So my question to you would be, why
Speaker 1: are you spouting the Neocon Pentagon strategy? And no, if
Speaker 1: I call out my government, that is me being a patriot.
Speaker 1: That is not me being a Russian stooge. So you're
Speaker 1: actually just undermining your own argumentation by saying that if
Speaker 1: I call out government corruption, that makes me a Russian agent. Dude,
Speaker 1: that's like Neocon gaslighting. One on one, So you explain
Speaker 1: to me why I should follow neoconservative doctrine and neo
Speaker 1: conservative war mongering. R rusa Free Reign Jay in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and one Dennis Bush now, PhD. There's a
Speaker 1: NASA presentation. Yes, we've covered this presentation because Burmas did
Speaker 1: a whole talk on it was really good. I read
Speaker 1: the presentation. It was deleted in twenty sixteen. You can
Speaker 1: still find it though, if you go to Burmas's lectures
Speaker 1: on it. It gets into like nanotech and all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: Any advice on how to read more and longer. Get
Speaker 1: used to audio podcasts. If you, for example, have a
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Speaker 1: listen to books. I mean, audiobooks are not as good
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Speaker 1: a job where you're having to do a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, activity type stuff, if you can try to,
Speaker 1: you know, try to listen By the way, one last
Speaker 1: note on the Russian doctrine of foreign operations. We did
Speaker 1: an interview with Dugan ten years ago. You can listen
Speaker 1: to the interview and multiple times over. After the interview,
Speaker 1: I gave my critique of Dugan's perennialism and the gnostic
Speaker 1: elements in his philosophy. So you can play the game
Speaker 1: of trying to read into my motives, which is interest
Speaker 1: because the first part of your comment says, if you
Speaker 1: are really after the truth, well, there's nothing more lame
Speaker 1: to try to argue than people's motives, because you can
Speaker 1: never prove or disprove motives unless you have some text
Speaker 1: or comment where I say to say, hahaha, I secretly
Speaker 1: have bad motives, but they will never know. Like outside
Speaker 1: of that, you can never prove or disprove anyone's motives.
Speaker 1: So to just bring that up is like the lowest
Speaker 1: tier of debate and it's more like gaslighting. Beck evangelist
Speaker 1: ten dollars. I want to apologize for what I said
Speaker 1: to you and how I acted on X a while back.
Speaker 1: I was ignorant and spite and I'm ashamed of myself
Speaker 1: for what I said to you. God bless you. And
Speaker 1: keep doing your work. Well, hey, I appreciate that Beck Evangelis.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people reach out to apologize. This
Speaker 1: week should be nothing but apologies. But I didn't expect it,
Speaker 1: So that's okay. All right, let's break it up a
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Speaker 5: On you.
Speaker 6: You know what's up, Hi Jay, Let me go find
Speaker 6: the question because I have ever written down. I would
Speaker 6: want to know your opinion on the on Patrioch Krills.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever went over it.
Speaker 6: But his his statement on serving for the Russian military,
Speaker 6: You'll be cleansing all your sins if you die in Ukraine.
Speaker 4: I just want to know you're like your opinion.
Speaker 1: I think the ro Corps bishop said that that might
Speaker 1: be going a little too far. But if he actually
Speaker 1: said that, no, just being in the military doesn't cleanse
Speaker 1: your sins. But my assumption would be that there's probably
Speaker 1: more context to that and the Russian statement on Church
Speaker 1: State Relations from twenty twelve or twenty sixteen, that famous
Speaker 1: document that actually says no, it's there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: defending and supporting your homeland, and that is a noble
Speaker 1: and perhaps even a martyr's death. So in terms of
Speaker 1: the context of the Russian tradition, there's nothing actually wrong
Speaker 1: with dying for your nation or for your homeland. That's
Speaker 1: a Christian principle that's been exemplified for two thousand years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Jay, I knew about you know, dying
Speaker 6: for your homeland and protecting your people.
Speaker 5: That's a noble cause.
Speaker 6: But thank you for clearing it up and letting me know,
Speaker 6: because my friend was asking me about it and he
Speaker 6: wanted to know what your opinion on it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: Not listening to anybody criticizing that comment if they're from
Speaker 1: the Roman Catholic domain, because the popes said the exact
Speaker 1: same thing about the Crusades. But also, I mean, is
Speaker 1: that really what he said or is that just what
Speaker 1: Western media is saying that he said. I want to
Speaker 1: see the full context. So but also a problem saying
Speaker 1: that Carol couldn't make theological mistakes. So what But you're
Speaker 1: no different than the It's no different than the pope. No,
Speaker 1: it is different. Carol's not a pope. Carol has nothing
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Speaker 1: Uh no, Actually he fell for the scam of like
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Speaker 1: because he was interested in every emerging tech. I mean
Speaker 1: he's interested in cloning DNA, neural networks AI. Oh, I
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Speaker 1: you're into Epstein. This is how stupid these people think
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Speaker 1: are USA ten dollars. You don't expose corruption. I've been
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Speaker 1: What is your evidence that I'm not independent? You're an
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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, that's all this, all of the people calling
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Speaker 1: like a march for life? I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: that old school activism stuff really does much. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the people, the reason people do marches and
Speaker 1: whatnot was to call attention to it in the old
Speaker 1: days of media. So I don't know how much public
Speaker 1: marches actually do in the era of new media. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I guess you could march for
Speaker 1: whatever you want to, but I don't know what that
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Speaker 1: So mister Anderson, what's up, yo? How's going? Hey?
Speaker 7: So I was in a conversation with a it was
Speaker 7: someone talking about, uh, the influence of neo Marxism in
Speaker 7: the US, and I was taking the position that similar
Speaker 7: to I think, you know, I think there's some substantial
Speaker 7: evidence showing uh, you know, institutional involvement in things like
Speaker 7: the drug revolution and the sexual revolution.
Speaker 4: And those sorts of things.
Speaker 9: And I was bringing up people like Kinsey and maybe
Speaker 9: their involvement.
Speaker 4: With Rockefellers what have you.
Speaker 1: And I was and I was trying.
Speaker 7: To make the point that I, you know, I think
Speaker 7: it's good reason to believe that things like all the
Speaker 7: critical theorists.
Speaker 9: And their promotion to the front of academia and the.
Speaker 7: Front liberation of their ideas was in some way institutionally
Speaker 7: motivated as well or you know, supported.
Speaker 5: And uh anyway, I was just wondering if you had any.
Speaker 4: Maybe like resources on that.
Speaker 9: I know that there's information out there about how Frankfurt
Speaker 9: School people worked with the OSS and c A during
Speaker 9: World Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would look into Wilhelm Reich. Wilhelm Reich was a
Speaker 1: Frankfurt School guy who was a big promoter of the
Speaker 1: sexual Revolution. I would get Rachel's book Occult Feminism. Rachel Wilson,
Speaker 1: the Rockefeller's authorized biography that you see behind me has
Speaker 1: an entire chapter on support for feminism. Right here, This
Speaker 1: is the David Horowitz Official Biography of the Rockefeller's whole
Speaker 1: chapter on Abbey Rockefeller funding Cell sixteen and radical femme
Speaker 1: stuff in the nineteen sixties. She put millions of dollars
Speaker 1: into it. I mean there's a lot Francis Stoner, Saunders,
Speaker 1: Cia and letters cultural cold War. I just read a
Speaker 1: few chapters the other day from what's the guy's name.
Speaker 1: I left the book in Florida, so I don't have
Speaker 1: it with me, but the one on Mockingbird Operation Mockingbird
Speaker 1: that gets in. There's an old chapter in that on
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got his hands and everything right, Him
Speaker 1: and just laying are interested in four Chan, they're interested
Speaker 1: in uh Reddit, they're interested in Hollywood pop music. I mean,
Speaker 1: what does that say? All right, let's get back to
Speaker 1: Jeff Stein here.
Speaker 5: Yes, before you went into jail, you were still very
Speaker 5: active in the financial markets.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 5: When you say active, you trade currencies every day, you
Speaker 5: trade stocks all day. When when people something like you
Speaker 5: or you give you give advice to people to trade
Speaker 5: stocks or trade currencies.
Speaker 2: I don't trade every day. I think that's like like
Speaker 2: whaty Allen said, you can't beat the bank.
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Speaker 2: I try to pick my spots, you know. Judge Sorrows
Speaker 2: picked his spot, and when the Pound collapsed, this would
Speaker 2: have been a great money making opportunity that passed me
Speaker 2: by when I was in jail. That's not how I say.
Speaker 5: In the run up to that, in the spring of
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, that's when Bear Stearns got in problems,
Speaker 5: I think in the spring of two thousand and eight
Speaker 5: and decided to bail it out. Did the Bear Searns.
Speaker 5: Guys talk to you for advice at that time. Then
Speaker 5: the big crisis and bear Serns.
Speaker 2: See again unbeknownst to most people. And it's easy to
Speaker 2: blame people for the financial crisis, like you'd blame the
Speaker 2: someone for giving your father the drink before he had
Speaker 2: his heart attack. But what really happened. The real enemy
Speaker 2: of the financial system was Bill Clinton. And if you
Speaker 2: asked me what and who closed the financial crisis, I
Speaker 2: would tell you it was Bill.
Speaker 5: Clinton because of what Bob Ruben and he did to
Speaker 5: the financial deregulate the financial system.
Speaker 2: No, because as the last time we had our sixty
Speaker 2: minute interview, you talked to me about home ownership and
Speaker 2: you asked me whether everyone should own a home and
Speaker 2: I told you no, it's too risky.
Speaker 5: So the financial collapse of two thousand and eight is
Speaker 5: because of hard working African Americans, Hispanics and whites, who.
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton is the fault of it. I mean, come on, dude,
Speaker 1: who actually believes that Bill Clinton was calling the shots.
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was chosen by David Rockefell under others as
Speaker 1: they bragged Builderberg to be the Rockefeller candidate. There's actual
Speaker 1: videos of that boy from tong Gat something Jay God bless,
Speaker 1: what's a good platform for buying bigcoin because swan is
Speaker 1: not supported in New Zealand. I don't know. You'd have
Speaker 1: to ask the chat. But I don't know about New Zealand.
Speaker 1: I didn't know they weren't supported there.
Speaker 5: Wanted to have a piece of have an ownership stake
Speaker 5: in the society that all rested on their shoulders. They're
Speaker 5: the culprits.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Okay, Then I didn't say that
Speaker 2: it comes I I was pretty clear with Bill Clinton, okay.
Speaker 2: And why was it Bill Clinton? Because Bill Clinton wanted
Speaker 2: to get votes from those people, and he sold them
Speaker 2: the idea that instead of renting in a house, and
Speaker 2: historically the values of houses has gone up, and he said,
Speaker 2: you guys, in these.
Speaker 1: Local communities, we're going to skip out a little bit.
Speaker 2: I refused to lend to mister Bannon. But now he
Speaker 2: has the big brother uncle. His uncles can do mathematics,
Speaker 2: they can be balanced their checkbooks. So certain people in
Speaker 2: Congress said, well, how do you value these prime mortgages
Speaker 2: the banks that we've been valuing them the same way
Speaker 2: we've always valued them for the past twenty years. The
Speaker 2: accounting firms. There is something in this country called gap accounting,
Speaker 2: which is the standard type of accounting, and we account
Speaker 2: for them the same way we always accounted for them.
Speaker 2: If we paid a thousand dollars for your mortgage last night,
Speaker 2: when we put it on our books today, we're going
Speaker 2: to say it's values of a thousand dollars. Just makes sense.
Speaker 2: I paid for it. Let what's its value? It's a
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That's why I pay for it last night. No,
Speaker 2: the congress people said, that's not really a good answer.
Speaker 2: You know that that doesn't give us confidence that you
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. Because what happens if you have
Speaker 2: to sell it tomorrow morning? If I use there, something's
Speaker 2: happened then you have to sell it. Remembers the kind
Speaker 2: of stress tests. Would you be able to value it
Speaker 2: at what you paid for it the day before? And
Speaker 2: wellst she says, that's not the way you can think
Speaker 2: about this. This is crazy. We always value things at
Speaker 2: the course from the day before, and they change the
Speaker 2: accounting method in essence to say, not what it was
Speaker 2: worth yesterday. But if I have to sell, what would
Speaker 2: it be worth? That's impossible. So what happens is every
Speaker 2: bank now has the value something that they put yesterday
Speaker 2: at lower than they paid.
Speaker 1: All right, the banking yapping is really getting old. We're
Speaker 1: gonna skip out a little bit to the philosophy's section.
Speaker 1: Ac don't have gold, bitcoin, money or real estate because
Speaker 1: the crooks try to manipulate those things. Just don't do anything.
Speaker 1: Epstein is everything. It's all Epstein, Epstein coin. Yes, put
Speaker 1: all your money in jeff coin boy from Tongaku. No,
Speaker 1: we did that. We got another one from Tory ten dollars.
Speaker 1: My husband and I are always we love your work.
Speaker 1: We're always watching you on the TV while I'm feeding
Speaker 1: my baby who's two months. Awesome, you help guide us orthodoxy. Cool,
Speaker 1: that's good here man. Anyways, did you see what Flintest
Speaker 1: has been saying? Well again, I mean, I would like
Speaker 1: to try to be a pauseive influence on Nick, if
Speaker 1: that's possible. So I reached out to Tim and to
Speaker 1: Ryan and other people who know Nick, and I said, hey, look,
Speaker 1: there's an open door all the branch if Nick would
Speaker 1: like to ever discuss anything, and it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be a debate because a lot of them took it
Speaker 1: as overly agro ol. Why is he just run a debate,
Speaker 1: He just wants get some attention. Okay, fine, we don't have
Speaker 1: to have a debate, we don't even have to have
Speaker 1: any kind of public chat or anything. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to grift or gain tradcat followers. I don't think those
Speaker 1: people would want to follow me anyway. So it's just
Speaker 1: it's the same with Elijah Shaeffer. Like when Elijah asked
Speaker 1: me about Orthodoxy and said, hey, can you put me
Speaker 1: in touch with Orthodox priests? I said, yeah, here's Father
Speaker 1: Moses' number, and they had one conversation so irrationally irritable
Speaker 1: ten dollars. Did you hear any of the rumors about
Speaker 1: bitcoin content creators saying a supposed planned, deliberate drop because
Speaker 1: Trump and company wants sixty K to load up for SBR.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that would explain the monster rebound
Speaker 1: at sixty I mean, I listened to several crypto channels
Speaker 1: explaining what they thought was going on. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of theories, so I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think one thing I saw that was a really good
Speaker 1: theory was it looks like a lot of people were
Speaker 1: over leveraged with betting on bitcoin and crypto, and then
Speaker 1: when that got wiped out, that tanked everything. But then
Speaker 1: some people were arguing also that there was intentional selling
Speaker 1: to try to tank it down. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that stuff goes on, you know, until bitcoin reaches maximum
Speaker 1: velocity globally, there will still be the four year cycle.
Speaker 1: Everybody should be aware of that. Stand fast, What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: Stand fast? What's up? Alfredy though, is actually platform to brainwash?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, I think it uses
Speaker 1: all the same techniques of all the social media platforms
Speaker 1: to keep people there. But I think if you look
Speaker 1: at the EU, they're trying to shut it down. So
Speaker 1: I don't think they'd be trying to shut it down
Speaker 1: if it wasn't doing damage.
Speaker 2: Never before in twenty years that they have to do this.
Speaker 2: So something they bought at a thousand, find the books
Speaker 2: was a thousand is now nine hundred and ninety.
Speaker 5: The bankrupcy of the drugel Burnham in ninety, emplosion of Japan,
Speaker 5: huge run up in equity markets for the Internet, implosion
Speaker 5: the Internet tw thousand, ten years later roughly, and then
Speaker 5: this run up through the Iraq War and all that
Speaker 5: to run up to two thousand and eight. Every ten years.
Speaker 5: It seems like we're in some sort of ten years
Speaker 5: before the nineteen nineties was the subject am I said,
Speaker 5: like an astrologer, okay, that the Mathematican. It just seems
Speaker 5: to me that's every ten years.
Speaker 2: That's misleading. That's exactly right, because.
Speaker 1: People, Oh, by the way, a lot of people who say,
Speaker 1: in the case of like Elijah, Elijah reached out one
Speaker 1: time and said, Hey, tell me an Orthodox church to
Speaker 1: check out. This is when we were down there, uh
Speaker 1: for the ten debate. He was like, what's the Orthodox
Speaker 1: church I should check out? And I told him one
Speaker 1: of the Orthodox churches around that area of floored up.
Speaker 1: And then he sent me one text asking about talking
Speaker 1: to Orthodox priests, and I sent him Father and Moses,
Speaker 1: no other comments, no other questions. So it's like like
Speaker 1: there's an open The way I treat a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff is there's an open door if people are
Speaker 1: interested and if they really want to know stuff. I
Speaker 1: think people have a sense that I know some of
Speaker 1: these areas pretty well. Like those people can easily reach out.
Speaker 1: So whether it's a lied or anybody else like they
Speaker 1: there's it's very easy to you know, reach out and
Speaker 1: ask questions or whatever. So you know, the ball is
Speaker 1: usually in other people's court if they really want to
Speaker 1: have whatever kind of chat or advice or recommendations or whatever.
Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon five dollars, what's up man, thank you so much?
Speaker 1: Six to six degrees away from you.
Speaker 2: Would like to see patents. People like to see patents
Speaker 2: where they are on them.
Speaker 5: So a pattern of a financial crisis every ten years
Speaker 5: is just in my mind. Yes, long term capital and
Speaker 5: long term capital. The head be bailed out back in
Speaker 5: the late nineties when everybody panicked, and that one the
Speaker 5: big that bailout. The day would look small and it
Speaker 5: was a.
Speaker 1: Five Sebastian, So I guess this is a separate day
Speaker 1: because you've got a different shirt on. So maybe the
Speaker 1: maybe Bannon was doing one hour segments. What's up Sebastian?
Speaker 1: All right, he can't connect. Let's say, if we can
Speaker 1: get away with putting Jeff Steine on double speed because
Speaker 1: this is going to take forever, dude.
Speaker 5: Dollars ords thirty BIGI dollars. Cause people business fail all
Speaker 5: the time, but they launch a capital the feeder reserve steptend.
Speaker 2: Say things people go bad, things go bad.
Speaker 5: Well, get to Yes, the local you're correct, The audience
Speaker 5: is watchings. The little guys, they go back up all
Speaker 5: the time. Nobody get a sho you why they're little guy.
Speaker 5: But when long term cap Management goes bankrupt bear Starns
Speaker 5: was bankrupor nmbers Croup, people care because.
Speaker 2: You know it's it's nunfair characterisation when you saidcau again,
Speaker 2: it's complexity of the situation. If you think about the
Speaker 2: you have a complex system. You have your body now.
Speaker 2: In fact, the little guy is my finger. This this
Speaker 2: is the bear Stearns is your heart, that's correct, But
Speaker 2: the banking system is my heart. The system I can't
Speaker 2: ris my because members that the way you haven't.
Speaker 5: Been able to hang out. You haven't out.
Speaker 2: You trying to one's hang out?
Speaker 5: Do you not? Can you jus try to do it? You
Speaker 5: have it. You have it. Since we can't name another
Speaker 5: guy that's as good as you, not there may be
Speaker 5: a couple out there. You're not you're not bragging, You're
Speaker 5: you're humble. It had to be sometime. Please tell me
Speaker 5: there was some time.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jeffrey Epstein, it's very humble. Good job, Steve, Yeah,
Speaker 1: very humble.
Speaker 5: Before you went to jail and basically got cut off
Speaker 5: fro daily information in the summer of two thousand and
Speaker 5: eight that you start to get very nervous that this
Speaker 5: complex system that something was deeply wrong.
Speaker 2: Okay, first, when I say no one understands the system
Speaker 2: better than I do, it doesn't mean I always sound like.
Speaker 5: Doctor, your friend's gonna get suited for given as any liability.
Speaker 5: There's no contention the bit your fan.
Speaker 2: But the word understand is the problem. I don't understand
Speaker 2: the system. So that's I don't understand the financial so
Speaker 2: please stop.
Speaker 5: You cannot sit here and tell what we just went through.
Speaker 5: I'll go through again. The hedge fund man so this.
Speaker 1: Is pretty interesting because he does understand it, but he's
Speaker 1: also pointing out this kind of dark, irrational side to it,
Speaker 1: to where it's like, you know, you don't understand, Like
Speaker 1: I understand the financial system, but I also don't understand
Speaker 1: it because it's a living organism that has a life
Speaker 1: of its own.
Speaker 5: In TuS, the money managers, the central bankers, the commercial bankers,
Speaker 5: the heads of the investment banks, the head of all
Speaker 5: the trading desk, the top economists, and I'll throw into
Speaker 5: business school lecture as a stander of all the top
Speaker 5: two hundred, twud and fifty you can't name on the
Speaker 5: top of your head. The guys are at least of
Speaker 5: your level. You have to understand it.
Speaker 2: Someone no, sorry, we all don't understand it. No one
Speaker 2: understands it. It's a mirror. That's part of the problem.
Speaker 2: It's impossible to understand. That word understand simply means if
Speaker 2: this happens here, that will happen there. It's predictable. Understanding
Speaker 2: means it's predictable. It's not predictable. That's the problem. It's
Speaker 2: very it's in complex systems. That was the fascination. Is
Speaker 2: there a way to tease out some level of predictability?
Speaker 2: In fact, what you asked, you would ask the question.
Speaker 2: It is a great question, which was was it a
Speaker 2: stroke or a heart attack? Now most people don't know
Speaker 2: that before they were going to have a stroke, they
Speaker 2: have a stroke? Did they they just have a stroke?
Speaker 2: Did they understand why? In hindsight, you go back and
Speaker 2: you can make lots of explanations. It might sound good,
Speaker 2: and if you're talking to the working man, you're using
Speaker 2: language that he'll never understand. It's complex. So he's just
Speaker 2: like going to his doctor. He says he has a
Speaker 2: gastrointestinal problem with he has diverticulitis. As opposed to saying
Speaker 2: you had a stomach ache, you had bad food. People
Speaker 2: don't like to say it in normal every man terms.
Speaker 2: The system had a stroke, but we don't know why.
Speaker 5: But you just okay, hard working people and there's a
Speaker 5: great social benefit. Would you not agree with having people
Speaker 5: having ownership in the system.
Speaker 2: When you say ownership in the system, it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1: Your phone too.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, alright, come on, Jeff down, you fucked up
Speaker 5: with this. You will get through this phone. But you
Speaker 5: cannot possibly have s to sit there knowing that you
Speaker 5: came from nowhere, knowing that you went to the very
Speaker 5: top of what is considered outside of science and maybe physics.
Speaker 5: The thing people, most of my are cause it like
Speaker 5: alchemy understanding high finance, to sit there in what will
Speaker 5: be the defining financial crisis of our time, like like
Speaker 5: Black Friday and or Blacks Monday, whatever it was in
Speaker 5: the Great Depression, and be there at that exact moment,
Speaker 5: triggered in part by a firm that you used to
Speaker 5: be a partner in it and knew intimately well, and
Speaker 5: it created much of your initial net worth because of
Speaker 5: and know that you couldn't someone who lives on a phone, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: cause you do live on a phone, right, right? You
Speaker 5: had to make collect just too collect costs. You cannot
Speaker 5: tell me sometime during that day you did not have
Speaker 5: that conversation with yourself of how the fuck did I
Speaker 5: do this to myself to put myself in West Palm
Speaker 5: Beach and a six by nine self the metal fucking
Speaker 5: bed with a brown shirt that said trustees spelled wrong.
Speaker 2: So did I find it amazing that I was there?
Speaker 5: That's not amazing. I don't want to say it was
Speaker 5: not funny. Oh I thought it was like I wasn't funny, right,
Speaker 5: But not amazing. It was incredible, incredible in what way
Speaker 5: this trodible?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: How do I do this to myself?
Speaker 2: No, it's as incredible as me sitting here in this house.
Speaker 2: They both just two sides of the coin. But send
Speaker 2: drop and the things, all the sand Stuarts running down
Speaker 2: the hills. That's the way I see the financial moment.
Speaker 5: You funded Santa Fe in the early nineties.
Speaker 1: Or late eighties.
Speaker 2: I believe it was early nineties.
Speaker 5: I can get backy, but early nineties Santa Fe was
Speaker 5: funded for the study of complexity theory.
Speaker 2: We said he would a method. So let's let's back up.
Speaker 2: So why did I buy a ranch in the Mexico
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, So that's usually some sense I would
Speaker 2: have funded it. In nineteen ninety Los Alamos, which was
Speaker 2: the high energy lab up in New Mexico, was losing
Speaker 2: all its scientists.
Speaker 5: And A says the most it was were Oppenheimer and
Speaker 5: where the where a lot of the nuclear weapons furn
Speaker 5: the bomb. That's what the Manhattan Project, Manhattan Project was,
Speaker 5: that's Los Alamos. And you watched your property out in
Speaker 5: Mexico to been near that, yes.
Speaker 2: Because the scientists were going to be They cut the
Speaker 2: funding for high energy physics, but the people who worked
Speaker 2: in loss almost would still be in the Santa Fe area.
Speaker 5: They cut that because the end of the this was
Speaker 5: the Cold War dividend, right love of it.
Speaker 1: Were talking about the beef turkey email or something that
Speaker 1: one's new that one just popped up today. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that yet, and people are speculating that that is code.
Speaker 1: Do we have any reasonable confirmation? I mean, I could
Speaker 1: obviously have no problem seeing that, like maybe they I
Speaker 1: mean Jamie and are watching Hannibal, the TV show, and
Speaker 1: it coincides very interestingly with what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: You know, is the pizza also code for something else?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the pizza is code known you know,
Speaker 1: FBI stuff for underage things.
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is it C A N N I B A L stuff?
Speaker 1: Nothing would surprise me. But do we have, you know,
Speaker 1: anything pointing at that beyond? I mean, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to defend Jeff something, but maybe does he maybe just
Speaker 1: mean a beef jerkey? I don't know, Like I haven't
Speaker 1: even seen the beef turkey email. So let's let's listen
Speaker 1: to Jeff and we'll see what that says.
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly why it was, because again people
Speaker 2: thought there was the physics and high energy for it.
Speaker 2: Really wasn't that.
Speaker 5: Inportant because that was about nucinal weapons.
Speaker 2: No, it was because they were trying to they decided
Speaker 2: it was maybe not right. This was the same time
Speaker 2: that Murray Gelmont came up with the term quawk qu
Speaker 2: ar k. He picked it out of an old poem,
Speaker 2: the work Walk. But it was something it was mysterious,
Speaker 2: So they were starting to understand In the nineties that
Speaker 2: in our world of the physical world, there was things
Speaker 2: that were just unexplainable. They called it strange things. You
Speaker 2: gave it a name, you gave it some characteristics, you
Speaker 2: called it had charm. It was one of the turn
Speaker 2: and had a charm, and had a flavor, it had
Speaker 2: a color. But nobody really, no one, mister Bennan, understood
Speaker 2: what it was, just like the financial system, and you
Speaker 2: wanted to investigate that.
Speaker 1: So the email, somebody's saying that jerky comes up three
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty times jerky recipes. Francis has time to
Speaker 1: come over tomorrow Jerky class. I will bring a taste
Speaker 1: of his new jerky recipe. He's working at a restaurant
Speaker 1: called Cannibal Cooks. Okay, so that's why people are thrown
Speaker 1: in the cannibal part. I've been eating beef turkey a
Speaker 1: round a mile, really into beef turkey for a diet
Speaker 1: six out portion of jerky six eight ounce. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we need more than that. It could be
Speaker 1: people are saying, nobody talks like this about beef jerkey.
Speaker 1: Let's see the best latest batch. I mean, my dad
Speaker 1: makes beef jerkey and he talks about batches and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, and Gold reacts to it. They
Speaker 1: found they think a human code. Again, we need to
Speaker 1: see I think we needed we need to see more
Speaker 1: than just beef jerky to figure out you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like and I'm not saying it's not there.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this, this one is one I just
Speaker 1: saw today, so uh yeah, I mean, you know, when
Speaker 1: we were watching Hannibale, one of my questions was like,
Speaker 1: I thought, this gives you pryons, right, I mean, perhaps
Speaker 1: they know some way to do the meat where it doesn't,
Speaker 1: but it would be it would be funny if we're
Speaker 1: over here watching Hannibal and uh, you know, Jeff Stein
Speaker 1: is is into that. I don't know, anybody see any
Speaker 1: substantial uh information or vindication on that or is it
Speaker 1: just hearsay or reading the chat? I make possum jerky
Speaker 1: sounds good. There was also an exchange where they mentioned
Speaker 1: the jerky had a lab. Oh interesting, that's weird. Pepper
Speaker 1: profit five dollars, great job, great work. Did you see
Speaker 1: Jim Bob and that idiot Dave got Well, yeah, we
Speaker 1: covered that. The first part of the stream, that was
Speaker 1: the first two hours was the atheist nonsense, Sam fifty
Speaker 1: ten dollars. What's your theory on Je being alive? I
Speaker 1: don't know that yet. We have not. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think those initial pictures were AI. It is possible to
Speaker 1: exfiltrate someone, so but we need to see some kind
Speaker 1: of some kind of good evidence for that. But man,
Speaker 1: I'm over here watching Mad's Michelson and I'm like, damn, dude,
Speaker 1: is these bros really eating bros out here? Is these
Speaker 1: wiggas really eating wigas out here?
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if we could build tools so
Speaker 2: others smarter than we could help investigate it.
Speaker 5: And that was the beginning of the sconceipt of the
Speaker 5: Santa Fanastity. Yes, and Santa Fantasity was founded to do
Speaker 5: study in this type.
Speaker 2: Of can these areas of strange things be described by
Speaker 2: some form of mathematics?
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm trying to get at, the foundational thought,
Speaker 5: the organizing principle.
Speaker 1: So he's talking about working at the Santa fantas To
Speaker 1: which you said earlier, was about systems analysis at of
Speaker 1: our high level and figuring out how to study and
Speaker 1: predict large scale systems like global economics and could it
Speaker 1: be predicted is what he's talking.
Speaker 5: About of Santa fe In the High Physics Lab at
Speaker 5: at Los Alamos, which had created been the headquarters of Manhattan,
Speaker 5: and the Trinity Project right the bomb. Yes, so you're
Speaker 5: talking about the the elite, the High Priest of Physics
Speaker 5: of physics, Yes, sir, which High Priests of Physics some
Speaker 5: subset of that is also mathematic system.
Speaker 2: Yes, they both have similar project at.
Speaker 1: The High Priest of Physics. Interesting terminology again suggesting that
Speaker 1: mainline normy physics, scientism, et cetera, as we said at
Speaker 1: the very beginning of this discussion, is a top down enterprise.
Speaker 1: Hence why all of the top New atheists were all
Speaker 1: so close to Jeff sent McAffrey flying on the plane.
Speaker 1: You guys remember Brave New World, which we did a
Speaker 1: recent review. So I did a talk on Brave New
Speaker 1: World ten years ago, and I pointed out the chapter
Speaker 1: where Mostapha Mond says to John the savage you understand
Speaker 1: that the physics and the science that we do is
Speaker 1: not what we give to the dumb public. Right, Why
Speaker 1: would Huxley put that in there? Well, because the same
Speaker 1: thing then is what's going on now there is a
Speaker 1: reddit Normy Physics that's given to the dumb down cattle.
Speaker 1: And then there's a separate secret metaphysics that they believe
Speaker 1: that they're in. They may be wrong, they'd be off.
Speaker 1: That seems to be more akin to neoplatonism, perennialism, cobbalism,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So here is I think where he begins
Speaker 1: to talk about reality as math itself, in other words,
Speaker 1: like we live in a simulation, or the reality is
Speaker 1: a code, the matrix, this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: One of the tools you want to do is to
Speaker 5: make sure that in this complex system, the finance system.
Speaker 5: I'm doing a lot this for Philanthroy and for the
Speaker 5: good the man of kind, but also to be able
Speaker 5: to understand this complex system, the most complex outside of
Speaker 5: maybe our body of the financial world. Yes, did they
Speaker 5: create tools. We were you smarter in than the mid
Speaker 5: odds fifteen years later than you had been then because
Speaker 5: of work it was done at Santa Fe.
Speaker 2: No, it was great, but in fact most of the money.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, for those saying that there's nothing
Speaker 1: to all this blah blah blah, which is totally idiotic.
Speaker 1: Another high level political person, Norway's ambassador, suddenly stepped down.
Speaker 1: She's named thirty three times in the Epstein Falls Mona Jule.
Speaker 1: So so funny to see people stepping down over fake emails,
Speaker 1: ding bat. What's up dude? Now? On this Kabbala part? Yes,
Speaker 1: I have lengthy talks on what Kabbala is medieval Jewish
Speaker 1: mysticism from actual scholarly sources like Gersham Sholin on my channel.
Speaker 1: You can find those in the archives. But I also
Speaker 1: did a recent introduction to what Kabbala is with our
Speaker 1: good buddy Jake Ridlesnake, and Jake invited me on this
Speaker 1: week as well to do a discussion on his channel
Speaker 1: of the Jeff Stin McCaffrey Information. So let me because
Speaker 1: I recently re shared that. Let me find that on here.
Speaker 1: What's up, dude?
Speaker 2: I'm you.
Speaker 6: Hey, j.
Speaker 9: Is that earlier when you were talking to that guy
Speaker 9: that was calling you sued and you had that very
Speaker 9: interesting I don't know if you could call it a debate.
Speaker 4: Why was he calling you, Jason?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, it's like.
Speaker 4: I've been watching you for you.
Speaker 1: It could have been a joke. He could have been joking,
Speaker 1: like because I always make the joke of like when
Speaker 1: people are debating and they just start saying my name,
Speaker 1: So maybe he thought it would be funny to just
Speaker 1: say my full name instead of oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9: Do you have a serious question though? The I've been
Speaker 9: watching you, both you and Nick for years, and I
Speaker 9: like both of you, your your contents, and this what
Speaker 9: I wanted to talk to you about was the his
Speaker 9: downplaying of the pedo stuff, or or rather it is
Speaker 9: the narrative control that Israel is putting.
Speaker 4: Out with their best books.
Speaker 9: People on Twitter about knicks downplaying of the pedo stuff,
Speaker 9: and Nick counter to that being that what he's actually
Speaker 9: trying to do is he's trying to overemphasize the the
Speaker 9: Jewish fixer narrative because you don't have to, you don't
Speaker 9: have to expose.
Speaker 4: What's already obvious.
Speaker 9: And so it doesn't make any sense to just keep
Speaker 9: talking over and over about the pedo stuff. It really
Speaker 9: doesn't make sense to just continue to re litigate the
Speaker 9: pedo stuff over and over.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that's that's the fuller context for his statements. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: You're saying that's the fuller context for his statements, and
Speaker 1: then people are taking like that he said that the
Speaker 1: Calariy Church, for example, allows what fifteen year olds. I
Speaker 1: think in some countries is that what you're saying, what
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
Speaker 4: To say is that I.
Speaker 9: Enjoy the I enjoy his content for the flavor, Yes,
Speaker 9: but when he goes out, he does go off the.
Speaker 4: Rear was a little bit.
Speaker 9: He is young, he is you know, sometimes a little uh,
Speaker 9: sometimes a little.
Speaker 4: Weird, and he says a lot of things that are.
Speaker 9: You know, out there, But this specific thing that he
Speaker 9: said does make sense to me that you don't have
Speaker 9: to expose with already in the light. We all already
Speaker 9: know the obvious. You know, he enjoyed the company of
Speaker 9: young girls. We get it, and he and he did
Speaker 9: that for other people. But that was what he's trying
Speaker 9: to overemphasize is that it was a means to an
Speaker 9: end as a Jewish fixer, and that a lot of
Speaker 9: it is like, oh, he's just a Satanic pedo, is
Speaker 9: narrative control by Israel, and he wants to over emphasize
Speaker 9: the Jewish fixer thing to push away the obvious because
Speaker 9: we don't need to relitigate it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I definitely agree that the real crux pivot
Speaker 1: thing is the international compromise fixer element. So that's the
Speaker 1: most important. And I'm not down playing the abuse of people,
Speaker 1: but the abuse in the number of the people is
Speaker 1: smaller than the number of people destroyed by thirty years
Speaker 1: of financial markets, war, chaos, all the things that he's
Speaker 1: got his hand in. That's way more damaging than And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be callous, but like, if that's
Speaker 1: what you're saying, or what he's saying, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand perhaps how you might try to frame that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have argued, but I mean, he's Catholic, so
Speaker 1: maybe he thinks there's a point to arguing the fifteen
Speaker 1: year old age limit thing or something in Catholic countries.
Speaker 1: But I think it's I think it all matters. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why there's always an open door. Is like I
Speaker 1: think I could, you know, have insights on some of
Speaker 1: these things.
Speaker 9: I would enjoy a competition between you guys. It reminds
Speaker 9: me of his perspective, reminds me of when people bag
Speaker 9: a politician to like condemn something as racist.
Speaker 4: It's like, what is what is obviously bad.
Speaker 9: And already in the light, does not need to be relitigated,
Speaker 9: It doesn't need to be condemned. What we need to
Speaker 9: be talking about is what people are clearly ignoring for
Speaker 9: narrative purposes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that that's the narrative on X has
Speaker 1: gone in that direction. I usually focus and try to
Speaker 1: talk at a normy level to a lot of noormies,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm always trying to
Speaker 1: convince people like, look, here's you know, the Rothschild's in
Speaker 1: their biography saying yeah, we gained the stock market two
Speaker 1: hundred years ago, hahaha, raging about it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm always trying to focus on that
Speaker 1: bigger narrative because a lot of people still don't even
Speaker 1: know that this stuff is real, Like they don't know
Speaker 1: that underage espionage stuff is real.
Speaker 4: So I'm the only Orthodox in my family.
Speaker 9: Entire family is Protestant, and recently my mom has been messaging.
Speaker 4: Me like, hey, what's up with Israel?
Speaker 9: And I'm like, I don't want to throw everything I
Speaker 9: know at her immediately because I don't want to scare her.
Speaker 4: So I'm like very.
Speaker 9: Slowly asking her questions, do you think Israel?
Speaker 1: That's exactly That's exactly the way to talk about these
Speaker 1: types of topics. To Boomers.
Speaker 4: Exactly right, I asked questions.
Speaker 9: I don't I'm not throwing everything I know about Epstein's connection.
Speaker 4: I'm asking her questions. And it just.
Speaker 9: Clearly, clearly the Boomers and the Normies are getting wind
Speaker 9: of this, and they are slowly realizing, Okay, there is
Speaker 9: an ethnic component to it, and we need to be
Speaker 9: able to talk about it openly and freely, or we
Speaker 9: don't have free speech in this country.
Speaker 4: We don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is true, and it's nice. Thank you
Speaker 1: for that calling back. It's nice to be able to
Speaker 1: at least have some conversations now that couldn't be had,
Speaker 1: you know, if you years ago. So as we get
Speaker 1: into the perhaps kabbalistic element of it, I'm not exactly
Speaker 1: sure where we're going at this point in the discussion,
Speaker 1: but I know it eventually kind of gets there. If
Speaker 1: you're looking for a kind of a basic overview of
Speaker 1: how these ideas ended up influencing people like Leibniz, who
Speaker 1: Epstein will begin to talk about, as well as other
Speaker 1: hermeticists like Hegel, you will find this introductory discussion here
Speaker 1: with Jake Rattlesnake perhaps useful as we get into the
Speaker 1: overview of what kabbala is. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. They don't understand Medieval Jewish myssicism
Speaker 1: is also based on a lot of neoplatonic ideas, as
Speaker 1: well as some Hebrew textual ideas out of Ezekiel and
Speaker 1: other passages, chariot, magic, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Most of my philanthropy in the area of can you
Speaker 2: describe things that appear to be unexplainable by mathematics and
Speaker 2: can you fund people who have new ideas? And unfortunately,
Speaker 2: when someone thinks they've been able to there's a man
Speaker 2: Stuart Kaufman, when they think they okay, I figured out
Speaker 2: how to be able to predict the unpredictable, what appears
Speaker 2: to other people to be unpredictable. But my system in
Speaker 2: those days it's called genetic algorithms, can predict what things
Speaker 2: will happen. Then they all want to make money, so
Speaker 2: they use their systems to try to figure out They
Speaker 2: know they have figured out the way to make money
Speaker 2: because they figure out the unexplainable, they try, they go
Speaker 2: bankrupt and we start again. So with a cold view,
Speaker 2: what I've come to realize is that the attempt to mathematize,
Speaker 2: formulaize or what in your prior work to understand what
Speaker 2: really is in today's world still unexplainable, is impossible the miracles.
Speaker 5: Your first head of Santa Fe was crystal.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. So he thinks of the global monetary system
Speaker 1: and the chaotic organism that is the global financial system
Speaker 1: as a mathematical thing that's alive. It almost sounds like gamatria.
Speaker 1: So there's probably a Gamatria element. And let's not mince
Speaker 1: words here. Some of that Gamatria stuff is just ripped
Speaker 1: off of Pythagoras, right. Pythagoras was a number magic believer.
Speaker 1: He thought that numbers were mystical, magical things. That's a
Speaker 1: big part of Platonism and Neoplatonism, and that element as
Speaker 1: well as when you know the Hebrew text, for example,
Speaker 1: used the first several Hebrew letters as their numerical text.
Speaker 1: That's where you get gamatria. It's the same with the Greeks.
Speaker 1: The Greeks, for example, used first in letters as their numerals,
Speaker 1: So that principle itself is not necessarily some kind of
Speaker 1: crazy nonsense. And even within scripture there are elements of gamatria.
Speaker 1: For example, when John uses six' sixty six to stand for.
Speaker 1: Nero that's an example of. It, now idiots on The
Speaker 1: internet think that Gam atria is some magical code that
Speaker 1: they can tap into to predict all of, reality and
Speaker 1: that kind of seems like the direction That Jeff stein
Speaker 1: is going. Into he wants to figure out if there's
Speaker 1: a way to study and map out the organism of
Speaker 1: the living mathematics that is global, finance which is odd
Speaker 1: but makes perfect sense if you kind of know about
Speaker 1: some of The gamatria and kabbalistic. Ideas For Langdon langdon
Speaker 1: from from.
Speaker 5: Us murry gil Was Marmi gilman was a.
Speaker 2: Funder he was he was the.
Speaker 5: Rock, yes he was the. Rock he was A Nobel prize, winner, yes,
Speaker 5: yes and a wonderful. Guy he came out and helped
Speaker 5: us with The vice for two. Project he came With Chris.
Speaker 5: Landon Chris landon was the opera of the day.
Speaker 2: Today chris was doing artificial. Life murray tried to lead
Speaker 2: his own artificial.
Speaker 1: Life.
Speaker 5: Yes When chris came To vice for too for the
Speaker 5: for the first big conference we had nineteen ninety, four
Speaker 5: he was one of the most impressive guys there among
Speaker 5: all the worlds of Lade q, gardens Though Lawrence livermore
Speaker 5: lab The lambs Of, sandia you, know all the all
Speaker 5: the major, Universities Lamont, dherty all the Big earth absorbatoris.
Speaker 5: Whisold what Set langdon? APART i, thought and the REASON
Speaker 5: i Invited Santa fe to be part of it Was
Speaker 5: langdon actually made a presentation that everything and he's making
Speaker 5: this a, scientists a lot of marine, biologists a lot
Speaker 5: of people they're just beginning Whilely broker and people who
Speaker 5: are just beginning the study of climate change at that
Speaker 5: time called global. Warming that he made this compelling presentation
Speaker 5: that everything's really. Mathematics it's all just back to, math
Speaker 5: and you have to all these experiments you, do you're.
Speaker 5: Not one of the reasons are not considered by The
Speaker 5: High priest and physics as being real experiments is that
Speaker 5: they don't have a mathematical basis to, it and everything
Speaker 5: has a mathematical basis to. It Lang it seemed like
Speaker 5: a radical. Visionary what happened to that?
Speaker 1: Concept, YEAH i don't think it's something About Chris. LANGEN
Speaker 1: i don't know who he. Said it sounds like he Said,
Speaker 1: langan BUT i don't think it's That Chris. LANGEN i
Speaker 1: think IT'S i would assume somebody, different BUT i could be.
Speaker 1: Wrong it sounds like he's talking about somebody working IN,
Speaker 1: ai AND i don't know If Chris langen worked in
Speaker 1: A ai or. Not, yeah so irrationally irritable ten, Dollars,
Speaker 1: no we do? That excuse? Me sam became a. Member what's?
Speaker 2: Up you go back three hundred and fifty, Years so
Speaker 2: you Have Isaac, newton you Have leibnitz from move, forward
Speaker 2: you have think people Like heisenberg And, goodell girl, Eh
Speaker 2: and what every one of those mathematicians and philosophers came
Speaker 2: to understand is that this is something with this numbers
Speaker 2: can describe certain, things approximate certain, things but in fact
Speaker 2: trying to put measurements and numbers on other things that
Speaker 2: are really unexplainable is. Folly it's so the three hundred
Speaker 2: years ago they said that unexplainable realm Was. God and
Speaker 2: the people who, attempted in fact to explain the, unexplainable who, said,
Speaker 2: YES i understand the unexplainable With. Charlatans they were the,
Speaker 2: occults they were the, astrologers they were the con. Men alchemist, yes,
Speaker 2: well now alchemist was in, fact they believed that there
Speaker 2: was a way to transmute one metal into. Another in,
Speaker 2: fact they always wanted to see they can create. Gold
Speaker 2: there's no, reason if you think about, it they recognized
Speaker 2: that one metal is different than another metal because there
Speaker 2: has some additional pieces to, it as additional neutrons of
Speaker 2: protons or. Electrons so because they thought it was a.
Speaker 2: Machine if they believed it was a, machine IF i
Speaker 2: can take five protons and add, five that gives me,
Speaker 2: TEN i should be able to get. Gold they move
Speaker 2: everything around inside these. Systems the molecules transmute one molecule into.
Speaker 2: Another and if this Molecule i've transmuted it into is,
Speaker 2: Gold i'm a rich. Man it's back to. Money but
Speaker 2: this something strange. Happens Isaac newton, says this is really.
Speaker 2: Weird IF i want to push a ball on the,
Speaker 2: TABLE i have to touch. IT i could have MAYBE
Speaker 2: i have to blow on, it BUT i actually have
Speaker 2: to push one side of the ball or the book
Speaker 2: to move that. Side i'm pushing. Here and obviously this
Speaker 2: thing is what appears to us the humans to be.
Speaker 2: Solid so it moves is one. Thing but the only
Speaker 2: way to get something to move was to touch it or
Speaker 2: put a force against. It, okay it seems to make.
Speaker 2: Sense everybody has that. Experience AND i want to lift the,
Speaker 2: GLASS i lift. It IF i want to push a,
Speaker 2: BALL i push. It If i'm want to pull a,
Speaker 2: BALL i pull. It but he recognized when the ball
Speaker 2: fell off the table fell off the, table it went
Speaker 2: in a different. Direction how's that? Passed when nobody pushed
Speaker 2: the ball? Down and he, says this is. Crazy why
Speaker 2: did the ball go? DOWN i didn't push. IT i
Speaker 2: just let it. Go so someone's pushing the ball BECAUSE
Speaker 2: i know THAT i am confident that the only thing
Speaker 2: that gets something to move is with a force that.
Speaker 2: Pushes so there's a force that's pushing the ball. Down in,
Speaker 2: fact he never called it. Gravity he.
Speaker 1: Measured i'm assuming he's going to go From newtonian physics
Speaker 1: to quantum, physics and this is how he's gonna get
Speaker 1: into the mystical.
Speaker 2: Stuff how fast it was, Pulled but never was able
Speaker 2: to explain why it, Happened how is? It what is?
Speaker 2: Gravity it's this everybody, says, well why did the ball
Speaker 2: fall to the, Ground cause gravity took? It but what's?
Speaker 2: Gravity that's As feineman would say that's the name of the.
Speaker 2: Thing we have no idea what it. Is this goes
Speaker 2: To Santa. Fe they were trying to put explain the.
Speaker 2: Unexplainable can we measure can we figure out a way
Speaker 2: to predict the stock markets using these types of chaos?
Speaker 2: Complexity forget, that let'sash.
Speaker 5: Backs let's le's go back To newton Pre, newton and
Speaker 5: then what Did newton? Solve that for millennia up To
Speaker 5: newton had not been. Solved NOW i want to go
Speaker 5: forward all the way To Santa. Fe what they were
Speaker 5: trying to. Solve let's say with just two or three
Speaker 5: the basic. Guys but let's go With. Newton what Pre
Speaker 5: newton it? Was? What and then why Is newton such
Speaker 5: a genius and such a in THE i think mathematically
Speaker 5: they told me one, Time i've seen there'sen one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifteen billion people roughly that have lived on The.
Speaker 5: Earth and of that hundred fifteen, million, nay.
Speaker 2: You show this, number that sounds a lot of very.
Speaker 2: High we only have seven ER.
Speaker 5: I think in the history of The. EARTH i think
Speaker 5: I'll i'll pull the staft. FORET i think's one hundred
Speaker 5: fifteen million. People they figured that's probably.
Speaker 2: Inflation that's why you have lived through the have lifted on.
Speaker 5: Earth but he's on the handful of the most Important
Speaker 5: what did he solve? For why is he so important
Speaker 5: for how we live? Today and then we want to
Speaker 5: go through, Lead nits and the other thirty three of
Speaker 5: the major whence to get.
Speaker 2: Us The santa Fe it's it's a long.
Speaker 5: Journey this is the heart of this is the heart
Speaker 5: of what we're trying to.
Speaker 2: Do let me take a bit of a detwisting. Second
Speaker 2: what if you if you went to high school and
Speaker 2: the last year in your high school you took. Calculus
Speaker 2: So Isaac newton sort of invents, calculus but that sounds.
Speaker 2: Events you, know mathematicians, torture torture seniors in high school
Speaker 2: before the. Graduate, yes but obviously, no yes, dances yes
Speaker 2: said certain people can't can never do? Calculus why why is?
Speaker 5: It why is? Calculus? So why is that the dividing
Speaker 5: line between you, know to, me people who could handle
Speaker 5: that and can go on to do certain things and
Speaker 5: people just hit the wall even if they know. Math
Speaker 5: it seems to me that there's that calculus is the
Speaker 5: thing that changes that cos it's a about the theory of.
Speaker 1: Change Du Well, bannon let him answer the. Questions bannon's
Speaker 1: getting annoying.
Speaker 5: Here as in the theory of how things, change it's
Speaker 5: a great.
Speaker 2: Question but in, fact what calculus does is it's somewhat.
Speaker 2: Philosophical that's why mathematics is. Is you, know they used
Speaker 2: to Be newton wasn't a. Mathematician he was called the.
Speaker 2: Geometr that's what they used to call. Themselves they understood
Speaker 2: geometry and. Numbers but there's an old conundrum where it
Speaker 2: says if and During pythagoras Days zeno's, paradox it's called
Speaker 2: where they, said, well IF i take if the wall
Speaker 2: is two feet away from, me AND i take one
Speaker 2: step that's halfway to the, wall that'll be one foot.
Speaker 2: Away and IF i take another step that's half, again
Speaker 2: there'll be half a foot, away then a quarter of a.
Speaker 2: FOOT i could work, forever but never touch the. Wall
Speaker 2: doesn't sound, realist doesn't make any sense in our real
Speaker 2: lives of the. Physical but What newton understood as many.
Speaker 2: Problems we like that many things approached the, wall or
Speaker 2: in his, calculus approached the limit but never really reached.
Speaker 2: It so he, said it's, okay you don't have to reach.
Speaker 2: It we can do lots of the mathematics as if
Speaker 2: it was so, close it was almost, there and we
Speaker 2: could do a lots of mathematics almost being at the.
Speaker 2: Limit and this is really, Important, steve for today because
Speaker 2: most of the science up until, today.
Speaker 1: Who's that walking? Around is that just lane walking around the,
Speaker 1: Background so somebody's peeping around.
Speaker 2: Was things that are starting to approach the. Limit you
Speaker 2: were taught in high school that if you had one
Speaker 2: divided by, Zero if you remember your high school, algebra
Speaker 2: you were, told what's the answer to?
Speaker 1: That come, on, dude let's get to the.
Speaker 2: Point one divided by zero don't know if you were
Speaker 2: in high, school it's, like stay away from it's the.
Speaker 2: Boogeyman you could write it down as it's. Undefined it's
Speaker 2: not able to be determined that there's a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Things but in, fact one divided by zero is a
Speaker 2: strange things. Happen it's a world of the. Strange And
Speaker 2: i'll explain to you after is that when you get
Speaker 2: one divided by, zero you get into. World we don't
Speaker 2: know what. Happens the answerest it's Not oh.
Speaker 1: Shit, dude somebody said that Was candace astral projecting into
Speaker 1: the video Damn and by the, way If Charlie chorleye
Speaker 1: had that time, tech there's no reason And candas couldn't
Speaker 1: go back in time and astral project into The bannon. Interview,
Speaker 1: dude that's what that was.
Speaker 2: Explainable we can give. It we can call it things like.
Speaker 2: Undetermined what we can give have a convention to say
Speaker 2: it's IT'S, X y or. Z but in real life
Speaker 2: we don't know what happens when you are actually at the.
Speaker 2: Limit so that's An newton for the same. Concept is
Speaker 2: that the limits Where philip god you got close To,
Speaker 2: god but you can never Be. God he had this
Speaker 2: sort of religious. Interpretation, OKAY i want to go back To.
Speaker 5: Newton why Is newton such a big dividing line in mankind's?
Speaker 5: History what is it About? Newton what is about anybody
Speaker 5: trying to solve what did they not know? Beforehand and
Speaker 5: what we live to an?
Speaker 1: Agree doesn't everybody know this from like like first, love
Speaker 1: like your first physics class in. College why do we
Speaker 1: need A i know people want to Question newton and
Speaker 1: they want to you, know people believe in quantum. PHYSICS
Speaker 1: i know all That i'm just, like this is A
Speaker 1: it's just bizarre that we went from corruption and high
Speaker 1: finance To bannon wanting an introductory course On newtonian physics
Speaker 1: of cost and. Effects it's just Weird newtonian.
Speaker 5: Universe ALTHOUGH i realized later some sub particle atomic, physics
Speaker 5: but at least for a, while it was. Neetonia so
Speaker 5: what's the? Divide why is he so? Important why is
Speaker 5: he inflection point in mankind's movement from the swamp to the.
Speaker 2: Stars that's a great, question because stars were by. Kep
Speaker 2: What newton starts to allow us to do is to make,
Speaker 2: prediction accurate. Predictions remember that we've got talked about that with,
Speaker 2: Money about the things in our physical. World how, cars
Speaker 2: he didn't have cars, that how horse carriages, moved how,
Speaker 2: things how boweling balls, Moved how pool cues and pool excuse,
Speaker 2: me pool table. Balls wouldn't try.
Speaker 5: To solve that Before Newton mayklitis or you, Know Platinus
Speaker 5: phathagoras that had these great he knew, again.
Speaker 2: But it was all. Numbers this was a system of
Speaker 2: things in the physical. World And patagora, says we can
Speaker 2: start putting numbers on things that help you predict how
Speaker 2: they will behave you can add two triangles and make
Speaker 2: a square some different. Shapes they're looking at gaymetric. Forms newton, says,
Speaker 2: WELL i want to know how planets. MOVE i want
Speaker 2: to know how things around me. Move can we find?
Speaker 2: Formulas CAN i find formulas that explain WHAT i see
Speaker 2: in the physical, world how physical things, interact and how
Speaker 2: they describe one. Another, again the fact that two, things
Speaker 2: two solid, masses for some very, strange unknown, reason unknown,
Speaker 2: today attract one another no matter what they. Are people
Speaker 2: have seen the. Experiment you hang of, something two little
Speaker 2: metal balls from a, string they move towards each. Other
Speaker 2: in fact they moved towards each. Other was a Very.
Speaker 1: Yeah there's different theories about Whether libnis discovered calculus Or,
Speaker 1: newton or did they actually independently both discover. Calculus it's
Speaker 1: an interesting, point but very.
Speaker 2: Specific so when you drop the ball to the floor
Speaker 2: of this, Room newton, says in fact the room came
Speaker 2: up a bit to meet the. Ball the room. Moved
Speaker 2: it's in. Percept they can't really perceive that. Motion but
Speaker 2: they attracted each other with certain. Ratio so he started
Speaker 2: to be able to measure things in the physical world
Speaker 2: and that was great. Advances it also now you wanted
Speaker 2: to move very. Quickly, unfortunately most, people especially in the
Speaker 2: twentieth century nineteenth, century seeing, well Like, newton let's measure,
Speaker 2: everything let's measure people's, behavior let's measure their, psychology let's
Speaker 2: measure their, health you go to the we can Have so.
Speaker 1: This is like, quantification, right the idea that everything could be.
Speaker 1: Quantified and, uh now we Know bannon has an interest
Speaker 1: in perennialism and uh you, know the traditionalist so called.
Speaker 1: School So bannon has read Evil law and presumably free
Speaker 1: thof shoe on And. Gannon so this seems to be
Speaker 1: verging into the uh you, know rain of quantity From,
Speaker 1: gannon that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like, this let's measure, everything measure their voting has, measure, measure.
Speaker 2: Measure can we put a number on how MUCH i
Speaker 2: care for my? Wife CAN i put a number on
Speaker 2: HOW i? Feel and we, Tried, unfortunately we not try
Speaker 2: to mathematize it's called quantification minor things in life and
Speaker 2: then recognize that there's things that unfortunate fortunately just fall
Speaker 2: outside everyone, Shorting, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's a great. Point normanis think this is genius, talk,
Speaker 1: Right so like basic this is Even, like isn't this
Speaker 1: like eighth grade? Physics people think eighth grade's physics class
Speaker 1: talk is.
Speaker 10: Like, wow this is like this is like High braine.
Speaker 1: Stuff, wow high. Stuff Oh i'm terrible at. MATH i
Speaker 1: don't remember any of that maths, shit but LIKE i
Speaker 1: know this, stuff LIKE i remember a lot of. This like,
Speaker 1: whoa this isn't even this is? What, yeah this is
Speaker 1: why noormies will fall for like the most ridiculous. Word
Speaker 1: Solid right wrote a.
Speaker 2: Very famousok about why his. Life he was trying to
Speaker 2: figure out a. Way can't he describe the difference formulaically
Speaker 2: between things that are alive and things that are dead, Answers,
Speaker 2: no the things that are alive in my world are,
Speaker 2: miracles not. Magic magics has a bad. Connotation you don't
Speaker 2: believe in the spirit or the. Soul that's what animates.
Speaker 2: People is your spirit your?
Speaker 5: Soul no. One but have you ever seen someone? Die
Speaker 5: when they, die their spirit, Leaves the soul leaves no.
Speaker 5: Question so when there's no question to, you no, question
Speaker 5: there's no question to you that there is some animating
Speaker 5: life force within us that leaves when you're.
Speaker 2: Dead, Yes in, FACT i refer to the. Soul there's
Speaker 2: obviously a certain the questions in.
Speaker 5: The past would normally think you were. Soulless so have
Speaker 5: you just know to have you talk about you actually
Speaker 5: believe in it and have done some thinking About it's
Speaker 5: pretty shocking in its own, Right in't?
Speaker 2: It well again? Mathematics Leibnitz And leibnitz, THOUGHT i, Said.
Speaker 5: No newton was At cambridge and he was ahead of
Speaker 5: Math departmight he's, professor but likeness who would likeness A german? Professor?
Speaker 2: Yes but What leibnitz said is the soul is so
Speaker 2: strange Because god took, chemicals which is simply the material like,
Speaker 2: tables and he somehow made this material able to have a.
Speaker 2: Thought how strange is that not only does it have a,
Speaker 2: soul but this some way it was put, together that
Speaker 2: this material substance is able to. Think so when you
Speaker 2: say to, me it's obvious to everyone that this is
Speaker 2: such a thing as a. Soul, now if you're part
Speaker 2: of The, charlatanville you'll try to explain it to. People
Speaker 2: the SOUL i describe as the dark matter of the.
Speaker 2: Brain is it dark matter because in high energy?
Speaker 1: Physics wait a, Minute, jeff let's still a little pre
Speaker 1: supping Of Jeff sain mcceff for, here religion and con
Speaker 1: artists are the ones that try to explain the. Soul
Speaker 1: by the, way here's my explanation of the. Soul so
Speaker 1: are you admitting a con?
Speaker 2: Artist nowadays you hear in terms of dark, matter doc energy, again.
Speaker 2: Terminology it's, complicated termine why is it doc? Matics we
Speaker 2: can't see it as. Well what do you mean you
Speaker 2: can't see? It, well somehow we see something moving towards
Speaker 2: this area of darkness. SOMETHING i can see this. Thing
Speaker 2: this appears to me to be, empty it's just, black
Speaker 2: BUT i see it being drawn this. Way SO i, said,
Speaker 2: WELL i know if this were, matter that would follow that.
Speaker 2: Equation if this was, solid it would explain the way
Speaker 2: this particle.
Speaker 1: Moves, Yeah i'm not detecting high levels of genius. Here
Speaker 1: i'm detecting like basic familiarity with basic. Ideas that's so
Speaker 1: far What i'm detecting. Here, SO i, MEAN i guess
Speaker 1: what he said about live notes is kind of. True
Speaker 1: BUT i mean you could read A wikipedia entry and
Speaker 1: kind of get that much of.
Speaker 2: It BUT i can't see anything, here So i'll just
Speaker 2: call it dark. MATTER i don't know what it, is
Speaker 2: but it behaves as if there was something. There the
Speaker 2: soul is obvious to everyone that there's something different between
Speaker 2: things that are alive and things that are not. Alive
Speaker 2: but we have no idea what it. Is it's currently.
Speaker 2: UNEXPLAINABLE i believe we need an entirely different system of
Speaker 2: analysis to try to figure.
Speaker 1: Out but now With, newton you, know, uh so, interesting
Speaker 1: so we get he is talking about sort of mystical ideas.
Speaker 1: Here so are we going to get full. Cobbalism let's
Speaker 1: see where we.
Speaker 5: Go it's all his alchemic, study chemical studies and things
Speaker 5: you've worked on the spiritual side leadnits that just talked
Speaker 5: about the Soul schroeder. Talk it was like if a
Speaker 5: modern scientist or someone that you funded AT mit At
Speaker 5: harvard in one of these things talk in those types of,
Speaker 5: terms they would be considered to be a wing nut,
Speaker 5: today wouldn't They they would they would not be on
Speaker 5: the path for tenure right.
Speaker 2: Unless they were in the philosophy of the. Moment that
Speaker 2: this is exactly my.
Speaker 5: Point we're talking about three of the greatest mathematicians in
Speaker 5: mankind's history that have really changed mankind talking like, this what?
Speaker 5: Happened how do we get to a situation where they
Speaker 5: could not be in the high, physics you, know they
Speaker 5: could not be in the mathematic in the mathematics department
Speaker 5: or working in scienceity.
Speaker 2: Physics so it's an easy. Answer newton was a combination
Speaker 2: of mathematician or geometry then and, philosopher and as time
Speaker 2: went on that those disciplines seem to.
Speaker 1: Well newton was an, alchemist so he Didn't he referenced
Speaker 1: alchemy earlier and said he kind of gave some credence
Speaker 1: to the possibility the transmutation of matter that he thinks that's.
Speaker 1: Legit and now he's talking About, newton who was a
Speaker 1: committed hermeticist.
Speaker 2: Alchemist move, apart we had philosophy who some of the
Speaker 2: philosophers can't do, math and some of the. Mathematicians and
Speaker 2: again mathematicians often break into two. Categories people that solve.
Speaker 2: Problems those are more like, geometris you, know there's just problem,
Speaker 2: solvers and then there's thinkers. Theoreticians they're more like the
Speaker 2: old movement towards. Philosophy but neither one of those two
Speaker 2: groups have been able to figure out why something is.
Speaker 2: Alive as opposed to something that's not. Alive no one's
Speaker 2: been able to describe what the soul, is but we
Speaker 2: all know it, exists AND i think what we need
Speaker 2: is a new science is a bad. WORD i think
Speaker 2: science only describes the things we already know about the physical.
Speaker 2: World in, fact there's an argument that the physical world
Speaker 2: that we see has been created out of our systems
Speaker 2: to be of.
Speaker 1: Mathematics so there you have A Pythagorean kabbalistic argument that
Speaker 1: reality itself is mathematics or. Numbers and you do find
Speaker 1: this in some of the well known famous physicists out,
Speaker 1: there Like max Tech Mar max Tech, mark for, example
Speaker 1: thinks that reality literally is, numbers which is again kind
Speaker 1: of the Ancient pythagorean And platonic. Position so that's definitely
Speaker 1: where he's coming, from whether you believe it or. Not
Speaker 1: and it's interesting Because i've said for a long time
Speaker 1: THAT i think that probably the elites, themselves And i'm
Speaker 1: not saying that he's really some kind of like he
Speaker 1: really knows the. Science he seems to be more of a,
Speaker 1: sued but a very well connected, sued an organized crime.
Speaker 1: Figure they have a different, physics and that's exactly What
Speaker 1: i've been saying all, along AND i said that years,
Speaker 1: ago Because Brave New world says That Mustapha mon says
Speaker 1: To john The, savage we have a different physics and
Speaker 1: science that is nothing to do with what we put
Speaker 1: out to the. Normies we debase the normies through derascinating toxic,
Speaker 1: culture and we have a separate understanding and discourse that we.
Speaker 1: Do and it sounds like, mystical neoplatonic. Stuff and that's
Speaker 1: exactly What justin McCaffrey is saying.
Speaker 2: Here. Mathematics everyone knows mathematics describes the physical world much
Speaker 2: greater than it should unless you my, view the physical
Speaker 2: world really comes out of conscious beings that have, mathematics
Speaker 2: so they create. It this table appears to you AND
Speaker 2: i to be solid to a bat or, if because
Speaker 2: we have light that's bouncing off the table into our.
Speaker 2: Eyes it appears solid if instead of eyes that responded
Speaker 2: to wavelengths of visual, light our eyes responded to radio.
Speaker 2: Waves the radio. Frequencies it's not. Different it's the same
Speaker 2: type of frequency is light with different. Speeds the tables.
Speaker 2: Invisible we know that our phone works in this, room
Speaker 2: so the waves are coming through the. Windows the waves
Speaker 2: are coming through the, walls so the walls are invisible
Speaker 2: to that type of, radiation that type of. Energy the
Speaker 2: walls ARE i can see them because my. EYES a
Speaker 2: physical system determines that the walls are.
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Speaker 5: Santa Fe institute in ten or fifteen years, later that
Speaker 5: effort to study the complexity of systems. Mathematically, Yes, oliver what's? Up?
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Speaker 6: epstein would be making a whole lot more.
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Speaker 1: it's LIKE i think he's just stalling for. Time he's
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Speaker 1: stalin just. KIDDING i mean he said some. THINGS i
Speaker 1: mean what he said in one half of an hour
Speaker 1: could have been said in ten. Minutes i'll say that.
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Speaker 1: Interview this is just so. Weird we've got a couple
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Speaker 1: Yes i'm very familiar with. It they also talk about
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Speaker 1: like we aren't treating This epstein thing like it's a
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Speaker 1: Mean i've been saying all week It's bond villain. Stuff
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Speaker 1: that includes news. Articles it's all kinds of. Stuff, SO i,
Speaker 1: mean you, Know Lord voldemart was in, there and Even
Speaker 1: jefftin mcgeffrey was saying he didn't Like Lord valdemart Because
Speaker 1: voldemort exposes the. Network that's What alex was. Saying but
Speaker 1: let's finish. This we're almost to the end of.
Speaker 2: It with each other when some everyone has the same.
Speaker 2: Feeling they've seen someone walk in the room and they, said,
Speaker 2: oh that person gives me a creepy. Feeling science has
Speaker 2: tried to describe.
Speaker 1: Science so this IS i, mean, wow sixth. Sense this
Speaker 1: is so.
Speaker 2: Deep describe what creepy feelings. Means they just know it's
Speaker 2: a creepy. FEELING i think, women AS i, Said.
Speaker 1: Jeff must be describing the feeling that many women had
Speaker 1: when he came into the. Room so he must be
Speaker 1: very familiar with people having the creepy feeling phenomenon last.
Speaker 2: Time have an intuitive. Sense what is? Intuitive they have,
Speaker 2: Intuition they have, feelings and they're able to deal in
Speaker 2: the realm of things that, men especially men like myself find.
Speaker 2: Unexplainable they have Great women have. Intuition men see things
Speaker 2: a bit. Differently men want to measure. Everything women in.
Speaker 1: That, Really i'll see he's an intuitive bro. Right we
Speaker 1: had a lot of callers tonight calling in with their.
Speaker 1: Intuition we should just follow their. Intuition, candae just follow my.
Speaker 1: Intuition don't worry about a bunch of research and reading.
Speaker 1: Books just follow my. Intuition, well it turns out just
Speaker 1: On geffert is a good he's a he's a defender of.
Speaker 1: Women he's a good old feminist at, heart good Old
Speaker 1: jeff stim. Mceffort women have a more deeply seated intuitive.
Speaker 1: Sense now do you Think jeff really believed that given
Speaker 1: what he says in all of the other private, communications
Speaker 1: particularly with regard to eugenics AND iq and all of
Speaker 1: the nasty times.
Speaker 2: That he speaks of the wiggers that interested in.
Speaker 5: Measuring in what you're saying in, macrotterms you actually think science.
Speaker 5: Mathematics maybe ultimately technology is moving to that more INTUITIVE.
Speaker 2: I think science and math are old, fashioned and unfortunately
Speaker 2: people are still taught that they.
Speaker 1: Have, yeah we need a new. Science that's lady Led
Speaker 1: i'm ready for slay queen, science slavey science. Girl and
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be WHAT i feel at the. Moment
Speaker 1: by the, way can that's going to be the high
Speaker 1: priestess of the new, science because that's what a, dream
Speaker 1: it's WHAT i feels at the, moment and it's WHOEVER
Speaker 1: i don't like they is canceled on. Scientific that's the new.
Speaker 1: Science and you heard it From justin'm okay for you
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: Yourself they'll learn algebra in school and certain things in
Speaker 2: school as opposed to learning to.
Speaker 5: Give is this What Larry summers was.
Speaker 1: Trying by the, way this is the public consumption. Stuff
Speaker 1: Kater perr are going to be the new science.
Speaker 15: Queen remember when what his name, Was, fauci, y'all, remember,
Speaker 15: y'all Remember. Fauci fauci, SAID i am the.
Speaker 4: Science don't disagree with.
Speaker 5: ME i am the.
Speaker 1: Science, Well Jeff stein is, Saying Katie perry is the
Speaker 1: science of the. Future by the, way why do you
Speaker 1: hate women if you don't support so hold on if
Speaker 1: you are, Against but if you're a, feminist then you're
Speaker 1: Pro Jeffrey. Epstein, see now we're toying with the fallacies
Speaker 1: right perfectly.
Speaker 5: Enough but what he was trying to get to in that,
Speaker 5: system the systems we study today are the way mathematics
Speaker 5: either taught or.
Speaker 1: Understood jeff's sign be, Like so, basically What i'm saying
Speaker 1: is That earth is to ashy.
Speaker 2: Okay, earth you, see is very.
Speaker 16: Ghetto it's very, ashy is very, ghetto and we want
Speaker 16: to ungratify and unash The earth with a large quantity
Speaker 16: of ditty oil that would moisturize the earth to make
Speaker 16: it no longer ashy that.
Speaker 5: Women just havn't gotten up to the highest realms of,
Speaker 5: engineering or physics or mathematics because of, that.
Speaker 1: Because there was oppressed, though because the patriarchy was oppress
Speaker 1: on the. Women see, you, ladies y'all had a negative
Speaker 1: appraisal Of Jeff sin MacCaffrey all these. Years y'all thought
Speaker 1: he was a bad. Dude he's on your. Side he's
Speaker 1: trying to get you a damn stem. Job he's trying
Speaker 1: to get your stem cells and get you a stem position.
Speaker 5: Girlfriend and you're you're actually applying that there's a either
Speaker 5: new branch or science or we've hid a inflection, point
Speaker 5: like A newton that's going to go Into newton took
Speaker 5: man kind of different direction because he was able to.
Speaker 5: Measure then you had subatomic you, know Non newtonian. Physics,
Speaker 5: later are you saying that you think there's another developed
Speaker 5: field it's coming up that may take US i don't
Speaker 5: know how many decades to get our hands, around but
Speaker 5: that that's what's evolving out of.
Speaker 2: This, yes, yeah in FACT i think that mathematics it's
Speaker 2: not the end of. Science every year someone says at
Speaker 2: the end of we can't discover. Everything there's lots to
Speaker 2: discover with a relationship to the physical, world but we
Speaker 2: know we're a lot already in respect to the unexplainable.
Speaker 2: World we almost know.
Speaker 1: Nothing somebody was calling, Him Jeffrey, simpstein we have the,
Speaker 1: smartest funniest chat on the. INTERNET i, swear do you
Speaker 1: guys make me cry laughing all the?
Speaker 2: Time women again sense it and instead Of Larry, Summers
Speaker 2: i'm JUST i won't digress too. Much But Howard gardner
Speaker 2: early on said there's not one form of.
Speaker 1: Intelligence it just occurred to, me how amazingly transparent this,
Speaker 1: is how hypocritical the mainline voices of feminism. Are this
Speaker 1: is a man who, steals, grapes traffics, women young, women
Speaker 1: and he's publicly a feminist women's rights. Supporter amazing the
Speaker 1: level of just Absolutely and by the, way how many
Speaker 1: of the major voices of, feminism especially the male, feminists
Speaker 1: how many of them have we seen exhibit the exact
Speaker 1: same traits where they get busted for some grape scandal
Speaker 1: or some insane level of weird deviancy that they're. Into
Speaker 1: isn't that? Interesting? Shocker?
Speaker 2: Right it's not mathematical. Intelligence there's emotional, intelligence kinesthetic. Intelligence you,
Speaker 2: know there's this argument THAT i reject that black people
Speaker 2: are less intelligent than white. People it's not.
Speaker 1: True oh? Really is that why all of your text
Speaker 1: messages and private communications say the exact, opposite because you
Speaker 1: talk about genetics research and all the connections between genetics AND. Iq.
Speaker 2: Interesting we, know for example that IF i was in
Speaker 2: the forest AND i had to run from the lion
Speaker 2: or figure out a way not to be, eaten and
Speaker 2: my competition is a Local, African i'm the one who's
Speaker 2: getting eaten because they have the intelligence to deal with
Speaker 2: the local. Environment so, wait what.
Speaker 1: Was he just saying that IF i was In, africa
Speaker 1: the black people would eat me and SO i would
Speaker 1: not be. Intelligent but he was in the context of
Speaker 1: defending black people as not LOW, iq but then saying
Speaker 1: that they're going to eat, Me like what that?
Speaker 9: Was that was a.
Speaker 1: Wild twist, There. Jeff it's just.
Speaker 2: Different it's not, better it's not. Worse but there's many
Speaker 2: differences amongst different types of, people and to people have different,
Speaker 2: intelligences and they excel in some intelligences usually and less
Speaker 2: so in.
Speaker 5: Others one need to come to because the world of
Speaker 5: high finance is a world of pure reason or is?
Speaker 5: It is it a lot of emotion and gut checks
Speaker 5: and and you, know on trading desk in central banks
Speaker 5: when these decisions get.
Speaker 1: Made is it is it that, oh he was saying
Speaker 1: he was running from a. Lion didn't he say? CANNIBAL
Speaker 1: i thought he said the word cannibal.
Speaker 5: High church like the High church of science of high energy.
Speaker 5: Physics or is it as much emotion that comes in
Speaker 5: as much as the mathematics and the reason.
Speaker 1: The High church of high energy physics bizarre. Terminology it's
Speaker 1: a great.
Speaker 2: QUESTION i think if you talked to really experienced and successful, traders.
Speaker 10: Somebody Said epstein cause he's.
Speaker 1: Fleeing Around africa from the cannibal. Tribe was? It lions are, Cannibals.
Speaker 2: And you ask them how they know what's going, on
Speaker 2: they can't give you an. Answer they don't. Know they feel.
Speaker 2: It they can feel the way the market's, moving they
Speaker 2: can feel the way the stock's. Moving and that these
Speaker 2: are not very well defined. Terms it's not it's difficult
Speaker 2: to put in mathematics. Terms how DID i feel? It
Speaker 2: you could look back and make guesses WHAT i was,
Speaker 2: Seeing but great traders feel it and then act on their.
Speaker 2: Feelings that's the. Difference many people feel it but are
Speaker 2: afraid because they want a mathematical.
Speaker 1: Justification if, All i'm started to think it really is human,
Speaker 1: jerky cause he's talking ABOUT i thought he said cannibals
Speaker 1: eating him In? Africa was that? Lions i'm. CONFUSED i
Speaker 1: don't know what's. Lost, boy they Take we're five hours into. That.
Speaker 5: Nis when you first got on the trading desk of
Speaker 5: Bear stearns in the late seventies or midst, seventies were
Speaker 5: you shocked by how little actual understanding of mathematics that
Speaker 5: the traders. Comprehended, yeah, again we had A texas instrument
Speaker 5: calculated most most, stockbrokers and especially before that can seventy.
Speaker 2: Five if they were, good stockbrokers could add that's about.
Speaker 1: It they.
Speaker 2: Couldmultiply if you could, multiply you were already in the
Speaker 2: top fifteen percent of. Stockbrokers stockbroker simply meant, that, jeffar
Speaker 2: there's a great there's a story WHEN i went to
Speaker 2: the first PERSON i had no, money AND i said
Speaker 2: how much money do you make a? Year and he
Speaker 2: said four hundred thousand dollars. Impossible i'm making ten thousand.
Speaker 5: Dollars that's strolling more your family had made in his entire. Assistance,
Speaker 5: yes and.
Speaker 2: He makes it in a. YEAR i, said what do you?
Speaker 2: Do and he, said its too complicated for you to,
Speaker 2: understand which is what the main thrust Of Wall street.
Speaker 2: People they want to tell you it's too complicated because
Speaker 2: if you understood, that that person was simply he had
Speaker 2: a brother in law in fact in this, case who
Speaker 2: ran the pension, fund the general. Motors his brother in
Speaker 2: law would call them and, say buy a THOUSAND. Ibm
Speaker 2: he'd hang up the, phone he'd write it out on
Speaker 2: a ticket and walk it to a. Window that was
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Speaker 2: To that's why it's so exciting, now BECAUSE i think
Speaker 2: certain people are starting to realize that there's so many
Speaker 2: things that are unexplainable that we have to think about them.
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Speaker 2: common man's. Example you, know when you hear a certain
Speaker 2: song it makes you feel a certain. Way how does
Speaker 2: it do? That we don't. Know we can't mathematize. It
Speaker 2: and even that, Music, steve nowadays we compress. Music when
Speaker 2: you have a, violin it's compressed onto your. iPhone so
Speaker 2: what is? COMPRESSION i, Mean i'm taking lots of information
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Speaker 2: Okay it's those pieces that we take out when we compress.
Speaker 2: Data to, me are the most interesting parts of. Life
Speaker 2: you just said a while.
Speaker 5: Ago part of this new search for science may go
Speaker 5: back to when people actually talking about a, soul and you,
Speaker 5: said there no doubt in your mind that there is a.
Speaker 5: Soul describe for me what you mean by. That what
Speaker 5: do you mean by? Soul what do you mean to
Speaker 5: solve different than the physical analog body that we're seeing
Speaker 5: on film right.
Speaker 2: Now it's difficult to describe in. WORDS i, Mean i'm
Speaker 2: not a. Poet poems get a little closer to what
Speaker 2: that really. Means but we. Can even the concept of
Speaker 2: what is life becomes complicated when you deal with plants and.
Speaker 2: Seeds is a seed? ALIVE i don't, know and certain
Speaker 2: people say, no it's. Dead when you have, banana one
Speaker 2: of my favorite examples is the banana that's sitting on
Speaker 2: the countertop in your kitchen. Today is it alive or?
Speaker 5: Dead what do you think about human?
Speaker 2: Life when is?
Speaker 9: That what is?
Speaker 5: Human tell me about?
Speaker 2: Human but you have? Bana this is.
Speaker 1: Alive this is funny because this is their text email
Speaker 1: exchange where they have this conversation about whether the banana is,
Speaker 1: alive and then they're, like, okay but is it?
Speaker 2: Conscious it's just, goofy that bananas. Breathing it's on Your
Speaker 2: you say it's, Impossible, Jeffrey, no is the banana? Conscious
Speaker 2: all these these are, Words so you everyone's trying to
Speaker 2: fit very complicated concepts into a very small by called
Speaker 2: conscious or. Alive it's these don't fit in that. Way
Speaker 2: so if you put your bana in a bag and
Speaker 2: put another fruit in with, it the fruit ripens fast
Speaker 2: because the banana breathes with. It that's we don't.
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Speaker 1: have pepperoni, nipples peppers. PEPSTEIN i don't. KNOW i haven't
Speaker 1: looked at his nude. BODY i don't really care to
Speaker 1: see his nude.
Speaker 2: Body understand what most of those? Things so you asked
Speaker 2: the big, question do you talk at the? Life what
Speaker 2: about human? Life what about?
Speaker 5: It tell me what do you, think what do you
Speaker 5: think human life?
Speaker 2: Is it's a. Miracle it's a. Miracle and WHEN i say,
Speaker 2: MIRACLE i can't explain, it AND i make no attempt
Speaker 2: to explain. It at the, moment we don't know how
Speaker 2: to think about. It and anyone it is getting another
Speaker 2: one of The fineman. Quotes when he was talking about quantum,
Speaker 2: physics he, said Anyone jeffrey who says they understand quantum
Speaker 2: physics and quantum mechanics and quantum, behavior you know they.
Speaker 5: Lie let's talk about that's postnetonium. Talk talk about what's the?
Speaker 5: Difference who found a quantum mechanics?
Speaker 1: What it's funny because even though this is new, age
Speaker 1: he also kind of sounds like a reddit bro, too.
Speaker 1: Right he's like a reddit enormy with a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff which can scrack me.
Speaker 5: Up it's called quant, mechanics Taking newtonian physics and taking
Speaker 5: it to the next.
Speaker 2: Level it's forms a much broader. Category let's get back
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 5: Desk you used. It the thing Of newton using this,
Speaker 5: desk what Is why Can't newton's theory explain? Everything why
Speaker 5: did sub atomic quantum mechanics or quantum physics have to
Speaker 5: come and to, explain to explain.
Speaker 2: This, well so let's let's go right back to square.
Speaker 2: One why is it called quantum. Physics so quanta is
Speaker 2: a word that simply means, packet small, Amount so it's.
Speaker 2: Quantized so we, recognized when we've recognized that this table appeers,
Speaker 2: appears another very complicated word solid.
Speaker 9: Us it.
Speaker 2: Has it's really made up of molecules or, atoms and
Speaker 2: atoms we've given lots of names to what some of the.
Speaker 1: Behaviors, wow this is really. Deep so we're back to
Speaker 1: uh seventh grade level physics. Class this is.
Speaker 2: Amazing if you were in, school when you AND i
Speaker 2: were in school in the, fifties the model was a
Speaker 2: little center thing in the, middle and electron went around
Speaker 2: and around. It it was seen as a ball that
Speaker 2: went around and around.
Speaker 1: It, daniel five. Dollars did you See epstein's email to
Speaker 1: All brecht about making grinder profiles to Blackmail american. Politicians
Speaker 1: that's a. Joke that's a. Joke daniel is.
Speaker 2: Joking and as we start to look at to, say
Speaker 2: well let's see what this bull looks. LIKE i want
Speaker 2: to be able to examine that little thing called an
Speaker 2: electron we, found uh, yeah a.
Speaker 1: Lot of dyla monkey coded references here with the bananas
Speaker 1: and the you, know evolution and this is getting really.
Speaker 2: Deep there was nothing. There it wasn't the. Thing it
Speaker 2: was simply a cloud OF i.
Speaker 1: Like how they're discussing things that you would literally hear
Speaker 1: in like your introduction To philosophy, class like the first.
Speaker 1: Day this is the stuff that comes, up like literally
Speaker 1: an intro to, philosophy, okay WHICH i remember intro to.
Speaker 1: PHILOSOPHY i had a great intro to philosophy. Professor he
Speaker 1: was a human, skeptic but he was a great. Professor
Speaker 1: and this is literally the stuff that we talked. About
Speaker 1: it was it was, LIKE, i let's talk about. Philosophy
Speaker 1: and he was not A jewish guy who was a,
Speaker 1: chubby kind of alcoholic dude with a big, gut and
Speaker 1: he would just kind of he would he would just
Speaker 1: start to haul the chalk like this and he would
Speaker 1: rest his hand on his gut and he would, go, yeah,
Speaker 1: well so it's like the number seven is number? Seven a?
Speaker 6: Lie?
Speaker 1: One is?
Speaker 2: It where is? It how do we know what it?
Speaker 1: Is what any guys?
Speaker 5: Think?
Speaker 1: Right that's like day one Of Introduction philosophy in college
Speaker 1: your first. Day and it's funny to me because like
Speaker 1: he And bannon think they're having this like two HUNDRED
Speaker 1: iq level conversation that no one could even barely. Understand
Speaker 1: and it's literally what you would talk about like the
Speaker 1: first day of philosophy.
Speaker 2: Class get that we can call an. Electron so we
Speaker 2: already start to see mysterious things as we go into
Speaker 2: very super small quantities quantum. Physics so quantum physics like
Speaker 2: to go into the very small and very small.
Speaker 1: Distances, wow so quantum physics about small quantities is actually
Speaker 1: about the physics of small. Quantities, damn this is blowing my. Mind.
Speaker 2: Ude we see things that we can't, explain just cannot
Speaker 2: explain how much a type.
Speaker 1: We got face, lords and we got mind, lords we
Speaker 1: got mind. Loaders but by the, way this is also
Speaker 1: why the new atheists in his sphere were so influential
Speaker 1: and we're so effective from the two thousands up into you,
Speaker 1: know the death of that, stuff you, know five or
Speaker 1: six years, ago it's dying out on. YouTube you have
Speaker 1: the last dying gasps of it With Professor dave And
Speaker 1: derek Myth vision and all. That like this explains why
Speaker 1: this was so easy to pass off on. People was
Speaker 1: because people were dumbed down and they were stupid and
Speaker 1: being introduced to a lot of these, topics and because
Speaker 1: people don't study, philosophy they think that this, is oh my,
Speaker 1: gosh the Dark. Enlightenment. Dude these people are so. Smart
Speaker 1: and then you notice anytime that they encounter anybody with
Speaker 1: like a just a mid tier level of, philosophy they're like,
Speaker 1: words big, Words what what logic?
Speaker 5: Is what that?
Speaker 4: Means what that?
Speaker 5: Is what that? Is what that?
Speaker 10: Mean what that?
Speaker 5: Mean?
Speaker 1: Right they go full bricing gray.
Speaker 2: Logic what that?
Speaker 5: Is what that?
Speaker 1: Mean what that?
Speaker 2: Mean and to Summarize And i'm, sorry.
Speaker 5: Let's go back to human. Life when do you think
Speaker 5: human life?
Speaker 2: Starts it's not These so you, see this is the.
Speaker 2: Question you're asking me to measure something, again it's. Measure
Speaker 2: you're just you just hate making. Commitments that's Why i'm not.
Speaker 5: Married I'm i'm peeling this onion back a lair of.
Speaker 5: Time all your bullshit and. Happytar you can't be measure
Speaker 5: can't be measured like? That is that to say measure
Speaker 5: makes it's a. Commitment you don't even like a commitment
Speaker 5: when you you.
Speaker 1: Just say all your bullshit.
Speaker 5: Answer, QUESTION i know the saying, golf commit to the.
Speaker 2: SHOT i don't know what it means to be.
Speaker 5: Measured you do know what it means to be. Measured
Speaker 5: you're one of the leading currency, traders hedge fund, guys
Speaker 5: or stock market financial. Wizard you're the high priesthood.
Speaker 1: Hyphen you're in the high priesthood of high. Finance interesting
Speaker 1: commentary there From bannon H, and by the, Way, no
Speaker 1: the fact that he's in finance has absolutely no connection
Speaker 1: at all with the ability for him to measure things
Speaker 1: in physics or in. Philosophy so it's like so many
Speaker 1: people think that one being, fluid, fluent and proficient in
Speaker 1: one discourse or one domain makes them experts in. Everything
Speaker 1: it's such a weird. Phenomenon you certainly know how to.
Speaker 5: Measure that's why you're. Beginner any other answer besides that
Speaker 5: is totally complete, bullshit and you know.
Speaker 2: IT i know very few.
Speaker 5: Things you know things to be. Measured you measure every.
Speaker 5: Day you weigh and measure every. Day you wiy and measure,
Speaker 5: People you ay and measure, Leaders you measure, Ecdomies you
Speaker 5: way to measure, politics very way. Measure you hang on
Speaker 5: your hang on your whole life in, fact is.
Speaker 2: Measuring that's so what you've now done is a great.
Speaker 2: Thing is you've used the word, measure a mathematic term
Speaker 2: in the common of, vernacular and abused it SO i
Speaker 2: don't even recognize what it. Means it's so.
Speaker 1: Abusive ooh, damn he just called out and then for
Speaker 1: a word concept, fallacy, Damn Jeff stein on the.
Speaker 2: Rack he on the right track now she he.
Speaker 1: Just went full category, air full grammatical word concept there
Speaker 1: On BANNON o my.
Speaker 5: Field, well and let's go in mathematics what that means
Speaker 5: and measure means what?
Speaker 2: Specifically that's it's no specific it's a an approximation or
Speaker 2: give it's giving something a. Number IF I einstein's not
Speaker 2: asking you to go to the, ninth that's my point
Speaker 2: that we didn't say that. Before now you're not going
Speaker 2: to the. Night even IF i say, measure how tall are?
Speaker 2: You you'd, say you say six f it six foot
Speaker 2: one inch to give her take. Six look's fight between
Speaker 2: five eleven and six? Feet but what's? That BUT i
Speaker 2: want so the question IS i want to ask You
Speaker 2: ZENO'S i Got zeno's. PARADOX i don't even know what
Speaker 2: it means to measure you was.
Speaker 1: In my, gosh this is so retarded that NOW i see.
Speaker 1: Why NOW i see why people were calling this all sued, ship,
Speaker 1: right BECAUSE i thought we're gonna have something interesting with
Speaker 1: The leibniz. Stuff it wasn't even about liive. Notes it's
Speaker 1: like two seconds About leibnitz and then, uh thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of word concept fallacies and just, yeah Apping, sudery which,
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Speaker 1: of the? FILTH i don't know what that. Is high
Speaker 1: On jack five. Dollars Is Jeff stein still dead or
Speaker 1: is he dead or? Alive is it a case Of SCHRODINGER'S.
Speaker 1: Pdf we don't. KNOW i, Mean i've not seen evidence
Speaker 1: showing necessarily that he's, alive but xfiltration is.
Speaker 2: Possible.
Speaker 1: Uh BUT i also think that makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense that you would offer, somebody uh who's a middle management.
Speaker 2: FIXER i mean measuring the top of your, hair the
Speaker 2: top of your, skull which and the finer the.
Speaker 5: More you're, getting that's you're being. Rabbinical this is like.
Speaker 1: Base oh he called him, out rabbinical Base duebanon So.
Speaker 5: Baze isn't, That what isn't that going through the tour
Speaker 5: where you're, where, you're, you're, you're you're parsing every every every,
Speaker 5: definition however we broadly define measure your life literally is about,
Speaker 5: measurement is it?
Speaker 2: Not it's about putting numbers on.
Speaker 1: Things by the, way that both SuDS and actual academics
Speaker 1: do the same. Thing so sometimes this is hard to parse,
Speaker 1: out especially if you're a non intelligent. PERSON a non
Speaker 1: intelligent person can't tell the difference between A sued and
Speaker 1: an actual scholar or, academic because both of them will,
Speaker 1: say depends on what you, Mean, well you know, what
Speaker 1: depends on what you? Mean what do you mean by your?
Speaker 1: Soul what do you mean by?
Speaker 9: That?
Speaker 2: Well fuck you.
Speaker 1: Know so both SuDS and actual scholars will do, this
Speaker 1: BUT i think in the case of, SuDS they do
Speaker 1: it to be kind of playing, games to not actually
Speaker 1: give you a clear answers.
Speaker 2: To what they're referring, to so THAT i can try
Speaker 2: that you can call it whatever you.
Speaker 5: Like that what makes you feel better to your scientific?
Speaker 2: Inquiry, no even a number of people don't a number
Speaker 2: as a. Complication when did you?
Speaker 5: Come when did you come to? This and flight why
Speaker 5: did you come to? This aha moment was when it
Speaker 5: was in when it was in your solitary confinement with
Speaker 5: the biggest FINANCIAL.
Speaker 1: Crst somebody said, This nick, said this is a practice.
Speaker 1: Interview that could be. True that maybe that's why we've
Speaker 1: only got the first two. Hours but supposedly this is
Speaker 1: like many many. HOURS i don't know if that's the.
Speaker 1: Case but didn't ban and do Several BUT i think
Speaker 1: this was supposed to like Rebrand epstein as a. PHILANTHROPIST
Speaker 1: i think was what some of the emails or something.
Speaker 1: Said punch made what's? Up punch made you want to? Mute,
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Speaker 1: ollergy it would be interesting to Hear simpstein AND jf
Speaker 1: talk about consciousness and bananas and quantum. Loops, well you,
Speaker 1: know that's a great parallel because they kind of DIDN'T.
Speaker 1: JF jf got money From epstein for some sort of research.
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Speaker 5: Sein in world history was going on in your seven
Speaker 5: by NINE jsl with your metal bed and you and
Speaker 5: your two brushes because you were trustee with the brown
Speaker 5: uniform mons trustees spelled? Wrong is that the moment of
Speaker 5: clarity that you had about science And newtonian physics and
Speaker 5: everything that we can measure is really not going to
Speaker 5: be the way we go for. It it's going to
Speaker 5: be some, more much more Es speaking.
Speaker 1: Of, dawa by the, WAY i thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: That did you guys notice That jake The muslim metaphysician
Speaker 1: made a video saying THAT dawa has basically. Failed all
Speaker 1: The dawa people in their whole thing is bike collapsed
Speaker 1: and it's it really didn't. Work it's funny to see
Speaker 1: The muslims owning each other over. That that's correcting me, out.
Speaker 5: Terrek emotional? Intelligence thing is Your was that your? Moment?
Speaker 2: ATTORNEY i wish it, was would make such a great
Speaker 2: story for this, interview but it's. Not it's the fact
Speaker 2: DID i need such a privileged life to come?
Speaker 5: Across so when did you it didnt? Happen then when
Speaker 5: did it already happen?
Speaker 2: BEFORE i was going to hope we get to The
Speaker 2: i'm in the priposed position to have some of the
Speaker 2: world's smartest people come to my house and tell me
Speaker 2: what they think about different, subjects AND i finally realized
Speaker 2: that the thing that they had most in common was
Speaker 2: there was this this. Area no matter how smart they,
Speaker 2: were that WHEN i asked him the, questions they, said
Speaker 2: they'd have to resort to a five hundred or a
Speaker 2: thousand year old response to that, question which WAS i don't, Know,
Speaker 2: oh really.
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i wonder WHAT i wonder if that commonality between
Speaker 1: all of these new atheists and new. Dorks was something?
Speaker 1: Else jack ten? Dollars is this a is it this
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Speaker 1: sixteen minutes? Interview? OH i didn't know, that but, yeah
Speaker 1: if that's the, case that does make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense because they were talking about like rebranding him or you,
Speaker 1: know making him into a. Philanthropist put all of just
Speaker 1: two dollars the atheist comments under your recent tag video
Speaker 1: or super retarded. Arrogant all they say is that you
Speaker 1: never say to the. Argument, well that's they don't. Understand
Speaker 1: there's different types of. Arguments everybody thinks that there's only
Speaker 1: one kind of, argument which is the crackers in the pantry,
Speaker 1: fallacy which we've covered one hundred thousand times.
Speaker 5: Over you know who who else found that?
Speaker 2: Out It's.
Speaker 5: Socrates that's What socrates kept, doing, Right socrates kept asking
Speaker 5: all the.
Speaker 1: Experts oh, wow, Dude jeffin mcgeffery is just a. Philosopher,
Speaker 1: Dude he's just a, philo. Bro he's just Like. Socrates,
Speaker 1: Man he's just like asking the, deep penetrating questions about
Speaker 1: reality and. Life that's. All that's all he's. Doing and
Speaker 1: he's a great dude deep, down just asking hard. Questions,
Speaker 1: man what's the meaning of? Life? Bro where DO i
Speaker 1: put the peep in the poo?
Speaker 5: Poo?
Speaker 1: Bro that's all he's.
Speaker 5: Doing he would go, through you, know question after question after,
Speaker 5: question and realize at the end they didn't really. Know
Speaker 5: they really didn't basically understand what they were talking.
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Speaker 2: point with?
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Speaker 2: It but writing forces you into a very narrow channel of.
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Speaker 2: thinking you become somewhat. Narrow the most. Interest the REASON
Speaker 2: i brought up writing is one of the recent discoveries of,
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Speaker 2: anything they, spoke and people around who could write Wrote
Speaker 2: socrates could.
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Speaker 5: right never wrote.
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Speaker 2: carpenter and then' he need like little coppmenters to.
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Speaker 5: Thing thank you for having me to your. House let's go,
Speaker 5: back let's go. Vest when did when did that the
Speaker 5: beginning of? That was there any one aha moment and
Speaker 5: all these great thinkers did happened for two thousand and?
Speaker 5: Eight was it after that came? Up OVER i know many,
Speaker 5: Years but when did you actually, realize, hey, something something
Speaker 5: new has got to be? Developed, yeah that's?
Speaker 1: Great is?
Speaker 2: That because, Again i'm privileged enough to have people around
Speaker 2: me who've given lots of philanthropic gifts to institutions of higher.
Speaker 1: Learning and WHEN i, said oh, wow that's so, sweet
Speaker 1: everybody was just so giving and there's so much charity
Speaker 1: and philanthropy and is you know what better cover for
Speaker 1: Blow feld level crime villains than international? Charity?
Speaker 2: Right the impact have you? Judge how do you judge
Speaker 2: the impact of your giving? Thing and we sat down and, said, no,
Speaker 2: really new ideas have come out AND i realized that
Speaker 2: of course it hasn't come out because we've been looking
Speaker 2: at using science and mathematics and it's the wrong.
Speaker 5: Tool it's obvious institutions that are set up and try
Speaker 5: to put forward knowledge and understanding and. Truth should they
Speaker 5: take your.
Speaker 2: Money Derek bock At harvard said taking money for good
Speaker 2: causes is a good.
Speaker 5: Thing so If, hitler If hitler took all the gold
Speaker 5: of the teeth of The jews and SAID i want
Speaker 5: to give this To Heidelberg university to fund the leading
Speaker 5: it's chairs so THAT i can study high energy, Physics
Speaker 5: Derek bark would say that was.
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Speaker 2: i don't know the, Answer so.
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Speaker 5: the one answer why it shouldn't, be and then the
Speaker 5: one answer For Derek box, Says i'll take essentially take
Speaker 5: cash from anybody BECAUSE i got so many, projects so
Speaker 5: many good. Guys in this, Way i'll do it So
Speaker 5: i'm indifferent to where the cash. Comes with money's, money
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Speaker 5: says these are good. People this is a good. Research,
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Speaker 2: Money if you live it might just ask a.
Speaker 5: Questions your money dirty?
Speaker 2: Money, no it's not.
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Speaker 1: Day where Did epstein get his money? From just the? Island? Uh,
Speaker 1: well if you Read Whitney webb's, book she's got two
Speaker 1: or three chapters where she puts forth various theories as
Speaker 1: to where he might have gotten money or been a money.
Speaker 1: Manager BUT i don't know that anybody knows one percent for.
Speaker 1: Sure it's kind of theorized unless somebody has sort of
Speaker 1: dug through the files and found something explaining exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on in terms of money.
Speaker 2: Management why is it not dirty money BECAUSE i earned it?
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Speaker 5: you earned. It you earned it advising the worst people
Speaker 5: in the, world right that do enormous bad. Things, uh
Speaker 5: and just to make more.
Speaker 2: Money so instead of asking me the, question should you
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Speaker 2: if you think it's a.
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Speaker 1: pakistan In.
Speaker 2: India instead of asking me whether that money was should
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Speaker 2: might want to ask their mothers who received.
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Speaker 1: Oh Sam? Harris oh you want to question? Atheism what
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Speaker 1: by a? Terrorist what about? That what about this emotional? Appeal,
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Speaker 1: financial services for the worst people in the. World he
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Speaker 1: about the mothers whose children were saved BY i, mean
Speaker 1: this is so silly.
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Speaker 2: and ask them IF ee should have helped these?
Speaker 1: People, yeah immediate virtue, signaling which is a huge uh red.
Speaker 2: Flag if we want if.
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Speaker 2: for my.
Speaker 5: Children did they know where the money came?
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Speaker 2: Stuff, Said i'm going to exchange some dollars because you told's.
Speaker 5: Life do you think you're the devil? Themself?
Speaker 2: No, no BUT i do have a good.
Speaker 5: Mirror it's a serious. Question, sorry do you think you're
Speaker 5: the devil?
Speaker 2: SELF i, know why would you say?
Speaker 5: That because you have all the. Attributure you're incredibly. Smart
Speaker 5: you remember the devil. Is somebody knows what the devil's.
Speaker 5: Brilliant you Read Milton's you Read Milton's Paradise.
Speaker 2: Loss, no the devil scares.
Speaker 5: Me satan. Is satan is the is the he is
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Speaker 5: and the reason he goes To hell and leaves the
Speaker 5: rebellion is because he can't be the top. Guy and
Speaker 5: his thing Is i'd Rather i'd rather reign in hell
Speaker 5: than serve in.
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Speaker 2: DOMA i don't remember who said. It, okay we have
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Speaker 1: American?
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Speaker 1: now what's? That y'all Saw epstein's playlist. Too when somebody found,
Speaker 1: that like his iPod play it was a such a
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Speaker 2: SELF i don't know why would you say?
Speaker 5: That because you have all the, attributure you're incredibly. Smart
Speaker 5: you remember the devil. Is somebody knows what The Devil's
Speaker 5: you Read, Milton's you Read Milton's Paradise.
Speaker 2: Lost the devil scares.
Speaker 5: Me satan, Is satan, is the is the he is
Speaker 5: the he is at the number one or, Two and
Speaker 5: the reason he goes To hell and leaves the rebellion
Speaker 5: is because he can't be the top. Guy and his
Speaker 5: thing Is i'd Rather i'd rather reign in hell than
Speaker 5: serve in.
Speaker 2: HEAVEN i saw that in a movie once Called The American.
Speaker 2: DOMA i don't Even.
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Speaker 1: It's epstein And ebert over, Here ciskel And, Epstein american.
Speaker 1: Dharma oh is this he was making a dumb joke
Speaker 1: because that's a bandon movie movie About, Bannon Errol morris's
Speaker 1: documentary About. Bannon it's Certain bannon as. Qualities, Okay, ANYWAY
Speaker 1: i thought that was gonna be some kind of actually interesting.
Speaker 1: Movie but that doesn't look that. Interesting there was another
Speaker 1: super chat. Here what do you estimate HIS iq? IS
Speaker 1: i don't, KNOW i would GET i, mean if you're
Speaker 1: being serious on A wexler, scale he's probably one twenty,
Speaker 1: one twenty five, MAYBE i don't. Know what do you guys?
Speaker 1: Think all? Right, uh we went full on all. Night
Speaker 1: thank you. Guys everybody have a good.
Speaker 4: Night mm hmm