Speaker 1: Work ethic. So let's take that into account the next
time you are tempted to say it's not my fault
that I'm in this situation. Everything sucks and it's everybody
else's fault in it. No, Yeah, things are bad, but
there's always been corrupt people and things have been bad.
So that's not an excuse for sloth, and it's not
an excuse to try to circumvent righteous ways of operating.
Seventy reasons, five dollars. I'm looking to start my journey
into orthodox I was Baptist, raised Baptist help our Brimstone,
saw a lot of hypocrisy, and it turned me off
of religion. Thirty five years later, your debates and your
content are opening my eyes. Thank you. Well, I'm glad
to hear that. And yeah, I don't blame you. I
think a lot of people kind of, especially if you
grew up in the fundamentalist type stuff as I did,
you kind of have a phase where you're like, Nah,
this is stupid, and then usually you kind of, you know,
gradually make your way back to more sensible historic versions
of the religion. Tara Michael two dollars. Do you experience
cognitive dissonance. I'm sure everybody does right, because ultimately we're
all fallen, and so we all don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong.
So I'm sure that there are things that I don't
know about that I haven't even noticed that I have
cognitive dissonance about. But I would imagine that's true for everybody.
I think nobody in this life is going to be
completely free from traits that characterize the fallen state. Crash,
filmsen dollars day, blessings to you. You are a great
influence in my twenty two year old life. I'm a
cad I mean Catechists at a Greek parish. All right,
why are you ro Corp? I think roqu War has
done better being faithful to the Orthodox tradition. Generally speaking.
It doesn't mean that that there's nobody righteous amongst the
Greek Orthodox or anything. I'm not saying that at all.
Just for example, you know, Rokor had the nineteen eighty
two or three statement, for example, condemning acumenism. And while
there are many people in the Greek churches who are
anti ecumenist, the hierarchy typically is pro acumenists, so I
think that there's reasons like that, and also beyond any
of the theology stuff, I just ended up vibing really
well with my priest. We have a great relationship. He's
been a very awesome person in my life. Have a
lot of respect for him, and everybody that meets him
also feels the same way, and a lot of people
respect for the Vladimir, So I don't have anything bad
to say about any of that. He's an amazing person,
loving very dearly. Bill Brown ten dollars. Where can I
get Jay Dyer subject matter list of books? It was
on the website, but I took it down because it
was all jumbled up and the code was all crap.
So just you could look at my channel, the global
Elite books that we cover, or top fifteen Orthodox Books,
top fifteen books to read before you die. Those are
good places to start, but you know, there's not really
one master list. I think if you read, if you
get the Red Book, my read book, in the back
of the Red Book, there's a reading list, So you
can go to my website and in the shop get
the Red Book. American squid Word two dollars. What business
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stack bitquin even though bigcoin didn't exists, but still Faradine
Karno five dollars honor your father mother? Is that absolute? No?
None of the commands typically are absolutely. For example, if
your father and mother if they try to undermine a
higher authority such as God, you honor the higher authority
over the lower. So, for example, if your father and
mother said you must worship bail, we are your parents,
you must honor us. You have a duty to a
higher authority to not worship bail. What about situations of
where it's impossible and the parents are abusive, Yes, toxic
parents and family members. You must set boundaries. You must
do things like gray rock all of that, especially if
they're narcissistic. But you also have to be careful to realize,
you know, am I being a rebellious kid? Or are
my parents actually being abusive? And if they are being abusive,
then yes, you do have to set boundaries even with parents.
So no, honoring your father mother is not absolute because
they're not God. Cayden fifty dollars. Hey, can we get
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and I immediately puked. Ironically, when I had a zen,
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do not have that problem with alps. I enjoy alps.
Never puked from an alp, and I don't know where
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it so so. But maybe Copenhagen mint is a flavor.
I think you know. ALP only has like a couple
of flavors, so I've only had the the juicy fruit flavor,
which is pretty good. Ta's like juicy fruit.
Speaker 3: They just sent us like a box, yeah, like a
ton of samples of ELP stuff. And I don't use
nicotine normally, but the really lotos ones, if I just
keep it in for a couple of minutes, it's awesome.
It like, uh, really helped me focus on working and stuff.
And then they also have caffeine pouches which are amazing.
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finding people like I'm assuming that's what Rachel's getting at,
like maybe to be a sponsor or something like that,
because I know that when Dasha got canceled, they reached
out and said, hey, we would sponsor you for getting
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reach out to alp for that. All right, we're done
with proverbs, so let's get back over to Jeff slim
mc effree or we'll never finish this because we're making
pretty good Progresser, Jeff, what have you been up to?
We forgot about you? Sorry man, sorry dog? What's you
think of? Jeff? What's on your mind?
Speaker 2: Things as a machine and unfortunately so if your car breaks,
cars were always easy to fix, My jets, my cars.
If it breaks, I know it can be fixed because
it simply follows the same pattern. If this part breaks,
you replace the plot and the thing works again. People
and the financial system are not machines. They can't be
fixed the same way. You can simply take out the butt,
put some more juice into the commercial paper market, and
that's like replacing the oator on the car. It's much more.
I have a patient who can't breathe has a stomach problem,
can't see this, looks bleeding at the same time, what
do I do? First? I have to think about it
as a system. Where's the most logical place, what's the
most dangerous place? If your heart stop, we have to
start your heart again. If in the equivalent to the
money market, why do I have to start your heart again?
You need to get your blood flowing. If your blood stops,
you're dead. If liquidity, which is the equivalent of blood
in the financial system, dries up and.
Speaker 5: Once like liquid is basically cash, putting cash until.
Speaker 2: He gets that's what it is, Okay. Liquidity is liquidity.
It allows the system. It's the blood of the system.
You need to pump blood hard into the body of
the economy to keep it flowing. And if you're especially
when you're worried about someone dying, you're not going to
be worried about the niceties of well, you got the
shirt dirty, you know, some damaged. Pump in that blood,
keep that.
Speaker 5: Hort you talk to to the person in treasure on
Tuesday the sixteenth, did you get a feeling as you
were sitting in your six x nine jail cell in
West Palm Beach, Florida, that they were on top of things.
Speaker 2: No, you can't, it's impossible to be on top of things.
There's no such thing. It's again the doctor watching the
patient die. You hopefully have some confidence and he's seen
it before. He recognizes that there's some steps he has
to take first before he bandages the guy's finger, worries
about what shoes he has on. So you hope that
the people in charge your doctors who are working on
the emergency patient have enough experience and frankly judgment to
try to keep the patient to life.
Speaker 5: And I think did you think that they had those
things patients and judgment?
Speaker 2: They had pretty good judgment and you needed a lot
of luck. Just like in the dead patient. You need
to hopefully you put that blad in and it's not
too late, and you maybe you make some mistakes, but
you have to know you can have to give it
a shock.
Speaker 5: In the run up to the September crash of two
thousand and eight, I guess you weren't occupied with finance
that whole summer. How long had you been in jail?
Speaker 2: I went to jail June thirtieth.
Speaker 5: So the entire summer.
Speaker 1: So our good buddy Banana up the butt. One of
the fattest super chatters over your shout out to him.
He's always given these big fat daddy wore bucks super jess.
He says, for one hundred dollars, Jay. The genius Epstein
stuff is legend. It's legend building. Yes, this is a
great point in intelligence operations and intelligence cover. You build
a legend which is your backstory, and it needs to
be plausible. It needs to have, you know, some credibility.
It needs to have some des it can be verified
to make it plausible to other people that, oh, you
are a money manager and you worked at bear Stearns
and you had a math degree and you were at
you know, Bill Barr's Oss Front School. Yeah, so okay,
you're you're a good dude. His system building stuff, or
the systems analysis that he talks about, is a mix
of the infamous document Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, which
we covered on my channel. That curious document. I think
it is real. It describes a systemic analysis of the
global architecture. It was discovered I think in a NSA
or Rank corporation machine kind of laid a in a
copy machine years ago. It reads like a real white
paper to me, like a real policy paper at a
high level. We did a talk on the silent weapons
paper maybe four years ago on the Channel, and it does.
I'm glad you called that to memory here because it
does sound like the type of analysis that Jeff Stein
is giving. And you say it sounds like Rank corporation
stuff exactly exactly. Rank Corporation, of course has a lot
of mathematicians and tech level people, including neo conservatives and
Jewish Trotskyite neo conservatives like Volstetter Herman Kahn, all of
whom kind of formulated the idea of the Cold War
and usually set destruction rational choice theory. All that comes
out of the Rank Corporation. And by the way, we've
done a lecture on alex Obeya's Rank Corporation book, Soldiers
of Reason. It's one of the global elite texts. Allergya
drove me crazy, and we did a mini documentary on
RAND that I put on Twitter the other day. Of course,
this's got no views. Nobody cares about this. It's the
real information. So allow me to fresh your memory. RAND
is another one of the top think tanks that has
engineered modern America. Kubrick doctor Strangelov in Dark Secrets of
the Rain Corporation. Of course doctor Strangelov is satirizing the
Rain Corporation. And there's that. And by the way, I
did talk to Vivian again, and Vivian says, let's do
the interview in a couple weeks. So props to Vivian Kubrick.
We will be doing our interview finally, and we will
also be talking about film some. She does not want
to only talk film, which is understandable if I was
Sean Stone or Vivian Kubrick or whoever else, they're probably
sick of talking about Oliver Stone or Stanley Kubrick movies.
But she did say we would talk about some films
and not just Kubrick films. We're gonna be talking about
films that she described as anti tyranny films, and so
she said, can you suggest some, and just sort of
off the top of my head, I said, well, we've
got you know, they live as a kind of a
classic conspiracy movie. We've got lives of others. I forget
what I might have said, snow Piercer. I just listed
a few suggestions. So now, Viva Vendetta is a little
a little iffy. I mean, I mean it's kind of
anti establishment, but it's also kind of a siah because
it presents the establishment as a Christian theocracy. Come on, dude,
that's like Handmaiden's Tail level bullshit. It's like, who really
believes that the threat to Western civilization is a Christian democracy?
R rusa fifty dollars. If your goal is quote truth,
why is your brand of apologetics perfectly mirror Giazimov's doctrine
for using spiritual moral values to destabilize a target population
to trust and their trust and their own national institutions.
So he's he's referring to the Russian doctrine of operations,
which is active measures and their policy of calling out
corruption in other countries. So, because Russia is a smaller
geopolitical operator in comparison to the rest of the Atlantisis establishment,
they opted for a strategy of calling out corruption and
focusing on real stories.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So, in other words, if you look at art, for example,
a lot of rt IS broadcasting over the last fifteen
years has been focused on conspiracy topics, things that are
focused on elite corruption I'm talking about now. A lot
of that is leftists too. By the way, but as
an Orthodox Christian, I am not beholden to or affirming
Giasmov's doctrine I don't go. I've never been to Russia.
So he's sending the supertrasts to try to give the
impression that although I have been invited to Russia three times,
I've not gone to Russia. And as I said, Orthodox
Christianity is in between two powers, especially during the Cold War.
You have the CIA and British intelligence, and you have
the KGB NAM KVD. So if we read this article
here you get an overview. And by the way, I'm
not affirming everything that this guy says. This guy ended
up being I think he's been defrocked. But his article
detailing the history of Cold War stuff and the Russian Church,
if people want the actual history, it's called between two thieves,
the KGB, the restaurants, Rock Church and the CIA. This
is a good history of the nuances of this period.
On top of that, I've actually interviewed and done discussions
with people who are experts in the Cold War operations
and the KGB. So if you go back to my
Metropolitan Jonah interview, we have a history of the KGB
and the Russian Church here, so you can check this
out from a historical perspective anyway, So this is a
person who I think is been indoctrinated into the Western
approach to psychological warfare and indoctrination. And he's assuming then
that if I attend a Russian Orthodox Church, which by
the way, does not agree with everything that Putin does,
Rocorp is not one percent on board with Putin. They
will argue that because rocor went back into communion with Putin,
that we're run by Putin. All of that is Neocon
Pentagon strategy. So my question to you would be, why
are you spouting the Neocon Pentagon strategy? And no, if
I call out my government, that is me being a patriot.
That is not me being a Russian stooge. So you're
actually just undermining your own argumentation by saying that if
I call out government corruption, that makes me a Russian agent. Dude,
that's like Neocon gaslighting. One on one, So you explain
to me why I should follow neoconservative doctrine and neo
conservative war mongering. R rusa Free Reign Jay in the
two thousand and one Dennis Bush now, PhD. There's a
NASA presentation. Yes, we've covered this presentation because Burmas did
a whole talk on it was really good. I read
the presentation. It was deleted in twenty sixteen. You can
still find it though, if you go to Burmas's lectures
on it. It gets into like nanotech and all that stuff.
I memes five dollars. Do you think this is being
released to make us realize that we are helpless? No,
I don't think so, Tuxedo. If the economy is biological
as bitcoin steroids, more so life's than steroids. Jim bob
Any advice on how to read more and longer. Get
used to audio podcasts. If you, for example, have a
long drive to work, makes that a time when you
listen to books. I mean, audiobooks are not as good
as reading and taking notes, but it can come close,
and it's the next best thing. And if you work
a job where you're having to do a lot of
you know, activity type stuff, if you can try to,
you know, try to listen By the way, one last
note on the Russian doctrine of foreign operations. We did
an interview with Dugan ten years ago. You can listen
to the interview and multiple times over. After the interview,
I gave my critique of Dugan's perennialism and the gnostic
elements in his philosophy. So you can play the game
of trying to read into my motives, which is interest
because the first part of your comment says, if you
are really after the truth, well, there's nothing more lame
to try to argue than people's motives, because you can
never prove or disprove motives unless you have some text
or comment where I say to say, hahaha, I secretly
have bad motives, but they will never know. Like outside
of that, you can never prove or disprove anyone's motives.
So to just bring that up is like the lowest
tier of debate and it's more like gaslighting. Beck evangelist
ten dollars. I want to apologize for what I said
to you and how I acted on X a while back.
I was ignorant and spite and I'm ashamed of myself
for what I said to you. God bless you. And
keep doing your work. Well, hey, I appreciate that Beck Evangelis.
Not a lot of people reach out to apologize. This
week should be nothing but apologies. But I didn't expect it,
So that's okay. All right, let's break it up a
little bit or evil Nico. Let's take some calls evil Nico.
Speaker 5: On you.
Speaker 6: You know what's up, Hi Jay, Let me go find
the question because I have ever written down. I would
want to know your opinion on the on Patrioch Krills.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever went over it.
Speaker 6: But his his statement on serving for the Russian military,
You'll be cleansing all your sins if you die in Ukraine.
Speaker 4: I just want to know you're like your opinion.
Speaker 1: I think the ro Corps bishop said that that might
be going a little too far. But if he actually
said that, no, just being in the military doesn't cleanse
your sins. But my assumption would be that there's probably
more context to that and the Russian statement on Church
State Relations from twenty twelve or twenty sixteen, that famous
document that actually says no, it's there's nothing wrong with
defending and supporting your homeland, and that is a noble
and perhaps even a martyr's death. So in terms of
the context of the Russian tradition, there's nothing actually wrong
with dying for your nation or for your homeland. That's
a Christian principle that's been exemplified for two thousand years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Jay, I knew about you know, dying
for your homeland and protecting your people.
Speaker 5: That's a noble cause.
Speaker 6: But thank you for clearing it up and letting me know,
because my friend was asking me about it and he
wanted to know what your opinion on it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: Not listening to anybody criticizing that comment if they're from
the Roman Catholic domain, because the popes said the exact
same thing about the Crusades. But also, I mean, is
that really what he said or is that just what
Western media is saying that he said. I want to
see the full context. So but also a problem saying
that Carol couldn't make theological mistakes. So what But you're
no different than the It's no different than the pope. No,
it is different. Carol's not a pope. Carol has nothing
like the status of a pope. The church doesn't hinge
on him. In the Romancolic system. It does nine hundred
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you Yah, that's okay, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 1: I got a question?
Speaker 7: Do you think it's time to followed Larry Lorenzo's thirteen
tips would be a bitcoin there?
Speaker 1: Uh no, Actually he fell for the scam of like
crypt all coins because he seems to be interested early
on in bitcoin. And people shouldn't find this that surprising
because he was interested in every emerging tech. I mean
he's interested in cloning DNA, neural networks AI. Oh, I
guess we Epstein was into AI. So if you're into AI,
you're into Epstein. This is how stupid these people think
he was early interested in bitcoin for sure. That's there
are USA ten dollars. You don't expose corruption. I've been
here for fifteen years with the same message. So I
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What is your evidence that I'm not independent? You're an
FSB agent? Okay? Are you a paid asset? Do you
have do you have any proof of any of those things?
So notice it's all just accusations and hearsay Byzantium Reborn.
Where did it go. Can you do some pull washer?
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By the way, notice this guy. We're sitting here talking
about Epstein, the biggest global architecture scandal in the history
of the world, and this guy's here calling me out.
Yeah it's not Epstein and his international network of bond
villains that's the bad guy. It's me, a YouTuber with
not even two iner case subject. These people are just
so ridiculous, man. They can't see the log in their
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we're caught up on super chats. Let's get back to
Jeff sah McCaffrey or Milon Milan. Milon Milan.
Speaker 8: What's up, dude, Milon Milan, what's up?
Speaker 1: I'm you? Max smiles? What's up? Max smiles? I'm mute.
Oh interesting, that's all this, all of the people calling
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like a march for life? I mean, I don't think
that old school activism stuff really does much. I mean,
you know, the people, the reason people do marches and
whatnot was to call attention to it in the old
days of media. So I don't know how much public
marches actually do in the era of new media. So
I mean, I mean, I guess you could march for
whatever you want to, but I don't know what that
would really. It's not gonna do much. Everybody's on the internet.
So mister Anderson, what's up, yo? How's going? Hey?
Speaker 7: So I was in a conversation with a it was
someone talking about, uh, the influence of neo Marxism in
the US, and I was taking the position that similar
to I think, you know, I think there's some substantial
evidence showing uh, you know, institutional involvement in things like
the drug revolution and the sexual revolution.
Speaker 4: And those sorts of things.
Speaker 9: And I was bringing up people like Kinsey and maybe
their involvement.
Speaker 4: With Rockefellers what have you.
Speaker 1: And I was and I was trying.
Speaker 7: To make the point that I, you know, I think
it's good reason to believe that things like all the
critical theorists.
Speaker 9: And their promotion to the front of academia and the.
Speaker 7: Front liberation of their ideas was in some way institutionally
motivated as well or you know, supported.
Speaker 5: And uh anyway, I was just wondering if you had any.
Speaker 4: Maybe like resources on that.
Speaker 9: I know that there's information out there about how Frankfurt
School people worked with the OSS and c A during
World Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would look into Wilhelm Reich. Wilhelm Reich was a
Frankfurt School guy who was a big promoter of the
sexual Revolution. I would get Rachel's book Occult Feminism. Rachel Wilson,
the Rockefeller's authorized biography that you see behind me has
an entire chapter on support for feminism. Right here, This
is the David Horowitz Official Biography of the Rockefeller's whole
chapter on Abbey Rockefeller funding Cell sixteen and radical femme
stuff in the nineteen sixties. She put millions of dollars
into it. I mean there's a lot Francis Stoner, Saunders,
Cia and letters cultural cold War. I just read a
few chapters the other day from what's the guy's name.
I left the book in Florida, so I don't have
it with me, but the one on Mockingbird Operation Mockingbird
that gets in. There's an old chapter in that on
the Congress for Cultural Freedom. Well, also Jeffson mc effett.
I mean, he's got his hands and everything right, Him
and just laying are interested in four Chan, they're interested
in uh Reddit, they're interested in Hollywood pop music. I mean,
what does that say? All right, let's get back to
Jeff Stein here.
Speaker 5: Yes, before you went into jail, you were still very
active in the financial markets.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 5: When you say active, you trade currencies every day, you
trade stocks all day. When when people something like you
or you give you give advice to people to trade
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Speaker 2: I don't trade every day. I think that's like like
whaty Allen said, you can't beat the bank.
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I think that, in my opinion, not medical advice, but
I think cigarettes usually are full of a lot of
chemicals in the paper and the glyph essay, probably they
spray on it. That would be my suspicion about CIGA.
I haven't spoke a cigarette in ten years, eleven years,
not nine years. Maybe, but my alps are really low
three miligrim nicotines, so it's not very much little balloo
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the books. I don't know if they're I mean, maybe
you can find pds. I don't. I don't do pds.
But yeah, so Donald Barr of OSS fame, who brought
Epstein into probably some degree of intelligence operations early on,
is the one that wrote Space Relations about international space
trafficking of people. So there you go.
Speaker 2: I try to pick my spots, you know. Judge Sorrows
picked his spot, and when the Pound collapsed, this would
have been a great money making opportunity that passed me
by when I was in jail. That's not how I say.
Speaker 5: In the run up to that, in the spring of
two thousand and eight, that's when Bear Stearns got in problems,
I think in the spring of two thousand and eight
and decided to bail it out. Did the Bear Searns.
Guys talk to you for advice at that time. Then
the big crisis and bear Serns.
Speaker 2: See again unbeknownst to most people. And it's easy to
blame people for the financial crisis, like you'd blame the
someone for giving your father the drink before he had
his heart attack. But what really happened. The real enemy
of the financial system was Bill Clinton. And if you
asked me what and who closed the financial crisis, I
would tell you it was Bill.
Speaker 5: Clinton because of what Bob Ruben and he did to
the financial deregulate the financial system.
Speaker 2: No, because as the last time we had our sixty
minute interview, you talked to me about home ownership and
you asked me whether everyone should own a home and
I told you no, it's too risky.
Speaker 5: So the financial collapse of two thousand and eight is
because of hard working African Americans, Hispanics and whites, who.
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton is the fault of it. I mean, come on, dude,
who actually believes that Bill Clinton was calling the shots.
Bill Clinton was chosen by David Rockefell under others as
they bragged Builderberg to be the Rockefeller candidate. There's actual
videos of that boy from tong Gat something Jay God bless,
what's a good platform for buying bigcoin because swan is
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I didn't know they weren't supported there.
Speaker 5: Wanted to have a piece of have an ownership stake
in the society that all rested on their shoulders. They're
the culprits.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Okay, Then I didn't say that
it comes I I was pretty clear with Bill Clinton, okay.
And why was it Bill Clinton? Because Bill Clinton wanted
to get votes from those people, and he sold them
the idea that instead of renting in a house, and
historically the values of houses has gone up, and he said,
you guys, in these.
Speaker 1: Local communities, we're going to skip out a little bit.
Speaker 2: I refused to lend to mister Bannon. But now he
has the big brother uncle. His uncles can do mathematics,
they can be balanced their checkbooks. So certain people in
Congress said, well, how do you value these prime mortgages
the banks that we've been valuing them the same way
we've always valued them for the past twenty years. The
accounting firms. There is something in this country called gap accounting,
which is the standard type of accounting, and we account
for them the same way we always accounted for them.
If we paid a thousand dollars for your mortgage last night,
when we put it on our books today, we're going
to say it's values of a thousand dollars. Just makes sense.
I paid for it. Let what's its value? It's a
thousand dollars. That's why I pay for it last night. No,
the congress people said, that's not really a good answer.
You know that that doesn't give us confidence that you
know what you're doing. Because what happens if you have
to sell it tomorrow morning? If I use there, something's
happened then you have to sell it. Remembers the kind
of stress tests. Would you be able to value it
at what you paid for it the day before? And
wellst she says, that's not the way you can think
about this. This is crazy. We always value things at
the course from the day before, and they change the
accounting method in essence to say, not what it was
worth yesterday. But if I have to sell, what would
it be worth? That's impossible. So what happens is every
bank now has the value something that they put yesterday
at lower than they paid.
Speaker 1: All right, the banking yapping is really getting old. We're
gonna skip out a little bit to the philosophy's section.
Ac don't have gold, bitcoin, money or real estate because
the crooks try to manipulate those things. Just don't do anything.
Epstein is everything. It's all Epstein, Epstein coin. Yes, put
all your money in jeff coin boy from Tongaku. No,
we did that. We got another one from Tory ten dollars.
My husband and I are always we love your work.
We're always watching you on the TV while I'm feeding
my baby who's two months. Awesome, you help guide us orthodoxy. Cool,
that's good here man. Anyways, did you see what Flintest
has been saying? Well again, I mean, I would like
to try to be a pauseive influence on Nick, if
that's possible. So I reached out to Tim and to
Ryan and other people who know Nick, and I said, hey, look,
there's an open door all the branch if Nick would
like to ever discuss anything, and it doesn't have to
be a debate because a lot of them took it
as overly agro ol. Why is he just run a debate,
He just wants get some attention. Okay, fine, we don't have
to have a debate, we don't even have to have
any kind of public chat or anything. I'm not trying
to grift or gain tradcat followers. I don't think those
people would want to follow me anyway. So it's just
it's the same with Elijah Shaeffer. Like when Elijah asked
me about Orthodoxy and said, hey, can you put me
in touch with Orthodox priests? I said, yeah, here's Father
Moses' number, and they had one conversation so irrationally irritable
ten dollars. Did you hear any of the rumors about
bitcoin content creators saying a supposed planned, deliberate drop because
Trump and company wants sixty K to load up for SBR.
I'm not sure if that would explain the monster rebound
at sixty I mean, I listened to several crypto channels
explaining what they thought was going on. But you know,
it's a lot of theories, so I don't know. I
think one thing I saw that was a really good
theory was it looks like a lot of people were
over leveraged with betting on bitcoin and crypto, and then
when that got wiped out, that tanked everything. But then
some people were arguing also that there was intentional selling
to try to tank it down. I mean, I'm sure
that stuff goes on, you know, until bitcoin reaches maximum
velocity globally, there will still be the four year cycle.
Everybody should be aware of that. Stand fast, What's up? Man?
Stand fast? What's up? Alfredy though, is actually platform to brainwash?
I don't think so. I mean, I think it uses
all the same techniques of all the social media platforms
to keep people there. But I think if you look
at the EU, they're trying to shut it down. So
I don't think they'd be trying to shut it down
if it wasn't doing damage.
Speaker 2: Never before in twenty years that they have to do this.
So something they bought at a thousand, find the books
was a thousand is now nine hundred and ninety.
Speaker 5: The bankrupcy of the drugel Burnham in ninety, emplosion of Japan,
huge run up in equity markets for the Internet, implosion
the Internet tw thousand, ten years later roughly, and then
this run up through the Iraq War and all that
to run up to two thousand and eight. Every ten years.
It seems like we're in some sort of ten years
before the nineteen nineties was the subject am I said,
like an astrologer, okay, that the Mathematican. It just seems
to me that's every ten years.
Speaker 2: That's misleading. That's exactly right, because.
Speaker 1: People, Oh, by the way, a lot of people who say,
in the case of like Elijah, Elijah reached out one
time and said, Hey, tell me an Orthodox church to
check out. This is when we were down there, uh
for the ten debate. He was like, what's the Orthodox
church I should check out? And I told him one
of the Orthodox churches around that area of floored up.
And then he sent me one text asking about talking
to Orthodox priests, and I sent him Father and Moses,
no other comments, no other questions. So it's like like
there's an open The way I treat a lot of
this stuff is there's an open door if people are
interested and if they really want to know stuff. I
think people have a sense that I know some of
these areas pretty well. Like those people can easily reach out.
So whether it's a lied or anybody else like they
there's it's very easy to you know, reach out and
ask questions or whatever. So you know, the ball is
usually in other people's court if they really want to
have whatever kind of chat or advice or recommendations or whatever.
Kevin Bacon five dollars, what's up man, thank you so much?
Six to six degrees away from you.
Speaker 2: Would like to see patents. People like to see patents
where they are on them.
Speaker 5: So a pattern of a financial crisis every ten years
is just in my mind. Yes, long term capital and
long term capital. The head be bailed out back in
the late nineties when everybody panicked, and that one the
big that bailout. The day would look small and it
was a.
Speaker 1: Five Sebastian, So I guess this is a separate day
because you've got a different shirt on. So maybe the
maybe Bannon was doing one hour segments. What's up Sebastian?
All right, he can't connect. Let's say, if we can
get away with putting Jeff Steine on double speed because
this is going to take forever, dude.
Speaker 5: Dollars ords thirty BIGI dollars. Cause people business fail all
the time, but they launch a capital the feeder reserve steptend.
Speaker 2: Say things people go bad, things go bad.
Speaker 5: Well, get to Yes, the local you're correct, The audience
is watchings. The little guys, they go back up all
the time. Nobody get a sho you why they're little guy.
But when long term cap Management goes bankrupt bear Starns
was bankrupor nmbers Croup, people care because.
Speaker 2: You know it's it's nunfair characterisation when you saidcau again,
it's complexity of the situation. If you think about the
you have a complex system. You have your body now.
In fact, the little guy is my finger. This this
is the bear Stearns is your heart, that's correct, But
the banking system is my heart. The system I can't
ris my because members that the way you haven't.
Speaker 5: Been able to hang out. You haven't out.
Speaker 2: You trying to one's hang out?
Speaker 5: Do you not? Can you jus try to do it? You
have it. You have it. Since we can't name another
guy that's as good as you, not there may be
a couple out there. You're not you're not bragging, You're
you're humble. It had to be sometime. Please tell me
there was some time.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jeffrey Epstein, it's very humble. Good job, Steve, Yeah,
very humble.
Speaker 5: Before you went to jail and basically got cut off
fro daily information in the summer of two thousand and
eight that you start to get very nervous that this
complex system that something was deeply wrong.
Speaker 2: Okay, first, when I say no one understands the system
better than I do, it doesn't mean I always sound like.
Speaker 5: Doctor, your friend's gonna get suited for given as any liability.
There's no contention the bit your fan.
Speaker 2: But the word understand is the problem. I don't understand
the system. So that's I don't understand the financial so
please stop.
Speaker 5: You cannot sit here and tell what we just went through.
I'll go through again. The hedge fund man so this.
Speaker 1: Is pretty interesting because he does understand it, but he's
also pointing out this kind of dark, irrational side to it,
to where it's like, you know, you don't understand, Like
I understand the financial system, but I also don't understand
it because it's a living organism that has a life
of its own.
Speaker 5: In TuS, the money managers, the central bankers, the commercial bankers,
the heads of the investment banks, the head of all
the trading desk, the top economists, and I'll throw into
business school lecture as a stander of all the top
two hundred, twud and fifty you can't name on the
top of your head. The guys are at least of
your level. You have to understand it.
Speaker 2: Someone no, sorry, we all don't understand it. No one
understands it. It's a mirror. That's part of the problem.
It's impossible to understand. That word understand simply means if
this happens here, that will happen there. It's predictable. Understanding
means it's predictable. It's not predictable. That's the problem. It's
very it's in complex systems. That was the fascination. Is
there a way to tease out some level of predictability?
In fact, what you asked, you would ask the question.
It is a great question, which was was it a
stroke or a heart attack? Now most people don't know
that before they were going to have a stroke, they
have a stroke? Did they they just have a stroke?
Did they understand why? In hindsight, you go back and
you can make lots of explanations. It might sound good,
and if you're talking to the working man, you're using
language that he'll never understand. It's complex. So he's just
like going to his doctor. He says he has a
gastrointestinal problem with he has diverticulitis. As opposed to saying
you had a stomach ache, you had bad food. People
don't like to say it in normal every man terms.
The system had a stroke, but we don't know why.
Speaker 5: But you just okay, hard working people and there's a
great social benefit. Would you not agree with having people
having ownership in the system.
Speaker 2: When you say ownership in the system, it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1: Your phone too.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, alright, come on, Jeff down, you fucked up
with this. You will get through this phone. But you
cannot possibly have s to sit there knowing that you
came from nowhere, knowing that you went to the very
top of what is considered outside of science and maybe physics.
The thing people, most of my are cause it like
alchemy understanding high finance, to sit there in what will
be the defining financial crisis of our time, like like
Black Friday and or Blacks Monday, whatever it was in
the Great Depression, and be there at that exact moment,
triggered in part by a firm that you used to
be a partner in it and knew intimately well, and
it created much of your initial net worth because of
and know that you couldn't someone who lives on a phone, right, Yeah,
cause you do live on a phone, right, right? You
had to make collect just too collect costs. You cannot
tell me sometime during that day you did not have
that conversation with yourself of how the fuck did I
do this to myself to put myself in West Palm
Beach and a six by nine self the metal fucking
bed with a brown shirt that said trustees spelled wrong.
Speaker 2: So did I find it amazing that I was there?
Speaker 5: That's not amazing. I don't want to say it was
not funny. Oh I thought it was like I wasn't funny, right,
But not amazing. It was incredible, incredible in what way
this trodible?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: How do I do this to myself?
Speaker 2: No, it's as incredible as me sitting here in this house.
They both just two sides of the coin. But send
drop and the things, all the sand Stuarts running down
the hills. That's the way I see the financial moment.
Speaker 5: You funded Santa Fe in the early nineties.
Speaker 1: Or late eighties.
Speaker 2: I believe it was early nineties.
Speaker 5: I can get backy, but early nineties Santa Fe was
funded for the study of complexity theory.
Speaker 2: We said he would a method. So let's let's back up.
So why did I buy a ranch in the Mexico
nineteen ninety three, So that's usually some sense I would
have funded it. In nineteen ninety Los Alamos, which was
the high energy lab up in New Mexico, was losing
all its scientists.
Speaker 5: And A says the most it was were Oppenheimer and
where the where a lot of the nuclear weapons furn
the bomb. That's what the Manhattan Project, Manhattan Project was,
that's Los Alamos. And you watched your property out in
Mexico to been near that, yes.
Speaker 2: Because the scientists were going to be They cut the
funding for high energy physics, but the people who worked
in loss almost would still be in the Santa Fe area.
Speaker 5: They cut that because the end of the this was
the Cold War dividend, right love of it.
Speaker 1: Were talking about the beef turkey email or something that
one's new that one just popped up today. I haven't
seen that yet, and people are speculating that that is code.
Do we have any reasonable confirmation? I mean, I could
obviously have no problem seeing that, like maybe they I
mean Jamie and are watching Hannibal, the TV show, and
it coincides very interestingly with what we're talking about here.
You know, is the pizza also code for something else?
I mean, I think the pizza is code known you know,
FBI stuff for underage things.
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is it C A N N I B A L stuff?
Nothing would surprise me. But do we have, you know,
anything pointing at that beyond? I mean, I'm not trying
to defend Jeff something, but maybe does he maybe just
mean a beef jerkey? I don't know, Like I haven't
even seen the beef turkey email. So let's let's listen
to Jeff and we'll see what that says.
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly why it was, because again people
thought there was the physics and high energy for it.
Really wasn't that.
Speaker 5: Inportant because that was about nucinal weapons.
Speaker 2: No, it was because they were trying to they decided
it was maybe not right. This was the same time
that Murray Gelmont came up with the term quawk qu
ar k. He picked it out of an old poem,
the work Walk. But it was something it was mysterious,
So they were starting to understand In the nineties that
in our world of the physical world, there was things
that were just unexplainable. They called it strange things. You
gave it a name, you gave it some characteristics, you
called it had charm. It was one of the turn
and had a charm, and had a flavor, it had
a color. But nobody really, no one, mister Bennan, understood
what it was, just like the financial system, and you
wanted to investigate that.
Speaker 1: So the email, somebody's saying that jerky comes up three
hundred and eighty times jerky recipes. Francis has time to
come over tomorrow Jerky class. I will bring a taste
of his new jerky recipe. He's working at a restaurant
called Cannibal Cooks. Okay, so that's why people are thrown
in the cannibal part. I've been eating beef turkey a
round a mile, really into beef turkey for a diet
six out portion of jerky six eight ounce. I mean,
I think we need more than that. It could be
people are saying, nobody talks like this about beef jerkey.
Let's see the best latest batch. I mean, my dad
makes beef jerkey and he talks about batches and I
don't know, I mean, and Gold reacts to it. They
found they think a human code. Again, we need to
see I think we needed we need to see more
than just beef jerky to figure out you know what
I mean, like and I'm not saying it's not there.
I'm just saying this, this one is one I just
saw today, so uh yeah, I mean, you know, when
we were watching Hannibale, one of my questions was like,
I thought, this gives you pryons, right, I mean, perhaps
they know some way to do the meat where it doesn't,
but it would be it would be funny if we're
over here watching Hannibal and uh, you know, Jeff Stein
is is into that. I don't know, anybody see any
substantial uh information or vindication on that or is it
just hearsay or reading the chat? I make possum jerky
sounds good. There was also an exchange where they mentioned
the jerky had a lab. Oh interesting, that's weird. Pepper
profit five dollars, great job, great work. Did you see
Jim Bob and that idiot Dave got Well, yeah, we
covered that. The first part of the stream, that was
the first two hours was the atheist nonsense, Sam fifty
ten dollars. What's your theory on Je being alive? I
don't know that yet. We have not. I mean, I
think those initial pictures were AI. It is possible to
exfiltrate someone, so but we need to see some kind
of some kind of good evidence for that. But man,
I'm over here watching Mad's Michelson and I'm like, damn, dude,
is these bros really eating bros out here? Is these
wiggas really eating wigas out here?
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if we could build tools so
others smarter than we could help investigate it.
Speaker 5: And that was the beginning of the sconceipt of the
Santa Fanastity. Yes, and Santa Fantasity was founded to do
study in this type.
Speaker 2: Of can these areas of strange things be described by
some form of mathematics?
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm trying to get at, the foundational thought,
the organizing principle.
Speaker 1: So he's talking about working at the Santa fantas To
which you said earlier, was about systems analysis at of
our high level and figuring out how to study and
predict large scale systems like global economics and could it
be predicted is what he's talking.
Speaker 5: About of Santa fe In the High Physics Lab at
at Los Alamos, which had created been the headquarters of Manhattan,
and the Trinity Project right the bomb. Yes, so you're
talking about the the elite, the High Priest of Physics
of physics, Yes, sir, which High Priests of Physics some
subset of that is also mathematic system.
Speaker 2: Yes, they both have similar project at.
Speaker 1: The High Priest of Physics. Interesting terminology again suggesting that
mainline normy physics, scientism, et cetera, as we said at
the very beginning of this discussion, is a top down enterprise.
Hence why all of the top New atheists were all
so close to Jeff sent McAffrey flying on the plane.
You guys remember Brave New World, which we did a
recent review. So I did a talk on Brave New
World ten years ago, and I pointed out the chapter
where Mostapha Mond says to John the savage you understand
that the physics and the science that we do is
not what we give to the dumb public. Right, Why
would Huxley put that in there? Well, because the same
thing then is what's going on now there is a
reddit Normy Physics that's given to the dumb down cattle.
And then there's a separate secret metaphysics that they believe
that they're in. They may be wrong, they'd be off.
That seems to be more akin to neoplatonism, perennialism, cobbalism,
et cetera. So here is I think where he begins
to talk about reality as math itself, in other words,
like we live in a simulation, or the reality is
a code, the matrix, this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: One of the tools you want to do is to
make sure that in this complex system, the finance system.
I'm doing a lot this for Philanthroy and for the
good the man of kind, but also to be able
to understand this complex system, the most complex outside of
maybe our body of the financial world. Yes, did they
create tools. We were you smarter in than the mid
odds fifteen years later than you had been then because
of work it was done at Santa Fe.
Speaker 2: No, it was great, but in fact most of the money.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, for those saying that there's nothing
to all this blah blah blah, which is totally idiotic.
Another high level political person, Norway's ambassador, suddenly stepped down.
She's named thirty three times in the Epstein Falls Mona Jule.
So so funny to see people stepping down over fake emails,
ding bat. What's up dude? Now? On this Kabbala part? Yes,
I have lengthy talks on what Kabbala is medieval Jewish
mysticism from actual scholarly sources like Gersham Sholin on my channel.
You can find those in the archives. But I also
did a recent introduction to what Kabbala is with our
good buddy Jake Ridlesnake, and Jake invited me on this
week as well to do a discussion on his channel
of the Jeff Stin McCaffrey Information. So let me because
I recently re shared that. Let me find that on here.
What's up, dude?
Speaker 2: I'm you.
Speaker 6: Hey, j.
Speaker 9: Is that earlier when you were talking to that guy
that was calling you sued and you had that very
interesting I don't know if you could call it a debate.
Speaker 4: Why was he calling you, Jason?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, it's like.
Speaker 4: I've been watching you for you.
Speaker 1: It could have been a joke. He could have been joking,
like because I always make the joke of like when
people are debating and they just start saying my name,
So maybe he thought it would be funny to just
say my full name instead of oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9: Do you have a serious question though? The I've been
watching you, both you and Nick for years, and I
like both of you, your your contents, and this what
I wanted to talk to you about was the his
downplaying of the pedo stuff, or or rather it is
the narrative control that Israel is putting.
Speaker 4: Out with their best books.
Speaker 9: People on Twitter about knicks downplaying of the pedo stuff,
and Nick counter to that being that what he's actually
trying to do is he's trying to overemphasize the the
Jewish fixer narrative because you don't have to, you don't
have to expose.
Speaker 4: What's already obvious.
Speaker 9: And so it doesn't make any sense to just keep
talking over and over about the pedo stuff. It really
doesn't make sense to just continue to re litigate the
pedo stuff over and over.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that's that's the fuller context for his statements. Hello, Hello,
You're saying that's the fuller context for his statements, and
then people are taking like that he said that the
Calariy Church, for example, allows what fifteen year olds. I
think in some countries is that what you're saying, what
I'm trying.
Speaker 4: To say is that I.
Speaker 9: Enjoy the I enjoy his content for the flavor, Yes,
but when he goes out, he does go off the.
Speaker 4: Rear was a little bit.
Speaker 9: He is young, he is you know, sometimes a little uh,
sometimes a little.
Speaker 4: Weird, and he says a lot of things that are.
Speaker 9: You know, out there, But this specific thing that he
said does make sense to me that you don't have
to expose with already in the light. We all already
know the obvious. You know, he enjoyed the company of
young girls. We get it, and he and he did
that for other people. But that was what he's trying
to overemphasize is that it was a means to an
end as a Jewish fixer, and that a lot of
it is like, oh, he's just a Satanic pedo, is
narrative control by Israel, and he wants to over emphasize
the Jewish fixer thing to push away the obvious because
we don't need to relitigate it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I definitely agree that the real crux pivot
thing is the international compromise fixer element. So that's the
most important. And I'm not down playing the abuse of people,
but the abuse in the number of the people is
smaller than the number of people destroyed by thirty years
of financial markets, war, chaos, all the things that he's
got his hand in. That's way more damaging than And
I'm not trying to be callous, but like, if that's
what you're saying, or what he's saying, and then yeah,
I understand perhaps how you might try to frame that.
I wouldn't have argued, but I mean, he's Catholic, so
maybe he thinks there's a point to arguing the fifteen
year old age limit thing or something in Catholic countries.
But I think it's I think it all matters. And yeah,
that's why there's always an open door. Is like I
think I could, you know, have insights on some of
these things.
Speaker 9: I would enjoy a competition between you guys. It reminds
me of his perspective, reminds me of when people bag
a politician to like condemn something as racist.
Speaker 4: It's like, what is what is obviously bad.
Speaker 9: And already in the light, does not need to be relitigated,
It doesn't need to be condemned. What we need to
be talking about is what people are clearly ignoring for
narrative purposes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that that's the narrative on X has
gone in that direction. I usually focus and try to
talk at a normy level to a lot of noormies,
you know what I mean. So I'm always trying to
convince people like, look, here's you know, the Rothschild's in
their biography saying yeah, we gained the stock market two
hundred years ago, hahaha, raging about it, you know what
I mean. So I'm always trying to focus on that
bigger narrative because a lot of people still don't even
know that this stuff is real, Like they don't know
that underage espionage stuff is real.
Speaker 4: So I'm the only Orthodox in my family.
Speaker 9: Entire family is Protestant, and recently my mom has been messaging.
Speaker 4: Me like, hey, what's up with Israel?
Speaker 9: And I'm like, I don't want to throw everything I
know at her immediately because I don't want to scare her.
Speaker 4: So I'm like very.
Speaker 9: Slowly asking her questions, do you think Israel?
Speaker 1: That's exactly That's exactly the way to talk about these
types of topics. To Boomers.
Speaker 4: Exactly right, I asked questions.
Speaker 9: I don't I'm not throwing everything I know about Epstein's connection.
Speaker 4: I'm asking her questions. And it just.
Speaker 9: Clearly, clearly the Boomers and the Normies are getting wind
of this, and they are slowly realizing, Okay, there is
an ethnic component to it, and we need to be
able to talk about it openly and freely, or we
don't have free speech in this country.
Speaker 4: We don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is true, and it's nice. Thank you
for that calling back. It's nice to be able to
at least have some conversations now that couldn't be had,
you know, if you years ago. So as we get
into the perhaps kabbalistic element of it, I'm not exactly
sure where we're going at this point in the discussion,
but I know it eventually kind of gets there. If
you're looking for a kind of a basic overview of
how these ideas ended up influencing people like Leibniz, who
Epstein will begin to talk about, as well as other
hermeticists like Hegel, you will find this introductory discussion here
with Jake Rattlesnake perhaps useful as we get into the
overview of what kabbala is. A lot of people don't
know what that is. They don't understand Medieval Jewish myssicism
is also based on a lot of neoplatonic ideas, as
well as some Hebrew textual ideas out of Ezekiel and
other passages, chariot, magic, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Most of my philanthropy in the area of can you
describe things that appear to be unexplainable by mathematics and
can you fund people who have new ideas? And unfortunately,
when someone thinks they've been able to there's a man
Stuart Kaufman, when they think they okay, I figured out
how to be able to predict the unpredictable, what appears
to other people to be unpredictable. But my system in
those days it's called genetic algorithms, can predict what things
will happen. Then they all want to make money, so
they use their systems to try to figure out They
know they have figured out the way to make money
because they figure out the unexplainable, they try, they go
bankrupt and we start again. So with a cold view,
what I've come to realize is that the attempt to mathematize,
formulaize or what in your prior work to understand what
really is in today's world still unexplainable, is impossible the miracles.
Speaker 5: Your first head of Santa Fe was crystal.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. So he thinks of the global monetary system
and the chaotic organism that is the global financial system
as a mathematical thing that's alive. It almost sounds like gamatria.
So there's probably a Gamatria element. And let's not mince
words here. Some of that Gamatria stuff is just ripped
off of Pythagoras, right. Pythagoras was a number magic believer.
He thought that numbers were mystical, magical things. That's a
big part of Platonism and Neoplatonism, and that element as
well as when you know the Hebrew text, for example,
used the first several Hebrew letters as their numerical text.
That's where you get gamatria. It's the same with the Greeks.
The Greeks, for example, used first in letters as their numerals,
So that principle itself is not necessarily some kind of
crazy nonsense. And even within scripture there are elements of gamatria.
For example, when John uses six' sixty six to stand for.
Nero that's an example of. It, now idiots on The
internet think that Gam atria is some magical code that
they can tap into to predict all of, reality and
that kind of seems like the direction That Jeff stein
is going. Into he wants to figure out if there's
a way to study and map out the organism of
the living mathematics that is global, finance which is odd
but makes perfect sense if you kind of know about
some of The gamatria and kabbalistic. Ideas For Langdon langdon
from from.
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yes and a wonderful. Guy he came out and helped
us with The vice for two. Project he came With Chris.
Landon Chris landon was the opera of the day.
Speaker 2: Today chris was doing artificial. Life murray tried to lead
his own artificial.
Speaker 1: Life.
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for the first big conference we had nineteen ninety, four
he was one of the most impressive guys there among
all the worlds of Lade q, gardens Though Lawrence livermore
lab The lambs Of, sandia you, know all the all
the major, Universities Lamont, dherty all the Big earth absorbatoris.
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i Invited Santa fe to be part of it Was
langdon actually made a presentation that everything and he's making
this a, scientists a lot of marine, biologists a lot
of people they're just beginning Whilely broker and people who
are just beginning the study of climate change at that
time called global. Warming that he made this compelling presentation
that everything's really. Mathematics it's all just back to, math
and you have to all these experiments you, do you're.
Not one of the reasons are not considered by The
High priest and physics as being real experiments is that
they don't have a mathematical basis to, it and everything
has a mathematical basis to. It Lang it seemed like
a radical. Visionary what happened to that?
Speaker 1: Concept, YEAH i don't think it's something About Chris. LANGEN
i don't know who he. Said it sounds like he Said,
langan BUT i don't think it's That Chris. LANGEN i
think IT'S i would assume somebody, different BUT i could be.
Wrong it sounds like he's talking about somebody working IN,
ai AND i don't know If Chris langen worked in
A ai or. Not, yeah so irrationally irritable ten, Dollars,
no we do? That excuse? Me sam became a. Member what's?
Speaker 2: Up you go back three hundred and fifty, Years so
you Have Isaac, newton you Have leibnitz from move, forward
you have think people Like heisenberg And, goodell girl, Eh
and what every one of those mathematicians and philosophers came
to understand is that this is something with this numbers
can describe certain, things approximate certain, things but in fact
trying to put measurements and numbers on other things that
are really unexplainable is. Folly it's so the three hundred
years ago they said that unexplainable realm Was. God and
the people who, attempted in fact to explain the, unexplainable who, said,
YES i understand the unexplainable With. Charlatans they were the,
occults they were the, astrologers they were the con. Men alchemist, yes,
well now alchemist was in, fact they believed that there
was a way to transmute one metal into. Another in,
fact they always wanted to see they can create. Gold
there's no, reason if you think about, it they recognized
that one metal is different than another metal because there
has some additional pieces to, it as additional neutrons of
protons or. Electrons so because they thought it was a.
Machine if they believed it was a, machine IF i
can take five protons and add, five that gives me,
TEN i should be able to get. Gold they move
everything around inside these. Systems the molecules transmute one molecule into.
Another and if this Molecule i've transmuted it into is,
Gold i'm a rich. Man it's back to. Money but
this something strange. Happens Isaac newton, says this is really.
Weird IF i want to push a ball on the,
TABLE i have to touch. IT i could have MAYBE
i have to blow on, it BUT i actually have
to push one side of the ball or the book
to move that. Side i'm pushing. Here and obviously this
thing is what appears to us the humans to be.
Solid so it moves is one. Thing but the only
way to get something to move was to touch it or
put a force against. It, okay it seems to make.
Sense everybody has that. Experience AND i want to lift the,
GLASS i lift. It IF i want to push a,
BALL i push. It If i'm want to pull a,
BALL i pull. It but he recognized when the ball
fell off the table fell off the, table it went
in a different. Direction how's that? Passed when nobody pushed
the ball? Down and he, says this is. Crazy why
did the ball go? DOWN i didn't push. IT i
just let it. Go so someone's pushing the ball BECAUSE
i know THAT i am confident that the only thing
that gets something to move is with a force that.
Pushes so there's a force that's pushing the ball. Down in,
fact he never called it. Gravity he.
Speaker 1: Measured i'm assuming he's going to go From newtonian physics
to quantum, physics and this is how he's gonna get
into the mystical.
Speaker 2: Stuff how fast it was, Pulled but never was able
to explain why it, Happened how is? It what is?
Gravity it's this everybody, says, well why did the ball
fall to the, Ground cause gravity took? It but what's?
Gravity that's As feineman would say that's the name of the.
Thing we have no idea what it. Is this goes
To Santa. Fe they were trying to put explain the.
Unexplainable can we measure can we figure out a way
to predict the stock markets using these types of chaos?
Complexity forget, that let'sash.
Speaker 5: Backs let's le's go back To newton Pre, newton and
then what Did newton? Solve that for millennia up To
newton had not been. Solved NOW i want to go
forward all the way To Santa. Fe what they were
trying to. Solve let's say with just two or three
the basic. Guys but let's go With. Newton what Pre
newton it? Was? What and then why Is newton such
a genius and such a in THE i think mathematically
they told me one, Time i've seen there'sen one hundred
and fifteen billion people roughly that have lived on The.
Earth and of that hundred fifteen, million, nay.
Speaker 2: You show this, number that sounds a lot of very.
High we only have seven ER.
Speaker 5: I think in the history of The. EARTH i think
I'll i'll pull the staft. FORET i think's one hundred
fifteen million. People they figured that's probably.
Speaker 2: Inflation that's why you have lived through the have lifted on.
Speaker 5: Earth but he's on the handful of the most Important
what did he solve? For why is he so important
for how we live? Today and then we want to
go through, Lead nits and the other thirty three of
the major whence to get.
Speaker 2: Us The santa Fe it's it's a long.
Speaker 5: Journey this is the heart of this is the heart
of what we're trying to.
Speaker 2: Do let me take a bit of a detwisting. Second
what if you if you went to high school and
the last year in your high school you took. Calculus
So Isaac newton sort of invents, calculus but that sounds.
Events you, know mathematicians, torture torture seniors in high school
before the. Graduate, yes but obviously, no yes, dances yes
said certain people can't can never do? Calculus why why is?
Speaker 5: It why is? Calculus? So why is that the dividing
line between you, know to, me people who could handle
that and can go on to do certain things and
people just hit the wall even if they know. Math
it seems to me that there's that calculus is the
thing that changes that cos it's a about the theory of.
Speaker 1: Change Du Well, bannon let him answer the. Questions bannon's
getting annoying.
Speaker 5: Here as in the theory of how things, change it's
a great.
Speaker 2: Question but in, fact what calculus does is it's somewhat.
Philosophical that's why mathematics is. Is you, know they used
to Be newton wasn't a. Mathematician he was called the.
Geometr that's what they used to call. Themselves they understood
geometry and. Numbers but there's an old conundrum where it
says if and During pythagoras Days zeno's, paradox it's called
where they, said, well IF i take if the wall
is two feet away from, me AND i take one
step that's halfway to the, wall that'll be one foot.
Away and IF i take another step that's half, again
there'll be half a foot, away then a quarter of a.
FOOT i could work, forever but never touch the. Wall
doesn't sound, realist doesn't make any sense in our real
lives of the. Physical but What newton understood as many.
Problems we like that many things approached the, wall or
in his, calculus approached the limit but never really reached.
It so he, said it's, okay you don't have to reach.
It we can do lots of the mathematics as if
it was so, close it was almost, there and we
could do a lots of mathematics almost being at the.
Limit and this is really, Important, steve for today because
most of the science up until, today.
Speaker 1: Who's that walking? Around is that just lane walking around the,
Background so somebody's peeping around.
Speaker 2: Was things that are starting to approach the. Limit you
were taught in high school that if you had one
divided by, Zero if you remember your high school, algebra
you were, told what's the answer to?
Speaker 1: That come, on, dude let's get to the.
Speaker 2: Point one divided by zero don't know if you were
in high, school it's, like stay away from it's the.
Boogeyman you could write it down as it's. Undefined it's
not able to be determined that there's a bunch of.
Things but in, fact one divided by zero is a
strange things. Happen it's a world of the. Strange And
i'll explain to you after is that when you get
one divided by, zero you get into. World we don't
know what. Happens the answerest it's Not oh.
Speaker 1: Shit, dude somebody said that Was candace astral projecting into
the video Damn and by the, way If Charlie chorleye
had that time, tech there's no reason And candas couldn't
go back in time and astral project into The bannon. Interview,
dude that's what that was.
Speaker 2: Explainable we can give. It we can call it things like.
Undetermined what we can give have a convention to say
it's IT'S, X y or. Z but in real life
we don't know what happens when you are actually at the.
Limit so that's An newton for the same. Concept is
that the limits Where philip god you got close To,
god but you can never Be. God he had this
sort of religious. Interpretation, OKAY i want to go back To.
Speaker 5: Newton why Is newton such a big dividing line in mankind's?
History what is it About? Newton what is about anybody
trying to solve what did they not know? Beforehand and
what we live to an?
Speaker 1: Agree doesn't everybody know this from like like first, love
like your first physics class in. College why do we
need A i know people want to Question newton and
they want to you, know people believe in quantum. PHYSICS
i know all That i'm just, like this is A
it's just bizarre that we went from corruption and high
finance To bannon wanting an introductory course On newtonian physics
of cost and. Effects it's just Weird newtonian.
Speaker 5: Universe ALTHOUGH i realized later some sub particle atomic, physics
but at least for a, while it was. Neetonia so
what's the? Divide why is he so? Important why is
he inflection point in mankind's movement from the swamp to the.
Speaker 2: Stars that's a great, question because stars were by. Kep
What newton starts to allow us to do is to make,
prediction accurate. Predictions remember that we've got talked about that with,
Money about the things in our physical. World how, cars
he didn't have cars, that how horse carriages, moved how,
things how boweling balls, Moved how pool cues and pool excuse,
me pool table. Balls wouldn't try.
Speaker 5: To solve that Before Newton mayklitis or you, Know Platinus
phathagoras that had these great he knew, again.
Speaker 2: But it was all. Numbers this was a system of
things in the physical. World And patagora, says we can
start putting numbers on things that help you predict how
they will behave you can add two triangles and make
a square some different. Shapes they're looking at gaymetric. Forms newton, says,
WELL i want to know how planets. MOVE i want
to know how things around me. Move can we find?
Formulas CAN i find formulas that explain WHAT i see
in the physical, world how physical things, interact and how
they describe one. Another, again the fact that two, things
two solid, masses for some very, strange unknown, reason unknown,
today attract one another no matter what they. Are people
have seen the. Experiment you hang of, something two little
metal balls from a, string they move towards each. Other
in fact they moved towards each. Other was a Very.
Speaker 1: Yeah there's different theories about Whether libnis discovered calculus Or,
newton or did they actually independently both discover. Calculus it's
an interesting, point but very.
Speaker 2: Specific so when you drop the ball to the floor
of this, Room newton, says in fact the room came
up a bit to meet the. Ball the room. Moved
it's in. Percept they can't really perceive that. Motion but
they attracted each other with certain. Ratio so he started
to be able to measure things in the physical world
and that was great. Advances it also now you wanted
to move very. Quickly, unfortunately most, people especially in the
twentieth century nineteenth, century seeing, well Like, newton let's measure,
everything let's measure people's, behavior let's measure their, psychology let's
measure their, health you go to the we can Have so.
Speaker 1: This is like, quantification, right the idea that everything could be.
Quantified and, uh now we Know bannon has an interest
in perennialism and uh you, know the traditionalist so called.
School So bannon has read Evil law and presumably free
thof shoe on And. Gannon so this seems to be
verging into the uh you, know rain of quantity From,
gannon that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like, this let's measure, everything measure their voting has, measure, measure.
Measure can we put a number on how MUCH i
care for my? Wife CAN i put a number on
HOW i? Feel and we, Tried, unfortunately we not try
to mathematize it's called quantification minor things in life and
then recognize that there's things that unfortunate fortunately just fall
outside everyone, Shorting, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's a great. Point normanis think this is genius, talk,
Right so like basic this is Even, like isn't this
like eighth grade? Physics people think eighth grade's physics class
talk is.
Speaker 10: Like, wow this is like this is like High braine.
Speaker 1: Stuff, wow high. Stuff Oh i'm terrible at. MATH i
don't remember any of that maths, shit but LIKE i
know this, stuff LIKE i remember a lot of. This like,
whoa this isn't even this is? What, yeah this is
why noormies will fall for like the most ridiculous. Word
Solid right wrote a.
Speaker 2: Very famousok about why his. Life he was trying to
figure out a. Way can't he describe the difference formulaically
between things that are alive and things that are dead, Answers,
no the things that are alive in my world are,
miracles not. Magic magics has a bad. Connotation you don't
believe in the spirit or the. Soul that's what animates.
People is your spirit your?
Speaker 5: Soul no. One but have you ever seen someone? Die
when they, die their spirit, Leaves the soul leaves no.
Question so when there's no question to, you no, question
there's no question to you that there is some animating
life force within us that leaves when you're.
Speaker 2: Dead, Yes in, FACT i refer to the. Soul there's
obviously a certain the questions in.
Speaker 5: The past would normally think you were. Soulless so have
you just know to have you talk about you actually
believe in it and have done some thinking About it's
pretty shocking in its own, Right in't?
Speaker 2: It well again? Mathematics Leibnitz And leibnitz, THOUGHT i, Said.
Speaker 5: No newton was At cambridge and he was ahead of
Math departmight he's, professor but likeness who would likeness A german? Professor?
Speaker 2: Yes but What leibnitz said is the soul is so
strange Because god took, chemicals which is simply the material like,
tables and he somehow made this material able to have a.
Thought how strange is that not only does it have a,
soul but this some way it was put, together that
this material substance is able to. Think so when you
say to, me it's obvious to everyone that this is
such a thing as a. Soul, now if you're part
of The, charlatanville you'll try to explain it to. People
the SOUL i describe as the dark matter of the.
Brain is it dark matter because in high energy?
Speaker 1: Physics wait a, Minute, jeff let's still a little pre
supping Of Jeff sain mcceff for, here religion and con
artists are the ones that try to explain the. Soul
by the, way here's my explanation of the. Soul so
are you admitting a con?
Speaker 2: Artist nowadays you hear in terms of dark, matter doc energy, again.
Terminology it's, complicated termine why is it doc? Matics we
can't see it as. Well what do you mean you
can't see? It, well somehow we see something moving towards
this area of darkness. SOMETHING i can see this. Thing
this appears to me to be, empty it's just, black
BUT i see it being drawn this. Way SO i, said,
WELL i know if this were, matter that would follow that.
Equation if this was, solid it would explain the way
this particle.
Speaker 1: Moves, Yeah i'm not detecting high levels of genius. Here
i'm detecting like basic familiarity with basic. Ideas that's so
far What i'm detecting. Here, SO i, MEAN i guess
what he said about live notes is kind of. True
BUT i mean you could read A wikipedia entry and
kind of get that much of.
Speaker 2: It BUT i can't see anything, here So i'll just
call it dark. MATTER i don't know what it, is
but it behaves as if there was something. There the
soul is obvious to everyone that there's something different between
things that are alive and things that are not. Alive
but we have no idea what it. Is it's currently.
UNEXPLAINABLE i believe we need an entirely different system of
analysis to try to figure.
Speaker 1: Out but now With, newton you, know, uh so, interesting
so we get he is talking about sort of mystical ideas.
Here so are we going to get full. Cobbalism let's
see where we.
Speaker 5: Go it's all his alchemic, study chemical studies and things
you've worked on the spiritual side leadnits that just talked
about the Soul schroeder. Talk it was like if a
modern scientist or someone that you funded AT mit At
harvard in one of these things talk in those types of,
terms they would be considered to be a wing nut,
today wouldn't They they would they would not be on
the path for tenure right.
Speaker 2: Unless they were in the philosophy of the. Moment that
this is exactly my.
Speaker 5: Point we're talking about three of the greatest mathematicians in
mankind's history that have really changed mankind talking like, this what?
Happened how do we get to a situation where they
could not be in the high, physics you, know they
could not be in the mathematic in the mathematics department
or working in scienceity.
Speaker 2: Physics so it's an easy. Answer newton was a combination
of mathematician or geometry then and, philosopher and as time
went on that those disciplines seem to.
Speaker 1: Well newton was an, alchemist so he Didn't he referenced
alchemy earlier and said he kind of gave some credence
to the possibility the transmutation of matter that he thinks that's.
Legit and now he's talking About, newton who was a
committed hermeticist.
Speaker 2: Alchemist move, apart we had philosophy who some of the
philosophers can't do, math and some of the. Mathematicians and
again mathematicians often break into two. Categories people that solve.
Problems those are more like, geometris you, know there's just problem,
solvers and then there's thinkers. Theoreticians they're more like the
old movement towards. Philosophy but neither one of those two
groups have been able to figure out why something is.
Alive as opposed to something that's not. Alive no one's
been able to describe what the soul, is but we
all know it, exists AND i think what we need
is a new science is a bad. WORD i think
science only describes the things we already know about the physical.
World in, fact there's an argument that the physical world
that we see has been created out of our systems
to be of.
Speaker 1: Mathematics so there you have A Pythagorean kabbalistic argument that
reality itself is mathematics or. Numbers and you do find
this in some of the well known famous physicists out,
there Like max Tech Mar max Tech, mark for, example
thinks that reality literally is, numbers which is again kind
of the Ancient pythagorean And platonic. Position so that's definitely
where he's coming, from whether you believe it or. Not
and it's interesting Because i've said for a long time
THAT i think that probably the elites, themselves And i'm
not saying that he's really some kind of like he
really knows the. Science he seems to be more of a,
sued but a very well connected, sued an organized crime.
Figure they have a different, physics and that's exactly What
i've been saying all, along AND i said that years,
ago Because Brave New world says That Mustapha mon says
To john The, savage we have a different physics and
science that is nothing to do with what we put
out to the. Normies we debase the normies through derascinating toxic,
culture and we have a separate understanding and discourse that we.
Do and it sounds like, mystical neoplatonic. Stuff and that's
exactly What justin McCaffrey is saying.
Speaker 2: Here. Mathematics everyone knows mathematics describes the physical world much
greater than it should unless you my, view the physical
world really comes out of conscious beings that have, mathematics
so they create. It this table appears to you AND
i to be solid to a bat or, if because
we have light that's bouncing off the table into our.
Eyes it appears solid if instead of eyes that responded
to wavelengths of visual, light our eyes responded to radio.
Waves the radio. Frequencies it's not. Different it's the same
type of frequency is light with different. Speeds the tables.
Invisible we know that our phone works in this, room
so the waves are coming through the. Windows the waves
are coming through the, walls so the walls are invisible
to that type of, radiation that type of. Energy the
walls ARE i can see them because my. EYES a
physical system determines that the walls are.
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Santa Fe institute in ten or fifteen years, later that
effort to study the complexity of systems. Mathematically, Yes, oliver what's? Up?
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it's LIKE i think he's just stalling for. Time he's
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stalin just. KIDDING i mean he said some. THINGS i
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is that it's the failure of? Science because in, fact
if some extent science doesn't describe, ROMANCE i don't know
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and Now i'm just. Joking, yeah this is a bizarre.
Interview this is just so. Weird we've got a couple
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Speaker 2: It with each other when some everyone has the same.
Feeling they've seen someone walk in the room and they, said,
oh that person gives me a creepy. Feeling science has
tried to describe.
Speaker 1: Science so this IS i, mean, wow sixth. Sense this
is so.
Speaker 2: Deep describe what creepy feelings. Means they just know it's
a creepy. FEELING i think, women AS i, Said.
Speaker 1: Jeff must be describing the feeling that many women had
when he came into the. Room so he must be
very familiar with people having the creepy feeling phenomenon last.
Speaker 2: Time have an intuitive. Sense what is? Intuitive they have,
Intuition they have, feelings and they're able to deal in
the realm of things that, men especially men like myself find.
Unexplainable they have Great women have. Intuition men see things
a bit. Differently men want to measure. Everything women in.
Speaker 1: That, Really i'll see he's an intuitive bro. Right we
had a lot of callers tonight calling in with their.
Intuition we should just follow their. Intuition, candae just follow my.
Intuition don't worry about a bunch of research and reading.
Books just follow my. Intuition, well it turns out just
On geffert is a good he's a he's a defender of.
Women he's a good old feminist at, heart good Old
jeff stim. Mceffort women have a more deeply seated intuitive.
Sense now do you Think jeff really believed that given
what he says in all of the other private, communications
particularly with regard to eugenics AND iq and all of
the nasty times.
Speaker 2: That he speaks of the wiggers that interested in.
Speaker 5: Measuring in what you're saying in, macrotterms you actually think science.
Mathematics maybe ultimately technology is moving to that more INTUITIVE.
Speaker 2: I think science and math are old, fashioned and unfortunately
people are still taught that they.
Speaker 1: Have, yeah we need a new. Science that's lady Led
i'm ready for slay queen, science slavey science. Girl and
it's just gonna be WHAT i feel at the. Moment
by the, way can that's going to be the high
priestess of the new, science because that's what a, dream
it's WHAT i feels at the, moment and it's WHOEVER
i don't like they is canceled on. Scientific that's the new.
Science and you heard it From justin'm okay for you
right there.
Speaker 2: Yourself they'll learn algebra in school and certain things in
school as opposed to learning to.
Speaker 5: Give is this What Larry summers was.
Speaker 1: Trying by the, way this is the public consumption. Stuff
Kater perr are going to be the new science.
Speaker 15: Queen remember when what his name, Was, fauci, y'all, remember,
y'all Remember. Fauci fauci, SAID i am the.
Speaker 4: Science don't disagree with.
Speaker 5: ME i am the.
Speaker 1: Science, Well Jeff stein is, Saying Katie perry is the
science of the. Future by the, way why do you
hate women if you don't support so hold on if
you are, Against but if you're a, feminist then you're
Pro Jeffrey. Epstein, see now we're toying with the fallacies
right perfectly.
Speaker 5: Enough but what he was trying to get to in that,
system the systems we study today are the way mathematics
either taught or.
Speaker 1: Understood jeff's sign be, Like so, basically What i'm saying
is That earth is to ashy.
Speaker 2: Okay, earth you, see is very.
Speaker 16: Ghetto it's very, ashy is very, ghetto and we want
to ungratify and unash The earth with a large quantity
of ditty oil that would moisturize the earth to make
it no longer ashy that.
Speaker 5: Women just havn't gotten up to the highest realms of,
engineering or physics or mathematics because of, that.
Speaker 1: Because there was oppressed, though because the patriarchy was oppress
on the. Women see, you, ladies y'all had a negative
appraisal Of Jeff sin MacCaffrey all these. Years y'all thought
he was a bad. Dude he's on your. Side he's
trying to get you a damn stem. Job he's trying
to get your stem cells and get you a stem position.
Speaker 5: Girlfriend and you're you're actually applying that there's a either
new branch or science or we've hid a inflection, point
like A newton that's going to go Into newton took
man kind of different direction because he was able to.
Measure then you had subatomic you, know Non newtonian. Physics,
later are you saying that you think there's another developed
field it's coming up that may take US i don't
know how many decades to get our hands, around but
that that's what's evolving out of.
Speaker 2: This, yes, yeah in FACT i think that mathematics it's
not the end of. Science every year someone says at
the end of we can't discover. Everything there's lots to
discover with a relationship to the physical, world but we
know we're a lot already in respect to the unexplainable.
World we almost know.
Speaker 1: Nothing somebody was calling, Him Jeffrey, simpstein we have the,
smartest funniest chat on the. INTERNET i, swear do you
guys make me cry laughing all the?
Speaker 2: Time women again sense it and instead Of Larry, Summers
i'm JUST i won't digress too. Much But Howard gardner
early on said there's not one form of.
Speaker 1: Intelligence it just occurred to, me how amazingly transparent this,
is how hypocritical the mainline voices of feminism. Are this
is a man who, steals, grapes traffics, women young, women
and he's publicly a feminist women's rights. Supporter amazing the
level of just Absolutely and by the, way how many
of the major voices of, feminism especially the male, feminists
how many of them have we seen exhibit the exact
same traits where they get busted for some grape scandal
or some insane level of weird deviancy that they're. Into
isn't that? Interesting? Shocker?
Speaker 2: Right it's not mathematical. Intelligence there's emotional, intelligence kinesthetic. Intelligence you,
know there's this argument THAT i reject that black people
are less intelligent than white. People it's not.
Speaker 1: True oh? Really is that why all of your text
messages and private communications say the exact, opposite because you
talk about genetics research and all the connections between genetics AND. Iq.
Speaker 2: Interesting we, know for example that IF i was in
the forest AND i had to run from the lion
or figure out a way not to be, eaten and
my competition is a Local, African i'm the one who's
getting eaten because they have the intelligence to deal with
the local. Environment so, wait what.
Speaker 1: Was he just saying that IF i was In, africa
the black people would eat me and SO i would
not be. Intelligent but he was in the context of
defending black people as not LOW, iq but then saying
that they're going to eat, Me like what that?
Speaker 9: Was that was a.
Speaker 1: Wild twist, There. Jeff it's just.
Speaker 2: Different it's not, better it's not. Worse but there's many
differences amongst different types of, people and to people have different,
intelligences and they excel in some intelligences usually and less
so in.
Speaker 5: Others one need to come to because the world of
high finance is a world of pure reason or is?
It is it a lot of emotion and gut checks
and and you, know on trading desk in central banks
when these decisions get.
Speaker 1: Made is it is it that, oh he was saying
he was running from a. Lion didn't he say? CANNIBAL
i thought he said the word cannibal.
Speaker 5: High church like the High church of science of high energy.
Physics or is it as much emotion that comes in
as much as the mathematics and the reason.
Speaker 1: The High church of high energy physics bizarre. Terminology it's
a great.
Speaker 2: QUESTION i think if you talked to really experienced and successful, traders.
Speaker 10: Somebody Said epstein cause he's.
Speaker 1: Fleeing Around africa from the cannibal. Tribe was? It lions are, Cannibals.
Speaker 2: And you ask them how they know what's going, on
they can't give you an. Answer they don't. Know they feel.
It they can feel the way the market's, moving they
can feel the way the stock's. Moving and that these
are not very well defined. Terms it's not it's difficult
to put in mathematics. Terms how DID i feel? It
you could look back and make guesses WHAT i was,
Seeing but great traders feel it and then act on their.
Feelings that's the. Difference many people feel it but are
afraid because they want a mathematical.
Speaker 1: Justification if, All i'm started to think it really is human,
jerky cause he's talking ABOUT i thought he said cannibals
eating him In? Africa was that? Lions i'm. CONFUSED i
don't know what's. Lost, boy they Take we're five hours into. That.
Speaker 5: Nis when you first got on the trading desk of
Bear stearns in the late seventies or midst, seventies were
you shocked by how little actual understanding of mathematics that
the traders. Comprehended, yeah, again we had A texas instrument
calculated most most, stockbrokers and especially before that can seventy.
Speaker 2: Five if they were, good stockbrokers could add that's about.
Speaker 1: It they.
Speaker 2: Couldmultiply if you could, multiply you were already in the
top fifteen percent of. Stockbrokers stockbroker simply meant, that, jeffar
there's a great there's a story WHEN i went to
the first PERSON i had no, money AND i said
how much money do you make a? Year and he
said four hundred thousand dollars. Impossible i'm making ten thousand.
Speaker 5: Dollars that's strolling more your family had made in his entire. Assistance,
yes and.
Speaker 2: He makes it in a. YEAR i, said what do you?
Do and he, said its too complicated for you to,
understand which is what the main thrust Of Wall street.
People they want to tell you it's too complicated because
if you understood, that that person was simply he had
a brother in law in fact in this, case who
ran the pension, fund the general. Motors his brother in
law would call them and, say buy a THOUSAND. Ibm
he'd hang up the, phone he'd write it out on
a ticket and walk it to a. Window that was
his entire skill. Set, hello, right what my brother in law,
says walk it to a ticket. Window give the example.
Speaker 5: When you're on the trading door a time that you
felt either complete uncertainty or you saw tone panic where people.
Speaker 2: To that's why it's so exciting, now BECAUSE i think
certain people are starting to realize that there's so many
things that are unexplainable that we have to think about them.
Differently music is a great, example just a it's a
common man's. Example you, know when you hear a certain
song it makes you feel a certain. Way how does
it do? That we don't. Know we can't mathematize. It
and even that, Music, steve nowadays we compress. Music when
you have a, violin it's compressed onto your. iPhone so
what is? COMPRESSION i, Mean i'm taking lots of information
And i'm cutting it into lots of pieces and squishing it.
Together and WHEN i squish, it.
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being IF i recall a thing where he thinks that
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Speaker 2: Does you're, right we'll compress.
Speaker 1: It he's Like Ron pearlman on. OZEMPIC i have.
Speaker 2: To take out lots of, pieces BUT i say that
they're not very. Important pieces.
Speaker 1: L bau five. Dollars what Would Kat williams say about?
Speaker 16: This, listen, Listen i'm gonna tell you all right, Now
ain't No jasim McCaffrey going up in my?
Speaker 1: Booty how?
Speaker 2: Okay it's those pieces that we take out when we compress.
Data to, me are the most interesting parts of. Life
you just said a while.
Speaker 5: Ago part of this new search for science may go
back to when people actually talking about a, soul and you,
said there no doubt in your mind that there is a.
Soul describe for me what you mean by. That what
do you mean by? Soul what do you mean to
solve different than the physical analog body that we're seeing
on film right.
Speaker 2: Now it's difficult to describe in. WORDS i, Mean i'm
not a. Poet poems get a little closer to what
that really. Means but we. Can even the concept of
what is life becomes complicated when you deal with plants and.
Seeds is a seed? ALIVE i don't, know and certain
people say, no it's. Dead when you have, banana one
of my favorite examples is the banana that's sitting on
the countertop in your kitchen. Today is it alive or?
Speaker 5: Dead what do you think about human?
Speaker 2: Life when is?
Speaker 9: That what is?
Speaker 5: Human tell me about?
Speaker 2: Human but you have? Bana this is.
Speaker 1: Alive this is funny because this is their text email
exchange where they have this conversation about whether the banana is,
alive and then they're, like, okay but is it?
Speaker 2: Conscious it's just, goofy that bananas. Breathing it's on Your
you say it's, Impossible, Jeffrey, no is the banana? Conscious
all these these are, Words so you everyone's trying to
fit very complicated concepts into a very small by called
conscious or. Alive it's these don't fit in that. Way
so if you put your bana in a bag and
put another fruit in with, it the fruit ripens fast
because the banana breathes with. It that's we don't.
Speaker 1: We've we've a cidicular two. Dollars does jefs sim McAffrey
have pepperoni, nipples peppers. PEPSTEIN i don't. KNOW i haven't
looked at his nude. BODY i don't really care to
see his nude.
Speaker 2: Body understand what most of those? Things so you asked
the big, question do you talk at the? Life what
about human? Life what about?
Speaker 5: It tell me what do you, think what do you
think human life?
Speaker 2: Is it's a. Miracle it's a. Miracle and WHEN i say,
MIRACLE i can't explain, it AND i make no attempt
to explain. It at the, moment we don't know how
to think about. It and anyone it is getting another
one of The fineman. Quotes when he was talking about quantum,
physics he, said Anyone jeffrey who says they understand quantum
physics and quantum mechanics and quantum, behavior you know they.
Speaker 5: Lie let's talk about that's postnetonium. Talk talk about what's the?
Difference who found a quantum mechanics?
Speaker 1: What it's funny because even though this is new, age
he also kind of sounds like a reddit bro, too.
Right he's like a reddit enormy with a lot of
this stuff which can scrack me.
Speaker 5: Up it's called quant, mechanics Taking newtonian physics and taking
it to the next.
Speaker 2: Level it's forms a much broader. Category let's get back
to this.
Speaker 5: Desk you used. It the thing Of newton using this,
desk what Is why Can't newton's theory explain? Everything why
did sub atomic quantum mechanics or quantum physics have to
come and to, explain to explain.
Speaker 2: This, well so let's let's go right back to square.
One why is it called quantum. Physics so quanta is
a word that simply means, packet small, Amount so it's.
Quantized so we, recognized when we've recognized that this table appeers,
appears another very complicated word solid.
Speaker 9: Us it.
Speaker 2: Has it's really made up of molecules or, atoms and
atoms we've given lots of names to what some of the.
Speaker 1: Behaviors, wow this is really. Deep so we're back to
uh seventh grade level physics. Class this is.
Speaker 2: Amazing if you were in, school when you AND i
were in school in the, fifties the model was a
little center thing in the, middle and electron went around
and around. It it was seen as a ball that
went around and around.
Speaker 1: It, daniel five. Dollars did you See epstein's email to
All brecht about making grinder profiles to Blackmail american. Politicians
that's a. Joke that's a. Joke daniel is.
Speaker 2: Joking and as we start to look at to, say
well let's see what this bull looks. LIKE i want
to be able to examine that little thing called an
electron we, found uh, yeah a.
Speaker 1: Lot of dyla monkey coded references here with the bananas
and the you, know evolution and this is getting really.
Speaker 2: Deep there was nothing. There it wasn't the. Thing it
was simply a cloud OF i.
Speaker 1: Like how they're discussing things that you would literally hear
in like your introduction To philosophy, class like the first.
Day this is the stuff that comes, up like literally
an intro to, philosophy, okay WHICH i remember intro to.
PHILOSOPHY i had a great intro to philosophy. Professor he
was a human, skeptic but he was a great. Professor
and this is literally the stuff that we talked. About
it was it was, LIKE, i let's talk about. Philosophy
and he was not A jewish guy who was a,
chubby kind of alcoholic dude with a big, gut and
he would just kind of he would he would just
start to haul the chalk like this and he would
rest his hand on his gut and he would, go, yeah,
well so it's like the number seven is number? Seven a?
Speaker 6: Lie?
Speaker 1: One is?
Speaker 2: It where is? It how do we know what it?
Speaker 1: Is what any guys?
Speaker 5: Think?
Speaker 1: Right that's like day one Of Introduction philosophy in college
your first. Day and it's funny to me because like
he And bannon think they're having this like two HUNDRED
iq level conversation that no one could even barely. Understand
and it's literally what you would talk about like the
first day of philosophy.
Speaker 2: Class get that we can call an. Electron so we
already start to see mysterious things as we go into
very super small quantities quantum. Physics so quantum physics like
to go into the very small and very small.
Speaker 1: Distances, wow so quantum physics about small quantities is actually
about the physics of small. Quantities, damn this is blowing my. Mind.
Speaker 2: Ude we see things that we can't, explain just cannot
explain how much a type.
Speaker 1: We got face, lords and we got mind, lords we
got mind. Loaders but by the, way this is also
why the new atheists in his sphere were so influential
and we're so effective from the two thousands up into you,
know the death of that, stuff you, know five or
six years, ago it's dying out on. YouTube you have
the last dying gasps of it With Professor dave And
derek Myth vision and all. That like this explains why
this was so easy to pass off on. People was
because people were dumbed down and they were stupid and
being introduced to a lot of these, topics and because
people don't study, philosophy they think that this, is oh my,
gosh the Dark. Enlightenment. Dude these people are so. Smart
and then you notice anytime that they encounter anybody with
like a just a mid tier level of, philosophy they're like,
words big, Words what what logic?
Speaker 5: Is what that?
Speaker 4: Means what that?
Speaker 5: Is what that? Is what that?
Speaker 10: Mean what that?
Speaker 5: Mean?
Speaker 1: Right they go full bricing gray.
Speaker 2: Logic what that?
Speaker 5: Is what that?
Speaker 1: Mean what that?
Speaker 2: Mean and to Summarize And i'm, sorry.
Speaker 5: Let's go back to human. Life when do you think
human life?
Speaker 2: Starts it's not These so you, see this is the.
Question you're asking me to measure something, again it's. Measure
you're just you just hate making. Commitments that's Why i'm not.
Speaker 5: Married I'm i'm peeling this onion back a lair of.
Time all your bullshit and. Happytar you can't be measure
can't be measured like? That is that to say measure
makes it's a. Commitment you don't even like a commitment
when you you.
Speaker 1: Just say all your bullshit.
Speaker 5: Answer, QUESTION i know the saying, golf commit to the.
Speaker 2: SHOT i don't know what it means to be.
Speaker 5: Measured you do know what it means to be. Measured
you're one of the leading currency, traders hedge fund, guys
or stock market financial. Wizard you're the high priesthood.
Speaker 1: Hyphen you're in the high priesthood of high. Finance interesting
commentary there From bannon H, and by the, Way, no
the fact that he's in finance has absolutely no connection
at all with the ability for him to measure things
in physics or in. Philosophy so it's like so many
people think that one being, fluid, fluent and proficient in
one discourse or one domain makes them experts in. Everything
it's such a weird. Phenomenon you certainly know how to.
Speaker 5: Measure that's why you're. Beginner any other answer besides that
is totally complete, bullshit and you know.
Speaker 2: IT i know very few.
Speaker 5: Things you know things to be. Measured you measure every.
Day you weigh and measure every. Day you wiy and measure,
People you ay and measure, Leaders you measure, Ecdomies you
way to measure, politics very way. Measure you hang on
your hang on your whole life in, fact is.
Speaker 2: Measuring that's so what you've now done is a great.
Thing is you've used the word, measure a mathematic term
in the common of, vernacular and abused it SO i
don't even recognize what it. Means it's so.
Speaker 1: Abusive ooh, damn he just called out and then for
a word concept, fallacy, Damn Jeff stein on the.
Speaker 2: Rack he on the right track now she he.
Speaker 1: Just went full category, air full grammatical word concept there
On BANNON o my.
Speaker 5: Field, well and let's go in mathematics what that means
and measure means what?
Speaker 2: Specifically that's it's no specific it's a an approximation or
give it's giving something a. Number IF I einstein's not
asking you to go to the, ninth that's my point
that we didn't say that. Before now you're not going
to the. Night even IF i say, measure how tall are?
You you'd, say you say six f it six foot
one inch to give her take. Six look's fight between
five eleven and six? Feet but what's? That BUT i
want so the question IS i want to ask You
ZENO'S i Got zeno's. PARADOX i don't even know what
it means to measure you was.
Speaker 1: In my, gosh this is so retarded that NOW i see.
Why NOW i see why people were calling this all sued, ship,
right BECAUSE i thought we're gonna have something interesting with
The leibniz. Stuff it wasn't even about liive. Notes it's
like two seconds About leibnitz and then, uh thirty minutes
of word concept fallacies and just, yeah Apping, sudery which,
participant Which hunt? Participant two? Dollars did you Read francis
of the? FILTH i don't know what that. Is high
On jack five. Dollars Is Jeff stein still dead or
is he dead or? Alive is it a case Of SCHRODINGER'S.
Pdf we don't. KNOW i, Mean i've not seen evidence
showing necessarily that he's, alive but xfiltration is.
Speaker 2: Possible.
Speaker 1: Uh BUT i also think that makes a lot of
sense that you would offer, somebody uh who's a middle management.
Speaker 2: FIXER i mean measuring the top of your, hair the
top of your, skull which and the finer the.
Speaker 5: More you're, getting that's you're being. Rabbinical this is like.
Speaker 1: Base oh he called him, out rabbinical Base duebanon So.
Speaker 5: Baze isn't, That what isn't that going through the tour
where you're, where, you're, you're, you're you're parsing every every every,
definition however we broadly define measure your life literally is about,
measurement is it?
Speaker 2: Not it's about putting numbers on.
Speaker 1: Things by the, way that both SuDS and actual academics
do the same. Thing so sometimes this is hard to parse,
out especially if you're a non intelligent. PERSON a non
intelligent person can't tell the difference between A sued and
an actual scholar or, academic because both of them will,
say depends on what you, Mean, well you know, what
depends on what you? Mean what do you mean by your?
Soul what do you mean by?
Speaker 9: That?
Speaker 2: Well fuck you.
Speaker 1: Know so both SuDS and actual scholars will do, this
BUT i think in the case of, SuDS they do
it to be kind of playing, games to not actually
give you a clear answers.
Speaker 2: To what they're referring, to so THAT i can try
that you can call it whatever you.
Speaker 5: Like that what makes you feel better to your scientific?
Speaker 2: Inquiry, no even a number of people don't a number
as a. Complication when did you?
Speaker 5: Come when did you come to? This and flight why
did you come to? This aha moment was when it
was in when it was in your solitary confinement with
the biggest FINANCIAL.
Speaker 1: Crst somebody said, This nick, said this is a practice.
Interview that could be. True that maybe that's why we've
only got the first two. Hours but supposedly this is
like many many. HOURS i don't know if that's the.
Case but didn't ban and do Several BUT i think
this was supposed to like Rebrand epstein as a. PHILANTHROPIST
i think was what some of the emails or something.
Said punch made what's? Up punch made you want to? Mute,
okay good, job you just waited for, nothing. Homeboy jefferfilt,
ollergy it would be interesting to Hear simpstein AND jf
talk about consciousness and bananas and quantum. Loops, well you,
know that's a great parallel because they kind of DIDN'T.
JF jf got money From epstein for some sort of research.
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THAT i don't know what does that. Mean keevan reused two.
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One this is supposed to be spy. Music this is
sounding more like dirty. Movies the sayings sounded like spa.
Music sounds like old Dirty let's get some spy music
here we.
Speaker 5: Go uh.
Speaker 1: Okay keevan hies five dollars About. Kirol the videos out,
there they take out of context what he actually said
about war between. Brothers it's a terrible. Reality oh, Okay,
YEAH i figure there was something out of. Context WELL
i have To i'll have to find like the full
clip or. Whatever all, right let's finish The jeff's.
Speaker 5: Sein in world history was going on in your seven
by NINE jsl with your metal bed and you and
your two brushes because you were trustee with the brown
uniform mons trustees spelled? Wrong is that the moment of
clarity that you had about science And newtonian physics and
everything that we can measure is really not going to
be the way we go for. It it's going to
be some, more much more Es speaking.
Speaker 1: Of, dawa by the, WAY i thought it was pretty funny.
That did you guys notice That jake The muslim metaphysician
made a video saying THAT dawa has basically. Failed all
The dawa people in their whole thing is bike collapsed
and it's it really didn't. Work it's funny to see
The muslims owning each other over. That that's correcting me, out.
Speaker 5: Terrek emotional? Intelligence thing is Your was that your? Moment?
Speaker 2: ATTORNEY i wish it, was would make such a great
story for this, interview but it's. Not it's the fact
DID i need such a privileged life to come?
Speaker 5: Across so when did you it didnt? Happen then when
did it already happen?
Speaker 2: BEFORE i was going to hope we get to The
i'm in the priposed position to have some of the
world's smartest people come to my house and tell me
what they think about different, subjects AND i finally realized
that the thing that they had most in common was
there was this this. Area no matter how smart they,
were that WHEN i asked him the, questions they, said
they'd have to resort to a five hundred or a
thousand year old response to that, question which WAS i don't, Know,
oh really.
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i wonder WHAT i wonder if that commonality between
all of these new atheists and new. Dorks was something?
Else jack ten? Dollars is this a is it this
a practice? Interview? Bannon is media training him for a
sixteen minutes? Interview? OH i didn't know, that but, yeah
if that's the, case that does make a lot of
sense because they were talking about like rebranding him or you,
know making him into a. Philanthropist put all of just
two dollars the atheist comments under your recent tag video
or super retarded. Arrogant all they say is that you
never say to the. Argument, well that's they don't. Understand
there's different types of. Arguments everybody thinks that there's only
one kind of, argument which is the crackers in the pantry,
fallacy which we've covered one hundred thousand times.
Speaker 5: Over you know who who else found that?
Speaker 2: Out It's.
Speaker 5: Socrates that's What socrates kept, doing, Right socrates kept asking
all the.
Speaker 1: Experts oh, wow, Dude jeffin mcgeffery is just a. Philosopher,
Dude he's just a, philo. Bro he's just Like. Socrates,
Man he's just like asking the, deep penetrating questions about
reality and. Life that's. All that's all he's. Doing and
he's a great dude deep, down just asking hard. Questions,
man what's the meaning of? Life? Bro where DO i
put the peep in the poo?
Speaker 5: Poo?
Speaker 1: Bro that's all he's.
Speaker 5: Doing he would go, through you, know question after question after,
question and realize at the end they didn't really. Know
they really didn't basically understand what they were talking.
Speaker 2: About and one of the things that people won't. Enjoy
it turns out that potentially one of the bad things
to teach children is how to. Write say it's in
point with?
Speaker 1: What so we got full common. Core Jeff stane is
a like go he's. GOING i never thought he would
go Full obama common.
Speaker 5: Core.
Speaker 2: Writing, reading arithmetic was supposed to be everyone supposed tough.
It but writing forces you into a very narrow channel of.
Thinking you have to write a certain in a certain,
form a certain, way in a certain linear. Pattern so you're,
thinking you become somewhat. Narrow the most. Interest the REASON
i brought up writing is one of the recent discoveries of,
mind which Respect. Socrates play Those aristotle because they never wrote,
anything they, spoke and people around who could write Wrote
socrates could.
Speaker 5: Think so that's that Was jesus Of nazruth was the same, way,
right never wrote.
Speaker 2: ANYTHING i thought he was a. Carpenter he was a
carpenter and then' he need like little coppmenters to.
Speaker 5: NIGHT i want to Get Lazi lisa's written. Record one last.
Thing thank you for having me to your. House let's go,
back let's go. Vest when did when did that the
beginning of? That was there any one aha moment and
all these great thinkers did happened for two thousand and?
Eight was it after that came? Up OVER i know many,
Years but when did you actually, realize, hey, something something
new has got to be? Developed, yeah that's?
Speaker 1: Great is?
Speaker 2: That because, Again i'm privileged enough to have people around
me who've given lots of philanthropic gifts to institutions of higher.
Speaker 1: Learning and WHEN i, said oh, wow that's so, sweet
everybody was just so giving and there's so much charity
and philanthropy and is you know what better cover for
Blow feld level crime villains than international? Charity?
Speaker 2: Right the impact have you? Judge how do you judge
the impact of your giving? Thing and we sat down and, said, no,
really new ideas have come out AND i realized that
of course it hasn't come out because we've been looking
at using science and mathematics and it's the wrong.
Speaker 5: Tool it's obvious institutions that are set up and try
to put forward knowledge and understanding and. Truth should they
take your.
Speaker 2: Money Derek bock At harvard said taking money for good
causes is a good.
Speaker 5: Thing so If, hitler If hitler took all the gold
of the teeth of The jews and SAID i want
to give this To Heidelberg university to fund the leading
it's chairs so THAT i can study high energy, Physics
Derek bark would say that was.
Speaker 2: Fine, again it's these questions of questions where good people
on both, sides like You, charlottesville could. DIFFER i DON'T
i don't know the, Answer so.
Speaker 5: Tell, us tell us to give us the two, answers
the one answer why it shouldn't, be and then the
one answer For Derek box, Says i'll take essentially take
cash from anybody BECAUSE i got so many, projects so
many good. Guys in this, Way i'll do it So
i'm indifferent to where the cash. Comes with money's, money
and IF i got good, Guys i'm the. Producer he,
says these are good. People this is a good. Research,
Okay i'll take the cash from, however from any, sources including.
You what's the other ARGUMENT i let me give you
THAT i know in my, case is your money dirty?
Speaker 2: Money if you live it might just ask a.
Speaker 5: Questions your money dirty?
Speaker 2: Money, no it's not.
Speaker 1: So in, fact, okay it's not. Dirty it's all. Clean
it's all above. Board we're very moral around. Here snail,
snigglebees jay you don't Understand jaye is filling the gigantic
clown shoes That steve is putting in front of. Him
Peter bimess two, Dollars jeffrey epsteonage until wilds five dollars a.
Day where Did epstein get his money? From just the? Island? Uh,
well if you Read Whitney webb's, book she's got two
or three chapters where she puts forth various theories as
to where he might have gotten money or been a money.
Manager BUT i don't know that anybody knows one percent for.
Sure it's kind of theorized unless somebody has sort of
dug through the files and found something explaining exactly what
was going on in terms of money.
Speaker 2: Management why is it not dirty money BECAUSE i earned it?
Speaker 5: Hot but you earned. It went back to this before
you earned. It you earned it advising the worst people
in the, world right that do enormous bad. Things, uh
and just to make more.
Speaker 2: Money so instead of asking me the, question should you
take the? Money BECAUSE i think it's a legitimate. Question
if you think it's a.
Speaker 1: Legitimate, ah when he got, pinned he's about to do.
It what about he's about to do a two quoke
way yes.
Speaker 2: In the watch BECAUSE i think ABOUT i think that you.
Have ethics is always a complicated. Subject BUT i can
tell you that with the MONEY i gave to help
try to eradicate polio In, Okay so Like.
Speaker 1: Bill, gates he's a philanthropist eugenicist to help eradicate Polio
pakistan In.
Speaker 2: India instead of asking me whether that money was should
be given to these children for, VACCINES i think you
might want to ask their mothers who received.
Speaker 1: Them, oh, now where have we seen this line of? Argumentation?
Oh Sam? Harris oh you want to question? Atheism what
about that child that's crying right, now that was bombed
by a? Terrorist what about? That what about this emotional? Appeal,
so when asked what do you think ethically about providing
financial services for the worst people in the. World he
does the two, Quoteue, well how about you tell me
about the mothers whose children were saved BY i, mean
this is so silly.
Speaker 2: The vaccine who know that child now won't get? Polio
and ask them IF ee should have helped these?
Speaker 1: People, yeah immediate virtue, signaling which is a huge uh red.
Speaker 2: Flag if we want if.
Speaker 5: We want in a fast you're a you're a. Mathematician
we walked into that clinic where they're giving that money
out to these people that are the most distrates of
poverty and, sickness and told them that the money was
coming from a what are?
Speaker 2: You class?
Speaker 5: Three sexual?
Speaker 2: Predator tier?
Speaker 5: One what's Your? Tier one's the highest and? Worst, know the,
lowest the. Lowest you're the Lost kate tier? One you're the.
Lowest what a criminal is that the money came?
Speaker 4: To?
Speaker 5: Then what what percentage of people do you? ESTIMATE i
understand you only probably those do you? Estimate would SAY
i don't, CARE i want the money for my.
Speaker 2: CHILDREN i would, say everyone SAID i want the money
for my.
Speaker 5: Children did they know where the money came?
Speaker 9: From?
Speaker 2: IFF i think if you told them ABOUT i call
them the devil hundredercent the devil, themself the devil.
Speaker 1: M k me x five. Dollars did you see the
notes from the cell? Speculation they read like what is
needed to escape and get? OUT i don't. KNOW i
just don't know how much you'll put into you, know
cellmate testimony and that kind of stuff is very kind
of suspicious.
Speaker 2: Stuff, Said i'm going to exchange some dollars because you told's.
Speaker 5: Life do you think you're the devil? Themself?
Speaker 2: No, no BUT i do have a good.
Speaker 5: Mirror it's a serious. Question, sorry do you think you're
the devil?
Speaker 2: SELF i, know why would you say?
Speaker 5: That because you have all the. Attributure you're incredibly. Smart
you remember the devil. Is somebody knows what the devil's.
Brilliant you Read Milton's you Read Milton's Paradise.
Speaker 2: Loss, no the devil scares.
Speaker 5: Me satan. Is satan is the is the he is
the he is at the number one or two. Archangel
and the reason he goes To hell and leaves the
rebellion is because he can't be the top. Guy and
his thing Is i'd Rather i'd rather reign in hell
than serve in.
Speaker 2: HEAVEN i saw that in a movie once Called American.
DOMA i don't remember who said. It, okay we have
to go called the What?
Speaker 1: American?
Speaker 9: What what do you?
Speaker 2: Say what was the?
Speaker 1: Movie i'm over here trying to Get epstein movie. Recommendations,
now what's? That y'all Saw epstein's playlist. Too when somebody found,
that like his iPod play it was a such a
weird ask, me is that you wouldn't? Expect? So what
was the?
Speaker 5: Movie serious? Question do you think you're the devil's?
Speaker 2: SELF i don't know why would you say?
Speaker 5: That because you have all the, attributure you're incredibly. Smart
you remember the devil. Is somebody knows what The Devil's
you Read, Milton's you Read Milton's Paradise.
Speaker 2: Lost the devil scares.
Speaker 5: Me satan, Is satan, is the is the he is
the he is at the number one or, Two and
the reason he goes To hell and leaves the rebellion
is because he can't be the top. Guy and his
thing Is i'd Rather i'd rather reign in hell than
serve in.
Speaker 2: HEAVEN i saw that in a movie once Called The American.
DOMA i don't Even.
Speaker 1: American. Dharma that's. Weird what is that we over here Getting.
Epstein he's gone Full ciskel And ebert over. Here it's
It's epstein And ebert over, Here ciskel And, Epstein american.
Dharma oh is this he was making a dumb joke
because that's a bandon movie movie About, Bannon Errol morris's
documentary About. Bannon it's Certain bannon as. Qualities, Okay, ANYWAY
i thought that was gonna be some kind of actually interesting.
Movie but that doesn't look that. Interesting there was another
super chat. Here what do you estimate HIS iq? IS
i don't, KNOW i would GET i, mean if you're
being serious on A wexler, scale he's probably one twenty,
one twenty five, MAYBE i don't. Know what do you guys?
Think all? Right, uh we went full on all. Night
thank you. Guys everybody have a good.
Speaker 4: Night mm hmm