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Speaker 1: Work ethic. So let's take that into account the next

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time you are tempted to say it's not my fault

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that I'm in this situation. Everything sucks and it's everybody

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else's fault in it. No, Yeah, things are bad, but

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there's always been corrupt people and things have been bad.

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So that's not an excuse for sloth, and it's not

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an excuse to try to circumvent righteous ways of operating.

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Seventy reasons, five dollars. I'm looking to start my journey

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into orthodox I was Baptist, raised Baptist help our Brimstone,

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saw a lot of hypocrisy, and it turned me off

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of religion. Thirty five years later, your debates and your

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content are opening my eyes. Thank you. Well, I'm glad

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to hear that. And yeah, I don't blame you. I

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think a lot of people kind of, especially if you

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grew up in the fundamentalist type stuff as I did,

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you kind of have a phase where you're like, Nah,

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this is stupid, and then usually you kind of, you know,

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gradually make your way back to more sensible historic versions

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of the religion. Tara Michael two dollars. Do you experience

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cognitive dissonance. I'm sure everybody does right, because ultimately we're

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all fallen, and so we all don't want to be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong.

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So I'm sure that there are things that I don't

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know about that I haven't even noticed that I have

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cognitive dissonance about. But I would imagine that's true for everybody.

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I think nobody in this life is going to be

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completely free from traits that characterize the fallen state. Crash,

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filmsen dollars day, blessings to you. You are a great

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influence in my twenty two year old life. I'm a

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cad I mean Catechists at a Greek parish. All right,

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why are you ro Corp? I think roqu War has

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done better being faithful to the Orthodox tradition. Generally speaking.

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Greek Orthodox or anything. I'm not saying that at all.

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Just for example, you know, Rokor had the nineteen eighty

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two or three statement, for example, condemning acumenism. And while

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anti ecumenist, the hierarchy typically is pro acumenists, so I

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think that there's reasons like that, and also beyond any

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of the theology stuff, I just ended up vibing really

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well with my priest. We have a great relationship. He's

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been a very awesome person in my life. Have a

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lot of respect for him, and everybody that meets him

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also feels the same way, and a lot of people

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respect for the Vladimir, So I don't have anything bad

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to say about any of that. He's an amazing person,

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loving very dearly. Bill Brown ten dollars. Where can I

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get Jay Dyer subject matter list of books? It was

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on the website, but I took it down because it

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was all jumbled up and the code was all crap.

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So just you could look at my channel, the global

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Elite books that we cover, or top fifteen Orthodox Books,

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top fifteen books to read before you die. Those are

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good places to start, but you know, there's not really

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one master list. I think if you read, if you

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get the Red Book, my read book, in the back

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of the Red Book, there's a reading list, So you

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can go to my website and in the shop get

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the Red Book. American squid Word two dollars. What business

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advice would you give to your twenty year old self

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stack bitquin even though bigcoin didn't exists, but still Faradine

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Karno five dollars honor your father mother? Is that absolute? No?

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your father and mother if they try to undermine a

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higher authority such as God, you honor the higher authority

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over the lower. So, for example, if your father and

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mother said you must worship bail, we are your parents,

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you must honor us. You have a duty to a

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higher authority to not worship bail. What about situations of

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where it's impossible and the parents are abusive, Yes, toxic

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parents and family members. You must set boundaries. You must

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do things like gray rock all of that, especially if

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they're narcissistic. But you also have to be careful to realize,

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my parents actually being abusive? And if they are being abusive,

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they're not God. Cayden fifty dollars. Hey, can we get

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some of that Copenhagen mint so that you can develop

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strength to take atheists sisties behind the woodshed. I think

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when I was in like sixth grade, because everybody in Tennessee,

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all the country boys, all the rednecks, everybody dips right,

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and I immediately puked. Ironically, when I had a zen,

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which is pretty good. Ta's like juicy fruit.

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ton of samples of ELP stuff. And I don't use

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nicotine normally, but the really lotos ones, if I just

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Speaker 1: Also, I think that they've been pretty good in, you know,

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finding people like I'm assuming that's what Rachel's getting at,

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like maybe to be a sponsor or something like that,

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because I know that when Dasha got canceled, they reached

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out and said, hey, we would sponsor you for getting

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canceled and so forth. So, uh, maybe maybe I could

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reach out to alp for that. All right, we're done

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with proverbs, so let's get back over to Jeff slim

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mc effree or we'll never finish this because we're making

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pretty good Progresser, Jeff, what have you been up to?

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We forgot about you? Sorry man, sorry dog? What's you

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think of? Jeff? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 2: Things as a machine and unfortunately so if your car breaks,

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cars were always easy to fix, My jets, my cars.

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it simply follows the same pattern. If this part breaks,

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you replace the plot and the thing works again. People

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and the financial system are not machines. They can't be

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fixed the same way. You can simply take out the butt,

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put some more juice into the commercial paper market, and

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that's like replacing the oator on the car. It's much more.

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can't see this, looks bleeding at the same time, what

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do I do? First? I have to think about it

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as a system. Where's the most logical place, what's the

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most dangerous place? If your heart stop, we have to

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start your heart again. If in the equivalent to the

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money market, why do I have to start your heart again?

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you're dead. If liquidity, which is the equivalent of blood

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in the financial system, dries up and.

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Speaker 5: Once like liquid is basically cash, putting cash until.

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Speaker 2: He gets that's what it is, Okay. Liquidity is liquidity.

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the economy to keep it flowing. And if you're especially

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shirt dirty, you know, some damaged. Pump in that blood,

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Speaker 5: Hort you talk to to the person in treasure on

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Speaker 2: No, you can't, it's impossible to be on top of things.

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There's no such thing. It's again the doctor watching the

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it before. He recognizes that there's some steps he has

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about what shoes he has on. So you hope that

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Speaker 2: They had pretty good judgment and you needed a lot

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of luck. Just like in the dead patient. You need

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to hopefully you put that blad in and it's not

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too late, and you maybe you make some mistakes, but

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thousand and eight, I guess you weren't occupied with finance

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that whole summer. How long had you been in jail?

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Speaker 1: So our good buddy Banana up the butt. One of

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the fattest super chatters over your shout out to him.

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He's always given these big fat daddy wore bucks super jess.

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He says, for one hundred dollars, Jay. The genius Epstein

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stuff is legend. It's legend building. Yes, this is a

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great point in intelligence operations and intelligence cover. You build

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a legend which is your backstory, and it needs to

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to make it plausible to other people that, oh, you

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you know, Bill Barr's Oss Front School. Yeah, so okay,

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you're you're a good dude. His system building stuff, or

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we covered on my channel. That curious document. I think

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global architecture. It was discovered I think in a NSA

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copy machine years ago. It reads like a real white

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high level. We did a talk on the silent weapons

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paper maybe four years ago on the Channel, and it does.

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does sound like the type of analysis that Jeff Stein

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stuff exactly exactly. Rank Corporation, of course has a lot

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of mathematicians and tech level people, including neo conservatives and

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Jewish Trotskyite neo conservatives like Volstetter Herman Kahn, all of

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and usually set destruction rational choice theory. All that comes

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out of the Rank Corporation. And by the way, we've

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of Reason. It's one of the global elite texts. Allergya

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drove me crazy, and we did a mini documentary on

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RAND that I put on Twitter the other day. Of course,

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this's got no views. Nobody cares about this. It's the

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real information. So allow me to fresh your memory. RAND

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is another one of the top think tanks that has

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engineered modern America. Kubrick doctor Strangelov in Dark Secrets of

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the Rain Corporation. Of course doctor Strangelov is satirizing the

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Rain Corporation. And there's that. And by the way, I

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We will be doing our interview finally, and we will

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to only talk film, which is understandable if I was

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Sean Stone or Vivian Kubrick or whoever else, they're probably

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sick of talking about Oliver Stone or Stanley Kubrick movies.

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films that she described as anti tyranny films, and so

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she said, can you suggest some, and just sort of

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what I might have said, snow Piercer. I just listed

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a few suggestions. So now, Viva Vendetta is a little

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anti establishment, but it's also kind of a siah because

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that's like Handmaiden's Tail level bullshit. It's like, who really

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why is your brand of apologetics perfectly mirror Giazimov's doctrine

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for using spiritual moral values to destabilize a target population

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to trust and their trust and their own national institutions.

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So he's he's referring to the Russian doctrine of operations,

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which is active measures and their policy of calling out

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corruption in other countries. So, because Russia is a smaller

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geopolitical operator in comparison to the rest of the Atlantisis establishment,

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they opted for a strategy of calling out corruption and

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focusing on real stories.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, in other words, if you look at art, for example,

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years has been focused on conspiracy topics, things that are

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focused on elite corruption I'm talking about now. A lot

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of that is leftists too. By the way, but as

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an Orthodox Christian, I am not beholden to or affirming

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Giasmov's doctrine I don't go. I've never been to Russia.

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impression that although I have been invited to Russia three times,

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I've not gone to Russia. And as I said, Orthodox

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the KGB NAM KVD. So if we read this article

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here you get an overview. And by the way, I'm

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not affirming everything that this guy says. This guy ended

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up being I think he's been defrocked. But his article

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detailing the history of Cold War stuff and the Russian Church,

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if people want the actual history, it's called between two thieves,

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the KGB, the restaurants, Rock Church and the CIA. This

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is a good history of the nuances of this period.

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with people who are experts in the Cold War operations

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and the KGB. So if you go back to my

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Metropolitan Jonah interview, we have a history of the KGB

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and the Russian Church here, so you can check this

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out from a historical perspective anyway, So this is a

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person who I think is been indoctrinated into the Western

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approach to psychological warfare and indoctrination. And he's assuming then

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that if I attend a Russian Orthodox Church, which by

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the way, does not agree with everything that Putin does,

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Rocorp is not one percent on board with Putin. They

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will argue that because rocor went back into communion with Putin,

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that we're run by Putin. All of that is Neocon

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Pentagon strategy. So my question to you would be, why

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are you spouting the Neocon Pentagon strategy? And no, if

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I call out my government, that is me being a patriot.

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That is not me being a Russian stooge. So you're

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actually just undermining your own argumentation by saying that if

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I call out government corruption, that makes me a Russian agent. Dude,

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that's like Neocon gaslighting. One on one, So you explain

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to me why I should follow neoconservative doctrine and neo

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conservative war mongering. R rusa Free Reign Jay in the

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two thousand and one Dennis Bush now, PhD. There's a

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NASA presentation. Yes, we've covered this presentation because Burmas did

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a whole talk on it was really good. I read

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the presentation. It was deleted in twenty sixteen. You can

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still find it though, if you go to Burmas's lectures

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on it. It gets into like nanotech and all that stuff.

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I memes five dollars. Do you think this is being

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released to make us realize that we are helpless? No,

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I don't think so, Tuxedo. If the economy is biological

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as bitcoin steroids, more so life's than steroids. Jim bob

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Any advice on how to read more and longer. Get

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used to audio podcasts. If you, for example, have a

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long drive to work, makes that a time when you

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listen to books. I mean, audiobooks are not as good

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as reading and taking notes, but it can come close,

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and it's the next best thing. And if you work

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a job where you're having to do a lot of

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you know, activity type stuff, if you can try to,

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you know, try to listen By the way, one last

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note on the Russian doctrine of foreign operations. We did

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an interview with Dugan ten years ago. You can listen

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to the interview and multiple times over. After the interview,

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I gave my critique of Dugan's perennialism and the gnostic

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elements in his philosophy. So you can play the game

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of trying to read into my motives, which is interest

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because the first part of your comment says, if you

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are really after the truth, well, there's nothing more lame

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to try to argue than people's motives, because you can

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never prove or disprove motives unless you have some text

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or comment where I say to say, hahaha, I secretly

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have bad motives, but they will never know. Like outside

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of that, you can never prove or disprove anyone's motives.

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So to just bring that up is like the lowest

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tier of debate and it's more like gaslighting. Beck evangelist

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ten dollars. I want to apologize for what I said

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to you and how I acted on X a while back.

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I was ignorant and spite and I'm ashamed of myself

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for what I said to you. God bless you. And

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keep doing your work. Well, hey, I appreciate that Beck Evangelis.

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Not a lot of people reach out to apologize. This

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week should be nothing but apologies. But I didn't expect it,

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So that's okay. All right, let's break it up a

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little bit or evil Nico. Let's take some calls evil Nico.

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Speaker 5: On you.

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Speaker 6: You know what's up, Hi Jay, Let me go find

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the question because I have ever written down. I would

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want to know your opinion on the on Patrioch Krills.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever went over it.

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Speaker 6: But his his statement on serving for the Russian military,

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You'll be cleansing all your sins if you die in Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: I just want to know you're like your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think the ro Corps bishop said that that might

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be going a little too far. But if he actually

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said that, no, just being in the military doesn't cleanse

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your sins. But my assumption would be that there's probably

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more context to that and the Russian statement on Church

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State Relations from twenty twelve or twenty sixteen, that famous

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document that actually says no, it's there's nothing wrong with

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defending and supporting your homeland, and that is a noble

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and perhaps even a martyr's death. So in terms of

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the context of the Russian tradition, there's nothing actually wrong

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with dying for your nation or for your homeland. That's

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a Christian principle that's been exemplified for two thousand years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Jay, I knew about you know, dying

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for your homeland and protecting your people.

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Speaker 5: That's a noble cause.

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Speaker 6: But thank you for clearing it up and letting me know,

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because my friend was asking me about it and he

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wanted to know what your opinion on it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: Not listening to anybody criticizing that comment if they're from

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the Roman Catholic domain, because the popes said the exact

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same thing about the Crusades. But also, I mean, is

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that really what he said or is that just what

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Western media is saying that he said. I want to

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see the full context. So but also a problem saying

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that Carol couldn't make theological mistakes. So what But you're

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no different than the It's no different than the pope. No,

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it is different. Carol's not a pope. Carol has nothing

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like the status of a pope. The church doesn't hinge

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on him. In the Romancolic system. It does nine hundred

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foot Brigham young woman space wives. What's up? Man? I'm

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you Yah, that's okay, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 1: I got a question?

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Speaker 7: Do you think it's time to followed Larry Lorenzo's thirteen

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tips would be a bitcoin there?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, Actually he fell for the scam of like

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crypt all coins because he seems to be interested early

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on in bitcoin. And people shouldn't find this that surprising

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because he was interested in every emerging tech. I mean

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he's interested in cloning DNA, neural networks AI. Oh, I

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guess we Epstein was into AI. So if you're into AI,

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you're into Epstein. This is how stupid these people think

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he was early interested in bitcoin for sure. That's there

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are USA ten dollars. You don't expose corruption. I've been

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here for fifteen years with the same message. So I

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do expose corruption. You exploit corruption. You're not independent? Okay?

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What is your evidence that I'm not independent? You're an

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FSB agent? Okay? Are you a paid asset? Do you

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have do you have any proof of any of those things?

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So notice it's all just accusations and hearsay Byzantium Reborn.

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Where did it go. Can you do some pull washer?

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Uh not for two dollars? Come on, if you want

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me to just start doing impressions, He's got me more

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than two bucks, dude, zif three dollars, Jay, think about

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your great streams. I'm another Protestant trying to go home.

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By the way, notice this guy. We're sitting here talking

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about Epstein, the biggest global architecture scandal in the history

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of the world, and this guy's here calling me out.

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Yeah it's not Epstein and his international network of bond

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villains that's the bad guy. It's me, a YouTuber with

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not even two iner case subject. These people are just

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so ridiculous, man. They can't see the log in their

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own eye. That's what's crazy about it. Ac says, are

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you ready for some gooy ball dan Vicious? Two dollars?

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I've got some lame ass super Bowl on my second TV.

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Uh oh, he's playing both sides poorkhol all ten dollars day.

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Thank you for all the Dostievsky recommendations. I'm on the

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third book and I can't stop good. Yeah, he's great.

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Tuxedo mass five dollars, Holy crubo, did you see how

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fast that black guy ran in a circle making sure

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I'm not missing any super chats X lot step five dollars.

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I'm loving all the proverbs. I should read more cool beans. Dude, Okay,

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we're caught up on super chats. Let's get back to

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Jeff sah McCaffrey or Milon Milan. Milon Milan.

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Speaker 8: What's up, dude, Milon Milan, what's up?

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Speaker 1: I'm you? Max smiles? What's up? Max smiles? I'm mute.

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Oh interesting, that's all this, all of the people calling

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in lahati five dollars? Jay? Should orthodox start marches for accountability,

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like a march for life? I mean, I don't think

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that old school activism stuff really does much. I mean,

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you know, the people, the reason people do marches and

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whatnot was to call attention to it in the old

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days of media. So I don't know how much public

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marches actually do in the era of new media. So

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I mean, I mean, I guess you could march for

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whatever you want to, but I don't know what that

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would really. It's not gonna do much. Everybody's on the internet.

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So mister Anderson, what's up, yo? How's going? Hey?

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Speaker 7: So I was in a conversation with a it was

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someone talking about, uh, the influence of neo Marxism in

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the US, and I was taking the position that similar

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to I think, you know, I think there's some substantial

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evidence showing uh, you know, institutional involvement in things like

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the drug revolution and the sexual revolution.

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Speaker 4: And those sorts of things.

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Speaker 9: And I was bringing up people like Kinsey and maybe

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their involvement.

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Speaker 4: With Rockefellers what have you.

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Speaker 1: And I was and I was trying.

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Speaker 7: To make the point that I, you know, I think

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it's good reason to believe that things like all the

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critical theorists.

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Speaker 9: And their promotion to the front of academia and the.

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Speaker 7: Front liberation of their ideas was in some way institutionally

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motivated as well or you know, supported.

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Speaker 5: And uh anyway, I was just wondering if you had any.

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Speaker 4: Maybe like resources on that.

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Speaker 9: I know that there's information out there about how Frankfurt

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School people worked with the OSS and c A during

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World Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would look into Wilhelm Reich. Wilhelm Reich was a

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Frankfurt School guy who was a big promoter of the

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sexual Revolution. I would get Rachel's book Occult Feminism. Rachel Wilson,

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the Rockefeller's authorized biography that you see behind me has

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an entire chapter on support for feminism. Right here, This

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is the David Horowitz Official Biography of the Rockefeller's whole

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chapter on Abbey Rockefeller funding Cell sixteen and radical femme

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stuff in the nineteen sixties. She put millions of dollars

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into it. I mean there's a lot Francis Stoner, Saunders,

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Cia and letters cultural cold War. I just read a

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few chapters the other day from what's the guy's name.

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I left the book in Florida, so I don't have

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it with me, but the one on Mockingbird Operation Mockingbird

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that gets in. There's an old chapter in that on

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the Congress for Cultural Freedom. Well, also Jeffson mc effett.

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I mean, he's got his hands and everything right, Him

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and just laying are interested in four Chan, they're interested

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in uh Reddit, they're interested in Hollywood pop music. I mean,

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what does that say? All right, let's get back to

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Jeff Stein here.

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Speaker 5: Yes, before you went into jail, you were still very

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active in the financial markets.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: When you say active, you trade currencies every day, you

475
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trade stocks all day. When when people something like you

476
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or you give you give advice to people to trade

477
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stocks or trade currencies.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't trade every day. I think that's like like

479
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whaty Allen said, you can't beat the bank.

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493
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I don't really think nicotine is a I think that's

494
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an overhyped problem. I don't really think that's the issue.

495
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:49,480
I think that, in my opinion, not medical advice, but

496
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:52,279
I think cigarettes usually are full of a lot of

497
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:55,920
chemicals in the paper and the glyph essay, probably they

498
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,200
spray on it. That would be my suspicion about CIGA.

499
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,920
I haven't spoke a cigarette in ten years, eleven years,

500
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:11,839
not nine years. Maybe, but my alps are really low

501
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:19,960
three miligrim nicotines, so it's not very much little balloo

502
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,039
five dollars. Did you know about Mormon Space Relations with

503
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,240
by Donald Barr or planeted Arms. Yes, I've not read

504
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,000
the books. I don't know if they're I mean, maybe

505
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,000
you can find pds. I don't. I don't do pds.

506
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,839
But yeah, so Donald Barr of OSS fame, who brought

507
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:39,880
Epstein into probably some degree of intelligence operations early on,

508
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is the one that wrote Space Relations about international space

509
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trafficking of people. So there you go.

510
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Speaker 2: I try to pick my spots, you know. Judge Sorrows

511
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,799
picked his spot, and when the Pound collapsed, this would

512
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,599
have been a great money making opportunity that passed me

513
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:00,640
by when I was in jail. That's not how I say.

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Speaker 5: In the run up to that, in the spring of

515
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two thousand and eight, that's when Bear Stearns got in problems,

516
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I think in the spring of two thousand and eight

517
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and decided to bail it out. Did the Bear Searns.

518
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Guys talk to you for advice at that time. Then

519
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,000
the big crisis and bear Serns.

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Speaker 2: See again unbeknownst to most people. And it's easy to

521
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,480
blame people for the financial crisis, like you'd blame the

522
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someone for giving your father the drink before he had

523
00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:23,519
his heart attack. But what really happened. The real enemy

524
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,279
of the financial system was Bill Clinton. And if you

525
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asked me what and who closed the financial crisis, I

526
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,359
would tell you it was Bill.

527
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Speaker 5: Clinton because of what Bob Ruben and he did to

528
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the financial deregulate the financial system.

529
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Speaker 2: No, because as the last time we had our sixty

530
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,680
minute interview, you talked to me about home ownership and

531
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you asked me whether everyone should own a home and

532
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,039
I told you no, it's too risky.

533
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:45,599
Speaker 5: So the financial collapse of two thousand and eight is

534
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because of hard working African Americans, Hispanics and whites, who.

535
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,359
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton is the fault of it. I mean, come on, dude,

536
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,119
who actually believes that Bill Clinton was calling the shots.

537
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,960
Bill Clinton was chosen by David Rockefell under others as

538
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:08,880
they bragged Builderberg to be the Rockefeller candidate. There's actual

539
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,719
videos of that boy from tong Gat something Jay God bless,

540
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,880
what's a good platform for buying bigcoin because swan is

541
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,360
not supported in New Zealand. I don't know. You'd have

542
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,639
to ask the chat. But I don't know about New Zealand.

543
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,079
I didn't know they weren't supported there.

544
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,519
Speaker 5: Wanted to have a piece of have an ownership stake

545
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in the society that all rested on their shoulders. They're

546
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the culprits.

547
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,119
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Okay, Then I didn't say that

548
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,239
it comes I I was pretty clear with Bill Clinton, okay.

549
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,639
And why was it Bill Clinton? Because Bill Clinton wanted

550
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,199
to get votes from those people, and he sold them

551
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,400
the idea that instead of renting in a house, and

552
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:46,719
historically the values of houses has gone up, and he said,

553
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,079
you guys, in these.

554
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Speaker 1: Local communities, we're going to skip out a little bit.

555
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: I refused to lend to mister Bannon. But now he

556
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,360
has the big brother uncle. His uncles can do mathematics,

557
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,920
they can be balanced their checkbooks. So certain people in

558
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,119
Congress said, well, how do you value these prime mortgages

559
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,000
the banks that we've been valuing them the same way

560
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,000
we've always valued them for the past twenty years. The

561
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accounting firms. There is something in this country called gap accounting,

562
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which is the standard type of accounting, and we account

563
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,719
for them the same way we always accounted for them.

564
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,199
If we paid a thousand dollars for your mortgage last night,

565
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when we put it on our books today, we're going

566
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,360
to say it's values of a thousand dollars. Just makes sense.

567
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,760
I paid for it. Let what's its value? It's a

568
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thousand dollars. That's why I pay for it last night. No,

569
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,079
the congress people said, that's not really a good answer.

570
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:35,840
You know that that doesn't give us confidence that you

571
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know what you're doing. Because what happens if you have

572
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to sell it tomorrow morning? If I use there, something's

573
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happened then you have to sell it. Remembers the kind

574
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of stress tests. Would you be able to value it

575
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at what you paid for it the day before? And

576
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:50,920
wellst she says, that's not the way you can think

577
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,280
about this. This is crazy. We always value things at

578
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the course from the day before, and they change the

579
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accounting method in essence to say, not what it was

580
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worth yesterday. But if I have to sell, what would

581
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,719
it be worth? That's impossible. So what happens is every

582
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bank now has the value something that they put yesterday

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at lower than they paid.

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Speaker 1: All right, the banking yapping is really getting old. We're

585
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gonna skip out a little bit to the philosophy's section.

586
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,800
Ac don't have gold, bitcoin, money or real estate because

587
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,360
the crooks try to manipulate those things. Just don't do anything.

588
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,800
Epstein is everything. It's all Epstein, Epstein coin. Yes, put

589
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,880
all your money in jeff coin boy from Tongaku. No,

590
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:38,440
we did that. We got another one from Tory ten dollars.

591
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,320
My husband and I are always we love your work.

592
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,800
We're always watching you on the TV while I'm feeding

593
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,360
my baby who's two months. Awesome, you help guide us orthodoxy. Cool,

594
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:53,199
that's good here man. Anyways, did you see what Flintest

595
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,599
has been saying? Well again, I mean, I would like

596
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,239
to try to be a pauseive influence on Nick, if

597
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:07,119
that's possible. So I reached out to Tim and to

598
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,639
Ryan and other people who know Nick, and I said, hey, look,

599
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,599
there's an open door all the branch if Nick would

600
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,320
like to ever discuss anything, and it doesn't have to

601
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,199
be a debate because a lot of them took it

602
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,800
as overly agro ol. Why is he just run a debate,

603
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000
He just wants get some attention. Okay, fine, we don't have

604
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,880
to have a debate, we don't even have to have

605
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,840
any kind of public chat or anything. I'm not trying

606
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,440
to grift or gain tradcat followers. I don't think those

607
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:43,760
people would want to follow me anyway. So it's just

608
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,519
it's the same with Elijah Shaeffer. Like when Elijah asked

609
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,960
me about Orthodoxy and said, hey, can you put me

610
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960
in touch with Orthodox priests? I said, yeah, here's Father

611
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:59,440
Moses' number, and they had one conversation so irrationally irritable

612
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,519
ten dollars. Did you hear any of the rumors about

613
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:10,239
bitcoin content creators saying a supposed planned, deliberate drop because

614
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Trump and company wants sixty K to load up for SBR.

615
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,199
I'm not sure if that would explain the monster rebound

616
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:26,800
at sixty I mean, I listened to several crypto channels

617
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,239
explaining what they thought was going on. But you know,

618
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:39,840
it's a lot of theories, so I don't know. I

619
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,119
think one thing I saw that was a really good

620
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,960
theory was it looks like a lot of people were

621
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,920
over leveraged with betting on bitcoin and crypto, and then

622
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:58,199
when that got wiped out, that tanked everything. But then

623
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,719
some people were arguing also that there was intentional selling

624
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,559
to try to tank it down. I mean, I'm sure

625
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,599
that stuff goes on, you know, until bitcoin reaches maximum

626
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,519
velocity globally, there will still be the four year cycle.

627
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,960
Everybody should be aware of that. Stand fast, What's up? Man?

628
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Stand fast? What's up? Alfredy though, is actually platform to brainwash?

629
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:44,480
I don't think so. I mean, I think it uses

630
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480
all the same techniques of all the social media platforms

631
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,400
to keep people there. But I think if you look

632
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,559
at the EU, they're trying to shut it down. So

633
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:56,000
I don't think they'd be trying to shut it down

634
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:57,400
if it wasn't doing damage.

635
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,519
Speaker 2: Never before in twenty years that they have to do this.

636
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,320
So something they bought at a thousand, find the books

637
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,000
was a thousand is now nine hundred and ninety.

638
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 5: The bankrupcy of the drugel Burnham in ninety, emplosion of Japan,

639
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,199
huge run up in equity markets for the Internet, implosion

640
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:16,320
the Internet tw thousand, ten years later roughly, and then

641
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,760
this run up through the Iraq War and all that

642
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,280
to run up to two thousand and eight. Every ten years.

643
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,280
It seems like we're in some sort of ten years

644
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,159
before the nineteen nineties was the subject am I said,

645
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,840
like an astrologer, okay, that the Mathematican. It just seems

646
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,000
to me that's every ten years.

647
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: That's misleading. That's exactly right, because.

648
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: People, Oh, by the way, a lot of people who say,

649
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,880
in the case of like Elijah, Elijah reached out one

650
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,079
time and said, Hey, tell me an Orthodox church to

651
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:42,199
check out. This is when we were down there, uh

652
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,280
for the ten debate. He was like, what's the Orthodox

653
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,360
church I should check out? And I told him one

654
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960
of the Orthodox churches around that area of floored up.

655
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,239
And then he sent me one text asking about talking

656
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,519
to Orthodox priests, and I sent him Father and Moses,

657
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,440
no other comments, no other questions. So it's like like

658
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,440
there's an open The way I treat a lot of

659
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,440
this stuff is there's an open door if people are

660
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,719
interested and if they really want to know stuff. I

661
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,039
think people have a sense that I know some of

662
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:16,920
these areas pretty well. Like those people can easily reach out.

663
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,119
So whether it's a lied or anybody else like they

664
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,000
there's it's very easy to you know, reach out and

665
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,920
ask questions or whatever. So you know, the ball is

666
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,840
usually in other people's court if they really want to

667
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,639
have whatever kind of chat or advice or recommendations or whatever.

668
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:38,320
Kevin Bacon five dollars, what's up man, thank you so much?

669
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Six to six degrees away from you.

670
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: Would like to see patents. People like to see patents

671
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:42,920
where they are on them.

672
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: So a pattern of a financial crisis every ten years

673
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,480
is just in my mind. Yes, long term capital and

674
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:49,760
long term capital. The head be bailed out back in

675
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,639
the late nineties when everybody panicked, and that one the

676
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:53,199
big that bailout. The day would look small and it

677
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:53,360
was a.

678
00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: Five Sebastian, So I guess this is a separate day

679
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,519
because you've got a different shirt on. So maybe the

680
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:09,320
maybe Bannon was doing one hour segments. What's up Sebastian?

681
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:16,679
All right, he can't connect. Let's say, if we can

682
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,000
get away with putting Jeff Steine on double speed because

683
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,760
this is going to take forever, dude.

684
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: Dollars ords thirty BIGI dollars. Cause people business fail all

685
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,119
the time, but they launch a capital the feeder reserve steptend.

686
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Speaker 2: Say things people go bad, things go bad.

687
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Speaker 5: Well, get to Yes, the local you're correct, The audience

688
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,119
is watchings. The little guys, they go back up all

689
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,559
the time. Nobody get a sho you why they're little guy.

690
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:36,280
But when long term cap Management goes bankrupt bear Starns

691
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,199
was bankrupor nmbers Croup, people care because.

692
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: You know it's it's nunfair characterisation when you saidcau again,

693
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,280
it's complexity of the situation. If you think about the

694
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,119
you have a complex system. You have your body now.

695
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:44,880
In fact, the little guy is my finger. This this

696
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,320
is the bear Stearns is your heart, that's correct, But

697
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,920
the banking system is my heart. The system I can't

698
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,360
ris my because members that the way you haven't.

699
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 5: Been able to hang out. You haven't out.

700
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:51,679
Speaker 2: You trying to one's hang out?

701
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: Do you not? Can you jus try to do it? You

702
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,119
have it. You have it. Since we can't name another

703
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,719
guy that's as good as you, not there may be

704
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,039
a couple out there. You're not you're not bragging, You're

705
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,239
you're humble. It had to be sometime. Please tell me

706
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,920
there was some time.

707
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Jeffrey Epstein, it's very humble. Good job, Steve, Yeah,

708
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,480
very humble.

709
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 5: Before you went to jail and basically got cut off

710
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,840
fro daily information in the summer of two thousand and

711
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,119
eight that you start to get very nervous that this

712
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:17,760
complex system that something was deeply wrong.

713
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: Okay, first, when I say no one understands the system

714
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,000
better than I do, it doesn't mean I always sound like.

715
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,119
Speaker 5: Doctor, your friend's gonna get suited for given as any liability.

716
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:27,440
There's no contention the bit your fan.

717
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: But the word understand is the problem. I don't understand

718
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,199
the system. So that's I don't understand the financial so

719
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:32,639
please stop.

720
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: You cannot sit here and tell what we just went through.

721
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,800
I'll go through again. The hedge fund man so this.

722
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Is pretty interesting because he does understand it, but he's

723
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,360
also pointing out this kind of dark, irrational side to it,

724
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,159
to where it's like, you know, you don't understand, Like

725
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:50,679
I understand the financial system, but I also don't understand

726
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:52,679
it because it's a living organism that has a life

727
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:53,079
of its own.

728
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:55,679
Speaker 5: In TuS, the money managers, the central bankers, the commercial bankers,

729
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:56,880
the heads of the investment banks, the head of all

730
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,360
the trading desk, the top economists, and I'll throw into

731
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,039
business school lecture as a stander of all the top

732
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:02,920
two hundred, twud and fifty you can't name on the

733
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,400
top of your head. The guys are at least of

734
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,920
your level. You have to understand it.

735
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Someone no, sorry, we all don't understand it. No one

736
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,559
understands it. It's a mirror. That's part of the problem.

737
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,880
It's impossible to understand. That word understand simply means if

738
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,400
this happens here, that will happen there. It's predictable. Understanding

739
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,599
means it's predictable. It's not predictable. That's the problem. It's

740
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,880
very it's in complex systems. That was the fascination. Is

741
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,079
there a way to tease out some level of predictability?

742
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,159
In fact, what you asked, you would ask the question.

743
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:30,599
It is a great question, which was was it a

744
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,800
stroke or a heart attack? Now most people don't know

745
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,880
that before they were going to have a stroke, they

746
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,199
have a stroke? Did they they just have a stroke?

747
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,920
Did they understand why? In hindsight, you go back and

748
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,920
you can make lots of explanations. It might sound good,

749
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,440
and if you're talking to the working man, you're using

750
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,639
language that he'll never understand. It's complex. So he's just

751
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:46,840
like going to his doctor. He says he has a

752
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,760
gastrointestinal problem with he has diverticulitis. As opposed to saying

753
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,760
you had a stomach ache, you had bad food. People

754
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,920
don't like to say it in normal every man terms.

755
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:56,000
The system had a stroke, but we don't know why.

756
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 5: But you just okay, hard working people and there's a

757
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,960
great social benefit. Would you not agree with having people

758
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,119
having ownership in the system.

759
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: When you say ownership in the system, it doesn't mean.

760
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: Your phone too.

761
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, alright, come on, Jeff down, you fucked up

762
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,840
with this. You will get through this phone. But you

763
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,800
cannot possibly have s to sit there knowing that you

764
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,519
came from nowhere, knowing that you went to the very

765
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:21,079
top of what is considered outside of science and maybe physics.

766
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:22,880
The thing people, most of my are cause it like

767
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,440
alchemy understanding high finance, to sit there in what will

768
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,840
be the defining financial crisis of our time, like like

769
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:32,440
Black Friday and or Blacks Monday, whatever it was in

770
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,400
the Great Depression, and be there at that exact moment,

771
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,400
triggered in part by a firm that you used to

772
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,800
be a partner in it and knew intimately well, and

773
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,679
it created much of your initial net worth because of

774
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,280
and know that you couldn't someone who lives on a phone, right, Yeah,

775
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,119
cause you do live on a phone, right, right? You

776
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:49,400
had to make collect just too collect costs. You cannot

777
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,800
tell me sometime during that day you did not have

778
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,039
that conversation with yourself of how the fuck did I

779
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:55,880
do this to myself to put myself in West Palm

780
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,559
Beach and a six by nine self the metal fucking

781
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,519
bed with a brown shirt that said trustees spelled wrong.

782
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: So did I find it amazing that I was there?

783
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 5: That's not amazing. I don't want to say it was

784
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,079
not funny. Oh I thought it was like I wasn't funny, right,

785
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,719
But not amazing. It was incredible, incredible in what way

786
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,280
this trodible?

787
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: Like?

788
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 5: How do I do this to myself?

789
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: No, it's as incredible as me sitting here in this house.

790
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,000
They both just two sides of the coin. But send

791
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:18,119
drop and the things, all the sand Stuarts running down

792
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,280
the hills. That's the way I see the financial moment.

793
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,679
Speaker 5: You funded Santa Fe in the early nineties.

794
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: Or late eighties.

795
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: I believe it was early nineties.

796
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,079
Speaker 5: I can get backy, but early nineties Santa Fe was

797
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,280
funded for the study of complexity theory.

798
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,599
Speaker 2: We said he would a method. So let's let's back up.

799
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,320
So why did I buy a ranch in the Mexico

800
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,400
nineteen ninety three, So that's usually some sense I would

801
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,320
have funded it. In nineteen ninety Los Alamos, which was

802
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,800
the high energy lab up in New Mexico, was losing

803
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,119
all its scientists.

804
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 5: And A says the most it was were Oppenheimer and

805
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,679
where the where a lot of the nuclear weapons furn

806
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,639
the bomb. That's what the Manhattan Project, Manhattan Project was,

807
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,679
that's Los Alamos. And you watched your property out in

808
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:50,719
Mexico to been near that, yes.

809
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:52,199
Speaker 2: Because the scientists were going to be They cut the

810
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,079
funding for high energy physics, but the people who worked

811
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:56,760
in loss almost would still be in the Santa Fe area.

812
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,039
Speaker 5: They cut that because the end of the this was

813
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:59,800
the Cold War dividend, right love of it.

814
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: Were talking about the beef turkey email or something that

815
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:04,440
one's new that one just popped up today. I haven't

816
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,400
seen that yet, and people are speculating that that is code.

817
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,159
Do we have any reasonable confirmation? I mean, I could

818
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,599
obviously have no problem seeing that, like maybe they I

819
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:20,239
mean Jamie and are watching Hannibal, the TV show, and

820
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,079
it coincides very interestingly with what we're talking about here.

821
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,360
You know, is the pizza also code for something else?

822
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,320
I mean, I think the pizza is code known you know,

823
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,880
FBI stuff for underage things.

824
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,119
Speaker 6: Uh?

825
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,559
Speaker 1: Is it C A N N I B A L stuff?

826
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:41,800
Nothing would surprise me. But do we have, you know,

827
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,000
anything pointing at that beyond? I mean, I'm not trying

828
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,159
to defend Jeff something, but maybe does he maybe just

829
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,360
mean a beef jerkey? I don't know, Like I haven't

830
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,079
even seen the beef turkey email. So let's let's listen

831
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,719
to Jeff and we'll see what that says.

832
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly why it was, because again people

833
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,039
thought there was the physics and high energy for it.

834
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:00,559
Really wasn't that.

835
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 5: Inportant because that was about nucinal weapons.

836
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:03,679
Speaker 2: No, it was because they were trying to they decided

837
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,000
it was maybe not right. This was the same time

838
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,800
that Murray Gelmont came up with the term quawk qu

839
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:10,639
ar k. He picked it out of an old poem,

840
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,519
the work Walk. But it was something it was mysterious,

841
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,800
So they were starting to understand In the nineties that

842
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,360
in our world of the physical world, there was things

843
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,119
that were just unexplainable. They called it strange things. You

844
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:22,119
gave it a name, you gave it some characteristics, you

845
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:23,639
called it had charm. It was one of the turn

846
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:25,000
and had a charm, and had a flavor, it had

847
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,920
a color. But nobody really, no one, mister Bennan, understood

848
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,719
what it was, just like the financial system, and you

849
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,639
wanted to investigate that.

850
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:37,119
Speaker 1: So the email, somebody's saying that jerky comes up three

851
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:45,280
hundred and eighty times jerky recipes. Francis has time to

852
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,599
come over tomorrow Jerky class. I will bring a taste

853
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:53,000
of his new jerky recipe. He's working at a restaurant

854
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:56,519
called Cannibal Cooks. Okay, so that's why people are thrown

855
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:06,800
in the cannibal part. I've been eating beef turkey a

856
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:13,039
round a mile, really into beef turkey for a diet

857
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:19,400
six out portion of jerky six eight ounce. I mean,

858
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,840
I think we need more than that. It could be

859
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:27,519
people are saying, nobody talks like this about beef jerkey.

860
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:36,920
Let's see the best latest batch. I mean, my dad

861
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:46,519
makes beef jerkey and he talks about batches and I

862
00:49:46,519 --> 00:50:01,559
don't know, I mean, and Gold reacts to it. They

863
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:04,880
found they think a human code. Again, we need to

864
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,480
see I think we needed we need to see more

865
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:10,760
than just beef jerky to figure out you know what

866
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,519
I mean, like and I'm not saying it's not there.

867
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,280
I'm just saying this, this one is one I just

868
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:20,320
saw today, so uh yeah, I mean, you know, when

869
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,480
we were watching Hannibale, one of my questions was like,

870
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,679
I thought, this gives you pryons, right, I mean, perhaps

871
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,039
they know some way to do the meat where it doesn't,

872
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:35,920
but it would be it would be funny if we're

873
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:43,039
over here watching Hannibal and uh, you know, Jeff Stein

874
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:50,280
is is into that. I don't know, anybody see any

875
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,760
substantial uh information or vindication on that or is it

876
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:01,119
just hearsay or reading the chat? I make possum jerky

877
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:10,400
sounds good. There was also an exchange where they mentioned

878
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,719
the jerky had a lab. Oh interesting, that's weird. Pepper

879
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,840
profit five dollars, great job, great work. Did you see

880
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,199
Jim Bob and that idiot Dave got Well, yeah, we

881
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,480
covered that. The first part of the stream, that was

882
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:32,639
the first two hours was the atheist nonsense, Sam fifty

883
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,960
ten dollars. What's your theory on Je being alive? I

884
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,079
don't know that yet. We have not. I mean, I

885
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:41,920
think those initial pictures were AI. It is possible to

886
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:46,400
exfiltrate someone, so but we need to see some kind

887
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,480
of some kind of good evidence for that. But man,

888
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,559
I'm over here watching Mad's Michelson and I'm like, damn, dude,

889
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,159
is these bros really eating bros out here? Is these

890
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:02,320
wiggas really eating wigas out here?

891
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,199
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if we could build tools so

892
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,920
others smarter than we could help investigate it.

893
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,199
Speaker 5: And that was the beginning of the sconceipt of the

894
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:12,679
Santa Fanastity. Yes, and Santa Fantasity was founded to do

895
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,119
study in this type.

896
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,039
Speaker 2: Of can these areas of strange things be described by

897
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:19,320
some form of mathematics?

898
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm trying to get at, the foundational thought,

899
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,920
the organizing principle.

900
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: So he's talking about working at the Santa fantas To

901
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,039
which you said earlier, was about systems analysis at of

902
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,559
our high level and figuring out how to study and

903
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,679
predict large scale systems like global economics and could it

904
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,280
be predicted is what he's talking.

905
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:41,119
Speaker 5: About of Santa fe In the High Physics Lab at

906
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,639
at Los Alamos, which had created been the headquarters of Manhattan,

907
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:46,400
and the Trinity Project right the bomb. Yes, so you're

908
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,639
talking about the the elite, the High Priest of Physics

909
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:50,800
of physics, Yes, sir, which High Priests of Physics some

910
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,400
subset of that is also mathematic system.

911
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,519
Speaker 2: Yes, they both have similar project at.

912
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: The High Priest of Physics. Interesting terminology again suggesting that

913
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,320
mainline normy physics, scientism, et cetera, as we said at

914
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,920
the very beginning of this discussion, is a top down enterprise.

915
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,920
Hence why all of the top New atheists were all

916
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,440
so close to Jeff sent McAffrey flying on the plane.

917
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,159
You guys remember Brave New World, which we did a

918
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,840
recent review. So I did a talk on Brave New

919
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,880
World ten years ago, and I pointed out the chapter

920
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:31,519
where Mostapha Mond says to John the savage you understand

921
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:34,599
that the physics and the science that we do is

922
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:40,239
not what we give to the dumb public. Right, Why

923
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,639
would Huxley put that in there? Well, because the same

924
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,239
thing then is what's going on now there is a

925
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:53,079
reddit Normy Physics that's given to the dumb down cattle.

926
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:59,559
And then there's a separate secret metaphysics that they believe

927
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,840
that they're in. They may be wrong, they'd be off.

928
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:08,920
That seems to be more akin to neoplatonism, perennialism, cobbalism,

929
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:11,719
et cetera. So here is I think where he begins

930
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,679
to talk about reality as math itself, in other words,

931
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880
like we live in a simulation, or the reality is

932
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,639
a code, the matrix, this kind of stuff.

933
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 5: One of the tools you want to do is to

934
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,360
make sure that in this complex system, the finance system.

935
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,760
I'm doing a lot this for Philanthroy and for the

936
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,880
good the man of kind, but also to be able

937
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,159
to understand this complex system, the most complex outside of

938
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:31,480
maybe our body of the financial world. Yes, did they

939
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:35,320
create tools. We were you smarter in than the mid

940
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,079
odds fifteen years later than you had been then because

941
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:39,039
of work it was done at Santa Fe.

942
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: No, it was great, but in fact most of the money.

943
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,599
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, for those saying that there's nothing

944
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,079
to all this blah blah blah, which is totally idiotic.

945
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:55,480
Another high level political person, Norway's ambassador, suddenly stepped down.

946
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:59,119
She's named thirty three times in the Epstein Falls Mona Jule.

947
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,159
So so funny to see people stepping down over fake emails,

948
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:18,000
ding bat. What's up dude? Now? On this Kabbala part? Yes,

949
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:22,360
I have lengthy talks on what Kabbala is medieval Jewish

950
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,159
mysticism from actual scholarly sources like Gersham Sholin on my channel.

951
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:28,639
You can find those in the archives. But I also

952
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:32,519
did a recent introduction to what Kabbala is with our

953
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,880
good buddy Jake Ridlesnake, and Jake invited me on this

954
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,840
week as well to do a discussion on his channel

955
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:44,480
of the Jeff Stin McCaffrey Information. So let me because

956
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:47,400
I recently re shared that. Let me find that on here.

957
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,000
What's up, dude?

958
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm you.

959
00:55:58,039 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 6: Hey, j.

960
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 9: Is that earlier when you were talking to that guy

961
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,639
that was calling you sued and you had that very

962
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:07,440
interesting I don't know if you could call it a debate.

963
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 4: Why was he calling you, Jason?

964
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:14,079
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, it's like.

965
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 4: I've been watching you for you.

966
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: It could have been a joke. He could have been joking,

967
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,599
like because I always make the joke of like when

968
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:24,760
people are debating and they just start saying my name,

969
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,559
So maybe he thought it would be funny to just

970
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,800
say my full name instead of oh yeah, I don't know.

971
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 9: Do you have a serious question though? The I've been

972
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:38,559
watching you, both you and Nick for years, and I

973
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:42,000
like both of you, your your contents, and this what

974
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:44,480
I wanted to talk to you about was the his

975
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:50,440
downplaying of the pedo stuff, or or rather it is

976
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,239
the narrative control that Israel is putting.

977
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 4: Out with their best books.

978
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,559
Speaker 9: People on Twitter about knicks downplaying of the pedo stuff,

979
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:03,320
and Nick counter to that being that what he's actually

980
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,079
trying to do is he's trying to overemphasize the the

981
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:12,119
Jewish fixer narrative because you don't have to, you don't

982
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:13,480
have to expose.

983
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:14,199
Speaker 4: What's already obvious.

984
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 9: And so it doesn't make any sense to just keep

985
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,000
talking over and over about the pedo stuff. It really

986
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,079
doesn't make sense to just continue to re litigate the

987
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:23,239
pedo stuff over and over.

988
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:33,639
Speaker 1: So you're saying that's that's the fuller context for his statements. Hello, Hello,

989
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:37,159
You're saying that's the fuller context for his statements, and

990
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:39,639
then people are taking like that he said that the

991
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:42,880
Calariy Church, for example, allows what fifteen year olds. I

992
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,320
think in some countries is that what you're saying, what

993
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,639
I'm trying.

994
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: To say is that I.

995
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 9: Enjoy the I enjoy his content for the flavor, Yes,

996
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,880
but when he goes out, he does go off the.

997
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,559
Speaker 4: Rear was a little bit.

998
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:04,559
Speaker 9: He is young, he is you know, sometimes a little uh,

999
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:06,119
sometimes a little.

1000
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,559
Speaker 4: Weird, and he says a lot of things that are.

1001
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:13,159
Speaker 9: You know, out there, But this specific thing that he

1002
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,639
said does make sense to me that you don't have

1003
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:19,159
to expose with already in the light. We all already

1004
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:22,440
know the obvious. You know, he enjoyed the company of

1005
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,880
young girls. We get it, and he and he did

1006
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,559
that for other people. But that was what he's trying

1007
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:29,920
to overemphasize is that it was a means to an

1008
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:33,440
end as a Jewish fixer, and that a lot of

1009
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,199
it is like, oh, he's just a Satanic pedo, is

1010
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,440
narrative control by Israel, and he wants to over emphasize

1011
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,159
the Jewish fixer thing to push away the obvious because

1012
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:45,559
we don't need to relitigate it.

1013
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's I definitely agree that the real crux pivot

1014
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:58,719
thing is the international compromise fixer element. So that's the

1015
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,800
most important. And I'm not down playing the abuse of people,

1016
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,519
but the abuse in the number of the people is

1017
00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:11,760
smaller than the number of people destroyed by thirty years

1018
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,719
of financial markets, war, chaos, all the things that he's

1019
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,679
got his hand in. That's way more damaging than And

1020
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:23,000
I'm not trying to be callous, but like, if that's

1021
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:25,119
what you're saying, or what he's saying, and then yeah,

1022
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:29,639
I understand perhaps how you might try to frame that.

1023
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,639
I wouldn't have argued, but I mean, he's Catholic, so

1024
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:36,159
maybe he thinks there's a point to arguing the fifteen

1025
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:39,679
year old age limit thing or something in Catholic countries.

1026
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:46,199
But I think it's I think it all matters. And yeah,

1027
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,440
that's why there's always an open door. Is like I

1028
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,559
think I could, you know, have insights on some of

1029
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:53,280
these things.

1030
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,239
Speaker 9: I would enjoy a competition between you guys. It reminds

1031
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,440
me of his perspective, reminds me of when people bag

1032
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,039
a politician to like condemn something as racist.

1033
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: It's like, what is what is obviously bad.

1034
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 9: And already in the light, does not need to be relitigated,

1035
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,719
It doesn't need to be condemned. What we need to

1036
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:15,599
be talking about is what people are clearly ignoring for

1037
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:16,679
narrative purposes.

1038
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that that's the narrative on X has

1039
01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:25,599
gone in that direction. I usually focus and try to

1040
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:28,440
talk at a normy level to a lot of noormies,

1041
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,679
you know what I mean. So I'm always trying to

1042
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:34,360
convince people like, look, here's you know, the Rothschild's in

1043
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,079
their biography saying yeah, we gained the stock market two

1044
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:40,679
hundred years ago, hahaha, raging about it, you know what

1045
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,079
I mean. So I'm always trying to focus on that

1046
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:47,840
bigger narrative because a lot of people still don't even

1047
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,880
know that this stuff is real, Like they don't know

1048
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:55,519
that underage espionage stuff is real.

1049
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: So I'm the only Orthodox in my family.

1050
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 9: Entire family is Protestant, and recently my mom has been messaging.

1051
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 4: Me like, hey, what's up with Israel?

1052
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 9: And I'm like, I don't want to throw everything I

1053
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,199
know at her immediately because I don't want to scare her.

1054
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 4: So I'm like very.

1055
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,639
Speaker 9: Slowly asking her questions, do you think Israel?

1056
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly That's exactly the way to talk about these

1057
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,559
types of topics. To Boomers.

1058
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: Exactly right, I asked questions.

1059
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,719
Speaker 9: I don't I'm not throwing everything I know about Epstein's connection.

1060
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,079
Speaker 4: I'm asking her questions. And it just.

1061
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:37,199
Speaker 9: Clearly, clearly the Boomers and the Normies are getting wind

1062
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:40,239
of this, and they are slowly realizing, Okay, there is

1063
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,800
an ethnic component to it, and we need to be

1064
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,920
able to talk about it openly and freely, or we

1065
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,519
don't have free speech in this country.

1066
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: We don't.

1067
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is true, and it's nice. Thank you

1068
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,159
for that calling back. It's nice to be able to

1069
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:58,760
at least have some conversations now that couldn't be had,

1070
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:03,239
you know, if you years ago. So as we get

1071
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:07,360
into the perhaps kabbalistic element of it, I'm not exactly

1072
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,880
sure where we're going at this point in the discussion,

1073
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,480
but I know it eventually kind of gets there. If

1074
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,239
you're looking for a kind of a basic overview of

1075
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,320
how these ideas ended up influencing people like Leibniz, who

1076
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:23,480
Epstein will begin to talk about, as well as other

1077
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:28,920
hermeticists like Hegel, you will find this introductory discussion here

1078
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:34,079
with Jake Rattlesnake perhaps useful as we get into the

1079
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:39,679
overview of what kabbala is. A lot of people don't

1080
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:42,320
know what that is. They don't understand Medieval Jewish myssicism

1081
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,880
is also based on a lot of neoplatonic ideas, as

1082
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,119
well as some Hebrew textual ideas out of Ezekiel and

1083
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:52,400
other passages, chariot, magic, et cetera.

1084
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: Most of my philanthropy in the area of can you

1085
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,440
describe things that appear to be unexplainable by mathematics and

1086
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,039
can you fund people who have new ideas? And unfortunately,

1087
01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:10,360
when someone thinks they've been able to there's a man

1088
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,480
Stuart Kaufman, when they think they okay, I figured out

1089
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,800
how to be able to predict the unpredictable, what appears

1090
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,159
to other people to be unpredictable. But my system in

1091
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:19,920
those days it's called genetic algorithms, can predict what things

1092
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,480
will happen. Then they all want to make money, so

1093
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,639
they use their systems to try to figure out They

1094
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:25,400
know they have figured out the way to make money

1095
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,639
because they figure out the unexplainable, they try, they go

1096
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:30,800
bankrupt and we start again. So with a cold view,

1097
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:34,000
what I've come to realize is that the attempt to mathematize,

1098
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:37,159
formulaize or what in your prior work to understand what

1099
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,320
really is in today's world still unexplainable, is impossible the miracles.

1100
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,039
Speaker 5: Your first head of Santa Fe was crystal.

1101
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: That's interesting. So he thinks of the global monetary system

1102
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:59,599
and the chaotic organism that is the global financial system

1103
01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:06,400
as a mathematical thing that's alive. It almost sounds like gamatria.

1104
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,440
So there's probably a Gamatria element. And let's not mince

1105
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:15,239
words here. Some of that Gamatria stuff is just ripped

1106
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:19,599
off of Pythagoras, right. Pythagoras was a number magic believer.

1107
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:23,360
He thought that numbers were mystical, magical things. That's a

1108
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:28,000
big part of Platonism and Neoplatonism, and that element as

1109
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:31,480
well as when you know the Hebrew text, for example,

1110
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,519
used the first several Hebrew letters as their numerical text.

1111
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:38,800
That's where you get gamatria. It's the same with the Greeks.

1112
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,800
The Greeks, for example, used first in letters as their numerals,

1113
01:04:43,519 --> 01:04:46,920
So that principle itself is not necessarily some kind of

1114
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,960
crazy nonsense. And even within scripture there are elements of gamatria.

1115
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,320
For example, when John uses six' sixty six to stand for.

1116
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Nero that's an example of. It, now idiots on The

1117
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,079
internet think that Gam atria is some magical code that

1118
01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:05,000
they can tap into to predict all of, reality and

1119
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:09,079
that kind of seems like the direction That Jeff stein

1120
01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:10,840
is going. Into he wants to figure out if there's

1121
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,760
a way to study and map out the organism of

1122
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,280
the living mathematics that is global, finance which is odd

1123
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:23,079
but makes perfect sense if you kind of know about

1124
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:27,719
some of The gamatria and kabbalistic. Ideas For Langdon langdon

1125
01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:28,000
from from.

1126
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 5: Us murry gil Was Marmi gilman was a.

1127
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: Funder he was he was the.

1128
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,199
Speaker 5: Rock, yes he was the. Rock he was A Nobel prize, winner, yes,

1129
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,880
yes and a wonderful. Guy he came out and helped

1130
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,119
us with The vice for two. Project he came With Chris.

1131
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:39,159
Landon Chris landon was the opera of the day.

1132
01:05:39,159 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: Today chris was doing artificial. Life murray tried to lead

1133
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,159
his own artificial.

1134
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: Life.

1135
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,159
Speaker 5: Yes When chris came To vice for too for the

1136
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:47,760
for the first big conference we had nineteen ninety, four

1137
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,000
he was one of the most impressive guys there among

1138
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,360
all the worlds of Lade q, gardens Though Lawrence livermore

1139
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,960
lab The lambs Of, sandia you, know all the all

1140
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,719
the major, Universities Lamont, dherty all the Big earth absorbatoris.

1141
01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:00,480
Whisold what Set langdon? APART i, thought and the REASON

1142
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,760
i Invited Santa fe to be part of it Was

1143
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,519
langdon actually made a presentation that everything and he's making

1144
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:05,960
this a, scientists a lot of marine, biologists a lot

1145
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,519
of people they're just beginning Whilely broker and people who

1146
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:09,280
are just beginning the study of climate change at that

1147
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,159
time called global. Warming that he made this compelling presentation

1148
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:15,079
that everything's really. Mathematics it's all just back to, math

1149
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,199
and you have to all these experiments you, do you're.

1150
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:19,199
Not one of the reasons are not considered by The

1151
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,960
High priest and physics as being real experiments is that

1152
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,719
they don't have a mathematical basis to, it and everything

1153
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:25,880
has a mathematical basis to. It Lang it seemed like

1154
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,760
a radical. Visionary what happened to that?

1155
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,639
Speaker 1: Concept, YEAH i don't think it's something About Chris. LANGEN

1156
01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:36,280
i don't know who he. Said it sounds like he Said,

1157
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,800
langan BUT i don't think it's That Chris. LANGEN i

1158
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,239
think IT'S i would assume somebody, different BUT i could be.

1159
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,400
Wrong it sounds like he's talking about somebody working IN,

1160
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,519
ai AND i don't know If Chris langen worked in

1161
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:57,559
A ai or. Not, yeah so irrationally irritable ten, Dollars,

1162
01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:03,639
no we do? That excuse? Me sam became a. Member what's?

1163
01:07:03,719 --> 01:07:06,679
Speaker 2: Up you go back three hundred and fifty, Years so

1164
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,159
you Have Isaac, newton you Have leibnitz from move, forward

1165
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:13,199
you have think people Like heisenberg And, goodell girl, Eh

1166
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:16,559
and what every one of those mathematicians and philosophers came

1167
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:19,880
to understand is that this is something with this numbers

1168
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,039
can describe certain, things approximate certain, things but in fact

1169
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,039
trying to put measurements and numbers on other things that

1170
01:07:27,079 --> 01:07:31,159
are really unexplainable is. Folly it's so the three hundred

1171
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:34,320
years ago they said that unexplainable realm Was. God and

1172
01:07:34,679 --> 01:07:38,079
the people who, attempted in fact to explain the, unexplainable who, said,

1173
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:41,320
YES i understand the unexplainable With. Charlatans they were the,

1174
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,119
occults they were the, astrologers they were the con. Men alchemist, yes,

1175
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,599
well now alchemist was in, fact they believed that there

1176
01:07:47,639 --> 01:07:49,760
was a way to transmute one metal into. Another in,

1177
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,239
fact they always wanted to see they can create. Gold

1178
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,960
there's no, reason if you think about, it they recognized

1179
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,159
that one metal is different than another metal because there

1180
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:58,480
has some additional pieces to, it as additional neutrons of

1181
01:07:58,519 --> 01:08:01,840
protons or. Electrons so because they thought it was a.

1182
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,119
Machine if they believed it was a, machine IF i

1183
01:08:04,119 --> 01:08:05,960
can take five protons and add, five that gives me,

1184
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,880
TEN i should be able to get. Gold they move

1185
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,960
everything around inside these. Systems the molecules transmute one molecule into.

1186
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,760
Another and if this Molecule i've transmuted it into is,

1187
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,039
Gold i'm a rich. Man it's back to. Money but

1188
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:20,880
this something strange. Happens Isaac newton, says this is really.

1189
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,359
Weird IF i want to push a ball on the,

1190
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:25,159
TABLE i have to touch. IT i could have MAYBE

1191
01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:26,560
i have to blow on, it BUT i actually have

1192
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,560
to push one side of the ball or the book

1193
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,880
to move that. Side i'm pushing. Here and obviously this

1194
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,079
thing is what appears to us the humans to be.

1195
01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:36,239
Solid so it moves is one. Thing but the only

1196
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,520
way to get something to move was to touch it or

1197
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,840
put a force against. It, okay it seems to make.

1198
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,560
Sense everybody has that. Experience AND i want to lift the,

1199
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,039
GLASS i lift. It IF i want to push a,

1200
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:45,039
BALL i push. It If i'm want to pull a,

1201
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:47,920
BALL i pull. It but he recognized when the ball

1202
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,119
fell off the table fell off the, table it went

1203
01:08:51,159 --> 01:08:53,479
in a different. Direction how's that? Passed when nobody pushed

1204
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,479
the ball? Down and he, says this is. Crazy why

1205
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,840
did the ball go? DOWN i didn't push. IT i

1206
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,399
just let it. Go so someone's pushing the ball BECAUSE

1207
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,079
i know THAT i am confident that the only thing

1208
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:05,720
that gets something to move is with a force that.

1209
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,319
Pushes so there's a force that's pushing the ball. Down in,

1210
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:11,640
fact he never called it. Gravity he.

1211
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: Measured i'm assuming he's going to go From newtonian physics

1212
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,159
to quantum, physics and this is how he's gonna get

1213
01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:18,880
into the mystical.

1214
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,159
Speaker 2: Stuff how fast it was, Pulled but never was able

1215
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:24,840
to explain why it, Happened how is? It what is?

1216
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,560
Gravity it's this everybody, says, well why did the ball

1217
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,960
fall to the, Ground cause gravity took? It but what's?

1218
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,439
Gravity that's As feineman would say that's the name of the.

1219
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Thing we have no idea what it. Is this goes

1220
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,159
To Santa. Fe they were trying to put explain the.

1221
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:39,159
Unexplainable can we measure can we figure out a way

1222
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:42,239
to predict the stock markets using these types of chaos?

1223
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:43,359
Complexity forget, that let'sash.

1224
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 5: Backs let's le's go back To newton Pre, newton and

1225
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,800
then what Did newton? Solve that for millennia up To

1226
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,399
newton had not been. Solved NOW i want to go

1227
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,600
forward all the way To Santa. Fe what they were

1228
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,800
trying to. Solve let's say with just two or three

1229
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,680
the basic. Guys but let's go With. Newton what Pre

1230
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,920
newton it? Was? What and then why Is newton such

1231
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,680
a genius and such a in THE i think mathematically

1232
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,399
they told me one, Time i've seen there'sen one hundred

1233
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:05,359
and fifteen billion people roughly that have lived on The.

1234
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:07,560
Earth and of that hundred fifteen, million, nay.

1235
01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: You show this, number that sounds a lot of very.

1236
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,439
High we only have seven ER.

1237
01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:11,359
Speaker 5: I think in the history of The. EARTH i think

1238
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,840
I'll i'll pull the staft. FORET i think's one hundred

1239
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,239
fifteen million. People they figured that's probably.

1240
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 2: Inflation that's why you have lived through the have lifted on.

1241
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,399
Speaker 5: Earth but he's on the handful of the most Important

1242
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,239
what did he solve? For why is he so important

1243
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:23,479
for how we live? Today and then we want to

1244
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,399
go through, Lead nits and the other thirty three of

1245
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:26,199
the major whence to get.

1246
01:10:26,079 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: Us The santa Fe it's it's a long.

1247
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 5: Journey this is the heart of this is the heart

1248
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,159
of what we're trying to.

1249
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: Do let me take a bit of a detwisting. Second

1250
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:33,920
what if you if you went to high school and

1251
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:36,760
the last year in your high school you took. Calculus

1252
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:39,680
So Isaac newton sort of invents, calculus but that sounds.

1253
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,399
Events you, know mathematicians, torture torture seniors in high school

1254
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:44,319
before the. Graduate, yes but obviously, no yes, dances yes

1255
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:47,079
said certain people can't can never do? Calculus why why is?

1256
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:49,359
Speaker 5: It why is? Calculus? So why is that the dividing

1257
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:52,000
line between you, know to, me people who could handle

1258
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,920
that and can go on to do certain things and

1259
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,680
people just hit the wall even if they know. Math

1260
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,239
it seems to me that there's that calculus is the

1261
01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:02,319
thing that changes that cos it's a about the theory of.

1262
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,199
Speaker 1: Change Du Well, bannon let him answer the. Questions bannon's

1263
01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:07,359
getting annoying.

1264
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,319
Speaker 5: Here as in the theory of how things, change it's

1265
01:11:09,359 --> 01:11:09,600
a great.

1266
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: Question but in, fact what calculus does is it's somewhat.

1267
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,199
Philosophical that's why mathematics is. Is you, know they used

1268
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:16,760
to Be newton wasn't a. Mathematician he was called the.

1269
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,800
Geometr that's what they used to call. Themselves they understood

1270
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:24,800
geometry and. Numbers but there's an old conundrum where it

1271
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,520
says if and During pythagoras Days zeno's, paradox it's called

1272
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,399
where they, said, well IF i take if the wall

1273
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:31,960
is two feet away from, me AND i take one

1274
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,720
step that's halfway to the, wall that'll be one foot.

1275
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,319
Away and IF i take another step that's half, again

1276
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:37,840
there'll be half a foot, away then a quarter of a.

1277
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,119
FOOT i could work, forever but never touch the. Wall

1278
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,239
doesn't sound, realist doesn't make any sense in our real

1279
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,079
lives of the. Physical but What newton understood as many.

1280
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:49,199
Problems we like that many things approached the, wall or

1281
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:52,800
in his, calculus approached the limit but never really reached.

1282
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,880
It so he, said it's, okay you don't have to reach.

1283
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,560
It we can do lots of the mathematics as if

1284
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,520
it was so, close it was almost, there and we

1285
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,359
could do a lots of mathematics almost being at the.

1286
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:04,520
Limit and this is really, Important, steve for today because

1287
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,439
most of the science up until, today.

1288
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,359
Speaker 1: Who's that walking? Around is that just lane walking around the,

1289
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:12,560
Background so somebody's peeping around.

1290
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,520
Speaker 2: Was things that are starting to approach the. Limit you

1291
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,159
were taught in high school that if you had one

1292
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:23,279
divided by, Zero if you remember your high school, algebra

1293
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:24,840
you were, told what's the answer to?

1294
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: That come, on, dude let's get to the.

1295
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,119
Speaker 2: Point one divided by zero don't know if you were

1296
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:30,800
in high, school it's, like stay away from it's the.

1297
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,640
Boogeyman you could write it down as it's. Undefined it's

1298
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,439
not able to be determined that there's a bunch of.

1299
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,359
Things but in, fact one divided by zero is a

1300
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:42,800
strange things. Happen it's a world of the. Strange And

1301
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:45,720
i'll explain to you after is that when you get

1302
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,239
one divided by, zero you get into. World we don't

1303
01:12:47,239 --> 01:12:49,560
know what. Happens the answerest it's Not oh.

1304
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:52,359
Speaker 1: Shit, dude somebody said that Was candace astral projecting into

1305
01:12:52,399 --> 01:12:56,319
the video Damn and by the, way If Charlie chorleye

1306
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:01,000
had that time, tech there's no reason And candas couldn't

1307
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:05,279
go back in time and astral project into The bannon. Interview,

1308
01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:06,279
dude that's what that was.

1309
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: Explainable we can give. It we can call it things like.

1310
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,920
Undetermined what we can give have a convention to say

1311
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,840
it's IT'S, X y or. Z but in real life

1312
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,199
we don't know what happens when you are actually at the.

1313
01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:18,920
Limit so that's An newton for the same. Concept is

1314
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,920
that the limits Where philip god you got close To,

1315
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,479
god but you can never Be. God he had this

1316
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,760
sort of religious. Interpretation, OKAY i want to go back To.

1317
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 5: Newton why Is newton such a big dividing line in mankind's?

1318
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,520
History what is it About? Newton what is about anybody

1319
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,239
trying to solve what did they not know? Beforehand and

1320
01:13:31,239 --> 01:13:32,840
what we live to an?

1321
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: Agree doesn't everybody know this from like like first, love

1322
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,800
like your first physics class in. College why do we

1323
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,720
need A i know people want to Question newton and

1324
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,359
they want to you, know people believe in quantum. PHYSICS

1325
01:13:49,359 --> 01:13:51,920
i know all That i'm just, like this is A

1326
01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:55,920
it's just bizarre that we went from corruption and high

1327
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:03,319
finance To bannon wanting an introductory course On newtonian physics

1328
01:14:03,319 --> 01:14:06,960
of cost and. Effects it's just Weird newtonian.

1329
01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:10,079
Speaker 5: Universe ALTHOUGH i realized later some sub particle atomic, physics

1330
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:11,560
but at least for a, while it was. Neetonia so

1331
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,319
what's the? Divide why is he so? Important why is

1332
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:16,399
he inflection point in mankind's movement from the swamp to the.

1333
01:14:16,399 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Stars that's a great, question because stars were by. Kep

1334
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:21,680
What newton starts to allow us to do is to make,

1335
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,159
prediction accurate. Predictions remember that we've got talked about that with,

1336
01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:28,319
Money about the things in our physical. World how, cars

1337
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,600
he didn't have cars, that how horse carriages, moved how,

1338
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,119
things how boweling balls, Moved how pool cues and pool excuse,

1339
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:35,760
me pool table. Balls wouldn't try.

1340
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 5: To solve that Before Newton mayklitis or you, Know Platinus

1341
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,159
phathagoras that had these great he knew, again.

1342
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,199
Speaker 2: But it was all. Numbers this was a system of

1343
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:47,199
things in the physical. World And patagora, says we can

1344
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:49,439
start putting numbers on things that help you predict how

1345
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,399
they will behave you can add two triangles and make

1346
01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:55,720
a square some different. Shapes they're looking at gaymetric. Forms newton, says,

1347
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,439
WELL i want to know how planets. MOVE i want

1348
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,399
to know how things around me. Move can we find?

1349
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,279
Formulas CAN i find formulas that explain WHAT i see

1350
01:15:03,279 --> 01:15:06,640
in the physical, world how physical things, interact and how

1351
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,960
they describe one. Another, again the fact that two, things

1352
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,000
two solid, masses for some very, strange unknown, reason unknown,

1353
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,560
today attract one another no matter what they. Are people

1354
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,319
have seen the. Experiment you hang of, something two little

1355
01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:21,279
metal balls from a, string they move towards each. Other

1356
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,840
in fact they moved towards each. Other was a Very.

1357
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah there's different theories about Whether libnis discovered calculus Or,

1358
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,239
newton or did they actually independently both discover. Calculus it's

1359
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:33,800
an interesting, point but very.

1360
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,520
Speaker 2: Specific so when you drop the ball to the floor

1361
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,479
of this, Room newton, says in fact the room came

1362
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,159
up a bit to meet the. Ball the room. Moved

1363
01:15:43,159 --> 01:15:45,159
it's in. Percept they can't really perceive that. Motion but

1364
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:47,640
they attracted each other with certain. Ratio so he started

1365
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,760
to be able to measure things in the physical world

1366
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,119
and that was great. Advances it also now you wanted

1367
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:56,159
to move very. Quickly, unfortunately most, people especially in the

1368
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,920
twentieth century nineteenth, century seeing, well Like, newton let's measure,

1369
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,000
everything let's measure people's, behavior let's measure their, psychology let's

1370
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,800
measure their, health you go to the we can Have so.

1371
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: This is like, quantification, right the idea that everything could be.

1372
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,720
Quantified and, uh now we Know bannon has an interest

1373
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,960
in perennialism and uh you, know the traditionalist so called.

1374
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,399
School So bannon has read Evil law and presumably free

1375
01:16:20,399 --> 01:16:24,199
thof shoe on And. Gannon so this seems to be

1376
01:16:24,279 --> 01:16:28,039
verging into the uh you, know rain of quantity From,

1377
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,000
gannon that kind of stuff.

1378
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,359
Speaker 2: Like, this let's measure, everything measure their voting has, measure, measure.

1379
01:16:33,359 --> 01:16:35,000
Measure can we put a number on how MUCH i

1380
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,199
care for my? Wife CAN i put a number on

1381
01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:41,399
HOW i? Feel and we, Tried, unfortunately we not try

1382
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,159
to mathematize it's called quantification minor things in life and

1383
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:48,479
then recognize that there's things that unfortunate fortunately just fall

1384
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,680
outside everyone, Shorting, yeah.

1385
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: That's a great. Point normanis think this is genius, talk,

1386
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,720
Right so like basic this is Even, like isn't this

1387
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,399
like eighth grade? Physics people think eighth grade's physics class

1388
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:04,039
talk is.

1389
01:17:04,079 --> 01:17:07,079
Speaker 10: Like, wow this is like this is like High braine.

1390
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: Stuff, wow high. Stuff Oh i'm terrible at. MATH i

1391
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,199
don't remember any of that maths, shit but LIKE i

1392
01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:18,560
know this, stuff LIKE i remember a lot of. This like,

1393
01:17:19,039 --> 01:17:22,439
whoa this isn't even this is? What, yeah this is

1394
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:27,239
why noormies will fall for like the most ridiculous. Word

1395
01:17:27,359 --> 01:17:28,840
Solid right wrote a.

1396
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: Very famousok about why his. Life he was trying to

1397
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,640
figure out a. Way can't he describe the difference formulaically

1398
01:17:35,319 --> 01:17:37,119
between things that are alive and things that are dead, Answers,

1399
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:39,600
no the things that are alive in my world are,

1400
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,279
miracles not. Magic magics has a bad. Connotation you don't

1401
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:44,800
believe in the spirit or the. Soul that's what animates.

1402
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:45,640
People is your spirit your?

1403
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 5: Soul no. One but have you ever seen someone? Die

1404
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,199
when they, die their spirit, Leaves the soul leaves no.

1405
01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:51,079
Question so when there's no question to, you no, question

1406
01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:53,199
there's no question to you that there is some animating

1407
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,439
life force within us that leaves when you're.

1408
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: Dead, Yes in, FACT i refer to the. Soul there's

1409
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,600
obviously a certain the questions in.

1410
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 5: The past would normally think you were. Soulless so have

1411
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,239
you just know to have you talk about you actually

1412
01:18:04,279 --> 01:18:06,560
believe in it and have done some thinking About it's

1413
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:07,680
pretty shocking in its own, Right in't?

1414
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: It well again? Mathematics Leibnitz And leibnitz, THOUGHT i, Said.

1415
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,079
Speaker 5: No newton was At cambridge and he was ahead of

1416
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:16,439
Math departmight he's, professor but likeness who would likeness A german? Professor?

1417
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 2: Yes but What leibnitz said is the soul is so

1418
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,239
strange Because god took, chemicals which is simply the material like,

1419
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:26,640
tables and he somehow made this material able to have a.

1420
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,600
Thought how strange is that not only does it have a,

1421
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,399
soul but this some way it was put, together that

1422
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,279
this material substance is able to. Think so when you

1423
01:18:36,319 --> 01:18:38,279
say to, me it's obvious to everyone that this is

1424
01:18:38,279 --> 01:18:40,359
such a thing as a. Soul, now if you're part

1425
01:18:40,399 --> 01:18:42,680
of The, charlatanville you'll try to explain it to. People

1426
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,600
the SOUL i describe as the dark matter of the.

1427
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,119
Brain is it dark matter because in high energy?

1428
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: Physics wait a, Minute, jeff let's still a little pre

1429
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:56,399
supping Of Jeff sain mcceff for, here religion and con

1430
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,439
artists are the ones that try to explain the. Soul

1431
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,079
by the, way here's my explanation of the. Soul so

1432
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:05,920
are you admitting a con?

1433
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,079
Speaker 2: Artist nowadays you hear in terms of dark, matter doc energy, again.

1434
01:19:10,199 --> 01:19:12,640
Terminology it's, complicated termine why is it doc? Matics we

1435
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,319
can't see it as. Well what do you mean you

1436
01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:17,439
can't see? It, well somehow we see something moving towards

1437
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,880
this area of darkness. SOMETHING i can see this. Thing

1438
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,520
this appears to me to be, empty it's just, black

1439
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,640
BUT i see it being drawn this. Way SO i, said,

1440
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,880
WELL i know if this were, matter that would follow that.

1441
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,039
Equation if this was, solid it would explain the way

1442
01:19:31,079 --> 01:19:31,560
this particle.

1443
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: Moves, Yeah i'm not detecting high levels of genius. Here

1444
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:42,199
i'm detecting like basic familiarity with basic. Ideas that's so

1445
01:19:42,279 --> 01:19:46,560
far What i'm detecting. Here, SO i, MEAN i guess

1446
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,159
what he said about live notes is kind of. True

1447
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:51,239
BUT i mean you could read A wikipedia entry and

1448
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:52,079
kind of get that much of.

1449
01:19:52,119 --> 01:19:55,079
Speaker 2: It BUT i can't see anything, here So i'll just

1450
01:19:55,079 --> 01:19:57,520
call it dark. MATTER i don't know what it, is

1451
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,520
but it behaves as if there was something. There the

1452
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,359
soul is obvious to everyone that there's something different between

1453
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:04,880
things that are alive and things that are not. Alive

1454
01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:07,159
but we have no idea what it. Is it's currently.

1455
01:20:07,239 --> 01:20:10,600
UNEXPLAINABLE i believe we need an entirely different system of

1456
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:11,960
analysis to try to figure.

1457
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: Out but now With, newton you, know, uh so, interesting

1458
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:22,760
so we get he is talking about sort of mystical ideas.

1459
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,119
Here so are we going to get full. Cobbalism let's

1460
01:20:25,119 --> 01:20:25,600
see where we.

1461
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 5: Go it's all his alchemic, study chemical studies and things

1462
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,840
you've worked on the spiritual side leadnits that just talked

1463
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,640
about the Soul schroeder. Talk it was like if a

1464
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,000
modern scientist or someone that you funded AT mit At

1465
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,640
harvard in one of these things talk in those types of,

1466
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,439
terms they would be considered to be a wing nut,

1467
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,439
today wouldn't They they would they would not be on

1468
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,479
the path for tenure right.

1469
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: Unless they were in the philosophy of the. Moment that

1470
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:45,119
this is exactly my.

1471
01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:47,199
Speaker 5: Point we're talking about three of the greatest mathematicians in

1472
01:20:47,239 --> 01:20:49,880
mankind's history that have really changed mankind talking like, this what?

1473
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,079
Happened how do we get to a situation where they

1474
01:20:52,119 --> 01:20:53,720
could not be in the high, physics you, know they

1475
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,600
could not be in the mathematic in the mathematics department

1476
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:56,960
or working in scienceity.

1477
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,279
Speaker 2: Physics so it's an easy. Answer newton was a combination

1478
01:20:59,359 --> 01:21:02,560
of mathematician or geometry then and, philosopher and as time

1479
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,359
went on that those disciplines seem to.

1480
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,199
Speaker 1: Well newton was an, alchemist so he Didn't he referenced

1481
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:10,880
alchemy earlier and said he kind of gave some credence

1482
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,439
to the possibility the transmutation of matter that he thinks that's.

1483
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,279
Legit and now he's talking About, newton who was a

1484
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,039
committed hermeticist.

1485
01:21:20,079 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: Alchemist move, apart we had philosophy who some of the

1486
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,439
philosophers can't do, math and some of the. Mathematicians and

1487
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,079
again mathematicians often break into two. Categories people that solve.

1488
01:21:27,159 --> 01:21:29,800
Problems those are more like, geometris you, know there's just problem,

1489
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,079
solvers and then there's thinkers. Theoreticians they're more like the

1490
01:21:33,119 --> 01:21:36,039
old movement towards. Philosophy but neither one of those two

1491
01:21:36,039 --> 01:21:38,399
groups have been able to figure out why something is.

1492
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:40,439
Alive as opposed to something that's not. Alive no one's

1493
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:41,840
been able to describe what the soul, is but we

1494
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:47,000
all know it, exists AND i think what we need

1495
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,479
is a new science is a bad. WORD i think

1496
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,359
science only describes the things we already know about the physical.

1497
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:53,239
World in, fact there's an argument that the physical world

1498
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:56,399
that we see has been created out of our systems

1499
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:56,960
to be of.

1500
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 1: Mathematics so there you have A Pythagorean kabbalistic argument that

1501
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,960
reality itself is mathematics or. Numbers and you do find

1502
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,119
this in some of the well known famous physicists out,

1503
01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:13,920
there Like max Tech Mar max Tech, mark for, example

1504
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:19,159
thinks that reality literally is, numbers which is again kind

1505
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:25,119
of the Ancient pythagorean And platonic. Position so that's definitely

1506
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,800
where he's coming, from whether you believe it or. Not

1507
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,319
and it's interesting Because i've said for a long time

1508
01:22:31,359 --> 01:22:35,079
THAT i think that probably the elites, themselves And i'm

1509
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:37,119
not saying that he's really some kind of like he

1510
01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:39,119
really knows the. Science he seems to be more of a,

1511
01:22:39,159 --> 01:22:44,119
sued but a very well connected, sued an organized crime.

1512
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:47,920
Figure they have a different, physics and that's exactly What

1513
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,479
i've been saying all, along AND i said that years,

1514
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,600
ago Because Brave New world says That Mustapha mon says

1515
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,760
To john The, savage we have a different physics and

1516
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,520
science that is nothing to do with what we put

1517
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:06,000
out to the. Normies we debase the normies through derascinating toxic,

1518
01:23:06,079 --> 01:23:10,279
culture and we have a separate understanding and discourse that we.

1519
01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:14,199
Do and it sounds like, mystical neoplatonic. Stuff and that's

1520
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:17,119
exactly What justin McCaffrey is saying.

1521
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: Here. Mathematics everyone knows mathematics describes the physical world much

1522
01:23:20,359 --> 01:23:23,680
greater than it should unless you my, view the physical

1523
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,840
world really comes out of conscious beings that have, mathematics

1524
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,239
so they create. It this table appears to you AND

1525
01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:32,600
i to be solid to a bat or, if because

1526
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,479
we have light that's bouncing off the table into our.

1527
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,760
Eyes it appears solid if instead of eyes that responded

1528
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,479
to wavelengths of visual, light our eyes responded to radio.

1529
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,640
Waves the radio. Frequencies it's not. Different it's the same

1530
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,439
type of frequency is light with different. Speeds the tables.

1531
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,840
Invisible we know that our phone works in this, room

1532
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,319
so the waves are coming through the. Windows the waves

1533
01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:56,840
are coming through the, walls so the walls are invisible

1534
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,479
to that type of, radiation that type of. Energy the

1535
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,920
walls ARE i can see them because my. EYES a

1536
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,359
physical system determines that the walls are.

1537
01:24:05,359 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: There you with With now we're going Full David. Ike

1538
01:24:11,119 --> 01:24:17,199
five cents REALITY a five sets. Reality are you found?

1539
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:19,079
It we just Need Jeff stin mcavery to talk about

1540
01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:20,920
The cheetah Orianax cha.

1541
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 5: Or the original donor and what had the idea Of

1542
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,560
Santa Fe institute in ten or fifteen years, later that

1543
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,279
effort to study the complexity of systems. Mathematically, Yes, oliver what's? Up?

1544
01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:38,359
Speaker 1: Hello, yep.

1545
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,319
Speaker 11: Hey Fool LIKE i appreciate you know you Current epstein.

1546
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:48,279
Stuff it's, like, HEY i was reading Through i've been

1547
01:24:48,279 --> 01:24:49,640
going through through all The epstein.

1548
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 4: Piles play along.

1549
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 11: With you and the audience and like a shout out

1550
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,079
to theos because.

1551
01:24:55,640 --> 01:25:01,399
Speaker 12: Are, hey, bro that's that's totally babe bro Like, Amy

1552
01:25:02,319 --> 01:25:07,800
there was not One, Jose there was not One, gusto

1553
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,960
not One gozales in all of them.

1554
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,279
Speaker 1: Files bro do we barely made the? Cut though we

1555
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:15,000
barely made the.

1556
01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 12: Cut Ro hey check it out thoughs.

1557
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:21,079
Speaker 5: WHAT u?

1558
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 10: Dude apol no, Homies no homies in the? Files what's Up?

1559
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:32,359
Speaker 1: Tyndall?

1560
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 5: Yo?

1561
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,159
Speaker 1: Jay what's McKenna think about?

1562
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:42,319
Speaker 13: Tonight, WELL i think it's very important that we don't

1563
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:48,199
get a negative view of The kabbala From Jeffrey. Epstein

1564
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:53,880
just because the evil people use The kabbala as a

1565
01:25:54,039 --> 01:25:58,720
tool doesn't mean the tool itself is. Evil that's very.

1566
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:05,239
Important that Was terrence. Mckennap garlos was? Up, Dude hey Carlos,

1567
01:26:05,319 --> 01:26:05,920
man what's on your?

1568
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,159
Speaker 1: Mind? BRO a? Dude was you in the? Files?

1569
01:26:08,199 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 5: Bro was you in the?

1570
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 2: Files go go to it on mu?

1571
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:19,159
Speaker 14: Bro he fool you barely on Muted, Garlos i'm. Mute

1572
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,119
see this is carlos. A, bro are you in the?

1573
01:26:23,159 --> 01:26:25,640
FILES i DON'T i have been.

1574
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 9: LOOKING i am not in the.

1575
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,199
Speaker 1: Files did you check your real, name? Bro or your fake?

1576
01:26:30,319 --> 01:26:32,279
Speaker 4: Name, no it's it's it's close.

1577
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: Enough It's.

1578
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,239
Speaker 6: Charles but IF i were really high or really, Drunk

1579
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:40,079
epstein would be making a whole lot more.

1580
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 4: SENSE i think he.

1581
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:47,039
Speaker 1: Is he's got his two hour interview With Steve. Bannon

1582
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:49,720
it's LIKE i think he's just stalling for. Time he's

1583
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,319
not set a. Thing, Uh we're we're, Out we're Our

1584
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,359
we're an hour a half into. It, NO i mean

1585
01:26:58,119 --> 01:27:02,479
you think he's. Stalling, MAYBE i mean he's bolin' Like Joseph,

1586
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:08,720
stalin just. KIDDING i mean he said some. THINGS i

1587
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,880
mean what he said in one half of an hour

1588
01:27:11,039 --> 01:27:13,159
could have been said in ten. Minutes i'll say that.

1589
01:27:13,319 --> 01:27:16,159
Speaker 2: Much that total. Failure, yeah total, filure total. Failure why

1590
01:27:16,279 --> 01:27:18,600
is that it's the failure of? Science because in, fact

1591
01:27:19,039 --> 01:27:22,119
if some extent science doesn't describe, ROMANCE i don't know

1592
01:27:22,119 --> 01:27:24,840
WHY i am attracted to. SOMEBODY i don't know people are.

1593
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,039
Speaker 1: Tracked, well maybe it's because they're like five year. Olds

1594
01:27:28,119 --> 01:27:33,000
and Now i'm just. Joking, yeah this is a bizarre.

1595
01:27:33,159 --> 01:27:36,640
Interview this is just so. Weird we've got a couple

1596
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,439
more super. Chats Faraden. Carino you used to research The Jason.

1597
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,960
Group it's covered extensively in The Annie jacobsen book on

1598
01:27:45,039 --> 01:27:47,279
The history OF, darpa which we lectured. Through five hundred

1599
01:27:47,279 --> 01:27:49,239
page book we lectured, through and is covered extensively in

1600
01:27:49,359 --> 01:27:52,239
The Soldier's Reason, book which we lectured. Through So i'm

1601
01:27:52,319 --> 01:27:55,600
familiar with The Jason. Group it's elite. Scientists they were

1602
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:01,079
advisors of governments on sensitive things like fusion PLASMA DRDs defense. Projects,

1603
01:28:01,319 --> 01:28:04,479
Yes i'm very familiar with. It they also talk about

1604
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:08,800
free energy and ether. Yep Cyrus patima ten, dollars did

1605
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,439
you talk about extensively the connection To? Israel, yes we've

1606
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,760
covered it all. Week i've not been able to tune

1607
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,479
in all. Week thank you for your. Work thank you

1608
01:28:16,279 --> 01:28:18,880
ninety six To shay five. Dollars do you somehow it

1609
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:24,640
feels Like epstein thing like it's, wait somehow it feels

1610
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,800
like we aren't treating This epstein thing like it's a

1611
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:35,119
world leading billionaires. Involved, YEAH i mean it's IT'S i,

1612
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:37,720
Mean i've been saying all week It's bond villain. Stuff

1613
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:42,039
what do you, Mean Cyrus patima five. DOLLARS i found

1614
01:28:42,039 --> 01:28:44,640
out one of my friends and uncles is. Listed, WELL

1615
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,800
i mean a lot of it's three million files and

1616
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,279
that includes news. Articles it's all kinds of. Stuff, SO i,

1617
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:53,800
mean you, Know Lord voldemart was in, there and Even

1618
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,039
jefftin mcgeffrey was saying he didn't Like Lord valdemart Because

1619
01:28:57,079 --> 01:29:01,560
voldemort exposes the. Network that's What alex was. Saying but

1620
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,319
let's finish. This we're almost to the end of.

1621
01:29:03,399 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: It with each other when some everyone has the same.

1622
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,720
Feeling they've seen someone walk in the room and they, said,

1623
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,560
oh that person gives me a creepy. Feeling science has

1624
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,159
tried to describe.

1625
01:29:10,199 --> 01:29:13,399
Speaker 1: Science so this IS i, mean, wow sixth. Sense this

1626
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:13,720
is so.

1627
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,079
Speaker 2: Deep describe what creepy feelings. Means they just know it's

1628
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:19,600
a creepy. FEELING i think, women AS i, Said.

1629
01:29:20,199 --> 01:29:23,119
Speaker 1: Jeff must be describing the feeling that many women had

1630
01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:24,880
when he came into the. Room so he must be

1631
01:29:25,039 --> 01:29:29,239
very familiar with people having the creepy feeling phenomenon last.

1632
01:29:29,239 --> 01:29:32,279
Speaker 2: Time have an intuitive. Sense what is? Intuitive they have,

1633
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,760
Intuition they have, feelings and they're able to deal in

1634
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,520
the realm of things that, men especially men like myself find.

1635
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,479
Unexplainable they have Great women have. Intuition men see things

1636
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,800
a bit. Differently men want to measure. Everything women in.

1637
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: That, Really i'll see he's an intuitive bro. Right we

1638
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,000
had a lot of callers tonight calling in with their.

1639
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:54,319
Intuition we should just follow their. Intuition, candae just follow my.

1640
01:29:54,399 --> 01:29:57,439
Intuition don't worry about a bunch of research and reading.

1641
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,720
Books just follow my. Intuition, well it turns out just

1642
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,479
On geffert is a good he's a he's a defender of.

1643
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:07,359
Women he's a good old feminist at, heart good Old

1644
01:30:07,399 --> 01:30:12,720
jeff stim. Mceffort women have a more deeply seated intuitive.

1645
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:18,359
Sense now do you Think jeff really believed that given

1646
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,560
what he says in all of the other private, communications

1647
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,279
particularly with regard to eugenics AND iq and all of

1648
01:30:25,399 --> 01:30:27,840
the nasty times.

1649
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: That he speaks of the wiggers that interested in.

1650
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 5: Measuring in what you're saying in, macrotterms you actually think science.

1651
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,039
Mathematics maybe ultimately technology is moving to that more INTUITIVE.

1652
01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: I think science and math are old, fashioned and unfortunately

1653
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:43,640
people are still taught that they.

1654
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,159
Speaker 1: Have, yeah we need a new. Science that's lady Led

1655
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,600
i'm ready for slay queen, science slavey science. Girl and

1656
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,680
it's just gonna be WHAT i feel at the. Moment

1657
01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:56,680
by the, way can that's going to be the high

1658
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,960
priestess of the new, science because that's what a, dream

1659
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,960
it's WHAT i feels at the, moment and it's WHOEVER

1660
01:31:04,039 --> 01:31:09,079
i don't like they is canceled on. Scientific that's the new.

1661
01:31:09,159 --> 01:31:10,920
Science and you heard it From justin'm okay for you

1662
01:31:11,039 --> 01:31:11,239
right there.

1663
01:31:11,279 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 2: Yourself they'll learn algebra in school and certain things in

1664
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,239
school as opposed to learning to.

1665
01:31:17,039 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 5: Give is this What Larry summers was.

1666
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Trying by the, way this is the public consumption. Stuff

1667
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:23,680
Kater perr are going to be the new science.

1668
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 15: Queen remember when what his name, Was, fauci, y'all, remember,

1669
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,079
y'all Remember. Fauci fauci, SAID i am the.

1670
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 4: Science don't disagree with.

1671
01:31:37,119 --> 01:31:38,039
Speaker 5: ME i am the.

1672
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:42,199
Speaker 1: Science, Well Jeff stein is, Saying Katie perry is the

1673
01:31:42,319 --> 01:31:45,560
science of the. Future by the, way why do you

1674
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,680
hate women if you don't support so hold on if

1675
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,720
you are, Against but if you're a, feminist then you're

1676
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:58,119
Pro Jeffrey. Epstein, see now we're toying with the fallacies

1677
01:31:58,239 --> 01:31:59,600
right perfectly.

1678
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,239
Speaker 5: Enough but what he was trying to get to in that,

1679
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,920
system the systems we study today are the way mathematics

1680
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:04,399
either taught or.

1681
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Understood jeff's sign be, Like so, basically What i'm saying

1682
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:08,920
is That earth is to ashy.

1683
01:32:09,079 --> 01:32:10,319
Speaker 2: Okay, earth you, see is very.

1684
01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 16: Ghetto it's very, ashy is very, ghetto and we want

1685
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:16,439
to ungratify and unash The earth with a large quantity

1686
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,239
of ditty oil that would moisturize the earth to make

1687
01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:21,239
it no longer ashy that.

1688
01:32:21,319 --> 01:32:23,079
Speaker 5: Women just havn't gotten up to the highest realms of,

1689
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,279
engineering or physics or mathematics because of, that.

1690
01:32:25,359 --> 01:32:29,079
Speaker 1: Because there was oppressed, though because the patriarchy was oppress

1691
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:32,880
on the. Women see, you, ladies y'all had a negative

1692
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,159
appraisal Of Jeff sin MacCaffrey all these. Years y'all thought

1693
01:32:35,159 --> 01:32:38,000
he was a bad. Dude he's on your. Side he's

1694
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,199
trying to get you a damn stem. Job he's trying

1695
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:45,359
to get your stem cells and get you a stem position.

1696
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 5: Girlfriend and you're you're actually applying that there's a either

1697
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,159
new branch or science or we've hid a inflection, point

1698
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:53,560
like A newton that's going to go Into newton took

1699
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,199
man kind of different direction because he was able to.

1700
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:57,840
Measure then you had subatomic you, know Non newtonian. Physics,

1701
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,960
later are you saying that you think there's another developed

1702
01:33:00,119 --> 01:33:01,960
field it's coming up that may take US i don't

1703
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,680
know how many decades to get our hands, around but

1704
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:04,760
that that's what's evolving out of.

1705
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,520
Speaker 2: This, yes, yeah in FACT i think that mathematics it's

1706
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,079
not the end of. Science every year someone says at

1707
01:33:10,079 --> 01:33:11,760
the end of we can't discover. Everything there's lots to

1708
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,640
discover with a relationship to the physical, world but we

1709
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,560
know we're a lot already in respect to the unexplainable.

1710
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:17,520
World we almost know.

1711
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 1: Nothing somebody was calling, Him Jeffrey, simpstein we have the,

1712
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,319
smartest funniest chat on the. INTERNET i, swear do you

1713
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:30,840
guys make me cry laughing all the?

1714
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 2: Time women again sense it and instead Of Larry, Summers

1715
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,600
i'm JUST i won't digress too. Much But Howard gardner

1716
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,960
early on said there's not one form of.

1717
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Intelligence it just occurred to, me how amazingly transparent this,

1718
01:33:44,079 --> 01:33:49,000
is how hypocritical the mainline voices of feminism. Are this

1719
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:55,079
is a man who, steals, grapes traffics, women young, women

1720
01:33:56,319 --> 01:34:03,079
and he's publicly a feminist women's rights. Supporter amazing the

1721
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:06,640
level of just Absolutely and by the, way how many

1722
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,680
of the major voices of, feminism especially the male, feminists

1723
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,000
how many of them have we seen exhibit the exact

1724
01:34:13,079 --> 01:34:16,600
same traits where they get busted for some grape scandal

1725
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,319
or some insane level of weird deviancy that they're. Into

1726
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,439
isn't that? Interesting? Shocker?

1727
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 2: Right it's not mathematical. Intelligence there's emotional, intelligence kinesthetic. Intelligence you,

1728
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,439
know there's this argument THAT i reject that black people

1729
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:31,880
are less intelligent than white. People it's not.

1730
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: True oh? Really is that why all of your text

1731
01:34:35,039 --> 01:34:39,399
messages and private communications say the exact, opposite because you

1732
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,279
talk about genetics research and all the connections between genetics AND. Iq.

1733
01:34:43,239 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 2: Interesting we, know for example that IF i was in

1734
01:34:46,079 --> 01:34:48,319
the forest AND i had to run from the lion

1735
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,079
or figure out a way not to be, eaten and

1736
01:34:50,199 --> 01:34:54,159
my competition is a Local, African i'm the one who's

1737
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,079
getting eaten because they have the intelligence to deal with

1738
01:34:56,119 --> 01:35:00,399
the local. Environment so, wait what.

1739
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: Was he just saying that IF i was In, africa

1740
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,920
the black people would eat me and SO i would

1741
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:14,159
not be. Intelligent but he was in the context of

1742
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:19,640
defending black people as not LOW, iq but then saying

1743
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:23,199
that they're going to eat, Me like what that?

1744
01:35:23,399 --> 01:35:24,079
Speaker 9: Was that was a.

1745
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: Wild twist, There. Jeff it's just.

1746
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,399
Speaker 2: Different it's not, better it's not. Worse but there's many

1747
01:35:29,399 --> 01:35:32,159
differences amongst different types of, people and to people have different,

1748
01:35:32,199 --> 01:35:35,560
intelligences and they excel in some intelligences usually and less

1749
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:35,720
so in.

1750
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,279
Speaker 5: Others one need to come to because the world of

1751
01:35:38,319 --> 01:35:41,159
high finance is a world of pure reason or is?

1752
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:42,960
It is it a lot of emotion and gut checks

1753
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,319
and and you, know on trading desk in central banks

1754
01:35:45,399 --> 01:35:46,239
when these decisions get.

1755
01:35:46,279 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Made is it is it that, oh he was saying

1756
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,359
he was running from a. Lion didn't he say? CANNIBAL

1757
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,159
i thought he said the word cannibal.

1758
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 5: High church like the High church of science of high energy.

1759
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:57,960
Physics or is it as much emotion that comes in

1760
01:35:58,159 --> 01:35:59,800
as much as the mathematics and the reason.

1761
01:36:00,079 --> 01:36:06,079
Speaker 1: The High church of high energy physics bizarre. Terminology it's

1762
01:36:06,079 --> 01:36:06,319
a great.

1763
01:36:06,399 --> 01:36:10,399
Speaker 2: QUESTION i think if you talked to really experienced and successful, traders.

1764
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 10: Somebody Said epstein cause he's.

1765
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:21,279
Speaker 1: Fleeing Around africa from the cannibal. Tribe was? It lions are, Cannibals.

1766
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,399
Speaker 2: And you ask them how they know what's going, on

1767
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,239
they can't give you an. Answer they don't. Know they feel.

1768
01:36:27,279 --> 01:36:28,960
It they can feel the way the market's, moving they

1769
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,600
can feel the way the stock's. Moving and that these

1770
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,439
are not very well defined. Terms it's not it's difficult

1771
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,960
to put in mathematics. Terms how DID i feel? It

1772
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:36,439
you could look back and make guesses WHAT i was,

1773
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,600
Seeing but great traders feel it and then act on their.

1774
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,640
Feelings that's the. Difference many people feel it but are

1775
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,039
afraid because they want a mathematical.

1776
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: Justification if, All i'm started to think it really is human,

1777
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,640
jerky cause he's talking ABOUT i thought he said cannibals

1778
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,359
eating him In? Africa was that? Lions i'm. CONFUSED i

1779
01:36:53,399 --> 01:36:56,720
don't know what's. Lost, boy they Take we're five hours into. That.

1780
01:36:57,079 --> 01:36:58,359
Speaker 5: Nis when you first got on the trading desk of

1781
01:36:58,399 --> 01:37:00,640
Bear stearns in the late seventies or midst, seventies were

1782
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,239
you shocked by how little actual understanding of mathematics that

1783
01:37:03,319 --> 01:37:06,319
the traders. Comprehended, yeah, again we had A texas instrument

1784
01:37:06,359 --> 01:37:09,039
calculated most most, stockbrokers and especially before that can seventy.

1785
01:37:09,079 --> 01:37:12,079
Speaker 2: Five if they were, good stockbrokers could add that's about.

1786
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:12,359
Speaker 1: It they.

1787
01:37:12,359 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 2: Couldmultiply if you could, multiply you were already in the

1788
01:37:14,039 --> 01:37:17,199
top fifteen percent of. Stockbrokers stockbroker simply meant, that, jeffar

1789
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,520
there's a great there's a story WHEN i went to

1790
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,359
the first PERSON i had no, money AND i said

1791
01:37:23,359 --> 01:37:25,399
how much money do you make a? Year and he

1792
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,199
said four hundred thousand dollars. Impossible i'm making ten thousand.

1793
01:37:29,239 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 5: Dollars that's strolling more your family had made in his entire. Assistance,

1794
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:32,279
yes and.

1795
01:37:32,319 --> 01:37:33,399
Speaker 2: He makes it in a. YEAR i, said what do you?

1796
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,560
Do and he, said its too complicated for you to,

1797
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,319
understand which is what the main thrust Of Wall street.

1798
01:37:39,319 --> 01:37:41,760
People they want to tell you it's too complicated because

1799
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,800
if you understood, that that person was simply he had

1800
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,159
a brother in law in fact in this, case who

1801
01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:46,960
ran the pension, fund the general. Motors his brother in

1802
01:37:47,079 --> 01:37:48,640
law would call them and, say buy a THOUSAND. Ibm

1803
01:37:49,079 --> 01:37:50,359
he'd hang up the, phone he'd write it out on

1804
01:37:50,399 --> 01:37:52,520
a ticket and walk it to a. Window that was

1805
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,199
his entire skill. Set, hello, right what my brother in law,

1806
01:37:55,239 --> 01:37:58,439
says walk it to a ticket. Window give the example.

1807
01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 5: When you're on the trading door a time that you

1808
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,560
felt either complete uncertainty or you saw tone panic where people.

1809
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 2: To that's why it's so exciting, now BECAUSE i think

1810
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,760
certain people are starting to realize that there's so many

1811
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,399
things that are unexplainable that we have to think about them.

1812
01:38:14,399 --> 01:38:17,000
Differently music is a great, example just a it's a

1813
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,800
common man's. Example you, know when you hear a certain

1814
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,399
song it makes you feel a certain. Way how does

1815
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,159
it do? That we don't. Know we can't mathematize. It

1816
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:29,359
and even that, Music, steve nowadays we compress. Music when

1817
01:38:29,399 --> 01:38:32,880
you have a, violin it's compressed onto your. iPhone so

1818
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,880
what is? COMPRESSION i, Mean i'm taking lots of information

1819
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,239
And i'm cutting it into lots of pieces and squishing it.

1820
01:38:37,279 --> 01:38:38,880
Together and WHEN i squish, it.

1821
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,520
Speaker 1: Ugh coping fifteen, Dollars, jay have you reviewed the controversies

1822
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,119
About Dame Sarah mulali she's soon to be the Female

1823
01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:52,920
archbishop Of Canterbury anglican's? Wild No, No BUT i MEAN

1824
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,039
i knew that The episcopal or The anglican And An

1825
01:38:55,079 --> 01:39:01,760
episcopal churches were from the very inception. Fake what's, intuitive it's.

1826
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:09,640
Intuition justin mcgeffree says to tuxedo, dude bro two. Dollars

1827
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:20,560
does human jerky taste Like canadian? Bacon? Yes, Yes, elean

1828
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,680
rid who GOES i just finished Watching Nick cage eight?

1829
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,800
Millimeter is there any way THAT i could get a? Breakdown, Sincerely, Yakub,

1830
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,279
yeah we need to do eight. MILLIMETER i think that's

1831
01:39:29,319 --> 01:39:31,359
the one of The Nick cage movies we haven't. Done

1832
01:39:33,319 --> 01:39:35,960
unless we did it on the fifty k party. Stream

1833
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,079
we might HAVE i don't, remember but we should probably revisit.

1834
01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:43,359
It it's a lot more irrelevant, now isn't. It, okay

1835
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:48,239
somebody had a comment About archbish Or patriarch currole AND

1836
01:39:48,399 --> 01:39:55,640
i can't find. It where'd it? Go thank You Intel

1837
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,479
wild for that, comment because there was a. Comment let me,

1838
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:06,119
see do you have any thoughts On Chris LANGEN'S Ctmu

1839
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,520
blacksmith five. DOLLARS i, MEAN i think there's some interesting

1840
01:40:11,359 --> 01:40:13,720
parallels with, tag but it also kind of ends up

1841
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,720
being IF i recall a thing where he thinks that

1842
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,279
you project reality from your, mind WHICH i don't understand.

1843
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:24,600
That Kevin ru's five, dollars there was a meeting Between

1844
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,760
carol and The. Coptics this is a great look At

1845
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,800
christian outreach that is not a. Humanist everybody should watch. It,

1846
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:33,960
OKAY i wasn't onn aware of. That high On jack two,

1847
01:40:34,039 --> 01:40:37,119
dollars he looks like a Malnourished Ron. Perlan he.

1848
01:40:37,159 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 2: Does you're, right we'll compress.

1849
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: It he's Like Ron pearlman on. OZEMPIC i have.

1850
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 2: To take out lots of, pieces BUT i say that

1851
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:45,479
they're not very. Important pieces.

1852
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,039
Speaker 1: L bau five. Dollars what Would Kat williams say about?

1853
01:40:49,039 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 16: This, listen, Listen i'm gonna tell you all right, Now

1854
01:40:52,079 --> 01:40:53,960
ain't No jasim McCaffrey going up in my?

1855
01:40:54,039 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Booty how?

1856
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:59,239
Speaker 2: Okay it's those pieces that we take out when we compress.

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01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,199
Data to, me are the most interesting parts of. Life

1858
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:03,239
you just said a while.

1859
01:41:03,239 --> 01:41:05,119
Speaker 5: Ago part of this new search for science may go

1860
01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:06,960
back to when people actually talking about a, soul and you,

1861
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,239
said there no doubt in your mind that there is a.

1862
01:41:08,279 --> 01:41:09,960
Soul describe for me what you mean by. That what

1863
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,199
do you mean by? Soul what do you mean to

1864
01:41:11,319 --> 01:41:13,920
solve different than the physical analog body that we're seeing

1865
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:14,319
on film right.

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01:41:14,319 --> 01:41:17,079
Speaker 2: Now it's difficult to describe in. WORDS i, Mean i'm

1867
01:41:17,079 --> 01:41:19,039
not a. Poet poems get a little closer to what

1868
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:21,479
that really. Means but we. Can even the concept of

1869
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,359
what is life becomes complicated when you deal with plants and.

1870
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:27,600
Seeds is a seed? ALIVE i don't, know and certain

1871
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,279
people say, no it's. Dead when you have, banana one

1872
01:41:30,279 --> 01:41:32,119
of my favorite examples is the banana that's sitting on

1873
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:33,920
the countertop in your kitchen. Today is it alive or?

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01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 5: Dead what do you think about human?

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01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:35,199
Speaker 2: Life when is?

1876
01:41:35,239 --> 01:41:35,520
Speaker 9: That what is?

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01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:36,159
Speaker 5: Human tell me about?

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01:41:36,199 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 2: Human but you have? Bana this is.

1879
01:41:37,039 --> 01:41:39,119
Speaker 1: Alive this is funny because this is their text email

1880
01:41:39,159 --> 01:41:42,720
exchange where they have this conversation about whether the banana is,

1881
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:46,680
alive and then they're, like, okay but is it?

1882
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,640
Speaker 2: Conscious it's just, goofy that bananas. Breathing it's on Your

1883
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,479
you say it's, Impossible, Jeffrey, no is the banana? Conscious

1884
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,920
all these these are, Words so you everyone's trying to

1885
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,880
fit very complicated concepts into a very small by called

1886
01:42:01,279 --> 01:42:03,840
conscious or. Alive it's these don't fit in that. Way

1887
01:42:04,039 --> 01:42:05,720
so if you put your bana in a bag and

1888
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,079
put another fruit in with, it the fruit ripens fast

1889
01:42:08,119 --> 01:42:11,079
because the banana breathes with. It that's we don't.

1890
01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:18,199
Speaker 1: We've we've a cidicular two. Dollars does jefs sim McAffrey

1891
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:23,479
have pepperoni, nipples peppers. PEPSTEIN i don't. KNOW i haven't

1892
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,239
looked at his nude. BODY i don't really care to

1893
01:42:25,279 --> 01:42:25,800
see his nude.

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01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 2: Body understand what most of those? Things so you asked

1895
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,560
the big, question do you talk at the? Life what

1896
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,840
about human? Life what about?

1897
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,319
Speaker 5: It tell me what do you, think what do you

1898
01:42:32,359 --> 01:42:32,960
think human life?

1899
01:42:33,039 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: Is it's a. Miracle it's a. Miracle and WHEN i say,

1900
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,279
MIRACLE i can't explain, it AND i make no attempt

1901
01:42:38,319 --> 01:42:39,840
to explain. It at the, moment we don't know how

1902
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,880
to think about. It and anyone it is getting another

1903
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,600
one of The fineman. Quotes when he was talking about quantum,

1904
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,000
physics he, said Anyone jeffrey who says they understand quantum

1905
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,199
physics and quantum mechanics and quantum, behavior you know they.

1906
01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 5: Lie let's talk about that's postnetonium. Talk talk about what's the?

1907
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,479
Difference who found a quantum mechanics?

1908
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: What it's funny because even though this is new, age

1909
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,880
he also kind of sounds like a reddit bro, too.

1910
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,960
Right he's like a reddit enormy with a lot of

1911
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,840
this stuff which can scrack me.

1912
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,279
Speaker 5: Up it's called quant, mechanics Taking newtonian physics and taking

1913
01:43:07,279 --> 01:43:07,680
it to the next.

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01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 2: Level it's forms a much broader. Category let's get back

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01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:10,920
to this.

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01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 5: Desk you used. It the thing Of newton using this,

1917
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,000
desk what Is why Can't newton's theory explain? Everything why

1918
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,319
did sub atomic quantum mechanics or quantum physics have to

1919
01:43:18,359 --> 01:43:19,359
come and to, explain to explain.

1920
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 2: This, well so let's let's go right back to square.

1921
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,159
One why is it called quantum. Physics so quanta is

1922
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:27,680
a word that simply means, packet small, Amount so it's.

1923
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,399
Quantized so we, recognized when we've recognized that this table appeers,

1924
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,199
appears another very complicated word solid.

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01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 9: Us it.

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01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:37,239
Speaker 2: Has it's really made up of molecules or, atoms and

1927
01:43:37,399 --> 01:43:39,880
atoms we've given lots of names to what some of the.

1928
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 1: Behaviors, wow this is really. Deep so we're back to

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01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:48,000
uh seventh grade level physics. Class this is.

1930
01:43:48,079 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 2: Amazing if you were in, school when you AND i

1931
01:43:50,039 --> 01:43:51,880
were in school in the, fifties the model was a

1932
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,159
little center thing in the, middle and electron went around

1933
01:43:54,199 --> 01:43:56,800
and around. It it was seen as a ball that

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01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:57,600
went around and around.

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01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 1: It, daniel five. Dollars did you See epstein's email to

1936
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,880
All brecht about making grinder profiles to Blackmail american. Politicians

1937
01:44:08,119 --> 01:44:11,119
that's a. Joke that's a. Joke daniel is.

1938
01:44:11,239 --> 01:44:13,039
Speaker 2: Joking and as we start to look at to, say

1939
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:14,760
well let's see what this bull looks. LIKE i want

1940
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:16,479
to be able to examine that little thing called an

1941
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,199
electron we, found uh, yeah a.

1942
01:44:19,239 --> 01:44:23,199
Speaker 1: Lot of dyla monkey coded references here with the bananas

1943
01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:26,640
and the you, know evolution and this is getting really.

1944
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Deep there was nothing. There it wasn't the. Thing it

1945
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,880
was simply a cloud OF i.

1946
01:44:33,039 --> 01:44:37,359
Speaker 1: Like how they're discussing things that you would literally hear

1947
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:39,920
in like your introduction To philosophy, class like the first.

1948
01:44:40,039 --> 01:44:44,560
Day this is the stuff that comes, up like literally

1949
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:48,039
an intro to, philosophy, okay WHICH i remember intro to.

1950
01:44:48,039 --> 01:44:50,800
PHILOSOPHY i had a great intro to philosophy. Professor he

1951
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,479
was a human, skeptic but he was a great. Professor

1952
01:44:54,039 --> 01:44:55,840
and this is literally the stuff that we talked. About

1953
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,960
it was it was, LIKE, i let's talk about. Philosophy

1954
01:45:00,119 --> 01:45:02,359
and he was not A jewish guy who was a,

1955
01:45:03,239 --> 01:45:07,640
chubby kind of alcoholic dude with a big, gut and

1956
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:08,960
he would just kind of he would he would just

1957
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,560
start to haul the chalk like this and he would

1958
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,159
rest his hand on his gut and he would, go, yeah,

1959
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:20,159
well so it's like the number seven is number? Seven a?

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01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:20,399
Speaker 6: Lie?

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01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: One is?

1962
01:45:21,079 --> 01:45:23,520
Speaker 2: It where is? It how do we know what it?

1963
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Is what any guys?

1964
01:45:25,079 --> 01:45:25,279
Speaker 5: Think?

1965
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:30,199
Speaker 1: Right that's like day one Of Introduction philosophy in college

1966
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:33,720
your first. Day and it's funny to me because like

1967
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,399
he And bannon think they're having this like two HUNDRED

1968
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:41,560
iq level conversation that no one could even barely. Understand

1969
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,920
and it's literally what you would talk about like the

1970
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,119
first day of philosophy.

1971
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: Class get that we can call an. Electron so we

1972
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:50,560
already start to see mysterious things as we go into

1973
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,479
very super small quantities quantum. Physics so quantum physics like

1974
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,000
to go into the very small and very small.

1975
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: Distances, wow so quantum physics about small quantities is actually

1976
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:07,520
about the physics of small. Quantities, damn this is blowing my. Mind.

1977
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 2: Ude we see things that we can't, explain just cannot

1978
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:12,279
explain how much a type.

1979
01:46:15,119 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: We got face, lords and we got mind, lords we

1980
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,680
got mind. Loaders but by the, way this is also

1981
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:26,479
why the new atheists in his sphere were so influential

1982
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:31,520
and we're so effective from the two thousands up into you,

1983
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,880
know the death of that, stuff you, know five or

1984
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,479
six years, ago it's dying out on. YouTube you have

1985
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,199
the last dying gasps of it With Professor dave And

1986
01:46:39,319 --> 01:46:42,960
derek Myth vision and all. That like this explains why

1987
01:46:43,039 --> 01:46:47,039
this was so easy to pass off on. People was

1988
01:46:47,159 --> 01:46:49,600
because people were dumbed down and they were stupid and

1989
01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:52,680
being introduced to a lot of these, topics and because

1990
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,439
people don't study, philosophy they think that this, is oh my,

1991
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,640
gosh the Dark. Enlightenment. Dude these people are so. Smart

1992
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,399
and then you notice anytime that they encounter anybody with

1993
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:07,359
like a just a mid tier level of, philosophy they're like,

1994
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,800
words big, Words what what logic?

1995
01:47:13,039 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 5: Is what that?

1996
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 4: Means what that?

1997
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,279
Speaker 5: Is what that? Is what that?

1998
01:47:16,399 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 10: Mean what that?

1999
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:17,159
Speaker 5: Mean?

2000
01:47:17,399 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: Right they go full bricing gray.

2001
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:20,119
Speaker 2: Logic what that?

2002
01:47:20,359 --> 01:47:21,119
Speaker 5: Is what that?

2003
01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:22,399
Speaker 1: Mean what that?

2004
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 2: Mean and to Summarize And i'm, sorry.

2005
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,079
Speaker 5: Let's go back to human. Life when do you think

2006
01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:27,479
human life?

2007
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Starts it's not These so you, see this is the.

2008
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,720
Question you're asking me to measure something, again it's. Measure

2009
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,279
you're just you just hate making. Commitments that's Why i'm not.

2010
01:47:36,359 --> 01:47:39,119
Speaker 5: Married I'm i'm peeling this onion back a lair of.

2011
01:47:39,159 --> 01:47:41,319
Time all your bullshit and. Happytar you can't be measure

2012
01:47:41,359 --> 01:47:42,960
can't be measured like? That is that to say measure

2013
01:47:43,039 --> 01:47:44,640
makes it's a. Commitment you don't even like a commitment

2014
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:45,680
when you you.

2015
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,199
Speaker 1: Just say all your bullshit.

2016
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 5: Answer, QUESTION i know the saying, golf commit to the.

2017
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 2: SHOT i don't know what it means to be.

2018
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,119
Speaker 5: Measured you do know what it means to be. Measured

2019
01:47:54,119 --> 01:47:56,560
you're one of the leading currency, traders hedge fund, guys

2020
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,479
or stock market financial. Wizard you're the high priesthood.

2021
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:02,279
Speaker 1: Hyphen you're in the high priesthood of high. Finance interesting

2022
01:48:02,359 --> 01:48:04,840
commentary there From bannon H, and by the, Way, no

2023
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:09,000
the fact that he's in finance has absolutely no connection

2024
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,239
at all with the ability for him to measure things

2025
01:48:12,399 --> 01:48:16,560
in physics or in. Philosophy so it's like so many

2026
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:23,880
people think that one being, fluid, fluent and proficient in

2027
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,199
one discourse or one domain makes them experts in. Everything

2028
01:48:27,279 --> 01:48:30,560
it's such a weird. Phenomenon you certainly know how to.

2029
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 5: Measure that's why you're. Beginner any other answer besides that

2030
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,319
is totally complete, bullshit and you know.

2031
01:48:34,399 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 2: IT i know very few.

2032
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,319
Speaker 5: Things you know things to be. Measured you measure every.

2033
01:48:38,359 --> 01:48:40,279
Day you weigh and measure every. Day you wiy and measure,

2034
01:48:40,279 --> 01:48:42,439
People you ay and measure, Leaders you measure, Ecdomies you

2035
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,119
way to measure, politics very way. Measure you hang on

2036
01:48:45,159 --> 01:48:47,319
your hang on your whole life in, fact is.

2037
01:48:47,359 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Measuring that's so what you've now done is a great.

2038
01:48:50,039 --> 01:48:52,920
Thing is you've used the word, measure a mathematic term

2039
01:48:53,159 --> 01:48:54,960
in the common of, vernacular and abused it SO i

2040
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:56,319
don't even recognize what it. Means it's so.

2041
01:48:56,359 --> 01:49:00,359
Speaker 1: Abusive ooh, damn he just called out and then for

2042
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,199
a word concept, fallacy, Damn Jeff stein on the.

2043
01:49:03,279 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 2: Rack he on the right track now she he.

2044
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Just went full category, air full grammatical word concept there

2045
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:13,319
On BANNON o my.

2046
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,520
Speaker 5: Field, well and let's go in mathematics what that means

2047
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:18,079
and measure means what?

2048
01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 2: Specifically that's it's no specific it's a an approximation or

2049
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,119
give it's giving something a. Number IF I einstein's not

2050
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:25,319
asking you to go to the, ninth that's my point

2051
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:26,960
that we didn't say that. Before now you're not going

2052
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,920
to the. Night even IF i say, measure how tall are?

2053
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,840
You you'd, say you say six f it six foot

2054
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,439
one inch to give her take. Six look's fight between

2055
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:35,880
five eleven and six? Feet but what's? That BUT i

2056
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:37,479
want so the question IS i want to ask You

2057
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,319
ZENO'S i Got zeno's. PARADOX i don't even know what

2058
01:49:39,399 --> 01:49:40,119
it means to measure you was.

2059
01:49:40,119 --> 01:49:43,279
Speaker 1: In my, gosh this is so retarded that NOW i see.

2060
01:49:43,319 --> 01:49:46,079
Why NOW i see why people were calling this all sued, ship,

2061
01:49:46,279 --> 01:49:48,840
right BECAUSE i thought we're gonna have something interesting with

2062
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:51,479
The leibniz. Stuff it wasn't even about liive. Notes it's

2063
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:56,239
like two seconds About leibnitz and then, uh thirty minutes

2064
01:49:56,359 --> 01:50:02,399
of word concept fallacies and just, yeah Apping, sudery which,

2065
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:07,199
participant Which hunt? Participant two? Dollars did you Read francis

2066
01:50:07,399 --> 01:50:11,840
of the? FILTH i don't know what that. Is high

2067
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,199
On jack five. Dollars Is Jeff stein still dead or

2068
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,000
is he dead or? Alive is it a case Of SCHRODINGER'S.

2069
01:50:18,119 --> 01:50:22,960
Pdf we don't. KNOW i, Mean i've not seen evidence

2070
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,880
showing necessarily that he's, alive but xfiltration is.

2071
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:28,399
Speaker 2: Possible.

2072
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: Uh BUT i also think that makes a lot of

2073
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,760
sense that you would offer, somebody uh who's a middle management.

2074
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 2: FIXER i mean measuring the top of your, hair the

2075
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,960
top of your, skull which and the finer the.

2076
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 5: More you're, getting that's you're being. Rabbinical this is like.

2077
01:50:46,159 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: Base oh he called him, out rabbinical Base duebanon So.

2078
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 5: Baze isn't, That what isn't that going through the tour

2079
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,359
where you're, where, you're, you're, you're you're parsing every every every,

2080
01:50:56,399 --> 01:51:00,800
definition however we broadly define measure your life literally is about,

2081
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:01,319
measurement is it?

2082
01:51:01,399 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 2: Not it's about putting numbers on.

2083
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,319
Speaker 1: Things by the, way that both SuDS and actual academics

2084
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,079
do the same. Thing so sometimes this is hard to parse,

2085
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:12,520
out especially if you're a non intelligent. PERSON a non

2086
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,720
intelligent person can't tell the difference between A sued and

2087
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:19,159
an actual scholar or, academic because both of them will,

2088
01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:22,960
say depends on what you, Mean, well you know, what

2089
01:51:23,159 --> 01:51:25,520
depends on what you? Mean what do you mean by your?

2090
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,000
Soul what do you mean by?

2091
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:27,159
Speaker 9: That?

2092
01:51:27,279 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 2: Well fuck you.

2093
01:51:28,039 --> 01:51:32,520
Speaker 1: Know so both SuDS and actual scholars will do, this

2094
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,479
BUT i think in the case of, SuDS they do

2095
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:40,239
it to be kind of playing, games to not actually

2096
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,039
give you a clear answers.

2097
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 2: To what they're referring, to so THAT i can try

2098
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,640
that you can call it whatever you.

2099
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 5: Like that what makes you feel better to your scientific?

2100
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 2: Inquiry, no even a number of people don't a number

2101
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:53,760
as a. Complication when did you?

2102
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 5: Come when did you come to? This and flight why

2103
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:56,600
did you come to? This aha moment was when it

2104
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,680
was in when it was in your solitary confinement with

2105
01:51:58,720 --> 01:51:59,439
the biggest FINANCIAL.

2106
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:03,560
Speaker 1: Crst somebody said, This nick, said this is a practice.

2107
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,640
Interview that could be. True that maybe that's why we've

2108
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:09,760
only got the first two. Hours but supposedly this is

2109
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,960
like many many. HOURS i don't know if that's the.

2110
01:52:13,079 --> 01:52:15,840
Case but didn't ban and do Several BUT i think

2111
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:20,119
this was supposed to like Rebrand epstein as a. PHILANTHROPIST

2112
01:52:20,159 --> 01:52:23,600
i think was what some of the emails or something.

2113
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:37,439
Said punch made what's? Up punch made you want to? Mute,

2114
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:49,399
okay good, job you just waited for, nothing. Homeboy jefferfilt,

2115
01:52:49,399 --> 01:52:52,640
ollergy it would be interesting to Hear simpstein AND jf

2116
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,840
talk about consciousness and bananas and quantum. Loops, well you,

2117
01:52:55,920 --> 01:53:00,439
know that's a great parallel because they kind of DIDN'T.

2118
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:05,600
JF jf got money From epstein for some sort of research.

2119
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:12,000
Project pierre ten. Dollars David wood got docks by a

2120
01:53:12,119 --> 01:53:17,920
dollar orbiter and then created A koran demolition. Ranch what

2121
01:53:18,039 --> 01:53:22,800
does that? Mean A koran demolition? Ranch love your? Content appreciate.

2122
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:29,399
THAT i don't know what does that. Mean keevan reused two.

2123
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:33,199
DOLLARS i did two super chats On. KIROL i read.

2124
01:53:33,319 --> 01:53:42,479
One this is supposed to be spy. Music this is

2125
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,760
sounding more like dirty. Movies the sayings sounded like spa.

2126
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,960
Music sounds like old Dirty let's get some spy music

2127
01:53:50,239 --> 01:53:50,520
here we.

2128
01:53:50,600 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 5: Go uh.

2129
01:54:01,039 --> 01:54:04,119
Speaker 1: Okay keevan hies five dollars About. Kirol the videos out,

2130
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,520
there they take out of context what he actually said

2131
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,720
about war between. Brothers it's a terrible. Reality oh, Okay,

2132
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,039
YEAH i figure there was something out of. Context WELL

2133
01:54:13,079 --> 01:54:14,880
i have To i'll have to find like the full

2134
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,359
clip or. Whatever all, right let's finish The jeff's.

2135
01:54:18,079 --> 01:54:20,319
Speaker 5: Sein in world history was going on in your seven

2136
01:54:20,359 --> 01:54:22,439
by NINE jsl with your metal bed and you and

2137
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,439
your two brushes because you were trustee with the brown

2138
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:26,920
uniform mons trustees spelled? Wrong is that the moment of

2139
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:30,119
clarity that you had about science And newtonian physics and

2140
01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:31,640
everything that we can measure is really not going to

2141
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:32,640
be the way we go for. It it's going to

2142
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,399
be some, more much more Es speaking.

2143
01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 1: Of, dawa by the, WAY i thought it was pretty funny.

2144
01:54:36,039 --> 01:54:39,039
That did you guys notice That jake The muslim metaphysician

2145
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:42,960
made a video saying THAT dawa has basically. Failed all

2146
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,720
The dawa people in their whole thing is bike collapsed

2147
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,479
and it's it really didn't. Work it's funny to see

2148
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:51,720
The muslims owning each other over. That that's correcting me, out.

2149
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,279
Speaker 5: Terrek emotional? Intelligence thing is Your was that your? Moment?

2150
01:54:55,279 --> 01:54:57,319
Speaker 2: ATTORNEY i wish it, was would make such a great

2151
01:54:57,319 --> 01:54:59,960
story for this, interview but it's. Not it's the fact

2152
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,560
DID i need such a privileged life to come?

2153
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 5: Across so when did you it didnt? Happen then when

2154
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:04,279
did it already happen?

2155
01:55:04,319 --> 01:55:05,399
Speaker 2: BEFORE i was going to hope we get to The

2156
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:07,159
i'm in the priposed position to have some of the

2157
01:55:07,159 --> 01:55:09,439
world's smartest people come to my house and tell me

2158
01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:12,079
what they think about different, subjects AND i finally realized

2159
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:14,560
that the thing that they had most in common was

2160
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,079
there was this this. Area no matter how smart they,

2161
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:20,119
were that WHEN i asked him the, questions they, said

2162
01:55:20,279 --> 01:55:22,439
they'd have to resort to a five hundred or a

2163
01:55:22,439 --> 01:55:25,520
thousand year old response to that, question which WAS i don't, Know,

2164
01:55:26,279 --> 01:55:26,800
oh really.

2165
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,399
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i wonder WHAT i wonder if that commonality between

2166
01:55:30,439 --> 01:55:33,800
all of these new atheists and new. Dorks was something?

2167
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:38,560
Else jack ten? Dollars is this a is it this

2168
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,159
a practice? Interview? Bannon is media training him for a

2169
01:55:41,239 --> 01:55:44,199
sixteen minutes? Interview? OH i didn't know, that but, yeah

2170
01:55:44,199 --> 01:55:45,880
if that's the, case that does make a lot of

2171
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:52,880
sense because they were talking about like rebranding him or you,

2172
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:57,680
know making him into a. Philanthropist put all of just

2173
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,520
two dollars the atheist comments under your recent tag video

2174
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,560
or super retarded. Arrogant all they say is that you

2175
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:04,880
never say to the. Argument, well that's they don't. Understand

2176
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,159
there's different types of. Arguments everybody thinks that there's only

2177
01:56:07,239 --> 01:56:10,479
one kind of, argument which is the crackers in the pantry,

2178
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,600
fallacy which we've covered one hundred thousand times.

2179
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:18,239
Speaker 5: Over you know who who else found that?

2180
01:56:18,279 --> 01:56:20,359
Speaker 2: Out It's.

2181
01:56:20,439 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 5: Socrates that's What socrates kept, doing, Right socrates kept asking

2182
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:24,159
all the.

2183
01:56:24,199 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: Experts oh, wow, Dude jeffin mcgeffery is just a. Philosopher,

2184
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:33,319
Dude he's just a, philo. Bro he's just Like. Socrates,

2185
01:56:33,439 --> 01:56:37,359
Man he's just like asking the, deep penetrating questions about

2186
01:56:37,439 --> 01:56:39,760
reality and. Life that's. All that's all he's. Doing and

2187
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:43,239
he's a great dude deep, down just asking hard. Questions,

2188
01:56:43,319 --> 01:56:46,399
man what's the meaning of? Life? Bro where DO i

2189
01:56:46,479 --> 01:56:47,319
put the peep in the poo?

2190
01:56:47,359 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 5: Poo?

2191
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:48,199
Speaker 1: Bro that's all he's.

2192
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 5: Doing he would go, through you, know question after question after,

2193
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:52,279
question and realize at the end they didn't really. Know

2194
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:54,039
they really didn't basically understand what they were talking.

2195
01:56:54,039 --> 01:56:56,119
Speaker 2: About and one of the things that people won't. Enjoy

2196
01:56:56,479 --> 01:56:58,600
it turns out that potentially one of the bad things

2197
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,720
to teach children is how to. Write say it's in

2198
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:02,000
point with?

2199
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: What so we got full common. Core Jeff stane is

2200
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,479
a like go he's. GOING i never thought he would

2201
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:10,760
go Full obama common.

2202
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 5: Core.

2203
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:13,319
Speaker 2: Writing, reading arithmetic was supposed to be everyone supposed tough.

2204
01:57:13,359 --> 01:57:16,000
It but writing forces you into a very narrow channel of.

2205
01:57:16,039 --> 01:57:18,000
Thinking you have to write a certain in a certain,

2206
01:57:18,079 --> 01:57:20,479
form a certain, way in a certain linear. Pattern so you're,

2207
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,520
thinking you become somewhat. Narrow the most. Interest the REASON

2208
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,279
i brought up writing is one of the recent discoveries of,

2209
01:57:24,279 --> 01:57:26,880
mind which Respect. Socrates play Those aristotle because they never wrote,

2210
01:57:27,039 --> 01:57:31,479
anything they, spoke and people around who could write Wrote

2211
01:57:32,079 --> 01:57:32,800
socrates could.

2212
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,479
Speaker 5: Think so that's that Was jesus Of nazruth was the same, way,

2213
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:36,119
right never wrote.

2214
01:57:36,119 --> 01:57:38,439
Speaker 2: ANYTHING i thought he was a. Carpenter he was a

2215
01:57:38,479 --> 01:57:39,920
carpenter and then' he need like little coppmenters to.

2216
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 5: NIGHT i want to Get Lazi lisa's written. Record one last.

2217
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:49,920
Thing thank you for having me to your. House let's go,

2218
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,119
back let's go. Vest when did when did that the

2219
01:57:52,199 --> 01:57:54,399
beginning of? That was there any one aha moment and

2220
01:57:54,479 --> 01:57:56,079
all these great thinkers did happened for two thousand and?

2221
01:57:56,079 --> 01:57:58,079
Eight was it after that came? Up OVER i know many,

2222
01:57:58,159 --> 01:58:00,760
Years but when did you actually, realize, hey, something something

2223
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:01,880
new has got to be? Developed, yeah that's?

2224
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:02,279
Speaker 1: Great is?

2225
01:58:02,359 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 2: That because, Again i'm privileged enough to have people around

2226
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,279
me who've given lots of philanthropic gifts to institutions of higher.

2227
01:58:09,359 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Learning and WHEN i, said oh, wow that's so, sweet

2228
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,840
everybody was just so giving and there's so much charity

2229
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:19,760
and philanthropy and is you know what better cover for

2230
01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:25,680
Blow feld level crime villains than international? Charity?

2231
01:58:26,079 --> 01:58:34,039
Speaker 2: Right the impact have you? Judge how do you judge

2232
01:58:34,039 --> 01:58:37,800
the impact of your giving? Thing and we sat down and, said, no,

2233
01:58:38,399 --> 01:58:40,800
really new ideas have come out AND i realized that

2234
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:42,680
of course it hasn't come out because we've been looking

2235
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,399
at using science and mathematics and it's the wrong.

2236
01:58:45,439 --> 01:58:49,119
Speaker 5: Tool it's obvious institutions that are set up and try

2237
01:58:49,159 --> 01:58:52,800
to put forward knowledge and understanding and. Truth should they

2238
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:53,079
take your.

2239
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:58,359
Speaker 2: Money Derek bock At harvard said taking money for good

2240
01:58:58,439 --> 01:58:59,319
causes is a good.

2241
01:58:59,359 --> 01:59:02,319
Speaker 5: Thing so If, hitler If hitler took all the gold

2242
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:04,399
of the teeth of The jews and SAID i want

2243
01:59:04,399 --> 01:59:06,479
to give this To Heidelberg university to fund the leading

2244
01:59:06,479 --> 01:59:09,119
it's chairs so THAT i can study high energy, Physics

2245
01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:10,159
Derek bark would say that was.

2246
01:59:10,159 --> 01:59:14,279
Speaker 2: Fine, again it's these questions of questions where good people

2247
01:59:14,319 --> 01:59:17,319
on both, sides like You, charlottesville could. DIFFER i DON'T

2248
01:59:17,359 --> 01:59:18,079
i don't know the, Answer so.

2249
01:59:18,399 --> 01:59:20,039
Speaker 5: Tell, us tell us to give us the two, answers

2250
01:59:20,279 --> 01:59:21,640
the one answer why it shouldn't, be and then the

2251
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:23,520
one answer For Derek box, Says i'll take essentially take

2252
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,079
cash from anybody BECAUSE i got so many, projects so

2253
01:59:25,079 --> 01:59:26,239
many good. Guys in this, Way i'll do it So

2254
01:59:26,399 --> 01:59:28,359
i'm indifferent to where the cash. Comes with money's, money

2255
01:59:28,439 --> 01:59:30,039
and IF i got good, Guys i'm the. Producer he,

2256
01:59:30,039 --> 01:59:31,399
says these are good. People this is a good. Research,

2257
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,760
Okay i'll take the cash from, however from any, sources including.

2258
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:36,960
You what's the other ARGUMENT i let me give you

2259
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,439
THAT i know in my, case is your money dirty?

2260
01:59:39,479 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 2: Money if you live it might just ask a.

2261
01:59:41,079 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 5: Questions your money dirty?

2262
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:42,399
Speaker 2: Money, no it's not.

2263
01:59:43,079 --> 01:59:46,359
Speaker 1: So in, fact, okay it's not. Dirty it's all. Clean

2264
01:59:46,439 --> 01:59:49,600
it's all above. Board we're very moral around. Here snail,

2265
01:59:50,079 --> 01:59:54,319
snigglebees jay you don't Understand jaye is filling the gigantic

2266
01:59:54,359 --> 01:59:57,760
clown shoes That steve is putting in front of. Him

2267
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:04,760
Peter bimess two, Dollars jeffrey epsteonage until wilds five dollars a.

2268
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:08,680
Day where Did epstein get his money? From just the? Island? Uh,

2269
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,039
well if you Read Whitney webb's, book she's got two

2270
02:00:12,119 --> 02:00:15,680
or three chapters where she puts forth various theories as

2271
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,560
to where he might have gotten money or been a money.

2272
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:23,680
Manager BUT i don't know that anybody knows one percent for.

2273
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:27,439
Sure it's kind of theorized unless somebody has sort of

2274
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:31,840
dug through the files and found something explaining exactly what

2275
02:00:32,119 --> 02:00:33,279
was going on in terms of money.

2276
02:00:33,319 --> 02:00:36,119
Speaker 2: Management why is it not dirty money BECAUSE i earned it?

2277
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 5: Hot but you earned. It went back to this before

2278
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,720
you earned. It you earned it advising the worst people

2279
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:45,920
in the, world right that do enormous bad. Things, uh

2280
02:00:46,079 --> 02:00:46,680
and just to make more.

2281
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 2: Money so instead of asking me the, question should you

2282
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,600
take the? Money BECAUSE i think it's a legitimate. Question

2283
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:52,079
if you think it's a.

2284
02:00:52,079 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 1: Legitimate, ah when he got, pinned he's about to do.

2285
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,840
It what about he's about to do a two quoke

2286
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,680
way yes.

2287
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,239
Speaker 2: In the watch BECAUSE i think ABOUT i think that you.

2288
02:01:02,319 --> 02:01:04,199
Have ethics is always a complicated. Subject BUT i can

2289
02:01:04,239 --> 02:01:06,319
tell you that with the MONEY i gave to help

2290
02:01:06,399 --> 02:01:09,680
try to eradicate polio In, Okay so Like.

2291
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: Bill, gates he's a philanthropist eugenicist to help eradicate Polio

2292
02:01:14,279 --> 02:01:14,880
pakistan In.

2293
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 2: India instead of asking me whether that money was should

2294
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,239
be given to these children for, VACCINES i think you

2295
02:01:20,319 --> 02:01:22,439
might want to ask their mothers who received.

2296
02:01:22,439 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 1: Them, oh, now where have we seen this line of? Argumentation?

2297
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:30,680
Oh Sam? Harris oh you want to question? Atheism what

2298
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:34,159
about that child that's crying right, now that was bombed

2299
02:01:34,199 --> 02:01:38,319
by a? Terrorist what about? That what about this emotional? Appeal,

2300
02:01:38,479 --> 02:01:43,439
so when asked what do you think ethically about providing

2301
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:48,880
financial services for the worst people in the. World he

2302
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,520
does the two, Quoteue, well how about you tell me

2303
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:54,800
about the mothers whose children were saved BY i, mean

2304
02:01:55,079 --> 02:01:56,119
this is so silly.

2305
02:01:56,159 --> 02:01:58,319
Speaker 2: The vaccine who know that child now won't get? Polio

2306
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:01,000
and ask them IF ee should have helped these?

2307
02:02:01,039 --> 02:02:05,159
Speaker 1: People, yeah immediate virtue, signaling which is a huge uh red.

2308
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 2: Flag if we want if.

2309
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:09,239
Speaker 5: We want in a fast you're a you're a. Mathematician

2310
02:02:09,279 --> 02:02:11,319
we walked into that clinic where they're giving that money

2311
02:02:11,359 --> 02:02:13,119
out to these people that are the most distrates of

2312
02:02:13,119 --> 02:02:15,920
poverty and, sickness and told them that the money was

2313
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:16,680
coming from a what are?

2314
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 2: You class?

2315
02:02:17,039 --> 02:02:17,479
Speaker 5: Three sexual?

2316
02:02:17,479 --> 02:02:18,439
Speaker 2: Predator tier?

2317
02:02:18,479 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 5: One what's Your? Tier one's the highest and? Worst, know the,

2318
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:22,279
lowest the. Lowest you're the Lost kate tier? One you're the.

2319
02:02:22,319 --> 02:02:24,920
Lowest what a criminal is that the money came?

2320
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 4: To?

2321
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 5: Then what what percentage of people do you? ESTIMATE i

2322
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:28,960
understand you only probably those do you? Estimate would SAY

2323
02:02:29,079 --> 02:02:30,079
i don't, CARE i want the money for my.

2324
02:02:30,159 --> 02:02:31,880
Speaker 2: CHILDREN i would, say everyone SAID i want the money

2325
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:32,000
for my.

2326
02:02:32,079 --> 02:02:33,119
Speaker 5: Children did they know where the money came?

2327
02:02:33,119 --> 02:02:33,279
Speaker 9: From?

2328
02:02:33,359 --> 02:02:34,840
Speaker 2: IFF i think if you told them ABOUT i call

2329
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:37,000
them the devil hundredercent the devil, themself the devil.

2330
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: M k me x five. Dollars did you see the

2331
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:44,800
notes from the cell? Speculation they read like what is

2332
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:48,199
needed to escape and get? OUT i don't. KNOW i

2333
02:02:48,279 --> 02:02:51,520
just don't know how much you'll put into you, know

2334
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,720
cellmate testimony and that kind of stuff is very kind

2335
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:55,439
of suspicious.

2336
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,439
Speaker 2: Stuff, Said i'm going to exchange some dollars because you told's.

2337
02:02:58,479 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 5: Life do you think you're the devil? Themself?

2338
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 2: No, no BUT i do have a good.

2339
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 5: Mirror it's a serious. Question, sorry do you think you're

2340
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:04,800
the devil?

2341
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:06,319
Speaker 2: SELF i, know why would you say?

2342
02:03:06,319 --> 02:03:08,439
Speaker 5: That because you have all the. Attributure you're incredibly. Smart

2343
02:03:08,439 --> 02:03:10,399
you remember the devil. Is somebody knows what the devil's.

2344
02:03:10,439 --> 02:03:12,279
Brilliant you Read Milton's you Read Milton's Paradise.

2345
02:03:12,319 --> 02:03:13,319
Speaker 2: Loss, no the devil scares.

2346
02:03:13,359 --> 02:03:16,199
Speaker 5: Me satan. Is satan is the is the he is

2347
02:03:16,279 --> 02:03:19,279
the he is at the number one or two. Archangel

2348
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,039
and the reason he goes To hell and leaves the

2349
02:03:22,119 --> 02:03:24,279
rebellion is because he can't be the top. Guy and

2350
02:03:24,399 --> 02:03:25,880
his thing Is i'd Rather i'd rather reign in hell

2351
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:26,319
than serve in.

2352
02:03:26,359 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 2: HEAVEN i saw that in a movie once Called American.

2353
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,600
DOMA i don't remember who said. It, okay we have

2354
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:32,039
to go called the What?

2355
02:03:32,279 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 1: American?

2356
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:33,439
Speaker 9: What what do you?

2357
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:34,399
Speaker 2: Say what was the?

2358
02:03:34,479 --> 02:03:39,279
Speaker 1: Movie i'm over here trying to Get epstein movie. Recommendations,

2359
02:03:39,359 --> 02:03:43,159
now what's? That y'all Saw epstein's playlist. Too when somebody found,

2360
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:44,760
that like his iPod play it was a such a

2361
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:46,319
weird ask, me is that you wouldn't? Expect? So what

2362
02:03:46,479 --> 02:03:46,600
was the?

2363
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 5: Movie serious? Question do you think you're the devil's?

2364
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 2: SELF i don't know why would you say?

2365
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:56,840
Speaker 5: That because you have all the, attributure you're incredibly. Smart

2366
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:59,720
you remember the devil. Is somebody knows what The Devil's

2367
02:04:00,479 --> 02:04:02,640
you Read, Milton's you Read Milton's Paradise.

2368
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:04,079
Speaker 2: Lost the devil scares.

2369
02:04:04,159 --> 02:04:08,479
Speaker 5: Me satan, Is satan, is the is the he is

2370
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:15,319
the he is at the number one or, Two and

2371
02:04:15,399 --> 02:04:19,319
the reason he goes To hell and leaves the rebellion

2372
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,359
is because he can't be the top. Guy and his

2373
02:04:22,479 --> 02:04:24,720
thing Is i'd Rather i'd rather reign in hell than

2374
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:25,119
serve in.

2375
02:04:25,159 --> 02:04:28,439
Speaker 2: HEAVEN i saw that in a movie once Called The American.

2376
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:29,479
DOMA i don't Even.

2377
02:04:31,159 --> 02:04:37,359
Speaker 1: American. Dharma that's. Weird what is that we over here Getting.

2378
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:41,560
Epstein he's gone Full ciskel And ebert over. Here it's

2379
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:45,800
It's epstein And ebert over, Here ciskel And, Epstein american.

2380
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:58,319
Dharma oh is this he was making a dumb joke

2381
02:04:58,479 --> 02:05:12,479
because that's a bandon movie movie About, Bannon Errol morris's

2382
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:21,600
documentary About. Bannon it's Certain bannon as. Qualities, Okay, ANYWAY

2383
02:05:22,279 --> 02:05:24,359
i thought that was gonna be some kind of actually interesting.

2384
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:31,159
Movie but that doesn't look that. Interesting there was another

2385
02:05:31,199 --> 02:05:36,000
super chat. Here what do you estimate HIS iq? IS

2386
02:05:39,439 --> 02:05:41,359
i don't, KNOW i would GET i, mean if you're

2387
02:05:41,399 --> 02:05:47,760
being serious on A wexler, scale he's probably one twenty,

2388
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,479
one twenty five, MAYBE i don't. Know what do you guys?

2389
02:05:51,520 --> 02:06:00,720
Think all? Right, uh we went full on all. Night

2390
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,680
thank you. Guys everybody have a good.

2391
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:07,359
Speaker 4: Night mm hmm

