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Speaker 6: Welcome everybody, good morning, here we go. It is that
time again. Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from
the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM
and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Little icy out there, so
be careful if you're driving, if you're listening in your vehicle,
but nonetheless Glorious here. Of course, today is Saturday, February one,
twenty twenty five, and January will pretty quick actually, But
as far as the weather goes here in Manchester, we've
been lucky. We have yet to have a blizzard, and
I hope I have not drinxed us by pointing that out.
But it's always just enough snow and ice to make
it a nuisance. But we haven't had like a really
big storm here yet, so which is just fine with me.
But that opening track that was a band called now,
I'm not actually sure the correct pronunciation. It's it's all
in caps ri i v Ia, so I'm not sure
if it's Rivia or Rivia or Rivia. We will find
out because they will be skyping in next week. But
that is the American radio premiere of their brand new
track Fallen and I love that song and really looking
forward to talking with these guys. But they are from
Liverpool and they're gonna be skyping in next week, so
we'll get to talk to them and we'll play some
more of their music and really looking forward to that.
I love their sound and so much great stuff coming
out of the UK. These great guests that we get,
and our friend from Gary from Big GPR has really
been sending us a lot of great talent for the show,
so we appreciate that and being able to kind of
be the American radio partner for some of these bands
as far as breaking their tracks over here in the US,
being the first American radio station to play some of these.
So yeah, what a great track again, that's called Fallin'
the band is I'm gonna go with Rivia for right now,
but we'll find out for sure next week. But what
a great track. We'll play that again later in the
show if you missed it. We've got a big show
for you today. In just a few minutes, Molly Diago
is going to be skyping in. She's been on the
show before, but she's got a brand new single called Chained,
and we are going to play that for you in
just a couple of minutes. Chained featuring Jackson Wilder is
also on the track, so we're gonna play that. We'll
feature that, and then we'll talk to Molly a bit.
And in the second hour today, the band Day to
Attend will be here with us in studio. And of course,
if you're watching online, if you're watching the video, you
can see I've got my Day to Attend shirt. Of course,
So a couple big things with them. For one thing,
they've got a big show tonight. They're gonna be playing
in Portland opening for Ace Frayle, So that's exciting. And
in addition to that, I assume they're going to bring
a copy in with them their vinyl limited edition vinyl
release of their newest album, Falling Awake, and it is
limited edition, so if you want one, make sure you
get one before they're gone. But I think that's really
cool and I look forward to to actually seeing that,
being able to see it up close. But so they've
got a lot going on, of course, such a great band,
and I always love having a day to attend on
the show. And in the third hour today we have
Veil's End who's going to be joining us live in studio,
and they have a brand new song too, so we'll
feature that as well. So there's lots going on today.
Speaking of things going on, I also want to mention
and hello to Charles Richardson if he's listening. Hi, Charles.
I did communicate with him earlier. So this coming Monday,
I'm going to be appearing on the Charles Richardson Show
that streams online. You can go to the Charles Richardson
Show Facebook page or his YouTube page for the Charles
Richardson Show. You can also go it streams on an
online station called Powerweadio dot com and it's power and
the Number one radio dot com, so you can stream
it there as well. But we're going to be talking
about hypnosis. We've been talking about doing this for a
long time. I've been on the show before, obviously, and
he's been on this show, but we've never done a
segment together about hypnosis. So he's going to ask me
some questions and perhaps I will even hypnotize him live
during his program. For those of you who don't know,
I am a certified hypnotherapist. I help people to quit smoking,
lose weight, deal with phobios, all kinds of stuff I do,
all kinds of things. Stress reduction is a stress reduction
is a big one right now. But of course if
you want more information on that, you can always go
to my website, Matt Connorton dot com. But yes, I
will be talking with Charles on his show. His show
starts at eight pm. I will be joining at eight
ten pm Eastern time. So again you can go the
Charles Richardson Show Facebook or YouTube page or listen at
Power one radio dot com. So that'll be cool. Charles
and I haven't done anything together in terms of a
show in a long time. I know that Charles Richardson
show went away for a little bit. He took a hiatus,
but he's back and it is very exciting. So there
is a lot going on, but I think what we're
going to do now, we'll go ahead and give this
a spin. So this is the brand new track from
our friend Molly Diago. I like this a lot. It's
very very catchy. It is called Chained and Jackson Wilder
featuring Jackson Wilder also on the track. And by the way,
if you go to Molly's YouTube channel, you can see
everything that she's got. We played. I think we were
one of the first stations to play it. Actually, way
back when we first met Molly. Her track End of
the World, which is such a cool song. Maybe we'll
play that at the end of our conversation today, but
I'm looking forward to speaking with her. She's gonna be
skyping in in just a few minutes. But let's go
ahead and play this. This is really good.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The track is called Chained featuring Jackson Wilder, and this
is Molly Diago.
Speaker 1: She's a Higher the Knights.
Speaker 7: And never and live and then you know you call
friends that they live on inside.
Speaker 4: You're surfin yourgin yeldings the shames which you drive down
your se versus. You do whatever you.
Speaker 11: To find.
Speaker 2: You find your own chronalyzing you conceal, They find you
find your own brain.
Speaker 4: Nothing else.
Speaker 7: For the last height your hunting from the parts.
Speaker 6: This is how it has you been.
Speaker 4: Change you in your tearses, change.
Speaker 1: The truth in perhaps beneath your staying, your search for home.
Speaker 4: Mother ws goes you, your goes through, keep you a
rush huts across beneath your veins.
Speaker 2: You tell your.
Speaker 4: Mama to love her. It's in Vaine to surfuse bee
how God b.
Speaker 9: Whatever you be.
Speaker 4: To find you find your own bird.
Speaker 2: Chronalyzing you conceal, They find you find your own brain,
nothing else.
Speaker 7: The last hat you're hunting, Parma pats, this is Hormard.
Speaker 4: Has to be change your tears. You with the big
blog now to win the fighters don't work.
Speaker 12: Like the shot a big.
Speaker 4: Cold.
Speaker 2: Whatever you really to find, you find your bad from
the lage you consume.
Speaker 6: They find you'll.
Speaker 2: Find your own brain, nothing else.
Speaker 7: The last hat you're hunting, parma pads, this is Horvid has.
Speaker 4: To be changed.
Speaker 9: You are tears.
Speaker 4: Change d.
Speaker 6: Does that catchy or what that has changed. That is
Molly Diago, who is here with us via Skype. Hi, Molly, Hey, Matt,
how are you very good? Very good? Hey, I'm never
sure with your last name. I know we've had this
conversation before. Do you say Diago or Diego?
Speaker 10: Diago is just fine either way.
Speaker 4: I've been doing.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, very good. Because of course you also have
a much longer version of your name that people might
find online with your with your music. But what a
great track. What's that?
Speaker 10: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for spinning it.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely absolutely, I love it. And that is of
course featuring Jackson Wilder. Can you tell us about that collaboration?
And who is Jackson Wilder?
Speaker 11: So, Jackson Wilder is he's actually a kid. He's only
fourteen years old. He sounds like like a grown man
on the track. But he's a kid that's you know,
sort of been a family friend of mine and he's
always sort of taken an interest in music, and I
you know, one day he had a snow day from
school when I was going into the studio to record
this track, and there was a little space on the
song where I didn't have a bridge written yet, so
I asked him, I said, hey, do you want to,
you know, see what it's like. And he surprisingly he
said okay, and he just went right on and did
his thing, and then there's the song. You know, So
it's kind of weird how it worked out, but it's
all thanks to a snow day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, very cool. So that must be exciting for him,
right to see that, you know, chain featuring Jackson Wilder,
that must be pretty cool.
Speaker 11: Definitely, he was, he was, really, he's really excited, and
he he got to participate in some of the press process,
which I think was a little you know, overwhelming, especially
at that age.
Speaker 10: But sure, he loves it. He's really excited.
Speaker 11: And of course to hear his song on the radio
even just now, you know, wmnh, he loves it listening.
And of course, you know, I have to remind myself
what it's like to be, you know, that age and
how exciting things are.
Speaker 10: And I think that working way that kid, you know.
Speaker 11: Has kind of helped me restore of what I've taken
for granted, you know, in this process of music and
you know, try to enjoy every second of it.
Speaker 10: Oh.
Speaker 6: Very cool. Uh Yeah, I'm curious about that. You know,
you you mentioned you know, kind of taking things for
granted in this process of music. Does it are there
times in your career where it feels maybe a little
too much like a job and not as exciting artistically?
Do do you fall into that rut sometimes?
Speaker 11: Yeah, because and honestly, I didn't realize it just how
much until recently, because I think that, you know, when
I started out, and I was I was actually fourteen
when I started as well, and I remember that I've
opportunity I got. It was like you know, Christmas Eve
every single night until it happened. I remember my first
big gig was with the All American Rejects, and I
remember I literally when I found out about it, like
thirtys where I couldn't.
Speaker 10: Sleep that whole month. I was so excited.
Speaker 11: And so recently, like you know, especially releasing my own
music now and not sort of playing in a band
as a guitar player, like the first release kind of
went the same way too, five or six years ago
when I started. But I've sort of realized that I've
kind of fallen into habit, and you know, it's somewhere
along the line I've kind of lost that excitement, and
it made me sad, you know, because if I was
telling fourteen year old me what I'm doing now, I'd
be like so excited. So I think that this single especially,
I really had to take a step back and say, listen,
like this is a dream, right, and not every person
in the world gets to do what I'm doing. Not
every person in the world gets streamed by you know,
WMNH and so on and so forth.
Speaker 10: So I definitely have had to.
Speaker 11: Take a step back and say, listen, like you do
this because you love it, Like try to enjoy it, you.
Speaker 6: Know, right right. I'm really curious about the song. The
lyrics to the song. Clearly there there does seem to
be a theme here, and there's there's a couple of
things I could kind of derive from it. But I'm
really curious, uh, I mean, is there is there a
story behind these lyrics? Is are they directed at anyone specific?
Is it more just a state of the world thing?
I mean, tell me, tell me about the lyrics have
chained So.
Speaker 11: I feel like every songwriter, despite what they say, there's
always some sort of inspiration, you know, whether you hear
cool word and sort of want to build off that
there's always something that you know is in the background.
Speaker 10: And for me, I had an experience with this person, a.
Speaker 11: Person who is very close to me, who unfortunately I
haven't even spoke to this person in two years, because
you know, for various sort of components that happen when.
Speaker 10: You know you're dealing with addiction.
Speaker 11: So I think the song for me specifically, and I
was putting it together although like I wasn't, you know,
emotionally high off those feelings maybe I was two years ago,
definitely had to do with feeling and I think it
doesn't even just have to be addictioned, but I mean,
I know all of us have relationships in life where
you know, sometimes whether you're dealing with a narcissist or
someone you know who's fighting addiction issues or just you know,
a nasty person. The feeling of being shut out and
then sort of taking control of her own life and
stepping away, which took me ten years to do, really
it was empowering, and so I think that's kind of
where the song was going for me, just hopefully, and
I don't even know if the person will ever hear it,
but I think that it's important, you know, for people
to also think about how their actions have reactions in
other people's lives.
Speaker 10: So sorry, that's kind of a convoluted way of getting
to the point.
Speaker 11: But at the root, it's just about, you know, dealing
with someone who's you know and not themselves. And of
course it's a tough, a tough thing to sort of navigate.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very difficult when you know, when you're dealing
with someone with addiction who you know, if it's someone
you love and you care about, but at a certain point,
you know, and it depends. I mean, there's a lot
of factors. I mean, I have a caffeine addiction, but
I don't think that all time. Yeah, yeah, and I
think most Americans do statistically from what I've read, but
I don't. I don't think that really changes us as people.
But there are some things you can be addicted to
that really kind of change who you are as a person,
and they alter your personality or they make you I
shouldn't say make you. That's disempowering, but they they cause
a person to behave in ways that they would not
have maybe when you first got to know them. So
if you if you have someone in your life who
you love and you care about, and then at some
point this other thing comes in that sort of takes
control of them. Now you're dealing with you know, you've
got this person you love, but it's like they're not
all there anymore because this other thing is kind of
taken over a part of them. And yeah, that's that's tough.
Speaker 10: Like it sounds like you know what I was going through.
Speaker 11: So and I mean I and it's unfortunate, you know,
if you do, because it's hard because exactly right what
you said, like, you know, the person that I that
I met was completely different, and so I think you
kind of drag yourself through the weeds trying to find
that person again. But in reality, there's nothing that you
can do, like they like. And I always thought it
was cliche because I love the show Intervention, you know,
I'd watch it all the time when it came out,
I don't five or fifteen years ago now, and they'd
always say, listen, you have to want it, and I
thought that was again cliche.
Speaker 10: But it's not.
Speaker 11: If the person does not believe that they're living in
this alternate reality, it just in there's nothing you can do.
And so it took me years to be able to
let it go that that person that I knew isn't
there anymore, and until he wants to change, you know,
it's just not going to happen.
Speaker 10: So I think it's hard.
Speaker 11: And like I said, Matt, the way you described that,
I feel like maybe you've sort of gone through.
Speaker 10: Something smaller and can relate to it. But it's tough. Yeah,
it's tough seeing that.
Speaker 11: And so again, music is just you know, an outlet,
is a creative person that I can kind of share
those stories, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think what I mean as I think
of examples where I, yeah, I may have maybe able
to relate to it. I think the theme here is
very relatable. I think a lot of people have been
through that or or a lot of people also have
been on the side of you know, they they were
addicted to something, and you know, because obviously, you know,
we have a lot of musicians on the show, A
lot of musicians struggle with addiction and some of the
actually I am thinking of somebody specific who we've had
on who talked about how his alcoholism. I don't know
if you know the band The Gray Curtain. Dennis Layton
from The Gray Curtain, great band, and Dennis is a
great guy, but he was. He was on the show
talking about so I'm not telling any tales out of school.
He was talking about it on the show. He was
he was talking about how, you know, with his alcoholism,
which he has overcome, he's now recovering, but how that
pushed people away and that's what a lot of his
music is about, and how he in fact, he talked
on the show about how he had a he had
a long term relationship with someone who ended up leaving
him because he had the way he put it, I
remember he used these almost exact words, he said, because
he had become someone else other than the person who
he was when they first met. He had become a
man who he did not recognize himself, and so she
had to go. And so I think this is I
think it's a very relatable theme. I think a lot
of people have been on one side or the other
of this, or or even both sides at various points
in their life.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, one hundred percent. And like I think, of course,
this person that I was doing was also a musician.
And the hard part about it's just hard because if
you're an empathetic person or an unpathed, like it's again
everything you want to do to try and fix them,
to make them feel better, because you know that they're
not living a healthy life, you know. And I think
that you sort of translate that weight onto you, yes,
and it caused chaos in your own life, you know.
So I mean, but it's good that I guess in
that story, it's it's amazing that he could reflect on that.
And that's all that I hope one day is that
this person, eventually when he comes to light, like, can
reflect on hey, like Molly cared about me, she was
a good person, like, because you know, it gets it
gets nasty, like when they just don't want to feel like,
you know, anything is wrong or they're doing anything wrong,
because nobody wants to feel that way, right, but yeah,
you don't want to feel like they're hurting someone else.
And it's tough because then they sort of make you
the criminal, you know. So I don't know, it's a
crazy of emotions when dealing with that. But it's great
for him that he was able to reflect on that
and actually tell the story as it, you know, was accurate.
Speaker 10: And I hope that for this person as well.
Speaker 11: And of course with any two musicians that have like,
you know, creative energy, and of course we're sometimes not
the most controlled personalities. A lot comes out, you know,
it's tough. It's definitely a tough thing for you know,
musicians creatives like and I would.
Speaker 6: Uh, I would just uh add two for anyone who's
who's going through that where you have someone in your
life who's addicted and you know you may you may
love them, but you're not your love for them and
you're caring for them. You're not obligated to let them
drag you down with them if that's what's happening. But
also if you're just sticking around, you're not necessarily helping
them long term either, if you're just kind of sticking
around and putting up with it, because they're never going
to get better until they as as you alluded to,
until they want to change. And one of the ways
that people arrive at that conclusion that they need to
change is when people start leaving and you know, maybe
they lose somebody who is really important to them, maybe
they lose enough people where they start to go, Okay,
now I need to change. Because you're right, you can't
make them want to do it. They have to want
to do it. I tell clients that with you know,
I'm a hypnotherapist and when I deal with a lot
of people who want to quit smoking, and I pay
very close attention to the language that they use. If
someone comes to me and says, you know, I really
want to quit and here's why. Great. But if somebody
comes to me and they say, well, you know, I
guess I kind of want to quit because my spouse
or my kids or whoever they want me to quit,
It's like, well, no, I can't. I can't help you
if you're doing it for somebody else. I can only
help you if you're doing it for you, because you
know you're you're never going to be as motivated to
do it for somebody else.
Speaker 11: And you have to want to change, right, And like
that's the hardest thing to understand as someone who's the
one you know that's sort of on the other side
of it, you know, is that if they don't want
to change, you can only you can keep dragging yourself
down to the end of time. And I can't tell
you how many friends over that ten year span told
me like, what are you doing? But like, when you're
living it and you've seen that, you know how good
this person can be. Like again, you just keep fighting.
But and it was the hardest thing I've ever had
to do, I think in my life, maybe to cut
this person off. But once I was able to do that,
I was able to stop aside and see that again,
everything you're saying is hundred percent right.
Speaker 10: If he's not wanting to push forward that change, Like
what am I going to do? You know?
Speaker 11: And if I didn't get it done in seven years
or eight years or whatever, Like you know, when am
I going to wake up and say, hey, this is
causing you chaos in your life and people that you.
Speaker 10: Love because you're getting dragged out.
Speaker 11: But this person, you know, and some of it, some
of what happened to me, and this person was also
quite public, so that was sort of another element of
the drama. But like, you know, the best thing you
can do for yourself, if you are listening and going
through this is cut the chord. It's not hard, it's
not easy, excuse me, but you know it'll be one
of the best things that you can do to preserve yourself,
especially if you've given this person, you know, years of
your life trying to get back to it unless they
want it. Like you said, it's not all you're going
to do is you know, more heartbreak for yourself. And
it's not selfish to think that either, because I thought
it was selfish too for a long time.
Speaker 10: But it's not. You have to self preserve at some point.
Speaker 6: Now, right exactly now. In terms of writing the song,
was this a difficult song to write? Or was it
cathartic for you to write this? Or or I mean,
how did you feel in writing the lyrics to this
because obviously this is this comes from a very personal place.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 11: I mean it's definitely cathartic, you know a little bit.
For me, it always becomes more cathartic when I'm able
to actually get in the booth, you know, and sing it,
because when you're singing for a recording like and I'll
never forget this ID.
Speaker 10: I was working with a guy from mushroom Head.
Speaker 11: For a while, the singer while XT singer now, and
he gave me some really good advice. He went into
the studio with me one day years ago and I
was kind of laying down lines and he's like, bro,
like you're not selling it, Like you're not selling me anything.
He's like, until you put emotion into it, like, you're
not selling me anything. He's like, you can sing the
same line over and over again, but if you're not
feeling every single word, like as a listener on board,
you know, it could be the best song in the world,
but if you're not selling it right. So Ever, since
I've had that advice, every line that I put in
the studio, I am thinking, how does this make me feel?
Speaker 10: How can I bring emotion to it?
Speaker 11: So writing is one thing, because it's words on paper,
but actually singing it and you know, wanting to try
to get it to the point that it's you know,
gonna be sellable to an audience that's going to hopefully
listen to it over and over again.
Speaker 10: That is really when it hits, you.
Speaker 6: Know, absolutely absolutely. Let's see, I just want to say
hi to a few people in the chat room. Grim
Rock is in there, of course, one of our great
friends from Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh specifically a great musician. Also Jay Fed,
our friend from Vermont, Jenny is in the chat room
of course. Also I see Scott, Arthur McCullough and Molly.
Speaker 4: What else have you been up to?
Speaker 6: It's it's been. I want to say, it's been probably
a year and a half since you've been on the show.
What have you been Have you been touring, have you
just been focused on recording studio tracks, or what have
you been doing?
Speaker 13: Sure?
Speaker 14: So, I.
Speaker 11: Honestly a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
I did get to do some shows, I think since
the last time I saw you. I have a wonderful
booking agent who sent me to a couple of cool
cities down south, and we've of course been in the
studio you know, here and there. But it's funny, my
life has kind of and I think this was back
to meet taking music for granted a little bit. I
started getting into I have a nonprofit organization right now,
and what we do is we help racehorses sort of
transition into life after racing so they're not ending up
in a bad place like a kill pen or slaughter
you know thing whatever. Yeah, and horses are very much
a summer activity. And it's hard because touring is also
very much a summer activity, at least in my life,
because I'm not interested in sort of judging around in
the snow anymore.
Speaker 6: But uh, don't blame you, so honestly.
Speaker 10: Like it's been a very very busy life of both.
Speaker 11: Sort of managing a nonprofit of course I'm a lawyer
in career as well, and also trying to you know,
fit in some music. So that's kind of why we've
been putting out singles, is just because you know, it's
been so busy to try and like, you know, sort
of fit an element.
Speaker 10: Into all of it. So it's been a little of
this little of that, you know.
Speaker 4: But how about you?
Speaker 11: What have you been up to on Facebook all the time? Yeah,
doing all kinds of new things. You look like you're
in a new studio since time I've seen you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we'll have to have you on in person
at some point so you can see this beautiful place. Yes,
we're in a new you know, and the where we
were at before was nice and everything, but yes, the
radio station has moved since then and we're in this
this this incredible building where everything is new and clean
and it's it's it's really nice here. So yeah, we'll
have to we'll have to get.
Speaker 10: You here at are you Are you still downtown area?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it depends on what you'd define as downtown.
There's actually been some debate about that across some of
the shows. But I think this is technically still considered
downtown because we're very close to Elm Street. So the
old place was on Elm Street.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 6: Now we're you know, we're a couple of blocks down
from Elm Street. But I think this is still technically
considered the downtown area. But it's great. The parking situation
is so much better, and it's you know, it's everything
here is. You know, they remodeled this building before we
moved in, and it's incredible. Yeah, you got to see it.
You got to see it. It's really nice.
Speaker 11: I would love to come in. Absolutely, I'm happy. If
you guys are happy, I'm happy. I had one of
my favorite shocks.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, thank you very much. I'm curious to
know more about this nonprofit. By the way, how long
how long ago did you start?
Speaker 13: That?
Speaker 6: Is this relatively new? Yeah?
Speaker 11: So, uh, it's just over a year old. And I've
had raceources my whole life. I've been heavy into race horses.
Not the kime that you think, not the like the
Kentucky Derby kind, but the kime that kind of has
like a cart. You know, they have the cart and
the driver. And actually there's quite a racing community not
too far from you in Maine and also in mass
so they're in Vermont actually so and honestly, I think
is it Somerset, New Hampshire is a town that Summer's
Worth or something also had a racetrack. So there's racetracks
all over New England that do this kind of cart
racing situation, and that's where I grew up in. So
recently we've had a really big situation where a lot
of those horses are ending up in bad situations because
a lot of them end up with the Amish after
they race.
Speaker 10: So the Amish will kind of of they treat them sort.
Speaker 11: Of like machinery. And you can't even hate on exits
their way of life, right, that's what they know. So okay,
But the problem is is the Amish when they're done
with them, if there's any use life to them, they'll
sell them to whoever will give them, you know, a dollar.
So a lot of those times there meat buyers, right,
so the meat buyers buy from the Amish, and then
what happens is these rescue groups have a chance to
intercept the horses. So because race horses are tattooed, we
can identify who they are. So the rescues go into
the kill pens before the horses ship for meat, you know,
and then they post every name online. So what happens
is is if you own one of those.
Speaker 10: Horses, all of a sudden, you're like, oh my god,
I have to save this horse.
Speaker 6: Oh wow.
Speaker 10: So it's kind of become of extortion.
Speaker 11: Because of course you don't want the horse to go
to slaughter, you know, that's your your boy maybe at
some point, right, but the back up the price ridiculously.
So if the kill buyers paying twenty five dollars for
the horse from the Amish, he's gonna sell it to
me for one thousand dollars because he knows.
Speaker 10: Emotionally, I don't want that horse to die, right right.
So that's a crisis.
Speaker 11: And so what I've sort of come up with is
if we can place horses and homes that are not
the Amish when they're done racing, hopefully we can cut
back on this problem. So that's what we've been doing
for the last year. We've done I think almost two
hundred and fifty adoptions in a year, so that's a lot.
Were very busy absolutely excited about that. And at the
same time, we also bring these horses to horse shows
and such just sort of get the mission out there.
Speaker 10: So it's super busy, but it's good work and you know,
I really enjoy it.
Speaker 11: It makes me, you know, feel happy and feel good about,
you know, doing something that hopefully is benefiting you know.
Speaker 10: Not only the people who are being extorted, but the horses.
You know, at the end of the day.
Speaker 6: Now, that's great that you're doing that so long. No,
that's that's wonderful. I'm glad. I'm glad to hear you
talk about that. That's that's fantastic, very positive. And at
two hundred and fifty horses you've saved, that's that's amazing.
So you're doing great work there.
Speaker 10: We're very busy.
Speaker 11: I'm very fortunate to have also a wonderful team who's
started volunteers and helps helps the trankey problem. Because it's
it's a lot of work, but I love it. It's
it's it's, like I said, something that makes me happy.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, absolutely, you mentioned too reminding us and
we've talked about it a little bit before. But you're
also an attorney, and are you are you Uh, do
you have a particular zone that you work in or
do you do entertainment law or.
Speaker 12: What do you do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
Speaker 11: I do a lot of entertainment stuff, mostly because those
are my friends.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Before I did the solo stuff like I did, I
was a guitarist, right, so I met a lot of
people being a guitar player and sort of floating around
to different bands and such. So because I met so
many people, the day I became an attorney all of
a sudden, like my phone is off the hook every day.
So I have a lot of bands that I that
I support now, which I'm happy to do it because again,
you know, that's the reason why I got into it,
and also sort of unexpected when I got out of
law school and I was sort of navigating, you know,
what I wanted to do.
Speaker 10: I also work a lot of nonprofit law.
Speaker 11: So that's another reason which kind of contributed to me
starting my own is because I knew, you know, I
know what it's like, and I knew the whole sort
of legality process, and you know, it made sense.
Speaker 10: So I do. I work a lot with nonprofits and
a lot with artists, so and I love it. Every
day is a new challenge, but you know, it keeps
us busy.
Speaker 6: It's so important too for musicians, as you know, to
protect themselves and to really you know, we've been talking,
Jenny and I sometimes on the show, if we have
a few minutes, we'll talk about we've been following very
closely Limp Biscuits lawsuit against Universal Music Group, and I
was commenting, how you know it's so important. Obviously there's
a lot of sharks in the industry, and there's a
lot of there's a lot of people who will or
big companies like UMG, who will try to take advantage
of you and try to take advantage of anybody that
they sign. And you know, I learned this term recently
spaghetti accounting, and I've been learning a lot. But but
we talked about the importance of before you sign anything,
have an entertainment lawyer, have somebody look at it before you,
you know, sign that deal, so you know exactly what
you're getting into, so that you don't end up in
a situation where you might think that you're owed a
lot of money, but then it turns out you signed
a deal where well, maybe you're actually not owed anything.
And it's so it's so important to have somebody look.
Speaker 10: At that.
Speaker 11: And that alone is literally a crisis. And one of
the things actually with the person who inspired the song
specifically really opened my eyes set because a lot of
my friends that I have a lot of them are
rockers from nineties, two thousands, and that was the peak
of the rock record deal as we know it, the
modern one. Yeah, so they were plucking these bands of
kids and they were sort of wrapping them up in
these record deals, but they would sort of disguise it
with giant advances. So if you take a group of
twenty year olds or twenty five ors whatever and say hey,
we're going to give you a quarter million dollars to
make a rock record, they're like, heck, yeah, I'm in,
you know, not thinking about anything else other than that.
But what they don't understand is also an advances alone, right,
so it's not even like and you have to spend it,
of course on these expenses, and then secondarily they're signing
their rights away to the end product. So we have
these guys who have like mega hits right from the
two thousands, especially nineties as well, that are not seeing
any of their money and a lot for a lot
of them that is money they can live off of, right,
especially a lot of them that are not in the
business anymore, Like now they're having to go molawans because
despite them having a hit that's still spun on lithium,
you know, and serious, it doesn't matter. And the other
thing that these labels were doing is they were putting
these sort of clawback clauses in that says, even if
you know, our rights expire after ten or fifteen years,
you have to be the ones to come claim them, right.
So seeing people who haven't been not that they have
been relevant, but they haven't been like as well off
as they were fifteen years ago. Trying to navigate or
figure out how to do this. You have to get
a friend's like accountant, you have to get lawyers, all
this thing, and then with what little money you have,
you're trying to fight a UMG. You know, you're trying
to fight a capital It's like they make it almost impossible.
So all of these people, it's really a travesty, you know.
And I see their Spotify's they're probably making ten grand
them they're not seeing any of it. Right over songs
that have been hit for twenty years and it's just
terrible because these people now have nothing.
Speaker 10: And a lot of.
Speaker 11: Times when you're signing these deals when you're twenty, you
miss out on a lot of life skills that every
other twenty year old's learning. How to balance a checkbook,
how to pay bills, how to do this, how to
do your taxes. They learn none of those skills. So
now you have these people who are thirty, you know,
forty fifty, who have no skills. They have no way
to collect a living off of all the work that
they've done, because again there's all these red you know,
sort of red tape and paper walls, and they're literally living,
you know, and swallowed. And that's why a lot of
them turn to things like drugs because you know, they're
also sort of facing this mental crisis of that one
time I was on top of the world and now
I'm at the bottom.
Speaker 10: Like dealing with that, it's difficult for them.
Speaker 11: So it's like a ginormous ball and especially if you're
you know, interested or involved in psychology of many, you know,
it's like a huge ball of trauma that explodes on
these people and they're forgotten.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And it's again wild because.
Speaker 11: They can turn on their car radio and their songs
still on twenty years later, and they're like literally living
in the car, you know, Like it's crazy, it's crazy.
But the whole situation, it takes advantage of these kids,
and they're still doing it today. I don't know to
what extent, but I know what they did. You know,
back before streaming was a thing, it was. It's terrible,
it's criminal, and Olympus Get is a great example. But
Olympus get It has the money and power to be
able to do something about it. So I'm really hoping
that you know, this sort of makes an example and
help set the record straight for all these people who
are getting screwed, you know, because it's terrible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is that anyways? Wood, No, that's great information. You know,
a lot of a lot of musicians listen to the show,
some of them young musicians just starting out, and a
lot of industry people listen. So this is important information.
Is that the number one mistake you see artists make
is signing a signing a record deal and they don't
know what they're getting into.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, And a lot of artists, a lot of my
friends especially you know that I grew up with who
you know, are I never had anything really big happen.
We'll say, uh, look, I just had one gentleman that
came to me a couple of days ago. He got
sort of sent a record deal by some unknown company,
and the terms were like almost ridiculous, like basically he
has to pay for everything. They get to keep all
the rights despite him paying for everything, but they'll give
him distribution, which distribution is important, but it's only important
if you're using a real distributor, and they weren't. So
I'm like, dude, you know, think And it's hard because
like I don't want to hurt this guy's feelings because
I'm like, this doesn't mean that you're bad.
Speaker 10: You know, this doesn't mean that you're not worth a
real record deal. But dude, what are you getting.
Speaker 11: You're up running all your costs and you're giving them
all your rights, like on its face, like you can't
do that, right, it's not worth it. And if someone's
willing to cut a deal like that, they don't know
what they're doing. So I said that it's not This
isn't worth the paper it's printed on, and you know,
so I get that a lot, and it's bad, you know,
because they're so excited and you have to rain on
their parade a little bit. But it's important to do
that because again, what if he has a hit right
like right, it'd be terrible or if you know, it's useless,
And I think that's the other thing is uh and
A sorry so many tangents, but a lot of these
small independent labels are sort of popping up out of
the woodwork, and it's just people who you know, want
to do it but don't know how are their means
Musicians that failed and if they don't have the tools
to you know, market your music, they're not it's not
worth it. Like they have to have distribution that's actually
worth something. A lot of small labels will sign on with,
like you know, Sony's distribution is called the Orchard active
distribution actively pushing your music, versus passive distribution like CD baby,
where anyone could pay nine dollars and your song will
pop up in Spotify tomorrow. You know, having a marketing
team having radio is not a radio agents, I suppose
is good as well as Spotify playlisters. You need to
sign with people who have something to give to you.
If you're giving them your product, they need to match
that contribution right with resources. So that's the most important
thing I think if any musicians are listening, you absolutely
have to, you know, be able to to sort of
do some due diligence and make sure that what you're
offering they're matching at right with with resources and services.
Speaker 6: Right absolutely, you know, And as you were saying, too,
you know, these nineties artists, early two thousands artists didn't
have some of the ways available to them to do
it the way you can do it now. Where now
you can you know, Top I don't know if you're
familiar with Top music attorney. She's a law tuber and
she specializes in this area, and she talks about how
you know, be your own record label. You know you
can do all this stuff DIY if you want.
Speaker 10: To, Yes, yes, that's my favorite topic of all times.
I want tangent on it.
Speaker 11: But that is one accurate and I think that that
sort of was the last piece of that conversation, is
that there's no sense in signing your life away when
you can basically it's called label services, right, you can
piece together your own team today and do everything label
would you kind of it?
Speaker 10: You have to pay for it.
Speaker 11: But the pro of it is if it works, then
you get to keep every penny that you make, you know,
to reinvest it, like you don't. Nobody needs able today,
not nobody. But of course it's just this, you know,
it's kind of like I don't know, like an old
lives tale. I guess that, oh, we want the big
record deal and whatnot, but you know, you know how it.
Speaker 6: Goes, Oh I do. And and if you build your
own team instead of using a label too, you retain
all the rights to your own music because you know,
I mean, we've all heard the horror stories too about
you know, somebody records an album for a record label
that they're signed to, and then the album gets shelved
because for whatever reason, the label doesn't want to release it,
and you've just put all this work into something that
now isn't even coming out. And those stories are are
plentiful and they're heartbreaking.
Speaker 10: They's terrible.
Speaker 11: And that's kind of the new trend with these labels
is they'll sign twenty people at once, have them all
produced content, and then one person will actually see the
light of day. The others the music is taken over
so you can't use it, and then you're dropped, so
you're like, basically you just lost to your life thing.
Speaker 10: You know, it's awful. But again, they're in the business
of making money.
Speaker 11: So if they think that's how they're going to do it,
that's what they're going to do, you know, And they
use their status to sort of push people around that way.
But you know, I if you can do it yourself,
and that's why having a career while you're pursuing music
is so important. If you can save some cash to
do it yourself, you're one hundred percent putting yourself in
a better position, you know, in my opinion, I agree.
Speaker 6: Uh, we have a question in the chat room. Grim
Rock is asking does Molly do things with trademarks and
word marks?
Speaker 10: Yes, I do all the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can imagine, Yeah I would. I would think
that that'd probably be a.
Speaker 11: It's important trade trademark your stuff, anything that you have
That'stellextual property, get it protected.
Speaker 10: That's the bus advice I can offer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Molly.
Speaker 7: We are.
Speaker 6: The time goes quickly, we're already approaching the top of
the hour, but I want to make sure I was
thinking about when we closed the segment, closing out with this.
The first song that we ever played of yours on
this show is End of the World, and I still
love that song. I was thinking I was thinking about
ending with that one, but and I love Chained is great,
absolutely great. But what what should people know about where
to find you online? And where's the best place to
go and where to keep up with everything that you're doing?
And I assume changed of course is on all the
streaming platforms and people can get access to that or
probably all your music, But what should what should people
know about in terms of how to find you online?
Speaker 11: Honestly, at Molly d Ago, I'm on every single thing.
I think, Come find me, come say hi. Thank you
so much for you know, listening to my music. Anyone
who's listening, Matt, thank you so much for having me
as usual. And a little funny thing about end of
the World. So End of the World was really my
first big song that I did on my own and
the first time I ever got to hear it on
the radio was actually right with you.
Speaker 10: So there's a video of me to it somewhere as well.
Speaker 11: So thank you so much for your support for people
like me, for all the other artists that you support.
Speaker 10: I really can't.
Speaker 11: I can't say how much it helps us, and I'm
always grateful every time that you pop up. So thank
you so so much, and I am so happy that
I got to chat with you on this release as well.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, Molly, thank you. I appreciate the kind words,
and we are are very happy to help and and
love what you're doing. Do you, by the way, any
kind of an eta yet on when the next single
might be or are you just focused on promoting Chained
right now? Are you working over the summer?
Speaker 10: Hopefully over the summer.
Speaker 11: We're not show yeah, I mean, everything's always in progress,
so I never really know, but hopefully the summer sometime
a few more months and we'll have in something else.
Some'm good and I'll have to stop in and see
the new.
Speaker 10: The new digs.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you got to see it. You got to
see it. It's beautiful here all right, Molly Diago, we
will let you go and we'll hit this track end
of the world. But thank you, thank you so much,
and uh yes, we will do this again soon.
Speaker 10: Awesome, Thanks guys, all right, thanks.
Speaker 6: Molly, take care, all right, the great Molly Diago and uh,
if you are listening, Live on Saturday. We have Day
to Attend coming up next. I gotta take a gulf
of water here because uh, I'm still I'm still coughing
from I was sick back in December, but so I apologize.
But uh, oh my goodness, all right, Uh you know
what it is, it's been this, this consistent dry air.
It's just so it's been so cold out here.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 6: For people in other parts of the country or other
parts of the world, I'll just tell you here in Manchester,
New Hampshire, it has been cold and dry and it's
making it very difficult to get past this cough. I
know I'm not the only one dealing with it, but uh,
that's for sure. But every every week I'm coughing a
little bit less. So we're getting there. We're getting there.
But if you are listening live on Saturday, Day to
Attend is gonna be with us. In the second hour,
I'm gonna go see if the guys are here. They're
probably here. But we will end this segment with this track,
another great song from Molly Diago. I love this. This
is called end of the World.
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