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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Were good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and

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<v Speaker 2>today with me is Dave Silver, the Affable. Dave's alffable affable, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and our guy Kobe.

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you cheering the game last night?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Great game.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll pull it out at the end. Did you have

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<v Speaker 2>any point think that it was not gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I thought the second and half collapse would

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<v Speaker 4>happen at a point, but they cut the lead, but

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<v Speaker 4>then they closed out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, Dave, Yeah, I was optimistic. It was.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of fun just to watch the game develop.

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<v Speaker 6>And they played so well in the first half. Shot

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<v Speaker 6>what sixty in the first half, so things were going

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<v Speaker 6>pretty well. But yeah, that second half, you know, with

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<v Speaker 6>like minutes to go, sometimes you're just wondering when are

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<v Speaker 6>they gonna be able to hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>They made the.

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<v Speaker 6>Run and they were able to, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 6>hold him off and hit some free throws down at

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<v Speaker 6>the end. So that was kind of nice to see

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<v Speaker 6>because that didn't happen against Houston, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, it was I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 6>They've got to be satisfied picking up, you know, a

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<v Speaker 6>victory and ending the losing streak and then looking forward

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<v Speaker 6>to coming home for.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of games. Finally, I was talking to Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>Were texting with Bruce this morning. She who's with the team?

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<v Speaker 2>No one's asked about that. Uh, that wrist injury of

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<v Speaker 2>kJ What it is? How serious it is? It's not

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<v Speaker 2>serious enough for him not to play?

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<v Speaker 3>But what is it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean he did just play seventeen minutes. He

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<v Speaker 6>had fouled troubles, so did Jayden last night. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 6>he seems to sometimes be favoring it. He'll grab you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>Ause he's walking off the court. I think there was

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<v Speaker 6>one shot where he was, you know, just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>hanging on kind of with his with his left hand,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, trying to make himself feel better. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 6>it's probably not something that's going to heal during the season.

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<v Speaker 6>It might be one of these you know, surgery type

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<v Speaker 6>situations or who knows, you know, who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>How badly he's hurt. I guess we have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from them. I'm going to ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 2>This little dated now, uh four days removed. So you

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<v Speaker 2>saw Houston saw did you see the postgame interviews?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean I've heard about them.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, everyone's talking about Tommy and his comments about

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<v Speaker 6>doing ki.

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<v Speaker 3>Who asked that question?

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<v Speaker 2>Or it was a random It was a random question,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So I asked a question and then he

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<v Speaker 2>went down gentle and he went to there. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>looked at a few of us. You don't believe I

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<v Speaker 2>know you believe it. We're not gonna lose. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm thinking, where's this coming from? As he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying who's coming from? He's looking at me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, do you blame us after what happened? But

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<v Speaker 2>but no, in reality, where's this coming from? And is

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<v Speaker 2>that he was pissed already? One he was pissed already.

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<v Speaker 2>He never gets like that. And then some guy in

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<v Speaker 2>the back he had to be a journalism major from

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere from probably, and just kid asked the innocuously I

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<v Speaker 2>had already asked questions about free throws. He answered it

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, blah. It's five minutes in. He asked it

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<v Speaker 2>again in a different way, and because he already had

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<v Speaker 2>it prepare, you know, he had his questions prepared.

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<v Speaker 3>He asked that.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, what do you want me to do? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>go and have them make run and make him run laps,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. And he was getting upset because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he got questions, like he got questions. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think Bruce, I think Bruce and I asked asked him question,

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<v Speaker 2>and he asked him. Lloyd on his get or asked

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<v Speaker 2>his kick comment after the Houston game was meant to

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<v Speaker 2>motivate his team. Maybe maybe he was gonna I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting myself juiced up. And that's pretty much what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was getting he doesn't lose his temper, and he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He did throughout some of that. It was just different,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did. He's done something like that a while back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think after they got beat or they got be

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<v Speaker 2>he said, we're gonna have to get tougher because you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you remember that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's also too from some of the stuff I was

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<v Speaker 6>reading this morning, was that he never really talked to

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<v Speaker 6>the team about that, Like, you know, he never really

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<v Speaker 6>referred to his own guys saying, oh, you're you know,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like that message never never really was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't I know it was it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>it was people like us exactly. That's why I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>you because I can't remember. Maybe Luke did it a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times, and I'm sure Sean did now and again,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't remember where he. Sean used us all

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<v Speaker 2>the time to get messages across because he he was purposeful.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew what he was saying, he knew exactly where

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to go with it. Hey, how's that red sky?

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's actually blue. You know, he kind of direct

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to his own liking. But do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we used to. You could always tell

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<v Speaker 3>when lut would do it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It

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<v Speaker 3>was great at doing that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And now.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just I'm just wondering, you know, how the messages received,

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<v Speaker 6>Who's who's looking to the players. Even the players even check,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, over the course of these last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 6>and they looking at the social media to see what

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<v Speaker 6>their coach has to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because the and that's when people are

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<v Speaker 2>asking me. To me, I was misdirected anger because you

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<v Speaker 2>know how to use that with his guys, you'd get

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<v Speaker 2>it right. They'd get it right for us, What the

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<v Speaker 2>hell do we care? In all honesty, He's and i'd

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<v Speaker 2>like Tommy a ton, I like, I just finished right

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<v Speaker 2>in his Father of the Year story.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just found it kind of strange. It came

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<v Speaker 3>out of like where is that coming from? Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 3>it made news. It made news, you know, maybe on.

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<v Speaker 2>A slow news day. And they played it last night.

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<v Speaker 2>They played it on right after the game. They went

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<v Speaker 2>to SVP. Yeah, they and they're talking about it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was It was definitely a motivational thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But who knows if it motivated the players. Probably not

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not watching it or don't really care. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they do somehow. The families, i mean, people see

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, and that's kind of the way you know, communication

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<v Speaker 6>works these Yeah, yeah, yeah, no question, because the tweets

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<v Speaker 6>and the and the social media and people, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>fans you know, just go on Facebook after any game

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<v Speaker 6>and all of a sudden or even during games, well,

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<v Speaker 6>which is even dumber in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no question, last night was one of another. Every

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<v Speaker 2>game is a dumber thing because you have people tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>about the game who are no disrespect to you. Whoever,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they do for a living, they just don't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And it's coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>left field and blah blah blah, and what are.

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<v Speaker 3>You getting this?

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the way they communicate, right, It's like

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<v Speaker 2>people are people stupid like me and maybe you when

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching it, where are you coming from with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And the kids aren't walked, especially during the game with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy Jim Jim Bob Broke.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean with three minutes left, Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>can you know if you want to be the uh

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the game recapper after the game, whoever you are,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll give you that. You at least you're trying, but

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<v Speaker 6>to do things just throw something out in the middle

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<v Speaker 6>of the game. I've never understood it. Yeah, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Why are they losing by twenty points right now? And

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<v Speaker 6>it's you know, the game is in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>The sad one is it made you look to me,

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<v Speaker 2>made you look also maybe want delete that person from

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<v Speaker 2>my I've done that, Yeah, I've done that. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is. The good thing for them is

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<v Speaker 2>that they've righted the ship. Here's another kind of late thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday came out. They were a three seed in the East.

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<v Speaker 2>Up for whatever that's worth, because things will change. They lost,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's, oh, that's gone the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now they're a four seed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now, but but they righted the ship and okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they're a four seat, three seats whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>Four seat?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean with a month left? And how

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<v Speaker 2>many one seats have they been? And how'd that go?

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<v Speaker 2>How many two seats have they been?

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<v Speaker 3>How did that go?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Kidd? How many three seeds? And how'd that go? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, and everybody at this time of year, you're

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<v Speaker 6>always doing that. You're always looking ahead. Oh let's see

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<v Speaker 6>what we got, you know, Utah and b Yu and

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<v Speaker 6>then you know, another road game. I mean, it's everyone's

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<v Speaker 6>doing that at this point. And then when you get

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<v Speaker 6>to the tournaments, the conference tournaments, it's even worse. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>if they can just win two games, there'll be a

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<v Speaker 6>three seed or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's what does it matter? Ask me? If

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<v Speaker 3>I'm married? Are you married?

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<v Speaker 2>No? But when I got married, I didn't go in

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<v Speaker 2>thinking out get a divorce, and I surely didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>that I would think ten years ahead and say I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if I'm still gonna be happy? You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know they don't enjoy the moment. They don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to join the moment. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when you get to the moment and you lose,

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<v Speaker 3>it's our hell breaks loose.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're talking about the fans now, the fans now, yes, yes, sure,

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<v Speaker 6>it's yeah. I mean it's part of gosh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as I'm sitting here getting older and watching these games

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<v Speaker 6>and thinking this has been going on for like thirty

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<v Speaker 6>five forty years, I mean, and the anxiety and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You say that because you've been here that time. I

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee you is before that. Now we just get to

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<v Speaker 2>see it in real time, you know, because it used

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<v Speaker 2>to be, Dave, you want to go grab a beer

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<v Speaker 2>in like nineteen seven, nineteen eighty three day you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To go grab a beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go to I'm just rusties for somewhere and

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting in the corner and some dude under the

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<v Speaker 2>booth is.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying God, God, dam sucks. You know that's where you

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<v Speaker 3>would hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>or for sound, but sometimes, you know, you just don't

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just watch it and watch because you want to

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<v Speaker 3>watch basketball, Yeah, and watch it and just see how

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are the right of the ship at

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<v Speaker 2>least for now. And then they have a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>to look forward like you were talking about, but but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, capable and then and then of course Iowa

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean it's you know, it's it's sitting there

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<v Speaker 6>right for them if they can whatever get four wins

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, four wins. Yes, it's five games, six games, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but they they got to go to they go.

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<v Speaker 2>To to five games, so five games, four games even

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<v Speaker 2>three three of them are home. Yeah, so get those

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<v Speaker 2>three for sure, maybe steal one on the road with

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas is definitely beatable this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then you get ready for the pack the

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve tournament, and then the tournament and then guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>all bets are wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Then everything that happened doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 6>Just so crazy about college basketball, right, what doesn't matter?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make of them thinking about going to

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy seventy two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I'm saying, they're going to eventually

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<v Speaker 6>Right, you know, there's certainly enough interest in that tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's a great month. Does it make it less

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<v Speaker 6>exclusive or yeah? I mean you're bringing in a couple

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but you know the normal what what's the purpose twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>See money? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure is there is there a way they can

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<v Speaker 6>squeeze all these games in? I mean, it's tight the

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<v Speaker 6>way it is now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll there is, and there's two more games

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<v Speaker 2>won't extend a weekend?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they'll do something maybe on Wednesday, possibly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>If they can do that. Most they play those playing games.

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<v Speaker 6>The playing games are on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tuesday each day, So we'll see, we'll see party again.

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<v Speaker 2>Just had two more games and then see how they

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<v Speaker 2>do it. It's just weird to me. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>had it good at sixty four even, blah blah blah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well what about the teams that didn't make it? Every

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<v Speaker 2>year you're gonna have more teams that didn't make it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>every year one hundred and four teams get in. What

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred and five and six? Get about the phone.

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<v Speaker 6>Just everybody, and let's just play a bit of giant tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's kind of what college sports is going

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<v Speaker 6>to is trying to become anyway, right, is the SEC

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<v Speaker 6>and the Big Ten want to just be themselves. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>they want all the teams in the college football playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>They want four from each conference. So that's only going

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<v Speaker 6>to leave what, you know, maybe eight other ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so that's kind of what what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well here we are, okay, so let me just set

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<v Speaker 2>up the day. We have Kelvin Ephan who does is

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<v Speaker 2>his analyst stuff on twelve ninety each game and before

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<v Speaker 2>and after so we're going to get ahold of him again.

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<v Speaker 3>He does a great job for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we talked to him about breaking down some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that's going on or whatever he sees.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the four seventeen hour, one of my favorite guys,

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<v Speaker 2>some point and soon, yes, he'll take over Ken Palm

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<v Speaker 2>and eat all that stuff up. You were on with

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<v Speaker 2>me last week. He was fantastic. You had never really known, right, Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a lot of fun to go through

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<v Speaker 6>So remind us again what the site is, I guess

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<v Speaker 6>Evan Maya, Evan Maya, Evan Mayo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we'll go through that. He's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>He's out of Texas and you know, had this one

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<v Speaker 2>use it, right, all the schools use it, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a monthly service. And I'm sure he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you remember the Kansas team that really was bad

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to wynding the ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe and now we're gonna have Kelvin E.

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<v Speaker 3>Fhon on the phone. Kelvin, are you there? Yeah, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect timing, Perfect timing, Kelvin, What did you see? We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go through two games because I hadn't talked to

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<v Speaker 2>you in a while, but Saturday's game. Let's let's go

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<v Speaker 2>first to last night's game because it's fresh, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you What did you make of it? Did

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<v Speaker 3>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you like whether Tommy's guys, you guys think we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get her ask kicked?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you one of those guys?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't. No, I wasn't at all.

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<v Speaker 18>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I saw how close those games were. I

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<v Speaker 5>saw the games where they went on a run. It

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<v Speaker 5>just won, like what twelve out of thirteen or something

478
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<v Speaker 5>like that. So no, I just thought that they ran

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<v Speaker 5>into two good teams and Kansas State needed a victory,

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<v Speaker 5>needed a victory. So they came and brought everything that

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<v Speaker 5>they had, so much that they've lost their.

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<v Speaker 10>Last two games, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So they just came and gave everything, and then again

484
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<v Speaker 5>the other team takes to take. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this conference is a tough conference. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>go through unscathed. So, you know, as a former player

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<v Speaker 5>a coach, you know, I'm not surprised whenever you in

488
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<v Speaker 5>these tough battles.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that so you've been doing this long

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<v Speaker 2>time in this side of defense, not as an athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>but as as an observer in the in the Drumanism world.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that people the general public realizes how

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<v Speaker 2>difficult it is to win on the road and play

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<v Speaker 2>against good teams.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, you know, sometimes you get spoiled.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, coach Filson.

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<v Speaker 5>Spoiled this coach Miller, right and was Lloyd came right

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<v Speaker 5>in with some of the players Coach Midler had and

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<v Speaker 5>you know and has you know, advanced and got more

501
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<v Speaker 5>players and spoiled us. You know, winning at home all

502
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<v Speaker 5>the time. You know, getting to the tournament all the time,

503
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<v Speaker 5>and you know, people want to get back to a

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<v Speaker 5>final four with opportunity to win a championship, but you

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<v Speaker 5>know it takes time. Man, these rosters are getting turned

506
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<v Speaker 5>over every year. I mean, we have a new guy

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<v Speaker 5>in the starting lineup now, Henry Vasar, so it's like

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth starting lineup. You know, you go back and

509
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<v Speaker 5>think about it. Coach Lloyd never changed his lineup up.

510
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<v Speaker 5>I mean maybe one guy, Pela Larson, you know, switching

511
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<v Speaker 5>back and forth from starting to six man. But usually

512
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<v Speaker 5>he stinks with his units. I mean, to me, he's

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<v Speaker 5>really coaching up this group. I mean, even last night

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<v Speaker 5>he took guys out. People were talking about how tired

515
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<v Speaker 5>the guys are, of which I'm sure they are, but

516
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<v Speaker 5>all the time, all the players on all the teams

517
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<v Speaker 5>are tired. At this point of the year, right everybody's

518
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<v Speaker 5>playing thirty thirty thirty five minutes. So I just feel

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<v Speaker 5>like that you saw him take Caleb Love out of

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<v Speaker 5>the game. You saw him take Brawley out even though

521
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<v Speaker 5>he was in foul trouble, you know, switching guys up,

522
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<v Speaker 5>saving guys a little minuted for the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, that's why Caleb had that energy to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to get that dunk at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the big guys too.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of fun to watch Toby just kind of

527
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<v Speaker 6>come in and I mean, you know, he said some

528
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<v Speaker 6>big games. He's done obviously very well with the offensive rebounding,

529
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<v Speaker 6>the rebounding in general. Did you expect that from him

530
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<v Speaker 6>coming in from a Tennessee to just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>work his way into the lineup and really contribute like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I did, especially going into the Big twelve. I knew

534
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<v Speaker 5>we needed a kind of a bully type of rebound

535
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<v Speaker 5>type of guy, somebody to push people off the block,

536
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<v Speaker 5>and I thought it was perfect. I didn't know if

537
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<v Speaker 5>it was going to be him a towsand but I

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<v Speaker 5>seen the efficiency that he played with as far as

539
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<v Speaker 5>offensive rebounding when he was at Tennessee, and I knew

540
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<v Speaker 5>that was something that we needed. But his offensive scoring

541
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<v Speaker 5>has been a little bit of surprise. The putbacks, the

542
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<v Speaker 5>mid range jumper, the little floater that he does, it's

543
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<v Speaker 5>been a little bit of a surprise. And his toughness

544
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<v Speaker 5>has been really needed on this team. And I think

545
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<v Speaker 5>it's been rubbing off on some of the other big guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question, I'm figuring that when Tommy went to

547
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<v Speaker 2>go get him and talentson to a degree, is we're

548
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<v Speaker 2>moving into the big twelve. We need someone like that dude,

549
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<v Speaker 2>those two dudes, because it's gonna be rough and tell

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<v Speaker 2>me right, and here's the issue, And you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to agree with me, Kevin, but it's an observation I've

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<v Speaker 2>said the last few days and outside of last night.

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<v Speaker 2>So so Arizona's is pretty good, right, we all know that,

554
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<v Speaker 2>and they are going to be a three or four

555
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<v Speaker 2>seed going in. But still they're playing with a couple

556
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<v Speaker 2>of they're playing with their hands, but with one hand

557
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 2>tied behind their back. Because there's days when Delorso doesn't

558
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<v Speaker 2>show up and Townson doesn't show up right, and then

559
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes in that time Caleb doesn't show up. So now

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<v Speaker 2>you have three dudes that aren't doing what they need

561
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<v Speaker 2>to do. Last night, Delorcio was out of his mind,

562
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<v Speaker 2>which is great, right, and then Townson didn't do what

563
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>he did, but Caleb was good.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, do you agree with me or do you see

565
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<v Speaker 3>what I'm telling you?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I do see what you're saying, But I think

567
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<v Speaker 5>you have to look at it like this. Caleb is

568
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<v Speaker 5>facing every team that understands every kid. I ain't gonna

569
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<v Speaker 5>say kid. All the young men that play against him,

570
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<v Speaker 5>watch him play in the National Championship game, but like

571
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<v Speaker 5>three years ago. So they're coming in to stop Caleb.

572
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 5>They're coming in with their best defenses. They're doubling them everywhere.

573
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they're making it tough on him. I mean,

574
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<v Speaker 5>and coaches, you know, kind of say figure it out.

575
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:26.400
<v Speaker 5>So he has to kind of figure it out, you know,

576
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<v Speaker 5>inside of the flow offense. So I kind of give

577
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<v Speaker 5>him a pass sometimes, even though I feel like he

578
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<v Speaker 5>shoots too many threes, especially for a guy that's so

579
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<v Speaker 5>efficient when he gets in the mid range with his

580
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 5>pull ups. His floaters haven't been all that, you know,

581
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.319
<v Speaker 5>they come and go, but the mid range, and when

582
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<v Speaker 5>he gets aft the way to the rim with the

583
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<v Speaker 5>left hand, he can even dump the ball. Would love

584
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<v Speaker 5>to see him get some more back doors, but I

585
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<v Speaker 5>think they'll also in Townsend. I think we also have

586
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<v Speaker 5>to give them a little bit of a pass because

587
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<v Speaker 5>it just got here. This is a huge step up.

588
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<v Speaker 5>You guys know this better than me. This is not

589
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<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't care how well that they played

590
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<v Speaker 5>at the level that they played at, it had to

591
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<v Speaker 5>be understood that it was going to be some transition time.

592
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<v Speaker 5>And there also with limited playing time and talentshend with

593
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<v Speaker 5>being so used to running set offenses. People miss y'all

594
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<v Speaker 5>don't understand when you're used to running plays that set

595
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<v Speaker 5>you up to be one on one in the post

596
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<v Speaker 5>against either bigger guys that are slower than you or

597
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<v Speaker 5>against smaller guys that emphasized you scoring. He was a

598
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<v Speaker 5>different guy in that system, and this system is not

599
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<v Speaker 5>really made for you to get isolated. You have to

600
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<v Speaker 5>figure it out amongst the flow, and and it comes

601
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<v Speaker 5>and goes for him. So I think the best of

602
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<v Speaker 5>him is yet to come. I think we probably see

603
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<v Speaker 5>the best of him in tournament play.

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<v Speaker 3>Those people are gonna un Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was justa say, Kevin, we're running out of time, man, Yeah, yeah, no,

606
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<v Speaker 2>But you're right. I think if it's not by tournament time,

607
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<v Speaker 2>then you've kind of, you know, four months later, gamonew

608
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<v Speaker 2>Gamonel he's done.

609
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, man, but it is what it is.

610
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<v Speaker 5>Is what you got. You can't trade him, you can't

611
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<v Speaker 5>go into you know, find some new guys, this is

612
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<v Speaker 5>what you have and you got to make it work.

613
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<v Speaker 5>They're already down to eight guys really that place, you

614
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<v Speaker 5>know what he do? You take Townsend and they're also

615
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.519
<v Speaker 5>out now yet six So you just got to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out what you got.

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<v Speaker 6>How about the emergence of Carter in the last month,

618
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<v Speaker 6>where do you see him, you know, emerging maybe even

619
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<v Speaker 6>being you know, one of the one of the main

620
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<v Speaker 6>guys in the tournament. He's he's pretty mature for a freshman.

621
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<v Speaker 5>He is he is, and coach played him a little

622
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<v Speaker 5>bit more as a three yesterday. I like him more

623
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<v Speaker 5>at the four and uh yeah. I love his catch

624
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 5>and shoot. I love his intensity on the defensive side

625
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 5>of the ball, his IQ, his understanding of what they're

626
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<v Speaker 5>trying to do. I think he's a guy that could

627
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<v Speaker 5>take off man. And you know, I always tell people

628
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<v Speaker 5>I'm a little afraid that he plays any better. He's

629
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<v Speaker 5>definitely not going to be around here.

630
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<v Speaker 2>You're not You're not alone with that. I think everybody says, okay,

631
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<v Speaker 2>be good, but just don't be that good.

632
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<v Speaker 3>It's six assistance, right right, six assists?

633
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<v Speaker 2>I mean let everybody yeah huge, yeah, so uh what, Okay,

634
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<v Speaker 2>we'll stay with that they won the game. They're back

635
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 2>to where they probably need to be. What did you

636
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>make of Saturday's game? Because Tommy was kind of all

637
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 2>over the map emotionally and otherwise. And you're right, I

638
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>totally agree with this that they paid well enough to

639
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>win the game but didn't. But let's let's put some

640
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 2>perspective on it. That was one of the top five

641
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>teams in the country.

642
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, man, I mean you're facing you were facing the

643
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 5>team again, Houston, tough defenders, grown men that have been

644
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:39.160
<v Speaker 5>playing together for a while. Coach the transfers that he

645
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 5>do get to fit exactly what he's trying to do.

646
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 5>So there's no you know, there's no time to get

647
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 5>to know each other. Like I think U of A

648
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 5>is still trying to figure out. They're still trying to

649
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 5>figure out each other a little bit. I mean, you

650
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 5>have a little connection there with A three of the

651
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 5>guys would love Bradley and kJ Lewis, but the rest

652
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 5>of the guys are trying to figure each other out.

653
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 5>And but Houston, man, you watch those guys.

654
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 18>That the defensive intensity that.

655
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 5>They have, the way that they double rotate, it's just

656
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 5>words on you, man. As that game goes along man,

657
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 5>and one or two mistakes they get you. And they're

658
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 5>looking to play games like that, making it ugly, trying

659
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 5>to get it down to the wire and just see

660
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 5>if they can make a play or not.

661
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, and you and you're well of this.

662
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Once the tournament happens, guess what happens. Teams start playing

663
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>like that.

664
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<v Speaker 5>That's the game. And that's why I think Arizona has

665
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 5>been lucky to be in those games. I mean, it's

666
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 5>been a few of them. We came out on the

667
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 5>wrong side of. But I think I mean, I hate

668
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 5>I know people are gonna hate to hear this, but

669
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 5>I think we lucky because we win those games. We

670
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 5>win that little tournament, the Bahama Tournament, we win, We

671
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 5>win those games right there, and then we get in

672
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:52.400
<v Speaker 5>the tournament and lose in the first round. I've been

673
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 5>around for that. You know what that's like, right, So no,

674
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 5>I'd rather learn my lessons a little earlier in the year.

675
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, we're not finality to it.

676
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Amazing thing too, is is you know these the n

677
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 6>A there's not much scouting. You know, all of a sudden,

678
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 6>oh my gosh, we're playing you know, some team we've

679
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 6>never heard of. And that seems to be the bugaboo

680
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 6>in that tournament, not just for the U of A,

681
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.480
<v Speaker 6>but for almost everybody because it's a it's a crapshoot

682
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 6>once you get to that point, it is and it's.

683
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's a guard game.

684
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 5>It's about, you know, who has the guards and the

685
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 5>chemistry and the team that understands how each other play

686
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 5>and style of play, and they can come out and

687
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 5>as I you know, experienced against Miami Ohio, you know,

688
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 5>went up there and got beat by those guys where

689
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 5>guys I've never heard of before or after. But you know,

690
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.160
<v Speaker 5>it's just one of those things when they come in

691
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 5>with their game plan and hey, they could they can

692
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 5>knock you out.

693
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 3>You remember Devin Davis, I know, I definitely remember.

694
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<v Speaker 5>Bro Man point guard too. He gave Dave. They gave

695
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Daved Fitz that day. But you know it was more

696
00:30:58.039 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 5>to that. You remember a couple of guys were.

697
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Just being knowing everything and so there was a lot

698
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 3>going on there, right, Yeah, no question.

699
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh, well you're a coach and you used to play,

700
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 2>so I think one of the things I've learned the

701
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>most is sometimes teams go in with your either over

702
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 2>confident or not knowing who they're playing, like the Miami

703
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 2>of the East Tennessee States and blah blah blah. How

704
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>do you as a coach guard against stuff like that?

705
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, if you have a good team, like

706
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a really good team, and they play you know whoever Green,

707
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, a smaller school, you're thinking, don't overlook these guys.

708
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, man, you remind them. I mean, especially when you

709
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 5>have those experiences. You know a lot of you know

710
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 5>a lot of coaches played, so you have a lot

711
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 5>of experiences and you point to them and you and

712
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 5>you find games where you know people underestimated people, and

713
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 5>you can I mean you can just look up and

714
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 5>down the history of the NCAA tournament and find it.

715
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 5>And being a former Arizona player, I could point to

716
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 5>several games myself and just say, hey, guys, this can

717
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 5>happen to you and you can have the superior team.

718
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 5>So you know, as a coach, you really guard against

719
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 5>that when you experienced, you experienced that, you really going

720
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 5>against that with your guys, man, and you try to

721
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 5>really be on them. That's why you notice the coaches

722
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 5>be on the sideline. Okay, you notice that coach Lord

723
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 5>got very animated when he was talking about you know,

724
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 5>people think it was gonna get our buck kid, because

725
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 5>he was letting his guys know. He was talking to

726
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 5>them more than anybody else. He was letting them know

727
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 5>that like, hey, if you're not going to be a

728
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 5>fighter today, I'm gonna find somebody who will because I'm

729
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 5>not just gonna take you know, getting my behind kicked

730
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 5>on national TV. So you know, it's just one of

731
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.880
<v Speaker 5>those things where the intensity kind of picks up with

732
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 5>the coach when he understands the states you.

733
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<v Speaker 3>Were gonna say, Dave, we talked about this earlier.

734
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he says this, right, he says, says to

735
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<v Speaker 2>a group of fifteen twenty in the room, and okay,

736
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>he tells it, but he doesn't tell the kids. Do

737
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 2>you think the kids knew about it or heard about

738
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 2>it or whatever?

739
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, Oh yeah, come on, guys, like you know,

740
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 5>you know, we players try to act like you didn't

741
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 5>hear the media or you don't look at the social

742
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 5>media and all the different stuff they're lying. Come on now,

743
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.720
<v Speaker 5>and especially when your coach is speaking and something like

744
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.599
<v Speaker 5>that comes out. Your parents are hearing, your friends are hearing.

745
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's talking about you know, you guys. You know,

746
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 5>he's talking about people think that we're gonna get kicked,

747
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 5>and and and all. We tough enough, that's what I heard.

748
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, we toughing up when we're gonna fight back.

749
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 5>Like I heard all that in there as a player,

750
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm listening to him, you know, I'm hearing

751
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.200
<v Speaker 5>him as a coach, but my player instance are coming on,

752
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, oh, he's challenging us. Yeah, and and

753
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 5>and I thought they answered the challenge. I thought they

754
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 5>answered it against Houston.

755
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:31.880
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, no, Houston.

756
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 5>They didn't.

757
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 3>They didn't.

758
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 5>They didn't back down to Houston. They was right there right.

759
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 5>But again, I thought that energy helped them out when

760
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 5>it got to a tabel or they understood the assignment.

761
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 5>They they figured out a way to knuckle up again.

762
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 6>Like we were talking about Tobey, I mean, I don't

763
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 6>think there's been too many guys like that around here.

764
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 6>I think if if someone told him, hey, you know,

765
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.200
<v Speaker 6>you guys are gonna lose, he looked like he was

766
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 6>just kind of possessed last night. That was not gonna

767
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 6>happen to him. He took over. Well, he was and

768
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.160
<v Speaker 6>you know him makes some big plays. Kelvin, I can't remember.

769
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 6>I think I do remember a little. You played with Rays, right, Ray.

770
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 2>So he wasn't he wasn't built as big as but

771
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 2>he had that he had that bite to him. He

772
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't say much, but I'm told he had a bite

773
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to him.

774
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 5>Yes, oh yeah, I tell anybody it is. There was

775
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 5>not a player on the U of a team and

776
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 5>my two years playing and even afterwards, that intimidated me

777
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 5>more than Ray. I'm not indidated.

778
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And Kelvin, no one would think that, right because I

779
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 2>know that because people tell me these things and I

780
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>know you, I know you guys, and they said, I.

781
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Said, really, he never said it words he was.

782
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 5>He was a dude, right, You didn't play with Ray.

783
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 5>You didn't play with Ray at all. You didn't play

784
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 5>with Ray and all. And he told me one time,

785
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 5>and he didn't have to tell me again, trust me, well.

786
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>You weren't here for you. And another guy like this

787
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>was Michael Wright and said where.

788
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, we didn't play together. But I know you know,

789
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 5>that's who I think when I think of what Toby

790
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.519
<v Speaker 5>is bringing with the offensive rebound. Now, Michael White was

791
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 5>a way more skilled offensive player. Was way more skilled

792
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 5>offensive player overall. But the rebounding and the toughness and

793
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 5>being physical. Yeah no, the same type of energy.

794
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 6>Same basically, that's a good comparison, same type of body,

795
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 6>like six seven.

796
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

797
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember people telling me he would say give me

798
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the ball and once he got because he had like

799
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 2>three assistants whole career, once he got the ball.

800
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, yeah, not fast. I always say him. Might

801
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 5>be him and Michael Dickerson, they're not fast.

802
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right right now. What Michael d with the ball

803
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 3>was pretty damn good. Pretty yeah, I'll be as usual,

804
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 3>went to many people.

805
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 2>He had the pad, right as usual to Kevin, thanks

806
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>for joining us, talk to you soon.

807
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, thanks, good stuff, that fun stuff.

808
00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Michael right rio is no one ever knows but

809
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>about right du yeah about right? Oh yeah no, he

810
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>look at his statsysts really that would disappear. He got

811
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<v Speaker 2>it low, he was going to the basket.

812
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 3>All he was good. I like watching him play. Yeah,

813
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 3>that little left hand.

814
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let's go take a break, come back, maybe

815
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<v Speaker 2>take some calls from people who what's.

816
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 3>The game now?

817
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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to my on the ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Dave Silver,

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<v Speaker 2>Gave Dave Hell for his thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us a call. What did I say this time?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever? Who knows? Who knows? I give us call?

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<v Speaker 2>Five two o four one six seventy four forty your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the team.

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<v Speaker 3>You know where you like done?

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<v Speaker 2>The Dubson know the world is gonna end on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon or now you're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's batter than I do Saturday watch the game again.

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<v Speaker 6>The beauty of being in the position I'm in now,

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<v Speaker 6>I could just turn it off. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>write a story and I have to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have to listen to donors complain about the teams.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it was, it's kind of nice. It's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of a nice phase of life.

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<v Speaker 3>You have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the problem I have now is because

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<v Speaker 2>after wins, no one everyone leaves me alone, ah blay.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they lose, no one really reads the crap

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to don't want to read it.

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<v Speaker 2>But after they lose, like again, like that, you go,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to games, right then you're you're you're not

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<v Speaker 2>where you're working, but you're not working. You start working

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<v Speaker 2>after the game, right. So I get these texts during

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<v Speaker 2>the press conference, you know what the world for the

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<v Speaker 2>next hour, they're texting me, could you leave me alone?

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<v Speaker 2>I need to ask some questions I need to write.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't bother me.

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<v Speaker 3>During this time, and I look forward to those stories.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, when I was in the media, I would

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<v Speaker 6>anxiously await, you know Greg's Sunday column and your guys

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<v Speaker 6>postgame columns or whatever. I mean, I you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>as a consumer in those years even still so I

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<v Speaker 6>mean it's okay. I mean, do your job, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think people people do enjoy that perspective. We've all watched

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<v Speaker 6>the games pretty much. I don't need a play by

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<v Speaker 6>play recap. Get your guys feelings about that job.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what we try to do it And

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for noticing the day. But that's exactly it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you've already know what happened. Now it's what does it

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<v Speaker 2>all mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think perspective has never been a real

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<v Speaker 6>big thing around Tucson with with you of A athletics

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes where we think it's the only game in town

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<v Speaker 6>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's because I think you've been with me a

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<v Speaker 2>time or two and get a call and I says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell you're sensible?

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get through? Most people aren't sensible?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean when you're around as long as we've been,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you have to kind of just say listen.

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<v Speaker 6>You know they're going to have bad days. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to happen. And you're gonna just kept move past

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<v Speaker 6>and let's see what happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me go through some perspective with you, because

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<v Speaker 2>you got here in eighty three the same time that

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<v Speaker 2>Luke did, h and you you knew all about all

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<v Speaker 2>the optimism because I think you had to show somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had a show with them, right, did you guys now?

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<v Speaker 3>But somebody else? Yeah, So he was optimal to get

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<v Speaker 3>your tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, they were pretty bad in that first year because

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00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, Ben Lindsay didn't leave them anything. But how

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<v Speaker 2>was it back there in terms of enthusiasm?

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<v Speaker 3>I think because of him.

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<v Speaker 6>He was such a figurehead and a symbol of the

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<v Speaker 6>basketball program that there was hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>I think again, I got I was lucky. I got

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<v Speaker 6>here literally that that year, just you know a few

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<v Speaker 6>months after he was hired. So I kind of just

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<v Speaker 6>stepped right into it. And I'd heard about the snowed

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<v Speaker 6>in the years, and I'd heard about some of the

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the bob elly at times, and that whole

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<v Speaker 6>key of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it wasn't too far, it wasn't too long far

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<v Speaker 3>a long no.

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<v Speaker 6>But there were you know, there were a few down

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<v Speaker 6>years where you know, they weren't. And again it was

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<v Speaker 6>so different because I'm coming from California and knew very

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<v Speaker 6>little about the U of A athletically. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 6>were you know, the games weren't on all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>They were not ever, I didn't know anybody really. Football

981
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 6>was really pretty good actually that year as I was

982
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<v Speaker 6>moving here that fall. But like they were saying, with basketball,

983
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<v Speaker 6>we had no idea what to expect. I mean, I

984
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<v Speaker 6>don't think anybody could have predicted that this would have

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<v Speaker 6>happened and it would have sustained for all these years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, and there's one reason why. And I

987
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 2>was loot because he had he commanded that respect that

988
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<v Speaker 2>got him. He got him to play hard for them,

989
00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 2>bade them believe that this is possible, didn't leave after

990
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 2>having a chance or two to do it. And and

991
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<v Speaker 2>here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, did you winning be you know, winning just

993
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<v Speaker 3>begets winning.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he had success, and I'm sure he got resources.

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<v Speaker 6>He was able to travel and recruit and go get players.

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<v Speaker 6>We used to joke like, okay, every year they you know,

997
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<v Speaker 6>guys would go to the NBA or leave or whatever,

998
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<v Speaker 6>and you know he would just say, Okay, I need

999
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<v Speaker 6>a six seven forward who can do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he would literally just go fill that roster

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<v Speaker 3>with what he needed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great example, dude, because that's what he was

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant at. Because, uh, and he didn't always go after

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<v Speaker 2>a five star guy. I mean now everyone is consumed

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<v Speaker 2>with the five star, four star. We need these guys, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. You can coach them up, you can play them,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in this basketball world. I think Tommy does that.

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<v Speaker 2>He develops them, despite what you read on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when he doesn't get Arenas or whomever. But but but

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<v Speaker 2>Luke did this where if you needed a spot to

1011
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<v Speaker 2>feel and you felt that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of the team, he went and got him. Or

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Kind of like this piece,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a puzzle piece.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely, And then when you looked at it, I bet

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<v Speaker 6>if we were to like kind of start breaking down

1017
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<v Speaker 6>rosters from you know, over maybe a fifteen year period,

1018
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<v Speaker 6>the players were kind of similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he'd get us six six, I'll give you, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you Iceress Mills. Okay, the next one is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be You're exactly right. I started a nine ninety

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<v Speaker 2>one current at full time and I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 2>ninety sixteen. I'll give you the ninety six after the

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<v Speaker 2>after the first round loss of the Miami of Ohio

1025
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<v Speaker 2>and they had already been to the final four, right,

1026
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<v Speaker 2>so they got Reggie. I'll give you the lineup Reggie

1027
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<v Speaker 2>who was that point guard guy. He couldn't shoot, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was a point guard guy. Distributed Joe mcclan, Corey Williams,

1029
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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Blair, Ben Davis Ray os so every and they're

1030
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<v Speaker 2>all kind of not tall, six nine ish. Michael Dickerson

1031
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<v Speaker 2>came into as a backup Miles Simon freshman. They were

1032
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<v Speaker 2>freshman at the time. So they all these kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pieces fit to what he needed because he went remember

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<v Speaker 2>with the end of the twin Towers, and he realized or

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<v Speaker 2>the three something it was the three by Whims, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know what, big is overrated. Yeah, I'm

1037
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<v Speaker 2>gonna go small with the Damon's and the Kolids and

1038
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<v Speaker 2>the Reggies and these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a call. But you know what I'm saying,

1040
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<v Speaker 3>it fit. It all fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy's doing that now, and like you said, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take some time, and it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you're on the air and I on the ball.

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<v Speaker 18>Who's this, hey, Steven Dave, how we're doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 18>I was, Uh, I was. Yeah the game.

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<v Speaker 22>I had no doubt they were gonna win last night.

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<v Speaker 22>But I was on the edge of my chair and

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<v Speaker 22>I just I watched that game from start to finish,

1050
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<v Speaker 22>and the Houston game because I didn't go, and I

1051
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<v Speaker 22>just just by watching it, you could tell the two

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<v Speaker 22>guys just were M I A the two or the

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<v Speaker 22>two good player. Y' waka was missing an action? Was

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<v Speaker 22>he must have been in foul trouble? Yeahston and then

1055
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 22>Bradley was pretty much M I A. And but they

1056
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 22>both played like lights out last night.

1057
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>There were oh yeah yeah. I think Saturday against the

1058
00:46:58.519 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Houston d were just gassed.

1059
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 6>I mean walk I had three fouls. He only played

1060
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 6>like he didn't score and he was after fourteen minutes.

1061
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Guy that I'm sure you can go back in games

1062
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.360
<v Speaker 2>in your memory of the performances like Collids against Michigan.

1063
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget.

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00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 5>Uh No, I.

1065
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Forgot v Star's game against against Houston. He was gassed

1066
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 2>and I think he playing out of his mind.

1067
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 22>I just think that this this league is really going

1069
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 22>to help us in and going forward.

1070
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.599
<v Speaker 18>In the NCAAs because it's just tough. It really is

1071
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 18>a minefield.

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00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 6>I think just as a fan too, the games are

1073
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 6>really exciting, you know. I mean, there's no gotta go

1074
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 6>to Oregon State. What's going to happen there? Yeah, you know,

1075
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 6>going to win by thirty. I mean these games have

1076
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 6>been pretty competitive, almost every one of them.

1077
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.519
<v Speaker 2>If if if anybody is disappointed in what they've seen

1078
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>to this point, they're just not paying attention.

1079
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 18>Okay, now I gotta do your request. Go off on.

1080
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 22>Gave one good thing, one bad thing.

1081
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 18>Okay. What the good thing was? Literally twenty years ago,

1082
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 18>I saw you at a function in a church I

1083
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 18>attended at.

1084
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 5>You know that church?

1085
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 18>Remember remember that church right across from Westward.

1086
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 22>Look, we were your Sunday night deal.

1087
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 18>Oh yeah, it might have been a July fourth thing.

1088
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 18>But we had like a there was like a meal,

1089
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 18>you know, they had food and everything that was I

1090
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 18>think your mom she went there or something.

1091
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 22>That's why you were there.

1092
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 3>We had friends that went there.

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00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 18>Okay, okay, okay, that.

1094
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 10>Was good.

1095
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 18>Here's the bad one.

1096
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 22>Because I'm gonna call him Dave like Larry King, but

1097
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 22>a different thing because he goes to Howard how Dary

1098
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 22>you say to Howard, what what's the point?

1099
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 5>That's what you said? One?

1100
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 14>What the point?

1101
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 18>I still think that, okay, you know, but whatever. It's

1102
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 18>just like Rush Limbaugh talking.

1103
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.920
<v Speaker 22>To belittling Larry King, when Larry King would say to

1104
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 22>the customer, to the caller.

1105
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 18>What's that question? What's the question? Like an idiot? But

1106
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 18>all right, I'll let you guys go.

1107
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, Howard? What was this point? Do

1108
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 3>I remember that? I do remember being there for July fourth.

1109
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 3>There was some kind of a party.

1110
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 1>It was.

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00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 6>It was great because Westward looking those years used to

1112
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 6>have an amazing fireworks show. Oh yeah, we used just

1113
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.679
<v Speaker 6>go parking this parking lot right across the street and

1114
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 6>they were like right over your head.

1115
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Howard met me, he said, yeah, I remember back in

1116
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the day we had a card show. You want to

1117
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.119
<v Speaker 2>come to car What the hell? What?

1118
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 6>It's amazing the impact you have on people. Sometimes you

1119
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 6>forget about that. I like it when because we used

1120
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 6>to do like the thing called love of reading, which

1121
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 6>is like now right now and this this week. And

1122
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 6>I did that for many many years. And then later

1123
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 6>I'd meet these college kids like you read to my

1124
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 6>class and you start thinking how old?

1125
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 3>How old? Yeah? How long ago was that?

1126
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

1127
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 17>Do you let me?

1128
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you.

1129
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you a weird question because I saw

1130
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>this on the internet today and I guess I might

1131
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 2>ask my boy Coke here and Jay and I talked

1132
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>about this Amran again when some people would pass Who

1133
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>was your boyhood crush? What your boyhood crushed? Like the

1134
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>famous the famous movie star? Oh, I saw it all

1135
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 2>today and it was like, obviously it'll kind of tight.

1136
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Tell me where you like the time you grew up, like,

1137
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, tell me the era.

1138
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Like who I liked? Yeah, you just you know what

1139
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 3>was it? Who is yours?

1140
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 22>Uh?

1141
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, Lavington John But you know there was Ka Welch

1142
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and there was these these you know, I'm you know, twelve.

1143
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Years ald Jane Fond it was pretty hot for years. Wow,

1144
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 3>I even think, oh yeah, because she was like Barbarilla. Yeah, no,

1145
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 3>that was out sixty nine is I think sixteen seventy?

1146
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Watch watch watch some of her earlier movies. She was

1147
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 3>she was a beauty. Yeah, she still looks pretty good

1148
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:47.760
<v Speaker 3>for what is she about? Ninety about eighty three, eighty

1149
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.440
<v Speaker 3>three ds like that? Yeah, what she did? Jazz or

1150
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 3>size stuff.

1151
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 6>Comyanne Keaton was fun to watch in her younger years.

1152
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 6>And The Godfather, Yeah, you know, like in nineteen seventy

1153
00:50:58.159 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 6>ish twenty one.

1154
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, Kobe, I would have to say Adam Sandler,

1155
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Will Ferrell, even though they're wait, no no, no, no,

1156
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 4>no no no girl cars. Oh hmm, that's a tough one.

1157
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 4>Rachel Addison because I was a big friends fan.

1158
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh Rachel no, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, and Rachel Jennifer

1159
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 2>anis Jennifer Yeah, Okay, that makes sense.

1160
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 6>That's a good that's a good collection. Yeah, yeah, I

1161
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.480
<v Speaker 6>got yeah, put me on the spot there. I gotta

1162
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 6>think about it.

1163
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was saying I was going through something on

1164
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Twitter's depth. Oh that's gotta be cool to talk about.

1165
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but when cal Wels died and then living, you

1166
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 2>know we talked about Yeah, we were like ten twelve

1167
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 2>years old. You're thinking, you know whatever, all right, gotta go,

1168
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 2>gotta go, Thank you, Kobe. We'll get through the first

1169
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>hour and then come back with breaking news, right, maybe

1170
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 2>take some more calls and then we're gonna get to

1171
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Evan my cow walked.

1172
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Also
