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Speaker 3: Kobe, how are you good?
Speaker 4: Are you guys?
Speaker 3: Were you cheering the game last night?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Great game.
Speaker 2: It'll pull it out at the end. Did you have
Speaker 2: any point think that it was not gonna happen?
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought the second and half collapse would
Speaker 4: happen at a point, but they cut the lead, but
Speaker 4: then they closed out.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, Dave, Yeah, I was optimistic. It was.
Speaker 6: It's kind of fun just to watch the game develop.
Speaker 6: And they played so well in the first half. Shot
Speaker 6: what sixty in the first half, so things were going
Speaker 6: pretty well. But yeah, that second half, you know, with
Speaker 6: like minutes to go, sometimes you're just wondering when are
Speaker 6: they gonna be able to hold on.
Speaker 3: They made the.
Speaker 6: Run and they were able to, you know, kind of
Speaker 6: hold him off and hit some free throws down at
Speaker 6: the end. So that was kind of nice to see
Speaker 6: because that didn't happen against Houston, right.
Speaker 3: So, you know, it was I'm sure.
Speaker 6: They've got to be satisfied picking up, you know, a
Speaker 6: victory and ending the losing streak and then looking forward
Speaker 6: to coming home for.
Speaker 2: A couple of games. Finally, I was talking to Bruce.
Speaker 2: Were texting with Bruce this morning. She who's with the team?
Speaker 2: No one's asked about that. Uh, that wrist injury of
Speaker 2: kJ What it is? How serious it is? It's not
Speaker 2: serious enough for him not to play?
Speaker 3: But what is it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he did just play seventeen minutes. He
Speaker 6: had fouled troubles, so did Jayden last night. But you're right,
Speaker 6: he seems to sometimes be favoring it. He'll grab you. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Ause he's walking off the court. I think there was
Speaker 6: one shot where he was, you know, just you know,
Speaker 6: hanging on kind of with his with his left hand,
Speaker 6: you know, trying to make himself feel better. But you're right,
Speaker 6: it's probably not something that's going to heal during the season.
Speaker 6: It might be one of these you know, surgery type
Speaker 6: situations or who knows, you know, who knows.
Speaker 2: How badly he's hurt. I guess we have to wait
Speaker 2: to hear from them. I'm going to ask you a question.
Speaker 2: This little dated now, uh four days removed. So you
Speaker 2: saw Houston saw did you see the postgame interviews?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I've heard about them.
Speaker 6: You know, everyone's talking about Tommy and his comments about
Speaker 6: doing ki.
Speaker 3: Who asked that question?
Speaker 2: Or it was a random It was a random question,
Speaker 2: I think. So I asked a question and then he
Speaker 2: went down gentle and he went to there. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: looked at a few of us. You don't believe I
Speaker 2: know you believe it. We're not gonna lose. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm thinking, where's this coming from? As he
Speaker 2: was saying who's coming from? He's looking at me, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, do you blame us after what happened? But
Speaker 2: but no, in reality, where's this coming from? And is
Speaker 2: that he was pissed already? One he was pissed already.
Speaker 2: He never gets like that. And then some guy in
Speaker 2: the back he had to be a journalism major from
Speaker 2: somewhere from probably, and just kid asked the innocuously I
Speaker 2: had already asked questions about free throws. He answered it
Speaker 2: blah blah, blah. It's five minutes in. He asked it
Speaker 2: again in a different way, and because he already had
Speaker 2: it prepare, you know, he had his questions prepared.
Speaker 3: He asked that.
Speaker 2: He says, what do you want me to do? You know,
Speaker 2: go and have them make run and make him run laps,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And he was getting upset because you know,
Speaker 2: he got questions, like he got questions. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: think Bruce, I think Bruce and I asked asked him question,
Speaker 2: and he asked him. Lloyd on his get or asked
Speaker 2: his kick comment after the Houston game was meant to
Speaker 2: motivate his team. Maybe maybe he was gonna I was
Speaker 2: getting myself juiced up. And that's pretty much what it was.
Speaker 2: He was getting he doesn't lose his temper, and he did.
Speaker 2: He did throughout some of that. It was just different,
Speaker 2: but he did. He's done something like that a while back.
Speaker 2: I think after they got beat or they got be
Speaker 2: he said, we're gonna have to get tougher because you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you remember that.
Speaker 6: It's also too from some of the stuff I was
Speaker 6: reading this morning, was that he never really talked to
Speaker 6: the team about that, Like, you know, he never really
Speaker 6: referred to his own guys saying, oh, you're you know,
Speaker 6: kind of like that message never never really was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't I know it was it was. It was
Speaker 2: it was people like us exactly. That's why I'm asking
Speaker 2: you because I can't remember. Maybe Luke did it a
Speaker 2: couple of times, and I'm sure Sean did now and again,
Speaker 2: I just can't remember where he. Sean used us all
Speaker 2: the time to get messages across because he he was purposeful.
Speaker 2: He knew what he was saying, he knew exactly where
Speaker 2: he wanted to go with it. Hey, how's that red sky?
Speaker 2: Well it's actually blue. You know, he kind of direct
Speaker 2: the answer to his own liking. But do you remember
Speaker 2: anything like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we used to. You could always tell
Speaker 3: when lut would do it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It
Speaker 3: was great at doing that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And now.
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just wondering, you know, how the messages received,
Speaker 6: Who's who's looking to the players. Even the players even check,
Speaker 6: you know, over the course of these last couple of days,
Speaker 6: and they looking at the social media to see what
Speaker 6: their coach has to say.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because the and that's when people are
Speaker 2: asking me. To me, I was misdirected anger because you
Speaker 2: know how to use that with his guys, you'd get
Speaker 2: it right. They'd get it right for us, What the
Speaker 2: hell do we care? In all honesty, He's and i'd
Speaker 2: like Tommy a ton, I like, I just finished right
Speaker 2: in his Father of the Year story.
Speaker 3: But I just found it kind of strange. It came
Speaker 3: out of like where is that coming from? Yeah, well
Speaker 3: it made news. It made news, you know, maybe on.
Speaker 2: A slow news day. And they played it last night.
Speaker 2: They played it on right after the game. They went
Speaker 2: to SVP. Yeah, they and they're talking about it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it was It was definitely a motivational thing.
Speaker 2: But who knows if it motivated the players. Probably not
Speaker 2: if they're not watching it or don't really care. I'm
Speaker 2: sure they do somehow. The families, i mean, people see
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 6: Sure, and that's kind of the way you know, communication
Speaker 6: works these Yeah, yeah, yeah, no question, because the tweets
Speaker 6: and the and the social media and people, you know,
Speaker 6: fans you know, just go on Facebook after any game
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden or even during games, well,
Speaker 6: which is even dumber in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, no question, last night was one of another. Every
Speaker 2: game is a dumber thing because you have people tweeting
Speaker 2: about the game who are no disrespect to you. Whoever,
Speaker 2: whatever they do for a living, they just don't do this,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it's coming out of
Speaker 2: left field and blah blah blah, and what are.
Speaker 3: You getting this?
Speaker 2: But this is the way they communicate, right, It's like
Speaker 2: people are people stupid like me and maybe you when
Speaker 2: you're watching it, where are you coming from with this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And the kids aren't walked, especially during the game with
Speaker 2: this guy Jim Jim Bob Broke.
Speaker 6: I mean with three minutes left, Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 6: can you know if you want to be the uh
Speaker 6: you know, the game recapper after the game, whoever you are,
Speaker 6: I'll give you that. You at least you're trying, but
Speaker 6: to do things just throw something out in the middle
Speaker 6: of the game. I've never understood it. Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Why are they losing by twenty points right now? And
Speaker 6: it's you know, the game is in the second half.
Speaker 2: The sad one is it made you look to me,
Speaker 2: made you look also maybe want delete that person from
Speaker 2: my I've done that, Yeah, I've done that. But it
Speaker 2: is what it is. The good thing for them is
Speaker 2: that they've righted the ship. Here's another kind of late thing.
Speaker 2: Saturday came out. They were a three seed in the East.
Speaker 2: Up for whatever that's worth, because things will change. They lost,
Speaker 2: and everybody's, oh, that's gone the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now they're a four seed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now, but but they righted the ship and okay,
Speaker 2: they're a four seat, three seats whatever?
Speaker 3: Four seat?
Speaker 2: What does that mean with a month left? And how
Speaker 2: many one seats have they been? And how'd that go?
Speaker 2: How many two seats have they been?
Speaker 3: How did that go?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: Kidd? How many three seeds? And how'd that go? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean, and everybody at this time of year, you're
Speaker 6: always doing that. You're always looking ahead. Oh let's see
Speaker 6: what we got, you know, Utah and b Yu and
Speaker 6: then you know, another road game. I mean, it's everyone's
Speaker 6: doing that at this point. And then when you get
Speaker 6: to the tournaments, the conference tournaments, it's even worse. Okay,
Speaker 6: if they can just win two games, there'll be a
Speaker 6: three seed or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then it's what does it matter? Ask me? If
Speaker 3: I'm married? Are you married?
Speaker 2: No? But when I got married, I didn't go in
Speaker 2: thinking out get a divorce, and I surely didn't think
Speaker 2: that I would think ten years ahead and say I
Speaker 2: wonder if I'm still gonna be happy? You know, you
Speaker 2: know they don't enjoy the moment. They don't know how
Speaker 2: to join the moment. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: And then when you get to the moment and you lose,
Speaker 3: it's our hell breaks loose.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're talking about the fans now, the fans now, yes, yes, sure,
Speaker 6: it's yeah. I mean it's part of gosh, you know,
Speaker 6: as I'm sitting here getting older and watching these games
Speaker 6: and thinking this has been going on for like thirty
Speaker 6: five forty years, I mean, and the anxiety and stuff.
Speaker 2: You say that because you've been here that time. I
Speaker 2: guarantee you is before that. Now we just get to
Speaker 2: see it in real time, you know, because it used
Speaker 2: to be, Dave, you want to go grab a beer
Speaker 2: in like nineteen seven, nineteen eighty three day you want.
Speaker 3: To go grab a beer.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to I'm just rusties for somewhere and
Speaker 2: we're sitting in the corner and some dude under the
Speaker 2: booth is.
Speaker 3: Saying God, God, dam sucks. You know that's where you
Speaker 3: would hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't hear it here right or on the radio,
Speaker 2: on social media and stuff like that. Yeah, and now
Speaker 2: there's there's so much, just so much chatter. It's it's really,
Speaker 2: it's really hilarious. I try to during games, like I
Speaker 2: said to you earlier we were sitting there, guy, I
Speaker 2: like to turn the sound off and sometimes just watch
Speaker 2: it and don't get affected by the crowds and the
Speaker 2: noise and just just kind of it makes.
Speaker 3: It a little more relaxing.
Speaker 2: Here's another thing I think about that, which is I
Speaker 2: think is a perfect thing. So so people complain, Oh,
Speaker 2: the announcers they say this and say that, and like Bill,
Speaker 2: when Bill was doing it, and everybody either hate hted
Speaker 2: him or really loved him. And I would say, what
Speaker 2: do you do when you go to the actual game?
Speaker 2: Do you watch a TV? Did listen to what they're saying?
Speaker 2: Or do you actually just watch the game? You can't
Speaker 2: do that in front of your TV and just turn
Speaker 2: it off and watch the game. Yeah, because you're just
Speaker 2: watching the game. It's it's hard, it's hard to block
Speaker 2: things out. There's some sports, no big deal baseball, know,
Speaker 2: sound up, fine, listen to the game. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: kind of a perfect game for radio or for noise
Speaker 2: or for sound, but sometimes, you know, you just don't
Speaker 2: want to listen to it. I don't know if other
Speaker 2: fans feel the same way. And it wasn't so much
Speaker 2: Bill Walton, who I.
Speaker 6: Got a kick out of, to be honest with you,
Speaker 6: and I think a lot of people did. But just
Speaker 6: in general, sometimes it's like I just watched this thing quietly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just watch it and watch because you want to
Speaker 3: watch basketball, Yeah, and watch it and just see how
Speaker 3: it plays out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So here we are the right of the ship at
Speaker 2: least for now. And then they have a couple of
Speaker 2: gimmes coming up which they should win. I don't want
Speaker 2: to look forward like you were talking about, but but
Speaker 2: you know, capable and then and then of course Iowa
Speaker 2: State and then a issue and then Kansas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I mean it's you know, it's it's sitting there
Speaker 6: right for them if they can whatever get four wins
Speaker 6: out of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four wins. Yes, it's five games, six games, yeah,
Speaker 3: but they they got to go to they go.
Speaker 2: To to five games, so five games, four games even
Speaker 2: three three of them are home. Yeah, so get those
Speaker 2: three for sure, maybe steal one on the road with
Speaker 2: Iowa State or Kansas, yep, Kansas possible.
Speaker 3: Kansas is definitely beatable this year.
Speaker 2: Right, and then you get ready for the pack the
Speaker 2: Big twelve tournament, and then the tournament and then guess what,
Speaker 2: all bets are wrong?
Speaker 3: Then everything that happened doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: Just so crazy about college basketball, right, what doesn't matter?
Speaker 2: What do you make of them thinking about going to
Speaker 2: one hundred and two teams.
Speaker 3: Seventy seventy two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, they're going to eventually
Speaker 2: if they're talking about it, like eventually, you're.
Speaker 6: Right, you know, there's certainly enough interest in that tournament.
Speaker 6: It's it's a great month. Does it make it less
Speaker 6: exclusive or yeah? I mean you're bringing in a couple
Speaker 6: of teams and maybe wouldn't wouldn't be there normally.
Speaker 3: Right, but you know the normal what what's the purpose twelve?
Speaker 3: See money? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I'm sure is there is there a way they can
Speaker 6: squeeze all these games in? I mean, it's tight the
Speaker 6: way it is now.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll there is, and there's two more games
Speaker 2: won't extend a weekend?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they'll do something maybe on Wednesday, possibly, I don't know.
Speaker 6: If they can do that. Most they play those playing games.
Speaker 6: The playing games are on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: And Tuesday each day, So we'll see, we'll see party again.
Speaker 2: Just had two more games and then see how they
Speaker 2: do it. It's just weird to me. I mean, they
Speaker 2: had it good at sixty four even, blah blah blah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well what about the teams that didn't make it? Every
Speaker 2: year you're gonna have more teams that didn't make it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: every year one hundred and four teams get in. What
Speaker 2: about one hundred and five and six? Get about the phone.
Speaker 6: Just everybody, and let's just play a bit of giant tournament.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of what college sports is going
Speaker 6: to is trying to become anyway, right, is the SEC
Speaker 6: and the Big Ten want to just be themselves. You know,
Speaker 6: they want all the teams in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 6: They want four from each conference. So that's only going
Speaker 6: to leave what, you know, maybe eight other ones. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so that's kind of what what's happening.
Speaker 2: Well here we are, okay, so let me just set
Speaker 2: up the day. We have Kelvin Ephan who does is
Speaker 2: his analyst stuff on twelve ninety each game and before
Speaker 2: and after so we're going to get ahold of him again.
Speaker 3: He does a great job for us.
Speaker 2: And when we talked to him about breaking down some
Speaker 2: of the stuff that's going on or whatever he sees.
Speaker 2: And then the four seventeen hour, one of my favorite guys,
Speaker 2: Evan my Kawa, the guy behind the numbers, my geek
Speaker 2: friend who will rule the world of college basketball at
Speaker 2: some point and soon, yes, he'll take over Ken Palm
Speaker 2: and eat all that stuff up. You were on with
Speaker 2: me last week. He was fantastic. You had never really known, right, Nope,
Speaker 2: And it was a lot of fun to go through
Speaker 2: his analytics.
Speaker 6: So remind us again what the site is, I guess
Speaker 6: Evan Maya, Evan Maya, Evan Mayo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll go through that. He's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: He's out of Texas and you know, had this one
Speaker 2: of the fancy smanchy jobs and he says, I want
Speaker 2: to do this and charge his people X amount of
Speaker 2: money to get on this thing. And all the coaches
Speaker 2: use it, right, all the schools use it, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's a monthly service. And I'm sure he's going to
Speaker 2: have a Ferrari and a mentioned some point, so probably, Yeah,
Speaker 2: live wherever he Yes, just sit there and watch college basketball.
Speaker 3: Yeah you remember the Kansas team that really was bad
Speaker 3: the other night. Yea, So those two and we're going
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to wynding the ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Dave Silver, You're
Speaker 2: Kobe and now we're gonna have Kelvin E.
Speaker 3: Fhon on the phone. Kelvin, are you there? Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2: Perfect timing, Perfect timing, Kelvin, What did you see? We're
Speaker 2: gonna go through two games because I hadn't talked to
Speaker 2: you in a while, but Saturday's game. Let's let's go
Speaker 2: first to last night's game because it's fresh, and we'll
Speaker 2: go back to Saturday.
Speaker 3: What did you What did you make of it? Did
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 2: Were you like whether Tommy's guys, you guys think we're
Speaker 2: gonna get her ask kicked?
Speaker 3: Were you one of those guys?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I wasn't. No, I wasn't at all.
Speaker 18: Man.
Speaker 5: You know, I saw how close those games were. I
Speaker 5: saw the games where they went on a run. It
Speaker 5: just won, like what twelve out of thirteen or something
Speaker 5: like that. So no, I just thought that they ran
Speaker 5: into two good teams and Kansas State needed a victory,
Speaker 5: needed a victory. So they came and brought everything that
Speaker 5: they had, so much that they've lost their.
Speaker 10: Last two games, right, you know.
Speaker 5: So they just came and gave everything, and then again
Speaker 5: the other team takes to take. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: this conference is a tough conference. You're not going to
Speaker 5: go through unscathed. So, you know, as a former player
Speaker 5: a coach, you know, I'm not surprised whenever you in
Speaker 5: these tough battles.
Speaker 2: Do you think that so you've been doing this long
Speaker 2: time in this side of defense, not as an athlete,
Speaker 2: but as as an observer in the in the Drumanism world.
Speaker 2: Do you think that people the general public realizes how
Speaker 2: difficult it is to win on the road and play
Speaker 2: against good teams.
Speaker 18: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, you know, sometimes you get spoiled.
Speaker 18: I mean, coach Filson.
Speaker 5: Spoiled this coach Miller, right and was Lloyd came right
Speaker 5: in with some of the players Coach Midler had and
Speaker 5: you know and has you know, advanced and got more
Speaker 5: players and spoiled us. You know, winning at home all
Speaker 5: the time. You know, getting to the tournament all the time,
Speaker 5: and you know, people want to get back to a
Speaker 5: final four with opportunity to win a championship, but you
Speaker 5: know it takes time. Man, these rosters are getting turned
Speaker 5: over every year. I mean, we have a new guy
Speaker 5: in the starting lineup now, Henry Vasar, so it's like
Speaker 5: the fourth starting lineup. You know, you go back and
Speaker 5: think about it. Coach Lloyd never changed his lineup up.
Speaker 5: I mean maybe one guy, Pela Larson, you know, switching
Speaker 5: back and forth from starting to six man. But usually
Speaker 5: he stinks with his units. I mean, to me, he's
Speaker 5: really coaching up this group. I mean, even last night
Speaker 5: he took guys out. People were talking about how tired
Speaker 5: the guys are, of which I'm sure they are, but
Speaker 5: all the time, all the players on all the teams
Speaker 5: are tired. At this point of the year, right everybody's
Speaker 5: playing thirty thirty thirty five minutes. So I just feel
Speaker 5: like that you saw him take Caleb Love out of
Speaker 5: the game. You saw him take Brawley out even though
Speaker 5: he was in foul trouble, you know, switching guys up,
Speaker 5: saving guys a little minuted for the end of the game.
Speaker 5: I thought, that's why Caleb had that energy to be
Speaker 5: able to get that dunk at the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big guys too.
Speaker 6: It's kind of fun to watch Toby just kind of
Speaker 6: come in and I mean, you know, he said some
Speaker 6: big games. He's done obviously very well with the offensive rebounding,
Speaker 6: the rebounding in general. Did you expect that from him
Speaker 6: coming in from a Tennessee to just kind of, you know,
Speaker 6: work his way into the lineup and really contribute like this.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 5: I did, especially going into the Big twelve. I knew
Speaker 5: we needed a kind of a bully type of rebound
Speaker 5: type of guy, somebody to push people off the block,
Speaker 5: and I thought it was perfect. I didn't know if
Speaker 5: it was going to be him a towsand but I
Speaker 5: seen the efficiency that he played with as far as
Speaker 5: offensive rebounding when he was at Tennessee, and I knew
Speaker 5: that was something that we needed. But his offensive scoring
Speaker 5: has been a little bit of surprise. The putbacks, the
Speaker 5: mid range jumper, the little floater that he does, it's
Speaker 5: been a little bit of a surprise. And his toughness
Speaker 5: has been really needed on this team. And I think
Speaker 5: it's been rubbing off on some of the other big guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, I'm figuring that when Tommy went to
Speaker 2: go get him and talentson to a degree, is we're
Speaker 2: moving into the big twelve. We need someone like that dude,
Speaker 2: those two dudes, because it's gonna be rough and tell
Speaker 2: me right, and here's the issue, And you don't have
Speaker 2: to agree with me, Kevin, but it's an observation I've
Speaker 2: said the last few days and outside of last night.
Speaker 2: So so Arizona's is pretty good, right, we all know that,
Speaker 2: and they are going to be a three or four
Speaker 2: seed going in. But still they're playing with a couple
Speaker 2: of they're playing with their hands, but with one hand
Speaker 2: tied behind their back. Because there's days when Delorso doesn't
Speaker 2: show up and Townson doesn't show up right, and then
Speaker 2: sometimes in that time Caleb doesn't show up. So now
Speaker 2: you have three dudes that aren't doing what they need
Speaker 2: to do. Last night, Delorcio was out of his mind,
Speaker 2: which is great, right, and then Townson didn't do what
Speaker 2: he did, but Caleb was good.
Speaker 3: Again, do you agree with me or do you see
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you?
Speaker 5: Well, I do see what you're saying, But I think
Speaker 5: you have to look at it like this. Caleb is
Speaker 5: facing every team that understands every kid. I ain't gonna
Speaker 5: say kid. All the young men that play against him,
Speaker 5: watch him play in the National Championship game, but like
Speaker 5: three years ago. So they're coming in to stop Caleb.
Speaker 5: They're coming in with their best defenses. They're doubling them everywhere.
Speaker 5: I mean, they're making it tough on him. I mean,
Speaker 5: and coaches, you know, kind of say figure it out.
Speaker 5: So he has to kind of figure it out, you know,
Speaker 5: inside of the flow offense. So I kind of give
Speaker 5: him a pass sometimes, even though I feel like he
Speaker 5: shoots too many threes, especially for a guy that's so
Speaker 5: efficient when he gets in the mid range with his
Speaker 5: pull ups. His floaters haven't been all that, you know,
Speaker 5: they come and go, but the mid range, and when
Speaker 5: he gets aft the way to the rim with the
Speaker 5: left hand, he can even dump the ball. Would love
Speaker 5: to see him get some more back doors, but I
Speaker 5: think they'll also in Townsend. I think we also have
Speaker 5: to give them a little bit of a pass because
Speaker 5: it just got here. This is a huge step up.
Speaker 5: You guys know this better than me. This is not
Speaker 5: you know, I don't care how well that they played
Speaker 5: at the level that they played at, it had to
Speaker 5: be understood that it was going to be some transition time.
Speaker 5: And there also with limited playing time and talentshend with
Speaker 5: being so used to running set offenses. People miss y'all
Speaker 5: don't understand when you're used to running plays that set
Speaker 5: you up to be one on one in the post
Speaker 5: against either bigger guys that are slower than you or
Speaker 5: against smaller guys that emphasized you scoring. He was a
Speaker 5: different guy in that system, and this system is not
Speaker 5: really made for you to get isolated. You have to
Speaker 5: figure it out amongst the flow, and and it comes
Speaker 5: and goes for him. So I think the best of
Speaker 5: him is yet to come. I think we probably see
Speaker 5: the best of him in tournament play.
Speaker 3: Those people are gonna un Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was justa say, Kevin, we're running out of time, man, Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: But you're right. I think if it's not by tournament time,
Speaker 2: then you've kind of, you know, four months later, gamonew
Speaker 2: Gamonel he's done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, man, but it is what it is.
Speaker 5: Is what you got. You can't trade him, you can't
Speaker 5: go into you know, find some new guys, this is
Speaker 5: what you have and you got to make it work.
Speaker 5: They're already down to eight guys really that place, you
Speaker 5: know what he do? You take Townsend and they're also
Speaker 5: out now yet six So you just got to figure
Speaker 5: out what you got.
Speaker 6: How about the emergence of Carter in the last month,
Speaker 6: where do you see him, you know, emerging maybe even
Speaker 6: being you know, one of the one of the main
Speaker 6: guys in the tournament. He's he's pretty mature for a freshman.
Speaker 5: He is he is, and coach played him a little
Speaker 5: bit more as a three yesterday. I like him more
Speaker 5: at the four and uh yeah. I love his catch
Speaker 5: and shoot. I love his intensity on the defensive side
Speaker 5: of the ball, his IQ, his understanding of what they're
Speaker 5: trying to do. I think he's a guy that could
Speaker 5: take off man. And you know, I always tell people
Speaker 5: I'm a little afraid that he plays any better. He's
Speaker 5: definitely not going to be around here.
Speaker 2: You're not You're not alone with that. I think everybody says, okay,
Speaker 2: be good, but just don't be that good.
Speaker 3: It's six assistance, right right, six assists?
Speaker 2: I mean let everybody yeah huge, yeah, so uh what, Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll stay with that they won the game. They're back
Speaker 2: to where they probably need to be. What did you
Speaker 2: make of Saturday's game? Because Tommy was kind of all
Speaker 2: over the map emotionally and otherwise. And you're right, I
Speaker 2: totally agree with this that they paid well enough to
Speaker 2: win the game but didn't. But let's let's put some
Speaker 2: perspective on it. That was one of the top five
Speaker 2: teams in the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean you're facing you were facing the
Speaker 5: team again, Houston, tough defenders, grown men that have been
Speaker 5: playing together for a while. Coach the transfers that he
Speaker 5: do get to fit exactly what he's trying to do.
Speaker 5: So there's no you know, there's no time to get
Speaker 5: to know each other. Like I think U of A
Speaker 5: is still trying to figure out. They're still trying to
Speaker 5: figure out each other a little bit. I mean, you
Speaker 5: have a little connection there with A three of the
Speaker 5: guys would love Bradley and kJ Lewis, but the rest
Speaker 5: of the guys are trying to figure each other out.
Speaker 5: And but Houston, man, you watch those guys.
Speaker 18: That the defensive intensity that.
Speaker 5: They have, the way that they double rotate, it's just
Speaker 5: words on you, man. As that game goes along man,
Speaker 5: and one or two mistakes they get you. And they're
Speaker 5: looking to play games like that, making it ugly, trying
Speaker 5: to get it down to the wire and just see
Speaker 5: if they can make a play or not.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and you and you're well of this.
Speaker 2: Once the tournament happens, guess what happens. Teams start playing
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: That's the game. And that's why I think Arizona has
Speaker 5: been lucky to be in those games. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: been a few of them. We came out on the
Speaker 5: wrong side of. But I think I mean, I hate
Speaker 5: I know people are gonna hate to hear this, but
Speaker 5: I think we lucky because we win those games. We
Speaker 5: win that little tournament, the Bahama Tournament, we win, We
Speaker 5: win those games right there, and then we get in
Speaker 5: the tournament and lose in the first round. I've been
Speaker 5: around for that. You know what that's like, right, So no,
Speaker 5: I'd rather learn my lessons a little earlier in the year.
Speaker 5: You know, we're not finality to it.
Speaker 6: Amazing thing too, is is you know these the n
Speaker 6: A there's not much scouting. You know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, we're playing you know, some team we've
Speaker 6: never heard of. And that seems to be the bugaboo
Speaker 6: in that tournament, not just for the U of A,
Speaker 6: but for almost everybody because it's a it's a crapshoot
Speaker 6: once you get to that point, it is and it's.
Speaker 3: And it's a guard game.
Speaker 5: It's about, you know, who has the guards and the
Speaker 5: chemistry and the team that understands how each other play
Speaker 5: and style of play, and they can come out and
Speaker 5: as I you know, experienced against Miami Ohio, you know,
Speaker 5: went up there and got beat by those guys where
Speaker 5: guys I've never heard of before or after. But you know,
Speaker 5: it's just one of those things when they come in
Speaker 5: with their game plan and hey, they could they can
Speaker 5: knock you out.
Speaker 3: You remember Devin Davis, I know, I definitely remember.
Speaker 5: Bro Man point guard too. He gave Dave. They gave
Speaker 5: Daved Fitz that day. But you know it was more
Speaker 5: to that. You remember a couple of guys were.
Speaker 3: Just being knowing everything and so there was a lot
Speaker 3: going on there, right, Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: Uh, well you're a coach and you used to play,
Speaker 2: so I think one of the things I've learned the
Speaker 2: most is sometimes teams go in with your either over
Speaker 2: confident or not knowing who they're playing, like the Miami
Speaker 2: of the East Tennessee States and blah blah blah. How
Speaker 2: do you as a coach guard against stuff like that?
Speaker 2: Because you know, if you have a good team, like
Speaker 2: a really good team, and they play you know whoever Green,
Speaker 2: you know, a smaller school, you're thinking, don't overlook these guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you remind them. I mean, especially when you
Speaker 5: have those experiences. You know a lot of you know
Speaker 5: a lot of coaches played, so you have a lot
Speaker 5: of experiences and you point to them and you and
Speaker 5: you find games where you know people underestimated people, and
Speaker 5: you can I mean you can just look up and
Speaker 5: down the history of the NCAA tournament and find it.
Speaker 5: And being a former Arizona player, I could point to
Speaker 5: several games myself and just say, hey, guys, this can
Speaker 5: happen to you and you can have the superior team.
Speaker 5: So you know, as a coach, you really guard against
Speaker 5: that when you experienced, you experienced that, you really going
Speaker 5: against that with your guys, man, and you try to
Speaker 5: really be on them. That's why you notice the coaches
Speaker 5: be on the sideline. Okay, you notice that coach Lord
Speaker 5: got very animated when he was talking about you know,
Speaker 5: people think it was gonna get our buck kid, because
Speaker 5: he was letting his guys know. He was talking to
Speaker 5: them more than anybody else. He was letting them know
Speaker 5: that like, hey, if you're not going to be a
Speaker 5: fighter today, I'm gonna find somebody who will because I'm
Speaker 5: not just gonna take you know, getting my behind kicked
Speaker 5: on national TV. So you know, it's just one of
Speaker 5: those things where the intensity kind of picks up with
Speaker 5: the coach when he understands the states you.
Speaker 3: Were gonna say, Dave, we talked about this earlier.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he says this, right, he says, says to
Speaker 2: a group of fifteen twenty in the room, and okay,
Speaker 2: he tells it, but he doesn't tell the kids. Do
Speaker 2: you think the kids knew about it or heard about
Speaker 2: it or whatever?
Speaker 5: Oh yes, Oh yeah, come on, guys, like you know,
Speaker 5: you know, we players try to act like you didn't
Speaker 5: hear the media or you don't look at the social
Speaker 5: media and all the different stuff they're lying. Come on now,
Speaker 5: and especially when your coach is speaking and something like
Speaker 5: that comes out. Your parents are hearing, your friends are hearing.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's talking about you know, you guys. You know,
Speaker 5: he's talking about people think that we're gonna get kicked,
Speaker 5: and and and all. We tough enough, that's what I heard.
Speaker 5: You know, we toughing up when we're gonna fight back.
Speaker 5: Like I heard all that in there as a player,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm listening to him, you know, I'm hearing
Speaker 5: him as a coach, but my player instance are coming on,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, he's challenging us. Yeah, and and
Speaker 5: and I thought they answered the challenge. I thought they
Speaker 5: answered it against Houston.
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, Houston.
Speaker 5: They didn't.
Speaker 3: They didn't.
Speaker 5: They didn't back down to Houston. They was right there right.
Speaker 5: But again, I thought that energy helped them out when
Speaker 5: it got to a tabel or they understood the assignment.
Speaker 5: They they figured out a way to knuckle up again.
Speaker 6: Like we were talking about Tobey, I mean, I don't
Speaker 6: think there's been too many guys like that around here.
Speaker 6: I think if if someone told him, hey, you know,
Speaker 6: you guys are gonna lose, he looked like he was
Speaker 6: just kind of possessed last night. That was not gonna
Speaker 6: happen to him. He took over. Well, he was and
Speaker 6: you know him makes some big plays. Kelvin, I can't remember.
Speaker 6: I think I do remember a little. You played with Rays, right, Ray.
Speaker 2: So he wasn't he wasn't built as big as but
Speaker 2: he had that he had that bite to him. He
Speaker 2: didn't say much, but I'm told he had a bite
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh yeah, I tell anybody it is. There was
Speaker 5: not a player on the U of a team and
Speaker 5: my two years playing and even afterwards, that intimidated me
Speaker 5: more than Ray. I'm not indidated.
Speaker 2: And Kelvin, no one would think that, right because I
Speaker 2: know that because people tell me these things and I
Speaker 2: know you, I know you guys, and they said, I.
Speaker 3: Said, really, he never said it words he was.
Speaker 5: He was a dude, right, You didn't play with Ray.
Speaker 5: You didn't play with Ray at all. You didn't play
Speaker 5: with Ray and all. And he told me one time,
Speaker 5: and he didn't have to tell me again, trust me, well.
Speaker 2: You weren't here for you. And another guy like this
Speaker 2: was Michael Wright and said where.
Speaker 5: Oh no, we didn't play together. But I know you know,
Speaker 5: that's who I think when I think of what Toby
Speaker 5: is bringing with the offensive rebound. Now, Michael White was
Speaker 5: a way more skilled offensive player. Was way more skilled
Speaker 5: offensive player overall. But the rebounding and the toughness and
Speaker 5: being physical. Yeah no, the same type of energy.
Speaker 6: Same basically, that's a good comparison, same type of body,
Speaker 6: like six seven.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember people telling me he would say give me
Speaker 2: the ball and once he got because he had like
Speaker 2: three assistants whole career, once he got the ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, not fast. I always say him. Might
Speaker 5: be him and Michael Dickerson, they're not fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah right right now. What Michael d with the ball
Speaker 3: was pretty damn good. Pretty yeah, I'll be as usual,
Speaker 3: went to many people.
Speaker 2: He had the pad, right as usual to Kevin, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us, talk to you soon.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thanks, good stuff, that fun stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael right rio is no one ever knows but
Speaker 2: about right du yeah about right? Oh yeah no, he
Speaker 2: look at his statsysts really that would disappear. He got
Speaker 2: it low, he was going to the basket.
Speaker 3: All he was good. I like watching him play. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that little left hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's go take a break, come back, maybe
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Speaker 2: Five two o four one six seventy four forty your
Speaker 2: thoughts on the team.
Speaker 3: You know where you like done?
Speaker 2: The Dubson know the world is gonna end on Saturday
Speaker 2: afternoon or now you're back.
Speaker 3: Now it's batter than I do Saturday watch the game again.
Speaker 6: The beauty of being in the position I'm in now,
Speaker 6: I could just turn it off. I don't have to
Speaker 6: write a story and I have to talk about it.
Speaker 6: I don't have to listen to donors complain about the teams.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was, it's kind of nice. It's kind
Speaker 6: of a nice phase of life.
Speaker 3: You have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the problem I have now is because
Speaker 2: after wins, no one everyone leaves me alone, ah blay.
Speaker 2: And when they lose, no one really reads the crap
Speaker 2: because I don't want to don't want to read it.
Speaker 2: But after they lose, like again, like that, you go,
Speaker 2: you go to games, right then you're you're you're not
Speaker 2: where you're working, but you're not working. You start working
Speaker 2: after the game, right. So I get these texts during
Speaker 2: the press conference, you know what the world for the
Speaker 2: next hour, they're texting me, could you leave me alone?
Speaker 2: I need to ask some questions I need to write.
Speaker 2: Don't bother me.
Speaker 3: During this time, and I look forward to those stories.
Speaker 6: I mean, when I was in the media, I would
Speaker 6: anxiously await, you know Greg's Sunday column and your guys
Speaker 6: postgame columns or whatever. I mean, I you know, I
Speaker 6: as a consumer in those years even still so I
Speaker 6: mean it's okay. I mean, do your job, and I
Speaker 6: think people people do enjoy that perspective. We've all watched
Speaker 6: the games pretty much. I don't need a play by
Speaker 6: play recap. Get your guys feelings about that job.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we try to do it And
Speaker 2: thanks for noticing the day. But that's exactly it. It's
Speaker 2: you've already know what happened. Now it's what does it
Speaker 2: all mean? Yeah?
Speaker 6: You know, I think perspective has never been a real
Speaker 6: big thing around Tucson with with you of A athletics
Speaker 6: sometimes where we think it's the only game in town
Speaker 6: and that's it.
Speaker 2: Well that's because I think you've been with me a
Speaker 2: time or two and get a call and I says, oh,
Speaker 2: what the hell you're sensible?
Speaker 3: How did you get through? Most people aren't sensible?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean when you're around as long as we've been,
Speaker 6: you know, you have to kind of just say listen.
Speaker 6: You know they're going to have bad days. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: going to happen. And you're gonna just kept move past
Speaker 6: and let's see what happens next.
Speaker 2: So let me go through some perspective with you, because
Speaker 2: you got here in eighty three the same time that
Speaker 2: Luke did, h and you you knew all about all
Speaker 2: the optimism because I think you had to show somebody
Speaker 2: had a show with them, right, did you guys now?
Speaker 3: But somebody else? Yeah, So he was optimal to get
Speaker 3: your tickets.
Speaker 2: Now, they were pretty bad in that first year because
Speaker 2: you know, Ben Lindsay didn't leave them anything. But how
Speaker 2: was it back there in terms of enthusiasm?
Speaker 3: I think because of him.
Speaker 6: He was such a figurehead and a symbol of the
Speaker 6: basketball program that there was hope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I think again, I got I was lucky. I got
Speaker 6: here literally that that year, just you know a few
Speaker 6: months after he was hired. So I kind of just
Speaker 6: stepped right into it. And I'd heard about the snowed
Speaker 6: in the years, and I'd heard about some of the
Speaker 6: you know, the bob elly at times, and that whole
Speaker 6: key of course.
Speaker 3: Because it wasn't too far, it wasn't too long far
Speaker 3: a long no.
Speaker 6: But there were you know, there were a few down
Speaker 6: years where you know, they weren't. And again it was
Speaker 6: so different because I'm coming from California and knew very
Speaker 6: little about the U of A athletically. I mean, they
Speaker 6: were you know, the games weren't on all the time.
Speaker 6: They were not ever, I didn't know anybody really. Football
Speaker 6: was really pretty good actually that year as I was
Speaker 6: moving here that fall. But like they were saying, with basketball,
Speaker 6: we had no idea what to expect. I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't think anybody could have predicted that this would have
Speaker 6: happened and it would have sustained for all these years.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, and there's one reason why. And I
Speaker 2: was loot because he had he commanded that respect that
Speaker 2: got him. He got him to play hard for them,
Speaker 2: bade them believe that this is possible, didn't leave after
Speaker 2: having a chance or two to do it. And and
Speaker 2: here we are.
Speaker 3: You know, did you winning be you know, winning just
Speaker 3: begets winning.
Speaker 6: I mean he had success, and I'm sure he got resources.
Speaker 6: He was able to travel and recruit and go get players.
Speaker 6: We used to joke like, okay, every year they you know,
Speaker 6: guys would go to the NBA or leave or whatever,
Speaker 6: and you know he would just say, Okay, I need
Speaker 6: a six seven forward who can do this.
Speaker 3: I mean he would literally just go fill that roster
Speaker 3: with what he needed.
Speaker 2: That's a great example, dude, because that's what he was
Speaker 2: brilliant at. Because, uh, and he didn't always go after
Speaker 2: a five star guy. I mean now everyone is consumed
Speaker 2: with the five star, four star. We need these guys, No,
Speaker 2: you don't. You can coach them up, you can play them,
Speaker 2: especially in this basketball world. I think Tommy does that.
Speaker 2: He develops them, despite what you read on you know,
Speaker 2: when he doesn't get Arenas or whomever. But but but
Speaker 2: Luke did this where if you needed a spot to
Speaker 2: feel and you felt that he was going to be
Speaker 2: part of the team, he went and got him. Or
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Kind of like this piece,
Speaker 2: it was a puzzle piece.
Speaker 6: Definitely, And then when you looked at it, I bet
Speaker 6: if we were to like kind of start breaking down
Speaker 6: rosters from you know, over maybe a fifteen year period,
Speaker 6: the players were kind of similar.
Speaker 2: Like he'd get us six six, I'll give you, I'll
Speaker 2: give you Iceress Mills. Okay, the next one is going
Speaker 2: to be You're exactly right. I started a nine ninety
Speaker 2: one current at full time and I'll give you the
Speaker 2: ninety sixteen. I'll give you the ninety six after the
Speaker 2: after the first round loss of the Miami of Ohio
Speaker 2: and they had already been to the final four, right,
Speaker 2: so they got Reggie. I'll give you the lineup Reggie
Speaker 2: who was that point guard guy. He couldn't shoot, but
Speaker 2: he was a point guard guy. Distributed Joe mcclan, Corey Williams,
Speaker 2: Joseph Blair, Ben Davis Ray os so every and they're
Speaker 2: all kind of not tall, six nine ish. Michael Dickerson
Speaker 2: came into as a backup Miles Simon freshman. They were
Speaker 2: freshman at the time. So they all these kind of
Speaker 2: pieces fit to what he needed because he went remember
Speaker 2: with the end of the twin Towers, and he realized or
Speaker 2: the three something it was the three by Whims, and
Speaker 2: he said, you know what, big is overrated. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go small with the Damon's and the Kolids and
Speaker 2: the Reggies and these guys.
Speaker 3: You got a call. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: it fit. It all fit.
Speaker 2: Tommy's doing that now, and like you said, it's gonna
Speaker 2: take some time, and it does.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're on the air and I on the ball.
Speaker 18: Who's this, hey, Steven Dave, how we're doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 18: I was, Uh, I was. Yeah the game.
Speaker 22: I had no doubt they were gonna win last night.
Speaker 22: But I was on the edge of my chair and
Speaker 22: I just I watched that game from start to finish,
Speaker 22: and the Houston game because I didn't go, and I
Speaker 22: just just by watching it, you could tell the two
Speaker 22: guys just were M I A the two or the
Speaker 22: two good player. Y' waka was missing an action? Was
Speaker 22: he must have been in foul trouble? Yeahston and then
Speaker 22: Bradley was pretty much M I A. And but they
Speaker 22: both played like lights out last night.
Speaker 2: There were oh yeah yeah. I think Saturday against the
Speaker 2: Houston d were just gassed.
Speaker 6: I mean walk I had three fouls. He only played
Speaker 6: like he didn't score and he was after fourteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Guy that I'm sure you can go back in games
Speaker 2: in your memory of the performances like Collids against Michigan.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget.
Speaker 5: Uh No, I.
Speaker 2: Forgot v Star's game against against Houston. He was gassed
Speaker 2: and I think he playing out of his mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 22: I just think that this this league is really going
Speaker 22: to help us in and going forward.
Speaker 18: In the NCAAs because it's just tough. It really is
Speaker 18: a minefield.
Speaker 6: I think just as a fan too, the games are
Speaker 6: really exciting, you know. I mean, there's no gotta go
Speaker 6: to Oregon State. What's going to happen there? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: going to win by thirty. I mean these games have
Speaker 6: been pretty competitive, almost every one of them.
Speaker 2: If if if anybody is disappointed in what they've seen
Speaker 2: to this point, they're just not paying attention.
Speaker 18: Okay, now I gotta do your request. Go off on.
Speaker 22: Gave one good thing, one bad thing.
Speaker 18: Okay. What the good thing was? Literally twenty years ago,
Speaker 18: I saw you at a function in a church I
Speaker 18: attended at.
Speaker 5: You know that church?
Speaker 18: Remember remember that church right across from Westward.
Speaker 22: Look, we were your Sunday night deal.
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, it might have been a July fourth thing.
Speaker 18: But we had like a there was like a meal,
Speaker 18: you know, they had food and everything that was I
Speaker 18: think your mom she went there or something.
Speaker 22: That's why you were there.
Speaker 3: We had friends that went there.
Speaker 18: Okay, okay, okay, that.
Speaker 10: Was good.
Speaker 18: Here's the bad one.
Speaker 22: Because I'm gonna call him Dave like Larry King, but
Speaker 22: a different thing because he goes to Howard how Dary
Speaker 22: you say to Howard, what what's the point?
Speaker 5: That's what you said? One?
Speaker 14: What the point?
Speaker 18: I still think that, okay, you know, but whatever. It's
Speaker 18: just like Rush Limbaugh talking.
Speaker 22: To belittling Larry King, when Larry King would say to
Speaker 22: the customer, to the caller.
Speaker 18: What's that question? What's the question? Like an idiot? But
Speaker 18: all right, I'll let you guys go.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, Howard? What was this point? Do
Speaker 3: I remember that? I do remember being there for July fourth.
Speaker 3: There was some kind of a party.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: It was great because Westward looking those years used to
Speaker 6: have an amazing fireworks show. Oh yeah, we used just
Speaker 6: go parking this parking lot right across the street and
Speaker 6: they were like right over your head.
Speaker 2: Howard met me, he said, yeah, I remember back in
Speaker 2: the day we had a card show. You want to
Speaker 2: come to car What the hell? What?
Speaker 6: It's amazing the impact you have on people. Sometimes you
Speaker 6: forget about that. I like it when because we used
Speaker 6: to do like the thing called love of reading, which
Speaker 6: is like now right now and this this week. And
Speaker 6: I did that for many many years. And then later
Speaker 6: I'd meet these college kids like you read to my
Speaker 6: class and you start thinking how old?
Speaker 3: How old? Yeah? How long ago was that?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Do you let me?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a weird question because I saw
Speaker 2: this on the internet today and I guess I might
Speaker 2: ask my boy Coke here and Jay and I talked
Speaker 2: about this Amran again when some people would pass Who
Speaker 2: was your boyhood crush? What your boyhood crushed? Like the
Speaker 2: famous the famous movie star? Oh, I saw it all
Speaker 2: today and it was like, obviously it'll kind of tight.
Speaker 2: Tell me where you like the time you grew up, like,
Speaker 2: you know, tell me the era.
Speaker 3: Like who I liked? Yeah, you just you know what
Speaker 3: was it? Who is yours?
Speaker 22: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, Lavington John But you know there was Ka Welch
Speaker 2: and there was these these you know, I'm you know, twelve.
Speaker 3: Years ald Jane Fond it was pretty hot for years. Wow,
Speaker 3: I even think, oh yeah, because she was like Barbarilla. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: that was out sixty nine is I think sixteen seventy?
Speaker 3: Watch watch watch some of her earlier movies. She was
Speaker 3: she was a beauty. Yeah, she still looks pretty good
Speaker 3: for what is she about? Ninety about eighty three, eighty
Speaker 3: three ds like that? Yeah, what she did? Jazz or
Speaker 3: size stuff.
Speaker 6: Comyanne Keaton was fun to watch in her younger years.
Speaker 6: And The Godfather, Yeah, you know, like in nineteen seventy
Speaker 6: ish twenty one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Kobe, I would have to say Adam Sandler,
Speaker 4: Will Ferrell, even though they're wait, no no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no girl cars. Oh hmm, that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: Rachel Addison because I was a big friends fan.
Speaker 2: Oh Rachel no, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, and Rachel Jennifer
Speaker 2: anis Jennifer Yeah, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 6: That's a good that's a good collection. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 6: got yeah, put me on the spot there. I gotta
Speaker 6: think about it.
Speaker 3: Well, I was saying I was going through something on
Speaker 3: Twitter's depth. Oh that's gotta be cool to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when cal Wels died and then living, you
Speaker 2: know we talked about Yeah, we were like ten twelve
Speaker 2: years old. You're thinking, you know whatever, all right, gotta go,
Speaker 2: gotta go, Thank you, Kobe. We'll get through the first
Speaker 2: hour and then come back with breaking news, right, maybe
Speaker 2: take some more calls and then we're gonna get to
Speaker 2: Evan my cow walked.
Speaker 3: Also