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you doing, Jackson, I'm doing well. Have to be on yes, indeed,

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give me your thoughts on where BYU Basketball stands in

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this Big twelve tournament. Do you think they survive and

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maybe even thriving this big twelfth ternament.

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Speaker 3: How far do they go?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think yesterday was really encouraging. Just what you

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saw probably their best offensive performance of the year. AJ

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obviously had a historic night, but to have the scoring

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that they got from the supporting cast has to be

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the most encouraging aspect, and just hoping that they can

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keep it rolling. The quick turnaround can be tough in

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terms of getting rest and whatnot, but I think it

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helps BYU in this instance, just because one you're used

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to playing on that funky glass floor, but also you

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know you have it's easier to carry the momentum over.

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It's a quick turnaround. You know they're already in the

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groove and you don't have to throw anything off. So

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I think they'll get the job done today if they'll

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probably lose to Houston, and that should lock them into

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a six seed, which you know, all things considered, can

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that was the best case scenario in this tournament. Obviously

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winning the tournament would be cool, but at the same time,

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you'd be spending a lot of energy and effort that

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could probably be best served in the NCAA tournament. But

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to stay a six seed and get a couple of wins,

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and you know, when you add the Big Twelve tournament

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to the season performance, you'd be above five hundred and

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the Big Twelve and you know, win two games, lock

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your seed in. That's that's as good as it gets

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for BYU.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it would be a glorious thing for

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the Coogs to I think, all things consider to be

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a sixth seed, right, because I think there was talk about,

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you know, worst case scenarios BAU possibly getting even to

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a ten seed with the way that they were playing

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at times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, getting wearing the white jerseys on Thursday is huge.

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You want to be the higher seed. Following to a

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ten would have been pretty catastrophic considering everything with the season.

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had Trey Young as a freshman. Obviously there's some parallels

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there with Trey Young being the best player in the

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country but not winning Big Twelve Player of the Year

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that year because Oklahoma was bad in Big Twelve play.

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They made the tournament, they were a ten seed, they

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lost the seven seed Rhode Island with Dan Hurley, and

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now BYU doesn't have to worry about that, right, they'll

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be a sixth seed, They'll be favored in the first

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round and then hopefully you know, the best case scenario

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close to the West coast, maybe more fans show up there,

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and they would play Gonzaga three seed in the second round,

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which you know, Gonzaga is Gonzaga, but they're not a

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Kinzaga of old, right Like there feels like a more

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beatable team this year, and I think BYU matches well

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with them. And I mean ideally b YU would play

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an eleventh seed, maybe a big steeler from from a

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lower league, and then play a fourteen seed in the

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second round. That's probably the best case scenario for BYU.

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play Gonzaga has a three seed and hopefully Bay gets

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the job done there. But yeah, I mean, after yesterday,

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got to feel a lot better about their ceiling and

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their ability to win game than March.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Kansas State is uh is Kansas State

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the worst team in the Big Twelve? Though, I mean,

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what can we learn from that game? Considering who Kansas

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State is? They don't really have a head coach. They

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don't have an identity. There's some good players on the team,

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don't get me wrong, but how much can you really

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read into that Kansas State game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think the biggest thing was b YU

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had an emotional win over Texas Tech. The last time

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they had a top and win, they lost UCF at

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home and which should have been some of the most

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favorable circumstances of the year for BYU. So I think

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it showed that this BYU team, just in a matter

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of weeks has grown a little bit knowing that okay,

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like you can win a game and not let the

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emotional letdown or not let not let the emotional aspects,

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you know, like by you can't even gonna take a

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quick letdown to a team that probably shouldn't beat them, right,

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they did a couple of weeks ago, but they fixed that.

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And obviously Haggarty, I think Haggardy's gonna get his and

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he certainly did yesterday. But BYU did a good job

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towards the end of limiting everybody around him, and that

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was probably the game plan. And I just I just think,

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especially offensively, like no matter what, you doesn't matter who

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you play against, to drop one hundred five points in

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the conference tournament is impressive. I don't care who the

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opponent is, so I just think b YU at the

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same time, like the Kansas State, they're in a weird spot.

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they're playing for the portal. Like I'm sure guys like

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playing with each other. They want to keep it going

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as long as possible. Like you could tell that Kansas

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State was fighting. I don't think they mailed it end

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at all yesterday, and so yeah, I mean, I think

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you can just take some take pride for BYU knowing

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that they just felt like everyone was clicking. It felt

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like the offense was last year at by You peaked

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at the right time, right like just they grew together

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throughout the season and in March they were playing their

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best basketball and yesterday looked like some of their best

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offensive basketball the season. And that's like I said before,

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to have a performance like that in March, and so

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Bay should feel good about that. And like I said earlier,

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it's a quick turnaround and hopefully that helps BYU momentum wise.

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Knowing that they can just keep it going today and

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being able to rest some of their guys in the

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final minutes yesterday. I think rob Right, by the way,

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like getting his twos knocked out might have been a

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blessing in disguise for BYU because they kind of forced

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them to rest him at the end of that game,

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and now he'll have a little more in the tank

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for today. They were able to take aj out with

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a few more minutes, And I know thirty seven minutes

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and forty minutes isn't a huge difference, but I think

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just being able to rest guys and maybe giving them

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that mental like all right, we're sitting the rest of

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the game, so I can go full through out with tomorrow,

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I think that helps PYU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really we kind of feel that way. I kind

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of feel like if Rob Right get to be somewhat limited,

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will he be as aggressive. We've already had issues over

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this season with maybe a lack of effort. He showcased

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what he can do when he's on point, when he's

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high energy, high effort, just balling out. You wonder if

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this injury will limit him at all from an effort standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Give me your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe he starts out a little more cautious,

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a little more calculated in his effort, not effort, but

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maybe just doesn't have to dial it up to eleven,

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doesn't have to be as aggressive early, and then kind

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of the way however the game plays out, maybe he'll

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adjust accordingly. Right, Like By's been kind of a slow

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starting team throughout the season. Maybe they're just I don't know,

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it's just I think I think Rob has put some

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good deposits in the bank to where you know you

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can count on him the effort or the energy. Maybe

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a few times its dips, but it's the conference tournament.

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You know you're playing for something. BYU just I just

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think that the circumstances making a different. The circumstances make

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it different, right, And I think Rob will be able

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to play accordingly. And like I said, maybe it's a

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little more calculated. Maybe it's a little more cautious early,

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but I'm sure if he has the ball in his

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hands late with a chance to win, you know he's

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not gonna hold anything back. So hopefully they numb him

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up and his tooth doesn't bother him too much and

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he can go out and play some good ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson, I was just looking at Lunardi's latest bracketology

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for BYU. They're a six seed, but they'd be matched

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up in Portland. Okay, that's good, right, a lot of

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BYU fans out there, good lgs contingent, they'd match up

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against Miami of Ohio, and then in the round of

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thirty two, it looks like they'd get Gonzaga or UC Irvine,

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most likely Gonzaga.

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Speaker 3: Is that a good thing? Would that be a good

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thing or a bad thing?

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Speaker 2: Going to Portland facing Miami of Ohio and then possibly

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facing Gonzaga.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, I think it

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is probably the most favorable three seed that they could play.

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I think BYU matches up well with Gonzaga. I don't

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think this is as good a good Zaga team as

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they've had in recent years. Santa Clair was giving them

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some trouble yesterday in the WCC title game. You know,

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I think BYA could go in and get the win

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over in Zaga if they had the opportunity in Portland.

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Is there'll be a ton of in Zaga fans there, obviously,

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but there'll be a ton of YU fans too. As

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for Miami of Ohio. Like, look, Miami of Ohio is

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the best story in college basketball this year. It's been

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really fun to watch them. I've watched a ton of

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their games because I've been ranking them in the poll

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every week, and I really like the Nerf Fund team

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and they're everything good about college basketball. I don't think

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they've played a team with BYU's length and athleticism, kind

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of similar to VCU last year and BYU match up

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with them in the first round where it's like, all right,

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this is a really good team, great defense, the effort

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and the stats are there, but you know, VCU hadn't

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played the team with BYU's caliber, and it showed, you know,

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BYU's playing with VCU down the stretch of that game,

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and so I think that's kind of the same with

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Miami of Ohio. But at the same time, like all

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the pressure goes on BYU in that moment where it's like,

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you know, Miami of Ohio, everybody wants to see, like

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what they can do in the tournament if they're a fraud,

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if they're real, and BYU suddenly gets put in the

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spot where it's like, oh no, like we have to

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you know, by you have to figure out how to

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get the job done, and it's a tough spot to

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be put in for both for both sides, right, like

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b YU has the best player in the country, Miami

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of Ohio would have to beat them, but also by

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you has to be no defeated team. Like It's just

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be smart enough knowing like, all right, we want Miami

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of Ohio to play longer because it's a cool story,

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but we also want the best player in college basketball

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to play longer. So hopefully they wouldn't knock one of

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them out in the first round by matching them up

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with each other. But I just think it would be

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the off the court kind of mental stuff with playing

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Miami of Ohio is would be crazy. And then hopefully,

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you know, if BYU does get the job done there,

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they could play a little more loose against KAZAG and

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get the upset. I think that's kind of what helped

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to beat Wisconsin last year, where it's like, you know,

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there was a stigma by always loses in the first round.

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They beat VCU, the monkeys off their back and they

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go in against Wisconsin, and that first half Againt Wisconsonant

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was the best half of basketball they played all year,

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and so I really think, you know, if they can

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get that first round win over I seem like Miami

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of Ohio, it helps them against Uzzaga. But at the

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same time, as at a college basketball fan, I don't

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want to see you why you played Miami Ohio because

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I want to see both of those teams playing in

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the second round. So hopefully that doesn't end up being

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the draw, but if it is, it'll be interesting for sure.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Payne dest Red News here on a cougar bead,

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little college basketball, college football conversation here on your Utah

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ESPN Radio network. I do want to discuss with your

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Camp Killani and some of the storylines coming out of

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Camp Killane would have been the main storylines you've been

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intrigued by.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I haven't been able to go the

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last couple of times with basketball and everything. But obviously

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I think the defense, like with Kelly Popeinga, I don't

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think there's gonna be any crazy changes. They kept a

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lot of the same guys. Sounds like the scheme and

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the philosophies will kind of stay the same, but on

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the offensive side of the ball, right like with Parker

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Kingston Gong. We don't have to dive into that, but

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just the wide receiver room, like who's gonna step up,

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who's gonna emerge guy. There's been some flashes from Kyler

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Kasper that have been encouraging. How obviously he stays healthy,

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can help Uyu Jojo Phillips. You know you've seen flashes

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of brilliance from him at Byu, But can he stay healthy?

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Can he take that step and be the number one guy?

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The tight ends, the Saliplaga and Lions, I think they're

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gonna be a big part of the offense. Running back obviously,

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you know Lger Martin's hurt, but you got to get

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some guys around him. You got to get a supporting

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cast in the backs to maybe take some of the

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load off him and backup quarterback too. I mean, this

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is a very I mean I think everything with this

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year in with spring ball is just building depth. And

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I think that's the same for every year, but especially

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this year, Like you got to flesh out your receiver room.

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to you know, do their job, got to make sure

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the running backs can support LJ and then backup quarterback.

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I think the fact that BYU's had their starting quarterbacks

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start every game of the season in the past two

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years is tremendous, but it's also kind of fluty. Like

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BYU historically, their quarterbacks get hurt, and I know the

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supports signed from the training team are doing a good

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jobs keeping them healthy. But I think it's more likely

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than not that you're gonna see a You're gonna see

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a backup quarterback at some time this year. Hopefully Bear

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stays healthy, right, but with how physical his style of

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play is and just the grind of having just played

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fourteen games last year and big tool football, like, who

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knows what's gonna happen, You can't you can't count on

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a health ever, and so I just think at some

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point you might see some backup quarterback action. And so

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Trayson Borge he's the veteran, he's been at UY a

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few years. Enick Watson he's the freshman. He's off a mission.

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He's got some really intriguing talent. I mean, watching them

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in fulk in spring ball is definitely kind of intriguing

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my eye, just because you know, like I said, you're

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probably gonna see one of them in battle this year,

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and so hopefully what they do is encourages you for

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when that time comes potentially.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about, you know, A j and

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and his productivity.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was very mature of him. In the

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post game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Chancellor Johnson was

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interviewing him and Chancellor said, essentially any if he had

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any qualms with not being the Big twelve Player of

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the Year, and in a very mature fasts like, look, yeah,

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I mean I thought I could have got it, but

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they give or gave credit to the best team with

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and arguably the best player on that team that that

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led him, and we're a losing team where we're a

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five hundred team. I thought I was pretty mature of

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him to react in such a way.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, look, I

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think the widespread opinion has been A j should have

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been a Player of the Year, and if not AJ,

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then J T toppin, if not JT Topping, then Joshua Jefferson.

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It's like Jayden Bradley wion'ly be a First Team All American,

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like a full disclosure, I vote for the All America teams.

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I didn't have Jayen Bradley on my All America ballot,

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and I think he's a great player. I would have

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voted him First Team All be Twelve, but he's not.

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Like I just think it's a lifetime achievement, you know,

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veteran senior leader on the best team in the conference,

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and that's not what the award should be. And you

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know there's a precedent for this, right like when I

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talked about Trey Young earlier, But when Trey Young was

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at Oklahoma, he was the first player in history to

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lead the country in points and assists, Like he was

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the scoring leader and the assists leader. And he wasn't

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Big Twelve Player of the Year because Oklahoma went eight

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and ten and they lost the first round of March

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and so and they and they picked the best player

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on the best team, which was Kansas. All that is

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to say, I get why they picked Bradley, And I

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think Sean Farnam and Bye team was talking about how

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you know, Topping and aj probably got a lot of votes,

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but Bradley took away votes from both of them, and

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It's just it was kind of a weird votes thing.

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But AJ handled it great, right, b Yu. Maybe they

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dropped some games they shouldn't have. The UCF loss was inexcusable.

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I still think the Oklahoma State loss was inexcusable. B Yu.

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Did not deliver the team that that I think AJ

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was was hoping for. But I think they can still

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have their I think they can still make some magic

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happen in March and still be a memorable season. But

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I agree with AJ, right he. I just think he's

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so mature. I think he's passed every test that BYU

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with flying colors. All this talk about the r o

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I not being U, the r O Y not being

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worth it for AJ is just it's it's ridiculous. I

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think the AJA experiment or experience at BUYU is gonna

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slam dunk, And I'm I'm getting sick of people trying

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to tell me the opposite, because I think everything that

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AJ has done, I mean, he's been an incredible player.

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He led the country in scoring so at all time

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UYU season. He's been a force for good off the court.

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He's he's changed the way that BOU basketball is viewed

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and now you're seeing guys like Bruce Branch come to

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BYU like AJ is a trailblazer at BYU. He's helping

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transform the way that by has perceived across the country.

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And I know that BYU probably isn't the final four

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team for whatever reason that many people thought they could

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be this year. But I think the impact of what

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A j. De Bonsa did this year at BUYU will

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be felt for years to come. And I think that's

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the biggest thing a bubble. So he should have been

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the big twel player of the year. I get why

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they chose Bradley. I don't agree with it, but I

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think the way that AJ handled it was was very

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mature and more than anything, it's a blessing in disguis

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for BYU because it lit a fire under him, like, Okay,

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I am the best player. I'm gonna show you in

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the court. And he definitely saw that yesterday against Kansas State,

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and look, I want to bet against a Jed March.

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I think he just he takes his game to another

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level when the stakes are highest. You saw in Madison

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Square Garden, You've seen it in some many these big

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moments this year, and so I just think he loves

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the spotlight, and you know by will be in the

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spotlight in March and he's going to deliver.

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Speaker 3: Jackson.

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Speaker 2: You know that that particular articulation, it reminded me of

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a tweet that you put out after the last big

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win versus Texas Tech at home.

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Speaker 3: You said, this is why you never give up give

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up on the season. Did you feel that like Cougar

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Nation or who did you feel was giving up on

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the seasons in particular?

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Speaker 4: You know, I just felt like there was some talk like,

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you know, just fast forward a football season, like it

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didn't work out, blah blah blah, Like I think there

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was some name saying And I don't want to blame

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anyone for that, because you know, after some of those losses,

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like it was tough, like part of being a fan

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is riding the ups and the downs, and I think

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the downs were just feeling such so brutal for Byu

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that it was like, I don't blame anybody for having

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the thoughts to maybe jump ship or stop leaving. But

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you know, I know people don't want to police storming

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the court, but Bo, you beat a top ten team

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at home, and they did on Senior night, like I

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think it is there. I think it merited a court storming. Obviously,

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Boop was waving for fans to come on the court

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and join.

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Speaker 2: Them and party.

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Speaker 4: And it's just one of those things like you know

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BYU lost three really dumb games in a row and

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then they beat a top ten team at home. And

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I know Texas Tech they don't have a top and but

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BYU doesn't have Saunders, right and Texas Tech has been

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winning games without top and BYU without Saunders, you know,

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the results hadn't been as positive. So I don't want

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anybody to try and take away the shine off that

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win because it was a really impressive win of the

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hard fought win. I think the biggest thing is you

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saw that BYU got its fight back and got its

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group back. And to have a scene like that where

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people are storming the court and it's a celebration, it's

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a night to remember. Like those are the things that

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lasts forever, Like how long have we been talking about

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the Gonzaga win in twenty twenty or Jimmer it against

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San Diego State like that Texas Tech win for better.

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I mean, it's not on that level, but there'll be

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a night that people at BYU, who are at that

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game will be talking about forever and so to have

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a moment like that that's going to stand that test

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of time. Like that's why you don't give up on

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the season, because anything can happen. I think about trying

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to remember the coach's name, Dan Monson. He was at

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A He was at Long Beach State for a long time.

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He got fired before the conference tournament. They had a

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bad year, but then they won the conference tournament and

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made the INSA tournament, and it was this crazy thing, like,

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you know, you could you could have given up all

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the season then, but they went on a run. They

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defied the odds and they did something incredible. They went

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to the tournament as a like the ten seed in

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their conference or whatever. So it's just one of those

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things like just it's it's the Jimmy Valvano, right, It's

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that don't ever give up, don't ever give up, Like

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just anything can happen in sports, and that's what makes

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it so beautiful. That's why I love telling the stories

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about him. So I don't I don't blame people for

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for having some pessimism and feeling maybe as if the

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the the good days of bya basketball had passed them by,

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but you know, BYU of credit to Kevin Young and

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his staff, credit for the players, credit to Richie Saunders

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for whatever he's doing on the bench to get BYU

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wins whenever he's there. Like, it's just been amazing to

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see them kind of respond to the adversity and come

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out and maybe reinvent themselves and then rediscover their fights. So

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I mean BYU, like BYU fan had every right to

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maybe be pessimistic or be down on the Cougars, but

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you know, Ba's proved them wrong. They figured out a

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way to get the win, and I just it's been

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amazing to see them with more of that spark, more

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of that fight since that text.

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Speaker 2: Second, love that perspective. Jackson Bret your Mark yesterday said

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that the Big twelve deserves eight to nine bigs. He

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stated that if you're five hundred or above in the league,

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you should get in Cincinnati's you know, top twenty five

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and analytics. Since December, West Virginia has been flirtatious right

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there at the five hundred mark, and they did lose

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the Kansas State to kind of end the year, but

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they got to win over UCF. What do you think

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how many bids do you think the Big Twelve deserves

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in this NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have a number off the top of

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my head. I have to look at it, but I

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do think like, if you can go over five hundred,

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Like I just remember that first year when YUS in

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the Big Twelve, they went ten and eight, I want

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to say with Mark Pope, and that was a huge success. Wow,

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you went over five hundred to the best basketball conference,

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the deepest basketball conference in the country. Going over five

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hundred is definitely something to pat yourself on the back about.

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And I think if you go over five hundred and

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the Big twelve ods are, you probably should be the

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inst of the way tournament. But obviously, like look BYU

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went five hundred and the Big Twelve, their non conference

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is probably what kept them safely in the field with

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their wins over people like Villanova, Miami, Clemson. So you

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have to if we're going to use that logic to

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keep EYU in the tournament, we got to use that

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logic to maybe keep some other people out of the

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tournament too. And I want as many Big twelve teams

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as possible in the tournament obviously, but if you had

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some bad losses earlier that are hurting your metrics, like

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I don't know, like that should probably be weighing as well.

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But at the same time, like if you look the

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part of the tournament team down the stretch, you should

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probably be in as well. Like BAU women's basketball. BA

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women's basketball has been amazing as of late, and they've

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had some bad losses too, but you know, they ended

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the year looking like a tournament team, And so I

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think it's a weird balance to strike, you know, like

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you want to take the whole season as as what

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it's worth, but also you want to make sure the

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I tests, Like I think the Big Twelve has the

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most teams playing looking like tournament teams right now, clearly,

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like there will be teams that don't make the tournament

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that look like they should be, but they won't be,

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and that's just how it goes. And so look, the

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Big Twelve I think re established itself as the best

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basketball conference in America this year. And I mean, look,

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Arizonaica win the national title, Houston win the national title.

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I always say could go to the Final four. Like

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it's just there's a lot of reasons for optimism in

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the Big twelve and hopefully there's eight or nine, maybe

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ten teams representing the conference as a result.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that stood out to me final

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thing the formulation Yo Jackson, I believe Rob Wright has

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gone on record and essentially stated that he's either going

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pro or coming back to Provo Capitol pro lowercase Vo

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next season. That would be massive news to get Rob

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right the third back at b YU.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think it's it's it's one

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of those things where it's like anything can change in

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a moment, right And I think as of now, I

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have to take it for the timing, right Like, as

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of now, that's his planned. Maybe he changes his mind,

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maybe things stay the same. I don't know, but as

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of right now, he wants to stay in Provo, and

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that's what he said, and so got it. Take it

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for his word. So hopefully he's back, because he would

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be a great you're losing Rich, you're losing aj Who,

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you're losing Kiba. If you could keep one of your stars,

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maybe Davis coming back, but I don't know. If you

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can keep a starter at Provo for next year, I

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think that'd be a huge, huge boost for YU, so

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we'll see how that shakes.

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Speaker 3: Out, Jackson. Best way to support you, what you do,

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how you do it for all of our listeners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Jackson

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five pain and read the des Right News every day.

554
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We've got a lot of YU content coming out from

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jjur and myself. So yeah, thanks for all the support.

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Speaker 2: As always, you guys do great work. Appreciate you Jackson,

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great content. It's always thanks for the conversation.

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Speaker 4: All right, Appreciate you bens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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