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It looks like from the pro day and the combine

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performs the most athletic long snapper coming out of the

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two thy and twenty six draft class. We got former

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BYU long snapper specialists and a former tight end at

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American fork By. It's not just the loxact. He was

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a tight end once part of the time. We got

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Garrison rhymes on the light Garrison, How the heck are you, buddy?

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Speaker 6: I'm good I'm good. Thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 3: A pleasure of blessing talking ball with you today. Number

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one kudos man. What a pro day man? I you

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know the the the number that came down from b

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YU on their laser time. I think it was a

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four or five two that they clocked you at. That

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is blazing fast for a long snapper. How would you

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evaluate your pro day? Brother?

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Speaker 6: I think it was good.

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Speaker 5: I mean obviously, you know, I think God's blessed to

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you with the talents to be able to perform how

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I did along with you know, my staff, abe I

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youth phenomenal like Skyler Maine all then got me right.

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But like I said, I think I I think I

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performed well. Obviously with with the coaches, the dad, and

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growing up in that environment, it's hard to feel satisfied

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about everything, But you know, I think I did well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, congratulates a lot of work, a lot of heart,

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the blood, sweat and tears, a lot of coaching by dad,

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a lot of coaching by coaches throughout all this time,

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and the culmination to a degree of your collegiate career.

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Now moving on to the NFL, tell us a little

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bit about the offseason. Then once you got done with

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the season, what a tremendous season. It was a twelve

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and two year? Was it everything?

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Speaker 5: Real quick?

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Speaker 3: Was it everything you hoped for when you arrived at BYU?

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When you came out of the portal and ended up

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at by You came from Baylor, you had success there,

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you had a great experience. But was BYU everything that

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you would hoped it would be in that one year?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was awesome, truly a blessing, kind of a homecoming.

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You know, like you said, went to high school here.

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the team. I knew coach Kilani and a lot of

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the other coaches from what my dad was here, so

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super easy transition. And then obviously having a very successful

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football year two makes it all with it too. And

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it's just such a fun thing to be a part of.

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halftime and not doubt that you're gonna win. Those are

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the fun season. So yeah, it was truly a blessing,

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great staff, awesome environment.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it was. It was great.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're grateful that you're a part of a monumental season.

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what did you where did you go, Where did you

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start training, What were the goals, how did you need

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously for a specialists it's it's very different than

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they need there for me, and you know, a specialist position,

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there's so many different coaches that have little things that

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you can take back with you. So I would travel

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thing and then that was with coach Donner, and then

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and that was cool expiance. I was there nine days.

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Speaker 5: I also had a coach that lived in Frisco that

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I went and saw a few times. And then obviously

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trained for combine up after that, and then came back

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and got ready for proback.

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Speaker 3: So pretty quick, I mean, it goes by fast. But

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did you feel like you made a lot of progress

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in that time? Did you learn a little bit more

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about yourself? Did you refine your skill set?

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you know, coming for a long snapper,

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fully prepared for what the next level brings just so

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different schematically wise. But I think I learned a lot,

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and I've prepared as much as I can up to

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this point for what's to come. But yeah, I definitely

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learned a lot. It's more more than what I thought

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it was, for sure. But it's it's been a good process.

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I've really enjoyed it, and uh, yeah, it's been good.

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Speaker 3: Who did you end up going with your agent and why?

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are like really good at at placing getting guys drafted,

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finding undrafted free agent best spots out there in the

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agency world for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the agent I went with, his name is Brits Henderson.

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Him and his dad have a family business it's called ISA,

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of the the big names like Patrick Manneley and some

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of these other big snaw names. But one of the

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biggest things that stuck out to me with him is

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there's a lot of agents that will try to make

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you kind of verbally commit during season and stuff, and

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you're not technically allowed to do that, but everybody kind

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of does it. And you know, Brooks was like, that's

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not how we roll, Like, I'm not gonna, you know,

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twist the rules at all. We're going to keep it professional.

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which is what kind of drew him to me. And

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then I mean, yeah, the thing with snappers and getting drafted,

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you know, there might be one every five to ten

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years that gets drafted, but it's very rare. Obviously, you

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know that's the goal, but I also have realistic expectations

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and just want to find the best situation for me

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and where I'll be able to succeed at I mean.

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Speaker 3: What's the landscape light right now? For long I mean,

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you got one long snapper on every single team in

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the NFL. Is anyone getting old? Is anyone injured right now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's a relatively good year for snappers. The

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thing is is, you know, you can be a snapper

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and you can kind of get onto a team and

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rot there. Like we had one of the guys that

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his name is John Weeks. He played for the Texan

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for the last fifteen seasons and he was on the

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forty nine ers this last year and just signed another

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year extension. So you know, you can be in the

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league for however long your body allows it, if you're

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able to do the job at a high level. But

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that definitely makes it more difficult to get in. Right,

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there's only thirty two in the world, and there's not

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any snappers that are on the practice squad, so truly

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only is one guy per team. So you know, wherever

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I go, obviously I'm going to be competing, whether it's

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a team bringing in two young guys and I'm competing

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against another rookie, or if it's a team that just

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signed a you know, a vet, but they're looking to

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maybe go younger if the rookie is able to perform

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at a high level. So you know, wherever I go,

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I'm just getting into my right or the right mindset

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to compete. But I'd say it's really there's you know,

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probably five teams or six teams that will bring on

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a new snapper. But I'd say by the end of

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cuts and end of preseason, there'd only be one or

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two teams that you know, kept that rookie as their guy.

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So yeah, it's tough tough thing to get into. But

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you know, like I said, I feel like God's blestening

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with the talents to be able to do at the

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next level. So yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you bring up Josh John Weeks. Uh you

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said John Weeks, right, Yeah, yeah, he So I went

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to high school with John. I graduated oh one, yeah,

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Mountain Ridge, and I think he was because he was

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a four year later. He trying to think, Well, Richie

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and then I think Weeks was my long snapper my

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senior year when he came in as a true freshman,

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because Richie and John were both coached up by Ben Bernard.

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He's like a long snapping guru. He was our strengthen

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editioning coach and long snapper. I don't know if you've

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heard that name, Ben Bernard, but he was the coach

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for he was like specialty and in long snapping. So

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I had forgotten that John had actually attended Baylor as

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a walk on and then balled out obviously been to

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the league forever.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's insane. Seventeenth year, so it is a certa.

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Speaker 3: I think a former BYU, a former B what you

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long snapper and defensive end John Denny with with with

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the Miami Dolphins for like eighteen years, Like it's crazy,

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Like how do you unseat these guys?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy. You you gotta be able to do everything

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they want you to do. And if you can do

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that as a rookie then and they'll take you. But yeah,

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it's a crazy process.

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Speaker 3: Well, with that being said, it's like are you going

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to continue? Like, hey, are you going to continue to

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long snap? Two three years? To say, say, like NFL

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doesn't work out this year? Do you keep long snapping

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while you're kind of making money doing other things?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: And because I remember Matt Hayward, he was another one

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of our long snappers. It was maybe it was him

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and Richie Mett. Hayward ended up at Glendear Community College

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after he graduated from Mount Ridge and then after one

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year went to USC and won like two national championships

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with USC as a long snapper, and then he was

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in uh in Glendale and he was still trying out

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for an additional two years before He's like, all right, now,

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I'm just gonna move on. So what's the game plan there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I've thought about that. A guy that I

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was able to connect with this this postseason. His name

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is Zach Triner. He actually did not He played lacrosse

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in college and kind of knew how to snap, and

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then after college he spent four years training but didn't

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get on a team, and then he just finished his

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seventy year snapping in the NFL and he just signed

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with the Dolphins just a couple of days ago. So

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that's kind of the thing that I'm you know, I'm

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just be praying for God's direction and see what I

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feel like his plan is. But yeah, i'd say a

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couple of years for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, in those couple of years, Like,

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alternate leagues out there, like the UFL or the Canadian League, Like,

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are those viable options for you to be putting out

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film and showcasing talent? Does the NFL? Do you know

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if the NFL notices those if they if that's a

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viable way.

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Speaker 6: To do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely possible. I haven't heard of

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a lot of those situations, you know, the guy going

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to the UFL or XFL then he gets called up.

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would just come down to my situation, what I'm doing

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for a job at the time, and because the thing

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with you know, NFL is you've got to stay ready

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to Like if say I get a couple of workouts

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and teams like me, but they want to keep their

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vet that they have. You know, he may get hurt

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week four and then they called me and I got

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to be ready to go in that week. So that's

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kind of the mindset I would have during that time.

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football NFL Cougar's in the pro segment brought to you

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by Dental Pros of Utah Dentalprosoutah dot com. You went

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to the East West Shrine, Boll, you went to the Combine,

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and you've done your pro day. You know, how cool

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of an experience has it been. How enriching of an

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experience has it been to be at the the you know,

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the Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Day. I mean, these are

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all fun spectacles, like competitive environments. There's a lot of

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enrichment and a lot of just Corterisoll levels as well. Man,

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it's stressful, it is.

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Speaker 5: And you know, to be honest, I haven't really dealt

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with stress kind of like I have this off season.

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front of you know, sixty thousand fans one hundred thousand

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fans than it is, you know, with thirty two NFL

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teams watching every snap taking notes on them. So it

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was definitely stressful, but also like good stress, you know,

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like to be able to say I'm stressed because NFL

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teams are watching me. Like that's such a blessing at

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the end of the day. And that's something that my

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mom and dad have been able to keep me grounded during.

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It's just how much of a blessing it is and

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being grateful for every opportunity, and you know, my dad

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being a coach. I love competing, So whether it's at

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these showcases or the Combine or pro Da, whatever, it is, like,

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I'm gonna go out there and compete and have fun.

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at the end of the day for most of these experiences.

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But now it's been really fun just seeing like the

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best of the best, like the East West game, seeing

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a couple of my old teammates that were there, and

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seeing guys against you know, other teams that I've played against,

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all their best players out there and then watching them.

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Speaker 6: Play a game like it's so cool.

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Speaker 5: And then same at the Combine too, So definitely blessing

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to be a part of all of them. Kind of

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surreal to like my younger self wouldn't I don't know

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how surprised he would be. That sounds super bustful. I

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don't mean to sound ustful, but obviously that's been my

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goal as a kid growing up.

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Speaker 6: But it is.

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Speaker 5: It is very surreal.

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Speaker 6: It's cool.

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Speaker 3: Many blessings to you and your fam. Yeah, what what feedback?

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What comments? What coaching? His uh his grimy Papa grimey

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giving you through this process.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, obviously technique wise, he was, in my opinion,

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you know, the best the line coach there was there

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is and now he's offensive coordinator. But he is able

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to give me some blocking advice because that's the biggest

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thing going to the next level was are you able

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to snap the ball and then get your head up

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click and block a you know, starting NFL linebacker that's

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going to be coming through the a gaps, twisting, whatever

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it may be. So having him there is just like

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a safety net of like, hey, if there's something that

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I don't understand, I have a resource.

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Speaker 6: Available, right.

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Speaker 5: But I'd say outside of that, the biggest thing is

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just mentally and spiritually him being that leader for me

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because he's had you know, he's at Wisconsin this last year,

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in Kansas the year before, and he's had some a

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couple of tough seasons back to back, but you know,

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his attitude hasn't really changed. She's still grateful for all

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the situations he's in, and that's just because of his faith.

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And that's something that's been able to keep me grounded

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during this time of like, hey, you know, if it

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doesn't work out, that's okay, That's what God's plan is,

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which kind of takes some of the pressure off and

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then at.

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Speaker 6: That point you're able.

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Speaker 5: To perform better. So it's been great having him in

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my corner this whole time. And you know, like I said,

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it's truly a lessens What.

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Speaker 3: Was your favorite experience while you're at b YU right

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this year, Like when you ponder on the enriching experiences

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he had in Provo and playing for BYU, would you

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gonna recall when you you know, take a take a

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glance back and and revere those times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think most by U fans would agree with this.

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But my dad was here and I think two thousand

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and five, and I was just a young kid at

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that time, and we always called, you know, Utah the

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stinky Utes when I was.

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Speaker 6: A kid, So from a young age, from a.

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Speaker 5: Young age, I didn't really like him, and then coming

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back and you know, having that huge rivalry game at

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home in Probo that you know, I was a part

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of being able to win that game like that was

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that was really special. And by our unit and our team,

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we're so close and you know, the brotherhood that we have.

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Everybody talks about it, but it is truly different here

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at by U and it was so fun to be

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a part of.

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Speaker 6: And I think that game, you know, it's hard. It's

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hard to beat that game.

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Speaker 5: Like there's other games that are fun, you know, the

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close ones at the end. The Pop Tart Bowl was

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so fun, but Utah game is probably my favorite.

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Speaker 3: Such a great game, fantastic memories, fantastic time. What is

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it like when you're if you're going to pitch these

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recruits during this process? Obviously you got pitched, You got

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recruited to a number of schools. You ended up a Baylor.

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What a great school that was education wise, spiritually, et cetera,

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and in football wise. You know, what's the pitch to

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come to BYU? Would you say, what's like the marketing

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pitch to these recruits that are valuating b YU over

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other power for institutions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you know, a lot of young

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guys coming out of high school motivat are motivated by

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the money aspect of it, especially now you know Nio

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is kind of out of control and it's just everybody's

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trying to get their bag, everybody's trying to get paid.

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But you know, the money can only motivate you so much.

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As soon as you get into off season and you

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get in the fourth quarter drills and everything, you know

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you're going through the heat of it.

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Speaker 6: That money kind of stakes your mind, right, Like you have.

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Speaker 5: To really you have to really love the game, love

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where you're at, and love the coaches that are coaching you.

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And I think that's a big thing. Like there's nowhere

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that's more beautiful than here in Provo. I mean, the

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stadium's right against the mountains, there's a ton of stuff

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to do here, it's very you know, family friendly, it's safe.

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And then the staff who is phenomenal, Like you're not

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gonna find a head coach that's more brought into football

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in the relationships than Toronie Stockey, Like he's truly one

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of a kind and his fit here is so perfect

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at BYU, And I think that's why it's so successful

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is because the players love him and he loves the players.

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That's that's kind of what it comes down to at.

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Speaker 6: The end of the day.

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Speaker 5: And obviously the football part of it, right Like you

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can have all that other stuff, but you know, the

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science behind why we do what we do in the

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lifting world, and obviously the positional coaches, all of that

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feeds into having a successful football program. And I think

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the you know by us on their way to creating

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a dynasty right now. And I think that you know

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stems from town Stockey. So I think that that's that

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would be my pitch, Tom.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great pitch. I think it's on point,

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and it comes from a very valid, incredible source, very

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articulate one at Dad Garrison Grimes. Great catching up with you, man,

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I'll be watching you. Congratulations on all of your success

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up to this point. I think there's a place for

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you in the NFL. And I think that that top

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end speed. I mean, you're already a great long snapper.

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Obviously you're gonna have to get off blocks, et cetera,

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and weave your way downfield. I think that top and

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speed is gonna help and probably improve your draft stock.

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You're undrafted free agent stock uh in this process. So

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congratulations all your success man, uh and uh you know,

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grateful that you got to rep the y your senior year.

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We wish you could have had you could have been

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here for four or five years.

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Speaker 6: Okay though, all right, you.

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Speaker 3: Know we lost out on you for a few years.

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But he was great having me here in provo.

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Speaker 6: Brother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah Sair, thank you catching up Garrison.

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Speaker 3: Sale over to your pods for me. Always love and

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appreciate him. All right, man, have a great rest of

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