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It looks like from the pro day and the combine
performs the most athletic long snapper coming out of the
two thy and twenty six draft class. We got former
BYU long snapper specialists and a former tight end at
American fork By. It's not just the loxact. He was
a tight end once part of the time. We got
Garrison rhymes on the light Garrison, How the heck are you, buddy?
Speaker 6: I'm good I'm good. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3: A pleasure of blessing talking ball with you today. Number
one kudos man. What a pro day man? I you
know the the the number that came down from b
YU on their laser time. I think it was a
four or five two that they clocked you at. That
is blazing fast for a long snapper. How would you
evaluate your pro day? Brother?
Speaker 6: I think it was good.
Speaker 5: I mean obviously, you know, I think God's blessed to
you with the talents to be able to perform how
I did along with you know, my staff, abe I
youth phenomenal like Skyler Maine all then got me right.
But like I said, I think I I think I
performed well. Obviously with with the coaches, the dad, and
growing up in that environment, it's hard to feel satisfied
about everything, But you know, I think I did well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, congratulates a lot of work, a lot of heart,
the blood, sweat and tears, a lot of coaching by dad,
a lot of coaching by coaches throughout all this time,
and the culmination to a degree of your collegiate career.
Now moving on to the NFL, tell us a little
bit about the offseason. Then once you got done with
the season, what a tremendous season. It was a twelve
and two year? Was it everything?
Speaker 5: Real quick?
Speaker 3: Was it everything you hoped for when you arrived at BYU?
When you came out of the portal and ended up
at by You came from Baylor, you had success there,
you had a great experience. But was BYU everything that
you would hoped it would be in that one year?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 5: It was awesome, truly a blessing, kind of a homecoming.
You know, like you said, went to high school here.
Seven or eight of my high school teammates were on
the team. I knew coach Kilani and a lot of
the other coaches from what my dad was here, so
super easy transition. And then obviously having a very successful
football year two makes it all with it too. And
it's just such a fun thing to be a part of.
You could be down you know how many points at
halftime and not doubt that you're gonna win. Those are
the fun season. So yeah, it was truly a blessing,
great staff, awesome environment.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was. It was great.
Speaker 3: Well, we're grateful that you're a part of a monumental season.
Tell us what happened at the end of the season,
what did you where did you go, Where did you
start training, What were the goals, how did you need
to improve, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously for a specialists it's it's very different than
a you know, say a skill position that can go
to one place and kind of get all the training
they need there for me, and you know, a specialist position,
there's so many different coaches that have little things that
you can take back with you. So I would travel
a lot. I went to Arizona for a showcase type
thing and then that was with coach Donner, and then
I flew to Orlando and had a showcase there, and
then I went to Frisco for the East West game
and that was cool expiance. I was there nine days.
Speaker 6: And then.
Speaker 5: I also had a coach that lived in Frisco that
I went and saw a few times. And then obviously
trained for combine up after that, and then came back
and got ready for proback.
Speaker 3: So pretty quick, I mean, it goes by fast. But
did you feel like you made a lot of progress
in that time? Did you learn a little bit more
about yourself? Did you refine your skill set?
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you know, coming for a long snapper,
I don't think that any you know, rookie will be
fully prepared for what the next level brings just so
different schematically wise. But I think I learned a lot,
and I've prepared as much as I can up to
this point for what's to come. But yeah, I definitely
learned a lot. It's more more than what I thought
it was, for sure. But it's it's been a good process.
I've really enjoyed it, and uh, yeah, it's been good.
Speaker 3: Who did you end up going with your agent and why?
And are there like specialist agents out there that are
are like really good at at placing getting guys drafted,
finding undrafted free agent best spots out there in the
agency world for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the agent I went with, his name is Brits Henderson.
Him and his dad have a family business it's called ISA,
But him and Don Henderson, they used to represent kind
of the the big names like Patrick Manneley and some
of these other big snaw names. But one of the
biggest things that stuck out to me with him is
there's a lot of agents that will try to make
you kind of verbally commit during season and stuff, and
you're not technically allowed to do that, but everybody kind
of does it. And you know, Brooks was like, that's
not how we roll, Like, I'm not gonna, you know,
twist the rules at all. We're going to keep it professional.
And he was just very honest through the whole process,
which is what kind of drew him to me. And
then I mean, yeah, the thing with snappers and getting drafted,
you know, there might be one every five to ten
years that gets drafted, but it's very rare. Obviously, you
know that's the goal, but I also have realistic expectations
and just want to find the best situation for me
and where I'll be able to succeed at I mean.
Speaker 3: What's the landscape light right now? For long I mean,
you got one long snapper on every single team in
the NFL. Is anyone getting old? Is anyone injured right now?
I mean we're going to be able to compete right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's a relatively good year for snappers. The
thing is is, you know, you can be a snapper
and you can kind of get onto a team and
rot there. Like we had one of the guys that
I look up to, he played at Baylor actually, and
his name is John Weeks. He played for the Texan
for the last fifteen seasons and he was on the
forty nine ers this last year and just signed another
year extension. So you know, you can be in the
league for however long your body allows it, if you're
able to do the job at a high level. But
that definitely makes it more difficult to get in. Right,
there's only thirty two in the world, and there's not
any snappers that are on the practice squad, so truly
only is one guy per team. So you know, wherever
I go, obviously I'm going to be competing, whether it's
a team bringing in two young guys and I'm competing
against another rookie, or if it's a team that just
signed a you know, a vet, but they're looking to
maybe go younger if the rookie is able to perform
at a high level. So you know, wherever I go,
I'm just getting into my right or the right mindset
to compete. But I'd say it's really there's you know,
probably five teams or six teams that will bring on
a new snapper. But I'd say by the end of
cuts and end of preseason, there'd only be one or
two teams that you know, kept that rookie as their guy.
So yeah, it's tough tough thing to get into. But
you know, like I said, I feel like God's blestening
with the talents to be able to do at the
next level. So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: It's funny you bring up Josh John Weeks. Uh you
said John Weeks, right, Yeah, yeah, he So I went
to high school with John. I graduated oh one, yeah,
Mountain Ridge, and I think he was because he was
a four year later. He trying to think, Well, Richie
Incognito was my long snapper I think my junior year,
and then I think Weeks was my long snapper my
senior year when he came in as a true freshman,
because Richie and John were both coached up by Ben Bernard.
He's like a long snapping guru. He was our strengthen
editioning coach and long snapper. I don't know if you've
heard that name, Ben Bernard, but he was the coach
for he was like specialty and in long snapping. So
I had forgotten that John had actually attended Baylor as
a walk on and then balled out obviously been to
the league forever.
Speaker 5: I mean it's insane. Seventeenth year, so it is a certa.
Speaker 3: I think a former BYU, a former B what you
long snapper and defensive end John Denny with with with
the Miami Dolphins for like eighteen years, Like it's crazy,
Like how do you unseat these guys?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. You you gotta be able to do everything
they want you to do. And if you can do
that as a rookie then and they'll take you. But yeah,
it's a crazy process.
Speaker 3: Well, with that being said, it's like are you going
to continue? Like, hey, are you going to continue to
long snap? Two three years? To say, say, like NFL
doesn't work out this year? Do you keep long snapping
while you're kind of making money doing other things?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: And because I remember Matt Hayward, he was another one
of our long snappers. It was maybe it was him
and Richie Mett. Hayward ended up at Glendear Community College
after he graduated from Mount Ridge and then after one
year went to USC and won like two national championships
with USC as a long snapper, and then he was
I remember working out with him when he'd come home
in uh in Glendale and he was still trying out
for an additional two years before He's like, all right, now,
I'm just gonna move on. So what's the game plan there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I've thought about that. A guy that I
was able to connect with this this postseason. His name
is Zach Triner. He actually did not He played lacrosse
in college and kind of knew how to snap, and
then after college he spent four years training but didn't
get on a team, and then he just finished his
seventy year snapping in the NFL and he just signed
with the Dolphins just a couple of days ago. So
that's kind of the thing that I'm you know, I'm
trying to decide. I think that it'll come down to,
you know, the time being and what I what I
feel like there. But like I said, you know, I
know that I'd be able to do it. So I
think at least, you know, one or two years if
it doesn't work. But in the moment, you know, I'll
just be praying for God's direction and see what I
feel like his plan is. But yeah, i'd say a
couple of years for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, in those couple of years, Like,
would you, like, what is the mindset of maybe the
alternate leagues out there, like the UFL or the Canadian League, Like,
are those viable options for you to be putting out
film and showcasing talent? Does the NFL? Do you know
if the NFL notices those if they if that's a
viable way.
Speaker 6: To do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely possible. I haven't heard of
a lot of those situations, you know, the guy going
to the UFL or XFL then he gets called up.
I know it does happen, and I'm not super in
the know with all of that, but I think it
would just come down to my situation, what I'm doing
for a job at the time, and because the thing
with you know, NFL is you've got to stay ready
to Like if say I get a couple of workouts
and teams like me, but they want to keep their
vet that they have. You know, he may get hurt
week four and then they called me and I got
to be ready to go in that week. So that's
kind of the mindset I would have during that time.
But again, you know, playing football is playing football. You know,
I love the game So if that opportunity arose and
I feel like that's what I was supposed to do,
then I do it.
Speaker 3: Garrison Grimes BYU, former Blau long snapper talking some Cougar
football NFL Cougar's in the pro segment brought to you
by Dental Pros of Utah Dentalprosoutah dot com. You went
to the East West Shrine, Boll, you went to the Combine,
and you've done your pro day. You know, how cool
of an experience has it been. How enriching of an
experience has it been to be at the the you know,
the Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Day. I mean, these are
all fun spectacles, like competitive environments. There's a lot of
enrichment and a lot of just Corterisoll levels as well. Man,
it's stressful, it is.
Speaker 5: And you know, to be honest, I haven't really dealt
with stress kind of like I have this off season.
You know, I feel like it's easier to snap in
front of you know, sixty thousand fans one hundred thousand
fans than it is, you know, with thirty two NFL
teams watching every snap taking notes on them. So it
was definitely stressful, but also like good stress, you know,
like to be able to say I'm stressed because NFL
teams are watching me. Like that's such a blessing at
the end of the day. And that's something that my
mom and dad have been able to keep me grounded during.
It's just how much of a blessing it is and
being grateful for every opportunity, and you know, my dad
being a coach. I love competing, So whether it's at
these showcases or the Combine or pro Da, whatever, it is, like,
I'm gonna go out there and compete and have fun.
And that's that's kind of what it's come down to
at the end of the day for most of these experiences.
But now it's been really fun just seeing like the
best of the best, like the East West game, seeing
a couple of my old teammates that were there, and
seeing guys against you know, other teams that I've played against,
all their best players out there and then watching them.
Speaker 6: Play a game like it's so cool.
Speaker 5: And then same at the Combine too, So definitely blessing
to be a part of all of them. Kind of
surreal to like my younger self wouldn't I don't know
how surprised he would be. That sounds super bustful. I
don't mean to sound ustful, but obviously that's been my
goal as a kid growing up.
Speaker 6: But it is.
Speaker 5: It is very surreal.
Speaker 6: It's cool.
Speaker 3: Many blessings to you and your fam. Yeah, what what feedback?
What comments? What coaching? His uh his grimy Papa grimey
giving you through this process.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, obviously technique wise, he was, in my opinion,
you know, the best the line coach there was there
is and now he's offensive coordinator. But he is able
to give me some blocking advice because that's the biggest
thing going to the next level was are you able
to snap the ball and then get your head up
click and block a you know, starting NFL linebacker that's
going to be coming through the a gaps, twisting, whatever
it may be. So having him there is just like
a safety net of like, hey, if there's something that
I don't understand, I have a resource.
Speaker 6: Available, right.
Speaker 5: But I'd say outside of that, the biggest thing is
just mentally and spiritually him being that leader for me
because he's had you know, he's at Wisconsin this last year,
in Kansas the year before, and he's had some a
couple of tough seasons back to back, but you know,
his attitude hasn't really changed. She's still grateful for all
the situations he's in, and that's just because of his faith.
And that's something that's been able to keep me grounded
during this time of like, hey, you know, if it
doesn't work out, that's okay, That's what God's plan is,
which kind of takes some of the pressure off and
then at.
Speaker 6: That point you're able.
Speaker 5: To perform better. So it's been great having him in
my corner this whole time. And you know, like I said,
it's truly a lessens What.
Speaker 3: Was your favorite experience while you're at b YU right
this year, Like when you ponder on the enriching experiences
he had in Provo and playing for BYU, would you
gonna recall when you you know, take a take a
glance back and and revere those times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think most by U fans would agree with this.
But my dad was here and I think two thousand
and five, and I was just a young kid at
that time, and we always called, you know, Utah the
stinky Utes when I was.
Speaker 6: A kid, So from a young age, from a.
Speaker 5: Young age, I didn't really like him, and then coming
back and you know, having that huge rivalry game at
home in Probo that you know, I was a part
of being able to win that game like that was
that was really special. And by our unit and our team,
we're so close and you know, the brotherhood that we have.
Everybody talks about it, but it is truly different here
at by U and it was so fun to be
a part of.
Speaker 6: And I think that game, you know, it's hard. It's
hard to beat that game.
Speaker 5: Like there's other games that are fun, you know, the
close ones at the end. The Pop Tart Bowl was
so fun, but Utah game is probably my favorite.
Speaker 3: Such a great game, fantastic memories, fantastic time. What is
it like when you're if you're going to pitch these
recruits during this process? Obviously you got pitched, You got
recruited to a number of schools. You ended up a Baylor.
What a great school that was education wise, spiritually, et cetera,
and in football wise. You know, what's the pitch to
come to BYU? Would you say, what's like the marketing
pitch to these recruits that are valuating b YU over
other power for institutions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you know, a lot of young
guys coming out of high school motivat are motivated by
the money aspect of it, especially now you know Nio
is kind of out of control and it's just everybody's
trying to get their bag, everybody's trying to get paid.
But you know, the money can only motivate you so much.
As soon as you get into off season and you
get in the fourth quarter drills and everything, you know
you're going through the heat of it.
Speaker 6: That money kind of stakes your mind, right, Like you have.
Speaker 5: To really you have to really love the game, love
where you're at, and love the coaches that are coaching you.
And I think that's a big thing. Like there's nowhere
that's more beautiful than here in Provo. I mean, the
stadium's right against the mountains, there's a ton of stuff
to do here, it's very you know, family friendly, it's safe.
And then the staff who is phenomenal, Like you're not
gonna find a head coach that's more brought into football
in the relationships than Toronie Stockey, Like he's truly one
of a kind and his fit here is so perfect
at BYU, And I think that's why it's so successful
is because the players love him and he loves the players.
That's that's kind of what it comes down to at.
Speaker 6: The end of the day.
Speaker 5: And obviously the football part of it, right Like you
can have all that other stuff, but you know, the
science behind why we do what we do in the
lifting world, and obviously the positional coaches, all of that
feeds into having a successful football program. And I think
the you know by us on their way to creating
a dynasty right now. And I think that you know
stems from town Stockey. So I think that that's that
would be my pitch, Tom.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great pitch. I think it's on point,
and it comes from a very valid, incredible source, very
articulate one at Dad Garrison Grimes. Great catching up with you, man,
I'll be watching you. Congratulations on all of your success
up to this point. I think there's a place for
you in the NFL. And I think that that top
end speed. I mean, you're already a great long snapper.
Obviously you're gonna have to get off blocks, et cetera,
and weave your way downfield. I think that top and
speed is gonna help and probably improve your draft stock.
You're undrafted free agent stock uh in this process. So
congratulations all your success man, uh and uh you know,
grateful that you got to rep the y your senior year.
We wish you could have had you could have been
here for four or five years.
Speaker 6: Okay though, all right, you.
Speaker 3: Know we lost out on you for a few years.
But he was great having me here in provo.
Speaker 6: Brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah Sair, thank you catching up Garrison.
Speaker 3: Sale over to your pods for me. Always love and
appreciate him. All right, man, have a great rest of
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