WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:12.840 kill your dog? 26 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:14.040 My dog. 27 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:16.159 We're flying through there, over the tree. I don't know 28 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:21.120 how it did it? Okay, damn it. I'm really confused. 29 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.159 All I saw was my dog coming over the fence, 30 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.159 and name was dead once you hit the grill. I 31 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.079 didn't see any cars. All I saw was my dog 32 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:28.000 coming over the fence. 33 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:44.680 Happen? 34 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:48.000 What are you reporting? We got some wonder or something 35 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:58.640 crawling around out here? Did you see what it was? 36 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.239 It was enough out here looking them new to window 37 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:02.840 now and I don't see anything. I don't want to 38 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:11.479 go outside. It's quinet kara. Hello, hit somebody out here? 39 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:13.520 What went on out there? I thought of a bit 40 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.199 just about sixty nine. I don't know easy, I'm out there. Yeah, 41 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:18.199 I'm walking right away. 42 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.840 Oh greetings, This bread in Alaska. Thanks for joining me today. 43 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:25.879 What I have to share with you comes from the 44 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.199 Copper River Valley. This person wishes for their community to 45 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.520 be left out. I'll just leave it at the Copper 46 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:36.560 River Valley. It's a small community. And they don't want strangers, 47 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:41.400 whether they're from Alaska or not, bombarding their area looking around. 48 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:44.639 I'll respect that because it can happen. They wanted to 49 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.280 remain anonymous, so we'll call them Patrick and Tina. Patrick 50 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.759 and Tina were on a walk near their home. They 51 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.919 were about four miles into this walk. As they're getting 52 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.560 to the point of turning around, which wasn't far from 53 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:02.360 the Copper River itself, they stopped and were having a 54 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.680 backpack lunch that they had brought with them. They were 55 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.560 both armed. They're both very bear wise wise. They believe 56 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:13.680 in protecting themselves, so they were armed. They didn't specify 57 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.680 what they just mentioned. They were armed. Tina also had 58 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:21.639 bear spray. Now, they found a little open area to 59 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:26.000 enjoy their backpack lunch. As they were sitting there eating, 60 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.599 about halfway through, Tina needed to relieve herself, so she 61 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:33.520 went just a short distance easily within eyeshot of Patrick 62 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.520 was handling her business. As she was finishing up, she 63 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:42.680 said she heard whispers behind her really creeped her out. 64 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.159 She jumped ran back towards where Patrick was sitting. Patrick 65 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.039 jumps up, of course, and was like, what the hell, 66 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:52.120 and she commences telling them, hey, I heard whispers over 67 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:56.680 there in the woods. Patrick was very upset because, of 68 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.840 course that's his wife. How dare someone be nearby and 69 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:04.080 not announce themselves and start whispering about his wife doing 70 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.319 her thing. So he starts looking around, and he's probing 71 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:10.719 the area and there is literally nothing around, no sign 72 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:15.680 of anybody. He backs back over to where Tina is. 73 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.519 They have a short conversation about it. He said, I 74 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.120 don't see anything, and there's no sign of anybody. There's 75 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.240 not even trails over there for someone to be. So 76 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:26.879 they got a little spooked, and they weren't thinking Harry 77 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.800 Man or anything like that at the time. They were 78 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:33.439 thinking maybe they were followed by some weirdo or something. 79 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:37.920 Strange things happen in the woods, So they're basically reasoning 80 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.879 away what it could be, trying to find whatever reason 81 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.160 may have been for the whispering. Patrick to this point 82 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:47.360 had not heard the whispering, so they decide to put 83 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.839 their backpack lunch away and start heading back home. Along 84 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.399 their way home, they have about two and a half 85 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:58.199 miles before they get to their nearest neighbor, so they 86 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.040 start hiking back home with their backpacks on. Patrick Katina 87 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.480 walked in front of him. They got less than one 88 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.319 hundred yards from where they were eating their lunch. Patrick 89 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.360 started hearing the whispering and started hearing branches break off 90 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.800 to his left hand side. Tina heard it at the 91 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.079 same time, and they both stopped and turned in the 92 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.120 direction of the noise and were looking at each other, 93 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.839 being quiet, trying to listen to what was being said. 94 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.120 The whispering they couldn't make out. They could tell it 95 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:27.160 was close, but they couldn't make out what the whispering was. 96 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:31.199 It was jarbled. It was like gibberish. They couldn't make 97 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:35.040 it out. Nothing was enunciated. They really couldn't make it 98 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:38.600 out other than gibberish in a whisper. So they stopped. 99 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.199 They're watching that area for a minute, and they continue 100 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.639 to hear movement just out of eyesight, and it gets 101 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.120 a little louder, this gibberish sound, so they're like, what 102 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:51.360 the hell. They get a little worried because there was 103 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.680 an ominous feeling in the air once it got a 104 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:56.519 little louder. At first, it was just curiosity on Patrick 105 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.399 Contina's part, but then once the whispering and the movement 106 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:05.000 got louder, it took on an ominous tone, which freaked 107 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.240 him out. Patrick said he clearly remembers the hair on 108 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.519 his arm standing up. He was pointing in the direction 109 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.680 he was hearing the sound, making sure Tina's eyes were 110 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.480 on that direction, and he visibly saw the hair on 111 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:20.240 his arm stand up when it got louder. From what 112 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.399 Patrick was saying, Tina immediately was motioning him like let's go. 113 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.040 According to what she said, she got a very sickening 114 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:32.079 feeling in her gut. They start walking, and Patrick had 115 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.959 drawn his firearm and had it at his side in 116 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:38.759 his hand as they continued walking. Now Tina did not 117 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:40.800 She had gotten out her bare spray and they were 118 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.560 walking along. They were having a hard time focusing on 119 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.720 the trail because as they were moving along, this whispering 120 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:51.120 in the woods was pacing them at a distance just 121 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.240 where they couldn't see. It was really starting to bother them. 122 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:58.279 So Patrick, after about another twenty yards of this whispering 123 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:04.040 and pacing beside them, yells out says, hey, stop following us. 124 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.759 I have a gun. I will use it. Back off. 125 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:12.079 It gets dead quiet. There's no animal noises around, so 126 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.120 they continue walking. Patrick didn't want to announce he had 127 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.959 a firearm. For whatever reason, he felt he was showing 128 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.519 his cards, so to speak. If it was some weirdo 129 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.639 in the woods, the weirdo would know he's armed. Potentially 130 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.720 it could get uglier. He continues walking. They hear this 131 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.720 pacing and it sounds like it's getting ahead of them 132 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.199 off to their left hand side. Tina is verbalizing it 133 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.519 as they're walking. She goes, I can hear it. It's 134 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:39.279 starting to get into a front of us, just out 135 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.199 of eyesight. Now they have a good mile on this 136 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.120 trail before it starts opening up at all. It's fairly dense. 137 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.920 There's not a lot of large tall trees in this area, 138 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:53.360 but it's a lot of black spruce, some pine, and 139 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.319 of course willow and aldershrubs, various other ferns and what 140 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.759 have you. It's dense, you're not going to much even 141 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:04.240 if it's right up on you. And they're very concerned 142 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.439 because they could hear this movement getting ahead of them, 143 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:13.120 so they're concerned about them potentially being ambushed. So they 144 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.720 paused for just a moment and Tina says we should jog. 145 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.959 Patrick agrees, and they start trotting along. Now they're carrying backpacks. 146 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:23.120 They weren't overly heavy or anything like that, but the 147 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.360 backpacks were making a lot of jingling and jumbling noises 148 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.000 with the zippers and all that stuff. They initially started 149 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.559 jogging along the trail, but they weren't able to hear 150 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.559 the surrounding noise because of all the noise they were making. 151 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:40.120 They stopped. They reassessed and decided to walk at a 152 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:44.320 fast pace without making as much jingling noises with their backpacks. 153 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:46.759 Once they got their game plan, they continued on this 154 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:52.000 whole time. The whispering, the gibberish sounds them being paced 155 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:55.480 has not stopped when they started running. For the brief 156 00:08:55.519 --> 00:09:00.799 moments that they did, this movement was consistent. They couldn't 157 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:04.320 hear running or anything like that, but the sound itself 158 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:08.200 was moving through the trees on pace with them, which 159 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:13.639 really freaked them out. Now, after running, Tina, she said 160 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:17.679 about twenty five yards into that she stopped abruptly because 161 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.440 she saw something very dark. The trail they were on 162 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.919 was twelve o'clock. It would have been at the ten 163 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.720 o'clock position, approximately fifty yards off to their left. She 164 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.320 stops and assess what she could see and what she 165 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.519 could see is this darkness in between these two trees. 166 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:36.279 At first, she almost dismissed it because it looked like 167 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.799 just a tree blowing, but there was no wind, and 168 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.000 that's what caused her to focus on that one movement. 169 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.240 Very dark. It was just at the right distance where 170 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.960 they couldn't really make anything out, but just something big 171 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:51.360 and dark moving between two trees, almost like a tree 172 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.799 blowing back and forth in the wind. Now from Patrick's perspective, 173 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:58.480 he had to come up a couple paces to join 174 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:00.679 Tina on the trail for her to point out, and 175 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.320 then finally he got a fix on it and starts 176 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.679 yelling again, hey, stop following us, leave us alone. Before 177 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.120 this turns ugly. He's just yelling this stuff out. There's 178 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.159 nothing in return more whispers and gibberish. A moment later 179 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.480 after he was done talking, so they carry on. They 180 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.360 continue down this trail. Tina says she started feeling very 181 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.679 ill to her stomachs. She said that she felt like 182 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.000 she was in imminent danger. Patrick, however, he didn't feel 183 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.360 the same. He felt nervous, but he didn't feel like 184 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.919 he was in imminent danger. So after a few paces 185 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.679 of Tina feeling that way, She stops and tells Patrick, hey, 186 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:43.639 I feel we're in serious danger. Patrick didn't dismiss it. 187 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:45.919 It's just he didn't have the same feeling. He was 188 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:51.440 nervous and anxious, but he wasn't in fear of his life, 189 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.679 so he said, just stay calm, we're armed, let's be ready, 190 00:10:55.759 --> 00:11:00.879 Let's keep moving. They continue on. They went up from 191 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.720 that last little conversation. They went approximately fifty more yards, 192 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:08.039 and there was no sound whatsoever. As they were walking. 193 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:10.720 All of a sudden they hear the whispering, and it 194 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.440 sounds like it's just on the other side of the trees, 195 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.799 just out of view, a lot closer than it had 196 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:19.240 been the whole time, which immediately caused them to stop, 197 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:24.080 and Patrick panic fired about three rounds in that direction 198 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:30.080 into the trees. Just bam. They heard scurrying in the brush, 199 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.679 some branches breaking, and the gibberish talk got louder and louder. 200 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:39.000 Going away from them, they heard other movement from nearby, 201 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.759 not in that exact location where they heard loudest whispers, 202 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.960 but from various points just a little ahead of them 203 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.120 and a little off the trail. They heard multiple movement. 204 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.000 They couldn't tell if it was two or three, but 205 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.759 it was at least two, so at that moment they 206 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.960 didn't know what it was. But whatever, the two things 207 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:02.360 were moving away. So with Patrick's ears ringing Tina's as well, 208 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:06.600 these things were making enough noise to be heard moving away. 209 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.039 Now they continue on down the trail, basically running. At 210 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.720 this point they weren't quite sure, but from the adrenaline, 211 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:19.480 dumb and everything going squirrely, it wasn't very far before 212 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.000 they had to catch their breath because they wed already 213 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.120 been holding their breath and freaking out the whole time. 214 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.559 Patrick said, one thing that stood out is once they 215 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.840 took off running full board, he said, about half the 216 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:34.480 distance that they were able to keep up a really 217 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:38.519 fast paced so about half that distance point he started 218 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:41.960 hearing thrashing in the brush off to their left, just 219 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:46.039 behind them. He was guestimating about sixty yards back behind 220 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:49.039 them off the trail. So once they stopped, because they 221 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.600 were out of breath and starting to really hyperventilate and 222 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:55.320 freak out, he said, they stopped, he had Tina squat down, 223 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:58.879 get her firearm out, and he stood guard over her, 224 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:02.720 waiting for whatever to show itself. Because once they stopped, 225 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:06.200 they heard the movement still moving towards them, but just 226 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.639 out of sight. Patrick said that where they happened to 227 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:13.840 have stopped was very tight part of the trail, very 228 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:17.879 dense on both sides. Damn near impossible to make anything 229 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:20.799 out other than the noises. It couldn't see movement. It 230 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.519 was just damn near impossible. So he whispers to Tina, 231 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.039 we got a little ways to go before it starts 232 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:30.679 opening up. Let's get into the open so we're not 233 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.360 so closed in, and she agrees. They took a moment, 234 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.399 she said, let me catch my breath. Meanwhile, that noise 235 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.879 had stopped. The movement anyway of the noise had stopped, 236 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:45.080 but the gibberish whispers continued. He said at that point 237 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.639 he could tell the whisper was coming in two different tones, 238 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.000 so he would hear weird gibberish whisper and then a 239 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.440 response not too far away to the whisper. He said, 240 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.559 it was very creepy. He had a very hard time 241 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:03.080 standing focused. His head was on a swivel. A couple 242 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.559 times he thought he heard movement behind them. They were 243 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.159 feeling inclosed real fast, getting real claustrophobic. On this tight trail. 244 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.799 Finally they take off again. He says he doesn't remember 245 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:15.279 how long it took for them to get to that 246 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.440 where it opens up more on the trail, but they 247 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.039 did not stop. They weren't full blown running. They were 248 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:25.120 trotting along because he was head on a swivel trying 249 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:27.360 to keep track of where the noises were coming from. 250 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.879 It was hard with the backpack noise and all that stuff, 251 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:34.360 but they were motivated to move. Patrick said, as soon 252 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:38.000 as they came into that clearing, Tina was spent, and 253 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:41.559 so was he, damn near. They basically had been hyperventilating, 254 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.000 like panic stricken. He looked at Tina when they got 255 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:46.759 into the clearing, when she turned around where he could 256 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.679 see her face outside of just profile now and then 257 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.519 of her looking off the side of the trails. She 258 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.279 was pale, and he was really concerned for her because 259 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.200 she did not look good. She looked very pale, peaked, 260 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.519 almost grand tone. She was really getting freaked out. 261 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.120 Stay tuned for more sasquat Yetta see. We'll be right 262 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:14.240 back after these messages. 263 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:13.159 And so was he. Just by the nature of what 264 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.879 was happening, They spent their whole lives in the woods. 265 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.159 This is their life. They've always been out in the woods, 266 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:23.080 never had anything like this happen. They're both late forties, 267 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.559 and this is the first time they had ever encountered 268 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.919 anything like this. They'd been together for a long time, 269 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.039 always hunted in the woods, bury picking, the whole nine. 270 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.279 They were not wallflowers. Once they got to this clearing, 271 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.480 Patrick said he had Tina stand behind him with her 272 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:43.559 firearm ount he had his out. He heard the noises. 273 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.799 Now they're facing back on their back trail now, so 274 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:49.559 the noise is coming from off to their right. He 275 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:53.399 said that this clearing they were in was probably a 276 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:57.000 fifty yard radius. It was egg shaped, and they were 277 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.919 more towards the top of the egg if their trail 278 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:01.960 out of there was the top of the eggs. They're 279 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.480 further away from where they had started in this egg 280 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:09.600 shape opening, right about fifty yards in diameter. He said 281 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:11.639 that as they were standing there and he had his 282 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:14.279 pistol raised and he was just looking back and forth 283 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.879 at the trees and stuff, the movement off to the 284 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.720 right had stopped and he didn't hear anything, But all 285 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:23.039 of a sudden he saw something peeking his head above 286 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.039 some brush so he started focusing on it, trying to 287 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.480 figure out what it was because the shape of it 288 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:30.759 was weird. He was trying to make out what it was. 289 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.519 At first, he was like, is that a bear? What 290 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:36.720 is that? He's getting Tina's attention, and she sees what 291 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.039 he's seeing. They're trying to assess what they're looking at 292 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.159 as this dark thing that's all they could make out 293 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.240 at that moment, was up and down behind this bush. 294 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.600 Patrick decides he going to shoot around in the air. 295 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.759 He tells Tina, plug your ear closest to me. It 296 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:54.720 doesn't ring as loud, I'm going to fire in the air. 297 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.720 He just says, don't don't do that. We don't know 298 00:16:57.759 --> 00:16:59.720 what it is. It didn't do anything last time, save 299 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.679 your So he stands down and he's just standing there 300 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:05.960 for a minute, trying to assess what the hell to do. 301 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.519 And as they're talking about backing out of there, they 302 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.599 hear more movement. They can't place where they're hearing it from, 303 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.519 but it sounds real close, and they were distracted for 304 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:19.240 the briefest moment off to their left. In that brief 305 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:22.240 moment where the thing had been bobbing up and down 306 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.599 to their right, it stood up. Patrick said that out 307 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.480 of his peripheral he saw the thing stand up, and 308 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.400 it stood up not too far from at least a 309 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.160 twelve foot black spruce. He said, this thing was damn 310 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.000 near as tall as that and very wide. I asked 311 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:44.920 him if he saw any kind of facial features, eyes, whatever, 312 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.359 and he said it was just dark. They saw that, 313 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:51.559 and immediately it got their attention. They were both looking 314 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.519 in that direction, and as they started to try to 315 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:56.400 figure out what the hell they were looking at, this 316 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:58.839 thing dropped back down below the brush, and they heard 317 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:03.400 it moving from the right towards their left, but keeping 318 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.759 its distance inside the trees. They start backing away, going 319 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.799 back down the trail. Now there's approximately thirty yards distance 320 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.559 between where they saw this thing and where they were at. 321 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:16.759 So they got to the top of this egg shaped 322 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:20.240 clearing where the trail continued, and they knew it wasn't 323 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.680 too much further before it really opened up wide and 324 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:26.440 would have plenty of field of view, So they decide 325 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.599 they're going to bolt for it. They turn around and 326 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.960 haul ass. They get to the bigger opening. From what 327 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.039 Patrick said, as they were running that direction, they were 328 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.599 motivated because they could feel in the ground by pedal 329 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.599 footsteps behind them. He didn't know how close. He could 330 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.559 feel it in the ground, and it was motivation. They 331 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.680 could hear it, they could feel it, and they were 332 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:53.079 just hauling ass now. When they get into the bigger, 333 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.920 wider clearing, Patrick immediately turns around because he's already almost 334 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.559 winded again, points the gun and there's nothing behind them. 335 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.079 They had been hearing this noise consistently since they took 336 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.480 off running, and when he turned around there was nothing there. 337 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:12.000 So he's panting. He's panic stricken. Tina's at his shoulder, 338 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:16.799 she's got her firearm raised. There's nothing to be seen now. 339 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:20.240 Just inside the trees. They start hearing movement off to 340 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:23.680 the right. As they're paying attention to that, all of 341 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.279 a sudden, couple of pine cones get thrown at them. 342 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.000 Not directly at them, but they landed right in their 343 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.160 field of view. Little pine cones being thrown from how 344 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.039 far they weren't sure because it had to have been 345 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.200 a high arc to wait for them to be falling. 346 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:42.240 So they're steadily backing away. Patrick said, when they got 347 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.880 about sixty seventy yards from that tree line that they 348 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.400 had just came out of into the bigger, wider opening. 349 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.000 That's when this thing showed itself again. And when it 350 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.839 showed itself, it went from their right to the left 351 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.960 to the trail, just looking back their direction. He said, 352 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:02.680 that's when he was able to tell it had an 353 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.559 ashen gray look pitch black hair. Couldn't make out the 354 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:08.880 eyes or whether it have whites in its eyes or 355 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:11.680 anything like that. Couldn't really make out too much facial 356 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.359 feature other than the complexion of the skin was different 357 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.640 from the blackness of the hair. He said. He could 358 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:23.000 see the same colored ashen gray throughout the body. The 359 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:26.000 way the hair was it wasn't like mange, but just 360 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:28.279 like a human's hair when it parts or whatever, you 361 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:31.640 can see the skin underneath. It was in that context, 362 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.799 he said, they continue to walk backwards. This thing walked 363 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:37.960 over to damn near the trail, but then cut back 364 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:42.640 off into the trees. Now as they were backing away, 365 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:45.920 the pine cones eventually stopped at some point. He doesn't 366 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.359 remember when because they were trying to focus on this creature. 367 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.960 He said. They got a little further away, then turned 368 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.400 around and started walking because they felt there was enough 369 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:58.480 distance they would hear or see this thing coming, which 370 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:01.759 they were regularly looking over their shoulders, but they wanted 371 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:06.480 to create distance. They end up getting up back by 372 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.319 where one of their neighbors were, and when they got 373 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.799 to that driveway, they noticed their neighbor's truck wasn't home, 374 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:15.960 and they knew that person lived alone and wouldn't be home, 375 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.160 so they continued on walking. They ended up making it 376 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.400 all the way home. No further instance at that point. However, 377 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.400 that night, Tina said that just as they were getting 378 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:28.319 ready to go to bed, still reliving the moments that 379 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.119 had happened earlier that day, off in the distance, they 380 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:36.839 heard a air raid siren type scream that ended in 381 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:41.119 a very high pitched, almost whistle like sound. That was 382 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.680 the last noise they had heard since then. I want 383 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:49.279 to thank them for sharing. They didn't want it public 384 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:52.519 at first, just because of the size of their community, 385 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:55.119 so I told them I would just leave it general 386 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.839 as far as Copper River Valley and just leave it 387 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:01.279 at that. So finally they agreed. Now they lived here 388 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:05.440 their whole lives mid late forties, never had anything like 389 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:10.240 that happen until this instance. They thought all the bigfoot stuff, 390 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.279 Harry Mann's stuff they had heard over the years through 391 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:16.079 the Copper River Valley was all trash garbage. They didn't 392 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:17.880 believe any of it. I want to thank them for 393 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.279 being willing to let me share publicly what I wanted 394 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:23.599 to share with you today. Benson and Terry started there 395 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.880 what was supposed to be an adventure about twenty years ago. Now. 396 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:31.039 They were basically going to do some fly fishing for trout. 397 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.640 They wanted some brookies and some other stuff. They made 398 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.200 their plans to get an Alaskan adventure. They both used 399 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:38.359 to live in Anchorage. Now I believe one is in 400 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.440 New Mexico and the other ones in Arizona. They didn't 401 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.279