1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Off the Bench. We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. 2 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,199 Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied. Off the Bench, 4 00:00:09,359 --> 00:00:12,160 Our two of Off the Bench Live from the Raisin 5 00:00:12,279 --> 00:00:40,439 Caines Studio. 6 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two of o TV. 7 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,359 Here live from the Raising Kines Studio. And our guy, 8 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,320 doctor Stephen Athriche here with us as he joined us 9 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:57,840 every single Wednesday. I feel like I've been out every 10 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,079 Wednesday for a very long time. So Doc, good to 11 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:00,359 see you. 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: It's been a minute. 13 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, get everybody here today. Super Bowl vacation combine. 14 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, the wolf that hadn't been in the room 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,120 in a long time together, but we're here today. 16 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:13,239 Speaker 5: Would you like to hear Matt Flinn Howe love to love? 17 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said this guy can Actually, this guy can 18 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:27,319 throw touchdowns at l s U and the SEC can 19 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,599 throw touchdowns in the National Football League. He can run 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,480 a very successful hydration company. He is pissed poor at Howling. 21 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:37,439 Speaker 6: Well, like I's practice, I don't do it a lot, 22 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:39,920 you know, And I got a little confused earlier. It 23 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,680 was early, hadn't had a lot of coffee. So we'll 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,159 get we'll. 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,719 Speaker 5: Be better when you get to the tape by howling. 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: Well I was. 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,799 Speaker 6: I was about like, I was like, what comes first? 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,920 Where the inflection point needs to be? And then I 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,599 just went, oh last time, oh yeah, like who got 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,239 not good? 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't good, Doc Hey handing the year. 32 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:02,359 Speaker 6: The credit to myself for taking the credit, taking the 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,879 blame and having full self awareness about my howling skills. 34 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 7: They're kind of hard to like not take the blame 35 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:11,240 for it because they're just so bad. 36 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:13,159 Speaker 2: A lot of people, you know, dig their feet in 37 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:13,520 they're like. 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 8: No, that was good, that was it, but everybody is 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,159 telling you they're a bad You can't dig your feet. 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: In on that, allow myself to myself. 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,039 Speaker 3: But you just did basically Okay, yes, that's good, that's good. 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,919 I heard you in doc talking about youth baseball. Yeah, 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,520 as we were coming. Yeah, probably a pretty I would 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,960 assume this time of year, every year, a little hot 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 topic for you. I'm sure you get some of your 46 00:02:35,039 --> 00:02:38,439 friends to say, hey, little Johnny's throwing this amount of pitches, 47 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:42,280 Little Johnny's arms a little sore right now. It's so 48 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,039 different than when any of us grew up. Sure, when 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,159 we grew up there wasn't as many games, Like you 50 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:49,240 played like on a Wednesday night and league play and 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,800 you catch the next Wednesday, and you know, little Johnny 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,280 would pitch and then little Richie would pitch. Well, now 53 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:56,919 it's like you got these tournaments and their Friday, Saturday, 54 00:02:57,039 --> 00:03:00,479 Sunday and you could play gosh eight games, right, and 55 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:03,599 there's pitch Counter's pitch limits. But even that, it's like, okay, 56 00:03:03,719 --> 00:03:06,159 well some coaches are going to push those limits. How 57 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:08,560 many questions this time of year do you get about 58 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:10,840 arm soreness from just the youth level. 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a lot, and it's a 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,240 real thing, and it's it's something we need to be 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,919 mindful of. You know, I think, I think to your point, 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,120 it's so different than it was, you know, really not 63 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:21,000 even that long ago. 64 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: But it's changed a lot. 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,039 Speaker 8: You know, like you said, we'd play a few games, 66 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:25,759 maybe you'd have that one tournament at the end of 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,240 the year, or some of these kids would go play 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,719 in their All Star league, which would be in the summer. 69 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:32,159 But but you know, now you have fall ball, you 70 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:34,680 have summer ball, you have club ball, you have metro ball, 71 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:36,719 you have all these different leagues. Kids are playing in 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,199 a league team and a tournament team. They're traveling in 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,560 the tournaments, like you said, they might be playing eight games. 74 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:43,439 If you know, if you make that winner's bracket, you 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,159 keep going, how many. 76 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:45,879 Speaker 4: Kids you got on the team. 77 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 8: You know, most of these most these rosters aren't aren't 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,400 big enough. So everybody's got a pitch. And yeah, and 79 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:51,759 it does become a problem. 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:51,919 Speaker 3: You know. 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 8: It's it's this time of year, especially once you really 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,199 get into late March April. I mean, if you come 83 00:03:56,199 --> 00:03:58,719 by and hang out my clinic almost every afternoon, I'm 84 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:00,479 gonna have a kid or two. This guy an elbow 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,879 or a shoulder, it is hurting from baseball. And then 86 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:06,199 that's just going to read the reality. And and and 87 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:08,120 even when coaches try and do right, we were talking 88 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,159 about it, you know, there are pitch limits, and like 89 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:11,879 you said, some coaches will push it. And but but 90 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:13,719 then sometimes, like I said, you have this kid playing 91 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:15,319 on two or three teams, and I'm, uh, you know, 92 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:17,120 if I'm doing the right thing, and you're doing the 93 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,319 right thing, but I don't know what he did with you. 94 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:20,839 And right then, on top of that, you're going to 95 00:04:20,879 --> 00:04:23,560 your pitching lessons and and and you're doing all this 96 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:25,920 other stuff. Everybody's got their private lessons. It's it's really 97 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,240 become a thing. And and and you know, the the unfortunate 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,319 thing is driven by money. Let's just be honest. You Yeah, 99 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:33,079 these these these coaches, these these leagues, everybody's making money. 100 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 6: Uh. 101 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,439 Speaker 8: And so it's probably not the best interest of these 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,920 kids to play baseball year round and to throw that much. 103 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: You know. 104 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,959 Speaker 8: And when we were growing up, you had one season 105 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:43,279 and then most of us played something else. You know, 106 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:45,720 there's these kids that you didn't specialize when you were twelve. 107 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,639 You know, you played you played football in the in 108 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:50,360 the fall, you played soccer, you played basketball, you ran track, 109 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:51,879 you did baseball. 110 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,199 Speaker 4: And it was it was. 111 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 8: And there's something for that too, the training, the different 112 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,120 muscle groups. You know, we we we all feel that 113 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,040 multi sport athletes, it's better for your body and and 114 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,720 you're probably a better athlete in the long run. 115 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: But there's so much pressure to be that guy. 116 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:03,879 Speaker 7: Now. 117 00:05:03,879 --> 00:05:06,079 Speaker 4: It's it's it's a it's a it's an epidemic. 118 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,079 Speaker 6: Specializing for youth sports is like the worst thing, like 119 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,040 in my mind that can happen, Like play a lot 120 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:13,720 of sports. It's how you said, like even from like 121 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:15,800 a medical statement, like training, you train different muscle grips, 122 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,560 but like to be a better athlete, play different sports. 123 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 5: Be a kid. 124 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,519 Speaker 4: There's so much pressure. 125 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,399 Speaker 2: There's so much that in there. There's a lot of 126 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,439 and I was saying. 127 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:25,639 Speaker 3: That that was one of the cool parts of the 128 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,240 combine is we had these bios of all these different 129 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:34,160 players and then you'd go into high school like wrestler, track, basketball, soccer, baseball. 130 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:37,160 So the guys that are in Indianapolis trying to go 131 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,079 to the National Football League, every one of them, to 132 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,800 a man, had something right, They had something else in 133 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:45,279 high school that they did. I we didn't come across 134 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,040 one person that didn't play anything but football. 135 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:51,759 Speaker 5: Yep. And they're making it to the next levels the best. 136 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 8: The best thing you can probably find that just about 137 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,720 every sport. I mean, there comes a point you know 138 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:57,839 when you get cut it down for five when you're 139 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,160 when you're twelve, may play four sports. 140 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:00,519 Speaker 4: When you're fourteen, maybe you go to three. 141 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 5: And then I. 142 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 6: Focused on one when I got to because I had to. 143 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,079 I didn't want to, but I had to because I 144 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,839 was at a big school. 145 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 5: You played baseball. 146 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,759 Speaker 6: I thought, oh my god, yeah that was my sport. 147 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,000 I didn't play football until seventh grade, and I got 148 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,160 beat out. I didn't mean, like actually play football till 149 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:14,639 eighth grade. 150 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: So it was. 151 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 6: Like the yeah, the specialized in sports. So my son 152 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,000 was playing basketball two weeks ago. It was at the 153 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,120 y m c A and playing like I think that 154 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:28,519 last game of the season. The sign on the wall 155 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,759 was like the big thing said nobody's given out scholarships today, 156 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:33,160 and I was like, yeah, that's the best. That's that's 157 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:36,040 a great I should be on every youth sport field 158 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:37,240 court whatever. 159 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: Nobody's getting drafted all this game today, No, not one 160 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:42,120 thinking person. 161 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 6: So I got into that conversation because I pitched growing 162 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,759 up and uh felling gas doc obviously, but my dad 163 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:54,000 being said dad would only So my dad pitched growing up. 164 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,199 He played quarterbacks, so he was he was my coach 165 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,079 and everything. So I do a four seamed fastball, two 166 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:02,680 seamed fastball. I had a nasty circle change. But he 167 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,120 would never let me throw a curveball, never let me 168 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,000 practice it, wouldn't even show me the grip for it. 169 00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:09,920 And he said, when you turn sixteen, you can drive 170 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:12,720 a car. I'll teach you the curveball. And he's like, 171 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:16,120 just because you're this is probably an old, really old 172 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:19,959 school mentality, but he's like, just because your your bone structure, 173 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,199 you're looking like nothing is formed the right way and 174 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,279 you could really hurt your elbow throwing a curveball. That's, 175 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:28,000 of course the twisting the torque, and you've got to 176 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 create enough torque that hurts something, of course, and I 177 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,680 could do that, but is that And it's like, and 178 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,319 I'm not asking you, like what pitches they should or 179 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,600 shouldn't throw, but like, do you see elbowed issues on 180 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:46,120 youth pitchers today come through your clinic because of have 181 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,680 you ever been able to point to that is there 182 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,959 any validity to what basically my dad was telling me 183 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,720 when I was growing up. 184 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, So it's a it's an interesting question because it 185 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,720 is one that even in people who do a lot 186 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:57,959 of youth baseball sports medicine, there's a little bit of 187 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,959 a debate there with the whole curveball thing. Now, yeah, 188 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,879 I think the I think the safe rule is one volume. 189 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 So volume is the number one thing, so more so 190 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:09,120 than anything else, how much volume? How much are you 191 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,399 throwing here into pitch counts, making sure these kids get 192 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,759 their rest, making sure you know all those things. You know, 193 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,319 I think you know, one of the numbers i've here 194 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,360 is you shouldn't you shouldn't do any more hours than 195 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:19,560 you are years old in a week of any sport training. 196 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,040 So if you're twelve, you shouldn't do more than twelve 197 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,519 hours on a week, which you know most of our 198 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,519 teams are going way over that. 199 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: Yeah twelve Yeah. 200 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,959 Speaker 4: A week too, mind you. So that's not a day, 201 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,639 it's a week. 202 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 8: But the curve ball thing, you know, there's some of 203 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:35,279 the more recent data that a lot of people are 204 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:38,639 talking about, is maybe not as crucial as long as 205 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,480 you're doing the volume. 206 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: And then the other thing is technique in form. 207 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 8: You know, I think that you can make arguments either 208 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,120 way having really good technique, having really good form, making 209 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,279 sure that you're not, you know, having having poor mechanics, 210 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:52,159 because that that's probably a bigger risk. 211 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,399 Speaker 4: And then and again, you know, getting paid to coach it. 212 00:08:56,919 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: And so. 213 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 8: You know, I think, well, I think if you if 214 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,960 you follow that rule, because of of the more complexity 215 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,519 that comes into throwing a curveball, if you follow the 216 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,279 rule of hey, I'm gonna wait until basing my growth 217 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:10,240 plates are closed to have my kids throw curves. 218 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,919 Speaker 4: You're probably safer, you. 219 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:14,919 Speaker 8: Know, because unless unless you're really really good with that 220 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,120 mechanics and technique, which is your point, everybody's gonna feel 221 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,039 like they probably are. You know, I coached my son's 222 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:20,519 base I'll be the first day, I was a horrible 223 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:23,320 baseball coach, you know, you know, I. 224 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:24,919 Speaker 4: Was like I was a raw, raw guy on the dugout. 225 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,919 That was all I was good at. 226 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 8: But but you know, I didn't play baseball for very long, 227 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:30,679 so I made sure I didn't try to mess with 228 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,600 these kids. And you know, but because that's the reality, 229 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,679 it's it's but if if you really want to follow 230 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,200 the rules, volume is the big thing. How much pitching 231 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,720 they're doing, how much throwing they're doing, how much total 232 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:43,679 baseball they're getting in a week, that's probably where you 233 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,600 can get into the most trouble. But it's hard, you know, 234 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,519 because like we said, you know how many kids are 235 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:49,120 playing on multiple teams and how many of them, and 236 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:50,879 look the kids are gonna do with the coaches tell them. 237 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:53,240 Then everybody wants to win, and I get it. I've 238 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:55,159 had those competitive juices we all have and you got 239 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:56,440 to know and to rein it in and it's it's 240 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:57,559 easier said than done. 241 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: I respect that. 242 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: So you work with a lot of young athletes, It's 243 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,279 is baseball by far the most that you feel like 244 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,679 probably come in just because like everything you just laid 245 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,080 out that, I mean, there's so many different games, there's 246 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,240 so many different coaches, there's so many different things that 247 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:13,519 unfortunately can go wrong. That probably like the highest volume 248 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:14,679 unfortunately right now, and you. 249 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 8: Sports, if we're talking like the overuse injuries, yeah, right now, 250 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,919 I will say a lot of other sports are making 251 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:21,200 a hard argument to catch up. 252 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:24,879 Speaker 4: You know, volleyball has become year round, soccer coming year round. 253 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,279 Speaker 5: I've had a lot of soft. 254 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,799 Speaker 8: Tissue in soccer out of that, a lot of you 255 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,799 get a lot of volleyball, you know, it's a lot 256 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,399 of they are overhead, so a lot of shoulders, so 257 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:36,080 you know, it's a lot of the overhead stuff, you know. 258 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,759 And then you know, look a lot of the cheer dance, gymnastics, 259 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:41,879 all those are a year round and and you know 260 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,519 I've had you know, stress fractures and all kinds of 261 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:48,039 stuff and young young dancers and young cheerleaders and gymnastics 262 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,960 is brutal. Yeah, I tell everybody on on campus that 263 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,559 those are the toughest athletes we have out there. I 264 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,759 be the best athletes because that stuff they do and 265 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:57,639 what they have to fight through this time of year, 266 00:10:57,879 --> 00:11:00,159 they're all banged up and and they've been doing for 267 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,720 so long. So it's it's like I said, it's baseball 268 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:04,600 is the one because of volume, because how many kids 269 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:05,639 are playing baball too. 270 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: It's a lot of kids, you know. 271 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 8: It's just like, look at my clinic, I'll probably see 272 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,440 more soccer related concussions than football because of howny kids 273 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,320 are playing soccer. So you have to take all that 274 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,679 into consideration with volume. But yeah, baseball, baseball is still 275 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,120 the king on that one. But like I said, there's 276 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,480 some people making a push. 277 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,399 Speaker 6: I feel like there's got to be like there's probably 278 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,559 some baseball lifers out there that are disc that are 279 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,200 going to disagree and have all these stats back in that. 280 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,120 But like if you could just take a view at 281 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:35,399 let's say college baseball, there's so many pictures with elbow issues, right. 282 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,879 Lsho's had so many in the last five six years. 283 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,440 The elbow issues they keep them out for season, half season, 284 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,519 whatever it did. I feel like we were talking about 285 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:47,519 this before you came on, like back the back in 286 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,320 the day, like people would go out there and throw 287 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 double headers, so they would flow complete games all the time, right, Like, yeah, 288 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,559 and you'd never heard about this. So of course there's 289 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:56,320 media now you can hear about more things. But like 290 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,279 there's got to be some sort of correlation with the 291 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,799 youth sports today playing your round, just like you said 292 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:03,600 that repetition that wear and tear, like these ligaments are 293 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:06,759 rubber bands and an old rubber band. 294 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:10,639 Speaker 8: Back in the day, these guys were throwing double headers, 295 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:11,480 but they probably weren't. 296 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: But they did it four months a year, and. 297 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: They probably weren't doing it when they were twelve. They 298 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:15,840 weren't doing it. 299 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:18,879 Speaker 8: You know, they weren't throwing four double heads in there twelve, 300 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:19,559 you know, they weren't. 301 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: They were playing one game a week like we said earlier. 302 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 8: So so I mean, I do wonder about how you know, 303 00:12:23,919 --> 00:12:25,360 I think I think a lot of it is these 304 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,960 kids that come in that we've had here at LSU, 305 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,720 so many of them have come in with elbow troubles. 306 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,559 I think the majority of them came in with some issues, 307 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,279 maybe not not having already had the injury, but they've 308 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:36,159 already get the mileage they've already got to wear. 309 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: And then also guys are throwing faster. 310 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 8: How many guys you've see now throwing ninety You know 311 00:12:40,279 --> 00:12:41,759 back in the day that was crazy. If you have 312 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:44,399 one or two guys in your roster, let's go right now, 313 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:46,679 it's I mean almost all of our guys out there, Contron. 314 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 5: It's like a guy you never heard of throwing ninety four. Yeah. 315 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 6: I felt like back in the day is like the 316 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,720 people that threw hard, you couldn't really figure out why, 317 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:55,559 But now we kind of know why with somelaw motion 318 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,360 and media, like people can coaches can explain how you 319 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,600 create your torque, how you create your leverage, how you 320 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:03,519 can actually levers throughout your body to create the lag 321 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,840 to the to the wrist of the ball to the arm. Yeah, 322 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,639 create that speed. Some people are doing it. The body 323 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,000 might just not be built for it, would you say, too, 324 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:13,000 like maybe some aren't conditioned. 325 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: Maybe the conditioning process to get to a point where 326 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,799 you can handle all the activity on your arm too. 327 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:21,399 I mean I feel like that is really important, like 328 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,240 to make sure just like any muscle. It's like if 329 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:26,679 I know I'm going to use this muscle during this 330 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,320 year for me, and it's gonna sound funny because I'm 331 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,600 a meat heead. Like for me, it was neck like 332 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,559 before we went into like a football season, I know 333 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,799 it's gonna play running back, fullback, and man, I was 334 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:39,440 gonna get some extra neckwork in because I did not 335 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:40,240 want to have stingers. 336 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: I want to have a strong neck, and that was 337 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,080 my thought process. 338 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: I think some of that too, is because like you 339 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:48,879 just you start this this season and you never really 340 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:50,720 gave yourself any time to recover, but then you didn't 341 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,759 build yourself back up to be able to handle those innings. 342 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think that's a big part of it. 343 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,840 You know, I definitely remember doing the neck workouts as well. 344 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,200 We got plenty of those in. But yeah, I think 345 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,960 you know, it's it's and again it's when you're throwing 346 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,600 so hard. You know, we talked about the curve ball, 347 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,919 but the other thing is how hard are you throwing? 348 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,759 You know, these guys that are throwing just I mean, 349 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:12,519 that's a lot of torque to put on an arm, 350 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,919 right you're throwing you know, ninety to one hundred miles hours, 351 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,720 over and over and over, and and you know it 352 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,879 doesn't take much, and you know it's it's a you know, 353 00:14:19,919 --> 00:14:21,320 one of my colleagues that told me, you know, you 354 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,919 kind of use the metaphor you think about if you're 355 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,919 going around a sharp bend and you're in like a 356 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,000 sports car, you're in a corvette, you're in a Ferrari 357 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:29,039 something like that, you're going quick around that corner. 358 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just the slightest little little pitch of the slightest. 359 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,639 Speaker 8: Little curve and all of a sudden you're going over 360 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:35,720 the edge, you know. And it's it's a lot different 361 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,480 when you're going in that that you know, pinto and 362 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:38,039 you're going slow. 363 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: You ain't gonna roll over the side. 364 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: You know. 365 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,919 Speaker 4: That's me throwing. I'm not worried about an arm injury. 366 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:42,879 Probably I can't throw hard. 367 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,559 Speaker 8: But these guys that have that elite arm speed and 368 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:48,879 arm arm velocity, you know, one little thing in their technique, 369 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,159 and that can happen from is my core strong enough? 370 00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: Am I am? 371 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:51,919 Speaker 5: I am? 372 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,919 Speaker 8: I getting fatigued, my technique gets bad, and then you 373 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,519 have that injury. And that's that's I think a big 374 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:56,879 part of it. 375 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: I feel like there should be a baseball for pictures. 376 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 There should be a weight limit in four. You have 377 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:03,279 to be a certain weight to be able to throw 378 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,080 ninety eight and above. Like when the skinny boys do it, 379 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,000 they're the ones that get the problems. When Paul Skins 380 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,799 does it, looks pretty normal. 381 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: It's a large human. 382 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:15,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, skinny boys shouldn't be throwing that fast yourself. 383 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,159 Speaker 5: Is that your medical advice? That's medical. 384 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Skinny boys got to create sewing that elbows out there. 385 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,399 Paul Skins is just like right in the tonnel. 386 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:27,279 Speaker 4: We're going to talk to coach on that one. 387 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get the study done. 388 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if Big Youth Baseball is gonna let 389 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,360 us get that study. 390 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,159 Speaker 5: Through, but yeah, document man, we look forward to it 391 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,559 every week. 392 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: We appreciate it, sir, my pleasure. 393 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: All Right, we will step away. 394 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,519 Speaker 3: We've got Kim Mulkey joining us in about fifteen minutes 395 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:44,799 from now to kind of preview the SEC basketball tournament. 396 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,919 We'll do that for you much more when we come 397 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,039 back here on ot B Live from. 398 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:49,919 Speaker 5: The Raisin Kine studio. 399 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,279 Speaker 3: Off the bench, all right, go to go Tommy's dot com. 400 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,960 That's much better than your how G E A U 401 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,440 X Tommy Lie dot com. 402 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 5: That is the website. You'll clearly see the difference. When 403 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:03,600 you go there. 404 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: You check out a gallery of work, past client results 405 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,240 that they've done, and you can also check out the 406 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,279 banners year after year after year. 407 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:10,759 Speaker 5: That's all you do. 408 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:13,399 Speaker 3: They stack awards over there at Tommy's, including the twenty 409 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,159 twenty five Advocate Best Windows Well that went to Tommy's Windows, 410 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:18,399 Doors and Siding. 411 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,799 Speaker 5: So go to the website today. 412 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,879 Speaker 3: Tommy and the team come out to your home, come 413 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:25,120 out to your business. No job is going to be 414 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:27,320 too big for Tommy and the team. Go Tommy's dot com. 415 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,159 Speaker 6: So I go to go Tommy's Windows Doors Saturday. They 416 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,799 got it off. If you got a project happen. It 417 00:16:31,799 --> 00:16:34,279 doesn't matter the size of the project. If you just 418 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,200 replaced a door, window, whatever it is. Maybe you got 419 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,559 a little route. We're in South Louisiana. 420 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: It happens. 421 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 6: I had to do it. I had to replace all 422 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:41,639 of my windows. Maybe you got a new bill to 423 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:43,919 be build a new home. Maybe you're extended. Make sure 424 00:16:44,039 --> 00:16:46,799 you give Tommy a call. Let them talk about the project, 425 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,080 talking about pricing. How good. Let me improve to you 426 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,399 why they went award after award afterward, go to go 427 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,879 Tommy's dot com night. 428 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:55,879 Speaker 5: Don't leave your girl around me? 429 00:16:56,039 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: Truth playing for brill, that's my forrill. 430 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:10,519 Speaker 5: Go smelling, smelling, don't need the girl around me. You 431 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:12,720 play your forrill. That's my little carill. 432 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:17,559 Speaker 7: Si. 433 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: You will ride in a life, but you gotta be smart. 434 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:31,279 Speaker 5: But sell a grey shirt with the guys. 435 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: I sacrifice. 436 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 5: I knew you could not sleep. 437 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: With me off the bench presented by her Dental. 438 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:51,039 Speaker 5: Oh my girl, you see. 439 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,559 Speaker 4: The world. 440 00:17:53,799 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 5: But just anybody underrated hit hair Matt who sings a song? 441 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:13,039 I don't know mat listen to it. You're pretending, you're 442 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:14,759 pretending that you don't know who this is. You're not 443 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:15,400 being serious. 444 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: Is it Usher? 445 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 446 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: Dude, you know this stuff. Just be comforted. 447 00:18:20,519 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 6: I don't I didn't know it. You just you listened. 448 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:25,000 I don't thought about it. I mean I didn't hear 449 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:26,960 it was us. I hear an Usher song every now 450 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,319 and then when somebody plays it. I never had a record. 451 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,079 I never had his record, his disc tape. 452 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:36,039 Speaker 5: I didn't know that. It just wasn't in my reperts 453 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:40,480 while growing up. His voice is so distinct. Yeah, very much. 454 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,599 Speaker 3: You didn't listen to Usher growing up, so when you 455 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,079 made a I mean I heard the songs when they 456 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,720 were playing, and you made a mixed CD for Susie Q. 457 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: I never downloaded. I never illegally downloaded. 458 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:53,079 Speaker 5: An Usher song. Okay, just stay with me. 459 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: It didn't get played on one of two seven. 460 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:57,279 Speaker 5: Blaze, right, I knew, I knew that was coming. 461 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: But like Jimbo says Susie Q, right, when you made 462 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:04,240 that burnt CD for her that you put on there, 463 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:11,200 M George straight h carried away danger. 464 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: Great song, just trying to figure out your I mean 465 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,039 you passed out a mixed I'm not hating on anything. 466 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:21,000 It just wasn't trying to get behind the brain here, 467 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:21,759 which is scary. 468 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I ever made any high school mixtapes. 469 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,039 Speaker 5: You never made a burnt CD. 470 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: For what I did, not for not for ladies. 471 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 5: Really that's odd, right. 472 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,559 Speaker 2: I don't know. 473 00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: I didn't meet my wife in high school, and I 474 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,759 know I did, but I'm saying, like, even before I 475 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:38,160 met my. 476 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,519 Speaker 2: Wife, didn't have that special one. 477 00:19:39,599 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 5: You know, you didn't have a girlfriend. I had a girlfriend. 478 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,240 My singer late bloomer. 479 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: So focused on ball you know what I mean, I 480 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:57,279 wonder why my dad wouldn't let me feel curveball. 481 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, start it all makes sense. Now. 482 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,039 Speaker 3: If you're in Louisiana and you want the best possible care, 483 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,400 you already know the name Oschner hell from primary care 484 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,039 to specialists. 485 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: OSNAR has locations. 486 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:14,319 Speaker 3: All across our state, making it easier than ever to 487 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,279 get the care you and your family need. 488 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,599 Speaker 5: And what I love is they're focused on a lot. 489 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,799 Speaker 3: Of different things, right treating injuries, helping people stay healthy, 490 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 perform at their best. And that's why we partner with 491 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:28,960 them at Elite Training Academy. I tell you that all 492 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,799 the time, right, There's a lot of different people we 493 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:34,000 could work with, but we chose Oshner for our facility 494 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,559 working with athletes right here in Louisiana. So if you 495 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,279 need to schedule an appointment, find a specialist, or you 496 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:42,279 can just learn more information Oshner dot orgus Oshner dot 497 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,160 org Healthcare build here in Louisiana for Louisiana. 498 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: I don't know a Maza's me. It's me. 499 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: Like you know the mixed CD out there and I 500 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,480 may I started making the mix. Yeah, you know, it's 501 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:58,599 putting together a playlist. I thought about you when I 502 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,680 was putting this playlist together. 503 00:20:59,799 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 5: Here take this usher. 504 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: So YouTube use behind the glass here the two y'all 505 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:18,240 were a little bit obviously, probably right past the burnt 506 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,960 c D. Maybe it was more m P three. Maybe 507 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,759 share a playlist. 508 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 9: We did all the good Thank god? 509 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,839 Speaker 5: Uh did y'all pass them out? 510 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I did not like. 511 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:34,839 Speaker 6: It was me, But I do remember buying that, like 512 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,640 that big roll of tower, the tower blanks. Then you 513 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440 got the you could print out the they had the 514 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:44,720 custom templates, print out the sticker and. 515 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,839 Speaker 3: I always just got stuck in her, never never popped 516 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,599 right back out. Yeah, your computer shivered when you bought 517 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,039 that Tower CD. The new line was about to give 518 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:57,160 it everything. And yeah, somebody said, not give up. That 519 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,240 was too respectable to put Limeware on the family canter. 520 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,119 I actually the family computer. I downloaded the O G Napster. 521 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:05,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 522 00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: And then college was more like LimeWire people, not Rap City. 523 00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:11,839 Speaker 5: But do you all remember rhaps I do, but I 524 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,279 went I would. Rhapsody was a little after them. I 525 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:17,880 remember rap Limelier had a competitor. 526 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 6: It was the same thing. I think it was called 527 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:23,400 Kaza Kazza. And then later in college it was torrents. 528 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:27,240 You were download torrents that I don't remember, Uh, download 529 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,799 these torents. You can download whole albums in like two seconds. 530 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:33,519 And it was fit on a CD. Pretty well all 531 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:36,880 behavior out there, you know what else as well behavior. 532 00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:40,519 We don't talk politics on the show, not a lot. 533 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 5: God, but pizza, pizza went up. Pizza sales around the Pentagon. 534 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,720 There's kind of something going on. 535 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 6: Makes a lot of sense, and so we don't talk. 536 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:54,519 We're not going to we're not going to like dive 537 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:58,079 into geopolitical We're not going to dive into them. But 538 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,519 it's real and yeah, it's but the pizza sales, you're saying, 539 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,880 keep your hand on swivel, keep. 540 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,079 Speaker 5: You had on. 541 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 9: You like dominoes or props or whoever in DC, Like, 542 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:16,759 are you hoping for something bad to happen another international 543 00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:18,680 conflict to spike these sales a little bit? 544 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,039 Speaker 2: I think some. 545 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know, but a lot of 546 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,039 pizza going around. I don't know if you're hoping. I 547 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:34,599 don't think everybody likes to admit that, but certainly a 548 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,200 lot of pizza. But we certainly praying for our troops, 549 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,200 playing for the people out there. 550 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: Anytime I hear pizza, I still think of Coach Miles, Like, 551 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,039 first day you. 552 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 5: Had the audacity to order a pizza in the classroom. 553 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: Pizza, I think a pizza. 554 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 5: Oh, straight to the classroom. 555 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:58,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody ordered a pizza to the classroom and everybody 556 00:23:58,839 --> 00:23:59,319 had to run. 557 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,279 Speaker 2: It's like, uh, that's time's a Ridgemont High. 558 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 6: No, no, And everyone had to watched them. Remember we watched 559 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,839 them run. I thought we had to run, and then 560 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,400 they had might we might have had. 561 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,279 Speaker 3: We ran a little bit, and then they ran stadiums 562 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,680 and we sat there and watched them run stadiums. 563 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 5: But we didn't know this man. 564 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: I mean, he recruited me at Oklahoma State, but I 565 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,559 didn't know him, know him, knew coach Monkin Todd Monkey 566 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,079 was now the coach of the Browns. Funny enough, because 567 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,039 he was my primary recruiter. I talked to last like 568 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,880 once or twice. But the audacity to order. 569 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,759 Speaker 6: Up, that's probably the from our age group and our team. 570 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:36,519 That's probably the most quoted Miles thing he ever said. 571 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:39,319 Speaker 3: I would say that's one and take a lap, making 572 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,039 a long lap. It's number two. 573 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 574 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,559 Speaker 3: You probably didn't have to do that though a whole lot, 575 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,119 because it was like if you fumble it or if 576 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,759 you like hit a guy. Late quarterbacks probably didn't have 577 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,000 to do that very much. Actually, Marcus actually fumbled a 578 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:53,640 couple snaps. I do remember him happening to do it, 579 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,440 expect when you used to go under center. 580 00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,599 Speaker 9: I always say that if if you get in trouble 581 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,839 for something, didn't make it count, order you to pizza 582 00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:02,960 to your classrooms a lead. 583 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: I like that. 584 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 5: That's a good one. 585 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: If it's a good pizza. 586 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but that that's a good Did you share 587 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 with the class No? 588 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:14,839 Speaker 3: I bet it was mister Gaddy's. Remember it used to 589 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,440 be right there, like close to key delivery. It was 590 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000 by well where Louise is. Now that you said, what 591 00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:25,720 was that when we were in college, it wasn't Louise 592 00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:27,279 obviously Louise was down the road. 593 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:28,759 Speaker 5: Was it a Wendy's? 594 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:36,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, dollar menu, chicken sandwich, lots of those. 595 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,799 Speaker 3: All right, we were going to step away and uh 596 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,920 whuendn't we come back? 597 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: What was the segment? 598 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:48,519 Speaker 9: What was herd CDs and running for pizza? 599 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,079 Speaker 5: This was the wolf facts backs? What this was? So back? 600 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: You put all four brains together and we come up 601 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,240 with one in between two interview segments. Yeah, yeah, what 602 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,799 do we do? I could talk talk salary cap and 603 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,720 transition tag and franchise tags and. 604 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:10,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the quote I was trying to look 605 00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,079 out when he was talking about Pama John's wanting disaster 606 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,920 to happen. I think this came from Churchill World War two. 607 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,440 I think other leaders have also said this, never let 608 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,599 a good crisis go to waste. 609 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: There you. 610 00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:27,799 Speaker 2: I like it, People don't love the message. People like so. 611 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:36,519 Speaker 3: I mean, what other show can go from burnt CDs 612 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,720 and mister Daddy's to one of the best coaches in 613 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,240 college basketball, Kim Molkey this show, and we're gonna do 614 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,640 it when we come back here on TV. 615 00:26:44,519 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: Off the Bench, Off the Bench presented by Hoodental. 616 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back he in OTV here live from 617 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,759 the Raising Kines Studio. Always our pleasure every single Wednesday 618 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:17,599 at eight point thirty to catch you up with the 619 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,799 head basketball coach of the LSU Tigers. 620 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: Coach Kim Mulki joins us now. Coach. Always appreciate it, 621 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,359 always look forward to it. Hope you're doing well, doing. 622 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 7: Great, guys, doing good. Just backing out of the garage 623 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:35,559 and the practice this morning and going to head to Rainville, 624 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,920 South Carolina this afternoon for a conference tournament. 625 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:42,759 Speaker 10: So we're right in the sick of things absolutely, and coach, 626 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,359 you know, we've had a chance to catch up obviously 627 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,880 over the last couple of weeks, but just kind of 628 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,200 going back in one of the things that I love 629 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,759 if you have a you know, a tough loss against 630 00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,160 South Carolina, but then have a gritty, incredible, gritty win 631 00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,720 on the road, a and soul mess and then since 632 00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,599 then you take care of Missouri and Tennessee at home, 633 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,359 you go on the road and get a great win 634 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,440 and a tough place to play at Mississippi State. 635 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,039 Speaker 3: So the way your team's responded heading into this SEC tournament, 636 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,799 do you feel like you are in a great spot 637 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960 because you've had a couple of different wins that have 638 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,400 been different ways. Some have been coming from behind, some 639 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920 have been dominating the game, and this team and your 640 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,279 team look like you are heading into the SEC tournament 641 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:19,920 in a big way. 642 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 7: I felt all year long that we just haven't had 643 00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:29,240 losses that have devastated us. We have had disappointments, you know, 644 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:35,720 misfree throws here, turn over there losing composure a little bit. 645 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,960 But if you look at our four losses, it's learning opportunities. 646 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,039 Did we get better? Did we lose multiple games because 647 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,400 of it? The only back to back game we lost 648 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,519 games we lost was right out of the gate in 649 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:55,359 the SEC, and I feel like we've grown from that now. 650 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:01,240 The conference tournament is not something I emphasized. Certainly as competitors, 651 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,519 we want to win it, but and you know, we're 652 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:07,319 going in the South Carolina territory as we do every year. 653 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:13,119 But regardless of what happens there, most important is the 654 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,119 the nca Playoffs, and we'll find out on Sunday the fifteenth, 655 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,279 do we host here and where we go? And that's 656 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:20,440 the fun part. 657 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, Coach, It's one of the things I look forward 658 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,160 to every single year, is kind of asking you about 659 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,680 the SEC tournament because every single year, I know you 660 00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,799 kind of look at it a little differently. And you 661 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,559 know in years past you've talked about, hey, what did 662 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,240 we do last year? Okay, that's what we did last year. 663 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,000 We'll see if we can do one game better. Because 664 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,279 obviously the I is on the NCAA tournament. So as 665 00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,079 you look at this current setup for the SEC Tournament, 666 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,559 you're going to have obviously a by situation where you 667 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:46,319 get a chance to kind of see what's going to 668 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:49,400 be in front of you there. Maybe what's the mindset 669 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,720 heading into this year's SEC basketball tournament. 670 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 7: Well, they've been off for two days since our last game, 671 00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:59,079 So we'll get in the film room this morning. Oklahoma 672 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,519 is in our brack. Get in. They're sitting there waiting 673 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:03,960 to see who they're gonna play, and then we'll play 674 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,480 the winner of Oklahoma and whoever comes up. So we'll 675 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,839 prepare today and probably go over Oklahoma today and then 676 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,200 see what happens. But when we get on the floor, 677 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 it's gonna just be sharp. It's gonna just you know, 678 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:20,599 do some things to sharpen up what we need to do. 679 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:24,799 Rather that's transition defense, attacking zones, may be even working 680 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:29,480 on our presses, just anything that we may need, not 681 00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,720 just in the SEC tournament but in the NCAA tournament. 682 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,960 So that's what we'll spend a lot of time on. 683 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,960 We'll congratulate the players that made All SECS, sixth Player 684 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,279 of the Year and Freshman Team, but we don't dwell 685 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,279 on that much. Those players know that with good success 686 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,079 as a team. Individual accolades will happen, but they just 687 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,559 move on and there'll be a hard work day because 688 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,480 we have to get up at six in Greenville and 689 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,480 practice on the court tomorrow for forty five minutes, or 690 00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:03,359 if we choose not to do it, we won't be 691 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,839 on that floor until game time. 692 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, we certainly want to get to the individual awards 693 00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:11,799 and highlight them on this show with you. But but first, 694 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,480 let's talk a little bit more about this SEC tournament. 695 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,680 So you you took care of business, You did what 696 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,400 you had to do the last two games to secure 697 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480 that double buy for the tournament. How much of advantage 698 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,200 do you think that gives you just being able to 699 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,359 see just the teams play in front of you once 700 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880 maybe twice before you get the match. How big good 701 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,119 advantage is that for you? 702 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,759 Speaker 7: Well, the advantage is resting, you know, the advantages they 703 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:39,039 start play today, And think about this, those that play today, 704 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,799 they would have to win five games in five days 705 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,000 to win the SEC tournament. And really that's unheard of. 706 00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,960 And I always say SEC or should I say conference 707 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:56,039 tournaments or for two reasons one Cinderellas get an automatic bid. 708 00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:59,400 How often do you ever see that on the women's side, yes, 709 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,039 you can see on the men's side, and I think 710 00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,200 also it may be a money maker for some leagues, 711 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,599 and I would say it's a money maker for the men. 712 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,400 So I've just never been a big proponent of SEC 713 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,440 or conference tournaments, even when we've won so many there 714 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,480 at Baylor through the years. I mean, we won like 715 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,759 eleven straight SEC titles in a row, and then we'd 716 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,759 go and have to play in the conference tournament and 717 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:30,000 try to win that. It's just a lot of things 718 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,599 not good can happen if you're a high seed. You 719 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,480 lose man or is it a selection committee going to 720 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,519 a punish you for that, or even injuries. So I'm 721 00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:41,920 not saying all this because I have a bad attitude 722 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,240 going there. We're competitors. We're gonna prepare just like we 723 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:48,799 do every game. But people know that. I think it's 724 00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:53,599 just a waste on the women's side. But we'll prepare 725 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,640 and we'll go up there and try to win three games. 726 00:32:56,319 --> 00:33:01,039 Speaker 3: And to win it good enough with LSU had basketball 727 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,759 coach Kim Moulky here on OTB coach, what about the 728 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,200 NCAA tournament and you're going to be hosting it's going 729 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,279 to be here in the PMAC in ben Rouge. But 730 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,440 how much do you try to, if at all, do 731 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,480 you try to figure out maybe possibilities that you would 732 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,119 face and try to get a leg up on maybe 733 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,480 preparing for those teams or is it Hey, we find 734 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,400 out on selection Day and then we start to get 735 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,720 to work at that point. 736 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 7: The only thing I can tell you when we go 737 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,400 into selection Sunday is we're going to be in there 738 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,119 and we're going to host the first and second round games. 739 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,480 The top sixteen seeds get to do that. I never 740 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:39,400 ever know what our seed number will be, whether it's two, three, 741 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,680 it doesn't really matter to me. I've won when we 742 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440 were one seeds. I've lost when we were one seeds. 743 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,920 I've won when we're two. You know, we won the 744 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,160 Natty here and we were a three seed. The other 745 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,799 part is you just do not know the other three 746 00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:57,839 teams that will be sent to you. And that's a 747 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,839 good thing. That's a fun part. Think about this. We're 748 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,480 heading to the SEC tournament, guys, and think about who 749 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:09,119 we're gonna have to play. Is probably tougher than playing 750 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,679 in the NCAA tournament. When you get to a final four. 751 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,360 You've got South Carolina ranked third, You've got Texas ranked fourth, 752 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:19,840 You've got Vanderbilt fifth, worse six in some polls. You're 753 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,920 not gonna see that at a final four. That's how 754 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,320 tough this league is this particular year. 755 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,639 Speaker 6: Because let's talk about in the in a fan obviously 756 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,960 the toughest conference and it's ultra prepared for the NCAA tournament. 757 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: Well. 758 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 6: In the SEC handed out some awards, so let's highlight 759 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,119 highlight those ladies a little bit with the Malaysia four 760 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,239 Wiley sixth Woman of the Year FLA Je Johnson First 761 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,360 Team All I see MICHAELA. Williams First Team All SEC 762 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,039 is at Kai Johnson all freshmen. Of course, it's about 763 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,440 the team and you're going to celebrate them quickly and 764 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,480 get on about the team. But of course in basketball 765 00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:58,400 like you can't have that team without those individuals. So 766 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,320 certainly well represent of you and your squad and a 767 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,440 great to get those individual achievements for your team. Just 768 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,840 talk about them just for a moment. 769 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 7: You're happy for the individuals, I know it. It kind 770 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,760 of boosts their pride and boosts their confidence. But at 771 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,400 the end of the day, the type of program we 772 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,880 run is that maybe you don't get those awards if 773 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,360 we don't have good seasons, right, and so they understand that, 774 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,239 they understand the individual awards are not bigger than the 775 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,880 team awards, and so you acknowledge it. It but it won't 776 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,280 be long. It'll just say congratulations to you, guys. You 777 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,159 know awards. Guys, y'all know this. You've been in athletics 778 00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:46,599 through entire lives. Awards are somebody's opinions, and sometimes we 779 00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:48,840 get it right and sometimes we get it wrong. We 780 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,960 can't vote for our own players. We nominate our players 781 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,880 and then the other coaches vote for them. And I 782 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,079 have learned in forty years of doing this that there 783 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:03,360 are some really bad selections sometimes because coaches try to 784 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,400 protect their own and instead of doing what's right, they'll, 785 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,159 you know, lowball of kids so their kid can can 786 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,039 make it. And then there are those years where I 787 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:15,639 always wanted you to put your name on your ballot. 788 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,000 Don't do it anonymously. Put your name on a ballot, 789 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:20,960 because I feel like if you put your name on 790 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,880 a ballot when you vote, it's pretty much fair. I'll 791 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,159 give an example. Full Wally wasn't on the all defensive team, 792 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,039 but yet she's up for defensive National Player of the Year. 793 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,239 She's like, you know, it's so cute and funny, and 794 00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,760 I'll just use me as an example. I don't give one. 795 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,440 I don't get more money, I don't care about Coach 796 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,400 of the Year any of that stuff. But it was 797 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,599 so funny to me. My second year at LSU, my 798 00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:57,599 first year, I'm sorry. At LSU, we had that big turnaround. 799 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,440 Remember it's the team had won what's nine game and 800 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,559 finished bottom of the SEC, and man, we come in 801 00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:06,960 here and we finished second in the league, biggest turnaround 802 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,480 in SEC history. And I get two votes for Coach 803 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,800 of the Year. I'm good with that, but it was 804 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,920 so aggravating to me because I then had to go 805 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960 to the final four and pick up ap National Coach 806 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,119 of the Year. And I just thought that was so funny, 807 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,559 and you know, I didn't want either one. But it 808 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,000 gives you an example of, you know, everybody trying to 809 00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:36,079 protect their own and everybody has different opinions, and I've 810 00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,519 always believed give the Coach of the Year to the 811 00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:43,559 people who win the league. That way, you take out 812 00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:48,719 all the politics of everybody personal vendettas against each other. 813 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,000 You know, just give it to whoever wins the league. 814 00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:55,360 That's that's pretty simple. But we were I was pleased. 815 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,440 I thought the awards were pretty fair this year. But 816 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,800 it's just kind of funny to me. You can't get 817 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:04,639 something in a conference, but then the national people view differently. 818 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,559 Speaker 5: Yep, I love the way you put that because I 819 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,159 agree with you. Coach whole hardly. We see that too 820 00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:11,079 many times. 821 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 3: And so you know, a lot of great players, though, 822 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,880 did get some of those honors, and Flaje Johnson obviously 823 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480 is one of those players. And coach Senior Night just 824 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,679 happened not that long ago, and it's very cool to 825 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,480 kind of see some of the scenes and see the 826 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:27,360 fans appreciate Flage's career and what she's done and to 827 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,599 stay the course here and to play all four years 828 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,599 and you know, play meaningful minutes. Obviously big big part 829 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,280 of the team ever since she walks onto campus. And 830 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,599 I know you've coached a lot of great players throughout 831 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,519 your time coaching basketball, but I know Flage certainly one 832 00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,119 of those players is going to hold a special place 833 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:42,440 for you. 834 00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 7: Well, Fase was the first McDonald's All American that we 835 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:53,039 signed at LSU, and she has just been someone that 836 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,760 all over this campus. Everybody knows Flage. I don't even 837 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,840 think they know her last name. Everybody just knows big 838 00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:05,599 Big Pou. How they say big po Right. She will 839 00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,800 go down in the history of LSU athletics, not just 840 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,320 women's basketball as a household name. Certainly she will be 841 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,280 known for getting her ring International championship, but there's so 842 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,840 much more to that young lady that people don't even 843 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,760 know about. You know. She just always giving of her wealth, 844 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,559 always doing for people in the community. And we need 845 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:36,000 more young people now during this NIL era, to share 846 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:41,719 their wealth with people who need things. And Flage does that, coach. 847 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,679 Speaker 6: I want to ask you one last thing. This is 848 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,599 a little bit off topic, but my wife showed me 849 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:50,840 something on social media this past week and it's it 850 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,519 made me laugh and think about you. Of course, it 851 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:57,239 was a there's this internet trend going out around there 852 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,519 and it's it's a video of mom that are youth 853 00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,480 sports moms, and it says how I thought I would 854 00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:06,039 be as a youth sports mom. And they're sitting on 855 00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,880 the sideline golf clapping and saying go, Team Go, and 856 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,039 then it clips goes to a clip and it says 857 00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,480 how I actually am as a youth sports mom. And 858 00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:17,039 it's a video of you and getting very intense and 859 00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:20,519 fist pumping and kicking and yelling on the court and 860 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,159 it's a fantastic And got just think that Kramer has 861 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:24,960 sent you. I got to hope that he's at least 862 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,880 sent you one or two. 863 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 5: Of those videos. 864 00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, you know I don't have social media, 865 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:33,920 but I have friends, and I have fifteen players, and 866 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,679 I have seen it and it is priceless. It's hilarious. 867 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,960 There's also a lady in California that puts stuff out 868 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,159 for sending dresses up, like, oh yeah, all this stuff. 869 00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:50,000 So I have seen the fun stuff and you just 870 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,800 take it in stride. But I'll tell you ironically, I 871 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,679 was at the state tournament all day yesterday and hamm 872 00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,800 and watching teams play, and I had this conversation with 873 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:05,679 coach and we were talking about like the coaches my 874 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,800 kids had, and they were like, oh, I bet they 875 00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,800 were nervous, and I said, you'll be surprised. I said, 876 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,119 every coach that coach my kid will tell you. I 877 00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:17,760 wish we had more Kim Malke's as parents and that's 878 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,360 because I understand. You don't get involved. You stay at 879 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,440 a distance, you clap your hands, you cheer hard. But 880 00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,280 you know, it's just I guess they think I'm I'm 881 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,440 like evaluating their you know, coaching. I just don't do that, guys. 882 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,719 And I've played for some of the sorriest coaches throughout 883 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,039 my career. I played for some of the greatest coaches 884 00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,079 in my career. It didn't affect me. It didn't make 885 00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,639 me a worse player. You live and you learn. And 886 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,280 we had that conversation last night, and I said, you'll 887 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,800 be surprised. I said, every coach would love to have 888 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,360 a Kim Monkey because I don't get involved. If you 889 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,519 need me, call me. I don't wear the hurts of 890 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:03,639 the teams my kids played on. You know, I just 891 00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:05,880 show up as a parent, and if it's an intense 892 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,719 moment in the game, you bet I get involved. I 893 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,159 cheer hard. They'll tell you at LSU when Kramer was 894 00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:15,559 playing baseball, man, if he would strike out, I'd say 895 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:23,199 swing the bat, but not too embarrass them, you know, 896 00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:28,480 just be involved, you know, and enjoy it. Because all 897 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,840 y'all have children, and I'm telling you what wonderful memories. 898 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,639 They don't they go away quickly. They grow up fast, 899 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,400 and uh, it's it's just a time, especially if you 900 00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:42,760 if you grew up in athletics as you two did. 901 00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:45,320 And the other thing I would say is if your 902 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,159 kids are not into athletics, don't push them into athletics. 903 00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:50,559 Find what it is that they love and support it. 904 00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:53,920 And that's just what I believe is if you're going 905 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920 to do something, man give it everything you have. 906 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,159 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Coach, you're the best. We look forward to it 907 00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:00,000 every single weeks. 908 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,119 Speaker 3: They've travels and good luck in South Carolina coming up 909 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,760 this week and we'll catch up again with. 910 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 5: You next week. 911 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,119 Speaker 7: Okay, take care now. 912 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:09,159 Speaker 3: All right, you as well, Kim Molke. You gotta have 913 00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,559 to join us every single week here on OTB. We'll 914 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,079 take a break more on the other side when we 915 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,719 come back live from the Raising Kine studio. 916 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:21,599 Speaker 1: Off the Bench, Off the Bench presented by Hoodental. 917 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: All Right, we appreciate coach Kim Milk joining us all 918 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,280 the time, and we go long with then we're gonna 919 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,920 do it every single time we have her own here. 920 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,719 But also want to take this final minute to tell 921 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,880 you a little something. The Pelican Roof has got going 922 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,079 on all right. So over at Pelican Roof and they've 923 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,559 kicked off the third annual Run with Rufus fundraiser. Every 924 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,719 single day this month, they are running a five k 925 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,199 in the Pelican mascot costume RUFUS to raise awareness and 926 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,800 money for someone in our community who needs it. 927 00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,519 Speaker 5: This year, they're raising funds. 928 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 3: For eleven year old Joel Moskovis, who tragically was shot 929 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,159 in the spine and leaving him paralyzed from the neckdown 930 00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:05,480 and dependent on a ventilator. So Joel is currently undergoing 931 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,360 STIMSLL treatments and his family is working to raise the 932 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,519 money needed to continue those treatments this year, which could 933 00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,800 help hen regain some function. The goal is forty thousand 934 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,280 dollars in every single donation helps Joel and his family 935 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:17,960 keep fighting. 936 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 5: You can find more information at runwidthrufus dot com. 937 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 3: Again that is Run with rufus dot Com off the 938 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:25,719 bench