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In the last hour, we played a bunch 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,640 of clips from the first roughly two hours of the 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,240 Charlie Kirk memorial held in Arizona at a football stadium. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,039 They had an overflow facility as well, so they filled 13 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:51,280 that stadium and then they had an overflow facility as 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,880 well with thousands of people watching there. They were lining 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,399 up at like three or four in the morning, just 16 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:01,439 a massive turnout. And this is why I said in 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,879 the last hour, I'm not sure people who who haven't 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:15,680 been moved or who don't understand, you know, why the 19 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,040 why the outpouring of emotion and grief in the wake 20 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:22,359 of Kirk's assassination and the people who are, you know, 21 00:01:22,439 --> 00:01:28,239 trying to find some rationalization or justification for why Kirk 22 00:01:28,359 --> 00:01:32,120 was assassinated. To the people who are celebrating, I don't 23 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:40,400 think you understand what has changed. Because if you watched 24 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:46,640 that memorial yesterday, and I was. I watched it, you know, 25 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:50,319 in my home studio. I just had the had the 26 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,239 live feed up and I was recording it, making notes 27 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,400 the whole time. And I mean you could feel it. 28 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,120 You could feel the divine, you could feel the presents. 29 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:06,840 I could, and uh, that stadium was overwhelmed with it. 30 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,759 And here's the thing. In my adult life covering politics, 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:20,159 I don't remember seeing so many public officials speaking like 32 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:26,240 they did yesterday about God and about Christ. I have 33 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,599 nothing else to compare this to. I remember after nine 34 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:36,560 to eleven when George W. Bush made a speech and 35 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:42,560 he said the word crusade, and the left went and 36 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:45,360 the media, but I repeat myself, they went nuts. They 37 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,400 went nuts over it. And then Bush was like, Okay, 38 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:49,919 probably shouldn't have used that word whatever, whatever I mean. 39 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:54,560 And George W. Bush was a man that frequently would 40 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:58,680 cite you know, scriptural passage, and he would uh, he 41 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,639 would work in you know, stories and references as a 42 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,199 sort of an acknowledgment to the quote unquote religious right, 43 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,719 but to hear the kind of overt Well, here, I'll 44 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:15,879 tell you what. Let's just start with this, because I 45 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:25,159 thought the best eulogy from a political figure came from 46 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:30,759 Marco Rubio, who said, Charlie took his message with his 47 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Christian faith, his love of country. He took that message 48 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,439 to the people that he knew needed to hear it 49 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,000 the most. 50 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,319 Speaker 2: Understand where we were at that time in our history, 51 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,520 understand where we are still today. In many places where 52 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,159 young Americans are actively told that everything that they were taught, 53 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,479 that all the foundations that made our society and our 54 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,680 civilization so grand, they were all wrong, they were all evil, 55 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,479 That marriage is oppressive, that children are a burden, that 56 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,560 America as a source of evil, not of good in 57 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,960 the world. And here was this voice that inspired a 58 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,639 movement in which young Americans were. 59 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,879 Speaker 1: Told that is not true. 60 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: The highest calling we are called to is to be 61 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:21,240 in a successful marriage and to raise productive children. And 62 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:24,920 a movement that taught them that ours was not a 63 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:28,959 great country, but the greatest, most exceptional nation that has 64 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,800 ever existed in the history of all of mankind, and 65 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,000 that it's worth fighting for, it's worth defending it's worth 66 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,199 preserving and it's worth passing on to the next generation. 67 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: This was the mission and the work of Charlie. 68 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,079 Speaker 2: Kirk, and a couple things that stound out about him. 69 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,600 He led this movement, but he did so with incredible knowledge. 70 00:04:54,439 --> 00:04:58,399 It's unbelievable how much he knew. He came to me 71 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:00,959 very recently. He said some he said, I said, who 72 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 said that? He said, Marcus Aurelius. I said, what district 73 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,879 does he represent? I kind of knew it was, but 74 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,600 he said back, no, it's a Roman, you know, philosopher, 75 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,439 king or emperor. His incredible knowledge. 76 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: And let me tell you that. 77 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:19,759 Speaker 2: One of the last messages I had with him was 78 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,720 just a few days before his passing, where he wrote 79 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,680 me from overseas, I'm in South Korea. I have many 80 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,720 concerns I want to share with you when I get back. 81 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 He was constantly expanding his horizons, but he just didn't 82 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:35,439 have knowledge. He had wisdom, an uncanny amount of wisdom 83 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,680 for a man as young as he was, wisdom that 84 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:40,839 sometimes it takes a lifetime to accumulate. 85 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:42,959 Speaker 1: He had it in just thirty one years. 86 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,519 Speaker 2: He was also bold, it is so easy and listen 87 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,319 I've been guilty of it. 88 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: I think many of us have been guilty of this. 89 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: You hide behind the walls and you surround yourself with 90 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,240 people that agree with you. 91 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,879 Speaker 1: We do it as a society all the time. 92 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: Increasingly, people are moving into neighborhoods with other people that 93 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,759 agree with them politically and isolate themselves from people that. 94 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,639 Speaker 1: Do not agree with them. But Charlie Kirk was bold. 95 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:15,079 Speaker 2: He actively sought out to engage peacefully, respectfully those who 96 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,439 he disagreed with. As recently as two days ago, we 97 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,639 learned of one of the hosts on CNN who said 98 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:23,279 that one of the messages he had gotten just a 99 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,360 few days before Charlie's passing was from him inviting him 100 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,319 to dialogue. And he did this on campuses, He did 101 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,160 this on podcasts, He did this on radio shows, He 102 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:33,560 did this on television shows. 103 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:34,399 Speaker 1: Time and again. 104 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: He sought to engage those he disagreed with, because he 105 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,360 understood that we were not created to isolate ourselves from 106 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:43,240 one another, but to engage. The irony in all this 107 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,279 is that what our nation needs, one of the many 108 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:52,199 things that needs, is the ability to discuss our differences openly, honestly, peacefully, respectfully. 109 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:55,279 And Charlie Kirk did that more than anyone alive in 110 00:06:55,319 --> 00:07:07,480 America today is doing. And Charlie Kirk was impactful, impactful. 111 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Because of all the things I've said. But look around 112 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,600 this place. 113 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,519 Speaker 2: There's one hundred and something thousand people here. The President 114 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,720 of the United States is here, his entire cabinet is here. Television, 115 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,639 audio outlets, and media outlets. 116 00:07:19,279 --> 00:07:21,079 Speaker 1: From all over the world they're covering this. 117 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,879 Speaker 2: I just came from overseas and every country I stopped 118 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,480 they gave us their condolences for his passing. Impactful and 119 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:30,920 just thirty one years of life. He made a difference. 120 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:34,639 He mattered, and he will matter now more than he 121 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,920 ever has before. And let me close with this, how 122 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,680 do you remember? This is a memorial service, it's to 123 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,519 honor him. How do you best remember it? I'll take 124 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,160 the liberty of saying what I think we can best do. 125 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,959 Speaker 1: Look, I think he had an. 126 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: A tremendous impact on young Americans in general. I think 127 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,839 he had a very special and direct impact on young 128 00:07:55,959 --> 00:07:58,800 men in this country. That's one of the greatest developments 129 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,399 I've seen. It's been very positive. I think we remember 130 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:01,839 him for that. 131 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: I think we. 132 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,959 Speaker 2: Remember him for constantly saying you want to live a 133 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,160 productive life, get married, start a family, love your country. 134 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,759 These are powerful messages. But I hope many who are watching. 135 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,959 I imagine there are people watching here tonight that didn't 136 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,199 know much about Charlie Kirk. 137 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Until eleven days ago. 138 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,879 Speaker 2: Maybe they were disengaged from politics, maybe they were partially engaged. 139 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,839 I hope one of the things they take from this 140 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,159 is that the movement Charlie Kirk led and started and 141 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,720 gave fuel to was about politics, but not only about politics. 142 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,639 Speaker 1: It was deeper, It. 143 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: Was broader, and I would say that taking the liberty, 144 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:44,879 but I'm confident he would agree. 145 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:46,519 Speaker 1: One of the things he wants. 146 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,879 Speaker 2: Us to take away from this from all of this 147 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,879 is the following his deep belief that we were all created, 148 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,399 every single one of us, before the beginning of time, 149 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,279 by the hands of the God of the universe and 150 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,519 all powerful God, who loved us and created us for 151 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,480 the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then 152 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,440 sin entered the world and separated us from our creator. 153 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:12,240 And so God took on the form of a man 154 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:16,000 and came down and lived among us, and he suffered 155 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:18,960 like men, and he died like a man. 156 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man. 157 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate 158 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:33,120 with his disciples so they could see and they touched 159 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:35,600 his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as 160 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 a spirit, but his flesh. 161 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: And then he rose to the heaven. 162 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: But he promised he would return, and he will. And 163 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,320 when he returns, because he took on that death, because 164 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,720 he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin 165 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:51,559 that separated us from him. And when he returns, there 166 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,919 will be a new heaven and a new earth, and 167 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,399 we will all be together and we are going to 168 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,240 have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all 169 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:01,159 the people we love. 170 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Thank you and God bless you. When is the last 171 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:10,960 time you heard a politician, an elected official speak like that. 172 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,879 I don't know if I've ever heard that kind of 173 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:21,320 alter call, if you will, from a politician, from an 174 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,519 elected leader like that. 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Eric Kirk was talking to her daughter, and 214 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,200 her daughter asked her why this happened, or why it 215 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,559 happened this way or something, and she tried to explain 216 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:48,440 it to her, and I just wanted to say that 217 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:53,720 in the early eighties, my grandmother and my aunt were 218 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,159 killed in an auto accident and my grandfather in the 219 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:04,559 car almost was and I just wanted to say my 220 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:07,080 brother had a pretty close walk with God back then. 221 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:10,600 And I asked my brother, I said, I said, why 222 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,519 did Grandma and and Alice have to go in this manner? 223 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,080 And he told me, he said, well, Ray, when we 224 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,639 get to heaven, we'll ask God why it happened this way, 225 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:27,879 and He'll look at us and tell us, and then 226 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,799 we'll say to ourselves, Yep, that was the best way 227 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:34,519 it could happen. That's my comment. 228 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Thet Yeah, no, it is, you know, the searching for answers. 229 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:40,960 This is the why do bad things happen to good 230 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:47,320 people and kind of question. And we struggled to find 231 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,840 those answers because we don't know. And what Erica Kirk 232 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:53,919 said in her eulogy last night or yes, you know, 233 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,480 last evening was she said she doesn't understand the plan, 234 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,639 but God does. That's what faith is, is you put 235 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:04,679 that faith in God that he that he does know, 236 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:09,320 and that's all we can do because we can't know, 237 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,440 So Ray, I appreciate the call sorry for your loss 238 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,879 too as well. I mean loss like that, especially sudden loss. 239 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:20,679 It is part of the human experience, you know, and 240 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,000 it is very human of us to try to make sense, 241 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,639 to try to find some order, some reason why something happened. 242 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,080 And there are a lot of people today that believe 243 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:37,639 that this happened for a larger reason, and we are 244 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:45,360 seeing some of that larger reason. That's faith, you know. 245 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:50,600 And it's hard for me to disagree with that because 246 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,960 the amount of people that tuned in to watch that 247 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,039 service and to hear Christ's message, the amount of people 248 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,919 that have been going back to church that sort of 249 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,240 had their eyes open to mention the line that caller 250 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:13,120 Chris made earlier, right, I mean, that's that's some good 251 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:16,960 that may come of this, is that the quote plan 252 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:20,080 I don't know. I have no idea. I'm just a 253 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:25,200 human too. Mark wants to know he did not watch 254 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,840 the service Where there are any protesters outside. I think there 255 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,600 were a couple. There was like ten to twenty. I 256 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:36,360 think not enough that made any kind of an impact 257 00:15:36,639 --> 00:15:39,639 or difference. And I think I think that's a good 258 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:42,639 sign that there were very few people that were willing 259 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:46,519 to show up to protest a funeral and behave Remember 260 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:52,000 the Westboro Baptist Church. Remember those people and how just 261 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,720 grotesque they were to the body, politic and to society. 262 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:59,759 They were shunned. I mean, just nobody supported what they 263 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:04,200 were doing. And that's where too many on the left 264 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:10,440 have now arrived, as they trash memorial services and vigils 265 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:15,519 and paint over rocks and such. So when I was 266 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,759 a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, 267 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:20,720 my mom and my dad took care of him as 268 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:23,559 he got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments 269 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,639 and not much support for caregivers and family. But things 270 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,480 are different today because of the work of so many people, 271 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,080 including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great 272 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,399 organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a 273 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,360 supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot 274 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,720 to me. I participate in the annual Walk to End 275 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:45,679 Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year, 276 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,000 and it's called once Again Pete's Pack. You can sign 277 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,279 up and you can join the team and walk with us. 278 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,559 It's on October eighteenth that truest field. Sign up at 279 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,200 alz dot org slash walk and then you could search 280 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 for my team name Pete's Pack. There's also a link 281 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,799 at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the 282 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:07,200 description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the 283 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,039 Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and so you can make 284 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:12,319 a team and join that one too, or make a 285 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:15,039 donation and help me hit my goal of five thousand dollars. 286 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,200 If you do, I really appreciate it. There are a 287 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,839 bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can 288 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,559 go to alz dot org slash walk for all the 289 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,200 dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's. 290 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:28,039 Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me? 291 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:32,160 For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments. 292 00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:35,079 This is why we walk. Let me go over here 293 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,279 to the phones and chat with Diane. Hello Diane, Welcome 294 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:38,759 to the show. 295 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,799 Speaker 4: Hey Pete, Hey Pete. I just want to tell you 296 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,039 I try to listen to you every day. I love 297 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:54,240 how you broadcast. You're so smart, you're humble, you're just wonderful, 298 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:56,880 and I think a couple of quick little I can 299 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,480 barely hear you, but I got two little things I 300 00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:06,000 would love to tell you about twenty two years ago, 301 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:10,079 I lost a very beautiful thirty one year old daughter 302 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:19,079 and it was so hard. And after about a month 303 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,839 or two, I found out what had happened and who 304 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,079 gave her the drug that took her life. And I 305 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:35,319 went there and I told him that I hated him, 306 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:40,119 but I loved him. And then a little bit later, 307 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:46,799 when he was walking me to the door, I said, 308 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:55,759 Jesus forgave Judas, I have to forgive you. Then the 309 00:18:55,799 --> 00:18:59,440 other night, Saturday night this week, this past week, my 310 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:05,559 husband and I went to Wendy's because just because, and 311 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:12,680 we went to order and this young man, young man say, 312 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:16,440 nineteen twenty years old, and the young lady was with 313 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:19,319 He walked over and he goes, I want to buy 314 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:25,519 your dinner, and my husband said, we have money, and 315 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:28,960 he said, no, I need to do this. I want 316 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:36,720 to pay forward. And he bought our dinner. Charlie Kirk 317 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:38,599 is working. 318 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Well, and I just, yeah, go ahead. 319 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: I just wanted to thank him, and I wanted the 320 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:51,920 moment to thank you Pete, for every day that you 321 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:56,599 make me listen and appreciate who you are, and when 322 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,799 you do your little giggle, it just oh, it just 323 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,319 it just makes me happy. 324 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:04,079 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Pete. 325 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: You're very kind. 326 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,319 Speaker 5: Diane. 327 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying the kind words and for listening 328 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,960 to the show. And I do appreciate that. And I'm 329 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 sorry for your loss, but I'm glad that you had 330 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,599 that moment at the Wendy's because it's stuff like that 331 00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:21,279 that puts people back in touch with their common humanity. 332 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: You know. 333 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,519 Speaker 4: Yes, and this young man and young lady they have it. 334 00:20:25,839 --> 00:20:31,160 They were smiling, they were beautiful. They were truly God's children, 335 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,160 as are all of us. And I especially give you credit. 336 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,480 You are an amazing. 337 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,599 Speaker 1: Well thank you, Diane. I do appreciate that. God bless you, 338 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:47,119 God bless you. Take care. 339 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:48,039 Speaker 4: Thank you. 340 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: So what Diane was saying there about forgiving, see, this 341 00:20:55,519 --> 00:20:57,000 is the thing too, and I've seen some of these 342 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,559 text messages, you know, people like I couldn't, I wouldn't 343 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:05,319 forgive you know, the assassin and all of this forgiveness 344 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:07,839 is what we are called to do. But it's also 345 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:15,200 for you, forgiving your transgressor your trespasser is for you 346 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,200 to carry around hate and anger your entire life is 347 00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:28,279 destructive to you as well. So his Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, 348 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,640 This was just gut wrenching to watch. She comes onto 349 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960 the stage. She stands there for a moment. You can 350 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,039 tell before she walks to the mic. She's praying. She's 351 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:42,599 got her eyes closed, her lips are moving. You can 352 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,720 see she's trying to keep it together right, to be strong. 353 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:49,799 She talked about how she went to the hospital. She 354 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,920 wanted to see her husband and she was warned like 355 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:55,079 this is not something you should see, but she said, 356 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:57,559 I wanted to see what they did to him, and 357 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:06,400 in looking over her husband body, she said that God's 358 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,839 love at that moment was revealed to her. 359 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: I also saw on his lips the faintest smile, and 360 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:23,079 that told me something important. It revealed to me a 361 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,480 great mercy from God in this tragedy. 362 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 6: When I saw that, it told me Charlie didn't suffer. 363 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Even the doctor told me. 364 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,559 Speaker 5: It was something so instant that even even if Charlie 365 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:46,359 had been shot in the operating room, it's itself, nothing. 366 00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:51,079 Speaker 6: Could have been done. There was no fame, there was 367 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,079 no fear, no agony. 368 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 5: One moment, Charlie was doing what he loved, arguing and 369 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:06,400 debating on campus, fighting for the gospel and truth. 370 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: In front of a big crowd. 371 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 5: And then he blinked. 372 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:18,039 Speaker 6: He blinked and saw his savior in paradise. 373 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was It was truly remarkable. And you'll hear 374 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:28,039 what she said next that I'm sure you've heard by now. 375 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,559 She forgives the man who killed her husband. All right, 376 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,839 you hear me talk a lot about incentives, right, Well, 377 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,359 let's talk about incentive trips, the kind that companies offer 378 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,680 employees to fire them up and reward their teams. If 379 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,839 you own a business or you work somewhere that offers 380 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,799 these incentive trips, first off, good for you. But also 381 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,480 there is a custom app that's a game changer for 382 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:54,440 these trips. It's called Incentive trip Kit. Private group messaging, 383 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:58,799 shared photos, your itinerary, travel details all built into a single, 384 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,119 easy to use app. There's even a traveler locator, so 385 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,119 carl from Accounting doesn't get left behind. The best part 386 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,000 about Incentive trip Kit it's totally private. No email captures, 387 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,200 no sign ups, no cringe ads. It's simple, clean and 388 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,279 secure and when the trip is over, Incentive Trip Kit 389 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,359 turns those highlights into a professional storytelling video. So think 390 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,640 about it. When you launch next year's incentive trip campaign, 391 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,359 that video becomes your greatest motivator. Talk about a return 392 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,599 on investment, right, You gotta check out Incentive trip Kit 393 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,559 for your business. Visit incentive tripkit dot com because great 394 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:38,559 trips deserve even better returns. From the text line, Danny says, 395 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,160 if there was ever any doubt in regard to Charlie's 396 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,400 prophetic persona, look no further than the name of his organization, 397 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,519 which started so many years ago, and many probably thought, 398 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:53,160 why name it turning Point, But as now crescendoed to 399 00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:56,400 his death in the proverbial turning point of our society 400 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:05,039 and youth within that society. In her eulogy yesterday, Charlie's widow, Erica, 401 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,960 talked about God's love being revealed to her, but also 402 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:20,839 in how there has been no violence, no rioting, no revolution. Instead, 403 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,359 we saw what Charlie always prayed we would see, which 404 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,079 is revival. 405 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 5: He knew things were not right with America and especially 406 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,720 with young people, and they needed a new direction. Charlie 407 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:42,160 passionately wanted to reach and save the lost boys of 408 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,240 the West, the young men who feel like they have 409 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,039 no direction, no purpose, no faith, and no reason to live. 410 00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,559 The men wasting their lives on distractions, and the men 411 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:03,240 consumed with resentment, anger and hate. Charlie wanted to help them. 412 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,319 He wanted them to have a home with Turning Point, USA. 413 00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:12,680 And when he went on to campus, he was looking 414 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,160 to show them a better path and a better life 415 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,400 that was right there for the taking. 416 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,839 Speaker 6: He wanted to show them that. 417 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:34,799 Speaker 5: My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men. 418 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,599 Speaker 6: Just like the one who took his life. 419 00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:43,839 Speaker 1: And then she, you know, kind of paused, and she 420 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:56,160 got emotional and offered forgiveness that young man, that young. 421 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:06,839 Speaker 5: Man on the cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them, 422 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,920 for they not know what they do. 423 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:25,079 Speaker 6: That man, that young man, I forgive him. 424 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: So this applause would last for a minute, solid minuted. 425 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:37,039 As she's trying to collect herself, she wept, crowd supported her, 426 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,720 applauded for her. In love. 427 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 5: I forgive him because it was what Christ did and 428 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:49,759 is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is 429 00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:54,359 not hate. The answer we know from the Gospel is 430 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,440 love and always love, love for our enemies. 431 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: And love for. 432 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: Those who persecute us. The world needs turning Point USA. 433 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: It needs a. 434 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,599 Speaker 5: Group that will point young people away from the path 435 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,240 of misery and sin. It needs something that will lead 436 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,319 people away from hell in this world and in the next. 437 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,079 Speaker 1: Now, there was a contrast between some of the political speeches, 438 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,119 particularly Stephen Miller's where you talked about destroying our enemies, 439 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,440 and people have been making a big deal about this. 440 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:35,559 But Ali Beth Stuckley I thought, had a very good 441 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,480 or Stucky had a very good explanation for this. She said, 442 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,400 there's this big contrast between Erica's forgiveness speech and Miller's 443 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,359 destroy our enemy speech. But she says that is as 444 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,519 it should be. It's our job to forgive, not the governments. 445 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,559 Christians give grace. The government wields the sword, we turn 446 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,759 the other cheek. The government punishes evil. That's the breakdown. 447 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,079 Let me get Tara on here real quick, Hey, Tara, 448 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:08,079 I have about a minute. 449 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, quick. First of all, I mean Erica's speech 450 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,799 was amazing, and that's what I was going to say. Look, 451 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:21,519 how the difference is that we respond with love, prayers, communion, 452 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,960 coming together. What can we do. He never preached hate. 453 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:31,000 He hated what the young kids are becoming. The liberals 454 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,240 can't say. But anyway, long source, I listened to a 455 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,079 murder podcast and they just vitriol against him. They took 456 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,680 these little snippets. You know, he's a homophobe. He doesn't 457 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440 believe people that said he would catch people. He opened 458 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:47,839 up the mic on college campuses and listened and answered openly. 459 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,759 But when he found he'd call out people that were 460 00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:54,599 making up things. But it just is amazing to me 461 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,279 and kind of makes me feel good how we've reacted. 462 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,000 We're not looting, we're not killing people, we're not setting 463 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,680 cars on fire. We're really showing basically who he was. 464 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,359 Speaker 1: Yes, Tera, I appreciate the call. Is good to hear 465 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,400 from you. In other words, it's been literally thoughts and prayers, 466 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,519 the thing that we were mocked for, most recently after 467 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,039 the Nunciation School shooting. All right, that'll do it for 468 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,759 this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could 469 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:28,039 not do the show without your support and the support 470 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,920 of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if 471 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,960 you'd like, please support them too and tell them you 472 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,079 heard it here. You can also become a patron at 473 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:39,200 my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, 474 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 475 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,519 while I'm gone.