Speaker 1: You have a major hit on your hands, and my god,
do I ever have questions for you? And it starts
with one question, is this show's success and greater success
going to be because I mean, we usually hear about
a man going through a midlife crisis. This is about
a woman.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for saying that. Like the guy runs
out and gets the motorcycle and the young hot girl
right right, But this is what it looks like to
be fifty and say, oh no, shoot, I need to
dial it back and figure it out and blow it up.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know any other ways this.
Speaker 2: Character does that can't ease into the change, just has
to exclude everything.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what makes it so relatable is that we're
not rushing through this at all. And that to me
is like, Okay, we're really going to get to know
Lisa and and the thing is is we're going to
embrace her and love her even more.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I Elena so related to Lisa, but loved her. Uh.
She's in, she's out, she's up, she's down, like you know,
like life. She's this imperfect human who's just trying to
muddle her way through like an earthquake of a life change.
Speaker 1: Well, the one thing that I picked up was that,
you know, she does have a difficult time trying to relax.
That's when I would love to step in there and say,
let me show you some books that help me learn
how to relax and to start accepting life for what
it is.
Speaker 2: Uh huh Yeah, No, I don't think that's in her repertoire.
You know, she's like, you know, zero or ten, like
there is no in between, not much of a filter
there either.
Speaker 1: I love her name. It's so radio like Lisa Giodarno Navarro.
I just think there's such a rhythm about that. I
just I love saying it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, saying it and seeing it written even is just
like right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So is there something? Is there enough room
here for her to you know, to look at her
wrongs and then to say, Okay, I'm going to get
it right this time because I'm going to experiment. And
I think that's one thing that really draws me to
Lisa is that she's not afraid to reinvent, but she
has to step back though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I hear what you're saying. And
I do think that she's almost like almost like a
teenager in some ways like this, like I don't really
know how to do this because I've been on this
channel all my life and now I'm blowing everything up
and I don't really know how to do this the
right way, Like I don't know it. Later in the
series when she has that little tet tet with that guy,
and even that she doesn't even know how to do
you know what I mean. She's just like fumbling in
the dark, which I think is what's so endearing about.
Speaker 3: Her is that she's trying really hard. She's trying new things,
try to behave differently, and she fails a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to have coffee, I'm not
going to have alcohol, and then whoop.
Speaker 3: That didn't work. You know, she's so human, she's so flawed,
but she's endearing.
Speaker 1: I can relate with the teenager comment because people will
always ask me how old are you, and I go
mentally or physically, and they go, well, mentally seventeen, I
am seventeen and I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's her. I think you nailed it. Well.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's one of those things where I
went to an assisted living place and they were listening
to Justin Bieber and all of these people, these new
rap artists and stuff. And I said, with these are
old people, what's going on here? Oh no, no, no,
inside their mind, they're not old. They are into the now.
Speaker 2: Yes, And don't you think more and more? I mean
as I age and I you know, I don't feel
my age.
Speaker 3: I you know, my.
Speaker 2: Heart, I can still you know, do all this stuff
and then my body says, oh no.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, hang on a minute, you know.
Speaker 2: And then the next morning you get out of it
and you're like, wow, I thought I could climb that mountain.
Speaker 3: I think so many people feel that way, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think that's who those people are that you
were just talking about, you know, that's what makes their hardtick.
Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Elena Wall coming
up next. The name of the TV show is Middlehood.
It's found on Prime. Let's get back into that talk
with Elena Wall. Lisa gives us the opportunity to accept
frumpiness and stumbles. It's acceptable because Lisa makes her way
through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is awkward and is uncomfortable, and as many
missteps as she takes, you know what you got to
love about her she's trying yep, you know. Yeah, she
didn't lay down and die. She is kicking and screaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I have to agree with you on that
because so many times, I mean, when I was growing up,
when you heard that your grandparents were in their fifties,
you're going, what, that's ancient. Well, now that we're here,
it's like, no, it's not. They were living life too.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, I completely relate to what you're saying.
It's like, back when we were teenagers, we thought people
in their forties were like one foot in.
Speaker 3: The grade, right, right, that's true. But now we're here
and we're like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: We'reas vibrant and have as much to offer and probably
more with age comes wisdom yep than one might think.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you on that. One of
the things that Lisa has to deal with. I call
this standing on the corner of walk and don't walk.
It's marriage and divorce and oh my god, at that
age that is happening. That's a reality check there.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, when you get to be that age and
you look around you and you ask yourself.
Speaker 3: What she does? Am I happy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? My getting what I ask for. Is the person
that is my partner in life showing up for me?
Or is it like the adults? Is it no spark?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: We're just going through the motions and so many people
don't have the courage to say, you know what, I
want more? And she does And I think that's what
as a character makes her exciting to watch and see
how difficult it it actually is to do that.
Speaker 1: Have you learned anything from this character?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think I have.
Speaker 2: I think what I've learned well from going through the
motions with her, it's just how difficult it is to
turn a tide to ask those people around you.
Speaker 3: Her father, her mother, you know you just can't. You
can't say that mom and dad or to her husband.
Speaker 2: I need this from you, and if you can't give
it to me, I mean, ask me what you need
of me. But I need this, to actually ask for
what you need in life. Super hard to do, and
she does it. And I think she gave me a
little bit of, you know, by playing her, a little
bit more of an insight to one how difficult it is.
But you know what, you got to go for it.
You got one shot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I do I do. Where can people go to find
out more about you because you are so actively involved
with so many things when it comes to acting and performing.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you could go to my IMDb page.
Speaker 3: But more importantly, I think go see this show. Go
see Middlehood.
Speaker 2: You can see it on Plex for free, you can
see it on Amazon Prime, and we're coming.
Speaker 3: To YouTube TV soon.
Speaker 2: So we just would love people to know about us
and come watch her show.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
the future. The door is always going to be open
for you.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure hanging
out with you this morning.
Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, I will you have a good one, and
thanks again for having us