Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here. Something just kiss my dog. Something killed your dog?
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was? It was?
Speaker 1: It was standing up. I'm out here looking through the
Speaker 1: window now and I don't see anything. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go outside. Jesus quice you better New York. Hello,
Speaker 1: hit somebody out here? What quent on out there? I
Speaker 1: thought of a bit just about ticking fort nine? I
Speaker 1: don't know easy out there. Yeah, I'm wuking right head.
Speaker 2: Oh, greetings from Alaskas. Thanks for joining me. What I
Speaker 2: wanted to share with you today comes from We'll name
Speaker 2: her Kelly. She's from a village. The village is in
Speaker 2: the Bristol Bay area. She ended up going up the
Speaker 2: Wood River with some relatives on up to your Goula
Speaker 2: walk and they ended up between Lake Nurka and Lake Beverly,
Speaker 2: now this particular area, and I tried to pinpoint it
Speaker 2: on the map with her. She wasn't too sure because
Speaker 2: this happened back in the early sixties. I'm going by
Speaker 2: her best description as far as what she'll see on
Speaker 2: the map. Her aunt and uncle and her cousin will
Speaker 2: name him Charlie. He's since passed again. This was back
Speaker 2: in the early sixties. Her aunt and uncles were down
Speaker 2: at the skiff and they're gonna money on the beach,
Speaker 2: have a picnic there. They were getting everything ready. Her
Speaker 2: aunt asked them to go see if they saw any berries.
Speaker 2: Is there any worthwhile berries to pick over this way
Speaker 2: or whatever? Just conversation. Basically Kelly at the time, she
Speaker 2: was about fourteen years old, right, so she was like, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll go and look. And her cousin, Charlie, was a
Speaker 2: couple of years older than her. Charlie's dad. Her uncle
Speaker 2: sent him with a three fifty seven little Florence Burrow
Speaker 2: revolver in his pocket in case they came across bears,
Speaker 2: which in that area they're very common. You got multiple
Speaker 2: salmon streams and millions of fish. They're everywhere, So they
Speaker 2: take off. They knew they had at least four hours
Speaker 2: before anything was ready to eat or whatever, because her
Speaker 2: gant uncle told them, hey, go check out the trails,
Speaker 2: keep safe whatever. They go on about their way, and
Speaker 2: they make their way up this little finger. From how
Speaker 2: she explained it to me, because she was only there
Speaker 2: the one time, you know, it is several years ago,
Speaker 2: the experience is vivid, but the exact location is a
Speaker 2: little off. So they make their way up this ridge basically,
Speaker 2: and where they're going up the mountains there, they're not
Speaker 2: overly high. They're not like thousands and thousands of feet.
Speaker 2: It's the Wood River range. So they're going up this
Speaker 2: ridge off a game trail that's roughly twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: feet below the actual top of the ridge, with sloping
Speaker 2: about forty five degrees. So they get back up in there.
Speaker 2: They look around at a couple places. Once they got
Speaker 2: right around tree line and opened up a little bit,
Speaker 2: there wasn't a whole lot of berries, And they're walking
Speaker 2: along having a good old time. Got to a certain
Speaker 2: point and realized that there's really nothing here. We need
Speaker 2: to look for a different location. They turn around and
Speaker 2: started heading back down. So they come up on a
Speaker 2: little bit of a rise and the trail starts to
Speaker 2: lead back downhill. From what she was saying, her cousin
Speaker 2: Charlie was in front of her and the few blackberries
Speaker 2: that he found he's throwing up in the air as
Speaker 2: they're walking for them to fall on her, just goofing off.
Speaker 2: She said. He was always real playful and just like
Speaker 2: the joke around. So he's throwing these berries and she
Speaker 2: saved us up all that kind of stuff, just being kids,
Speaker 2: basically young teenagers. So as they're going along, the wind
Speaker 2: is blowing towards them, but it's coming over the ridge
Speaker 2: above them, so it's swirling around them. It's not hitting
Speaker 2: them directly. But a couple times during this wind swirling
Speaker 2: around them, they cut a whiff of something real bowl,
Speaker 2: which immediately stopped her cousin Charlie, who was in front
Speaker 2: of her a couple paces from joking and jovial to
Speaker 2: all of a sudden dead quiet and put his hand
Speaker 2: up to stop. So he's looking up the ridge because
Speaker 2: that's the direction of wind's blowing. So he's looking and
Speaker 2: not seeing anything right, So he squats down and does
Speaker 2: this number with his hand telling her to squat down too.
Speaker 2: They're looking because that smell triggered something within him. She
Speaker 2: didn't realize at the time. So she's whispering, what do
Speaker 2: we stop for? And he goes, did you smell that?
Speaker 2: And she said, yeah, I smiled it is that a bear? Now,
Speaker 2: she had been around bears, but never really smell on one,
Speaker 2: so she was going off for what her cousin said.
Speaker 2: Her cousin was like, it's not a bear and didn't
Speaker 2: give any explanation, just said it's not a bear. And
Speaker 2: he had that pistol out. So seeing him go from
Speaker 2: jovial and joking to pistol out, it took it to
Speaker 2: that other level of this is no longer in a
Speaker 2: fun situation. Something's off. They're on the trail coming down.
Speaker 2: They're on a slope coming down. Off to their left
Speaker 2: is thick vegetation and they're just right at the tree line.
Speaker 2: Just to their right is tree line's done. There's a
Speaker 2: couple of scrub brushes, but the rest is just uphill.
Speaker 2: As they're going, she's trying to ask him questions about
Speaker 2: what are we doing. He's looking off to his right.
Speaker 2: If straight down the trail was twelve o'clock. He would
Speaker 2: be at the two o'clock position looking up the ridge
Speaker 2: in this direction, and she's, what are you looking at?
Speaker 2: Because she's trying to see what he's seeing. He points,
Speaker 2: and so she looks, gets the direction proper, and she
Speaker 2: sees what he sees, which is dark shape, just a
Speaker 2: rounded dark shape up at the top of the ridge,
Speaker 2: which is twenty five feet in elevation, but in distance
Speaker 2: at the angle you're talking maybe forty yards forty five
Speaker 2: yards something like that. So she sees it, and he's saying,
Speaker 2: just be quiet. The wind's blowing in our face, so
Speaker 2: they haven't winded us. And she's totally oblivious to what
Speaker 2: do you mean they who? She wanted to ask, who's
Speaker 2: they respecting her cousin. He's the one in charge of
Speaker 2: keeping her safe. She shut up and stayed quiet. They're
Speaker 2: both looking at this little, rounded dark spot that didn't
Speaker 2: match any of the other terrain, and it disappears. It
Speaker 2: just drops out of you. So they're sitting there for
Speaker 2: a minute, and she's asking him what's going on now.
Speaker 2: She has heard Harry Mann's stories chalked it up too. Wow,
Speaker 2: you know that those are good stories because she had
Speaker 2: heard other people, but at that age she just chalked
Speaker 2: it up to someone trying to outdo someone else's story
Speaker 2: kind of thing, and didn't really realized the significance or
Speaker 2: the reality of it. So he is, look, it's not funny,
Speaker 2: because she was giggling. This is silly. What are we doing,
Speaker 2: he says, it's a hairy man. Not knowing any better,
Speaker 2: she starts smockingly saying, ooh, harryman, He goes, look, not
Speaker 2: a joke. Be quiet. So, with the wind blowing somewhere,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it gets like still in the air,
Speaker 2: even though the wind's blowing. She said she couldn't really
Speaker 2: hear the wind anymore. It was like the being in
Speaker 2: the eye of the storm kind of feeling. That's the
Speaker 2: best description she had of it. As this is going on,
Speaker 2: about half the distance between where this thing was last
Speaker 2: seen and where their position was on this trail, a
Speaker 2: woodland caribou comes over the ridge and its back leg
Speaker 2: is stiff, pointing backwards, half dragging it like it had
Speaker 2: been dislocated or something. This cariboo is going straight down
Speaker 2: cut half the distance between where they last seen this
Speaker 2: thing coming down the hill, and as soon as it
Speaker 2: dropped down into the trees below them. Her cousin looks
Speaker 2: back at her, and she says, they must be hunting,
Speaker 2: And so everything's becoming real to her at this point, because, Okay,
Speaker 2: he said he saw harry Man, which is whatever. She
Speaker 2: didn't see the hairy man. She just saw a dark,
Speaker 2: little lump. And then with the cariboo coming through injured
Speaker 2: and him saying that, it's really starting to she's getting
Speaker 2: the realization of the holy crap. So he says, stay quiet,
Speaker 2: back up, start backing up. So she stands up, turns around,
Speaker 2: and starts walking up the trail. He basically almost tackled
Speaker 2: her and said, stay low and keep going in that direction.
Speaker 2: I'll keep an eye out, but don't stand up all
Speaker 2: the way. Stay low to the ground. He gave no explanation,
Speaker 2: so she was just doing that, she is told. So
Speaker 2: they go back uphill a little ways, so they basically
Speaker 2: doubled the distance from where they were when they initially
Speaker 2: saw a little dark lump. They doubled the distance further back.
Speaker 2: So now where they're standing, it's a little tighter in
Speaker 2: the brush. There's scrubbrush on their right, more brush on
Speaker 2: their left. You got to understand that's not all tree
Speaker 2: lines have an exact straight line across the ebb and
Speaker 2: flow as far as elevation. So where they happened to
Speaker 2: back up to there was more brush behind them, so
Speaker 2: her cousin felt a little safer with some cover, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense. And he's looking and she's let's just go.
Speaker 2: That was her reasoning was, let's just go. Let's just
Speaker 2: take the trail. We'll be back down to the beach
Speaker 2: in no time. Let's just go. We can't hold on.
Speaker 2: Now he's recognizing something she isn't. He's recognizing there's a
Speaker 2: hunt going on, and he doesn't want to get into
Speaker 2: the middle of that hunt. So he gingerly explains, look,
Speaker 2: they're hunting that caribou's injured. They're gonna want to go
Speaker 2: after it. Because they could hear the caribou. It didn't
Speaker 2: go too much further down the hill and was working
Speaker 2: its way through the brush. It was easy to hear, right.
Speaker 2: So as he's explaining this, the dark shape reappears, but
Speaker 2: this time you could see his shoulders and head. It
Speaker 2: was obvious it was very large. So he says, I
Speaker 2: told you just stay still, stay still, stay quiet. We'll
Speaker 2: let them pass and when they're doing their thing, then
Speaker 2: we'll go because the only direction they could go for
Speaker 2: safety is back the way they came, which now they're
Speaker 2: cut off. So she was saying, was really odd being
Speaker 2: in a position to where she had no control over anything.
Speaker 2: Anyone would feel unsettled by that, let alone this thing
Speaker 2: standing up there, So she said, once it showed itself
Speaker 2: again and you could see the shoulders in the head,
Speaker 2: it was facing them, it was looking right at them
Speaker 2: from that distance, which is less than one hundred yards.
Speaker 2: It's looking at them and just assessing them. She could
Speaker 2: just feel its eyes on them, which is a creepy
Speaker 2: feeling in itself.
Speaker 1: Geez.
Speaker 2: So they sit there a moment this thing slowly blows
Speaker 2: out of you. So they're sitting there quiet, and he
Speaker 2: is I want to go. I want us to run,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what they're doing. I don't want
Speaker 2: to start running and then be intercepted as they're going
Speaker 2: out after this caribou. So they're sitting there facing this direction.
Speaker 2: Now behind them is a lot more brush. It's a
Speaker 2: brushy air spot of the trail. There's more vegetation on
Speaker 2: their right versus where they just were where it was
Speaker 2: more open and just some scrubbrush. Where they're at, they're
Speaker 2: basically backed up to where they're surrounded by brush, and
Speaker 2: they're sitting with the open field of view right inside
Speaker 2: the line of brush on the trail. She said, as
Speaker 2: they were discussing running forward or whatever, they got a
Speaker 2: real heavy rank smell, like this smell was just right
Speaker 2: on top of them. Again, he's still holding the pistol.
Speaker 2: There's still the caribou making noise off to their left.
Speaker 2: This wind is blowing, and now they got this pungent
Speaker 2: smell right on top of them. She said. She started
Speaker 2: looking around and didn't see anything, but she's looking from
Speaker 2: a squatted down position at eye level. She's just looking
Speaker 2: level around. Her cousin turns around, looks past her, up
Speaker 2: behind her, up in the brush. This thing was standing
Speaker 2: over them. She said. It was just very big, very big.
Speaker 2: So as they were focused on what was going on
Speaker 2: over here, one of these beings came behind them and
Speaker 2: was standing about ten feet behind them in the brush,
Speaker 2: looking down at them. She said, all bets were a
Speaker 2: haf I'm not laughing, she giggled, because her reaction was
Speaker 2: one of I'm gone. You can tell me, don't run.
Speaker 2: You can tell me whatever you want, but she was gone,
Speaker 2: started hauling ass, knocked Charlie over. Charlie's yelling, I don't run.
Speaker 2: He gets up, he starts running after her. Right, they
Speaker 2: get to about where they were before when Charlie first
Speaker 2: squatted down, and they're seeing this little dark spot and
Speaker 2: got the funky smell. At that point, she was overcome
Speaker 2: with emotion. She said she was so freaked out. She
Speaker 2: just crumpled down crying and was like covering her ears
Speaker 2: and was inconsolable crying. She was so freaked out because
Speaker 2: just of what's going on, she felt it was surreal.
Speaker 2: It was too much in the moment. She was too
Speaker 2: young to understand anything that heavy. So at this point
Speaker 2: Charlie's there and he's standing over her, and he's pointing
Speaker 2: the gun back behind him where they just ran from,
Speaker 2: and he goes, look, you need to get up. It's
Speaker 2: not chasing us. We need to get up. Just walk calmly, walk, calmly.
Speaker 2: We gotta go. So she's sobbing, half hunched over and
Speaker 2: he's guiding her by her arm because she said the
Speaker 2: tears are just pouring. She had snot coming out the nose.
Speaker 2: It was bad, all bad as far as her emotional state.
Speaker 2: She said she must have stumbled maybe ten fifteen steps
Speaker 2: and collapsed again, just overcome by emotion. Right again. Charlie's
Speaker 2: trying to console her and yet encourage her to keep
Speaker 2: moving on. She said at that point she felt the
Speaker 2: ground don't footsteps, and immediately as soon as she felt
Speaker 2: it in the ground, because she was a hunched down,
Speaker 2: her hands and knees were on the ground and she sobbing.
Speaker 2: When she felt that, all tears stop. She was immediately upright.
Speaker 2: She started hauling ass down the trail. I asked her,
Speaker 2: I was like, was it just the feeling of the
Speaker 2: ground moving. She said that once she felt the ground
Speaker 2: shake from this thing's weight, it had to have been
Speaker 2: close enough. It was just like the jack rabbit fight
Speaker 2: or flight response. It was flight, and she took off
Speaker 2: down that trail. She said, there's portions of the trail
Speaker 2: that dropped about three to four feet because you're going
Speaker 2: up rocks and dirt and stuff, and so the trail
Speaker 2: isn't even it's not just a well groomed path. The
Speaker 2: trail ebbs and flows and goes back and forth and
Speaker 2: drops here and goes up here and that kind of thing. Right,
Speaker 2: So she's literally leaping down these places a couple times
Speaker 2: she had to tumble over, jump back up, and continue running.
Speaker 2: I asked her. I was like, did you stop to
Speaker 2: think about your cousin? Did you stop to try to
Speaker 2: figure out are we safe yet? She said nope. Everything
Speaker 2: in her said go. That's what she did. Stay tuned
Speaker 2: for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: after these messages. Now she comes running back down to
Speaker 2: the beach. She says she doesn't remember exactly how long
Speaker 2: it took because she had tears streaming down her face.
Speaker 2: She was all scratched up from tumbling, jumping up, running
Speaker 2: through brush, all that stuff. Right. She heard Charlie yelling
Speaker 2: for her to stop a couple times because Charlie was
Speaker 2: concerned she was going to get out of sight and
Speaker 2: potentially get snatched up. She learns this later. So she
Speaker 2: makes it all the way back down to where her
Speaker 2: aunt and uncle are on the beach and they hear her.
Speaker 2: Unbeknownst to her, she didn't realize she was screaming and
Speaker 2: wailing all the way down. Charlie verified that her aunt
Speaker 2: and uncle verified it when she came back down, they
Speaker 2: heard her wailing and screaming all in ass but in
Speaker 2: her mind's eye, she was just running. She didn't realize
Speaker 2: all this stuff was going on, and she didn't realize
Speaker 2: she was screaming and all that stuff. So her uncle
Speaker 2: immediately has his rifle is coming up the trail to
Speaker 2: meet her. She blows past him. She gets to her
Speaker 2: aunt and just basically tackles her aunt looking for comfort.
Speaker 2: And her aunt was sitting on a log in front
Speaker 2: of a fire, tending to a meal, and here she
Speaker 2: comes and just tackles her aunt to the ground. So
Speaker 2: her aunt's calming her downs, telling her calm down. Her
Speaker 2: uncle's asking where's Charlie. Whre's Charlie? Off in the distance.
Speaker 2: You can hear Charlie's screaming. So her uncle assumes he's
Speaker 2: being attacked or something's happening or bear. He's thinking bear, right,
Speaker 2: So he takes off up the trail. From what her
Speaker 2: uncle and Charlie said later, his uncle went about maybe
Speaker 2: one hundred yards because the initial part of the trails
Speaker 2: threw some pretty thick brush and all that stuff, And
Speaker 2: once he cleared that and the trail opened up a
Speaker 2: little more he saw Charlie, and Charlie's facing uphill pointing
Speaker 2: his gun. His dad comes up beside him and says,
Speaker 2: where's the bear. Berry says, it's not a bear, it's
Speaker 2: a hairy man. So immediately his dad's put the gun down,
Speaker 2: head back down the trail. I'll keep an eye out
Speaker 2: or whatever. So Charlie stops pointing in that direction, still
Speaker 2: holding it, turns around and goes back down the trail
Speaker 2: to where they were gonna have this picnic. His dad
Speaker 2: stayed there for a couple of moments looking for any sign.
Speaker 2: There was no noise, no nothing, so he gingerly backs up,
Speaker 2: turns around, and goes back down the trail. So when
Speaker 2: they get back to the fire, Kelly's calmed down a
Speaker 2: little bit at this point, still sobbing her. Auntie's rocking her,
Speaker 2: telling her calm down, it's gonna be okay in this state.
Speaker 2: She's a little freaked out, still, well a lot freaked out,
Speaker 2: but she clearly hears what her cousin Charlie is saying,
Speaker 2: and that is at the point of the sound and
Speaker 2: her taking off, he watched this thing come out of
Speaker 2: the brush about five six steps towards them, it was
Speaker 2: intentionally popping, making a bigger impact on the ground, but
Speaker 2: she didn't see that. She was on all fours, sobbing
Speaker 2: like crazy. Charlie said he was shocked how quickly she
Speaker 2: ran because he was focused on this thing, putting a
Speaker 2: gun at it, and it's doing this weird boon, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, she's up and gone. Before he
Speaker 2: can even react to it, she was gone down the trail.
Speaker 2: Charlie said, he backed away from this thing because it
Speaker 2: stopped moving. As soon as she took off running. This
Speaker 2: thing stopped all forward movement, was just standing there. He
Speaker 2: never described what it looked like. All he described was
Speaker 2: a harry Man because I asked what did it look like?
Speaker 2: She had no other than it was big and dark
Speaker 2: and it was shaped like a man. So Charlie said,
Speaker 2: once it stopped, he started backing down, and once he
Speaker 2: got to a certain point, it turned away and walked off,
Speaker 2: and then he heard it go down off to his right.
Speaker 2: At this point, because he's facing up the trail down
Speaker 2: to where the caribou was still making noise down in
Speaker 2: the brush. It was making weird calls down in there,
Speaker 2: so he figured, okay, it was pushing us away from
Speaker 2: its hunt and it's continuing on. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: get out of here. But he said, as he was
Speaker 2: coming back down the trail, hollering for her, she's wailing
Speaker 2: and howling. He can easily hear she's down the trail.
Speaker 2: She was really screaming, he said. Every fifteen twenty feet
Speaker 2: he was looking around and nothing. He would point the
Speaker 2: gun because he's just felt uneasy. But once he reached
Speaker 2: the point to where his dad came through the brush
Speaker 2: and got his attention, he felt relieved. Once they got
Speaker 2: back down to the beach, basically, they took their lunch
Speaker 2: to go, They put the fire out, they packed up
Speaker 2: what little things had pulled out from there, and they left.
Speaker 2: I want to thank Kelly for sharing that. Again, this
Speaker 2: happened in the early sixties. I appreciate those people reaching
Speaker 2: out to those elders and encouraging them to get these
Speaker 2: stories shared anonymously or not, I don't care. It's all
Speaker 2: about the information that these encounters contain. There's things to
Speaker 2: be taken away from it, things to be learned as
Speaker 2: far as these things behaviors when the encounter's happening, whereas
Speaker 2: alhoots strange smells, things being thrown on and on. There's
Speaker 2: a whole list of stuff you can learn from these
Speaker 2: encounters to better make you safe, especially when there's weird
Speaker 2: stuff going on that you don't know what the hell,
Speaker 2: but what that weird sound is, and grant you bobcats
Speaker 2: make weird noises. Porcupines mating is a horrific sound. It
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like mating, that's for sure. It sounds like murder,
Speaker 2: injured hairs, all that kind of stuff. All these animals
Speaker 2: in the wild have these weird noises. It take half
Speaker 2: a lifetime to really get to know these noises. First
Speaker 2: of all, you have to be around the animal enough
Speaker 2: to understand their behavior. Not all of us are nature biologists.
Speaker 2: We're not out in the field studying bobcats and their
Speaker 2: noises are sound of a link, screaming or whatever. Not
Speaker 2: everyone has that information, so just keep that in mind
Speaker 2: as well. Rest in peace, Charlie. Back in the late eighties,
Speaker 2: Marty had just gotten out of the Air Force. He
Speaker 2: wanted to get his private pilot's license. It so worked
Speaker 2: out that he ended up being able to buy a beaver,
Speaker 2: which is a grumm and aircraft, which is a larger
Speaker 2: bush plane had all the extra tires, that had the
Speaker 2: pontoons and all that kind of stuff. He was stoked it.
Speaker 2: Had to fix it up a little bit and upgrade
Speaker 2: some of the avionics and whatnot, but he got it
Speaker 2: updated and all that kind of happy stuff. By the
Speaker 2: mid nineties he was doing everything he could to fly remote.
Speaker 2: What occurred happened in roughly nineteen ninety five. He basically
Speaker 2: got one of his buddies to go along with his
Speaker 2: buddy Lewis, and what they decided they were going to
Speaker 2: do is strap a Canuda one of the pontoons because
Speaker 2: it's big enough, fly out to remote lakes that have
Speaker 2: rivers or creeks adjacent to him, and fish them for
Speaker 2: tropped no designated Oh the best trout over here of that.
Speaker 2: They just wanted to see what was out there. He
Speaker 2: had a plane, he had the time, and so they
Speaker 2: would fly out. This was early fall ninety five. So
Speaker 2: they fly out, they fly down, They checked out kick
Speaker 2: Constantine Platinum. I mean they were basically doing a big
Speaker 2: loop around the bay, Bristol Bay. They landed there, they
Speaker 2: got a bunch of fuel, had extra fuel in the back,
Speaker 2: and they took off flying around the Wood River mountains.
Speaker 2: They get up by tick Chick and the Ticchick and
Speaker 2: narrows right Tickchick Mountain. There's a small lake on the
Speaker 2: north side of it, and he saw that and it
Speaker 2: just so happened. There was some storm clouds coming, so
Speaker 2: he pointed down to Lewis, and Lewis gave the thumbs up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great place. It looks good. So they land.
Speaker 2: The first night they were there, they just basically tied
Speaker 2: off the plane and slept in the plane because the storm,
Speaker 2: the squall rolled through and they weren't gonna be messed
Speaker 2: around outside. It was still buggy. Who wants to play
Speaker 2: out in the rain. According to the forecast, is supposed
Speaker 2: to get better the following morning. The next morning, they
Speaker 2: woke up to birds chirp and sun was outautiful, just beautiful.
Speaker 2: The clouds had dispersed and there's still a few, but
Speaker 2: nothing that was obscure in the sunlight. So Marty said,
Speaker 2: they got out, made breakfast right there on the beach,
Speaker 2: and then they unstrapped the canoe, got the paddles and stuff.
Speaker 2: They had a couple of firearms. He had at three
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Lewis had a forty four magnum in a
Speaker 2: chest holster and a twelve gage shotgun. They just stayed
Speaker 2: in the canoe. They load up all their stuff and
Speaker 2: they go down this creek and they go down a
Speaker 2: little ways, not quite a mile, maybe roughly, this particular
Speaker 2: creek that leads to the Tikchik River. It has a
Speaker 2: y right there. So they stopped there because they basically
Speaker 2: took their time. They spent all day casting, catching, releasing,
Speaker 2: having a great time. And they had some nice pan
Speaker 2: friars and they will just set up camp right back
Speaker 2: over here, have some pan fried trout and have a
Speaker 2: good time of it. They had already loaded the canoe
Speaker 2: up with extra firewood that they already had in the beaver.
Speaker 2: They were prepared. He had some really good flashlights, he
Speaker 2: had some good lanterns. They were going to bring a
Speaker 2: wal tent, but they left it in the beaver because
Speaker 2: they figured they'd just cowboy camp and sleep out in
Speaker 2: the open. That was their plan. So after this day
Speaker 2: of just pristine wilderness, fishing, just beautiful day. Even the
Speaker 2: Mosquitos couldn't get them down because it was just such
Speaker 2: a gorgeous day. So as they're sitting there, they had
Speaker 2: set up their camp just at the base amount Tikchik,
Speaker 2: on the north base of it, right at the tree
Speaker 2: line there, and they had about maybe forty forty five
Speaker 2: yards back to this little creek or small river where
Speaker 2: they were just fishing earlier that day. They were literally
Speaker 2: right where this branched off. It had a little wy
Speaker 2: there where they were sitting due west. They're watching the sunset,
Speaker 2: Marty said, He'll never forget because as they're watching the sunset,
Speaker 2: they're just awestruck by the natural beauty. You can go
Speaker 2: a lot of places in Alaska and get awestruck by
Speaker 2: trust me. So as they're looking, they noticed this big
Speaker 2: gear cutting across the tundra. He said, at first he
Speaker 2: thought it was a woodland caribou with large antlers because
Speaker 2: it looked upright. He thought it was just an optical illusion,
Speaker 2: and they were seeing caribou antlers from a large woodland
Speaker 2: caribou as it was moving across. Because you got to understand,
Speaker 2: they're literally looking at a sunset and this thing is
Speaker 2: moving across, right, and it was moving very fast. Then
Speaker 2: it dawned on them, and that's almost like a figure
Speaker 2: of a man. But it was at such a great distance.
Speaker 2: He couldn't really pinpoint anything, so he chalks it up
Speaker 2: to it it must be a caribou or whatever. So
Speaker 2: it's starting to get on into the sun had set,
Speaker 2: it was still twilight out, and as they're sitting there,
Speaker 2: and they just got done and enjoining their fish, Lewis
Speaker 2: took their frying pan and cooking utensils down to that
Speaker 2: creek and scrubbed them out. They didn't want to smell
Speaker 2: of food around camp. They took what food they had
Speaker 2: brought with them back up into the trees and tied
Speaker 2: it up. If any bears came around. The bears weren't
Speaker 2: coming around them, they would go and try to get
Speaker 2: the food out of the tree type thing. Marty said,
Speaker 2: he was very self aware when it came to what
Speaker 2: he's leaving and everything of this nature. They thought camp
Speaker 2: was safe, and when they got out of the creek,
Speaker 2: they just didn't leave the canoe down in there. They
Speaker 2: unloaded everything, all the firewood, all the excess stuff they brought,
Speaker 2: and then they turned the canoe over in case the
Speaker 2: winds picked up. Their canoe didn't end up blowing the
Speaker 2: way and thundering stuff. So he tied it off around
Speaker 2: brush it's twilight. Now they got the fire crackling. They're
Speaker 2: having a conversation. Well off in the distance, he's estimates
Speaker 2: about three hundred yards, they heard this loud whoop, and
Speaker 2: he said, the whoop was so loud, so crisp. It
Speaker 2: was shocking because it was just how powerful it was.
Speaker 1: Whoop.
Speaker 2: So look at each other and what the hell is that?
Speaker 2: And of course, naturally the guns that were laying right
Speaker 2: over here are now a lot closer. The shotgun that
Speaker 2: they had brought. Lewis had turned around and had it
Speaker 2: underneath his sleeping bag and went and dug that out.
Speaker 2: He had still but there was something about the whoop
Speaker 2: that really startled. Of of course, now it's dark, they're
Speaker 2: not going anywhere, so they're just sitting around discussing what
Speaker 2: the hell made that noise? Lewis his friend. It was
Speaker 2: from the Pacific Northwest. He had followed along. It wasn't
Speaker 2: unsolved mysteries. Leonard Nimoy did that special back in the day.
Speaker 2: Or he brought that up and talked about the different
Speaker 2: things he heard there, and he said, I think the
Speaker 2: bigfoot whoops. Marty thought it was a joke. He was like,
Speaker 2: come on, you gotta be kidney though. Okay, I understand
Speaker 2: if there was a bigfoot, this is a perfect place
Speaker 2: for it, but I don't think that's what that was.
Speaker 2: They just discussing it and they leave it at that. Well,
Speaker 2: he said, about forty five minutes pass and they were
Speaker 2: getting tired, and so they just started discussing about crashing
Speaker 2: out and getting the bed rolls laid out because their
Speaker 2: leap out cowboy style, no tent, nothing. As they're unrolling everything,
Speaker 2: they hear the bottom of the canoe was a big,
Speaker 2: heavy duty plastic one. It was marine rated, sixteen foot
Speaker 2: rolle thick plastic. And it heard that plastic, something scraping
Speaker 2: against it, something making noise by it. Approximately maybe not
Speaker 2: quite half the distance from the creek to where they
Speaker 2: were camps, so we're talking twenty yards. It being dark now,
Speaker 2: they couldn't see that distance from the little campfire they had,
Speaker 2: so it was like, huh, all right. He grabs one
Speaker 2: of the flashlights, stands up and turns on the flashlight
Speaker 2: and he's not seeing anything. Starts walking a little closer again.
Speaker 2: This flashlight was good, but at twenty yards you're losing
Speaker 2: the candela power at that distance, so he starts chopping
Speaker 2: on over. His rifle was left leaning back over by
Speaker 2: where he was sitting. He's basically unarmed. He walks back
Speaker 2: about maybe ten paces to get a better look at
Speaker 2: the canoe, and he noticed they had left it laying flat,
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden it was tipped up
Speaker 2: and it was the damnedest thing. So he calls Lewis,
Speaker 2: tells him grab the other flashlight and bring a gun.
Speaker 2: So Lewis grabs a shotgun and another flashlight and comes
Speaker 2: up beside him, and they're bolts beaming over there and
Speaker 2: noticing the canoe is lifting up and going down, and
Speaker 2: they're not seeing what's causing it right because where it
Speaker 2: was tied off by the brush, the brush was obscuring
Speaker 2: their vision of what they could see. So they said,
Speaker 2: let's go see what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 2: Did I lay it across something? And now it teetering
Speaker 2: And then he was thinking, no, there was nothing there.
Speaker 2: It was a tundra. So they start walking towards it.
Speaker 2: As they get closer, all of a sudden they drop, dunk,
Speaker 2: drop to the ground. Then they see eye shine and
Speaker 2: immediately they stop and this thing stands up. He said
Speaker 2: it stood up, it screamed at them, and they thought
Speaker 2: it ran off. They heard bump, dump dump, So immediately
Speaker 2: they look at each other and start back and wait,
Speaker 2: and we're like, holy shit, maybe we should drag that
Speaker 2: canoe closer. What the hell? Because again the candela power
Speaker 2: of the flashlights up close, it was nice and bright,
Speaker 2: but at that distance they didn't get the full view
Speaker 2: of this thing other than eye shine, something like arge
Speaker 2: and dark. And it ran off right and stay tuned
Speaker 2: for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: after these messages, and he goes it didn't dawn on
Speaker 2: them at first that it was bipedal when it ran away.
Speaker 2: He said it because they were just in shock of
Speaker 2: all of a sudden something's happening in those moments of
Speaker 2: what the hell's going on. So as they're discussing dragging
Speaker 2: that canoe closer to the camp, they hear the thump
Speaker 2: in the ground again. This thing runs between about half
Speaker 2: the distance between the canoe and where they are. It
Speaker 2: runs by and is looking at them as it runs by,
Speaker 2: not watching where it's running, just runs by looking at them.
Speaker 2: So now they're really in shock. He said. The face
Speaker 2: was like really dark tan leather. It was so fast,
Speaker 2: but it was humanoid in shape, said The head looked
Speaker 2: real low on the shoulders. What they could make out
Speaker 2: it had grizzly blicking hair, brown black and low patches
Speaker 2: of white. Again, this is all from a flash of
Speaker 2: this thing running by, and so of course naturally they
Speaker 2: trail after it with the flashlights and it just disappears
Speaker 2: into the darkness. So now they're really spooped because all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know what they couldn't make out,
Speaker 2: just ran in front of them, looking at him, and
Speaker 2: he said, it was weird the way it was running.
Speaker 2: It looked so awkward, but it was so fluid because
Speaker 2: it was like just the upper body twisted on the hips.
Speaker 2: The hips were still running just perfectly right, like the
Speaker 2: lakes were still running perfect but this thing shifted from
Speaker 2: the hips towards them. He said, it looked very awkward,
Speaker 2: but it was such a fluid motion. It was just like,
Speaker 2: what the hell. So after that happened, they'd get back
Speaker 2: to camp. He grabs this three thirty eight rifle. Now
Speaker 2: they're discussing, maybe we should not be here, maybe we
Speaker 2: should go back to the plane, idle out into the
Speaker 2: middle of that lake and drop an anchor or something
Speaker 2: out there and just sit out in the middle of
Speaker 2: the lake. So they decided they want to do that.
Speaker 2: They no longer want to be where they're at, so
Speaker 2: they decide, okay, what we'll do is we'll leave non
Speaker 2: important stuff here and retrieve it in the morning during daylight,
Speaker 2: where we feel safer. So what they do is they
Speaker 2: gather up the guns, of course, and they lead the
Speaker 2: food hanging in the tree, They lead the excess firewood there.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to go down to the creek to
Speaker 2: get water to extinguish the fire, so what they decided
Speaker 2: to do is roll the rocks they had found to
Speaker 2: make this little fire pit closer and stomp it down
Speaker 2: as best they could. They tried to pull up moss,
Speaker 2: and it was real pain finding dirt to cover it,
Speaker 2: but they did what they could to smolder this fire
Speaker 2: as best as they could, and then they marched back
Speaker 2: over to the canoe. He said. When they got back
Speaker 2: over by the canoe, they had been beaming the light
Speaker 2: around the whole time. Make no mistake, they were on
Speaker 2: point looking all around as they were about twenty five
Speaker 2: feet from the canoe, roughly give or take all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the front of the canoe lifted up again.
Speaker 2: It dropped back down, and they had stopped when they
Speaker 2: saw it lift up. They're looking over there, real, real hard,
Speaker 2: and they said, this thing looked over and peeked up
Speaker 2: and took off running away. And they heard a splash
Speaker 2: in the creek and then rustling of the brush on
Speaker 2: the opposite side, like it was just steady moving away.
Speaker 2: So they took that as all right, let's get going.
Speaker 2: So they get over there. They untied off from the brush,
Speaker 2: they drag it over the creek. He dug out one
Speaker 2: of his headlamps and put it on. Basically was holding
Speaker 2: his rifle and one flashlight ready to turn on in
Speaker 2: his lap, and he was just using one oar with
Speaker 2: one hand, which is really hard to do. They were spooked,
Speaker 2: to say the least, so he had Lewis do the
Speaker 2: paddling for them going up, and they would take turns
Speaker 2: right again. You gotta understand they're back in there a
Speaker 2: little way, so it's not an easy undertaking. Grant you,
Speaker 2: it's not some heavy flowing river that they're fighting gets,
Speaker 2: but they're still a current. So Lewis starts off. Marty
Speaker 2: is looking around keeping an eye on things, and they
Speaker 2: keep hearing noises off in the distance. He couldn't tell
Speaker 2: the distance because they would sound close and then needed
Speaker 2: to hear something further away. So they were real confused
Speaker 2: on exactly how close things were, and they weren't seeing anything.
Speaker 2: So it was at the point where he took over
Speaker 2: for Louis doing the paddling, and Lewis had the flashlight
Speaker 2: and the shotgun and was looking around and hushed tones
Speaker 2: just to be quiet so they could hear what's going
Speaker 2: on around him. They're at this particular part where there
Speaker 2: was a pretty tight little curve in this creek. As
Speaker 2: they were there coming up to it, Lewis was going
Speaker 2: back and forth with the light and then heard something
Speaker 2: and raised it up. Now, when they're in the creek,
Speaker 2: the bank is higher than their heads, just by enough
Speaker 2: to where their views obscured big time. So you heard
Speaker 2: this huff and then raises the light up, and this
Speaker 2: thing was standing like on this little peninsula that kind
Speaker 2: of stuck out because of the shape of the creek.
Speaker 2: He said. When they saw it stand up, it was
Speaker 2: probably fifteen feet in front of them. When it stood up,
Speaker 2: he said it had to have been at least ten
Speaker 2: foot tall. When it stood up, it glared at him,
Speaker 2: put its hand up. They saw a big ass hand,
Speaker 2: like our hands, but he said the thumb was stepped
Speaker 2: back more when it held up its hand and then
Speaker 2: took off, running off into the darkness again, and it
Speaker 2: went from directly in front of him off to his right.
Speaker 2: Said it was gone in a heartbeat once it ran off,
Speaker 2: and there, of course, lights are trailing it because they're
Speaker 2: trying to keep an eye on this thing. They hear
Speaker 2: a huff from off to their left, and he said
Speaker 2: the huff they heard off to the left had to
Speaker 2: have been at least thirty yards away, so the attention
Speaker 2: goes that direction real quick. And then finally Marty said,
Speaker 2: let's just paddle together. Let's do it now. All the
Speaker 2: way back to the plane, they were both just digging
Speaker 2: in their lives dependent on it. Even though he said
Speaker 2: himself freely, it felt like they were curious of what
Speaker 2: the hell is going on over here, he said. When
Speaker 2: it ran by and looked at them, didn't come off
Speaker 2: as aggressive because it could easily wiped them out running by.
Speaker 2: He said, it came across as more of a curiosity.
Speaker 2: What am I looking at?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: This thing had a look of bewilderment on his face
Speaker 2: as it ran by, and then when it stood up
Speaker 2: and looked at him, it looked more annoyed versus the
Speaker 2: piece of crap looked to his face, and so he
Speaker 2: assumed that they were just curious. So anyway, they make
Speaker 2: it up to the plane, they are both wiped out
Speaker 2: because they were just paddling with all their worth. They
Speaker 2: totally winded themselves. They're sitting there panting. They tied off
Speaker 2: the canoe to one of the struts of the pontoons
Speaker 2: on the plane. They both crawl in there. When they
Speaker 2: crawl into the plane, Marty said he sat there and decided,
Speaker 2: I'm going to start the plane. Even though it's too
Speaker 2: dark to fly, I'm going to start the plane and
Speaker 2: just let it run for a little while, because again
Speaker 2: they planned on warming it up anyway and going out
Speaker 2: to the middle and dropping an anchor and staying off ashore.
Speaker 2: So he said, as it was warming up, he turned
Speaker 2: on his wing lights that he had pretty good in
Speaker 2: front of them, and so he was like, man, with
Speaker 2: these wing lights, as long as the clouds aren't too bad,
Speaker 2: we could fly out of here. He was contemplating flying out.
Speaker 2: So after contemplating a little bit, he's looking around. He's
Speaker 2: trying to see up into the sky and he can't.
Speaker 2: His big thing was he didn't want to crash. Were
Speaker 2: shaped than what they're dealing with. So they went with
Speaker 2: their original plan and once it was warmed up, they
Speaker 2: untied from where they were tied off to. He basically
Speaker 2: taxied out to the middle and they used their anchor
Speaker 2: line that they had brought for the canoe or tie
Speaker 2: off line, just basically anchored out in the middle of
Speaker 2: the small lake. He said that once daylight came, because
Speaker 2: they didn't sleep, Lewis slept for a little bit, and
Speaker 2: Marty said he probably dozed off himself for a short
Speaker 2: period of time, but he was so amped up it
Speaker 2: was hard to not relive everything that just happened. And
Speaker 2: Marty said that once it got light enough for them
Speaker 2: to see where they were initially tied off to. Often
Speaker 2: the distance he could see the movement where they had
Speaker 2: been tied off, and so he was like, oh man,
Speaker 2: they're still over there, and he's thinking, gosh, we need
Speaker 2: to get our stuff. What else do we have over there?
Speaker 2: We have food there's excess firewood, a couple sleeping bags, right,
Speaker 2: So he contemplates it for a little bit, and he says,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm going to fire up the engine again.
Speaker 2: Idle over there and see make sure my eyes aren't
Speaker 2: playing tricks on me in the low light of seeing movement. Right,
Speaker 2: So they idle over there. After it warms up. As
Speaker 2: they're getting closer, he noticed it the wind was blowing
Speaker 2: and what he thought was this thing on the beach
Speaker 2: moving was just the wind blowing some brush back and forth.
Speaker 2: So he felt better. They parked the plane. It was
Speaker 2: getting on into full daylight. Now they tied off. They
Speaker 2: jumped in the canoe, just power stroke back to where
Speaker 2: they were ran up. The food was gone, the rope
Speaker 2: was missing that they had to tie off to in
Speaker 2: a little cooler. All that was just gone, one of
Speaker 2: the sleeping bags gone, the one that was left. Double
Speaker 2: checked the fire to make sure it was out. It
Speaker 2: was cold. They left the excess firewood there, went back
Speaker 2: to the plane and took off out of there. He said.
Speaker 2: Once they lifted off, he had circled around and used
Speaker 2: up almost a quarter tank of gas just flying low,
Speaker 2: flying right over the trees, trying to look for any
Speaker 2: other sign of this thing, just because of his own
Speaker 2: curiosity about what they had dealt with the night before.
Speaker 2: He didn't find anything, so they ended up flying out
Speaker 2: of there. He said. He flew over dilling Ham, got
Speaker 2: fueled there and then they ended up going on about
Speaker 2: their way. I want to thank Marty for sharing his experience.
Speaker 2: He said that he thought he was going to take
Speaker 2: that story to the grave of what they dealt with,
Speaker 2: because the few times he had tried to share with people,
Speaker 2: he was shut down immediately and they started mocking. I'm like,
Speaker 2: we shouldn't drink and fly. That's dangerous. I want to
Speaker 2: thank him for reaching out and sharing. Thank y'all for
Speaker 2: joining me, and we'll catch you on the next one.
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