Speaker 1: Sexty Hello the news, right.
Speaker 2: Or the song song?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 2: What's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Brandon? Let's give you your supplies? So what's what's that?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: I know you got thoughts on things, of course always recently,
Speaker 2: the thing that's been that's been at the top of
Speaker 2: mind for me is there's been a lot of like suppression,
Speaker 2: especially on these like apps that people tend to cling
Speaker 2: to for this sort of information, and that's been a
Speaker 2: bit difficult to navigate in terms of like how is
Speaker 2: the best way to still present the people with the
Speaker 2: knowledge and the information that they need when the means
Speaker 2: that we usually use to you know, divvy out the
Speaker 2: information is being suppressed. So that's been at the top
Speaker 2: of mine recently, and.
Speaker 1: So how how have you been experiencing that?
Speaker 2: For myself, just a very apparent like drop in terms
Speaker 2: of my views recently. But with that being said, I've
Speaker 2: kind of like built community in other ways, like I
Speaker 2: have mutuals that are kind of tapped into the network,
Speaker 2: and through them I've been able to still contribute to
Speaker 2: I feel like fruitful conversation and it's just pivoting as
Speaker 2: it comes.
Speaker 1: What do you think the suppression is attributed to.
Speaker 2: I think the most glaring thing, especially with TikTok, as
Speaker 2: we look to the top of the year, when it
Speaker 2: was a bit contested as to whether or not the
Speaker 2: app would still be available in the US, and then
Speaker 2: it was kind of bought or some like back behind
Speaker 2: the scenes deals with cut and I think since then
Speaker 2: it's been pretty apparent that probably played a role in
Speaker 2: terms of how the algorithm's going.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, but what is what was that about?
Speaker 2: Oh, that initially I believe was due to their to
Speaker 2: your conversation or to your points earlier around Zionism, to
Speaker 2: their being such like a tangible level of outreach in
Speaker 2: terms of like the conversation around the en campus and
Speaker 2: everything and so on and so forth. That was spearheaded
Speaker 2: by TikTok. And I think that's when people were saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we have to like actually address this because it's having
Speaker 2: like real consequences.
Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to what this jackass has to say
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: Students, smart, well educated young people from our own country,
Speaker 3: from around the world.
Speaker 4: Where were they getting their information.
Speaker 3: They were getting their information from social media, particularly TikTok.
Speaker 3: That is where they were learning about what happened in
Speaker 3: October seventh. What happened in the days, weeks and months
Speaker 3: to follow. That's a serious problem. It's a serious problem
Speaker 3: for democracy, whether it's Israel, the United States, and it's
Speaker 3: a serious problem.
Speaker 1: For our young people.
Speaker 4: And it was Frank Now, yeah, yeah, it really gets
Speaker 4: my goat.
Speaker 1: And they use buzzwords like democracy. How is that a
Speaker 1: problem for a democracy that's literally indicative of a democracy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but of course, and that's glaringly obvious to me.
Speaker 2: You know, goes back to that old saying of you know,
Speaker 2: the system's not broken, it's working for who it's meant
Speaker 2: to for, who's supposed to work for. And I think
Speaker 2: when we look at that, like I got a couple
Speaker 2: of my little degrees behind me now, but it's just
Speaker 2: like be it with TikTok, whatever these platforms are. We
Speaker 2: have like the most educated populist we ever have had,
Speaker 2: so to suggest that these people that are speaking on
Speaker 2: these algorithms and on these platforms have garnered them and
Speaker 2: do not have possess any like you know, quantitative training,
Speaker 2: And that's just that's just not true, that that's hearsay,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: But so I saw a story of a guy in
Speaker 1: Texas who was actually being charged with a felony, and
Speaker 1: like there's like time possibly attached to him creating a zine.
Speaker 2: You know what a zene is, Yes, I am familiar.
Speaker 1: Yes, So for those who don't know, zines are essentially
Speaker 1: independent and they're like pamphlets, but that are propaganda, but
Speaker 1: it's propaganda that is anti fascist propaganda. They are typically
Speaker 1: politically based and have messaging that is passed through networks
Speaker 1: in an organic way. And so this man, because in
Speaker 1: the First Amendment we're allowed to do that, they essentially
Speaker 1: are charging him because someone was transporting his zines and
Speaker 1: got arrested at a protest, and they attached that they
Speaker 1: were transporting the zines to the arrest in some form
Speaker 1: or fashion. And so that's already an attempt to crack
Speaker 1: down on the spaces that people are going to eventually
Speaker 1: go back to once these spaces are no longer available.
Speaker 1: And I would also add that when you came on
Speaker 1: last time and you were talking about Meta, I mean no,
Speaker 1: you were talking about Musk and what they're building in Memphis.
Speaker 1: All of that ends up connecting because that is attached
Speaker 1: to AI, and AI is now going to render these apps.
Speaker 1: I mean it's maybe a bit alarmist, but you're not
Speaker 1: going to be able.
Speaker 4: To know what's real or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I don't think that hyperbolic in
Speaker 2: any sense or any capacity. You know, that's very real,
Speaker 2: And especially me being in the classroom now and having
Speaker 2: had time with my students and seeing the way in
Speaker 2: which they rely on artificial intelligence, because it is something
Speaker 2: that they're like, that's a part of their foundational understanding
Speaker 2: of just society at large. And I know, without a
Speaker 2: shadow of a doubt they will not be able to
Speaker 2: tell three to five years what is real or what
Speaker 2: is and what's credible, especially like I'm ready to be
Speaker 2: in the classroom now. We're talking about like, oh, where'd
Speaker 2: you get the information from? Cause now you look something
Speaker 2: up on Google, the first thing that comes up is
Speaker 2: the AI overview, and people just take that to be gospel,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, what's the source. You know, let's check,
Speaker 2: let's see what their credentials are, because there are people
Speaker 2: behind these algorithms that have their own vested interests. And
Speaker 2: it's those lines that you're talking about, and the fact
Speaker 2: that they're like accrediting whoever it was in Texas to
Speaker 2: the equivalent like carrying contraband, Yes, what the accreditation was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I mean it goes back to them. That's why
Speaker 2: I think it's understated, like how much we fought for
Speaker 2: education to get it to where to where it is.
Speaker 2: How how much of a criminal acted was, especially on
Speaker 2: the plantations, to find a slave that was reading, that
Speaker 2: was able to you know, discern these things that are
Speaker 2: going on. I think that's something that we've lost. We
Speaker 2: now have gotten to special. It's like if you have money,
Speaker 2: or if you have some like notoriety, these are the
Speaker 2: things that we desire and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: And in that we've kind of like lost our fervor
Speaker 2: for education and the tool for liberation that it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching Venezuela right now doing what it
Speaker 1: seems like the best they can to try to basically
Speaker 1: arm themselves for whatever's coming. Right We're seeing that there
Speaker 1: is an actual imminent strike, that a ground invasion or
Speaker 1: from the sky, et cetera is impending. And even though
Speaker 1: there seems to be, of course no real plan that
Speaker 1: we are able to see from Venezuela side on how
Speaker 1: are going to fight this in like a real challenging
Speaker 1: way they're still like, but we still don't fight.
Speaker 2: Though, absolutely absolutely right though.
Speaker 1: So you know, now there is this story that's come
Speaker 1: out about heg Seth, and I don't know if you
Speaker 1: all know that there was another boat strike and there
Speaker 1: were survivors who were clinging to wreckage. And the word
Speaker 1: on the street is that Pete Hegseth, the head of
Speaker 1: the war Crimes Unit, no, the head of the war
Speaker 1: unit the Department of War, gave a verbal order to
Speaker 1: quote unquote kill them all, which is considered a war crime.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's not a considered a war
Speaker 1: crime that you shot the boat in the first place. However,
Speaker 1: it then became well, this could actually be a war crime,
Speaker 1: and there's not going to be any way to get
Speaker 1: around this, and so you know, we may have to
Speaker 1: impeach Hegseeth. And so you know, my question to you becomes,
Speaker 1: when you're seeing these types of things, what does your
Speaker 1: where does criminality? That's not the question I have for you.
Speaker 1: What are you talking when you see that?
Speaker 2: I think for me, and I've been sitting with this
Speaker 2: for a while, it is like people's disillusion to the establishment,
Speaker 2: to the rule of loss on and so forth, because
Speaker 2: these things don't have any teeth, these like consequences that
Speaker 2: people say, oh, this could happen. You know, things have
Speaker 2: been found to be crimes against humanity since I don't
Speaker 2: know there were things to count them. Yeah, we have
Speaker 2: the systems to do it, but it's really a matter
Speaker 2: of you and what army and when we have pete
Speaker 2: he said, in the protected position, and.
Speaker 1: We do not have a.
Speaker 2: Mean, like any means of actually enforcing that, say decision
Speaker 2: came down. Who's to say they can't just say, oh,
Speaker 2: well no and just move the gold post again. And
Speaker 2: I think to that point, you really do have to
Speaker 2: get a bit more creative, like with what Venezuela is describing.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why so much of the history
Speaker 2: of like Haiti and the history of a Cuba, and
Speaker 2: the history of these places that have fought successfully Vietnam,
Speaker 2: that have fought successfully against imperialism with none of the
Speaker 2: technology and so on and so forth. That's why that
Speaker 2: history has been so hidden, because there is a way
Speaker 2: and it's real, it's not fantastical. So when I hear
Speaker 2: the criminality of it all, I mean they're all criminals,
Speaker 2: you know. The presidents of fell and so on and
Speaker 2: so forth. It's not lost on me. And that's why
Speaker 2: with all the talk around the Epstein files, it really
Speaker 2: doesn't move me very much, not for the severity of
Speaker 2: the issue, because it's incredibly serious, but they're criminal enough,
Speaker 2: you know, it won't be a new thing that comes
Speaker 2: up that's like, oh, this is the reason that everybody's
Speaker 2: gonna say, oh, we can't, we can't tolerate this anymore.
Speaker 2: So I think that's what comes up for me is like,
Speaker 2: how do we actually move to a space of holding
Speaker 2: these people accountable? And what does that look like in
Speaker 2: a twenty first century where you know they have access
Speaker 2: to nuclear arms and you know, storming the Capitol isn't
Speaker 2: a viable option.
Speaker 1: Would you venture to say that all presidents of the
Speaker 1: United States are criminals.
Speaker 2: At least war criminals by the stressity and like the
Speaker 2: things that they were doing in their foreign policy, which
Speaker 2: everybody kind of just like throws in that hidden box
Speaker 2: that nobody talks about with any sitting US president. But yeah,
Speaker 2: one thousand, I don't think we've had one that has
Speaker 2: reached that position without having had to partake or at
Speaker 2: least look away from something that was absolutely a crime.
Speaker 2: And if you're an accomplished then I hold you accounta
Speaker 2: below the sign.
Speaker 1: Do you include Obama in that.
Speaker 2: One thousand percent? And this is something that you know,
Speaker 2: it gets me on the hot seat when I talk
Speaker 2: to people a lot of times because what he did,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think and the data may be skewed
Speaker 2: now with everything with ice, but for the time being,
Speaker 2: he deported the most people in US history, like during
Speaker 2: his presidency. They don't know that, like the kids in
Speaker 2: Cagous things started under Obama, you know, and we all
Speaker 2: attribute that to Trump because you know it fits the
Speaker 2: image more. And he did it in such an egregious
Speaker 2: and nasty way. But Obama did it in a way
Speaker 2: that Malcolm said the Democrats would you know that they'll
Speaker 2: smile on your face and you know, stab you in
Speaker 2: the back. And to me, I can look at him
Speaker 2: a nuance of a person that appreciate what he was
Speaker 2: and what he meant to black people and to black
Speaker 2: he means.
Speaker 1: To black people because this and I just want to
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with it? Does everything has
Speaker 1: everything to do with anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because this is.
Speaker 1: What's been concerning me about what limits our ability to
Speaker 1: be able to even identify that there's a fight to
Speaker 1: be fought his because what always ends up happening is
Speaker 1: we turn to what he means for black people. Oh yeah, however,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but what he quote unquote means for
Speaker 1: black people is also made you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a fantasy, his Obama at this point
Speaker 2: in a real way, it's black Jesus, Like, it's not
Speaker 2: even in the sense of like regardless as to whether
Speaker 2: or not this was a real person who did these
Speaker 2: things that people ascribe to him the story. And I
Speaker 2: visually remember at that time, I know my grandmother like,
Speaker 2: you know, Lord rest her soul, but she cried, you know,
Speaker 2: at the thought that like a black man like is
Speaker 2: the president of this country? You know, and just conceptually
Speaker 2: from a people that were enslaved to see that, mind you,
Speaker 2: he is, I understand. And I hate I hate to
Speaker 2: pull the puppet the rail back. Yeah, I hate to
Speaker 2: tell him somebody pulling the strings. But let's just have it.
Speaker 2: Let's just talk about it for a second. Well we'll
Speaker 2: see it in that in that light. But yeah, in
Speaker 2: terms of what you're asking with what he means to
Speaker 2: black people, I think most people don't want to know
Speaker 2: that he's not a descendant of chattel slavery. You know,
Speaker 2: most people don't want to hear that that's not a
Speaker 2: some of that you're gonna be applauded for at the
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving table.
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: That's real, that's real. That's real. And I think like
Speaker 2: in order to move that demographic, the demographic that I'm
Speaker 2: referring to being those that say, oh Obama was this,
Speaker 2: you know, amazing, so on and so forth, we should
Speaker 2: all aspire to be the Obama's and in our country,
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. I think I can see
Speaker 2: that the images. I guess, Okay, if you don't look
Speaker 2: too hard, if you squint and spend around three times,
Speaker 2: and do it from a thousand and nine view, the
Speaker 2: black man is the president. But if we're engaging with
Speaker 2: it critically, if we're trying to get somewhere that's true liberation,
Speaker 2: that can't be where it stops, you know.
Speaker 1: The president of trash like, it's like what you're the
Speaker 1: president of is what matters? Right Like Adrian is in
Speaker 1: here in our chat saying that she likes seeing Iris
Speaker 1: Alba as president in House of Dynamite. He was also
Speaker 1: a warmongering regular present, So then we have to ask
Speaker 1: ourselves with them, why did you like seeing him as
Speaker 1: President Holstinama. Let me tell you the show Ozark has
Speaker 1: nane black people in it except one lady who's a fed.
Speaker 1: But everybody else who is actually doing all of the dirt,
Speaker 1: not one black person. And people say to me, why
Speaker 1: you don't why you like that show Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: Ain't no black people in Game of Thrones. They're like,
Speaker 1: why you like Gaming Thrones? Ain't no black people in there?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because I don't even want black people
Speaker 1: in that world. I'm fine with their not being black
Speaker 1: people in this mess of a world, right, And so
Speaker 1: when I see black people in the government, you know,
Speaker 1: we're seeing Stacey Plasquet hemmed up with Epstein. She is
Speaker 1: the US Vision Islands representative, and you memmed up with Epstein.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's not valuable to be put in
Speaker 1: positions of power over terror, oh yeah, not ending the terror.
Speaker 2: And I think to me at that point, that's where
Speaker 2: Africa serves as such a good like reminder oftentimes that
Speaker 2: black people get me there, get me there. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't look at things from a
Speaker 2: pan African view, you know, if you look at it
Speaker 2: and strictly a US context, and this is the first
Speaker 2: time we've seen a nigga get in this position and
Speaker 2: while out you know what I'm saying, and do something crazy.
Speaker 2: But when you when you recognize that you are not
Speaker 2: and lord, I'm divged into a different territory. Let me realize,
Speaker 2: you see, I sat that, But I was just gonna say,
Speaker 2: this is where a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 2: black people specifically, when they are growing their consciousness. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's very easy for them to trail off
Speaker 2: into these friends groups, be it Hebrew, Israelized, bere It, foundational,
Speaker 2: Black Americans, whatever the case may be. And in those
Speaker 2: spaces you lose sight of well when you recognize that
Speaker 2: you are a descendant of Chattle slavery often signs from
Speaker 2: western Central Africa, and you look to these countries and
Speaker 2: see that we're from the most diverse continent you know,
Speaker 2: on the globe. So it makes all the sense in
Speaker 2: the world that we have such variation in our taste,
Speaker 2: in our expressions, on and so forth. And it's why
Speaker 2: for me, I don't feel the like the push or
Speaker 2: the I no longer feel like why can't we all
Speaker 2: see things the same way? Like we all black white
Speaker 2: people say that I haven't liked this Nigga people for
Speaker 2: eight hundred years before before I spoke this language. I
Speaker 2: didn't like what they was on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I think now when I'm bringing that back to
Speaker 2: like Uni from an African perspective and seeing the amount
Speaker 2: of corruption that they have in these completely black places,
Speaker 2: and you don't even have to go to Africa. You
Speaker 2: look to Atlanta, but whatever the case may be, and
Speaker 2: you see that oh, like like the lady said, I
Speaker 2: believe it. It was at Clark's graduation. You know, black
Speaker 2: faces and high high face high spaces won't save us.
Speaker 2: Its not. It's not a new phenomenon. That's been the
Speaker 2: case for centuries. So for me, now I don't have
Speaker 2: to Obama as the sole proprietor of prosperity. I can
Speaker 2: look to people and say, oh, we had people before
Speaker 2: now that showed there was corruption in these spaces. That's
Speaker 2: not enough. It's not enough for you to just have
Speaker 2: more melanine than the average Caucasian. It's not enough. That
Speaker 2: doesn't give me anything.
Speaker 1: I've been really trying to on this book tour for
Speaker 1: my book, what would the ancestors say? I've been really
Speaker 1: trying to expound upon the themes that I talk about
Speaker 1: in the book, like psyops, like black excellence as a
Speaker 1: false you know, directive of progress, talking about really just
Speaker 1: the concept of what it means to be black and
Speaker 1: American right and is that something to take pride in
Speaker 1: or is that something that we need to do more
Speaker 1: work to to redefine for ourselves. And last night someone
Speaker 1: asked me, well, what are like the ways in which
Speaker 1: we can get the world to care about Black America
Speaker 1: and like what we're going through? And you know, my
Speaker 1: answer was like, well, no, no, no, that was the question.
Speaker 1: The question, The question I wanted to bring up was
Speaker 1: someone asked me, how do you get black people to
Speaker 1: essentially like wake up to the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: That was the first question, Yeah, and care about the
Speaker 1: rest of the world. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: and I really have been putting a lot of energy
Speaker 1: into this is that we are at this point. We've
Speaker 1: we have seen blackness become simply a very shallow layer
Speaker 1: and a veneer that we are like trying to exist in.
Speaker 1: It's like really thin that has no depth that is
Speaker 1: literally just identity politics, and it becomes a weapon that
Speaker 1: is weaponized against us, so we literally become the weapon
Speaker 1: that is killing us. Right, And in that I'm trying
Speaker 1: to disassociate people from black maness in that form and
Speaker 1: connected to blackness as a form of indigenity that has
Speaker 1: connectivity to the world. Right, that's connectivity to all indigenous
Speaker 1: indigenous folks that are anti colonialism. And in that regard,
Speaker 1: it's trying to also then attach those folks to us
Speaker 1: and back and and I don't I don't have words.
Speaker 1: I don't have words. Okay, okay, okay, okay okay, and
Speaker 1: and so forth, right and so forth henceforth, there really
Speaker 1: is a necessity of political education that has to be
Speaker 1: more I feel advanced, like you were saying, in terms
Speaker 1: of identifying ways in which in this current climate we fight. Right,
Speaker 1: So you are teaching the kids, what are the limitations
Speaker 1: of your classroom to be able to infuse the type
Speaker 1: of learning that you feel that they would need to
Speaker 1: actually be able to be armed when we have an
Speaker 1: education department that has now been displaced into labor and
Speaker 1: is actively saying we're all about just getting kids ready
Speaker 1: to go to the workforce.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I smile when you ask that question
Speaker 2: because it's something that I wrestle with a lot. Especially.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful of the school that I'm at. It's a
Speaker 2: charter school, and in that I do, I have a
Speaker 2: bit more flexibility than the average K through twelve public
Speaker 2: school educator. And in that each day we actually watch
Speaker 2: the news, which is something I think is incredible because
Speaker 2: each day we have real conversations about things that are
Speaker 2: going on. I don't working. I teach a lord. I
Speaker 2: teach the sixth and seventh grade so oh no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I teach sixth and seventh grade science. And in that
Speaker 2: those science I do. I teach sixth and seventh grade science.
Speaker 1: Yes, So you were talking about boiling point.
Speaker 2: So that's more what at least in my school, that's
Speaker 2: more for eighth grade, that's physical science or chemistry. So
Speaker 2: for me, we I teach a wool Earth and space science.
Speaker 2: So we're talking moon phases, so we're talking like.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, yes, dioramas.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, making sun dials outside, you know, all the
Speaker 2: things proving that the Earth is not flat. But it's
Speaker 2: so important, it's so important. The success. Yeah, I promise
Speaker 2: it's not flat, but in that we watch the news
Speaker 2: each day and we've had some really transformative conversations that
Speaker 2: I in no way attempt to like infuse my own views,
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, but just spark curiosity and
Speaker 2: simply ask. We did a project recently where I asked
Speaker 2: them to cite their sources. You have to cite your sources.
Speaker 2: Whatever information you give me, it is a zero. I
Speaker 2: will give you a zero if you do not cite
Speaker 2: your source. Because they love to just look stuff up. Look,
Speaker 2: I look up the same thing. I'm like, I know
Speaker 2: where you got this I problem. I can pull up
Speaker 2: the same words verbatim. But in that I would say
Speaker 2: the biggest limitation is just the structure of school, in
Speaker 2: that you do have a finite amount of time, and
Speaker 2: it's structured in the sense that I can't really give
Speaker 2: them the space to, uh, let's take a break, like
Speaker 2: let's all just talk thirty minutes, let's chill, let's sit
Speaker 2: on a couch. Have you eaten today? Half of my
Speaker 2: kids you have, there's so many of my kids that
Speaker 2: don't eat throughout the day. They snack, they're eating hot
Speaker 2: fries from the store, they're eating can right. No I'm
Speaker 2: in I'm in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Oh you are where are you?
Speaker 2: I'm in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yes, y'all you know I'm in Atlanta next Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be out here. I'll be out here. But
Speaker 2: in that, you know, I also teach in the like
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get too much information way by. I
Speaker 2: teach like in the more improverish community. And in that
Speaker 2: a lot of my kids don't have proper they haven't
Speaker 2: bathed in a little bit of time. So you're getting
Speaker 2: all these things. And it's like, I'm trying to tell
Speaker 2: you about all these things going on. My boy need
Speaker 2: to eat. My boy needs to eat. He can't, he
Speaker 2: can't have a conversation. And that's why for me, my
Speaker 2: lessons are a bit different. I really won't penalize you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the space. My baby they she
Speaker 2: ain't paying attention because she's been taking care of her
Speaker 2: baby sister at twelve years old, and she's being abused
Speaker 2: in the home and all these things. And in that
Speaker 2: I have to be as an educator. I have to
Speaker 2: sit there and say, my party right now is to
Speaker 2: be a guardian for you, is to let you know, hey,
Speaker 2: come tell me what's going on. Put your head down,
Speaker 2: we'll fill out some paperwork. Don't worry about this lesson,
Speaker 2: you know. But I say that's the biggest barrier for
Speaker 2: my kids because they care, but they don't have what
Speaker 2: they need met in order for them to care, like
Speaker 2: enough to be engaged with these things. They're not eating,
Speaker 2: they don't have proper hygiene because they aren't being taught. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not being They're being neglected in different ways. And
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even I'm not even attributing this to the parents,
Speaker 2: but just socially, they have been all put in a
Speaker 2: position where they can't be cared for, and that puts
Speaker 2: us in a niche spotter's educators in terms of like
Speaker 2: growing them content wise.
Speaker 1: I see people in the comments talking about homeschool and
Speaker 1: I need y'all to understand that that is a privilege.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why y'all don't see that. Maybe
Speaker 1: you do see that, but I'm going to reiterate it.
Speaker 1: Homeschool is a privilege. Like there was no version of
Speaker 1: life where my mother was going to be able to
Speaker 1: homeschool me. She literally had to go to work, and
Speaker 1: in addition to that, she was not an educator. Right,
Speaker 1: So this idea that everybody has the ability to be
Speaker 1: an educator is really also disrespectful to educators because everybody
Speaker 1: does not have the ability to educate. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it a buck with some of y'all. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: be homeschooling football actually do not have the skill set
Speaker 1: to homeschool your kids.
Speaker 2: Send them kids out, send them kids.
Speaker 1: You're really teaching from a place of ego. And that
Speaker 1: is one of the things that I noticed what you said,
Speaker 1: was that you will have conversations with the kids where
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily you know, putting your mindset into the space.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that is really hard for
Speaker 1: any parent to do and for most adults to do, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna.
Speaker 5: Lie to you.
Speaker 1: We had a little twenty one year old come up
Speaker 1: to us last night when I was done doing my talk,
Speaker 1: and it was me and Brianna Joy Gray and Olivia Odinucci,
Speaker 1: who is she's an organizer, and there was another friend
Speaker 1: of them there and so this little twenty one year
Speaker 1: old from Heart from Howard came up and she was like,
Speaker 1: what's up. You know, I just wanted to say hello,
Speaker 1: you know miss Deals. I was at the talk and
Speaker 1: it was really great to meet you. And I was
Speaker 1: like oh, and she was like, can I go to
Speaker 1: Howard University? I was like, oh, what do you do
Speaker 1: at Howard? And she was like in finance? And we
Speaker 1: were all like.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say nothing. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: say nothing, and I went are you in finance?
Speaker 1: I said, why are you in finance? She said, We're
Speaker 1: the money. So you know, anyone who knows me at
Speaker 1: this point in my life, I've checked out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course naturally I've checked out.
Speaker 1: But anyone who knows Brianna knows she has checked in.
Speaker 2: She's like, really, so ny.
Speaker 1: And so she was like well, she was like, what
Speaker 1: year are you? She said, well, I'm a senior and
Speaker 1: you know, so my next phase is I'm going to
Speaker 1: law school. So Brianna was like, oh okay, because she
Speaker 1: is a lawyer. She was a lawyer, a lawyer. Ye,
Speaker 1: so what are you going to law school for? She
Speaker 1: was like, right now, I'm going for venture capitalists, private equity.
Speaker 2: Yet did she come to the right talk?
Speaker 1: I genuinely I'm like going through my head like did
Speaker 1: you acknowledge any of this? Like did you mention any
Speaker 1: of this, because I was. I was fascinated by it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that she was coming up with curiosity. It was
Speaker 1: more so that she was coming she was flausing it.
Speaker 1: And I just saw someone in the chat say, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the monies. The thing about it is
Speaker 1: that if your whole trajectory is about getting money, there
Speaker 1: is absolutely an issue with that. And I was trying
Speaker 1: my best to not you know, my thoughts on it,
Speaker 1: kept talking, and finally, y'all, my uber came and I
Speaker 1: was like, brother Amir was like, oh, it's arrived. And
Speaker 1: I said, private equity is the devil.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. That's really y'all needs
Speaker 2: to be said.
Speaker 1: And her reasoning was I want to make enough money
Speaker 1: in five years so that I can travel the world.
Speaker 2: Okay, And now I thought she was I thought she
Speaker 2: was gonna bend that corner. I thought she was going
Speaker 2: to come back onto a black capitalist, buy back the
Speaker 2: block type of energy.
Speaker 1: But it was that's eventually where it goes, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, And when people say I'm going to do
Speaker 1: something in five years, I was like, you don't even
Speaker 1: understand because the first time with the first thing, she
Speaker 1: I said. When she said I'm going to go into finance,
Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't know that that's a field
Speaker 1: that's going to be in existence in the way that
Speaker 1: you are in it right now in five years. And
Speaker 1: you know that's that the five years that people think
Speaker 1: for the last five years, that's not the next five years.
Speaker 1: So the whole by the block back even that is like,
Speaker 1: what's the plan. Y'all been buying the block back for
Speaker 1: the last forty years.
Speaker 2: There's not a plan, and a big thing. I try
Speaker 2: to not just tell my I haven't told my kids this,
Speaker 2: but it would be something if I am able to
Speaker 2: teachigh school at some point that I would like engage
Speaker 2: in them with. Is the concept that you will be
Speaker 2: influenced by who you're around. So to suggest that you're
Speaker 2: going to get into this space and you're gonna retain
Speaker 2: every ounce of whatever care you do still possess with
Speaker 2: the finance and the venture capitalism already there, the seed
Speaker 2: is planted. All they need to do is pour a
Speaker 2: little water and just stick you out of the sun
Speaker 2: and you're gonna grow it. Look, it's already it's there.
Speaker 2: So I think in that regard a lot of people
Speaker 2: are I think overconfident in their ability to not be
Speaker 2: like the people that they're around. And it's not like
Speaker 2: an attack. It's not me saying, oh, you're weak. Whatever
Speaker 2: it is. I know consciously, psychologically, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: influenced by the media. I consume, the people I'm around,
Speaker 2: the songs I listen to, and I know, even with
Speaker 2: everything I have, if I'm around venture capitalists all day,
Speaker 2: like and I'm some at some point they're gonna say
Speaker 2: something that makes a little sense to me.
Speaker 1: One of two things happens, right, You either adapt or
Speaker 1: you diminish, Like that's what really happens, you know, that's
Speaker 1: why you realize, like, oh, when you're in certain spaces.
Speaker 1: And I can say wholeheartedly that since I removed myself
Speaker 1: from Hollywood, I exist differently. My brain has expanded exponentially,
Speaker 1: and I can only attribute that to, Oh, I'm also
Speaker 1: not surrounded constantly by all these impediments by the nature
Speaker 1: of the business I'm in that would make me not
Speaker 1: be able to expand right, to expand right, because before
Speaker 1: I can get to thoughts about socialism, right in front
Speaker 1: of me is yeah, but you need to get a deal,
Speaker 1: you know, like before I can get the thoughts about
Speaker 1: independent artistry, it's no, you need to you need to
Speaker 1: be famous, you know, So, like these things are immediate
Speaker 1: priorities of your entire circle. They're going to impede you
Speaker 1: or they're going to infest you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's such a grind to maintain stability, let alone
Speaker 2: to grow in any field. So to think that you're
Speaker 2: going to maintain the time outside of that to like
Speaker 2: offset it to like whatever it is, Like even with
Speaker 2: me teaching now, it's that I'm grappling with, like looking
Speaker 2: at it as a long term profession, do I have
Speaker 2: the time outside of my K through twelve stuff to
Speaker 2: dedicate what I want to dedicate to online activism, to
Speaker 2: real world activism and organizing. Because the school it's a
Speaker 2: full it's a full time job that's twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Well that's its own type of activism, it is, it is, right,
Speaker 1: So like that's its own trajectory of activism. People ask
Speaker 1: me how am I maintaining mentally? How am I managing?
Speaker 1: And it's really because I don't work for nobody no more.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't change the fact that that means I'm
Speaker 1: constantly having to work to sustain myself. But at least
Speaker 1: I get to be in control of my life, so
Speaker 1: to speak, at present right, I do feel though, that
Speaker 1: it's not necessary to be in like when you're talking
Speaker 1: about long term, like as someone who is twenty years
Speaker 1: your senior, there's no need to do things long term.
Speaker 2: Praise God. Say it again. I just I just need
Speaker 2: to hear it.
Speaker 1: There's no need to do things long term. Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: you do it as long as it is purposeful. Life
Speaker 1: is long.
Speaker 2: That's what they don't tell you. It's short, but it's long.
Speaker 1: It's not short. A butterfly lives for three days. Life
Speaker 1: is long.
Speaker 2: That's real. That's real.
Speaker 1: It's all perspective. Yeah, you know, because people will tell you, oh,
Speaker 1: I did this thing because I didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: miss out on it. And then or I didn't do
Speaker 1: this thing because I was afraid, right, and then they're like, dang,
Speaker 1: life is short. And it's like, yeah, but what if
Speaker 1: what if you did it? What if you did a
Speaker 1: thing and you were doing it not with genuine reason,
Speaker 1: just because it was like a stupid thing to do,
Speaker 1: and now you're living with that regret forever. Or if
Speaker 1: you don't do the thing because you were afraid and
Speaker 1: now you've living with that forever. Like it's just teaching,
Speaker 1: is at this point a sacrifice?
Speaker 2: Boy, I tell you, my kids think it's a game.
Speaker 2: I tell you, so you know, I commend you.
Speaker 1: I want to play this video before we go. Have
Speaker 1: you heard of the DIA theory.
Speaker 2: I don't believe I have no.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there is a scientist name James Lovelock. All right,
Speaker 1: So James Lovelock is basically he's an inventor. He's a
Speaker 1: scientist as a biologist. But he was the one who,
Speaker 1: with a couple of other scientists challenged the Darwin theory
Speaker 1: with the DIA theory. So the Darwin theory is, of course,
Speaker 1: you know that we evolved, but it was survival of
Speaker 1: the fitness. So those species that existed and live longer
Speaker 1: do so because natural selection they made it through. Daiga
Speaker 1: theory challenges that and says, no, the Earth is a
Speaker 1: symbiotic ecosystem and those that survive or those that exist,
Speaker 1: are not existing because they were the strongest, but because
Speaker 1: there are other balances happening within the Earth system that
Speaker 1: allow for these things to happen. That it is a symbiotic.
Speaker 1: Symbiotic is really the best word. That's a symbiotic system
Speaker 1: of balance. However, humans are not doing our role in
Speaker 1: the symbiosis.
Speaker 2: Oh this right up my alley. Anthropology is right up
Speaker 2: my alley.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he's like, bring it up, so let's listen
Speaker 1: to this.
Speaker 5: Lovelock's ideas are at the heart of understanding how humanity
Speaker 5: is now changing those stabilizing mechanisms, and they brought him
Speaker 5: to a controversially bleak view of our future.
Speaker 6: From a Guian point of view, when we first started
Speaker 6: interfering with the atmosphere, nothing much happened. It was encompassing
Speaker 6: it by its ordinary regulating mechanisms. When it gets too much,
Speaker 6: can't cope with it.
Speaker 1: DAYA is the Earth? Yes, yes, okay, right, guy is there.
Speaker 6: And this is why I'm afraid. I think it's going
Speaker 6: to play absolute mayhem with our civilization in the next
Speaker 6: ten or one hundred years. And when you see the
Speaker 6: whole picture, it is really fearsomely bad. I mean things
Speaker 6: like the very rapid melting of the floating ice near
Speaker 6: the North Pole. As the floating ice melts so less
Speaker 6: sunlight is reflected back to space by the dazzlingly white ice,
Speaker 6: and more and more sunlights absorbed by the ocean. Just
Speaker 6: the melting of the floating ice in the Arctic Ocean
Speaker 6: will add as much heat to the Earth as all
Speaker 6: of the CO two we put in the atmosphere to date.
Speaker 6: And this is why I'm afraid. I think there's very
Speaker 6: little we can do about it, all of our efforts
Speaker 6: to reduce emissions or as nothing. There's no morality about it.
Speaker 6: If the Earth improves as a result of our presence,
Speaker 6: then we will flourish. If it doesn't, then we will
Speaker 6: die off. I fear that not many of us will survive,
Speaker 6: perhaps at best about a billion, possibly a lot less
Speaker 6: than that. Now, how they will die, It'll be by starvation,
Speaker 6: by war, by disease. Who knows the four horsemen really
Speaker 6: ride when conditions like that happen. Isn't an easy subject,
Speaker 6: is it. And people say to me, well, you can
Speaker 6: say that kind of thing easily because at your age
Speaker 6: it is not going to affect you anyway. You'll be
Speaker 6: dead before it all happens. And that's true. Although I'm
Speaker 6: not so sure that if I live to one hundred,
Speaker 6: I think a lot of things may happen before then.
Speaker 6: But I do have great grandchildren and it's fortuny. The
Speaker 6: name of the is the name of.
Speaker 2: The game here.
Speaker 1: So you have all white men that are like, y'all,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? And I think about the kids
Speaker 1: in your class and what it means to teach science
Speaker 1: in the context of this, and has any has there
Speaker 1: been any application of awareness of climate in your teaching?
Speaker 2: This is perfect, this is right up my aley. Yes.
Speaker 2: So in my Earth and science class, really in both
Speaker 2: we talked about initially we're going over body system, so respiratory, circulatory,
Speaker 2: so on and so forth, and in that respiratory the organs,
Speaker 2: the lungs. So I asked the class, raise your hand
Speaker 2: if you know somebody or you have been around somebody
Speaker 2: that smokes. They all raise their hand, and they when
Speaker 2: I brought up the concept of pollution, some of them
Speaker 2: knew what that word was. And then just explaining that
Speaker 2: a bit more and talking about the AQI, which is
Speaker 2: the air quality index in Atlanta, which notoriously is some
Speaker 2: of the worst in the country. Be it because Atlanta
Speaker 2: is one of the most card dependent cities. At you
Speaker 2: like what happened? Yeah, or you have to be like
Speaker 2: downtown downtown, which nobody lives downtown because it costs three arms,
Speaker 2: three legs to live downtown. And in that regard, we've
Speaker 2: talked about this on several occasions. So what he was
Speaker 2: referring to, uh we in my anthropology degree, we talked
Speaker 2: about like the different eras and epochs, So you have
Speaker 2: like the Pleistocene, the paleot scene. We now live in
Speaker 2: the anthropos scene, which I tell them prefix and suffixes,
Speaker 2: so prefix anthroat anthros humans we talked week. So what
Speaker 2: we're talking about with the anthroprescene is the environment is
Speaker 2: being changed and altered due to our influence, Like the
Speaker 2: anthroposcene is, we are now evolving because of our influence
Speaker 2: on our environment, which is real trippy inception type of stuff,
Speaker 2: but in a real tangible way. What I expressed to
Speaker 2: them is that like, it's not and this is where
Speaker 2: I tie it back in. I don't influence them with
Speaker 2: any of my views, but I'll say it's not by
Speaker 2: coincidence that everybody here just raised their hand to say
Speaker 2: you've been arrested by the smokes before. If I go
Speaker 2: somewhere else in this city, they won't say the same thing.
Speaker 2: You know, and that right there. You could I could
Speaker 2: ask my entire school because of where I'm at, because
Speaker 2: of you know, the type of school that it is,
Speaker 2: and they're all going to raise their hands because they've
Speaker 2: all been in that environment and talking to them about
Speaker 2: secondhand smoke and so on.
Speaker 1: And so I did a campaign with truth Remember the
Speaker 1: Truth Ads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I did campaign.
Speaker 1: With them where we went to different parts of Baltimore
Speaker 1: and we looked at the advertised in different parts of Baltimore.
Speaker 1: And you go in one part of Baltimore, it is
Speaker 1: predominantly higher income, et cetera, and there is not a
Speaker 1: single cigarette advertisement, not a single Dutch Master advertisement anywhere.
Speaker 1: You go to the hood and they're massive, like and
Speaker 1: I mean the Menthols are lining the wall. I mean
Speaker 1: the store is basically for Menthos.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. And i mean I'm from Virginia, so I'm
Speaker 2: from the tobacco capital really of the US, so in
Speaker 2: that everybody talks about Newport's like, you know, I frequent
Speaker 2: the seven five Soport Newport News, Virginia and Virginia absolutely,
Speaker 2: So when we talk about all of these, all these concepts,
Speaker 2: it's really for me just planning the seed of that
Speaker 2: critical thought. I recognize their twelve and thirteen. It's not
Speaker 2: all gonna land right now. You're not dealing with the
Speaker 2: immediate consequences. You're a child, or rather you are, but
Speaker 2: you're not aware of how that's impacting on and all,
Speaker 2: like most of us who has asthma, that that's not
Speaker 2: uncommon in my school, and that's all they know, so
Speaker 2: that's their norm. So to speak of a world where
Speaker 2: that isn't the case to them, it's fantastical. It's like,
Speaker 2: that's just what that's just what it is. Here's now
Speaker 2: they don't feel this disadvantage because everybody hears disadvantage. And
Speaker 2: I think in that way it's sad because also a
Speaker 2: lot of my students haven't left at Lena or have
Speaker 2: never seen another place where the air is different, where
Speaker 2: people here live in a different way, and just hearing that,
Speaker 2: I mean it's something about you know, old white men
Speaker 2: with these like gong level of soundtracks, like y'all come
Speaker 2: on now. I mean, it's bad, but we dragging it
Speaker 2: a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I was thinking that to myself, like
Speaker 1: they really are laying it on thick with these.
Speaker 2: Monks, oh for sure, for sure, And I mean what
Speaker 2: I hate to say about it. I also know this
Speaker 2: is true. I mean, marketing and everything. It's also a
Speaker 2: cash thing. It's like people are more invested when they
Speaker 2: see an old white men hear some Nordy comes in
Speaker 2: the background. Oh he got to know what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: This is some next level shit, you know. But in
Speaker 2: comparison to somebody on TikTok that looks like myself. Oh
Speaker 2: he's just talking, you know, but not here, no there.
Speaker 2: But I bring that up just because like for me
Speaker 2: and I brought this like last time, you asked me,
Speaker 2: like what would the ancestor to say? And my thing was,
Speaker 2: there's nothing new under the sun. And for me now
Speaker 2: I still look at this and say, although this is crazy,
Speaker 2: like this is a very serious issue, and I won't
Speaker 2: act like it's not. We have faced insurmountable things, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know we have I promise, not this one,
Speaker 2: not this one.
Speaker 1: I just say this. We have never faced extinction, and
Speaker 1: Homo sapiens have never faced extinction.
Speaker 2: I'll say that's true. But I'll say as black people,
Speaker 2: specifically African people. I read this book called The Destruction
Speaker 2: of the Black Civilization by Chancellor Williams when he's like
Speaker 2: kind of like, uh dating, everything that took place like
Speaker 2: that lied throughout just kind of Africa's evolution over time,
Speaker 2: and we have been facing like environmental struggle and strife
Speaker 2: for centuries. So the concept of like movement due to
Speaker 2: so on and so forth to these things isn't like
Speaker 2: foreign to us, you know in that way. And yes,
Speaker 2: it hasn't been to this degree by no shape, by
Speaker 2: no stress of the imagination.
Speaker 1: That's there's something there though, because I feel like the
Speaker 1: black people that I know in the United States, there's
Speaker 1: either people who are like avid travelers or people who
Speaker 1: don't leave the block. Oh yeah, it's literally. I remember
Speaker 1: years ago when I had put out a tweet that said,
Speaker 1: if you have money for Jordan's and tracksuit and Nike
Speaker 1: tracksuits and you don't have a passport, you're losing. The
Speaker 1: attack that came down on me, mind you, I didn't
Speaker 1: say nothing about black people with the attack that came
Speaker 1: down on me. I'll never forget this one tweet that said,
Speaker 1: Amanda Seals is a petty bourgeoisie, a leanist is attacking
Speaker 1: and shaming the disenfranchised and passport shaming the disenfranchised black
Speaker 1: community of course, and here we are, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we don't have a culture of movement anymore, and we
Speaker 1: need it.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that, though, for most Black folks,
Speaker 2: is due to it never having been voluntary. Like the
Speaker 2: history of like movement in them has always been as
Speaker 2: a result of like famine, war, death, destruction. I've never
Speaker 2: been in a space where like I feel good here,
Speaker 2: now let me go see something else, but like I
Speaker 2: don't feel good here, so then me traveling to me
Speaker 2: like I'm not able to see it in that same regard,
Speaker 2: you know, like, and I think I do encourage everyone
Speaker 2: to travel, and I have a travel I'm really want
Speaker 2: of them around the black niggas to be honest right, Well,
Speaker 2: for me, my family never traveled. I like I we
Speaker 2: traveled traveling for them.
Speaker 1: You were twenty six, are you not?
Speaker 2: No, I'm twenty three.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, you're seven years old. Where do you want
Speaker 1: to go? Do you have a passport? Brand?
Speaker 2: I do have a passport?
Speaker 1: Yes, where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: Okay? Tangent here? But I'll be nervous about traveling a
Speaker 2: lot of times because of my dietary restrictions and.
Speaker 1: I mean, now we in the whole other can you
Speaker 1: tell us are you willing to tell us?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just peanuts. It's just peanuts, So.
Speaker 1: Don't go to Thailand.
Speaker 2: But for real, and it's it's it's it's that in
Speaker 2: combination with just I am the first in my family
Speaker 2: to kind of like like I we just don't do that.
Speaker 2: That's not something my family does. It's like does your traveling.
Speaker 2: I didn't have that model for me.
Speaker 1: You know, like where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: I want to go to my advice we're talking about Guadaloup.
Speaker 2: I want to go to Guadeloup.
Speaker 1: Guadaloup the island. M h. If you pay for your hotel,
Speaker 1: I will buy you a plane ticket to Guadeloup.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it. I mean, like financials
Speaker 2: is a big thing. I'll probably try more if I
Speaker 2: had to break it.
Speaker 1: But bread, so people use that all the time, and
Speaker 1: that is bullshit. All it takes is it's it is.
Speaker 1: It is bullshit because if you want to go see places,
Speaker 1: you can get there the amount of because they want
Speaker 1: they need tourism. They use tourism. So it is very
Speaker 1: easy if you have a desire to to find a
Speaker 1: way to get places. It just means that you may
Speaker 1: not be seeing in a luxury but who cares. So
Speaker 1: you find a place to stay and I will book
Speaker 1: you a fly to Guadeloupe.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it. And I mean it
Speaker 2: is bs to the sense that like obviously, while I
Speaker 2: mean I have the most liquid, you know, money at
Speaker 2: my disposal, I'll be going out. I'll go to it,
Speaker 2: I go to a spot, I get a bottle, We'll
Speaker 2: do the whole thing.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Let's you go out three times a week. By the
Speaker 1: time you go out at the end of the month,
Speaker 1: you done spent what it would cost you to fly coach.
Speaker 1: And you know, don't get me wrong, Like there are
Speaker 1: places that you can go that are going to be
Speaker 1: less expensive than other places.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: A lot of people go to Thailand because yeah, the
Speaker 1: plane ticket be a grit. But then once you get there,
Speaker 1: everything is five dollars, you know, But you don't go
Speaker 1: to Saint Bart's because everything there is fifty thousand dollars, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, It's just the way it goes. So the reality, though,
Speaker 1: is that you also have to expand your consciousness to
Speaker 1: be able to even expand the consciousness of the children
Speaker 1: around you, Like, that's just a real And you know,
Speaker 1: when I see folks that have the intellect that you
Speaker 1: have but you haven't had the opportunity to even like
Speaker 1: just get out of your space, it's like that is
Speaker 1: part of the oppression, right the and it tricks you.
Speaker 1: It tricks you. It tricks you into thinking this is
Speaker 1: all there is. So figure it out and do not
Speaker 1: forfeit my offer.
Speaker 2: Don't play with me, Okay, I won't because.
Speaker 1: Don't nobody else get people offers like this. And you
Speaker 1: know if I had, I had somebody to do that
Speaker 1: with me recently, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, hey, I won't do it. Look, I'll get
Speaker 2: to looking right now. I ain't got to tell me.
Speaker 2: I getut, I get up out of town. I got.
Speaker 1: Brandy gonna come back. I found my wife. I'm speaking French.
Speaker 1: I'm staying.
Speaker 2: Different.
Speaker 1: It's different, all of that, all right, So just so,
Speaker 1: just so y'all know when you're buying books, this is
Speaker 1: the type of shit it go to. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the type of shit when y'all buy books, it goes
Speaker 1: to and again as agents as which as Chituba says,
Speaker 1: don't let your family story limit you so let it
Speaker 1: inspire you. Let it inspire you. My family never went,
Speaker 1: so I have to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, feel me.
Speaker 1: So we have this on the books, y'all. It is
Speaker 1: now witnessed that Brandon has committed to finding a place
Speaker 1: to stay. And if anybody here knows of any affordable
Speaker 1: housing in Guadaloup or any affordable hotels in Guadaloup, please
Speaker 1: let us know so that we can get Brandon out
Speaker 1: of Losa Statos Junidos to experience something different. I actually
Speaker 1: think I may have a connect for you.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit my homegirl be on the Compton of
Speaker 1: know you're Caribbean. She know everybody. Okay, Brandon all was
Speaker 1: a pledge. Like literally, when I looked on the schedule
Speaker 1: and I said you were coming on.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: My fellow nose ring lots gang. Absolutely absolutely, So we
Speaker 1: will be in touch and make sure you take a
Speaker 1: lot of pictures.
Speaker 2: I will, I will, all right, yet,