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<v Speaker 1>From Morecast Connect and aj Benza. Fame Uh, he'd liked

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<v Speaker 1>to be walked on a leash and play really dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>kinky sex games. Is the guy put the cock in

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<v Speaker 1>the Peacock network. Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Benzi here,

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<v Speaker 1>but fame is a bitch. This is your daily Unfiltered

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for June eleventh, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one, one, two two five.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the Double Ones because they doubled their twenty two's

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<v Speaker 1>and quadruples. We know they're forty four, So the Double Ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I love eleven eleven on the clocks. I

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<v Speaker 1>kiss my phone, I kiss laptop. Well, it's crazy the

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<v Speaker 1>things I kiss when I see eleven eleven. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why. It's just a stupid thing. But I'm not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people do it. I just wolfed down two chicken

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<v Speaker 1>cutlets from last night.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen, not just.

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<v Speaker 1>The chicken cutlets, which are expertly fried, but also sliced

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<v Speaker 1>up really good, juicy red tomatoes, not the typical ones

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<v Speaker 1>you see at the store, which lasts for fucking four months.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you get tomatoes that last that long, last a

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<v Speaker 1>month on your countertop, or get rid of them. They

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<v Speaker 1>got most steroids in them than Arnold Schwarzenegger from the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>You need fruit and vegetables that tend to go bad

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<v Speaker 1>anyhow for smallsh tomato, plum, tomatoes, balsamic, extra virgin olive oil,

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<v Speaker 1>salt and pepper, some basil from the little potted plant

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<v Speaker 1>I got in front of the house the garden there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, cutlets over tomato, basil, balsamic and extra

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<v Speaker 1>virgin olivo. I can't. It's just it's heaven. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes think of, like what if I have had

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<v Speaker 1>a little prisk what if things really? What if I

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<v Speaker 1>do something awful, I'll never have cutlets with tomatoes and

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<v Speaker 1>basil and vinegar and oil again. Oh my god, think

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<v Speaker 1>about that the next time you want to hold off

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<v Speaker 1>and punch somebody. Because I see many things happening out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the real world that make me want to

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<v Speaker 1>m haul back and deliver a fucking right hand to

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<v Speaker 1>these people's faces. I'm talking about the riots. Five days

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<v Speaker 1>of this shit going on six now. So now I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, but before I do, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>there is we listen us people on the right. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a significant win to celebrate. Yes we do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than ABC telling the Hens on the View to

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<v Speaker 1>tone down the Trump rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 2>This is bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bigger than the tech Titans from Northern California to

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<v Speaker 1>DC and kissing the ring. This is bigger. ABC News

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<v Speaker 1>has fired their stupid jerk off veteran reporter or correspondent,

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Moran, because he went on that dumb social media

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<v Speaker 1>rant where he targeted President Trump and Trump's advisor Steven Miller, who,

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<v Speaker 1>for my money, might be the smartest person in politics

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the last twenty years. Really, guy's brilliant. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to see anybody trying debate this kid. I say, kid,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a man, but to me, he's much younger, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's a kid. Went to the gym today. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a membership with Rocco, but I also got

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<v Speaker 1>him his own membership in case he wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not around. As I said to him, look

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too fucking fat. I gotta get this is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta start working out tomorrow. I said, But I

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<v Speaker 1>got your own membership for yourself. You want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a friend, you go. And I was telling the guy

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<v Speaker 1>behind the count, oh, he's available to have his own.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he, you don't need that. He said, strong kid,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an athlete. Take his father's ays. Don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>a trainer. The guy didn't know what to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said that. I said, I don't mean it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta go. I can't take people.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't sometimes, like whenever I leave the house, at

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<v Speaker 1>times I feel like, am I ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I ready to deal with people?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? I went to the bank today right for some

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<v Speaker 1>stupid reason that I can't explain. There's plenty of money

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<v Speaker 1>in my account. But earlier, but I was in La,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in Vegas. We did we sent a check

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<v Speaker 1>through the computer to the landlord, and for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>another check was like also got to them. And they

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<v Speaker 1>called me and said, mister Ben's, we have two checks.

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<v Speaker 1>You should I hold this till June. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose, so just hold it till June's rent. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I get a call today, mister BENSI there's

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<v Speaker 1>a stop payment. I said, I would never do that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of money in that account.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go to the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, listen, I gotta send a bill pay to

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<v Speaker 1>my landlord, and I'm giving them. And I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>that women at the bank, by the way, all Central American,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what the fuck to do. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do bill pit. Yeah, you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone, on your app. Okay, let me do

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<v Speaker 1>it in front of you. So here's the place I

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<v Speaker 1>have to send. If you did your account number, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I do. It didn't happen last month. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife did it, but I mean I was out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>But I called the landlord. They're like, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need our account number. Just the point is, nobody knows nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And the women I were talking to what them allan?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ask me how I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just feel bad for me that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But here for twenty seven years, I know at every

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<v Speaker 1>bank and every doctor's office, and every cashier is our

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<v Speaker 1>Armenian or Central American. And they all speak the same

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<v Speaker 1>and sound the same. The Armenians.

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<v Speaker 2>We better jewelry, but they're the same. They don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being you. I keep I shouldn't keep talking this.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember going to banks and the bank would give

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<v Speaker 1>you your mother and father a set of dishes or

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<v Speaker 1>a toaster for opening up a new account. Remember Christmas accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew your name when you walked in over unless

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<v Speaker 1>you live in a nice small town and the people

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<v Speaker 1>there are still red blooded Americans working behind the glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe your bank doesn't even have bulletproof class that's that

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<v Speaker 1>would be amazing, but that doesn't exist here.

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<v Speaker 2>We got that in delicatessens and shock.

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<v Speaker 1>Its gross. And they know what you call these stores

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<v Speaker 1>out here? You know, they just I guess liquor stores

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<v Speaker 1>again in New York to bodegas, you get everything, fruits, vegetables, sodas, liquor,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want, sandwiches, cereal. You do all your shopping

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<v Speaker 1>there at like thirty percent of a higher rate, but

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<v Speaker 1>you get everything done. And it's always a Vietnamese or

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<v Speaker 1>a Chinese person sitting on a pail, you know, separating

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<v Speaker 1>beans from the string being thing. They just don't stop

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<v Speaker 1>working here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's three or four people that don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, what need to do? Excuse me? What the melting pot?

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<v Speaker 1>With the melting pot? But I was in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>New York City was called the melting Pot, and I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest, I loved it. I loved going out

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<v Speaker 1>and the people I met, the people I hung out with,

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<v Speaker 1>in drank with, and dance with and fell in love with,

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<v Speaker 1>were all from every part of the world. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a muscle in my body that didn't like or or

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<v Speaker 1>had preconceived ideas about anybody else. Black, White, Egyptian, Vietnamese, Spanish, Pole.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>The older I got, it changed. It's just different. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's different. It's not as friendly as it used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. We used to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of all felt the same. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>touch on that in a second, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it's so great that Terry Moran was dumped

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<v Speaker 1>suspended by the network.

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<v Speaker 2>Not too many hours after.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave Steven Miller the bullshit and called him a

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<v Speaker 1>world class hater, and ABC News says, we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of our agreement with Terry Moran, and based on

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<v Speaker 1>his recent post, which was a clear violation of ABC News,

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<v Speaker 1>we've made the decision to not renew. Oh, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We hold all of our reporters to the highest standards

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<v Speaker 1>of object Let's not get carried away because you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>held up to that standard for years. But I remember

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<v Speaker 1>what I was the Daily News, and it came down to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Pete's gonna fire you. Pete Hamill, my oiler

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<v Speaker 1>in chief, my idol, who I assume was still a

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<v Speaker 1>fist fire and womanizing, hard drinker, because that's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be turned out. He was none of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. He sober, he was no longer throwing punches.

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<v Speaker 1>He was married to I think an Asian woman, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was very liberal. And he said, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can let you go because I could hire four

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<v Speaker 1>or five reporters and pay them what I'm paying you,

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<v Speaker 1>or you could change your beat. You could be my

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<v Speaker 1>guy in New York City that writes about all the

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<v Speaker 1>new immigrants coming into the city. This is nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I don't think. I don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Pete, I don't. That doesn't excite me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the new immigrant I mean, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>where he was way back then.

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<v Speaker 2>These things don't happen overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a few decades before it's like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the problem right about the new immigrants who

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<v Speaker 1>are really in the city. I don't think I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, you know what I mean? It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel right, and here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my train and thought I had to run

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<v Speaker 1>to the kitchen because I actually had a pot of

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<v Speaker 1>water on to cook some pasta and made some pestal

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, and I wanted to have a quick

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<v Speaker 1>bowl of pesto. But it's getting too late, so I

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<v Speaker 1>shut the sole wolf. I wasn't thinking what I had

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Pete Hamill wanted me to be that

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<v Speaker 3>guy that talked to the new immigrants, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>no desire to do that. But like I said, these

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<v Speaker 3>things start to become an issue way before you think it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like an innocent thing he suggested I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew that's not the way I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to sit down with Haitians in their kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>or check stands or whatever the new people were coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I said, I'd rather write about Pam Anderson's

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<v Speaker 1>new tits. He said, well, that's where we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we disagree. Well that was it. He's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>The News fired him six months after he got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of me. And unfortunately he's gone. Pete great man, great ride,

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<v Speaker 1>a great American. And I'm still talking about things like

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<v Speaker 1>pam Anson's new Tits. So I guess I win. But

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<v Speaker 1>ABC News making a big commotion, and I love when

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<v Speaker 1>he interviewed Trump, Trump said, looks, Stee, I gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I didn't. I didn't thank.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who you are, but I gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. You're doing very terribly. You're doing a very

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<v Speaker 1>bad job. My Trump isn't up the standards. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been doing it as much, so I got to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into it. But he told them, Steve, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing right. You're doing it wrong. Terry, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who you are. Now I'm not there. I gotta fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking the fixes yesterday, I mentioned a bunch of suicides

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of people, and I mentioned Paul Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of you said, ay J, Paul Walker crashed

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<v Speaker 1>his car into a tree. He wasn't committing suicide. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that. I know exactly how he died.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a theory out there that he might have

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<v Speaker 1>Messed with that kind of shit. I'm sure it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the case, but I do tell that story of the

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<v Speaker 1>one night I went out with him because for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment in time, we had the same manager, Stephen Fenton,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Fenton, Corny Little. He's a good looking, decent looking guy,

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<v Speaker 1>blonde haired guy. Actually told me when he signed me,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, business is shot right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if you can resurrect it. And he did

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<v Speaker 1>One night, we were driving through New York's through La

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<v Speaker 1>from a movie shoot for some independent short film I did, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you might let me stop betting at one

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<v Speaker 1>of these donuts. It's one of those donut chains that's

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<v Speaker 1>here in La, you know. And it wasn't the best neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Hollywood, but it was still like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an armed security guard at the door and

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<v Speaker 1>a few black guys going around us. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>get a glazed donut and a clo if he wants to, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think we should up. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about, Well, it just looks very dangerous, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fucking donut shop.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you worry about what do you want? Hayes

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. What do you what if you want to get?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No. I think we set out here. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. He was dating the actress Yale O'Grady.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Gale O'Grady, good looking woman. Anyhow, he also

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<v Speaker 1>represented Paul Walker, and one night he and me and

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Walker went out with Steve, and then Steve left

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<v Speaker 1>us after a while. He basically told me, this kid's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a star, you know, take him out.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back on it now, it seems ridiculous that I

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<v Speaker 1>young actor out because he might be somebody one day.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's really what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to d'antannas, which I might go to Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>night with the great Alison Martino.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about hanging out again.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to really do something fun with all these

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries and scandals episodes he has on tape, in terms of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe getting a theater where we can show

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<v Speaker 1>some episodes, have a question and answer, you know, time

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<v Speaker 1>between me and her and other people with the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be great, and you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to her page Vintage los Angeles on Facebook. Allison is

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<v Speaker 1>the curator, the greatest curator of all things Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll let you know, well, hopefully i'll see her tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>being Wednesday night. But anyhow, I'm out with Paul, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at D'antani's, where i'll probably go tomorrow tonight. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his name? The Jarkroff ginger head from seventy show

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<v Speaker 1>comes around me, the guy who's in prison now. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, what's going on? Just being a Jarkroff

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stand him. Then Danny Masterson and then Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>I hang it out waiting for waiting for a table,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly it's like a lot of noise behind me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see his face light up. It's like three

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<v Speaker 1>girls who were looking very interested, very pretty girls in

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<v Speaker 1>our direction. And I thought, oh, well, I'm gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>this kid how it's done. No, they were not looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me. They wanted Paul. They fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>his ocean blue eyes. But he did say that night

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what he wanted to do in his career,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, look, I just want to play a copper

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that gets behind the wheel of a fast car,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what his career became, fast and furious until

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<v Speaker 1>he fucking crashed his car into a tree. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to address that because people thought I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe he committed suici. I don't mean it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a thing. People were throwing theories

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<v Speaker 1>out there and no. And I was talking about cars,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought of, remember last week we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>people who named their houses that very interesting to say

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<v Speaker 1>the least, Like, oh, yes, remember when we looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the Phairmont, Like what, why didn't you what the fucking address?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Evans house was Woodland but he lived on

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<v Speaker 1>Woodland Drive, so it wasn't a stretch. But some people

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<v Speaker 1>really have big names for their homes, which I'm not against.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was talking about naming cars, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I got my sixty four Fleet would Cadillac painted

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<v Speaker 1>Caribbean blue?

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<v Speaker 2>Not painted?

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<v Speaker 1>He came that way, a paint color they no longer use,

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<v Speaker 1>just like my ninety three Lincoln Continent of that color's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a shame. Every fucking car looks the same nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had like six thousand dollars to my name,

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<v Speaker 1>and me and Chico, we just we just drove to

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<v Speaker 1>La We're at seven eleven and a fucking u hole

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<v Speaker 1>getting some gatorade of beef turkey or something. And this gypsy,

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<v Speaker 1>this older man, a gypsy Romanian type guy you see

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful car. The interior is the looor blue and black.

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<v Speaker 1>The car you could raise a family of six in

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<v Speaker 1>the back seat. I'm like, God, this fucking amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I knew I was gonna get the nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six El Dorado from Vinnie, and I had it for

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<v Speaker 1>a week or two and it started giving me issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I can't afford to have a car.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta keep going to the mechanic for every visits

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<v Speaker 1>through fifty three fifty I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I walked it.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes like, you gotta get this car, said Chica.

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<v Speaker 1>I got six thousand dollars and pay days two weeks away.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get it, Pope, you gotta get it. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about you with this car and the show you have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. I'm like, I know. So I sit to

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<v Speaker 1>the guy in seven to eleven. Are you selling that car? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling how much you want. Five thousand, Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. Listen, he said, But for I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 1>drive it around the block. You'll see you sitting in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know about engines. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lie to you. I'm not a car guy. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good in it, I'll buy it. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>drive it me and she go get in for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't care. He's drinking his coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt good, you know, it felt great, And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, sixty four. Bro, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, I said the guy, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>the money tomorrow and make a deal with him. Give

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<v Speaker 1>him five grand I got a thousand dollars left. Chico

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<v Speaker 1>was riding around in the car. He made a sign

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<v Speaker 1>up that just said it's a sixty four. Because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would get to a red light, what's the year? So

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<v Speaker 1>he just got holding up the sign with a stick

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<v Speaker 1>in his hand, it's a sixty four. It was so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>But I called him a gypsy because he was like

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<v Speaker 1>a Romanian gypsy type.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the reason why I knew I had to have

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<v Speaker 2>the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Was when I got in the car to test driving,

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<v Speaker 1>because I said, Chico, I'm gonna buy a car from

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<v Speaker 1>his fucking gypsy at seven to eleven, Chica, we just

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<v Speaker 1>got here to fuck these people up. Pope, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get this cars.

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<v Speaker 2>You turned on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't working, and suddenly he turned a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>corners of the antenna from the back shoots up, and

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<v Speaker 1>now the song's coming in and it's Stevie Nick singing

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<v Speaker 1>Gypsy from Fleetwood Mad And not only did I call

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<v Speaker 1>him the Gypsy, but because she prosally had three different

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<v Speaker 1>Gypsies in her Yorkshire Terrier brood. And it's I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It's done, It's done. You know all my

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<v Speaker 1>cars have that kind of feeling. And I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the love affair I had with my nineteen ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes five hundred sl which was a celebrity lease.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, because you know, my column was popping and I

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<v Speaker 1>was on TV a lot, and I met this guy

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<v Speaker 1>at a wedding. Actually I think it was Tico Torres's

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<v Speaker 1>wedding to Ava Hertzekova, who worked at Mercedes on the

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you're looking for a celebrity lease.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I did. He was talking about so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a car, yeah, you know, and he gave

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<v Speaker 1>me the car. It was gonna be given to the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets rookie name key Shawan Johnson, but he

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<v Speaker 1>said he's dropping too many passes and Mercedes doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be associated with him.

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<v Speaker 2>John Johnson went on to have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great NFL career, But it was me lucky at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>and they well, they didn't give me the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid four in a month.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, it was three fifty to garage

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<v Speaker 1>in Manhattan, so seven to fifty month I had my

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes five hundred SL convertible hard top. The whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was classic. And I'll get to that when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about sly Stone, who died the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>left a big hole in the music industry.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I get there, this whole thing with Simone.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm gonna save Simone.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowles and Roley Gaines for tomorrow because it's so like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not where I want to go. Simone Bowles

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong in the way she spoke about transgenders coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the sport and acting like it's not a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal and let's all, you know, virtue signaling. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that tomorrow. I'll talk about Jared Lado tomorrow too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's been weird lately. There's been stories about

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<v Speaker 1>women saying when I was young, he came after me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very creepy and sneaky.

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<v Speaker 1>Unit I've always heard that about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you have to measure the talent level of an

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<v Speaker 1>actor with how weird he can be off camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of actors like Nicholas Cage who are

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<v Speaker 1>completely insane off camera, but when the movie is on

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<v Speaker 1>and the camera's rolling, they know what their job is.

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Rourke's the same way. But you get these guys

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<v Speaker 1>off a movie set and they're fucking nuts. And Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Laedo is one of those guys. He's a rock star

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to a movie star and an Oscar winner.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have that kind of you just you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take advantage of opportunities. Sometimes that don't always seem right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the It was an example of like

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<v Speaker 1>many years ago when I was on top of my

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<v Speaker 2>I forget where I even was.

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00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Was someplace in Hollywood, and she recognized me from watching

420
00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.839
<v Speaker 1>me on TV. I'm like, let's say thirty six, she's

421
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:22.079
<v Speaker 1>like nineteen twenty, and you know, the mother's like, hey,

422
00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but my daughter's a big fan of yours. The mother

423
00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:26.839
<v Speaker 1>was like, not that much older than I was. It

424
00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.319
<v Speaker 1>was very weird, but she's like, get her number, get her,

425
00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.559
<v Speaker 1>give us your number. And I'm doing this going yeah,

426
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'd like to see this girl. She's young,

427
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:39.839
<v Speaker 1>but the mother's behind it. I mean, you get these

428
00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>situations where you go, oh, okay, I guess this is same,

429
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.559
<v Speaker 1>like that awful crazy story of a woman I'll never

430
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.319
<v Speaker 1>know her name when Jack and Joey and Rosalie and

431
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Jack came out here and I was, you know, my

432
00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:57.079
<v Speaker 1>E show is.

433
00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Popping my name mama on TV. The whole thing.

434
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm living life like crazy and I'm at the Montreon Hotel.

435
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Skybar was the place inside the hotel off Sunset Boulevard

436
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.319
<v Speaker 1>on Sunset Boulevard and with my two nephews.

437
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.359
<v Speaker 2>To me, this was the epitome of fame.

438
00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I could fly my family out, put them up in

439
00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:23.720
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful hotel, hang out with my nephews, slash brothers,

440
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and show them what it's like to be in my shoes.

441
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It was just great, you know.

442
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

443
00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Watching me shoot mysteries and scandals on the boulevard. It

444
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>was just, you know, I lived for that, opened up

445
00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a bank account, gave the bank cards. You need money,

446
00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't worry about it. This just I loved

447
00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>being that guy. And a girl approaches me and approaches us,

448
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:51.519
<v Speaker 1>and she's a little tipsy, you know, we start talking

449
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.759
<v Speaker 1>to her. I came out here with my mother from

450
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Oregon or maybe San Diego, whoever it was.

451
00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.079
<v Speaker 2>It was like two hours away at least, because.

452
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to find aj Ben's and he always talks

453
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.559
<v Speaker 1>about Skybar when he's on his e show, when he's

454
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 1>on the Gossip Show, he's always at Skybar. So he

455
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 1>came out here to find she's looking at me right

456
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>in the face. I said, did you find him? No,

457
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't see him anywhere. Matphews and I are just

458
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like kind of staying quiet. Oh that's weird. He usually

459
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:21.920
<v Speaker 1>comes here. I see him all the time. What would

460
00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 1>you do if you saw him? I definitely have to

461
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:28.319
<v Speaker 1>sleep with them. Just she's getting slopping now. And after

462
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like five minutes this, I go, listen, I'm a j no,

463
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I give him my license. Oh my god, so embarrassed,

464
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 1>drags her mother over, talk about embarrassing.

465
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 2>It's AJ.

466
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you you knew you'd made him?

467
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

468
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of.

469
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:46.440
<v Speaker 2>You, proud of you.

470
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And like in two minutes, I said, well, I'm gonna

471
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>get out of here. My nephew's is staying here. I

472
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.799
<v Speaker 1>gotta go back to Hollywood. Says I'm coming with you,

473
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and the mother gives us the whole, like, hey, how

474
00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>fun kind of thing, the traveling back to my apartment,

475
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 1>this teeny weeny place off Santa Monica Boulevard, the first

476
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:10.599
<v Speaker 1>place that Marilyn Monroe lived in. It's a hovel, it's

477
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a gingerbread house. And she's starting to tell me about

478
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>her life. And I said, listen to me right now.

479
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know your name, because I'll be honest.

480
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't a ten Okay. It was the kind of

481
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>girl that my nephew said, are you sure you want

482
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to go home with her? Yeah? I do. What's I

483
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't thinking, right, I don't want to get it just

484
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't my type.

485
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.079
<v Speaker 2>But I said, I'm gonna go. I don't want to

486
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:34.559
<v Speaker 2>know your name.

487
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know anything.

488
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't you want to know where I work?

489
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>No? Actually they were from San Francisco. Now I remember,

490
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 1>because she finally was able to say she works in

491
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 1>a menagerial position.

492
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 2>For the gap.

493
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, stop, that's it, that's all I want

494
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to know, and went back to my apartment, did the

495
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>deed and we're done, And I said, I flow you

496
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>camp gets back to the Mandre and that's where you stay.

497
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no problem, but let me tell you my name?

498
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:00.519
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no, here's my phone.

499
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want your phone them please just not center

500
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>back to the Mandra never heard from her again, obviously,

501
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's the level of stupidity and quote unquote fame

502
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that exists out there, and her mother was behind it,

503
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 1>signing all fun and so Jared leto Yes, he could

504
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>be creepy because he's a big fucking movie star and

505
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.599
<v Speaker 1>yet he likes girls on the younger side.

506
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, We'll get into that more during the week, but.

507
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about sly Stone and the importance

508
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of him passing away. I mean, this guy, I don't

509
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 1>know how much she listened to his music, but you

510
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about you can't even pin him down to a

511
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 1>certain kind of music that his group sly and the

512
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Family Stone had did perform psychedelic cold funk. I don't know.

513
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>The guy created the songs, wrote the songs, produced them,

514
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 1>sang on them, the brainchild of a supergroup in the

515
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sixties and seventies. And you look, you know, some of

516
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the best musicians out there will tell you that when

517
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he got there, when he got to the top as

518
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 1>bligd as he was later in life for having issues

519
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 1>with drugs and shit like that, this is a guy

520
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>who opened the door for so many other musicians to

521
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>know where to walk in. Like I said yesterday, there

522
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>might not have been a Prince or Lenny Kravitz, or

523
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>an Andre three thousand, or an outcast or Bruno Mars,

524
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe not even Public Enemy without sly Stone doing what

525
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>he did. I mean, listen, you can't sing on every

526
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>day people. You can't sing that without absolutely knowing what's

527
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 1>in your heart. And at the same time trying to

528
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>help others find that feeling in them. That's a song

529
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>that goes so much deeper than some of the pop shit,

530
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the bull shit pop songs.

531
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw Katie Perry the other day.

532
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Some gay fan jumped on stage and Sydney Australian you know,

533
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 1>got next to while she's playing the song You're.

534
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Hot and You're cold, You're.

535
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes and your no, you know, and then you're a

536
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>rapp its like, who fucking cares about that song?

537
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you she hates it. But everyday people.

538
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>That did did they And here she comes a uh oh,

539
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that's summer day, Oh summer. There's so many hits they

540
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 1>blended into each other. I used to ride around that

541
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 1>cat and that Mercedes with with my Slider family Stone

542
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>CDs man. Ah.

543
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>As brilliant as he was, like.

544
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>This happens in Hollywood, it came down to how he

545
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>can handle the money, the notoriety, the flash, the schedule,

546
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the demands, the public, the.

547
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>And the thing.

548
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's another battle besides just creating the songs

549
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and the music and the sound and the group. Well

550
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>then how can you sustain it?

551
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Can you keep.

552
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Juggling all those instruments and those balls in the air.

553
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>You gotta keep it going. Are you strong enough?

554
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>It's fucking tough man. I'm not saying we should feel

555
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 1>bad for people who get to that point in life,

556
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 1>but there is an additional amount of work you have

557
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>to do. Can't just take the god, the gift that

558
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>God gave you and performing.

559
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.599
<v Speaker 2>And think that I've done. No, you gotta get the

560
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>work done.

561
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>You're gotta take what He's given you and make.

562
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>It all work.

563
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>It's look, it ain't taking ditches, but it's a different

564
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of hard work. And when you work for yourself,

565
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and to a minuscule example me, you know, I work

566
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>for myself. It's not a familiar position. I've always worked

567
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>for network studios, what have you, newspapers, big institutions that

568
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 1>you follow rules and guidelines and you know, instructions. Well,

569
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>when you're your own boss. Somebody said recently, you can't

570
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 1>be a shitty boss and a shitty employee and stay successful.

571
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.279
<v Speaker 1>And again, eventually he got to slidestone, and you know,

572
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 1>he succumbed to some of the things in life that

573
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>people do. But there's this crazy moment in this documentary

574
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>that questlove the musician produced. Excuse me, it's called Slide Lives,

575
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and it opens up with this female.

576
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Interviewer is saying to Slicestone.

577
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>You know this musical talent you have, you're the envy

578
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>of so many people in the recording industry, and you've

579
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>made it to the top. And then she asked him,

580
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.559
<v Speaker 1>why did you blow it all? And he's sitting there smiling, going,

581
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't blow nothing, you know. He just life just

582
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>met him headfirst, and he got to a point where

583
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't showing up to venues on time.

584
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 2>He was skipped in concerts, He.

585
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Had to put up twenty thousand dollars up front for

586
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a club or arena before they would agree to pay

587
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>him because he was unreliable.

588
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Drugs, you know.

589
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 1>And of course Questlove goes into this whole other thing,

590
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>which I'm not happy about, but it's a great documentary

591
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>either way. But it's like, you know, Sly lived, He says,

592
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Sly lives with the burden of black genius. He lived

593
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>with the burden of black jeens. That's a fucking cop

594
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 1>out to me. Doesn't matter what color you are, people

595
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 1>blow their opportunities. White, black, brown, doesn't matter. People blow

596
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>their opportunities and blow their fame has nothing to do

597
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>with color. I don't like the Questlove introduce that, but

598
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever the hell bound to happen when a

599
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>musician like that.

600
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the black experience.

601
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I think I know a lot about it.

602
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I was around a lot.

603
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Of it for many years, and I'm still amazed by

604
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>some of the shit that people say in the black

605
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 1>community that I'm like, really, you still feel that way? Wow?

606
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not in their shoes.

607
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>So but it's sad, you know, there's so many.

608
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>People who don't truly understand how influential Sylvester well sly Stone,

609
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Sylvester Stone was. He was just very important to the

610
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>music we all love and took for granted for many years.

611
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 1>There was a time where Questlove was on this panel

612
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 1>talking about the documentary and he said, sly happened to

613
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>be at the helm creating the language and the alphabet

614
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>for which even to this day, we're still using his

615
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 1>tools and his tricks of the trade to express ourselves

616
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>through music. But it's also extremely it's very possible for

617
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>all of that to get lost to history. And that's

618
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of what this is about. What me and my producer.

619
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Want you to know is why would you get to

620
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the mountaintop and then just walk away from it? And

621
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what sliced alone slone Sly Stone did. Sorry, it's

622
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 1>so easy to say sliced alone. That's what Stone did.

623
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Had his band in the mid sixties, Sly and the Stoners,

624
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.359
<v Speaker 1>which would give you an idea right away what they're like.

625
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>And then it was Freddy and the Stone.

626
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Souls and they joined forces those two and they had

627
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 1>this concept to make this band and there's so many hits.

628
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for letting me be myself again. And it's

629
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 1>not even like when you were my age and you

630
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>got an album where your sisters had an album that

631
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 1>you could read the front, back, the middle. The liner notes,

632
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it was a whole day. It wasn't just hearing the

633
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>song on the radio or on TikTok and going who

634
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>sings this song and then knowing it instantly. It took

635
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>weeks to know the lyrics to a song that you

636
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 1>heard at the beat or in your car.

637
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>One time there was no internet to run to.

638
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You had to wait by the fucking radio and hope

639
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 1>it came on again. Like Bohemian Rhapsody or My Sharona

640
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 1>or any one of those earworms, Stairway to Heaven, whatever

641
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>came out. How could I know all the words? Well?

642
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 1>When albums were available in our childhood, we read the

643
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>line of notes and many songs the lyrics were there.

644
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 2>But that's not enough for sly Stone.

645
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>People think the song thank you for letting Me be

646
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>myself again, okay, but the way he spelled it, thank

647
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 1>you is spelled the traditional way for let me is

648
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>f A l E t t I n m e

649
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 1>thank you for let me b b e mice m

650
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I ce elf e l f again A g I

651
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 1>n thank you for letting me be mass elf again.

652
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure maybe you think that's not a

653
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>big deal, but it is a big deal. It's changing

654
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the way people can hear a lyric in their ear

655
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and turn it upside down and make it mean something else.

656
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 2>They just I mean, I'm very partial to that music.

657
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:53.079
<v Speaker 1>It was in my house a lot, and it's this

658
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>guy to me and that group had You know, I

659
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>grew up as a kid and when my brother in law,

660
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Jack was coaching at a largely black high school, and

661
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 1>he'd bring these athletes back to our home when they

662
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.079
<v Speaker 1>were going on for a baseball championship or basketball championship.

663
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I used to go with him to Westchester County, an

664
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 1>hour north of New York City and watch these boys

665
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>play ball, and I developed a.

666
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Keen interest in.

667
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Black culture with the Afros and the Afro Picks, the

668
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>bell bottomed pants and the silk shirts, and I'm like, ah, fuck,

669
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 1>have these guys play ball?

670
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And they dunk?

671
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the music they played, but they walk

672
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>into an arena. When Jack's team walked out to BT Express, he.

673
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Comes the Express Express. I don't even know if you

674
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 2>know that.

675
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't even words, which just here comes the

676
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.880
<v Speaker 1>BT Express and that's what they came out to, colembing

677
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.079
<v Speaker 1>their hair forward with the Afro Picks, dunking on the

678
00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>layup line.

679
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 2>I was hooked, line and sinker.

680
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So this guy still sly Stone had had the street,

681
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he had the church, and he had Motown. You know,

682
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 1>he knew he was like a Smokey Robinson in addition

683
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 1>to being cool and hip and dangerous.

684
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Smokey was never dangerous. He was just sweet.

685
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But with sly Stone, you go, well, how much can

686
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I like him without getting my heart broken?

687
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Dance to the music.

688
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm five years old, dance to the music that the

689
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>day all we need is a drama? Are you kidding me?

690
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>That was the first single. Then they come out with

691
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Stand Stand two years later I'm seven years old. That

692
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>became a big hit. Like everyday people like hot fun

693
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 1>in the summer time, and thank you for letting me

694
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>be myself again, and also everybody is a star.

695
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>But if you listen to.

696
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Stand, I'm telling you that's how I discovered that there

697
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>are other hits on albums besides this one, the songs

698
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 1>you hear on the radio at the beach on people's blankets. Wait,

699
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>there's another song called Stan that's the B side. Stan

700
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 1>was like that for me, and the other song that

701
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>blew me away was My Lady. If I'm not mistaken,

702
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's an apostrophe la d Malay.

703
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember dating chick who.

704
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Lived in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, which is where I was born,

705
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 1>and we go out in the city and I drop

706
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 1>her off. Her name is Terry, and I drop her

707
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>off at her apartment in the seventies. I was raised

708
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>in eightieth Street. She was in the seventies. I just

709
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 1>always was like, what this is amazing, I'm back at

710
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>benson Hurst.

711
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.559
<v Speaker 4>I remember these streets as a young young boy, you know,

712
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 4>the creamsickles and sitting on the stupid my grandmother and

713
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 4>Rosalie and walking to the park store.

714
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember these things as a young two three four

715
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>year old kid. And I kept going to Brooklyn after

716
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that because we had relatives there.

717
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.239
<v Speaker 2>And I remember leaving.

718
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Her apartment, dropping her off, and I had the five

719
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 1>hundred sl It was February. It was like twenty six

720
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 1>degrees out at night. We just had a great meal

721
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant called John's on Twelfth Street in Manhattan. John's

722
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>is an old school Joint's been there at least one

723
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred years. Their main thing in the middle of the

724
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 1>dining room was a bunch of candles. They would put

725
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>in kiyanti bottles right and the wax would drip down

726
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>from the candle and get over the bottles. That was

727
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 1>a very artistic thing back in the seventies for people

728
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>to have in their houses. But John's, I think at

729
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>this point twenty twenty five, I don't know if they

730
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>still feature it, but in the middle of their dining

731
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 1>room was a bunch of kiyanti bottles with just a

732
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>wax strippings down them, and it was like the centerpiece

733
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of the restaurant. It's a great place to take a

734
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 1>chick and not be seen. No one knows you're there.

735
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a neighborhood joint. Read my tablecloths, shit

736
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 1>red booth, red sauce.

737
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And I took her hair.

738
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 1>And drove it back to Bens and Earth and I

739
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't care back then, Oh yeah, I'm gonna go to

740
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>this dry and get you. And Brooklyn picked you up,

741
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>take you back to Manhatan for a meal, go what night?

742
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Clib drove it back to Bench and urse, I'll get

743
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>on the belt Parkway and go home. I mean, you talk,

744
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>ten drinks, fucking espresso, coffee pills. Just how the fuck

745
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 1>did I do it? But I remember kissing her in

746
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the car. The car seats were so crisp and strong.

747
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Everything in that car was new, and I would I

748
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>would lower the top. I kept the hardtop in the garage,

749
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>but I lowered the soft top and it was like

750
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty five degrees out and I keep the windows up

751
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and the heat on high. So we'd drive with her

752
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 1>hair whipping around, this beautiful Italian black hair. And I

753
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 1>remember kissing her good night. Nothing really came in this relationship,

754
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but sitting at good night and then flipping on sli

755
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Stone singing Milady as I drove away, and she called

756
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>me like fifteen minutes later saying, I heard your radio

757
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 1>for like five minutes after you left. It was blast

758
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>that you obviously had to just get on the bay

759
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bell Parkway.

760
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I heard it.

761
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh what a memory. And I think about some of

762
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the things when you look at sly Stone. He performed

763
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 1>at Woodstock. They performed at Woodstock. Cynthia Robinson was a

764
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>female who played the trumpet. Sly Stone was the first

765
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>guy to incorporate women in his band, white people with

766
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Black people, with males with females, a.

767
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Woman playing the trumpet.

768
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 1>You know.

769
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Prince introduced Chilae playing the drums.

770
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>That was great. But like I said, is there a

771
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Prince or Bruno Mars or Letty Kravitz or a lot

772
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 1>of these guys without sly I don't think so. But

773
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>when they performed that Woods singing I Want to Take

774
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 1>You Higher, which was a tough song for my father

775
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.639
<v Speaker 1>to like because it's basically.

776
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>A drug song.

777
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to Take You Higher, they couched it to

778
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>me in romance, but it was about drugs and there

779
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was a thunderstorm of woodstock.

780
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 2>One of their guys in the band got shot.

781
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:23.639
<v Speaker 1>The equipment was crackling, but Sly sat there, stood there,

782
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>singing like nothing was wrong. Half a million people in

783
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.239
<v Speaker 1>his hand. Also a moment you cannot recreate, like Diana

784
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Ross in Central Park in the pouring rain, prints at

785
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl playing Purple Rain in the pouring rain.

786
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 2>That's those are God given moments.

787
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 1>But man, flying the Family Stone. They got songs. They

788
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.159
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of songs that made Rolling Stones five

789
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 1>hundred greatest songs of all time. Dance to the music everyday,

790
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>people hot, fun in the summertime. Thank you for letting

791
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 1>me be myself, family fair and stand. And by the

792
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>mid seventies, you know, substance abuse, missing concerts, missing interviews,

793
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>missing appointments, like I said, having to put twenty grand

794
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>up front before he showed up.

795
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>But they kept going.

796
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>They kept going, and a lot of people, not only

797
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Prince but Beck, George Clinton, Parliament, Bootsye Collins, they all

798
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 1>give it up. The Livestone. And I remember being a kid,

799
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking maybe eleven years old. They were on a

800
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>show back in a day called Don Kirsher's Rock Concert.

801
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 1>It was a show that came on, I think at midnight,

802
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was like I always felt, if I was

803
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>up and watching that show, I was doing something so

804
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.079
<v Speaker 1>cool and probably disallowed in a lot of homes, you know,

805
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 1>to be up that late and watching the show about

806
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll, which was supposedly coming into your children's

807
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>brains and fucking them up. But to stay up and

808
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 1>listen to Don Curs's Rock Concert felt like a variety

809
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>show slash talk show. And I'm telling you I'm not wrong.

810
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact that watching that show along

811
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>with Dick Cabin, Mike Douglas, Johnny Carson obviously David let

812
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>him and later on it made me want to do

813
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I was enchanted just sitting there, my

814
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>knees on the rug and my elbows on this little hasseck.

815
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 1>We had a colonial, fucking little stool thing.

816
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>We voughted Ethan Allen. Why do I remember this shit?

817
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Ethan Allen on, Oh my god, it's too much to

818
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>remember the shit your brain keeps in. Get it. I

819
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of that, bring a new memory in.

820
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, I said, I could do this.

821
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to do that, and that's why when I

822
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>have my talk show, I wanted singers to perform, bands

823
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 1>to perform on the roof of this building we had

824
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 1>on the fire escape. I just thought that would be

825
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 1>really cool. People aren't doing that, and now you see

826
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.679
<v Speaker 1>John Mulaney. He does it on his Netflix show which

827
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>ran for what ten weeks on Netflix.

828
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Which I loved.

829
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 1>But he decided to introduced music acts. My deal was,

830
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to introduce new comedians and some music acts,

831
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and on Monday, when Broadway is dark in New York City,

832
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 1>my guest will be from Broadway shows. That was mostly

833
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>an idea of my producer, my gay producer, Michael Danny.

834
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:25.760
<v Speaker 2>But it was a great idea.

835
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>People don't really interview Broadway stars anyhow. The point is

836
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I sat there and watched his shit on TV. Don

837
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>cursed this ron concert. I think he came out eleven

838
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>or twelve at night. It was a magical time of night,

839
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 1>everyone's to sleep, and it always felt like I was

840
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to say this. I didn't feel nervous.

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00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 1>I felt a little more protected by the dark. I

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00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it was, but it just kind of

843
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>helped me. It helped shape who I became good or band,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say. Those are because of

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<v Speaker 1>the influences. Not listen. Before we coined the term social influencers,

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<v Speaker 1>and we sat through millions of their bullshit things they

847
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>do to steal our precious hours away from us on

848
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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and Instagram and what have you. But before that term,

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00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it was just influences. They were everywhere, but they weren't

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00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>always pointed directly at us. You have to search for

851
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 1>them somehow. Sometimes you went and go find them. Other

852
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 1>times they can come at you any old time. You

853
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 1>could be mowing your lawn. Something in your brain could

854
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 1>be sparked while you're sitting there moaning lawn, or in

855
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a red light, even having an argument. It didn't matter

856
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that influences came at you. If you had any kind

857
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 1>of creativity in your body and it just came at you,

858
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like tennis balls in a match, you have to fire

859
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<v Speaker 1>and back. Even while we sleep, there are things that

860
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<v Speaker 1>are constantly coming at our heads, and if they're already

861
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>in there anyways, you're gonna want to put them to work, right.

862
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 1>So you start to take these influences and make them

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<v Speaker 1>into the person you think you can be. I'm way

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<v Speaker 1>off point, but the point is, you know, they show

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<v Speaker 1>these videos of Slidestone coming up in the ranks in

866
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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco in the early sixties when it was wild

867
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<v Speaker 1>and a wacky place, with you know, just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talented people and all bumping into each other with

869
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<v Speaker 1>the same.

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00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Iconic time, and it kind of reminded me.

871
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<v Speaker 1>I heard Jay Moore on his podcast the other day

872
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 1>called More Stories m o Hr.

873
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I love his show. I love Jay. He went through

874
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:47.599
<v Speaker 2>his troubles.

875
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 1>He's straight and clean now for years and he's married

876
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>to Jeanie Buss, who runs the Lakers. I'm very happy

877
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>for his success. But he's got the life he had.

878
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>This kid was in you know. Jerry mcgo wire on snel,

879
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 1>he has had an amazing life, radio shows, TV shows.

880
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>One of his show's action should still be on the

881
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 1>air when he played the sports agent.

882
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 2>He was magnificent at it.

883
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Anyhow, he was talking about a time in his life

884
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<v Speaker 1>when him and Dane Cook and David Tell and Jim

885
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Norton and all these young comics were banging around each other.

886
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Jerry O'Connell, and it's like he said, we all made it.

887
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 1>We all didn't know what the fuck to do with

888
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the next day, but we all made it in some capacity.

889
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way I feel when I think about

890
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>those days back in New York City at my buddy

891
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Rocco's restaurant Boom and the people I was around. How

892
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>do you not, with the electricity around you become something

893
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>with a sparking you Growing up in New York City

894
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>in a specific circle of people, and I had out

895
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with many of those people who were bumping into each

896
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>other in small rooms and small lounges and restaurants and

897
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<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell, and we all made it in.

898
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<v Speaker 2>Some way, shape or form. I went downtown.

899
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<v Speaker 1>Julie Brown, Charlie Thren, the B fifty two singer what's

900
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 1>her name? Crew was in the Lady, whatever the fuck

901
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.239
<v Speaker 1>your name. We were all together, the guy who made

902
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<v Speaker 1>the bull on Wall Street, the statue Ortruda.

903
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Everybody was together in little rooms. Of course, we were gonna.

904
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Rub off each other, and sparks would ignite and send

905
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<v Speaker 1>us in different directions, you know what I mean. We

906
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>took energy from each other and gave it to one another.

907
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:47.079
<v Speaker 1>And then that energy that the neighborhood had it just

908
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>made everything wonderful. It was a fuel to help us

909
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>make it. And maybe I'm being cynical or sounding like

910
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:56.079
<v Speaker 1>an old man on the block, but.

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00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:58.679
<v Speaker 2>I think we were all better off when.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe you're doing it now, and God bless you

913
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<v Speaker 1>if you are, but it doesn't seem like that exists anymore.

914
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not. Maybe it was a better place when there

915
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<v Speaker 1>were bookstores on every few corners and jazz clubs and

916
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<v Speaker 1>music thank yous in places where maybe a poet could

917
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<v Speaker 1>hang his hat and try his wares. The world's not

918
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<v Speaker 1>like that anymore.

919
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 2>It's very impersonal to kind of impersonal.

920
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:32.360
<v Speaker 1>That I don't think a lot of songs and words

921
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<v Speaker 1>could be born right and have a life. And you know,

922
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>some people have to be touched and smelled and felt

923
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<v Speaker 1>and heard very up close to recognize the genius. And

924
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what Slidestone was. He was an innovator. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even strong enough words to call him, but I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something he was, And it's just this is very important.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I say all the time, it's one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If God gives you a talent or and if you

929
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<v Speaker 1>waste it, you fucked up the plan. Man.

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00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 2>If he gave you something.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta follow it. I don't care if it make

932
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 1>sure a millionaire or a miser. You've got to follow it.

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<v Speaker 1>I follow it every day. I'm not high in the hog,

934
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<v Speaker 1>but I follow God's gift. And it's not enough to

935
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<v Speaker 1>have the talent. You've got to be a steward of

936
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 1>that talent. You gotta earn your wings and be the

937
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>boss and the employee at the same time. And Slyestone,

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<v Speaker 1>he honored the gift that God gave him, and in

939
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>return he.

940
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Gave us so many timeless things.

941
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<v Speaker 1>The guy carried the weight of how heavy that fame was,

942
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 1>and at times it broke them. And look when he

943
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>left us.

944
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<v Speaker 2>And now he flies free and another good man God.

945
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<v Speaker 2>But listen to their music this week, and he'll live.

946
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<v Speaker 1>I'm aj Benz that That was your Daily Unfiltered podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>June eleventh, twenty twenty five. I'll talk to these tomorrow.
