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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>What else is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Time for what's happening? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as of this morning, the fire up in San

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<v Speaker 1>Bernardino County has burned through more than twenty thousand acres

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<v Speaker 1>and thousands of homes have had to be evacuated in

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<v Speaker 1>Running Springs, Highland Redlands. Even they believe about thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand structures remain threatened and there's a state of emergency

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<v Speaker 1>in place. They've called firefighters from all over the country

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<v Speaker 1>in the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm still like ninety degrees there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you mentioned earlier how terrifying it would be

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<v Speaker 1>to just leave and not know the fate of your home,

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<v Speaker 1>and how horrible that is. It is a wonderful site

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<v Speaker 1>for homeowners when they see the air attack on any fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, Steve Gregory will join us to see

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<v Speaker 1>where we stand when it comes to what's available for

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<v Speaker 1>us this firefighting season. California's life expectancy has dropped, ranking

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<v Speaker 1>tenth in the nation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but look at what it's dropped from from what

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<v Speaker 4>to what? This is like the headline doesn't necessarily leave

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<v Speaker 4>live up to the story, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it went from seventy seven years to seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>point four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what are you going to do with that point

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<v Speaker 4>six of a year that you're losing?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't waste time?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was quite the scene yesterday at Sofi Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, everyone's been waiting for the return of the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and people get a little too excited in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>They forget how to act, They forget what their alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>consumption or level that they are safely going to live

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<v Speaker 1>out their day in. People were wasted. It was hot,

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<v Speaker 1>it was humid. There were several calls all over the

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<v Speaker 1>stadium for fights and medics and all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 2>It was was ugly out there.

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<v Speaker 4>And what about on the field on this on the

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<v Speaker 4>field as well field near that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was it was very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just exciting to see the players care, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to that level and fight for it. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>out yeah, Joshua Palmer and Raiders safety Marcus Epps, those

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<v Speaker 1>were the first two. But Marcus EPs was going after

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer all game. I mean, he's getting away with stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and not being called on it, and so Palmer had

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<v Speaker 1>enough of it. And then Palmer's wide receiver room, Lad

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<v Speaker 1>McConkey and Quentin Johnston got in and they had his back,

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<v Speaker 1>which you want to see. Yes, fights are bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it's not a good example of your kids, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah. But when you see a team

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<v Speaker 1>rise to the occasion and fight for the guy next

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<v Speaker 1>to him, that's that pretends well for the season.

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<v Speaker 3>You would expect that, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy gets in a fight, they're going all the

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<v Speaker 4>other ten guys are going to sit there and just watch.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what I wanted to ask you and

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<v Speaker 4>tell people is like when you're on the sideline near

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<v Speaker 4>the line of scrimmage in a pro football game or

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<v Speaker 4>even a big time college game. It's incredible, right the

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<v Speaker 4>way they hit the first He doesn't translate on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Not it does not the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm forgetting his name, the running back that

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<v Speaker 1>that the Chargers running back? How am I forgetting his name?

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<v Speaker 1>But this was like seven years ago? Is my first game?

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<v Speaker 1>No running back before I was Tom Winson, No after.

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<v Speaker 3>At any rate, it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>To drive me insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll help you.

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<v Speaker 2>Melvin Gordon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, So Melvin Gordon takes a snap, he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield, takes a snap and hits the a gap

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<v Speaker 1>on the line of scrimmage and this which is the

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<v Speaker 1>sound in between the linemen who's trying to run in

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<v Speaker 1>between his linemen, right, and uh, the sound of the tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, and with the force that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was hit, I thought he was dead.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he was a pretty big guy to six

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched football my whole life. I've gone to games

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. But being on the sideline there and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that hit that close and the sound of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was going to get up. I thought it was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just a routine tackle, routine run. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a full speed car crash over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. And the other thing is is they move

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<v Speaker 1>so fast so that if you're right on the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>and the action's coming your way, you it's the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of sound. I mean, you have to a beat to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the way.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you had a son or a daughter, would

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<v Speaker 4>you let them play tackle football?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you thought about that?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I haven't, because that's an issue for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of a lot of parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I mean I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it get there's it's a give and take, right

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<v Speaker 1>because being on.

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<v Speaker 2>A team and playing game.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, we talked about that earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many advantages of that and for your whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take what you learned and the discipline in

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<v Speaker 1>and all of it and apply it to so many

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<v Speaker 1>different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, but you can get that on a lot of teams.

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<v Speaker 2>It is HiT's different. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you know, badminton. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, But no, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I know, but that that is a tough question

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<v Speaker 4>because it's a violent support and we hear so much

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<v Speaker 4>about concussions and we hear about There was a great piece.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you have access to the athletic

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I love the athletic.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this long.

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<v Speaker 4>Piece on Troy Aikman and how he, you know, won

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<v Speaker 4>all these games and won Super Bowls with a concussion

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<v Speaker 4>because this is you know, back in the day, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>get one of those ammonia capsules and sniffet and you're

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<v Speaker 4>right back in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Before they had all those you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, the neurologists on the sideline and at any rate,

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<v Speaker 4>so there's sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of this macho pride to taking.

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<v Speaker 4>A hit and you know, getting back in the game,

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<v Speaker 4>but you're risking your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Philip Rivers played with a torn acl through

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<v Speaker 1>that playoff game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know those kinds of stories. Of course, that's

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<v Speaker 4>different than a concussion, but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, all right, Phil.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like to do from time to time is

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<v Speaker 1>just make up a reason to bring Steve Gregory in here,

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<v Speaker 1>like pretend to care about whatever story he's covering, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just bring him in here to shoot the s.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that's a backhanded compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because we're friends. Yeah, And so I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen you in like over a week, and I missed you,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I.

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<v Speaker 5>Called you one day and I say, hey, what are

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<v Speaker 5>you doing? And you're like, I'm on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what do he want?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry? I'm like, I didn't realize it was allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>call you on vacation. Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We are friends. So I guess what what is it

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about today?

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<v Speaker 5>Phil had it all, he read it out, work for all.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very timely very professional.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very timely because we're talking fires and fire fighting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, today is the marks the thirty first anniversary of

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<v Speaker 5>the big yellow birds that have come come to roost

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<v Speaker 5>from the government of Quebec Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Canadians. They are so they are such

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<v Speaker 2>a nice people.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob just went to Canada and had nothing but good

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<v Speaker 1>things to say about the Canadians.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, And actually we're going to lose him to

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<v Speaker 5>Canadian pancake house.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to make syrup now and do tours.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants to do tours and he wants to drive

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<v Speaker 5>the ETV around all of the you know, the vineyards.

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<v Speaker 2>And right, no, I mean I said hi to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen him in a while either this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did about eighteen minutes on syrup and syrup

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<v Speaker 1>making and the nutritional benefits of syrup.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's about to marry into that family.

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<v Speaker 2>Different ways you can make syrup? Has he asked the question.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I thought this might have been here because there's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing more romantic than you know, syrup in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, yeah, you see, we're getting to that time. Jacob,

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<v Speaker 1>my husband found this out where we had been together

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<v Speaker 1>about four years and I started thinking that every trip,

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<v Speaker 1>every weekend, that was going to be the proposal, and

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<v Speaker 2>And then I started.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting real pissed off, real pissed off. Until we're in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico one time and there's tequila, and I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is wrong with you? What's taking so long?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you then you screw the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Up right talking about firefighting, Well, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>fire behind.

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<v Speaker 1>This because it's a forced engagement at that point, like

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't going to be something he did out of

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<v Speaker 1>his own volition. I basically held a gun to his

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<v Speaker 1>head and that's and then did he do it eventually?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Not then about a month after. Yeah, but you should

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<v Speaker 2>see the pre Yeah, you should see the preme up.

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<v Speaker 5>So the super Scoopers are back in La County and

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<v Speaker 5>they're here. Uh. And then, like I said, this is

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<v Speaker 5>the thirty first year. I had no idea. I mean, Phil,

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<v Speaker 5>you've you've beenized it long and and I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 5>either more than three decades. And there is something special

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<v Speaker 5>about looking at those two big yellow planes that are

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<v Speaker 5>only built for dropping water.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but we have in California. The budget is like

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred billion dollars. Why do we have to lease

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<v Speaker 4>planes from from Canada to fight fires?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is just a county thing. The state has

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<v Speaker 5>nothing to do with this particular agreement. And here's the

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<v Speaker 5>weird thing. And I think you probably back me up

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<v Speaker 5>on this. So other pilots I've talked to in the

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<v Speaker 5>air attack industry have said that the Super Scoopers are

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<v Speaker 5>more comfort oh really than they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Effective?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, Oh so it's I've heard that. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>that in the field too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where it's more. Oh, here's the Super Scoopers. Y. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>safety theater. Look, the Scoopers are here. We're all fine now.

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<v Speaker 5>But I would I would argue that the Chinooks, now,

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<v Speaker 5>those big double rotors that can carry three thousand callons,

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<v Speaker 5>the Super Scoopers can carry about sixteen hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 5>gallons apiece. There's two of them, and it takes them

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't know, Like I said, I've talked to

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<v Speaker 3>It was like the only thing they had at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>But as I mentioned, I've talked to some that say

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<v Speaker 5>perfect term for it. Would you say safety theater? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you who do you think you like more cops

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<v Speaker 3>I have no favorites.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a favorites if you had to choose.

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<v Speaker 5>They're all equal to me, all badges, all first responders,

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<v Speaker 4>So in this situation up in the highland, up in

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<v Speaker 4>that impact like the aerial attack? I mean you fly

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<v Speaker 3>The Sorry, I had to back up here because I want.

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<v Speaker 4>To look up something to ask you a real question.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, right, we've all been out there and seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they do they do fly like the DC

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<v Speaker 4>tens over and drop the fire retard.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>See, I'm looking up my super secret app here real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>That shows me all of the aerial attack and.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 5>That was because I'm looking at what kind of firepower

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<v Speaker 3>Fixed wing.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that when I looked it up a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit ago, that Sea one thirty from the state is

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's new.

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<v Speaker 5>That's new, that's brand new, just went into service last week,

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<v Speaker 5>and that has the capability of dropping thousands of gallons

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<v Speaker 5>of fire retardant. And so a fixed wing can get

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<v Speaker 5>in there and do advanced work, but they can't really

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<v Speaker 5>get close in there. And this terrain is incredibly steep, right,

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<v Speaker 5>It's very rugged, and that's why helicopters. A helicopters are

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<v Speaker 5>the best tool to attack that fire. And that's why

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<v Speaker 5>the chinnooks are really good because they can bring in

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<v Speaker 5>more liquid at once. The smaller aircraft have to go

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<v Speaker 5>back and retail obviously more frequently.

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<v Speaker 4>There's probably not a ton of sites out there to

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<v Speaker 4>refuel either. I mean, obviously there's huge lakes, but not

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<v Speaker 5>Lake Arrowhead is a big one fact. I'm looking right

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<v Speaker 5>now at one of the helicopters were feeling at Lake Arrowhead.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just wondering what the flight time is from Lake

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<v Speaker 3>Arahead to the fire line, not.

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<v Speaker 5>Far right there, because you've got running springs up there

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<v Speaker 5>that's being threatened.

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<v Speaker 3>But air attack.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, one of the cool things about being in

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<v Speaker 5>southern California, we still have the largest fleet of helicopters

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing makes me happier than seeing the air power over

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<v Speaker 1>a fire. I don't even care if it's a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what aircraft it is, but even if it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Safety theater, I love DC tens probably.

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<v Speaker 3>My Have you ever got foss check dumped on you? Sure?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's brutal, Yeah, yeah, and you got to be

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<v Speaker 5>careful because that's also very dangerous. Yeah, I mean because

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<v Speaker 5>the weight you could it could knock you down. Have

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<v Speaker 5>you ever seen what it does to a vehicle? It

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<v Speaker 5>can crush a vehicle at full power. Well, I've seen it,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, discolor of the vehicles I've never seen. No,

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<v Speaker 5>it took it took a while to get out of

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<v Speaker 5>my skin, and once it's fortunately it's non toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>I still look a little pink.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was asking I was asking Blake Trotlly about earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the firefighters have to be taking so many

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<v Speaker 4>breaks during this kind of heat because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>so intense for them. That's got to impact their ability

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<v Speaker 4>to fight these kind of fires. I mean from the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>it's got to be so much more difficult with the

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and a lot of times when they're up there,

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<v Speaker 5>like when you've got a strike crew or when you've

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<v Speaker 3>They have to.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's part of their training. And with those

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<v Speaker 5>temperatures being on the triple digits out there, the ground

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<v Speaker 5>temperature and that sort of manufactured temperature because of the

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<v Speaker 5>flames and the heat, they have to be very, very

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<v Speaker 5>careful and cautious. And that's why they have to helicopter

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<v Speaker 5>in resources too, water, protein, things of that nature. So

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<v Speaker 5>there's constantly sort of a steady stream of resources going

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<v Speaker 5>in to help those firefighters.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, that's all you needed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all we needed.

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