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<v Speaker 1>It's seven oh six here at fifty five krsee he

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<v Speaker 1>talks station Brian Thomas, please to welcome to the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five Krrise Morning show and he is live in studio

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<v Speaker 1>running for Cincinni City Council as a Republican Kevin Farmer. Man, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a pleasure to have you in studio this morning. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>goot a little bit closer to that micro.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, thank you, Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. Brian, Brian, that's okay. Last name Thomas,

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<v Speaker 3>that's okay. We just met for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will tell my listening audience one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>certainly came through right out of the gate. Kevin Farmer

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<v Speaker 1>is excited and an enthusiastic man. He is really really

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<v Speaker 1>geared up for this council run. And Kevin, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing because you got an ever growing field. I've

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<v Speaker 1>read this morning in the Inquirer, Scott Warman reported that

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<v Speaker 1>so far, forty one people have picked up petitions to

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<v Speaker 1>consider a council run.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a growing field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is a growing field. Man. What I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm official. I wanted a twelve because it's only

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<v Speaker 2>twelve that are efficiently right on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>Pulling the paper means one thing, but actually filing it

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<v Speaker 1>and running is a completely different choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's it's it's not. It's not easy to get

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<v Speaker 2>your signatures and I went, I got all my signatures myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no representatives to me. Okay, your lifelong resident

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<v Speaker 1>of the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I was. I was raised here since I was

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<v Speaker 2>about ten nine and a half, ten years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's long enough. What neighbor a one from the

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<v Speaker 1>day one? You know, So you know the challenges of

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Cincinnati faces. And let me just I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you one of the take to it. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with your background. I know you you're an independent

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<v Speaker 1>business man. You started doing business my accurately.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a small, small marketing firm that's called

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<v Speaker 2>Major Look Promotion. So we deal with PR and direct

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<v Speaker 2>marketing and uh, I've I've been fortunate to have great

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<v Speaker 2>a great client tail. When a great client that was

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<v Speaker 2>able to scale me where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's great. So you know about business, you know

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<v Speaker 1>about what it is. But you also had a troubled youth.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the greatest of circumstances for you growing up I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I said three sixty in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like I was explaining to you earlier, if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for if it wasn't for politics, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you I'll be in jail or I'll be dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're gonna have to explain that because somebody's going, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>politics saved your life.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's really the boiled down version of that. Politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was awarded to the States, so it was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>JFS was like my mother, and the next I got

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<v Speaker 2>to say, the courts was like my daddy. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was interesting because I had I had a

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<v Speaker 2>real father and mother, but we had some issues because

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<v Speaker 2>I had some issues. And then you know, with that aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>it literally morphed into what we say, having a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>so far with the courts that I've got a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Judge Burlue and God rests. So if nobody understands

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<v Speaker 2>Judge Burlue, he was an amazing and win my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That really showed me how things worked. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a lifelong Republican. Yeah, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>just being able to get some of his tutelite, being

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<v Speaker 2>able to get some of that grasp on politics early.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you had involvement in and and interaction as

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<v Speaker 1>a younger person with the criminal justice system and it

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<v Speaker 1>impacted you in a positive way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I knew. I knew early on. I

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the few fortunate that was able to listen,

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<v Speaker 2>so and being able to take information. I didn't listen

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<v Speaker 2>right away, it was just taking the information because it

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<v Speaker 2>was I knew that the system in politics controlled my

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<v Speaker 2>life at a young age. So it was like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>So when I got older, I knew where decision making

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<v Speaker 2>really was. That like when it came down to getting

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<v Speaker 2>policy pushed, or being able to change rules, or being

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<v Speaker 2>able to understand the rules that are accepted in society.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, given that the city of Cincinnati has been

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<v Speaker 1>dominated by Democrats now for the last forty years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your perception of Democrats the direction they've taken the

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<v Speaker 1>city Before we dive down into the specifics of the

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<v Speaker 1>current issues that are percolated percolating in the city of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>where you stand on those.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, I'm gonna be honest with you, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I hope. It's this sanctuary thing scares me fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>it scares me. And you know, to be out here

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<v Speaker 2>with elected officials. I understand, you gotta get votes, understand

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do what you gotta do to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to keep your job. But this, no king antics. This

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<v Speaker 2>we're we're not going to cut down on We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell law enforcement to cooperate with other law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement because we want this to be a I just

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<v Speaker 2>I pray that this don't turn into California. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>pray that this don't turn into California. Right now, we

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<v Speaker 2>have an issue when we are in sanctuary. You pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much were going to that's an asylum for crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I appreciate your refreshing outlook on that. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, looking at the police department generally speaking. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you familiar with former Vice Mayor Christopher Smithman.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes with my program every money. He does what

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<v Speaker 1>we call this smither vent. He vents his spleen. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love Christopher. I mean, he's a good friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a real common sense outlook on things. But

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<v Speaker 1>he is upset focusing on law enforcement and considering you

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<v Speaker 1>had a good outcome as a consequence of getting involved

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<v Speaker 1>or having to be involved with law enforcement, being in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a judge, being a ward of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. For you to come out the other

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<v Speaker 1>side and be thankful for that process transforming your life

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<v Speaker 1>and turning your life around. That is a refreshing alternative

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<v Speaker 1>from what we typically hear from like leaders in the

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<v Speaker 1>black community, for example, that the police sucker, a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of racists. We want to reform them, we want them

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<v Speaker 1>out of our neighborhood. It doesn't sound like you come

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<v Speaker 1>from that particular cut of the political swath there.

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<v Speaker 2>What I understand what police officers and talking to police

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<v Speaker 2>officers is they're really doing their job. Now, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into the now. This new judicial system we have and

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<v Speaker 2>this prosecution system on top of that, because we got

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<v Speaker 2>these new people are retiring the oldest and not to say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my seniors, I love my seniors, they are retiring

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<v Speaker 2>and same in CPD when you fun fact, I was

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<v Speaker 2>explaining to people that almost every week there are people

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<v Speaker 2>retiring out of CPD as we speak, and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough to replace them because we have people not

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<v Speaker 2>joining the academy. The outlook, what it looks like in

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<v Speaker 2>the police force here is just makes people not wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to join.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, career law enforcement's a tough thing to divide off.

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<v Speaker 2>Just everywhere now in this country, it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 2>looked good upon in this woke society to be a cop.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when like I said back to me, talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the officers, the job is getting done.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the follow through.

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<v Speaker 2>We're rewarding bad behavior and a lack of accountability. Murderers

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<v Speaker 2>are pleading up to eight years off off. I can

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<v Speaker 2>they know who's killing We know who's the killers out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They know it's like, but they can. They can sentence

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<v Speaker 2>individuals for drug cases. The thing near thirty years. Then

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<v Speaker 2>you got a person out here for two murders out

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<v Speaker 2>here and the next thing only get please out.

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<v Speaker 3>For eight Yeah, that's it's hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a judicial system that needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be fixed. Policing is policing. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>need more personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's a downward spiral.

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<v Speaker 1>If the police officers know, if they through the process

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<v Speaker 1>and the energy and all the paperwork to arrest somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and the judicial system the judge at the end is

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna let him go back out on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Why bother doing my job. That's kind of a fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>point that's going through the police department. That's where the

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<v Speaker 1>morale is down. It makes no sense. Why would I engage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not worth my time in forcing the curfews pointless.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just gonna be let out.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's and that's the trouble because we have

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<v Speaker 2>liberal judges and I ain't gonna give names, but we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of liberal judges now and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of judges that are afraid to be able to make

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<v Speaker 2>tough decisions on individuals because they fear, for whatever circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>to lose their seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as a council person, and you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>elected or so we'll say when you're elected, Kevin Farmer

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<v Speaker 1>vote Kevinfarmer dot COM's website.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you, at least going back to.

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<v Speaker 1>My point about Christopher Smithman, he wishes council members and

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor would be more outspoken and supportive of law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be an outspoken critic and demand justice in

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<v Speaker 1>the on the judicial side, would you be out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rattling sabers and raising the issue to the

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<v Speaker 1>citizens of the city of Sinceinna that we need judges

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<v Speaker 1>who will uphold the law.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out there with my megaphone now, Yes, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>the megaphone and let's get it. Let's get it. What

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<v Speaker 2>we say in my in my culture, let's get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Popping there you are, We'll continue fifty five Karracity Talk

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<v Speaker 1>Station are very happy Tuesday to you. Kevin Farmer in

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<v Speaker 1>studio running for since City Council as a Republican vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevinfarmer dot com is his website. You can donate to

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign, get behind him, and of course, uh pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of the Hamilton kind of Republican party to endorse you, right, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, all advocacy right now helps with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, let me just pose a question to you

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<v Speaker 1>that I asked you off air, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black man growing up in Avondale, you feel you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Cincinnati, which has been voting Democrat for

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<v Speaker 1>the last forty years. You hear someone like President Biden

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<v Speaker 1>of all people say something to the effect of, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't vote Democrat, you ain't black.

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<v Speaker 3>What's been in your.

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<v Speaker 1>Experience over the course of your life, snce you are Republican,

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy engaging in these conversations. You feel pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>vote Democrat or have you felt like this, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdo in the room. For whatever reason, you got

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<v Speaker 1>your logical and your reasonable, articulable ideas about why you're

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<v Speaker 3>You like to talk to people about it. But what's

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<v Speaker 3>it like in that environment for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I got, like I explained to you earlier, Brian Man,

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<v Speaker 2>oh Man, I embrace the smoke. I embrace this pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a term that they say, and I might be

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<v Speaker 2>messing it up, but I'm gonna paraphrase it. Strong men

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<v Speaker 2>create peace times. Peace times create weak men. Ooh, weak

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<v Speaker 2>men create bad times, and bad times create strong men.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a circular process going on there. Yeah, we're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Some bad times. And I look at it. When chaotic

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<v Speaker 2>moments come, you see that, you see who comes out

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<v Speaker 2>and I apologize using these oka these parables and quotes,

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<v Speaker 2>when you misuse people because we all in it, we understand,

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<v Speaker 1>Well in misuse, I think occurs in large part Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>at least, you know, paint with the broad brush here.

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<v Speaker 1>So offer government as a mechanism to give people stuff

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<v Speaker 1>although you and I both agree there's nothing free, but

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<v Speaker 1>paying the taxpayer dollars that support these programs. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious component of Democrats' philosophy from my standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I say, I put it into the analogy

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<v Speaker 2>almost like Heroin. It's it's the handout. Is like, in

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<v Speaker 2>the black community, is our heroin. So when you take

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<v Speaker 2>it away, especially how Democrats play the game, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>the dealer. They they're dealing that, they're dealing, the free that,

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<v Speaker 2>they're dealing, the free programs, everything the heroin to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we take it away, when they say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all taking it away, they taking it away, They taking

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<v Speaker 3>The Republic is not taking it away from you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't sell it to you, no mo oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the withdrawals, you see the withdrawal because everything because

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on heroin, and it's sad to say I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen people who has had the withdrawals being able

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<v Speaker 2>to be off. You can't just take them right off.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta have some type of other substitute. So they're like, okay, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give you another program, We'll give you another fix.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling and I and this is hard appeal

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<v Speaker 2>to swallow. In my community. This is your last fix.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over. It's over. It's time to recover and heal.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to do that because there is a

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<v Speaker 2>too much fraud, waste, and abuse and a lack of

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<v Speaker 2>integrity in my community that needs to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like you, Kevin Farmer, have a profound understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the fiscal realities of what we're facing these days. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no endless draw for cash to dive on into to

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<v Speaker 1>sustain this. We are on an unsustainable trajectory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's leading into it, it's leading into more. What we

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<v Speaker 2>call it is just blaming out corruption. I'm anti corruption.

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<v Speaker 2>I might be radical, but I'm man. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm like a bloodhound for corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate that. Enthusiastic absolutely one after corruption. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll continue more with Kevin Farmer. Vote Kevin Farmer dot

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<v Speaker 1>COM's website at seven twenty five right now if you

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<v Speaker 1>have krc DE talk station seven thirty. If if you have

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<v Speaker 1>KRCD talk station. I feel like I made a friend

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. Kevin Farmer run for since a city council

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiastic man he is. I like what he has to

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<v Speaker 1>say so far about the problems inherent in the system.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that he's running as a Republican. I consider

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<v Speaker 1>myself a little libertarian. You know my bottom line philosophies.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust you with you, Zipper, and I trust you

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<v Speaker 1>with your wallet. I don't want your money to spend

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<v Speaker 1>it on what I want to spend on. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to spend it on what you want to spend on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't care what you're doing behind closed doors. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm done fixing me, that's when I'll come after you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that'll never happen, because never ever done fixing the

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<v Speaker 1>man in the mirror. But beyond that republic you are running,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for an endorsement from the Hamilton kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Republican party to wish you luck on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let us focus on zoning.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, all right, City Cincinnati says you all all the neighborhoods,

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<v Speaker 1>including your neighborhood. Yes, sorry, connected communities period. Here you

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<v Speaker 1>get connected communities, you must build dense housing. And no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whatever connected communities means. Everybody gets it. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a say in your own neighborhood. Oh but

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<v Speaker 1>along comes a well connected developer in Hyde Park and says, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to build this monstrous, monstrous thing completely change

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamic of Hyde Park in the square. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the residents of Hyde Park don't want this. They've all

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<v Speaker 1>come out in opposition against it, but I want it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a well.

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<v Speaker 1>Connected developer since a city council gives them a waiver

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<v Speaker 1>over the connected communities mandate that they didn't ask anybody

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<v Speaker 1>if they wanted and says, sorry, citizens of Hyde Park,

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks to be you. The well connected developer gets

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<v Speaker 1>what it wants. Now it's on the ballot. The citizens

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<v Speaker 1>of Hyde Park rose up.

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<v Speaker 2>And we pray that this special meeting doesn't take place,

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<v Speaker 2>that they re retract things.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what that's gonna happen. Oh man, it can it

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<v Speaker 3>can it can?

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<v Speaker 2>But will it? That seems like some political suicide. I

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<v Speaker 2>would like to see it not to happen, because why

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<v Speaker 2>you want us to vote on it? They should have

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<v Speaker 2>never took place. In the first line, if I was

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<v Speaker 2>a city council member, I would have been it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been what three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I could have lobbied for the other two.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have been. I could have had the megaphone

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<v Speaker 2>out been lobbying for the other two. And this we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even been here right now talking about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think it's going to impact on council racist November?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I keep thinking of my friends in

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park predominantly Democrat. I understand this is the way

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<v Speaker 1>they typically vote. But they got stabbed in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a failure of representative government period. They did

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<v Speaker 1>what they wanted on counciled with the exception of Jan

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<v Speaker 1>Kearney and who is Scottie Johnson. Johnson they said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you wuld have been number three, saying though.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we would have lobbied for the two. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have had my megaphone. Then I would have had

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<v Speaker 2>my other you know, Scotti and Jan. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>conveyed the other two Democrats, because you know, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a lonely if I'm a lonely Republican, I gotta sway.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I would have been able to manage

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<v Speaker 2>that because the people would have hurt me. The people

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<v Speaker 2>would have hurt me. We got eighteen thousand plus petitions

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<v Speaker 2>in the city of Cincinnati, that's fifty two communities. Eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand registered voters came and said, hey, we're gonna this

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's morphin showed up at the primary to

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<v Speaker 1>actually vote, show up and show out exactly. But would

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<v Speaker 1>you tell you what Going back to the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>connected communities, the one size fits all approach, with the

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<v Speaker 1>exception of Hyde Park and Bond Hill. Would you vote

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<v Speaker 1>to repeal connected communities given that you know, you sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a man who is is desirous of neighborhood direction

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<v Speaker 1>and control, local direction and control over development as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to one size fits all from city council.

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<v Speaker 2>People first, government last. Community is part of people. So

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<v Speaker 2>if community says no, we can't, we can't oversee community.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't go against them. We can't go against people.

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<v Speaker 2>Government has stepped stepped their line. They just crossed the line.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you're doing too much, and that's what we say,

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<v Speaker 2>our young folks say you're doing too much, and now

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<v Speaker 2>they became ops ops oppositions. Now we don't need elected

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<v Speaker 2>officials to go against community and people. And that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and well, and you need strong leaders to engage

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<v Speaker 1>members of the community to get them to step up

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<v Speaker 1>unlike you and me who have been involved with and

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<v Speaker 1>interested in politics our whole lives, I don't think most

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<v Speaker 1>people have the time and day to even lift a

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<v Speaker 1>finger to care about politics. They got their day to

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<v Speaker 1>day lives to live. They're dealing with their own issues

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<v Speaker 1>and concerns, and of course they got a binge watch

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<v Speaker 1>at whatever show on Netflix they're watching. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time for politics. And that's how I think bad things

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<v Speaker 2>And because we have a sit down mentality, Yeah, that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the crazy thing is people has been people in

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<v Speaker 2>this city, just really in this nation has been played

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<v Speaker 2>like chumps, chumps, and because they have positioned us to

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<v Speaker 2>sit down now, so we have a sit down mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that sit down mentality, they'll have you sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in and anywhere. And how does it feel to be

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<v Speaker 2>city in it? Actually cashtraights, you're right there, of being

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you know the other side of the coin

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<v Speaker 1>is people are engaged. If they're engaged politically, on the

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<v Speaker 1>left hand side of the ledger, they're out there throwing

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<v Speaker 1>frozen water bottles at ice agents for doing their job.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next that's where we call the manipulation of

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<v Speaker 2>bad action, because what they're doing is manipulating people to oh,

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<v Speaker 2>no what.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is because my perception is, like, let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at the crime generally speaking, support of the police department.

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<v Speaker 3>Generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>My perception is, and you know others have echoed it

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<v Speaker 1>and said, yeah, you're right, Brian police officers, Smitheman, and others.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think if I'm in any given neighborhood in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Cincinnati, let's say your neighborhood Avondale, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I got a problem with crime, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>want more cops around. I wouldn't be wanting to defund

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<v Speaker 1>think the police presence would be a welcome thing. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that your Is that your belief right there? We do

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<v Speaker 1>welcome the police. We want we want more presents.

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<v Speaker 2>What the problem is we just the person Now we

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<v Speaker 2>have only nine hundred and fifty fifty five officers. So

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<v Speaker 2>like quote unquote the chief, they all they can never

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<v Speaker 2>have enough officers to want to be that.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's a practice problem that can be addressed if

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<v Speaker 1>we support the police, we embrace them as a concept.

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<v Speaker 1>We make that job sound like it's a great a

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<v Speaker 1>career choice for people we do lateral hires, which they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see we get the numbers back up. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I see is the squeaky wheel always gets the grease,

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<v Speaker 1>and these loud, angry anti police people take to the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and it creates this fake perception that that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what your community wants. They want the police out of

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood. And I say, no, there's no way that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the average Joe or Jane in the community wants.

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<v Speaker 3>That.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they don't. And I've and I was once tricked

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<v Speaker 2>on that, on that opposition too, to be able to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need police.

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<v Speaker 3>That's years I had a I was tricked.

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<v Speaker 2>They they they use me like the individual to make

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<v Speaker 2>myself go after individuals who didn't even need to go

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<v Speaker 2>after because they wanted to be able to manipulate the narrative. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's how the Democratic Party moves. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>and when you wake up, you be like, dang, dang,

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<v Speaker 2>my community is looking excuse my French sush.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah again, a giant dump button. I know what you

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<v Speaker 3>met though I know it.

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<v Speaker 2>And when it looks were we're like dang, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>something has to give.

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<v Speaker 1>All right out loud voices in support of the police,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is what we need, and that was that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be exactly what you get with Kevin Farmer. Vote Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Farmer dot com. We'll continue with Kevin now of time

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<v Speaker 1>in this segment seven thirty eight right now fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>ker City Talk Station and I can save you three

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<v Speaker 1>seven forty three I think five Kerr City Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 1>You stu a long segment, the last one, uh here

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<v Speaker 1>with Kevin Farmer. He's running for since I City Council.

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<v Speaker 1>Vote Kevinfarmer dot com. You're all about transparency. I see

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<v Speaker 1>that in big bold letters right there on your website

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<v Speaker 1>about your priorities.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your what?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>What? What do you believe to be the failure of

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<v Speaker 3>city government? Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Farmer the red tape you can't. The thing is

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<v Speaker 2>people don't have real We have accessibility to your politicians

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<v Speaker 2>when they're on election during election, but you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>accessibility when this like when I need to come to

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<v Speaker 2>see us city hall, right, it's always someone sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>a desk that is normally mean or or literally so distracted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just not a it's just not a

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<v Speaker 2>like a friendly relationship. And if it is, it's always this,

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<v Speaker 2>what's this in regards to? What's this in regards to?

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<v Speaker 2>I get tired of hearing that? And then we know

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<v Speaker 2>that we know that your elected officials is sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the office. They need to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know what have observed And you know Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Zenzer or Citizen Watchdog, and he's spent on my program

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few times. He follows the Antixas City Hall

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<v Speaker 1>when they have open opportunities for citizens to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and speak on any given issue. Council members are never

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. They're looking at their smartphones and they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>doodles or drawings, and it's as if they just outright

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<v Speaker 1>and are intentionally rude to people offering their thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>impressions on any given topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Two minutes and they don't respond back unless they want to.

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<v Speaker 2>And that irks it just it just plays with people emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you play with people emotions and you are

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<v Speaker 2>doing this and like you say, looking in your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at to the point like I don't really care,

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<v Speaker 2>don't care you, you get people upset well. And and

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<v Speaker 2>we're at a time right now that this has been

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<v Speaker 2>taking place, and now we have to set we have

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<v Speaker 2>to set new We have to put new things in

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<v Speaker 2>place to be able to have that open transparency. And

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<v Speaker 2>that open transparency is not what this is in regards

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<v Speaker 2>to not what uh uh we'll get back, we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>back with you and not get back with you, and

484
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<v Speaker 2>or we need to see what's going on. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to stream politicians akaisanai stream politicians, put them under the microscope.

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<v Speaker 2>If we can do officers that same way, can we

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<v Speaker 2>put it like me, I'll be the first to take

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<v Speaker 2>the body camp. I'll be the first. I'll open it

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<v Speaker 2>up for everybody. They'll be saying, you don't, I'll volunteer,

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<v Speaker 2>ill volunteer. You'll just be you're gonna We're gonna stream my, my, my, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we say thirty hours a week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all out in the open.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to Kevin Farmer, one more segment with

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin forty Parts Company. We'll get the bright part inside

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<v Speaker 1>scoop after the top of the our news. It's seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty five right now in studio, the full hour. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>my conversation. I'm certainly enjoying the enthusiasm in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>that Kevin Farmer's coming from again. Vote Kevinfarmer dot comas's website.

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<v Speaker 1>You run for since a city council as a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>at pivoting back now, I know we address the crime issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I think and you agree, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the blame lies that the feat of the judicial

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<v Speaker 1>system for not meeting out punishments and letting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>murderers out on the street and zero bond for dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>offenders and you know, slap on the wrist for anything,

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<v Speaker 1>or just outright letting people go like for curfew violations.

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<v Speaker 1>But pivoting back over to the cause. We seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a downward spiral in America generally, but most notably.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it in the crime stats in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>What is with young people? We got these massive crowds

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, teenagers gathering together. Dude, if I was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old and the police interacted me with at

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<v Speaker 1>three o'clock in the morning, my dad would have tanned

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<v Speaker 1>my hide. I mean, hell would have would have been

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<v Speaker 1>to pay at home for that. That's why it never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'm just wondering what is going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the world that we would have random individuals grab

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<v Speaker 1>a firearm and just shoot into a crowd of people. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell does that have to do with a

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<v Speaker 1>deteriorating community? What does that have to do with Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, these services haven't been around, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go start shooting into a crowd of people. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see a connect between the systemic problems that are claimed

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<v Speaker 1>by so many people to exist, like systemic racism or

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<v Speaker 1>deprivation of goods and services in any given community, how

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<v Speaker 1>that translates into outright gun violence on the street where

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<v Speaker 1>it's young black men.

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<v Speaker 3>They're dying as a consequence of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're in this. We're in a sanctuary city. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's anything you see sanctuary or see where you

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<v Speaker 2>can't law enforcement can't help each other. It's we're in

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<v Speaker 2>a dangerous we're in a dangerous area.

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<v Speaker 1>So the sanctuary part, which relates to illegal immigrants, is

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<v Speaker 1>a component of not enforcing the law.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not going to enforce the law, that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to enforce the law anywhere. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>and and with our kids now, with the youth is now,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't feel safe. It is not we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a gun problem with that's what the that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats say.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it is so many guns.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't have we have a people problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and people problem comes because we have a government problem,

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<v Speaker 2>because it exceeds people. And when government is in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you, I just say vote for farmer. Pumpa bump, bump, bump.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the change that you need is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come at the ballot box. None of the reforms

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<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned during this hour discussion and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the open door policy, the transparency, and we haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>gotten into the fact that the mayor and apparently share

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<v Speaker 1>along the uh the uh, they had this freedom and

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<v Speaker 1>ability to sort of write a check to any non

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<v Speaker 1>governmental organization that's out there claiming to want to help

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<v Speaker 1>solve a problem. There's no transparency when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to be kind of friends of government.

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<v Speaker 1>So getting at your foot in the door and changing

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<v Speaker 1>the makeup of counsel will provide that vehicle and that

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for people to maybe have a say or we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta dulge it.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to that. We got I told you there's

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<v Speaker 2>too much fraud, wasted abuse, and the lack of integrity,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in my community. Yeah, and so we have it

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<v Speaker 2>down in city Hall too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, on one component of that, I again going back

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<v Speaker 1>to Tod Zinser and his observations and others. Apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor and most of the council is obsessed with green

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<v Speaker 1>the whole climate change. They want to allocate tons of

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<v Speaker 1>resources and money to green projects and green programs. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you inclined to want to continue down that road or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think there's more important things for the city

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<v Speaker 1>to address.

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<v Speaker 2>We way more important. We don't have the money. And

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<v Speaker 2>my thing is it's not we don't when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to the importance of what the city needs, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like what like how Corey Bowman said, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>strip it to the bare bones. We need to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to go into the whole budget to see we're

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary waste, fraud and abuses is lying and we have

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of it. We have to. We have to,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to clean up. We have to clean up

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<v Speaker 2>the books because we got people that can't. We got

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<v Speaker 2>retirees that's never gonna get paid. We got individuals, we

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<v Speaker 2>we got individuals, We got nonprofits in this that are

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<v Speaker 2>getting money that aren't getting that aren't doing the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone that gets money from the city should literally have

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<v Speaker 2>to do extra. You have to have you have to

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<v Speaker 2>we have a gun, we have a crime issue. And

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<v Speaker 2>with that crime issue, you're not out. You're getting money

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<v Speaker 2>from the city and you're not What where you at?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>The non level organizations promise they're going to fix the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with crime and they take the money, and you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of they disappear, like where is the transparency, where's

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<v Speaker 1>the the work product, where's the report from that organization

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<v Speaker 1>showing what they have accomplished. The money trail just ends

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<v Speaker 1>after the check gets written. It seems it disappears.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like when it disappears, it sounds like money laundering.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a little bit of that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna I'm not going to cause out some conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Please to speculate, is there, just like the class trail,

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<v Speaker 1>come back into somebody's campaign coffers? Are they out there

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<v Speaker 1>working the streets for some politician that gave him money?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's getting whose beak is getting wet? And with that said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not We're with that. We're seeing the chaotic moments

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<v Speaker 2>coming coming off of that. Yeah, and with these chaotic

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<v Speaker 2>moments happening, I just question, I question where is the

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<v Speaker 2>money being spent and used and is it being used

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<v Speaker 2>properly exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you need transparency to know that. And right now

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any Kevin Farmer or It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>real pleasure having you in studio. Vote Kevinfarmer dot com

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<v Speaker 1>where you find his website, maybe help out his campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking forward to hopefully you getting a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party endorsement. Kevin putting the word out. We'll see what happens. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have some engagement by the Republican Party here in

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<v Speaker 1>the county. It's almost as if someone pulled the flag

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<v Speaker 1>out and left and moved to Claremont County or something. Kevin, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you the best. It's been a real fun

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<v Speaker 1>having a conversation with this morning and you're welcome here

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifty five krsee morning show as we get

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the election day.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and remember this audience. Hey, I'm Kevin Farmer from

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<v Speaker 2>the community for my hood. And remember November fourth

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<v Speaker 3>I see you at the post, Yes you will, seven

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six right now, fifty