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Speaker 6: Operation g c D with an Operation GCD invasion of
Speaker 6: the Occult Rejects. Here with a fellow occult reject Julia
Speaker 6: from the Cosmic Peach podcast, and of course Neck the
Speaker 6: host of The Occult Rejects.
Speaker 4: It's going on.
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Speaker 7: Thank you very much, thanks for having me. Guys.
Speaker 6: Well this this conversation kind of grew over conversation we
Speaker 6: had last week right on the Ocult Rejects.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's quite dropped yet.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah, it's like a preview. Actually, I think
Speaker 4: it will drop next Wednesday or something like that.
Speaker 6: I was, you know, let's say, let's go, let's go
Speaker 6: ahead and tease that episode, because that's gonna be a
Speaker 6: good conversation for folks to check out as well. And
Speaker 6: if folks of the interwebs are not familiar with Tuesday, Well,
Speaker 6: this this name came up in a conversation last week
Speaker 6: about a cult Elvis.
Speaker 2: Tuesday.
Speaker 6: Well when when Julia brought it up in the conversation
Speaker 6: and asked me if by new Tuesday, Well, I simply replied,
Speaker 6: one of my favorite people in the entire universe, because
Speaker 6: I love because I'm pro Tuesday. It was because she's
Speaker 6: connected to everything I love.
Speaker 7: How you say, not because I'm pro.
Speaker 6: Tuesday, I'm not for Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no me either.
Speaker 3: Me either.
Speaker 7: But she's somebody that I've actually I've mentioned several times
Speaker 7: in previous episodes. I actually the first time I talked
Speaker 7: about her on my show was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7: So is definitely, you know, do for a refresher, just
Speaker 7: for even people who listen to my show, because you know,
Speaker 7: I just assume that every everyone knows about her, because
Speaker 7: I did do an episode on her a couple of
Speaker 7: years ago, but it's been so long, you know, you'd
Speaker 7: have to dig through, you know, hundreds of episodes to
Speaker 7: get to that one. So I'm kind of excited to
Speaker 7: revitalize it today and make it more well known for
Speaker 7: people who haven't heard of her. So we're throwing down
Speaker 7: on Tuesday on a Monday. So this is gonna be.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be it Monday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Right, And Nick, you had no idea Tuesday will
Speaker 6: was when this came up during that show, right, I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, I think Tuesday's done a great job of
Speaker 6: playing you know, laying beneath.
Speaker 7: Flamelow, under the radar of the public.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: It was the only time I had ever really heard
Speaker 4: about her?
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 4: I think, like one time Lisa for some reason, and
Speaker 4: she can't remember why she was looking into somehow she
Speaker 4: was she was related to Joe Rogan, she had heard somewhere.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, like weird, like you know, who knows
Speaker 4: if it's true, But like that was the only time
Speaker 4: I really ever heard of Tuesday. Well, that had no
Speaker 4: idea who she really is. Though.
Speaker 7: If that's true, I'm gonna ship my whole entire pants.
Speaker 6: Well, I can't, I can't believe I haven't done Joe
Speaker 6: Rogan's family tree.
Speaker 2: Yet that's it's shocking to me. As much Joe Rogan
Speaker 2: stuff as I've done.
Speaker 7: It wouldn't surprise me. But you know, somebody that I've
Speaker 7: worked with a few times, I think nick has two
Speaker 7: is uh Sean McCann. Yes, And he knew so much
Speaker 7: about Tuesday and he and I talked about her together,
Speaker 7: and so I just want to give him a quick
Speaker 7: shout out because he dropped some stuff into my life
Speaker 7: about her that I didn't even know about that I
Speaker 7: included in this presentation. So before I get started, I
Speaker 7: just want to say shout out to him too, because
Speaker 7: he's looked into her and found some really crazy stuff.
Speaker 7: But well, if you've ever seen a picture of her.
Speaker 6: But well, man interject real quick. Yeah, before we describe
Speaker 6: who is Tuesday Wild? How did you just like you're saying,
Speaker 6: Sean McCann has done podcasts on this too. Now, I
Speaker 6: haven't heard anyone talk about Tuesday well since Adam Go rightly,
Speaker 6: sirka two thousand and seven something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So Sean McCann.
Speaker 2: That's old conversation used to be with.
Speaker 7: Her, right, I'm not sure when it dropped into his
Speaker 7: you know, periphery for him to start looking into it.
Speaker 7: But I found her looking into Laurel Canyon because she
Speaker 7: is a big sixties counterculture person. And then I had
Speaker 7: mentioned her in passing to Sean and he was like,
Speaker 7: oh shit, you know, I know so much about her,
Speaker 7: and then we did an episode on her together. But
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if you've ever seen a picture of her, nick,
Speaker 7: but she is like the proverbial Madonna, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield,
Speaker 7: big blue eyes, blonde hair, she looks like a Barbie doll. Essentially,
Speaker 7: she could all.
Speaker 2: Those things, right, She could have been bigger than all
Speaker 2: those stars, right.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, it seems like she fits that that archetype. Yeah.
Speaker 7: There she goes with Jack Nicholson. You'll see her hanging around.
Speaker 7: It's like she's everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
Speaker 7: You know, she's everywhere for those who know where she is,
Speaker 7: but nowhere to people that are familiar with sixties counterculture.
Speaker 7: When you look back on it, you're like, oh, like
Speaker 7: I said, Jane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, whoever, whoever was big
Speaker 7: during that time, She's sitting right here next to Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 7: It's like, who is this person? If you saw this picture,
Speaker 7: you wouldn't even know who she was.
Speaker 2: But she's everywhere fan girl, right right, right?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I first this.
Speaker 6: Is when they did a movie together. I think this
Speaker 6: was nineteen seventy two, that did a film together. If
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken, I don't. I don't remember which one
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 7: I remember which one it was. I think I have
Speaker 7: it in my notes for later.
Speaker 6: But she's been in Hollywood since she was a little girl, right,
Speaker 6: she was about what's seven years old, I believe.
Speaker 7: When she started the Yeah, yeah, she was really really young.
Speaker 7: And I guess in order to understand why she's significant
Speaker 7: in what role she plays in this weird society of
Speaker 7: famous people, you kind of almost have to go back
Speaker 7: in time and look at her family, Right, who are
Speaker 7: the Weld's, What where did she come from? Why is
Speaker 7: she special? You know? Xyz? And it turns out, actually
Speaker 7: at the Weld family is really really old family. They
Speaker 7: came over on the Mayflower type shit, you know, one
Speaker 7: of the very first families. They came to America in
Speaker 7: the sixteen hundreds from England, and the Weld family is
Speaker 7: actually an extended family of the Boston Brahmin family. The
Speaker 7: name Brahmin might sound familiar to people who are listening
Speaker 7: to this. Brahmin is kind of like one of those
Speaker 7: really old families that kind of run everything. They're like
Speaker 7: the Boston elite, if you will, the Brahmin family. So
Speaker 7: the Welds are an extension of the Boston Brahmins, and
Speaker 7: the Welds are actually the ones who helped start Harvard
Speaker 7: University as a gift. They were given by the royal family.
Speaker 7: The Weld family was given rocks Bury, Massachusetts and like, uh,
Speaker 7: Jamaica plane, it's all weld land and yeah, basically so
Speaker 7: you got this weird Boston kind of with the Brahmans,
Speaker 7: but also like most of Massachusetts has turned to like
Speaker 7: weld land.
Speaker 6: Sure, and they started that all on a mound there
Speaker 6: in Jamaica plane called Ni Hill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, freaking mound builder weirdness.
Speaker 6: Right, So she the line connections to the Society of Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: Well, she's related to the governor of Massachusetts, which was
Speaker 7: William Weld. And if you go all the way back
Speaker 7: in time, right the thirteen hundreds is the earliest recorded
Speaker 7: members of the Weld family. They're all like sheriffs in London.
Speaker 7: Some of them are knights uh shit like that.
Speaker 6: And then they started some old school Celtic stuff though, right,
Speaker 6: like the ancient king Satara, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: So I think they were I don't know if it
Speaker 7: was in the thirteen hundreds or when they came over
Speaker 7: on the Mayflower, but they were Protestant. But after they
Speaker 7: got over here they sort of kind of like integrated
Speaker 7: their power into religiosity and a lot of them converted
Speaker 7: to Catholicism and became like Jesuit priests. So there's so
Speaker 7: many layers to this. And actually John B. Weld and
Speaker 7: Alfred Weld, to be specific, they were Jesuit priests, and
Speaker 7: Alfred was known to be a Jesuit priest, an astronomer,
Speaker 7: and the administrator for the Society of Jesus. So it's
Speaker 7: like I said, it's like if you go even all
Speaker 7: the way back.
Speaker 6: There an administrator there that wasn't even just a member.
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm not just a member, I'm the president.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like sheriffs, knights, Jesuit priests, administrators for the
Speaker 7: Society of Jesus. You got astronomers, Boston elite, the Brahmin family.
Speaker 7: I mean, the Welds are nuts you got governors. They
Speaker 7: own most of Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, from they were the infamous incident between Bill Weld
Speaker 6: and Whitey Bulger's brother, the governor pointed out, so that
Speaker 6: is a cousin of hers. He also descends from Eliza Weld.
Speaker 6: So Eliza Weld was a colonel in the Revolution. They're
Speaker 6: on the the Weld Mound there in Jamaica Plains. In
Speaker 6: fact that the weld manor there on Weld Hill served
Speaker 6: as an operations headquarters for the Massachusetts contenent of the Revolution.
Speaker 6: So they're very very integral, very integral. That was basically
Speaker 6: you know, headquarters in operations center.
Speaker 7: Right, they're like founding fathers and stuff.
Speaker 6: Like they're damn near like yeah, close to the leveled
Speaker 6: down wow, Because as far as mass CH's is concerned,
Speaker 6: I mean they're they were a major again as you
Speaker 6: pointed out that they were the religious heads with the
Speaker 6: starting Harvard because that started as a religious school. And
Speaker 6: then they were the military heads because they weren't generals.
Speaker 6: But you know, they're the ones that ran their house
Speaker 6: was run you know, they run everything out of their house,
Speaker 6: you know, and whatever that mound was they operated. The
Speaker 6: rest of their friends all thought it was important for
Speaker 6: some reason.
Speaker 7: Well, of course it goes all the way back to
Speaker 7: ancient history, doesn't it, with the mound builders and all
Speaker 7: of that.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean even within that family, probably even you know,
Speaker 6: maybe even a different track, because I believe those ancient
Speaker 6: kings of Tar or they claimed to be descended from,
Speaker 6: they used to be crowned on a mound over there
Speaker 6: right the hill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And wasn't like Jeppel Island supposed to be. There
Speaker 7: was something built on a mound or Am I making
Speaker 7: it up?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: The Rockefellers another society family out of society, Cincinnati family
Speaker 6: out of New York, the New York chap Or. They owned,
Speaker 6: they owned the uh, the Indian Mound Cottage down there.
Speaker 2: Where the secret meetings were held for the rituals.
Speaker 7: That's what I thought, That's what I thought.
Speaker 6: It was just one of the magic that we call
Speaker 6: the Federal Reserve. It's definitely it's always mound stuff with
Speaker 6: these people. And that's what I'm saying, Like I was
Speaker 6: gonna call it the hill Kamara, but I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 6: that I'm thinking in my head, that's that's Mormon stuff.
Speaker 2: That's Mormon stuff.
Speaker 6: The hill, the hill Tara is the is the ancient
Speaker 6: is a place over there in Ireland where they the
Speaker 6: old ancient kings of ancient Celtic kings used to you know,
Speaker 6: the heather coronations, rituals and ceremonies. So that's who the
Speaker 6: world's claimed to be descended from.
Speaker 7: That's so nuts to me, because it's like they have
Speaker 7: little pockets everywhere. It's not just in America obviously, because
Speaker 7: there's members of the family like Sir Frank Weld, he
Speaker 7: was the Prime Minister of New Zealand and also the
Speaker 7: Governor of Western Australia. And then like Thomas Weld, he
Speaker 7: was one of the ones who helped create Harvard and
Speaker 7: he was a personal friend of King George the Third.
Speaker 6: Typical, they're a very Anglo focused family. They seem to
Speaker 6: be still to this day, and they're having this Anglo
Speaker 6: American influence, you know, this this British influence on America.
Speaker 6: And speaking of that, speaking of that, back to Bill
Speaker 6: Weld right right, took us off on the standard of there, Julia.
Speaker 6: So Bill Weld was the governor, as you pointed out,
Speaker 6: Tuesday's cousin and Whitey Boulger's brother was the President of
Speaker 6: the State Senate, Bill Bill Boulger. So I'm not sure
Speaker 6: if I'm sure either of you were aware of that,
Speaker 6: that the infamous gangster Whitey Bulger, while he's being a gangster,
Speaker 6: his brother's the president of the State Senate in the
Speaker 6: same city of Boston.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 7: Figure, right, you have to somebody on both sides exactly.
Speaker 6: And well, they're running the same operations, just from different roubles.
Speaker 6: So Bill Weld and Bill Boulger getting an infamous dispute.
Speaker 6: Maybe too much of a New England to even know
Speaker 6: this story, but they get an into infamous dispute on
Speaker 6: the floor of the State House and they're in Boston,
Speaker 6: and Boulger's roasting Weld saying like, you know, oh my
Speaker 6: family has been here since blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 6: and Wells and Well, you know, watches them, you know,
Speaker 6: in his little temper tantrum in front of the entire
Speaker 6: again the joint session, and he's the governor there at
Speaker 6: the state House, you know, Bill Bolger's house, he's running
Speaker 6: as the state's state's president of the State Senate. And
Speaker 6: Well just replies with, yeah, we sent over our help
Speaker 6: here first. So that's that's the Weld family. That's the
Speaker 6: Weld family. M hm.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, and they're also responsible for like setting up
Speaker 7: major trade routes and stuff. And like so William Gordon
Speaker 7: Weld founded some kind of fleet of trading vessels which
Speaker 7: did opium trade to China. That I mean, this is
Speaker 7: the Weld fan. This is what they're known for. I mean,
Speaker 7: and so and so William Gordon we Old son, William
Speaker 7: Fletcher Weld, he expanded like this little empire, right, and
Speaker 7: he introduced an even bigger fleet of ships and they
Speaker 7: were called the black Horse flag Fleet and they were
Speaker 7: opium traders and they were coming straight out of like
Speaker 7: Massachusetts doing opium trade. I mean, this family, I'm talking
Speaker 7: like they are the elites. They're the Brahmins, they're the
Speaker 7: elite class. They're doing opium trade. They're involved in government,
Speaker 7: they're involved in religion. They're in New Zealand, they're in Australia,
Speaker 7: they're everywhere literally from going all the way back to
Speaker 7: King George the Third, and he like knighted some of them.
Speaker 7: So this is right, right, kind of like a like
Speaker 7: a roths child for America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because everybody goes to like, what's that I said?
Speaker 7: I think everybody fixates on like Rockefeller and like names
Speaker 7: like that, but the Weld family is should be mentioned
Speaker 7: when those things come up.
Speaker 6: For sure, and my and my and my perspective, they're
Speaker 6: one of the same. They're both the society Cincinnati families.
Speaker 6: But you know, in regard to the Welds, they seem
Speaker 6: more overtly involved in witchcraft throughout their history.
Speaker 7: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying the other ones are, and I'm just
Speaker 6: saying they seem to brag about it.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking about this time.
Speaker 6: Tuesday Weld we're a witch's hat to an interview to
Speaker 6: the factory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a witch in the seventies.
Speaker 7: You know where she did that interview. It was the
Speaker 7: Chateau Marmont in California, where like I'm pretty sure that's
Speaker 7: where John Belu she died and like Anton Levey used
Speaker 7: to hang out, and it's supposedly haunted by all the
Speaker 7: ghosts of all the dead celebrities that have passed through
Speaker 7: that she did the interview there, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 7: she's She's made fun in the public eye of like
Speaker 7: I'm a witch and I have a high pedigree from
Speaker 7: this this elite family. What you gonna do about it,
Speaker 7: Like she's said stuff like that. I mean pretty much.
Speaker 6: She's got a lot of connections to the Hotel Marmont there,
Speaker 6: so well, Jack's Jack's one of his best friends in life.
Speaker 6: Mister Bob Cocaine Evans his producer buddy for the film Godfather.
Speaker 6: Al Ruddy is Al Ruddy's wife owned that's Chateau Marmont
Speaker 6: Hotel mm HM back in the sixties and early seventies.
Speaker 7: It's just so crazy because it's like I said, she's
Speaker 7: she's like the Babylon Girl, but she's not, because she's
Speaker 7: everywhere and nowhere and like a ghost. She's like a
Speaker 7: ghost in Hollywood, like she pops up everywhere. Everyone knows her,
Speaker 7: but she is She's.
Speaker 6: Not a household name like Maryland, right, She's not a
Speaker 6: house or even Jane Mansfield exactly.
Speaker 7: Yes, So getting kind of more into her now that
Speaker 7: we know about like her family and shit. She was
Speaker 7: born on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty three. And it's
Speaker 7: based on the research I've done, Like in these elite cults,
Speaker 7: people like Tuesday are chosen at a very early age
Speaker 7: to carry out whatever it is that they have for
Speaker 7: them and I do think that she was chosen relatively.
Speaker 7: I think seven, as you said earlier, is probably when
Speaker 7: they started noticing because they said that she had abundant
Speaker 7: psychic and clairvoyant abilities from a very young age. And
Speaker 7: this was something that they covet obviously, especially when you
Speaker 7: come from a family, an elite family, and you're got
Speaker 7: clairvoyant psychic abilities. So she's like a nineteen sixties Laurel
Speaker 7: Canyon era gal, you know. And she was in the movies,
Speaker 7: but she wasn't like Maryland status famous, which I'll explain
Speaker 7: why later on. But she's like your typical archetype of
Speaker 7: the Babylon like blonde hair, blue eyed sex kitten. This
Speaker 7: is what the perfect woman should look like kind of thing,
Speaker 7: oh for sure.
Speaker 6: And I think that was her role though, is what
Speaker 6: all you're describing. This is all very well organized because
Speaker 6: this is one of her first major acting She was
Speaker 6: in other things starting very young. I think her first
Speaker 6: acting role was Ege seven. I think she was sixteen
Speaker 6: here in this TV show called The You familiar with
Speaker 6: this one? Julia The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.
Speaker 7: I came across that one. Yeah, I've never watched it.
Speaker 6: Obviously, but h strangely enough, I watched as long before
Speaker 6: I really understor knew who Tuesday World.
Speaker 7: Was really was.
Speaker 2: It was a popular show in my household growing up.
Speaker 7: Well I actually, so you know, like when somebody's getting started,
Speaker 7: they'll be in like some shit stuff before they like
Speaker 7: really hit the big time and like get like a
Speaker 7: right all right, not Tuesday So.
Speaker 2: No, no, And this show shows it right here.
Speaker 6: So the synopsis of the show is the end of
Speaker 6: the innocence of the nineteen fifties before the oncoming nineteen
Speaker 6: sixties revolution.
Speaker 7: Well, she played a huge part of in real life role.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, that's that's what this show that was, the
Speaker 6: show like that that was kind of the start of
Speaker 6: her revolution of the sixties, right where she's kind of
Speaker 6: this puppet master to six. It starts in nineteen fifty
Speaker 6: nine when she's sixteen, what's sixteen years old? And this
Speaker 6: TV show that the TV shows about the end of
Speaker 6: the fifties and the you know, this new era of
Speaker 6: get out with the beat next and in with these
Speaker 6: you know, the kind of this new hippie kind of scene.
Speaker 7: Almost she played a huge role in the inspiration behind
Speaker 7: the lot of music and culture too, but like I have.
Speaker 7: So let's say she she's developing these psychic abilities around
Speaker 7: like age seven, and then she began a modeling career
Speaker 7: at age twelve, and she landed her film debut at
Speaker 7: age twelve in a freaking Alfred Hitchcock movie.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 7: So it's like she skipped all of the like, oh,
Speaker 7: I gotta try to get roles and stuff. It was
Speaker 7: like born psychic twelve years old, she's a model, and
Speaker 7: she's in an Alfred Hitchcock movie and literally nobody knows
Speaker 7: about her. It's like she didn't even have to try.
Speaker 7: They just like threw her in and was like, hey,
Speaker 7: Alfred Hitchcock, here you go, bitch, Like how many people
Speaker 7: would have died to be in an Alfred Hitchcock movie.
Speaker 7: You know he was huge back then. And this is
Speaker 7: actually do you think.
Speaker 2: It's just because of her family? Right? Her family's running Hollywood.
Speaker 7: Oh one. And a lesser known thing about her as
Speaker 7: well is she was Stanley Kubrick's first pick for Lolita,
Speaker 7: right wow, Right, you know, the infamous pedophile movie.
Speaker 6: So when I say her family, I mean like the
Speaker 6: cold family, right, like the family of which the Welds
Speaker 6: are obviously a big part of and included in, but they're.
Speaker 2: Not the only family in there, right.
Speaker 7: I love this picture of her in Elvis because you know,
Speaker 7: I brought it up before. I was like, oh, did
Speaker 7: Elvis know Tuesday Weld or do you know that Elvis
Speaker 7: knew Tuesday Weld? And it's like, oh no, I don't
Speaker 7: even know who that is. Well, he sure got a
Speaker 7: tender love and care for her, right there. I have
Speaker 7: picture where he was sneaking a little smooch from Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Who is that?
Speaker 2: That's mister Steve McQueen. He's part of the family.
Speaker 7: Oh one hundred. He's got a nice little hug for
Speaker 7: her too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's as a cousin of mine.
Speaker 6: I'm McQueen, he really yeah, yeah, My second great grandmother
Speaker 6: is a McQueen, so I think he's somewhere in my
Speaker 6: fifth cousin. Anyway, this is nineteen sixty nine, right, because
Speaker 6: when this photo was taken, and so, yeah, he steals
Speaker 6: Bob Evans old cocaine Bob Evans wife the next year
Speaker 6: Steven Queen does when I say steal, I think all
Speaker 6: these people are involved in the sex colt right, So like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know he runs he runs off with cocaine. Bob's wife.
Speaker 6: She's married to George propart at this time. I believe
Speaker 6: that's when they're married. Is around that same time.
Speaker 7: Well and during the time. Oh, I don't know how
Speaker 7: old she was.
Speaker 2: No, No, the the A Team, he was the he
Speaker 2: was the star of the television show Now Team No.
Speaker 7: I thought you said she.
Speaker 6: I don't know, Yeah, Colonival Hannibal Smith. I'm too big
Speaker 6: of an eighteen fan, I guess. But but anyone in
Speaker 6: the eighties, you know, remembers this dude from from that,
Speaker 6: They don't remember from Breakfast, the Tiffany's, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 7: No, well, it seems like to me everybody had a
Speaker 7: bit of a crush on her. I think Elvis was
Speaker 7: still married to Priscilla when he was in a romantic
Speaker 7: relationship with Tuesday. So that was all kind of like
Speaker 7: hush hudh and like swept under the rug because those
Speaker 7: two were in a movie together, which I will get
Speaker 7: to in a minute. But JJ, have you heard of
Speaker 7: a movie she was in called Lord Love a Duck.
Speaker 6: I was gonna bring that movie up to sure, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's exactly like that. Dobie Gillis shows it's spawning this
Speaker 6: revolution that she's in charge of.
Speaker 2: And and we'll kind of bragging about it more or less.
Speaker 7: But right, so, like it's basically like this demon that
Speaker 7: grants you wishes, right, and she just wants fame and
Speaker 7: she wants whatever. But anyways, but.
Speaker 2: She's like a Colt hypriesest in that, right Barbara Ann, Right?
Speaker 7: Yeah, she she plays Barbara and nicknamed Barbie.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But they see allegedly sanging on the Beach Boys song
Speaker 6: Barbara Ann as a tribute to this movie that came
Speaker 6: out at the same time as this movie.
Speaker 7: That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: So she's talking about the process.
Speaker 7: The Beach Boys were were infatuated with her, and that's
Speaker 7: where Barbara Ann came from, was this Lord Love a
Speaker 7: Duck because they were they were infatuated with Tuesday. And
Speaker 7: it's to me, it's signaling again like she's the Barbie, right.
Speaker 7: And I kind of talked to Nick before about like
Speaker 7: where the Barbie origins came from. And they're pretty.
Speaker 2: Sister, you know.
Speaker 6: You're saying, like the Barbie doll is like some sort
Speaker 6: of like idol of some regard.
Speaker 7: Is right. The very first, the very first Barbie doll
Speaker 7: that ever came out was was a sex toyikes, Yes.
Speaker 4: It was definitely. It was definitely sold sexually.
Speaker 7: Yes, And it had nipples and it had a vagina,
Speaker 7: and all they did literally to marketed to children was
Speaker 7: removed the nipples in the vagina. It was the same dress,
Speaker 7: it was the same face, it was the same hair,
Speaker 7: it was everything was the same. And when the guy
Speaker 7: took this sex doll just removed the anatomy parts. He
Speaker 7: took it to like a kid's convention thing to sell it,
Speaker 7: and parents were like, what are you doing with it?
Speaker 7: Like they were creeped out by it. But now it's
Speaker 7: like that's the staple. You know, it's like a Barbie
Speaker 7: doll that's sexualizing for children basically for sure, because before
Speaker 7: the Barbie, little girls would play with babies and like
Speaker 7: they were learning how to become a mother you know who? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: And then they introduced the kin doll, and it's like
Speaker 7: use your imagination.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they got a new evolution. I mean, I like
Speaker 6: how you're describing this because that's how I look at
Speaker 6: the new evolution of this stuff. The American something American
Speaker 6: dolls or American girls or something.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, American girl dolls.
Speaker 6: It's that's that's Barbie, even to the next level of
Speaker 6: evolution of this kind of psyoptom floor describing.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, but so I think it's interesting that she's
Speaker 7: like Barbara Ann in this movie. Yeah, and the Beach
Speaker 7: Boys write this song. She's Barbie. She's blonde hair, she's
Speaker 7: blue eyes, she's got like the perfect body, literally everything
Speaker 7: she is the epitome.
Speaker 2: Of just supposedly stings on that too.
Speaker 6: Shows she's allegedly she's a backup singer in the song
Speaker 6: Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys. Again, as you pointed out,
Speaker 6: their obsession with her makes sense. Their their music producers,
Speaker 6: mister Phil Spector, the process guy, you know, the wall
Speaker 6: sound guy, you know, the wrecking crew guy. Oh there,
Speaker 6: and then you know, so the beach wasn't surrounded by that.
Speaker 6: You know, they got you got what's his name, Brian Wilson,
Speaker 6: you know, is the financier of Charles Manson and family.
Speaker 6: Why I would argue, he's just helping finance the process
Speaker 6: at that rate, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: And you know Dennis Wilson, He's got to be Dennis Wilson.
Speaker 2: My apologies, Oh, I was.
Speaker 7: Gonna say, he's the one that had a big heart
Speaker 7: on for Manson, had him living in his house ship.
Speaker 6: Right, and they're all friends with I always missed this
Speaker 6: dude's name up. He's a music producer. He wrote the
Speaker 6: song Cocomo with the Wilson Boys, you know, for the
Speaker 6: Scientology Tom Cruise classic film in the eighties, Cocktails, the
Speaker 6: song written for that.
Speaker 2: He's he was. He was Charlie's a cell mate at
Speaker 2: Terminal Island.
Speaker 7: Phil, I don't know, that's a very.
Speaker 2: Music producer friend of the Beach Boys.
Speaker 6: Obviously did did produce some Beach Boys stuff along with
Speaker 6: writing with the Beach Boys and Cocomo.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Might I might have got Terry Melcher mashed up with
Speaker 6: Phil Coffin, but they're both in the same mix with
Speaker 6: the Beach Boys, right, these people around Manson the guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say. Phil Kaufman is definitely mentioned
Speaker 7: in uh Dave McGowan's work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I first learned about him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I know about him at least,
Speaker 7: And he.
Speaker 6: Was everywhere in the music scene. But yeah, he served.
Speaker 6: He was there in Terminal Island there with Chuck.
Speaker 7: That's so wild, dude, you know something else about her.
Speaker 7: I think, if I'm not mistaken, she was like fifteen
Speaker 7: in Lord Love a Ducky, and.
Speaker 6: She sounds about right so old when she was born
Speaker 6: in what forty three? Uh huh, yeah, I think she
Speaker 6: was probably like twenty then maybe, oh she was twenty three, twenty.
Speaker 2: Probably twenty two.
Speaker 7: So this must be a quote from a different movie,
Speaker 7: because I say, I have in my notes one of
Speaker 7: the male actors she worked with on one of these movies.
Speaker 7: I guess it wasn't this one. A quote from him
Speaker 7: was Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. Spec he
Speaker 7: said that. So it was like, I don't know that
Speaker 7: they all had like an infatuation with her even when
Speaker 7: she was young young, like she started when she was twelve,
Speaker 7: got the Alfred Hitchcock movie. Then she's with Elvis, she's
Speaker 7: with Jack Nicholson, she's obviously fifteen, still doing stuff, and
Speaker 7: they're like, oh, yeah, Tuesday she's fifteen going on twenty seven. Okay,
Speaker 7: who said that?
Speaker 2: Do you have a source? Flom?
Speaker 7: I just said, danny k always it, did you find it?
Speaker 6: That's when I searched the quote. That's what it came
Speaker 6: up with. Danny k but I don't know this actor though.
Speaker 6: Do you know him?
Speaker 7: No? The article that I pulled it from, said a
Speaker 7: co a co male actor she worked with, referred to
Speaker 7: her as quote, Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven.
Speaker 6: It's this dude, Danny. I don't know this guy's work.
Speaker 6: But he was much older dude than Tuesday. But he's
Speaker 6: buried in Westchester, kuny of New York there, Nick Hell.
Speaker 2: Definitely look Westchester specifically, right.
Speaker 7: So is he like a big wig guy or I
Speaker 7: don't know?
Speaker 6: Says he says he was an actor, comedian, singer, and dancer.
Speaker 7: She also knew Bing Crosby too.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe they were all in White Christmas together.
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe I didn't know her to be in White Christmas?
Speaker 3: Is she in that?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: I'm just saying I know that's a Bing Crosby Danny
Speaker 6: K and I recognized.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I recognized Danny K from.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, it was with Bing Crosbie. I mean she
Speaker 7: knows everybody, dude, literally.
Speaker 2: She does, doesn't she because this is a way older
Speaker 2: actor than she is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and apparently he was fantasizing about her being twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, she was sixteen and that she was sixteen.
Speaker 6: They did a film called Five Pennies Together in nineteen
Speaker 6: fifty nine, so she was five right around the same
Speaker 6: time she did that DeBie Guilli stuff she was.
Speaker 7: Later on after this stuff, she was in something called
Speaker 7: seventy seven Sunset Strip, which also stood out. Yeah. I
Speaker 7: think it was a show called seventy seven Sunset Strip
Speaker 7: and it was another like weird Laurel Canyony weirdness, But
Speaker 7: you know seventy seven, you're right, seventy seven like the
Speaker 7: OZ the Magician's number whatever, and maybe seventy seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well sevens and stuff. Yeah, I do you find
Speaker 4: that interesting?
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I don't. I don't know what
Speaker 6: the meetings are. It seems creepy that they would name
Speaker 6: it that, right whatever. The seven seven's got to mean something, right.
Speaker 7: And it's sunset strip, right, like where all the Laurel
Speaker 7: Canyons shit's going down and it's.
Speaker 6: Not yet there, right, not yet, because this is from
Speaker 6: fifty eight to sixty four pop off until sixty four, right.
Speaker 7: Was it? I thought it was a little bit earlier
Speaker 7: than that I could know.
Speaker 6: I believe I believe the Birds first album was maybe
Speaker 6: late sixty three with all that Dylan music. This is
Speaker 6: Vito Policas is the is the Proto Manson guy in
Speaker 6: Laurel Kenyon. I know, I think that's around sixty three
Speaker 6: or sixty four.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so was Sunset Strip this seventy seven Sunset Strip?
Speaker 7: Was that Veto's time?
Speaker 2: He would have been hanging out in that at the
Speaker 2: time yet because.
Speaker 7: He was like the granddaddy of the whole movement, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So this is a series and her episode was called
Speaker 7: Secret Island or something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, but.
Speaker 6: She so after being really creepy show, Julia, I've never
Speaker 6: even paid attention to this.
Speaker 2: I have an ex active and former.
Speaker 6: WW two WW two World War two Office of Strategic
Speaker 6: Service is a secret agent, right, That's that's the main
Speaker 6: character is an OSS guy.
Speaker 7: This is where I mentioned this stuff because after she's
Speaker 7: in this show, she's in a movie with Dick Clark
Speaker 7: that's called Sex Kittens Go to College.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with.
Speaker 7: She went from seventy seven Sunset Strip to Sex Kittens
Speaker 7: Go to College.
Speaker 8: It's like they pointed out there for you, you know,
Speaker 8: quite a career trajectory, right.
Speaker 7: Sex Kittens go to College?
Speaker 6: Like what, oh, I think we skipped over this when
Speaker 6: chronologically she was in uh oh yeah, Rock with a
Speaker 6: convicted child child sex offender Chuck Berry.
Speaker 7: Damn oh yes, Chuck Berry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if he was convicted yet. He was.
Speaker 6: He was getting popped right around this time though, for
Speaker 6: the violations of the Main Act.
Speaker 7: Well, was it before or after this Wild in the
Speaker 7: Country with Elvis came out and that's when they developed
Speaker 7: their little romance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Because I'm trying to remember when Chuckburry because the music
Speaker 6: the music record studio company folks literally brokeer Chuck Berry's
Speaker 6: release from prison, like they want the Feds want to
Speaker 6: keep them in there for like a long time. They're like, look,
Speaker 6: this's gonna make us a lot of money.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: We got to get him out of there, you know.
Speaker 6: So he didn't give what he did about soon and
Speaker 6: a half. I think he was out by nineteen sixty,
Speaker 6: but it was right around this time he was with Tuesday.
Speaker 6: Well that is when he got popped. When he was
Speaker 6: when he was committing violations of the Man Act. So
Speaker 6: child sex trafficking wasn't really technically illegal in many states
Speaker 6: where there was a federal law at the time called
Speaker 6: the Man Act, which was taking an underage, you know,
Speaker 6: minor across state lines for the purposes of sexual activity.
Speaker 2: And that's what Chuck Barry was doing.
Speaker 7: That's what doing that.
Speaker 2: He was doing a lot of it.
Speaker 6: He later would write a number one single called My
Speaker 6: Dingling and Tour American having people sing along with a
Speaker 6: convicted child sex offender. You know, it's kind of dark. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's Tuesday's frinds, that's Tuesday's friends.
Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna say too. In that Elvis movie
Speaker 7: she was the Wild in the Country. I don't know
Speaker 7: if it was before or after this, she played an
Speaker 7: incest victim. Oh man with Elvis. Yeah, with Elvis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sixty one. I thought, I think that
Speaker 2: was sixty one. So yeah. The Sex Kittens Go to
Speaker 2: College was nineteen sixty with Dick Clark. Yeah, Like what
Speaker 2: goes on? Right?
Speaker 6: Like you got Brookshields as an eleven year old what
Speaker 6: in like nineteen seventy eight, you know, naked in a
Speaker 6: film as a child prostitute. You got other you know,
Speaker 6: obviously tuesdays of age here, right, Well, she's barely of age.
Speaker 6: She's probably seventeen actually, in sixteen when she filmed this, right.
Speaker 7: When I was young.
Speaker 6: Yeahsty three, Yeah, a little questionable, right, having having a
Speaker 6: child in a film called Sex Kittens.
Speaker 2: Got to call.
Speaker 7: Collage and it's like, look at the cover. It's it's
Speaker 7: your archetypes, right. You got Tuesdays, the blonde with blue eyes,
Speaker 7: and you got a redhead with a green shirt on,
Speaker 7: and then you have the brunette with like this red
Speaker 7: polka dot thing. It's it's the Neapolitan sex kitten for you,
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 2: So that's what your Marilyn Monroe on top?
Speaker 7: Oh, isn't that Tuesday on top?
Speaker 2: I thought this was Tuesday?
Speaker 7: Which one?
Speaker 2: The redheaded middle one? The middle one?
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, I can barely see it because it's so small,
Speaker 7: but I just.
Speaker 6: Assumed it's it's not Marilyn Monroe. But I mean, are
Speaker 6: they trying to aim for Marilyn Monroe. Bit it's Mami von.
Speaker 7: Dorian Ooh, another blonde hair, blue eyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh, she's one of the three m's, Okay, along with
Speaker 6: Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. Okay, I don't know this lady.
Speaker 7: I don't know her either.
Speaker 2: Mammy Mami, Yeah, Mamie van Dorton.
Speaker 7: I'm sure if you looked into her, she falls right
Speaker 7: in the same category with all the other.
Speaker 6: Archetypes, right, I mean you got Mansfield and and uh
Speaker 6: Marilyn Monroe, who, like Tuesday Welder dedicated to the Satanic Bible, right.
Speaker 7: Yes, but you know, Tuesday and Maryland were up for
Speaker 7: the same parts very often, and they would go with
Speaker 7: Marylyn as opposed to Tuesday. And it's like, why is
Speaker 7: that because Marylyn is lacking the pedigree that Tuesday has
Speaker 7: And why did Tuesday never blow up and become like
Speaker 7: a megastar the way that these women did? And this
Speaker 7: is how I would explain it. And JJ, you can
Speaker 7: agree or disagree, but it's like they use women like
Speaker 7: Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, and it's like they get
Speaker 7: them and they use them up and they burn them
Speaker 7: out and then they throw them away. They like die
Speaker 7: horribly at young ages, and it's like they're all they're
Speaker 7: literally burnt out by the end of their career in
Speaker 7: their early you know, twenties and thirties, whereas Tuesday is
Speaker 7: almost like she's been protected and she lives still to
Speaker 7: this day a ridiculously bizarre, charmed life.
Speaker 6: And is that I mean, I agree with you there,
Speaker 6: Julia on how they how they burn them Ounta and
Speaker 6: is it's a very intentional thing.
Speaker 2: I think as well.
Speaker 6: But she but to be honest with me, here's her life
Speaker 6: that all that charmed. She married Dudley Moore, She had
Speaker 6: a child with Dudley Moore, that little strange, little hobbin
Speaker 6: looking fellow. You know what I'm talking about, Martha.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, when I watch.
Speaker 2: Charm can your life be?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I watched He's gotta be a wizard, right,
Speaker 6: I've always written it off like that, dude's gotta be
Speaker 6: a wizard, right, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, what's that?
Speaker 6: I guess, right, That's what I'm saying, dude, Like, how
Speaker 6: what's going on there?
Speaker 7: I mean, she when she's she's been interviewed and I've
Speaker 7: watched them, and she kind of like it was like,
Speaker 7: all right, I'm just going to be a stay at
Speaker 7: home mom and just drink wine all day and you know,
Speaker 7: sit around and basically she's just living the life of luxury.
Speaker 7: I don't know for her husband's a weirdo or not,
Speaker 7: but she she got a lot better outcome than Jane
Speaker 7: Mansfield and Maryland. And I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: But I guess that's that's a good comparison.
Speaker 6: Although though I think Homegirl won the won the competition
Speaker 6: there miss uh what was her name, Donna von Dene
Speaker 6: or whatever? What was this lady's name again? Maybe maybe yeah,
Speaker 6: Maymie von Dene or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that. I feel like, oh, well, maybe
Speaker 7: she's maybe she's another Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But it's like these other actresses are like expendable. They're
Speaker 7: like a dime a dozen. You can create many Marilyn
Speaker 7: Monroe's and they've done it throughout time with like Madonna
Speaker 7: and Britney Spears and Kesha, and it's like Lady Gaga,
Speaker 7: you can create as many as you want of this
Speaker 7: archetype of the blonde, blue eyed, you know, priestess of
Speaker 7: like the upper echelon of women, because they've done it
Speaker 7: multiple times, like I said, throughout time. But why is
Speaker 7: Tuesday protected? Like why is she set apart? And I
Speaker 7: think these other women are like they want to be
Speaker 7: a part of the club.
Speaker 2: Right, they don't have the genetics right.
Speaker 7: And it's like the club that they're trying to be
Speaker 7: a part of is Tuesdays Club.
Speaker 2: Like it's like when you joined the mafia or whatever.
Speaker 6: You're going to get in so hard unless you're part
Speaker 6: of the actual family, right, So, like you know, so
Speaker 6: I feel I kind of view these side characters right,
Speaker 6: like they're not quite part of the family, but yeah
Speaker 6: they're they're like they're a lower echelon of the system.
Speaker 7: Yes, they're initiates into something that Tuesday's family built exactly.
Speaker 7: That's why she doesn't get burnt out and suicided or
Speaker 7: drug overdosed or car accident or like used up and
Speaker 7: burnt out. She's like, I'll get into it in a second,
Speaker 7: but it's like.
Speaker 6: She's this demand little man though, right, we still see
Speaker 6: it inconclusive.
Speaker 7: Let me see him. I just want to see.
Speaker 2: Nick's gotta put Nick put a picture on this little villa.
Speaker 7: Oh god, he's hideous, right.
Speaker 4: No, if you're watch him in like author, he'd be like,
Speaker 4: which I'm sure is really his personality, but you would
Speaker 4: be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 7: He must he must be a bloodliner, right, got a
Speaker 7: lot of money. He has to be. He has to be,
Speaker 7: because it's like, you don't get that high a pedigree
Speaker 7: of Tuesday Weld unless you're a bloodliner.
Speaker 6: Because they want thought, always thought that, right, it's something weird, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's not like somebody with Tuesday Weld whoesdated
Speaker 7: Elvis is gonna end up marrying this guy in pro
Speaker 7: Creating unless he's a bloodliner. She probably has a boyfriend
Speaker 7: who's side.
Speaker 6: She was married to George for part. Have you seen
Speaker 6: the A team Carnibal Hannibal Smith. I mean, she went
Speaker 6: from Hannibal Smith to this guy.
Speaker 7: That's why, That's why it's got to be on purpose,
Speaker 7: because whatever genetics they have together is going to make
Speaker 7: the next you know, Tuesday.
Speaker 4: That makes as much sense as Jackson winning.
Speaker 7: But you know, think of the obsession that she had
Speaker 7: around her for her to end up with this guy,
Speaker 7: right because the Beatles sang about her, The Stones sang
Speaker 7: about her. That Beach Boys song is about her. She
Speaker 7: literally could have picked anybody she wanted. Elvis had a
Speaker 7: big crush on her, and she is said to be
Speaker 7: part of the influence behind the changes of the Beatles
Speaker 7: being like Bubblegummy to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
Speaker 7: They say like Tuesday somehow played a role in that transition.
Speaker 6: Sure, well, you'll see that in that Lord Love of
Speaker 6: Duck movie right in the very beginning of it, Roddy McDowell,
Speaker 6: the greaser guys getting beat up by the hippie guy
Speaker 6: right on the beach, and Tuesday, Well, it's kind of like,
Speaker 6: you know, cheering it on there. So she's she has
Speaker 6: heard cheering on this moving a revolution of the sixties
Speaker 6: where they're inserting this this hippie dumb and you know,
Speaker 6: the Laurel Canyon scene. They're they're going to be, you know,
Speaker 6: taking a little Cannes scene and inserting it across America, right,
Speaker 6: because that really started there. And you know when why
Speaker 6: folks think that that the you know, sixties rock and
Speaker 6: roll started at the Monterey Music Festivals because it's the
Speaker 6: Laurel Canyon folks all went up to the Monorary Music
Speaker 6: Festival as they're launching you know, they're launching it for
Speaker 6: marketing purposes, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah. And the song that the Stones wrote about her,
Speaker 7: Ruby Tuesday, that everybody knows and they probably thought that
Speaker 7: it was the day of the week or something, right,
Speaker 7: Ruby Tuesday. But it actually inspired me to look into
Speaker 7: a little bit further why they would have used that terminology.
Speaker 7: Have you ever read Fritz Springmeyer, You guys either one heard.
Speaker 2: Of thirteen blood lines of the Illuminati.
Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that, I think. He he also has
Speaker 7: another one that where he so in Fritz Springtire's work,
Speaker 7: he he talks about there's levels and there's like a
Speaker 7: rank system in the dark Ocult. I don't know if
Speaker 7: it's specifically for SRA victims, but definitely for like programmed multiples, right,
Speaker 7: And there's like this rank system, and they're all different
Speaker 7: types of gemstones. And so the diamond is like the
Speaker 7: presidential model whore, and the emerald is like psychic stuff.
Speaker 7: They're used for rituals. And then there's the ruby, which
Speaker 7: is related to the bloodline, which is like upper echelon.
Speaker 7: They're also used in rituals, but they're more like the
Speaker 7: high priestess level. And then there are pearls, which are
Speaker 7: like mind files. And so if you look at these
Speaker 7: program multiples, most of the time they're wrapping their gymstone.
Speaker 7: So like Marilyn is this diamond level. Diamonds are girl's
Speaker 7: best friend, Diamonds are forever. She pushed diamonds in the sixties.
Speaker 7: And then if you look there's ruby Usday with the
Speaker 7: royal blood and if you really dive into John Beney
Speaker 7: Ramsey and how much they push the emerald symbology with her,
Speaker 7: and that's supposed to be like psychics that are used
Speaker 7: for rituals in this rank system. But there's this one
Speaker 7: picture that everybody always posts of John Benet where she's
Speaker 7: got her pinky finger up and she's wearing an emerald ring.
Speaker 7: And it's it's like, why so specifically that picture of
Speaker 7: John Benay like this wearing an emerald ring on her
Speaker 7: pinky And if you really look into these ranking systems,
Speaker 7: they're all Jim's stones and these women will rep like
Speaker 7: these the pearls, the rubies, diamonds, emeralds, whatever their ranking is.
Speaker 7: So I don't know how you guys feel about that,
Speaker 7: but I think that could be what the Ruby Tuesday
Speaker 7: is about.
Speaker 6: So you're saying, like a ranking of her ranking within
Speaker 6: the system, yeah, because she's.
Speaker 7: The ruby is like one of the most precious of
Speaker 7: the gemstones, and the ruby is red for the blood.
Speaker 7: It's like the royal blood, the High Priestess Ruby Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Because you would think it would be a diamond, right,
Speaker 7: but look what happened to Maryland. Diamonds are literally worthless
Speaker 7: in the end. Rubies are way more precious and you know,
Speaker 7: it's like if you look, you'll see these weird gemstones
Speaker 7: pop up with a lot of these libs. And if
Speaker 7: it's true that she's like royal blood, which she is,
Speaker 7: and she's got the pedigree, it's very reminiscent to me
Speaker 7: of David Krosby, whose family all goes all the way
Speaker 7: back to the founding Fathers and shit, and I feel
Speaker 7: like he's always been protected. I mean, there's been multiple
Speaker 7: times he should have been arrested and thrown into prison
Speaker 7: and got himself into all kinds of a mess, and
Speaker 7: he just goes gets off with it.
Speaker 6: It sounds I like the rest of the processor, doesn't
Speaker 6: It Like Bob Cocaine Evans and John Fellows from the
Speaker 6: Mamas and the Papas, these people skirting off on getting
Speaker 6: drug trafficking charges right, It's.
Speaker 7: Like there is if you go back in the Crosby, Oh,
Speaker 7: ruby slippers. I love that they mentioned that because it's
Speaker 7: the movie The Wizard of Oz. I've covered it before.
Speaker 7: It's very occulted and it's got so many mentions to
Speaker 7: magic in there. You've got the ruby slippers for Dorothy.
Speaker 4: Oh. One thing I do Crosby and real quick too
Speaker 4: about the ruby. I don't know if this has anything
Speaker 4: to do with it, but I could see it being
Speaker 4: almost a symbol of alchemy. Most of the time. People
Speaker 4: probably don't know this, and I I heard this from
Speaker 4: somebody else, so it wasn't like, you know, I figured
Speaker 4: this out on my own. Most rubies, you would find
Speaker 4: that it would look like a stone until you apply
Speaker 4: heat to it, and then it turns into what you
Speaker 4: would normally see is the red. So you even do
Speaker 4: actually have to apply heat to this thing to get
Speaker 4: it to turn into the ruby. So it's kind of
Speaker 4: out chemical in the self.
Speaker 7: Well, they say that because Tuesday started developing psychic abilities
Speaker 7: when she was really young, and clairvoyant abilities that they
Speaker 7: almost had to like not blood her in, but they
Speaker 7: had to traumatize her in a way that would amplify
Speaker 7: I guess, her abilities. So that also goes along with
Speaker 7: the ruby. It's like they had a heater up a
Speaker 7: little bit to turn her into what she became, and
Speaker 7: then they protected her her entire life. You know, very
Speaker 7: reminiscent to me of David Crosby, because he also like
Speaker 7: he's got like founding Fathers, signers of the declar of Independence,
Speaker 7: you know, Civil War generals. I mean, his family tree
Speaker 7: goes all the fucking way back.
Speaker 6: Oh, they're the New York chapter of the Society. He's
Speaker 6: a he's a Van Cortland shooler, I believe, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, you know that song that The'll sang that
Speaker 7: song and it's like Tuesdays on the phone to me
Speaker 7: they say in this song. Yes, they say Tuesdays on
Speaker 7: the phone to me. If you go back and you
Speaker 7: find out what that story is, Tuesday was calling them
Speaker 7: from David Crosby's house. Oh so it's like when you
Speaker 7: look at these guys, it's like, of course they hang out.
Speaker 7: Of course they they're besties, you know, right, Tuesdays over
Speaker 7: at David Crosby's house, just casually calling the Beatles, and
Speaker 7: they feel like it's so significant they got to put
Speaker 7: it in a song.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 6: There's lots of other songs too, right, I mean just
Speaker 6: besides the Beatles in the in the you know, in
Speaker 6: the But what do you think, so, what do you
Speaker 6: think this wasn't her as far as you know, protecting
Speaker 6: you or staying out of the limelight, Like do you
Speaker 6: think that was her decision? Like she she's quoted in
Speaker 6: seventy one and The New York Times saying like, for example,
Speaker 6: she didn't take the role for Rosemary's Baby, right, she
Speaker 6: declined the role. So do you think that's her decline
Speaker 6: the role? Do you think there's somebody like West bring
Speaker 6: in her ear like you should not be doing. You know,
Speaker 6: you do not need to go star in Cocaine Bob Evans,
Speaker 6: Ron Planski's processed Church Satan shit you know, shit storm here.
Speaker 6: Do you think someone told her that or she's making
Speaker 6: on her own call?
Speaker 7: I don't, Well, I don't think she's making any of
Speaker 7: her own decisions because she's been like kind of guided
Speaker 7: since she was aged twelve with Alfred Hitchcock and stuff.
Speaker 7: But right, right, this is what I'll say, because the
Speaker 7: dedication in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible is like everyone would
Speaker 7: know who that is, who Tuesday is if they saw that, right,
Speaker 7: because he also mentions Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. But
Speaker 7: there is some other quotes from Anton Levey where he
Speaker 7: says he refers to her looks several times and how
Speaker 7: beautiful she is. He also refers to her witchery as
Speaker 7: he says, and he basically describes her as like the
Speaker 7: heart of the Ocean jewel, like she's so special and
Speaker 7: she's so amazing and elite if you will. But he
Speaker 7: also alluded to the fact that Tuesday will never be
Speaker 7: in the spotlight because she's serving a greater purpose.
Speaker 6: As that's from popular witchcraft, straight from the witch's mouth
Speaker 6: in an interview with High Priest Dance on Lavay. You found
Speaker 6: it nineteen seventy two, and this is a says two
Speaker 6: thousand and five.
Speaker 2: That's a reprint.
Speaker 7: There you go, right there. He literally says, you know,
Speaker 7: Tuesday will never be big, she will never be in
Speaker 7: the spotlight because she's so smart and she's serving this
Speaker 7: greater purpose. And the greater purpose has nothing to do
Speaker 7: with how famous she is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And in comparison to Mansfield and Monroe, he says, well, Tuesday's.
Speaker 8: Part of the rituals, right, Yeah, like Tuesdays like the
Speaker 8: upper echelon, where like all these other bitches are like
Speaker 8: fodder for the candy, right Like it's just you know,
Speaker 8: throw another Jane Mansfield out there, let's get Marilyn Monroe
Speaker 8: fucked up.
Speaker 7: And you know it's just I don't know she this
Speaker 7: this whole thing about her being involved in rituals and
Speaker 7: like obviously the Anton LaVey stuff, and she never did
Speaker 7: make it big, but yet she knows everyone and is
Speaker 7: traveling with the circles.
Speaker 6: In Hope, Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, James Kahn, you know,
Speaker 6: al Pacino, a crowd of Cocaine Bob's friends, like Cocaine
Speaker 6: Bob's friends, Robert de Niro, you know these are all
Speaker 6: her co stars and films.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, And I guess she's known to show up
Speaker 7: so like some of these Hollywood events with like two
Speaker 7: giant white wolves with her and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like, oh Tuesdays here and she's got these
Speaker 7: two big, giant white wolves at both of her sides,
Speaker 7: and it's like, Okay, here comes the Priestess, here comes
Speaker 7: the Biggie, the big Witch, and everybody like Revere's her
Speaker 7: Oh Tuesday with the white wolves and shit, you know
Speaker 7: she's she's a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 2: That's pretty wild.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know. But the thing is, it's like I
Speaker 7: said before, she knows everyone. She was in Hollywood for
Speaker 7: a little bit, but not to the point where she
Speaker 7: got burnt out and thrown away like some of the
Speaker 7: bigger ones. She's definitely part of the counterculture scene. She's
Speaker 7: got songs written about her. She knows the Beatles, the Stones. Imagine, like,
Speaker 7: how many people can you say that were even in
Speaker 7: the Laurel Canyon that could say, oh, the Beatles, the
Speaker 7: Beach Boys, the Stones, they all all wrote songs about me,
Speaker 7: but nobody knows who I.
Speaker 6: Am exactly exactly. Yeah, she's She's easily the most influential
Speaker 6: person in the entire scene music, movies, you know, the whole,
Speaker 6: the whole social aspect of it.
Speaker 2: And according to some folks. I so when I asked earlier,
Speaker 2: how you.
Speaker 6: Summoned across well one, whenever I do find people that
Speaker 6: have interested themselves in the life of Tuesday Weld and
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to understand it. I asked that question
Speaker 6: because I came across it in two ways really, So
Speaker 6: my my initial interest was I'd read the works of
Speaker 6: Adam go Rightley and his series that he printed years ago,
Speaker 6: and did a couple of podcast interviews with the guy
Speaker 6: I want to sit around two thousand and nine. I
Speaker 6: think he wrote the series in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 6: and NOI Magazine or something like that. I think he's
Speaker 6: reprinted it in books since then, but that was the
Speaker 6: original source. He interviews a guy. Are you familiar with
Speaker 6: the guy I'm talking about? Where the stories come from?
Speaker 6: This his source in this in this series, a fellow
Speaker 6: by the name of escape me Jeff, Jeff Jeff Turner.
Speaker 2: Ooh no, what's this Jeff Turner. I believe he's still alive.
Speaker 6: He's an extremely ausistic, severe autistic man who works in
Speaker 6: a soup kitchen I believe in San Jose, California. He
Speaker 6: claims have known Tuesday Weld for a very long time,
Speaker 6: since he was a youngster. He claims Tuesday Weld got
Speaker 6: him involved with spying on one of her underlings that
Speaker 6: had decided to leave her guys and go take over
Speaker 6: what this man described as the Processed Church of the
Speaker 6: Final Judgment. That lady's name was Christy McManus. This is
Speaker 6: all stuff that's been published. She's still alive, she's still
Speaker 6: love She's running some ocult stuff in Vegas. Last time
Speaker 6: I looked. So that's what I'm saying when I say
Speaker 6: last time I looked, I looked at some of the
Speaker 6: details of this guy, and some of these details do
Speaker 6: check out. This Christy McManus is definitely involved in the occult.
Speaker 6: Whether or not she was Tuesday, well, it's underling. I
Speaker 6: couldn't tell you. But nonetheless, this fella doesn't seem to
Speaker 6: be spending the yarns in large part of you asking me,
Speaker 6: there's some I'm not willing to throw the baby out
Speaker 6: with the with the bathtub, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: just because the.
Speaker 7: Guys, that's that's like oddly specific for it now to
Speaker 7: stay weld like literally, why would ever?
Speaker 6: No one knows exactly, no one knows he is, right,
Speaker 6: So this dude has this whole story go rightly. I
Speaker 6: believe his sense concluded after years later that he's he's
Speaker 6: he's kind of just moved away from this, this whole
Speaker 6: narrative and stuff. You don't think he has anybody my understanding.
Speaker 6: He no longer has any buying into it. But you
Speaker 6: know what a Discordian thing to do, if you ask me,
Speaker 6: mm hmm, she like the chief Discordian.
Speaker 7: Well, and the fact that she's still alive and could
Speaker 7: dispute that if she found out about it.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think she's ever commented, right, I don't
Speaker 6: think she ever coming Well, maybe this dude was allegedly
Speaker 6: spying on this network of this Tuesday Wells underlings in
Speaker 6: the eighties out of San Jose and then would later
Speaker 6: describe these activities to Adam go rightly relative to this
Speaker 6: Charles Manson cult. So according to this dude, Tuesday Weld
Speaker 6: was calling all the shots in the Manson murder like she.
Speaker 2: Was at that level of the situation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's his student's statements, Jeff Turner statements. Now again,
Speaker 6: I will offer this disclaimer. Jeff Turner, they made him.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's nearly his Looney tunes. I highly
Speaker 6: doubt he's nearly these looney tunes. These two filmmakers made
Speaker 6: him out to be. But I think it was intentional.
Speaker 6: So after he told these stories to go rightly and
Speaker 6: go rightly published him. Two film students tonight, two film
Speaker 6: students from NYU show up in San Jose, California. I
Speaker 6: think is how the story goes, and they want to
Speaker 6: film a documentary about the man. Will they turn that
Speaker 6: that documentary into Jeff Turner's obsession with the singer Tiffany.
Speaker 2: And he was arrested.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was arrested outside somewhere in the eighties with
Speaker 6: a samurai sword. He was trying to give the Tiffany.
Speaker 6: So you know, there is there's obviously a bit of.
Speaker 2: A narrative there.
Speaker 7: Why Tiffany.
Speaker 6: He's got a whole separate story where Tiffany runs a
Speaker 6: different faction opposite Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, stop it, stopitch her Tiffany's assistant.
Speaker 6: And again, I'm not trying to discredit the guy's story
Speaker 6: because again, some of the stuff conta chexts out over
Speaker 6: the years. Right, this is something he said back in
Speaker 6: like two thousand and seven. Tiffany's assistant in that opposing
Speaker 6: faction of Tuesday World was Alyssa Milano. Think about how
Speaker 6: many occult films Alyssa Milana has done. Think about how
Speaker 6: much weird political stuff she's inserted herself into in recent years.
Speaker 7: Oh my god. And all these people are still alive
Speaker 7: and could very easily like dispute these things, and they're
Speaker 7: not saying a peep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So these filmmakers turned Jeff Turner into complete looney.
Speaker 6: To him, I putting him into a film about stalkers
Speaker 6: of Tiffany. Right, Well, he was clearly a stalker of Tiffany.
Speaker 6: He wasn't so much a fan of her music. He
Speaker 6: was part he was trying to he had some whole
Speaker 6: thing where he's obsessed with this whole He's familiar with
Speaker 6: this whole cult network, right, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 6: but they really framed it in a, I think a
Speaker 6: very weird light with these filmmakers and this documentary. So
Speaker 6: this documentary was pretty big. So if anyone had any
Speaker 6: dispute about these subjects, like you're saying, there was there,
Speaker 6: they had opportunities to dispute.
Speaker 7: Well, listen, it's just funny you say this because somebody
Speaker 7: who came up before we started recording. I guess I'll
Speaker 7: just sut it out there since Tiffany came up.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that name in a while, righty, Right.
Speaker 7: Well, so my brother is a musician and he has
Speaker 7: the same manager as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails,
Speaker 7: and he has been able to meet Marilyn Manson and
Speaker 7: Tiffany and some of these bigger people and huh, yeah,
Speaker 7: he hung out with Tiffany. But no, so he's he's
Speaker 7: like asked Marilyn Manson like questions and he calls him
Speaker 7: Brian and shit and like apparently I don't know his
Speaker 7: last name. My brother alway just says Brian, But he
Speaker 7: I guess Brian told him this story about like Hunter S.
Speaker 7: Thompson and Johnny Depp and like all this weird stuff.
Speaker 7: And he was wearing these sunglasses that belonged to Hunter S.
Speaker 7: Thompson and he took them off and he like gave
Speaker 7: him to my brother and just let him wear him
Speaker 7: around for a while or whatever. But anyways, he said
Speaker 7: that like Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and they all hang
Speaker 7: out together well, and like they all meet up at
Speaker 7: the same clubs and play together and stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what you're describing to me is more details confirming
Speaker 6: the tales of Jeff Turner.
Speaker 7: That's why I brought it up is because I have
Speaker 7: never heard Tiffany ever besides my brother say that those
Speaker 7: two were connected.
Speaker 2: Was cool with him too, Thompson, No, with uh, Marylyn, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 4: Know that those pictures.
Speaker 2: Well, Hunter Thompson makes sense to me.
Speaker 6: He strikes me as an og processed guy, like his
Speaker 6: connections with depth. Their friendship over the years and we're
Speaker 6: Manson for that matter, makes sense because Hunter S. Thompson
Speaker 6: was doing security at the Eslam Institute when they were
Speaker 6: constructing the place. Yeah, he was living, he was living
Speaker 6: on the grounds, he chasing people off with his forty five.
Speaker 7: Dude, there's so much stuff about him. You ever heard
Speaker 7: that he like fucked his cat and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Not shocked, not shocked.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know the reason I bring it up
Speaker 7: to is because like Marilyn Manson, right, it's Marilyn Monroe
Speaker 7: and Charles Manson yeah together, right, and those are two
Speaker 7: people we just got done talking about. And so he's
Speaker 7: traveling in these circles with I guess process people like Tiffany, right,
Speaker 7: and somehow Tuesday Weld is in there too, Like, dude,
Speaker 7: that blows my mind that she even came up. And
Speaker 7: I literally have never told that story to anyway before.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: Tiffany electronic music stuff.
Speaker 2: She was that mall pop singer.
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering if the style of music was even
Speaker 4: processed church people, because remember they were big into the ship.
Speaker 4: Doesn't always have to sound like industrial, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: If you're digital music, that eighties kind of electrical rock,
Speaker 6: right or whatever, Like you never didn't have a band
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 2: She just sang with some music, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you know, I'm sure you know a
Speaker 7: Tiffany song, Nick, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know, I know for sure. I just can't think
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 7: I was going to say everybody, everybody knows, like I
Speaker 7: think we're alone now yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the actual music if
Speaker 4: it was like digital, like you know, it was electronic
Speaker 4: or was it like actual instrument It was like, I
Speaker 4: can't remember.
Speaker 7: Everything else that came out sound yeah, I mean, how
Speaker 7: do you even describe as like electronic kind of weirdas sounding? Yeah,
Speaker 7: but yeah, no, I'm I mean, damn Tiffany that bit.
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, I can't believe.
Speaker 2: I can't believe.
Speaker 6: I can't believe you had a story about Tiffany relative
Speaker 6: the process. That's fantastic.
Speaker 7: Well, I just had never heard anybody to make that
Speaker 7: connection before. And you know, sometimes I get stories from
Speaker 7: my brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 7: But I don't know how to put the pieces together.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sure Manson said stuff about Depp, and
Speaker 7: he said stuff about Hunter s Thompson and stuff, but
Speaker 7: then he mentioned this Tiffany and I was like, well,
Speaker 7: what did she have one fucking song in the eighties
Speaker 7: that everybody knows? Like, who is this who is this girl? Anyways?
Speaker 7: And oh my god, now it makes sense.
Speaker 6: So according to Jeff Turner, she's born she's also of
Speaker 6: some some like lees I believe Lebanese heritage, where she's
Speaker 6: like some sort of Soufi hyph priestess much like Tuesday
Speaker 6: Well was born into Celtic hypriestess.
Speaker 2: The way he explains it is like she was born
Speaker 2: to a Sufi hype role.
Speaker 7: And what is this guy's name, Jeff Turner?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll be happy to introduce you in the folks
Speaker 6: of the interwebs to Jeff Turner.
Speaker 4: Here, somebody's asking about Debbie Gibson.
Speaker 6: Now, let me, let me let me find uh, let
Speaker 6: me find the actual trailer tailor. I mean you look up,
Speaker 6: you can look up his videos. There's a whacky dude.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying some of his Uh, somebody.
Speaker 7: Asked about Blondie.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that Blondie Debbie Gibson?
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, wasn't that her name? Oh no, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: google it.
Speaker 2: Ibbi Gibson was a difference here, right?
Speaker 7: Oh was it? What's what was Blondie's name?
Speaker 2: Why can't I find the actual trailer to this documentary?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: Blondie's real name was Angela nevermind fuck me, oh no,
Speaker 7: Debbie Debbie Harry was born Angela Tremble and then became Blondie.
Speaker 7: So her name is Debbie Harry.
Speaker 6: Look, if you want to pop that on screen, all interditional,
Speaker 6: Jeff Turner, like, this guy looks great.
Speaker 9: Known each other most of her life, and known each
Speaker 9: other most different her life, and we are in love
Speaker 9: with each other. And she's a great singer.
Speaker 6: The difference between me and so that's the other stalker
Speaker 6: they put in the film this I don't transfeste. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think it was actually her maprodit I think it
Speaker 6: actually did have think if I recall correctly from watching
Speaker 6: this documentary years ago, they described it as having multiple
Speaker 6: sex organs of some sort because at some point in
Speaker 6: time the autistic fella makes fun of fun of it.
Speaker 2: For that or whatever, it becomes a thing.
Speaker 7: So can I just say before you hit play again
Speaker 7: that this person on screen, if you can't see, looks
Speaker 7: like Annie Lennox and Marilyn Manson mixed together. It's like
Speaker 7: the same.
Speaker 4: You're on point with that.
Speaker 6: They claim they were making the documentary about Turner, and
Speaker 6: they made it more about this character.
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't know.
Speaker 7: I mean they they've already done a great job making
Speaker 7: him look crazy.
Speaker 6: Right, they give them you know, they don't really even
Speaker 6: introduce him. He's just like, Oh, I love Tiffany, and
Speaker 6: then they show you this character.
Speaker 2: And they don't truly love love the individual.
Speaker 9: As a sixteen year old, she was forced to get
Speaker 9: a restraining order against Jeff Dean Turner my whole name
Speaker 9: in there.
Speaker 4: I think you might need a sink some of counseling.
Speaker 2: I might ask nothing like a stalker to laugh about
Speaker 2: the court.
Speaker 7: They god, but I mean, don't autistic people. It's like
Speaker 7: they just say whatever they know, like they have no
Speaker 7: reason to like make stuff up.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. This dude's clearly got alts. You
Speaker 6: have to understand that what I'm saying, I'm willing to
Speaker 6: throw the baby out with the batsup because the stuff
Speaker 6: he says about Tuesday weld and even some of the
Speaker 6: stuff he says about Tiffany checks out she is from
Speaker 6: this weird family.
Speaker 7: Right, Well, so this is this is kind of on
Speaker 7: point and kind of off point. But have you guys
Speaker 7: watched like Love Spectrum on Netflix? You have.
Speaker 4: Twice yes, Okay, So I.
Speaker 7: Really was unfamiliar with how autistic people could be until
Speaker 7: I watched that show. And they don't. They don't. They're
Speaker 7: not big into lying. They will literally tell you all
Speaker 7: about your fucking self, and like they'll be like, I
Speaker 7: don't even I want to go, right, I go on
Speaker 7: a date with you.
Speaker 6: Right, They'll just say some off the wall shit that
Speaker 6: is absolutely accurate and honest, but it's not exactly socially appropriate.
Speaker 7: So that's what I'm saying, is like, yeah, okay, this
Speaker 7: guy's autistic, whatever you want to say about him. He's
Speaker 7: got a weird obsession with Tiffany, which, by the way,
Speaker 7: I'm starting to figure out, a lot of people with
Speaker 7: autism fixate on things that are just like weird obsessions about,
Speaker 7: like dinosaurs and like star Wars or whatever.
Speaker 6: In his weird obsession was Tuesday Wild, so he would
Speaker 6: go to the Many, He would go to the set
Speaker 6: of The Many Lives of Debbie Gillis, much like he
Speaker 6: was stalking, you know, Tiffany as an adult.
Speaker 2: As a young child, his parents were taking him to
Speaker 2: go see Tuesday Wild.
Speaker 7: See, That's what I'm saying is they developed these strange
Speaker 7: interests and they like involved themselves with it, but not
Speaker 7: to the degree of like fabricating stuff, right, They just
Speaker 7: became right right, I think, I think, you know, they
Speaker 7: get so obsessed with it they want to know everything.
Speaker 7: So if there was somebody to ask about this who
Speaker 7: would know literally all the details, it would be a
Speaker 7: guy like that.
Speaker 2: Right, And it's just so weird to me.
Speaker 6: After he drops all these Tuesday Weld details and gets
Speaker 6: published in Steam Shovel Press and Paranoid Magazine and some
Speaker 6: other PubL locations from Adam go Rightley, the author who
Speaker 6: interviewed him, that that film gets made immediately thereafter because.
Speaker 7: They got to make him look like a kook, absolutely
Speaker 7: and put a transvestite Annie Lennox in there. Absolutely what
Speaker 7: what was Annie Lennox was talking about his character.
Speaker 2: The other character in there, Yeah.
Speaker 7: The one that looks like Marilyn Manson, and.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Personal Trainer freak show. You know, it's I
Speaker 6: honestly think, if I recall correctly, I looked up and
Speaker 6: I don't think that person's any longer any longer with us,
Speaker 6: but it's it had a lot of problems.
Speaker 2: They had a lot of problems.
Speaker 7: I could tell.
Speaker 4: I still think a lot of I still think a
Speaker 4: lot of stuff that is filmed as in a reality
Speaker 4: type situation is not at all. I think it's all
Speaker 4: still scripted. And it's like, like me and JJ have
Speaker 4: even said this, like these might be people and maybe
Speaker 4: even a perfect example of Tuesday will this somehow related
Speaker 4: to somebody who are important somehow, either because of a
Speaker 4: club or a family, and they're like, yeah, this is me,
Speaker 4: you could do this. We got this going mm hmm.
Speaker 4: And then that's just their way of getting in there
Speaker 4: and getting something to do and getting money.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, oh go ahead, JJ, No, I was
Speaker 6: just saying again, I think to this guy's situations, it's
Speaker 6: to some degree he's part of these same families as well. Right,
Speaker 6: So apparently Tephanie's Jeffrey Turner, so he is all tests
Speaker 6: he has, you know, I think he's just born into
Speaker 6: a system where he they couldn't use the guy for
Speaker 6: anything else, and he just he just seemed to take
Speaker 6: take notice of everything going on around him.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the way. That's kind of way I
Speaker 2: took his situation.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, because I mean, if you look at some
Speaker 7: of even the people who came out in the sixties,
Speaker 7: some of them weren't even like very talented, but they
Speaker 7: became huge megastars.
Speaker 2: And most were not talented, you know what I'm.
Speaker 7: Saying then, right, Like sure, and there were some that
Speaker 7: could sing and play instruments, but like for the majority,
Speaker 7: was like, is this even good? But they made it good.
Speaker 7: They made it so popular that you think that it's good.
Speaker 2: You know who made it good?
Speaker 6: People like Phil Processed, Phil Spector and process, Bob Cocaine Evans.
Speaker 6: You know, these are the people running the music in
Speaker 6: the movies in Hollywood at the time. Right the Laurel
Speaker 6: Canyon scene, that's all Phil Spector, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right.
Speaker 7: I just you know, I've listened to like Crosby Still
Speaker 7: Nash and the Birds and like all these people, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, they're not extraordinarily talented, you know, vocally or
Speaker 7: I mean, there was some really cool songs that came
Speaker 7: out during that decade. That's why I love it so much.
Speaker 7: But I don't know, it was just like, you know,
Speaker 7: they're all their families are military or like real high up,
Speaker 7: and it's like, Okay, you're gonna sing, now, you're gonna
Speaker 7: do this, now, you're gonna.
Speaker 6: Be exactly now exactly so Turners. Turner's father and stepfather
Speaker 6: were fighter pilots, and apparently Tiffany has some relations to
Speaker 6: that same group of fighter pilots.
Speaker 7: My god, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Though, It's
Speaker 7: like they don't even have to really be that talented
Speaker 7: as long as their family with someone.
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, with Tiffany talented.
Speaker 6: She may be more known for her Playboy apparents showing
Speaker 6: her tits in the nineties than her mall hit in
Speaker 6: the eighties.
Speaker 2: No Shit, No Ship right right after.
Speaker 6: That movie was made with that I Think We're Alone
Speaker 6: Now documentary this guy here in the in the Silicon
Speaker 6: Valley area, some sort of tech blog Metro Silicon Valley
Speaker 6: interviews Jeffrey Deane Turner there, you know, in the aftermath
Speaker 6: of that film, and is obviously roasting him, but he
Speaker 6: goes over a lot of the details that Turner tells
Speaker 6: him and the and their and their lunch they had together,
Speaker 6: including which that that Turner claims that he met Charles
Speaker 6: Manson in the late sixties but refused being doctrinated into
Speaker 6: his family, and he also met David Berkowitz, the son
Speaker 6: of same serial killer, when he used to hang out
Speaker 6: in the South Bay in the seventies, makes a lot
Speaker 6: of sense. Mouth makes a lot of sense. Oh my god,
Speaker 6: all process stuff, It's certainly possible in my opinion.
Speaker 7: I wanted to shout out out somebody I saw in
Speaker 7: the comments, Tara, what's up girl? Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you. But you know, the Son of Sam thing,
Speaker 7: if you really look into it, you and I did
Speaker 7: program to kill on occult rejects before, and he's in there,
Speaker 7: and you know, it's it's like he can't even he
Speaker 7: can't even be placed at the scene for some of
Speaker 7: the murders that he went down for, and yet he
Speaker 7: gets blamed for everything. And he tried to say, like,
Speaker 7: there's a much bigger thing going on. There's multiple layers.
Speaker 7: This is this is like I mean, is it process?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 6: I have another show coming up on Wednesday night talking
Speaker 6: precisely this on the same in the process with author
Speaker 6: Jonathan Mitchell, so you know.
Speaker 7: What I'm talking about. Then that he said like, hey,
Speaker 7: this is a way bigger thing.
Speaker 2: Oh for not just me.
Speaker 7: I didn't do all this. I'm so I mean.
Speaker 6: You signed a memorandum stating all that nineteen ninety six
Speaker 6: and witness not only by Mary Terry, the author of
Speaker 6: Ultimate Evil, but there's another party whose names Escaping Me.
Speaker 6: He's also signed there. He names people like Roy Cone,
Speaker 6: donald Trump's mentors, being a member of the knew it.
Speaker 7: I knew it, dude.
Speaker 4: Something off with.
Speaker 7: Roy Cone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you you and and you and I think maybe
Speaker 4: JJ both have brought his name up multiple times.
Speaker 7: Oh, I talked about that is a piece of shit.
Speaker 7: And it's like it's, like I said before, I think
Speaker 7: maybe it was in the Program to Kill episode. But
Speaker 7: it's like, all right, we're gonna take all of these
Speaker 7: people that Donald Trump knows that are like his mentors
Speaker 7: and stuff, people like Roy Khne and and they're known
Speaker 7: to be pieces of shit, and we're just gonna disregard
Speaker 7: that they have any connection to each other. Why is that? Like,
Speaker 7: I don't understand it.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess that's sometimes I wonder if
Speaker 4: that's like part of the magic in itself. I think, well,
Speaker 4: it's it's almost as if like I think, you know,
Speaker 4: I've heard somebody say that they they think they saw
Speaker 4: this happen with I can't remember, some some kind of newscaster,
Speaker 4: but like people like start to almost kind of build
Speaker 4: like some false relationship with this person and almost start
Speaker 4: having feelings for them even though they've never met. And
Speaker 4: it's so hard to believe something bad about someone after that.
Speaker 4: And if you look at a lot of Trump supporters,
Speaker 4: they're they're infatuated with the guy.
Speaker 7: Well, they think he's like a messiah or something.
Speaker 4: So it's so hard to After that guy came out
Speaker 4: on what was it, day day two and started talking
Speaker 4: about the vaccines, I don't know how most Trump supporters
Speaker 4: weren't like, what the fuck.
Speaker 7: Dude, But they're in love with one hundred. They're in
Speaker 7: love with them, and it's like it's like he's best
Speaker 7: he's with or it was at least besties with Epstein. Right,
Speaker 7: we're gonna forget that one too, I guess, even though
Speaker 7: there's pictures of him together. You know, we're gonna forget
Speaker 7: about Roy JJ. Youre muted.
Speaker 2: Apstely never heard of him?
Speaker 7: Oh right, you're right, never heard of him, never heard,
Speaker 7: never heard of him. I guess that's like I said,
Speaker 7: that's another one that they want you to forget about.
Speaker 7: But this Roy Cohne guy, Oh my god, JJ, you
Speaker 7: got to tell Nick more about him sometime he's he's
Speaker 7: literally like, wasn't he the one with the violet scandal
Speaker 7: or whatever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did it, we did.
Speaker 6: Uh, we're gonna We're gonna do some more on and
Speaker 6: I think, but we did it on the last one
Speaker 6: of the Mormons and uh with the HETI love. We
Speaker 6: did a whole series of Mormons and parapolitics. And Roy
Speaker 6: Cone comes into play because he's on the board of
Speaker 6: Perman Decks and that you FK situation along along with
Speaker 6: the Clay Shaw, the man that Jim Garrison charged, and
Speaker 6: the and Joseph Banano, the head of the Five Families.
Speaker 6: He was the head of Banana family, but he was
Speaker 6: the head of the board of the Five Families at
Speaker 6: the time in New York City. They're all sitting on
Speaker 6: this weird multinational corporation board that's in charge of American presidents.
Speaker 6: Like they try to mark the French president twice m.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he was wasn't he doing something around the
Speaker 7: time like the Franklin scandal was going on where they
Speaker 7: were bringing little boys to the White House and stuff.
Speaker 7: That was Roy Cohne's time.
Speaker 2: I think he was he was dead at that time.
Speaker 2: I think he's like he.
Speaker 6: I think he died just prior to the Franklin I
Speaker 6: mean he may have been evolved in the Franklin scandal
Speaker 6: by all means, I'm I wouldn't doubt it. The man
Speaker 6: was well connected in politics and Devlin. So, but I
Speaker 6: think he died of age in eighty six.
Speaker 7: Well he I remember Paul Banasi saying something about him.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he may he made I don't know enough of
Speaker 6: the details about the Franklin stuff. He may very well
Speaker 6: come up with that. He because obviously the Franklin scandal
Speaker 6: may got outed in the eighties, but it was obviously
Speaker 6: going on a lot longer.
Speaker 7: Than that, right yep, yep, yep, yep. It went all
Speaker 7: the way into the nineties with that civil trial.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: So but anyways, that's besides the point. Roy Cone knows
Speaker 7: the son of Sam Oh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he claimed to meet him and gone to his parties.
Speaker 6: They all hung out to the Studio fifty four together.
Speaker 6: So another member of the colt was allegedly an aid
Speaker 6: to the mayor Abe Beam.
Speaker 2: That man was.
Speaker 6: Also that was he left that job and became roy
Speaker 6: Cone's law partner in the late seventies. There their clients
Speaker 6: were the Studio fifty four owners, That's what.
Speaker 7: And then he went on to be Trump's mentor.
Speaker 6: Oh, he's already mentor at this point. He meets Trump
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy three, Roger Stone introduces the two Roger
Speaker 6: Stone just meets Trump. He says, Hey, you got to
Speaker 6: meet my friend Roy Cone. So Donald had just hired
Speaker 6: him in seventy minutes, crazy seventy eight. I think it's
Speaker 6: seventy eight. You can find a picture of it.
Speaker 2: It's called.
Speaker 6: Called Roy Cones fifty second birthday party at Studio fifty four.
Speaker 6: It was a vandy Fair article and stuff. Roy Cones
Speaker 6: got like on a little leash, like a little cross dressing.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump right next to him there at his party.
Speaker 6: He's think, Donald's twenty eight.
Speaker 2: You have that picture he just hired. I'll find it.
Speaker 6: He just hires Roy Cone as his attorney for this
Speaker 6: building he's purchasing, and then Roy's having his birthday party
Speaker 6: at the club where his other clients he's representing in
Speaker 6: some coke trafficking, the Studio fifty four owners. You know,
Speaker 6: that was basically so according to Burkewitz, Studio fiftyour was
Speaker 6: essentially the Processed Church hangout.
Speaker 7: So he's hanging out, So roy is hanging out with
Speaker 7: the son of Sam Berkowitz and Trump cross dressed on
Speaker 7: a leash all during the same time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6: I like to look at it like this that somewhere
Speaker 6: around Sirraa nineteen seventies seventy seven, you may have, in fact,
Speaker 6: had Donald Trump, Roy Cone, David Berkowitz, and Michael Jackson
Speaker 6: moonwalking around the dance floor of Studio fifty four together.
Speaker 7: I can't shut the fuck absolutely up.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they were all there.
Speaker 7: This is why, this is why I can't get on
Speaker 7: board with any politics whatsoever. It's like you literally, you
Speaker 7: literally cannot choose a team when it comes to this
Speaker 7: stuff because they're all just cross dressing processed Church members exactly.
Speaker 6: Oh, this is this is the article about. But the
Speaker 6: birthday boy Roy Cone is fifty two. At fifty four,
Speaker 6: I'll to find the picture. But in this article you'll
Speaker 6: see another person who I like to who's got connections
Speaker 6: to the next Sium colt or as I like to
Speaker 6: call them, the Albany Chapter of the Processed Church, and
Speaker 6: that is here at Roy k They go over all
Speaker 6: the people to show up here at Roy Cone's birthday party,
Speaker 6: and I'll go over.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has listened here too.
Speaker 6: But you got mob figures, you got, you know, mayors,
Speaker 6: you got you know, you got judges, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, District court judges.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And then you scroll down here and see, uh, Chuck
Speaker 6: Schumer Junior. Wow, newcomer, Chuck Schumer, a reform assemblyman from Brooklyn.
Speaker 6: He's not even he's not even US Congress yet, this
Speaker 6: is he's assembly man from Brooklyn. Why he was just
Speaker 6: the date of a gossip columnist. He Suckroy off.
Speaker 7: He sucked him off and became.
Speaker 6: I would argue, is the reason why he's connected to
Speaker 6: the next to him stuff now is because he was
Speaker 6: connected to the process stuff back then and he.
Speaker 7: Was sucking dudes off. I'm telling you, I.
Speaker 2: Think that you have accept that going in the door,
Speaker 2: I think right, right?
Speaker 7: Have you guys ever watched Adventures in Babysitting and it's
Speaker 7: like you, nobody leaves his place without singing the blues, well,
Speaker 7: without sucking the dick.
Speaker 3: So that's right.
Speaker 7: Hey, wasn't that Chuck Berry in that that said that
Speaker 7: nobody gets out of here without singing the blues? That
Speaker 7: was Chuck Berry?
Speaker 2: Was that really Chuck Berry? Holy shiite? Movieon?
Speaker 3: So long?
Speaker 2: Erry ye, so long?
Speaker 6: Is that around the same time he was filming, he
Speaker 6: was filming prostitutes to fart in his mouth?
Speaker 4: Oh come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: When they raided they raided his house in the late nineties,
Speaker 6: early I think it was late nineties. He had installed
Speaker 6: cameras and all these kfcas and taco bells across the
Speaker 6: Midwest that he owned in women's toilets, and he got
Speaker 6: in The FEDS rated the restaurants in his house about that.
Speaker 6: When they raided his house, the FED seized a box
Speaker 6: of videos of him recording himself hiring hookers just to
Speaker 6: fart in their mouths, and he uh, the Feds released this.
Speaker 2: The reason why this came out, somebody leads into the tabloys,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 7: What I mean, So like, oh my god, nobody gets
Speaker 7: out of this taco bell without farting in my mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But he'd already been a convicted you know, child
Speaker 6: saxophone in remain act decades prior when he got busted
Speaker 6: for filming women in bathroom toilets. That of restaurants he owned. O,
Speaker 6: my god, Taco Bell Barry, Yeah right, Taco Bell all places.
Speaker 4: JJ. This might be the picture. I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 4: up on the screens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 4: I was looking for this is it?
Speaker 2: That's it? Eight year old Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, it's just like and uh you know
Speaker 7: they'd got they dressed him up as a girl too.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So, according according to this article about that party right there,
Speaker 2: Trump has just hired Roy Cone to be his attorneys.
Speaker 6: Well that again, that's you probably do that in the
Speaker 6: in the coat room before you can get into the
Speaker 6: actual place. The crowd from my recent voice series was
Speaker 6: their thirty two year old developer of the Commodore Hotel
Speaker 6: and the Convention Center, Donald Trump. So he had just
Speaker 6: right prior to this photograph, he had just hired Roy
Speaker 6: Cone as his attorney. But he'd known Roy for about
Speaker 6: six years, about five years.
Speaker 7: That's how that's why he knew to show up to
Speaker 7: the party in full drag.
Speaker 2: Some folks, if you have some folks, there's some folks
Speaker 2: in the Son of Sam community.
Speaker 6: I'm not one of them, but there's there are some
Speaker 6: folks in the Son of Sam community that think one
Speaker 6: of the sketches of these shooters looks a lot.
Speaker 2: Like Donald Trump. Oh, it would have been about twenty
Speaker 2: six at the time.
Speaker 7: Woww yes, yes, you know. My somebody in my family
Speaker 7: the other day they sent me this hoodie. They were like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, I gotta get this. And it was
Speaker 7: a picture of Donald Trump in front of the White
Speaker 7: House and it said Daddy's Home. And I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna kill myself if I see another thing
Speaker 7: like this. I mean, it's just so yeah, Daddy's home
Speaker 7: to suck Dixon the White House, you know, right, look
Speaker 7: at this stuff.
Speaker 2: At it.
Speaker 7: He probably flirted in his mouth right after.
Speaker 6: This picture mistaken, So he would have been twenty five
Speaker 6: at the time of this sketch.
Speaker 2: Right here, I believe.
Speaker 4: Trump was yelling, drill, baby, drill.
Speaker 2: Here, here's the here's the son of Sam sketch. Shooter
Speaker 2: sketch looks.
Speaker 6: A lot like Donald Trump, with or without drag. This
Speaker 6: would have been a couple of years pre drag. This
Speaker 6: has been seventy six. That was seventy nine.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, look at that. It looks like freaking
Speaker 7: what's his son's name, Baron, Baron. Look at that picture.
Speaker 7: That's the young you know young right there.
Speaker 6: I suppose the circumstantial argument could be made he did
Speaker 6: know Roy Cohen, who Berkowitz claimed was a member of
Speaker 6: the process. But now I have never seen anything that
Speaker 6: claim burkowitzknew Donald Trump or claimed he was one of
Speaker 6: the shooters. He's identified all of these shooters as somebody else.
Speaker 6: But there is you know, there is this sketch that
Speaker 6: people like this. You know, hey, why does this look
Speaker 6: like him?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 7: Literally, why does it look like him? Damn, that is
Speaker 7: got to be him. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 7: That looks just like if you sell like, because I've
Speaker 7: studied the zodiac and they have like the zodiac, compile
Speaker 7: it sketch and every single person they try to put
Speaker 7: next to it and say, oh, this was the zodiac,
Speaker 7: this was the Zodiac. I'm like, dude, that looks nothing
Speaker 7: like the composite sketch. I would know that Trump without
Speaker 7: even seeing the side by side like that looks uncay
Speaker 7: and he as fun you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's funny. The hair even fits him. Today's still
Speaker 4: the wow, it's like very sometimes stick on one side
Speaker 4: and the weird eyebrow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture of them at
Speaker 6: that time. I can't find a picture by the age
Speaker 6: of twenty five or twenty six, like.
Speaker 7: One of them sticks up way more than the other one.
Speaker 7: That's crazy, dead dead river for real, for real? Yes,
Speaker 7: oh thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it does. It does have bear resemblance.
Speaker 2: There's no question.
Speaker 5: I mean, you just blew my entire mind because I've
Speaker 5: talked about Roy Roy Kane for the last like year now,
Speaker 5: since I read the pet the I covered it in
Speaker 5: the Pedophocracy series, but since I read Program to Kill
Speaker 5: and I found out about him and his connection to Trump,
Speaker 5: I've been talking about him, and I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, people need a lookit into this guy because he's
Speaker 7: fucked up. But I didn't note to the to the
Speaker 7: degree cross dressing and shit like that son of Sam
Speaker 7: process Church.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I don't think. I don't think Donald
Speaker 6: Trump knew Tuesday well, but he definitely knew her. Cousin
Speaker 6: Bill Weld.
Speaker 7: Mmm, you know the politicians crazy?
Speaker 2: I wonder Bill Weld ran againstm Right in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Right he was, He was the Libertarian Party's VP against
Speaker 6: Trump a twenty sixteen Bill Weld, can.
Speaker 7: You find a recent picture of her? I feel like
Speaker 7: that would be a good way to sum everything up.
Speaker 7: I just wonder what she lives like now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's actually aged decently, you know, as far as
Speaker 6: you know, comparison to like you were saying, Marilyn Monroeane Mansfield,
Speaker 6: I guess right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, who died very ritualistically.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield knew the under sad cult people,
Speaker 6: damn it.
Speaker 7: She was also on the.
Speaker 2: Westchester Politician, Westchester County Politician.
Speaker 7: That's nuts.
Speaker 2: She was on She's Buried there.
Speaker 7: The album cover for Magical Mystery Tour. Okay, you know
Speaker 7: the Beatles cover that's got like all different Sergeant Peppers, sorry,
Speaker 7: Sergeant Peppers. She's right there, and she's commonly mistaken to
Speaker 7: be Marilyn Monroe. But it's Jane Jane Mansfield.
Speaker 6: Okay, I know what you're talking about. That's Jane Mansfield,
Speaker 6: not Marilyn Monroe. I wonder if you like Tuesday Weld
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: I wonder if you picked apart all those people, if
Speaker 4: you'd see some sort of commonality between all.
Speaker 7: You should pull it up, because actually I have one.
Speaker 7: I was is that her right there?
Speaker 2: That's supposedly her in twenty twenty she don't look terrible. No,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: She doesn't look you know, she's got her hair, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, seems maybe have her teeth still,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it looks like her skin is pretty smooth, probably
Speaker 7: from all the Yeah.
Speaker 2: She doesn't. She doesn't look too much like a demon dushy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she probably got baby Dick's skin injected into her
Speaker 7: face or whatever they do baby scrot the blood. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: all like creams and ointments. They reb on each other's
Speaker 7: bee holes, right, But yeah, no, Nick, pull up that
Speaker 7: cover because I actually I feel like this is the
Speaker 7: cover that people talk about was like one of the
Speaker 7: major signals that the old Paul had died and was
Speaker 7: replaced by the new Paul. And if you really look
Speaker 7: at it, there are so many things in there, even
Speaker 7: beside Jane's Jane Mansfield, which she was killed in a
Speaker 7: car the same way that they say the old Paul
Speaker 7: was killed in a car wreck. Sure, so right, I
Speaker 7: do feel like that's significant because if you were going
Speaker 7: to put somebody on there and everybody mistakes it as
Speaker 7: being Marilyn Monroe, but it's like they both the old
Speaker 7: Paul supposedly and Jane Mansfield died in like horrific car accidents.
Speaker 2: Well, that's definitely, that's definitely a different Paul. There's no
Speaker 2: way that's the same Paul.
Speaker 7: Yeah, to me, it's not. If you look. If you look,
Speaker 7: it's like the new Beatles are burying the dead. See
Speaker 7: if you look at the original Beatles, it's like they're
Speaker 7: all sad and they're mourning and they're looking at the grave.
Speaker 7: And then it's like a super tall Paul in blue
Speaker 7: that's way taller than the Paul over here, because he
Speaker 7: was supposedly like six inches taller than the old Paul.
Speaker 7: And they definitely you can see that. And then they
Speaker 7: have right over there Jane Mansfield front and uh, she's
Speaker 7: right in the very front row, commonly mistaken for Marilyn
Speaker 7: Monroe in the gold dress. There's also I think Edgar
Speaker 7: Allan Poe he died weird. Uh, there's Alistair Crowley in
Speaker 7: the back, Carl Marks yep, if you I don't know, so,
Speaker 7: I guess it would be my top left. You can
Speaker 7: see Alistair Crowley right. There isn't Hitler in here somewhere too.
Speaker 7: I feel like.
Speaker 2: Marlon Brando mm hmmm.
Speaker 7: I mean Marylyn Marilyn Monroe is in there. She's in
Speaker 7: black and white. Yeah, but she's not the center of attention,
Speaker 7: not like Jane over here. And they're standing out a grave,
Speaker 7: which I've always thought was significant, Like why are they
Speaker 7: standing at a grave with the old Beetles like sad
Speaker 7: and crying and shit? Right, I just I don't know.
Speaker 7: There's something about the little girl in the chair too,
Speaker 7: with the red and white striped shirt on right there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: there's something about that too. Oh, I wish I could
Speaker 7: go back. I did an episode on it, and there
Speaker 7: there's something it looks like it's got like it's like
Speaker 7: a blood welcome the Rolling Stones and it looks like
Speaker 7: it's like splattered with blood.
Speaker 4: Creepy, Yeah, like on the armor actually does something like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So there's something about that too. It was like
Speaker 7: the transitioning between the Old Beetles and the New Beetles
Speaker 7: and the Rolling Stones something like that. It was around
Speaker 7: like the same time. I can't remember when they replaced Paul.
Speaker 2: But it was right before this sixty six.
Speaker 6: This is sixty seven mm hmmm, twenty years ago today
Speaker 6: Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play.
Speaker 2: Is often assumed they're talking about Crowley. He died, so.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean I think this is one of
Speaker 7: those rabbit holes you can go down because it's just
Speaker 7: such a hodgepodge of like weird stuff and like why
Speaker 7: why put it together in that way?
Speaker 2: Well, their process, I mean you're doing, yeah, weird process stuff.
Speaker 2: Well that's where that's where John matt Yoko was it
Speaker 2: the Process? Mayfair? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6: It was owned by Paul McCarty, the original Paul's girlfriend's brother,
Speaker 6: Jane Asher, was his girlfriend. Peter Asher, major major music
Speaker 6: producer guy in Hollywood till this till this day. I
Speaker 6: think he's associated with the p DDY stuff. I'm not
Speaker 6: mistaken that he was a member of the Process and
Speaker 6: he owned the coffee shop and headquarters over there in
Speaker 6: the Mayfair district. Their first cousin, Jane and Peter Asher's
Speaker 6: first cousin, lives in canab Utah today.
Speaker 2: She's an og member of the Process.
Speaker 7: So do you know if the guy who shot John
Speaker 7: Lennon was Process?
Speaker 2: Because we were just talking about that.
Speaker 6: Actually, we were just talking about that Friday night, weren't we, Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 6: we were on our Friday night show. We were talking
Speaker 6: why do we start tall because our guest was talking
Speaker 6: about the jfk assassination in Lenin Van's and I was like,
Speaker 6: I know a Lenin Van and there's a guy that
Speaker 6: drives around America claiming that Stephen King murdered John Lennon.
Speaker 2: But we started talking about the process and everything else. Really,
Speaker 2: are you know from air Stephen King murder John Lennon.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't put it past him, right because I know
Speaker 7: that the guy that they blamed it on, Mark David
Speaker 7: Wasn't that his name? Chapman Chapman Yep, he was a
Speaker 7: good friend of Kenneth Anger. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He had some connections right to scientology too, I believe right.
Speaker 7: So I just wondered if the process came in and
Speaker 7: anywhere with that.
Speaker 4: It's interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look more into it. I mean, it happened
Speaker 2: to Dakota Building.
Speaker 6: That's where Bob Cocaine Evans and Roman Polanski film There's
Speaker 6: Satanist Ship. Show of the film Rosemary Baby was supposed
Speaker 6: to start Tuesday. Well until she turned it down.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, you go, there's the tie back.
Speaker 7: It was supposed to be Tuesday. The High Priestess Witch
Speaker 7: herself no I'm.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's more to the lend murder there with
Speaker 2: the process, for sure, quite.
Speaker 7: Positive, who fucking even knows, But yeah, I think this
Speaker 7: is a really great place for people to, like, if
Speaker 7: they've never looked into her, or if they're this this
Speaker 7: is like the first time they're ever hearing about her,
Speaker 7: to go and just look at her Wikipedia, because there's
Speaker 7: you know, if you start at the top and you
Speaker 7: just go all the way down, there's so many things
Speaker 7: in there you just would not believe like she's connected
Speaker 7: to or that she people, that she knew, the circles
Speaker 7: she traveled in. And some people have even speculated that
Speaker 7: that plane crash with Buddy Hawley and the Big Bopper
Speaker 7: and Richie Allen's was like the sacrifice that ascended Tuesday
Speaker 7: into the counterculture movement.
Speaker 2: I'm glad, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you
Speaker 2: date music, right, Yeah, yeah, by dominic Queen right, Hi, Yes?
Speaker 6: Would you believe that domin Clean's forefather is first of all,
Speaker 6: domin Lean's a member of the Society of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: His forefather wasn't well a potential member. His forefather was
Speaker 2: a member.
Speaker 6: His paternal forefather and his paternal forefather most certainly knew
Speaker 6: Eliza Weld, Colonel.
Speaker 2: Eliza Weld there and they served together.
Speaker 7: So maybe maybe that's what the connection is though, because
Speaker 7: they say that's.
Speaker 1: What it was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like there were there rumored to be
Speaker 6: dating right, Weld and MacLean, Right, and that's what he
Speaker 6: writes that song about the tribute to the power well
Speaker 6: the whold their families have history together.
Speaker 7: Holy ship, because I never I never what the tie
Speaker 7: was because they said, you know that plane crash, it
Speaker 7: was the sacrifice for Tuesday, and then she was supposed
Speaker 7: to like ascend into whatever, and then the the American
Speaker 7: Pie song was supposed to be about that and about.
Speaker 6: And then oh my god, do you know the source
Speaker 6: of that sale you just described No, Jeffrey Dean Turner
Speaker 6: the autistic man in the Kitchen to sing to say California. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that was from the Rightley series. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. The dude's onto something, right, He's got
Speaker 6: you make some good points. He makes some good points.
Speaker 7: I want to meet the fucker. I want to mind
Speaker 7: my show.
Speaker 2: He's still alive. You could probably should probably contact him.
Speaker 6: But that song is definitely about that song is definitely
Speaker 6: about a ritual. I mean the last the last the
Speaker 6: entire last verse is all about is it mentioned Satan twice?
Speaker 6: The tanic rituals? Everything else?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 7: One of my favorite songs too, is crazy you know,
Speaker 7: you know when you the first time you hear it,
Speaker 7: Like I was a kid the first time I heard it,
Speaker 7: and you just sing it, you know, and passing because
Speaker 7: it's catchy, but it means something totally different to me
Speaker 7: as an adult. Yeah, I mean. And by the way,
Speaker 7: if I was to ever get in contact with this
Speaker 7: autistic guy, I would not want to interview him alone.
Speaker 7: I would definitely need back.
Speaker 2: We know, if you get ahold of him several people
Speaker 2: you get ahold of the moment, I'll come. I'll come
Speaker 2: question the man. I'll talk and autism with the guy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you are not autistic, are you?
Speaker 6: I don't I've ever been tested. My son is extremely
Speaker 6: He's definitely autistic.
Speaker 2: But you know that.
Speaker 7: I've mentioned to Colby before because like we've done shows together,
Speaker 7: and I'll be like, the way JJ can recall information,
Speaker 7: you know, maybe you are autistic. I don't know, dude,
Speaker 7: Like I can't remember ship the way you can.
Speaker 6: My son's got me. My son's got me beat you know,
Speaker 6: he's a he was diagnosed, so they never sent me
Speaker 6: to a doctor. I'm just saying, like he and I
Speaker 6: operate on the same wavelength.
Speaker 7: No for sure, Like I have to have notes. I
Speaker 7: have to you know, go back because I'll forget shit
Speaker 7: and like be trying to go off my memory and
Speaker 7: I can't remember shit. But some of the stuff that
Speaker 7: you bring up, I'm like, how the fuck does he
Speaker 7: remember all this? It's like verbatim quotes and like places
Speaker 7: and like stuff in history.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll do some autism and autism with the
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Den Turner sometime.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you have to be there, But no, thanks for having
Speaker 7: me on though, you guys. I think this was a
Speaker 7: really cool episode.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, No, for sure.
Speaker 2: I had a great time. I got one question before you, Julia.
Speaker 6: So you know, not necessarily a Laurel Canyon, you know band,
Speaker 6: but obviously not really Hollywood band either, for you know
Speaker 6: la scene at all. Really, but Leonard Skinners they saying
Speaker 6: Tuesday's Gone in nineteen seventy three and they're playing crack
Speaker 6: she is in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on?
Speaker 4: Oh shit, what?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, family my favorite band.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite band. I can't forget.
Speaker 7: I love Skinnard. Oh my god, it's like one of
Speaker 7: my favees.
Speaker 3: Geez.
Speaker 2: August nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 6: The jam Tuesday's gone August nineteen seventy seven, most of
Speaker 6: the band was gone.
Speaker 2: Well excellent.
Speaker 7: If anybody's told my well, I think I've actually talked
Speaker 7: to Dick about this before. But if anybody's followed my
Speaker 7: show for a while, they know that I've put together
Speaker 7: all these like weird things that happen in August or
Speaker 7: around eights and stuff like Marilyn Monroe died in August.
Speaker 7: Tuesday Weld was born in August. Apparently they came out
Speaker 7: with this song in August and then died what August
Speaker 7: the next year.
Speaker 6: October seventy seven is when Skinner October, which it claimed
Speaker 6: most of the band.
Speaker 2: I think all but three three members. I think we're
Speaker 2: all well killed there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, I mean I think it's weird. Did the song?
Speaker 7: Did you say the song came out in August?
Speaker 2: Yeah, August the seventy three, I believe it was.
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, so, I mean there's just we have this August.
Speaker 6: August thirteenth, that was August ninth. Was August the ninth
Speaker 6: of the the tenth, tenth, and eleventh, I think were
Speaker 6: the Manson murders, right, is that?
Speaker 2: Is that right? August tenth and eleventh.
Speaker 7: It's always August nineteen sixty nine. Hmm, it's always August.
Speaker 7: If people look and they see, like if you even
Speaker 7: google like tragedies that happened in August, celebrities that died
Speaker 7: in August, it's like it's astounding the amount of stuff
Speaker 7: that that has went down that seems super ritualistic to
Speaker 7: me in August, Like when did when did Buddy When
Speaker 7: did the Buddy Holly plane go down? Was that August? No?
Speaker 2: I think that was February.
Speaker 7: February, Okay, I had a whole list of these August things.
Speaker 7: I wish I had that list still so I could
Speaker 7: tell you some of the stuff.
Speaker 6: But oh, there's a lot of zodiac stuff popping off
Speaker 6: along with Man's and stuff right in August that same year, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think John Bennet was born in August you know,
Speaker 7: just the more you look for it, you'll find it.
Speaker 7: And it used to not be significant in me, but
Speaker 7: then the more I started looking into it, it's like, oh,
Speaker 7: another August, another August, another August, and so it's kind
Speaker 7: of mean something.
Speaker 6: Given these cult folks we're talking about in their affinity
Speaker 6: for the Star Sirius, this ancient alien cargo cult systems
Speaker 6: these people all subscribe to and their affinity for the
Speaker 6: Star system serious or dog Star?
Speaker 2: Is this going on during the dog days of summer?
Speaker 2: What you're describing it sounds like it is.
Speaker 7: It is, Yeah, because I wanted to look further into it.
Speaker 7: I don't want to tangent too hard, but you know
Speaker 7: Santos Binacci right in his Holy Science and you know
Speaker 7: the zodiacting, and it does.
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with this guy mix.
Speaker 7: He's a cool guy.
Speaker 4: It actually follows me on Instagram. I was like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's a bigger he has.
Speaker 4: I think he's done some great work. I just think
Speaker 4: he's getting a little old and a little fright out
Speaker 4: at this point. That's all.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think he's done the same presentation so many times.
Speaker 7: He's he's kind of burned himself out on it, but
Speaker 7: the information is still really cool. And he talks about
Speaker 7: the Dog days, the serious dog days of summer, and
Speaker 7: he talks about significant things happening during that time because
Speaker 7: it's under the sign of Leo and the sun worship,
Speaker 7: and most of these cults and a lot of religions
Speaker 7: are based off of sun worship. I think Catholicism is
Speaker 7: one of the most guilty parties of sun worship. But
Speaker 7: you know, August is Leo, it's the it's the Sun,
Speaker 7: and it's also the dog days, the serious days, so
Speaker 7: it's literally like multiple things at one time during that
Speaker 7: part of the year.
Speaker 2: So cargo cults love sirious, all of them.
Speaker 6: The more the process, all the Rosicrucians, the Masons, they
Speaker 6: all love serious. Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Uh.
Speaker 7: The civilization that built go Beckley Tepe built it in
Speaker 7: alignment with Serious. It's anciently old. The ancient civilization that
Speaker 7: built gig and Tea it's on Malta, they built it
Speaker 7: in alignment with the Star Serious. If you look at
Speaker 7: the Truman Show even there are several mentions to Serious
Speaker 7: in the Truman Show with Jim Carrey and also Jim Carrey,
Speaker 7: the Mask it's a it's a story about Serious and Loki.
Speaker 7: So I mean it's every if you look for the mask, yeah,
Speaker 7: the yeah, the folkal are behind the mask. The real
Speaker 7: mask is about Loki and uh dog star Sirius. So
Speaker 7: if you look for it, serious symbology is everywhere. It
Speaker 7: is everywhere, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Plates are better than Serious. What does that mean?
Speaker 6: But somebody says that, Well, I just wonder because that's
Speaker 6: who founded the town of Moscow, Idaho.
Speaker 2: Was this Plates club?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they started the university.
Speaker 6: There was the wife of the first president and six
Speaker 6: wives of six administrators or teachers. They were seven sisters
Speaker 6: of Plates. There's Plates Club. That's seems to be some
Speaker 6: occult origins of that town. I just I don't know
Speaker 6: enough about Plates. I don't know enough about Stars.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in him.
Speaker 6: Nazi's describing to me, and so did kid Diddlers, and
Speaker 6: I don't believe in anything either one of those.
Speaker 7: Parties say, well, they seem to believe in it. That's
Speaker 7: what I care about. I want to know why.
Speaker 2: I want to know why need something.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying I don't believe in what they're describing
Speaker 6: it as, right, Like I'm sure something right, Yeah, some
Speaker 6: kind of affecting there is.
Speaker 7: This is al you can look into JJ. It's called
Speaker 7: the the the Order of the Solar Temple. They were
Speaker 7: also I think they were dog stars, serious followers.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's funny. That just reminded me. No, Lie,
Speaker 4: I recorded part one of a two part series or
Speaker 4: that with Thrash and Mike probably eight months ago.
Speaker 7: And never came about the Solar Temple.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we never got to part two yet. I totally forgot.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so yeah. Yeah, it is wild
Speaker 4: latantly cult. It's blatantly a cult. They didn't hide anything.
Speaker 4: They burned places down, killed people. There was multiple suicides
Speaker 4: choreographed in different countries.
Speaker 7: In Switzerland and France. And they also took all of
Speaker 7: their inspiration from Alice Bailey, who was at the YEA. Yeah,
Speaker 7: to go back to theosophy, Alice Bailey with the New
Speaker 7: Age ideals.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like the way.
Speaker 6: Wikipedia describes this cult variously described as a sooteric new
Speaker 6: religious movement, a neo templar group, a rosa Crucian organization,
Speaker 6: a doomsday or suicide call, a new magical movement, a
Speaker 6: magical esoteric religion or a secret society, among many other descriptors.
Speaker 2: These people there, they got a lot of skill sets,
Speaker 2: are pretty prolific.
Speaker 7: I like, I like this called dude JJ. Body count
Speaker 7: is seventy four.
Speaker 2: For this guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that's multiple countries I think are involved, like
Speaker 4: possibly yeah too, at least I think they.
Speaker 6: Jim Jones situation. These are independent activities of seventy four.
Speaker 7: They're independent and it spanned over three years of death.
Speaker 7: Good lord, Yes, you got to look into him. Man,
Speaker 7: They're they're fucking balls to the wall, nuts so crazy.
Speaker 6: Definitely will nix't been telling about him too, for sure.
Speaker 6: I'll definitely look into him, thank you. Yeah, so I
Speaker 6: see the serious worship there too. Yeah, they're Yes, it's
Speaker 6: always serious, it's always.
Speaker 7: But yeah, no, guys, this was a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: That's what mind blowing to me.
Speaker 6: I've been looking forward to talking Tuesday Well and I
Speaker 6: appreciated Julia that I, you know, had an opportunity to
Speaker 6: share some Tuesday Well thoughts with you here today. Hell yeah,
Speaker 6: let me let me know if you get ahold of
Speaker 6: that autistic pill, I'll be happy to help.
Speaker 7: I will let I'll let you know if I get.
Speaker 7: You know what, the most mind blowing part of this
Speaker 7: show for me was cross dressing Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I think, there you go, God you that was a
Speaker 2: hunter nightmares from now on. Cross dressing Trump on a leash.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's so crazy to me. David Burka WIT's in
Speaker 7: the background.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, parting it up out all the place, just
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: We don't know if he was there. We don't know
Speaker 2: if he's Oh.
Speaker 7: He was there, come on, and.
Speaker 4: He's just pumping, oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Singing his number one hit, My Dangling. It's a real song.
Speaker 6: It's a real song. Was the number one hit for him?
Speaker 7: Oh god, no way. Maybe we should do Maybe we
Speaker 7: should do the next one on Chuck Berry.
Speaker 4: Maybe you might actually find some decent stuff in that.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: Nobody gets tabloid articles.
Speaker 7: Right, nobody gets out of touching my Dangling.
Speaker 6: I appreciate your all's time today with the Tuesday Wells conversation,
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 2: Any of the folks of the interwebs.
Speaker 4: All right, you good, We're done.
Speaker 2: Gotta closing savements, you gotta closing thoughts there?
Speaker 4: Uh no, not really no, I thought it was really good.
Speaker 4: Like again, I feel bad I didn't have anything to add.
Speaker 4: But I mean it was just this just interesting, so
Speaker 4: many different things that it connects to. I even like,
Speaker 4: not to bring it back up, but even starting to follow.
Speaker 4: Like I was thinking for a while at these plane crashes,
Speaker 4: like there's even something like that's up like this, man, Yeah,
Speaker 4: plane crashes. RFK have plane clashes to those guys who
Speaker 4: are for La Bamba. I mean there's all these people.
Speaker 4: It's like, why are we using planes? Alia shoul knocking
Speaker 4: people off?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I did a plane crash episode if
Speaker 7: you guys want me to talk about it sometimes. But
Speaker 7: Alia is a crazy one.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I might actually be interested on that. That
Speaker 4: was something you Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm hijacking the
Speaker 4: show now, but real quick, I think it inspired me
Speaker 4: to do this. I started. I did a couple of
Speaker 4: shows where I covered the seventeenth of every month and
Speaker 4: weird stuff that happened on that, And there was one
Speaker 4: there was a few times where plane crashes were huge,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, OK, what is up with plane crashes
Speaker 4: on the date of the seventeenth.
Speaker 7: Cause it's an eight. That's the dog star. Yeah serious,
Speaker 7: the infinity symbol.
Speaker 2: Seriously, all right, I appreciate the Operation GCD take over again.
Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna have this conversation, not on Occult Rejects
Speaker 6: when when we're all with you know, when Julian Irony
Speaker 6: Cult Rejects, we we spawned this whole show off of
Speaker 6: last week's The Cult Elvis Show, which I can I
Speaker 6: highly recommend folks check out.
Speaker 4: Yes next week, all right, next week, yes, all right,
Speaker 4: I guess we'll wrap it up here and yo, the
Speaker 4: chat was off the hook. Thank you everybody in the chat.
Speaker 4: That's what's up. I tried to pay attention to throw
Speaker 4: up a lot of your comments. Uh so, thank you
Speaker 4: all again, and thank you Tyler. That's what's up. You're
Speaker 4: the best. And that's the end of another Cult Rejects
Speaker 4: until the next one. Dy do well.
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