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<v Speaker 1>Oh better that.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger Warner.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast may include explicit content that will take you

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<v Speaker 3>out of your comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener's discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 4>Say question came.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday, don't matter if it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>While the sun is bright.

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<v Speaker 3>In the darkness night, no one knows.

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<v Speaker 2>She comes and goes.

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<v Speaker 5>When you changed with the.

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<v Speaker 3>Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Still are we live?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I got, I got no, oh, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Stream is live. It just hit on my end. It

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<v Speaker 2>was about thirteen second delay. How do you folks?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>Your host double j not the vice president host of

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<v Speaker 6>Operation g c D with an Operation GCD invasion of

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<v Speaker 6>the Occult Rejects. Here with a fellow occult reject Julia

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<v Speaker 6>from the Cosmic Peach podcast, and of course Neck the

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<v Speaker 6>host of The Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hear you. No, there you go, going on.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you very much, thanks for having me. Guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Well this this conversation kind of grew over conversation we

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<v Speaker 6>had last week right on the Ocult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's quite dropped yet.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, yeah, it's like a preview. Actually, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it will drop next Wednesday or something like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I was, you know, let's say, let's go, let's go

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<v Speaker 6>ahead and tease that episode, because that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 6>good conversation for folks to check out as well. And

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<v Speaker 6>if folks of the interwebs are not familiar with Tuesday, Well,

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<v Speaker 6>this this name came up in a conversation last week

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<v Speaker 6>about a cult Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 6>Well when when Julia brought it up in the conversation

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<v Speaker 6>and asked me if by new Tuesday, Well, I simply replied,

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<v Speaker 6>one of my favorite people in the entire universe, because

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<v Speaker 6>I love because I'm pro Tuesday. It was because she's

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<v Speaker 6>connected to everything I love.

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<v Speaker 7>How you say, not because I'm pro.

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<v Speaker 6>Tuesday, I'm not for Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no me either.

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<v Speaker 3>Me either.

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<v Speaker 7>But she's somebody that I've actually I've mentioned several times

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<v Speaker 7>in previous episodes. I actually the first time I talked

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<v Speaker 7>about her on my show was in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>So is definitely, you know, do for a refresher, just

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<v Speaker 7>for even people who listen to my show, because you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I just assume that every everyone knows about her, because

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<v Speaker 7>I did do an episode on her a couple of

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<v Speaker 7>years ago, but it's been so long, you know, you'd

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<v Speaker 7>have to dig through, you know, hundreds of episodes to

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<v Speaker 7>get to that one. So I'm kind of excited to

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<v Speaker 7>revitalize it today and make it more well known for

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<v Speaker 7>people who haven't heard of her. So we're throwing down

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<v Speaker 7>on Tuesday on a Monday. So this is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be it Monday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Right, And Nick, you had no idea Tuesday will

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<v Speaker 6>was when this came up during that show, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I think Tuesday's done a great job of

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<v Speaker 6>playing you know, laying beneath.

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<v Speaker 7>Flamelow, under the radar of the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the only time I had ever really heard

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<v Speaker 4>about her?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, like one time Lisa for some reason, and

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<v Speaker 4>she can't remember why she was looking into somehow she

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<v Speaker 4>was she was related to Joe Rogan, she had heard somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, like weird, like you know, who knows

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<v Speaker 4>if it's true, But like that was the only time

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<v Speaker 4>I really ever heard of Tuesday. Well, that had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea who she really is. Though.

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<v Speaker 7>If that's true, I'm gonna ship my whole entire pants.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I can't, I can't believe I haven't done Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Rogan's family tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet that's it's shocking to me. As much Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 2>stuff as I've done.

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<v Speaker 7>It wouldn't surprise me. But you know, somebody that I've

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<v Speaker 7>worked with a few times, I think nick has two

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<v Speaker 7>is uh Sean McCann. Yes, And he knew so much

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<v Speaker 7>about Tuesday and he and I talked about her together,

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<v Speaker 7>and so I just want to give him a quick

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<v Speaker 7>shout out because he dropped some stuff into my life

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<v Speaker 7>about her that I didn't even know about that I

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<v Speaker 7>included in this presentation. So before I get started, I

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<v Speaker 7>just want to say shout out to him too, because

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<v Speaker 7>he's looked into her and found some really crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>But well, if you've ever seen a picture of her.

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<v Speaker 6>But well, man interject real quick. Yeah, before we describe

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<v Speaker 6>who is Tuesday Wild? How did you just like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 6>Sean McCann has done podcasts on this too. Now, I

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<v Speaker 6>haven't heard anyone talk about Tuesday well since Adam Go rightly,

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<v Speaker 6>sirka two thousand and seven something.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So Sean McCann.

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<v Speaker 2>That's old conversation used to be with.

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<v Speaker 7>Her, right, I'm not sure when it dropped into his

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<v Speaker 7>you know, periphery for him to start looking into it.

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<v Speaker 7>But I found her looking into Laurel Canyon because she

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<v Speaker 7>is a big sixties counterculture person. And then I had

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<v Speaker 7>mentioned her in passing to Sean and he was like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh shit, you know, I know so much about her,

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<v Speaker 7>and then we did an episode on her together. But

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure if you've ever seen a picture of her, nick,

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<v Speaker 7>but she is like the proverbial Madonna, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield,

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<v Speaker 7>big blue eyes, blonde hair, she looks like a Barbie doll. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 7>she could all.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things, right, She could have been bigger than all

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<v Speaker 2>those stars, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, it seems like she fits that that archetype. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>There she goes with Jack Nicholson. You'll see her hanging around.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like she's everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, she's everywhere for those who know where she is,

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<v Speaker 7>but nowhere to people that are familiar with sixties counterculture.

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<v Speaker 7>When you look back on it, you're like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 7>I said, Jane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, whoever, whoever was big

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<v Speaker 7>during that time, She's sitting right here next to Jack Nicholson.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, who is this person? If you saw this picture,

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<v Speaker 7>you wouldn't even know who she was.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's everywhere fan girl, right right, right?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I first this.

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<v Speaker 6>Is when they did a movie together. I think this

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<v Speaker 6>was nineteen seventy two, that did a film together. If

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not mistaken, I don't. I don't remember which one

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<v Speaker 7>I remember which one it was. I think I have

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<v Speaker 7>it in my notes for later.

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<v Speaker 6>But she's been in Hollywood since she was a little girl, right,

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<v Speaker 6>she was about what's seven years old, I believe.

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<v Speaker 7>When she started the Yeah, yeah, she was really really young.

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<v Speaker 7>And I guess in order to understand why she's significant

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<v Speaker 7>in what role she plays in this weird society of

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<v Speaker 7>famous people, you kind of almost have to go back

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<v Speaker 7>in time and look at her family, Right, who are

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<v Speaker 7>the Weld's, What where did she come from? Why is

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<v Speaker 7>she special? You know? Xyz? And it turns out, actually

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<v Speaker 7>at the Weld family is really really old family. They

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<v Speaker 7>came over on the Mayflower type shit, you know, one

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<v Speaker 7>of the very first families. They came to America in

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<v Speaker 7>the sixteen hundreds from England, and the Weld family is

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<v Speaker 7>actually an extended family of the Boston Brahmin family. The

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<v Speaker 7>name Brahmin might sound familiar to people who are listening

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<v Speaker 7>to this. Brahmin is kind of like one of those

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<v Speaker 7>really old families that kind of run everything. They're like

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<v Speaker 7>the Boston elite, if you will, the Brahmin family. So

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<v Speaker 7>the Welds are an extension of the Boston Brahmins, and

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<v Speaker 7>the Welds are actually the ones who helped start Harvard

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<v Speaker 7>University as a gift. They were given by the royal family.

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<v Speaker 7>The Weld family was given rocks Bury, Massachusetts and like, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>Jamaica plane, it's all weld land and yeah, basically so

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<v Speaker 7>you got this weird Boston kind of with the Brahmans,

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<v Speaker 7>but also like most of Massachusetts has turned to like

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<v Speaker 7>weld land.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, and they started that all on a mound there

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<v Speaker 6>in Jamaica plane called Ni Hill.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, freaking mound builder weirdness.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, So she the line connections to the Society of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, she's related to the governor of Massachusetts, which was

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<v Speaker 7>William Weld. And if you go all the way back

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<v Speaker 7>in time, right the thirteen hundreds is the earliest recorded

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<v Speaker 7>members of the Weld family. They're all like sheriffs in London.

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<v Speaker 7>Some of them are knights uh shit like that.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they started some old school Celtic stuff though, right,

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<v Speaker 6>like the ancient king Satara, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think they were I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 7>was in the thirteen hundreds or when they came over

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<v Speaker 7>on the Mayflower, but they were Protestant. But after they

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<v Speaker 7>got over here they sort of kind of like integrated

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<v Speaker 7>their power into religiosity and a lot of them converted

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<v Speaker 7>to Catholicism and became like Jesuit priests. So there's so

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<v Speaker 7>many layers to this. And actually John B. Weld and

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<v Speaker 7>Alfred Weld, to be specific, they were Jesuit priests, and

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<v Speaker 7>Alfred was known to be a Jesuit priest, an astronomer,

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<v Speaker 7>and the administrator for the Society of Jesus. So it's

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<v Speaker 7>like I said, it's like if you go even all

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<v Speaker 7>the way back.

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<v Speaker 6>There an administrator there that wasn't even just a member.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, I'm not just a member, I'm the president.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's like sheriffs, knights, Jesuit priests, administrators for the

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<v Speaker 7>Society of Jesus. You got astronomers, Boston elite, the Brahmin family.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, the Welds are nuts you got governors. They

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<v Speaker 7>own most of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, from they were the infamous incident between Bill Weld

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<v Speaker 6>and Whitey Bulger's brother, the governor pointed out, so that

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<v Speaker 6>is a cousin of hers. He also descends from Eliza Weld.

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<v Speaker 6>So Eliza Weld was a colonel in the Revolution. They're

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<v Speaker 6>on the the Weld Mound there in Jamaica Plains. In

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<v Speaker 6>fact that the weld manor there on Weld Hill served

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<v Speaker 6>as an operations headquarters for the Massachusetts contenent of the Revolution.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're very very integral, very integral. That was basically

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<v Speaker 6>you know, headquarters in operations center.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, they're like founding fathers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Like they're damn near like yeah, close to the leveled

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<v Speaker 6>down wow, Because as far as mass CH's is concerned,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they're they were a major again as you

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<v Speaker 6>pointed out that they were the religious heads with the

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<v Speaker 6>starting Harvard because that started as a religious school. And

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<v Speaker 6>then they were the military heads because they weren't generals.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, they're the ones that ran their house

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<v Speaker 6>was run you know, they run everything out of their house,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and whatever that mound was they operated. The

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<v Speaker 6>rest of their friends all thought it was important for

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<v Speaker 6>some reason.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, of course it goes all the way back to

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<v Speaker 7>ancient history, doesn't it, with the mound builders and all

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<v Speaker 7>of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean even within that family, probably even you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe even a different track, because I believe those ancient

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>The Rockefellers another society family out of society, Cincinnati family

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<v Speaker 6>out of New York, the New York chap Or. They owned,

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<v Speaker 2>Where the secret meetings were held for the rituals.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I thought, That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just one of the magic that we call

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<v Speaker 2>That's Mormon stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>The hill, the hill Tara is the is the ancient

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<v Speaker 6>old ancient kings of ancient Celtic kings used to you know,

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<v Speaker 7>That's so nuts to me, because it's like they have

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<v Speaker 7>little pockets everywhere. It's not just in America obviously, because

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<v Speaker 7>there's members of the family like Sir Frank Weld, he

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<v Speaker 7>Governor of Western Australia. And then like Thomas Weld, he

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<v Speaker 7>was one of the ones who helped create Harvard and

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<v Speaker 6>Typical, they're a very Anglo focused family. They seem to

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<v Speaker 6>be still to this day, and they're having this Anglo

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<v Speaker 6>American influence, you know, this this British influence on America.

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<v Speaker 6>And speaking of that, speaking of that, back to Bill

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<v Speaker 6>Weld right right, took us off on the standard of there, Julia.

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<v Speaker 6>So Bill Weld was the governor, as you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 6>Tuesday's cousin and Whitey Boulger's brother was the President of

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<v Speaker 6>the State Senate, Bill Bill Boulger. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 6>if I'm sure either of you were aware of that,

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<v Speaker 6>that the infamous gangster Whitey Bulger, while he's being a gangster,

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<v Speaker 6>his brother's the president of the State Senate in the

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<v Speaker 6>same city of Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 7>Figure, right, you have to somebody on both sides exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>And well, they're running the same operations, just from different roubles.

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<v Speaker 6>So Bill Weld and Bill Boulger getting an infamous dispute.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe too much of a New England to even know

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<v Speaker 6>the floor of the State House and they're in Boston,

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<v Speaker 6>and Boulger's roasting Weld saying like, you know, oh my

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<v Speaker 6>and Wells and Well, you know, watches them, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in his little temper tantrum in front of the entire

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<v Speaker 6>again the joint session, and he's the governor there at

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<v Speaker 6>the state House, you know, Bill Bolger's house, he's running

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<v Speaker 6>Well just replies with, yeah, we sent over our help

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<v Speaker 6>here first. So that's that's the Weld family. That's the

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<v Speaker 6>Weld family. M hm.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Well, and they're also responsible for like setting up

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<v Speaker 7>major trade routes and stuff. And like so William Gordon

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<v Speaker 7>Weld founded some kind of fleet of trading vessels which

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<v Speaker 7>did opium trade to China. That I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 7>the Weld fan. This is what they're known for. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>Fletcher Weld, he expanded like this little empire, right, and

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<v Speaker 7>he introduced an even bigger fleet of ships and they

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<v Speaker 7>were called the black Horse flag Fleet and they were

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<v Speaker 7>opium traders and they were coming straight out of like

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<v Speaker 7>Massachusetts doing opium trade. I mean, this family, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 7>like they are the elites. They're the Brahmins, they're the

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<v Speaker 7>elite class. They're doing opium trade. They're involved in government,

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<v Speaker 7>they're involved in religion. They're in New Zealand, they're in Australia,

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<v Speaker 7>they're everywhere literally from going all the way back to

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<v Speaker 7>King George the Third, and he like knighted some of them.

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<v Speaker 7>So this is right, right, kind of like a like

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<v Speaker 7>a roths child for America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because everybody goes to like, what's that I said?

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<v Speaker 7>I think everybody fixates on like Rockefeller and like names

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<v Speaker 7>like that, but the Weld family is should be mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>when those things come up.

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<v Speaker 6>For sure, and my and my and my perspective, they're

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<v Speaker 6>one of the same. They're both the society Cincinnati families.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, in regard to the Welds, they seem

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<v Speaker 6>more overtly involved in witchcraft throughout their history.

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<v Speaker 7>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying the other ones are, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>saying they seem to brag about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even talking about this time.

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<v Speaker 6>Tuesday Weld we're a witch's hat to an interview to

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<v Speaker 6>the factory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a witch in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 7>You know where she did that interview. It was the

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<v Speaker 7>Chateau Marmont in California, where like I'm pretty sure that's

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<v Speaker 7>where John Belu she died and like Anton Levey used

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<v Speaker 7>to hang out, and it's supposedly haunted by all the

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<v Speaker 7>ghosts of all the dead celebrities that have passed through

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<v Speaker 7>that she did the interview there, and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 7>she's She's made fun in the public eye of like

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a witch and I have a high pedigree from

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<v Speaker 7>this this elite family. What you gonna do about it,

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<v Speaker 7>Like she's said stuff like that. I mean pretty much.

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<v Speaker 6>She's got a lot of connections to the Hotel Marmont there,

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<v Speaker 6>so well, Jack's Jack's one of his best friends in life.

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<v Speaker 6>Mister Bob Cocaine Evans his producer buddy for the film Godfather.

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<v Speaker 6>Al Ruddy is Al Ruddy's wife owned that's Chateau Marmont

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<v Speaker 6>Hotel mm HM back in the sixties and early seventies.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just so crazy because it's like I said, she's

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<v Speaker 7>she's like the Babylon Girl, but she's not, because she's

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<v Speaker 7>everywhere and nowhere and like a ghost. She's like a

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<v Speaker 7>ghost in Hollywood, like she pops up everywhere. Everyone knows her,

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<v Speaker 7>but she is She's.

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<v Speaker 6>Not a household name like Maryland, right, She's not a

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<v Speaker 6>house or even Jane Mansfield exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, So getting kind of more into her now that

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<v Speaker 7>we know about like her family and shit. She was

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<v Speaker 7>born on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty three. And it's

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<v Speaker 7>based on the research I've done, Like in these elite cults,

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<v Speaker 7>people like Tuesday are chosen at a very early age

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<v Speaker 7>to carry out whatever it is that they have for

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<v Speaker 7>them and I do think that she was chosen relatively.

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<v Speaker 7>I think seven, as you said earlier, is probably when

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<v Speaker 7>they started noticing because they said that she had abundant

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<v Speaker 7>psychic and clairvoyant abilities from a very young age. And

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<v Speaker 7>this was something that they covet obviously, especially when you

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<v Speaker 7>come from a family, an elite family, and you're got

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<v Speaker 7>clairvoyant psychic abilities. So she's like a nineteen sixties Laurel

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<v Speaker 7>Canyon era gal, you know. And she was in the movies,

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<v Speaker 7>but she wasn't like Maryland status famous, which I'll explain

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<v Speaker 7>why later on. But she's like your typical archetype of

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<v Speaker 7>the Babylon like blonde hair, blue eyed sex kitten. This

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<v Speaker 7>is what the perfect woman should look like kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 7>oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that was her role though, is what

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<v Speaker 6>all you're describing. This is all very well organized because

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<v Speaker 6>this is one of her first major acting She was

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<v Speaker 6>in other things starting very young. I think her first

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<v Speaker 6>acting role was Ege seven. I think she was sixteen

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<v Speaker 6>here in this TV show called The You familiar with

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<v Speaker 6>this one? Julia The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.

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<v Speaker 7>I came across that one. Yeah, I've never watched it.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously, but h strangely enough, I watched as long before

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<v Speaker 6>I really understor knew who Tuesday World.

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<v Speaker 7>Was really was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a popular show in my household growing up.

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<v Speaker 7>Well I actually, so you know, like when somebody's getting started,

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<v Speaker 7>they'll be in like some shit stuff before they like

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<v Speaker 7>really hit the big time and like get like a

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<v Speaker 7>right all right, not Tuesday So.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, And this show shows it right here.

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<v Speaker 6>So the synopsis of the show is the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the innocence of the nineteen fifties before the oncoming nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>sixties revolution.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, she played a huge part of in real life role.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes, that's that's what this show that was, the

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<v Speaker 6>show like that that was kind of the start of

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<v Speaker 6>her revolution of the sixties, right where she's kind of

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<v Speaker 6>this puppet master to six. It starts in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 6>nine when she's sixteen, what's sixteen years old? And this

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<v Speaker 6>TV show that the TV shows about the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the fifties and the you know, this new era of

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<v Speaker 6>get out with the beat next and in with these

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the kind of this new hippie kind of scene.

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<v Speaker 7>Almost she played a huge role in the inspiration behind

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<v Speaker 7>the lot of music and culture too, but like I have.

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<v Speaker 7>So let's say she she's developing these psychic abilities around

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<v Speaker 7>like age seven, and then she began a modeling career

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<v Speaker 7>at age twelve, and she landed her film debut at

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<v Speaker 7>age twelve in a freaking Alfred Hitchcock movie.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like she skipped all of the like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta try to get roles and stuff. It was

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<v Speaker 7>like born psychic twelve years old, she's a model, and

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<v Speaker 7>she's in an Alfred Hitchcock movie and literally nobody knows

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<v Speaker 7>about her. It's like she didn't even have to try.

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<v Speaker 7>They just like threw her in and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>Alfred Hitchcock, here you go, bitch, Like how many people

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<v Speaker 7>would have died to be in an Alfred Hitchcock movie.

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<v Speaker 7>You know he was huge back then. And this is

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<v Speaker 7>actually do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just because of her family? Right? Her family's running Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh one. And a lesser known thing about her as

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<v Speaker 7>well is she was Stanley Kubrick's first pick for Lolita,

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<v Speaker 7>right wow, Right, you know, the infamous pedophile movie.

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<v Speaker 6>So when I say her family, I mean like the

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<v Speaker 6>cold family, right, like the family of which the Welds

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<v Speaker 6>are obviously a big part of and included in, but they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the only family in there, right.

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<v Speaker 7>I love this picture of her in Elvis because you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I brought it up before. I was like, oh, did

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<v Speaker 7>Elvis know Tuesday Weld or do you know that Elvis

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<v Speaker 7>knew Tuesday Weld? And it's like, oh no, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>even know who that is. Well, he sure got a

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<v Speaker 7>tender love and care for her, right there. I have

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<v Speaker 7>picture where he was sneaking a little smooch from Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 7>Who is that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's mister Steve McQueen. He's part of the family.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh one hundred. He's got a nice little hug for

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<v Speaker 7>her too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's as a cousin of mine.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm McQueen, he really yeah, yeah, My second great grandmother

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<v Speaker 6>is a McQueen, so I think he's somewhere in my

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<v Speaker 6>fifth cousin. Anyway, this is nineteen sixty nine, right, because

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<v Speaker 6>when this photo was taken, and so, yeah, he steals

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<v Speaker 6>Bob Evans old cocaine Bob Evans wife the next year

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<v Speaker 6>Steven Queen does when I say steal, I think all

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<v Speaker 6>these people are involved in the sex colt right, So like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you know he runs he runs off with cocaine. Bob's wife.

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<v Speaker 6>She's married to George propart at this time. I believe

424
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<v Speaker 6>that's when they're married. Is around that same time.

425
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<v Speaker 7>Well and during the time. Oh, I don't know how

426
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<v Speaker 7>old she was.

427
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:46.440
<v Speaker 2>No, No, the the A Team, he was the he

428
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>was the star of the television show Now Team No.

429
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<v Speaker 7>I thought you said she.

430
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, Yeah, Colonival Hannibal Smith. I'm too big

431
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 6>of an eighteen fan, I guess. But but anyone in

432
00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:59.880
<v Speaker 6>the eighties, you know, remembers this dude from from that,

433
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:01.759
<v Speaker 6>They don't remember from Breakfast, the Tiffany's, you know what

434
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 6>I mean.

435
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:08.079
<v Speaker 7>No, well, it seems like to me everybody had a

436
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 7>bit of a crush on her. I think Elvis was

437
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.920
<v Speaker 7>still married to Priscilla when he was in a romantic

438
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 7>relationship with Tuesday. So that was all kind of like

439
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:20.599
<v Speaker 7>hush hudh and like swept under the rug because those

440
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 7>two were in a movie together, which I will get

441
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 7>to in a minute. But JJ, have you heard of

442
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:29.640
<v Speaker 7>a movie she was in called Lord Love a Duck.

443
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna bring that movie up to sure, Yeah,

444
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 6>that's exactly like that. Dobie Gillis shows it's spawning this

445
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:39.559
<v Speaker 6>revolution that she's in charge of.

446
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And and we'll kind of bragging about it more or less.

447
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 7>But right, so, like it's basically like this demon that

448
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 7>grants you wishes, right, and she just wants fame and

449
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 7>she wants whatever. But anyways, but.

450
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.440
<v Speaker 2>She's like a Colt hypriesest in that, right Barbara Ann, Right?

451
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she she plays Barbara and nicknamed Barbie.

452
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah.

453
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 6>But they see allegedly sanging on the Beach Boys song

454
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 6>Barbara Ann as a tribute to this movie that came

455
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.200
<v Speaker 6>out at the same time as this movie.

456
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 7>That's what I was gonna say.

457
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>So she's talking about the process.

458
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 7>The Beach Boys were were infatuated with her, and that's

459
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 7>where Barbara Ann came from, was this Lord Love a

460
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 7>Duck because they were they were infatuated with Tuesday. And

461
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 7>it's to me, it's signaling again like she's the Barbie, right.

462
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 7>And I kind of talked to Nick before about like

463
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.119
<v Speaker 7>where the Barbie origins came from. And they're pretty.

464
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Sister, you know.

465
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<v Speaker 6>You're saying, like the Barbie doll is like some sort

466
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 6>of like idol of some regard.

467
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 7>Is right. The very first, the very first Barbie doll

468
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:50.200
<v Speaker 7>that ever came out was was a sex toyikes, Yes.

469
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 4>It was definitely. It was definitely sold sexually.

470
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:57.440
<v Speaker 7>Yes, And it had nipples and it had a vagina,

471
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 7>and all they did literally to marketed to children was

472
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 7>removed the nipples in the vagina. It was the same dress,

473
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 7>it was the same face, it was the same hair,

474
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 7>it was everything was the same. And when the guy

475
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 7>took this sex doll just removed the anatomy parts. He

476
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 7>took it to like a kid's convention thing to sell it,

477
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 7>and parents were like, what are you doing with it?

478
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 7>Like they were creeped out by it. But now it's

479
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 7>like that's the staple. You know, it's like a Barbie

480
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 7>doll that's sexualizing for children basically for sure, because before

481
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 7>the Barbie, little girls would play with babies and like

482
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:38.920
<v Speaker 7>they were learning how to become a mother you know who? Right, Yeah,

483
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 7>And then they introduced the kin doll, and it's like

484
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 7>use your imagination.

485
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they got a new evolution. I mean, I like

486
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 6>how you're describing this because that's how I look at

487
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:51.039
<v Speaker 6>the new evolution of this stuff. The American something American

488
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 6>dolls or American girls or something.

489
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, American girl dolls.

490
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 6>It's that's that's Barbie, even to the next level of

491
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 6>evolution of this kind of psyoptom floor describing.

492
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, but so I think it's interesting that she's

493
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 7>like Barbara Ann in this movie. Yeah, and the Beach

494
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 7>Boys write this song. She's Barbie. She's blonde hair, she's

495
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 7>blue eyes, she's got like the perfect body, literally everything

496
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 7>she is the epitome.

497
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Of just supposedly stings on that too.

498
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 6>Shows she's allegedly she's a backup singer in the song

499
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 6>Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys. Again, as you pointed out,

500
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 6>their obsession with her makes sense. Their their music producers,

501
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 6>mister Phil Spector, the process guy, you know, the wall

502
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 6>sound guy, you know, the wrecking crew guy. Oh there,

503
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.960
<v Speaker 6>and then you know, so the beach wasn't surrounded by that.

504
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 6>You know, they got you got what's his name, Brian Wilson,

505
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, is the financier of Charles Manson and family.

506
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 6>Why I would argue, he's just helping finance the process

507
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 6>at that rate, you know what I mean?

508
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 7>And you know Dennis Wilson, He's got to be Dennis Wilson.

509
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>My apologies, Oh, I was.

510
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 7>Gonna say, he's the one that had a big heart

511
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 7>on for Manson, had him living in his house ship.

512
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Right, and they're all friends with I always missed this

513
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 6>dude's name up. He's a music producer. He wrote the

514
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 6>song Cocomo with the Wilson Boys, you know, for the

515
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Scientology Tom Cruise classic film in the eighties, Cocktails, the

516
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 6>song written for that.

517
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>He's he was. He was Charlie's a cell mate at

518
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Terminal Island.

519
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:25.440
<v Speaker 7>Phil, I don't know, that's a very.

520
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Music producer friend of the Beach Boys.

521
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 6>Obviously did did produce some Beach Boys stuff along with

522
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 6>writing with the Beach Boys and Cocomo.

523
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

524
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 6>Might I might have got Terry Melcher mashed up with

525
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 6>Phil Coffin, but they're both in the same mix with

526
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 6>the Beach Boys, right, these people around Manson the guy.

527
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was gonna say. Phil Kaufman is definitely mentioned

528
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 7>in uh Dave McGowan's work.

529
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I first learned about him.

530
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I know about him at least,

531
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 7>And he.

532
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>Was everywhere in the music scene. But yeah, he served.

533
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 6>He was there in Terminal Island there with Chuck.

534
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 7>That's so wild, dude, you know something else about her.

535
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 7>I think, if I'm not mistaken, she was like fifteen

536
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 7>in Lord Love a Ducky, and.

537
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 6>She sounds about right so old when she was born

538
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 6>in what forty three? Uh huh, yeah, I think she

539
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 6>was probably like twenty then maybe, oh she was twenty three, twenty.

540
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Probably twenty two.

541
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 7>So this must be a quote from a different movie,

542
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 7>because I say, I have in my notes one of

543
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 7>the male actors she worked with on one of these movies.

544
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.279
<v Speaker 7>I guess it wasn't this one. A quote from him

545
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 7>was Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. Spec he

546
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 7>said that. So it was like, I don't know that

547
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 7>they all had like an infatuation with her even when

548
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 7>she was young young, like she started when she was twelve,

549
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 7>got the Alfred Hitchcock movie. Then she's with Elvis, she's

550
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 7>with Jack Nicholson, she's obviously fifteen, still doing stuff, and

551
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 7>they're like, oh, yeah, Tuesday she's fifteen going on twenty seven. Okay,

552
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 7>who said that?

553
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a source? Flom?

554
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 7>I just said, danny k always it, did you find it?

555
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 6>That's when I searched the quote. That's what it came

556
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 6>up with. Danny k but I don't know this actor though.

557
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 6>Do you know him?

558
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 7>No? The article that I pulled it from, said a

559
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 7>co a co male actor she worked with, referred to

560
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 7>her as quote, Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven.

561
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 6>It's this dude, Danny. I don't know this guy's work.

562
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 6>But he was much older dude than Tuesday. But he's

563
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 6>buried in Westchester, kuny of New York there, Nick Hell.

564
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Definitely look Westchester specifically, right.

565
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 7>So is he like a big wig guy or I

566
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 7>don't know?

567
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 6>Says he says he was an actor, comedian, singer, and dancer.

568
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 7>She also knew Bing Crosby too.

569
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe they were all in White Christmas together.

570
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, maybe I didn't know her to be in White Christmas?

571
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Is she in that?

572
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 7>No?

573
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying I know that's a Bing Crosby Danny

574
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 6>K and I recognized.

575
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing I recognized Danny K from.

576
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, it was with Bing Crosbie. I mean she

577
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 7>knows everybody, dude, literally.

578
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>She does, doesn't she because this is a way older

579
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 2>actor than she is.

580
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and apparently he was fantasizing about her being twenty seven.

581
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, she was sixteen and that she was sixteen.

582
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 6>They did a film called Five Pennies Together in nineteen

583
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 6>fifty nine, so she was five right around the same

584
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 6>time she did that DeBie Guilli stuff she was.

585
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 7>Later on after this stuff, she was in something called

586
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 7>seventy seven Sunset Strip, which also stood out. Yeah. I

587
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 7>think it was a show called seventy seven Sunset Strip

588
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 7>and it was another like weird Laurel Canyony weirdness, But

589
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 7>you know seventy seven, you're right, seventy seven like the

590
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 7>OZ the Magician's number whatever, and maybe seventy seven.

591
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well sevens and stuff. Yeah, I do you find

592
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 4>that interesting?

593
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna say, I don't. I don't know what

594
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 6>the meetings are. It seems creepy that they would name

595
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 6>it that, right whatever. The seven seven's got to mean something, right.

596
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 7>And it's sunset strip, right, like where all the Laurel

597
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 7>Canyons shit's going down and it's.

598
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 6>Not yet there, right, not yet, because this is from

599
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 6>fifty eight to sixty four pop off until sixty four, right.

600
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 7>Was it? I thought it was a little bit earlier

601
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 7>than that I could know.

602
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 6>I believe I believe the Birds first album was maybe

603
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 6>late sixty three with all that Dylan music. This is

604
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 6>Vito Policas is the is the Proto Manson guy in

605
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 6>Laurel Kenyon. I know, I think that's around sixty three

606
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 6>or sixty four.

607
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so was Sunset Strip this seventy seven Sunset Strip?

608
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 7>Was that Veto's time?

609
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>He would have been hanging out in that at the

610
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>time yet because.

611
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 7>He was like the granddaddy of the whole movement, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

612
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 7>So this is a series and her episode was called

613
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 7>Secret Island or something like that.

614
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but.

615
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 6>She so after being really creepy show, Julia, I've never

616
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 6>even paid attention to this.

617
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 2>I have an ex active and former.

618
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 6>WW two WW two World War two Office of Strategic

619
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 6>Service is a secret agent, right, That's that's the main

620
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 6>character is an OSS guy.

621
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 7>This is where I mentioned this stuff because after she's

622
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 7>in this show, she's in a movie with Dick Clark

623
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 7>that's called Sex Kittens Go to College.

624
00:34:59.320 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm familiar with.

625
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 7>She went from seventy seven Sunset Strip to Sex Kittens

626
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 7>Go to College.

627
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 8>It's like they pointed out there for you, you know,

628
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 8>quite a career trajectory, right.

629
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 7>Sex Kittens go to College?

630
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.199
<v Speaker 6>Like what, oh, I think we skipped over this when

631
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 6>chronologically she was in uh oh yeah, Rock with a

632
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 6>convicted child child sex offender Chuck Berry.

633
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 7>Damn oh yes, Chuck Berry.

634
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure if he was convicted yet. He was.

635
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 6>He was getting popped right around this time though, for

636
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 6>the violations of the Main Act.

637
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 7>Well, was it before or after this Wild in the

638
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 7>Country with Elvis came out and that's when they developed

639
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 7>their little romance.

640
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

641
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 6>Because I'm trying to remember when Chuckburry because the music

642
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 6>the music record studio company folks literally brokeer Chuck Berry's

643
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 6>release from prison, like they want the Feds want to

644
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 6>keep them in there for like a long time. They're like, look,

645
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 6>this's gonna make us a lot of money.

646
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:04.039
<v Speaker 2>You know.

647
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 6>We got to get him out of there, you know.

648
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 6>So he didn't give what he did about soon and

649
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 6>a half. I think he was out by nineteen sixty,

650
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 6>but it was right around this time he was with Tuesday.

651
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 6>Well that is when he got popped. When he was

652
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.719
<v Speaker 6>when he was committing violations of the Man Act. So

653
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 6>child sex trafficking wasn't really technically illegal in many states

654
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 6>where there was a federal law at the time called

655
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 6>the Man Act, which was taking an underage, you know,

656
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 6>minor across state lines for the purposes of sexual activity.

657
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's what Chuck Barry was doing.

658
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 7>That's what doing that.

659
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 2>He was doing a lot of it.

660
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 6>He later would write a number one single called My

661
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 6>Dingling and Tour American having people sing along with a

662
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 6>convicted child sex offender. You know, it's kind of dark. Yeah,

663
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 6>that's Tuesday's frinds, that's Tuesday's friends.

664
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 7>Well, I was gonna say too. In that Elvis movie

665
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 7>she was the Wild in the Country. I don't know

666
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 7>if it was before or after this, she played an

667
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 7>incest victim. Oh man with Elvis. Yeah, with Elvis.

668
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was sixty one. I thought, I think that

669
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>was sixty one. So yeah. The Sex Kittens Go to

670
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 2>College was nineteen sixty with Dick Clark. Yeah, Like what

671
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 2>goes on? Right?

672
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 6>Like you got Brookshields as an eleven year old what

673
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 6>in like nineteen seventy eight, you know, naked in a

674
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 6>film as a child prostitute. You got other you know,

675
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 6>obviously tuesdays of age here, right, Well, she's barely of age.

676
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 6>She's probably seventeen actually, in sixteen when she filmed this, right.

677
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 7>When I was young.

678
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeahsty three, Yeah, a little questionable, right, having having a

679
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 6>child in a film called Sex Kittens.

680
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Got to call.

681
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 7>Collage and it's like, look at the cover. It's it's

682
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 7>your archetypes, right. You got Tuesdays, the blonde with blue eyes,

683
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 7>and you got a redhead with a green shirt on,

684
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 7>and then you have the brunette with like this red

685
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 7>polka dot thing. It's it's the Neapolitan sex kitten for you,

686
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 7>I know.

687
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's what your Marilyn Monroe on top?

688
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh, isn't that Tuesday on top?

689
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was Tuesday?

690
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 7>Which one?

691
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 2>The redheaded middle one? The middle one?

692
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, oh, I can barely see it because it's so small,

693
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 7>but I just.

694
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Assumed it's it's not Marilyn Monroe. But I mean, are

695
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 6>they trying to aim for Marilyn Monroe. Bit it's Mami von.

696
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.960
<v Speaker 7>Dorian Ooh, another blonde hair, blue eyed.

697
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

698
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh, she's one of the three m's, Okay, along with

699
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.440
<v Speaker 6>Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. Okay, I don't know this lady.

700
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't know her either.

701
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Mammy Mami, Yeah, Mamie van Dorton.

702
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure if you looked into her, she falls right

703
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 7>in the same category with all the other.

704
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 6>Archetypes, right, I mean you got Mansfield and and uh

705
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 6>Marilyn Monroe, who, like Tuesday Welder dedicated to the Satanic Bible, right.

706
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 7>Yes, but you know, Tuesday and Maryland were up for

707
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 7>the same parts very often, and they would go with

708
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:04.400
<v Speaker 7>Marylyn as opposed to Tuesday. And it's like, why is

709
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.960
<v Speaker 7>that because Marylyn is lacking the pedigree that Tuesday has

710
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 7>And why did Tuesday never blow up and become like

711
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 7>a megastar the way that these women did? And this

712
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 7>is how I would explain it. And JJ, you can

713
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 7>agree or disagree, but it's like they use women like

714
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 7>Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, and it's like they get

715
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 7>them and they use them up and they burn them

716
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 7>out and then they throw them away. They like die

717
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:41.159
<v Speaker 7>horribly at young ages, and it's like they're all they're

718
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 7>literally burnt out by the end of their career in

719
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.599
<v Speaker 7>their early you know, twenties and thirties, whereas Tuesday is

720
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 7>almost like she's been protected and she lives still to

721
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 7>this day a ridiculously bizarre, charmed life.

722
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 6>And is that I mean, I agree with you there,

723
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.400
<v Speaker 6>Julia on how they how they burn them Ounta and

724
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.079
<v Speaker 6>is it's a very intentional thing.

725
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I think as well.

726
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 6>But she but to be honest with me, here's her life

727
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 6>that all that charmed. She married Dudley Moore, She had

728
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 6>a child with Dudley Moore, that little strange, little hobbin

729
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 6>looking fellow. You know what I'm talking about, Martha.

730
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, when I watch.

731
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Charm can your life be?

732
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but I watched He's gotta be a wizard, right,

733
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:27.599
<v Speaker 6>I've always written it off like that, dude's gotta be

734
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 6>a wizard, right, I.

735
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:29.039
<v Speaker 4>Mean, what's that?

736
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 6>I guess, right, That's what I'm saying, dude, Like, how

737
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 6>what's going on there?

738
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 7>I mean, she when she's she's been interviewed and I've

739
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 7>watched them, and she kind of like it was like,

740
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 7>all right, I'm just going to be a stay at

741
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 7>home mom and just drink wine all day and you know,

742
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 7>sit around and basically she's just living the life of luxury.

743
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 7>I don't know for her husband's a weirdo or not,

744
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 7>but she she got a lot better outcome than Jane

745
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 7>Mansfield and Maryland. And I'll tell you that much.

746
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 2>But I guess that's that's a good comparison.

747
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 6>Although though I think Homegirl won the won the competition

748
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.239
<v Speaker 6>there miss uh what was her name, Donna von Dene

749
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 6>or whatever? What was this lady's name again? Maybe maybe yeah,

750
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 6>Maymie von Dene or something.

751
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, something like that. I feel like, oh, well, maybe

752
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 7>she's maybe she's another Tuesday.

753
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

754
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 7>But it's like these other actresses are like expendable. They're

755
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.079
<v Speaker 7>like a dime a dozen. You can create many Marilyn

756
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 7>Monroe's and they've done it throughout time with like Madonna

757
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.880
<v Speaker 7>and Britney Spears and Kesha, and it's like Lady Gaga,

758
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 7>you can create as many as you want of this

759
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 7>archetype of the blonde, blue eyed, you know, priestess of

760
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 7>like the upper echelon of women, because they've done it

761
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 7>multiple times, like I said, throughout time. But why is

762
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 7>Tuesday protected? Like why is she set apart? And I

763
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.920
<v Speaker 7>think these other women are like they want to be

764
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 7>a part of the club.

765
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, they don't have the genetics right.

766
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 7>And it's like the club that they're trying to be

767
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.239
<v Speaker 7>a part of is Tuesdays Club.

768
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Like it's like when you joined the mafia or whatever.

769
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 6>You're going to get in so hard unless you're part

770
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 6>of the actual family, right, So, like you know, so

771
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 6>I feel I kind of view these side characters right,

772
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 6>like they're not quite part of the family, but yeah

773
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 6>they're they're like they're a lower echelon of the system.

774
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 7>Yes, they're initiates into something that Tuesday's family built exactly.

775
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 7>That's why she doesn't get burnt out and suicided or

776
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 7>drug overdosed or car accident or like used up and

777
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 7>burnt out. She's like, I'll get into it in a second,

778
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 7>but it's like.

779
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 6>She's this demand little man though, right, we still see

780
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 6>it inconclusive.

781
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 7>Let me see him. I just want to see.

782
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Nick's gotta put Nick put a picture on this little villa.

783
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 7>Oh god, he's hideous, right.

784
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.079
<v Speaker 4>No, if you're watch him in like author, he'd be like,

785
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 4>which I'm sure is really his personality, but you would

786
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 4>be like, what the fuck?

787
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 7>He must he must be a bloodliner, right, got a

788
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 7>lot of money. He has to be. He has to be,

789
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 7>because it's like, you don't get that high a pedigree

790
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 7>of Tuesday Weld unless you're a bloodliner.

791
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 6>Because they want thought, always thought that, right, it's something weird, right.

792
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because it's not like somebody with Tuesday Weld whoesdated

793
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.239
<v Speaker 7>Elvis is gonna end up marrying this guy in pro

794
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 7>Creating unless he's a bloodliner. She probably has a boyfriend

795
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:45.199
<v Speaker 7>who's side.

796
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.400
<v Speaker 6>She was married to George for part. Have you seen

797
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.280
<v Speaker 6>the A team Carnibal Hannibal Smith. I mean, she went

798
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 6>from Hannibal Smith to this guy.

799
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 7>That's why, That's why it's got to be on purpose,

800
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 7>because whatever genetics they have together is going to make

801
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.760
<v Speaker 7>the next you know, Tuesday.

802
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 4>That makes as much sense as Jackson winning.

803
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 7>But you know, think of the obsession that she had

804
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 7>around her for her to end up with this guy,

805
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 7>right because the Beatles sang about her, The Stones sang

806
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 7>about her. That Beach Boys song is about her. She

807
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 7>literally could have picked anybody she wanted. Elvis had a

808
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 7>big crush on her, and she is said to be

809
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 7>part of the influence behind the changes of the Beatles

810
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 7>being like Bubblegummy to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

811
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 7>They say like Tuesday somehow played a role in that transition.

812
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 6>Sure, well, you'll see that in that Lord Love of

813
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 6>Duck movie right in the very beginning of it, Roddy McDowell,

814
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 6>the greaser guys getting beat up by the hippie guy

815
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.679
<v Speaker 6>right on the beach, and Tuesday, Well, it's kind of like,

816
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, cheering it on there. So she's she has

817
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 6>heard cheering on this moving a revolution of the sixties

818
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 6>where they're inserting this this hippie dumb and you know,

819
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 6>the Laurel Canyon scene. They're they're going to be, you know,

820
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 6>taking a little Cannes scene and inserting it across America, right,

821
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:12.960
<v Speaker 6>because that really started there. And you know when why

822
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 6>folks think that that the you know, sixties rock and

823
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 6>roll started at the Monterey Music Festivals because it's the

824
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 6>Laurel Canyon folks all went up to the Monorary Music

825
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 6>Festival as they're launching you know, they're launching it for

826
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.599
<v Speaker 6>marketing purposes, right.

827
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:31.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. And the song that the Stones wrote about her,

828
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.159
<v Speaker 7>Ruby Tuesday, that everybody knows and they probably thought that

829
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.840
<v Speaker 7>it was the day of the week or something, right,

830
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 7>Ruby Tuesday. But it actually inspired me to look into

831
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 7>a little bit further why they would have used that terminology.

832
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 7>Have you ever read Fritz Springmeyer, You guys either one heard.

833
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Of thirteen blood lines of the Illuminati.

834
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, something like that, I think. He he also has

835
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 7>another one that where he so in Fritz Springtire's work,

836
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:11.960
<v Speaker 7>he he talks about there's levels and there's like a

837
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 7>rank system in the dark Ocult. I don't know if

838
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 7>it's specifically for SRA victims, but definitely for like programmed multiples, right,

839
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 7>And there's like this rank system, and they're all different

840
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 7>types of gemstones. And so the diamond is like the

841
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 7>presidential model whore, and the emerald is like psychic stuff.

842
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 7>They're used for rituals. And then there's the ruby, which

843
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 7>is related to the bloodline, which is like upper echelon.

844
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 7>They're also used in rituals, but they're more like the

845
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 7>high priestess level. And then there are pearls, which are

846
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 7>like mind files. And so if you look at these

847
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 7>program multiples, most of the time they're wrapping their gymstone.

848
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 7>So like Marilyn is this diamond level. Diamonds are girl's

849
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 7>best friend, Diamonds are forever. She pushed diamonds in the sixties.

850
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 7>And then if you look there's ruby Usday with the

851
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 7>royal blood and if you really dive into John Beney

852
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 7>Ramsey and how much they push the emerald symbology with her,

853
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 7>and that's supposed to be like psychics that are used

854
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.000
<v Speaker 7>for rituals in this rank system. But there's this one

855
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:41.320
<v Speaker 7>picture that everybody always posts of John Benet where she's

856
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 7>got her pinky finger up and she's wearing an emerald ring.

857
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.440
<v Speaker 7>And it's it's like, why so specifically that picture of

858
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 7>John Benay like this wearing an emerald ring on her

859
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:58.480
<v Speaker 7>pinky And if you really look into these ranking systems,

860
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 7>they're all Jim's stones and these women will rep like

861
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 7>these the pearls, the rubies, diamonds, emeralds, whatever their ranking is.

862
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 7>So I don't know how you guys feel about that,

863
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 7>but I think that could be what the Ruby Tuesday

864
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 7>is about.

865
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 6>So you're saying, like a ranking of her ranking within

866
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 6>the system, yeah, because she's.

867
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 7>The ruby is like one of the most precious of

868
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 7>the gemstones, and the ruby is red for the blood.

869
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 7>It's like the royal blood, the High Priestess Ruby Tuesday.

870
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 7>Because you would think it would be a diamond, right,

871
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:39.920
<v Speaker 7>but look what happened to Maryland. Diamonds are literally worthless

872
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 7>in the end. Rubies are way more precious and you know,

873
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.559
<v Speaker 7>it's like if you look, you'll see these weird gemstones

874
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 7>pop up with a lot of these libs. And if

875
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 7>it's true that she's like royal blood, which she is,

876
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 7>and she's got the pedigree, it's very reminiscent to me

877
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 7>of David Krosby, whose family all goes all the way

878
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 7>back to the founding Fathers and shit, and I feel

879
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.280
<v Speaker 7>like he's always been protected. I mean, there's been multiple

880
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 7>times he should have been arrested and thrown into prison

881
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 7>and got himself into all kinds of a mess, and

882
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.679
<v Speaker 7>he just goes gets off with it.

883
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.639
<v Speaker 6>It sounds I like the rest of the processor, doesn't

884
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 6>It Like Bob Cocaine Evans and John Fellows from the

885
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 6>Mamas and the Papas, these people skirting off on getting

886
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.639
<v Speaker 6>drug trafficking charges right, It's.

887
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 7>Like there is if you go back in the Crosby, Oh,

888
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 7>ruby slippers. I love that they mentioned that because it's

889
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 7>the movie The Wizard of Oz. I've covered it before.

890
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 7>It's very occulted and it's got so many mentions to

891
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 7>magic in there. You've got the ruby slippers for Dorothy.

892
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh. One thing I do Crosby and real quick too

893
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 4>about the ruby. I don't know if this has anything

894
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 4>to do with it, but I could see it being

895
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 4>almost a symbol of alchemy. Most of the time. People

896
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 4>probably don't know this, and I I heard this from

897
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 4>somebody else, so it wasn't like, you know, I figured

898
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 4>this out on my own. Most rubies, you would find

899
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 4>that it would look like a stone until you apply

900
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 4>heat to it, and then it turns into what you

901
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.199
<v Speaker 4>would normally see is the red. So you even do

902
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 4>actually have to apply heat to this thing to get

903
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 4>it to turn into the ruby. So it's kind of

904
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 4>out chemical in the self.

905
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 7>Well, they say that because Tuesday started developing psychic abilities

906
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 7>when she was really young, and clairvoyant abilities that they

907
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 7>almost had to like not blood her in, but they

908
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 7>had to traumatize her in a way that would amplify

909
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 7>I guess, her abilities. So that also goes along with

910
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:46.480
<v Speaker 7>the ruby. It's like they had a heater up a

911
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 7>little bit to turn her into what she became, and

912
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 7>then they protected her her entire life. You know, very

913
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.800
<v Speaker 7>reminiscent to me of David Crosby, because he also like

914
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 7>he's got like founding Fathers, signers of the declar of Independence,

915
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, Civil War generals. I mean, his family tree

916
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:06.880
<v Speaker 7>goes all the fucking way back.

917
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh, they're the New York chapter of the Society. He's

918
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 6>a he's a Van Cortland shooler, I believe, right.

919
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Well, you know that song that The'll sang that

920
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 7>song and it's like Tuesdays on the phone to me

921
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 7>they say in this song. Yes, they say Tuesdays on

922
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 7>the phone to me. If you go back and you

923
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 7>find out what that story is, Tuesday was calling them

924
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 7>from David Crosby's house. Oh so it's like when you

925
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 7>look at these guys, it's like, of course they hang out.

926
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 7>Of course they they're besties, you know, right, Tuesdays over

927
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 7>at David Crosby's house, just casually calling the Beatles, and

928
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 7>they feel like it's so significant they got to put

929
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 7>it in a song.

930
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure.

931
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.920
<v Speaker 6>There's lots of other songs too, right, I mean just

932
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 6>besides the Beatles in the in the you know, in

933
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 6>the But what do you think, so, what do you

934
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 6>think this wasn't her as far as you know, protecting

935
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 6>you or staying out of the limelight, Like do you

936
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.119
<v Speaker 6>think that was her decision? Like she she's quoted in

937
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 6>seventy one and The New York Times saying like, for example,

938
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.159
<v Speaker 6>she didn't take the role for Rosemary's Baby, right, she

939
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 6>declined the role. So do you think that's her decline

940
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 6>the role? Do you think there's somebody like West bring

941
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:20.840
<v Speaker 6>in her ear like you should not be doing. You know,

942
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 6>you do not need to go star in Cocaine Bob Evans,

943
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 6>Ron Planski's processed Church Satan shit you know, shit storm here.

944
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 6>Do you think someone told her that or she's making

945
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 6>on her own call?

946
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:33.719
<v Speaker 7>I don't, Well, I don't think she's making any of

947
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:37.000
<v Speaker 7>her own decisions because she's been like kind of guided

948
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 7>since she was aged twelve with Alfred Hitchcock and stuff.

949
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 7>But right, right, this is what I'll say, because the

950
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 7>dedication in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible is like everyone would

951
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 7>know who that is, who Tuesday is if they saw that, right,

952
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 7>because he also mentions Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. But

953
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 7>there is some other quotes from Anton Levey where he

954
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 7>says he refers to her looks several times and how

955
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:07.079
<v Speaker 7>beautiful she is. He also refers to her witchery as

956
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 7>he says, and he basically describes her as like the

957
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 7>heart of the Ocean jewel, like she's so special and

958
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 7>she's so amazing and elite if you will. But he

959
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 7>also alluded to the fact that Tuesday will never be

960
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.559
<v Speaker 7>in the spotlight because she's serving a greater purpose.

961
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.119
<v Speaker 6>As that's from popular witchcraft, straight from the witch's mouth

962
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 6>in an interview with High Priest Dance on Lavay. You found

963
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 6>it nineteen seventy two, and this is a says two

964
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 6>thousand and five.

965
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 2>That's a reprint.

966
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 7>There you go, right there. He literally says, you know,

967
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 7>Tuesday will never be big, she will never be in

968
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 7>the spotlight because she's so smart and she's serving this

969
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 7>greater purpose. And the greater purpose has nothing to do

970
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 7>with how famous she is.

971
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And in comparison to Mansfield and Monroe, he says, well, Tuesday's.

972
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 8>Part of the rituals, right, Yeah, like Tuesdays like the

973
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 8>upper echelon, where like all these other bitches are like

974
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.400
<v Speaker 8>fodder for the candy, right Like it's just you know,

975
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.079
<v Speaker 8>throw another Jane Mansfield out there, let's get Marilyn Monroe

976
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:13.840
<v Speaker 8>fucked up.

977
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:18.960
<v Speaker 7>And you know it's just I don't know she this

978
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 7>this whole thing about her being involved in rituals and

979
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.760
<v Speaker 7>like obviously the Anton LaVey stuff, and she never did

980
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 7>make it big, but yet she knows everyone and is

981
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 7>traveling with the circles.

982
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 6>In Hope, Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, James Kahn, you know,

983
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 6>al Pacino, a crowd of Cocaine Bob's friends, like Cocaine

984
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 6>Bob's friends, Robert de Niro, you know these are all

985
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 6>her co stars and films.

986
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 7>Right, Yeah, And I guess she's known to show up

987
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 7>so like some of these Hollywood events with like two

988
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 7>giant white wolves with her and.

989
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Stuff like that.

990
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's like, oh Tuesdays here and she's got these

991
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 7>two big, giant white wolves at both of her sides,

992
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 7>and it's like, Okay, here comes the Priestess, here comes

993
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 7>the Biggie, the big Witch, and everybody like Revere's her

994
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.679
<v Speaker 7>Oh Tuesday with the white wolves and shit, you know

995
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 7>she's she's a force to be reckoned with.

996
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty wild.

997
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know. But the thing is, it's like I

998
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 7>said before, she knows everyone. She was in Hollywood for

999
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 7>a little bit, but not to the point where she

1000
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:43.920
<v Speaker 7>got burnt out and thrown away like some of the

1001
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 7>bigger ones. She's definitely part of the counterculture scene. She's

1002
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 7>got songs written about her. She knows the Beatles, the Stones. Imagine, like,

1003
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 7>how many people can you say that were even in

1004
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 7>the Laurel Canyon that could say, oh, the Beatles, the

1005
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 7>Beach Boys, the Stones, they all all wrote songs about me,

1006
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 7>but nobody knows who I.

1007
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:08.599
<v Speaker 6>Am exactly exactly. Yeah, she's She's easily the most influential

1008
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 6>person in the entire scene music, movies, you know, the whole,

1009
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 6>the whole social aspect of it.

1010
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 2>And according to some folks. I so when I asked earlier,

1011
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 2>how you.

1012
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 6>Summoned across well one, whenever I do find people that

1013
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.800
<v Speaker 6>have interested themselves in the life of Tuesday Weld and

1014
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.519
<v Speaker 6>I'm just trying to understand it. I asked that question

1015
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 6>because I came across it in two ways really, So

1016
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.000
<v Speaker 6>my my initial interest was I'd read the works of

1017
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Adam go Rightley and his series that he printed years ago,

1018
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 6>and did a couple of podcast interviews with the guy

1019
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:38.960
<v Speaker 6>I want to sit around two thousand and nine. I

1020
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.760
<v Speaker 6>think he wrote the series in two thousand and seven,

1021
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.320
<v Speaker 6>and NOI Magazine or something like that. I think he's

1022
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 6>reprinted it in books since then, but that was the

1023
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 6>original source. He interviews a guy. Are you familiar with

1024
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 6>the guy I'm talking about? Where the stories come from?

1025
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:56.000
<v Speaker 6>This his source in this in this series, a fellow

1026
00:56:56.039 --> 00:57:00.199
<v Speaker 6>by the name of escape me Jeff, Jeff Jeff Turner.

1027
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Ooh no, what's this Jeff Turner. I believe he's still alive.

1028
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 6>He's an extremely ausistic, severe autistic man who works in

1029
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 6>a soup kitchen I believe in San Jose, California. He

1030
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 6>claims have known Tuesday Weld for a very long time,

1031
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.599
<v Speaker 6>since he was a youngster. He claims Tuesday Weld got

1032
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 6>him involved with spying on one of her underlings that

1033
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 6>had decided to leave her guys and go take over

1034
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 6>what this man described as the Processed Church of the

1035
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:33.800
<v Speaker 6>Final Judgment. That lady's name was Christy McManus. This is

1036
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:37.400
<v Speaker 6>all stuff that's been published. She's still alive, she's still

1037
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.320
<v Speaker 6>love She's running some ocult stuff in Vegas. Last time

1038
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.480
<v Speaker 6>I looked. So that's what I'm saying when I say

1039
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 6>last time I looked, I looked at some of the

1040
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 6>details of this guy, and some of these details do

1041
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.000
<v Speaker 6>check out. This Christy McManus is definitely involved in the occult.

1042
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.360
<v Speaker 6>Whether or not she was Tuesday, well, it's underling. I

1043
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.360
<v Speaker 6>couldn't tell you. But nonetheless, this fella doesn't seem to

1044
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:57.400
<v Speaker 6>be spending the yarns in large part of you asking me,

1045
00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 6>there's some I'm not willing to throw the baby out

1046
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.280
<v Speaker 6>with the with the bathtub, you know what I mean,

1047
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 6>just because the.

1048
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 7>Guys, that's that's like oddly specific for it now to

1049
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.039
<v Speaker 7>stay weld like literally, why would ever?

1050
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 6>No one knows exactly, no one knows he is, right,

1051
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.000
<v Speaker 6>So this dude has this whole story go rightly. I

1052
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 6>believe his sense concluded after years later that he's he's

1053
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:22.880
<v Speaker 6>he's kind of just moved away from this, this whole

1054
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.480
<v Speaker 6>narrative and stuff. You don't think he has anybody my understanding.

1055
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.880
<v Speaker 6>He no longer has any buying into it. But you

1056
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.039
<v Speaker 6>know what a Discordian thing to do, if you ask me,

1057
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 6>mm hmm, she like the chief Discordian.

1058
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 7>Well, and the fact that she's still alive and could

1059
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 7>dispute that if she found out about it.

1060
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:44.480
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I think she's ever commented, right, I don't

1061
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 6>think she ever coming Well, maybe this dude was allegedly

1062
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.440
<v Speaker 6>spying on this network of this Tuesday Wells underlings in

1063
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.440
<v Speaker 6>the eighties out of San Jose and then would later

1064
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.800
<v Speaker 6>describe these activities to Adam go rightly relative to this

1065
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 6>Charles Manson cult. So according to this dude, Tuesday Weld

1066
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.880
<v Speaker 6>was calling all the shots in the Manson murder like she.

1067
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Was at that level of the situation.

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00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's that's his student's statements, Jeff Turner statements. Now again,

1069
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.679
<v Speaker 6>I will offer this disclaimer. Jeff Turner, they made him.

1070
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 6>I don't think he's nearly his Looney tunes. I highly

1071
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 6>doubt he's nearly these looney tunes. These two filmmakers made

1072
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.679
<v Speaker 6>him out to be. But I think it was intentional.

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00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 6>So after he told these stories to go rightly and

1074
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.440
<v Speaker 6>go rightly published him. Two film students tonight, two film

1075
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 6>students from NYU show up in San Jose, California. I

1076
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 6>think is how the story goes, and they want to

1077
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 6>film a documentary about the man. Will they turn that

1078
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 6>that documentary into Jeff Turner's obsession with the singer Tiffany.

1079
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:40.559
<v Speaker 2>And he was arrested.

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00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:44.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he was arrested outside somewhere in the eighties with

1081
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 6>a samurai sword. He was trying to give the Tiffany.

1082
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 6>So you know, there is there's obviously a bit of.

1083
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:50.679
<v Speaker 2>A narrative there.

1084
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 7>Why Tiffany.

1085
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.679
<v Speaker 6>He's got a whole separate story where Tiffany runs a

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00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:57.519
<v Speaker 6>different faction opposite Tuesday.

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00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:06.000
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, stop it, stopitch her Tiffany's assistant.

1088
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:07.719
<v Speaker 6>And again, I'm not trying to discredit the guy's story

1089
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 6>because again, some of the stuff conta chexts out over

1090
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 6>the years. Right, this is something he said back in

1091
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.360
<v Speaker 6>like two thousand and seven. Tiffany's assistant in that opposing

1092
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 6>faction of Tuesday World was Alyssa Milano. Think about how

1093
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.280
<v Speaker 6>many occult films Alyssa Milana has done. Think about how

1094
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.639
<v Speaker 6>much weird political stuff she's inserted herself into in recent years.

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01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god. And all these people are still alive

1096
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 7>and could very easily like dispute these things, and they're

1097
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 7>not saying a peep.

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01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So these filmmakers turned Jeff Turner into complete looney.

1099
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.719
<v Speaker 6>To him, I putting him into a film about stalkers

1100
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 6>of Tiffany. Right, Well, he was clearly a stalker of Tiffany.

1101
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't so much a fan of her music. He

1102
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:50.760
<v Speaker 6>was part he was trying to he had some whole

1103
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.960
<v Speaker 6>thing where he's obsessed with this whole He's familiar with

1104
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:54.800
<v Speaker 6>this whole cult network, right, you know what I mean. So,

1105
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:57.599
<v Speaker 6>but they really framed it in a, I think a

1106
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 6>very weird light with these filmmakers and this documentary. So

1107
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 6>this documentary was pretty big. So if anyone had any

1108
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 6>dispute about these subjects, like you're saying, there was there,

1109
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:07.960
<v Speaker 6>they had opportunities to dispute.

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01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:14.639
<v Speaker 7>Well, listen, it's just funny you say this because somebody

1111
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 7>who came up before we started recording. I guess I'll

1112
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 7>just sut it out there since Tiffany came up.

1113
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 3>But.

1114
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard that name in a while, righty, Right.

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01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:29.360
<v Speaker 7>Well, so my brother is a musician and he has

1116
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 7>the same manager as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails,

1117
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 7>and he has been able to meet Marilyn Manson and

1118
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 7>Tiffany and some of these bigger people and huh, yeah,

1119
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 7>he hung out with Tiffany. But no, so he's he's

1120
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 7>like asked Marilyn Manson like questions and he calls him

1121
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 7>Brian and shit and like apparently I don't know his

1122
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 7>last name. My brother alway just says Brian, But he

1123
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 7>I guess Brian told him this story about like Hunter S.

1124
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:13.280
<v Speaker 7>Thompson and Johnny Depp and like all this weird stuff.

1125
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 7>And he was wearing these sunglasses that belonged to Hunter S.

1126
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 7>Thompson and he took them off and he like gave

1127
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.000
<v Speaker 7>him to my brother and just let him wear him

1128
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.639
<v Speaker 7>around for a while or whatever. But anyways, he said

1129
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 7>that like Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and they all hang

1130
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.880
<v Speaker 7>out together well, and like they all meet up at

1131
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.599
<v Speaker 7>the same clubs and play together and stuff.

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01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what you're describing to me is more details confirming

1133
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:40.199
<v Speaker 6>the tales of Jeff Turner.

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01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:42.480
<v Speaker 7>That's why I brought it up is because I have

1135
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:47.960
<v Speaker 7>never heard Tiffany ever besides my brother say that those

1136
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.159
<v Speaker 7>two were connected.

1137
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Was cool with him too, Thompson, No, with uh, Marylyn, Yeah,

1138
01:02:59.119 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I did not.

1139
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Know that those pictures.

1140
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, Hunter Thompson makes sense to me.

1141
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.679
<v Speaker 6>He strikes me as an og processed guy, like his

1142
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 6>connections with depth. Their friendship over the years and we're

1143
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 6>Manson for that matter, makes sense because Hunter S. Thompson

1144
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:16.480
<v Speaker 6>was doing security at the Eslam Institute when they were

1145
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 6>constructing the place. Yeah, he was living, he was living

1146
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.480
<v Speaker 6>on the grounds, he chasing people off with his forty five.

1147
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:26.880
<v Speaker 7>Dude, there's so much stuff about him. You ever heard

1148
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 7>that he like fucked his cat and stuff like that.

1149
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Not shocked, not shocked.

1150
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, you know the reason I bring it up

1151
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.400
<v Speaker 7>to is because like Marilyn Manson, right, it's Marilyn Monroe

1152
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.599
<v Speaker 7>and Charles Manson yeah together, right, and those are two

1153
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 7>people we just got done talking about. And so he's

1154
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 7>traveling in these circles with I guess process people like Tiffany, right,

1155
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.360
<v Speaker 7>and somehow Tuesday Weld is in there too, Like, dude,

1156
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 7>that blows my mind that she even came up. And

1157
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.519
<v Speaker 7>I literally have never told that story to anyway before.

1158
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:01.760
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

1159
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Tiffany electronic music stuff.

1160
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 2>She was that mall pop singer.

1161
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:10.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm just wondering if the style of music was even

1162
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.000
<v Speaker 4>processed church people, because remember they were big into the ship.

1163
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't always have to sound like industrial, you know what

1164
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying.

1165
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 6>If you're digital music, that eighties kind of electrical rock,

1166
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:22.960
<v Speaker 6>right or whatever, Like you never didn't have a band

1167
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:23.320
<v Speaker 6>or whatever.

1168
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 2>She just sang with some music, right.

1169
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean you know, I'm sure you know a

1170
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.239
<v Speaker 7>Tiffany song, Nick, Yeah.

1171
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.280
<v Speaker 4>I know, I know for sure. I just can't think

1172
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 4>of it.

1173
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:35.880
<v Speaker 7>I was going to say everybody, everybody knows, like I

1174
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.760
<v Speaker 7>think we're alone now yeah.

1175
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the actual music if

1176
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 4>it was like digital, like you know, it was electronic

1177
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:44.239
<v Speaker 4>or was it like actual instrument It was like, I

1178
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 4>can't remember.

1179
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 7>Everything else that came out sound yeah, I mean, how

1180
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 7>do you even describe as like electronic kind of weirdas sounding? Yeah,

1181
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.920
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, no, I'm I mean, damn Tiffany that bit.

1182
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 7>Oh my goodness, I can't believe.

1183
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe.

1184
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 6>I can't believe you had a story about Tiffany relative

1185
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:15.039
<v Speaker 6>the process. That's fantastic.

1186
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.119
<v Speaker 7>Well, I just had never heard anybody to make that

1187
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 7>connection before. And you know, sometimes I get stories from

1188
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 7>my brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool.

1189
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 7>But I don't know how to put the pieces together.

1190
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm sure Manson said stuff about Depp, and

1191
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 7>he said stuff about Hunter s Thompson and stuff, but

1192
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.400
<v Speaker 7>then he mentioned this Tiffany and I was like, well,

1193
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:34.719
<v Speaker 7>what did she have one fucking song in the eighties

1194
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:38.000
<v Speaker 7>that everybody knows? Like, who is this who is this girl? Anyways?

1195
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 7>And oh my god, now it makes sense.

1196
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:46.360
<v Speaker 6>So according to Jeff Turner, she's born she's also of

1197
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 6>some some like lees I believe Lebanese heritage, where she's

1198
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 6>like some sort of Soufi hyph priestess much like Tuesday

1199
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.119
<v Speaker 6>Well was born into Celtic hypriestess.

1200
01:05:57.400 --> 01:05:59.199
<v Speaker 2>The way he explains it is like she was born

1201
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 2>to a Sufi hype role.

1202
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 7>And what is this guy's name, Jeff Turner?

1203
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'll be happy to introduce you in the folks

1204
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 6>of the interwebs to Jeff Turner.

1205
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:09.239
<v Speaker 4>Here, somebody's asking about Debbie Gibson.

1206
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:13.519
<v Speaker 6>Now, let me, let me let me find uh, let

1207
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:17.320
<v Speaker 6>me find the actual trailer tailor. I mean you look up,

1208
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.239
<v Speaker 6>you can look up his videos. There's a whacky dude.

1209
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying some of his Uh, somebody.

1210
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 7>Asked about Blondie.

1211
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that Blondie Debbie Gibson?

1212
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:36.280
<v Speaker 7>Mm hmm, wasn't that her name? Oh no, I'm gonna

1213
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 7>google it.

1214
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Ibbi Gibson was a difference here, right?

1215
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 7>Oh was it? What's what was Blondie's name?

1216
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Why can't I find the actual trailer to this documentary?

1217
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:48.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1218
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 7>Blondie's real name was Angela nevermind fuck me, oh no,

1219
01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:02.159
<v Speaker 7>Debbie Debbie Harry was born Angela Tremble and then became Blondie.

1220
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 7>So her name is Debbie Harry.

1221
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 6>Look, if you want to pop that on screen, all interditional,

1222
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.440
<v Speaker 6>Jeff Turner, like, this guy looks great.

1223
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 9>Known each other most of her life, and known each

1224
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.159
<v Speaker 9>other most different her life, and we are in love

1225
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:26.519
<v Speaker 9>with each other. And she's a great singer.

1226
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 6>The difference between me and so that's the other stalker

1227
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:34.800
<v Speaker 6>they put in the film this I don't transfeste. Yeah,

1228
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.519
<v Speaker 6>I think it was actually her maprodit I think it

1229
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.559
<v Speaker 6>actually did have think if I recall correctly from watching

1230
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:43.440
<v Speaker 6>this documentary years ago, they described it as having multiple

1231
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 6>sex organs of some sort because at some point in

1232
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.320
<v Speaker 6>time the autistic fella makes fun of fun of it.

1233
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:50.920
<v Speaker 2>For that or whatever, it becomes a thing.

1234
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 7>So can I just say before you hit play again

1235
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 7>that this person on screen, if you can't see, looks

1236
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 7>like Annie Lennox and Marilyn Manson mixed together. It's like

1237
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:03.840
<v Speaker 7>the same.

1238
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 4>You're on point with that.

1239
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.599
<v Speaker 6>They claim they were making the documentary about Turner, and

1240
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 6>they made it more about this character.

1241
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:13.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why I didn't know.

1242
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:17.960
<v Speaker 7>I mean they they've already done a great job making

1243
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:19.399
<v Speaker 7>him look crazy.

1244
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:21.319
<v Speaker 6>Right, they give them you know, they don't really even

1245
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:23.199
<v Speaker 6>introduce him. He's just like, Oh, I love Tiffany, and

1246
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 6>then they show you this character.

1247
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:31.600
<v Speaker 2>And they don't truly love love the individual.

1248
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:34.319
<v Speaker 9>As a sixteen year old, she was forced to get

1249
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 9>a restraining order against Jeff Dean Turner my whole name

1250
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:37.920
<v Speaker 9>in there.

1251
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 4>I think you might need a sink some of counseling.

1252
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I might ask nothing like a stalker to laugh about

1253
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the court.

1254
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:52.359
<v Speaker 7>They god, but I mean, don't autistic people. It's like

1255
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:55.000
<v Speaker 7>they just say whatever they know, like they have no

1256
01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:57.279
<v Speaker 7>reason to like make stuff up.

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01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.119
<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm saying. This dude's clearly got alts. You

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01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.399
<v Speaker 6>have to understand that what I'm saying, I'm willing to

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01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:03.239
<v Speaker 6>throw the baby out with the batsup because the stuff

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01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:05.199
<v Speaker 6>he says about Tuesday weld and even some of the

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01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.159
<v Speaker 6>stuff he says about Tiffany checks out she is from

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01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:09.119
<v Speaker 6>this weird family.

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01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:13.039
<v Speaker 7>Right, Well, so this is this is kind of on

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01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:16.239
<v Speaker 7>point and kind of off point. But have you guys

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01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 7>watched like Love Spectrum on Netflix? You have.

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01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Twice yes, Okay, So I.

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01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 7>Really was unfamiliar with how autistic people could be until

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01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 7>I watched that show. And they don't. They don't. They're

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01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:35.680
<v Speaker 7>not big into lying. They will literally tell you all

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01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.479
<v Speaker 7>about your fucking self, and like they'll be like, I

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01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 7>don't even I want to go, right, I go on

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01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:43.319
<v Speaker 7>a date with you.

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01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 6>Right, They'll just say some off the wall shit that

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01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:52.359
<v Speaker 6>is absolutely accurate and honest, but it's not exactly socially appropriate.

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01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:55.319
<v Speaker 7>So that's what I'm saying, is like, yeah, okay, this

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01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:58.079
<v Speaker 7>guy's autistic, whatever you want to say about him. He's

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01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 7>got a weird obsession with Tiffany, which, by the way,

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01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 7>I'm starting to figure out, a lot of people with

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01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:08.199
<v Speaker 7>autism fixate on things that are just like weird obsessions about,

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01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:12.039
<v Speaker 7>like dinosaurs and like star Wars or whatever.

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01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.199
<v Speaker 6>In his weird obsession was Tuesday Wild, so he would

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01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.520
<v Speaker 6>go to the Many, He would go to the set

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01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.359
<v Speaker 6>of The Many Lives of Debbie Gillis, much like he

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01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:22.119
<v Speaker 6>was stalking, you know, Tiffany as an adult.

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01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.079
<v Speaker 2>As a young child, his parents were taking him to

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01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:24.960
<v Speaker 2>go see Tuesday Wild.

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01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.840
<v Speaker 7>See, That's what I'm saying is they developed these strange

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01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 7>interests and they like involved themselves with it, but not

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01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:37.560
<v Speaker 7>to the degree of like fabricating stuff, right, They just

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01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 7>became right right, I think, I think, you know, they

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01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.079
<v Speaker 7>get so obsessed with it they want to know everything.

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01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:48.560
<v Speaker 7>So if there was somebody to ask about this who

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01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:50.800
<v Speaker 7>would know literally all the details, it would be a

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01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:51.680
<v Speaker 7>guy like that.

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01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, And it's just so weird to me.

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01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:57.079
<v Speaker 6>After he drops all these Tuesday Weld details and gets

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01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:59.560
<v Speaker 6>published in Steam Shovel Press and Paranoid Magazine and some

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01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.199
<v Speaker 6>other PubL locations from Adam go Rightley, the author who

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01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 6>interviewed him, that that film gets made immediately thereafter because.

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01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:10.479
<v Speaker 7>They got to make him look like a kook, absolutely

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01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:16.159
<v Speaker 7>and put a transvestite Annie Lennox in there. Absolutely what

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01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 7>what was Annie Lennox was talking about his character.

1303
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:23.079
<v Speaker 2>The other character in there, Yeah.

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01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.239
<v Speaker 7>The one that looks like Marilyn Manson, and.

1305
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the Personal Trainer freak show. You know, it's I

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01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:31.199
<v Speaker 6>honestly think, if I recall correctly, I looked up and

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01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't think that person's any longer any longer with us,

1308
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:35.640
<v Speaker 6>but it's it had a lot of problems.

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01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:36.640
<v Speaker 2>They had a lot of problems.

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01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:39.399
<v Speaker 7>I could tell.

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01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:41.520
<v Speaker 4>I still think a lot of I still think a

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01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.720
<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff that is filmed as in a reality

1313
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:47.319
<v Speaker 4>type situation is not at all. I think it's all

1314
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:49.880
<v Speaker 4>still scripted. And it's like, like me and JJ have

1315
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:51.920
<v Speaker 4>even said this, like these might be people and maybe

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01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:55.159
<v Speaker 4>even a perfect example of Tuesday will this somehow related

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01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:57.479
<v Speaker 4>to somebody who are important somehow, either because of a

1318
01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.479
<v Speaker 4>club or a family, and they're like, yeah, this is me,

1319
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.680
<v Speaker 4>you could do this. We got this going mm hmm.

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01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 4>And then that's just their way of getting in there

1321
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 4>and getting something to do and getting money.

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01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:10.800
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, oh go ahead, JJ, No, I was

1323
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:13.840
<v Speaker 6>just saying again, I think to this guy's situations, it's

1324
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:16.439
<v Speaker 6>to some degree he's part of these same families as well. Right,

1325
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:21.960
<v Speaker 6>So apparently Tephanie's Jeffrey Turner, so he is all tests

1326
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:23.760
<v Speaker 6>he has, you know, I think he's just born into

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01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:25.199
<v Speaker 6>a system where he they couldn't use the guy for

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01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 6>anything else, and he just he just seemed to take

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01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 6>take notice of everything going on around him.

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01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the way. That's kind of way I

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01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:31.079
<v Speaker 2>took his situation.

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01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.199
<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, because I mean, if you look at some

1333
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:37.520
<v Speaker 7>of even the people who came out in the sixties,

1334
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 7>some of them weren't even like very talented, but they

1335
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:44.279
<v Speaker 7>became huge megastars.

1336
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 2>And most were not talented, you know what I'm.

1337
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:49.840
<v Speaker 7>Saying then, right, Like sure, and there were some that

1338
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 7>could sing and play instruments, but like for the majority,

1339
01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 7>was like, is this even good? But they made it good.

1340
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.840
<v Speaker 7>They made it so popular that you think that it's good.

1341
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 2>You know who made it good?

1342
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:04.479
<v Speaker 6>People like Phil Processed, Phil Spector and process, Bob Cocaine Evans.

1343
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:07.720
<v Speaker 6>You know, these are the people running the music in

1344
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 6>the movies in Hollywood at the time. Right the Laurel

1345
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:11.479
<v Speaker 6>Canyon scene, that's all Phil Spector, you.

1346
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Know, right.

1347
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:17.399
<v Speaker 7>I just you know, I've listened to like Crosby Still

1348
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.800
<v Speaker 7>Nash and the Birds and like all these people, and

1349
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:27.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, they're not extraordinarily talented, you know, vocally or

1350
01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 7>I mean, there was some really cool songs that came

1351
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:33.960
<v Speaker 7>out during that decade. That's why I love it so much.

1352
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:37.199
<v Speaker 7>But I don't know, it was just like, you know,

1353
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:41.479
<v Speaker 7>they're all their families are military or like real high up,

1354
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.560
<v Speaker 7>and it's like, Okay, you're gonna sing, now, you're gonna

1355
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:46.159
<v Speaker 7>do this, now, you're gonna.

1356
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:50.920
<v Speaker 6>Be exactly now exactly so Turners. Turner's father and stepfather

1357
01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:55.960
<v Speaker 6>were fighter pilots, and apparently Tiffany has some relations to

1358
01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:57.600
<v Speaker 6>that same group of fighter pilots.

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01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:02.239
<v Speaker 7>My god, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Though, It's

1360
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:05.239
<v Speaker 7>like they don't even have to really be that talented

1361
01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:07.359
<v Speaker 7>as long as their family with someone.

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01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's be honest, with Tiffany talented.

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01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.399
<v Speaker 6>She may be more known for her Playboy apparents showing

1364
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:12.960
<v Speaker 6>her tits in the nineties than her mall hit in

1365
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:13.439
<v Speaker 6>the eighties.

1366
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>No Shit, No Ship right right after.

1367
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:22.359
<v Speaker 6>That movie was made with that I Think We're Alone

1368
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 6>Now documentary this guy here in the in the Silicon

1369
01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:28.399
<v Speaker 6>Valley area, some sort of tech blog Metro Silicon Valley

1370
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:32.079
<v Speaker 6>interviews Jeffrey Deane Turner there, you know, in the aftermath

1371
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:34.800
<v Speaker 6>of that film, and is obviously roasting him, but he

1372
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 6>goes over a lot of the details that Turner tells

1373
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:38.720
<v Speaker 6>him and the and their and their lunch they had together,

1374
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:42.279
<v Speaker 6>including which that that Turner claims that he met Charles

1375
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.279
<v Speaker 6>Manson in the late sixties but refused being doctrinated into

1376
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.399
<v Speaker 6>his family, and he also met David Berkowitz, the son

1377
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:49.600
<v Speaker 6>of same serial killer, when he used to hang out

1378
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:52.439
<v Speaker 6>in the South Bay in the seventies, makes a lot

1379
01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:55.880
<v Speaker 6>of sense. Mouth makes a lot of sense. Oh my god,

1380
01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:58.520
<v Speaker 6>all process stuff, It's certainly possible in my opinion.

1381
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:01.199
<v Speaker 7>I wanted to shout out out somebody I saw in

1382
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:05.960
<v Speaker 7>the comments, Tara, what's up girl? Thank you so much.

1383
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:13.800
<v Speaker 7>I appreciate you. But you know, the Son of Sam thing,

1384
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.560
<v Speaker 7>if you really look into it, you and I did

1385
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 7>program to kill on occult rejects before, and he's in there,

1386
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:26.439
<v Speaker 7>and you know, it's it's like he can't even he

1387
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:28.840
<v Speaker 7>can't even be placed at the scene for some of

1388
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:32.720
<v Speaker 7>the murders that he went down for, and yet he

1389
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 7>gets blamed for everything. And he tried to say, like,

1390
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:40.119
<v Speaker 7>there's a much bigger thing going on. There's multiple layers.

1391
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:45.720
<v Speaker 7>This is this is like I mean, is it process?

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01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I got it.

1393
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:49.439
<v Speaker 6>I have another show coming up on Wednesday night talking

1394
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:52.920
<v Speaker 6>precisely this on the same in the process with author

1395
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.439
<v Speaker 6>Jonathan Mitchell, so you know.

1396
01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:57.439
<v Speaker 7>What I'm talking about. Then that he said like, hey,

1397
01:15:57.479 --> 01:15:58.800
<v Speaker 7>this is a way bigger thing.

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01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh for not just me.

1399
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:05.359
<v Speaker 7>I didn't do all this. I'm so I mean.

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01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.840
<v Speaker 6>You signed a memorandum stating all that nineteen ninety six

1401
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.039
<v Speaker 6>and witness not only by Mary Terry, the author of

1402
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Ultimate Evil, but there's another party whose names Escaping Me.

1403
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:16.319
<v Speaker 6>He's also signed there. He names people like Roy Cone,

1404
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:18.640
<v Speaker 6>donald Trump's mentors, being a member of the knew it.

1405
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 7>I knew it, dude.

1406
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:22.319
<v Speaker 4>Something off with.

1407
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:24.720
<v Speaker 7>Roy Cone.

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01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you you and and you and I think maybe

1409
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:29.239
<v Speaker 4>JJ both have brought his name up multiple times.

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01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:33.439
<v Speaker 7>Oh, I talked about that is a piece of shit.

1411
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:36.439
<v Speaker 7>And it's like it's, like I said before, I think

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01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:38.720
<v Speaker 7>maybe it was in the Program to Kill episode. But

1413
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 7>it's like, all right, we're gonna take all of these

1414
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.239
<v Speaker 7>people that Donald Trump knows that are like his mentors

1415
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:52.159
<v Speaker 7>and stuff, people like Roy Khne and and they're known

1416
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:55.720
<v Speaker 7>to be pieces of shit, and we're just gonna disregard

1417
01:16:55.760 --> 01:17:00.199
<v Speaker 7>that they have any connection to each other. Why is that? Like,

1418
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:01.399
<v Speaker 7>I don't understand it.

1419
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess that's sometimes I wonder if

1420
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:08.720
<v Speaker 4>that's like part of the magic in itself. I think, well,

1421
01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:11.760
<v Speaker 4>it's it's almost as if like I think, you know,

1422
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 4>I've heard somebody say that they they think they saw

1423
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:16.800
<v Speaker 4>this happen with I can't remember, some some kind of newscaster,

1424
01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.319
<v Speaker 4>but like people like start to almost kind of build

1425
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 4>like some false relationship with this person and almost start

1426
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:25.479
<v Speaker 4>having feelings for them even though they've never met. And

1427
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.199
<v Speaker 4>it's so hard to believe something bad about someone after that.

1428
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.760
<v Speaker 4>And if you look at a lot of Trump supporters,

1429
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 4>they're they're infatuated with the guy.

1430
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.760
<v Speaker 7>Well, they think he's like a messiah or something.

1431
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.520
<v Speaker 4>So it's so hard to After that guy came out

1432
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:41.720
<v Speaker 4>on what was it, day day two and started talking

1433
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.279
<v Speaker 4>about the vaccines, I don't know how most Trump supporters

1434
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:46.479
<v Speaker 4>weren't like, what the fuck.

1435
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:50.079
<v Speaker 7>Dude, But they're in love with one hundred. They're in

1436
01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:55.199
<v Speaker 7>love with them, and it's like it's like he's best

1437
01:17:55.279 --> 01:18:00.319
<v Speaker 7>he's with or it was at least besties with Epstein. Right,

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01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.680
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna forget that one too, I guess, even though

1439
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 7>there's pictures of him together. You know, we're gonna forget

1440
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:10.920
<v Speaker 7>about Roy JJ. Youre muted.

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01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Apstely never heard of him?

1442
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:16.880
<v Speaker 7>Oh right, you're right, never heard of him, never heard,

1443
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:19.800
<v Speaker 7>never heard of him. I guess that's like I said,

1444
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:23.439
<v Speaker 7>that's another one that they want you to forget about.

1445
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.560
<v Speaker 7>But this Roy Cohne guy, Oh my god, JJ, you

1446
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.359
<v Speaker 7>got to tell Nick more about him sometime he's he's

1447
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.439
<v Speaker 7>literally like, wasn't he the one with the violet scandal

1448
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:35.279
<v Speaker 7>or whatever?

1449
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did it, we did.

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01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:39.159
<v Speaker 6>Uh, we're gonna We're gonna do some more on and

1451
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:40.640
<v Speaker 6>I think, but we did it on the last one

1452
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:43.880
<v Speaker 6>of the Mormons and uh with the HETI love. We

1453
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:47.319
<v Speaker 6>did a whole series of Mormons and parapolitics. And Roy

1454
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 6>Cone comes into play because he's on the board of

1455
01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 6>Perman Decks and that you FK situation along along with

1456
01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:56.680
<v Speaker 6>the Clay Shaw, the man that Jim Garrison charged, and

1457
01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:01.039
<v Speaker 6>the and Joseph Banano, the head of the Five Families.

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01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:02.479
<v Speaker 6>He was the head of Banana family, but he was

1459
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:04.119
<v Speaker 6>the head of the board of the Five Families at

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01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:06.439
<v Speaker 6>the time in New York City. They're all sitting on

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01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:12.039
<v Speaker 6>this weird multinational corporation board that's in charge of American presidents.

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01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:15.159
<v Speaker 6>Like they try to mark the French president twice m.

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01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:19.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and he was wasn't he doing something around the

1464
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.199
<v Speaker 7>time like the Franklin scandal was going on where they

1465
01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 7>were bringing little boys to the White House and stuff.

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01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:26.600
<v Speaker 7>That was Roy Cohne's time.

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01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I think he was he was dead at that time.

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01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:30.479
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like he.

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01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:32.640
<v Speaker 6>I think he died just prior to the Franklin I

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01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.560
<v Speaker 6>mean he may have been evolved in the Franklin scandal

1471
01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 6>by all means, I'm I wouldn't doubt it. The man

1472
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:40.680
<v Speaker 6>was well connected in politics and Devlin. So, but I

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01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:42.119
<v Speaker 6>think he died of age in eighty six.

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01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:47.479
<v Speaker 7>Well he I remember Paul Banasi saying something about him.

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01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:48.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:50.479
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he may he made I don't know enough of

1477
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:52.359
<v Speaker 6>the details about the Franklin stuff. He may very well

1478
01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:54.760
<v Speaker 6>come up with that. He because obviously the Franklin scandal

1479
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:56.319
<v Speaker 6>may got outed in the eighties, but it was obviously

1480
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:57.479
<v Speaker 6>going on a lot longer.

1481
01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:59.439
<v Speaker 7>Than that, right yep, yep, yep, yep. It went all

1482
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.159
<v Speaker 7>the way into the nineties with that civil trial.

1483
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1484
01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:09.359
<v Speaker 7>So but anyways, that's besides the point. Roy Cone knows

1485
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:12.439
<v Speaker 7>the son of Sam Oh.

1486
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:14.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he claimed to meet him and gone to his parties.

1487
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:16.279
<v Speaker 6>They all hung out to the Studio fifty four together.

1488
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:19.000
<v Speaker 6>So another member of the colt was allegedly an aid

1489
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 6>to the mayor Abe Beam.

1490
01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:22.840
<v Speaker 2>That man was.

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01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:26.479
<v Speaker 6>Also that was he left that job and became roy

1492
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:30.039
<v Speaker 6>Cone's law partner in the late seventies. There their clients

1493
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:32.960
<v Speaker 6>were the Studio fifty four owners, That's what.

1494
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:35.720
<v Speaker 7>And then he went on to be Trump's mentor.

1495
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh, he's already mentor at this point. He meets Trump

1496
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:45.680
<v Speaker 6>in nineteen seventy three, Roger Stone introduces the two Roger

1497
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:47.600
<v Speaker 6>Stone just meets Trump. He says, Hey, you got to

1498
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:51.079
<v Speaker 6>meet my friend Roy Cone. So Donald had just hired

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01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:55.199
<v Speaker 6>him in seventy minutes, crazy seventy eight. I think it's

1500
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 6>seventy eight. You can find a picture of it.

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01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:57.279
<v Speaker 2>It's called.

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01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:03.039
<v Speaker 6>Called Roy Cones fifty second birthday party at Studio fifty four.

1503
01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:06.079
<v Speaker 6>It was a vandy Fair article and stuff. Roy Cones

1504
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:08.600
<v Speaker 6>got like on a little leash, like a little cross dressing.

1505
01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:10.520
<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump right next to him there at his party.

1506
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:12.359
<v Speaker 6>He's think, Donald's twenty eight.

1507
01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.359
<v Speaker 2>You have that picture he just hired. I'll find it.

1508
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:17.560
<v Speaker 6>He just hires Roy Cone as his attorney for this

1509
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:20.800
<v Speaker 6>building he's purchasing, and then Roy's having his birthday party

1510
01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:23.239
<v Speaker 6>at the club where his other clients he's representing in

1511
01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:26.239
<v Speaker 6>some coke trafficking, the Studio fifty four owners. You know,

1512
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:30.039
<v Speaker 6>that was basically so according to Burkewitz, Studio fiftyour was

1513
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.119
<v Speaker 6>essentially the Processed Church hangout.

1514
01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:36.680
<v Speaker 7>So he's hanging out, So roy is hanging out with

1515
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.800
<v Speaker 7>the son of Sam Berkowitz and Trump cross dressed on

1516
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:44.039
<v Speaker 7>a leash all during the same time.

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01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.

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01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:47.720
<v Speaker 6>I like to look at it like this that somewhere

1519
01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:50.960
<v Speaker 6>around Sirraa nineteen seventies seventy seven, you may have, in fact,

1520
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:55.680
<v Speaker 6>had Donald Trump, Roy Cone, David Berkowitz, and Michael Jackson

1521
01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.680
<v Speaker 6>moonwalking around the dance floor of Studio fifty four together.

1522
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:03.279
<v Speaker 7>I can't shut the fuck absolutely up.

1523
01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, they were all there.

1524
01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:09.960
<v Speaker 7>This is why, this is why I can't get on

1525
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:16.079
<v Speaker 7>board with any politics whatsoever. It's like you literally, you

1526
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.039
<v Speaker 7>literally cannot choose a team when it comes to this

1527
01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:25.800
<v Speaker 7>stuff because they're all just cross dressing processed Church members exactly.

1528
01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:28.479
<v Speaker 6>Oh, this is this is the article about. But the

1529
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:30.800
<v Speaker 6>birthday boy Roy Cone is fifty two. At fifty four,

1530
01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:33.680
<v Speaker 6>I'll to find the picture. But in this article you'll

1531
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.079
<v Speaker 6>see another person who I like to who's got connections

1532
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:37.560
<v Speaker 6>to the next Sium colt or as I like to

1533
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:41.319
<v Speaker 6>call them, the Albany Chapter of the Processed Church, and

1534
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.680
<v Speaker 6>that is here at Roy k They go over all

1535
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.760
<v Speaker 6>the people to show up here at Roy Cone's birthday party,

1536
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:47.600
<v Speaker 6>and I'll go over.

1537
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has listened here too.

1538
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:52.920
<v Speaker 6>But you got mob figures, you got, you know, mayors,

1539
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 6>you got you know, you got judges, you know what

1540
01:22:56.079 --> 01:22:57.720
<v Speaker 6>I mean, District court judges.

1541
01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:57.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

1542
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:01.439
<v Speaker 6>And then you scroll down here and see, uh, Chuck

1543
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:08.479
<v Speaker 6>Schumer Junior. Wow, newcomer, Chuck Schumer, a reform assemblyman from Brooklyn.

1544
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:10.680
<v Speaker 6>He's not even he's not even US Congress yet, this

1545
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.840
<v Speaker 6>is he's assembly man from Brooklyn. Why he was just

1546
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:17.239
<v Speaker 6>the date of a gossip columnist. He Suckroy off.

1547
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:19.439
<v Speaker 7>He sucked him off and became.

1548
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:22.840
<v Speaker 6>I would argue, is the reason why he's connected to

1549
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:24.520
<v Speaker 6>the next to him stuff now is because he was

1550
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:27.039
<v Speaker 6>connected to the process stuff back then and he.

1551
01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:34.119
<v Speaker 7>Was sucking dudes off. I'm telling you, I.

1552
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Think that you have accept that going in the door,

1553
01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I think right, right?

1554
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:42.680
<v Speaker 7>Have you guys ever watched Adventures in Babysitting and it's

1555
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:46.680
<v Speaker 7>like you, nobody leaves his place without singing the blues, well,

1556
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:49.720
<v Speaker 7>without sucking the dick.

1557
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:51.039
<v Speaker 3>So that's right.

1558
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:54.600
<v Speaker 7>Hey, wasn't that Chuck Berry in that that said that

1559
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:56.720
<v Speaker 7>nobody gets out of here without singing the blues? That

1560
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:57.479
<v Speaker 7>was Chuck Berry?

1561
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Was that really Chuck Berry? Holy shiite? Movieon?

1562
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:01.000
<v Speaker 3>So long?

1563
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Erry ye, so long?

1564
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:05.960
<v Speaker 6>Is that around the same time he was filming, he

1565
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:07.800
<v Speaker 6>was filming prostitutes to fart in his mouth?

1566
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh come on.

1567
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1568
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.880
<v Speaker 6>When they raided they raided his house in the late nineties,

1569
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.079
<v Speaker 6>early I think it was late nineties. He had installed

1570
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:17.640
<v Speaker 6>cameras and all these kfcas and taco bells across the

1571
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.159
<v Speaker 6>Midwest that he owned in women's toilets, and he got

1572
01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:23.600
<v Speaker 6>in The FEDS rated the restaurants in his house about that.

1573
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:26.399
<v Speaker 6>When they raided his house, the FED seized a box

1574
01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:29.600
<v Speaker 6>of videos of him recording himself hiring hookers just to

1575
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.880
<v Speaker 6>fart in their mouths, and he uh, the Feds released this.

1576
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:35.119
<v Speaker 2>The reason why this came out, somebody leads into the tabloys,

1577
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:35.279
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1578
01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 7>What I mean, So like, oh my god, nobody gets

1579
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:40.479
<v Speaker 7>out of this taco bell without farting in my mouth.

1580
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1581
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:49.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, But he'd already been a convicted you know, child

1582
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:52.199
<v Speaker 6>saxophone in remain act decades prior when he got busted

1583
01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:57.039
<v Speaker 6>for filming women in bathroom toilets. That of restaurants he owned. O,

1584
01:24:57.399 --> 01:25:02.600
<v Speaker 6>my god, Taco Bell Barry, Yeah right, Taco Bell all places.

1585
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:05.560
<v Speaker 4>JJ. This might be the picture. I'm gonna throw it

1586
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:06.279
<v Speaker 4>up on the screens.

1587
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got it.

1588
01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:08.840
<v Speaker 4>I was looking for this is it?

1589
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:12.880
<v Speaker 2>That's it? Eight year old Donald Trump.

1590
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:18.920
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, it's just like and uh you know

1591
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:21.159
<v Speaker 7>they'd got they dressed him up as a girl too.

1592
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:22.479
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

1593
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:26.079
<v Speaker 2>So, according according to this article about that party right there,

1594
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Trump has just hired Roy Cone to be his attorneys.

1595
01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:34.079
<v Speaker 6>Well that again, that's you probably do that in the

1596
01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:35.760
<v Speaker 6>in the coat room before you can get into the

1597
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:39.840
<v Speaker 6>actual place. The crowd from my recent voice series was

1598
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:42.319
<v Speaker 6>their thirty two year old developer of the Commodore Hotel

1599
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:45.159
<v Speaker 6>and the Convention Center, Donald Trump. So he had just

1600
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.199
<v Speaker 6>right prior to this photograph, he had just hired Roy

1601
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:50.840
<v Speaker 6>Cone as his attorney. But he'd known Roy for about

1602
01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:52.239
<v Speaker 6>six years, about five years.

1603
01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.279
<v Speaker 7>That's how that's why he knew to show up to

1604
01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:57.680
<v Speaker 7>the party in full drag.

1605
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Some folks, if you have some folks, there's some folks

1606
01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>in the Son of Sam community.

1607
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:04.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm not one of them, but there's there are some

1608
01:26:04.319 --> 01:26:06.039
<v Speaker 6>folks in the Son of Sam community that think one

1609
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.439
<v Speaker 6>of the sketches of these shooters looks a lot.

1610
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Like Donald Trump. Oh, it would have been about twenty

1611
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:13.399
<v Speaker 2>six at the time.

1612
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Woww yes, yes, you know. My somebody in my family

1613
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.560
<v Speaker 7>the other day they sent me this hoodie. They were like,

1614
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:23.760
<v Speaker 7>oh my god, I gotta get this. And it was

1615
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:26.279
<v Speaker 7>a picture of Donald Trump in front of the White

1616
01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:29.000
<v Speaker 7>House and it said Daddy's Home. And I was like,

1617
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:32.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm just gonna kill myself if I see another thing

1618
01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:35.079
<v Speaker 7>like this. I mean, it's just so yeah, Daddy's home

1619
01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:40.199
<v Speaker 7>to suck Dixon the White House, you know, right, look

1620
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 7>at this stuff.

1621
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>At it.

1622
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.880
<v Speaker 7>He probably flirted in his mouth right after.

1623
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:51.000
<v Speaker 6>This picture mistaken, So he would have been twenty five

1624
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:52.399
<v Speaker 6>at the time of this sketch.

1625
01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Right here, I believe.

1626
01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Trump was yelling, drill, baby, drill.

1627
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Here, here's the here's the son of Sam sketch. Shooter

1628
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>sketch looks.

1629
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:09.520
<v Speaker 6>A lot like Donald Trump, with or without drag. This

1630
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:10.960
<v Speaker 6>would have been a couple of years pre drag. This

1631
01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:12.640
<v Speaker 6>has been seventy six. That was seventy nine.

1632
01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:17.359
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, look at that. It looks like freaking

1633
01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:22.199
<v Speaker 7>what's his son's name, Baron, Baron. Look at that picture.

1634
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 7>That's the young you know young right there.

1635
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.039
<v Speaker 6>I suppose the circumstantial argument could be made he did

1636
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:31.640
<v Speaker 6>know Roy Cohen, who Berkowitz claimed was a member of

1637
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:33.720
<v Speaker 6>the process. But now I have never seen anything that

1638
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:35.680
<v Speaker 6>claim burkowitzknew Donald Trump or claimed he was one of

1639
01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:38.279
<v Speaker 6>the shooters. He's identified all of these shooters as somebody else.

1640
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:40.439
<v Speaker 6>But there is you know, there is this sketch that

1641
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:42.439
<v Speaker 6>people like this. You know, hey, why does this look

1642
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:42.800
<v Speaker 6>like him?

1643
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Why?

1644
01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:50.760
<v Speaker 7>Literally, why does it look like him? Damn, that is

1645
01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:53.079
<v Speaker 7>got to be him. I don't care what anybody says.

1646
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:56.439
<v Speaker 7>That looks just like if you sell like, because I've

1647
01:27:56.520 --> 01:27:59.920
<v Speaker 7>studied the zodiac and they have like the zodiac, compile

1648
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.960
<v Speaker 7>it sketch and every single person they try to put

1649
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 7>next to it and say, oh, this was the zodiac,

1650
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:07.720
<v Speaker 7>this was the Zodiac. I'm like, dude, that looks nothing

1651
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:11.680
<v Speaker 7>like the composite sketch. I would know that Trump without

1652
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:14.800
<v Speaker 7>even seeing the side by side like that looks uncay

1653
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:15.560
<v Speaker 7>and he as fun you.

1654
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Know, it's funny. The hair even fits him. Today's still

1655
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>the wow, it's like very sometimes stick on one side

1656
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:22.279
<v Speaker 4>and the weird eyebrow.

1657
01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:24.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture of them at

1658
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:26.399
<v Speaker 6>that time. I can't find a picture by the age

1659
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:28.319
<v Speaker 6>of twenty five or twenty six, like.

1660
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:30.600
<v Speaker 7>One of them sticks up way more than the other one.

1661
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:43.680
<v Speaker 7>That's crazy, dead dead river for real, for real? Yes,

1662
01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:47.000
<v Speaker 7>oh thank you.

1663
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it does. It does have bear resemblance.

1664
01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>There's no question.

1665
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:57.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you just blew my entire mind because I've

1666
01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:01.560
<v Speaker 5>talked about Roy Roy Kane for the last like year now,

1667
01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:05.039
<v Speaker 5>since I read the pet the I covered it in

1668
01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:08.000
<v Speaker 5>the Pedophocracy series, but since I read Program to Kill

1669
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:12.000
<v Speaker 5>and I found out about him and his connection to Trump,

1670
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:13.640
<v Speaker 5>I've been talking about him, and I'm.

1671
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:16.079
<v Speaker 7>Like, people need a lookit into this guy because he's

1672
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:20.000
<v Speaker 7>fucked up. But I didn't note to the to the

1673
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:24.039
<v Speaker 7>degree cross dressing and shit like that son of Sam

1674
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:25.239
<v Speaker 7>process Church.

1675
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:28.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I don't think. I don't think Donald

1676
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Trump knew Tuesday well, but he definitely knew her. Cousin

1677
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:31.479
<v Speaker 6>Bill Weld.

1678
01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:36.319
<v Speaker 7>Mmm, you know the politicians crazy?

1679
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I wonder Bill Weld ran againstm Right in twenty sixteen.

1680
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:43.079
<v Speaker 6>Right he was, He was the Libertarian Party's VP against

1681
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.720
<v Speaker 6>Trump a twenty sixteen Bill Weld, can.

1682
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:47.800
<v Speaker 7>You find a recent picture of her? I feel like

1683
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:49.800
<v Speaker 7>that would be a good way to sum everything up.

1684
01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:51.399
<v Speaker 7>I just wonder what she lives like now.

1685
01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:57.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she's actually aged decently, you know, as far as

1686
01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, comparison to like you were saying, Marilyn Monroeane Mansfield,

1687
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:01.239
<v Speaker 6>I guess right.

1688
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, who died very ritualistically.

1689
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:10.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield knew the under sad cult people,

1690
01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:11.399
<v Speaker 6>damn it.

1691
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:13.000
<v Speaker 7>She was also on the.

1692
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Westchester Politician, Westchester County Politician.

1693
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:18.680
<v Speaker 7>That's nuts.

1694
01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>She was on She's Buried there.

1695
01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:27.680
<v Speaker 7>The album cover for Magical Mystery Tour. Okay, you know

1696
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:33.880
<v Speaker 7>the Beatles cover that's got like all different Sergeant Peppers, sorry,

1697
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:38.640
<v Speaker 7>Sergeant Peppers. She's right there, and she's commonly mistaken to

1698
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:41.279
<v Speaker 7>be Marilyn Monroe. But it's Jane Jane Mansfield.

1699
01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.560
<v Speaker 6>Okay, I know what you're talking about. That's Jane Mansfield,

1700
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:48.560
<v Speaker 6>not Marilyn Monroe. I wonder if you like Tuesday Weld

1701
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:49.279
<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty.

1702
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you picked apart all those people, if

1703
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:53.279
<v Speaker 4>you'd see some sort of commonality between all.

1704
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:56.039
<v Speaker 7>You should pull it up, because actually I have one.

1705
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:00.800
<v Speaker 7>I was is that her right there?

1706
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>That's supposedly her in twenty twenty she don't look terrible. No,

1707
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying.

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01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:09.079
<v Speaker 6>She doesn't look you know, she's got her hair, you

1709
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:11.359
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean, seems maybe have her teeth still,

1710
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:11.720
<v Speaker 6>you know.

1711
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:14.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it looks like her skin is pretty smooth, probably

1712
01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:15.479
<v Speaker 7>from all the Yeah.

1713
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:17.439
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't. She doesn't look too much like a demon dushy.

1714
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she probably got baby Dick's skin injected into her

1715
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:29.960
<v Speaker 7>face or whatever they do baby scrot the blood. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1716
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:33.439
<v Speaker 7>all like creams and ointments. They reb on each other's

1717
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:39.399
<v Speaker 7>bee holes, right, But yeah, no, Nick, pull up that

1718
01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:43.119
<v Speaker 7>cover because I actually I feel like this is the

1719
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:46.119
<v Speaker 7>cover that people talk about was like one of the

1720
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:50.800
<v Speaker 7>major signals that the old Paul had died and was

1721
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:53.479
<v Speaker 7>replaced by the new Paul. And if you really look

1722
01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.720
<v Speaker 7>at it, there are so many things in there, even

1723
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.800
<v Speaker 7>beside Jane's Jane Mansfield, which she was killed in a

1724
01:31:59.840 --> 01:32:03.560
<v Speaker 7>car the same way that they say the old Paul

1725
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:11.000
<v Speaker 7>was killed in a car wreck. Sure, so right, I

1726
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:13.640
<v Speaker 7>do feel like that's significant because if you were going

1727
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:16.479
<v Speaker 7>to put somebody on there and everybody mistakes it as

1728
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:19.640
<v Speaker 7>being Marilyn Monroe, but it's like they both the old

1729
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:25.199
<v Speaker 7>Paul supposedly and Jane Mansfield died in like horrific car accidents.

1730
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's definitely, that's definitely a different Paul. There's no

1731
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>way that's the same Paul.

1732
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:37.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, to me, it's not. If you look. If you look,

1733
01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:42.000
<v Speaker 7>it's like the new Beatles are burying the dead. See

1734
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:44.279
<v Speaker 7>if you look at the original Beatles, it's like they're

1735
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:47.119
<v Speaker 7>all sad and they're mourning and they're looking at the grave.

1736
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:51.680
<v Speaker 7>And then it's like a super tall Paul in blue

1737
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:54.520
<v Speaker 7>that's way taller than the Paul over here, because he

1738
01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:57.479
<v Speaker 7>was supposedly like six inches taller than the old Paul.

1739
01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:03.159
<v Speaker 7>And they definitely you can see that. And then they

1740
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:07.279
<v Speaker 7>have right over there Jane Mansfield front and uh, she's

1741
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:11.399
<v Speaker 7>right in the very front row, commonly mistaken for Marilyn

1742
01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:16.039
<v Speaker 7>Monroe in the gold dress. There's also I think Edgar

1743
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:23.039
<v Speaker 7>Allan Poe he died weird. Uh, there's Alistair Crowley in

1744
01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:29.479
<v Speaker 7>the back, Carl Marks yep, if you I don't know, so,

1745
01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:33.960
<v Speaker 7>I guess it would be my top left. You can

1746
01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:40.000
<v Speaker 7>see Alistair Crowley right. There isn't Hitler in here somewhere too.

1747
01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:40.760
<v Speaker 7>I feel like.

1748
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Marlon Brando mm hmmm.

1749
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:48.720
<v Speaker 7>I mean Marylyn Marilyn Monroe is in there. She's in

1750
01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:55.279
<v Speaker 7>black and white. Yeah, but she's not the center of attention,

1751
01:33:55.439 --> 01:34:00.680
<v Speaker 7>not like Jane over here. And they're standing out a grave,

1752
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:04.960
<v Speaker 7>which I've always thought was significant, Like why are they

1753
01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:08.960
<v Speaker 7>standing at a grave with the old Beetles like sad

1754
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:15.159
<v Speaker 7>and crying and shit? Right, I just I don't know.

1755
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.399
<v Speaker 7>There's something about the little girl in the chair too,

1756
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:24.399
<v Speaker 7>with the red and white striped shirt on right there. Yeah, yeah,

1757
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:26.800
<v Speaker 7>there's something about that too. Oh, I wish I could

1758
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:28.840
<v Speaker 7>go back. I did an episode on it, and there

1759
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:33.199
<v Speaker 7>there's something it looks like it's got like it's like

1760
01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:37.039
<v Speaker 7>a blood welcome the Rolling Stones and it looks like

1761
01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:39.279
<v Speaker 7>it's like splattered with blood.

1762
01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:43.039
<v Speaker 4>Creepy, Yeah, like on the armor actually does something like that.

1763
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:47.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So there's something about that too. It was like

1764
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:52.880
<v Speaker 7>the transitioning between the Old Beetles and the New Beetles

1765
01:34:53.279 --> 01:34:56.760
<v Speaker 7>and the Rolling Stones something like that. It was around

1766
01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:01.600
<v Speaker 7>like the same time. I can't remember when they replaced Paul.

1767
01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:05.159
<v Speaker 2>But it was right before this sixty six.

1768
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:08.840
<v Speaker 6>This is sixty seven mm hmmm, twenty years ago today

1769
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 6>Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play.

1770
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Is often assumed they're talking about Crowley. He died, so.

1771
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.520
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I mean I think this is one of

1772
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:21.880
<v Speaker 7>those rabbit holes you can go down because it's just

1773
01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:25.079
<v Speaker 7>such a hodgepodge of like weird stuff and like why

1774
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:27.800
<v Speaker 7>why put it together in that way?

1775
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, their process, I mean you're doing, yeah, weird process stuff.

1776
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Well that's where that's where John matt Yoko was it

1777
01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the Process? Mayfair? Yeah, it was.

1778
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 6>It was owned by Paul McCarty, the original Paul's girlfriend's brother,

1779
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:48.119
<v Speaker 6>Jane Asher, was his girlfriend. Peter Asher, major major music

1780
01:35:48.199 --> 01:35:51.239
<v Speaker 6>producer guy in Hollywood till this till this day. I

1781
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:53.000
<v Speaker 6>think he's associated with the p DDY stuff. I'm not

1782
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:56.479
<v Speaker 6>mistaken that he was a member of the Process and

1783
01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:58.600
<v Speaker 6>he owned the coffee shop and headquarters over there in

1784
01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:02.640
<v Speaker 6>the Mayfair district. Their first cousin, Jane and Peter Asher's

1785
01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:05.640
<v Speaker 6>first cousin, lives in canab Utah today.

1786
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:07.359
<v Speaker 2>She's an og member of the Process.

1787
01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:10.199
<v Speaker 7>So do you know if the guy who shot John

1788
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:11.239
<v Speaker 7>Lennon was Process?

1789
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Because we were just talking about that.

1790
01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:17.439
<v Speaker 6>Actually, we were just talking about that Friday night, weren't we, Nick, Yeah,

1791
01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:19.640
<v Speaker 6>we were on our Friday night show. We were talking

1792
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.600
<v Speaker 6>why do we start tall because our guest was talking

1793
01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:25.920
<v Speaker 6>about the jfk assassination in Lenin Van's and I was like,

1794
01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.039
<v Speaker 6>I know a Lenin Van and there's a guy that

1795
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:31.199
<v Speaker 6>drives around America claiming that Stephen King murdered John Lennon.

1796
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:35.039
<v Speaker 2>But we started talking about the process and everything else. Really,

1797
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>are you know from air Stephen King murder John Lennon.

1798
01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:42.760
<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't put it past him, right because I know

1799
01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:46.199
<v Speaker 7>that the guy that they blamed it on, Mark David

1800
01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:50.119
<v Speaker 7>Wasn't that his name? Chapman Chapman Yep, he was a

1801
01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:54.439
<v Speaker 7>good friend of Kenneth Anger. Yeah.

1802
01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:57.560
<v Speaker 2>He had some connections right to scientology too, I believe right.

1803
01:36:57.720 --> 01:36:59.880
<v Speaker 7>So I just wondered if the process came in and

1804
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:00.880
<v Speaker 7>anywhere with that.

1805
01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:01.840
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting.

1806
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:04.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna look more into it. I mean, it happened

1807
01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to Dakota Building.

1808
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:08.399
<v Speaker 6>That's where Bob Cocaine Evans and Roman Polanski film There's

1809
01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:14.039
<v Speaker 6>Satanist Ship. Show of the film Rosemary Baby was supposed

1810
01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:16.079
<v Speaker 6>to start Tuesday. Well until she turned it down.

1811
01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:19.239
<v Speaker 7>I was gonna say, you go, there's the tie back.

1812
01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:24.199
<v Speaker 7>It was supposed to be Tuesday. The High Priestess Witch

1813
01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:26.640
<v Speaker 7>herself no I'm.

1814
01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:28.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's more to the lend murder there with

1815
01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the process, for sure, quite.

1816
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:34.880
<v Speaker 7>Positive, who fucking even knows, But yeah, I think this

1817
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:37.920
<v Speaker 7>is a really great place for people to, like, if

1818
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:41.560
<v Speaker 7>they've never looked into her, or if they're this this

1819
01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:43.800
<v Speaker 7>is like the first time they're ever hearing about her,

1820
01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:47.359
<v Speaker 7>to go and just look at her Wikipedia, because there's

1821
01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:49.439
<v Speaker 7>you know, if you start at the top and you

1822
01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:51.640
<v Speaker 7>just go all the way down, there's so many things

1823
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:54.159
<v Speaker 7>in there you just would not believe like she's connected

1824
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:57.640
<v Speaker 7>to or that she people, that she knew, the circles

1825
01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:02.920
<v Speaker 7>she traveled in. And some people have even speculated that

1826
01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:07.119
<v Speaker 7>that plane crash with Buddy Hawley and the Big Bopper

1827
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:12.000
<v Speaker 7>and Richie Allen's was like the sacrifice that ascended Tuesday

1828
01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:14.319
<v Speaker 7>into the counterculture movement.

1829
01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you

1830
01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>date music, right, Yeah, yeah, by dominic Queen right, Hi, Yes?

1831
01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:27.000
<v Speaker 6>Would you believe that domin Clean's forefather is first of all,

1832
01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.840
<v Speaker 6>domin Lean's a member of the Society of Cincinnati.

1833
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>His forefather wasn't well a potential member. His forefather was

1834
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:32.359
<v Speaker 2>a member.

1835
01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:36.079
<v Speaker 6>His paternal forefather and his paternal forefather most certainly knew

1836
01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:38.279
<v Speaker 6>Eliza Weld, Colonel.

1837
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Eliza Weld there and they served together.

1838
01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:43.600
<v Speaker 7>So maybe maybe that's what the connection is though, because

1839
01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:44.439
<v Speaker 7>they say that's.

1840
01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>What it was.

1841
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:47.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was like there were there rumored to be

1842
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.479
<v Speaker 6>dating right, Weld and MacLean, Right, and that's what he

1843
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:54.560
<v Speaker 6>writes that song about the tribute to the power well

1844
01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:56.680
<v Speaker 6>the whold their families have history together.

1845
01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:00.720
<v Speaker 7>Holy ship, because I never I never what the tie

1846
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:03.600
<v Speaker 7>was because they said, you know that plane crash, it

1847
01:39:03.760 --> 01:39:07.279
<v Speaker 7>was the sacrifice for Tuesday, and then she was supposed

1848
01:39:07.279 --> 01:39:12.399
<v Speaker 7>to like ascend into whatever, and then the the American

1849
01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:15.479
<v Speaker 7>Pie song was supposed to be about that and about.

1850
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:17.800
<v Speaker 6>And then oh my god, do you know the source

1851
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:22.279
<v Speaker 6>of that sale you just described No, Jeffrey Dean Turner

1852
01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:27.720
<v Speaker 6>the autistic man in the Kitchen to sing to say California. Yeah,

1853
01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:34.840
<v Speaker 6>that was from the Rightley series. Oh my god, that's

1854
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:36.960
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying. The dude's onto something, right, He's got

1855
01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:38.840
<v Speaker 6>you make some good points. He makes some good points.

1856
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:41.560
<v Speaker 7>I want to meet the fucker. I want to mind

1857
01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:41.960
<v Speaker 7>my show.

1858
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.359
<v Speaker 2>He's still alive. You could probably should probably contact him.

1859
01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:49.439
<v Speaker 6>But that song is definitely about that song is definitely

1860
01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:51.920
<v Speaker 6>about a ritual. I mean the last the last the

1861
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:55.079
<v Speaker 6>entire last verse is all about is it mentioned Satan twice?

1862
01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:56.479
<v Speaker 6>The tanic rituals? Everything else?

1863
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:57.439
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm.

1864
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.600
<v Speaker 7>One of my favorite songs too, is crazy you know,

1865
01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:03.560
<v Speaker 7>you know when you the first time you hear it,

1866
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:05.439
<v Speaker 7>Like I was a kid the first time I heard it,

1867
01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:07.680
<v Speaker 7>and you just sing it, you know, and passing because

1868
01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:10.520
<v Speaker 7>it's catchy, but it means something totally different to me

1869
01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:15.399
<v Speaker 7>as an adult. Yeah, I mean. And by the way,

1870
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:18.000
<v Speaker 7>if I was to ever get in contact with this

1871
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.800
<v Speaker 7>autistic guy, I would not want to interview him alone.

1872
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:22.359
<v Speaker 7>I would definitely need back.

1873
01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>We know, if you get ahold of him several people

1874
01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you get ahold of the moment, I'll come. I'll come

1875
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>question the man. I'll talk and autism with the guy.

1876
01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:30.439
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1877
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:35.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you are not autistic, are you?

1878
01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:38.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't I've ever been tested. My son is extremely

1879
01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:40.520
<v Speaker 6>He's definitely autistic.

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01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:42.439
<v Speaker 2>But you know that.

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01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:47.960
<v Speaker 7>I've mentioned to Colby before because like we've done shows together,

1882
01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:50.760
<v Speaker 7>and I'll be like, the way JJ can recall information,

1883
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:54.079
<v Speaker 7>you know, maybe you are autistic. I don't know, dude,

1884
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:56.840
<v Speaker 7>Like I can't remember ship the way you can.

1885
01:40:57.800 --> 01:41:00.760
<v Speaker 6>My son's got me. My son's got me beat you know,

1886
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.880
<v Speaker 6>he's a he was diagnosed, so they never sent me

1887
01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:05.479
<v Speaker 6>to a doctor. I'm just saying, like he and I

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01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:06.760
<v Speaker 6>operate on the same wavelength.

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01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:09.800
<v Speaker 7>No for sure, Like I have to have notes. I

1890
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:12.680
<v Speaker 7>have to you know, go back because I'll forget shit

1891
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:14.720
<v Speaker 7>and like be trying to go off my memory and

1892
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:17.239
<v Speaker 7>I can't remember shit. But some of the stuff that

1893
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 7>you bring up, I'm like, how the fuck does he

1894
01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:23.119
<v Speaker 7>remember all this? It's like verbatim quotes and like places

1895
01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:24.720
<v Speaker 7>and like stuff in history.

1896
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:28.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we'll do some autism and autism with the

1897
01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Den Turner sometime.

1898
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:35.199
<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah,

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01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:39.119
<v Speaker 7>you have to be there, But no, thanks for having

1900
01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:40.840
<v Speaker 7>me on though, you guys. I think this was a

1901
01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:41.920
<v Speaker 7>really cool episode.

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01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, definitely, No, for sure.

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01:41:45.239 --> 01:41:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time. I got one question before you, Julia.

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01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:50.960
<v Speaker 6>So you know, not necessarily a Laurel Canyon, you know band,

1905
01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:54.079
<v Speaker 6>but obviously not really Hollywood band either, for you know

1906
01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:56.640
<v Speaker 6>la scene at all. Really, but Leonard Skinners they saying

1907
01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Tuesday's Gone in nineteen seventy three and they're playing crack

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01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:01.279
<v Speaker 6>she is in nineteen seventy seven.

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01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:02.479
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on?

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01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, what?

1911
01:42:07.399 --> 01:42:10.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I totally forgot about that.

1912
01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, family my favorite band.

1913
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:15.039
<v Speaker 2>That's my favorite band. I can't forget.

1914
01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:18.439
<v Speaker 7>I love Skinnard. Oh my god, it's like one of

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01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:19.359
<v Speaker 7>my favees.

1916
01:42:20.439 --> 01:42:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Geez.

1917
01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:22.319
<v Speaker 2>August nineteen seventy three.

1918
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:26.159
<v Speaker 6>The jam Tuesday's gone August nineteen seventy seven, most of

1919
01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:27.000
<v Speaker 6>the band was gone.

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01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Well excellent.

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01:42:29.439 --> 01:42:34.600
<v Speaker 7>If anybody's told my well, I think I've actually talked

1922
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:36.680
<v Speaker 7>to Dick about this before. But if anybody's followed my

1923
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:39.640
<v Speaker 7>show for a while, they know that I've put together

1924
01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:42.399
<v Speaker 7>all these like weird things that happen in August or

1925
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:46.640
<v Speaker 7>around eights and stuff like Marilyn Monroe died in August.

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01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:51.680
<v Speaker 7>Tuesday Weld was born in August. Apparently they came out

1927
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:54.199
<v Speaker 7>with this song in August and then died what August

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01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:54.920
<v Speaker 7>the next year.

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01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:01.960
<v Speaker 6>October seventy seven is when Skinner October, which it claimed

1930
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:02.800
<v Speaker 6>most of the band.

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01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I think all but three three members. I think we're

1932
01:43:05.359 --> 01:43:06.760
<v Speaker 2>all well killed there.

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01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:09.439
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, dude, I mean I think it's weird. Did the song?

1934
01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:11.319
<v Speaker 7>Did you say the song came out in August?

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01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, August the seventy three, I believe it was.

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01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:18.560
<v Speaker 7>Okay, Yeah, so, I mean there's just we have this August.

1937
01:43:18.319 --> 01:43:21.439
<v Speaker 6>August thirteenth, that was August ninth. Was August the ninth

1938
01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:24.119
<v Speaker 6>of the the tenth, tenth, and eleventh, I think were

1939
01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:25.079
<v Speaker 6>the Manson murders, right, is that?

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01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Is that right? August tenth and eleventh.

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01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:31.960
<v Speaker 7>It's always August nineteen sixty nine. Hmm, it's always August.

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01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:36.640
<v Speaker 7>If people look and they see, like if you even

1943
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:40.359
<v Speaker 7>google like tragedies that happened in August, celebrities that died

1944
01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:43.640
<v Speaker 7>in August, it's like it's astounding the amount of stuff

1945
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:47.880
<v Speaker 7>that that has went down that seems super ritualistic to

1946
01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:52.159
<v Speaker 7>me in August, Like when did when did Buddy When

1947
01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:54.720
<v Speaker 7>did the Buddy Holly plane go down? Was that August? No?

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01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that was February.

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01:43:57.279 --> 01:44:04.479
<v Speaker 7>February, Okay, I had a whole list of these August things.

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01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:06.600
<v Speaker 7>I wish I had that list still so I could

1951
01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:07.600
<v Speaker 7>tell you some of the stuff.

1952
01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:10.319
<v Speaker 6>But oh, there's a lot of zodiac stuff popping off

1953
01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:14.000
<v Speaker 6>along with Man's and stuff right in August that same year, right, Yeah.

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01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:17.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think John Bennet was born in August you know,

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01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.000
<v Speaker 7>just the more you look for it, you'll find it.

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01:44:21.399 --> 01:44:23.840
<v Speaker 7>And it used to not be significant in me, but

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01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:26.239
<v Speaker 7>then the more I started looking into it, it's like, oh,

1958
01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:30.199
<v Speaker 7>another August, another August, another August, and so it's kind

1959
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:30.960
<v Speaker 7>of mean something.

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01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.199
<v Speaker 6>Given these cult folks we're talking about in their affinity

1961
01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:37.640
<v Speaker 6>for the Star Sirius, this ancient alien cargo cult systems

1962
01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:39.640
<v Speaker 6>these people all subscribe to and their affinity for the

1963
01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:41.399
<v Speaker 6>Star system serious or dog Star?

1964
01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Is this going on during the dog days of summer?

1965
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>What you're describing it sounds like it is.

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01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:50.079
<v Speaker 7>It is, Yeah, because I wanted to look further into it.

1967
01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:52.159
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to tangent too hard, but you know

1968
01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:56.800
<v Speaker 7>Santos Binacci right in his Holy Science and you know

1969
01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:58.840
<v Speaker 7>the zodiacting, and it does.

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01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not familiar with this guy mix.

1971
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:02.560
<v Speaker 7>He's a cool guy.

1972
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:04.880
<v Speaker 4>It actually follows me on Instagram. I was like, what

1973
01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:05.239
<v Speaker 4>the fuck.

1974
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's a bigger he has.

1975
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:12.760
<v Speaker 4>I think he's done some great work. I just think

1976
01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:14.359
<v Speaker 4>he's getting a little old and a little fright out

1977
01:45:14.399 --> 01:45:15.279
<v Speaker 4>at this point. That's all.

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01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:15.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:19.720
<v Speaker 7>I think he's done the same presentation so many times.

1980
01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:21.880
<v Speaker 7>He's he's kind of burned himself out on it, but

1981
01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:25.439
<v Speaker 7>the information is still really cool. And he talks about

1982
01:45:25.479 --> 01:45:29.399
<v Speaker 7>the Dog days, the serious dog days of summer, and

1983
01:45:29.520 --> 01:45:33.079
<v Speaker 7>he talks about significant things happening during that time because

1984
01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:35.600
<v Speaker 7>it's under the sign of Leo and the sun worship,

1985
01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:40.000
<v Speaker 7>and most of these cults and a lot of religions

1986
01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:43.920
<v Speaker 7>are based off of sun worship. I think Catholicism is

1987
01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:46.920
<v Speaker 7>one of the most guilty parties of sun worship. But

1988
01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:52.119
<v Speaker 7>you know, August is Leo, it's the it's the Sun,

1989
01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:56.720
<v Speaker 7>and it's also the dog days, the serious days, so

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01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:00.760
<v Speaker 7>it's literally like multiple things at one time during that

1991
01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:01.600
<v Speaker 7>part of the year.

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01:46:02.399 --> 01:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>So cargo cults love sirious, all of them.

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01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:08.880
<v Speaker 6>The more the process, all the Rosicrucians, the Masons, they

1994
01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:10.279
<v Speaker 6>all love serious. Yes.

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01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Uh.

1996
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:17.279
<v Speaker 7>The civilization that built go Beckley Tepe built it in

1997
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:22.880
<v Speaker 7>alignment with Serious. It's anciently old. The ancient civilization that

1998
01:46:23.079 --> 01:46:25.960
<v Speaker 7>built gig and Tea it's on Malta, they built it

1999
01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:29.680
<v Speaker 7>in alignment with the Star Serious. If you look at

2000
01:46:29.800 --> 01:46:34.600
<v Speaker 7>the Truman Show even there are several mentions to Serious

2001
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:40.520
<v Speaker 7>in the Truman Show with Jim Carrey and also Jim Carrey,

2002
01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:44.640
<v Speaker 7>the Mask it's a it's a story about Serious and Loki.

2003
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:49.720
<v Speaker 7>So I mean it's every if you look for the mask, yeah,

2004
01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:54.560
<v Speaker 7>the yeah, the folkal are behind the mask. The real

2005
01:46:54.720 --> 01:47:00.720
<v Speaker 7>mask is about Loki and uh dog star Sirius. So

2006
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:06.399
<v Speaker 7>if you look for it, serious symbology is everywhere. It

2007
01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:10.239
<v Speaker 7>is everywhere, and it's like.

2008
01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Plates are better than Serious. What does that mean?

2009
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:18.279
<v Speaker 6>But somebody says that, Well, I just wonder because that's

2010
01:47:18.319 --> 01:47:19.920
<v Speaker 6>who founded the town of Moscow, Idaho.

2011
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Was this Plates club?

2012
01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

2013
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they started the university.

2014
01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:29.079
<v Speaker 6>There was the wife of the first president and six

2015
01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:32.800
<v Speaker 6>wives of six administrators or teachers. They were seven sisters

2016
01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:36.239
<v Speaker 6>of Plates. There's Plates Club. That's seems to be some

2017
01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:38.079
<v Speaker 6>occult origins of that town. I just I don't know

2018
01:47:38.199 --> 01:47:40.079
<v Speaker 6>enough about Plates. I don't know enough about Stars.

2019
01:47:40.439 --> 01:47:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in him.

2020
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Nazi's describing to me, and so did kid Diddlers, and

2021
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:45.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't believe in anything either one of those.

2022
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.479
<v Speaker 7>Parties say, well, they seem to believe in it. That's

2023
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:50.279
<v Speaker 7>what I care about. I want to know why.

2024
01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to know why need something.

2025
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:53.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying I don't believe in what they're describing

2026
01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:56.279
<v Speaker 6>it as, right, Like I'm sure something right, Yeah, some

2027
01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:58.439
<v Speaker 6>kind of affecting there is.

2028
01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:01.800
<v Speaker 7>This is al you can look into JJ. It's called

2029
01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:07.319
<v Speaker 7>the the the Order of the Solar Temple. They were

2030
01:48:07.399 --> 01:48:11.560
<v Speaker 7>also I think they were dog stars, serious followers.

2031
01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:12.079
<v Speaker 2>You know.

2032
01:48:12.159 --> 01:48:14.840
<v Speaker 4>It's you know, it's funny. That just reminded me. No, Lie,

2033
01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:17.479
<v Speaker 4>I recorded part one of a two part series or

2034
01:48:17.520 --> 01:48:19.840
<v Speaker 4>that with Thrash and Mike probably eight months ago.

2035
01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:21.479
<v Speaker 7>And never came about the Solar Temple.

2036
01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we never got to part two yet. I totally forgot.

2037
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it's so yeah. Yeah, it is wild

2038
01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:31.319
<v Speaker 4>latantly cult. It's blatantly a cult. They didn't hide anything.

2039
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:35.239
<v Speaker 4>They burned places down, killed people. There was multiple suicides

2040
01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:37.079
<v Speaker 4>choreographed in different countries.

2041
01:48:38.159 --> 01:48:42.920
<v Speaker 7>In Switzerland and France. And they also took all of

2042
01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:48.439
<v Speaker 7>their inspiration from Alice Bailey, who was at the YEA. Yeah,

2043
01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.960
<v Speaker 7>to go back to theosophy, Alice Bailey with the New

2044
01:48:53.039 --> 01:48:54.640
<v Speaker 7>Age ideals.

2045
01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2046
01:48:55.279 --> 01:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I like the way.

2047
01:48:55.880 --> 01:49:00.640
<v Speaker 6>Wikipedia describes this cult variously described as a sooteric new

2048
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:04.279
<v Speaker 6>religious movement, a neo templar group, a rosa Crucian organization,

2049
01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:08.079
<v Speaker 6>a doomsday or suicide call, a new magical movement, a

2050
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:11.800
<v Speaker 6>magical esoteric religion or a secret society, among many other descriptors.

2051
01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:14.439
<v Speaker 2>These people there, they got a lot of skill sets,

2052
01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>are pretty prolific.

2053
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.439
<v Speaker 7>I like, I like this called dude JJ. Body count

2054
01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:19.680
<v Speaker 7>is seventy four.

2055
01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:20.399
<v Speaker 2>For this guy.

2056
01:49:22.039 --> 01:49:24.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, that's multiple countries I think are involved, like

2057
01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:27.199
<v Speaker 4>possibly yeah too, at least I think they.

2058
01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:31.800
<v Speaker 6>Jim Jones situation. These are independent activities of seventy four.

2059
01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:35.319
<v Speaker 7>They're independent and it spanned over three years of death.

2060
01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:38.840
<v Speaker 7>Good lord, Yes, you got to look into him. Man,

2061
01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:42.880
<v Speaker 7>They're they're fucking balls to the wall, nuts so crazy.

2062
01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:45.000
<v Speaker 6>Definitely will nix't been telling about him too, for sure.

2063
01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:48.039
<v Speaker 6>I'll definitely look into him, thank you. Yeah, so I

2064
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:51.239
<v Speaker 6>see the serious worship there too. Yeah, they're Yes, it's

2065
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:53.880
<v Speaker 6>always serious, it's always.

2066
01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:58.600
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, no, guys, this was a good one.

2067
01:49:58.800 --> 01:49:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure.

2068
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>That's what mind blowing to me.

2069
01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:05.199
<v Speaker 6>I've been looking forward to talking Tuesday Well and I

2070
01:50:05.239 --> 01:50:07.359
<v Speaker 6>appreciated Julia that I, you know, had an opportunity to

2071
01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:10.439
<v Speaker 6>share some Tuesday Well thoughts with you here today. Hell yeah,

2072
01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:12.079
<v Speaker 6>let me let me know if you get ahold of

2073
01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:13.479
<v Speaker 6>that autistic pill, I'll be happy to help.

2074
01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:16.880
<v Speaker 7>I will let I'll let you know if I get.

2075
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:18.920
<v Speaker 7>You know what, the most mind blowing part of this

2076
01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:22.840
<v Speaker 7>show for me was cross dressing Donald Trump.

2077
01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, there you go, God you that was a

2078
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:32.439
<v Speaker 2>hunter nightmares from now on. Cross dressing Trump on a leash.

2079
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:38.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's so crazy to me. David Burka WIT's in

2080
01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:39.800
<v Speaker 7>the background.

2081
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep, parting it up out all the place, just

2082
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:50.079
<v Speaker 4>each other.

2083
01:50:52.920 --> 01:50:54.159
<v Speaker 2>We don't know if he was there. We don't know

2084
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>if he's Oh.

2085
01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:56.560
<v Speaker 7>He was there, come on, and.

2086
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:01.760
<v Speaker 4>He's just pumping, oh yeah.

2087
01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:07.439
<v Speaker 6>Singing his number one hit, My Dangling. It's a real song.

2088
01:51:07.680 --> 01:51:09.800
<v Speaker 6>It's a real song. Was the number one hit for him?

2089
01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:15.199
<v Speaker 7>Oh god, no way. Maybe we should do Maybe we

2090
01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:17.079
<v Speaker 7>should do the next one on Chuck Berry.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you might actually find some decent stuff in that.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody gets tabloid articles.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, nobody gets out of touching my Dangling.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate your all's time today with the Tuesday Wells conversation,

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<v Speaker 6>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of the folks of the interwebs.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, you good, We're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta closing savements, you gotta closing thoughts there?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh no, not really no, I thought it was really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Like again, I feel bad I didn't have anything to add.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean it was just this just interesting, so

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<v Speaker 4>many different things that it connects to. I even like,

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<v Speaker 4>not to bring it back up, but even starting to follow.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I was thinking for a while at these plane crashes,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's even something like that's up like this, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>plane crashes. RFK have plane clashes to those guys who

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<v Speaker 4>are for La Bamba. I mean there's all these people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, why are we using planes? Alia shoul knocking

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<v Speaker 4>people off?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean I did a plane crash episode if

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<v Speaker 7>you guys want me to talk about it sometimes. But

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<v Speaker 7>Alia is a crazy one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I might actually be interested on that. That

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<v Speaker 4>was something you Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm hijacking the

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<v Speaker 4>show now, but real quick, I think it inspired me

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<v Speaker 4>to do this. I started. I did a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>shows where I covered the seventeenth of every month and

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<v Speaker 4>weird stuff that happened on that, And there was one

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<v Speaker 4>there was a few times where plane crashes were huge,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, OK, what is up with plane crashes

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<v Speaker 4>on the date of the seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 7>Cause it's an eight. That's the dog star. Yeah serious,

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<v Speaker 7>the infinity symbol.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, all right, I appreciate the Operation GCD take over again.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't gonna have this conversation, not on Occult Rejects

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<v Speaker 6>when when we're all with you know, when Julian Irony

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<v Speaker 6>Cult Rejects, we we spawned this whole show off of

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<v Speaker 6>last week's The Cult Elvis Show, which I can I

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<v Speaker 6>highly recommend folks check out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes next week, all right, next week, yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll wrap it up here and yo, the

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<v Speaker 4>chat was off the hook. Thank you everybody in the chat.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what's up. I tried to pay attention to throw

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<v Speaker 4>up a lot of your comments. Uh so, thank you

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<v Speaker 4>all again, and thank you Tyler. That's what's up. You're

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<v Speaker 4>the best. And that's the end of another Cult Rejects

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<v Speaker 4>until the next one. Dy do well.

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<v Speaker 3>Here Armaant went to a dance looking for him. Man

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<v Speaker 3>saw Barbara, So I thought I'd take a gang of

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara bom b.

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<v Speaker 4>B b bang.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be running in a roll and roping intera

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<v Speaker 3>Barba and.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Bob bom b boh bah.

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<v Speaker 1>Bah Bob Barbara bab Ba ba Ba Barbara Bob Barbaret.

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<v Speaker 7>You gotta be rocking in a roll and rocking in

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<v Speaker 7>aya

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<v Speaker 2>Barba and Bob Bob b
