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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast? Jason,

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how you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man? Holy crap? I think somebody just threw a beer

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bottle at me.

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Speaker 2: You want a pizza?

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Speaker 3: Me?

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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely You Can't Be

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Serious Podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten

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of eighties and nineties pop culture with your co hosts

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James D.

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Speaker 2: Graves and Jason Colliban.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we are back for our comparison of

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Doctor Feel Good versus skid Row. We covered Doctor Feel

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Good last week, and we are back with the debut

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album of skid Row titled skid Row. Very creative. Jason,

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you remember getting this album?

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I jumped in right after Youth Gune Wild.

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I had a friend make a mixtape this for me. Actually,

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when we when we listened to the tracks like one

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by one, yeah, I can tell you the exact spot

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where I ran out of time and needed to go home,

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and so he hit the stop button, uh huh and

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handed me the tape and so like for me for

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like six months. This album was seven and a half

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songs long.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, what about you? What do you remember

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about skid Row?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can remember slow dancing to I Remember You

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and seeing the videos, especially eighteen in Life on MTV,

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But it wasn't an album that I owned. So you

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were You're better off with seven and a half songs

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than I was at the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. This was a staple in

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my car, like this was, I mean, doctor feel Good,

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New Jersey, skid Row, you know, fifty one fifty pop

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one out, put one in, listen to the whole thing.

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I'm good to go. So I saw skid Row open

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for bon Jovi in nineteen eighty nine until Oklahoma with

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my entire high school. It was the biggest single event

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to come to tell Oklahoma in nineteen eighty nine. Right,

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so they open for bon Jovi, they put on a

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great show, and the argument at school the next day

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was who is better skid Row or bon Jovi? And

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bon Jovi at the time was, I mean, a giant

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among teenage music listeners at the time.

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Speaker 1: All right, so how about we jump in and start

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talking about the history of the band. Let's do it, Okay,

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our story begins in nineteen seventy one, when a young

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seven year old Dave Sabo says to a young seven

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year old John bon Jovi, I'm going to be a

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rock star someday. So they John bon Jovi and Dave

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the Snake Sabo make an agreement at seven years old

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that they are going to become rock stars, and they

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agree that if either one of them becomes famous before

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the other one, that that famous one will help the

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other one become famous.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I've heard this story as well. Right, this

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is a very interesting historical piece of skid row. I

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do think it's interesting that Dave Sabo, while he didn't

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play on bon Jovi's first album, he did tour with

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them a little bit as bon Jovi to support Runaway, Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before they brought Richie Sambora in, Dave was the guitarist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, these bands have been tied

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together since nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 1: So back in seventy one, whenever seven year old John

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bon Jovi and seven year old Dave Sabo are exchanging

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their promises to make each other famous. About this same time,

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the parents of a kid named Sebastian Burke are living

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in the Bahamas, and they hire a Bahama woman to

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come and babysit. They return home early to find this

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Bahama woman with two of her friends dancing around young

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Sebastian Burke's crib, speaking incantations and casting what appeared to

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be spells over the little baby.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wow. He would go on to change his name,

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of course, to Sebastian Bach, because why wouldn't you if

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it was that close, name yourself after one of the

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you know, the most famous composers of all time. But

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do you know where the name Sebastian came from.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not Sebastian the Crab.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not Sebastian the Crab. That was I mean,

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that was about the time this kid road the album

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came back. It wasn't that. No, So to see, the

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lead singer for The Love and Spoonful was a guy

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named John Sebastian. And as it turns out, Sebastian Bach's

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dad was a huge fan and somehow lucked into meeting

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John Sebastian at some point, and they went up to

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the top of a hill and smoked a dooby together,

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and he said, someday I'm gonna name my kid after you.

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And he held true to that promise.

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Speaker 2: Wow, how about that? That's cool? Yeah, great story. And

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. When Sebastian was a little bit older, about nineteen

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seventy five, he's walking with his dad down the boardwalk

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and they see something that grabs his attention as a

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little what seven six seven year old kid. It's these

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kind of scary, dark haired creatures with white faces and

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frightening visages on their face. And he says, dad, what

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is that? And his dad says, son, that's Kiss. And

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so from a very early age, Sebastian Bach becomes a

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huge Kiss fan, and unfortunately a few years later his

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parents decided to get a divorce. And it is it

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is the music of Kiss and his love for comic books,

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including Batman and the Incredible Hulk, that get him through

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that troubling time. And then a few years after their divorce,

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his dad shows back up. It's the first time and

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the last time their family will be together as one again,

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and it is to go and see a Kiss concert.

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music they're seeing all of these people around when they

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get to the concert area, who are of course dressed

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up like the demon and the cat and all of

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the others, and taking pictures with all of them. And

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when they get inside, their seats are in the nose

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plead sections, and Sebastian says, I don't even care. I'm

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just so happy that my family is together again. And

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then at this moment, after the intro show is over

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and they start doing the introduction for kiss and every

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all the lights go out, he suddenly is snatched up

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and someone is running with him, and he realizes it's

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his dad, And so at the moment that everybody's looking

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at the stage anticipating what's going to happen, his dad

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has grabbed him, jumped over the wall and runs all

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the way to the front row, puts Sebastian on his shoulders,

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and he gets to watch the entire his show from

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his dad's shoulders on the front row. And a rock

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star is born.

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Speaker 2: That is awesome. That is such a cool story man.

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Speaker 1: At some point, Ace freely throws a styrofoam cup that

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he drank some water or something in the into the

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crowd and Sebastian catches it and keeps it for years afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's cool. Have you ever caught anything at a

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concert like that?

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Speaker 1: No. I can remember going to a Smashing Pumpkins concert

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and we did the same thing. Like, we had friends

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who had front row tickets, and so we kind of

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swapped back and forth with them. And when we went

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must have been incredibly enticing to Billy Corrigan because he

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get something thrown to me. I guess something

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Speaker 2: Oh man.

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Speaker 1: So Sebastian had grown up with his mom saying all

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the time sang with her sisters, and he enjoyed saying

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since before he could remember any other memories. And they

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it was all very exciting. And then one day he

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was singing and one of his buddies is like, hey,

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uh okay, why, he goes, well, number one, because if

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Speaker 1: She's like, pay to sing? Yeah, sure, I'll do that, right,

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So he goes to the audition for the choir master

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who's out there paying its choir, and he's like, all right, Sebastian,

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let's work up up the piano scale. Let's see what

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your range is. And basically he just kept going up

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and up, and Sebastian kept matching every single note until

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he reached the end of the piano.

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Speaker 2: I remember this part in the book. And Sebastian said

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to the instructor, well, did I make the choir? And

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the instructor said, Sebastian, you are the choir. Sebastian has

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such a talent that it was instantly recognized by his

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Speaker 1: Right, there is no question about this guy's vocal abilities,

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all right. So third component of our band is a

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gentleman named Rachel Bolan. So Rachel's not his real name.

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His real name is James Richard Southworth, but he changed

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his name. Rachel is a combination of his brother's name

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Richard and his grandfather's name Manuel. I don't really know

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how you get Rachel out of that, but okay, yeah,

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Bolan is after the t Rex lead singer Mark Bolan. Okay, cool, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Gidro formed in nineteen eighty six and Tom's River, New Jersey,

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when guitarist Dave Sabo met bassist Rachel Bolan at the

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local guitar store that Dave Saba was working at.

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Speaker 1: Dave Sabo is working in a guitar store, right, and

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Rachel Bolan walks in with a pink leather coat and

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a red beret and and Dave Sabo says, I will

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never forget that moment. He looked like a freaking star.

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I just had to strike up a conversation and it

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worked out very well. They realized, hey, we need to

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get together, and so they started getting together. They started

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writing stuff together. They came from different backgrounds. Sabo had

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more Judas Priests and Iron Maiden influences, while Rachel's roots

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were in the Ramones, but they also had a common

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love for Van Halen.

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Speaker 2: And kiss nice, okay cool.

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Speaker 1: Dave Sabo and Rachel bowl and get together the writing

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music together. Rachel says, hey, I got another guy who

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can play guitar with us. His name is Scottie Hill.

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other guy who will be a perfect drummer. And then

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jail for stabbing somebody. Oh okay, well, then maybe we

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should go with Rabbi Fuso, who who was in a

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Rush tribute band. Now we're talking about a drummer in

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a Rush tribute band, right. I can't tell you the

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quality of the band, but if you're covering Rush songs

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as a drummer, you must be good. I mean you,

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you just have to be because Neil Pert it was

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like the godfather of all drumming. And to this day,

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Rabbifuso is the one guy who's still friends with all

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of the members of the band, but he's also said

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I will not play with skid Row again unless Sebastian

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Speaker 2: Okay. I wanted to touch just a little bit on.

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Canada and they ended up in Petersborough where they met

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a thirteen year old boy named Sebastian Bach. They were

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looking for a lead singer, and even though he was

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only thirteen years old and surrounded by twenty to thirty

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year olds, he laid out this rock and roll scream

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that they heard and said that kid, that's the one.

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We need him to be our lead singer. And they're like,

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he's thirteen years old. I don't care. He needs to

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be our lead singer. So his father would not let

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him go run around with his band, but he did

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agree to let Sebastian go live in Toronto with an

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aunt so that he could join the band and tour

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with the band.

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Speaker 1: I get the impression that Sebastian's dad was a pretty

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pretty cool guy. Maybe a little too cool, but a

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a full on sixties hippie, but he was an interesting cat. Yeah.

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Sebastian bot Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I really found this interesting because this guy named Matt

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Fallon was their original lead singer. He toured with skid

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Row while opening for bon Jovi on the Slippery When

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Wet tour. It's not like this guy can't sing or

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didn't have any chops at all. There's demos out there

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on that here in just a little bit.

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they're feeling. Skid Row is feeling like they're pretty tight

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at this point, and at this point bon Jovi is famous.

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So once you know, I mean, John had said, you know,

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I'm not I have not forgotten my promise at seven

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years old. I will stick to it. You guys just

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got to be tight before I'm gonna make him pitch,

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because I don't want it to fail. And they had

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gotten pretty tight with Matt Fallen, and so at that point,

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bon Jovi is having a little backyard barbecue and one

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of the attendees is his manager, a guy named Doc McGhee,

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who you might have heard of, and if you haven't,

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then I'll just tell you. He was the manager of

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like every major metal band in the eighties. I mean,

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we're talking what we get. We had, Skidro, Motley Crue,

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bon Jovi. I think he was managing Ozzie. I think

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he was managing the Scorpions he's got. You've heard of

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the Moscow Music Piece Festival. That was him, And albeit

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it was because he was in trouble with drugs and

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probably put this concert on as a way to help

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him get out of that trouble, but that that be

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that as it may he was a big hitter at

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the moment, right, he definitely was. And so Jon bon

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Jovi invites Dave Stabo to come over to his house

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for this backyard barbecue with Doc McGee, and so as

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soon as he gets him alone, Dave Sabo just starts

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giving him his whole pitch of how they're going to

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be a great band and they're going to take over

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the world and all of these songs that they got

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and they can't wait, and everybody's so driven in all

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of this, and he gives him the probably ten minute

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long spiel, at the end of which Doc McGee says,

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all right, you want to go get me a beer

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or something. But it worked out well. Skid Row starts

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opening up for bon Jovi, but Doc McGee says, you

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know what, your lead singer is not as driven as

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the rest of you guys. You need to get rid

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of him.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And so that's I mean, geez, that's huge. I mean,

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you're right there, you think, and it's all about to happen,

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and they say get rid of your front man. I mean,

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it's not like, you know, change out the bassists. This

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is the guy singing all the songs and this is

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the face of the band at the moment, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, and it's and they're touring with bon Jovi. They're

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on the Slibrity when we concert tour.

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Speaker 1: They they followed Doc McGee's advice. They got rid of

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Matt Fallon. They started auditioning other people and they couldn't

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find anybody. So they're auditioning singer after singer after singer,

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and they can't find anybody that they think is the

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right fit for the band until they get a call

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from John bon Jovi's parents. They had been to the

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wedding of a photographer named Mark Weiss, who there's a

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fantastic podcast out there done by Frank Hannon. He's recently

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done interview with Mark Wise. He's a photographer for all

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of the major bands that you and I love from

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the seventies and eighties, all the metal bands, but be

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Thatt as May. At some point he got married. John

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bon Jovi's parents went to the wedding, and in addition

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to them, a few other folks that you might have

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heard of, Zach Wilde, Kevin Dubrow of Quiet Riot, several

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of the members of Twisted Sister. All of these guys

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are there because hey, he's a heavy metal photographer, right,

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And they happen to have a wedding singer there who

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is blowing everybody's mind, a young guy named Sebastian Bach.

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Speaker 2: Wow, they heard Sebastian at a wedding, the wedding singer.

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Speaker 1: So they call up they call up the guys and

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they're like, hey, we think we got a guy who

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might be perfect for you. But he's only nineteen years old. What, okay, whatever, Yeah, okay,

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if he's that good, No, he's that good. So they

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pool their money. I mean they've they've got nothing, they've

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gotten no record contract, they've got nothing, right, they pooled

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their money together and they fly this guy out. So,

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I mean, just imagine this, all right, this is an

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unfamous nobody knows these guys. They're sitting in Dave Sabo's

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kitchen and they're just waiting because they're just anticipating with

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right right, right, and so they sent Scott Hill to

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go pick him up from the airport. They're all just

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waiting to see what's gonna happen there with them is

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Dave's mom, who they all affectionately referred to as Missus

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Snake is Snake, and they're just like, oh, this is

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We just want this to work. We just want this

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to work. And so in walks this guy who's so tall,

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he's got a duck under the doorway. As he walks

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in and in his Canadian accent with you know these

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beautiful high cheek bones, says, dudes, I've got a ten

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inch What a fantastic intro. How pet about the way

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the rest of that band's career was going to go? Right?

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So when they first had him sing, he literally he

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sang so high that they had to like go, okay, dude,

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that's just too high. I mean, you're gonna have to

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rein it back in a little bit. But once they did,

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it was like, uh, he's he's got the perfect voice.

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And then somebody else was like, yeah, but he's obnoxious

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and loud, and they said, yeah, but he's a front man, right,

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that's what that's the way they're supposed to be. So

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they decide, all right, that's what we'll do. And that

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night they went to a bar, they get they start

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drinking together. They know this is going to be a thing.

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They even sang eighteen in life that first night in

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some dive bar stage. Wow, terrible, But Rachel Bowen announces

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from the stage, this is our new lead singer. And

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then Sebastian Bach gets completely blitzed and almost gets in

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a fight, but he's so drunk he misses his punch

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by about a foot falls over to the floor. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that obnoxious and loud thing will only

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get magnified with fame and riches.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So, after they've got their lineup and they present

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themselves to bon Jovi, they sign with Richie Sambora and

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John bon Jovi's publishing company called Underground. But they don't

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realize at the time that they're all also giving up

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most of the royalties they get, which I mean that's

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all that a band has whenever they're making music, is

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the royalties. Not only do they not get the money

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that like their record producers are going to make, they

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give most of what they would be making over to

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John bon Jovi and Richie sambor As I understood it,

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Richie sambor ended up giving a lot of it back

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to him, but John bon Jovi, probably because of his

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relationship with Sebastian Bach said, f you, I'm keeping the money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. There's some interesting things that

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Sebastian said about John bon Jovi from the stage. I

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believe he called him John go blow me or something

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like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So they spend a year fine tuning

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their act. I mentioned this last time. At the point

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that Sebastian Bach joined the band, he was with VO

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five and they were opening for Motley Crue during the Girls,

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Girls Girls tour.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: He had told Nikki six, I'm going to be a

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rock star. And I don't know if you remember it,

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but about five years ago I kicked the door open

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so that we could get in.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there's one story that I wanted to tell that

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we kind of blew past. When they were first recruiting

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Sebastian Bach to come play for the band, one of

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the things that they did was they sent him a

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tape of their songs, most of the songs on this album.

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been playing it live, they had been touring with bon Jovi.

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I mean, they had these songs. These are great rock songs.

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Still needed a singer to put it over the top,

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but they sent the tape to him and when Sebastian listened,

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but the one song that stuck out to him was

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a song called Youth Gun Wild, and Sebastian's like, you

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know what, that's a song that I can do something with.

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He said, that was the song that made me join

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the band, which is so appropriate because it's such a

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great rock anthem. It's their first single, it's what put

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him on the map. But that's the song that recruited

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Sebastian to the band.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. So Rachel Bolin and Dave Sabo wrote almost

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all of the songs on this debut album. They end

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up hooking up with a guy to produce the album

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named Michael Wagner. He's worked with Motley Crue, with Great White,

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with Striper Poison, Alice Cooper, Extreme Mega Death, and the

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one that he produced right before this album was Saigon

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Kick by Sigon Kick. And I owned that album and

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I probably haven't thought about that band for that album

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in about thirty five years. I was just like, what,

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Speaker 2: Even that song. Love is on the Way has got

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album right.

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Speaker 1: That's why I bought the tape.

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Speaker 2: You ready to dive into the track listing?

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Speaker 1: D Yeah, I'm ready. Let's jump into the album.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: The first song on the album.

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Speaker 3: Is Big gun.

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Speaker 1: Man. When he comes in with those lyrics, you're listening

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to this album for the first time and you're just like,

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holy crap, and he's not even done anything awesome yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Vocally, the first two songs on the album,

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he stays pretty just straight line rock voice. So this song,

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this song comes on strong, right. It's a good leadoff

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track for the album. Good rocker. Big Guns Blowing Me Away.

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This is clearly about breasts Christ's rest.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: She's got big guns pointed at my heart. Uh huh,

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bang bang shoot me like a firing squad, big guns.

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She blew me away and I went down in flames.

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Speaker 1: Well, but see she was she was just a ballerina

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on a subway train, stiletto hills in a candy cane.

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Now I'm wondering if maybe this was a lady of

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the night, as they like to say, hot on the

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tail of a social call. There's only really one thing

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that could possibly mean. So there were you like.

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Speaker 2: Is a battle and love is war? Yeah, there's a

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part in this song where he says, I'm doing time

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as a backseat Romeo play solitaire with my hands in

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the air another night and no bullets to spare. That's

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my favorite part of the whole song right there.

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Speaker 1: And what do you think that means, Jason?

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Speaker 2: I think she's got big guns and they're pointed out

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your heart.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not at the moment that he's playing solitaire, though.

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Speaker 2: When I went to the concert in nineteen eighty nine

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when they opened for bon Jovi, this was on the

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concert t shirts, right it said it had a girl

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and a big like a six shooter, and it said

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big guns.

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Speaker 1: So this one, I mean, it's a great song. It's

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a good album beginning song, a good pumping song that

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had better ones on the album. Why do you think

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they started with this one?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I like it. It has a lot

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of energy. It starts off with attitude. You know, it's

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a good he wrote song. This was the song that

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they closed their set list with during that bon Jovi

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New Jersey tour.

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Speaker 1: So this is the only song on the album that

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lists Scottie Hill, Rachel Bowl and Dave Sabo and Rob

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Afuso on it. Most of them are just by Bolin

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or Bolin and Sabo. This is the only one that

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has all of the members of the band except for

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Sebastian Mott.

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Speaker 2: I like this one.

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Speaker 1: This is a good one.

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Speaker 2: Thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: It's mid range for me. Okay, I'll give it a

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so so all right, sounds good? All right. Next one

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is Sweet Little Sister.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the first song that on the

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album that Sebastian starts to demonstrate his talent. Vocals are

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strong on this one. He's he's rolling fast through a

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lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: When he sings that alligator and he pulls out the gator. Yeah, yeah,

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you're getting a taste of what's to come.

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Speaker 2: He's rolling that. I don't know what they call it,

474
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:01,599
vibrato or whatever.

475
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

476
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Okay. Here's something that I know is when I looked

477
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,319
at the lyrics on this song, right first line, the

478
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,000
opening line this song, she blew my mind behind the

479
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:13,359
record machine. She was a bit of trouble called a

480
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,720
subway queen right right. So I don't know why that

481
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:19,440
stands out of my brain, but just that term record

482
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,400
machine that makes me immediately think of the song Jump

483
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,079
by Van Halen.

484
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: Totally yeah. I mean, where else do you hear?

485
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:25,319
Speaker 3: That?

486
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,279
Speaker 1: Got my back against the record machine.

487
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: And these guys had already admitted that they were big

488
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:30,079
Van Halen fans.

489
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,799
Speaker 1: Right. It was one of two bands that Rachel Bowlin

490
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,400
and Dave Sabo both liked, which Kiss and Van Halen.

491
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,599
I bet it is, I bet, I bet it is

492
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:41,519
a sideways glance to jump.

493
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: Sweet Okay, cool, I can dig that. I like this

494
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,559
song too. I'm two for two. These are great solid

495
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:49,960
eighties hair metal rockers.

496
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a good I mean it's a good

497
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,680
pumping one. I like this one a little bit better

498
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,359
than the first one. I really like that you're starting

499
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,559
to hear his vibrado as he's singing out alligator yep.

500
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,519
Speaker 2: Still nothing super fancy yet vocally, but hang on because it's.

501
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,559
Speaker 1: Coming tight lipped now, but she sinks ships later.

502
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:11,519
Speaker 2: I love that part in the song when he's saying

503
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:16,000
that I love it okay. So that brings us to

504
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:23,079
song number three, a song called Can't Stand the Heartache.

505
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,519
Speaker 3: Okay.

506
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: I love this song. I think this could have been

507
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,319
a hit. I've always loved the vocals on this song.

508
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,559
He starts to really show off his talent this song

509
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:35,359
got airplay on my local radio station.

510
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is They're doing a nice build. This is

511
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,960
better than the first two songs. They just keep getting better.

512
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,000
And that chorus that they come in with that harmony

513
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,599
that they do perfect. Then they explode with the guitars.

514
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:51,240
Yeah that's fantastic.

515
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a great song, man, I really enjoy

516
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,920
this song. I want to point out something on this song. Okay,

517
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,279
so I've mentioned that I think the vocals are awesome,

518
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,599
but there's a part in the song during the chorus

519
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,799
where he says, can't stand the heartache, so bleeds the

520
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:10,240
red red rose time heals a broken heart. But that's

521
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,400
just the way it goes, Okay, yep, So throughout the

522
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,160
song at the beginning, the way he says goes is

523
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,000
sort of low level. Then the next time through the

524
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:28,599
chorus it's like medium, and then third time through it's

525
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,920
like hi, he starts, he hits that goes really hard,

526
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,240
and then the last time he hits it's a it's

527
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:40,759
like gows. It's it's really great and I can't imitate it,

528
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,240
but let's play it right here. I just think it's

529
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,720
really cool. I just think that that one note is

530
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:49,160
awesome with his voice.

531
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: Fantastic build, and the chorus of this is such a hook.

532
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,920
I mean, the melody that they've got on the chorus

533
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,440
on this song totally makes the song. It is fantastic,

534
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,480
one of the best on the album.

535
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, great pop metal right here? All right. The next

536
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:07,720
song on the album after Can't Stand the Heartache, This

537
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,559
song is called Piece of Me.

538
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:25,359
Speaker 1: Nice bassline. It's almost a heavy metal version of the

539
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,559
Mission Impossible theme.

540
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:29,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, cool, all right, d This song is

541
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,599
about getting into a fight, is it? I think? So?

542
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:38,079
Speaker 1: You got your heels? Are you looking pretty?

543
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: This is the song that Sebastian was singing when he

544
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:46,200
got hit in the head with that stray object in

545
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,799
that concert they're opening for Aerosmith.

546
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Are we talking about the infamous beer bottle incident? Yes? Yes,

547
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,319
oh yeah. Do we want to tell that story now?

548
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: Might as well? Yeah, sure, during the Piece of Me

549
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:01,599
part of that set.

550
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Right. Well, first, let's talk about the song. So the

551
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:08,920
song I love it, I just I love it. Okay,

552
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,319
You've got kind of a common thread on the meaning

553
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:14,680
and all of these songs. It's really pretty much about

554
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:19,480
hooking up with these dirty, nasty girls and and that's

555
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,599
that's great. It's all about rock and roll, and what's

556
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,519
rock and roll about? But getting the girls. But I

557
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,599
just love I love the bassline that Nana Nana man

558
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,839
man o, man o mano, and then you break off

559
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,680
and you get piece of Me. I love the break

560
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,200
I love the dynamics of this one. It's it's really

561
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,799
really solid and it's a really short song. I mean

562
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:46,559
this song is like less than three minutes long. It's

563
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,039
a super quick song, but theyve it's tight. It's a good, tight,

564
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,480
driven rock song. I really enjoy the video. You talk

565
00:30:57,519 --> 00:30:58,440
about the video real quick.

566
00:30:58,559 --> 00:30:58,759
Speaker 2: Sure.

567
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:05,039
Speaker 1: So the video is is a mix of concert footage

568
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:08,559
of the band, mostly close ups of their faces singing

569
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,400
or maybe uh, you know, a picture of Rachel Bolan's

570
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,000
button his tight white jeans while he's playing that bassline.

571
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,160
But it's intermixed with this the these cops arresting all

572
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400
of these people who appear to be concertgoers.

573
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,359
Speaker 2: I did read an article that Sebastian talking about how

574
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,119
he doesn't get credit for this song. But Rachel Bolan

575
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000
was messing around with the bassline, and Sebastian's like, yeah, man,

576
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,400
that's really good, and just like you like this one,

577
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880
and it was the bomboom boom boom bom boom boom

578
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,599
boom boom, and that's what started the build of the song,

579
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,119
and through Sebastian's encouragement, basically they built that song on

580
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,279
that baseline. According to Sebastian, Right.

581
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,559
Speaker 1: So you see guys getting thrown against the ground, you

582
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,000
see girls getting thrown against the police cars. They're not

583
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,880
discriminatory on how they abuse the people who are getting rested.

584
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:05,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure right, how dare you go to a concert?

585
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,480
I'm gonna bust your button?

586
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: And so interestingly that this video would be about getting

587
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,000
arrested because December twenty seventh, nineteen eighty nine, they are

588
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:22,680
performing this song in Springfield, Massachusetts, and suddenly Sebastian Bach

589
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,000
feels something to graze his head and then sees this

590
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,599
red substance coming down over his eyes. She's like, why

591
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,759
would somebody throw a can of tomato juice at me?

592
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,920
As it turned out it was a beer bottle and

593
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,200
that was blood coming down into his face. And once

594
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,839
he realized that, he looked out in the crowd and

595
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,279
started screaming who did that? Who threw that? And some

596
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,359
guy was giving him the California Howdy with both hands,

597
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,720
and he was like, he was like, I'm coming after

598
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:52,759
you want a piece of me? And that's like, I mean,

599
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,440
of course that's the song that they're playing. But before

600
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,200
he dives in to start wailing on this dude, he

601
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:04,960
decides to throw the beer bottle back, which was a horrible.

602
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Decision, yeah, because he's not a major league pitcher, So

603
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,720
he misses his target and it just to hit a

604
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:12,240
girl right in the face.

605
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: A fourteen year old girl. Yeah, and she ends up

606
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240
getting one hundred and twenty five stitches in her face.

607
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,119
And just from the scuffle. I don't think anybody actually

608
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:25,480
knew what had happened to the girl at the time,

609
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,759
you know, other than the people she was associated with.

610
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,799
But just because of the fight that broke out, Doc

611
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,359
McGee was getting him out of there quick, getting him

612
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,559
on the road quick. But before they could get out

613
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:40,880
of Massachusetts, the Massachusetts PD pulled over the van, took

614
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,519
Sebastian back out and said you're going to jail, buddy.

615
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Yep, it's really Sebastian continued to make poor decisions. He

616
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,000
was kind of his own worst enemy. I mean, he's

617
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,759
definitely his own worst enemy throughout his entire time with

618
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,640
his band. This decision was the worst of the bunch.

619
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, there's a T shirt incident that was pretty close.

620
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:05,319
Speaker 2: That was second worst. This was a first horse.

621
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: I guess no one was physically injured with a T

622
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,679
shirt incident, but yes, it's I mean, the guy. The

623
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:21,280
guy is an amazing physical specimen. He looks there's a

624
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,000
picture him on the cover of the book that you

625
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:28,199
gave me that has him with you know, he's it's

626
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,039
him from the eighties and he's got his arms up

627
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:32,880
in the air and no shirt on, and he's kind of,

628
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,039
you know, showing off the physique a little bit. Caleb

629
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,400
was like, dude, Dad, why do you why do you

630
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,920
have that book? That's gross? And I was like, it's

631
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,480
just it's just the singer of the eighteen in line

632
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,440
or no, it's just the singer of I Remember You.

633
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,280
And he goes, a girl sang that song and no, dude,

634
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,599
that's not a girl. He's like, well, but that's a girl.

635
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,320
I'm like, no, that's not a girl. Oh man, he goes,

636
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:08,079
that's a guy. That's even more gross, dad, But yeah, he,

637
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,360
I mean, one of the most outstanding voices in all

638
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:19,320
of rock history, amazing facial structure, amazing physical stature and build,

639
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,840
and I mean, how do you how do you screw

640
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,519
all that up?

641
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 2: He screwed it all up. And you're exactly right. He's

642
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:33,039
everything you look for in a lead front man. Amazing voice,

643
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:38,480
great looking, dude, young, he fits the attitude of the band.

644
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:43,960
He's he's the perfect fit, except he makes stupid decisions

645
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,599
and he's obnoxious, and he's he just rubs everybody around

646
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:49,400
him the wrong way.

647
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is very, very impulsive, very impulsive.

648
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: In his defense, yeah, he is twenty one.

649
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: Years old, right, Yeah, yeah, that's true.

650
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,119
Speaker 2: And I didn't have that kind of power, influence, money

651
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:05,159
at twenty one, and thank goodness I didn't.

652
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I certainly made plenty of stupid decisions

653
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:12,199
without having all the drugs, women and money that I

654
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,239
could ever want. Right Yeah.

655
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,599
Speaker 2: So Piece of Me is their fourth single off the album.

656
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,239
It's their fourth and final single. This was released. I

657
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,159
couldn't really find a date on this, but in my

658
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,760
memory it's February of nineteen nineties, kind of early nineteen nineties,

659
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,400
the last single. Have you ever heard the Axel Rose

660
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,159
version of this song? No, but yeah, so Axel Rose

661
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,800
actually sings the version of this song. It's pretty cool

662
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,119
that hear Axel sing a skid Row song. I don't know. Yeah,

663
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:41,800
this was a big hit on MTV like Headbanger's Ball

664
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,079
it was. It was a big hit. Cool, Yes, all right,

665
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,039
we're moving on to one of the big hitters.

666
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:51,519
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, So we've had a study build. I'd put

667
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,039
Piece of Me right there with Can't Stand the Heart

668
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,400
egch both solid, just keeps getting better, keeps getting better

669
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,360
as the A side plays on.

670
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,679
Speaker 2: Are ramping up. The next song on the album is

671
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,559
eighteen in Life.

672
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,159
Speaker 1: We've got a different beginning here. This is slow and

673
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:25,119
sweet and mysterious and dark. We're not talking about hooking

674
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,480
up with girls, and we're not talking about getting in fights.

675
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:40,199
Oh listen to that voice Stone, Oh there they go

676
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:41,519
big hitting now.

677
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: This is a beautiful rock song, a beautiful rock song.

678
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,679
Speaker 1: It's got an awesome mix of the ballad and the

679
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,079
rock pumping in your face too for the intro to

680
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,480
the chorus, and then you've got a really you get

681
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,519
some deep lyrics here. And this isn't Ricky is based

682
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:03,880
up on a story that Dave Sabo had read that

683
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:07,760
actually involved a kid who shot his friend didn't realize

684
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,760
you said, he didn't know the gun was loaded and

685
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:12,079
killed his friend and got life in prison. And of

686
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:15,039
course the video on this has got these you know,

687
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,719
disenfranchised youth spray painting and tearing up the lapidated buildings

688
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480
and then they're shooting the shooting bottles with the gun.

689
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:26,639
It's just heartbreaking.

690
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, So this reached number four on the Hot

691
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,400
one hundred. This was their second single release June sixteenth,

692
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,320
nineteen eighty nine. This is their biggest hit. But there's

693
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,760
two parts in the song that really set it apart

694
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,559
from everything else. Okay, So there's a part in the

695
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:49,360
song as that it builds towards the guitar solo, and

696
00:38:49,480 --> 00:39:00,119
Sebastian sings that child blew a child away.

697
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,119
Speaker 1: Most moving line on the whole album.

698
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,199
Speaker 2: His voice to the guitar solo. It's so sad and powerful.

699
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:11,079
It's just chilling. I love it. The second part of

700
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:14,679
the song that blows me away are his straight up

701
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,119
screams at the end of the song. This is Sebastian

702
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,519
really demonstrating his talent and how that sets him apart

703
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:27,800
from everybody else. Yeah, when you compare that line to

704
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,159
Matt Fallon's line.

705
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,079
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we may have some people listening who are

706
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,519
still skid Row fans now, but I gotta say, from

707
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,599
my perspective, skid Row without Sebastian Bach is not skid Row.

708
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: No. No, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'm gonna

709
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,000
defend the band. Okay, there's a lot of people say

710
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,079
they're trash without Sebastian. Well, they they wrote these great

711
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,719
rock songs, so they deserve credit for that. I mean,

712
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,960
you know, Dave Sabo and Rachel Bollen wrote eighteen in Life.

713
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,159
That's a great rock song, but Sebastian is what took

714
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,320
them over the top. And I wish they could put

715
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:18,559
their differences aside and reform the loved lineup of skid

716
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:23,400
Row to perform these songs again. I had this poster, Okay,

717
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:25,840
So I had this one of these really cool record

718
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,920
stores in town, and they would give away like these

719
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,599
old posters that they didn't want anymore. So I have

720
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,639
upstairs of my attic right now a humongous picture of

721
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,400
the eighteen in Life single as a poster.

722
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: Nice.

723
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,159
Speaker 2: Okay, here's something I thought was interesting. In April of

724
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:48,599
twenty fifteen, they had a new singer named Tony Harnell.

725
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,920
They re recorded eighteen in Life and re released it

726
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,840
as a free download on the band's website. Okay, this

727
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:03,119
is the only studio recording they had with him on vocals,

728
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,119
and it was a it was a it was a

729
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:11,880
good effort. Okay, But nobody has Sebastian's voice right, and

730
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,800
it's not his fault. It's just the reality of life.

731
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,079
Only Sebastian can sing this song. Eighteen in Life was

732
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:22,159
named the sixtieth Best Hard Rock Song of All Time

733
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,599
by v H one and was certified gold on September

734
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:30,079
thirteenth and nineteen eighty nine. Love this song. It's iconic eighties.

735
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,599
The vocals blow me away every single time.

736
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,679
Speaker 1: Yep, we are peaking on side one.

737
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,119
Speaker 2: All right, you're done with eighteen in Life. Yeah, moving

738
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,320
on to Rattle Snake Shake.

739
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: Yes, Wait a minute, wait a minute, we already covered

740
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:09,280
this song. Oh no, so the bold they both sang

741
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:17,360
the same song. No, no, they didn't, different song, same title,

742
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,639
even though they came out at almost exactly the same time.

743
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: This had to have been somebody mentioned to somebody that Hey,

744
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,400
I'm working on this song called Rattlesnake Shake. Oh, that's

745
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,800
kind of a cool title, and they all kind of

746
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,360
went off and ran with it, and this is what

747
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,119
they came up with.

748
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:39,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a good intro line and it seems

749
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:42,800
like it's gonna have hope and I can totally see

750
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,599
strippers playing this song for themselves. But this is the

751
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:51,760
low point on the album for me. I mean, we had,

752
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,159
we had pretty good, even better, really good, really good

753
00:42:56,599 --> 00:43:01,679
blow in my mind and total disappointment. Rattlesnake Shake. Okay,

754
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,639
what are your thoughts?

755
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: No, I like this one. I mean, you know, I'm

756
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,280
trying not to gush on every song on this album.

757
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,039
I like every song. The problem with this song is

758
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,840
it falls between eighteen in Life and Youth Gone Wild

759
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,320
and it is a step down and it does get

760
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,239
a little hokey when he's like, I've got a friend

761
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:26,079
I want to introduce you to. Right that, I mean

762
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:32,639
he steps into poison level lyrics right there. Okay, Oh yeah,

763
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,440
I like it.

764
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: Though I like it, I think even this had been

765
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,039
in between Big Guns and Sweet Little Sister, I would

766
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:41,960
still think it was the low point in the album.

767
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm

768
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,280
not fast forwarding this song. This is not a skipper

769
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,679
to me. I still like it. It does get a

770
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,559
little hokey for me.

771
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd be flipping the tape over and hitting rewind.

772
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost time to do that. I like this

773
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,440
the lyric. I don't know why this lyric cracks me up,

774
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,239
but he says tricky Little Vicky walks along South Street.

775
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,960
She learned her French from the boys that she'd meet.

776
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,440
I gotta laugh when I hear them say she's a

777
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:19,800
sweet little cheese when the cat's away.

778
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Sweet little cheese, Sweet.

779
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: Little cheese when the cat's away.

780
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means.

781
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't either.

782
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,679
Speaker 1: All Right, we ready to move on.

783
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Well, you're lost in search of passion, but Prince Charming

784
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,199
ain't in fashion. So yeah, stop your tape, kick it out,

785
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:42,599
flip it over.

786
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: It rewinds. Since she didn't listen to all.

787
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: Of starting off side too, we have you've gone wild?

788
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they've redeemed themselves with that first. Yeah.

789
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,400
This is a great song.

790
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: This is a rock anthem. This is like welcome to

791
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,039
the juggle.

792
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: Mean it is. It's You've got the disenfranchised youth who

793
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,960
are finding their song to let their let their pain speak.

794
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,159
You know, we're we're tired of your crap. We're gonna

795
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:33,159
go be ourselves. That that's what the song is all about.

796
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is what I like about this song.

797
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: Right.

798
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: This is a grab you by the shirt, shake you around,

799
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,639
and say we are the youth gone wild. Right, and

800
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:47,840
you've got that street gang like backing vocals, like where

801
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,199
they're shouting. It's a group of them saying we are

802
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,119
the youth gone wild. And then you match that with

803
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Sebastian's killer vocals. Again, I love it. It's a fist

804
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:01,920
pumper at the highest degree.

805
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,679
Speaker 1: You're you're in the crowd and you're pumping your fist

806
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,039
and you're singing along with in almost a chant.

807
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:11,639
Speaker 2: Yes. And we talked earlier about this is the song

808
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:14,599
that made Sebastian decided to join skid Row. When he

809
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,039
was reading the lyrics and kind of learning the tape

810
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:19,880
that they had sent to him, he talked about how

811
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,039
the first line, since I was born, they couldn't hold

812
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:26,760
me down. Another misfit kid, another burned out town. He

813
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,920
said he felt like that that was speaking into his life.

814
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:33,840
So He really identified with those lyrics we are the

815
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Youth Gone Wild. He even talks about how he was

816
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,480
the first believer in this song. He got a tattoo

817
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,239
that said Youth Gone Wild before they had a manager,

818
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,519
before they had a record deal, before they had anything.

819
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,119
Speaker 1: This has the Motley Crue Live Wire feel to me,

820
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:54,840
where you're in the crowd, you're pumping your fist, you're

821
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,880
singing along, You're like in the chant fully invested, good,

822
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,599
good music on this one.

823
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,119
Speaker 2: So Sebastian said that I remember playing Youth with the guys,

824
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,239
and when we got to the middle part where we

825
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,679
do the chorus with just the drums and the vocals,

826
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000
I sang the entire thing in one breath and they

827
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,239
all were blown away. They couldn't believe it.

828
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Very cool, good thing. He's so humble.

829
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: Sebastian loves him some Sebastian like, I said, okay, so well,

830
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,599
they were working on this song. They were discussing how

831
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:29,559
good the song was, what they thought of it, what

832
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:31,599
they thought of the other songs. He said, hey, man,

833
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,760
do you think we'll ever go gold? Could you just

834
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,840
imagine that? And Dave Saba was like, I don't know, man,

835
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,639
that'd be crazy and once that album came out, he said,

836
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:44,480
it took about two weeks for them to go gold. Yeah,

837
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:48,639
it's a great song, it is. It's an anchor song

838
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,000
for the album. So this is the song that put

839
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,920
him on the map. They they, I mean, they blasted

840
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,239
out of nowhere in January of eighty nine. I've got

841
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,639
a great quote here. It says this song, accompanied with

842
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,920
a vide announced the band as rock's newest bad boys.

843
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:07,679
The CD underside of the poppy, winger Warrant style hard

844
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,639
rock that had started to dominate the musical landscape. This

845
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:15,400
is more guns n' Roses than Poison Warrant, bon JOONI even.

846
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean skid Row, even with this album,

847
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,559
which is probably the poppiest of the albums that they had,

848
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,760
is much more edgy than the most popular metal groups

849
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,159
of the day. I mean even Motley, I think even

850
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:33,480
the Crew, They're more edgy in this particular moment. Yeah,

851
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:35,960
this is kind of the end. I mean, they became

852
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:40,199
kind of the poster child for hair metal at the

853
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,400
time that hair metal was about to go out of style.

854
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: Some people have said that skid Row had unbelievably good

855
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:53,199
timing or unbelievably poor timing, but they hit that last

856
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,280
peak of hair metal before it died.

857
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,159
Speaker 1: Yep.

858
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,159
Speaker 2: Sebastian kind of compares this song to Ozzy Osbourne's Paranoid

859
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,000
and Van Halen's Running with the Devil. It's their rock anthem.

860
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, humility all over the place, all right. Were ready

861
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:13,840
to move on?

862
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,039
Speaker 2: Yep, ready to move on?

863
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:28,559
Speaker 1: Next song on the album Here I Am. The song

864
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:33,920
starts off so well, the guitar is really awesome, and

865
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,079
then something happens about twenty seconds in. I can't just

866
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,480
tell you what it is. Maybe it's Sebastian Bach telling

867
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,280
me how tall he is. I don't know what it is,

868
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,360
but I just get like, oh, okay, okay.

869
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: It does get into those once again. They drift toward

870
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:58,639
the poison goofy lyrics. It's not the same grit you've

871
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:04,599
gone wild eighteen in live raw, amazing song.

872
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, they've got a good melody to the chorus.

873
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,480
It's just I don't know what it is. I can't

874
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:15,679
I cannot put my finger on what it is about

875
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:18,440
this song that makes me just not want to listen

876
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:18,800
to it.

877
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,519
Speaker 2: I like it. It's not a skipper, but you get

878
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,800
lyrics for me, I better see a doctor because I

879
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,199
think I'm getting hooked on you. Right, that's a bad

880
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:31,960
pickup line.

881
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: It's a terrible pickup.

882
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: Right.

883
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:37,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

884
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: How about this one here, I am close your eyes

885
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:46,480
and I'll be Superman. Just because the guitar is great

886
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,280
and Sebastian's voice is great, the lyrics are hokey, right, yeah,

887
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,840
I like it. It's not a skipper, like I said.

888
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,920
This is the song where my buddy was making a

889
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,320
dub tape for me and I had to go home

890
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,960
because you know, I was late for supper or whatever.

891
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:04,880
Right stop on the tape. It was in the middle

892
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,559
of the guitar solo on this song. So all right,

893
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,800
are we done with here?

894
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: I am very very done with it. I would be

895
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,639
fast forwarding still at this moment. So I'm just glad

896
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:19,639
that all of these songs are pretty short.

897
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,519
Speaker 2: Okay. So that brings us to a song called making

898
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:24,039
a Mess.

899
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: Good bet to this one. Good guitar riff, great voice,

900
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:39,920
fast again.

901
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: All right, I've got a little tidbit on this song.

902
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:46,199
Speaker 1: So this is this is the only song on the

903
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,280
album that Sebastian bar gets writing credit on. It's him

904
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,320
and Rachel and Dave.

905
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, interesting, what you got? Okay. A couple of

906
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,559
summers ago, Sebastian put out a notice on social media

907
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:03,159
and he said, listen, any members of skid Row that

908
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,320
want to come and join me on stage, you're invited.

909
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:12,719
Let's get together. I don't think anybody's going to accept Dave, Rachel, Scottie, Rob.

910
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,280
If you want to come and participate and come join

911
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,320
me on stage and we can do some old skid

912
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,159
Row stuff, that would be awesome, just let me know.

913
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,360
Open invitation. He got one acceptance from Rob Alfuso and

914
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,320
he came and performed Making a Mess with Sebastian on

915
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,199
September twenty fifth, twenty nineteen. I think that's cool. Good

916
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,119
for him. I mean, I really I'm not involved in

917
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:42,519
the daily lives of these guys, but it just seems

918
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:46,599
crazy that they could not put their differences aside to

919
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:49,960
even talk. I mean, they had so much success together,

920
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,880
it just never really makes any sense to me. So

921
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:56,880
interesting lyrics, the Lianguay says he lit up a smoke

922
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,719
and did some talking with the back of his hand. Right.

923
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,639
He says that in the song Yeah, during the concert,

924
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,880
he would always go up to some person on the

925
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,920
front row and and fain like he was smacking them.

926
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Classy yep. Then somebody threw a beer bottle at him.

927
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they threw the beer bottle. I don't

928
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,519
have anything more. I just want to get onto I Remember.

929
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:25,079
Speaker 3: You, dude.

930
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: I've been waiting the entire sticking album to get to

931
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:33,039
this song. Okay, the entire stinking album. Let's make it happen.

932
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:43,559
Tenth song on the album, I Remember You. So we

933
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:53,760
got a twelve string guitar, simple melody, two chords. Oh,

934
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,360
listen to their voice. Okay, so this is their ballad.

935
00:53:57,559 --> 00:53:58,119
That's cool.

936
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,559
Speaker 2: Crab it come man.

937
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:12,639
Speaker 1: Oh, but of course they come in full throttle and

938
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:13,920
the dynamics are there.

939
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,159
Speaker 3: Man.

940
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: Back again to just the twelve string, A little bit

941
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,480
of drum in the back. I love it, love this

942
00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:22,320
song so much.

943
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: This is an amazing, amazing ballad. One of the best

944
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:28,880
of all time.

945
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I would. I could make an argument that this was

946
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:34,800
this is the best rock ballad of the eighties. I could.

947
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:41,400
The argument could be made. His falsetto his vibrato, his range,

948
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,280
Holy crap.

949
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:49,119
Speaker 2: It's sweet, it's passionate, it's lovely. I mean it's beautiful.

950
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,199
Speaker 1: Love letters in the sand. I don't even know what

951
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,400
that means, and I still like tearing up.

952
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's so good man. And this is the

953
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,000
third sing released November eighteenth, of eighty nine. This was

954
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:08,360
the prom Song of the Year nominated by USA Today

955
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,639
for nineteen ninety. It was the prom Song of nineteen

956
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,719
ninety reach number six in the Hot one hundred. Here's

957
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,480
the funny story. I love this story. This was almost

958
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,159
not good enough for Rachel Bull and Dave Sabo. They

959
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:24,000
wrote this song, but they thought it was too wimpy, right,

960
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:29,000
So they were playing it and Sebastian's like, guys, this

961
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:31,639
is a great song, and they're like, eh, it's you know,

962
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,400
it's just a song, but we don't really think it's

963
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:37,960
good enough for our album. We're rock, you know, this

964
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:41,039
is too weeny stuff. And Sebastian's like, guys, I think

965
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,320
we need to put this on the album. They're like no, no.

966
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:46,840
So Doc McGee came to the studio one day and

967
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,559
Sebastian's like, Doc, you gotta hear the song. You gotta

968
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:51,960
hear the song, guys, we gotta play this song for Doc.

969
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,840
And Doc's like, all right, I'm listening. And so they

970
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,199
play it for him and Doc is laughing the whole time,

971
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,920
and so they don't know, is he laughing at us?

972
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,679
Is he laughing because it sucks? We don't really know.

973
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,079
And so they're like at the end they finished and

974
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:11,599
they're like, so, Doc, what's the deal? Why are you laughing?

975
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:16,400
He's like, ha ha, that's going on the album. This

976
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,639
song is covered by Carrie Underwood. Have you heard her

977
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:19,000
do it?

978
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,679
Speaker 1: Yes? I have, And I got to say she did

979
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,239
a good job with it. I mean, it takes some

980
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,000
Braska Jones to tackle a song like this, even if

981
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:31,840
you are Carrie Underwood, but she she did a great

982
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,159
job with it. It's it's not Celine Dion and ac DC.

983
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,159
Speaker 2: It's that is true. Selene Dion's attempted a CDC bad,

984
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,559
Carrie Underwood's attempt at skid Row good. Yeah, goes all

985
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:50,840
the way, she goes, balls to the wall and she

986
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,519
she's still not Sebastian Bach, but she gets close.

987
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing, honestly, the only thing I don't

988
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,360
like about the video is that it's it's somebody out

989
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,280
at the concert that's recording what's going on? And then

990
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:05,360
right before it gets really good, they suddenly stop recording

991
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,880
and I'm like, wella, we don't get the rest what happened?

992
00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.

993
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: There's also a great YouTube video out there of I

994
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,679
don't remember what this girl's name is, but it's basically

995
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:22,920
like vocal coach listens to whatever and people recommend, hey,

996
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,840
you should go listen to this particular band. And she

997
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,199
had never seen nor heard skid Row do this. She's

998
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,639
from the UK, not that you know, skid Row is

999
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:36,400
unknown there, but she she didn't know. And so this

1000
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:40,199
day what she listens to is a live performance of

1001
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,840
this one where he's going all over the place and

1002
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,599
he's building up the crowd and talking and I mean,

1003
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:48,400
of course, our first impression is like, oh, well he's

1004
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:54,199
quite the physical specimen, isn't he? But yeah, and then

1005
00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:56,559
he's of course, once he starts singing, she's sure her

1006
00:57:56,599 --> 00:58:02,119
mind is just blown. But my gosh, this song just

1007
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:05,119
I mean, this song had to be sung by him.

1008
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,599
Who else? Who else is going to sing this song?

1009
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,679
Speaker 2: I've got another cool story about this song. Do you

1010
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:10,840
know who Nora Jones is?

1011
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1012
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: In an issue of Rolling Stone magazine, they asked Nora

1013
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,599
Jones what song was it that made you want to

1014
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:22,480
be a rock star? And she said I Remember You

1015
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:23,199
by skid Row.

1016
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: Wow.

1017
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: She tells a story that she had a crush on

1018
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,559
this guy in high school and he was kind of

1019
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:33,800
a metal head and she made him a mixtape that

1020
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,079
began with I Remember You, right do you? I mean,

1021
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,559
I remember the days of making mixtapes as way of

1022
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,119
here are My Feelings for You songs one through ten yep,

1023
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:48,079
for sure, And it wasn't really her deal. She couldn't

1024
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:52,159
really get into it, but she could do I Remember You,

1025
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:54,719
and that's the one that spoke to our heart and

1026
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,440
that's the one that made her want to be a singer.

1027
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,039
Speaker 1: All right, I hate to do it, but we got

1028
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:00,719
to listen to the end of the song. We got

1029
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:04,159
to listen to what he does where he absolutely kills

1030
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:06,159
at the end of the song. Here it is, everybody go,

1031
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,519
absolutely freaking amazing.

1032
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,679
Speaker 2: I could listen to this song a thousand times and

1033
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:40,679
give me chills every time.

1034
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:45,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. I you know, I hadn't listened to the

1035
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:49,320
song in probably years when we decided to do this,

1036
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:53,320
and I can still remember putting it, putting on the

1037
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,599
headphones and started my run and when this thing came on,

1038
00:59:57,559 --> 01:00:00,280
I like stopped and I just let the hair on

1039
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,039
my arm stand up. Is so good.

1040
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,639
Speaker 2: The vocals on this song is great. I think there's

1041
01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:07,760
a part in the song that it's not the big

1042
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,840
crowd pleaser, but he said, it's the part where he says,

1043
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,199
and I swear you'll never be lonely, and he drags

1044
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:21,199
out that voice that note, he drags out that note. Yeah,

1045
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,639
it's not a high one, but it's just it's just

1046
01:00:23,679 --> 01:00:25,519
a real satisfying.

1047
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,239
Speaker 1: And it's right. It goes right into that lead, that

1048
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,119
guitar lead, which, by the way, is another fantastic part

1049
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:34,159
of the song. I mean, there are there are some

1050
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,880
songs out there that you know the guitar lead note

1051
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,280
by note as you're listening to it, Like if somebody said,

1052
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:43,000
do the guitar lead for I Remember You could you

1053
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,119
could probably sing it out because it's such a well

1054
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,639
put together lead. And this is one of those songs.

1055
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were talking about those reaction videos. Yeah, I

1056
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,400
saw one where a dad was showing it to his daughter,

1057
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,800
who news aston Bach only as the old guy in

1058
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:09,400
Gilmore Girls. Right, So he plays I Remember You the

1059
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,199
video for her and she watches it, and you could

1060
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,239
just see her eyeballs about pop out of her head.

1061
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,519
And he's like, I didn't know this guy had pipes

1062
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:19,039
like that. Huh she was, She was amazed.

1063
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Gilmore Girls Guilty Pleasure.

1064
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: I gotta say, Gilmore Girls is a funny, clever, well written.

1065
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,239
It's a great show man. It's a great show and if.

1066
01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: You like.

1067
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,639
Speaker 2: If you like our stuff, you'll like their stuff. Yeah, Okay,

1068
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,360
are we done with I Remember You?

1069
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1070
01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: All right, couples move out to the center of the eyes.

1071
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,840
All right. Last song on the album. It's called Midnight Tornado.

1072
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: I almost feel like they said, we can't finish with

1073
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,000
a ballad. We got to put something in there that

1074
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:07,920
kicks butt at the end, something that's tough and rough.

1075
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:10,400
And I want to go back and listen to I

1076
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:10,880
Remember You.

1077
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:16,679
Speaker 2: I like this song. I like all the songs on

1078
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:20,639
the album. This one got skipped more than anything else,

1079
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,440
just because I was ready to get back to the beginning.

1080
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,159
Big Guns. I like it. It's good. He has a

1081
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:30,480
unbelievably great rock scream in the middle of this song.

1082
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, but this is almost to

1083
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:35,480
me just an add on.

1084
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: Well it's it's on par with like Big Guns and

1085
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Sweet Little Sister, solid rocker, nothing spectacular other than that whale.

1086
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,239
It's it's just a good song. I like it.

1087
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they do just kind of throw back to

1088
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:50,239
the when I'm feeling wicked and my blood is running hot.

1089
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: All right, I got one little tidbit on this song.

1090
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,880
I had to dig deep for this one. You're ready

1091
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:54,159
for this?

1092
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: I bet yes? Go ahead, okay.

1093
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: On October twentieth, twenty nineteen, Sebastian Bach had a show

1094
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,760
in Dallas that had to be canceled due to a

1095
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:04,920
midnight tornado.

1096
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: There is no joke, an actual tornado.

1097
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,599
Speaker 2: An actual tornado that was going to interrupt the show

1098
01:03:10,679 --> 01:03:14,519
near midnight. Oh my bam. That is something you won't

1099
01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:15,920
hear on any other podcast.

1100
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,559
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's good. That's a nice touch, a

1101
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:22,199
good way to finish off the album.

1102
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good song. It's not the best song

1103
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,239
on the album by any stretch, but I like it.

1104
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,559
Speaker 1: So what's interesting is that while they're touring, right, so

1105
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,840
they go on tour with bon Jovi and Aersmith while

1106
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,159
this album is building, and even as they're opening for

1107
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,159
bon Jovi on their nights off, they would go and

1108
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:46,320
play clubs. I think that's pretty fantastic. Yeah, So they

1109
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,920
would play for you know, seventy two thousand people in

1110
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,280
Giant Stadium, and then they'd go play for twenty people

1111
01:03:54,719 --> 01:04:02,039
at Sam's Bar or whatever. This album peaked at number

1112
01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:08,559
six on the Billboard two hundred and certified five times platinum.

1113
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: This was recorded in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Producer was Michael Wagner.

1114
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,199
As we said, I think they Sebastian talks about how

1115
01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:19,960
they sent him up there to record the album, probably

1116
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:21,119
to keep them out of trouble.

1117
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:25,239
Speaker 1: Is it time now to move to final judgment?

1118
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: It's time to move to final judgment.

1119
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: Two fantastic albums, Doctor feel Good and skid Row Jason.

1120
01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:40,559
Speaker 2: Okay, I know I say this every time. We don't

1121
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:45,679
pick losers, we pick favorites. These were two absolute favorites.

1122
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,960
I carried them everywhere. I listened to them all the time.

1123
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:53,639
Here's where I'm coming down. Doctor feel Good is Motley

1124
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:58,519
Crue's best album. The songs there on that album unforgettable,

1125
01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:02,880
Doctor feel Good, Fantastic, Kickstart my Heart, same Old Situation,

1126
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:07,679
Don't Go Away Mad. It does have some junk songs

1127
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:12,320
on There She Goes Down, not the best Time for Change,

1128
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,679
not the best overall, though it's my favorite Motley Crue album.

1129
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,679
Skid Row with the benefit once again of having their

1130
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:23,400
debut album, You've got your entire life to come up

1131
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,800
with ten great songs. Doctor Feel Good it's their fifth

1132
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,679
or sixth studio album, so they get a little break there.

1133
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:34,519
But the skid Row debut album pound for pound better

1134
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,000
than Doctor Feel Good in my opinion. You have fantastic

1135
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,639
rock anthem Youth Gone Wild. You have mind blowing song

1136
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,519
eighteen in Life. You have maybe the greatest power ballad

1137
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:52,199
song of all time, all led by Sebastian's amazing vocals.

1138
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:56,440
You've got ten great rock songs. Skid Row better album,

1139
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:01,519
Motley Crue, better catalog, more fun. I'd rather go see

1140
01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:05,360
them in concert, But album to album, I'm picking skid Row.

1141
01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:10,679
Speaker 1: I've said it before and I'll say it again. That's

1142
01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:14,519
your opinion. It's just that your opinion is wrong. When

1143
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:17,440
we decided to compare these two, I totally thought that

1144
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:21,639
I was gonna go with skid Row because Sebastian Bach's

1145
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,840
voice is amazing. It is unquestionably better than Vince Neil's voice.

1146
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,519
Vince Neil has a decent rock voice at best. He

1147
01:06:31,559 --> 01:06:35,760
doesn't have a mind blowingly like I can go sing

1148
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,239
on Broadway and I can scream out rock songs. He

1149
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,840
just doesn't have that kind of voice that Sebastian Bach does.

1150
01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:46,480
And so I thought, yeah, okay, so the skid row

1151
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:49,480
is going to be a sure win. But I'm gonna

1152
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,559
have to I'm just gonna have to go ahead and

1153
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:54,920
disagree with you on this track listing thing. I mean,

1154
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,920
if we look at the track listing, I'm not even

1155
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,280
gonna I disagree with you. I don't think there's any

1156
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,079
skipper on Doctor feel Good at all, but I'll just

1157
01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:05,960
throw out some of some of the best ones. All right,

1158
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,119
You've got Doctor feel Good, You've got Kickstart my Heart.

1159
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:13,920
Holy crap, what an incredible song you've got. Without you,

1160
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,440
you've got same old situation, You've got Don't go away, Mad,

1161
01:07:18,639 --> 01:07:21,440
just go away. The only song on here that I

1162
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,639
think is even close to a skipper is Time for

1163
01:07:23,679 --> 01:07:26,840
a Change. And that's like, you know you're done with

1164
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,119
the album at that point. The whole album is good songs.

1165
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:32,719
But even if you throw away the ones that you

1166
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,639
might think are Skippers, You've still got one, two, three, four,

1167
01:07:37,239 --> 01:07:42,800
five killer songs on Doctor Feel Good. With skid Row,

1168
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:50,760
you've got some decent songs with three four really great songs.

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You've got eighteen in life, You've gone wild, I remember

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you totally amazing, no question about it, and can't stand

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the heartache. Those are the best ones on the album,

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and the rest of them I could skip. I mean,

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Sweetless Little Sisters, okay, but it's not one that's going

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to fall into my rotation. But Doctor feel Good and

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I had to ask, I'm like, why why is it?

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Because they're both very very similar sounds, right, You've got

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hard hitting guitars, you've got speedy leads on them. But

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there's just something that's almost undefinable about Doctor Feel Good.

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And I'm going to do my best to try to

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to find it, even though I just said it was undefinable.

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I think for Doctor Feel Good, Motley Cruze finally went

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back and started pulling from the blues roots a little

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bit more, and it was more rock than metal, and

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they had more variation and better melodies and even I

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and maybe it's just you know, Nicky six coming off

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dying twice as the inspiration for this album. I got

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to say there's more heart, more love, of more rock,

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and more awesomeness in Doctor Feel Good, and it to

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me is the clear winner. All Right, well, I'm not

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even a Motley Crue fan. You're the Moley Krue fan.

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Speaker 2: I am the Molly Krue fan. I love both of

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these guys. I mean yeah, like I said, Motley Crue

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catalog way out way of skid Row. But I'm taking

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this one in a slight edge over Doctor field Good.

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We want to hear from you guys, where do you

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01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:28,039
come down? Am I crazy? Taking the rookies out of

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01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:31,319
the gate against the goliath that Motley Crue was maybe

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the most iconic rock band in the nineteen eighties? Are

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you with d Are you with Me? Where do you Fall?

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Doctor feel Good? Or skid Row?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Next week we have a special edition of the

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Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. We got to hang

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,000
out for a little while with a couple of guys

1204
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who have made a new movie that we really really like,

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and we hope that you guys will too. It'll be

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fun to listen to them tell their story of how

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they were able to put together a movie for only

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two thousand dollars and it's a great one, so tune

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in for that one. We will be with the Nuevo

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Brothers discussing their movie Canners.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for that. That's gonna be a lot of fun.

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We had fun with them and hopefully you guys will

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enjoy it as much as we did.

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Speaker 1: Guys, thank you again so much for listening in. We

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love your input on Facebook. We love that we keep

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01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,880
growing the listenership every day. Please please please tell your

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:27,720
friends about us.

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Speaker 2: If you can't send us a thousand dollars check, leave

1219
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us a five star review. That would be great. D

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It's been fun man. Yeah, love both of these albums.

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In fact, I think I'm gonna go listen to them

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right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see you guys next week.

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01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,399
Speaker 2: Holy crap, The Boys is so good.

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01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:50,239
Speaker 1: Man, here it comes.

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01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 2: Hey, this is it big finish, It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: He's missing one of his strings.

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Speaker 2: Really in the video.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a twelve string, but it's only a

1230
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goot eleven of the strings. One of the strings is missing.

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Speaker 2: Wow.