Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast? Jason,
how you doing?
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bottle at me.
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Speaker 2: Graves and Jason Colliban.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we are back for our comparison of
Doctor Feel Good versus skid Row. We covered Doctor Feel
Good last week, and we are back with the debut
album of skid Row titled skid Row. Very creative. Jason,
you remember getting this album?
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I jumped in right after Youth Gune Wild.
I had a friend make a mixtape this for me. Actually,
when we when we listened to the tracks like one
by one, yeah, I can tell you the exact spot
where I ran out of time and needed to go home,
and so he hit the stop button, uh huh and
handed me the tape and so like for me for
like six months. This album was seven and a half
songs long.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, what about you? What do you remember
about skid Row?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can remember slow dancing to I Remember You
and seeing the videos, especially eighteen in Life on MTV,
But it wasn't an album that I owned. So you
were You're better off with seven and a half songs
than I was at the time.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. This was a staple in
my car, like this was, I mean, doctor feel Good,
New Jersey, skid Row, you know, fifty one fifty pop
one out, put one in, listen to the whole thing.
I'm good to go. So I saw skid Row open
for bon Jovi in nineteen eighty nine until Oklahoma with
my entire high school. It was the biggest single event
to come to tell Oklahoma in nineteen eighty nine. Right,
so they open for bon Jovi, they put on a
great show, and the argument at school the next day
was who is better skid Row or bon Jovi? And
bon Jovi at the time was, I mean, a giant
among teenage music listeners at the time.
Speaker 1: All right, so how about we jump in and start
talking about the history of the band. Let's do it, Okay,
our story begins in nineteen seventy one, when a young
seven year old Dave Sabo says to a young seven
year old John bon Jovi, I'm going to be a
rock star someday. So they John bon Jovi and Dave
the Snake Sabo make an agreement at seven years old
that they are going to become rock stars, and they
agree that if either one of them becomes famous before
the other one, that that famous one will help the
other one become famous.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I've heard this story as well. Right, this
is a very interesting historical piece of skid row. I
do think it's interesting that Dave Sabo, while he didn't
play on bon Jovi's first album, he did tour with
them a little bit as bon Jovi to support Runaway, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before they brought Richie Sambora in, Dave was the guitarist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, these bands have been tied
together since nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1: So back in seventy one, whenever seven year old John
bon Jovi and seven year old Dave Sabo are exchanging
their promises to make each other famous. About this same time,
the parents of a kid named Sebastian Burke are living
in the Bahamas, and they hire a Bahama woman to
come and babysit. They return home early to find this
Bahama woman with two of her friends dancing around young
Sebastian Burke's crib, speaking incantations and casting what appeared to
be spells over the little baby.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. He would go on to change his name,
of course, to Sebastian Bach, because why wouldn't you if
it was that close, name yourself after one of the
you know, the most famous composers of all time. But
do you know where the name Sebastian came from.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not Sebastian the Crab.
Speaker 1: No, it's not Sebastian the Crab. That was I mean,
that was about the time this kid road the album
came back. It wasn't that. No, So to see, the
lead singer for The Love and Spoonful was a guy
named John Sebastian. And as it turns out, Sebastian Bach's
dad was a huge fan and somehow lucked into meeting
John Sebastian at some point, and they went up to
the top of a hill and smoked a dooby together,
and he said, someday I'm gonna name my kid after you.
And he held true to that promise.
Speaker 2: Wow, how about that? That's cool? Yeah, great story. And
Sebastian's a cool I mean, that's a cool rock name.
You know, it's it's a cool name.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. When Sebastian was a little bit older, about nineteen
seventy five, he's walking with his dad down the boardwalk
and they see something that grabs his attention as a
little what seven six seven year old kid. It's these
kind of scary, dark haired creatures with white faces and
frightening visages on their face. And he says, dad, what
is that? And his dad says, son, that's Kiss. And
so from a very early age, Sebastian Bach becomes a
huge Kiss fan, and unfortunately a few years later his
parents decided to get a divorce. And it is it
is the music of Kiss and his love for comic books,
including Batman and the Incredible Hulk, that get him through
that troubling time. And then a few years after their divorce,
his dad shows back up. It's the first time and
the last time their family will be together as one again,
and it is to go and see a Kiss concert.
And so they're all right in together, they're listening to
music they're seeing all of these people around when they
get to the concert area, who are of course dressed
up like the demon and the cat and all of
the others, and taking pictures with all of them. And
when they get inside, their seats are in the nose
plead sections, and Sebastian says, I don't even care. I'm
just so happy that my family is together again. And
then at this moment, after the intro show is over
and they start doing the introduction for kiss and every
all the lights go out, he suddenly is snatched up
and someone is running with him, and he realizes it's
his dad, And so at the moment that everybody's looking
at the stage anticipating what's going to happen, his dad
has grabbed him, jumped over the wall and runs all
the way to the front row, puts Sebastian on his shoulders,
and he gets to watch the entire his show from
his dad's shoulders on the front row. And a rock
star is born.
Speaker 2: That is awesome. That is such a cool story man.
Speaker 1: At some point, Ace freely throws a styrofoam cup that
he drank some water or something in the into the
crowd and Sebastian catches it and keeps it for years afterwards.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's cool. Have you ever caught anything at a
concert like that?
Speaker 1: No. I can remember going to a Smashing Pumpkins concert
and we did the same thing. Like, we had friends
who had front row tickets, and so we kind of
swapped back and forth with them. And when we went
to the front row, this girl that I was with
must have been incredibly enticing to Billy Corrigan because he
called her up on stage.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I didn't get something thrown to me. I guess something
taken away.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 1: So Sebastian had grown up with his mom saying all
the time sang with her sisters, and he enjoyed saying
since before he could remember any other memories. And they
would have him stand at the table and sing and
it was all very exciting. And then one day he
was singing and one of his buddies is like, hey,
you should come join the choir with me. He's like,
uh okay, why, he goes, well, number one, because if
I bring you, they give me extra money. And number two,
they will pay you to come sing in the choir.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's like, pay to sing? Yeah, sure, I'll do that, right,
So he goes to the audition for the choir master
who's out there paying its choir, and he's like, all right, Sebastian,
let's work up up the piano scale. Let's see what
your range is. And basically he just kept going up
and up, and Sebastian kept matching every single note until
he reached the end of the piano.
Speaker 2: I remember this part in the book. And Sebastian said
to the instructor, well, did I make the choir? And
the instructor said, Sebastian, you are the choir. Sebastian has
such a talent that it was instantly recognized by his
music teacher.
Speaker 1: Right, there is no question about this guy's vocal abilities,
all right. So third component of our band is a
gentleman named Rachel Bolan. So Rachel's not his real name.
His real name is James Richard Southworth, but he changed
his name. Rachel is a combination of his brother's name
Richard and his grandfather's name Manuel. I don't really know
how you get Rachel out of that, but okay, yeah,
Bolan is after the t Rex lead singer Mark Bolan. Okay, cool, Okay.
Speaker 2: Gidro formed in nineteen eighty six and Tom's River, New Jersey,
when guitarist Dave Sabo met bassist Rachel Bolan at the
local guitar store that Dave Saba was working at.
Speaker 1: Dave Sabo is working in a guitar store, right, and
Rachel Bolan walks in with a pink leather coat and
a red beret and and Dave Sabo says, I will
never forget that moment. He looked like a freaking star.
I just had to strike up a conversation and it
worked out very well. They realized, hey, we need to
get together, and so they started getting together. They started
writing stuff together. They came from different backgrounds. Sabo had
more Judas Priests and Iron Maiden influences, while Rachel's roots
were in the Ramones, but they also had a common
love for Van Halen.
Speaker 2: And kiss nice, okay cool.
Speaker 1: Dave Sabo and Rachel bowl and get together the writing
music together. Rachel says, hey, I got another guy who
can play guitar with us. His name is Scottie Hill.
And then they say, oh yeah, and we've got this
other guy who will be a perfect drummer. And then
Dave says, no, I think that guy just sent a
jail for stabbing somebody. Oh okay, well, then maybe we
should go with Rabbi Fuso, who who was in a
Rush tribute band. Now we're talking about a drummer in
a Rush tribute band, right. I can't tell you the
quality of the band, but if you're covering Rush songs
as a drummer, you must be good. I mean you,
you just have to be because Neil Pert it was
like the godfather of all drumming. And to this day,
Rabbifuso is the one guy who's still friends with all
of the members of the band, but he's also said
I will not play with skid Row again unless Sebastian
Bach is the one singing with us.
Speaker 2: Okay. I wanted to touch just a little bit on.
There's a band called Kid Wicked who was traveling throughout
Canada and they ended up in Petersborough where they met
a thirteen year old boy named Sebastian Bach. They were
looking for a lead singer, and even though he was
only thirteen years old and surrounded by twenty to thirty
year olds, he laid out this rock and roll scream
that they heard and said that kid, that's the one.
We need him to be our lead singer. And they're like,
he's thirteen years old. I don't care. He needs to
be our lead singer. So his father would not let
him go run around with his band, but he did
agree to let Sebastian go live in Toronto with an
aunt so that he could join the band and tour
with the band.
Speaker 1: I get the impression that Sebastian's dad was a pretty
pretty cool guy. Maybe a little too cool, but a
pretty cool guy. He was an art teacher and you know,
a full on sixties hippie, but he was an interesting cat. Yeah.
So the original singer, obviously for skid Row is not
Sebastian bot Yeah.
Speaker 2: I really found this interesting because this guy named Matt
Fallon was their original lead singer. He toured with skid
Row while opening for bon Jovi on the Slippery When
Wet tour. It's not like this guy can't sing or
didn't have any chops at all. There's demos out there
of him singing these beloved skid Row songs. We'll touch
on that here in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: J Matt Fallen is the lead singer of the band
they're feeling. Skid Row is feeling like they're pretty tight
at this point, and at this point bon Jovi is famous.
So once you know, I mean, John had said, you know,
I'm not I have not forgotten my promise at seven
years old. I will stick to it. You guys just
got to be tight before I'm gonna make him pitch,
because I don't want it to fail. And they had
gotten pretty tight with Matt Fallen, and so at that point,
bon Jovi is having a little backyard barbecue and one
of the attendees is his manager, a guy named Doc McGhee,
who you might have heard of, and if you haven't,
then I'll just tell you. He was the manager of
like every major metal band in the eighties. I mean,
we're talking what we get. We had, Skidro, Motley Crue,
bon Jovi. I think he was managing Ozzie. I think
he was managing the Scorpions he's got. You've heard of
the Moscow Music Piece Festival. That was him, And albeit
it was because he was in trouble with drugs and
probably put this concert on as a way to help
him get out of that trouble, but that that be
that as it may he was a big hitter at
the moment, right, he definitely was. And so Jon bon
Jovi invites Dave Stabo to come over to his house
for this backyard barbecue with Doc McGee, and so as
soon as he gets him alone, Dave Sabo just starts
giving him his whole pitch of how they're going to
be a great band and they're going to take over
the world and all of these songs that they got
and they can't wait, and everybody's so driven in all
of this, and he gives him the probably ten minute
long spiel, at the end of which Doc McGee says,
all right, you want to go get me a beer
or something. But it worked out well. Skid Row starts
opening up for bon Jovi, but Doc McGee says, you
know what, your lead singer is not as driven as
the rest of you guys. You need to get rid
of him.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And so that's I mean, geez, that's huge. I mean,
you're right there, you think, and it's all about to happen,
and they say get rid of your front man. I mean,
it's not like, you know, change out the bassists. This
is the guy singing all the songs and this is
the face of the band at the moment, right.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's and they're touring with bon Jovi. They're
on the Slibrity when we concert tour.
Speaker 1: They they followed Doc McGee's advice. They got rid of
Matt Fallon. They started auditioning other people and they couldn't
find anybody. So they're auditioning singer after singer after singer,
and they can't find anybody that they think is the
right fit for the band until they get a call
from John bon Jovi's parents. They had been to the
wedding of a photographer named Mark Weiss, who there's a
fantastic podcast out there done by Frank Hannon. He's recently
done interview with Mark Wise. He's a photographer for all
of the major bands that you and I love from
the seventies and eighties, all the metal bands, but be
Thatt as May. At some point he got married. John
bon Jovi's parents went to the wedding, and in addition
to them, a few other folks that you might have
heard of, Zach Wilde, Kevin Dubrow of Quiet Riot, several
of the members of Twisted Sister. All of these guys
are there because hey, he's a heavy metal photographer, right,
And they happen to have a wedding singer there who
is blowing everybody's mind, a young guy named Sebastian Bach.
Speaker 2: Wow, they heard Sebastian at a wedding, the wedding singer.
He's the wedding singer, of course, yes.
Speaker 1: So they call up they call up the guys and
they're like, hey, we think we got a guy who
might be perfect for you. But he's only nineteen years old. What, okay, whatever, Yeah, okay,
if he's that good, No, he's that good. So they
pool their money. I mean they've they've got nothing, they've
gotten no record contract, they've got nothing, right, they pooled
their money together and they fly this guy out. So,
I mean, just imagine this, all right, this is an
unfamous nobody knows these guys. They're sitting in Dave Sabo's
kitchen and they're just waiting because they're just anticipating with
I mean, they're just in a New Jersey little house,
right right, right, and so they sent Scott Hill to
go pick him up from the airport. They're all just
waiting to see what's gonna happen there with them is
Dave's mom, who they all affectionately referred to as Missus
Snake is Snake, and they're just like, oh, this is
We just want this to work. We just want this
to work. And so in walks this guy who's so tall,
he's got a duck under the doorway. As he walks
in and in his Canadian accent with you know these
beautiful high cheek bones, says, dudes, I've got a ten
inch What a fantastic intro. How pet about the way
the rest of that band's career was going to go? Right?
So when they first had him sing, he literally he
sang so high that they had to like go, okay, dude,
that's just too high. I mean, you're gonna have to
rein it back in a little bit. But once they did,
it was like, uh, he's he's got the perfect voice.
And then somebody else was like, yeah, but he's obnoxious
and loud, and they said, yeah, but he's a front man, right,
that's what that's the way they're supposed to be. So
they decide, all right, that's what we'll do. And that
night they went to a bar, they get they start
drinking together. They know this is going to be a thing.
They even sang eighteen in life that first night in
some dive bar stage. Wow, terrible, But Rachel Bowen announces
from the stage, this is our new lead singer. And
then Sebastian Bach gets completely blitzed and almost gets in
a fight, but he's so drunk he misses his punch
by about a foot falls over to the floor. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, that obnoxious and loud thing will only
get magnified with fame and riches.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, So, after they've got their lineup and they present
themselves to bon Jovi, they sign with Richie Sambora and
John bon Jovi's publishing company called Underground. But they don't
realize at the time that they're all also giving up
most of the royalties they get, which I mean that's
all that a band has whenever they're making music, is
the royalties. Not only do they not get the money
that like their record producers are going to make, they
give most of what they would be making over to
John bon Jovi and Richie sambor As I understood it,
Richie sambor ended up giving a lot of it back
to him, but John bon Jovi, probably because of his
relationship with Sebastian Bach said, f you, I'm keeping the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. There's some interesting things that
Sebastian said about John bon Jovi from the stage. I
believe he called him John go blow me or something
like that.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So they spend a year fine tuning
their act. I mentioned this last time. At the point
that Sebastian Bach joined the band, he was with VO
five and they were opening for Motley Crue during the Girls,
Girls Girls tour.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: He had told Nikki six, I'm going to be a
rock star. And I don't know if you remember it,
but about five years ago I kicked the door open
so that we could get in.
Speaker 2: Hey, there's one story that I wanted to tell that
we kind of blew past. When they were first recruiting
Sebastian Bach to come play for the band, one of
the things that they did was they sent him a
tape of their songs, most of the songs on this album.
So they had this album kind of ready. They had
been playing it live, they had been touring with bon Jovi.
I mean, they had these songs. These are great rock songs.
Still needed a singer to put it over the top,
but they sent the tape to him and when Sebastian listened,
but the one song that stuck out to him was
a song called Youth Gun Wild, and Sebastian's like, you
know what, that's a song that I can do something with.
He said, that was the song that made me join
the band, which is so appropriate because it's such a
great rock anthem. It's their first single, it's what put
him on the map. But that's the song that recruited
Sebastian to the band.
Speaker 1: So yeah. So Rachel Bolin and Dave Sabo wrote almost
all of the songs on this debut album. They end
up hooking up with a guy to produce the album
named Michael Wagner. He's worked with Motley Crue, with Great White,
with Striper Poison, Alice Cooper, Extreme Mega Death, and the
one that he produced right before this album was Saigon
Kick by Sigon Kick. And I owned that album and
I probably haven't thought about that band for that album
in about thirty five years. I was just like, what,
Oh wow, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Even that song. Love is on the Way has got
album right.
Speaker 1: That's why I bought the tape.
Speaker 2: You ready to dive into the track listing?
Speaker 1: D Yeah, I'm ready. Let's jump into the album.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: The first song on the album.
Speaker 3: Is Big gun.
Speaker 1: Man. When he comes in with those lyrics, you're listening
to this album for the first time and you're just like,
holy crap, and he's not even done anything awesome yet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Vocally, the first two songs on the album,
he stays pretty just straight line rock voice. So this song,
this song comes on strong, right. It's a good leadoff
track for the album. Good rocker. Big Guns Blowing Me Away.
This is clearly about breasts Christ's rest.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: She's got big guns pointed at my heart. Uh huh,
bang bang shoot me like a firing squad, big guns.
She blew me away and I went down in flames.
Speaker 1: Well, but see she was she was just a ballerina
on a subway train, stiletto hills in a candy cane.
Now I'm wondering if maybe this was a lady of
the night, as they like to say, hot on the
tail of a social call. There's only really one thing
that could possibly mean. So there were you like.
Speaker 2: Is a battle and love is war? Yeah, there's a
part in this song where he says, I'm doing time
as a backseat Romeo play solitaire with my hands in
the air another night and no bullets to spare. That's
my favorite part of the whole song right there.
Speaker 1: And what do you think that means, Jason?
Speaker 2: I think she's got big guns and they're pointed out
your heart.
Speaker 1: Maybe not at the moment that he's playing solitaire, though.
Speaker 2: When I went to the concert in nineteen eighty nine
when they opened for bon Jovi, this was on the
concert t shirts, right it said it had a girl
and a big like a six shooter, and it said
big guns.
Speaker 1: So this one, I mean, it's a great song. It's
a good album beginning song, a good pumping song that
had better ones on the album. Why do you think
they started with this one?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I like it. It has a lot
of energy. It starts off with attitude. You know, it's
a good he wrote song. This was the song that
they closed their set list with during that bon Jovi
New Jersey tour.
Speaker 1: So this is the only song on the album that
lists Scottie Hill, Rachel Bowl and Dave Sabo and Rob
Afuso on it. Most of them are just by Bolin
or Bolin and Sabo. This is the only one that
has all of the members of the band except for
Sebastian Mott.
Speaker 2: I like this one.
Speaker 1: This is a good one.
Speaker 2: Thumbs up.
Speaker 1: It's mid range for me. Okay, I'll give it a
so so all right, sounds good? All right. Next one
is Sweet Little Sister.
Speaker 2: I think this is the first song that on the
album that Sebastian starts to demonstrate his talent. Vocals are
strong on this one. He's he's rolling fast through a
lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: When he sings that alligator and he pulls out the gator. Yeah, yeah,
you're getting a taste of what's to come.
Speaker 2: He's rolling that. I don't know what they call it,
vibrato or whatever.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Okay. Here's something that I know is when I looked
at the lyrics on this song, right first line, the
opening line this song, she blew my mind behind the
record machine. She was a bit of trouble called a
subway queen right right. So I don't know why that
stands out of my brain, but just that term record
machine that makes me immediately think of the song Jump
by Van Halen.
Speaker 1: Totally yeah. I mean, where else do you hear?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Got my back against the record machine.
Speaker 2: And these guys had already admitted that they were big
Van Halen fans.
Speaker 1: Right. It was one of two bands that Rachel Bowlin
and Dave Sabo both liked, which Kiss and Van Halen.
I bet it is, I bet, I bet it is
a sideways glance to jump.
Speaker 2: Sweet Okay, cool, I can dig that. I like this
song too. I'm two for two. These are great solid
eighties hair metal rockers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a good I mean it's a good
pumping one. I like this one a little bit better
than the first one. I really like that you're starting
to hear his vibrado as he's singing out alligator yep.
Speaker 2: Still nothing super fancy yet vocally, but hang on because it's.
Speaker 1: Coming tight lipped now, but she sinks ships later.
Speaker 2: I love that part in the song when he's saying
that I love it okay. So that brings us to
song number three, a song called Can't Stand the Heartache.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I love this song. I think this could have been
a hit. I've always loved the vocals on this song.
He starts to really show off his talent this song
got airplay on my local radio station.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is They're doing a nice build. This is
better than the first two songs. They just keep getting better.
And that chorus that they come in with that harmony
that they do perfect. Then they explode with the guitars.
Yeah that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a great song, man, I really enjoy
this song. I want to point out something on this song. Okay,
so I've mentioned that I think the vocals are awesome,
but there's a part in the song during the chorus
where he says, can't stand the heartache, so bleeds the
red red rose time heals a broken heart. But that's
just the way it goes, Okay, yep, So throughout the
song at the beginning, the way he says goes is
sort of low level. Then the next time through the
chorus it's like medium, and then third time through it's
like hi, he starts, he hits that goes really hard,
and then the last time he hits it's a it's
like gows. It's it's really great and I can't imitate it,
but let's play it right here. I just think it's
really cool. I just think that that one note is
awesome with his voice.
Speaker 1: Fantastic build, and the chorus of this is such a hook.
I mean, the melody that they've got on the chorus
on this song totally makes the song. It is fantastic,
one of the best on the album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great pop metal right here? All right. The next
song on the album after Can't Stand the Heartache, This
song is called Piece of Me.
Speaker 1: Nice bassline. It's almost a heavy metal version of the
Mission Impossible theme.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, cool, all right, d This song is
about getting into a fight, is it? I think? So?
Speaker 1: You got your heels? Are you looking pretty?
Speaker 2: This is the song that Sebastian was singing when he
got hit in the head with that stray object in
that concert they're opening for Aerosmith.
Speaker 1: Are we talking about the infamous beer bottle incident? Yes? Yes,
oh yeah. Do we want to tell that story now?
Speaker 2: Might as well? Yeah, sure, during the Piece of Me
part of that set.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, first, let's talk about the song. So the
song I love it, I just I love it. Okay,
You've got kind of a common thread on the meaning
and all of these songs. It's really pretty much about
hooking up with these dirty, nasty girls and and that's
that's great. It's all about rock and roll, and what's
rock and roll about? But getting the girls. But I
just love I love the bassline that Nana Nana man
man o, man o mano, and then you break off
and you get piece of Me. I love the break
I love the dynamics of this one. It's it's really
really solid and it's a really short song. I mean
this song is like less than three minutes long. It's
a super quick song, but theyve it's tight. It's a good, tight,
driven rock song. I really enjoy the video. You talk
about the video real quick.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: So the video is is a mix of concert footage
of the band, mostly close ups of their faces singing
or maybe uh, you know, a picture of Rachel Bolan's
button his tight white jeans while he's playing that bassline.
But it's intermixed with this the these cops arresting all
of these people who appear to be concertgoers.
Speaker 2: I did read an article that Sebastian talking about how
he doesn't get credit for this song. But Rachel Bolan
was messing around with the bassline, and Sebastian's like, yeah, man,
that's really good, and just like you like this one,
and it was the bomboom boom boom bom boom boom
boom boom, and that's what started the build of the song,
and through Sebastian's encouragement, basically they built that song on
that baseline. According to Sebastian, Right.
Speaker 1: So you see guys getting thrown against the ground, you
see girls getting thrown against the police cars. They're not
discriminatory on how they abuse the people who are getting rested.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure right, how dare you go to a concert?
I'm gonna bust your button?
Speaker 1: And so interestingly that this video would be about getting
arrested because December twenty seventh, nineteen eighty nine, they are
performing this song in Springfield, Massachusetts, and suddenly Sebastian Bach
feels something to graze his head and then sees this
red substance coming down over his eyes. She's like, why
would somebody throw a can of tomato juice at me?
As it turned out it was a beer bottle and
that was blood coming down into his face. And once
he realized that, he looked out in the crowd and
started screaming who did that? Who threw that? And some
guy was giving him the California Howdy with both hands,
and he was like, he was like, I'm coming after
you want a piece of me? And that's like, I mean,
of course that's the song that they're playing. But before
he dives in to start wailing on this dude, he
decides to throw the beer bottle back, which was a horrible.
Speaker 2: Decision, yeah, because he's not a major league pitcher, So
he misses his target and it just to hit a
girl right in the face.
Speaker 1: A fourteen year old girl. Yeah, and she ends up
getting one hundred and twenty five stitches in her face.
And just from the scuffle. I don't think anybody actually
knew what had happened to the girl at the time,
you know, other than the people she was associated with.
But just because of the fight that broke out, Doc
McGee was getting him out of there quick, getting him
on the road quick. But before they could get out
of Massachusetts, the Massachusetts PD pulled over the van, took
Sebastian back out and said you're going to jail, buddy.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's really Sebastian continued to make poor decisions. He
was kind of his own worst enemy. I mean, he's
definitely his own worst enemy throughout his entire time with
his band. This decision was the worst of the bunch.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a T shirt incident that was pretty close.
Speaker 2: That was second worst. This was a first horse.
Speaker 1: I guess no one was physically injured with a T
shirt incident, but yes, it's I mean, the guy. The
guy is an amazing physical specimen. He looks there's a
picture him on the cover of the book that you
gave me that has him with you know, he's it's
him from the eighties and he's got his arms up
in the air and no shirt on, and he's kind of,
you know, showing off the physique a little bit. Caleb
was like, dude, Dad, why do you why do you
have that book? That's gross? And I was like, it's
just it's just the singer of the eighteen in line
or no, it's just the singer of I Remember You.
And he goes, a girl sang that song and no, dude,
that's not a girl. He's like, well, but that's a girl.
I'm like, no, that's not a girl. Oh man, he goes,
that's a guy. That's even more gross, dad, But yeah, he,
I mean, one of the most outstanding voices in all
of rock history, amazing facial structure, amazing physical stature and build,
and I mean, how do you how do you screw
all that up?
Speaker 2: He screwed it all up. And you're exactly right. He's
everything you look for in a lead front man. Amazing voice,
great looking, dude, young, he fits the attitude of the band.
He's he's the perfect fit, except he makes stupid decisions
and he's obnoxious, and he's he just rubs everybody around
him the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is very, very impulsive, very impulsive.
Speaker 2: In his defense, yeah, he is twenty one.
Speaker 1: Years old, right, Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: And I didn't have that kind of power, influence, money
at twenty one, and thank goodness I didn't.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I certainly made plenty of stupid decisions
without having all the drugs, women and money that I
could ever want. Right Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Piece of Me is their fourth single off the album.
It's their fourth and final single. This was released. I
couldn't really find a date on this, but in my
memory it's February of nineteen nineties, kind of early nineteen nineties,
the last single. Have you ever heard the Axel Rose
version of this song? No, but yeah, so Axel Rose
actually sings the version of this song. It's pretty cool
that hear Axel sing a skid Row song. I don't know. Yeah,
this was a big hit on MTV like Headbanger's Ball
it was. It was a big hit. Cool, Yes, all right,
we're moving on to one of the big hitters.
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, So we've had a study build. I'd put
Piece of Me right there with Can't Stand the Heart
egch both solid, just keeps getting better, keeps getting better
as the A side plays on.
Speaker 2: Are ramping up. The next song on the album is
eighteen in Life.
Speaker 1: We've got a different beginning here. This is slow and
sweet and mysterious and dark. We're not talking about hooking
up with girls, and we're not talking about getting in fights.
Oh listen to that voice Stone, Oh there they go
big hitting now.
Speaker 2: This is a beautiful rock song, a beautiful rock song.
Speaker 1: It's got an awesome mix of the ballad and the
rock pumping in your face too for the intro to
the chorus, and then you've got a really you get
some deep lyrics here. And this isn't Ricky is based
up on a story that Dave Sabo had read that
actually involved a kid who shot his friend didn't realize
you said, he didn't know the gun was loaded and
killed his friend and got life in prison. And of
course the video on this has got these you know,
disenfranchised youth spray painting and tearing up the lapidated buildings
and then they're shooting the shooting bottles with the gun.
It's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, So this reached number four on the Hot
one hundred. This was their second single release June sixteenth,
nineteen eighty nine. This is their biggest hit. But there's
two parts in the song that really set it apart
from everything else. Okay, So there's a part in the
song as that it builds towards the guitar solo, and
Sebastian sings that child blew a child away.
Speaker 1: Most moving line on the whole album.
Speaker 2: His voice to the guitar solo. It's so sad and powerful.
It's just chilling. I love it. The second part of
the song that blows me away are his straight up
screams at the end of the song. This is Sebastian
really demonstrating his talent and how that sets him apart
from everybody else. Yeah, when you compare that line to
Matt Fallon's line.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we may have some people listening who are
still skid Row fans now, but I gotta say, from
my perspective, skid Row without Sebastian Bach is not skid Row.
Speaker 2: No. No, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'm gonna
defend the band. Okay, there's a lot of people say
they're trash without Sebastian. Well, they they wrote these great
rock songs, so they deserve credit for that. I mean,
you know, Dave Sabo and Rachel Bollen wrote eighteen in Life.
That's a great rock song, but Sebastian is what took
them over the top. And I wish they could put
their differences aside and reform the loved lineup of skid
Row to perform these songs again. I had this poster, Okay,
So I had this one of these really cool record
stores in town, and they would give away like these
old posters that they didn't want anymore. So I have
upstairs of my attic right now a humongous picture of
the eighteen in Life single as a poster.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's something I thought was interesting. In April of
twenty fifteen, they had a new singer named Tony Harnell.
They re recorded eighteen in Life and re released it
as a free download on the band's website. Okay, this
is the only studio recording they had with him on vocals,
and it was a it was a it was a
good effort. Okay, But nobody has Sebastian's voice right, and
it's not his fault. It's just the reality of life.
Only Sebastian can sing this song. Eighteen in Life was
named the sixtieth Best Hard Rock Song of All Time
by v H one and was certified gold on September
thirteenth and nineteen eighty nine. Love this song. It's iconic eighties.
The vocals blow me away every single time.
Speaker 1: Yep, we are peaking on side one.
Speaker 2: All right, you're done with eighteen in Life. Yeah, moving
on to Rattle Snake Shake.
Speaker 1: Yes, Wait a minute, wait a minute, we already covered
this song. Oh no, so the bold they both sang
the same song. No, no, they didn't, different song, same title,
even though they came out at almost exactly the same time.
Speaker 2: This had to have been somebody mentioned to somebody that Hey,
I'm working on this song called Rattlesnake Shake. Oh, that's
kind of a cool title, and they all kind of
went off and ran with it, and this is what
they came up with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a good intro line and it seems
like it's gonna have hope and I can totally see
strippers playing this song for themselves. But this is the
low point on the album for me. I mean, we had,
we had pretty good, even better, really good, really good
blow in my mind and total disappointment. Rattlesnake Shake. Okay,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: No, I like this one. I mean, you know, I'm
trying not to gush on every song on this album.
I like every song. The problem with this song is
it falls between eighteen in Life and Youth Gone Wild
and it is a step down and it does get
a little hokey when he's like, I've got a friend
I want to introduce you to. Right that, I mean
he steps into poison level lyrics right there. Okay, Oh yeah,
I like it.
Speaker 1: Though I like it, I think even this had been
in between Big Guns and Sweet Little Sister, I would
still think it was the low point in the album.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm
not fast forwarding this song. This is not a skipper
to me. I still like it. It does get a
little hokey for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd be flipping the tape over and hitting rewind.
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost time to do that. I like this
the lyric. I don't know why this lyric cracks me up,
but he says tricky Little Vicky walks along South Street.
She learned her French from the boys that she'd meet.
I gotta laugh when I hear them say she's a
sweet little cheese when the cat's away.
Speaker 1: Sweet little cheese, Sweet.
Speaker 2: Little cheese when the cat's away.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 2: I don't either.
Speaker 1: All Right, we ready to move on.
Speaker 2: Well, you're lost in search of passion, but Prince Charming
ain't in fashion. So yeah, stop your tape, kick it out,
flip it over.
Speaker 1: It rewinds. Since she didn't listen to all.
Speaker 2: Of starting off side too, we have you've gone wild?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they've redeemed themselves with that first. Yeah.
This is a great song.
Speaker 2: This is a rock anthem. This is like welcome to
the juggle.
Speaker 1: Mean it is. It's You've got the disenfranchised youth who
are finding their song to let their let their pain speak.
You know, we're we're tired of your crap. We're gonna
go be ourselves. That that's what the song is all about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is what I like about this song.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: This is a grab you by the shirt, shake you around,
and say we are the youth gone wild. Right, and
you've got that street gang like backing vocals, like where
they're shouting. It's a group of them saying we are
the youth gone wild. And then you match that with
Sebastian's killer vocals. Again, I love it. It's a fist
pumper at the highest degree.
Speaker 1: You're you're in the crowd and you're pumping your fist
and you're singing along with in almost a chant.
Speaker 2: Yes. And we talked earlier about this is the song
that made Sebastian decided to join skid Row. When he
was reading the lyrics and kind of learning the tape
that they had sent to him, he talked about how
the first line, since I was born, they couldn't hold
me down. Another misfit kid, another burned out town. He
said he felt like that that was speaking into his life.
So He really identified with those lyrics we are the
Youth Gone Wild. He even talks about how he was
the first believer in this song. He got a tattoo
that said Youth Gone Wild before they had a manager,
before they had a record deal, before they had anything.
Speaker 1: This has the Motley Crue Live Wire feel to me,
where you're in the crowd, you're pumping your fist, you're
singing along, You're like in the chant fully invested, good,
good music on this one.
Speaker 2: So Sebastian said that I remember playing Youth with the guys,
and when we got to the middle part where we
do the chorus with just the drums and the vocals,
I sang the entire thing in one breath and they
all were blown away. They couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Very cool, good thing. He's so humble.
Speaker 2: Sebastian loves him some Sebastian like, I said, okay, so well,
they were working on this song. They were discussing how
good the song was, what they thought of it, what
they thought of the other songs. He said, hey, man,
do you think we'll ever go gold? Could you just
imagine that? And Dave Saba was like, I don't know, man,
that'd be crazy and once that album came out, he said,
it took about two weeks for them to go gold. Yeah,
it's a great song, it is. It's an anchor song
for the album. So this is the song that put
him on the map. They they, I mean, they blasted
out of nowhere in January of eighty nine. I've got
a great quote here. It says this song, accompanied with
a vide announced the band as rock's newest bad boys.
The CD underside of the poppy, winger Warrant style hard
rock that had started to dominate the musical landscape. This
is more guns n' Roses than Poison Warrant, bon JOONI even.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean skid Row, even with this album,
which is probably the poppiest of the albums that they had,
is much more edgy than the most popular metal groups
of the day. I mean even Motley, I think even
the Crew, They're more edgy in this particular moment. Yeah,
this is kind of the end. I mean, they became
kind of the poster child for hair metal at the
time that hair metal was about to go out of style.
Speaker 2: Some people have said that skid Row had unbelievably good
timing or unbelievably poor timing, but they hit that last
peak of hair metal before it died.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Sebastian kind of compares this song to Ozzy Osbourne's Paranoid
and Van Halen's Running with the Devil. It's their rock anthem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, humility all over the place, all right. Were ready
to move on?
Speaker 2: Yep, ready to move on?
Speaker 1: Next song on the album Here I Am. The song
starts off so well, the guitar is really awesome, and
then something happens about twenty seconds in. I can't just
tell you what it is. Maybe it's Sebastian Bach telling
me how tall he is. I don't know what it is,
but I just get like, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: It does get into those once again. They drift toward
the poison goofy lyrics. It's not the same grit you've
gone wild eighteen in live raw, amazing song.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, they've got a good melody to the chorus.
It's just I don't know what it is. I can't
I cannot put my finger on what it is about
this song that makes me just not want to listen
to it.
Speaker 2: I like it. It's not a skipper, but you get
lyrics for me, I better see a doctor because I
think I'm getting hooked on you. Right, that's a bad
pickup line.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible pickup.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How about this one here, I am close your eyes
and I'll be Superman. Just because the guitar is great
and Sebastian's voice is great, the lyrics are hokey, right, yeah,
I like it. It's not a skipper, like I said.
This is the song where my buddy was making a
dub tape for me and I had to go home
because you know, I was late for supper or whatever.
Right stop on the tape. It was in the middle
of the guitar solo on this song. So all right,
are we done with here?
Speaker 1: I am very very done with it. I would be
fast forwarding still at this moment. So I'm just glad
that all of these songs are pretty short.
Speaker 2: Okay. So that brings us to a song called making
a Mess.
Speaker 1: Good bet to this one. Good guitar riff, great voice,
fast again.
Speaker 2: All right, I've got a little tidbit on this song.
Speaker 1: So this is this is the only song on the
album that Sebastian bar gets writing credit on. It's him
and Rachel and Dave.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, interesting, what you got? Okay. A couple of
summers ago, Sebastian put out a notice on social media
and he said, listen, any members of skid Row that
want to come and join me on stage, you're invited.
Let's get together. I don't think anybody's going to accept Dave, Rachel, Scottie, Rob.
If you want to come and participate and come join
me on stage and we can do some old skid
Row stuff, that would be awesome, just let me know.
Open invitation. He got one acceptance from Rob Alfuso and
he came and performed Making a Mess with Sebastian on
September twenty fifth, twenty nineteen. I think that's cool. Good
for him. I mean, I really I'm not involved in
the daily lives of these guys, but it just seems
crazy that they could not put their differences aside to
even talk. I mean, they had so much success together,
it just never really makes any sense to me. So
interesting lyrics, the Lianguay says he lit up a smoke
and did some talking with the back of his hand. Right.
He says that in the song Yeah, during the concert,
he would always go up to some person on the
front row and and fain like he was smacking them.
Speaker 1: Classy yep. Then somebody threw a beer bottle at him.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they threw the beer bottle. I don't
have anything more. I just want to get onto I Remember.
Speaker 3: You, dude.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting the entire sticking album to get to
this song. Okay, the entire stinking album. Let's make it happen.
Tenth song on the album, I Remember You. So we
got a twelve string guitar, simple melody, two chords. Oh,
listen to their voice. Okay, so this is their ballad.
That's cool.
Speaker 2: Crab it come man.
Speaker 1: Oh, but of course they come in full throttle and
the dynamics are there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Back again to just the twelve string, A little bit
of drum in the back. I love it, love this
song so much.
Speaker 2: This is an amazing, amazing ballad. One of the best
of all time.
Speaker 1: I would. I could make an argument that this was
this is the best rock ballad of the eighties. I could.
The argument could be made. His falsetto his vibrato, his range,
Holy crap.
Speaker 2: It's sweet, it's passionate, it's lovely. I mean it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Love letters in the sand. I don't even know what
that means, and I still like tearing up.
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's so good man. And this is the
third sing released November eighteenth, of eighty nine. This was
the prom Song of the Year nominated by USA Today
for nineteen ninety. It was the prom Song of nineteen
ninety reach number six in the Hot one hundred. Here's
the funny story. I love this story. This was almost
not good enough for Rachel Bull and Dave Sabo. They
wrote this song, but they thought it was too wimpy, right,
So they were playing it and Sebastian's like, guys, this
is a great song, and they're like, eh, it's you know,
it's just a song, but we don't really think it's
good enough for our album. We're rock, you know, this
is too weeny stuff. And Sebastian's like, guys, I think
we need to put this on the album. They're like no, no.
So Doc McGee came to the studio one day and
Sebastian's like, Doc, you gotta hear the song. You gotta
hear the song, guys, we gotta play this song for Doc.
And Doc's like, all right, I'm listening. And so they
play it for him and Doc is laughing the whole time,
and so they don't know, is he laughing at us?
Is he laughing because it sucks? We don't really know.
And so they're like at the end they finished and
they're like, so, Doc, what's the deal? Why are you laughing?
He's like, ha ha, that's going on the album. This
song is covered by Carrie Underwood. Have you heard her
do it?
Speaker 1: Yes? I have, And I got to say she did
a good job with it. I mean, it takes some
Braska Jones to tackle a song like this, even if
you are Carrie Underwood, but she she did a great
job with it. It's it's not Celine Dion and ac DC.
Speaker 2: It's that is true. Selene Dion's attempted a CDC bad,
Carrie Underwood's attempt at skid Row good. Yeah, goes all
the way, she goes, balls to the wall and she
she's still not Sebastian Bach, but she gets close.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing, honestly, the only thing I don't
like about the video is that it's it's somebody out
at the concert that's recording what's going on? And then
right before it gets really good, they suddenly stop recording
and I'm like, wella, we don't get the rest what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.
Speaker 1: There's also a great YouTube video out there of I
don't remember what this girl's name is, but it's basically
like vocal coach listens to whatever and people recommend, hey,
you should go listen to this particular band. And she
had never seen nor heard skid Row do this. She's
from the UK, not that you know, skid Row is
unknown there, but she she didn't know. And so this
day what she listens to is a live performance of
this one where he's going all over the place and
he's building up the crowd and talking and I mean,
of course, our first impression is like, oh, well he's
quite the physical specimen, isn't he? But yeah, and then
he's of course, once he starts singing, she's sure her
mind is just blown. But my gosh, this song just
I mean, this song had to be sung by him.
Who else? Who else is going to sing this song?
Speaker 2: I've got another cool story about this song. Do you
know who Nora Jones is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: In an issue of Rolling Stone magazine, they asked Nora
Jones what song was it that made you want to
be a rock star? And she said I Remember You
by skid Row.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: She tells a story that she had a crush on
this guy in high school and he was kind of
a metal head and she made him a mixtape that
began with I Remember You, right do you? I mean,
I remember the days of making mixtapes as way of
here are My Feelings for You songs one through ten yep,
for sure, And it wasn't really her deal. She couldn't
really get into it, but she could do I Remember You,
and that's the one that spoke to our heart and
that's the one that made her want to be a singer.
Speaker 1: All right, I hate to do it, but we got
to listen to the end of the song. We got
to listen to what he does where he absolutely kills
at the end of the song. Here it is, everybody go,
absolutely freaking amazing.
Speaker 2: I could listen to this song a thousand times and
give me chills every time.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. I you know, I hadn't listened to the
song in probably years when we decided to do this,
and I can still remember putting it, putting on the
headphones and started my run and when this thing came on,
I like stopped and I just let the hair on
my arm stand up. Is so good.
Speaker 2: The vocals on this song is great. I think there's
a part in the song that it's not the big
crowd pleaser, but he said, it's the part where he says,
and I swear you'll never be lonely, and he drags
out that voice that note, he drags out that note. Yeah,
it's not a high one, but it's just it's just
a real satisfying.
Speaker 1: And it's right. It goes right into that lead, that
guitar lead, which, by the way, is another fantastic part
of the song. I mean, there are there are some
songs out there that you know the guitar lead note
by note as you're listening to it, Like if somebody said,
do the guitar lead for I Remember You could you
could probably sing it out because it's such a well
put together lead. And this is one of those songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were talking about those reaction videos. Yeah, I
saw one where a dad was showing it to his daughter,
who news aston Bach only as the old guy in
Gilmore Girls. Right, So he plays I Remember You the
video for her and she watches it, and you could
just see her eyeballs about pop out of her head.
And he's like, I didn't know this guy had pipes
like that. Huh she was, She was amazed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Gilmore Girls Guilty Pleasure.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, Gilmore Girls is a funny, clever, well written.
It's a great show man. It's a great show and if.
Speaker 3: You like.
Speaker 2: If you like our stuff, you'll like their stuff. Yeah, Okay,
are we done with I Remember You?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, couples move out to the center of the eyes.
All right. Last song on the album. It's called Midnight Tornado.
Speaker 1: I almost feel like they said, we can't finish with
a ballad. We got to put something in there that
kicks butt at the end, something that's tough and rough.
And I want to go back and listen to I
Remember You.
Speaker 2: I like this song. I like all the songs on
the album. This one got skipped more than anything else,
just because I was ready to get back to the beginning.
Big Guns. I like it. It's good. He has a
unbelievably great rock scream in the middle of this song.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, but this is almost to
me just an add on.
Speaker 2: Well it's it's on par with like Big Guns and
Sweet Little Sister, solid rocker, nothing spectacular other than that whale.
It's it's just a good song. I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they do just kind of throw back to
the when I'm feeling wicked and my blood is running hot.
Speaker 2: All right, I got one little tidbit on this song.
I had to dig deep for this one. You're ready
for this?
Speaker 1: I bet yes? Go ahead, okay.
Speaker 2: On October twentieth, twenty nineteen, Sebastian Bach had a show
in Dallas that had to be canceled due to a
midnight tornado.
Speaker 1: There is no joke, an actual tornado.
Speaker 2: An actual tornado that was going to interrupt the show
near midnight. Oh my bam. That is something you won't
hear on any other podcast.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's good. That's a nice touch, a
good way to finish off the album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good song. It's not the best song
on the album by any stretch, but I like it.
Speaker 1: So what's interesting is that while they're touring, right, so
they go on tour with bon Jovi and Aersmith while
this album is building, and even as they're opening for
bon Jovi on their nights off, they would go and
play clubs. I think that's pretty fantastic. Yeah, So they
would play for you know, seventy two thousand people in
Giant Stadium, and then they'd go play for twenty people
at Sam's Bar or whatever. This album peaked at number
six on the Billboard two hundred and certified five times platinum.
Speaker 2: This was recorded in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Producer was Michael Wagner.
As we said, I think they Sebastian talks about how
they sent him up there to record the album, probably
to keep them out of trouble.
Speaker 1: Is it time now to move to final judgment?
Speaker 2: It's time to move to final judgment.
Speaker 1: Two fantastic albums, Doctor feel Good and skid Row Jason.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know I say this every time. We don't
pick losers, we pick favorites. These were two absolute favorites.
I carried them everywhere. I listened to them all the time.
Here's where I'm coming down. Doctor feel Good is Motley
Crue's best album. The songs there on that album unforgettable,
Doctor feel Good, Fantastic, Kickstart my Heart, same Old Situation,
Don't Go Away Mad. It does have some junk songs
on There She Goes Down, not the best Time for Change,
not the best overall, though it's my favorite Motley Crue album.
Skid Row with the benefit once again of having their
debut album, You've got your entire life to come up
with ten great songs. Doctor Feel Good it's their fifth
or sixth studio album, so they get a little break there.
But the skid Row debut album pound for pound better
than Doctor Feel Good in my opinion. You have fantastic
rock anthem Youth Gone Wild. You have mind blowing song
eighteen in Life. You have maybe the greatest power ballad
song of all time, all led by Sebastian's amazing vocals.
You've got ten great rock songs. Skid Row better album,
Motley Crue, better catalog, more fun. I'd rather go see
them in concert, But album to album, I'm picking skid Row.
Speaker 1: I've said it before and I'll say it again. That's
your opinion. It's just that your opinion is wrong. When
we decided to compare these two, I totally thought that
I was gonna go with skid Row because Sebastian Bach's
voice is amazing. It is unquestionably better than Vince Neil's voice.
Vince Neil has a decent rock voice at best. He
doesn't have a mind blowingly like I can go sing
on Broadway and I can scream out rock songs. He
just doesn't have that kind of voice that Sebastian Bach does.
And so I thought, yeah, okay, so the skid row
is going to be a sure win. But I'm gonna
have to I'm just gonna have to go ahead and
disagree with you on this track listing thing. I mean,
if we look at the track listing, I'm not even
gonna I disagree with you. I don't think there's any
skipper on Doctor feel Good at all, but I'll just
throw out some of some of the best ones. All right,
You've got Doctor feel Good, You've got Kickstart my Heart.
Holy crap, what an incredible song you've got. Without you,
you've got same old situation, You've got Don't go away, Mad,
just go away. The only song on here that I
think is even close to a skipper is Time for
a Change. And that's like, you know you're done with
the album at that point. The whole album is good songs.
But even if you throw away the ones that you
might think are Skippers, You've still got one, two, three, four,
five killer songs on Doctor Feel Good. With skid Row,
you've got some decent songs with three four really great songs.
You've got eighteen in life, You've gone wild, I remember
you totally amazing, no question about it, and can't stand
the heartache. Those are the best ones on the album,
and the rest of them I could skip. I mean,
Sweetless Little Sisters, okay, but it's not one that's going
to fall into my rotation. But Doctor feel Good and
I had to ask, I'm like, why why is it?
Because they're both very very similar sounds, right, You've got
hard hitting guitars, you've got speedy leads on them. But
there's just something that's almost undefinable about Doctor Feel Good.
And I'm going to do my best to try to
to find it, even though I just said it was undefinable.
I think for Doctor Feel Good, Motley Cruze finally went
back and started pulling from the blues roots a little
bit more, and it was more rock than metal, and
they had more variation and better melodies and even I
and maybe it's just you know, Nicky six coming off
dying twice as the inspiration for this album. I got
to say there's more heart, more love, of more rock,
and more awesomeness in Doctor Feel Good, and it to
me is the clear winner. All Right, well, I'm not
even a Motley Crue fan. You're the Moley Krue fan.
Speaker 2: I am the Molly Krue fan. I love both of
these guys. I mean yeah, like I said, Motley Crue
catalog way out way of skid Row. But I'm taking
this one in a slight edge over Doctor field Good.
We want to hear from you guys, where do you
come down? Am I crazy? Taking the rookies out of
the gate against the goliath that Motley Crue was maybe
the most iconic rock band in the nineteen eighties? Are
you with d Are you with Me? Where do you Fall?
Doctor feel Good? Or skid Row?
Speaker 1: Okay, Next week we have a special edition of the
Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. We got to hang
out for a little while with a couple of guys
who have made a new movie that we really really like,
and we hope that you guys will too. It'll be
fun to listen to them tell their story of how
they were able to put together a movie for only
two thousand dollars and it's a great one, so tune
in for that one. We will be with the Nuevo
Brothers discussing their movie Canners.
Speaker 2: Can't wait for that. That's gonna be a lot of fun.
We had fun with them and hopefully you guys will
enjoy it as much as we did.
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It's been fun man. Yeah, love both of these albums.
In fact, I think I'm gonna go listen to them
right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 2: Holy crap, The Boys is so good.
Speaker 1: Man, here it comes.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is it big finish, It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He's missing one of his strings.
Speaker 2: Really in the video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a twelve string, but it's only a
goot eleven of the strings. One of the strings is missing.
Speaker 2: Wow.