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<v Speaker 1>It's night time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. During the break when many of you probably

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<v Speaker 2>figure I'm sitting here dreaming because I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>big production staff with me. Matter of fact, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any production staff with me. Rob is back there,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's dealing with all sorts of issues during the break.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me thank Jack from Somerset for calling in.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack was absolutely right. And Tom and Lynn, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>that Infinity car that you bought was somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 2>vicinity of thirty thousand dollars or thirty one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the MSRP on the car. Okay, Now, after

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<v Speaker 2>six years, the value of the car is reduced to

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent, So ten percent of your thirty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>car rounding the figure is three thousand dollars, and the

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<v Speaker 2>rate that is set by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts on

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<v Speaker 2>that Infinity car is point zero two five. That means

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<v Speaker 2>that in the sixth year and all ensuing years, you

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<v Speaker 2>will pay point zero two five on a value of

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<v Speaker 2>approximately three thousand dollars. You told me you pay seventy

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<v Speaker 2>two dollars. The calculation that I have is you should

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<v Speaker 2>pay seventy five. So I suspect that they have the

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<v Speaker 2>right number. So that is why Tom, you were paying

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two dollars a year in that car, and that

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<v Speaker 2>figure will remain at seventy two dollars as an excise

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<v Speaker 2>tax for however long you get that car registered in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>That solves that problem. Thanks to Jack for helping us

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<v Speaker 2>out on that. But I've been able to reconfirm with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I reconfirm under Chapter sixty A, Section one. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Jack said it was chapter fifty five, but oh he

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<v Speaker 2>may have said sixty eight. But it's Chapter sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>section one. Okay. Now, I have scoured the internet trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find that I was wrong on what Debbie said,

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<v Speaker 2>and that Debbie said the legislature increase. She come up

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<v Speaker 2>with some incredible numbers, sixty four percent, Debbie. I can

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<v Speaker 2>find nothing on the internet, and I've done a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>thorough search. Whilch suggests that anything other any agency other

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<v Speaker 2>than the Department of Public Utilities actually raises, and as

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<v Speaker 2>I explained to you, the utility companies, the energy companies

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<v Speaker 2>file notices of increases or in some cases decreases, but

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<v Speaker 2>most often increases, and then there's hearings, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Public Utilities approves either the increases as requested

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<v Speaker 2>or recruits improved, or rejects them or improves a part

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<v Speaker 2>of them. That is why it was our politicians, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, who in November were asleep at the switch. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>John Cesto in the Boston Globe wrote a piece that

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<v Speaker 2>I found which talked exactly about this. And again, part

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<v Speaker 2>of it then is created interplays with the with the weather.

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<v Speaker 2>If the weather had been relatively mild this winter, we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have had those increases. So that's the I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if actually I might have been mistaken whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was John or not, but there was an article. It

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<v Speaker 2>was mentioned that back in November the the increases occurred,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's the deal, simple as that. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>happy about it?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you happy about it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to get more people involved in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the governor was asleep at this switch.

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<v Speaker 2>Heir and I have you know, been fairly supportive of

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<v Speaker 2>the governor, but I think her people were asleep at

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<v Speaker 2>the switch, and someone should have said to her, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those increases could come back to bite us if we

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<v Speaker 2>have a bad winter. Maybe they didn't think the winters

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<v Speaker 2>ever knew they would to get bad again. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>thought that, you know, the climate change stuff was really

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<v Speaker 2>true and that we were always going to have warmer

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<v Speaker 2>and warmer winters. Not so back to the call as

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<v Speaker 2>we go. Let me see, you're going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Taunt and Mike you were first this hour

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<v Speaker 2>and nightside. We're continuing our conversation about the high cost

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<v Speaker 2>of energy this winter in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Mike, good evening, sir, Thank you very much

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<v Speaker 5>for taking a call.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Well, thank you for calling. I appreciate it. Go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, it's not my first time we talked before.

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<v Speaker 5>That's talking about a resource. I got a bill, but

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<v Speaker 5>usage was one hundred and eighty three dollars. That's how

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<v Speaker 5>much I use for that billing period. However, delivery and

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<v Speaker 5>service charge the total bill was going to be eight

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<v Speaker 5>hundred dollars. That's pretty steep for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a big build. There's a big bill. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Okay, I own a home.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife and I and my daughter. We own a

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<v Speaker 4>home here. It's a four bedroom home. And gassy and wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I follow this website.

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<v Speaker 5>If I'm permitted to say, it's citizens against Citizens against

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<v Speaker 5>ever source.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'm familiar with the group. That's a relatively recent

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<v Speaker 2>group that has organized. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, And.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, some of the things that I've read in it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe everything I read, but some of the

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<v Speaker 5>things on it, like the CEO of a company I

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<v Speaker 5>just mentioned is making like eighteen million dollars per year.

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<v Speaker 4>It must be nice to move up the ranks. But

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<v Speaker 4>holy smokes.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so for him and the shareholders, for hiving the shareholders,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess that's what they do. But I also understand

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<v Speaker 5>that if your property tax goes up, it may have

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<v Speaker 5>something to do to impact that billing.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, for for the utilities and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of us here in town are on six incomes.

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<v Speaker 4>We're retired, are retired from the state.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we're on fixed income and and whatnot. It's

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<v Speaker 5>got to be quite stressful on them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I don't completely agree with you. Here's my

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<v Speaker 2>question to you. Okay, yes, yes, people who are heads

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<v Speaker 2>of big companies tend to earn what you and I

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<v Speaker 2>would see as huge salaries. I have no disagreement with

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<v Speaker 2>your characterization of that. But people uh, in certain positions,

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know who are who are part of companies

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<v Speaker 2>that earn a lot of money, they tend to make

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<v Speaker 2>big salaries. We all, we all, we all understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyone who's going to say, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to cut my salary in half. Here's my question

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<v Speaker 2>to you. These rates are not imposed by these energy companies.

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<v Speaker 2>They're approved by the Department of Public Utilities in Massachusets.

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<v Speaker 4>I have called them, I have called them, and I have.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not my question, that's not That's not where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going in this way. Might bear with me for sorry. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So these public utilities, the committ the members of the

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<v Speaker 2>the Board of Public Utilities, they're appointed by the politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not appointed by the electric companies. They're appointed by

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<v Speaker 2>the politicians. When these rates were approved in November November Forest,

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<v Speaker 2>someone at the governor's office should have said to the governor,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, governor, let's hope we don't have a cold winter,

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<v Speaker 2>because if we do, energy prices in Massachusetts are going

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<v Speaker 2>to skyrocket. So the politicians are supposed to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye. They're supposed to work in our interest,

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<v Speaker 2>and prices go up, it costs more. When the demand

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<v Speaker 2>goes up, it costs more. What I'm trying to say is,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to channel your frustration, I wouldn't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that some head of one of these

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<v Speaker 2>big companies is making eighteen million or whatever they're making.

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<v Speaker 2>I would concern about where are the politicians. We live

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<v Speaker 2>in a one party state. Do you think there was

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<v Speaker 2>one politician who who maybe there's one or two that

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<v Speaker 2>we could find that issued a press release that said

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<v Speaker 2>these these increases are not reasonable. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is reaction. This is like. This is like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a Red Sox fan and you bought season

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<v Speaker 2>tickets and you went to every game, and on September first,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, this team stinks. This is a horrible team.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in last place. I paid good money for my

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<v Speaker 2>seats and every time they come to the game they lose.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little late. The time to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>team not being good is early in the season. Get

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<v Speaker 2>some better players, get some better get some better politicians.

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<v Speaker 5>Mike Sake sandwiches outside of Fenway a great though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how much they cost?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh boy, I don't know. I haven't been there quite

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<v Speaker 5>a while. My dad and I used to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my d jeez, take sandwiches, so you they were

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<v Speaker 2>great sandwiches. But he probably was empty as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>only teasing your mic. All I'm just saying is that

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<v Speaker 2>it's the people who are supposed to put the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox together, or the Bruins, or the Celtics or the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>If they don't do a good job, they get canned.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't can any of our politicians. We keep electing

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<v Speaker 2>the politicians in Massachusetts all the time. I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>To do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Kaien Bloom? Do you remember the names

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the Patriot coach after Belichick who was

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<v Speaker 2>fired the day after the seasons?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one year. That's it. So you know they they

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm just saying, is that blame the politicians and

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<v Speaker 2>blame the fact that we all go to the polls

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<v Speaker 2>and we vote for the same people every time. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know him, represent ended up so and so he's

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<v Speaker 2>a great guy. I saw him at the diner last

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<v Speaker 2>summer and he said to me, Hey, buddy, how are

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<v Speaker 2>you great to see you. How's it going? We're idiots.

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<v Speaker 5>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're Mike. We got and we also got to

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<v Speaker 2>look in the mirror and blame ourselves. You know, keep voting,

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<v Speaker 2>keep voting the same people in you think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get different.

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<v Speaker 4>Meetings.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been follow I've been following yourself, Glenn Beck, John Hannity,

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<v Speaker 5>all those guys there, And you know.

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<v Speaker 8>All I canna say is right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank god, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 6>I hear you were here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Say no more.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, I won't.

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<v Speaker 2>We We had a president. We had a president for

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<v Speaker 2>four years who didn't have a clue.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh this is too busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice cream his favorite. His favorite, I think was chocolate chip.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, Hey, Mike, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>good sport. Hang in your palace. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope a little bit, Yeah I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope. I've had a little bit of fun with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also I'm deadly serious. Keep keep electing the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking to you, but I'm talking to the

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<v Speaker 2>people out there who are who are who are listening.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you go to the polls and you

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<v Speaker 2>vote for the same guy or gal every time because

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<v Speaker 2>they saw you at the diner, or they saw you

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<v Speaker 2>at the stopping shop supermarket and they said hi to you. Yeah, hey, great.

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<v Speaker 3>To see you.

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<v Speaker 8>How are ye?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the game in Massachusetts. They see you at

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<v Speaker 2>the super how's a what? How's the missus and the kids?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And all of a sudden you go home

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<v Speaker 2>that night and you say to your wife, you know

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<v Speaker 2>who I met today? I met? Is that at a

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<v Speaker 2>Kroma four? What a great guy he said hello to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's what happens. Unfortunately, have a good one, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, follow the money, follow the money.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it? All right? Uh, I'm having fun with this.

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<v Speaker 2>But other than that would be crazy. If you agree

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<v Speaker 2>That's the theme tonight where we have we're paying too much. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they're picking our pockets. Remember in Massachusetts. Say it with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go next to Stephen Norfolk. Want to

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<v Speaker 2>move people here a little bit more quickly. Steve, thank

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<v Speaker 3>Hi. Hi Dan.

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<v Speaker 6>So uh, well, there's there's I have three different properties

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<v Speaker 6>utility bill and they wanted to change the meter. And

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<v Speaker 6>they say her her efficient see is very low compared

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<v Speaker 6>to her surrounding neighbors. Yet there's a disclaimer that, like,

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<v Speaker 6>come to that conclusion?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Your bill sometimes says actual read and then sometimes it

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<v Speaker 6>Right, so and and and and for some reason they

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you any let me tell you I think

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<v Speaker 2>help you here. Under Massachusetts law, gas companies are required

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<v Speaker 2>to change your gas meter. Is your mom got gas

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<v Speaker 2>or electricity or both?

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<v Speaker 6>She has natural gas?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, Okay, Well, the reason I know that is

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<v Speaker 2>I had my gas meter changed in my house last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a call from the National National Grid and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, you know, Massachusetts law requires that your your

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<v Speaker 2>meter be changed every seven years. So the crew came

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<v Speaker 2>those meters at some point lose their efficiency or their

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<v Speaker 2>efficacy and that's so that's all I know about that.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's so, that's that's fine and normal like fixed bat.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's weird how they say, compare to your neighbors,

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<v Speaker 6>you're doing very poorly, and well they could be.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're probably talking about, to be really honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>is the amount of heat that your mom is using. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and look right, when when folks are older, they tend

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<v Speaker 2>that you that's just really you know, and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>take that calculation and consideration. So if your mom is

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<v Speaker 2>is living alone in her nineties in a house. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how well isolated.

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<v Speaker 4>The house is, right, No, it's a big house.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, so that's probably yeah, it's probably. She's Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a house down the street where there's a mom,

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<v Speaker 2>a dad and five kids and a dog, just the

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<v Speaker 2>heat that the activity in that house is going to generate,

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<v Speaker 2>is they're going to probably you know, be a little

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<v Speaker 2>more efficient than your mom because your mom's living alone.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a factory, right right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I also I also have a place on the cape,

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<v Speaker 6>and I got the same thing, like, oh, you did

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<v Speaker 6>really poorly this year, And I'm like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>why because it's last year, and they were comparing it

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<v Speaker 6>to last winter. That's what their basis was, and the

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<v Speaker 6>last winter it was mild, very mild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I get a lot of that too, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that you I don't know how they did. I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that. They tell people they're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>well because they want you to turn the energy down.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I have a customer that I worked for

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<v Speaker 6>and when her husband died, she had a very large

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<v Speaker 6>home in Westwood with five bedrooms. All the kids moved out.

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<v Speaker 6>Her husband died and she was just using one part

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<v Speaker 6>of the house, yep. And she got a letter saying

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<v Speaker 6>you're doing terrible and she goes, don't even use the

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<v Speaker 6>whole house. I just use this one section.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh I think to some extent they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>make it up. And if you are at a large,

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<v Speaker 2>larger house, it's it's going to be caught. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to cost more so, right.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the other thing about the winterization thing, if

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<v Speaker 6>you want to hear about that, that was like three

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<v Speaker 6>years ago. I had them come out because my furnace

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<v Speaker 6>went where I live now in Northwark, so I have

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<v Speaker 6>no heat and I have a wood stove and uh

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<v Speaker 6>so I got an estimate for doing that and they

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<v Speaker 6>came out and I'm like, well do you want to

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<v Speaker 6>switch over to uh solar? And you know, so they

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<v Speaker 6>did a drone thing all versus is I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>if I should say the company online, I'm on your phone,

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<v Speaker 6>on on the radio or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were trying to sell you.

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<v Speaker 6>So they came out and they did. They seem professional

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<v Speaker 6>they can in the attic and and you know one

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<v Speaker 6>company wanted to like so in the name of nature,

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<v Speaker 6>they said, we get to cut down all these trees.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, yeah, I forget about it. Yeah, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like seriously. And then so the next one, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Get this stuff all the time in the mail, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to switch to more efficient clean energy, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that the clean energy they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to rely upon solar and wind, it's always going to

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<v Speaker 2>But you feel better. You feel, oh God, I'm using

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<v Speaker 2>clean energy, and all of a sudden you look at

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<v Speaker 2>your bill and it's twenty percent higher. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>call them and you say, well, why can you tell me? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we figured you knew. I mean, when you get this

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the mail that says, if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>switch to clean energy, you'll feel very much better about yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Until you right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have the customers the same thing, and they

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<v Speaker 6>like they had that. They had one that went bankrupt

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<v Speaker 6>and they said they didn't have they put up the

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<v Speaker 6>panels and they ran out of money. And so in

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<v Speaker 6>my story what happened was I was going to have

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<v Speaker 6>it done and then so they said, well you get

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<v Speaker 6>to do the roof, and I'm like, well, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 6>do half the roof for three thousand. I'm like well,

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<v Speaker 6>what's the point and half the roof, hop out the

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<v Speaker 6>whole roofs and they said, okay, we'll do the whole roof,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they gave me a price. It was just

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<v Speaker 6>like that sounds too good to be true kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And I talked to a reeler and she says, don't

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<v Speaker 6>do it because they own that space over your house.

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<v Speaker 6>If you want to sell your house, you have to

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<v Speaker 6>buy them out and or remove the panels, and I'll

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<v Speaker 6>cost you like fifty sixty thousand dollars or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a good heads up. Hey, I'm up on

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<v Speaker 2>my break, Steep. Thank you for colling. Please call again.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a lot of information. We took a little

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<v Speaker 2>agga of time, but it was well worth it, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you much. The only line opened six one seven nine

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<v Speaker 2>this until eleven. After eleven, we're going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the price of eggs. And so you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>in get in now. Six one seven nine three one

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at a piece from two years ago. In

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<v Speaker 2>response to projections about higher energy costs than Massachusetts, several

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<v Speaker 2>state lawmakers have sent a few letters to the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Public Utilities asking them to reassess how the utility

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<v Speaker 2>rates are set in the state January twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>How did that work out? Guys? The fact in the

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<v Speaker 2>matter is the system is broken here in Massachusetts. State

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<v Speaker 2>Representative John Barrett, Democratic Berkshire said, another guy from Berkshire,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a way to lower these rates in a

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<v Speaker 2>very timely manner, I think it's important that it gets done.

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<v Speaker 2>State Senator Paul Mark, Democrat Berkshire said, Well, that was

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<v Speaker 2>January twelfth, twenty and twenty three. Nothing has changed. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>keep rolling here. I'm apologizing. I'm I've given called us

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<v Speaker 2>a little extra time, Rick in reading you and next

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<v Speaker 2>on nights, I Rick, appreciate your patience. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Hey, Dan high.

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<v Speaker 2>Good sir, cool.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm gonna sip it quick because I'm about to go

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<v Speaker 9>I think maybe a question a lot of people are having.

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<v Speaker 9>So typically in private sector, if you're heading a department,

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<v Speaker 9>most likely you're going to be working in day to

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<v Speaker 9>day operation of that department for for quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 9>For example, the senior of Costco he got started as

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<v Speaker 9>a foot cliff driver in the warehouse, and the serial

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<v Speaker 9>of the nankey get started as a retail associate. The

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<v Speaker 9>But I was actually looking at profile of the GPU chair. Uh,

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<v Speaker 9>he was a lawyer, and before that he was he

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<v Speaker 9>was working in academia. We have two commissioners who are

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<v Speaker 9>both working.

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<v Speaker 3>A lawyer for their entire career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 9>I was thinking, if you were having this very specific

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<v Speaker 9>functional department, why are we appointed or now we But

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<v Speaker 9>why was Governor Healing appointing lawyers attorneys to be the

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<v Speaker 9>head of a departiament and making this position of the

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<v Speaker 9>rating and great approval. This is just something I really

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I can explain it to you. I

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<v Speaker 2>am am looking at this right now even as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Politicians make appointments of people who have two qualifications. One

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<v Speaker 2>the person who is being appointed probably supported the politician,

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<v Speaker 9>It doesn't matter if they actually working the fields or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the point you're making is a really

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<v Speaker 2>good one, okay, and I'm not dismissing or diminishing it

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<v Speaker 2>at all. But the reality is that in Massachusetts, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that. I don't want to be really as

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<v Speaker 2>cynical as I'd like to be, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, but politicians tend to appoint I am

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<v Speaker 2>on the Department of Public Utility site right now, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to be honest with you. I'm having

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<v Speaker 2>a tough time even finding who the the members of

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<v Speaker 9>You, change no brand as what h I think his

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<v Speaker 9>name is? The nameless here is mister James nos Grands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know him. I'm just looking. Uh, let

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<v Speaker 2>me see if if I can google this and again.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you're gonna You're gonna go through a couple of

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<v Speaker 9>pages to find there to find their names.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let me just real quick quickly here members

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<v Speaker 2>of Massachusetts Department of Public Utilities. Uh. You know again,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is that it's it's not someone who's who

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, it's the same way when they

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<v Speaker 2>appoint judges. They they tend to appoint people who they

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<v Speaker 2>know and who they trust, and who who sees the

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<v Speaker 2>world as they do. You know, I'm I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>right here at the Department of Public is a three

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<v Speaker 2>member Yeah, I got it. Here. The chair is James

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<v Speaker 2>vin Nostrom. Let's see if I got anything on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Here spent three years as a members of adjunct faculty

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<v Speaker 2>at the Pace University School of Law in White Plains,

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<v Speaker 2>New York. He was recognized by the Energy Bar Association

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<v Speaker 2>in the two thousand and seven State Regulatory Practitioner of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year. He received his LLM in Environmental Law at.

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<v Speaker 6>Pace University and hes.

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<v Speaker 2>Jd from the Iowa College of Law, and his master's

446
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<v Speaker 2>degree from Sunny at Albany and an undergraduate degree in

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<v Speaker 2>economics from the University of Northern Iowa. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who doesn't have much of a connection with Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the next person on this group. Commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>Cecil Fraser es now the lawyer. As counsel with the Department,

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<v Speaker 2>she's worked on issues involving New England's wholesale electric markets.

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<v Speaker 2>She received her Bachelors of Arts degree in polside from

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<v Speaker 2>Fordham University and her j d. From Rutgers University in Camden, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we have a woman named Stacy Rubin. She has

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<v Speaker 2>her Masters of Public Health from Tufts, Masters of Environmental

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<v Speaker 2>Law from Vermont Law School, and an undergraduate degree from

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<v Speaker 2>New York University Law School. So we have three people

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<v Speaker 2>who pretty much were educated outside of Massachusetts who are

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<v Speaker 2>running the Department of Public Utilities. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and also they it doesn't seem doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 9>me that any of them actually has done one day

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<v Speaker 9>of work related to public utility. Oh well, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I believe one of them has been a facilitating certain

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<v Speaker 9>public utility law or whatever, but none of the operation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that it would be good to have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a group of people who are more connected

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<v Speaker 2>to Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I got, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>this is sort of I don't know how long they're

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<v Speaker 2>appointed for. I don't know how much money they make.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect they probably get, you know, pretty good salary,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, and I think it's I

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<v Speaker 2>think they've got to be politically connected because they're appointed

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<v Speaker 2>I believe by the governor, not necessarily by this governor.

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<v Speaker 2>She probably has only appointed one of them, and it

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<v Speaker 2>could be that they each get a term of a

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<v Speaker 2>few years. But it's three people. James then Nostrend from Iowa,

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<v Speaker 2>Cecil Fraser from looks like New York and New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>and the last lady Stacey Rubin, who seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>from She she did earn a law degree at Northeastern University,

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<v Speaker 2>which is good, and also a degree from Tuft's University

484
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<v Speaker 2>School of Medicine, a public health degree. But and and

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<v Speaker 2>and and Vermont. So you've made some points. You've made

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<v Speaker 2>some points right now. Everybody now knows their names. Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to do this to you, man, but but

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<v Speaker 2>I got others I got to get to before this

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<v Speaker 2>hour is up.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, all right, all right, that's fine, all right, Rick, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Made some great points here. I was stunned that there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's such very slight connections to Massachusetts on the DPU.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'll later thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick, appreciate it. Pretty good. Call six one seven two

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty six one seven nine three ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Frank in Boston and Mike and Beverly, I

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<v Speaker 2>got for you, and I plan to switch to the

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<v Speaker 2>topic of the price of eggs at eleven o'clock. We

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<v Speaker 2>can continue this a little into the eleven o'clock news

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call in right now, coming back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on w b Z, the news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chair of the Deep in Massachusetts was appointed on

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<v Speaker 2>March fifteenth for turn beginning May first, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>He was appointed by Governor Healey. He's the author of

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<v Speaker 2>the Cold Trap, how West Virginia was left behind in

509
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<v Speaker 2>the clean energy revolution. He's obviously a clean energy guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Cecil Fraser was appointed by Charlie Baker in June of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, the latest appointment by Governor Healey. Stacy Rubin

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<v Speaker 2>was appointed in April of twenty twenty three, little less

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<v Speaker 2>than two years ago. She was Vice president Environmental Justice

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<v Speaker 2>at the Conservation Law Foundation. I kind of know where

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<v Speaker 2>she's coming from politically. With that's all I need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go next to Frank and Boston. Frank, I

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<v Speaker 2>apologize for holding you on so long your next year.

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<v Speaker 10>Sure there is a problem to stretch out payments on

519
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<v Speaker 10>the gas bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're saying that that, well, they're gonna you can

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You can average them out over the over

522
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<v Speaker 2>the year, so you you pay a little less in

523
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<v Speaker 2>the winter and more in the summer, but at the

524
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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, you still pay the total bill.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're also supposedly going to cut rates both for

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<v Speaker 2>National Grid and ever Source about ten percent. That's being done.

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<v Speaker 2>The commission, which is supposed to be in the ister

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<v Speaker 2>of the people, they ordered uh, National Grid and and

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<v Speaker 2>ever Source to cut their rates in the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months by five percent, and National Grid and Eversor

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<v Speaker 2>said we'll cut it by ten percent. So we obviously

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<v Speaker 2>have a very weak DPU Commission here in Massachusetts, and

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Healy should fire the three of them at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>If if the companies are willing to cut their rate

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent and these people are only willing to tell

536
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<v Speaker 2>them to cut their rate five percent, how nuts is that?

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<v Speaker 10>We don't need Governor Healing. How about the commission or

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<v Speaker 10>not the commission, but the part of the legislature that

539
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<v Speaker 10>oversees these departments, Well, the people should be calling these legislatures.

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<v Speaker 10>And and then another thing too is like we can

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<v Speaker 10>cut our gas usage by you know, going to like

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<v Speaker 10>I think they call them convection ranges and also don't

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<v Speaker 10>use gas, use electricity and more economical.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people? How much does the convection range cost, Frank,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not familiar with that.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not sure, but I don't think it's that expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>It's only a think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think they're quite and they're quite expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people probably are happy. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>we get into the question of you know, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>cleaner energy. Cleaner energy is a little more expensive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the commission on this uh this uh DPU.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's more controllable. It's more of us controlling it

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<v Speaker 10>and then instead of them controlling us. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 10>point of the game.

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<v Speaker 7>Well maybe maybe you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, maybe you'll save ten maybe you'll save ten dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month on your bill, but it will cost you

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand dollars to get it, to get the new

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<v Speaker 2>new range. That's you gotta look at the number.

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<v Speaker 10>Week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the numbers in front of me, Frank,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I don't want to ask. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to advise anybody to spend a lot of money unless

565
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<v Speaker 2>I know that they're gonna they're going to recapture that

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<v Speaker 2>money on the other.

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<v Speaker 10>End, But we get these things that tell us you're

568
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<v Speaker 10>using more gas in your neighbor. That means that we

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<v Speaker 10>need to or re examine our.

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<v Speaker 1>Our our.

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<v Speaker 10>Building's efficiency and so we can do something for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 8>And now go ahead, I mean, Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>I would suggest, and when do you buy? When are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to buy a convection of him?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, sir, okay's supposed to be even healthier.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna buy one?

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<v Speaker 10>I supposed to be poisoning us?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna buy one? Frank? Frank, I got a

579
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<v Speaker 2>simple question. Try to stick with me for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>When are you buying.

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<v Speaker 10>It in the next few months?

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<v Speaker 2>Do me a favor. When you buy it, will you

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<v Speaker 2>call me back and let me know how much it

584
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<v Speaker 2>costs and then how much it saves in the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, I'm surprised that you don't have one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>you're seem to be a guy who would be somebody

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<v Speaker 10>who would be into new technology.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm I'm kind of a traditional guy. I like

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<v Speaker 2>to find stuff that works, and when people come out

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<v Speaker 2>with new stuff, I just want to make sure it works.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those guys who probably uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>looks before. I'm kind of a look before I leap guy, Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, Frank, I got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>more I gotta sneak in. I'm gonna talk to you soon,

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<v Speaker 2>but call me back. You know how much how that

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<v Speaker 2>Evan works? Okay, thanks, thank you much. Let me go

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<v Speaker 2>next to get Mike and Beverly and Mike, you're quick,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, go ahead, Mike, Hey, Dan, how are previous carler?

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<v Speaker 8>Let me let me know how that works over you

602
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<v Speaker 8>by that stove.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, That's what I was asking, Mike. I

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<v Speaker 2>hear you.

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<v Speaker 8>But anyway, as far as this whole DPU thing goes,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I mean like they're out of their mind

607
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<v Speaker 8>about the situation one. I saw a story about this

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<v Speaker 8>the other day, and it has to deal with the

609
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<v Speaker 8>delivery fee. Is the fee that chiding you to pay

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<v Speaker 8>for the mass stave program that everyone else getting that

611
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<v Speaker 8>free insulation and all that sort of stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 8>So we're paying for other people's stuff. That's how that's

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<v Speaker 8>going on. That's situasion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well well that may be true, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>have you taken advantage of that program?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Way?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Well I can't afford the house, then that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well if you don't have a house, that makes

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<v Speaker 2>no Do you rent? Is that what you rent?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I rent?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay? Uh and do you on your rent? Does

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<v Speaker 2>your rent cover the gas and electric or do you

625
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<v Speaker 2>pay a renting in the gas and electric separate?

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<v Speaker 9>No, it's part of event.

627
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, how much you how much you're renting up

628
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<v Speaker 2>in Beverly? How expensive it is to rent a nice

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<v Speaker 2>place in Beverly.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm paying fifteen hundred for a room, then.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen hundred just for one room. That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, all right, yeah, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I'm on your side, Mike. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you know that. But that was a comment that was

635
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<v Speaker 2>empathetic and sympathetic to you. That's a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>for a single room.

637
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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about it.

638
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean she said the one out by a recause.

639
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<v Speaker 8>It's not at below market rate, it's market rate. Yeah,

640
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<v Speaker 8>I mean you know, yeah, it's it's it's retarded. Yeah,

641
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<v Speaker 8>And then you know, Mari heal, I don't understand the

642
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 8>soldiers rage or she's out of her mind, you know,

643
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<v Speaker 8>or the how affordable housing she wants to build affordable

644
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 8>houses and goes who can afford affordable housing? It's ten

645
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<v Speaker 8>grand to get it, to get a kid to move in,

646
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<v Speaker 8>you know, for us last charity seven behind the credits.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Mike, I want to get in there and get

648
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<v Speaker 2>on this show. Okay, thanks have me going fighting for you.

649
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Mike, appreciate it. Let me go next to Daryl.

650
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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of some of these DPU commissioners. Get get

651
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>some new people in there who at least have some

652
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>connection in Massachusetts. Daryl, you're next on night Side, Daryl.

653
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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

654
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<v Speaker 7>Hey Dan, you're talking about power meters and whatnot, and

655
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<v Speaker 7>uh but yeah, the new power meters. They're trying to

656
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<v Speaker 7>push them on because they're called smart meters, yep. And

657
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 7>what they do is they can actually control it from

658
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:47.119
<v Speaker 7>one central location as opposed to even the ones people

659
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 7>have where they just drive by, and they can actually

660
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 7>get the power reading. And but if you look at it,

661
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 7>when they actually get all this, I'm not doing a

662
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 7>conspiracy thing, don't get me wrong.

663
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<v Speaker 4>It's a but with all.

664
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<v Speaker 7>The continued power emphasis then you actually have to. It

665
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 7>costs more to get new power boxes in and power masts,

666
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 7>and if you have a house, that's probably about minimum

667
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 7>ten thousand dollars for a new installation, right, money, a

668
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 7>lot of money. But going back to the ranges and

669
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<v Speaker 7>all the electric stoves, yep, have the old grill type

670
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.760
<v Speaker 7>and or the gas stove because those are the best

671
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<v Speaker 7>for cooking eggs.

672
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<v Speaker 2>That's well, no, that's a nice segue because next hour

673
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about the price of eggs. Darryl,

674
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<v Speaker 2>thank you much. That's a perfect segue to the next hour.

675
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Darryl. Talk soon. Here comes the eleven o'clock news,

676
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<v Speaker 2>and right after the news, we will talk about cooking

677
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<v Speaker 2>eggs and the price of eggs back on night Side

678
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<v Speaker 2>after this.

679
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<v Speaker 5>It's nice side.

680
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<v Speaker 1>Umbelling easy Boston's news Radio.

681
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<v Speaker 2>Now we are going to talk about the price of

682
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>eggs in this hour. But I got one caller who

683
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<v Speaker 2>I want to give an opportunity to talk about high

684
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>energy prices. Elijah, who's in New Bedford. Elijah, you are

685
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 2>next on Nightside. I'll let you in here and you

686
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 2>can talk about either energy or eggs or both, whatever

687
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you'd like. Go right ahead, My friend.

688
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<v Speaker 3>As long as he keeps going up, I think I'm

689
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to lay an egg.

690
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe we'll all have to try to figure that out.

691
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 3>No. Absolutely, And so my name is Elijah and I

692
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 3>represent it Isness against Egosaurs. It's the group started to

693
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 3>try to, you know, get organized and get situated with

694
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 3>what's going on with the prices of energy. We grew

695
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:41.000
<v Speaker 3>from you know, zero to twenty six thousand members now

696
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>in about twenty three days. And that just you know,

697
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 3>demonstrates the level of anxiety and frustration and fear and

698
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 3>desperation that the people have. And that's fully representative in

699
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 3>the rapid growth that we've been experiencing.

700
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, we've talked about this. I don't know

701
00:39:57.639 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 2>if you listen to some of the callers in the

702
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>last couple of hour. The governor made a speech today

703
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<v Speaker 2>that the Chamber of Commerce he was going to file legislation.

704
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<v Speaker 2>My question is, and if you've been listening, you've heard

705
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 2>me ask the question, and that is, why are the

706
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>politicians asleep at the switch? Have you looked at the

707
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>three members of the DPU Department of Public Utilities. They're

708
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<v Speaker 2>the ones that raised these rates in November and I

709
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>don't recall any outcry from the politicians who are up

710
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>at Beacon Hill is supposed to look after our interest

711
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 2>as citizens and as taxpayers and his right payers.

712
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<v Speaker 3>Well here is a thing. You know, they're going to

713
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 3>do their song and dance and their political shuffle on

714
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.679
<v Speaker 3>to pretend like they truly care. But the reality is

715
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 3>is that after that rate hike, one of the biggest

716
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>rate heights in Massachusetts issue was passed on November first,

717
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 3>politicians went ahead and passed as twenty nine sixty seven,

718
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 3>which is another bill associated with energy, which is loaded

719
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 3>and loaded with infrastructure hikes, and that was passed on

720
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<v Speaker 3>November fourteenth, fourteen days after that you know, initial big

721
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 3>rate hike, and then we got another way.

722
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<v Speaker 2>I always say, what did what did that bill reportedly

723
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>accomplish it? What was the purpose of that bill? If

724
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 2>you're going to if you.

725
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Know so, the crux of that bill as it's word,

726
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 3>as it's named, is basically about infra infrastructure for you know,

727
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 3>the Clean Energy Initiative and consumer protections. But as it

728
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 3>happens within the legislative branch, we know that certain things

729
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 3>get gutted, you know, so they can actually be approved.

730
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 3>There was two predecessors to this bill, but in this

731
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 3>final version they kept the name with the final tagline

732
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 3>that you know in consumer protection laws, but they gutted

733
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 3>all those consumer protection laws before this bill actually got

734
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 3>signed and enacted and more really did sign it on

735
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 3>November twenty first. So either they're ignorant of the bills

736
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 3>that they're signing, or they're complacent in their evaluation of

737
00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the bills that they're signing. So either way, you're.

738
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Dont a lot of Elijah. I don't think they're ignorant.

739
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I think they know exactly what they're doing because this

740
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 2>is their job. It's their full time job. You know,

741
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of other states around the country, politicians

742
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 2>in New Hampshire, for example, the legislature they're paid each

743
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>they have four hundred members of their legislature out there.

744
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a joint legislature and they get like one hundred

745
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 2>dollars a year. That's their salary. It's a stipend. Oh wow, yeah,

746
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that's it. That's it. And the idea is you serve

747
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 2>a couple of terms in the legislature and you're able

748
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 2>to say you're a former you know, state representative or

749
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 2>all of that. But down here, most of the politicians

750
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Speaker 2>are making well into the six figures and they it's

751
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>their full time job and they're supposed to look out

752
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 2>for this stuff. And I didn't hear any hue and

753
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 2>cry from the legislature. Now maybe they thought, well, it

754
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. We've had mile winters around here. But guess what,

755
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we have a cold and we're having one right now.

756
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 2>And who's paying the price. Not the legislators because they

757
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 2>get reelected all the time. It's people like us who,

758
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, hope that there's someone up there paying attention.

759
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, where is where is the Governor's secretary of

760
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Energy on this? The governor today gave this speech at

761
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.639
<v Speaker 2>the Chamber of Commerce and she she was very short

762
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 2>on specifics as to what she's going to do, and

763
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.039
<v Speaker 2>there was no forethought. And it's like, you know, she'll

764
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>file some legislation which we'll say, let's give some coupons

765
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 2>to people or whatever. But it's really frustrating. It's really

766
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:48.559
<v Speaker 2>frustrating both as as somebody who watches the legislature. It's

767
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:51.320
<v Speaker 2>frustrating to me, and I'm sure it's frustrating to you.

768
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>You're you're just getting involved in the political process. You've got,

769
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, quite a group of people that are with you.

770
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope you can keep together and and and become activists.

771
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, let's break it down from the beginning, right,

772
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they passed this law and then, like I said,

773
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.159
<v Speaker 3>two weeks later, they ended up signing another law, which

774
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 3>is that s twenty nine to sixty seven, which those

775
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 3>rate heights we yet to feel, and we will feel

776
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 3>them in April May around the apel May because it

777
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 3>takes about ninety days after a bill is initiated, and

778
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 3>for this specific dolar bill that has a bunch of infrastructure,

779
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, they are permits that need to be found,

780
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 3>so it takes a little bit longer for those bills

781
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>to actually hit us. So they're gonna hit us. They're

782
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna hit us within that May April May period where

783
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.159
<v Speaker 3>we won't feel them as much, but they'll still be

784
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:37.480
<v Speaker 3>in there.

785
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 7>Now.

786
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Electricity is gonna kick in now with air conditioners and

787
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 3>things in the summer, so you know, the prices are

788
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 3>going to be fully blown out. And I don't know

789
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 3>what citizens are going to do because even now, while

790
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 3>they're screening at the top of their lungs, the only

791
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 3>thing that the legislature and more Heally I will to

792
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 3>do is gave another way awight plan through a five

793
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<v Speaker 3>percent discount which got kicked backed now a ten percent

794
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 3>discount with National Grid attaching interest to you know, there's

795
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 3>discount plan which we're going to have to be back

796
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>in April for National Grid customers with interest, which I mean,

797
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 3>you can make the argument that's absolutely predatory. I mean,

798
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the citizens are screaming up the top.

799
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 4>Of the well.

800
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<v Speaker 2>I want you to react to this, and then I'm

801
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>going to let you go. The DPU commissioners, who were

802
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 2>appointed by Governor Healey and Governor Baker, ordered the utilities,

803
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:39.400
<v Speaker 2>not just ever Source in National Grid, but Unitil to

804
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>to basically, uh cut prices by five percent. That's what

805
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 2>our DPU commissioners did, cut prices by five percent. And

806
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<v Speaker 2>in the case of National Grid and ever Source, I

807
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know about Unitil and some of the other smaller companies,

808
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>they said five percent, We're going to cut it by

809
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:04.039
<v Speaker 2>ten percent. So you had the regulators who were so weak,

810
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>they're telling these companies cut it by five percent and

811
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>we'll be happy, and the and the companies are saying, no,

812
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 2>we'll give you a cut of ten percent. Now you're

813
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.039
<v Speaker 2>right there. They're going to eventually get that money back.

814
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 2>But why would the DPU commissioners be so uh so

815
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 2>kind to the to the big companies. Why would they

816
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>not have said ten percent or more? That's what's crazy.

817
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 2>I was Governor Heally. I I was Governor Heally. Based

818
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>upon that, I would say, you have you're not functioning

819
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.280
<v Speaker 2>in the interest of the consumers, and thank you for

820
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 2>your service, but I'm firing all three of you. I'm

821
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 2>going to point I'm going to point a new board.

822
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I would do.

823
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, if she wasn't complicit in, you know, this sort

824
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 3>of coordination, then she might do that. But unfortunately to

825
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 3>the commissioners were appointed by her, and we can see that,

826
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, by the evidence, like you just mentioned that,

827
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't seem like they're reacting properly in the fake

828
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.639
<v Speaker 3>of public interest. And why that is, well, these relationships

829
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 3>have certainly been corrupted over the years, and they've gotten

830
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.000
<v Speaker 3>too close to each other to the point that they're

831
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 3>now sleeping in the same bed and they're not protecting

832
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the American people. And this is why I started the organization.

833
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Like I mentioned, to the moaning against every source on

834
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Facebook dot com because I want the people to know

835
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 3>that there are things that we can do. The DP

836
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 3>actually lists on their website their petitions that have a

837
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 3>source and a national good, and all the other gas

838
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 3>and electric companies filed before any of these rate hikes

839
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.199
<v Speaker 3>are passed, and we actually had the legal right to

840
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 3>go on there file complaints style comments, and in a

841
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 3>perfect world where the system actually protects us, we're able

842
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 3>to block some of these rate hikes based on financial hardships.

843
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Now I would imagine, all.

844
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Elijah, I hate to do this to you, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waving this conversation. Guy who feels this deeply. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your You're calling in and we will talk again.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Hafick, thank you for much. Daniel, a great show.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Alasha, talk to you soon. Good night. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back, I want to talk about I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to change topics and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the price of eggs. They have gone up dramatically, and

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<v Speaker 2>today Donald Trump's secretary of Agriculture. Her name is Brooke Rollins.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal and

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<v Speaker 2>she's actually proposed some ideas as to what she can

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<v Speaker 2>do to help bring the price of eggs down. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get your reaction to it. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>know what are you doing. I'll tell you this. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in a store yesterday, No, maybe I was in

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<v Speaker 2>a I was in a store yesterday, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>looked at some of the prices in the store. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know what we have to do. We have to

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<v Speaker 2>turn around his consumers and say, guess what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>buying those products anymore. There are items that I used

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<v Speaker 2>to buy. I'm talking about grocery items stores. Guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to buy the same brands that I

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<v Speaker 2>used to buy. Uh. And if enough of us looked

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<v Speaker 2>at some of these companies who have jacked their prices up,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in you know, cookie isle and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You go down those aisles, you know, it's tough when

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<v Speaker 2>you have kids. You have to buy the milk. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's certain products I think that we all need to buy,

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<v Speaker 2>things like orange juice and things like that that are

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<v Speaker 2>good for you, and fruits and vegetables. But uh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's ask consumers be a little smarter, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that. We're gonna talk about the price of eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna keep going right after this break of

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<v Speaker 2>night Side