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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>I am six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Later with mo Kelly live everywhere in the

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<v Speaker 3>It will be up in just a moment, just like

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<v Speaker 3>you're accustomed to seeing it. But joining me right now

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<v Speaker 3>is Joe Kwan. You know her of course from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>but also Spectrum News. Jokwan is great to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I am good, just you know, planning my surf for tomorra.

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<v Speaker 3>You are planning your surf for tomorrow, and that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason why I wanted to reach out to

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<v Speaker 3>you last week. I was asking you informally on text message.

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<v Speaker 3>Did the toxic algae bloom impat you in any way

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<v Speaker 3>or at least your decision making? You told me privately, No,

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be out there surfing well tonight. We know

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<v Speaker 3>about this four thousand gallon sewage spill which has shut

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<v Speaker 3>down portions of Huntington Beach and Newport Beach and it's

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<v Speaker 3>been closed since Saturday. Do these headlines impact you personally

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<v Speaker 3>or surfing wise anything.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they don't impact my decision, Like I go every

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<v Speaker 4>morning at dawn patrol, which is when the sun is rising,

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<v Speaker 4>and you go, and you know, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>less crowded, and sometimes I mean that is close issh

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<v Speaker 4>to some of the spots that I like to go to.

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<v Speaker 4>But anytime it rains, anytime you know, there's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of sprinkles. You know, they tell you don't go

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<v Speaker 4>in the water for seventy two hours, but I know

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really heed those mornings. If the water noticeably

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<v Speaker 4>looks a little brown gray, I perhaps might wait a day,

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<v Speaker 4>but typically not really. And suage fills, sure, obviously the

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<v Speaker 4>beaches are closed, and you know, when it's at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of a river day, so well, the I guess

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<v Speaker 4>you would say the most southern edge of that sewage

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<v Speaker 4>spill at least, you know, however they do that when

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<v Speaker 4>it goes out and the water floats out is at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of also a river jetty, which is not

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<v Speaker 4>where I typically surf because that's where runoff also goes.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I mean, if it's in a spot that

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<v Speaker 4>I go to every morning, then I might think about

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps picking another spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't surf, And there are people who may not

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<v Speaker 3>surf or know some of the ins and outs you

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<v Speaker 3>made mention of if it rains you may wait a

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<v Speaker 3>certain amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that.

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<v Speaker 4>They tell you to wait seventy two hours because the

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<v Speaker 4>runoff can bring in chemicals, gas, you know, just stuff

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<v Speaker 4>on the street into the ocean. I know, I've gone

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<v Speaker 4>surfing before. After it rains, there's a particular spot in

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<v Speaker 4>Seal Beach where it just looks like a landfill. After

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<v Speaker 4>it rains, the sand Gray Briol River brings in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there was one day, and I have to say that

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes surfers are a stupid species. But we just go

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<v Speaker 4>because we love it and we ignore all the other things.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's there were bowling balls, mattresses, shoes, just a

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<v Speaker 4>trash pile in the water. We were I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>that bowling ball until that day. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of when you catch a wave, you sort

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<v Speaker 4>of maneuver around the things in the water. It just

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<v Speaker 4>brings a lot junk in the water, plastic bags, straws,

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<v Speaker 4>bottle caps. One time I found high heels of a yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I got what you would call a stripper here. Clear

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of the most interesting things I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>in the water. Yeah, so after it rains, you typically

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<v Speaker 4>don't because it can bring in some stuff that can

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<v Speaker 4>get in your ears and your nose and give you

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<v Speaker 4>some bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not only part of the surfer species, You're a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the new spec And I say that because

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<v Speaker 3>not only are you aware of the news, you're covering

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<v Speaker 3>the news. You cover the news about toxicology, you cover

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<v Speaker 3>the news about these seward spills. You've covered the news

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<v Speaker 3>about the domoic acid as well. How does that figure

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<v Speaker 3>into maybe what you tell other surfers or how you

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<v Speaker 3>conduct yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen a lot of times with let's say, for example, you,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure have heard about the demok acid poisonings, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of felines stranding on the beaches, dolphins dying, birds

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<v Speaker 4>dying getting sick. I ask questions and do stories, and

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<v Speaker 4>ask researchers and that marians. You know, a researcher down

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<v Speaker 4>in scripts Institution of Oceanography is looking at demoic acid

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of hoping to find different molecular clues in

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<v Speaker 4>the water to say a bloom is about to happen

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<v Speaker 4>before it actually happens. And of course the number one

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<v Speaker 4>question as just a normal person. You have to be

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<v Speaker 4>a reporter, you don't have to be a surfer. You

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<v Speaker 4>see it on the beaches that we enjoy. Can it

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<v Speaker 4>affect us? She said, it's very rare. So it's this

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<v Speaker 4>thing called nitzsche It is an algal bloom that produces

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<v Speaker 4>the neurotoxin that's getting all these sea animals sick. And

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<v Speaker 4>she said the only way a human can get sick

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<v Speaker 4>is if you eat one of the shellfish that is

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<v Speaker 4>filled with the sudanicha stuff. And you know, immediately after

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<v Speaker 4>bloom they do give out warnings of don't eat the shellfish,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the muscles and all those things in the water.

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<v Speaker 4>So knowing that, I guess they go in armed with

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<v Speaker 4>information just by the nature of my being a reporter,

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<v Speaker 4>but and also just being naturally curious and asking those questions.

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<v Speaker 4>And if it was bad where they said yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>could get YadA YadA, I might think about not going,

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<v Speaker 4>but it hasn't happened yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Quad, you are an early riser.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not for those that just tuning in joke

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<v Speaker 3>on a spectrum news And also Kfi joins us as

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about toxicology. The recent of four thousand gallons

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<v Speaker 3>of sewage spill up and down portions of Orange County beaches. Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>would you get up in the morning? What time are

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<v Speaker 3>we talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Typically I'm up about five thirty in the morning. I

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<v Speaker 4>try to get out of the house by just before

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<v Speaker 4>six or right around six, and in the water by

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<v Speaker 4>about six thirty am. But they're early risers. I know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know Matt money Smith. I pretty much see him

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<v Speaker 4>every morning we serve together.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it took my next question, go ahead, and he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Out there at before six often, so we call that

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<v Speaker 4>vampire patrol because it's dark.

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<v Speaker 2>What type of workout is it for you?

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<v Speaker 3>I see you often post like maybe how many hours

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<v Speaker 3>you're out there, how many calories you've burned.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the physicality of it?

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<v Speaker 4>It depends, you know, if you're paddling hard and you're

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<v Speaker 4>getting longer waves, of course you're paddling back to what's

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<v Speaker 4>called the so it's past that sort of whitewashed sort

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<v Speaker 4>of area a little bit further out. So every time

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<v Speaker 4>you catch one in, you got to paddle back out.

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<v Speaker 4>So it really depends on how how soft the waves are.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you got to paddle really hard to get into them.

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<v Speaker 4>If they're a little bit steeper, then you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to paddle as hard to get into them, but you

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<v Speaker 4>have to paddle hard to get out back to the lineup.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, in an hour, I'm doing at least

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<v Speaker 4>an hour every morning, and it ranges for my four

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<v Speaker 4>hundred five hundred calories. It just depends on how hard

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<v Speaker 4>you're working out. And sometimes you know, the waves are

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<v Speaker 4>small and they're few and far between, and it's just

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<v Speaker 4>about being out in the water, in the cold water

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<v Speaker 4>and hanging out and you yeah, you know, three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred calories.

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<v Speaker 2>Joke quant my last question.

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<v Speaker 3>I often talk about how I try to stay my

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<v Speaker 3>ass out of the water as I get older because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want things touching me. I don't want things

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<v Speaker 3>brushing up against me. I don't want things biting me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want things stinging me. So tell me, Number one,

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<v Speaker 3>have you encountered a shark?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever?

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<v Speaker 3>That's number one? And number two, have you ever stepped

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<v Speaker 3>on a sting ray? You've been stung by jellyfish? Tell

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<v Speaker 3>me all the horror stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, yes to shark I've seen sharks. Southern

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<v Speaker 4>California is again just because of the stories I do,

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<v Speaker 4>which are a lot of beach environment type of stories.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm talking Chris Lowe at the shark lab

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<v Speaker 4>at cal State Long Beach. You know, this is an

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<v Speaker 4>area where juvenile white sharks, the babies are growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a nursing areas, yes, and then there's some

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<v Speaker 4>nurse sharks or leper charts. I'm not exactly sure up

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<v Speaker 4>in Venice Beach that I've seen by my foot. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not too worried about that, Okay, because I'm already

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<v Speaker 4>freaking you out. But Jelly, I was stung by something

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<v Speaker 4>one time last summer. I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor suspected it was some sort of stingray family. And

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<v Speaker 4>yet stingrays are it's kind of like street cred for surfers.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I've been stung twice on the right foot,

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<v Speaker 4>same foot, different times. You just there's an area in

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<v Speaker 4>Fe'll Beach at the jetty with that is full of stingrays.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I remember last summer. The waves are good,

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<v Speaker 4>you just go, it doesn't matter. You're sharing with hundreds

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<v Speaker 4>of stingrays. And as you're riding a wave, you can

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<v Speaker 4>see the little wings of the stingray going along with

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<v Speaker 4>you a ton of them. I'm not talking about one

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<v Speaker 4>or two. There would be maybe ten fifteen surrounding you.

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<v Speaker 4>You just learn how to land, either on your board

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the wave, or you do you

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<v Speaker 4>make your body like a starfish and you spread out

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<v Speaker 4>so you sort of slash on top of the water

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<v Speaker 4>and not touch the grod. So there are prequestions you

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<v Speaker 4>can take to avoid getting stung, but it happens, Chokewan.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not helping the case for you to get.

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<v Speaker 2>In the jellyfish, stingray and sharks. Oh my, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're telling me.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, Jokwan, thank you for.

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<v Speaker 4>Making sure therefore it you're not touching those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, but it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>You already told me you've seen sharks, you've been stung

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<v Speaker 3>by jellyfish and stingrays.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, you just sealed the deal, Chokewan.

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<v Speaker 3>Spectrum News, thank you for all your expertise and coming

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<v Speaker 3>on under short notice. And I will say you and

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Mohney Smith beat very safe out there because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not coming to save you. Well by Chokwan, It's later

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