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Speaker 3: is Joe Kwan. You know her of course from KFI
Speaker 3: but also Spectrum News. Jokwan is great to talk to you.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 4: I am good, just you know, planning my surf for tomorra.
Speaker 3: You are planning your surf for tomorrow, and that's part
Speaker 3: of the reason why I wanted to reach out to
Speaker 3: you last week. I was asking you informally on text message.
Speaker 3: Did the toxic algae bloom impat you in any way
Speaker 3: or at least your decision making? You told me privately, No,
Speaker 3: You're gonna be out there surfing well tonight. We know
Speaker 3: about this four thousand gallon sewage spill which has shut
Speaker 3: down portions of Huntington Beach and Newport Beach and it's
Speaker 3: been closed since Saturday. Do these headlines impact you personally
Speaker 3: or surfing wise anything.
Speaker 4: No, they don't impact my decision, Like I go every
Speaker 4: morning at dawn patrol, which is when the sun is rising,
Speaker 4: and you go, and you know, it's a little bit
Speaker 4: less crowded, and sometimes I mean that is close issh
Speaker 4: to some of the spots that I like to go to.
Speaker 4: But anytime it rains, anytime you know, there's a little
Speaker 4: bit of sprinkles. You know, they tell you don't go
Speaker 4: in the water for seventy two hours, but I know
Speaker 4: I don't really heed those mornings. If the water noticeably
Speaker 4: looks a little brown gray, I perhaps might wait a day,
Speaker 4: but typically not really. And suage fills, sure, obviously the
Speaker 4: beaches are closed, and you know, when it's at the
Speaker 4: end of a river day, so well, the I guess
Speaker 4: you would say the most southern edge of that sewage
Speaker 4: spill at least, you know, however they do that when
Speaker 4: it goes out and the water floats out is at
Speaker 4: the end of also a river jetty, which is not
Speaker 4: where I typically surf because that's where runoff also goes.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, if it's in a spot that
Speaker 4: I go to every morning, then I might think about
Speaker 4: perhaps picking another spot.
Speaker 3: I don't surf, And there are people who may not
Speaker 3: surf or know some of the ins and outs you
Speaker 3: made mention of if it rains you may wait a
Speaker 3: certain amount of time.
Speaker 2: Why is that.
Speaker 4: They tell you to wait seventy two hours because the
Speaker 4: runoff can bring in chemicals, gas, you know, just stuff
Speaker 4: on the street into the ocean. I know, I've gone
Speaker 4: surfing before. After it rains, there's a particular spot in
Speaker 4: Seal Beach where it just looks like a landfill. After
Speaker 4: it rains, the sand Gray Briol River brings in. I mean,
Speaker 4: there was one day, and I have to say that
Speaker 4: sometimes surfers are a stupid species. But we just go
Speaker 4: because we love it and we ignore all the other things.
Speaker 4: But there's there were bowling balls, mattresses, shoes, just a
Speaker 4: trash pile in the water. We were I didn't know
Speaker 4: that bowling ball until that day. So you know, you
Speaker 4: just kind of when you catch a wave, you sort
Speaker 4: of maneuver around the things in the water. It just
Speaker 4: brings a lot junk in the water, plastic bags, straws,
Speaker 4: bottle caps. One time I found high heels of a yeah,
Speaker 4: I got what you would call a stripper here. Clear
Speaker 4: that was one of the most interesting things I've seen
Speaker 4: in the water. Yeah, so after it rains, you typically
Speaker 4: don't because it can bring in some stuff that can
Speaker 4: get in your ears and your nose and give you
Speaker 4: some bad stuff.
Speaker 3: You're not only part of the surfer species, You're a
Speaker 3: part of the new spec And I say that because
Speaker 3: not only are you aware of the news, you're covering
Speaker 3: the news. You cover the news about toxicology, you cover
Speaker 3: the news about these seward spills. You've covered the news
Speaker 3: about the domoic acid as well. How does that figure
Speaker 3: into maybe what you tell other surfers or how you
Speaker 3: conduct yourself.
Speaker 4: Listen a lot of times with let's say, for example, you,
Speaker 4: I'm sure have heard about the demok acid poisonings, a
Speaker 4: lot of felines stranding on the beaches, dolphins dying, birds
Speaker 4: dying getting sick. I ask questions and do stories, and
Speaker 4: ask researchers and that marians. You know, a researcher down
Speaker 4: in scripts Institution of Oceanography is looking at demoic acid
Speaker 4: and kind of hoping to find different molecular clues in
Speaker 4: the water to say a bloom is about to happen
Speaker 4: before it actually happens. And of course the number one
Speaker 4: question as just a normal person. You have to be
Speaker 4: a reporter, you don't have to be a surfer. You
Speaker 4: see it on the beaches that we enjoy. Can it
Speaker 4: affect us? She said, it's very rare. So it's this
Speaker 4: thing called nitzsche It is an algal bloom that produces
Speaker 4: the neurotoxin that's getting all these sea animals sick. And
Speaker 4: she said the only way a human can get sick
Speaker 4: is if you eat one of the shellfish that is
Speaker 4: filled with the sudanicha stuff. And you know, immediately after
Speaker 4: bloom they do give out warnings of don't eat the shellfish,
Speaker 4: you know, the muscles and all those things in the water.
Speaker 4: So knowing that, I guess they go in armed with
Speaker 4: information just by the nature of my being a reporter,
Speaker 4: but and also just being naturally curious and asking those questions.
Speaker 4: And if it was bad where they said yeah, you
Speaker 4: could get YadA YadA, I might think about not going,
Speaker 4: but it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 2: Joe Quad, you are an early riser.
Speaker 3: I am not for those that just tuning in joke
Speaker 3: on a spectrum news And also Kfi joins us as
Speaker 3: we talk about toxicology. The recent of four thousand gallons
Speaker 3: of sewage spill up and down portions of Orange County beaches. Joe,
Speaker 3: would you get up in the morning? What time are
Speaker 3: we talking about?
Speaker 4: Typically I'm up about five thirty in the morning. I
Speaker 4: try to get out of the house by just before
Speaker 4: six or right around six, and in the water by
Speaker 4: about six thirty am. But they're early risers. I know.
Speaker 4: You know Matt money Smith. I pretty much see him
Speaker 4: every morning we serve together.
Speaker 2: Okay, it took my next question, go ahead, and he's.
Speaker 4: Out there at before six often, so we call that
Speaker 4: vampire patrol because it's dark.
Speaker 2: What type of workout is it for you?
Speaker 3: I see you often post like maybe how many hours
Speaker 3: you're out there, how many calories you've burned.
Speaker 2: What's the physicality of it?
Speaker 4: It depends, you know, if you're paddling hard and you're
Speaker 4: getting longer waves, of course you're paddling back to what's
Speaker 4: called the so it's past that sort of whitewashed sort
Speaker 4: of area a little bit further out. So every time
Speaker 4: you catch one in, you got to paddle back out.
Speaker 4: So it really depends on how how soft the waves are.
Speaker 4: Then you got to paddle really hard to get into them.
Speaker 4: If they're a little bit steeper, then you don't have
Speaker 4: to paddle as hard to get into them, but you
Speaker 4: have to paddle hard to get out back to the lineup.
Speaker 4: And you know, in an hour, I'm doing at least
Speaker 4: an hour every morning, and it ranges for my four
Speaker 4: hundred five hundred calories. It just depends on how hard
Speaker 4: you're working out. And sometimes you know, the waves are
Speaker 4: small and they're few and far between, and it's just
Speaker 4: about being out in the water, in the cold water
Speaker 4: and hanging out and you yeah, you know, three hundred
Speaker 4: four hundred calories.
Speaker 2: Joke quant my last question.
Speaker 3: I often talk about how I try to stay my
Speaker 3: ass out of the water as I get older because
Speaker 3: I don't want things touching me. I don't want things
Speaker 3: brushing up against me. I don't want things biting me.
Speaker 3: I don't want things stinging me. So tell me, Number one,
Speaker 3: have you encountered a shark?
Speaker 2: Ever?
Speaker 3: That's number one? And number two, have you ever stepped
Speaker 3: on a sting ray? You've been stung by jellyfish? Tell
Speaker 3: me all the horror stories.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes to shark I've seen sharks. Southern
Speaker 4: California is again just because of the stories I do,
Speaker 4: which are a lot of beach environment type of stories.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm talking Chris Lowe at the shark lab
Speaker 4: at cal State Long Beach. You know, this is an
Speaker 4: area where juvenile white sharks, the babies are growing up.
Speaker 4: This is a nursing areas, yes, and then there's some
Speaker 4: nurse sharks or leper charts. I'm not exactly sure up
Speaker 4: in Venice Beach that I've seen by my foot. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm not too worried about that, Okay, because I'm already
Speaker 4: freaking you out. But Jelly, I was stung by something
Speaker 4: one time last summer. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 4: Doctor suspected it was some sort of stingray family. And
Speaker 4: yet stingrays are it's kind of like street cred for surfers.
Speaker 4: I guess I've been stung twice on the right foot,
Speaker 4: same foot, different times. You just there's an area in
Speaker 4: Fe'll Beach at the jetty with that is full of stingrays.
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember last summer. The waves are good,
Speaker 4: you just go, it doesn't matter. You're sharing with hundreds
Speaker 4: of stingrays. And as you're riding a wave, you can
Speaker 4: see the little wings of the stingray going along with
Speaker 4: you a ton of them. I'm not talking about one
Speaker 4: or two. There would be maybe ten fifteen surrounding you.
Speaker 4: You just learn how to land, either on your board
Speaker 4: at the end of the wave, or you do you
Speaker 4: make your body like a starfish and you spread out
Speaker 4: so you sort of slash on top of the water
Speaker 4: and not touch the grod. So there are prequestions you
Speaker 4: can take to avoid getting stung, but it happens, Chokewan.
Speaker 4: I'm not helping the case for you to get.
Speaker 2: In the jellyfish, stingray and sharks. Oh my, that's what
Speaker 2: you're telling me.
Speaker 3: Indeed, Jokwan, thank you for.
Speaker 4: Making sure therefore it you're not touching those things.
Speaker 2: So all right, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You already told me you've seen sharks, you've been stung
Speaker 3: by jellyfish and stingrays.
Speaker 2: Thank you, you just sealed the deal, Chokewan.
Speaker 3: Spectrum News, thank you for all your expertise and coming
Speaker 3: on under short notice. And I will say you and
Speaker 3: Matt Mohney Smith beat very safe out there because I'm
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