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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the it Welcome

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to Dary series. Yeah, well I don't like him to welcome.

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That threw me off because when I say welcome again,

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I thought, you know, I screwed up, you know, not

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like this professional opening I'm giving you right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm in the subtitle that we've reviewed.

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Speaker 1: Whoever you're you would think, after all these these years.

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Speaker 2: There should be welcome to the Jungle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do we review that.

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Speaker 2: Though I certainly didn't.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think we've gone to the Javanji.

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Well but I am Oh damn, I don't change my name.

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I'll just say I'm the the dancing clown tress now

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and I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: Hey, my name is Dylan.

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Speaker 3: I am the I don't know about this, Mike taylor Field.

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Goddamn USBC, I know you're talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Taylor has moved. He has a new laptop as well.

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We didn't know if he was driving for his episode,

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so he is here. He's using his Mac microphone. So

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before you hit them with the one star, it's for

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one week. By Thursday newscast Halloween theme newscasts, you're gonna

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be rocking and rolling Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I won't just order off Amazon and seems like, oh,

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I look all these deals. But yes, Lea's Joan. We

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are here to review episode one for it. Welcome to

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Dary obviously. I guess if you're just a patron, you

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can find this, but we have reviewed it. Chapter one,

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chapter two. They are somewhere on the feeds out there.

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I would have re released them, but I think they're

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both of the very old audio Elkin. Usually I don't

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like to re release those unless it's like part of

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like a multi retro where it's like, you know, ten

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to twelve films, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like Taylor's mac USB.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what's worse, you know, the the Roundtable

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ones or this, but no, it's definitely the round Table.

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So look, is this your full new set to Taylor

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with the pillows and the Yes, this you now looks permanent. Okay,

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there you go, So yes, we'll reviewing all these episodes. Uh,

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that's dang it. I forgot I was gonna talk to

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you guys before we went air. We'll figure it out,

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but they are dropping episode two. We're not gonna do

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it on Friday, but they're dropping it on Friday on Halloween.

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So maybe if we're all free Saturday, we could. If not,

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we can do it the regular Sunday. But yeah, so

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look up for that. But yeah, we'll be reviewing this

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as eight episodes. Yeah, you can go back somewhere in

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the Patreon feeds. If you subscribe on Patreon at the

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two face two tier up, you can get our entire backlog.

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There many exclusive episodes. You become a producer, you can

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pick a movie. Just last week we reviewed Bike Riders

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from Sam and you can do a whole bunch of stuff,

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get every single tier and yeah, lots of good stuff.

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And then November twenty is our twenty four hour actually

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have cherry stream, but I'll talk a little more about

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that later. Mister Muss, what were your give people a

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quick but you know in cases our first time listen,

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give them a quick overall Dill Muss's history with the

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IT franchise. And then what are your thoughts on episode

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one here that we were grace with Todnight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my history is that, you know, the the og

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a scared little child, which we talked about on after

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twenty seventeen of that, yeah, reeboot one, right, Yeah.

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land of dairy. And yeah, I don't think I've even

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seen a trailer for this. I mean pretty much any

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trailer I see as recorded via a podcast my reaction

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saw nine episodes, but I see eight. But no, Yeah,

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don't think there's much coverage. So it's a lot of

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the Halloween spirit and all that. This first episode was okay,

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think there's some things to like and hear, nothing really

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could be a really interesting series. So I'm still kind

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Speaker 1: That's fair. Mike is somewhat right where he says never

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trust IMDb, cast EPSO accounts for unreleased shows because there

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even if some stuff may be linked up with some

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stuff you saw tonight. Mister Field, what do you the

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think of tonight's happenings.

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for some context, that original here, Yeah, Crave.

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Shining than I have with it. But you never read

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the good Chinese food.

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what the fun does that even mean? Okay? Walk to Okay, continue.

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just fucking ruined my dinner.

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few things to happen the way they did, and it

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just felt for me, I can definitely get on board

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with what you said they're doing, how the characters feel

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a little bit lesser than what those characters were in

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that first movie, because there's just some magic there with

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how these certain characters acted and their performance was in this,

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missing there, and not like a very very bad way,

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because I really did enjoy the performances and their chemistry

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as it was developing. But yeah, I just I'm quite

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surprised how this episode just blew it out of the

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Speaker 3: I seen the trailer obviously, you know we've talked about.

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story was going to involve. And there's a few things

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that are introduced here in this episode that get me

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really really excited to see where it's going to go.

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further into this story, I'm really excited. This first episode

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was really, really awesome. I feel like the visuals the

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set pieces are awesome. Yes, there are some very cgi

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the saturation and the lighting, it's not anything that I'm

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, for sure, So I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So my history is so I had seen

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the original series. I'll quickly tell a story I should

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all it's this really scary story. So me and my friends.

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I can't remember how I happened. It was one of

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these situations where oh, too young to watch, but we

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got it, so we watched it, but I peple don't remember,

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which I do own the disc version. It was a

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two part so you had to flip it. So for

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years I watched the first part and only the first part,

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and just with Stanley taking his own life and you're like, well,

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that sucks. It's like all the build up to before

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they go to Dary, like the adults to figure everything

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really arts ending that I'll understand when I'm older, Like

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it's just that fear. And then years later I found

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this out and then I accidentally watched part two instead

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of part one, so I watched part two, and then

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of part one, You're like, Okay, it's just happening again.

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then eventually I did love it. I think it was

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like in the like the O two three era, and

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I love that. And then after I did read the

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book because I did used to read more, but all

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the books I was reading were like people would not

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likewise reading Kay's reading that. I did relord the Rings,

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but I was that I was reading American Psycho, I

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was reading Signs of Lambs. I liked that horse stuff

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and Stephen King stuff. I did enjoy right the Shining

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but I still ranked that it's like a ten out

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of ten, like it might be in my top ten.

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I think it does a lot of things perfectly. It

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chapter two big defender of We talked about them after

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night and so you go back and listen to that.

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of it, but I do defend it. So I am

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interesting to see what's gonna happen with the series, because

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like Mike was saying that after nine, this is an

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eight hour version that was like almost a three hour version,

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So will not help it hurt it, I don't know.

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in the middle of you guys, where I think there's

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some low points I have like del but then I

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agreed to it's some high points. I agree with you guys.

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It's just that they're not. It wasn't the magical connection

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that you felt right away with the Loser Club in

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the movie. But also it's tough because a lot of

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those people were not a stash but semi like finnwolf

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Haard was already from strained things, right so I feel

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like that I don't think I've seen any of these

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kid actors before where I feel like a couple of

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those kids like, oh i've seen them there. I remember Taylor,

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the one kid, was like, oh, he's in Shazam, right,

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things where it's like, Okay, they're like kind not cheating.

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imagine than the show, so I agree with that. I

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think it has a really strong opening and a really

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strong ending, and I think you kind of have to

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do that until you introduce certain things because we talked

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about this Alien Earth like a weekly horror show is

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very tough because lots of times it's you meet your characters,

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you get the inciting, incidant, what's the monster, what's the curse,

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and then you ramp that up for an hour hour

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and a half and then it ends right. So for

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a show, you got to constantly keep doing that. I

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think that's where I think they did pretty good with this.

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The pacing. They tried to throwing some scares in the middle,

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those ones didn't work as well, but I thought strong opening,

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very strong ending strong ending. I was like, Okay, now

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we're I'm very curious what's gonna happen next because I

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thought we were going one way and we kind of

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took a swerve. So I'm enjoying that. And yeah, the

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setting too, That's one thing I liked about the original series.

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It's said in that like sixties sort of era, so

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love most that aesthetic. We talked about that on White

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Men Can't Jump, just so certain eras of clothing and design,

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and it's just stands out poppy and I think they

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got that well. And I think it's uh lit pretty good,

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like Taya's saying, but I think there's some good shots.

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There's not big spoiler, and there's some CJI, but I

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think there's one moment something falls from a car goes

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in a river, and that's where you get your title

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car sequence of it Welcome to Darius. Like, oh, I'm

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liking all this stuff so so far, it's like a

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thumb up. It's like I enjoyed that. It's not like,

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oh man, I can't wait for next week. The ending

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is very good, but I am still just kind of curious.

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On some more stuff and more characters we meet. We

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met a lot of people tonight, so I think now

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once we kind of get going and established, we'll see.

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But so far, so good for myself. So yeah, anything

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else non spoilers, No, what's this man doing? Nice casting

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couch tators? Is Kirkling from you know, what's going on

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over in Japan? I wonder if he's even in Japan.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm very active.

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Speaker 1: He's very active. This is the most time I've feel

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like I've asked someone gon answer. Text me the other

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day he read one of my scripts. He's in Japan,

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Kirk And what's going on over It wasn't all he

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wanted to be. We're just bugging you. Uh well, we

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were back after the sad break and we're back. And

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as I aforementioned November eight, you know things. You think

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things are spooky in that show, just wait till those

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three am four am slots get spooky. Here at the

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Geek for his Extra Life charity stream, we're trying to

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raise funds for BC Chones Hospital. All those funds go

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towards care after surgery, surgery, post off, helping with the parents,

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all that stuff. If you click on the link. Obviously

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that's where you can donate and the schedules there and

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a whole bunch of stuff. But also there's paragraphs and

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links and tells you everything that the money does towards

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the BC Chones Hospital and how it helps. But yeah,

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we really appreciate it. Come donate, come trying. We're trying to.

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We got our goal twenty five hundred as usual, but

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if we can even get the two thousand CAD, we'll

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raise twenty thousand dollars for Extra Life. Over Yeah, I

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guess for Extra Life NBC Jones Office. Well over these

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nine years got lots of stuff. We got liars dice,

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we got the key first go on like cup. We

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got a bunch of games. We'll have guests. We got

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the Trivia Battle which is forming up soon. We got

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some more chess happening. We got other stuff, so yeah,

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look up for that. It's gonna be a very fun time.

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And I thought there was gonna be something else. Oh

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and what Tay just mentioned there another good reason. During

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the patron it'll be live La this week, but you

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can get our Shining retrospective, Halloween retrospective. We got side

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quests this week with Dylan and I, and then we

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got a Halloween kind of themed GV episode which will

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be in news, but we'll awesome Halloween fun stuff and

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our full actual life preview and yeah, lots of good

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stuff happening this week. Dylan, I wanted to start with

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you because you said there was a couple of there's

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a one storyline in particular that was you were kind

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of intrigued where it was gonna go. So I wanted

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to start there because I didn't know exactly what we

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were referring to, So I want to dive into that.

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Speaker 2: I think I in that one was referring to the

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kind of army situation going on with a couple other

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people going on here, and yeah, it just it just

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felt really dry and disconnected and kind of not very

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it Like, it doesn't feel like it's connected to the

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things I'm used to. So I guess I'm curious where

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you guys think we're gonna go with that with that storyline, Like,

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are we gonna get to a much larger scale with

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the kind of like villains and things we're dealing with here? Uh,

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to the fact that like the army needs coming here

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with like guns and stuff, because that feels like kind

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of opposite, don't we kind.

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Speaker 1: Of Yeah, I almost got rid of it, tailor, but

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we still got the Uh, it's not the it's not

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the James Ramar Harry, but it is hairy nonetheless there, Yeah,

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because what you describe there, I don't want. I don't want,

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like there's two sides of me. Right, there is a

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fun scene where the army goes down the sewer and

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Pennywise just destroys them, Right, there's some fun in that,

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like just some kind of like malignant or Darth Vader

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in the hallway. We always like seeing these superpower beans

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do that. But at the same time, I don't know

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if I'd rather just have a scene of that, and

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then I don't know if the backstory is gonna be needed.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And at the same point, when you pitch that, I

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don't know if I want the army going down on

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the sewer and looking into this, but.

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Speaker 4: You get that, I think it's just going to be Hey,

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what are you guys holding here? Oh, it's the ship

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or the ast or that Pennywise crashed on Earth and

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kept in that special Project Spunker.

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Speaker 3: I think that's all it is.

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Speaker 1: So how do you resolve that storyline though obviously it's

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like seven episodes from now.

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Speaker 4: But he's gonna be curious what's going on in there,

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and he's got a kid and a wife. That kid's

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going to be friends with obviously the crew or the

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former crew in this town, and I think they're going

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to kind of connect the dots and maybe the kids

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that are still ever going to sneak into the base

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because it's apparently easy to sneak into if you're a

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bad guy and see what's going on in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know because I think that's been confirmed now,

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the Dick Hollering character from Shining, I think that's where

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he's going to interact too, So I don't know where

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that's going to go, see, I don't. I'm very excited

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for that. I'm very excited for that character be in Dairy,

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But I don't know. And I like James Romar, so

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he's always good position. I guess he's just playing the

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same character he wasn't Oppenheimer, you know, just talking about

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bombs and nukes. But I guess I guess we did

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hear that they want to dive into the origin of Pennywise,

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so maybe that's all it's gonna do. I don't know

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if that's gonna make for great TV, But maybe that's

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what's gonna do, is just kind of trace back to

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where this thing started and maybe even plant some seeds

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for the if they get another season, because they want

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to do three seasons or the third season. But I

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bet that's what his. Maybe it's just some origins stuff,

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and I guess, like Tara said, one of those parents

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will get connected with them and that's how they kind

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of believe them that stuff's going on. Right of how

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can we prove this asteroid does anything? Well? People are

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going missing? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's gonna be a fun storyline to follow?

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For the most part across these eight episodes.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. I think there's a chance. No,

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I think there's a good chance there's not. I think,

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like I said, I'll I'll hold up though, because I

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think if we get the Dick holler In character and

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he's around in here and he's like shining and doing

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a bunch of stuff, then I think we could make

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that fun of me. That's why that character's there. So,

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but that's also I don't know if he's just in

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one episode, if he's a supporting character, So I think

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it's TBD. On the surface, I don't think that warrants

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eight episodes. Maybe my hope is that the storyline gets

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resolved by like, you know, three to five even you know,

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then you kind of like, okay, you explain the origins

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and then like that could be a fun cap off

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of if you explain the origins of penny Wise, and

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then that's when Pennywise the clown comes in at that point.

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Speaker 3: Klaran was the driver?

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Speaker 4: And I only say that because the driver was doing

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those mags shining stairs that major.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see him good enough. I don't know because

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I can't remember what the actor looks like. Who's holler in?

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Did he have like the same hair? Did he have

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like a flat top?

473
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,319
Speaker 3: I it was flat. I can't fully remember.

474
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 4: Okay, they made the driver to be having some more

475
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,160
prominent role in here because he kept looking at the major.

476
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: It could have been then, because I just learned last

477
00:20:58,279 --> 00:20:59,920
week when you told us I can't remember what cast

478
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,480
were doing. You talked about, oh, when we do the

479
00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:03,160
shining you're talking about Dick Coller and being in there,

480
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,440
and I didn't even know that. And to that point,

481
00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:07,599
Mike says, I'm a bit worried about them bring in

482
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,119
seem king expand universe into this seems unnecessary. I think

483
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,960
I'm fine if it's kind of like that where it's

484
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,319
one character, Dick Holler, and that's kind of it. I

485
00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,000
don't know how much if you want to take from

486
00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:22,039
other books, but I can see I can see some

487
00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:23,720
of the worry there, Mike of you know, but I

488
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,319
guess for me, I'm kind of I'm a little curious

489
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,119
or jazz to see how the Shining and Dairy interact.

490
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,359
You know.

491
00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is like a storyline that you like.

492
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,079
That's one of the reasons to do the show is

493
00:21:36,079 --> 00:21:37,920
because Okay, we have no more time now because we

494
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,559
want to dive into something like this, or if it's like, oh,

495
00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:41,920
we have a show and we need to fill a

496
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,119
lot more time. So I guess we'll throw in this

497
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,279
like storyline with these army guys and trying to like

498
00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:49,519
dig to the bottom of this kind of thing. I

499
00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:52,160
don't know it. I'm curious to see which side of

500
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,160
the token it falls on.

501
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to Dylan's question too, does this interest you

502
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,480
all this army storyline looking into Pennywise.

503
00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:02,519
Speaker 4: Oh, I love a little bit uh military action shoved into,

504
00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:03,920
you know, a narrative.

505
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,079
Speaker 3: And when it comes to this, that was one of

506
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:06,799
the things with the.

507
00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:09,519
Speaker 4: Trailer that I noted, and I was really looking forward

508
00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:14,039
to and excited to see a military presence involved with

509
00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:15,279
with this, as long as it's.

510
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,519
Speaker 3: Not you know, the whole US military.

511
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,559
Speaker 4: Goes down into the sewers to fight the clown I

512
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,480
don't need that, you penny.

513
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: Wise ripping them up though. That's always fun when the

514
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,279
villains just get the pall because like penny Wise never

515
00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,559
got to do that in the in the in the movies,

516
00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:33,960
which we'll talk, I guess, I'll I'll let you finish

517
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,680
your thought. Then I want to go somewhere because there's

518
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,759
something that with penny Wise is always confusing me, which

519
00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,880
I just I bypassed. I like, okay, cool, but I.

520
00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:41,599
Speaker 3: Won't say no.

521
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 4: You know, if the soldiers go down there and and

522
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,839
they they meet their match, but I think when it

523
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,480
comes to I think they could do something better than that,

524
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,640
and I think that is penny Wise. Like it chapter

525
00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,279
two utilizing adults that are I can't remember the name

526
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:02,880
of that bully, but he was mentally unstable, he was

527
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240
just not doing good, and that he uses him in

528
00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:07,480
prize on his fears.

529
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he uses Bowers and uses Bowers to execute.

530
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,519
Speaker 4: His means, and I feel like, okay, we were establishing

531
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,599
that racist element here, and I wouldn't be surprised if

532
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,200
penny Wise is just trying to you know, maybe he

533
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,440
goes after this military major guy through those racist means

534
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,279
by those people.

535
00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: That are really fearful, and like that one.

536
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,599
Speaker 4: Guy we saw who was just super that's true, not

537
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,200
really pleasant to deal with, wouldn't salute.

538
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: I guess there's two things that like I have with

539
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,960
it because the second part, with the ending, i'll get

540
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,359
to me. We'll start the beginning that ruined Taylor's dinner

541
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,880
and whatnot. But I was trying to think in the movies,

542
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,319
and I literally just watched them. I couldn't remember a

543
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,640
time where penny Wise had kind of possessed Obviously he

544
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,240
doesn't possess, but he takes an image of multiple people.

545
00:23:58,319 --> 00:23:59,559
I know there's stuff where he's in the TV and

546
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:01,279
there's a bunch of kids around him. But I was

547
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:03,160
trying to think of that scene where Okay, his kid's

548
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240
on the run, he's leaving dry gets in a car.

549
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,160
It's a family, which I like is a good setup

550
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,039
because if it's a creepy person, right way you go.

551
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,839
Even if it's just one nice person like oh, it's

552
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:13,119
probably penny Wise, But when it's the adult and you

553
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,079
got kids and everything, it makes it feel even though

554
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:17,720
I think we all kind of felt some bad's gonna happen,

555
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,799
may feel okay, this maybe is a nice or I

556
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,039
thought at one point is this after the fact, because

557
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,680
he was leaving Darry and he said he didn't want

558
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,279
to go back. I was wondering if he was like

559
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,359
a survivor of the it's stuff and we were kind

560
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,359
of get everything played out what happened at that point

561
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,880
because he had a black eye off, which they I

562
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720
think kind of insinuates his his dad's an abuse or

563
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,039
and whatnot. But I think that first it is like, oh, Nett,

564
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,799
maybe he's you know, he had a scuffle with anyways.

565
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:42,519
But I was trying to think in the movies of

566
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,599
him representing multiple people at the same time, and I

567
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,440
couldn't get there because I feel like it's always he's

568
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,200
one thing, right, it's the leopard it's the Mummy. It's

569
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,279
obviously the clown, but I couldn't remember him being or

570
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,839
like Tay says, he'll like kind of put ideas into

571
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,480
one person. But I could remember a time where he

572
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,119
did that, So that may it feel more mind trippy

573
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,920
because always feels like the other stuff it's him transforming

574
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,839
into something where I don't think he could transform into

575
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,039
these four what turns into five things? Right?

576
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,799
Speaker 4: So it was a car actually driving here like on

577
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:15,559
the on the rods or was that like.

578
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,319
Speaker 3: Orchard?

579
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that also confused me quite a lot because

580
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,720
I mean it's been a few years since I've watched

581
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,400
those movies. But I'm like, Okay, I think this is

582
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,400
a different rule than I've seen before in terms of

583
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,880
like what this guy is capable of, uh someth extend.

584
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,599
That is kind of exciting, But then it also makes

585
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,799
you wonder if this is like a prequel to these

586
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:37,960
other things, like does that make a lot of sense

587
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,599
if he's like deep powered. But I guess he kind

588
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480
of always comes back as like a slightly different version.

589
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,519
I guess like every thirty years whatever it is, So

590
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,240
I don't know. I guess it really opens the possibilities

591
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,880
of like what we can get into in this in

592
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,880
the season, and that's an exciting thing.

593
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you can get a lot more trippy scenes

594
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,680
because yeah, I'll say, just described it a little bit,

595
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:58,279
but yeah, he gets in this car. There's some annoying

596
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:00,680
kid doing you know, practicing for spelling of your just

597
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,720
spelling in general, very happy parents, but then things turn

598
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:05,519
for the worst. They get it a little creepy. They

599
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,160
keep spelling words, they start spelling words that are not good.

600
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,759
And then she gives birth to At first what worthing

601
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,079
is a baby definitely not a baby, but just full

602
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,920
graphic shot of everything going down. I'll see the danging said,

603
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,200
I'll see a much more brutal version of what birthing

604
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:23,359
usually is. And then what pops out is some two

605
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:30,240
headed like hell scape demon words. Yeah, yeah, got wings,

606
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,200
and then it just messes everything up. And which is

607
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:35,960
you never know because even though the family and that's

608
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,680
what I'm wondering, if it's to Taylor's point, is there

609
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,680
any I guess it doesn't make sense because the thing

610
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:41,480
she births out. I was just wondering because when that

611
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:43,279
thing flies back to the window, they even look a

612
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:44,880
little scared of the family, So you would think at

613
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,039
that point they've always been creepy. It's a demon why

614
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,559
it's penny Wise kind of making this family act scared

615
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,920
because I feel they're kind of in on the joke, right,

616
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960
but they kind of are, so just don't know that's

617
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,759
further messing up with them. But then, yeah, that thing

618
00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:59,720
takes out the kid off screen. We don't see this

619
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,160
because you know, that's when that sooth of candy comes

620
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,079
out that I talked about earlier. But yeah, what were

621
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,039
your thoughts done on our our little mp here? And

622
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,519
you know, not a good way to go out for

623
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:10,960
I guess I don't even know if this one was

624
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,160
real or not. I guess right, So.

625
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I thought this scene was was really great

626
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200
because one of like a character we're rooting for or

627
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,279
following me, we don't really know anything about him yet.

628
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,480
We kind of get that filled in afterwards, and then

629
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:25,359
we're already getting like pre cool shots or like flash flashbacks.

630
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,359
I guess is the word I'm looking for, like from

631
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,640
other characters later on, So we're kind of learning more

632
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,880
about him, and I'm sure we will throughout the series,

633
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:34,200
so we don't really know what's going on, Like is

634
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,839
there something wrong with him or is there something wrong

635
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:38,759
with everything else? And then yeah, I mean just like

636
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,200
the confusion of like it seems like maybe just one

637
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,079
one of the family members is kind of creepy, but

638
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,079
then they kind of all get more and more creepy

639
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,200
as like the kid, the one kid like pulls out

640
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960
like this tupperware of like liver and is like sniffing

641
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,400
the liver and stuff like that. And then of course

642
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720
you get the other kid doing the classic Pennywise the

643
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,559
penny Wise eyes.

644
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,079
Speaker 1: That was great. Yeah, and he had like a kind

645
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,319
of like the more bucked the at that moment like that.

646
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,079
That's such a good thing that they awest. It's so

647
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:05,039
funny because that was Bill Scarr's guard. He did that

648
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:08,000
in their interview or the interview in the audition with

649
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:09,880
his eye. They didn't know he could do that. And

650
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,880
that's for this version of Anyway is such a good

651
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,039
staple because you just bust that out at any point

652
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:17,240
with CGI and you know, oh, that's not kid man.

653
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,799
Speaker 2: He he maybe technique after the Great Scars. He's like,

654
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,599
that's in the audition to be another next great actor.

655
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
I canna learn how to do this, But yeah, I

656
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,039
think the scene has like a really good momentum to it,

657
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:31,359
building up the intensity and all that kind of thing,

658
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680
and yeah, it really works for me. Mean not to

659
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,359
spoil like how I feel about the final sequence, but

660
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,960
I think that to me, this is like the better

661
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,319
use of the imp thing. It's like more scary to me.

662
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:43,839
I think something about like the confined space perhaps of

663
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,240
like this thing just flying around smashing into windows as

664
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880
we're in just like this tiny little like two meter

665
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,319
wide box pretty much. So uh, yeah, it's I thought

666
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240
this scene was. It was really good, really well paced,

667
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,799
and yeah, the great like kind of cold open for

668
00:28:57,839 --> 00:28:58,640
this series. Really.

669
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna throw tire for his dinner room,

670
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:03,519
but that didn't happen there, and I guess I'll wait

671
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,480
till he comes back because I wanted to talk about

672
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,839
the ending there. But at that point, yeah, that kid

673
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,880
goes missing. We meet a couple of our characters in

674
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,559
the theaters at the beginning, you know, like I said,

675
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:18,079
the sixties landscape, and then you kind of it's interesting

676
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,240
because I was I was worried at first. When they

677
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,359
go to the two, I guess they're just friends, but yeah,

678
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,400
they weren't brothers. The two friends and they're hanging out

679
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,039
and they're talking about this friend. I won't get these

680
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:28,000
characters name because.

681
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Also just Harry, are those two kids?

682
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,519
Speaker 1: Okay? And then the one one missing was Maddie or

683
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,599
Marty or Mary? Maddie yeah, Maddie yeah, Okay. So anyways,

684
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,359
I was worried when they're talking always been missing for

685
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,240
four months. Yet I'm like, oh, this feels very similar

686
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,200
because he said, oh is he right? Like they're just

687
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,640
theorizing what happened to this kid?

688
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:45,839
Speaker 3: Right?

689
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: And that's where right away kind of which I agree

690
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680
with lots of people's problems with it. Chapter two was

691
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:52,559
hitting a lot of beats, and that's where it's like, Okay,

692
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:55,559
we're just doing this again. Is there's a kid missing,

693
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:56,440
is he killed?

694
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:57,079
Speaker 3: Is he gone?

695
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: What's the story? But then I did kind of like

696
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,519
that it wasn't just another friend or sibling. It was

697
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:05,240
people that felt bad because they felt they kind of

698
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,920
failed him along the way. These two seems like they

699
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,839
were friends at some point but kind of fell out.

700
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,279
There was a birthday party that they didn't even choose,

701
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,559
like they forgot to go to with their their mothers

702
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,359
made them go as like a reminder, because clearly they

703
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:20,079
were friends in the past. There is the female character

704
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,000
of Lily. Yeah, she's somebody that was friendly with him,

705
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,039
but he kind of took it maybe and we don't

706
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,400
know because able to learn more, but he kind of

707
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,880
took it as they could be more than friends. She

708
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,640
kind of shot him down, but then as he's running

709
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
away kind of said, oh, let's talk. He didn't want

710
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,279
any of that. I don't think Ronnie, who was the

711
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,400
girl at the movie theater, I don't think she failed them.

712
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,799
You know, she helped them out. She tried to get

713
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,759
that worker away because she said, you remember, he's like,

714
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:42,960
where're you going? Oh? Went that way. So I guess

715
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,759
her tie right now is just that this crap happened

716
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:47,680
at her movie theater, right, I guess right.

717
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's she's also hearing the music and

718
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,079
things like that. Yes, even though she's not directly tied

719
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,279
to the kid a whole lot other than like that

720
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,960
one little moment, she's still is bound to him in

721
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,759
the sense that she's like hearing the the voices and

722
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,279
the music and all that creepy stuff.

723
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like that That's the way it ended.

724
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,519
Up going as far as how they were connected, kind

725
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,119
of a friends group. That's kind of you know, if

726
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,720
you're not always together, but it's not just a run

727
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,640
of the mill the exact same way, and you know,

728
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,880
there are similar problems. Someone's lost their dad, there's abusive

729
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,359
there's an abusive dad, lots of lots of pain. I think, Ronnie,

730
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,759
I don't know for sure. I don't know if we

731
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,559
met her mom in this episode. Did we hit all

732
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,920
the theater kid? Yeah, and we met her dad, So

733
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640
I just like, that's another one where And don't get

734
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,640
me wrong, that's another reason why they have the Pennywise

735
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,799
character go after these characters, that they go after people

736
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,680
that they aren't weak, but they might have some pain

737
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,599
that they can kind of take advantage of. So that's

738
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680
where that could come in. So yeah, and then I'm

739
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680
trying to think if there's anything more in the meet

740
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,079
c with them. We didn't even actually meet Maddie's parents

741
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:53,559
there or anything like that, So.

742
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: No, no, do you think we will like are they

743
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920
going to be are they kind of the classic parents

744
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,519
in a movie like this where like they're kid goes

745
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,079
missing and then they're they're kind of like these recluse

746
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:05,079
like crazy types when you finally when the kids finally

747
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:06,960
built with the courage to go visit their home, and

748
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,839
they're being kind of weird, a little bit dejected, maybe

749
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440
add acting a little erratic. We could see something like that,

750
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,519
But do you think we get the parents?

751
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,599
Speaker 1: And I guess they did only mention the dad really right.

752
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920
I don't think he mentioned his monk because his dad

753
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,960
was the abuser, So that could be another broken home thing.

754
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,759
So I think we might in a small see nothing

755
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,680
nothing imperative though to the plot. Maybe just ah, because

756
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,759
probably more kids will go missing and maybe the parents

757
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:34,119
will start to kind of do the weapons route of

758
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,680
where's our child? Where's this? Things are happening at da

759
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,200
da Da Da? And then yeah, we did transition to

760
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,680
army stuff. I don't think I have anything more to

761
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,720
say on the army stuff, do you not?

762
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,319
Speaker 2: Well? What about that like invasion that happens at the

763
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,279
at the base?

764
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't.

765
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:50,079
Speaker 2: Kind of confused me. I feel like I need to

766
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,839
watch the scene again, but I don't really know what happened.

767
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,519
Speaker 1: I thought it was just because clear they they have

768
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,440
the character's name, he shows up for his first day.

769
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:03,799
I just had it here, where is it? Leroy Hanlin?

770
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,240
So he's seeming like he's gonna be more of a

771
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,559
higher ranking official than a lot of the people there.

772
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,599
I could be wrong. I took it as because when

773
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,480
he gets there, clearly there's one guy. There's several guys,

774
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,799
but there's one guy they specifically are making note of

775
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,400
that Troy t Row was going. I wasn't sure if

776
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,079
it was like a like a quietly romantic thing or

777
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,279
a racist thing. They definitely went, Okay, he's racist, and

778
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,920
he doesn't like that he's taking charge from somebody he

779
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200
deems lesser than him. That's I thought it was just

780
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,400
him and his other like asshole buddies dressed up to

781
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,319
try to scare him away or try and to mess

782
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,759
him up. I could be wrong, but especially because the

783
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,759
guy they give him all these commands like, oh, dude,

784
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:42,440
if you take your mask off, So I feel like

785
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000
he was trying to insinuate that, hey, take that off

786
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,839
so you can reveal that you're also just another soldier

787
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,839
whatever ranking officer, and that would kind of blow your cover, right,

788
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,519
and you know, ramar so far Harry saying I don't

789
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:55,000
want any of that there, you know, so we'll see

790
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,279
if he's a genuine character that's actually sticking up for him,

791
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,759
if he just is kind of saying these things. But yeah,

792
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:01,759
that's how I took is that they were the assholes

793
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,480
that were just kind of hiding their identity. I think at.

794
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,839
Speaker 2: Least that makes sense. That makes sense. We'll see you

795
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,480
where that goes.

796
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: I guess we were just talking about some of the

797
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,599
kid characters. Do you have any thoughts for talking about

798
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,400
their connection with Maddie, Friend Gone missing? Kind of a

799
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,760
broken friends group, et cetera.

800
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, definitely a broken friends group, now, that's

801
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:22,519
for sure.

802
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 3: I liked the pieces, you might say pieces.

803
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,639
Speaker 4: I liked them getting into the initial research trying to

804
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,239
figure it out. And I liked that the one kid

805
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,360
he I can't remember what his name was in it

806
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,800
chapter one, but he was like an equivalent of that

807
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,119
with this, the way he was acting with girls and

808
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,480
just that dark humor and just the swearing.

809
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,119
Speaker 1: And the cussing like oh, Richie.

810
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he kind of reminded me of Richie. And

811
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,599
so when he.

812
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,039
Speaker 1: Right, he's trying to watch the older lady and the

813
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:55,239
window see your breasts and stuff.

814
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, he brought his younger sister into this, Okay, that's

815
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:01,199
kind of like a.

816
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,039
Speaker 1: Fun so random, which she just pumped up.

817
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: And then when she was actually in the theater and

818
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000
like shit was hitting the fan and she was freaking out,

819
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,320
like this is fucking terrifying, like this is crazy. So

820
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,000
I like that that it was a bit of a

821
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:17,599
curve ball and fucking then she died, which is just

822
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:18,599
fucking wild.

823
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,159
Speaker 1: Well, they all died, all of them, but the other

824
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,760
other than because obviously Ronnie was manning the film, but

825
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Lily and yeah, that's what we're talking about before and

826
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,800
that that's where I guess before we exactly get in

827
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,280
that scene, and I want to bring up before I

828
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,760
forget that's something where again I tried to Headcannon. But

829
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,480
with the penny Wise stuff, I always take that, okay,

830
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:40,440
you know, because why does he not just kill you

831
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,280
right away? Case sometimes he likes to feed, but he

832
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,679
likes to try to build up the fear because they

833
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,119
taste better and all this stuff. He's explained it before, right,

834
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,000
And that's where maybe this is just I don't think

835
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,400
it's right after. I guess it's four months after. Man,

836
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,199
he's gone missing, right, So I could take it as

837
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,960
because I remember in chapter two, right when Pennywise gets out,

838
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,960
he eats a guy right away, and you may go, okay,

839
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,440
he's just starving, right, But with this, I was kind

840
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,360
of surprised. It was great for the shock value that

841
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,360
we lost these four characters, and I couldn't believe it,

842
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,039
Like these people are on the poster. So we lost Maddie,

843
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,480
we lost the two boys, lost the sister. So I

844
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:13,360
plawed them for that, for doing something different, because right

845
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,320
away now it doesn't feel I'm sure obviously there's still

846
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,079
gonna be kids in the show, but I don't feel

847
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,920
like it's gonna be an exact just copy of it

848
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,280
chapter one and two, where here's your core five and

849
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,039
you're gonna fall them. This was right away, oh no,

850
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,559
we're doing that for an episode and then gone. But

851
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,079
I also was just like, why is penny Wise killing

852
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:31,800
him so quick? Like he likes to keep them, he

853
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,800
likes to put them in the sewer. So it feels

854
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,079
sometimes at odds with the penny Wise lore of what

855
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,199
they kind of set up. But then you know, because

856
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,320
it's just it's like just certain plot armor, right, Why

857
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,039
does penny Wise not just kill people like this rapidly?

858
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,159
All the time. But of course our Marrin characters have

859
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:49,599
to be like Cox, I would feel, because sometimes right

860
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,119
he can't kill them because they're not scared. I'd feel

861
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,920
Lily and Ronnie are probably pretty terrified right now, so

862
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,119
I think he can just pop up anywhere and get them,

863
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:58,760
you know. But again, well.

864
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: That's that's one of my favorite things too, because when

865
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,559
you see Maddie.

866
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,199
Speaker 1: Is his name, the one that went missing, Yes.

867
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,679
Speaker 3: Maddie, I'll watch out Maddie.

868
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,639
Speaker 4: So Maddie at the start. I like that moment when

869
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:11,159
he's in the car and shit hits the family, he

870
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,320
puts his past fire in and that like this whole

871
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,280
scene kind of freezes, and I feel like I'm not

872
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,519
a baby anymore. But for a kid you put a

873
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:21,880
passfire in, I feel like that's just a moment of

874
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,159
serenity and peace and you're not afraid of comfort. And

875
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,280
so when he does that, everyone's head and the heads

876
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,079
in the car will turn and lock on him. And

877
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,960
there's that brief point which from a point which reminds

878
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,559
me of it chapter one, when I can't remember who

879
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,199
had the broken arm, and then penny Wise was about

880
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,079
to like eat it and was tormenting him. But then

881
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:44,039
the other two kids upstairs, they stopped at the great

882
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:46,559
and just picked the door, and then penny Wise just

883
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,199
snaps out of it and just turns into like turns

884
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,760
off into the house because he feels those kids just

885
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,320
drop their fear. I feel like this is an equivalent

886
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,679
scene where he puts the fast fire in and then

887
00:37:57,679 --> 00:37:59,760
the head's just the whole scene freezes, the heads turning

888
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,800
and look at them. It's like, Okay, he's fighting his

889
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,480
fear right now. And then they act like they kill

890
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:06,119
him because they don't like it anymore. And I think

891
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,639
that's the thing with this. I think these kids were

892
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:12,119
just so already afraid that he just jumped on them

893
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,559
and took advantage of that while he could. And I mean,

894
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,800
that's another thing I'm looking forward to as well. I

895
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,760
feel like this is gonna Yes, it's Scars Guard, it's

896
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,199
the familiar Pennywise, but I feel like this is a

897
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,960
different time period and we might get a very different

898
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,239
Pennywise in here where he's not as cocky as he

899
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,559
was in those later movies, where in this go around

900
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,840
he's much more cutthroat and to the point.

901
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 3: And I like that.

902
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: Okay, then why do those girls get to stay alive though? Right?

903
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,480
Because if that's like the ultimate hot armor, Yeah, that's

904
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:43,000
always my thing, right of this thing is flat. Like

905
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,199
when he brought the one kid up in the sky

906
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,519
and just tearing pieces, I thought, Okay, we're gonna lose

907
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:49,400
like one of these kids. I'm like, that makes that

908
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,079
could make sense too, leads, we got a bunch of

909
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:52,920
other But when he's tearing the little girl and she

910
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,800
comes out, she's still holding little girl's hand, you know,

911
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,920
very very effective ending. Obviously the theater screen was very

912
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,079
similar to like you know, we've seen it right when

913
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:02,920
they did the kind of the picture show. But again,

914
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,000
I think a good ending for people to want to

915
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:06,639
tune back in. So mm hmm.

916
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,079
Speaker 2: And it's not like Lily did anything to defend herself

917
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:12,599
or get out of that situation. She very much just

918
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,719
got it super lucky. Or maybe yeah, maybe it's Pennywise.

919
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: There is a reason anywise keeps her alive, right, Maybe

920
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:21,079
that's there's something there.

921
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess the idea too, is that's the

922
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:25,599
way I always try to work too. Is they they

923
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:28,880
want or he wants the fear imagine to spread throughout

924
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,800
the town, right, some more people that talk about it,

925
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
maybe spread it easier to go that way, so.

926
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: And maybe leaving it specifically as the girl who's already

927
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,280
kind of no one really believes her because she had

928
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,920
this whole situation with her dad and she spent some

929
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,000
time at like a psychiatric hospital something like that, and

930
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,880
people already kind of perceive her as crazy. So she's

931
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,719
the one who's kind of spreading this information around. Now,

932
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,639
I guess that doesn't really stand for Ronnie making it

933
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:55,960
out of there, because she kind of is in the

934
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,960
same situation, right, But or she doesn't have that same situation,

935
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,840
she doesn't have that perception of her, So we'll see.

936
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,920
But I guess literally being the one who's closer is

937
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,920
actually friends with all these other kids, including Maddie, but

938
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,920
also the three that just got taken out.

939
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: But then I guess the juxtaposition there is these kids

940
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,400
are actually going missing now, right, It's not like Maddie

941
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,159
four months ago. Now this is and I don't know

942
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:18,719
who else is gone. I wonder if they'll reveal us

943
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,559
in the four months, there must have been other people

944
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,599
going missing, right, Unless this is why Pennywise killed these kids,

945
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,000
was just going on this Smorgan's border this day. You know,

946
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,880
I don't think so.

947
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,559
Speaker 3: Well not to remember too.

948
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 4: He doesn't just like kill them and eat their bodies

949
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,039
right like he I don't know the whole scenario with

950
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,280
him and his digestion, but he opens his mouth, puts

951
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,639
them in that eye trance and lets them float right,

952
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:42,159
the floating bodies with the kids.

953
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,679
Speaker 3: So at least that's what in chapter one.

954
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dead eyes I think they call him or whatever.

955
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:50,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so I.

956
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,079
Speaker 1: Guess maybe there's some people he deems that he like,

957
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,480
like he wants hanging around, and there's other people that

958
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:56,519
are just you know, quick meal, you know.

959
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see how consistent the show is with

960
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,840
this ver it's just having fun.

961
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,519
Speaker 1: With it, yeah, or was just yeah, exactly right, because

962
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:06,840
I have you can still even make that case for

963
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,920
those original movies of the because I don't tell you

964
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,039
talk about the door opening up between IT one and

965
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,199
IT chapter two, they talk about, oh, when they weren't friends,

966
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,400
there was like a month or something they weren't together.

967
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,639
It's like, well, and Pennywise was still just messing with them.

968
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:20,760
It's just like, why didn't he just get them? Like

969
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:22,599
you guys were split up. The whole point was as

970
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,920
you guys were together, and that's maybe strong, but it

971
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,840
is just kind of to you know, delay the plot

972
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,760
a little bit, get some stuff going. One more point

973
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,719
I thought to bring up about this, but.

974
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:37,679
Speaker 2: That specific scene or something the.

975
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: Thing around it, but if I can't remember, so if

976
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,960
we got somewhere else to go, let's go there.

977
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,679
Speaker 2: All showed out a sequence two scenes I really liked

978
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,960
was when we were with Phil and his family. It's

979
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,840
like a family dinner. It's kind of an awkward family

980
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,719
dinner where he's supposed to be kind of doing his

981
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,639
his Hebrew studies or Jewish studies, whatever's going on there,

982
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,360
and his dad like catches it that he has like

983
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,599
a comic book in there instead that he's clear been reading,

984
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:03,719
and he asks of yeah. He asked him like, hey,

985
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,159
how's your studies going along? He's like, oh, the dinner's good.

986
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,199
Like he's just like clearly not paying attention. Kind of

987
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,320
messes that up, and I don't know, I thought there

988
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,920
was like a really interesting I don't know, comparison, I

989
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,800
guess metaphor they were drawing there between He's asking like

990
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,360
he is it possible for a kid to like be

991
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,800
alive down in the sewers for months, and then he

992
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,559
like compares that to what it was like to be

993
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,440
like in the Holocaust of you know, like Jewish people

994
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440
having to like hide a hide away. At least, that's

995
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,119
like the angle. I thought they were kind of going

996
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:30,960
for it, and he doesn't like explicitly say that, but

997
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,159
he kind of is going in that direction. So I

998
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,000
thought that was kind of an interesting angle. And then

999
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:39,280
he brings up like the uh idea of people's skin

1000
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,280
being turned into lamps, and then that kind of turns

1001
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,599
into the bedroom sequence later on, which I thought that

1002
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,119
was terrifying, just nasty because even when he said that,

1003
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,119
that just makes your skin fucking crawl, Like I don't

1004
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:50,320
know if that's actually.

1005
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: True, if that happens, suh.

1006
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I could believe that that would happen. So

1007
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,639
that's like just absolutely disturbing. And then like see that

1008
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,519
and like the visuals of that I thought was really

1009
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:01,800
really good. And the way they played with the lighting too,

1010
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,960
and how the lamp is kind of slowly rolling around

1011
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,199
the corner of the bed, Yeah that was cool. So yeah,

1012
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,079
I really like that sequence, And yeah, I kind of

1013
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,159
thought we'd maybe get more of that family dynamic and

1014
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,760
dig into now and still be gone now, I'm not

1015
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,360
so sure, Like maybe the parents will come. I guess

1016
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
they'll probably still be in there because they're gonna ideally

1017
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,039
look for their kid, because I I, well, his body

1018
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,039
was still there though, Like I guess that's the thing

1019
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,599
is like he got thrown into the window. We saw

1020
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,679
his face smash into it. But then I don't know

1021
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:33,079
if Pennywise comes back to like eat up all the yeah,

1022
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,760
you know, I.

1023
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: Feel like it's always kind of a mix and match

1024
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,239
where it feels like sometimes there's something left behind and

1025
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,639
then other times like he got the cleaning crew out

1026
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:43,800
and has the plastic sheets.

1027
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,639
Speaker 2: Like like the one hand of like the the other sister.

1028
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,679
I guess, like, yeah, it remains of her, But I

1029
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,320
don't know if they're able to find like, oh, this

1030
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,559
is clearly fills the dead body, or if they're gonna

1031
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,199
think that well, Lily, we don't believe you, you're crazy?

1032
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,119
Where did where did he go?

1033
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: That? Kind of yeah, which that would be interesting because

1034
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,199
obviously with in like the original one with God, why

1035
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:05,800
who's the little kid Georgie? When he goes missing, that's

1036
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,320
a big deal. In the show. Right in the movie

1037
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,199
and other people do go missing, but there's not that

1038
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,719
too many crime scenes are like what we talked about,

1039
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,239
So I think that would be something for the show

1040
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,519
to kind of put in the forefront. Is multiple kids

1041
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:20,679
dead and everybody knows about it, right, It's not kind

1042
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,559
of like this, oh ho hum, are they gone? Are

1043
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,440
they missing? Or are they killed? They running away? If

1044
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,719
it's just a theater with a bunch of dead bodies

1045
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,159
and everything, and now you know, obviously I don't know

1046
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:31,760
what to do for the owner. I feel like obviously

1047
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,079
he would be and that's I guess probably the situation

1048
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,760
that happens a lot with Pennywise, right he just gets

1049
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,320
put on a human. They go, oh, he must have

1050
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,199
did it because it's his theater. But that could be

1051
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,920
that could also give Ronnie a reason to try to

1052
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,519
prove this. Right, what if her dad, especially, they're already

1053
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,360
they're hitting on the Jewish and Judaism stuff. They did

1054
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,360
this in the IT movies too, and they're already doing

1055
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,400
this with the army character Leroy, with the racism. What

1056
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:55,119
if right away her dad gets arrested because oh, it's

1057
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:58,320
your theater, dead bodies automatically you're going to jail because

1058
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,960
it's the sixties, right, which still happened sometimes, so there's

1059
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,719
some kind of stakes you could do if they're not

1060
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,119
cleaned up right away. So but yeah, no, I did

1061
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,320
like that, and I did like Tony Tae with the

1062
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,719
comic book because I feel like he was kind of

1063
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,159
asking me that kid also be alive. And the dad said,

1064
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,400
I'm tired of living in like in fantasies, and he

1065
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,280
throws the book away. But yeah, like Taire pointing out

1066
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,119
he was in the folder was the Flash. Obviously, any

1067
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:21,599
Mushetti directed the Flash, and then when he was in bed,

1068
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,559
he's reading Batman, which as of right now, Annie Muschetti

1069
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,239
is supposed to direct the DC Batman. So kind of

1070
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,639
fun to have those little nods in there to stuff.

1071
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:30,679
And it was the first issue that clay Face ever appeared.

1072
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:33,400
Clay Face has a movie coming out next year, so

1073
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,599
that also is just by accident, because.

1074
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: I imagine directing any of these episodes.

1075
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,679
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I imagined by accident because

1076
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:42,480
they shot this a while back ago. But uh uh no,

1077
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:44,639
I like that, even the fact that the lamp she

1078
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,199
had like hair and stuff. It was a pretty grotesque

1079
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:48,079
little thing going on.

1080
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:49,119
Speaker 2: So disgusting.

1081
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember the thing I can say, so

1082
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,800
I don't think I have one note of a scene

1083
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,119
that I didn't like, and that's it.

1084
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 2: Okay, All, I guess another quick show is little and

1085
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,400
literally in the bathroom. I just feel like we've seen

1086
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,920
this in ten million horror things before, especially it's very

1087
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,239
it coded, so I guess we kind of have to

1088
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,320
do it. But just like I don't know, looking down

1089
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,880
the drain, fingers come out, oh that one. Yeah, I

1090
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,800
don't know, just seeing this kind of thing a few

1091
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,719
times before, so it didn't really excite me that much,

1092
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,360
but you know, it is pretty tied to this material,

1093
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,559
so I guess we kind of had to do it.

1094
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was waiting for some more than the

1095
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,639
finger I thought I thought there was gonna be something more,

1096
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:28,719
but it's tough. Yeah. I thought you're talking about the

1097
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,039
bathroom scene with Lily and her friend, because that's also

1098
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:33,960
seen We've seen many times where people go in the

1099
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,920
bathroom and they go into a stall or somewhere to

1100
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,400
discuss it, and then they hear somebody and they go out.

1101
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,920
And there's this terrible joke where it's like either an

1102
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,199
older girl or teacher. They walk out and someone farts

1103
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,480
and she goes it was me and she runs away. Yeah,

1104
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:48,920
and then they go right back to the exposition. It's

1105
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,480
just if I was in that room and I just

1106
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,360
caught it, just like go to the expert. Yeah, just

1107
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,079
keep the exposition. It's just like, I'm not I'm not

1108
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,239
trying to be like far jokes, aren't. I'm not saying

1109
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,599
that like they have. Every type of humor usually gonna

1110
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,480
have its place if done well. It was just I

1111
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,400
don't know what they were going for here. It just

1112
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,760
did not work for me. And yet, like you said,

1113
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,199
hey kind of pulled me out for a second of

1114
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,159
what was that? It just felt like something completely different.

1115
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,679
This is the fact we've already seen a kid killed.

1116
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,440
You know, I know they're trying to because I guess

1117
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,159
like obviously, and that's the thing. I don't know if

1118
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:21,280
that happened in chapter one. But you talk about the

1119
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,400
Richie's character like he did lots of jokes and outrageous

1120
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,599
suff So that's why it just sometimes depends the delivery

1121
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:28,480
of it and the pacing. I just thought on the

1122
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:31,760
weird scene of talking about kind of you know, high

1123
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,800
school and bowling. And because there's a situation where it's Lily,

1124
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,159
I ca't remember the other girls, but they're kind of

1125
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,400
that's already a friend's partnership. You can feel kind of

1126
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,440
breaking right because she says, oh, I'm weird, like we

1127
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,079
gotta think what's gonna happen to you? And she goes, oh,

1128
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,000
what about us? And she's kind of insinuating that because

1129
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:47,719
she's kind of, you know, if you as like a nutcase.

1130
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,719
She doesn't want to almost be associate with her all

1131
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,440
the time, right, She kind of wants to go on

1132
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,920
her own path. So I was digging all this. Okay, yeah,

1133
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,360
we're establishing these two girls and why the thing's kind

1134
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,599
of breaking down and whatnot. And then you know, fart joke.

1135
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 3: So cool?

1136
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,199
Speaker 1: Why not? But yeah, that was my last note.

1137
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, uh, I don't know if you know

1138
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,679
the answer to this, either of you guys. But a

1139
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,119
director you mentioned the director? There is this? Are we

1140
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,800
having different directors for every episode? Is there a mix

1141
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,280
of people?

1142
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: I think this guy, I guess, just like Mike said,

1143
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:21,239
you never know, and I'm I'm pretty sure it lists

1144
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,639
him as two, So I bet I could see him

1145
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:26,239
doing maybe, Like, I feel like, what either happens is

1146
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,480
they do the first two or they do the the

1147
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,199
premiere and then they do the finale. But that's right now.

1148
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:34,280
He directed this episode any miche because I knew that

1149
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,480
was there, but I don't know. I think we'll have

1150
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,039
to see. Let's see, I'll see if I can find

1151
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:40,400
out directing.

1152
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: I felt like, uh, it seemed like, you know, pretty

1153
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,000
solid budget was in like this first episode, So I

1154
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,360
don't know if they just kind of busting out all

1155
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,760
the stops for the pilot here or for expecting to.

1156
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,559
Speaker 1: See nothing like this, nothing but log trucks coming up.

1157
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder I wonder too if episode two

1158
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:01,679
is a big his alert, if they're like dropping that

1159
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,679
one on Halloween night, Like I don't know if they

1160
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,880
plan that in some way, if it's more just like

1161
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,519
a happy cool incidence. They're like, I will bump it

1162
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:10,760
up two days early, but it's just kind of you know,

1163
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:12,000
regular episode.

1164
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like if I don't know if this

1165
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,199
was the plan along. If it was the plan, then

1166
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,119
it should be something juice. And I just feel like

1167
00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:22,800
if you are released on Halloween, because I've obviously I've

1168
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,880
made a bunch of complaints about that. I don't know

1169
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,920
why they you know, it's a finale in December, but

1170
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,760
I think that's a smart thing to do. And uh yeah,

1171
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,440
I think that episode two could have some some more

1172
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,199
juice in there. But I could not find the information

1173
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,559
of the exact episodes, so we'll have to, uh what

1174
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,960
the lookout for that because I.

1175
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 2: Think like Mike's directors are attached to this.

1176
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't think anything Bay like, I guess probably big

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for us, right. I bet there's probably some people that

1178
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have done some shorts or some other stuff like uh what, Oh,

1179
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I don't know. I don't know. It's I'm to be

1180
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says one. But then Google is saying four, so I'm

1181
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gonna out maybe he directed the whole thing. I don't know, Okay,

1182
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just said he was included to attached direct multiplepisodes, including

1183
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,119
the pilot. So there you go, so multi episodes, Andy,

1184
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we got our answer.

1185
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Speaker 2: We'll find out next week.

1186
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will watch for at least it came up there.

1187
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's all for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything notes or anything we haven't touch upon.

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Speaker 4: I really did think that we would get like penny Wise,

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like full full bod in.

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Speaker 3: This episode, but we didn't.

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Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, like you, with the release of episode

1193
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two on Halloween, I'm kind of thinking that we'll get

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him like in his full appearance, maybe next episode.

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Speaker 3: But I'm thinking at the same time, maybe they.

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Speaker 1: Hold your breath a little bit, hold your breath a

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little bit.

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Speaker 4: You think it'll be it'll be like mid week at least,

1199
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or something like that, like mid season, mid season they.

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Speaker 1: Drop another bonus episode. I think it's Yeah, I think

1201
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it's gonna be a little later into the season, you know,

1202
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,159
I think I think I think everything else is budget

1203
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to as best you can. Bill Scar's guard not for

1204
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,400
aw too. John Wick a little more expensive nowadays than

1205
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he was back in the chapter one day, So I

1206
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think they're like, you know.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get that for a few more episodes.

1208
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But like and to be honest, and that's where

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I'm I'm excited because this is it's different still, right

1210
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the original series that's only like three and a half hours,

1211
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because it's just really two parts. People call it series,

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but just a two part mini episode thing. But I

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will be interested because even in that, especially in the

1214
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second half, penny Wise is not really in that that much.

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He has some big scenes, but Tim Curry is not

1216
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like full front and center, same thing. It takes swat

1217
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,800
to get to him. And sometimes he's a dog, sometimes

1218
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,400
he's a ware rolf, he's a mummy. Sometimes he's just

1219
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,760
like Bev's dad. So again it's penny Wise is like

1220
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,039
technically you've seen you know, penny Wise the creature, but

1221
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:46,280
you just haven't seen the clown form. Right. But even

1222
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,599
in that original series with Tim Currey, he just he

1223
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,599
was I'd like to see the screen time, but he

1224
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:53,400
goes missing for multiple times, right, or appears for just

1225
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:55,519
five seconds where you see him wave and you think, oh,

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he's in here the whole time. So so be interesting

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how they how they use them because I guess and

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I bet they probably want you to kind of enjoy

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some of these characters first before you kind of get

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to the main event, even if he's in there last.

1231
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,639
I feel they kind of want you to hopefully you

1232
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,280
cheer for them. So it's not just kind of like

1233
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the later sequels of like Halloween or Nightmare, elm the

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Street where you just want to see Freddy chop up

1235
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:21,559
the next victim. Right, Like all these actors aren't great.

1236
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:24,039
These characters. Can he just kill them in a cool way,

1237
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:25,400
Like I think you want to try to get to

1238
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,760
a point where, oh I don't want to see these

1239
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,920
characters die. P anywise, back, but I guess we'll see. Well,

1240
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there you go, Lidiam. We'll have a review at some

1241
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,719
point next week. Like it won't be Halloween night, we

1242
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,840
will be busy doing stuff, but either Saturday Sunday we

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will review it. And I promise you it'll not be worn.

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Speaker 2: See you