1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:13,439 your host from giant bomb dot com. 3 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to be talking about Ditto 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,960 carrying Nintendo on his back, and we may be getting 6 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:23,399 multiple new PlayStations soon. Okay, one of them's a toy. 7 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:25,280 It's gonna be a good one because we have Janet 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,079 Chowa on the show. 9 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: Jan how are you doing. 10 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:29,719 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm gonna say that I have the 11 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:33,039 unique claim to fame that I have not only been 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,679 on this program twice this week, but both iterations of 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,640 your regular decular Game Mess Mornings and the special bonus 14 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:43,640 edition of Game Mikey Mornings. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you holding down the fort. Thank you to 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,359 Mikey for a running the show while I was gone. 18 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:51,679 I want to come out and get on the record, 19 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:54,960 jan I got to talk about something, all right, I listen. 20 00:00:55,039 --> 00:00:59,119 I might have said that I do not like Launch. Look, 21 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:03,280 that does not mean I don't think it shouldn't be 22 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:07,920 called Launch. Look, no, Mikey likes it. It's he's the 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,719 one doing the work. He's an owner of the website, 24 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:13,480 and it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't go 25 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:13,920 on YouTube. 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: All right, that's all. 27 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:19,079 Speaker 3: That's well, then it matters that it matters. 28 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,079 Speaker 1: That's well, yeah, exactly, well that's what he said, he 29 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:25,040 and he already he already agreed to that. So my 30 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:26,719 point is, like, why are we getting all hung up 31 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:29,359 on it. I'm I'm backing my boy Mikey on it. 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,280 We can put it on the as. That is the 33 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:32,159 name on the website. 34 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:34,159 Speaker 2: Let's do it. Launch. Look everybody, it's here. 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it. But yeah, look, Jan I missed 36 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:42,480 you guys. I'm glad that I could be back doing stuff. 37 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:45,719 You guys seem to be holding things down. Dan got 38 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:47,879 to not punch alligators? What happened there? 39 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: So? 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: I think everyone was telling Dan that in the RI 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,799 seven DLC the end of Zoe, that a major component 42 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:02,280 is punching alligators. It turns out you can't do that 43 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:02,680 at all. 44 00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: How you try to punch the alligators, you very specifically 45 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:07,120 will fail. 46 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:10,319 Speaker 3: Yes, So now I'm starting to question Ben Hanson's sense 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,120 of reality. Yeah, but we did get a power up 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,199 at the near the very tail end of the DLC 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,120 that would turn the game into God Hand. So you know, 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,319 I'm curious to see what Capcom has planned for R 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,000 nine dlc IF and when we get there, always. 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,599 Speaker 1: A good reminder that Capcom knows exactly what Resident Evil 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,520 is when they're like, let's just make it God hand, 54 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:37,759 all right, we should get into things and explain ourselves. 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You can also catch the show later 77 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:33,400 with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 78 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: Hello Lotube, all right, everybody, let's do this. We got 79 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,759 the news. 80 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,039 Speaker 1: Let's start with Pokemon Pacopia surpassing two point two million 81 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:44,039 units sold in. 82 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: The first four days. That's quite a bit. 83 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:49,639 Speaker 1: Sophie McAvoy over at a jetab Is basically wraps that 84 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:52,800 up and says that shortly after launch, Nintendo's share price 85 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:55,240 has also jumped by ten point five percent. It's actually 86 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:58,960 up even more than that now. Yeah, it seems like 87 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,800 this might be doing work. As the kids say, this 88 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:07,759 Pucopia is catching on, Like, I think like something happened 89 00:04:07,759 --> 00:04:09,199 in the week's leading up to it from the previous 90 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,599 where I'm like, I think this might be big. Even 91 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:12,199 when I was saying that, I didn't think it was 92 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:13,759 going to be this big jam And this feels like 93 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:16,800 it could easily turn into the next Animal Crossing, selling 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,519 twenty twenty five million copies over the next little while. 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of my friends are are not super 96 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:26,160 into games, and you know, more of your casual gamer 97 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,839 have been asking me, yo, is it worth it to 98 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:32,639 get a whole switch to and this game? Right, I've 99 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:38,319 only ever really played Animal Crossing stuff like Overcooked and 100 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,560 other similar games, and I'll and I'll generally I'll tell 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,920 them like, hey, if you can swing it, I would 102 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,839 swing yes. 103 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: If you're looking to have the same sort of experience 104 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:51,079 and feelings that you get from Animal Crossing, yeah, this 105 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:53,839 is delivering on those in a way that it's not 106 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:56,600 just the game, right, it is everyone else playing it 107 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,639 and sharing stuff and having a huge group of people 108 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,600 to go share the stuff with, whether it's like in 109 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:04,800 your DMS, in your discord, or just on social media. 110 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,199 Like that's you can't. 111 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Buy that, Actually it's really hard to get. 112 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:10,639 Speaker 1: So pairing that up with what is a really solid 113 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,000 one of these kinds of social simulators, they really got 114 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,600 something right. 115 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:14,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,199 Speaker 3: And on top of that, the other thing I make 117 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,000 sure to let everyone else know is that like, hey, 118 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,600 you're not as limited by the clock as you are 119 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,319 in Animal Crossing, like you don't reach the end of 120 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,800 a day and really can't do anything. 121 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: But if you like that stuff. 122 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,959 Speaker 1: It's also still in there, Like you can build a 123 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,399 building where it's like, oh, this is going to be 124 00:05:33,439 --> 00:05:36,920 ready tomorrow. Cool because that has happened. That's something to 125 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:39,240 look forward to. But it's not like, okay, and now 126 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,959 it can't do anything else. It's really smart about that. Yeah, 127 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:45,480 it's not just one carrot on a stick. It's several 128 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,319 carrots on a stick to keep going, and you can 129 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:52,079 keep being busy. And if you get tired of one biome, 130 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:54,319 if you've progressed far enough in the game, you can 131 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,040 head over to another one, perhaps another one, and then 132 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,439 just start doing what your your heart wants to do 133 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:04,959 in the game. Perhaps you want to terraform the island. 134 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,519 Perhaps this time you want to like actually make homes 135 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,839 for people, and and it's it's great. There's always something 136 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:12,759 to do in the game. 137 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost intimidating. 138 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:17,879 Speaker 1: How once I realized how much stuff there was to do, 139 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,680 I'm like, do I want to like stay on this 140 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:22,240 treadmill so I'm confident enough to use all these systems 141 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,759 And I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna pick 142 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,399 and choose what I want to engage with and uh, 143 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:28,040 and then even as I'm doing that, some of the 144 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:30,720 stuff that was formerly like intimidating it's like, oh no, 145 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,120 I am kind of curious. I should start working on 146 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,439 that as well. And the game onboards. You onto that 147 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,399 stuff eventually, and it's it's just really well done. I 148 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,079 did was like bummed out. I was like, as soon 149 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,319 as I was about to leave, I'm like, we should 150 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,399 have done a video where it's like, what would I 151 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,959 leave out? Like not cigarettes anymore? Jane, You're getting you're 152 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:50,279 getting healthy. But I was gonna make my little Pacopia 153 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,759 attraction thing for Jana Choa. I was gonna put out 154 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:58,120 Hennessy and stuff like that, and Alyssa Liu poster, just 155 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,160 just things like I'm like, oh look look everyone, look 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,600 the grass is shaking. And then jam pops out. So 157 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,680 of course I have that idea as soon as I'm leaving, 158 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,800 and I was like trying to think what mine would be, 159 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,319 and it's like just a bunch of dad games. 160 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: I think, oh, okay, that's actually a good idea. We 161 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:14,839 should we Okay, someone write this down. We should all 162 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:16,560 list what our habitat would be. 163 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: All right, hang, I'm gonna remind me tomorrow before you know, 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,160 on before the BombCast on Tuesday morning, to do this 165 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,000 thing with our Pokemon habitats all right, cool, that'll remind me. Hey, 166 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,240 I was kind of glad that we got to hang 167 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:35,839 up for a little bit. But it's like, next time 168 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,800 when I'm an SF, I'm gonna make it a Jana 169 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Choa trip. I want to just like go there and 170 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:41,800 have you show me all the real stuff. Too busy 171 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:46,759 at GDC this year, Yes, GDC, Grub. I have always 172 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,959 been around the periphery of it, never actually gone to it, 173 00:07:50,279 --> 00:07:53,240 and I as for like ten years for me, geez, 174 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,680 and from my understanding, grub. Also, the Moscone Center must 175 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,480 have changed significantly since the last time you went. Yeah, 176 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:03,519 but I don't know if a lot of people are 177 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:05,480 just more excited or just general attendees. 178 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,519 Speaker 3: GDC proper in terms of the exhibition floor hadn't even 179 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,319 opened until yesterday, but when you gave your talk on Monday, 180 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,639 it was still super packed. 181 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: It was nice to see. 182 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we could like talk about it a 183 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:20,800 little bit because it's like, yeah, I really did. 184 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,079 Speaker 2: It took up all my time. I went to a 185 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,040 bunch of panels, and like, one thing I. 186 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Noticed is like, oh, yeah, there's still people who are 187 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:30,639 super passionate about this. And even though a lot of 188 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,279 the talks are still kind of focused on, Hey, how 189 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,399 can we build these machines so they can extract more 190 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,519 value or so that you can find the money. Of course, 191 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,600 it's a business, so that's what it's going to be 192 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,679 the focus. But it's like, no, there's just a lot 193 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,639 of people here who want to make cool video games. 194 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: And it was packed. You're right. 195 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: It was cool to see despite the fact that not 196 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,559 a lot of people from overseas, but still a few 197 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,120 people from overseas, and for as danger said as it 198 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,240 must be to travel here, I'm very thankful that they 199 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,799 showed up because the show was better for them, as 200 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:59,080 of course it was. It always is, so yeah, it 201 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,320 was great to see those people. All right, let's keep 202 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:06,879 going here. Xbox unveils first tech details of its next 203 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:10,559 generation console, co named Project Helix. This is from Vicky 204 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Blake at gi dot Biz. Xbox has revealed limited technical 205 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,200 details about its next console co named Project Helix. Addressing 206 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:22,240 attendees at gdc VP. Next of Next Generation Jason Ronald 207 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,120 confirmed Helix will deliver high performance and provide the ultimate 208 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,919 player first experience. Blah blah blah. What are the specifics here? 209 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:32,080 They have a couple of things. They are working on 210 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:35,919 a system on a chip, an SOOC with AMD, just 211 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,519 like their previous consoles or their most recent consoles. They 212 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,000 are also really focused on neural rendering. I can ever 213 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,759 say neural it's kind of like basically just upscaling and 214 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,159 all these techniques of machine learning to make sure that 215 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,840 they can run games on modest settings and get really 216 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:53,759 good visuals. And they have a whole stack of stuff 217 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:55,960 they're talking about making that the focus of for this console, 218 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,960 because they also want to have super duper improved ray tracing. 219 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:02,120 So that's one of the buzzwords we're still getting here. 220 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,639 And then beyond that, they're saying, hey, everything that is 221 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,559 an Xbox game should run on this device, and you 222 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,399 should expect alpha hardware to go out in twenty twenty seven, 223 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,360 so like that's early developer alpha hardware so they could 224 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,840 start making games for this device. It still sounds like, Okay, 225 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,600 they're very dedicated to this thing. I get the sense 226 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,399 they're trying to treat it like an old Xbox would 227 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:28,279 have been treated at this point in its lifetime, of 228 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:29,919 like let's go to developers and try to get them 229 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,799 excited to support this platform. 230 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: Part of me though, is like, oh they are. 231 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: It still sounds like they're trying to set this up 232 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,080 as the equivalent of like one of their surface tablets, 233 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,120 where it's, hey, let's make a reference version of what 234 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,679 PC and Xbox hardware can be, and we'll stand back 235 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:50,279 sell maybe ten to fifteen million of those, and then 236 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,080 our third party partners can maybe do something similar. And 237 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,679 does that strategy sound like something that is exciting for 238 00:10:57,759 --> 00:11:00,320 you as someone who might want to get hardware and 239 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,240 something that could get you know, support from developers. 240 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: I don't know, Grub. 241 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:08,399 Speaker 3: I can't say that I have any excitement for whatever 242 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,840 Project Helix is supposed to be or the PlayStation six, 243 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,399 mostly because greb like, I'm just thinking about how insanely 244 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,639 expensive both of these consoles are going to be. We've 245 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:24,799 already seen the Steam Machine, which is something I was 246 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,200 vaguely curious about checking out in terms of thinking about 247 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:34,960 acquiring for the home get soft delayed into vaguely twenty 248 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,720 twenty six. I just don't know what these consoles would 249 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,399 be able to do that I can't do already, or 250 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:50,279 what they could provide to me outside of like exclusive games. 251 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 But also Grub like it takes a while for developers 252 00:11:53,879 --> 00:12:00,000 to get accustomed to a new tool set for a console. 253 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:04,519 So even then at launch, whenever this would theoretically be, 254 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:08,120 they're not. Everything is going to have the juice. 255 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's the kind of thing where it's like, okay, 256 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:16,720 they are they talking about having Like when a person 257 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:18,240 makes a game for this device, are they making a 258 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:19,639 PC game or an Xbox game? 259 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,799 Speaker 2: Like? What does that look like? 260 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,639 Speaker 1: It probably is a PC game because this thing is 261 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,879 a PC underneath, and Xbox games will happen to work 262 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:29,879 on it. It's kind of how I would think about it. 263 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,279 So then the question is stuff like Xbox Live Gold, 264 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,440 which is it's not called gold gold anymore, but you 265 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,200 do need a subscription to play games online if they're 266 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,039 a premium price game like a Call of Duty on 267 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:42,679 your Xbox. 268 00:12:42,759 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Is that that's going away, right because this is a PC. 269 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,279 Speaker 1: So it's it's just this thing where Okay, there's a 270 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,120 lot of questions here. And while they might be, you know, 271 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,399 presenting it as something that was as big of a 272 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,879 deal to them as an Xbox One X or an 273 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Xbox Series X and S, I don't think that is 274 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,159 actually the long term goal. And when I have more 275 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,919 questions than answers right now, which is you know, normal 276 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,080 for this point of the announcement cycle for sure, But 277 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:11,480 this time around, when I have more questions than answers, 278 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:12,559 that's not exciting to me. 279 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:14,159 Speaker 2: That's I continue to be worried. 280 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's if anything, that's more concerning Grub if we 281 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,279 also continue to be to have more questions pop up 282 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,440 and I just don't know who needs this right now. 283 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, you know, especially when we start 284 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:30,200 talking about price and all this stuff, people are going 285 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,320 to keep asking that question. 286 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: It's it's going to be difficult to answer that. 287 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,639 Speaker 3: Like, like grub, I have friends that will are all 288 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,159 about getting the newest iPhone of that year, Like they'll 289 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,399 upgrade every single year. They don't care what the new 290 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,519 specs are. They just want what is new. Yeah, that 291 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:51,360 attitude is kind of changed within like the last two 292 00:13:51,879 --> 00:13:54,720 like last year to the last two years, mostly because 293 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:59,759 of like everything else in the proximity of electronics is 294 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,639 just getting progressively more expensive. 295 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:06,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, at the very least, it does seem 296 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,600 like they are trying to take a step in a direction. 297 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:14,960 It is not like Xbox is getting shoved completely to 298 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:15,519 the side. 299 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:16,919 Speaker 2: They are. 300 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,639 Speaker 1: You know, they had something to say about, you know, 301 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:23,919 the last group of leaders and their strategy of everything 302 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,039 is in Xbox and they came in and like, hey, 303 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,639 that we completely disagree with that and we're going to 304 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,600 go in a different direction. It's like, okay, well what 305 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:33,440 does that look like? And it's like, oh, they don't 306 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,919 know right away. This is this new leadership is like 307 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,679 very very new, like they just went in a few 308 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,879 weeks ago. So it's like, I'm not surprised again that 309 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:43,799 they don't have a bunch of answers. So as they 310 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:45,720 start talking about it in this way and it's like, okay, 311 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,879 they at least seem like they are trying to form answers. 312 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,399 Speaker 2: Okay. 313 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I just don't know how much patience I have for 314 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,519 that brand anymore, because it's you know, I care about 315 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:57,159 playing games, and I'm gonna be able to play any 316 00:14:57,159 --> 00:14:58,879 game they make on any a bunch. 317 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: Of other devices. So this is for me personally. 318 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Something where I'm like, huh, I'm not sure if I 319 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:04,919 need to be pan attention quite yet. 320 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 321 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: For the position that Xbox has put themselves in, Grub, 322 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:11,200 I don't think of them in my head at least anymore. 323 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,720 As like a console platform. I just think of them 324 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:21,360 as a gigantic publisher now where despite you know, gamers 325 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:27,519 cornering Asha Sharma into saying that console exclusives are coming back, 326 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,759 I don't believe that's actually the case because Xbox would 327 00:15:30,759 --> 00:15:34,320 be so much based off of everything they've already acquired. 328 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:39,000 If they're going to limit the release of all of 329 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,799 their games to whatever the next console is, it just 330 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:42,559 wouldn't work. 331 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,399 Speaker 2: Yep. I agree. There is more out of this though. 332 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Windows elevens Steam deckish streamlined Xbox Gaming UI comes to 333 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,799 all PCs in April. This is from Andrew Cunningham at 334 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,799 Ours Technica. When a sus and Microsoft launched the rog 335 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:01,799 Xbox ally X last summer, it came with a bespoke 336 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:05,840 controller driven full screen interface running on top of Windows eleven. 337 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:09,519 Handheld was still running Windows under the hood, and you 338 00:16:09,559 --> 00:16:12,759 could still bring up the typical Windows desktop at any time, 339 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,559 but it defaulted to the full screen Gaming UI, then 340 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:20,039 called either the Xbox Experience or Handheld or Xbox FSE, 341 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,240 depending on who you asked. And when Microsoft said it 342 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,440 would be available on all Windows PCs at some point 343 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,000 in twenty twenty six, it meant it meant April, So okay, 344 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,120 this is one of another one of those things where 345 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:33,879 it's like, is this just a one off they put 346 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:36,600 out the rock Xbox ally, is this going to improve? 347 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:39,159 And it sounds like no, this is part of taking 348 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,159 steps towards building whatever this new Xbox is, and this 349 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:46,559 fse Xbox experience is going to end up on all 350 00:16:46,559 --> 00:16:50,159 of these devices here in a little bit. Okay, Yeah, 351 00:16:50,159 --> 00:16:52,120 this is another one where I'm like, I definitely want 352 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:56,240 this to be improved on any sort of Windows device 353 00:16:56,279 --> 00:16:58,559 because I do want to use Windows handheld Jana, Like 354 00:16:59,039 --> 00:17:02,639 what just came out Mare from Bungie Marathon, pretty famous 355 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:04,319 for saying that they weren't going to make their anti 356 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,960 chet for Destiny work on the Steam Deck because it's 357 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:10,119 Linux and they didn't want to worry about all the 358 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,200 headaches that that would entail, so they're like, look, just 359 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:13,559 go play on a Windows device. 360 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: Marathon is here. 361 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:17,279 Speaker 1: It makes it pretty clear it's not going to work 362 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,680 on a Steam deck and it probably wouldn't work visually, 363 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:22,000 but just you know, if there was an improved Steam Deck, 364 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:24,240 they wouldn't have the support for that. I want a 365 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,160 reason to keep going. Hey, these developers don't want to 366 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,559 have to do the extra work. I want to pick 367 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:30,440 up my Windows device just sort of boot up one 368 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,200 of these games. Every time I do that, though, if 369 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,119 I haven't used it in a month, it makes me 370 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,839 tear my hair out because I have to update five 371 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,960 different things and I always forget where they are because 372 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,880 it's in dumb little apps to the side and in 373 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,279 its and it's in the Windows settings, and it's in 374 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:47,519 the AMD launcher or whatever. 375 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: So fix that, make it better. 376 00:17:50,599 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: And I hope that they are motivated enough at least 377 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:54,720 by the Xbox to get that done. 378 00:17:55,240 --> 00:18:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is my hope is that if they are. Well, 379 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:04,319 that's also my confusion, Grub is that, yeah, they have 380 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,880 definitely pulled away from the ethos that everything is an Xbox, 381 00:18:09,599 --> 00:18:15,880 yet they still want to create this streamlined experience when 382 00:18:16,519 --> 00:18:19,599 for Windows when it comes to playing games. Yet this 383 00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:21,480 isn't an Xbox, this is Windows. 384 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: Okay. 385 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,079 Speaker 3: Can I play games on this sometimes? And again, like 386 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,240 you said, depending if you can manage to trigger the 387 00:18:29,319 --> 00:18:33,759 right sequence of events at the right timing to make 388 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:37,279 sure a game runs. For the folks that want this 389 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:40,440 out there, I really hope that Microsoft is able to 390 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,920 get this to work otherwise I will continue dreaming and 391 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,920 thinking about Linux. 392 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, an improved version of Windows that 393 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,039 has this real gaming mode that is separate and has 394 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:56,559 better performance. That would be really nice because it would 395 00:18:56,599 --> 00:18:58,400 make things a lot less of headache on a desktop 396 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,640 where I'm probably gonna keep Windows for the most part, 397 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,720 although I also. 398 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,799 Speaker 2: Keep sideye in Linux. 399 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:08,839 Speaker 1: All Right, we're not quite done with Xbox talk, but 400 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,119 let's bring in the PlayStation as well. Both PlayStation six 401 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,119 and Xbox Helix are apparently launching Holiday twenty twenty seven, 402 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,680 according to at least one rumor. This is from Jonas 403 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,240 Mackie at Game Reactor. It's starting to feel like we 404 00:19:21,279 --> 00:19:23,359 have a pretty good picture of Xbox Helix, what kind 405 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,279 of console it is and what kind of performance we 406 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:28,640 can expect. Development kits will start shipping out next year, 407 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,480 which means game development isn't likely or is likely in 408 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:35,160 full swing. But what about the PlayStation six. We've heard 409 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,640 rumors about that too, but not nearly to the same 410 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,839 extent as with Helix. There's no doubt that no doubt 411 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,039 that it's on its way, though, Does this mean that 412 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:45,240 Microsoft will get a big head start on Sony just 413 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:47,559 like it did with the Xbox through sixty No, not, 414 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,119 if we believe one of the Internet's most prominent hardware 415 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,119 insiders we are talking about Kepler two, who writes on 416 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,240 neogaff that Xbox and PS six are still on track 417 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,279 for Holiday twenty twenty seven. He clarifies that the same 418 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,480 applies to the rumored portable PlayStation device. Jan that's that's 419 00:20:05,559 --> 00:20:10,079 really soon. You know, twenty twenty six is already flying by. 420 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,279 You know, we're well into March now, it's we're gonna 421 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:15,759 be at the end of this year in no time. 422 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,359 Does that mean we should be expecting kind of NonStop 423 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,200 new hardware rumors if it's launching within the next nine 424 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:24,279 to twenty four months or yeah, yeah, in that timeframe 425 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:27,359 or eighteen to twenty four months or whatever it is. Yeah, 426 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,920 that's that seems pretty soon, especially for the PlayStation six. 427 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,799 Speaker 3: I'd like to pose a question to the audience here, 428 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,240 grub is or have you folks at home that maybe 429 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:44,279 only play games on modern consoles? So the PS five 430 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:48,359 PS five proh the current Xbox, do you y'all think 431 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,240 you have gotten like full use of it? Have you 432 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:58,200 like use that thing and gotten the max experience and 433 00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:01,480 max enjoyment out of it. However, many years into this 434 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:05,519 generation we are, and I think I'm seeing a lot 435 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:09,799 of no's, some more spirited nose as well, so grub 436 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:13,119 like I can't And for you and I and other 437 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,359 people in games media, I think I feel the same 438 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,640 where I still haven't got full use out of a 439 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,799 PS five yet, I still haven't felt the need to 440 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:22,720 even upgrade to a PS five Pro. 441 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:23,799 Speaker 2: Yep. 442 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: Same, And it's like I am the sucker that is 443 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,200 the person that they aim these things at, where it's like, 444 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:33,039 let's get I'm excited to spend money early in the 445 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:37,119 generation or on an upgraded PS five Pro, And the 446 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:40,039 narrative that they've been able to weave around these devices 447 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,279 or at least the PS five Pro and probably what 448 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:45,240 will happen with the PS six is just not that compelling, 449 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:49,720 especially at the price that we're talking about, and especially 450 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,319 after You're right, I think it's a two step story 451 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,599 of is that worth it? And do I feel like 452 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720 I got my money's worth out of the last thing? 453 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 454 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: And when both of those are iffy, it's going to 455 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,039 be a tough hill to clue. And twenty twenty seven 456 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,640 just feels like too soon to start like getting past 457 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,400 that narrative again or lack thereof. 458 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: You know, this is this is one rumor. 459 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,279 Speaker 1: I bet there was at least one time where these 460 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:13,799 systems definitely both were aiming for. 461 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: At some point, some point in twenty twenty seven. 462 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know with ram prices, Now, that's got to 463 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:21,359 be the straw that breaks the camel's back, because it's 464 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,359 a straw that weighs seven million fucking pounds. 465 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:27,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, greb. And also, like I I don't think PlayStation 466 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:34,960 would lose out on much if Xbox, you know, hypothetically 467 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:39,000 released their next generation console sooner than they were ready for. 468 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if anything. 469 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: I think that gives PlayStation more leeway to kind of 470 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:51,839 handle the situation depending on how Xbox's new console would launch, 471 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,319 right of, like, hey, maybe don't need that. We still 472 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,720 got all this shit over here. You could still play 473 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:01,000 Fortnite over here. That's fine, you know. 474 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:06,039 Speaker 1: And they're getting some of the machine learning improvements to 475 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,519 visuals and stuff like that, Like you know, Xbox is 476 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,720 promising better textures because they're going to be able to 477 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240 shrink the textures and use machine learning to improve those 478 00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:15,640 as well. A lot of that stuff is showing up 479 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,519 in PS five PRO right now. So it's like they 480 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,440 kind of are bolstered against a lot of the improvements 481 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,519 that will be promised by next generation because the episser 482 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:28,279 improvements are still yet to come to PS five Pro, 483 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,519 and that should make an actual noticeable difference. You know, 484 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,039 we're talking relatively here again, Is it enough of a 485 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,440 difference to get you to spend the seven hundred and 486 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920 fifty dollars or whatever it is to upgrade from PS 487 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,680 five I think most. 488 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:41,759 Speaker 2: People are probably still no. 489 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:44,799 Speaker 1: But like then you start comparing it to one thousand 490 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,599 dollars new Xbox hardware that is also PC, and then 491 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,799 it's like, Okay, the PS five pros looking pretty good 492 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,880 for that, especially if I want more performance out of 493 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,119 like a Grand Theft Auto six. 494 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,279 Speaker 3: The other aspect, Grub is that this has to come 495 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:01,559 into play that they are concerned abouttential price, right, like. 496 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were gonna be like top tier concern. 497 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,559 Speaker 3: Like if we're even looking at this year alone, and 498 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:12,519 the concerns about everything happening now, God knows what's gonna 499 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,119 happen in twenty twenty seven, especially when we get to 500 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,200 the holiday season of twenty twenty seven. Like, there are 501 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,079 people losing their minds about gas prices now, food prices. 502 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,119 How are we even supposed to entertain the idea of 503 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,240 any form of entertainment moving forward into next year. 504 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I couldn't sleep last night. 505 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: I was, you know, on West Coast Time, and it 506 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,799 was I think I'm also coming down with something from GDC. 507 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,559 I got a little bit of a cold and fighting off. 508 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:43,839 I feel fine everybody, but just I'm fighting it off. 509 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,720 And it was keep me awake, and it was definitely 510 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,119 cost me to have like, oh weird little nightmares. But 511 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,720 I was like part of it was like I started 512 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,200 waking up and I was like, what was that nightmare? 513 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: And it's like, oh no, I think I'm just remembering 514 00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:54,119 the news. 515 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm just remembering like like paying attention for 516 00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,759 a few minutes too long and realizing, oh, I live 517 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:01,839 in Children of Men my literal nightmare. 518 00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: Look around. It's just like that. 519 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's bad out there if people are 520 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,880 having to deal with that. As much as we value 521 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,039 video games as escapism and we do like it's really 522 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,400 nice to have Pacopia right now, it's it's very eerily 523 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,200 similar in some ways to having animal crossing when the 524 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,000 pandemic was happening, and in a lot of ways, like 525 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,440 a lot more sad because it's like, God, the things 526 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,599 that we have to ignore now are actually even worse. 527 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,640 But it's like, if people are trying to just get 528 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,240 by day to day and then you show up, we're like, hey, 529 00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:40,720 your escapism now is extremely more expensive than what you 530 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,160 paid for last time, and last time, you don't feel 531 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,960 like you've got a good deal. People are going to 532 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:48,880 start feeling burned. They are going to look for alternatives. 533 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,559 And I do think that's where you know, a Steam 534 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:53,400 machine is going to look a lot less impressive visually, 535 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,400 performance wise compared to these these bespoke consoles going forward, 536 00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,279 but it still might be this alternative of like get 537 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,359 me out of these crazy you know, you know looney 538 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,319 bins where I have to spend all this money on 539 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,079 you know, eighty dollars games, ninety dollars games. What are 540 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,279 these Steam sales are looking really impressive at the very least, 541 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,880 people might just start looking for alternatives. So I think 542 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,680 Sony even like even has to be pretty careful and 543 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,200 obviously Microsoft has has to figure a lot out, and 544 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480 that's if they are launching in twenty twenty seven. 545 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,599 Speaker 2: Oh, that's going to. 546 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,799 Speaker 3: Be rough, right, It's going to be incredibly rough, grub 547 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,880 And I think you like hit the nail on the 548 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,200 head with Pacopeia, where this is not a great game 549 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,880 that is like graphically impressive, right right. It leans on 550 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,440 its style very heavily, and it's it's not pushing the 551 00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:43,119 boundaries of anything on the switch to really, but there's 552 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,559 just enough charm and enough of a game there to 553 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,640 keep you playing. And obviously you know the story from 554 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,920 earlier today, selling two point two million units within the 555 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000 first four days, and that number is just going to 556 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,000 keep climbing, Yeah, as the game starts picking up more 557 00:26:58,039 --> 00:26:58,799 and more esteam. 558 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,599 Speaker 2: So I. 559 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,079 Speaker 3: Just don't understand why PlayStation at Xbox don't see make 560 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,680 good game game sal We're good YEP. 561 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,279 Speaker 1: One of the aspect of this we didn't talk about. 562 00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:16,279 We'll just do it briefly. This handheld also with launching 563 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:18,319 twenty twenty seven, according to this rumor, and that's the 564 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,400 PlayStation handheld. That is one of their ways that they 565 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,720 can really shake things up and sort of approach a 566 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,000 generation from a different way than they've done so before 567 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,200 you know, they've been extremely consistent, put out a much 568 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960 more powerful PlayStation than last time, and the PlayStation three 569 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:36,119 it was like weird with some very bespoke hardware. They 570 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:39,000 learn their lesson from that, and since then it's like 571 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:41,319 off the shelf stuff, work with partners that are very 572 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 well known and deliver that, and it's like that has 573 00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:46,720 always worked for them, them sort of anticipating that that 574 00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,799 might not work as well for them, it's going to 575 00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,200 be difficult. They've never had to sort of try to 576 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,880 pivot before. I think the handheld would give them a 577 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,759 lot of opportunity to sort of say, we'll experiment on 578 00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:58,759 that side of things. 579 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: And I bet there's people in. 580 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: That audience, people who would pick up handholds that would 581 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,119 be a lot more willing to say, Hey, what does 582 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,920 a PlayStation on this device look look like? Because I know, 583 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,880 if I really want the old experience, I'll just go 584 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,319 get a real PlayStation that has a disk drive, maybe 585 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,880 even still, which would be like I think a big 586 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,039 win persony if they showed up with that still with 587 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:16,640 the PS. 588 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 3: Six, Yeah, the like part of it, Grub is like 589 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,400 with this new generation of consoles also possibly looming over 590 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:33,279 the horizon, I desperately wish that they just if I 591 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,079 just want them to look cool, if anything, because like, yeah, 592 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,359 I like the design of the PS four, slim, like 593 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:45,880 the little baby one we eventually got, but in however 594 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,519 many years removed. Now I think the PS five is 595 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:52,799 so fucking ugly. The thirtieth anniversary edition of the PlayStation 596 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,559 consoles that they launched like last year, two years ago, 597 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,000 I think are absolutely gorgeous and improve the look of it. 598 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,319 But the look of the PS five as a whole 599 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,960 absolute garbo. 600 00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm definitely I like how ugly it is, 601 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,599 but I think I still agree with you that. All right, 602 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,759 let's go back to something traditional and Sony cool or 603 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:16,319 nineties weird. 604 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: That this is not nineties weird the PS five. It's 605 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:19,759 excuse me, you. 606 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Know, like the liquid metal look of like some of 607 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,799 the Sony MP three players or something like that. 608 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,839 Speaker 2: That stuff I would I would like to have back. 609 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,119 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll go that way, So give us 610 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,799 the traditional Sony like, oh, that's just a sleek piece 611 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,759 of kit. All right, Let's let's take that break. We 612 00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,640 got plenty more to talk about after these ad messages. 613 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,559 If you want to skip out on these messages, you 614 00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:41,720 can do that. Go to giant bomb dot com slash 615 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,000 Join become a premium member. There you can find ad 616 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,039 free versions of all our shows, including this one, for 617 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:50,319 both audio and video. In the meantime, we will be 618 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:57,519 right back. It's Game Mess Mornings Jeff Grubb, jin Achoa 619 00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:01,680 back at it. Let's get into these headlines once. Another 620 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,039 new PlayStation Jan, this one a Lego PlayStation, is reportedly 621 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400 apparently coming this year. This is from Chris Copindio at 622 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,799 GameSpot who I trust. Lego enthusiasts can soon build and 623 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,599 own the original PlayStation in brick form, according to a 624 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,640 prolific leaker purporting that a Lego set based on Sony's 625 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,400 first console is releasing at the end of twenty twenty six. 626 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:28,559 An Instagram user with the name Lego Minecraft Goat, who 627 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,319 has a history of leaking Lego sets, claimed in a 628 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:35,880 post that a one eleven piece PlayStation set, including at 629 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,799 least the controller and the console, will be out this 630 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,039 December and cost one hundred and sixty dollars. I believe 631 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:46,160 this because I want it to be true, Jan, because 632 00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,680 I'm a big fan of the look of that original PlayStation, 633 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,440 especially these days, and you know these consoles have been 634 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,160 pretty fun to build. I think that this would encourage 635 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,519 more of these give us a dreamcast, right, keep doing 636 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,000 this work with all of these companies, and I hope 637 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:05,160 that sort of puts us on the path that to 638 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,559 the point where we do get those What do you think. 639 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:12,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, Grub, this is like the type of let's say, 640 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,599 console preservation, historic preservation that I really enjoy. Like, I'm 641 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:20,480 not the type. I'm not one of you Sikos yet 642 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:25,279 who knows that wants to like go grab every old 643 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:27,799 console just for the sake of having it. 644 00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:32,319 Speaker 2: But if it's in lego form, though, Grub, that's cool. 645 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,519 Though exactly it really is. It's cool. The game Boy 646 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,319 is fantastic. Yeah, I hope they just keep doing this. 647 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: I hope that Sony's like on board, let's just do 648 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:46,039 all of our consoles, give us, give us the PSP. 649 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,039 Speaker 2: What the hell? You know? 650 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,319 Speaker 1: When they do this for Nintendo often there are things 651 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960 like for the Game Boy, the the images you can 652 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,720 slide into the game Boy screen so it looks like 653 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,519 you're playing Links Awakening or whatever. What could they do 654 00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:03,880 with the PlayStation to accomplish something like that. They probably 655 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,319 wouldn't have the CRT like they did with the NES, 656 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:09,400 they would probably make it something else, like something on 657 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,079 the memory card. 658 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 659 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: I'm like looking at the game Boy set that I 660 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,720 have now, and I think what would get me go 661 00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,599 and grub is just like a working door, like the 662 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,920 disc door and like the buttons. 663 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,079 Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, oh yeah, Actually the pressing those buttons 664 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,880 always felt good. If they could just sort of replicate 665 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960 that even a little bit, but especially the door openings, 666 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,839 there's something there and then there can even like be 667 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,480 something inside that would be cool. 668 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:41,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like all those gone really good at like parts 669 00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:42,880 that can come on and off and that are designed 670 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,799 to come on and off, and like I had a 671 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,960 little bit of motion. It's not super complicated in the 672 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:53,519 Game Boy one of course, but if this PlayStation one, 673 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,839 and it's also supposed to cost like what grab one 674 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,599 hundred and sixty dollars, Yeah, that's right, I would hope 675 00:32:58,599 --> 00:32:59,720 for something to spin. 676 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know at that price with this 677 00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:10,440 many pieces. They have done equivalently equivalently difficult things in 678 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,599 their builds before, for like Nintendo devices. 679 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I would kind of hope. 680 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: So, like you know that CRT right, has like the 681 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,920 spinning Mario scene for the NS kit, So yeah, I 682 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,519 would expect something like that, and they're they're really good 683 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,640 at that and that they know that's a gimmick that works. 684 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,319 So yeah, I hope so as well either way PlayStation. 685 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: This is very cool. I hope we get a lot 686 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:33,039 more of it. Yeah. 687 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: Silent Hill to Remake has surpassed five million players. This 688 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,640 is from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. Konami has revealed 689 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,079 that Silent Hill to Remake, a project developed by Bluebird Team, 690 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,240 has now hit a very impressive player milestone. Ever since 691 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,279 it debuted in October twenty twenty four, of the game 692 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,079 has managed to continue to entice players, so much so 693 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880 that now as many as five million players have been 694 00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:57,240 registered for the game. 695 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,039 Speaker 2: Not bad. I think that, you know, very very good, 696 00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:01,359 right this. 697 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean the Silent Hill series is ascending and that 698 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,039 is that's best case. 699 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,519 Speaker 2: Scenario for Konami, right mm. 700 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: Hmm, I think very very good for Konami. Good for 701 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,639 Blueber as well, right yeah. Blueber kind of like turning 702 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,239 the rep around and also Konami turning their reputation around, 703 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,880 and like the metal gear collection definitely helped with that. 704 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,840 But this especially I feel like is a good hopefully 705 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,679 a good sign for things to come out of Konami. 706 00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, at the very least you can 707 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,719 tell tell the motivation is there from a lot of 708 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,719 these companies that have been inspired by Capcom to like, hey, 709 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,559 if we make good games. I mean you were saying it, 710 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,480 make put out good game, you know you sort of 711 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,320 you're gonna succeed, and I think, you know, especially like 712 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,800 Monster Hunter Stories three, I will say, hey, Mike, look 713 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,639 at these review scores. 714 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,519 Speaker 2: I'm glad he picked that up. 715 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: Because it's like man eighty five on open credit for 716 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,760 that game. Yeah, that's like, okay, things continue to improve, 717 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,880 and it's like it was already in a space where 718 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,199 like a Monster Hunter too, I think people are like, hey, 719 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,519 this is really good and it averaged out and again 720 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:04,679 it's it's just review scores, but it helps us kind 721 00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,880 of put these things in perspective. Averaged out to about 722 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,760 an eighty one, it's like, hey, that's that's pretty good, 723 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,280 well done. If you just keep doing that forever with 724 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,000 these I bet it they're going to find their audience 725 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,599 and like, no, if we keep making it better, more 726 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,400 people will show, will show up and it's like, yeah, 727 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,320 I've seen more people excited about Monster Hunter Stories. 728 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:20,599 Speaker 2: Three. 729 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Konami's got to see that that has continued to 730 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,719 work for Capcom. They know they have the historical vintage 731 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,880 juice there as well. 732 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: Vintage juice doesn't sound good. 733 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: They can know they got that that old school juice 734 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,039 there as well, that they can sort of play on 735 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:36,280 and if as long as they keep putting out good games, 736 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,960 they should be able to accomplish similar results I would expect. 737 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and not everything is going to be a home 738 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,519 run Grub and Silence. Yeah two is totally one of 739 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,199 the more popular ones in the franchise. But I think 740 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,840 this has restored enough interest in not only Silent Hill 741 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,239 but Konami where people will be inclined to come back 742 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,119 and maybe hopefully Konami can be can experiment a little 743 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,760 bit more with their existing IP as well. We see 744 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,519 that Monster Inner Stories. They've gotten to three titles at 745 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,920 this point, grub right, despite me never checking out any 746 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,719 of them, despite them being fairly reviewed, Well, there's an 747 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,880 audience for them, so Grub I'm calling it here. Now, 748 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:23,880 Konami just make a jerr PG. But in the Silent 749 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,599 Hill universe. 750 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah they could. Yes, that would work, and I 751 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,440 think it would do very well. 752 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: And it's just a party of mentally ill absentee fathers. 753 00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, the most powerful party you can imagine. 754 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 3: I would all of them in green jackets, untucked shirts, 755 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,079 bootcut gens. 756 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: Police have tuck. Yeah. 757 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,159 Speaker 1: Yes, you're describing something that would It's like it sounds 758 00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:53,920 like like a weird bizarro world of Final Fantasy fifteen. 759 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,920 It's like just these dads on a road trip. All right, 760 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,280 let's keep going here. Overwatch direct reveals his next game, 761 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,159 and it looks like Red Dead Redemption two meets Russ. 762 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,400 This is from Ethan Gotch at Kotaku. Jeff Kaplin has 763 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,119 a new studio and a new game. It might not 764 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:12,320 be what you expect from the Blizzard veteran who led 765 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,000 design for years on World of Warcraft and directed Overwatch. 766 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,760 It's called the Legend of California and it looks like 767 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,000 Red Dead Redemption two if you turned it into a 768 00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:24,280 survival crafting sim. It's the debut GA game from Kaplan's 769 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,920 new studio. Ken Sugiyama. You think that's good enough, Jan, 770 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,480 I think that's probably good enough. Good dam my best 771 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,119 there everybody, and it's being published by Dreamhaven, the company 772 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,719 formed by ex Blizzard president Michael Moreheim. 773 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,159 Speaker 2: Revealed out of the Blue late yesterday. 774 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: It's a multiplayer action survival FPS set on the island 775 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,239 of California during the gold Rush era, according to a 776 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,840 new Steam page listing, Okay, so I normally I typically 777 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,719 don't include like new game announcements. Better at this point, Jan, 778 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,920 It's like, yeah, games get announced all the time, but 779 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,760 this is Jeff Kaplin, this is like a superstar developer, 780 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960 and Okay, but then it's a survival game, and those 781 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,199 are you know, Diamond doesn't I don't think mean necessarily 782 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:11,840 dismissing their popularity because those come out, they find huge audiences. 783 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,679 It's just like if you know, if you're into them already. 784 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,599 But again, Jeff Kaplan and I think he's going to 785 00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,079 be able to command some attention here. Do you think 786 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,280 he'll be able to parlay that into success with this game? 787 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,119 And will that success become from the traditional survival game 788 00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,480 or audience or the people who followed Jeff Kaplan's blog posts. 789 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 3: I think it could be a little bit of both. 790 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,639 Grub Right, like Jeff Kaplan definitely curries some favor, a 791 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:41,400 lot of favor if we're being honest with audiences, and 792 00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:45,320 also a survival game. It is just one of those 793 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,800 genres of grub that always has an audience despite there 794 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,119 being a million of them out there. And I think 795 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,000 something that I know on this website we've done a 796 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,280 little bit of reevaluating Red Dead Redemption two. Still not 797 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,639 for me, but I like Cowboys. This could be something 798 00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:09,920 that captures that audience. Because I also didn't realize, Greb, 799 00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:12,920 that there is a subset of gamers out there that, 800 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,599 despite Red Dead Redemption two being I know there's an 801 00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:21,199 online mode, but despite being a single player game, is 802 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,039 some people's forever. 803 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,039 Speaker 2: Game, right. 804 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you start putting mods on that thing, and 805 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 it's a whole it becomes completely different very fast. 806 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 807 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 3: So if they can capture some of the appeal and 808 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,280 like the random things that can happen in Red Dead 809 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,639 Redemption two, but also tie in a survival aspect, you're 810 00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:43,239 gonna get a lot of freaks out there. 811 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 812 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: At the very least, it's like, Okay, you know, a rust, 813 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,320 but set in this very different kind of like it's 814 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,159 not that different from a RUST, but it's different from 815 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,760 a lot of the other survival games. Yeah, and honestly 816 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,039 sounds a lot like a rust you know, old school 817 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,599 gold Rush California. But I still like that ideas, like 818 00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:03,519 it feels different spiritually from a lot of those games. 819 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,280 I was wondering, like, what happened to Jeff Kaplan just 820 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480 the other day. It's like, you know, I don't remember 821 00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:16,079 him talking about a studio. A lot of these developers 822 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,639 from that era of Blizzard did kind of spin out, 823 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,920 and a lot of them we haven't heard from a 824 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,519 lot of them, but a lot a lot of these 825 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,480 studios did put out like those real time strategy games, 826 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,519 and it doesn't feel like any of them sort of 827 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:30,039 did what the expectation was, which is like, hey, once 828 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:34,719 we make a real StarCraft successor, that audience will show up. 829 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,079 Speaker 2: And that didn't seem to be the case. 830 00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: Do you think at the very least, him trying something 831 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,880 different here is probably maybe a better strategy than trying 832 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,800 to mean he couldn't have made an Overwatch clone. 833 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:46,639 Speaker 2: Right, that would have been crazy. 834 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 3: No, that would have been incredibly misguided. And I don't 835 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,679 think Jeff Kaplan would have done that because nothing Obviously, 836 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,199 you know, he still of course holds over Watch with 837 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,320 high reverence in his own heart, so I appreciate this 838 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:03,000 divert in the next game he wants to make. I 839 00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:07,400 also like whenever a popular director of a game, Greb 840 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,480 will come back out of like pseudo retirement or not 841 00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:14,239 even full retirement and be like trying to flex everything, 842 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,559 Like check this out. I got this idea. Sometimes it 843 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:20,559 doesn't pan out well. Right in the case of the 844 00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,920 Legend of California, I hope it does. 845 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hell of a name. What do you like? 846 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: What landmarks do you want to see in this game 847 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,519 so you know you're in California, jan. 848 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:33,679 Speaker 3: I want to see I want to see trains, Greb. 849 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,199 I want to see a railroad. 850 00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to see Jonathan Blow doing Taichi outside 851 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,559 of GDC. That's that's what I want to see anything now, 852 00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:46,199 and now I know where I'm at. Valve claps back 853 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,199 against New York Attorney General lawsuit in rare public response. 854 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,079 This is from Alex Hopley at Game Reactor, in a 855 00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:55,880 case that's probably about five or even ten years too 856 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,599 late to jump on the hatred people had for loot Box. 857 00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,920 Is the Attorney General of New York decided to bring 858 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,239 a lawsuit to Steam platform owner Valve, citing its use 859 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,719 of loop boxes in Counterstrike two, Team Fortress two and 860 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,480 Dota two as unlawful and harmful to children. Last night, 861 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,559 Valve issued a response. In somewhat of a rare occurrence, 862 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,480 the Steam owner decided to create a public statement on the. 863 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 2: Matter, posted via the Steam website. 864 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,639 Speaker 1: We rarely talk about litigation, but we felt we should 865 00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:26,840 explain the situation to you, Valve started to explain in 866 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,360 its opening paragraph. We shared with the New York Attorney 867 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,840 General that these types of boxes in our games are 868 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,280 widely used, not just in video games, but in the 869 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,360 tangible world as well, where generations have grown up opening 870 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,280 baseball cards, baseball packs, and blind boxes and bags, and 871 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,920 then trading and selling the items they receive on the 872 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,320 physical side. Popular products used in this way include baseball cards, Pokemon, 873 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,480 magic La Boo Boo. In the game Space, digital packs 874 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,880 similar to our boxes date back to two thousand and 875 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,199 four and are in widespread use. Players don't have to 876 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840 open mystery boxes to play Valve games. In fact, most 877 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,320 of you don't open any boxes at all and just 878 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,840 play the games because the items in the boxes are 879 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,199 purely cosmetic. There is no disadvantage to put to a 880 00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:13,039 player not spending money. Valve goes on in this way 881 00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,280 for a little bit, But those are the big popular 882 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000 talking points that a company like them would would lay out, 883 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,199 and Jen I generally agree for the most part. Where 884 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,119 it's like, yeah, this is pretty similar to Pokemon cardbacks. 885 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,719 Here's where it's like, I agree, but I don't care. 886 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,480 I love the idea of a big company that makes 887 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:33,159 a lot of money getting some scrutiny. Let's just take 888 00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,000 a look. You say it's like you say, it's like 889 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,519 Pokemon cards. Just show us the math that we were 890 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,280 sure that you've kept track of. Show us that it's 891 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,440 just like Pokemon cards, and that you're not putting a 892 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,599 little juice on top, and that you're not putting just 893 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,159 a little bit of extra sugar where you kind of 894 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,119 manipulate the algorithm in your favor, something that may be 895 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,599 at the very least extremely difficult to do with physical cardbacks, 896 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,239 or maybe even impossible. 897 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,119 Speaker 2: So just prove it. 898 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some we're gonna have some scrutiny. Come in, 899 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,039 take a look, and you tell us what's really going on, 900 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,440 and if it satisfies us. I bet this does go away, 901 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,480 and if it doesn't, well let's talk about why not. 902 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,119 Speaker 2: Right, one hundred percent. Grub. 903 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 3: Also, you know, I'm looking at all the different things 904 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,800 that Valve listed out, Baseball cards, Pokemon cards, la boo boos, 905 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,159 and as someone that has existed in the periphery of 906 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:23,159 all of those things, those aren't good comparisons for me 907 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,559 because like, as, yeah, that's how they are. That doesn't 908 00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,480 mean manipulate it good. How they are, It's been bad. 909 00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:34,480 And just because people will like rip open packs as 910 00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,039 a hobby doesn't mean it's a good hobby because it 911 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:43,480 is still incredibly predatory to do like it. Near me, 912 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,719 there was a stabbing over Pokemon cards, so that's not 913 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,519 something that's not a fun comparison I want to have either. 914 00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,599 But I'm with you, Grub of like, okay, well, if 915 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,440 you were pointing these fingers across everyone else, then just 916 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,320 show me, show me the dirt then, Valve. 917 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want some friction out there, right. 918 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,559 Speaker 1: There was this idea of we should let grown adults 919 00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:13,519 who who have matured and can make their own decisions 920 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,280 decide what they want to do with their money. If 921 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,400 they want to gamble on sports. We should let them. 922 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,400 And it's like, you know what, it's hard to argue against, 923 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,559 you know, your body or choice. Like literally people would 924 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,360 say that sort of thing. I'd say, Okay, well that's 925 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,920 going a bit far, buddy, But I get what you're 926 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,000 trying to get at. We shouldn't be going into people 927 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,679 and like treating them like their nannies, okay, And then 928 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,199 as soon as you give them an inch, they take 929 00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,599 forty fucking miles. And now the world's been controlled by 930 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,159 gambling sites in one way or the other in every 931 00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:42,280 industry you can possibly imagined imagine, and it's it's obviously 932 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,559 clearly like transparently awful like it is. It is a 933 00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:50,159 talk about machines to extract value out of people. That 934 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,719 is the nuclear weapon designed to extract money out of people, 935 00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:56,559 and it does so in a way that is pernicious 936 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,039 and obviously wrong, and something should be done about it. 937 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,119 Because we took all the friction out of the way, 938 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,239 we can't even like send regulators after them. 939 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 2: And it's like, man, this should definitely be regulated. 940 00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,159 Speaker 1: And if it's still like a corner of it's still 941 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:12,280 made legal, and we just tax the hell out of it. 942 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,760 Tax every bet, like that's the way they should do it, 943 00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:17,559 Like every bet you make should be taxed, and it's 944 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,159 like just a little bit of money on top, and 945 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,920 it's like, I bet that would discourage a lot of 946 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,559 people over time and at the very least use that 947 00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,360 money to improve schools or whatever. But we don't have 948 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,960 any of that regulation because we gave them an inch, 949 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,239 and that gave them the biggest loophole they needed. And 950 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,800 now they're on the other side and they control everything. 951 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 2: So let's go. 952 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: Ahead and keep where we can throw up barriers on 953 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,159 anything that is even somewhat similar to this idea. 954 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 2: Let's do it right, one hundred percent grub. 955 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with companies being more transparent. 956 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,840 If they're making such a big stink about even being 957 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,320 looked at or scrutinized, then put your money where your 958 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,679 mouth is and show us how much fucking money you 959 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,440 are making from these show us from the people. 960 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: You're not a publicly traded company, but you are still 961 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,440 like you have to answer to the public when we 962 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,960 ask you to just show us. 963 00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it, and if you can satisfy. 964 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: Us, I bet people will actually be satisfied because there's 965 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,119 a lot of faith in Valve and people want to 966 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:18,800 feel good about that company. And I think that company, 967 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,239 for the most part, privately owned, wants to maintain that 968 00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:25,039 that it's important to them, Well, then earn it, and 969 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:26,639 we're asking you to do that this way, and I 970 00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:30,639 think that's a completely fair and reasonable ask. All right, 971 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,599 last story here, E Shop reveals Super meat Boy three 972 00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,840 D is coming to Nintendo switch To at the end 973 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239 of the month. The long awaited Super meat Boy three 974 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,079 D was announced a few weeks back for the Nintendo 975 00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,800 switch To, and today the Nintendo e Shop page has 976 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,800 gone live. The shop listing states that the game will 977 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,400 arrive on Nintendo's latest system on the thirty first of 978 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,679 March for twenty five dollars and will be roughly three 979 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,239 point one gigabytes in size. 980 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It's yeah. People are like, I want 981 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,599 to be excited about this, but that Met Boy Forever 982 00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:03,480 game was somewhat disappointing. I think that was the Auto 983 00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:05,239 Runner or something like that. 984 00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, okay, I hope that this is where 985 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:11,199 the energies were going though, because I would love for 986 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,079 meat Boy to be back, you know, Eugenics. I didn't 987 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,800 love the esthetic, and this, of course is very similar. 988 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,880 But I always did have a soft spot for meat 989 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,159 Boys gameplay, and if you could translate that even a 990 00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,599 little bit to three D. I want to see what 991 00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,480 that game looks like and what it plays like. And 992 00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,679 it looks kind of promising, so cool to see it 993 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,239 kind of came out of nowhere for me. Oh that's 994 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,320 already coming out, and of course it's been for forever, 995 00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:37,119 but you know, I just wasn't thinking that it was 996 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,039 around the corner, and here it is. Grub. 997 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: What I will say, though, and I'm not going to 998 00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:44,960 reveal the people I've talked to, I will say, out 999 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,960 of folks that have played several platformers coming out of 1000 00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:52,280 GDC this week so far, Grub, it seems like the 1001 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,719 heat on the street may not be around Super meat 1002 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,320 Boy three D, but it's around Bubbzy Look. 1003 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,679 Speaker 1: Look all right, Yeah, I think I think Bubbsy four 1004 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,000 D is going to be awesome, especially because that's that's 1005 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,840 for braz They just did It's Demon Tides. 1006 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 2: I think it's the new one. Yeah, that in that 1007 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,199 game is very good. 1008 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,559 Speaker 1: I started playing it myself finally, and I did play 1009 00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,960 a little bit of Bobsy four dy that demo that preview, Yeah, 1010 00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:25,360 I was impressed. So let's see, at the very least, 1011 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,199 I'll have a new Bubbsy game. And everybody knows that's 1012 00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:30,960 for me, the Bubbsy guy, Jeff Grub, everybody. 1013 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: To you, the loves guy. 1014 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 3: Speaking about Nintendo, I did check out a couple of 1015 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,679 games grub from GDC this week, specifically the one I 1016 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,199 do want to talk about real real quick, Mina the Hollower. 1017 00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,559 Speaker 2: Holy shit, really, oh man, that's so awesome, I hope. 1018 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,679 So you know a thing to consider. 1019 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,079 Speaker 3: These are all very shorter demos because they have to 1020 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,960 turn through so many people in a very tight time window. 1021 00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:57,320 But with the brief time I had with a Grub, 1022 00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:02,079 Mina has got the juice. I dig it a bunch right. 1023 00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:07,840 It really delivers on the promise of what if Legend 1024 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,719 of Zelda but cool mouse with quip and she can dig. 1025 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,639 Speaker 1: Yep dig and kind of jump out of the ground 1026 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,519 and it all just felt so good when I played 1027 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,480 it forever ago. But it was one of those ones 1028 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,559 where it's like they're they're aiming at me, you know, 1029 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,480 links Awakening, This game looks a lot like that. 1030 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite games. 1031 00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna it's gonna be hard for me to judge, Like, 1032 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,159 is this just getting me the nostalgia of the aesthetics 1033 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:33,360 and the really snappy gameplay. So Jan, you're going in 1034 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,519 there and enjoying it's like, Okay, there might be something 1035 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,159 more to it than just me liking this kind of stuff. 1036 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 3: And it feels like there's you know, there's a couple 1037 00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:47,199 other miscllaneous, different little bits and bobs that will appeal 1038 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,039 to different sorts of play types as well. So, right, 1039 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,880 if it initially may not be for you, it does 1040 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480 seem like there will be different things to pick up 1041 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,119 throughout the game to find too to how you want 1042 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,679 to play that style of game. 1043 00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's get over to the poll question, which 1044 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,760 I believe Mike did. Right, let me go ahead and 1045 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,159 open this over here. 1046 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,559 Speaker 2: I will refresh. 1047 00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:14,639 Speaker 1: I was listening while I was doing some other stuff, 1048 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,039 and yeah, there we go. Have you bought a video 1049 00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:18,239 game themed lego set? 1050 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,679 Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? I'm gonna say that I have because I. 1051 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,079 Speaker 1: Have, so did thirty four percent? Sixty six percent said 1052 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,719 no they haven't. One third of our audience showing up 1053 00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:32,079 for those Jan that's that's quite a few people, right. 1054 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, if you get. 1055 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: One third of the kinds of people who listen to 1056 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,880 podcasts like this buying that thing, Yeah, that's that's quite 1057 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,239 a bit of money. Kind of makes sense why they 1058 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,320 keep why they keep returning to it. There's a likely 1059 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,239 very large overlap in the Vinn diagram of people who 1060 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,239 build Lego and people who would enjoy these old video 1061 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,280 game consoles. 1062 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 3: Right, one hundred percent. Also, I am curious if people, 1063 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,400 if they didn't buy the video game Lego sets, if anything, 1064 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,400 the other video game ip they they thought to vote 1065 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,679 yes and this, Like there was that Horizon kit, the 1066 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,440 Dikou tree from Legend of Zelda. A bunch of Lego 1067 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,000 freaks out there. I here's a thing, grub. I don't 1068 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:15,519 know what people's interest is in watching someone build Lego. 1069 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,039 I did it a couple times during the pandemic, but 1070 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,039 a lot of people were very into Abby and Jurff 1071 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:24,920 building a keyboard yesterday. So sometimes I wonder. 1072 00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 2: To Jeff, are finally relenting and doing that stream with her? Yeah? Finally. 1073 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 3: But I'm curious if you know people out there are 1074 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,079 interested in watching like a Lego building stream here here 1075 00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:42,280 on GB because it could be fun times. Also the 1076 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,239 unfortunate part gang everyone out there. If your significant other, 1077 00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:51,440 your parents, your siblings, your friends, if they know that 1078 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,599 you're very into games, you're going to get these as 1079 00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:57,639 Christmas gifts for the foreseeable future. This is just what 1080 00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,000 they're going These are the targeted ads, y'all. 1081 00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 2: Yep, and hey, they they're right, that's a that's a 1082 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,679 pretty good gift for anyone who's kind of in this space. 1083 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have a winner there, even among like 1084 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,199 the sixty six percent of we're like, no, I've never 1085 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,239 had that. If you get like one of the easier ones, 1086 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,800 get the game Boy, that's a fun afternoon right there. 1087 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: H gundam stream Yeah. 1088 00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean people do that and I'm into that every 1089 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,079 once in a while, even though I've never built gumpla. 1090 00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,599 Is that what people say? Yeah, yeah, I've never done that. 1091 00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:28,280 I would like to, but at the very least watching 1092 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,559 that is a lot of fun. Okay, let's see here 1093 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:34,000 we have a new poll question, which let's get to now, 1094 00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:36,280 are you getting a switch to for Pacopia? 1095 00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,639 Speaker 2: Yes? No, I already had a switch to. Those are 1096 00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:40,360 your options. 1097 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,639 Speaker 1: We'll get the results of that tomorrow here on Games 1098 00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:47,679 Mornings on Giant Bomb Speak at a Giant Bomb Jam. 1099 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,199 Speaker 2: What's happening? I just got back. I don't know what 1100 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,000 you guys do it anymore. 1101 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 3: I've voice smailed dump truck popping off later today. A 1102 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,559 third episode of Marry Me Tomadacci going live later today tomorrow, 1103 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,760 another episode of Games More, we'll have upf I think 1104 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,760 we're still fine tuning the bells and whistles as to 1105 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,519 what to do tomorrow for that. But gang, we've had 1106 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,119 another hot week of content for y'all. But speaking about 1107 00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,440 content grub, you know what else they can do is 1108 00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,960 if you at home are interested in going to Packs 1109 00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:19,320 East twenty twenty six, we will be there. We're gonna 1110 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,199 have three panels. Details are still a little bit up 1111 00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:24,400 in the air. We're fine tuning and locking down the schedule, 1112 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:27,800 but you can expect at least three panels. Vinnie Caravella 1113 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,159 will be joining us for one of them. But if 1114 00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:34,119 you still have not bought a Pax East pass and 1115 00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,400 you are a Giant Bomb dot Com Slant Premium member, 1116 00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:39,719 if you head to the Behind the Scenes channel, you'll 1117 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,239 get a discount code for fifteen percent off your ticket. 1118 00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:46,559 You can also enter a raffle though grub for two 1119 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:48,039 free tickets two packs east. 1120 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,159 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. I didn't know about all that. That's really cool. 1121 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everyone get on that please. Hey, and I 1122 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,000 saw some people say, hey, there's no Bomb twelve link updated. 1123 00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 2: I'll do that right now. I'm looking at the new link. 1124 00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:00,880 I'll put it up on. 1125 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: The site and I'll skeet about it so everyone can 1126 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,840 just get it there. We can get it updated because 1127 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,079 tomorrow we're gonna we're gonna have a new Bomb twelve, 1128 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,679 so we're gonna get some We're gonna need some new games, 1129 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,679 new answers. 1130 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,079 Speaker 2: There that that'll be there to wrap up the end 1131 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:14,480 of the week. 1132 00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: You know, my kids don't have school tomorrow, so it 1133 00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:18,960 felt like Friday today, even though I haven't worked this 1134 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,559 week other than being at GDC non stop, like oh no, no, 1135 00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:24,679 we have worked the tomorrow as well. But I'm excited 1136 00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:28,760 because I'm looking forward to Tomodachi later today, looking forward 1137 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,800 to kind of wrapping up the week with some fun stuff. 1138 00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,400 It's gonna be good, alright, jan anything else that we 1139 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,519 have to do, I think I just got to say 1140 00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:37,000 thank you for hanging out with me and talking about 1141 00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:37,599 video games. 1142 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,679 Speaker 2: Man, I really appreciate it. It's the only way to start 1143 00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:40,119 a Thursday. 1144 00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 3: Greb. 1145 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,119 Speaker 1: Thank you all for watching and listening. You are the 1146 00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:45,559 best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, 1147 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:51,320 take care of yourself and goodbye.