Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
your host from giant bomb dot com.
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Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to be talking about Ditto
carrying Nintendo on his back, and we may be getting
multiple new PlayStations soon. Okay, one of them's a toy.
It's gonna be a good one because we have Janet
Chowa on the show.
Speaker 2: Jan how are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm gonna say that I have the
unique claim to fame that I have not only been
on this program twice this week, but both iterations of
your regular decular Game Mess Mornings and the special bonus
edition of Game Mikey Mornings.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you holding down the fort. Thank you to
Mikey for a running the show while I was gone.
I want to come out and get on the record,
jan I got to talk about something, all right, I listen.
I might have said that I do not like Launch. Look,
that does not mean I don't think it shouldn't be
called Launch. Look, no, Mikey likes it. It's he's the
one doing the work. He's an owner of the website,
and it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't go
on YouTube.
Speaker 2: All right, that's all.
Speaker 3: That's well, then it matters that it matters.
Speaker 1: That's well, yeah, exactly, well that's what he said, he
and he already he already agreed to that. So my
point is, like, why are we getting all hung up
on it. I'm I'm backing my boy Mikey on it.
We can put it on the as. That is the
name on the website.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Launch. Look everybody, it's here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it. But yeah, look, Jan I missed
you guys. I'm glad that I could be back doing stuff.
You guys seem to be holding things down. Dan got
to not punch alligators? What happened there?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: I think everyone was telling Dan that in the RI
seven DLC the end of Zoe, that a major component
is punching alligators. It turns out you can't do that
at all.
Speaker 1: How you try to punch the alligators, you very specifically
will fail.
Speaker 3: Yes, So now I'm starting to question Ben Hanson's sense
of reality. Yeah, but we did get a power up
at the near the very tail end of the DLC
that would turn the game into God Hand. So you know,
I'm curious to see what Capcom has planned for R
nine dlc IF and when we get there, always.
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is when they're like, let's just make it God hand,
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Speaker 2: Hello Lotube, all right, everybody, let's do this. We got
the news.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Pokemon Pacopia surpassing two point two million
units sold in.
Speaker 2: The first four days. That's quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Sophie McAvoy over at a jetab Is basically wraps that
up and says that shortly after launch, Nintendo's share price
has also jumped by ten point five percent. It's actually
up even more than that now. Yeah, it seems like
this might be doing work. As the kids say, this
Pucopia is catching on, Like, I think like something happened
in the week's leading up to it from the previous
where I'm like, I think this might be big. Even
when I was saying that, I didn't think it was
going to be this big jam And this feels like
it could easily turn into the next Animal Crossing, selling
twenty twenty five million copies over the next little while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of my friends are are not super
into games, and you know, more of your casual gamer
have been asking me, yo, is it worth it to
get a whole switch to and this game? Right, I've
only ever really played Animal Crossing stuff like Overcooked and
other similar games, and I'll and I'll generally I'll tell
them like, hey, if you can swing it, I would
swing yes.
Speaker 1: If you're looking to have the same sort of experience
and feelings that you get from Animal Crossing, yeah, this
is delivering on those in a way that it's not
just the game, right, it is everyone else playing it
and sharing stuff and having a huge group of people
to go share the stuff with, whether it's like in
your DMS, in your discord, or just on social media.
Like that's you can't.
Speaker 2: Buy that, Actually it's really hard to get.
Speaker 1: So pairing that up with what is a really solid
one of these kinds of social simulators, they really got
something right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, the other thing I make
sure to let everyone else know is that like, hey,
you're not as limited by the clock as you are
in Animal Crossing, like you don't reach the end of
a day and really can't do anything.
Speaker 2: But if you like that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's also still in there, Like you can build a
building where it's like, oh, this is going to be
ready tomorrow. Cool because that has happened. That's something to
look forward to. But it's not like, okay, and now
it can't do anything else. It's really smart about that. Yeah,
it's not just one carrot on a stick. It's several
carrots on a stick to keep going, and you can
keep being busy. And if you get tired of one biome,
if you've progressed far enough in the game, you can
head over to another one, perhaps another one, and then
just start doing what your your heart wants to do
in the game. Perhaps you want to terraform the island.
Perhaps this time you want to like actually make homes
for people, and and it's it's great. There's always something
to do in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost intimidating.
Speaker 1: How once I realized how much stuff there was to do,
I'm like, do I want to like stay on this
treadmill so I'm confident enough to use all these systems
And I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna pick
and choose what I want to engage with and uh,
and then even as I'm doing that, some of the
stuff that was formerly like intimidating it's like, oh no,
I am kind of curious. I should start working on
that as well. And the game onboards. You onto that
stuff eventually, and it's it's just really well done. I
did was like bummed out. I was like, as soon
as I was about to leave, I'm like, we should
have done a video where it's like, what would I
leave out? Like not cigarettes anymore? Jane, You're getting you're
getting healthy. But I was gonna make my little Pacopia
attraction thing for Jana Choa. I was gonna put out
Hennessy and stuff like that, and Alyssa Liu poster, just
just things like I'm like, oh look look everyone, look
the grass is shaking. And then jam pops out. So
of course I have that idea as soon as I'm leaving,
and I was like trying to think what mine would be,
and it's like just a bunch of dad games.
Speaker 3: I think, oh, okay, that's actually a good idea. We
should we Okay, someone write this down. We should all
list what our habitat would be.
Speaker 1: All right, hang, I'm gonna remind me tomorrow before you know,
on before the BombCast on Tuesday morning, to do this
thing with our Pokemon habitats all right, cool, that'll remind me. Hey,
I was kind of glad that we got to hang
up for a little bit. But it's like, next time
when I'm an SF, I'm gonna make it a Jana
Choa trip. I want to just like go there and
have you show me all the real stuff. Too busy
at GDC this year, Yes, GDC, Grub. I have always
been around the periphery of it, never actually gone to it,
and I as for like ten years for me, geez,
and from my understanding, grub. Also, the Moscone Center must
have changed significantly since the last time you went. Yeah,
but I don't know if a lot of people are
just more excited or just general attendees.
Speaker 3: GDC proper in terms of the exhibition floor hadn't even
opened until yesterday, but when you gave your talk on Monday,
it was still super packed.
Speaker 2: It was nice to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we could like talk about it a
little bit because it's like, yeah, I really did.
Speaker 2: It took up all my time. I went to a
bunch of panels, and like, one thing I.
Speaker 1: Noticed is like, oh, yeah, there's still people who are
super passionate about this. And even though a lot of
the talks are still kind of focused on, Hey, how
can we build these machines so they can extract more
value or so that you can find the money. Of course,
it's a business, so that's what it's going to be
the focus. But it's like, no, there's just a lot
of people here who want to make cool video games.
Speaker 2: And it was packed. You're right.
Speaker 1: It was cool to see despite the fact that not
a lot of people from overseas, but still a few
people from overseas, and for as danger said as it
must be to travel here, I'm very thankful that they
showed up because the show was better for them, as
of course it was. It always is, so yeah, it
was great to see those people. All right, let's keep
going here. Xbox unveils first tech details of its next
generation console, co named Project Helix. This is from Vicky
Blake at gi dot Biz. Xbox has revealed limited technical
details about its next console co named Project Helix. Addressing
attendees at gdc VP. Next of Next Generation Jason Ronald
confirmed Helix will deliver high performance and provide the ultimate
player first experience. Blah blah blah. What are the specifics here?
They have a couple of things. They are working on
a system on a chip, an SOOC with AMD, just
like their previous consoles or their most recent consoles. They
are also really focused on neural rendering. I can ever
say neural it's kind of like basically just upscaling and
all these techniques of machine learning to make sure that
they can run games on modest settings and get really
good visuals. And they have a whole stack of stuff
they're talking about making that the focus of for this console,
because they also want to have super duper improved ray tracing.
So that's one of the buzzwords we're still getting here.
And then beyond that, they're saying, hey, everything that is
an Xbox game should run on this device, and you
should expect alpha hardware to go out in twenty twenty seven,
so like that's early developer alpha hardware so they could
start making games for this device. It still sounds like, Okay,
they're very dedicated to this thing. I get the sense
they're trying to treat it like an old Xbox would
have been treated at this point in its lifetime, of
like let's go to developers and try to get them
excited to support this platform.
Speaker 2: Part of me though, is like, oh they are.
Speaker 1: It still sounds like they're trying to set this up
as the equivalent of like one of their surface tablets,
where it's, hey, let's make a reference version of what
PC and Xbox hardware can be, and we'll stand back
sell maybe ten to fifteen million of those, and then
our third party partners can maybe do something similar. And
does that strategy sound like something that is exciting for
you as someone who might want to get hardware and
something that could get you know, support from developers.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Grub.
Speaker 3: I can't say that I have any excitement for whatever
Project Helix is supposed to be or the PlayStation six,
mostly because greb like, I'm just thinking about how insanely
expensive both of these consoles are going to be. We've
already seen the Steam Machine, which is something I was
vaguely curious about checking out in terms of thinking about
acquiring for the home get soft delayed into vaguely twenty
twenty six. I just don't know what these consoles would
be able to do that I can't do already, or
what they could provide to me outside of like exclusive games.
But also Grub like it takes a while for developers
to get accustomed to a new tool set for a console.
So even then at launch, whenever this would theoretically be,
they're not. Everything is going to have the juice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's the kind of thing where it's like, okay,
they are they talking about having Like when a person
makes a game for this device, are they making a
PC game or an Xbox game?
Speaker 2: Like? What does that look like?
Speaker 1: It probably is a PC game because this thing is
a PC underneath, and Xbox games will happen to work
on it. It's kind of how I would think about it.
So then the question is stuff like Xbox Live Gold,
which is it's not called gold gold anymore, but you
do need a subscription to play games online if they're
a premium price game like a Call of Duty on
your Xbox.
Speaker 2: Is that that's going away, right because this is a PC.
Speaker 1: So it's it's just this thing where Okay, there's a
lot of questions here. And while they might be, you know,
presenting it as something that was as big of a
deal to them as an Xbox One X or an
Xbox Series X and S, I don't think that is
actually the long term goal. And when I have more
questions than answers right now, which is you know, normal
for this point of the announcement cycle for sure, But
this time around, when I have more questions than answers,
that's not exciting to me.
Speaker 2: That's I continue to be worried.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's if anything, that's more concerning Grub if we
also continue to be to have more questions pop up
and I just don't know who needs this right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, you know, especially when we start
talking about price and all this stuff, people are going
to keep asking that question.
Speaker 2: It's it's going to be difficult to answer that.
Speaker 3: Like, like grub, I have friends that will are all
about getting the newest iPhone of that year, Like they'll
upgrade every single year. They don't care what the new
specs are. They just want what is new. Yeah, that
attitude is kind of changed within like the last two
like last year to the last two years, mostly because
of like everything else in the proximity of electronics is
just getting progressively more expensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, at the very least, it does seem
like they are trying to take a step in a direction.
It is not like Xbox is getting shoved completely to
the side.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 1: You know, they had something to say about, you know,
the last group of leaders and their strategy of everything
is in Xbox and they came in and like, hey,
that we completely disagree with that and we're going to
go in a different direction. It's like, okay, well what
does that look like? And it's like, oh, they don't
know right away. This is this new leadership is like
very very new, like they just went in a few
weeks ago. So it's like, I'm not surprised again that
they don't have a bunch of answers. So as they
start talking about it in this way and it's like, okay,
they at least seem like they are trying to form answers.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how much patience I have for
that brand anymore, because it's you know, I care about
playing games, and I'm gonna be able to play any
game they make on any a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of other devices. So this is for me personally.
Speaker 1: Something where I'm like, huh, I'm not sure if I
need to be pan attention quite yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For the position that Xbox has put themselves in, Grub,
I don't think of them in my head at least anymore.
As like a console platform. I just think of them
as a gigantic publisher now where despite you know, gamers
cornering Asha Sharma into saying that console exclusives are coming back,
I don't believe that's actually the case because Xbox would
be so much based off of everything they've already acquired.
If they're going to limit the release of all of
their games to whatever the next console is, it just
wouldn't work.
Speaker 2: Yep. I agree. There is more out of this though.
Speaker 1: Windows elevens Steam deckish streamlined Xbox Gaming UI comes to
all PCs in April. This is from Andrew Cunningham at
Ours Technica. When a sus and Microsoft launched the rog
Xbox ally X last summer, it came with a bespoke
controller driven full screen interface running on top of Windows eleven.
Handheld was still running Windows under the hood, and you
could still bring up the typical Windows desktop at any time,
but it defaulted to the full screen Gaming UI, then
called either the Xbox Experience or Handheld or Xbox FSE,
depending on who you asked. And when Microsoft said it
would be available on all Windows PCs at some point
in twenty twenty six, it meant it meant April, So okay,
this is one of another one of those things where
it's like, is this just a one off they put
out the rock Xbox ally, is this going to improve?
And it sounds like no, this is part of taking
steps towards building whatever this new Xbox is, and this
fse Xbox experience is going to end up on all
of these devices here in a little bit. Okay, Yeah,
this is another one where I'm like, I definitely want
this to be improved on any sort of Windows device
because I do want to use Windows handheld Jana, Like
what just came out Mare from Bungie Marathon, pretty famous
for saying that they weren't going to make their anti
chet for Destiny work on the Steam Deck because it's
Linux and they didn't want to worry about all the
headaches that that would entail, so they're like, look, just
go play on a Windows device.
Speaker 2: Marathon is here.
Speaker 1: It makes it pretty clear it's not going to work
on a Steam deck and it probably wouldn't work visually,
but just you know, if there was an improved Steam Deck,
they wouldn't have the support for that. I want a
reason to keep going. Hey, these developers don't want to
have to do the extra work. I want to pick
up my Windows device just sort of boot up one
of these games. Every time I do that, though, if
I haven't used it in a month, it makes me
tear my hair out because I have to update five
different things and I always forget where they are because
it's in dumb little apps to the side and in
its and it's in the Windows settings, and it's in
the AMD launcher or whatever.
Speaker 2: So fix that, make it better.
Speaker 1: And I hope that they are motivated enough at least
by the Xbox to get that done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is my hope is that if they are. Well,
that's also my confusion, Grub is that, yeah, they have
definitely pulled away from the ethos that everything is an Xbox,
yet they still want to create this streamlined experience when
for Windows when it comes to playing games. Yet this
isn't an Xbox, this is Windows.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Can I play games on this sometimes? And again, like
you said, depending if you can manage to trigger the
right sequence of events at the right timing to make
sure a game runs. For the folks that want this
out there, I really hope that Microsoft is able to
get this to work otherwise I will continue dreaming and
thinking about Linux.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, an improved version of Windows that
has this real gaming mode that is separate and has
better performance. That would be really nice because it would
make things a lot less of headache on a desktop
where I'm probably gonna keep Windows for the most part,
although I also.
Speaker 2: Keep sideye in Linux.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're not quite done with Xbox talk, but
let's bring in the PlayStation as well. Both PlayStation six
and Xbox Helix are apparently launching Holiday twenty twenty seven,
according to at least one rumor. This is from Jonas
Mackie at Game Reactor. It's starting to feel like we
have a pretty good picture of Xbox Helix, what kind
of console it is and what kind of performance we
can expect. Development kits will start shipping out next year,
which means game development isn't likely or is likely in
full swing. But what about the PlayStation six. We've heard
rumors about that too, but not nearly to the same
extent as with Helix. There's no doubt that no doubt
that it's on its way, though, Does this mean that
Microsoft will get a big head start on Sony just
like it did with the Xbox through sixty No, not,
if we believe one of the Internet's most prominent hardware
insiders we are talking about Kepler two, who writes on
neogaff that Xbox and PS six are still on track
for Holiday twenty twenty seven. He clarifies that the same
applies to the rumored portable PlayStation device. Jan that's that's
really soon. You know, twenty twenty six is already flying by.
You know, we're well into March now, it's we're gonna
be at the end of this year in no time.
Does that mean we should be expecting kind of NonStop
new hardware rumors if it's launching within the next nine
to twenty four months or yeah, yeah, in that timeframe
or eighteen to twenty four months or whatever it is. Yeah,
that's that seems pretty soon, especially for the PlayStation six.
Speaker 3: I'd like to pose a question to the audience here,
grub is or have you folks at home that maybe
only play games on modern consoles? So the PS five
PS five proh the current Xbox, do you y'all think
you have gotten like full use of it? Have you
like use that thing and gotten the max experience and
max enjoyment out of it. However, many years into this
generation we are, and I think I'm seeing a lot
of no's, some more spirited nose as well, so grub
like I can't And for you and I and other
people in games media, I think I feel the same
where I still haven't got full use out of a
PS five yet, I still haven't felt the need to
even upgrade to a PS five Pro.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Same, And it's like I am the sucker that is
the person that they aim these things at, where it's like,
let's get I'm excited to spend money early in the
generation or on an upgraded PS five Pro, And the
narrative that they've been able to weave around these devices
or at least the PS five Pro and probably what
will happen with the PS six is just not that compelling,
especially at the price that we're talking about, and especially
after You're right, I think it's a two step story
of is that worth it? And do I feel like
I got my money's worth out of the last thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And when both of those are iffy, it's going to
be a tough hill to clue. And twenty twenty seven
just feels like too soon to start like getting past
that narrative again or lack thereof.
Speaker 2: You know, this is this is one rumor.
Speaker 1: I bet there was at least one time where these
systems definitely both were aiming for.
Speaker 2: At some point, some point in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know with ram prices, Now, that's got to
be the straw that breaks the camel's back, because it's
a straw that weighs seven million fucking pounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, greb. And also, like I I don't think PlayStation
would lose out on much if Xbox, you know, hypothetically
released their next generation console sooner than they were ready for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if anything.
Speaker 3: I think that gives PlayStation more leeway to kind of
handle the situation depending on how Xbox's new console would launch,
right of, like, hey, maybe don't need that. We still
got all this shit over here. You could still play
Fortnite over here. That's fine, you know.
Speaker 1: And they're getting some of the machine learning improvements to
visuals and stuff like that, Like you know, Xbox is
promising better textures because they're going to be able to
shrink the textures and use machine learning to improve those
as well. A lot of that stuff is showing up
in PS five PRO right now. So it's like they
kind of are bolstered against a lot of the improvements
that will be promised by next generation because the episser
improvements are still yet to come to PS five Pro,
and that should make an actual noticeable difference. You know,
we're talking relatively here again, Is it enough of a
difference to get you to spend the seven hundred and
fifty dollars or whatever it is to upgrade from PS
five I think most.
Speaker 2: People are probably still no.
Speaker 1: But like then you start comparing it to one thousand
dollars new Xbox hardware that is also PC, and then
it's like, Okay, the PS five pros looking pretty good
for that, especially if I want more performance out of
like a Grand Theft Auto six.
Speaker 3: The other aspect, Grub is that this has to come
into play that they are concerned abouttential price, right, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were gonna be like top tier concern.
Speaker 3: Like if we're even looking at this year alone, and
the concerns about everything happening now, God knows what's gonna
happen in twenty twenty seven, especially when we get to
the holiday season of twenty twenty seven. Like, there are
people losing their minds about gas prices now, food prices.
How are we even supposed to entertain the idea of
any form of entertainment moving forward into next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I couldn't sleep last night.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, on West Coast Time, and it
was I think I'm also coming down with something from GDC.
I got a little bit of a cold and fighting off.
I feel fine everybody, but just I'm fighting it off.
And it was keep me awake, and it was definitely
cost me to have like, oh weird little nightmares. But
I was like part of it was like I started
waking up and I was like, what was that nightmare?
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh no, I think I'm just remembering
the news.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just remembering like like paying attention for
a few minutes too long and realizing, oh, I live
in Children of Men my literal nightmare.
Speaker 2: Look around. It's just like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's bad out there if people are
having to deal with that. As much as we value
video games as escapism and we do like it's really
nice to have Pacopia right now, it's it's very eerily
similar in some ways to having animal crossing when the
pandemic was happening, and in a lot of ways, like
a lot more sad because it's like, God, the things
that we have to ignore now are actually even worse.
But it's like, if people are trying to just get
by day to day and then you show up, we're like, hey,
your escapism now is extremely more expensive than what you
paid for last time, and last time, you don't feel
like you've got a good deal. People are going to
start feeling burned. They are going to look for alternatives.
And I do think that's where you know, a Steam
machine is going to look a lot less impressive visually,
performance wise compared to these these bespoke consoles going forward,
but it still might be this alternative of like get
me out of these crazy you know, you know looney
bins where I have to spend all this money on
you know, eighty dollars games, ninety dollars games. What are
these Steam sales are looking really impressive at the very least,
people might just start looking for alternatives. So I think
Sony even like even has to be pretty careful and
obviously Microsoft has has to figure a lot out, and
that's if they are launching in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's going to.
Speaker 3: Be rough, right, It's going to be incredibly rough, grub
And I think you like hit the nail on the
head with Pacopeia, where this is not a great game
that is like graphically impressive, right right. It leans on
its style very heavily, and it's it's not pushing the
boundaries of anything on the switch to really, but there's
just enough charm and enough of a game there to
keep you playing. And obviously you know the story from
earlier today, selling two point two million units within the
first four days, and that number is just going to
keep climbing, Yeah, as the game starts picking up more
and more esteam.
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 3: Just don't understand why PlayStation at Xbox don't see make
good game game sal We're good YEP.
Speaker 1: One of the aspect of this we didn't talk about.
We'll just do it briefly. This handheld also with launching
twenty twenty seven, according to this rumor, and that's the
PlayStation handheld. That is one of their ways that they
can really shake things up and sort of approach a
generation from a different way than they've done so before
you know, they've been extremely consistent, put out a much
more powerful PlayStation than last time, and the PlayStation three
it was like weird with some very bespoke hardware. They
learn their lesson from that, and since then it's like
off the shelf stuff, work with partners that are very
well known and deliver that, and it's like that has
always worked for them, them sort of anticipating that that
might not work as well for them, it's going to
be difficult. They've never had to sort of try to
pivot before. I think the handheld would give them a
lot of opportunity to sort of say, we'll experiment on
that side of things.
Speaker 2: And I bet there's people in.
Speaker 1: That audience, people who would pick up handholds that would
be a lot more willing to say, Hey, what does
a PlayStation on this device look look like? Because I know,
if I really want the old experience, I'll just go
get a real PlayStation that has a disk drive, maybe
even still, which would be like I think a big
win persony if they showed up with that still with
the PS.
Speaker 3: Six, Yeah, the like part of it, Grub is like
with this new generation of consoles also possibly looming over
the horizon, I desperately wish that they just if I
just want them to look cool, if anything, because like, yeah,
I like the design of the PS four, slim, like
the little baby one we eventually got, but in however
many years removed. Now I think the PS five is
so fucking ugly. The thirtieth anniversary edition of the PlayStation
consoles that they launched like last year, two years ago,
I think are absolutely gorgeous and improve the look of it.
But the look of the PS five as a whole
absolute garbo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm definitely I like how ugly it is,
but I think I still agree with you that. All right,
let's go back to something traditional and Sony cool or
nineties weird.
Speaker 2: That this is not nineties weird the PS five. It's
excuse me, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like the liquid metal look of like some of
the Sony MP three players or something like that.
Speaker 2: That stuff I would I would like to have back.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll go that way, So give us
the traditional Sony like, oh, that's just a sleek piece
of kit. All right, Let's let's take that break. We
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back at it. Let's get into these headlines once. Another
new PlayStation Jan, this one a Lego PlayStation, is reportedly
apparently coming this year. This is from Chris Copindio at
GameSpot who I trust. Lego enthusiasts can soon build and
own the original PlayStation in brick form, according to a
prolific leaker purporting that a Lego set based on Sony's
first console is releasing at the end of twenty twenty six.
An Instagram user with the name Lego Minecraft Goat, who
has a history of leaking Lego sets, claimed in a
post that a one eleven piece PlayStation set, including at
least the controller and the console, will be out this
December and cost one hundred and sixty dollars. I believe
this because I want it to be true, Jan, because
I'm a big fan of the look of that original PlayStation,
especially these days, and you know these consoles have been
pretty fun to build. I think that this would encourage
more of these give us a dreamcast, right, keep doing
this work with all of these companies, and I hope
that sort of puts us on the path that to
the point where we do get those What do you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Grub, this is like the type of let's say,
console preservation, historic preservation that I really enjoy. Like, I'm
not the type. I'm not one of you Sikos yet
who knows that wants to like go grab every old
console just for the sake of having it.
Speaker 2: But if it's in lego form, though, Grub, that's cool.
Though exactly it really is. It's cool. The game Boy
is fantastic. Yeah, I hope they just keep doing this.
Speaker 1: I hope that Sony's like on board, let's just do
all of our consoles, give us, give us the PSP.
Speaker 2: What the hell? You know?
Speaker 1: When they do this for Nintendo often there are things
like for the Game Boy, the the images you can
slide into the game Boy screen so it looks like
you're playing Links Awakening or whatever. What could they do
with the PlayStation to accomplish something like that. They probably
wouldn't have the CRT like they did with the NES,
they would probably make it something else, like something on
the memory card.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm like looking at the game Boy set that I
have now, and I think what would get me go
and grub is just like a working door, like the
disc door and like the buttons.
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, oh yeah, Actually the pressing those buttons
always felt good. If they could just sort of replicate
that even a little bit, but especially the door openings,
there's something there and then there can even like be
something inside that would be cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like all those gone really good at like parts
that can come on and off and that are designed
to come on and off, and like I had a
little bit of motion. It's not super complicated in the
Game Boy one of course, but if this PlayStation one,
and it's also supposed to cost like what grab one
hundred and sixty dollars, Yeah, that's right, I would hope
for something to spin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know at that price with this
many pieces. They have done equivalently equivalently difficult things in
their builds before, for like Nintendo devices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I would kind of hope.
Speaker 1: So, like you know that CRT right, has like the
spinning Mario scene for the NS kit, So yeah, I
would expect something like that, and they're they're really good
at that and that they know that's a gimmick that works.
So yeah, I hope so as well either way PlayStation.
Speaker 2: This is very cool. I hope we get a lot
more of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Silent Hill to Remake has surpassed five million players. This
is from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. Konami has revealed
that Silent Hill to Remake, a project developed by Bluebird Team,
has now hit a very impressive player milestone. Ever since
it debuted in October twenty twenty four, of the game
has managed to continue to entice players, so much so
that now as many as five million players have been
registered for the game.
Speaker 2: Not bad. I think that, you know, very very good,
right this.
Speaker 1: I mean the Silent Hill series is ascending and that
is that's best case.
Speaker 2: Scenario for Konami, right mm.
Speaker 3: Hmm, I think very very good for Konami. Good for
Blueber as well, right yeah. Blueber kind of like turning
the rep around and also Konami turning their reputation around,
and like the metal gear collection definitely helped with that.
But this especially I feel like is a good hopefully
a good sign for things to come out of Konami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, at the very least you can
tell tell the motivation is there from a lot of
these companies that have been inspired by Capcom to like, hey,
if we make good games. I mean you were saying it,
make put out good game, you know you sort of
you're gonna succeed, and I think, you know, especially like
Monster Hunter Stories three, I will say, hey, Mike, look
at these review scores.
Speaker 2: I'm glad he picked that up.
Speaker 1: Because it's like man eighty five on open credit for
that game. Yeah, that's like, okay, things continue to improve,
and it's like it was already in a space where
like a Monster Hunter too, I think people are like, hey,
this is really good and it averaged out and again
it's it's just review scores, but it helps us kind
of put these things in perspective. Averaged out to about
an eighty one, it's like, hey, that's that's pretty good,
well done. If you just keep doing that forever with
these I bet it they're going to find their audience
and like, no, if we keep making it better, more
people will show, will show up and it's like, yeah,
I've seen more people excited about Monster Hunter Stories.
Speaker 2: Three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Konami's got to see that that has continued to
work for Capcom. They know they have the historical vintage
juice there as well.
Speaker 2: Vintage juice doesn't sound good.
Speaker 1: They can know they got that that old school juice
there as well, that they can sort of play on
and if as long as they keep putting out good games,
they should be able to accomplish similar results I would expect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not everything is going to be a home
run Grub and Silence. Yeah two is totally one of
the more popular ones in the franchise. But I think
this has restored enough interest in not only Silent Hill
but Konami where people will be inclined to come back
and maybe hopefully Konami can be can experiment a little
bit more with their existing IP as well. We see
that Monster Inner Stories. They've gotten to three titles at
this point, grub right, despite me never checking out any
of them, despite them being fairly reviewed, Well, there's an
audience for them, so Grub I'm calling it here. Now,
Konami just make a jerr PG. But in the Silent
Hill universe.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah they could. Yes, that would work, and I
think it would do very well.
Speaker 3: And it's just a party of mentally ill absentee fathers.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, the most powerful party you can imagine.
Speaker 3: I would all of them in green jackets, untucked shirts,
bootcut gens.
Speaker 2: Police have tuck. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're describing something that would It's like it sounds
like like a weird bizarro world of Final Fantasy fifteen.
It's like just these dads on a road trip. All right,
let's keep going here. Overwatch direct reveals his next game,
and it looks like Red Dead Redemption two meets Russ.
This is from Ethan Gotch at Kotaku. Jeff Kaplin has
a new studio and a new game. It might not
be what you expect from the Blizzard veteran who led
design for years on World of Warcraft and directed Overwatch.
It's called the Legend of California and it looks like
Red Dead Redemption two if you turned it into a
survival crafting sim. It's the debut GA game from Kaplan's
new studio. Ken Sugiyama. You think that's good enough, Jan,
I think that's probably good enough. Good dam my best
there everybody, and it's being published by Dreamhaven, the company
formed by ex Blizzard president Michael Moreheim.
Speaker 2: Revealed out of the Blue late yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's a multiplayer action survival FPS set on the island
of California during the gold Rush era, according to a
new Steam page listing, Okay, so I normally I typically
don't include like new game announcements. Better at this point, Jan,
It's like, yeah, games get announced all the time, but
this is Jeff Kaplin, this is like a superstar developer,
and Okay, but then it's a survival game, and those
are you know, Diamond doesn't I don't think mean necessarily
dismissing their popularity because those come out, they find huge audiences.
It's just like if you know, if you're into them already.
But again, Jeff Kaplan and I think he's going to
be able to command some attention here. Do you think
he'll be able to parlay that into success with this game?
And will that success become from the traditional survival game
or audience or the people who followed Jeff Kaplan's blog posts.
Speaker 3: I think it could be a little bit of both.
Grub Right, like Jeff Kaplan definitely curries some favor, a
lot of favor if we're being honest with audiences, and
also a survival game. It is just one of those
genres of grub that always has an audience despite there
being a million of them out there. And I think
something that I know on this website we've done a
little bit of reevaluating Red Dead Redemption two. Still not
for me, but I like Cowboys. This could be something
that captures that audience. Because I also didn't realize, Greb,
that there is a subset of gamers out there that,
despite Red Dead Redemption two being I know there's an
online mode, but despite being a single player game, is
some people's forever.
Speaker 2: Game, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you start putting mods on that thing, and
it's a whole it becomes completely different very fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if they can capture some of the appeal and
like the random things that can happen in Red Dead
Redemption two, but also tie in a survival aspect, you're
gonna get a lot of freaks out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: At the very least, it's like, Okay, you know, a rust,
but set in this very different kind of like it's
not that different from a RUST, but it's different from
a lot of the other survival games. Yeah, and honestly
sounds a lot like a rust you know, old school
gold Rush California. But I still like that ideas, like
it feels different spiritually from a lot of those games.
I was wondering, like, what happened to Jeff Kaplan just
the other day. It's like, you know, I don't remember
him talking about a studio. A lot of these developers
from that era of Blizzard did kind of spin out,
and a lot of them we haven't heard from a
lot of them, but a lot a lot of these
studios did put out like those real time strategy games,
and it doesn't feel like any of them sort of
did what the expectation was, which is like, hey, once
we make a real StarCraft successor, that audience will show up.
Speaker 2: And that didn't seem to be the case.
Speaker 1: Do you think at the very least, him trying something
different here is probably maybe a better strategy than trying
to mean he couldn't have made an Overwatch clone.
Speaker 2: Right, that would have been crazy.
Speaker 3: No, that would have been incredibly misguided. And I don't
think Jeff Kaplan would have done that because nothing Obviously,
you know, he still of course holds over Watch with
high reverence in his own heart, so I appreciate this
divert in the next game he wants to make. I
also like whenever a popular director of a game, Greb
will come back out of like pseudo retirement or not
even full retirement and be like trying to flex everything,
Like check this out. I got this idea. Sometimes it
doesn't pan out well. Right in the case of the
Legend of California, I hope it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hell of a name. What do you like?
Speaker 1: What landmarks do you want to see in this game
so you know you're in California, jan.
Speaker 3: I want to see I want to see trains, Greb.
I want to see a railroad.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to see Jonathan Blow doing Taichi outside
of GDC. That's that's what I want to see anything now,
and now I know where I'm at. Valve claps back
against New York Attorney General lawsuit in rare public response.
This is from Alex Hopley at Game Reactor, in a
case that's probably about five or even ten years too
late to jump on the hatred people had for loot Box.
Is the Attorney General of New York decided to bring
a lawsuit to Steam platform owner Valve, citing its use
of loop boxes in Counterstrike two, Team Fortress two and
Dota two as unlawful and harmful to children. Last night,
Valve issued a response. In somewhat of a rare occurrence,
the Steam owner decided to create a public statement on the.
Speaker 2: Matter, posted via the Steam website.
Speaker 1: We rarely talk about litigation, but we felt we should
explain the situation to you, Valve started to explain in
its opening paragraph. We shared with the New York Attorney
General that these types of boxes in our games are
widely used, not just in video games, but in the
tangible world as well, where generations have grown up opening
baseball cards, baseball packs, and blind boxes and bags, and
then trading and selling the items they receive on the
physical side. Popular products used in this way include baseball cards, Pokemon,
magic La Boo Boo. In the game Space, digital packs
similar to our boxes date back to two thousand and
four and are in widespread use. Players don't have to
open mystery boxes to play Valve games. In fact, most
of you don't open any boxes at all and just
play the games because the items in the boxes are
purely cosmetic. There is no disadvantage to put to a
player not spending money. Valve goes on in this way
for a little bit, But those are the big popular
talking points that a company like them would would lay out,
and Jen I generally agree for the most part. Where
it's like, yeah, this is pretty similar to Pokemon cardbacks.
Here's where it's like, I agree, but I don't care.
I love the idea of a big company that makes
a lot of money getting some scrutiny. Let's just take
a look. You say it's like you say, it's like
Pokemon cards. Just show us the math that we were
sure that you've kept track of. Show us that it's
just like Pokemon cards, and that you're not putting a
little juice on top, and that you're not putting just
a little bit of extra sugar where you kind of
manipulate the algorithm in your favor, something that may be
at the very least extremely difficult to do with physical cardbacks,
or maybe even impossible.
Speaker 2: So just prove it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some we're gonna have some scrutiny. Come in,
take a look, and you tell us what's really going on,
and if it satisfies us. I bet this does go away,
and if it doesn't, well let's talk about why not.
Speaker 2: Right, one hundred percent. Grub.
Speaker 3: Also, you know, I'm looking at all the different things
that Valve listed out, Baseball cards, Pokemon cards, la boo boos,
and as someone that has existed in the periphery of
all of those things, those aren't good comparisons for me
because like, as, yeah, that's how they are. That doesn't
mean manipulate it good. How they are, It's been bad.
And just because people will like rip open packs as
a hobby doesn't mean it's a good hobby because it
is still incredibly predatory to do like it. Near me,
there was a stabbing over Pokemon cards, so that's not
something that's not a fun comparison I want to have either.
But I'm with you, Grub of like, okay, well, if
you were pointing these fingers across everyone else, then just
show me, show me the dirt then, Valve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want some friction out there, right.
Speaker 1: There was this idea of we should let grown adults
who who have matured and can make their own decisions
decide what they want to do with their money. If
they want to gamble on sports. We should let them.
And it's like, you know what, it's hard to argue against,
you know, your body or choice. Like literally people would
say that sort of thing. I'd say, Okay, well that's
going a bit far, buddy, But I get what you're
trying to get at. We shouldn't be going into people
and like treating them like their nannies, okay, And then
as soon as you give them an inch, they take
forty fucking miles. And now the world's been controlled by
gambling sites in one way or the other in every
industry you can possibly imagined imagine, and it's it's obviously
clearly like transparently awful like it is. It is a
talk about machines to extract value out of people. That
is the nuclear weapon designed to extract money out of people,
and it does so in a way that is pernicious
and obviously wrong, and something should be done about it.
Because we took all the friction out of the way,
we can't even like send regulators after them.
Speaker 2: And it's like, man, this should definitely be regulated.
Speaker 1: And if it's still like a corner of it's still
made legal, and we just tax the hell out of it.
Tax every bet, like that's the way they should do it,
Like every bet you make should be taxed, and it's
like just a little bit of money on top, and
it's like, I bet that would discourage a lot of
people over time and at the very least use that
money to improve schools or whatever. But we don't have
any of that regulation because we gave them an inch,
and that gave them the biggest loophole they needed. And
now they're on the other side and they control everything.
Speaker 2: So let's go.
Speaker 1: Ahead and keep where we can throw up barriers on
anything that is even somewhat similar to this idea.
Speaker 2: Let's do it right, one hundred percent grub.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with companies being more transparent.
If they're making such a big stink about even being
looked at or scrutinized, then put your money where your
mouth is and show us how much fucking money you
are making from these show us from the people.
Speaker 1: You're not a publicly traded company, but you are still
like you have to answer to the public when we
ask you to just show us.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it, and if you can satisfy.
Speaker 1: Us, I bet people will actually be satisfied because there's
a lot of faith in Valve and people want to
feel good about that company. And I think that company,
for the most part, privately owned, wants to maintain that
that it's important to them, Well, then earn it, and
we're asking you to do that this way, and I
think that's a completely fair and reasonable ask. All right,
last story here, E Shop reveals Super meat Boy three
D is coming to Nintendo switch To at the end
of the month. The long awaited Super meat Boy three
D was announced a few weeks back for the Nintendo
switch To, and today the Nintendo e Shop page has
gone live. The shop listing states that the game will
arrive on Nintendo's latest system on the thirty first of
March for twenty five dollars and will be roughly three
point one gigabytes in size.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It's yeah. People are like, I want
to be excited about this, but that Met Boy Forever
game was somewhat disappointing. I think that was the Auto
Runner or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, okay, I hope that this is where
the energies were going though, because I would love for
meat Boy to be back, you know, Eugenics. I didn't
love the esthetic, and this, of course is very similar.
But I always did have a soft spot for meat
Boys gameplay, and if you could translate that even a
little bit to three D. I want to see what
that game looks like and what it plays like. And
it looks kind of promising, so cool to see it
kind of came out of nowhere for me. Oh that's
already coming out, and of course it's been for forever,
but you know, I just wasn't thinking that it was
around the corner, and here it is. Grub.
Speaker 3: What I will say, though, and I'm not going to
reveal the people I've talked to, I will say, out
of folks that have played several platformers coming out of
GDC this week so far, Grub, it seems like the
heat on the street may not be around Super meat
Boy three D, but it's around Bubbzy Look.
Speaker 1: Look all right, Yeah, I think I think Bubbsy four
D is going to be awesome, especially because that's that's
for braz They just did It's Demon Tides.
Speaker 2: I think it's the new one. Yeah, that in that
game is very good.
Speaker 1: I started playing it myself finally, and I did play
a little bit of Bobsy four dy that demo that preview, Yeah,
I was impressed. So let's see, at the very least,
I'll have a new Bubbsy game. And everybody knows that's
for me, the Bubbsy guy, Jeff Grub, everybody.
Speaker 2: To you, the loves guy.
Speaker 3: Speaking about Nintendo, I did check out a couple of
games grub from GDC this week, specifically the one I
do want to talk about real real quick, Mina the Hollower.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, really, oh man, that's so awesome, I hope.
So you know a thing to consider.
Speaker 3: These are all very shorter demos because they have to
turn through so many people in a very tight time window.
But with the brief time I had with a Grub,
Mina has got the juice. I dig it a bunch right.
It really delivers on the promise of what if Legend
of Zelda but cool mouse with quip and she can dig.
Speaker 1: Yep dig and kind of jump out of the ground
and it all just felt so good when I played
it forever ago. But it was one of those ones
where it's like they're they're aiming at me, you know,
links Awakening, This game looks a lot like that.
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite games.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna it's gonna be hard for me to judge, Like,
is this just getting me the nostalgia of the aesthetics
and the really snappy gameplay. So Jan, you're going in
there and enjoying it's like, Okay, there might be something
more to it than just me liking this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And it feels like there's you know, there's a couple
other miscllaneous, different little bits and bobs that will appeal
to different sorts of play types as well. So, right,
if it initially may not be for you, it does
seem like there will be different things to pick up
throughout the game to find too to how you want
to play that style of game.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get over to the poll question, which
I believe Mike did. Right, let me go ahead and
open this over here.
Speaker 2: I will refresh.
Speaker 1: I was listening while I was doing some other stuff,
and yeah, there we go. Have you bought a video
game themed lego set?
Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? I'm gonna say that I have because I.
Speaker 1: Have, so did thirty four percent? Sixty six percent said
no they haven't. One third of our audience showing up
for those Jan that's that's quite a few people, right.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, if you get.
Speaker 1: One third of the kinds of people who listen to
podcasts like this buying that thing, Yeah, that's that's quite
a bit of money. Kind of makes sense why they
keep why they keep returning to it. There's a likely
very large overlap in the Vinn diagram of people who
build Lego and people who would enjoy these old video
game consoles.
Speaker 3: Right, one hundred percent. Also, I am curious if people,
if they didn't buy the video game Lego sets, if anything,
the other video game ip they they thought to vote
yes and this, Like there was that Horizon kit, the
Dikou tree from Legend of Zelda. A bunch of Lego
freaks out there. I here's a thing, grub. I don't
know what people's interest is in watching someone build Lego.
I did it a couple times during the pandemic, but
a lot of people were very into Abby and Jurff
building a keyboard yesterday. So sometimes I wonder.
Speaker 2: To Jeff, are finally relenting and doing that stream with her? Yeah? Finally.
Speaker 3: But I'm curious if you know people out there are
interested in watching like a Lego building stream here here
on GB because it could be fun times. Also the
unfortunate part gang everyone out there. If your significant other,
your parents, your siblings, your friends, if they know that
you're very into games, you're going to get these as
Christmas gifts for the foreseeable future. This is just what
they're going These are the targeted ads, y'all.
Speaker 2: Yep, and hey, they they're right, that's a that's a
pretty good gift for anyone who's kind of in this space.
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have a winner there, even among like
the sixty six percent of we're like, no, I've never
had that. If you get like one of the easier ones,
get the game Boy, that's a fun afternoon right there.
Speaker 2: H gundam stream Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean people do that and I'm into that every
once in a while, even though I've never built gumpla.
Is that what people say? Yeah, yeah, I've never done that.
I would like to, but at the very least watching
that is a lot of fun. Okay, let's see here
we have a new poll question, which let's get to now,
are you getting a switch to for Pacopia?
Speaker 2: Yes? No, I already had a switch to. Those are
your options.
Speaker 1: We'll get the results of that tomorrow here on Games
Mornings on Giant Bomb Speak at a Giant Bomb Jam.
Speaker 2: What's happening? I just got back. I don't know what
you guys do it anymore.
Speaker 3: I've voice smailed dump truck popping off later today. A
third episode of Marry Me Tomadacci going live later today tomorrow,
another episode of Games More, we'll have upf I think
we're still fine tuning the bells and whistles as to
what to do tomorrow for that. But gang, we've had
another hot week of content for y'all. But speaking about
content grub, you know what else they can do is
if you at home are interested in going to Packs
East twenty twenty six, we will be there. We're gonna
have three panels. Details are still a little bit up
in the air. We're fine tuning and locking down the schedule,
but you can expect at least three panels. Vinnie Caravella
will be joining us for one of them. But if
you still have not bought a Pax East pass and
you are a Giant Bomb dot Com Slant Premium member,
if you head to the Behind the Scenes channel, you'll
get a discount code for fifteen percent off your ticket.
You can also enter a raffle though grub for two
free tickets two packs east.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. I didn't know about all that. That's really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everyone get on that please. Hey, and I
saw some people say, hey, there's no Bomb twelve link updated.
Speaker 2: I'll do that right now. I'm looking at the new link.
I'll put it up on.
Speaker 1: The site and I'll skeet about it so everyone can
just get it there. We can get it updated because
tomorrow we're gonna we're gonna have a new Bomb twelve,
so we're gonna get some We're gonna need some new games,
new answers.
Speaker 2: There that that'll be there to wrap up the end
of the week.
Speaker 1: You know, my kids don't have school tomorrow, so it
felt like Friday today, even though I haven't worked this
week other than being at GDC non stop, like oh no, no,
we have worked the tomorrow as well. But I'm excited
because I'm looking forward to Tomodachi later today, looking forward
to kind of wrapping up the week with some fun stuff.
It's gonna be good, alright, jan anything else that we
have to do, I think I just got to say
thank you for hanging out with me and talking about
video games.
Speaker 2: Man, I really appreciate it. It's the only way to start
a Thursday.
Speaker 3: Greb.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for watching and listening. You are the
best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
take care of yourself and goodbye.