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Speaker 1: People don't understand how markets function. I think that's the

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real problem. And they call these things emotionally rather than quantitatively,

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and markets are they function like a pendule and it goes,

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you know, to an extreme on one side and the

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weight brings it back the other way, and they just

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don't understand that.

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is back with us. We're going to be talking about Iran.

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We're going to be talking about his prior call on Ukraine,

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what that is about. And once again in the book

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Speaker 4: It's selling amazing.

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Speaker 3: Over eighteen hundred copies have sold in one form or another,

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and the link to purchase the book is in the

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show notes to this interview and you'll find it to

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just click the description box. Martin's great to have you

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on and I can't tell you how honored I am

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to put this book out. I mean, to me, the

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best forecaster you made, maybe wasn't. The most precise was

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back in twenty eighteen when you said, Carrie, the dow

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is going to forty five thousand between I think the

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end of twenty two and twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I believe the.

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Speaker 3: Date was December fourteenth, twenty four. It hit forty five thousand,

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and nobody, but no one else out there made a

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call anywhere near to that. Yeah, some people said, yeah,

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the market's going up, and I think it's going to

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go higher, but nobody made the precise call that you made.

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And you know, so many people ask me, how did

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you do it?

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Speaker 4: How did you make that call? What?

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Speaker 3: What did the tea leaves tell you?

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Speaker 1: Our computer's just been very, very accurate. I mean you

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can look. That's why they they did a documentary on

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me the forecaster that they're doing a sequel, and now

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they're doing a Hollywood film on it. I mean eighty seven,

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for example, computer gave the very day of the crash,

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and I came out back day and even Lyrie etels

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today he was shocked. He came out as the markets crashing,

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say okay, fine, here's the low and the market's going

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to go back and make new highs. And as Larry says,

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everybody thought I was crazy. Yeah is it? And it

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does same thing Barons wrote. I think it was two

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thousand and nine. They thought it was a joke. The

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Armstrong says, you know, this is the low and it's

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going to make new highs. I was barren. They put

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it out, you know, makes new highs. They people don't

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understand how markets function. I think that's the real problem.

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And they call these things emotionally rather than quantitatively, and

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markets are They function like a pendule and it goes,

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you know, to an extreme when one and the weight

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brings it back the other way. And they just don't

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understand that. That Like when I was called into the

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Brady Commission in eighty seven, you know, I told him,

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I said, you know, you know, initially they said, oh,

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we're going to find the guy that shorted this market

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pushed it down, blah blah blah, right, And I said,

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you realize that every investigation since nineteen oh seven started

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the same way. I said, don't you understand how markets function.

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It's not some giant short that's never going to happen.

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one side, something happens, They try to get out and

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they can't, and you call the broker and he says

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no bid. Then it goes down a bouthl points. You know,

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I've seen it so many times. Japan Russia collapsed ninety eight. Uh,

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will pay you your full hourly rate from the time

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you get on a plane to the time you return

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to teach this guy how to trade. And I said,

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who the how is this? It was only over in

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Geneva and he lost twenty five million dollars on one

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day in Gold. Wow. And he was short and he

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made the low. Basically he was the short that how

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to get out. And uh so I've seen it so

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many times. I mean I was doing a conference in Tokyo.

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right the hotel to get in. He came up to

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me and he apologized, and he said that he just

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had to talk to me. I said, what was so urgent?

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market the very day of the high. And what I

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found interesting was it was he was in his late

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bought the high, and he said the brokers had called

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him for seven years and kept saying, look, thenk goes

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up five percent every January, and he bought it. The

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last day December, he made the high and lost, you know,

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forty percent of his fifty million bucks. You know, I've

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what happens is everybody gets caught up on one side,

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bullish bearers, doesn't matter, and then some news happens or

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whatever it is, and some people start to take profit

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and that makes the market go down or up from

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shorts or whatever. And then next thing you know, you

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get in there and there's just no bid. When Russia

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collapsed in ninety eight, all right, all the long term

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capital management and all the banks, the hedge front. They're

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all on the same trade. They try to get out

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they could, So what happened that turned into a massive

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liquidity crisis. They start selling everything else from stocks and currencies,

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any other position. They had to raise money to cover

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the losses in Russia, and so that became a huge,

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you know, liquidity crisis, and that's when the FED had

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to step in and actually bail out long term capital management.

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it's always the same thing, and that's what we have

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to understand. And I think the best way to visualize this,

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it's a pendulum. It's wings to one extreme and then

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its own weight brings it back the other way. And

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it doesn't matter if you're talking about up or down

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or whatever. Then you have the politicians who don't understand anything,

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and market goes down, and then they want to outlaw

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short selling when the shortest, the only one has the

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courage to buy in a padic, Yeah, to go ahead,

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eliminate him and then watch what you are you gonna

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go down another thousand points.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's.

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Speaker 1: They just don't understand it. So we get to these

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extremes back and fourth and this is it. I mean gold,

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the same thing I said. Look, you know, you know

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gold's going to go up eventually. We're going to look

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go to these extremes, and when you get to that extreme,

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then it reverses. But it does matter what market you're

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looking at. You know, on our system, we develop what

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it's called, we call it the Global market Watch, and

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it has a comment for every market in the world

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there but underneath the comment it has the number, and

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that number is the pattern. And what I've seen is that,

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you know, the theory I had was okay, fine, let

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the computer catalog all of the patterns and it will

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find in the same pattern in different markets. The commonality

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is human nature. It doesn't matter what the instrument is.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about first Ukraine call. That was highly controversial.

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Basically you said the computer saying it's pretty much gonna disappear.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: As a as a country or as a separate country.

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Speaker 4: What do you think that means?

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Speaker 1: Look, people think that, you know, like I'm anti Ukraine,

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and it's exactly the opposite. For the Ukrainian people. They

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had two employees there in Ukraine, one in Kieva, one

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in dun Esk. It is the Neo cons that are

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pushing war all the time. You had a piece deal

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and Baris Johnson hops on the plane, goes over it

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to Kiev and the zellin Ski is not allowed to

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sign it. I mean, not even made the front page

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of Provta. Look, you know they've done the same thing

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in Romania. They Europe. The EU is perfectly willing to

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sacrifice all the Eastern Europeans to reduce Russia. All right.

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They want to conquer Russia. Period. Russia's got seventy five

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trillion dollars worth of natural resources. It's the richest country

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in the world. Hitler tried to do it, Napoleon tried

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to do it, and I mean even Sweden tried to

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do it back, you know, you know Peter the Great.

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had the world's largest gold reserves, and somebody hid them.

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They don't know where they're at. They didn't want the

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Bolsheviks to get them, and so the rumor is that

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they've been buried in a far to drop to the

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bottom of a lake or something, but would probably make

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like a movie like The Knight's Temporary, you know, trying

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to find it. But you know, this is their agenda.

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They don't care. I mean, when Zelenski ran for office,

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he promised peace and you can google it Russia with

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you know, favoring him. The death toll was one hundred

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and thirty thousand. It's now over one point two million.

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historically Russian. Even Breshneff was born there right right, And

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you know, forget all the propaganda from the mainstream which

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is just put out by the neil Kons. Look at

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the timeline. You know, reorchestrated the twenty fourteen revolution. Victoria

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Newlan was there handing out sandwiches, and you have gentlemen

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McCain on the stage saying, overthrow your government. We're with you,

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all right. And as soon as they did, Victoria Newland

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and there was even a tape that she you know,

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that got leaked out where she said, you know, f

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the you know, the ego, and they stuck in their

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own people and immediately instructed them to start the civil

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war and attack the dumbas.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean they don't care about the Ukrainian people. Uh,

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you know this is I don't know what's wrong with

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these people. We're seeing the same thing you got Lindsey

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Graham saying, you know, go ahead and destroy all of Iran.

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I mean there's ninety million people there. They I don't

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know what it is with these They have no respect

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for human life whatsoever. They just don't So Iran is

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just another issue. But they're all connected. They've been orchestrating

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these things for quite some time. The computer is showing

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that Ukraine they will fight the the West is basically

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telling them to keep fighting until there's no Ukrainian left. Uh.

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Over eight million have fled the country. Our two employees

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are in Berlin now and there's no nobody wants to

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go back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Mind so many people in Florida from Ukraine. It's amazing. Yeah,

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it's becoming like little Kiev down in in Dade County, Miami,

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Dade County, so y.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's uh, I know, I bumped into a bunch

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of them, my shelf. It's uh, you know, this is

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what what you're looking at. And I don't see Ukraine surviving.

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They had you know, look, they were independent, all right,

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that was it. I mean, just because you know, the

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Kovich was pro Russian versus EU. They had to overthrow

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the government and then deliberately use this to start a war.

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You've got the same thing going on with Iran. You

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had Telsea Gabbert basically testify before Congress and say that

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they're got eighteen months away from getting a nuclear bomb,

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and you know, and then all of a sudden it's

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it's urgent, We're going to do it right now. I

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Mean the problem with this stuff is Iran has does

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have uh, supersonic vessels. The only way you know, they

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claim that they had, you know, domestic development of them,

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et cetera. But most intelligent uh points to you know

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that they were asisted by Russia. China gets about eighty

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you know, eighty percent of all the oil from Iran. Right,

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So if you take out Iran and this is not

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about nuclear weapons, all right, this is regime change, you

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get m hm. They decapitated basically the top leaders in

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the government, and they wanted to even kill the you know,

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the Supreme leader. Trump said no, uh, I mean this

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do that, all right. Uh, that takes the US to

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do it, and they at the US to step in.

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But the other thing was basically too for regime change.

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And you have to question here, given their contact with

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Russia and China, is it just another New Khan toy

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uh to get us involved in another endless war.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: And look met Yahoo. Many people don't realize, but he

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went to school in Cheltenham, Pennsylvania. He grew up there

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and visited the family of Bill Crystal, whose father Irving

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started the whole Newo Khan movement.

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Speaker 3: And Bill is still a member. And Bill was getting

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millions of dollars this foundation from US aid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Netan Yahoo is part of the Neo Khan movement,

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all right. His popularity in Israel as of June of

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last year was the last time I looked at it

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was down to twenty nine percent. So he doesn't have

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the the you know, the overwhelming majority of Israeli people

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behind it either. So it's kind of like Zolenski, you know,

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and he just won't have elections because he knows he

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would lose. So I mean, I, in all honesty, I

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think Trump has been played. He knew he was against

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the neo CON's domestically like John Bolton, et cetera, Victoria Nulan.

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I don't think he realized that just because net Yahoo

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or bb is is the head of Israel, that that's different.

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But he's part of the same crew.

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Speaker 3: So we if we get word three here, or are

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we going to pull back from the precipice? Now?

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Speaker 1: Look the computer, Uh, the computer is showing volatility around

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this globally, So it doesn't indicate that we're looking at

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something isolated that's just going to stay with Iran and.

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Speaker 3: Israel.

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Speaker 1: Israel just trying to get the US involved. And at

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the same time, I'm I I and skeptical whether Russia

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and China would allow Iran to just simply completely fall apart. Uh.

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It's it's really you know, we're pushing this up against

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the edge again.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sources that I have have been saying that Zelenski was

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conspiring with the Brits to use an old Soviet torpedo

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to sink an American ship to blame it on on Russia.

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M Uh. And the same thing you know, in with Iran,

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false flags have been used to start wars all the time.

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Hitler's you know, set fire to the right stack, you know,

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to blame communists, which happened to be they thought going

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after the Jews was that it was sold more of

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a that you had Lenin and Trotsky were Jewish, so

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communism was this Jewish conspiracy. Uh, and that's how they

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kind of like started it. And then it's like you know,

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the well the bankers were the Jews, and then like

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you had Crystal Knock, et cetera. But it started in

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and even in Ukraine. They were basically saying that communism

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was this Jewish conspiracy. That's where we're kind of how

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they sold it. And that's why he blamed the right

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stock fire on the communist So you had you know,

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you can look on Wikipedia. Uh, there's you know, Operation Northwoods.

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Same thing they proposed to Kennedy to kill Americans and

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blame it on Cuba to justify an evasion there, and

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he rejected it. So they probably took him out, as

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all the evidence is suggesting that the CIA took him

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out because you wouldn't go into Vietnam. We just have

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to understand it. And there was no weapons of mass destruction.

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You can google it and you'll see that there were

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investigations that FDR couldn't get us into World War two,

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and so he set things up against the Japanese for

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Pearl Harbor. And then they found out that we had,

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you know, broken their code and knew about it in advance.

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And I put on my site just two days before

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and there was the Honolulu Tribune said we're going to

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be attacked on the weekend, you know, And there was

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a big Senate investigation on it. So obviously the conspiracy

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theories were good enough to get a Senate It's investigation going.

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And the conclusion is, well, we're not entirely short after

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Yard knew we were going to be attacked in advance.

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Speaker 4: All right, so.

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Speaker 3: You know, you still adhering to your call for twenty

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thirty two I think DAWs sixty two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, it's it's uh. All I can say is

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that the more you keep this cret poking that were

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dragging on one side and the bear on the other side,

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I mean, this is not gonna end. Well never does now,

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I mean what wars are you know, everybody always starts.

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They think, oh, they're gonna win, and they're gonna it's

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gonna be short, sweeting to the point they never.

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Speaker 3: Are welcome us as a liberators on the streets right,

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the s.

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Speaker 4: A bagda right.

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Speaker 1: My concern is that the computer basically does show World

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War three and that it's englfing everything. And I can't

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explain it, but it does seem as though there are contagions.

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I mean this go. I mean, for example, Rome over

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threw with uh it's king and five O nine B

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state within the Pube Bathons overthrows as tyrant democracy is born,

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American Revolution, George Washington's being you know, sworn in in

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seventeen eighty nine. To French girl, that's a good idea,

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and they're over the French revolution starts. I mean, these

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things are common. You have tenements square within basically what

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was the twenty six weeks the Berlin wolffalls it's and

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what we're seeing right now it is kind of alarming

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to me. Uh, you're even seeing wherever there were tensions

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historical way between one group and another, they all seem

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to be rising up again. We gave a handful of

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of of jets to Greece and what what They even

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made a statement that major front pages over there. Oh

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now we can we can launch a surprise attack on Turkey.

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I mean, that's the dispute between the two of them,

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been going on since Alexander the Great. Uh, it's I mean,

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we had offices over in Thailand, and all of a sudden,

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Thailand is in a border dispute with Cambodia, India and Pakistan.

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You everywhere you go Taiwan, North Korea versus the South

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and Japan is you know, maybe the only place that

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doesn't seem to be in complete chaos right now is

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maybe in Africa and South America. That's about it. Yeah,

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just give them time. It's that's I don't know how

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to describe it other than it seems to be like

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a contagion. Oh that's a good idea, you know. Yeah,

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they pissed me off a long time ago. Let's go

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get a id all. You had the former chairman of Germany, Bismarck,

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in eighteen eighty a. He forecasted that Europe would be

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in a major war and he said it's going to

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come from the Balkans. He was, you know, premature in

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nineteen fourteen to serve child in Austrian heir to the throne,

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the arch duke, and boom you have War three, you know,

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World War one. So I mean it's just I mean

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that area is you know, Look, as I said, we

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had employees in Ukraine, one from Kiev. We had we

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had a conference and in Greece and she refused to

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fly back to Fense this way simply because of how

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to stop over a Moscow. The hatred there between Ukrainians

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and Russians are It's just systemic. Same thing in the

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Middle East. I mean, how do you solve this when

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you're talking about religious disputes? Yeah, it's not an economic thing,

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all right, fine, I'll give you this, you give me

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that whatever it's. You know, Island is still split, you know,

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north versus South between protesting Catholic go to England and

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they still call it Catholic a pape in that's from

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the Civil War sixteen forty nine. Well, it's religion. I

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just I don't know if there is any solution. I know, honestly,

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I just don't know.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we'll leave it at that and just

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everybody get the book The World.

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Speaker 4: According to Martin.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong, a lot of these forecasts are in there. A

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lot of forecasts that have come true have are in

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there as well. Finally, gold and silver, So you think

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gold five thousand, Silver just broke thirty seven bucks. Where

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is silver heading?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, silver will eventually test a fifty

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dollars level two. The thing to understand about precious metals

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is that they do not go up with inflation that

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is propaganda been sold around for a long time. They

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go up with geopolitical concerns. That's why you see them rising.

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You may see gold break out to the upside going

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into July, mainly because this war with Iran does not

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look like it's going to be settled. They look more

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like it's going to be prolonged. So you don't just

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be prepared. But I would say that that's what you're

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really looking at it. You know, the precious metals are

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a hedge against government. You don't know who's going to

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win in a war, so you're based their cret go

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in that direction, and.

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Speaker 3: We need all the hedges we can get. Now, a

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platinum was under one thousand for years. Now it's in

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the twelve hundreds. It's a tiny market. It's not really

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reflective of the other markets. There's in dustrial uses catalytic converters.

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But historically platinum always traded for more than gold. Are

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we going to see that again?

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, because it is more on the industrial side

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and most of your supply actually comes out of Russia.

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Russia is actually the only country that given issued coins

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in platinum, and they were always the most expensive, the

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highest denominations over and above gold. But look with with

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war expanding, and the real problem I should say about

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the Middle East is that if this turns more into

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a religious dispute, all right, you have already sent an

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awful lot of people from this region, Syria, et cetera,

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into York, and it wasn't to assimilate. They have retained

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their distinct cultures, etc. And this turns into more of

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a jihad. Our computer is not looking very favorably on York.

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You're looking at a lot of civil ration in most

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of the major cities.

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Speaker 4: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we got the word directly from Martin Armstrong.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: The book is the world according to Martin Armstrong conversations

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with the Master Forecaster. The link is in the description

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to buy the book, and like I said, we sold

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the phenomenal number now considering I'm an independent publisher, self published,

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no publishing house, no PR and nothing, just the truth

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and the videos.

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Speaker 4: So go buy it.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a question for Martin or myself, please

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shoot me an email. Klatcarrieluts dot com. Make sure you

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you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for inviting me. Take care over there.

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