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Speaker 1: Nobody does it better, man, They're fantastic. So state of

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BYU right now, BYU basketball, let's talk about it. Big

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twelve tournament time. How far will BYU go in the

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Big twelve Tournament? Do you think?

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Speaker 3: Win two games and then probably bout against Houston. So

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win today against K State B West Virginia, give a

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little revenge not in Morgantown, and then three games three

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day is gonna be a lot to take on a fresh,

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really good Houston squad and Colin Good have a week

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to rest up for the NCAA tournament and then go

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see if you can't win two games.

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Speaker 1: Go win two games. That's quote job well done, rest

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up and get ready for selection Sunday in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it. Like let's say the UY

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did pull off a Craig upset against Houston on Thursday,

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should they get there, I don't know that it helps

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you a ton like I don't know that the Uyu

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would get up to a five seed. I think they

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would lock in a six. I think if YU wins today,

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they've got a good chance of the six If they

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beat West Virginia, they got a great chance of the

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sixth seed in the anti tournament. If you happen to

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beat Houston, which just feels like a crazy tall order.

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Three games in three days, where Aj and Rob are

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probably playing almost forty minutes every game. That's a lot

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to ask, even those young lives. So yeah, go get

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you a sixth seed, which has been great to b

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YU in two of the three Sweet sixteens. BU was

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a sixth seed, including last year. And that's kind of

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the hope is that this team can catch a little

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bit of fire and get to that second weekend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what does it look like? So if they

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get a sixth seed, right, how confident are you that

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by You can get to a Sweet sixteen? And what

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does the bracketology look like? Would you say? On location

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we know there are four possible Thursday Saturdays, right,

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and then you got to look into the next spot

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to see which regionals are Sunday or whatever. But yeah,

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the four that are Thursday Saturday right now are Buffalo, Greenville,

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Speaker 4: That's how you say it.

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Speaker 3: My dad is from North Carolina, so I'm super legit.

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Oklahoma City and then Portland. And then the two regional

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spots are that are Thursday Saturday are Houston and San Jose.

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And it all depends ben On. If BYU can play

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defense at the level and give an effort and energy

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and rebound like they did Saturday, it's going to be

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hard without that little number next to the name. Like

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when BOAD played the top ten team, they've been up

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for those games, right, And isn't it wild that BYU

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had only played one top ten team in any given

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season when they played them at home, and then they

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played four this year. BYU went two and two in

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those and amazingly without Richie, those are the two they won.

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So coach Ritchie, I can verify is in Kansas City?

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Is it going to be on the bench with by

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which is great news? Is it causation? Is it correlation?

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I think they have a chance to not only win

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two games in this tournament, but next week perhaps win

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two as well. Because what is the point of the

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Big twelve Gauntlet, Ben, is so that in that first

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and second round game, you go, okay, first yet and

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you should win, right if you're six, you're playing eleven,

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might be tricky, who knows, maybe you match up with

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like a Miami of Oira or whatever. But that second

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round game, you go, we've played hand of these kind

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of games in the WCC, you would say we played

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that one non conference game and maybe two or three

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in the regular seasons. BYU should be a weathered, experienced

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team at this point in those kind of matchups, and

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they should give an effort in on defense and rebounding.

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And then they got a shot because in that three

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game losing streak to unranked teams, boy did not play

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hard on defense. They just didn't. Against Texas Tech, they

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were super engaged and it was amazing, like if Rob

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and Canard a AJ that's the tone. Defensively, switching everything,

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moving their feet, hit in the glass, hadeen, bloop energy,

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all that. Boy can do something. Man, they can They

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can get to the Sweet sixteen. We'll see on the

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matchups and all that coming up on Slection Sunday. But

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I feel like if Euyu just it sounds weird, tries harder,

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they got a chance to do something.

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Speaker 1: If they just try harder, is there a visible like

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I mean, you're right, you know what I mean? Like no,

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But I'm like, I'm watching it from home. Ronnie covers

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the games, right, you know for ESPN the fan, you're

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your court side, you're watching. Do you do you see

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a visual difference in effort in these games in which

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b YU is playing like, you know, a top ten team,

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and there's like maybebe the backs against the wall and

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and the players are really efforting a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: I literally do against Iowa State in Tech with Tech

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Day tried harder than they did against UCF Cincinnati and

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West Virginia. And it's not about what happens in the

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game in terms of made shots or not. Ben On Saturday,

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d YU allowed twelve for nineteen from the three point line,

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yet they stayed engaged, They did not give up Canard

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Speaker 4: What did he do?

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Speaker 3: He's still staying games on the defensive end. He hit

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the offensive glass for two easy putbacks, and then and

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then second half, how did he how did he shoot

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four or five in his final five three point shots?

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He stayed engaged. He has to be in double figures

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for VUA to have a chance to compete at a

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high level. And he's got to be that third guy

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because you know, Aj and Rober are gonna get it done.

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Aj was not super efficient on Saturday, but he was.

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He was rebounding, and he was finding his teammates, and

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he was scoring when needed and so on so forth.

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Rob Right's the third is a Texas Tech demon. They

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don't have a guy that can guard him right now.

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Certain teams have not But that was good to see too.

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But it's more important on the defensive end, Rob to

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be engaged because that's the key for this team. Is

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Like to me, defense is in basketball is less skill

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than offense, Like you got to make a shot. That

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takes skills. It's rebounding and defense our effort, like just

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try hard and b aways. Again I've said a million times,

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but just be engaged on that end.

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Speaker 1: Be engaged. Be engaged in a good cause, which is

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winning basketball games right now, playing great defense, getting rebounds,

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getting a second chance shots, and hopefully getting a bucket

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or two on the offensive. Van Jerem Jordan talking to

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some BYU basketball here on your Utah. ESPN ready a network.

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What what Thursday Saturday situation is best for by you?

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Would you say from a home court advantage and BYU

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fans showing up, showing out. Gone to Denver.

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Speaker 4: Last year, Yeah, that was sweet.

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Speaker 3: There were a ton of BI fans there and BOI dominated.

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fans literally travel. We say BUA fans travel, but we

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know they've mostly just live there and fans do travel

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pin on a map, and like all those homies show up,

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which is great. Portland seems like the obvious choice there.

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and like there's some great BUI fans in the Northwest

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that would really show up. My only fear there is

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what if gone Zaga is a three seed and Boi

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matched up in the second round against them in the

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a sudden, it's like, is this or Leans Arena again?

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enticed by that because I could say hi to the

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in laws who live in Wilsonville, you know, and the

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whole thing. It'd be great. But like selfishly, I kind

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of want to go to like Greenville or Buffalo, just

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like to see somewhere else. But UI did in twenty

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ten go to Oklahoma City, and that's the gym or

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for that junior year. That's Michael Lloyd junior off the bench.

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That's you know, they beat Florida, you know, and overtime,

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and then the next game they lost to Kansas State.

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Oklahoma City. But it doesn't matter all that much because

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if I guess, if you feel like you need some

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energy from the crowd, then Portland is the most obvious

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choice there. If you don't, then yeah, you go somewhere else.

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But what you don't want is you're the sixth Miami

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will House. The eleven and you're in Buffalo because then

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all those Red Hawk fans are showing up, so it

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could be interesting, but ultimately you just got to go

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and win. It's like people that have been to the

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NCAA tournament. It's a more sort of uh gale environment

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than people like want to admit it like a little

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super exciting, but there are four teams in there, so

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kind of who's whose, other fans are rooting for who.

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It's a weird vibe, the weirdest game mode that I've

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ever been to. Ben's Remember when Jimmer played in his

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hometown of Glens Falls, New York against Vermont to senior

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ear yep. I went to that game. The people only

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cheered in the gym for Jimmer, nobody for Vermont, nobody

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for Yu except for when Jimmer scored. There was no

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like in house toun of music. There were no cheerleaders,

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no mascots. It's like the weirdest game I've been for this,

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but it was really cool for Jimmer.

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they're playing in front of their home crowd. It seems,

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at least recently, they have been without Richie Saunders. So

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if you can create a home court environment, great, If not,

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they got to find a way to win. My thought

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is this, I want to get your your eval on this.

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AJ versus Tech didn't have his best game. In fact,

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it was kind of an average to maybe above average game.

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doesn't Rob Wright and AJ have to play their best

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ball in March in order to get there?

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Speaker 3: I mean in Seria, yes, but on that day you

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just have to be better than that team. What's the

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sort of level that team is competing at. Maybe they

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shoot poorly too. You just have to scrap your weight

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to whatever that day requires, because every game is different,

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right If yeah, if Robin and AJ play their best,

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in the country, like all but like six or seven.

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super important to me. They Yeah, if one of them

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is super off, it's going to be hard, but you

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have to have Canard Davis playing defense, hitting some threes.

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meet Kava Cata and that injured hand to like be

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able to get enough rebounds. Which, by the way, Kiva

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was fantastic against Kansas State and the two games he's

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played the less complete as I expect him to have

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a big game today. For BOI to go far, it

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does depend on kind of the matchup. But the good

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news is we have two reference points BOI playing tremendous

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teams like two and three seed types in Iowa State

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and Texas Tech where BOI won. Those were in provo.

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But if you don't have a big home court advantage

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for either team, BOI was six and one in neutral games.

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Then they had more neutral site wins than any other

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team in the country in non conference play. This team

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has been through it. Granted it's been a minute. What

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is that yield here in Kansas City? What is that yield?

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In the NCAA tournament. The hope is you avoid a

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upset in the first round. Right, I think Boa is

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going enough to get through the first round. It's this

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team will be defined by whether they win that second

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round game or not. If they don't, we'll go, hey,

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injuries off too bad with aj he's going to be

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the number one pick. Still a lot of positivity. But

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if they do win a second round game and gives

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them Sweet sixteen, you go, hey, that was the minimum

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threshold for how much talent was on this team and

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how much was fed on the team. And so that's

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my hope that next week BUA can kind of validate

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that it's not a massive failure if they don't because

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they've had too many injuries, but if they can get

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through that second round and get to the fourth Sweet

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sixteen ever do it in back to back years with

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Kevin hung Now we're talking because Buy's future is in

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the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, speaking of a j to Bontson,

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do you feel like he got robbed? Did he should

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he have been the Big twelve Player of.

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Speaker 3: The Year Jerem Heck, yes, he absolutely got robbed. I'm

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fired up about this man. I think that he should

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have been the player of the year. It's not the

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leadership award, it's not the the best player on the

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best team, which I'm not even sure. Jaden Bradley is.

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I think Brayden, Burrays and Coed Pete are like as good.

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Arizona and Houston have so much talent and they're good

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and their balanced. I'm not saying Jayden Bradley is not

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a great player, because he is. But AJJ. Box is

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clearly the best player in the league. I don't understand

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why this happens. Sean Farnham was on roy Sport station

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to day and he brought up a great point which

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I agree with and I have discovered through some conversation

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that was likely the case, which is Jaden Bradley probably

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won because JT. Toffen and AJJ Box have probably got

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neutralized in the votes. I bet you it came down

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to one vote and Jaden got one more among the

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sixteen coaches, and you can't vote for your own guy, right,

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and so that sways things or whatever. So yeah, I

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do think aj got robbed. Does this really matter in

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the hierarchy of whatever? No, not even within like the

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season it would have been cool. I think we all

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get that he's the best player in the league. Though

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he's going to be a first team All American. Jane

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Bradley was not even and Sean brought this up a

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great point. Jamee Bradley was not even a unanimous first

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team selection. What does that tell you again, Jane Bradley,

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great player, Jake Toppin amazing player. Ad was the best

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player in the league though, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it, no doubt about it. And hopefully he

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confirms that in the Big twelfth Tournament and hopefully confirms

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that into March madness. For you, what is quota this season?

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Taking into account five season ending injuries, the three iterations

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of this BYU basketball team, the trials, the tribulations, the undulations,

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the Jekkoelin hiding of Brigham this season? What is quota

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this year? And what would be overachieving this year for

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this BOA men's basketball team in the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of split between they have to win

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a second round game and no, you know, if they

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bout the after the first into the second, then maybe

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with all the injuries, that's tough to say. Hey, you

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got to beat a three seed if you're a six

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seed aka top kind of twelve through fifteen teams. Yet,

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we've seen some lows, we've seen some real highs coming

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off the high against text of sex so hope this

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boy can get to a Sweet sixt team. I think

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if they do, we go they did it, they probably

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over atch you by a little bit given where the

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roster's at right now. But it's also just tough because

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you have literally the best player that's ever worn a

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BA uniform, like AKG. Bompson is going to be the

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number one pick in the draft. We can discuss another

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day whether this season for him was better than Jimmers,

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because I think that is an interesting conversation, Jimmer senior

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year or Danny senior year. Danny defined the year by

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beating Utah top ten team in the final regular season

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game and then going to the Elite eight. One of

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those things just happened for AJ. By the way, senior

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Knight's top ten win for him, it was freshman night.

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He ain't coming back. That's by what he's saying. Come on,

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so how is you? Are you going to be defined

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not what they do in Kansas City this week, by

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what they do next week in one of those four cities.

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you bring up an interesting debate here.

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We discussed it as well. Today. You buying are selling

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the rhetoric that AJ is seriously considering coming back to

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b Yu. He's now said it or three times. He

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does it with a smirk. He does it with maybe

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a chuckle each time. But you buying, are selling?

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Speaker 3: That selling? There's no way he's coming back, dude. There's

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like I've talked to as and he's saying the same thing.

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It's like, stop, there's no way he's coming back to me.

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I don't care what he tells McKay coppins. I don't

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care what he tells Spencer Linton. He ain't coming back, man,

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There's no way. Who would that, right? Mind is like,

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I'm cool with a third of the pay with anything.

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That's what it'd be, right, Like, he can make you know,

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three or four mil, and next year he'd make thirteen

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or fourteen miil, Like what are we talking about here? Also,

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he's grown up wanting to plan in the NBA, he

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didn't say I want to stay in college two years.

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He can't even say it without a smile or a tuffle,

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Like you said, he can't even finish.

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Speaker 1: But Jeremy, he said he loved his Book of Mormon class,

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and he loves his teacher, and his mom wants him

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to get his degree.

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Speaker 3: The degree can still happen for Yegor and AJ if

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to want so, no, he gonna he gon' But what

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a year it was for a j And let's uh,

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let's finish, let's finish strong hair and listen, here's the thing.

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If it doesn't go well here at the end, whatever

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that means to you, it was still worth everything that

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it costs for the donors and from YU, because this

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dude is gonna rep BUYU in the NBA and he's

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gonna be the highest drafted player ever from BYU unless

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he goes too then he Tyshan Bradley, Right, But what

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he's repped really well, and he's carried himself in a

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way that his parents have raised him really well, and

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the boy should be proud of.

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Speaker 1: To him, no doubt about it. And do you think

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did Jazz get them? Do you think the Jazz somehow,

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some way fortuitously get you know, a little tank Lake

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City and get the number one overall.

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Speaker 3: Pick and they take a j Isn't there the stat

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that the Jazz have never had their pick improved from

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where it was like it? And you think the NBA

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and all the conspiracy theories about you know, the lottery

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and whatnot, you think after the fine that the Jazz

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is somehow going to get a top two pick.

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Speaker 4: I do not.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping, you know, I would love to have aj

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on the Jazz. Trust me, I work like fifteen twenty

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games a year. There's some tough nights in there.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: If they don't and they kind of fall, you need

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to take best player available. But if they fall the

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four or five, then, which is likely where they're going

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to be again, give me a cuff junior, Give me

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Kingston Plumbings one of those two. Now we make our

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move with Walker Kessler, Jaron Jackson, Lay Laurie Markinen, de'ante

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George and then TBD top five draft pick. That's a

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fun roster that I think could be somewhere in the

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seven eight nine seed range. You're in the plays for

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the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Now we're going which fact of the day uh ticks

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off BYU slash Jazz fans. More? Is it the fact

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that they've never improved their lottery slot ever, or is

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it that they've gone to more ZAA tournaments and not

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seeing a final four than any other team in college

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basketball history.

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Speaker 3: Well, given the tanky nature of what's going on, promptly

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the Jets, But I do hate the I do hate well,

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I don't hate it. Like what I love about it

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is well that means BI makes attorney a lot. Yeah,

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but yes, have they had that? Like team No? I

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want Boa to have some magical run in the attorney

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that it feels like random teams get every year that

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someone stumbles into the Elite eight as a ten seat away,

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It's like, why kid by us? Then can b A

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do that? They have a daj bonter this year? Can

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we just alection coastch goes for five threes and Canard

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goes for four and a J and Rob do the

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thing and Kate like and Boom b aways in the

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Sweet sixteen with one game to an Elite eight. Now

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they've equaled the best run ever and you're one game away, Like,

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can we do that? Because we talked about Final four

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and when Gostren Baker was healthy and Richie was healthy,

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BOI was a top ten team. I'd like to remind

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people that they had a nice jump on the season

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starting number eight. But yeah, unfortunately injury injuries happened and

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BOI was even struggling with Richie, Like it's not like

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having Richie Boy was perfect but they have discovered something,

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hopefully here at the end that they can capture and

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hopefully that they packed packed with him from provo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll never know how Nate pickens, what role he

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would have played as well on this squad.

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Speaker 3: Right, give rob just a few minutes to rest the

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bench a little bit, like Brody Koslowski has a stretch

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forward and like and and by the way, with Senior Knight,

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we learned that basically it's not a done deal, but

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that Dawson and Nate intend to come back because they

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were not honored on Senior name. We have implied that

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Nate would be from the beginning of the year, but

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we didn't know on Dawson for sure. He wasn't honored

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on Senior night. And I dapped up Dawson today earlier

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in the hotel and it was loud. So they're a

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good vibes with Dawson Baker like earth earth shattering dapths.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the decibels were just off the freaking chart.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You've you've been there, like

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you connectually, like, oh my gosh, did we just like

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break glass somewhere? What's happened?

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Speaker 5: Jerem has the best DAPs been. He'd he gets everybody,

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but that probably was. We have it every single time.

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Speaker 1: Jerem.

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Speaker 5: Just see that I'm jumping in. Jerem needs to continue

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to help the other, and I have to help brand

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to see Gurney because it can't be forced. It's just casual,

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you know, like growing up on the growing up there

473
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in Seattle. JJ knows, he knows.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, it's just Goodbbes.

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Speaker 4: You know.

476
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Speaker 3: Right now, next time I see it, Ben, we'll do it.

477
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Speaker 4: We'll do it.

478
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Speaker 1: Let's go, baby.

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Speaker 3: I want it in his like entryway. We'll like dap

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up and till it's super loud and it takes like

481
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max three.

482
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Speaker 1: I want more of like a like top gun you know,

483
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traditional o g you know Maverick Goose, like high five

484
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,039
up top around the windmill. You know what I mean,

485
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That's what I want.

486
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Speaker 4: I just did it.

487
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Speaker 3: I just did it thinking about it.

488
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Speaker 1: Yes, I did it too.

489
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Speaker 3: Do we have to lose the shirts if we do that,

490
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because like your.

491
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Speaker 1: Damn straight, we do.

492
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Speaker 4: We may.

493
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take them off and then do the Windmio

494
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baby high five around the wind meo baby around the clock.

495
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Let's go, Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, Oh man, Jerem,

496
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,839
let's go, let's get a win. Let's go. Uh cougarnation,

497
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,079
How can they support you? What you do, how you

498
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,680
do it? Jerem.

499
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,759
Speaker 3: First off, if you listen closely tonight, you'll hear Kansas

500
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Day Break one of the huddles can coon on three.

501
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240
Uh because they're going to be done though after tonight.

502
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:16,319
But yeah continues to uh. Hey, listen to this program.

503
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Watch listen to boy Sports Station. We got covered from

504
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Kansas City all week, so keep pumps the good work. Boys,

505
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love it.

506
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, we'll go

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to break, don't go anywhere, and we're to get to

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Speaker 1: We'll start to stay off in the pool.

520
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Speaker 6: As YU divers, marty Off and Ashton Sparks competed in

521
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the three meter event at the NCAA Zoni Championship in Flagstaff, Arizona.

522
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Yat made it to the final round and play seventeenth overall.

523
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The women's set of Things Brooklyn Gekorates competed in the

524
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one meeter event, placing eighteen day. The women will compete

525
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in the three meter event, with the men competing in

526
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platform diving in sunny San Diego, California, and BYU men's

527
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,960
golf finished yesterday tied for fifth with keihe Keena in

528
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,519
third place overall. Simon Quan has two strokes behind a

529
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Keenette four hunder part in seventh place. The final round

530
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,680
began this morning at nine am. Today, the men's basketball

531
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team faces Kansas State in the first round of the

532
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,200
Big twelve tournament in Kansas City, with the winner facing

533
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,759
West Virginia tomorrow. The game tips off at five o'clock

534
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:38,079
on the ESPN Plus. Sticking with the men's team, the

535
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Big Twelve Awards were announced yesterday and A. J. D.

536
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Bonsa took home Freshman of the Year, a spot on

537
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,359
the All Freshman Team, and a spot on the All

538
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Big Twelve First Team, to where the Cougar were featured

539
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:48,599
as Richie Saunders was named to the second team and

540
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Rob right the third to the third team. He Bonce

541
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is the first Cougar since Jonathan Tabernari in the two

542
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,000
thousand and six two thousand and seven season. The win

543
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Freshman of the Year and his spot on the All

544
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Big Twelve First Team marks two years in a row

545
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with BYU having Amber on the first team. Other games

546
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400
today will feature a home game for the BYA baseball

547
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,640
team against Utah Tech at three o'clock because they look

548
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,559
to get back into the win column after having lost

549
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:10,240
their last four, and softball has their home opener tonight

550
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:12,240
against Abilene Christian at six o'clock.

551
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Speaker 1: We finished with news from the pros we're in the NFL.

552
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Speaker 6: Former BYU running back Tyler Algiers signed a two year

553
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deal with the Arizona Cardinals for twelve and a half

554
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million dollars in defensive tackle Kirostanga joined Kingsley Suamataiya and

555
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Andy Reid on the Kansas City Chiefs on a three

556
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year deal worth twenty one million dollars. And in the NBA,

557
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Yegor Joeman has been.

558
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Speaker 3: Shut down for the year with increased plantar.

559
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Speaker 6: Faciatis in his left foot. Yegor finishes his NBA rookie

560
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,759
season averaging ten point three points a game and shooting

561
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,480
thirty eight point five percent from three. I'm Cameron Clark

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and this has been your ESPN The Fan Cougar Sports

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the hotline and welcome in the voice of the Kansas

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State Wildcazz. We got Wyatt Thompson on the line. Wyatt,

598
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
how are you living well?

599
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Speaker 4: I'm doing okay, Ben, how are you? I got a

600
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little bit of a uh there's a little bit of

601
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,400
a sore throat kind of chess colds going around the team.

602
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,000
I've got just a tiny bit of it, So bear

603
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,759
with me on this. But uh uh. Here we are

604
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,839
in Kansas City and getting ready for I think what'll

605
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be an interesting tournament this year, without question.

606
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Well, sorry you're under the weather.

607
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:40,480
We appreciate you making the sacrifice. What you know, being

608
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,920
a voice right, Like, what what are your typical protocols?

609
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,680
I mean people just think like we just step up

610
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680
the mic. We never have a cold, we never get sick.

611
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,799
When you know, there's never any issues with anything, and

612
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
we can just do it every day, all day and

613
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680
pontificate without any sort of inhibition in our vocal cords.

614
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,200
Like what's your protocol when you do feel a little

615
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,640
you know, correct the virus, a little flu bug hitting you.

616
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Speaker 4: You know, I don't have a whole lot then. To

617
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,319
be honest, I've known guys that have, you know, like

618
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lost their voice almost entirely. Not on wood. I've never

619
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,119
had that happen. I don't know about you, but I've

620
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,680
never had that happen. I'm just a little raspy. The

621
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:21,400
truth is, I feel okay. I just don't sound perfect

622
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:25,160
or like I normally do. But Coach Driscolls like that,

623
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,799
a couple of our players, a couple of other coaches.

624
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,839
It's just kind of some of the stuff that's going

625
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,559
around this part of the country right now. So hopefully

626
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:33,519
the Cougars will get that.

627
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,759
Speaker 1: So, you know, you don't do any like cough drops.

628
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,680
No like lemon honey tea, Kama mule chai tea, you know,

629
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cold do.

630
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Speaker 4: The tama meal so much, but the hot tea, A

631
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little bit of lemon every now and again. Lemon water

632
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is probably pretty good. But that's a rarity for me

633
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,000
because it's knock on wood. I'm not you know, under

634
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,920
the weather very often. I've been pretty lucky.

635
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got like alien spray, I got salt gargling,

636
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,599
I got call I have I mean, I gotta you know,

637
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,599
I have a pro no. No, Now, I think I'm

638
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,319
just more impacted by by cold and flu season than

639
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,519
than most on the radio. So I got I gotta,

640
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:17,839
I gotta have like all my profile axes. I taken

641
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,240
zinc every night now because you know, there's uh, there's

642
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,240
been all manner of bugs going around. So uh but

643
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,400
let's uh, let's get into what we are really having

644
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,920
you on for here, the Big Twelve basketball Termam I

645
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,279
give us a state of the basketball program with Kansas State.

646
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,119
There's been turmoil. There's been ups and downs. Right. Uh,

647
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,000
it seemed like a couple of years ago the Kansas

648
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,720
State Wildcats, they had this upward trajectory and all was

649
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:46,799
well out there in Manhattan as it relates to this

650
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,759
basketball program. Now, uh, there's been some turmoil. Give us

651
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:50,880
the state of the program. What's going on?

652
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,519
Speaker 4: Well, turmoil is probably a good word to use to

653
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960
quantify what this has been. Four years ago in coach Town,

654
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first year, it was magical. They went to the Elite eight,

655
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,839
had a really really good team lost to FAU in

656
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the regional final in Madison Square Garden led by Marquise

657
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Noel who had one of the great tournaments in the

658
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:19,359
history of the NCAA tournament. Keante Johnson was a fringe

659
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,880
pro on that team. They really played well. The next year,

660
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they lost a young man by the name of Makwon

661
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Tomlin got into some trouble off the floor. He was

662
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,079
removed from the team somewhat in a controversial move, and

663
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,839
I don't know, if I'm being honest, if they ever

664
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recovered from that, I think that would have been a

665
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tournament team, but it wasn't. And then it's kind of

666
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,920
been the continued downhill slide over the last two years.

667
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,000
You know, this year was a three and fifteen conference season,

668
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:55,039
at twelve and nineteen campaign overall that really exposed Case

669
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State a lot of areas. What I would tell you

670
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is they struggle defense of late, they struggle with rebounding.

671
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,799
They don't have a lot of front court depth, and

672
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,359
when you are bringing that to the table in this league,

673
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you're going to get your backside kicked a lot. And

674
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they have one hundred percent.

675
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's crazy. I didn't think that there'd be

676
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,279
so much turmoil this season there within this basketball program,

677
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that the there was an upward trajectory where what's the

678
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,519
current like maybe outlook from the personnel standpoint look like,

679
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:36,920
have they been able to retain some of the maybe

680
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the culture cohesion that could get them a win or

681
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640
two in the Big twelve tournament this go around.

682
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Speaker 4: You know, that's a really good question. I'm not sure

683
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,960
how to go about answering that because they've been so inconsistent.

684
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,240
I'll give you what I would describe as the perfect example.

685
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,359
You know, you know this, you follow this league pretty closely,

686
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,559
right Well, one team that's been really, really pretty darn

687
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,480
good of late as TCU. We kind of got them

688
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:07,039
off the deck a few weeks ago in Fort Worth.

689
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,840
Led for thirty nine minutes and thirty seconds. They never

690
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,800
led until the very end, and scored the final seven

691
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,639
points of the game. My point is is Case State

692
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,880
has done a really good job of finding ways to

693
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,920
not win games. They lost a close game, and they

694
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,800
truthfully have probably been better in conference play on the

695
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,119
road than they've been at home. But think about this,

696
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they've at home, they've played Kansas BYU. You know a

697
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,599
few teams like that. On the road, it's been more

698
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,800
of the Arizona States, the Oklahoma States, that kind of thing.

699
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,079
We played the Iowa State at home as an example.

700
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:48,800
So it's the Big twelve, right, It's hard. We've also,

701
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,719
I want to be totally fair and honest with your listeners.

702
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,280
This is a team that has lost some I've kind

703
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,000
of lost the exact track, but probably somewhere in the

704
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,719
neighborhood of fifty eight or fifty seven games because of injuries.

705
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,280
With this club, they have played most of the conference

706
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,239
season without Abdy Vasher, who was a sharpshooter for them

707
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,800
from three during the times that he was available. Forty

708
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,599
four from three is pretty good, right, and they missed

709
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,280
that badly. And again, they're not big enough, They're not

710
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,679
deep enough, and that's that's been problematic. They are good

711
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,119
enough with their guards on a day where they shoot

712
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,480
the ball well, if they do some other things well,

713
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,000
where they can give you a game, but getting over

714
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,480
the hump has been the biggest part of that. I mean,

715
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,280
they scored eighty five and Lawrence, but they gave up

716
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,719
one hundred and four. So you kind of get the idea.

717
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,199
And I'm I probably sound like Debbie Downer and I

718
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,920
don't mean to be that way, but I also have

719
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,679
to be honest. And when this season started I'm not

720
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,639
gonna kid you. I really felt like they had enough

721
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,400
to maybe be middle of the pack, maybe be in

722
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,039
the conversation for an NCAA tournament team. And they haven't been.

723
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,480
They haven't been in the hemisphere of that, not even close.

724
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, who are some of the key players, Like,

725
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,840
if Kansas City is going to be competitive in this

726
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,360
gampers at BYU, who are those players that are going

727
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,400
to stand up and show out in the bright lights

728
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,960
of the Big twelve tournament.

729
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think three guys are guys that I probably

730
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,800
should and need to mention. Probably PJ Haggerty would be

731
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,320
the lead guy. He was aimous. Think about this a minute.

732
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,360
He was a unanimous second team All American last year

733
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,519
at Memphis. He was an honorable mentioned Big twelve pick

734
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:41,760
this year and was second in the leading league in

735
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,039
scoring behind some guy named AJ Debonta who's averaging almost

736
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:49,079
twenty six a game in Big twelve play. But for

737
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,039
PJ it's about twenty four and a half. So he's

738
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,519
been a good score right. The other two guys Amarii

739
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:59,639
McGriff who is undersized at you know, six eight six

740
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,840
nine in two thirty left handed athletic but really struggles

741
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,480
with foul trouble. But the last couple of games he's

742
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,800
been eighteen seven and two and seventeen seven and two

743
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,760
because he hasn't been in foul trouble at home against

744
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,079
West Virginia and at KU. And then the real wildcard

745
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,199
for me is Nate Johnson. When Nate plays well, case

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719
stages in games and they give themselves a chance. When

747
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,559
he doesn't, it's really, really, really difficult for them to

748
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:30,679
win games. And he's the kind of guy that he could.

749
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,000
He could be a fifteen point seven rebounds, seven assists

750
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,159
for steel guy. That's pretty good. Now he doesn't do

751
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,039
that all the time, but I mean he's twelve and

752
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:44,800
a half points, five rebounds, four and a half assists,

753
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,599
and leads to the conference in steels. So when he

754
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,880
plays well, he's pretty good.

755
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Give me a little scout report on BYU from your perspective.

756
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719
What is it that they do well? What challenges do

757
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,920
they pose? And look, they've had their ups and down

758
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,000
this season. I mean there's a tenth team in the

759
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:04,719
Big twelve. Like sometimes they play like a top ten team.

760
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,079
Sometimes they played like maybe a top fifty team.

761
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,519
Speaker 4: You know, it's more than fair. Yeah, that's more than fair. Ben.

762
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:15,320
I think what I would say is, I'm just being honest.

763
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,440
Losing Richie was really hard. He's such a real chap

764
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,280
piece for them. That's, you know, very experienced. I mean,

765
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,039
how many guys, mean, be honest with yourself, how many

766
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,920
guys that you can you name that are eighteen points,

767
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,559
nearly six rebounds, two assist blue guy, make big shots,

768
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,639
not afraid to be your top rebounder defender night once

769
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,880
in a while. And this is on the team that

770
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,840
has Devonsa and Robert Wright and others, so they miss

771
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,599
him a lot. Now what do they pose in terms

772
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,000
of issues for Kansas State. Well, the one guy that

773
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,679
I always say really really hurts Case State is because

774
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,599
of the size and strength is Kapa Keda. When you

775
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,280
think that to the game in Manhattan, hit eleven points,

776
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:06,280
sixteen rebounds, and I think a couple of blocks if

777
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,320
memory serves me right. Visiting with coach Driscoll this morning,

778
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:12,440
that's that's one of the things he said. They've got

779
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,320
this and this and this and this, but the one

780
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,360
guy that always seems to get us is Caterkata. And

781
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:23,039
that's a fact. I like what they do offensively. I

782
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:27,119
think if if they if they defend, and you know

783
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,280
they I looked. I watched the uh I watched part

784
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,519
of the Texas Tech game the other night live and

785
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,880
then rewatched it the next morning, and if I'm not mistaken,

786
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,159
they were down thirteen in the first half and came

787
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,800
back and won the game. I just wonder how they

788
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,920
will build off of that. That's that's a big time

789
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,480
get in my mind. So I think they're dangerous. Would

790
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,159
it be better for them long term if they had Richie? Yeah,

791
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,000
but they don't. Unfortunately. That's you know, we've seen that

792
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,280
with him, We've seen that with Topping. That's that's tough

793
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,920
this time of year.

794
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,519
Speaker 1: The Big twelve awards were dropped yesterday. Any thoughts on

795
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:08,679
any debate on who should have would have could have received?

796
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,639
Maybe Player of the Year. We were debating a little

797
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,480
bit whether or not A J. Debonca deserved the Player

798
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:15,920
of the Year award. Give me your take on the matter.

799
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't tell you that. I think in a lot

800
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,039
of years he would have been the Player of the Year,

801
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,320
just just based on numbers alone and what he did consistently. Right,

802
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,320
I think that's the thing you want to look at that.

803
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,840
The interesting part for me with with Bradley winning the

804
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,639
award is I think Arizona was clearly the best team

805
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,559
in the league consistently start to finish. I think you'd

806
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:44,320
agree with that. But who's the who's the main guy

807
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719
with them? And maybe that's why they're so good because

808
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:50,519
one night it's Crebas, one night is Pilipe, one night

809
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,079
as Bradley, one night it was del Orso, I mean,

810
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,760
Tobey Iwaka. I mean, you just keep going with those guys, right,

811
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,639
And I wonder sometimes the way these guys maybe they

812
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,760
canceled each other out. So I really like Bradley, and

813
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,599
you went at the highest level with a good big

814
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:10,719
man and a good point guard. Everybody knows that, right,

815
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,079
So I don't necessarily disagree with Bradley, But I'm just

816
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,639
trying to state that in a lot of years, Debonsa

817
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,519
would have been the winner. In my opinion, as far

818
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:22,199
as the rest of them, I didn't have a real

819
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,840
big issue with it. And this is kind of nitpicking

820
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:32,039
a little. And I don't understand how that freshman guard

821
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,639
at Colorado, Isaiah Johnson, wasn't at least honorable mention. He

822
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,519
really was good when we saw him. I think he

823
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,719
finished with a flourish. But then you get to looking

824
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,840
who you're going to take off to put him on there,

825
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:48,599
I didn't think it would have hurt to put him

826
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,639
on just as an honorable mentioned guy. But that's again,

827
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,679
that's probably nitpicking. Did you have a real big problem

828
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,400
with any of them? You could argue all day on

829
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,840
the Coach of the Year. But I if it were me,

830
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,199
I would love to This is just my opinion. I

831
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,000
would have loved to have seen the voting because I

832
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,760
wonder how many votes Johnny Dowkins would have gotten.

833
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most people want to see the votes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

834
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,000
I think most people want to see the votes. Yeah,

835
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,719
I think that if you you know, in this era,

836
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:24,639
I think everybody wants to know the why. Everybody wants

837
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,360
that accountability. And I think the awards are supposed to

838
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,679
be from a public relations standpoint, from an internal big

839
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,719
twelfth amilial standpoint, They're not supposed to be controversial, right,

840
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,599
They're supposed to be really positive. They want to give

841
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:41,599
awards to everybody. Everybody gets an award, everybody gets a trophy,

842
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,840
everyone gets the medal. That's what it looks like to me,

843
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,960
and I think for the most part, save the you know,

844
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,199
Thomas the the Colraade reguard. Like, I think you're right,

845
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,519
he probably should have gotten nod on the honorable mention.

846
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,000
But if he didn't get a vote for whatever reason,

847
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:57,639
that's on the voters.

848
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably more than fair. I'm

849
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:04,800
you know, I'm sitting here looking at this now. I

850
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,039
went ahead and called it up, and I mean that

851
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,679
that first team, it shows you the strength of the league.

852
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,519
But show me another league that has Ritchie Baba Miller,

853
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:20,159
Taman Lipsey, ma'm chilovich and Darren Peterson on the second team. Yeah,

854
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,440
I would. I would say that would stand up against anybody.

855
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,039
And then you continue to go down and like folks

856
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:32,400
at UCF, I thought he had a fantastic year, Xavier

857
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,719
Edmonds at TCU. Same. I love Coleopete from the night

858
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,800
he had thirty first night out. You know, So the

859
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
league is, the league is really really good.

860
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: How many NCAA tournament bits does the Big twelve get

861
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,199
this year?

862
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: Well, I think they. I think they're pretty much locked

863
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,599
in for eight. Now. I don't see how you can

864
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,360
keep UCF and TCU out. Now, right, I just don't

865
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,840
see that. To me, it all comes down to, you know,

866
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,199
big Steelers and can and or can Cincinnati play their

867
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,360
way in this week? You agree with that?

868
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:14,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how often the conference tournaments,

869
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,880
even in the kind of the power structure of basketball,

870
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,480
determine seeding. Right now, I feel like they kind of

871
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:25,599
like they they kind of they toss it aside to

872
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,280
a degree. So I think the idea of playing playing

873
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360
into the tournament in the in your conference tournament outside

874
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,239
of the championship game, it seems to me to be folly.

875
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,199
I don't know, I could be wrong. Does that make sense? Like,

876
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,199
I just I'm not there yet. I'm not there.

877
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I would not disagree with that in any way.

878
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,679
And I think generally speaking, and again I'll repeat it

879
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
that way, generally speaking, I think you're on the money.

880
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:58,480
But if you have if you have a team like Cincinnati, yeah.

881
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,639
Speaker 1: And that's truck that's trending in like so, yeah, they.

882
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: Didn't have Jizzle James for the longest period of time

883
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,960
to start the year, that's a relatively legitimate piece.

884
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Not only that, the marketability of that name in CF

885
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,800
Gizzled James. You know what. I mean it really, it

886
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,360
really rains true. I like it.

887
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you can say that too. You know,

888
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:27,679
some some people were I think, just being dumb about it.

889
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,320
We're questioning about by you being in. I'm going wait, wait, wait,

890
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:34,039
go look at their resume.

891
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: Man.

892
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,519
Speaker 4: And you know what, if I'm a if I'm a

893
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,239
major college basketball fan and I'm watching the tournament, don't

894
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,119
we want to see a J. Debosa in the tournament. Yes,

895
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,320
and for that matter, b YU in the tournament. But

896
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:51,559
but sometimes it gets a little bit And I'm not

897
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:55,719
picking on anybody, but come on, Bruce Pearl, really.

898
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,599
Speaker 1: I will say this. If I will say that, I'll

899
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,679
counter it. If this was the college football Playoff Committee,

900
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:07,480
for sure, b YU would be outside of the NCAA tournament.

901
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,880
They just find a way to leave BYU out and

902
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:13,679
not get them into the big boys club. I don't

903
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,360
know why that is. Let me tell you, I don't.

904
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,119
Speaker 4: I don't want to speak for this past year because

905
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:20,559
I think it was tighter. But two years ago they

906
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:25,840
got jobbed. Yeah, period, end of story. I mean they

907
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,119
beat that's a new head to head at their place.

908
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,159
That's to me. That really fired me up. Man, and

909
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,400
I fight for the Big twelve. I've been doing this

910
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,719
in this league for twenty four years, and newcomer team

911
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,119
or not. Man, I'm all for them and they deserve

912
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,639
to be in. I'll never I'll fight that till the

913
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,159
end of time.

914
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: You know this, Well, this is what I'll say about it,

915
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:54,280
because I think Kansas State it's legacy, it's history, be

916
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,440
it on the grid iron of the hardwood, is gritty,

917
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:01,079
blue collar, and I don't know if they always received

918
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,880
the benefit of the doubt, you know, especially, I mean,

919
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,559
look like, obviously the Snyder era is akin to an

920
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:12,079
adjacent to and parallel to in many ways the Lavelle

921
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:16,079
era Edward Lovell Edwards Eric excuse me, yeah, And so

922
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:19,880
like you know, I think there's some some similarities here,

923
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,199
kind of arm in arm and how the two programs

924
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,320
are built and were built and maybe having to overachieve

925
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:33,760
always because of whatever reason, right, you know, Kansas State

926
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,880
in many ways, and I look at like what Indiana

927
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,880
and Signetti are doing right now, and I think Snyder

928
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:47,000
in many ways built up Kansas State in kind of

929
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,159
the same way that Signetti is right now. And now

930
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,280
it's it's it's somewhat different because Signetti just want a

931
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,800
national championship. But I mean Kansas State was put on

932
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,480
the map because of Snyder. That being said, I'll kind

933
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,320
of end with new money. Old money doesn't like new money,

934
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,400
the new kids on the block in the college football

935
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:12,599
cabal that we're living in the cartel, right, This is

936
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,559
me being a conspiracy there. It's hard to break through there.

937
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It's hard to get equity in that brand stake, is

938
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what I'm getting at. They don't like that new money,

939
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they don't like the new kid on the block.

940
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Speaker 4: Well, I'll just add this, and I know you're probably

941
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running out of time, but I'm one guy you could

942
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be talking to today that experienced Lavelle Edwards and Bill Snyder.

943
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Snyder more up close and personal than Leavell. But I

944
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was at Colorado State for a lot of years thirteen,

945
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I believe, and there is nobody from an offensive mind

946
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standpoint that I would necessarily put you up against him

947
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on most days. Yeah, you could argue Bill Snyder. Yeah,

948
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you could probably argue Tom Osborne and maybe a couple

949
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of two or three others. But we're talking elite, elite,

950
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and sometimes I think he gets left out, and I

951
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:07,679
think that's sad that dude was insanely good and put

952
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BYU athletics on the map. And as far as I'm

953
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concerned and Snyder, most people that don't follow it all

954
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,440
that closely have no idea how bad case they was

955
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when Bill Snyder showed up. They just don't know. And

956
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believe me, they were bad.

957
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right the way would you say that? They were

958
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kind of in lockstep, kind of side by side with

959
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who Indiana has been, you know, over the years, like historically,

960
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and then Snyder came in and completely changed the trajectory

961
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of the program.

962
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Speaker 4: They went to one Bowl for Snyder showed up in

963
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their history and you know how they did it. Yeah,

964
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they did it with a bunch of guys that they

965
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red shirted for a year and then brought him back

966
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his red shirt seniors and they played in the Independence

967
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Bowl ben in Shreveport. So Snyder comes along. Snyder comes

968
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along and goes to eleven straight and wins two Big

969
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,880
twelve championships. A little different animal.

970
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Speaker 1: It took them five years to get to a Bowl

971
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game though, That's what's so crazy. I mean they went

972
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seven to four, you know, and in a modern era, yeah,

973
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they would have been I mean but yeah, so when

974
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I when I look at it like that, I really

975
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do see I see a lot of similarities to Indiana

976
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and Kansas State in the pre Snyder era. Well, hopefully,

977
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hopefully it's a great game, ton I, you know, turning

978
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you know our gaze, casting our games towards the b

979
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YU Kansas State matchup. Two fantastic programs, one that has

980
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been relink with turmoil in b YU a little bit

981
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of a jackal and hide team this year. B YU

982
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,239
a favorite in this game. I think eleven and a

983
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,039
half point favorite, and ESPN Analytics gives b y u

984
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and eighty three point nine percent chance of victory. But

985
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hopefully it's a competitive one five pm tip off, I

986
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believe on ESPN Plus. Well, we appreciate you joining us,

987
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thanks for getting letting us get to know the phone,

988
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Wyatt Thompson. Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you. Why we'll

989
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catch up with the en soon you got it.

990
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Speaker 4: But always great talking to you, my friend, Thank you,

991
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my pleasure.

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