Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio home.
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Speaker 2: in the world three and sixty five days a year,
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven before I start Tonight, I was
Speaker 2: remissed last night. I was at a lovely dinner on
Speaker 2: Saturday night in Boston and I was asked to do
Speaker 2: a shout out to one of my most loyal listeners,
Speaker 2: and I somehow had misplaced the card that I have. So,
Speaker 2: with apologies to all, including I want to send a
Speaker 2: shout out to a loyal Nightside listener, Kathleen Stoker. Kathleen
Speaker 2: is from Arlington, Massachusetts, actually from originally Kinsale and County Cork.
Speaker 2: I've been in Kinsale in County Cork. I know it well.
Speaker 2: We might be related Kathleen. And Kathleen is a longtime
Speaker 2: Nightside listener and she's going to have a very special
Speaker 2: birthday next December first, and we'll celebrate it at that time.
Speaker 2: But I'm told she's hitting one of those big marks
Speaker 2: when you have a zero on the end of the number.
Speaker 2: Not going to tell you what the first number is,
Speaker 2: but Kathleen, thank you so much for being so loyal
Speaker 2: Tonight's side. I'm sorry that I missed the shout out
Speaker 2: last night, and I decided to do it tonight right
Speaker 2: at the top of the show. And I hope, I
Speaker 2: hope you heard it, and I hope some of your
Speaker 2: friends have heard it as well. Kathleen Stoker, Arlington, Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: originally from Kinsale County, Cork. Now let's get to the
Speaker 2: matters at hand. We're going to start off tonight talking
Speaker 2: with Alex Quanton. Alex is the managing editor of the
Speaker 2: Autos Team and US News and World Report. That sounds
Speaker 2: like a fun job, Alex Quanton, how are you tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm good. Thanks for having me Dan, And yeah, it
Speaker 3: is a fun job.
Speaker 2: I'll bet it is. So you have just come out
Speaker 2: or not you? The US World and News Report has
Speaker 2: come out with their twoenty twenty five list of best
Speaker 2: cars for Families. What makes a car best for families?
Speaker 2: I would I know that most families are not buying
Speaker 2: you know, little coop convert convertibles or something like them,
Speaker 2: or say these two seat convertibles. But give us a
Speaker 2: quick description of what qualifies as a family car. What
Speaker 2: are some of the uh, the indicators that are family
Speaker 2: for I think car I think most of us know,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to hear you tell us.
Speaker 3: Sure, so families really prioritize room above all else, because
Speaker 3: you want to be able to haul all that stuff
Speaker 3: with you and all your kids with you. But they
Speaker 3: also prioritize convenience, the availability of features. You know, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of new features now like team driver controls
Speaker 3: and adaptive cruise control and reverse automatic breaking. And they
Speaker 3: also want to get, you know, a good deal with
Speaker 3: something that has good feel, economy and has good safety scores.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of families are looking for
Speaker 3: a combination of all those qualities. So what we do
Speaker 3: to calculate these awards is we analyze one hundred different
Speaker 3: vehicles from nine different classes UH and we cross reference
Speaker 3: sort of our overall all the reviews of the vehicle,
Speaker 3: which are done from data, and we also get into
Speaker 3: vehicles ourselves, but most of our rankings and reviews are
Speaker 3: done are data driven, and then we cross reference those
Speaker 3: reviews with a deep dive on passenger space, on cargo volume,
Speaker 3: the availability of the features I was just talking about,
Speaker 3: and then we score all that data. We actually have
Speaker 3: two data people who help us with this. They do
Speaker 3: a lot of hard work on it, and then the
Speaker 3: vehicles with the highest scores in each class are the winners.
Speaker 2: So now is it one hundred cars in each class
Speaker 2: or one hundred cars total?
Speaker 3: One hundred cars total. You know, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: marginal models that families aren't going to considered, and as
Speaker 3: you said, they're not going to be buying in Mercedes
Speaker 3: as sell. But we try to identify the things that
Speaker 3: we think are the most likely classes families have want,
Speaker 3: like three ro ow SUVs, mid sized cars, minivans, the usual.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think you have a bunch of categories
Speaker 2: and let's just take them in order, because there may
Speaker 2: be people out there who are listening tonight and will
Speaker 2: be mightily influenced by by what your recommendations are. Let's
Speaker 2: let's just take them a note. Let's talk about the
Speaker 2: best compact suv for family. So compact suv, that's the
Speaker 2: word compact. That's not a big family here, right, but
Speaker 2: it's a family.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's not a big family, but it
Speaker 3: is a big vehicle on the inside. You know, the
Speaker 3: compact suv is kind of replaced the midsize sedan for
Speaker 3: a lot of people if you don't need more than
Speaker 3: two rows of seats. Although a couple of compact SUVs
Speaker 3: actually do offer a pine tiney third row if you
Speaker 3: really need it. But the one that we've chosen as
Speaker 3: our winner, and it's been a winner four years in
Speaker 3: a row, is a Hyundai Tucson. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: the big thing that stands out is just how ringy
Speaker 3: and convenient it is. So the back seat. You know,
Speaker 3: we're always looking to load kids and with child seats,
Speaker 3: and you know, to get them in and out quickly,
Speaker 3: and to put people back there and sometimes elderly relatives
Speaker 3: back there too. The back seat of the Tucson has
Speaker 3: forty one point three inches of leg room, which is
Speaker 3: about eight tenths of an inch short of a Chevy Tahoe,
Speaker 3: which is a big, you know, big a honk and
Speaker 3: full size suv. So there's a lot of room, and
Speaker 3: that has an equally large amount of cargo space.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go to the best two row mid
Speaker 2: size suv for failing, and that one is the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five Mastax seventy. That's a pretty good sized car.
Speaker 3: It is. It's one of the bigger sort of mid
Speaker 3: sized SUVs. And you know, the CX seventy is a
Speaker 3: totally new entry in a class where you know, automakers
Speaker 3: haven't really been prioritizing large two row SUVs that tend
Speaker 3: to want to fit three rows in them, but you know,
Speaker 3: not everybody actually needs that third row. If you don't
Speaker 3: want it, the CX seventies huge advantages or that it
Speaker 3: offers all the style and features and a great driving
Speaker 3: experience of Mansa's other SUVs to c X ninety but
Speaker 3: with a huge, huge cargo area. I mean, you could
Speaker 3: conceivably take a family of four on the trip from
Speaker 3: LA to Chicago without feeling cramped and having enough room
Speaker 3: for your luggage without trailers, without you probably without even
Speaker 3: roof rack.
Speaker 2: So if you get a few, if you on a
Speaker 2: larger family and you need three rows, you're suggesting for
Speaker 2: mid size suv for families. Twenty twenty five Kia Tell
Speaker 2: You Ride. Someone else told me about the Kia Tell
Speaker 2: You Ride. They say it's a great vehicle.
Speaker 3: You know, the Tell You Ride is just a juggernaut.
Speaker 3: It is the sixth year in a row that we
Speaker 3: have named the Taill You Ride the best three row
Speaker 3: midsize SUVs for families, and you know, it's just really
Speaker 3: really talented and lots of areas it's got a big
Speaker 3: second row, just like the Tucson I mentioned, but it's
Speaker 3: also got a pretty reasonably roomy third road. There's more
Speaker 3: than thirty inches of the leg room. It's pretty easy
Speaker 3: to get in and out of, and it has lots
Speaker 3: and lots of features. You know, Kia has become a
Speaker 3: little bit more of an upmarket brand, but they still
Speaker 3: know all about you know, packing the cars full of
Speaker 3: like good technology. They have a great entertainment system that's
Speaker 3: very easy to use. They have lots of you know,
Speaker 3: the car has Wi Fi and all the family sort
Speaker 3: of centric safety features that we were talking about before.
Speaker 3: It's just talented in a lot of areas. I do
Speaker 3: want to say, while we're on the topic of three
Speaker 3: row SUVs, you know, are our winner for the best
Speaker 3: electric sub is also a Kia, and that's the key
Speaker 3: at EV nine. The EV nine, you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a totally I hate to talk over you.
Speaker 2: If you have a question, go ahead, no no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no, I said, I yeah, I see that here.
Speaker 2: We can't get to all of them, but give me
Speaker 2: a quick comment on the q EV nine because at
Speaker 2: least we want to get one electric suv for families
Speaker 2: in here sure.
Speaker 3: So the EV nine offers just as much room as
Speaker 3: the Telly Ride, but in a package where you have
Speaker 3: far lower energy use. Now it isn't necessarily affordable for everybody.
Speaker 3: It starts at over fifty five thousand dollars, but it's
Speaker 3: the first really like approachable three to row electric suv
Speaker 3: on the market. All the other ones cost more than
Speaker 3: seventy five eighty thousand dollars, so this is a lot
Speaker 3: more accessible for many families. And one of the nice
Speaker 3: things about this is you get all the convenience of
Speaker 3: a vehicle like to tell you ride, but you know,
Speaker 3: you don't have to spend those twenty five minutes going
Speaker 3: to the gas station between soccer practice or after school
Speaker 3: or you know after violin practice, you just go home.
Speaker 3: You can charge it at home, you plug it in.
Speaker 3: You saved that like twenty five minutes every few days
Speaker 3: of having to sew up the car. And it's a
Speaker 3: pretty good performer. You know, it drives really well, charges
Speaker 3: really fast out.
Speaker 2: In the wild.
Speaker 3: If you gotta charge it on a fast charger, it's
Speaker 3: really quite quick. And it also comes with just tons
Speaker 3: and tons of features. So the Kia has really put
Speaker 3: up a good one to two punch with the three rows.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, look, there are a lot of other
Speaker 2: cars that not only the winners, but you also have
Speaker 2: a lot of rundown on information on the cars that
Speaker 2: finish in the top ten and a lot of these categories.
Speaker 2: It is the US News and World Report. They do
Speaker 2: this every year. They've perfected how to do it, and
Speaker 2: I just I'm going to be looking at it very
Speaker 2: closely because I'm going to be getting in the market
Speaker 2: pretty soon. And I just want to thank Alex Quanton,
Speaker 2: managing editor of the Autos teams at US News and
Speaker 2: World Report, and your your font of information. My friend,
Speaker 2: you got it all in. You got a lot more
Speaker 2: in than I thought we'll get in. Thanks you, Alex.
Speaker 2: Great job.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 3: Listeners can check it out at cars dot usnews dot com.
Speaker 2: Thanks perfect. I should have I should have thought about that.
Speaker 2: Give that one more time cars dot US.
Speaker 3: Cars dot US news dot com.
Speaker 2: Couldn't be easier. Thanks very much, Alex. You did get
Speaker 2: it all in. All right, we get back to talk
Speaker 2: about a scholarship program. If you have a son and daughter,
Speaker 2: a niece or a nephew, or someone who is thinking
Speaker 2: about becoming an automotive technician. You want to listen up.
Speaker 2: My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. We are here
Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday night from eight till midnight. We
Speaker 2: being myself and Rob Brooks, and we will be back
Speaker 2: to you on the other side of this break on Nightside,
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray, my from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Sank Studios on WBZ NewsRadio.
Speaker 2: Well, this is an interesting story. Apparently experts are predicting
Speaker 2: a shortage of auto technicians by twenty twenty eight. We're
Speaker 2: not talking about twenty thirty eight. We're talking about four
Speaker 2: years from now, three years from now, actually, a shortage
Speaker 2: of four hundred and seventeen thousand auto technicians with us
Speaker 2: as Alex Shelton, he is Ford's Philanthropy's Manager Education for
Speaker 2: the Future of Work. Welcome Alex to Nightside. How are
Speaker 2: you hi, Dan?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on so.
Speaker 2: Ford Dealers and the Ford Fund, the Philanthropy Fund have
Speaker 2: invested two million dollars to help train future auto technicians.
Speaker 2: This this is kind of an amazing offer. Unfortunately, geographically
Speaker 2: it looks like it's somewhat in the Midwest, and in
Speaker 2: the West there are not these programs are not available
Speaker 2: to young people for some reason in New England at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 5: No, it is open to the students in New England.
Speaker 4: This year.
Speaker 2: I looked at it. There was a map that was
Speaker 2: that said that I looked at that said that's good
Speaker 2: to know. Well, so tell us how can my listen
Speaker 2: as we're you know, a national station heard half the country.
Speaker 2: But the Vulcal relationship is in New England. So how
Speaker 2: do folks get lined up for these scholarships if they're
Speaker 2: interested in becoming auto technicians? What do they have to do?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So this is exciting partnership with our four dealers
Speaker 5: in Ford Philanthropy teaming up to provide four million dollars
Speaker 5: in scholarships. That comes out to eight hundred students receiving
Speaker 5: a five thousand dollars scholarship who's looking to pursue a
Speaker 5: degree as an auto technician. We partner with an amazing
Speaker 5: organization called tech Force Foundation. You can go to the
Speaker 5: website techforce dot org slash Forward Philanthropy and on that
Speaker 5: website it's all the information that you need to apply.
Speaker 5: So you have to be enrolled or applying into an
Speaker 5: auto technician training program live in one of the designated areas,
Speaker 5: and there's a list of schools that are eligible and
Speaker 5: you have to fill the fasta need based scholarship.
Speaker 2: I see, Okay, Yeah. I went to a couple of articles.
Speaker 2: One was out of the Ford Media Center. Ford Dealers
Speaker 2: in Ford funded best two million to train future auto techs.
Speaker 2: And then these were two articles out of the Ford
Speaker 2: Media Center, and in both of them they had as
Speaker 2: you scrolled down and read the article, they had some
Speaker 2: maps which led me to believe and I'm mistaken, that
Speaker 2: was my mistake. But the map highlights states in the
Speaker 2: Great Northwest, highlights Arizona, a lot of Midwestern and southern states,
Speaker 2: but nothing new England, New York, Pennsylvania. So it's good
Speaker 2: to know this is a national opportunity that people can
Speaker 2: take advantage of.
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, Wolf, it gets you the updated, updated press release.
Speaker 5: Because year one was a million dollars, year two was
Speaker 5: two million, and this year it's four million dollars in scholarships.
Speaker 2: And so March, yeah, it was March at twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You're right, it's exactly a year old. So that's that
Speaker 2: is great to know. So most of let's do so
Speaker 2: you have to be enrolled. Does that include a high school.
Speaker 5: Yep, So it's those who are enrolled or looking to enrolled.
Speaker 5: It can be enrolling in the future. And so if
Speaker 5: you're saying, you know, I'm a senior in high school
Speaker 5: and I'm interested in becoming an auto technician, you can select
Speaker 5: the school that you plan you plan to apply for.
Speaker 5: This is also for individuals who are looking for new careers.
Speaker 5: We had an individual who was in his mid forties,
Speaker 5: has a family, he was a teacher and is now
Speaker 5: choosing to go back to school to become an auto technician.
Speaker 5: And we had someone this past year who was in
Speaker 5: his sixties who was applying for the scholarship as well.
Speaker 5: And so it really is open to anybody who is
Speaker 5: looking to go back or looking to enroll, or is
Speaker 5: currently enrolled in an auto technician program.
Speaker 2: Okay, so to help me out here, because I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2: I know there are schools to become a broadcaster. I
Speaker 2: understand that I didn't go to school to become a broadcaster,
Speaker 2: but that need it here to there. So the specific
Speaker 2: schools people learn about the post high school that the
Speaker 2: focus is on becoming an auto technician. Is that like
Speaker 2: a year of training or how long does someone have
Speaker 2: to go to one of these schools to become qualified
Speaker 2: to basically become an auto technician.
Speaker 5: Yeah, great question, and it varies kind of program by program.
Speaker 5: The average, I would say, if you're going to a
Speaker 5: local community college, comes out to two years. There are
Speaker 5: other schools that are a certificate based that you can
Speaker 5: get this done in six months, nine months, eighteen months.
Speaker 5: But the average I would say that I've seen is
Speaker 5: two years.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's have that website one more time so
Speaker 2: any of my listeners can get more information or to apply.
Speaker 2: Is are the two websites more information and a second
Speaker 2: one to apply? Or is more information and the one
Speaker 2: to apply the same website.
Speaker 5: It's the same website. All the information is on here
Speaker 5: and then you can click how to. You can click
Speaker 5: the apply button from this link.
Speaker 2: That is tech one more time. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Yeah, it's no worries. It is tech force
Speaker 5: dot org, slash Forward Philanthropy.
Speaker 2: Well that's pretty easy. Tech force dot org slash Ford Philanthropy.
Speaker 2: That's great, Alex, thank you so much. It's it's great
Speaker 2: to know that there are programs that companies like Ford
Speaker 2: are actually helping people again feel what is expected to
Speaker 2: be a huge shortage. So if you're someone who loves cars, uh,
Speaker 2: these are great paying jobs. And if there'll be a
Speaker 2: career for you, and you will, you'll be able to
Speaker 2: afford a family and and and a pretty good lifestyle.
Speaker 2: So thank you so much, Alex. Hopefully we have impacted
Speaker 2: maybe a few people tonight who as a result gonna
Speaker 2: get involved in this program. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on THNKDN.
Speaker 2: Alex Shelton, Ford's Philanthropy, Ford Philanthropies Manager. We'll we get
Speaker 2: back and I talk about a serious issue with doctor
Speaker 2: Ryan Carlson. Coorectal Cancer Awareness Month is this month in
Speaker 2: March critical importance of prevention and early detection in this
Speaker 2: fight against colorectal cancer, and this is something that both
Speaker 2: men and women need to be concerned about. Back with
Speaker 2: doctor Ryan Carlson right after this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w
Speaker 1: Z Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, as you mentioned before the break, March is colo
Speaker 2: Rectal Cancer Awareness Month, something that all of us need
Speaker 2: to be very aware of critical importance of prevention and
Speaker 2: early detection in this fight against colorectal cancer with us
Speaker 2: as doctor Ryan Carlson, colon and rectal surgeon at the
Speaker 2: Cape Cod Healthware. Doctor Carlson, Welcome to Nightside, Sir, how
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 4: I'm very well, Dan, Thanks for having me on your show.
Speaker 2: Right, so you did some work I believe some of
Speaker 2: your residency at Lakey Clinic and now you were working
Speaker 2: down on the Cape at Cape called Healthcare. This is
Speaker 2: something that is a devastating disease, uh, you know, devastating diagnosis.
Speaker 2: I guess what can people do to to to prevent,
Speaker 2: you know, contracting this or is it so much genetically
Speaker 2: based that there's not much people can do? And then
Speaker 2: the other question I guess is what can they do
Speaker 2: to make sure that if they are going to be diagnosed,
Speaker 2: they're diagnosed early. So it's kind of a two part question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a lot you can do. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of an optimistic picture. You know, if we
Speaker 4: catch colon cancer early, like say by screening with colonoscopy
Speaker 4: or one of the genetic stool tests or even a
Speaker 4: stool blood test in the early stages, we care about
Speaker 4: eighty five ninety percent of it. Pretty great. But of
Speaker 4: course in the later stages, when it's spread farther to
Speaker 4: the lungs or to the liver, we care about ten
Speaker 4: percent of it. So early detection is definitely only key.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, that's what I wanted to ask, because
Speaker 2: obviously you see the ads on TV about you can
Speaker 2: send in a sample and all of that. I still
Speaker 2: assume that the gold standard is the colonoscopy every three
Speaker 2: to five years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. And you know colonocopy, if you get
Speaker 4: one at age forty five, we say forty five is
Speaker 4: a new fifty because the colon cancer is starting earlier
Speaker 4: these days. And if you got a clean test and
Speaker 4: no family history, that test is actually good for ten years.
Speaker 4: That's one of the reason why we like it so much.
Speaker 4: I think it probably takes about ten years to go
Speaker 4: from a poll up to a cancer. Now, if you're
Speaker 4: somebody who has polyups on that first screen, yeah, they
Speaker 4: may want you to come back in in three to
Speaker 4: five years, but a lot of people get ten.
Speaker 2: This is it's it's not pleasant. Those of us who
Speaker 2: have had it certainly realized that the prep isnt A
Speaker 2: lot of fun, but it's a great feeling when it's over.
Speaker 2: The procedure itself is very it's not uncomfortable at all,
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people still, you know,
Speaker 2: have that that apprehension if you will, uh how uh
Speaker 2: how effective? How efficient? Are the less invasive you know,
Speaker 2: not not the the screenings you know that involve you know,
Speaker 2: the procedure. Let me put it like trying to pick
Speaker 2: my words carefully here, Yeah, exactly if you want to
Speaker 2: avoid these ones. Yeah, the procedure. And you got the
Speaker 2: stool tests, I guess is the one that I see
Speaker 2: advertisements on television? How efficient or how effective is that?
Speaker 2: Is that one?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That's right. So there are a couple of different stool tests,
Speaker 4: and people frequently don't know which one they're getting. But
Speaker 4: the highest quality one is the DNA stool tests, which
Speaker 4: is it does two things that look for looks for
Speaker 4: microscopic blood in this dual, plus it looks for signature
Speaker 4: cancer DNA in the stool. And that's the most effective,
Speaker 4: and that finds almost as many colon cancers as colonoscopy does.
Speaker 4: Where it falls shorter than colonoscopy is it's not as
Speaker 4: good as detecting the polyps. So that's one thing that's
Speaker 4: nice about colonoscopy. Almost all cancers come from a polyp,
Speaker 4: and you do the scope and you kind of kind
Speaker 4: of mold a lawn. You kind of pluck out those
Speaker 4: polyps along the way, and we think prevent some of
Speaker 4: the cancers, which is great. But you know, in terms
Speaker 4: of detecting the cancers, yeah, the DNA based tool test
Speaker 4: is really quite good. The somewhat lesser one is the
Speaker 4: test that only looks for microscopic blood in the stool,
Speaker 4: and that one's not nearly as sensitive for cancer because
Speaker 4: not all cancers bleed. Some of them just aren't bleeding,
Speaker 4: and so that one you have to do every three
Speaker 4: years versus sorry, every one year for just the blood
Speaker 4: test the stool based blood tests, and the DNA one
Speaker 4: is every three years.
Speaker 2: Are you a believer? And I've asked this question of
Speaker 2: other doctors because I know that there are now blood tests.
Speaker 2: I think one of the commercial companies is Gallery or
Speaker 2: gallery however it's pronounced, where they basically take a blood
Speaker 2: sample and they look for that they detect cancer cells.
Speaker 2: I guess you know shavings from cancer cells. You probably
Speaker 2: know and can articulate a lot better than I can.
Speaker 2: But my doctor is a big fan of those tests,
Speaker 2: and my wife and I take one every year, not
Speaker 2: covered by insurance, but they seem to becoming to be
Speaker 2: becoming more popular. Do you know of what I speak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're the variant of what we're talking about that
Speaker 4: we do. We are starting to use some and let's
Speaker 4: say I take out somebody's call and cancer, and we
Speaker 4: want to know if they need chemotherapy or not, or
Speaker 4: they've had chemotherapy, and we want to know if they're
Speaker 4: cure or not. And there are companies now that will
Speaker 4: actually take the cancer that I or one of my
Speaker 4: partners took out and the look for which DNA sequences
Speaker 4: are off that needed a cancer in the first place,
Speaker 4: and they'll look for little snippets of that floating around
Speaker 4: in the patient's blood, and in the best cases, the
Speaker 4: data suggests that, yeah, they can. They can tell who's
Speaker 4: destined to get a recurrence of the cancer and who
Speaker 4: and even who would benefit from chemotherapy and who doesn't
Speaker 4: need chemotherapy because they're already already cured. Were for primetime,
Speaker 4: but it's exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little further down the road. These These
Speaker 2: are blood tests essentially you take in conjunction with the
Speaker 2: annual physical UH. And the theory is that if any
Speaker 2: sort of cancer cells are getting active, they do shed
Speaker 2: some particles and as I understand that and that those
Speaker 2: particles can be detected in the blood test UH and
Speaker 2: they actually can identify what cancer might be percolating in
Speaker 2: your system. So I just I asked that I think
Speaker 2: it becoming more more more popular. What what at what
Speaker 2: age do colo rectal procedures, cancer screening, you know, procedures.
Speaker 2: At what point are people told, okay, you're old enough,
Speaker 2: you don't have anything, and it'll be something else that
Speaker 2: will that you will die of. There was a period
Speaker 2: of time when if you hit seventy they said, well
Speaker 2: you're you're good, and I think they've they've moved that
Speaker 2: back to seventy five or even eighty. Is there is
Speaker 2: there a magic year anymore that that people can say, okay,
Speaker 2: that's my last colo rectal procedure.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Nothing magic, But the way I
Speaker 4: look at it like this, So, like I said, we
Speaker 4: think maybe it takes about ten years from a pole
Speaker 4: up to become a cancer. So I can't use that number.
Speaker 4: If I look at somebody in clinic and you know
Speaker 4: they're eighty five, but they're doing ballroom dancing and they
Speaker 4: can run up from flight of stairs when they're hearing laundry,
Speaker 4: and that person don't want to be screened. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm going to have a hard time saying no to
Speaker 4: that person. But to somebody who's seventy and you know
Speaker 4: they're on home oxygen and you just don't think they
Speaker 4: have another five or ten years in them, then maybe
Speaker 4: you could hold off on that person, okay.
Speaker 2: So it varies from varies from individual to individual, okay.
Speaker 2: And how difficult is it to detect the polyps? In
Speaker 2: other words, if someone if a doctor says to you, yep,
Speaker 2: you clean, didn't find any polyps? Are they tough to spot?
Speaker 2: Or you know, when the doctor says you're you're okay,
Speaker 2: you you can take that to the bank. In other words,
Speaker 2: my question.
Speaker 4: Is, you know, the last numbers I've seen is that
Speaker 4: we find about like ninety seven or ninety eight percent
Speaker 4: of the polyps, and so which ones are we going
Speaker 4: to miss? You know, if there was a bad prep
Speaker 4: and so that stuff is covering up five percent of
Speaker 4: the wall, the colon there we could miss that, or
Speaker 4: the flat the ones that are so subtle and you
Speaker 4: really need, you know, the new high death lenses that
Speaker 4: we have to even even catch them in the best
Speaker 4: of cases. Those are probably a few percent that we miss.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the bottom line is parting. The pun is
Speaker 2: get get screened, Get screened as early as forty five, uh,
Speaker 2: and follow through one at year after year after year
Speaker 2: and again I can I can tell you that the
Speaker 2: prep is no fun. I think anyone will tell you that,
Speaker 2: But the procedure has never been a problem. They either
Speaker 2: knock you out or you go into a little bit
Speaker 2: of a daze and you wake up, you know, forty
Speaker 2: five or so minutes later, and they're giving you some
Speaker 2: lemon juice or orange eight or something like that in cookies,
Speaker 2: and you know that it's over. So yeah, absolutely, when
Speaker 2: they say you did great, that's what's most important to
Speaker 2: Ron Carlson. Thanks for your time. It's a sensitive subject
Speaker 2: that we've talked about, but I think you handled it
Speaker 2: really well for us, and I thank you for doing that. Well.
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure. Thanks for highlighting it today.
Speaker 2: Dan, You're more than welcome, all right. When we get
Speaker 2: back We're going to talk about one more serious issue,
Speaker 2: and that is fentanyl laced drugs. If you have children
Speaker 2: or grandchildren who are about to head off to spring
Speaker 2: break where they party hardy, you want to listen to
Speaker 2: this next interview, and you may want to suggest to
Speaker 2: them that they go to a night side and demand
Speaker 2: sometime tomorrow morning and listen to the interview as well.
Speaker 2: I think it will be self evidence when you're self
Speaker 2: evident when you listen to the interview. We're coming right
Speaker 2: back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, spring break is upon us, and of course spring
Speaker 2: break for different colleges and different college students occurs in
Speaker 2: different weeks. It's funny when you look the entire month
Speaker 2: of March. They're telling stories about the bring breakers and
Speaker 2: all of that. Well, most kids get like a week
Speaker 2: somewhere and if they go to Florida or wherever the Caribbean. Uh,
Speaker 2: and is like particularly if they're juniors or seniors, maybe
Speaker 2: sophomore a friend, it's party time, uh and their god
Speaker 2: can be down. So with me is doctor Abide Nazaire.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He is an advisor and addiction psychiatrist, Chief Medical Office
Speaker 2: officer at Hope Mark Health, doctor Nazir, thank you for
Speaker 2: joining us tonight. How are you?
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: I'm doing wonderful. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay. You are with a group called Defend D E
Speaker 2: F E N T Okay, which we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about in a little a little later. It's a it's
Speaker 2: a detection device for fentanyl. I think the best protection
Speaker 2: against fentanyl is don't mess with anything anything other than
Speaker 2: you know, beer or alcohol out of a bottle. But
Speaker 2: for the dangers are federal. Let's let's put it on
Speaker 2: the line here. This this is nothing more than a
Speaker 2: killer drug.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, it's it is one of the most deadliest
Speaker 6: drugs that are out there. And not only out there,
Speaker 6: it's you know, growing, growing amount is out there and
Speaker 6: you don't need a lot for it to be dangerous.
Speaker 6: So this over the last you know, last ten to
Speaker 6: fifteen years, have been rising in fatalities from fentanyl specifically.
Speaker 6: So it's an extremely dangerous drug that can really show
Speaker 6: up in a lot of different ways, whether it's intentionally
Speaker 6: using it or even unintentionally.
Speaker 2: Let's deal let's deal with the intentionally first. Why would
Speaker 2: anyone in their right mind with all the publicity that
Speaker 2: we've we've heard about fentanyl, Why would anyone in their
Speaker 2: right mind, And maybe it's because they're not their right
Speaker 2: mind voluntarily digest a pill that they believe has fentyl
Speaker 2: involved it in it. Are there some people who think
Speaker 2: they can take this drug and they have this great
Speaker 2: high and they can survive.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So when you when you really talk about the
Speaker 6: concept of intentional use, meaning somebody really that is what
Speaker 6: their attention is to use fentinil the most one of
Speaker 6: the most common I guess stories behind that. A lot
Speaker 6: of times it starts when somebody uses a different opioid drug.
Speaker 6: Fentanyl is an opioid. It's a synthetic opioid, so it's
Speaker 6: manufactured in a lab and and it is you know,
Speaker 6: oftentimes cut into heroin and many other different types of drugs.
Speaker 6: It can get cut into. It's cheaper to make, and
Speaker 6: it increases the high. So for somebody who is selling
Speaker 6: less drugs, it actually will cause somebody to get addicted
Speaker 6: faster and enjoy the high more. But what happens is
Speaker 6: people sometimes it could be a pain condition. They were
Speaker 6: prescribed opioids just for pain, control. And with time, as
Speaker 6: you develop tolerance to opioids, and then you're not you
Speaker 6: don't get the same effects, so you don't get the
Speaker 6: same pain relief. And then somebody, let's say, loses access
Speaker 6: to their prescribed opioid, and now then they need to
Speaker 6: find it in other means. And once you try finding
Speaker 6: opioids in another in another way, whether even whether it's
Speaker 6: like heroin or then or heroin lace with fentanyl. Once
Speaker 6: somebody has a physical, physiological, and psychological addiction to opioids,
Speaker 6: Fentanyl is one of the strongest opioids out there, somebody's
Speaker 6: tolerance level goes higher and higher. They're looking for something
Speaker 6: stronger to get that effect.
Speaker 2: Wow wow. Okay, So let's talk about the college student,
Speaker 2: a teenager eighteen ninety years old, first time away from home,
Speaker 2: and there were at a party and someone says, hey,
Speaker 2: I got this really cool dog. You want one of these? Uh?
Speaker 2: You know kids had a couple of beers and says, oh,
Speaker 2: why not? You know, I'm not in high school anymore.
Speaker 2: Is that the way that that plays out with a
Speaker 2: lot of these kids?
Speaker 6: Sadly, yes, it definitely can play out that way, you know,
Speaker 6: in general, and you know, a younger population. Let's say
Speaker 6: spring break time, there's a heavy party happening. There are
Speaker 6: a lot of different drugs that are in higher prevalence
Speaker 6: in a situation like that when you're in a party,
Speaker 6: especially you know, in college.
Speaker 4: Then once they're at this party, it could be that, hey,
Speaker 4: here's some you know, a different pills.
Speaker 6: They think maybe they're taking m D M A. But
Speaker 6: the m D M A or ecstasy is laced with
Speaker 6: fentinel or maybe it was you know, cocaine, and cocaine
Speaker 6: oftentimes gets cut with fent toil. So a lot of
Speaker 6: times it's just unintentional there. When you start with alcohol,
Speaker 6: you're disinhibited more. You're just more likely to make that
Speaker 6: bad decision to try something else. And maybe they don't
Speaker 6: understand the dangers of fentanyl or the fentanyls in that
Speaker 6: product we see. I mean, there's been so many overdose
Speaker 6: deaths over this last especially over this last ten twenty
Speaker 6: years at just rising rates. So it's really it's really
Speaker 6: it's a sad situation. But the key is just knowledge
Speaker 6: for somebody to know that fentanyl could be in this drug.
Speaker 6: Somebody knew who's drinking let's say alcohol in their spring break.
Speaker 6: They're having fun and parting. It may not be that
Speaker 6: they go straight from that to say I need to
Speaker 6: find fentinyl. It's usually like there's usually kind of steps
Speaker 6: in between. Many times, like that's not their ability to.
Speaker 2: That is what you're saying.
Speaker 6: I think exactly. That's a great way to put it.
Speaker 2: Doctor is here again. You have you represent a company
Speaker 2: called Defend de f E n T. You're an advisor
Speaker 2: and addiction psychotherapist. Uh, and there's a this company, Defend
Speaker 2: has a fentanyl detection device. Tell us about that, and
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds horrible that you have to have
Speaker 2: such a product. But tell us about that product and
Speaker 2: how people can get it, and is it possible that
Speaker 2: they can give it, you know, save to their kids
Speaker 2: when they go off on spring break. Hey, take this
Speaker 2: with you. Is it easy to use? Tell us about
Speaker 2: it if you can? Sure?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm yes, I'm an advisor for this company, Defend.
Speaker 6: I you know, I'm an addiction psychiatrist and I have
Speaker 6: my own practices. Hope mark out. Then we we treat
Speaker 6: addiction right. So, And I've worked in many different settings
Speaker 6: for treating substance use disorders. And when you know, when
Speaker 6: I found out about Defend and what their product is about,
Speaker 6: you know, it really drew me to want to be
Speaker 6: in in this company because this we always think of,
Speaker 6: like all right, hey, what do we do with somebody overdoses?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: Hey, then there's no lock zone. You can give a
Speaker 6: you know, injection of noxon or but that is after
Speaker 6: the overdose, right, and you need somebody there that knows
Speaker 6: how to use the lozone. The loxzone needs to be available,
Speaker 6: it needs to be ready to go right at that point,
Speaker 6: because this is this is a matter of minutes. Somebody
Speaker 6: can die when somebody overdoses on something. So Defend is
Speaker 6: coming at it. Even it's a harm harm reduction approach
Speaker 6: is primary prevention, meaning like okay, let's not even get
Speaker 6: to the point of the overdose. So to Defend one
Speaker 6: device basically, it's it's like an it's an all in
Speaker 6: one fentanyl detection device. It's really the world's first and only,
Speaker 6: like patent pending, it's a portable the detection device that,
Speaker 6: like the whole purpose is designed to make testing substances
Speaker 6: very quick and easy.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm getting tied on time. Is is this available
Speaker 2: commercially or is it simply patent pending.
Speaker 6: No, So it is available now and it's accurate. It
Speaker 6: is very well supported in terms of their accuracy with studies.
Speaker 6: But it's Amazon dot com. You can go to defend
Speaker 6: f E n T dot com and purchase it directly
Speaker 6: from there.
Speaker 2: Okay. And is this something that is you know, small
Speaker 2: that someone can put in their pocket or in their
Speaker 2: purse and have with them. How how large is this product?
Speaker 6: Not large at all? It's yes, it can fit in
Speaker 6: your pocket or in your purse. It has everything you
Speaker 6: need altogether. The pre measured scoop has everything you need.
Speaker 6: Just to test it and within two three minutes you
Speaker 6: can get your inaccurate result is sent to the present
Speaker 6: or not in whatever substance you're set testing perfect.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's on Amazon at defend f E n
Speaker 2: T dot com. Doctor Nasir, thank you very much for
Speaker 2: what you do and the lives that I'm sure you
Speaker 2: have saved doing it like this.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it, appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. We'll talk again, I hope someday. We
Speaker 2: are going to take a quick break here for the
Speaker 2: nine o'clock news and we get back We're going to
Speaker 2: delve into the politics of Washington. It's been an interesting
Speaker 2: week between DC and Wall Street and tariffs and Ukraine,
Speaker 2: and we're going to sort it all out on the
Speaker 2: other side of the break