WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.320 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:05.719 KFI AM six. 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:12.359 Forty KIM six mo Kelly here, as we continue to 4 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:15.320 follow the live events of what's happening downtown and in 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.519 Santa Ana, and for what it's worth, we always try 6 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:21.559 to put context in this as far as how people 7 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:26.280 are characterizing what's going on, what we see, what it 8 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:30.640 looks like. It may lead to just this is anecdotal, 9 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:35.000 but KTLA has left its coverage of what's going on 10 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:40.240 downtown and in Santa Ana. K CAL has stayed with it. 11 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:44.320 So nothing is happening at this moment. There is a 12 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.880 police line still in downtown LA at this moment, it 13 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.399 is not advancing. There has been no new information about 14 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.520 any type of order to disperse. There definitely hasn't been 15 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:58.159 any information about a curfew. And I would assume at 16 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.920 this point, and I think it's a reasonablest pump that 17 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.240 if we haven't received anything at this point, it's going 18 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:08.079 to have to escalate considerably for there to be a curfew, 19 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.840 because why we're we're looking at it. You know, it's 20 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.319 tit after eight already, after a point, it almost like me, 21 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:16.920 what's the point, because we'll be in the middle of 22 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:19.640 the night after a certain point that hasn't happened. 23 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.200 There doesn't seem to be any escalation. 24 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.560 In fact, I can't find any television coverage correct me 25 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.640 if I'm wrong, Twela television coverage of anything going on 26 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:30.120 in Santa Anna at this point. 27 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:35.719 No, I don't really see anything happening anywhere, just protests. 28 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:40.879 People are out there, peaceful and police presence for now. 29 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:45.040 Yeah, we can tell you what's happening now. We can't 30 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.599 tell you what it will look like in forty five minutes. 31 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:49.799 I mean, when forty five minutes rolls around and we 32 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:51.319 get there, we can tell you what it looks like, 33 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:54.560 but we can't tell you what it might be, what 34 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.760 might happen. But at this moment, there is no escalation, 35 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:00.879 and I think that's what all. 36 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.599 Of us are hoping for, or at least what I'm 37 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:03.200 hoping for. 38 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.040 Again, I try to remind people, and I was going 39 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.560 back and forth with people on my social media and 40 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:11.879 if you go to my Facebook page at mister bo 41 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.360 Kelly or at Lady with mo Kelly, I was giving 42 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:15.280 you my thoughts about this. 43 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:16.960 I have no dog in this fight. 44 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:19.960 I have not talked about this in the sense of 45 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.240 any narrative. 46 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.240 I try to give you some history. I try to 47 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:24.360 give you some context. 48 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:28.680 I try to compare it to other events which are similar, 49 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:34.439 other events which have been not characterized as a riot, 50 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.199 even though the same things have been happening. Oh, I'll 51 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:41.520 give you a perfect example. After the super Bowl in February, 52 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:48.960 there were six people who were arrested for assaults on 53 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:54.719 police officers. There were at least fifty people arrested in totality. 54 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:59.000 There was looting, there were cars set on fire, there 55 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.159 was a big bonfire in the street. There were two 56 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:06.919 people shot. That's after the super Bowl. It was deemed 57 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:12.319 a celebration violence for violence. It's not unlike what we've 58 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:16.199 seen in LA as of Saturday. No telling what is 59 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:17.879 going to happen in the future, but as of Saturday, 60 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.680 there were comparable events. In fact, there was more which 61 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:24.120 happened in Philadelphia, and that was called a celebration. That's 62 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:26.520 why I think we should be very very careful about 63 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:32.479 how we characterize these events for our personal or political purposes, 64 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:35.319 or how what I call wish casting, what you would 65 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:37.439 like them to be, or how you want them perceived. 66 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.680 And I want to reiterate that it's not. When you 67 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:43.719 try to talk about these things in absolutes, you'll probably 68 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:48.879 be absolutely wrong. There is a level of nuance if 69 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:52.960 we're responsible, that we can apply to this. Anyone who 70 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.960 tries to tell you that this was a holy, peaceful 71 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:00.039 protest is I don't want to say they're lying. Some 72 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.560 people are lying, but it's factually untrue. There are too 73 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:06.400 many incidents and things that we can point to to 74 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:10.759 dispel that myth or characterization. It has not been wholly 75 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.840 peaceful and it hasn't been a riot. Now, there have 76 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.040 been things which people think like because well, if you 77 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:20.079 set a waybo on fire, that's that's a that's a riot. 78 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:21.319 I don't think so. 79 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:24.439 I mean there are it's still under control. What is 80 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:29.720 happening now. Things happened, and you saw what happened to 81 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.680 the WAYMO and you saw like the the scooters that 82 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:36.000 they were throwing off the freeway on the police cars. 83 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:42.199 But again credit to LAPD, credit to La County Sheriff's Department, 84 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:46.480 they kept it all contained, they did, and there was 85 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.959 no real further escalation beyond that. What happens tonight we 86 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:54.319 will see if we can keep that positive momentum going 87 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:59.319 but it hasn't been wholly peaceful. It has not. Have 88 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:03.120 there been at of course, have there been people who 89 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:08.519 have with their own agendas and their own motivations. Absolutely, 90 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.120 but we have to be careful not to be reckless 91 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.079 with our rhetoric. I can't speak for you toal because 92 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:15.279 I don't know what you've been listen to. But I've 93 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.360 been hearing people throw around words like invasion. It's like, no, 94 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.000 it's not an invasion. It's not. It's not some sort 95 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:24.439 of war which is going on. 96 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:25.240 It's not. 97 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.639 There are some really questionable activities going on out there, 98 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.000 and yes, there has been violence against police officers. Not 99 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.000 pushing that aside, but we have to be very careful 100 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:40.439 to keep it in its context and not reach for 101 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:45.879 terminology and reach for imagery because we want to cast 102 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:46.639 it a certain way. 103 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:48.519 Kf I am six forty. 104 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.240 We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app I'm Okelly as 105 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:54.639 we continue our coverage of what's going on downtown, and also, 106 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.199 I guess to a lesser degree in Santa Ana, we 107 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.920 are not seeing the same reports or coverage of that. 108 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.319 But if it should change and direction will have that 109 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:04.519 for you. 110 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.120 You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from 111 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:17.560 KFI AM six forty six. 112 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.920 Mo Kelly here, as we continue our live covers of 113 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:24.079 the ongoing events to protest downtown and in Santa Anna. 114 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.600 There seems to be some movement downtown. It seems the 115 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:33.079 police line is beginning to move forward again. There is 116 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:38.360 vehicle activity where police you know what, Stephan, let's bring 117 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:40.160 up the audio on cake House. We can get some 118 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:41.399 context of what's happening there. 119 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.439 He's been watching protesters go by as well. 120 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.519 Tom hither Suzy. 121 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.600 So we moved actually because we saw all those officers. 122 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.839 There's voter officers zooming up first streets. So we came 123 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:54.720 up to City Hall. That's where we are right now, 124 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.120 right outside of the City Hall, and you can see, uh, 125 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.720 there's a sort of scattered amount of crowd there, people 126 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.160 kind of lingering here, and then there's a very like 127 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:07.639 solid line of police in you know, heavily armed, got 128 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.480 their right gear, their shields, all all kinds of things 129 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.519 there that they're equipped with, and they are standing in 130 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:18.639 stage here right now, and you know, doesn't look like 131 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:22.120 there's that sort of tense, volatile situation that we've seen 132 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.480 playing out in the last few days we you know, 133 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:27.560 we as we've been talking about, this crowd is very 134 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.360 much sort of dispersed, and it's scattered and there's just 135 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.040 remnants in little pockets of people here and there and 136 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.160 kind of just wandering around, I think, people trying to 137 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.600 figure out maybe what to do, where, where to go. 138 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.480 But you know, LAPD their strategy seems to have worked, 139 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.759 which was to kind of break up the crowd, create 140 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:50.319 kind of a situation where there was no real place 141 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.160 to reconstitute a crowd. So by you know, either by 142 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:59.199 closing down streets or by you know, by placing you know, 143 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.959 a high concentration of officers in different spots, and so 144 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.279 it just kind of created this, like I think for 145 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.480 the people who are out here, a bit of chaos 146 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:12.120 and a bit of inability to kind of create some continuity. 147 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:14.439 So now which you have is just a lot of 148 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.480 people just kind of wandering around, looking like, well, what 149 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:20.439 do we do next? It doesn't seem like there is 150 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:24.920 a lot of organization out here. It certainly did not 151 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:27.319 seem that organized earlier either. 152 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:29.360 We just sort of huge. 153 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:32.440 Boom a few blocks away that could have been fireworks 154 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:33.840 or any number of things, but it was a very 155 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:35.399 large boom sound. 156 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.559 Maybe that's in the area where Lori Perez is. 157 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.679 But yeah, so you know, obviously some people are kind 158 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:46.919 of you know, making comments and saying some some insulting 159 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.159 some of the officers here, but for the most part, 160 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:55.200 others sort of standing there looking at them and just yeah, 161 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:59.320 they're The posturing is definitely different than it was. You know, 162 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.679 we we've seen the situation play out where you have 163 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.639 protesters in some cases, you know, trying to antagonize federal 164 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.480 officers or police officers, either verbally or you know, throwing 165 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:14.080 things at them, you know, walking up to them with 166 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.240 their cell phones and you know, saying things to them. 167 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.759 But while that's happening on a smaller scale right now, 168 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.799 it's nothing compared to what we saw, and it doesn't 169 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.159 seem like we're in that sort of hair trigger situation, 170 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.279 you know, where one little thing could happen and then 171 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.879 the whole situation explodes and there's clashes. 172 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.320 It just it seems different. 173 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.240 And obviously, you know, given what we've seen in the 174 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:39.799 last few. 175 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:41.639 Nights, I think, okay, I'm going to jump in there 176 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.720 and if you just only heard a snippet of that, 177 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.559 let me just kind of recap what the reporter was 178 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:52.720 saying for ke Cow, it's dissipating. People are walking away 179 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.000 largely orderly. If you check out our YouTube, you can 180 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.960 see some of the video where police are moving fullar 181 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.480 and it's not like they're encountering as much resistance as 182 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.200 maybe an hour and a half ago. There has not 183 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.399 been an order officially to disperse from what I know. 184 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.879 And this kind of goes back to what LAPD Chief 185 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:17.879 Jim McDonald was talking about, because obviously LAPD has a 186 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.039 plan and it was unclear not only to me as 187 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.759 a layperson, but also was unclear to Chief McDonald as 188 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.759 far as what role the Marines would play when obviously 189 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:32.759 you had the National Guard guarding the Federal building. What 190 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.639 the hundreds of other marines were going to add? Do 191 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:37.399 you have that statement in front of you, by chance, Mark, 192 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:42.840 which one exactly from Jim McDonald. I had it just 193 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:44.559 a second ago. It will give me, well, I'll give 194 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:46.759 you some time, but it's I think it's interesting here. 195 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:47.639 We are all right, go ahead. 196 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.799 LAPD Chief Jim McDonald has issued a statement saying the 197 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.360 possible arrival of federal military forces in La absent clear 198 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.399 coordination presents a significant logistical and operational challenge for those 199 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.200 of US charged with safeguarding the city. 200 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.440 If well, I not even say if. 201 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:08.000 Since more National Guard have been sent now by President 202 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.840 Trump to the area, you got to ask the question, 203 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:17.360 does this help or hinder the management of the protests. 204 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:21.159 Well, we know that the LAPD isn't exactly pro dirty 205 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.799 hippie protesters, and they've been saying all weekend that they 206 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.000 had the situation under control. If you were on top 207 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:29.039 of that stuff. They do not seem thrilled with the 208 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:30.399 extra help. They didn't want it. 209 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:32.440 Well, when I say they were on top of it, 210 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:35.879 I'm characterized if someone doesn't know what he's talking about. 211 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.720 But I guess they know better than Jim McDonald as well. 212 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:42.879 Well, and we're also hearing now that in Washington, legislators 213 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:46.159 are scrambling to deal with how the military would be 214 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.360 deployed because then we're getting into posse comitatis area there. 215 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.000 Well, let's explain that for folks. 216 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:54.440 And basically the law is you cannot use the armed 217 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.799 forces as a law enforcement group. 218 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.000 Yeah, they're a very narrow circumstance. Is that allow that? 219 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.960 But from the way it's being presented, it seems that 220 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.600 the Marines would be in a law enforcement position. 221 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:12.399 Yeah, so we're getting into some dicey territory here, and 222 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:16.600 I want to remind people be really cautious consumers of news, 223 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.360 especially if you're getting it from social media. Click through 224 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.519 to the source, make sure that it's not just influencers 225 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.879 and propagandas. Look for credentialed news professionals that you're getting 226 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.080 your information from, because situations like this, it's rife with 227 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.080 misinformation and you don't want that to color how you 228 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:35.039 look at this situation. 229 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.440 This is when we talk about Oh, I should say, 230 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.759 we do talk about media literacy a lot, but this 231 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.879 is one of those times where it's really really important. 232 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:47.000 And I understand the Customarily, I'm not working in a 233 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.080 news capacity. 234 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.320 I'm on air personality. I'm giving opinion and editorial. 235 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:53.519 I try to keep it more to the facts of 236 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:57.000 information during breaking news like this, because it's very very 237 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:00.919 important not to push people in an unknown necessary direction 238 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.879 about how I feel or my politics. 239 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:05.879 And I keep trying to remind folks I do not 240 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.440 have a dog in this fight. I do not. 241 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.120 I try to give you some history. Let's compare this 242 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:15.600 to twenty twenty. Let's compare this to nineteen ninety two 243 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:19.440 after the Rodney King, Stacy Kuhn Lawrence Powell verdict. But 244 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.519 I'm not trying to tell you or how you know, 245 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.720 what I think about Donald Trump threatening to arrest Gavin Newsom. 246 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.240 That's not the news of the day. That's not what's 247 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.879 really important. That's not going to impact your lives right now. 248 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.519 In other words, is this going to impact you if 249 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.320 there is a greater conflagration, if there is an escalation 250 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.360 that impacts you. You know, so we can talk about 251 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.320 some of the underlying issues. We can do that, but 252 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:47.320 I'm not here to talk about politics. 253 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:48.200 It used to be a. 254 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.039 Mark Rono remembers this, and I know Taala Sharp remembers this. 255 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.919 Before there was cable news, you just had broadcast news 256 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.480 and you'd have the who, what, win, where, why? 257 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:56.679 How? 258 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.320 That was it? That was it? 259 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.240 There was no really no editorial, and if so, there 260 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.679 would be a whole segment what they told you this 261 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.600 is an editorial and made it very clear that the 262 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:10.159 anchor was giving his or her opinion. We have lost 263 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:12.519 that now because we have cable news, which is not 264 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:17.639 governed by any rules. Actually, you don't have the rules 265 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.759 of news reporting on cable news. 266 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:20.639 That's why. 267 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.519 MSNBC is really no different than Comedy Central. And I'm 268 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.279 being serious, because you can have someone deliver quote unquote 269 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.679 their thoughts on the news. Sometimes it could be comedic 270 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.000 like Comedy Central in the Daily Show, or it could 271 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:38.679 be in a news and editorial format like Lawrence o'donald 272 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:43.639 or something. And people don't really understand that distinction because 273 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:48.000 we don't teach media literacy anymore. So to Mark's point, 274 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.600 you have to be very judicious about where you get 275 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.720 the facts, the who, what, where, when, why and how. 276 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.320 Most of the time we don't get that in our 277 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.919 news coverage. We just start with how I feel that 278 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.600 hearing Bass messed this up. That's where people start, and 279 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:09.159 that's not actually news coverage, that's just opinion and editorial. 280 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.720 So what is happening tonight? We're telling you as it's happening. 281 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:15.919 And if you look at the imagery on k CAL 282 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.320 nine right now, I can't quantify it, but I can 283 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:21.120 qualify it. 284 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:22.799 A lot of the people have gone home. 285 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:28.000 There is not this mass demonstration what it looked like 286 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.919 it was going to turn into two hours ago. We're 287 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.960 not there. And kudos to the LAPD for what they've 288 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.159 managed to do. And also you know they obviously had 289 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.279 a plan and they've stuck to it. Now, there were 290 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.720 questions that I had, and there are questions that Michael 291 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.600 Monks had, and will continue to watch this because it 292 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.799 could turn on a dime. If you know history, you 293 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.519 know it could turn on a dime. But it's moving 294 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:55.759 in a direction where it seems to be de escalating, 295 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.000 not escalating. If I am six forty, I'm O Kelly. 296 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.519 We're going to continue to follow this wherever it goes, 297 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.159 wherever it leads. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. 298 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.080 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 299 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.039 KFI AM six forty. 300 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.519 K IF I am sixty Kelly here live everywhere in 301 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.600 the iHeartRadio app. And this is I guess nervous time 302 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:28.960 because the sun is down and most of the what 303 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:32.759 I would call the legitimate protesters are going home. This 304 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.679 is when, unfortunately, we will see the knuckleheads. This is 305 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.320 when we'll see the agitators. This is when we'll see 306 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.600 the folks who have no business being out there other 307 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.320 than to cause trouble. But up until now, it has 308 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.679 been well managed it has been disciplined. As far as 309 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.440 LAPD and its approach, they are slowly moving forward. And 310 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.159 I guess there's still no curfew, there's still no official 311 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.320 order to disperse. And these are just some random thoughts 312 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.799 have just been bumping around my head during the break. 313 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.119 If we take a larger view, we pull out and 314 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.799 look at the macro view of these ICE protests. Now 315 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:14.920 we know that ICE they usually do their arrests in 316 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.680 the early portion of the day. We know that everything 317 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.960 started on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. In the early portion of 318 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.279 the day, ICE they would go to their set locations, 319 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:31.599 their predetermined locations, and they would enact their arrests. They're 320 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.240 not doing it now. In other words, and Twale, you 321 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.640 made a great point. There's nothing to protest now. LAPD 322 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:44.640 is not ICE. LAPD has not been assisting in these 323 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:50.119 arrests on behalf of ICE. So if you're out there 324 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:57.519 now protesting in the dark against nobody in particular related 325 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:02.200 to the actual ICE arres and raids, however you want 326 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.119 to characterize them, then you're obviously not there in good faith. 327 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:07.680 And I know there are a lot of bad faith 328 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.839 actors out there. And look, I try to look at 329 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.400 this through the lens of the constitution. I personally don't 330 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.920 see the value in waving a Mexican flag if you're 331 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.640 trying to protest, I personally don't see it. But constitutionally 332 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.079 I support your right to do it. You know, I 333 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.000 don't think it gains you anything. But at the same time, 334 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.240 as a wave a Mexican flag right now looking on 335 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:36.759 k Cow, yes, that's your right to I'll just say 336 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.720 cloud the issue, to confuse the issue, to make it 337 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.359 seem like you're not here for the right reason. 338 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:45.200 But here's something else we need to consider. 339 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:50.359 This is most definitely what some have called like the 340 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.319 beta testing for what's going to happen in other cities. 341 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:54.960 What is happening right now. 342 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.000 When I say what is happening right now, this is 343 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:01.200 inclusive of the ice raids. You're going to see it 344 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.279 in other cities, other major cities. And this is the 345 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.839 only politics I really mentioned tonight. They will happen in 346 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:12.039 democratically run cities capital d In other words, if there's 347 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:17.440 a democratic mayor, you can expect these particular raids and 348 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:18.960 procedures to be followed. 349 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:21.440 I expect to see this in Miami. 350 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.359 I expect to see this in New York, I expect 351 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.759 to see this in Chicago, and out of that, I 352 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:31.400 expect a similar response. You will see a similar response 353 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:35.559 from the community. And what you're seeing now, you're going 354 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:38.400 to see another spots around the community. And from a 355 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.920 political standpoint, this is nothing bad for President Trump. This 356 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.759 is exactly what he wants. This is exactly what he 357 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.359 is looking for. These are the optics that he would prefer. 358 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:50.640 This is what he ran on. And as far as 359 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.079 what he's going to say about it, you know, these 360 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:55.240 are promises that he made, and these are promises that 361 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.799 he is fulfilling. So he is just fine with these 362 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.359 ice raids. And if there should violence, have more violence breakout, 363 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.720 I'm quite sure he would support that as well, because 364 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:12.079 the optics favor what he has been looking for. You know, 365 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.440 this is something that he ran on, this is something 366 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.119 that he was elected on. 367 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.480 So it's not like there's going to be fewer of these. No, If. 368 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:26.559 Politically it serves his purpose, his purposes here in LA, 369 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:28.920 then that means politically it's going to serve his purposes 370 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:34.519 in Miami, Chicago, New York, and maybe Houston and some 371 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:39.799 other border cities. And I'll say southern states as well, 372 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:42.240 or even the southwest portion of the United States, We're 373 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.000 going to see more of this. I think that's just 374 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:50.279 a reasonable assumption, not necessarily a politicization of what's happening 375 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:54.559 right now. It's hard to look at this without acknowledging 376 00:20:55.279 --> 00:21:00.000 the larger immigration discussion here in America. This is something 377 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:05.240 which has been front and center of our politics, I 378 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:10.000 want to say since maybe two thousand and eight, because 379 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:14.720 Barack Obama did run on immigration reform for his first 380 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:17.839 and second term, didn't get it done, and we know 381 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.599 within private citizen Trump when he came down the escalator 382 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.440 in twenty fifteen, made it a central part of his 383 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.480 would be campaign. So this has been an America's conscience 384 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.799 for at least a good seventeen years. And that's saying 385 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:38.440 nothing of going back to Reagan and the Immigration Amnesty 386 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.839 Act of nineteen eighty six. So this is something that 387 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.119 our nation has been wrestling with for quite some time, 388 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:49.640 and we're coming to one of those inflection points where 389 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:51.680 we're going to have to go through this, and we're 390 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:53.880 going to go through it together, and hopefully we'll go 391 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:58.039 through it non violently, and hopefully we'll go through it 392 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:00.720 and come out on the other side better. But we're 393 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.680 gonna have to get through this right now, right now. 394 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:04.240 It's La. 395 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:07.079 There will be other cities, and we will have this 396 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.759 conversation again with those other cities, and you will probably 397 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:13.359 see the National Guard sent in those other cities. You 398 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:16.759 may see marines sent in in those other cities. Because 399 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:20.240 this will be the playbook going forward. Like it, loath it, 400 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:24.119 if you may not agree with it, but this is 401 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:26.160