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the hotline and welcome in. Pete Mundo college football Insider,

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Big twelve Insider representing a number of things KCMO, Kansas

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college sports as well. What he runs, Pete, How the

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heck are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well, guys, I'm doing really well. Ben.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be back on the show with you

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and never adult moment in this sport these days.

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Speaker 3: Huh, no doubt about it. Your thoughts, your commentary. The

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recap of the college football playoff Week one weekend numero uno.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it feels like it went basically the

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way that we all expected. I mean, maybe Alabama Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here watching.

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Speaker 2: These games and saying, Okay, Tulane went the way we expected,

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James Madison the way we expected. So now we're just

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kind of sitting here and waiting for these quarterfinals. I mean,

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the sport has screwed itself so many which ways, on

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the scheduling, on the playoff format, on the handling of

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the playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: I love college football.

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Speaker 2: I know you do as well, then, and everybody involved

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listening right now does. But boy does it have a

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lot of problems. And sadly those problems were in many

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respects on display this weekend with the way these games

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played out, the teams involved, and the fact that there

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really wasn't a lot of juice to what we saw

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over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Look, my biggest issue with this whole thing

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is people forget that there's contracts that required that JMU

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and Tulane get in. Six highest rated conference champions get in.

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That's contractual. So you don't want to you don't want

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to get into a legal battle here, and that's what

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could have happened if you didn't pick, if you did

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not put Jamu and Tulane into this college football playoff. Furthermore,

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this you had.

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Speaker 1: You, you had to put them in.

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Speaker 2: I don't deny it, but but once again, how we

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got here like this is march madness. I mean, that's

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not what football is. It's not basketball and the sport

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this is. This is not a commentary on they shouldn't

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have been in. They should have been based on the rules.

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It's just how this sport has set up this postseason

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that's made the Bulls irrelevant and really only given us

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a handful of good games after conference championship weekend, while

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also watering those down in the process as well.

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Speaker 3: I totally get where both sides of the table are

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coming from in this conversation. This is not the first time,

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nor will be the last time that blowouts happen in

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this first weekend. There's plenty of P four versus P

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four blowouts, right, We've seen that time and time again.

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It's not just P four versus G six blowouts. Correct, correct, absolutely,

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And so what do we do to remedy the situation?

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I think that still, do you want Cinderella's stories or

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do you not? Pete? Where do you stand in that?

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Do you want a Cinderella story or no.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, there's no evidence to suggest that Cinderella's

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work in football in this environment that we've created with

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nil and everything else. I mean, we even saw this

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trend last year of March Madness. We had more power

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for teams than we had ever had because you're seeing

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these major college sports become the haves and the have

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nots with the money involved. So the days of Davidson

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making a Sweet Sixteen run with Steph Curry or Loyola

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by the wayside. In basketball, it can still happen in basketball.

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big upset. In football, it is so much more difficult

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for that Cinderella story to exist. We're all longing for

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the days of Boise State and Oklahoma in that Fiesta

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bal that was over twenty years ago. Now at this point, right,

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time to acknowledge where the sport is and these games

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with G five schools, yeah, I mean they're nice, but

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they don't do anything for the viewer. And that's supposedly

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what the sport is supposed to be about. Now the

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viewer first, and the viewer is not being handled at

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a good product with the way it's currently set up.

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Speaker 3: Georgia destroyed TCU sixty five to seven. Once upon a

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time in the college football playoff, Oregon destroyed Florida State

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fifty nine to twenty. Alabama destroyed Michigan State thirty eight

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to zero, LSU sixty three to twenty eight. Versus Oklahoma,

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These are all college football playoff games. Alabama fifty two,

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within the power force structure, is what I'm getting at.

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given year, it seems like there's maybe five six elite teams,

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then you have the very good teams from twenty one

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to maybe forty that can compete with those those great teams,

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and you maybe see some some wins and losses between

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essentially a tiered system. But we do have some parody.

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team this year. They have not been relevant for the

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last twenty years. So I think, I mean, I think

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we're making more progress than a lot of people are

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are are talking. They're not talking about the progress that

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has been made in the parody of college football world,

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and why aren't we talking about that? I do think

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there is more parody, and we're seeing other teams get

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into the They used to be good now they're great teams,

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and they're getting into at least the conversation, do you

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want to see an expanded playoff? Is the question? In

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your opinion? Do you need it? Do you need sixteen,

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do you need twenty? Do you need twenty four? So

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you don't have Notre Dame, you don't have BYU, you

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don't have maybe you know the Vanderbilt you had Diego

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Pavia sitting there. He's a good story he's an SEC

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team that he leads an SEC team. You could have

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expanded to at least sixteen to make it most of

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the teams happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, But I think then to your point,

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do we have sixteen teams that can win a national

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championship and based on you know, the results that you

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rightfully noted, the answer is no. I mean, heck, I'm

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at the point man where I would just I'd be

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open to going back to a BCS style system. I mean,

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it might bring some relevancy back to the balls. We

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know that there are usually two, three, maybe four elite

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teams every year that can win a national championship. Does

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that save the bulls? I don't know that shit may

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have sailed. But I mean we're talking about how, hey,

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there aren't a lot of great college football playoff games

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over the last going back even ten years now, since

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this thing went to four and then went to twelve,

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So should we be talking about expanding it.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, I'm just I'm not there. As

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Speaker 2: I was a big proponent of BYU getting into the

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college Football Playoff, I don't want to solve it by

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expanding it because then we get to the same debate

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on Team seventeen and eighteen and on and on we go.

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Speaker 3: There's a certain amount of like brand equity that we're

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I think there's like a threshold or a cutoff where

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these legacy brands like the Notre Dames, they can't piss

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and moan there if they're out right. So, if you

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want to go, and I'm with you, I want to

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see data. I want to see objective metrics. If you

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want a human subjective lie, you have to wait it appropriately.

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human element, right You just want to at least have

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to see maybe a combo of Council and BCS algorithm

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driven metric to balance out the corruptible human element. And

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Speaker 1: For, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think we're all looking for something like that, but

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unfortunately there's no evidence to suggest it's changing anytime soon,

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which is a shame because we all know how broken

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this thing is right now, and the sport is by

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and large and it's something that we all love and

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we want to see fixed and corrected. But you know,

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the playoff really the committee really embarrassed itself this year

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with the Miami Notre Dame thing and the way that

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they really just flip flop them at the end for

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no apparent reason, even though Miami deserved to be ahead

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of them due to the head to head and the

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all the talking points were coming out of the ESPN

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several weeks throughout this process. So I don't think it's

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the big ten in the SEC. And that's how we've

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Speaker 3: In it is college football more broken than it has

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been in the last fifty years? You think it's more

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Speaker 2: I mean, the fans side of me says yes, But

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the business side would suggest that's not the case, because

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they're doing great numbers in the regular season, they're doing

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there's more of them. So I know ESPN's probably happy

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about out that, but it does feel like we're just

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trending in an unsustainable direction when it comes to devaluing

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opting out left and right, and then we haven't even

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model that can't maintain itself. I know we're talking about

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how the House v NCAA settlement will give this twenty

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point five million dollar quasi salary cap to the athletic

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departments for athletes, but NIL is still going to be there.

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Speaker 1: On top of all that.

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Speaker 2: So really nothing's changed, and that's where the sport does

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continue to have a slew of issues going forward.

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Speaker 3: We got Pete Mundo here on your Utah ESPN Radio network.

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Pete is a big twelve insider. Tell us, Pete, give

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me all the things that you're involved in on the daily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I do a four hour morning show in Kansas

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sports itch. I've owned it for ten years. I worked

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in Oklahoma, covered Oklahoma State and Oklahoma when they were

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the Big twelve outlet, Heartland College Sports has really been

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my baby now for over a decade. And we've got

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You can subscribe there. But really I started it because

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I saw the SEC bias coming into the sport going

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back twenty eleven, twelve thirteen, and I didn't feel like

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the Big Twelve had a voice, And boy, if I

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only knew what was coming, I was right about that.

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I'll say that I'm wrong about plenty, but I was

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right about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, it brings me kind of to my next point.

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BYU was left out. The Big Twelve's kind of left

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out outside of Texas Tech, and even Texas Tech somewhat

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underrated in my opinion in the poll in the com

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Football Playoff poll. Where does the Big twelve bias stem from?

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Why was BYU left out? In your opinion? What objective

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data points get you lean too, and what conspiratorial points

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can you point to?

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Speaker 1: Well objectively, you know, we are.

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Speaker 2: Twelve years into the College Football Playoff and the Big

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twelve has one win as a conference and that's TCU

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beating Michigan and then they got crushed by Georgia. So

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that's the objective side. That's why it's critical that Texas

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Tech has a run here to prove that the Big

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with Tech, and that would actually help the case for

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BYU and what they accomplished this year and what they

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may accomplish in future seasons. So we need Texas Tech,

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if you're a Big twelve fan, to put together a

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run because it's hard to see how the Big Twelve

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ever gets two teams into this format. If they can't

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get two teams in this year. When BYU I mean yes,

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they were not close games. Although the Big Twelve championship

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game was a one score game late in the third quarter,

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they were not close final scores. But they have two

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losses to a team that I believe is the top

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two or three team in the country. I know they

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were ranked fourth, but I think this is a top

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two or three team in the country. So if the

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Big Twelve can't get two teams in this year, how

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are they going to do it. They've got to get

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credibility in this tournament, and that starts with Texas Tech.

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So that's where I believe it is. Objectively, if you

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want to look at it that way, the Big Twelve

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just has not been good as a conference in the

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College Football Playoff going back to the early days. Oklahoma

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was just a nightmare in this thing. And then you

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look at the conspiratorial side of it. You've got ESPN

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partners with the SEC most notably, and they're trying to

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jam as many of their teams in to help their

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guys as much as they can, and they're the de

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fact bolt college Football commissioners. Well that's my conspiratorial side.

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all of those things. But it has not been good

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for the Big twelve.

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Speaker 3: So let me post something to you, right, like we

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all feel that obviously Big twelve needs a voice. You

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saw that it was being underserved, undervalued all those things

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over the last fifty years. I would make the argument

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that the SEC and the Big ten have built their

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brands the equity that we lean into, the modern day

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equity that they that they automatically get right because they

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were the SEC And how many NFL guys are producing

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the championships. It has been bought and paid for by

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liquid cash. You can combine maybe you know, with improper

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payments at Ordron hopped onto a podcast Busting with the

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Boy said he was asked the question about nil and

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and how that could change the way that he would

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how he would approach coaching. He's like, well, they come

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through the front door rather than the back door. They've

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been paying them forever, right, Like, we can we agree

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on that premise that they've been paying improperly these student

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athletes in these leagues over the last fifty years with

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bag men. Absolutely, Okay, So you've built equity and you've

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attracted the best players through cash funds, and maybe the

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schools themselves have the TV money that it correlates to

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some sort of population density right to build up their infrastructure.

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But those donors have been paying players forever, and now

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that everything's changing, what are they doing? You see the

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actions more in conference games. They're leveraging that equity that's

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been built off of cheating over the last fifty years.

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And now we're like, oh, we're just going to play ourselves, right,

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And you look at the paper tiger that is Texas

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to Miami, who lost to Louisville, who lost SMU you

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know who are barely you know who beat Notre Dame. Yes,

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but you can see the SEC they don't want those

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things occurring. So I guess what what I'm getting at

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here is the system is obviously a cartel in essence

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a cabal, and the only way to expose it is

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through I think expansion, and Texas Tech has to win,

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Like you're right, Texas Tech has to find a way

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to beat Oregon. I just have a I take issue

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with this circling of the wagons that the SEC in

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Big ten is executing right now. Because they've been cheating

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for fifty years. You know.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing though, and this is this is I

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saw the ed oorzer On stuff. There's no doubt the

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SEC was playing paying under the table for years. That's undeniable.

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We all know the game that was being played. But

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now that it's out in the open, it's like, Okay,

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so the SEC, a couple of SEC teams are doing it,

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you know, a couple of Big twelve teams are doing it.

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But is that a model that works for the long term?

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I just I don't think it is. So I'm I'm

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struggling to do you know how any of this beneficial.

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Speaker 3: Do you trust that the SEC and Big ten are

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not going to try to continue to cheat just because

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there's some rules in place from the NCAA. Are they

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going to find a way around it?

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Speaker 1: You mean if there was a true salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if they say, oh, yeah, this is the

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salary cap, it's not legal to set a salary cap

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because there's no players union, there's no The federal government

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has not allowed college athletics to be a monopoly like

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the NFL, which is the only professional American football league.

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Does that make sense? You don't have a players. Yeah,

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so you can't. You can't put a salary cap on it.

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They're going to find a way to cheat. They're going

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to find a way to circumvent whatever by laws you've

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put in place. That's what they've done forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, So what's what's then your point from there?

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is even if you set up by

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laws to try to try to govern it, they're gonna

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cheat anyways because they had by laws in place that

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they circumvented for the last fifty years. So the only

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way at the free market has to has to determine it,

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and the pendulum have to swing hard this way, in

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my opinion, and hopefully the free market swings to towards

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Texas Tech at least this go around. Is it sustainable?

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Probably not, because eventually you're gonna get donor fatigue, So

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it'll be it'll be interesting to see what happens. But

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I do think the pendulum needed to swing this direction.

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Do you want the federal government involved now? Is the

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question to to govern it? And they will they allow

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it not to be corrupted in any way?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean that's you know, that's that's I

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You're laughing about it, but you're right. I mean, the

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government can't do anything. Right. That being said, do we

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need some type of union element to this? I mean yeah,

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and basically when to treat it like a professional sport,

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you know, I mean where you have salary caps and

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all these different rules and regulations. It's the only way

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to make it work for I think everybody, and you

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know I'm a capitalist at heart. The only time some

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form of socialism actually works is in sports, because that's

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what you want.

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Speaker 1: And there's no better brand than.

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Speaker 2: The NFL on the entire planet right now, and it's

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basically run through a socialistic model. So you know what,

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that's the one time where I say to myself, socialism

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can work when you're trying to create a level playing

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field in sports to generate excitement around a team. Look

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at what the Chiefs are going through right now. All

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these Super Bowls in a row are.

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Speaker 1: Catching up with them.

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Speaker 2: Guys are tired, they're picking last every round of the

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NFL draft. Their CAP's a disaster. And now you've got

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these new teams. The Patriots are back in the mix,

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the Chargers, the Broncos. I mean, that's what they want.

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And if college football wants to basically be the NFL light,

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they would be wise to have a similar model instead

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of just saying, like Kenny Dillingham said the other day,

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do we have a twenty million dollar dollar out there

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who wants to stroke me with check?

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, that's no way to run a sport.

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It's a joke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just asking for donor fatigue right there. Right,

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you have to have some sort of sustainable or the

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universities can cease to take advantage of their student athletes

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and actually treat them as employees. But heaven forbid they

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have to pay out on workmen's comp or provide any

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sort of insurance, or provide any sort of like long

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term advocacy for those student athletes. Right. They just want

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to be able to make the money off. They want

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a TV, right, So they're not going to employ that.

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't want anything like that because that that that

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exposed them too much. So all this altruistic student athlete

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talk goes out the window as soon as they have

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to employ them. So evil nature, in my opinion, Pete

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always appreciate our time final thing before we let you

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go BYU Notre dame. They just they just stroked a

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home and home rather than the pop tart ball. The

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quitting Irish said, hey, we'll just give you a home

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a home. We'll do it on our own terms rather

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than pay. You know, one of the TV TV, I

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don't know, powerbrokers in college football.

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Speaker 2: Your reaction, well, you know, I'm glad Notre Dame put

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on its big boy pints. They should have been playing

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in the pop tards fold, but they were too cowardly

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to do it. You know, it's too bad, because when

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you want to prove that you are the team that

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got hosed, you go out there and do it.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame did not want to.

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Speaker 2: I remember the first year of the playoff, TCU got

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bumped down from number three to number six the final

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weekend after blasting Iowa State fifty five to three in

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their final game of the regular season. What did they do?

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They went out there. They crushed Old Miss in the

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Sugar Bowl. I believe it was Gary Patterson. Didn't cry,

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didn't complain, He went out there and he proved that

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that team was worthy of being in the playoff, and

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they were worthy of being in the playoff. Instead, Notre

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Dame takes its ball and goes home. It's nice they've

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scheduled a home and home In part that's because USC

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said they're done going to South Bend in November with

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their grueling nine game Big ten schedule.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame them one bit, and you know, not

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that I needed another reason to be.

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Speaker 2: On BYU bandwagon, but I'm definitely going to be on

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it for those games.

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Speaker 1: Actually, all Big twelve fans.

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Speaker 3: Pete Mundo, ladies and gentlemen, Pete, we appreciate you joining us.

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Great content, great commentary. We invite everyone to follow you

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and check out your podcast as well as your platform.

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Thanks so much, Pete.

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Speaker 1: All right, we appreciate it. See you guys. Here you go.

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