Speaker 1: I'm afraid Joe Rogan is choosing the wide road of
almost Christianity. That's like being almost alive. And the wide
road takes many forms. Because the road to salvation is
narrow but clear, the wide roads is wide and ambiguous.
And if you're Joe Rogan is choosing that wide road
to almost Christianity, which is to be almost saved, which
is to not be saved. And I want to give
an example of how the wide road has manifested, and
this is to illustrate absurdity by showing absurdity. And then
we'll get into this interview that Joe has done with
the Great Hope of Democrats. A Presbyterian Christian named Representative
James tallerco friend of mine Ben turned me onto this interview.
We'll talk about this with the help of Know Your
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and of course, to the great auspices of God Almighty
and Lord help me focus on this.
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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made in. These
are the times to which God has decided where shall live.
So the wide roads, this is the path that leads
to destruction. And we're warned about the wide road. I mean,
you can take the wide road at the widest point,
which is satanism. Do as that will. That is the
entire law. And that's about as wide a road as
it gets. Now, for public relations purposes later they have
they've added, do is that will harm no one? Well,
if you are practicing Satanism, you're harming everyone you love
and everyone around you and yourself, and you would be
practicing the lies and coveting as if to get good
at it. That is practicing sin as if it's your
professional sports. No repentance, no correction, no allowing the Holy
Spirit to correct, because you can't have the Holy Spirit.
So that's about as wide a road as it gets.
But the wide road can be typified by people who
have joined a movement for any emotional reason, and perhaps
even they think that they've come to some cognitively supportable
reason for joining this. So take for instance, people who
demonstrate on behalf of what would you say, supporting same
sex activity, same sex attraction supporting the lies of transgenderism.
For a lot of times, it's family. You know, my
kid is this, my brother's this. Therefore I have to
support this. And I'll make the point again. You don't
see pro adultery rallies, you don't see por pro fornication rallies.
You are not seeing a ton of rallies in favor
of people having their limbs cut off, people who have
body integrity disorder, which is another form of body dysmorphia,
and true gender dysphoria is that it's body dysmorphia taken
to a sexual level. And we don't need to spend
time here talking about the endgame of transhumitism. We've done
that in other shows. So people go into that one issue,
let's say that they call it gay rights, and then
they are on this wide road and suddenly, imagine if
you went to someone who said, you know what, I'm
going to put a a so called gay pridebow on
my car because I've learned that my best friend from
college is a same sex attractive man and I'm going
to support him, and they do that, and imagine if
you stood there and you said, Okay, in ten years,
you're going to be marching through the streets of Portland
announcing that you hate cops because this has happened in Portland.
Bottoms tops, we all hate cops. So for those who
have been blessed with non familiarity in terms of bottoms
and tops, you can just stay there or you can guess,
and you're probably guessing correctly. So that same rally had
people chanting from the river to the sea, Gaza will
be free for Ukraine, for immigrant rights, and it's at
a pride festival. Pride itself is part of the wide
road because God abhors human pride in all forms, because
what exactly do we have to be proud of. We're
proud of our bodies. Try having a body without God.
You're proud of your wealth, Try earning it without the
oxygen he gave you, or the life he gave you,
or the life sustaining gravity he provides. Try it. It's hard.
Most people have never done it. So Joe Rogan takes
this guy in and hey, he's a good speaker, he's
a young guy. And Joe Rogan said during the interview, man,
you should run for president. And of course, now the
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Presbyterian Take State Texas Rep. James tell Ricom and he's
talking here with Joe Rogan. And Rogan is a guy,
and praise God, Rogan is starting to investigate Christianity and
I've heard he's going to church and he's certainly curious
about it, which Praise God Almighty. But this is such
a crucial time for Rogan. And because it's Rogan, I mean, yeah,
I care about Rogan's I care about his eternity because
I'm told to, and he's a neighbor. Where to love
our neighbors as ourselves. Love God with all our entire
heart and mind, soul and strength. Love the Lord. That way,
love our neighbors is ourselves. So yes, I love Rogan.
I want him to be saved. I wouldn't be talking
about this if Rogan didn't have millions and millions and
millions of young men watching his progress. So where Rogan
lands on this road, if it's the wide road of
almost Christianity meaning almost saved meaning not saved meaning going
to Hell, then that's going to take a lot of
people with them. But if Rogan comes to understand the
narrow road and that the Lord has warned us that
the road to salvation is narrow, the path to salvation
is narrow, then he has a great shot at making
it into heaven by truly accepting Lord Jesus crisis as
a lord and saved and are going to be changed
by him. And people could say, we wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute. If he doesn't accept
your version of Jesus, he's not saved. No, I have
no version of Jesus. See the path that's narrow is
still a path, and the path that's narrow is documented
in the Bible. The wide road of almost Christianity does
everything it can to erase portions of the Bible, or
to pretend they don't exist, or to modify them out
of their meanings. And I would think that Rogan knows this,
I mean, at least could think about this. You know,
he's become a guess, a pretty decent fighter, certainly jacked
in great shape, particularly for a guy his age. I
think he's pretty aware of how many times a professional
fighter would practice a turn kick or a donkey sweep
or something as simple as a single legg take down,
something like that. They're practice delivering a good, solid punch
from the hip, even if it's just a right hook something. Practice, practice, practice,
Because the road to victory, or the path to victory
in some of these fights is, if a close fight,
it's a very narrow path. You have a narrow path
to victory against a good opponent. And if you're fighting
someone with equally good physical skills, equally good cardiovascar or recovery, balance, strength,
power generation, speed, accuracy, all of that, and you're well
matching those things, you have a narrow path to victory.
It might only be your mind. So I would think
you would understand this because eternal victory requires walking this
narrow path. So James Talerco gets on Joe Rogan and
he begins with an open and a statements. Here he
gets into talking, by the way, about same sex attraction
and abortion, etc.
Speaker 3: So I get suspicious when anybody, whether it's a televangelist
or a politician, tells me that something is central to
my faith, When Jesus never talks about it to me,
that should I think ring alarm bells as to what
is the agenda here? What is someone trying to get across?
And I think we're looking at the last forty fifty years.
The religious right has made a concerted effort to make
homosexuality and abortion the two biggest issues for Christians. And
you know, the Southern Baptist Convention was pro choice until
the late nineteen seventies. So this idea that to be
a Christian means you have to be anti gay and
anti abortion, there really is no historical, theological, biblical basis
for that opinion.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a very sad statement. Jesus lived his life
as a man growing up reading much of the Old Testament. Okay,
everything we've seen he saw. He did come with the
New Covenant, but he did not come to erase the law.
He came to fulfill it. He was the only human
being to fulfill the law fully, god fully human, but
he did not come to erase it. The Old Testament
warns against same sex activity, fornication, adultery, sexual prostitution, sexual
use of children. It warns against the ritual murder of children,
which happened in pagan societies. It warns against murder, which
is the taking of an innocent life. It has very
strong prohibitions against that. It warns against adultery. It defines marriage.
The Jewish people were told you're not going to have
multiple wives. And I know King David sinned in that.
So did Solomon. There's the whole debate as to whether
Solomon's even saved. And when Jesus came, he re affirms
these things. That is why therefore a man leaves his
family and clings to his wife. Jesus did not say
therefore a person leaves his family and clings to his
marriage partner. There is no model for the acceptance of
that in Christian society, nor is there any model for
the acceptance of adultery or fornication Christian society. Now that's
changed because people want the path to be a road.
They want the road to be a field. They want
the field to be wherever you want to walk. And
it's always done on the basis of human sexual desire,
always because it's something that ninety nine percent of people share.
And sexual pleasure is pretty easy to get. You go
into a room alone, open up your phone or your laptop,
and boom, you got yourself some sexual pleasure, very easy
to get. You don't have to go see a drug dealer,
you don't even need a computer screen. Frankly, pretty easy
to get. So Satan uses this and it's also been
commingled with love, and this has been a very very
brilliant thing that love is love. Lie, No, it's not.
They're very distinct types of love, and the Bible discusses those.
So Talerico is doing what the Left needs to do,
which is to once again go back and make the
road very very wide. Was the Southern Baptist Convention pro
choice the seventies, Yeah, so were they pro murder? Well,
let's just think about what murder means the taking of
an innocent life. What was the first murder in the Bible?
Cain and Abel? What drove that jealousy? One brother jealous
over the other brother because the other brother was able
to give a gift that God honored, and one brother
didn't have a gift that God could honor because he
didn't want to give up what he had. So he
became jealous and rage field he killed his brother. God
saw it to me, He said, the very earth crawls
out because of this blood. You shall not murder. So
let's define murder the taking the life of an innocent person.
Find me a more innocent person than a baby in
a womb. I mean a baby in a womb cannot
conceive of theft because the baby in the womb can
conceive of nothing other than the womb. The baby in
the womb cannot conceive of coveting, covet what. My existence
is an ambionic fluid with muted sounds of my mother
and father's voices, and occasionally that's from other people. Sin,
Sexual sin impossible. The child cannot conceive of it. Striking
a neighbor in the cheek acts of violence, speaking back
against their parents not honoring God can't conceive of it.
So the most innocent of life form, which is why
the Left has done a real hard work trying to
make it seem that it's a great mystery as to
when life begins, huge mystery, which is answerable pretty easily.
Show me a human being who came about without conception,
Show that to me. Test to baby right conceived outside
the womb, still conceived, When did life begin? Well? Has
life ever begun without conception?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So Rogan is, i think, excitedly leading into this stuff,
and therefore I'm very concerned that so are the young
men who watch Joe Rogan, because there is a massive
influx of young men going into Orthodox Christianity, going into
even Orthodox churches, gre Orthodox Catholic churches, because they're seeking
the structure. Because many young men have become aware that
there is no structure, that men are derided, and that
they know that they have some role. They can sense
that they have some role, and God gave men the
role of leading the family spiritually. So I'm concerned not
just about Rogan, but obviously the young men who watch Rogan.
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now I think intrigued, begins to talk to this young man,
this tallerco who Rogan says should run for presidents, and
they have a discussion about abortion. Well, when was abortion
even invented.
Speaker 3: Well, there was certainly abortions in the ancient world. There
there's well, there's some there's and again I haven't stated
this enough to say this definitively, but there are interpretations
of certain passages from the Torah where some folks will
even say that there is a there is some subtle
instructions for how to perform an abortion in the ancient world,
certain things to drink, things like that. The point is
that this idea that there is a set Christian orthodoxy
on the issue of abortion is just not rooted in scripture.
We can have an honest debate about it. If Pote Francis,
you know, were to come back and sit at this
table and tell me, you know, James, I'm pro life
and anti abortion. Here's my theological argument. I am here
to listen and respect that opinion I have. I have
dear friends who who are anti abortion. All I'm asking
is that for Christians who are pro choice and who
respect bodily autonomy of women, that we be given the
space to make our theological argument, because I think there
is a lot of biblical evidence to support that opinion.
Speaker 1: Great, let's have the theological discussion now. On that front,
he comes across as very reasonable. And this is one
of the reasons I think Rogan liked him, because he's
not flamethrowing, he doesn't speak the language of hatred. He
doesn't seem to be a hatefield man. What a relief?
And I guess I would just ask him, what is
a baby? Let's start at the very beginning, there's a
baby in the womb. Theologically, with great easy biblical support,
Who made that baby? Who knit the baby together in
the womb? Who counted every hair in the baby's head?
Let's start there. Theologically, we know the Bible is very
clear in this God did that? In Whose image? Is
that child made God's? Does God love that child? Yes?
Does God want that child to be in the New
Heaven and the New Earth with him? Yes, That's why
he sent his son Jesus Christ to die and the
cross as a propitiation for our sins, not just the
sins past, but for every sin that will ever be committed.
So God did that for that baby? Is that baby
in the womb? Have they committed an act of aggression
against another which would give that person the right to
defend itself? Is there any fetus, any baby in the
womb that has ever been such a threat to human
life that there would be a justifiable act of self
defense against that baby. Now, you could say, well, there
are cases where the babies, the baby being in the
mother is certainly the other's life, and there are there
are instances like that, like egg topic pregnancies, there's tubal
pregnancies that that can threaten the life of a woman.
They're rare, very rare, and mostlbgyns have never encountered them.
But in that case, then to me, that is truly
left in God's hands, because then that is the woman's
life hanging in the balance. Very rare. But in ninety
nine point nine percent of cases that's not the case.
So I think I would ask tall Rico those series
of questions, who made the baby, who counted every hair
on its head? Who loves it? And whose image was
he made? Or he or she has that baby committed
an act of aggression against another, meaning that you could
invoke the law of self defense. No, what then is
the taking of that life? How is it not murder?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: I think this is a very important distinction, particularly in
these political times where I have had formerly really dear
friends text me and announce that I am a homophobe,
white supremacist. I'm trying to get the list right homophobe, racist,
and white supremacist because I vote for President. Voted for
Trump and support many of his policies, including the immigration policies,
the removal from a country of illegal alines. So I
think this is really really vital. Someone who makes a
mistake out of desperation, and even if it's a season
of mistakes or one big long season of mistake, is
not that thing. They did that thing. So I know
people who've had abortions, and I I won't say you're
a baby murderer one time thing, you're that of desperation
or belief that their life was at risk. You committed
an act that God abhorse and he warns against, and
he calls sin. And God is anxious to forgive, He's
righteous to forgive. So I think this distinction matters if
we're going to make this argument in kind, because this
guy's making a kind argument, but it's an empty argument. Scripturally,
if you just get down to you shall not murder
and understands how God makes babies and the evident joy
in which God makes babies. So they had this discussion
about biblical evidence, and this is where it's vital for
Rogan to understand, and I hope he gets this, that
he cannot put together a solid face structure based upon
people coming onto his program to sell a point of view.
And James tall Rico is a politician selling a point
of view. And I am assuming, given his tone, I
am assuming that these are very sincerely held beliefs of
this young man. And he's there to sell a thing,
an image, a candidacy, a political future, a pack. He's
choosing a lane in his party in Texas. He's choosing
the lane of soft spoken, reasonable leftist. Now, one thing
he said there with which I agree is he said
that the church has made this horrible mistake of making
abortion and same sex activity the sins true, because man,
I've seen it one of the and you better hear
me when I tell you this. Please search your heart
that you're not walking around saying, well, I might be
doing this, but I'm not doing that. My sin is
not as bad as that. That is one of the
most deceptive tools that Satan uses, and it can take
you straight into hell. Well, at least I've not done that,
So that has been a big, big mistake the church
made because you have a bunch of people saying, yeah,
you know what, I watch porn fifteen times a day,
and I am mentally involving myself in orgies and I'm
mentally cheating on my wife. And I'm actually, in that
way cheating on my wife or my husband because women
do this do just not as regularly. And yeah, so
some of the porn's gotten more extreme, and maybe it
involves some activities that I know are not biblically sound.
But you know what, I'm not going out. I'm cheating
on my wife with a woman, well, not in person,
but I would bet you your wife would beg to
differ and say, you are demoting me. Search your hearts.
So he makes this case, and I agree with him
on this case. The counter argument to this is you
have the so called gay church taking the widest road possible,
but always on one arena. I can't stress this enough.
You are not going to see a theologian go on
Joe Rogan's program to explain to Joe Rogan that Jesus
Christ didn't really mean love thy neighbor as thyself, because
what does neighbor really mean? For instance, Jesus had to
take his followers for a long walk to go to
that region where they had the gates of Hades. And
if you don't know this, that's a that was a
real place. There was a cave and it was a
very very deep cave that I think went down into
to water eventually, but it was a long drop and
people truly believed it was a gateway to Hell. So
people who worship demons set up a temple next door,
and they did unspeakable acts in that temple. At outside
that temple, those are the gates of Hades. So when
the Lord Jesus took his followers there and was talking
to Peter, who but who do you say? I am?
And the wide path people by the way, the wide Path,
the almost Christian path. They have said that when Jesus
was asking his followers who am I, he was gender confused. No,
they've said that that was him having someone hoping someone
would say, you're a woman born on the wrong body.
But when he went there and he got from Peter
Peter's confession, you are the son of God, you are
the Messiah. And Lord Jesus said, it is my bless you,
bless you Simon, who then called Peter for it was
not me who told you this, but my father in Heaven.
And it is upon this rock that I build my church,
and the Gates of Hades will not prevail against it.
They knew what the Gates of Hades look like. They've
been there. So my point is, no one's going to
go on Rogan's show and sayle, you know what, Jesus
didn't really mean love they neighbor. For instance, Jesus took
his followers on a very, very long walk to this
place called the Gates of Hades. There were these horrible
acts being carried out over there, some of the worst
forms of sacrifices and perversions you could ever ever imagine.
So Jesus didn't love those people. They weren't even his
neighbors one this long walk. So he may have been
meant love your neighbor, as in the guy in the
apartment next door, but those people, no one's going to
do that. And you could go build an edifice of
a case for that if you wanted to. But that's
always going to be on the topic of sexuality, because
it is, as I've said, such an easy thing to
achieve sexual pleasure. Not to be gross, but you could
go do it the next ten minutes if who wanted to.
And a lot of people fight that spiritual war, and
they should, well, I think everybody does really now. In
that period of time, they were still with Jesus, and eventually,
of course, Jesus went to the cross, he raised from
the deads he manifested and appeared and was touched by people,
and then he went back into heaven. And we went
into this period of time that Luke documents in the
Book of Acts. So the Book of Acts is the
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when he did that, they began to document this. Luke
did went back and looked at it and documented these steps.
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So Joe Rogan asked for some biblical evidence of this
guy's claims. What do you think is the biblical evidence
to support the opinion of being pro abortion?
Speaker 3: So one you know in Genesis, God creates life by
breathing life into the first human being, which we later
call Adam. That life starts when you take your first breath,
and that is actually the mainline position in Judaism is
that that's when life starts. Then if you think about
it from a Christian perspective, what something interesting that Jesus
does throughout his ministry is he is breaking first century
norms about women, talking with women, learning from women, having
women lieutenants in his movement, and this was something that
was kind of unheard of in the first century. The
longest conversation Jesus has with anybody in the whole Bible
is with the Samaritan woman at the well. And so
this affirmation of women as full and equal people as
a huge part of the Jesus movement, especially the early Church.
And then the last I think story I would go
to as the story of Mary. Mary is probably my
favorite figure in the Bible, the mother of Jesus. And
you know, she's an oppressed, peasant teenage girl living in
poverty under an oppressive empire as.
Speaker 1: A Jew, and she.
Speaker 3: Has a vision from God that she's going to give
birth to a baby who's going to bring the powerful
down from their thrones, going to scatter the the proud.
Who's going to send the rich away empty?
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go in reverse order. Are we debating Judaism. Nope,
Judaism has his belief, Christianity has ours. So okay, Jews
believe that life begins at the first breath? Okay? Did
God when he breathed life into Adam? Was Adam inhaling? No,
he's having life breathed into him. It wasn't inhaling his lungs,
wasn't sucking it in. It was being pushed into him.
Very different. Secondly, if you take him through the process
of genesis, and he's taking us through this, who did
God on whose image? Had God created mankind again on
his own? The first life that was taken outraged God?
The first time human beings chose their own way. I mean,
God knew it was going to happen, and look at
what it resulted in Jesus respecting women. Jesus loved everybody
he treated, even the guards who were attempting to belittle
him with love. The longest conversation Jesus had was with
the Samaritan woman. No, it wasn't Jesus walked with his
followers for three years. That's the longest documented conversation. But
Jesus walked with his followers for three years. Do you
think in that period of time that they didn't have
a running dialogue, that it was a three year conversation.
The effort this guy makes and take to try to
make this scriptural support. He doesn't quote any scripture in
favor of abortion. Then he gets to marry, and his
point is the woke church, gay gospel approach. While Mary
was given a choice, God always gives a choice, Judas
was given a choice. Judas Is Scariot was given a choice. Nicodemus,
the pharisee who became Jesus, curious as it were, and
met Jesus on a rooftop at night. So it's to
not be seen Jesus was actually respecting him agreeing to
do that, because Jesus could have said, look, I've got
nothing to hide, I'm not going to sneak around to
the shadows on the God of the universe. He was
doing that for Nicodemus. So Nicodemus was given a choice.
Tradition tells that Nicodemus eventually did accept Jesus and worked
with Joseph of a Marathea to make sure that Jesus
had a good tomb and was given the money for
spices or given the spices to have his body anointed.
So that's what tradition tells us. He was given a choice.
Satan was given a choice. Satan couldn't have rebelled if
he wasn't given a choice. Mary being given a choice
is not an argument for abortion. It's an argument of
a God who wants to be loved, because only when
you choose to love are you truly loving. God could
have made us robots. He could have done He could
have made us captives. There's a whole dynamic in which
you fall in love with your captives or captors. He
could have done that. He could have just made it
impossible for so not love him. That's not an argument
for abortion. It's an argument on behalf of a loving
God who gives us liberty that is, freedom within limits,
and a God who has invented accountability. So the danger
here with Rogan and the young man who listened to
this is now it's easy, Oh my gosh, now it
can be cool, and tell my girlfriends, oh yeah, no,
I'm all about your body autonomy, and the baby's not
really a person, and he hasn't taken his first breath,
so up until that point, and well, up until that,
we can. That's why we're talking about this. And I'm very,
very concerned that Joe Rogan is choosing the wide road
of almost Christianity, meaning being almost saved being not saved
at all. So Tolerico tried to add some more context
to his alleged arguments.
Speaker 3: But I think all this in terms of in context
of abortion, because before God comes over Mary and we
have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent, which is
from our I mean, go back and read this in Luke.
I mean the angel comes down and asks Mary if
this is something she wants to do, and she says,
if it is God's will, let it be done, let
it be let it happen. So to me, that is
an affirmation in one of our most central stories that
creation has to be done with consent. You cannot force
someone to create. Creation is one of the most sacred
acts that that we engage in as human beings. But
that has to be done with consent, it has to
be done with freedom. And to me, that is absolutely
consistent with the ministry and life and death of true graggestion.
Speaker 1: She just made an argument against rape. You just made
an argument against rape. You know what else? Jesus. Other
times he asked for permission when he was saving people.
Very regularly he has do you want to be saved?
Do you want me to do this? He didn't very
often just walk up to someone and say, boom, saved.
He would wait to be asked, and on the occasions
that to his glory, he decided that this is a
way to demonstrate to people the glory of gods. He
would ask them. I guess the standout example of not
asking was Lazarus. Because Lazarus was dead, he asked his
father in heaven, not for his benefit, for the people
around him. So again, that's not an argument for abortion.
It's an argument against rape, which is prohibited in Christianity.
And yeah, creation should be a choice, and it is
unless it's rape or incests. It is a choice. And
Mary said, if this is the will of God, let
it be done. If a woman becomes pregnant, was that
the will of God, let it be done to completion
to birth. He didn't make an argument against abortion. He
made an argument again sprape against incests. He made an
argument in favor of a God who loves us so
much he gives us these choices. And I worry about
Rogan because he's such a baby Christian that this is
so easy for him to go back to the Hollywood ways,
back to the thing. And there is a mighty, mighty
war going on for Joe Rogan's soul. I mean, can
you imagine the panic in Hell thinking that they might
lose this war for Joe Rogan. So of course they're
going to bring in people who speak the language of
extreme anti Christian views, and Rogan is pretty good on
those fronts. And then they bring in this guy who
has that gentle tongue, and he presents this slightly wider path.
It's not really a path, it's a road, but it's
not a highway. But remember our example from the beginning,
people who started on the slightly wider road to embracing
same sex activity. And now they are marching through the
streets of Portland saying, bottoms tops, we all hate cops.
Bottoms tops, we all hate cops. As an antecdote, not
really end, but as a counter to this, I learned
about and maybe you did two the last words of
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This is a counterpoint to what we've just heard. It
is a man who was a flawed human being, because newsflash,
all people are, and a guy who, evidently, with all evidence,
lived for God. This is the closing argument of that
that John MacArthur's last words.
Speaker 4: Apparently I hope it's okay to share you know, was
reported to me by some of those who were with
John in the hours that he was ready to go
to heaven, and one of these one of the verses
that were on his mind as his last Some of
his last words was one Corinthians fifteen fifty five, Oh death,
where is your victory? Oh death, where is your sting?
And he was speaking about how the resurrection is the
conquest of a resurrection of Christ is the conquest of
all of that. And it was reported to me that
in between gasps for air, he said, I feel no sting.
Speaker 1: God, Almighty, praise God. A defense for your faith. It
depends for your defense, for your optimism. I feel no sting,
I feel no fear. And into the hands of the Father.
Walk to guy who was not perfect, but he chose
the narrow path, not the wide road of almost being saved.
God rest John MacArthur. This is the Todd Hermann Show.
Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.
And please bless my journey home to see my beloved wife.