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Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the show Paranautica Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coop. We got cricket over there, crickets
Speaker 1: say what up?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 1: Very good, And today we have the most specialist of
Speaker 1: all guest is that we've ever had, Guestus Juliet from
Speaker 1: Cosmic Peach. Juliet, how you doing?
Speaker 2: I am doing great things for having me. I hope
Speaker 2: I can live up to that intro. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm not the most specialist guest ever.
Speaker 1: Welcome the most specialist of guest. Yeah, oh no, you're
Speaker 1: you're dude. You everything you put out is fire. I've
Speaker 1: listened to pretty much every episode you've put out, at
Speaker 1: least under Cosmic Peach on Spotify. But yeah, it's gold
Speaker 1: Thank you gold Well.
Speaker 2: If someone would have told me, like a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, that I could make a living just off
Speaker 2: of like opening my mouth and weird things coming out
Speaker 2: of it, I would have said, you're fucking crazy, Because
Speaker 2: I mean it. It is hard to bring up certain
Speaker 2: types of topics and have people first be able to
Speaker 2: accept them, in second be able to digest them and
Speaker 2: understand them. But I try to present it in a
Speaker 2: way where it's it's compelling but also entertaining, right, and
Speaker 2: I just want people to learn.
Speaker 3: Shit. I mean, that was a whole new angle on
Speaker 3: oj Simpson that I'd never heard before. Who I did? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I Nicole, Oh dude, you guys.
Speaker 2: Got to look into that shit, probably tins. I'm I'm well,
Speaker 2: this is this is for your audience. Let me just
Speaker 2: back up a little bit before somebody starts trying to
Speaker 2: throw me under the bus. Here putting aside your feet
Speaker 2: fee for her and just looking because there are experts
Speaker 2: and people who can like go and dig up fucking
Speaker 2: tombs and shit, and they can just based on looking
Speaker 2: at skeletons alone, right, they can tell whether it's a
Speaker 2: female or a male skeleton not only just based on
Speaker 2: the pelvis, but by the skull, by the hands, by
Speaker 2: the knees, like everything. You can just tell if it
Speaker 2: was a woman or a man. And there are these
Speaker 2: same people who will look at celebrities and they will say,
Speaker 2: this person has skeletal markers that are consistent with being
Speaker 2: male at birth, or this person has skeletal features that
Speaker 2: are consistent with being female at birth. And Nicole Brown
Speaker 2: Simpson happens to be one of the ones that has
Speaker 2: a predominantly male skeletal structure. And someone else that got
Speaker 2: mentioned that blew my mind was that Elvis actually has
Speaker 2: skeletal features consistent with being a female. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: I know, it just rocks your world when you really
Speaker 2: get looking into it. One that I've said for many
Speaker 2: years was a dude is Jennifer Manniston?
Speaker 3: Oh Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then like she's she's started hanging out with Obama now,
Speaker 2: and it's like, of course she has he loves dudes.
Speaker 5: Look at Michelle, you know.
Speaker 2: So I just, you know, it's something you'd actually have
Speaker 2: to take the time and really look into and listen
Speaker 2: to people who know what they're talking about. I'm not
Speaker 2: an expert on it, but I've listened to people who are,
Speaker 2: and it's really compelling, and it's it's gotten me to
Speaker 2: thinking about some shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I totally agree with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: facial structure can say a lot like the cheekbones, the
Speaker 1: jaw line, and she definitely had a very manly looking face.
Speaker 3: Part of learning more involved back feelling old stories.
Speaker 2: Well. I saw one picture where she was like posed
Speaker 2: with OJ or whatever. It was some type of like
Speaker 2: awards thing, and it almost looked like she had a
Speaker 2: five o'clock shadow. Oh man, Jesus, so look it up, people,
Speaker 2: I literally, it's one of the first pictures that pops
Speaker 2: up on Google when you put her name in, and
Speaker 2: she's got I think she's got like a white dress on,
Speaker 2: I think, but if you really look at her, she's
Speaker 2: got like this whole five o'clock shadow thing going on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at this here. Oh my god, dude, dude, yeah,
Speaker 1: I see it. That is a man's jaw. That is
Speaker 1: a five o'clock shadow, for sure, for sure. Cricket, let
Speaker 1: me just.
Speaker 2: You see that five o'clock shadow.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see it too, Julia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see it. It's it's that one right there.
Speaker 2: If you pull that up and make it big. She's
Speaker 2: definitely she's definitely got You know when they try when
Speaker 2: you try to like cover it up with makeup and
Speaker 2: it ends up making it look gray. Yeah, because it's
Speaker 2: like the the shadow and like the makeup blend together
Speaker 2: and they create this like gray cast on the skin.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm looking at right there.
Speaker 1: That is a dude. I just I'm not seeing much
Speaker 1: of an Adam's apple is the only thing that in
Speaker 1: these pictures here.
Speaker 2: Well, she's definitely got like a python in the throat.
Speaker 2: Look at that thing coming down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think that might be one.
Speaker 2: Of the easier things that you could get removed. I
Speaker 2: mean people do it all the time that are going
Speaker 2: through this like transition. People who are not even celebrities,
Speaker 2: you know, they go in, they get their dicks off,
Speaker 2: they get their Adam's apple removed, they get their jaw
Speaker 2: line shaved down. I mean, if you look at I
Speaker 2: watched this thing and it was like follow me on
Speaker 2: my transition, and the surgeon was talking about like everything
Speaker 2: he was gonna do to this person, and it sounds barbaric.
Speaker 2: It sounds medieval, the amount of we're gonna pull, we're
Speaker 2: gonna eat your hair line back, We're gonna shave your
Speaker 2: jaw line down. We're gonna bust your kneecaps and reset them.
Speaker 2: We're gonna crack your nose open. We're gonna do this,
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna turn your penis inside out.
Speaker 5: It's like, dude, this sounds horrible.
Speaker 1: None of it sounds good, right, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: Shit, and put some organ music to it. Like you
Speaker 3: got a pretty good horror plot right there. We're going
Speaker 3: to break your legs and reassemble them.
Speaker 1: Sounds like everything Joseph Mangele was just working on. I
Speaker 1: think that's what we've got a lot of our technologies.
Speaker 2: They basically rearrange your entire skeletal structure. And I think
Speaker 2: when you're born into this, especially in Hollywood and like
Speaker 2: if your parents were celebrities and you were kind of
Speaker 2: destined to do this and be this person, they get
Speaker 2: these kids pumped up with all type of like hormones
Speaker 2: and shit when they're little, so the transition is easier.
Speaker 2: And I've actually heard someone say that if you really
Speaker 2: look at Will Smith's kids, uh, the girl is actually
Speaker 2: a boy and the boy is actually a girl.
Speaker 1: Oh, and it is fun Willow or Willow's the boy, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're named after the opposite, right, Like Willow
Speaker 2: is named after will and she has masculine bone structure,
Speaker 2: and then Jaden is named after you know, Jada, and
Speaker 2: he has a more feminine bone structure. And there's all
Speaker 2: like these weird videos of like people groping on Jaden
Speaker 2: all the time, and it just makes you wonder, like
Speaker 2: these kids are are almost like raised for the slaughter
Speaker 2: in some way.
Speaker 1: I truthfully fucking agree with that shit man. Like everything
Speaker 1: you hear about Hollywood and their weirdness, weird scenes, yes,
Speaker 1: everything is just inverted. They're all Satanists. They invert every
Speaker 1: generational Satanists, and they are born into that lifestyle.
Speaker 3: Like for real, well, if you're constantly you're growing up
Speaker 3: in it, how would you know it's abnormal?
Speaker 2: You wouldn't. That's the thing. That's how they create general
Speaker 2: generational Satanism. Because I mean, I've had this conversation with
Speaker 2: my husband before, and I was raised in a Christian
Speaker 2: family and my grandpa was a pastor, and that's always
Speaker 2: felt like home for me. But if I was raised
Speaker 2: in like India, would I still have like those core
Speaker 2: values probably not. So it's like whatever you're raised in,
Speaker 2: that's your norm, that's what you consider to be your lifestyle,
Speaker 2: and unless you get older and you're like fuck this,
Speaker 2: which in most cases when people start talking about it,
Speaker 2: they get like removed. I'm pretty sure Charlie Sheen's or
Speaker 2: not Charlie Sheen, Charlie what is his last name? I'm
Speaker 2: fucking maybe it was, I don't know, but somebody was
Speaker 2: talking about like these sex parties and stuff and all
Speaker 2: these little kids and shit, and if you look at them,
Speaker 2: it's the same ones that were on like the Disney
Speaker 2: Channel and shit that aren't look like crackheads. Now, Like
Speaker 2: that one kid from that So Raven Have you seen him?
Speaker 1: Was he the one that was like the main character
Speaker 1: in that Nicola documentary about the fucking the guy I
Speaker 1: was groping all the kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah that guy.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 2: Literally, like the Nickelodeon stars and like these Disney stars,
Speaker 2: they grow up and they're clearly fucking disturbed, and like
Speaker 2: when they start talking about this shit, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: they're just a crackhead.
Speaker 5: Look at Amanda Bynes, you know.
Speaker 2: She dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like, is she off the rocker?
Speaker 2: Because of the childhood she had or is she y
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like it's so easy to dismiss
Speaker 2: them because they grow up and they're crazy, and they're like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy's clearly fucked up. Let's not listen to a
Speaker 2: single thing he has to say. But I can't remember
Speaker 2: the guy's name from That's So Raven. But I used
Speaker 2: to watch that show all the time. You know, even
Speaker 2: Raven is kind of weird these days. I don't know
Speaker 2: if she's a lesbian or what. But I saw her
Speaker 2: on some kind of podcast talking about it, and she
Speaker 2: was like, I feel like the only reason why people
Speaker 2: watched that So Raven is because I had big boobs
Speaker 2: and I always felt like I was sexualized, and they
Speaker 2: always put me in outfits that like showed off my
Speaker 2: body and this and that. But I wonder if, like
Speaker 2: she told like the one hundred percent honest truth, there
Speaker 2: was probably a lot more than just putting her in
Speaker 2: tight pants, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same with who's the other actress? One's super skinny?
Speaker 1: Now Ariana Grande or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh, she looks like a skeletor she looks like one
Speaker 2: of those things in Harry Potter that pulls the carriage
Speaker 2: like she looks. Yeah, And I was trying to like
Speaker 2: look out an old well and she got started on
Speaker 2: Nickelodeon too, but I was looking at an old picture
Speaker 2: of her versus like now, and they've almost I'm kind
Speaker 2: of into this thing where I feel like people almost
Speaker 2: get like swapped out, or they get or like they're
Speaker 2: just a character in multiple people play them. Right, And
Speaker 2: the person that I see now almost doesn't even like
Speaker 2: look like the same human being as the one that
Speaker 2: was on the Nickelodeon channel. It makes me wonder if
Speaker 2: it's even her. Probably not man like Eminem, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, speaking of Eminem, you know how they I
Speaker 1: was gonna mention this when we get going, but Mass
Speaker 1: mentioned now. But you know, everyone like these mk ultra characters,
Speaker 1: they dye their hair blonde, which is basically, you know,
Speaker 1: signifying they've been mk ultraed.
Speaker 2: Whatever, right, the bleach blonde.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Marilyn Monroe because she she dyed her hair blonde,
Speaker 1: and you know, she was obviously like a beta sex kitten.
Speaker 1: Some thinking, well, was is Eminem a beta sex kitten?
Speaker 1: Did they program them to be a beta sex has
Speaker 1: to be British accent.
Speaker 2: It has to be doing something in that capacity, because,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, when you see someone come out with
Speaker 2: this bleach blonde, like completely alter ego type shit, it
Speaker 2: signals like there's somebody else in there and it's not.
Speaker 2: And then they get like all these identities and they
Speaker 2: have multiple different names that they go by, and it's
Speaker 2: not just Eminem and Marilyn Monroe, which both of them
Speaker 2: changed their names, but Lady Gaga is one that sticks
Speaker 2: out to me a lot. And if you watch Like
Speaker 2: a Star is Born, that movie kind of almost shows
Speaker 2: you her fucked up life in a way because she
Speaker 2: was always a brunette and she always like said she
Speaker 2: got made fun of for having a big nose and shit,
Speaker 2: and it was like this hard luck story. And then
Speaker 2: she is what she is now. I so I was
Speaker 2: looking at her bone structure, honestly, and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: It's awfully masculine. And then there's interviews of her and
Speaker 2: they're like, well, people think you're trans, and she's like,
Speaker 2: so what if I am. So it's not like she's
Speaker 2: denying it, but I guess that's right. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: so many layers to it. The bleach blonde hair for
Speaker 2: me is definitely one of them because Marilyn but also
Speaker 2: other people.
Speaker 1: I think that signifies like, all right, they're controlled for sure.
Speaker 1: We got them under our control. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: like telling everybody, yeah, we got them, Sarah.
Speaker 3: They kind of begs the question like when you hit
Speaker 3: think of like old interviews where, for example, Britney Spears
Speaker 3: was talking about preserving her virginity and everybody like laughed
Speaker 3: and mocked it in the press because they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's just ridiculous. What if she was legitimately telling the truth?
Speaker 3: That was just the altar that she was in was
Speaker 3: the pure I need to be a good person. I'm
Speaker 3: on television alter at the time, Like thinking back, what
Speaker 3: if she was not lying, like if she was legitimately
Speaker 3: pathologically lying because she had these entirely separated personalities. Yeah,
Speaker 3: even back.
Speaker 2: Then, I think she's always had completely separated personalities because
Speaker 2: there was I didn't know about it, but I guess
Speaker 2: there's this interview because my husband was telling me about
Speaker 2: it and he said, like somebody was interviewing her and
Speaker 2: she she like stopped talking right in the middle of
Speaker 2: an interview, and she was like strong Britney, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's the one I always think about when
Speaker 1: anyone talks about Brittany, Like that interview is so fucking weird.
Speaker 1: You can see her her brain is like fractured. She
Speaker 1: like stop talking and like talk to herself and she's
Speaker 1: like going through these weird emotions where she's about to
Speaker 1: cry and she's like, no, strong Britney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, strong Britney.
Speaker 1: So fucking weird.
Speaker 3: Not found strong Brittany and not found right.
Speaker 2: But she started out on the mixing the Mickey mouse
Speaker 2: Club with you know a lot of people who ended
Speaker 2: up kind of being weird later on, and even Christina Aguilera,
Speaker 2: she's got the bleach blonde thing going and she's got
Speaker 2: started on the Mickey mouse Club.
Speaker 1: What's up with Britney Spearso, because like she has like
Speaker 1: a gap in her teeth.
Speaker 2: Now she's got a totally different And people need to
Speaker 2: look at these videos because I'm no you know it
Speaker 2: is in detective or anything, but these videos are old
Speaker 2: what she's posting, and if you go back, she'll have
Speaker 2: like a video in the same bathroom from a vacation
Speaker 2: from She'll post something from like six months ago, and
Speaker 2: then if you scroll down. Like last year, she posted
Speaker 2: a video in the same bathroom in the same outfit
Speaker 2: and the caption is like, Oh, I love being on
Speaker 2: vacation in Mexico or whatever, and it'll be something from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. But she just posted a video a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago in the same bathroom with the
Speaker 2: same outfit. That is weird, and it's like a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks old. So these these videos, it's like they
Speaker 2: take clusters of them and they save them kind of
Speaker 2: like to release later on, and she'll be in similar
Speaker 2: areas in similar outfits, if not the same outfit, and
Speaker 2: they just keep recycling these same like ten videos over
Speaker 2: and over again of her, and the ones that are
Speaker 2: new are the most disturbing ones because she's like, I'm
Speaker 2: a kinder gotten a, yeah, I got like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is this?
Speaker 1: What is happening with that? So why do you think
Speaker 1: they do that like these weird times?
Speaker 3: Noh does that somebody who's holding someone hostage and wants
Speaker 3: everyone to think they're okay?
Speaker 1: Why do you think they would do that with like
Speaker 1: these time frames like keep people just confused. Like all
Speaker 1: that video, everyone thinks it's new, but it was like
Speaker 1: from ten years ago whatever. But it's like, what do
Speaker 1: you think the point of that would be.
Speaker 2: I don't think people are even paying attention because I
Speaker 2: look at the comment section on every single one of these.
Speaker 2: If I notice it's just like a recycled video. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: she was just in this bathroom like a few months ago,
Speaker 2: and she said she was on vacation. Why is she
Speaker 2: in that same bathroom again, like right now posting something new.
Speaker 2: And I'll look at the comments section and it's all
Speaker 2: a bunch of yes, Queen, go Britney, you're the best, Brittany,
Speaker 2: we love you, Britney's the best. And I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: there's somebody that's commenting on it the same type of
Speaker 2: shit that I'm thinking, but I don't see anything like
Speaker 2: that in the comment section. When I look, it's just
Speaker 2: a bunch of yas, Queen go Britney. And you know
Speaker 2: how the I mean the whole wear a yellow shirt
Speaker 2: if you're in trouble and shit, I think that was
Speaker 2: all just a big fucking don't. I don't know about
Speaker 2: that because they were like, Britney, if you're in trouble,
Speaker 2: wear a yellow shirt. And then she'd posts like a
Speaker 2: video and a yellow shirt, and I just don't know
Speaker 2: about that. If there, she's not been dead for a
Speaker 2: long time and they're just fucking with us to some level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when she's up in the club, the all seeing
Speaker 3: eyes on her, Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean I just never know. We can't trust anything we see, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Katy Perry being Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: do you think about Katy Perry in these terms of
Speaker 1: talking about MK ultra shit?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, she definitely plays a big part in it.
Speaker 2: I preci only think that she's some type of dark
Speaker 2: occult is just based off the lyrics in some of
Speaker 2: her songs like dark Horse and shit like that, but
Speaker 2: in some of the imagery actually in her music videos
Speaker 2: kind of gives her ass away. But people, were you
Speaker 2: gonna ask me about people thinking she's John Benet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, I think that's incredibly ridiculous. But
Speaker 2: I have my own theories on John Beney, and you know,
Speaker 2: it is a theory what I have, and so I
Speaker 2: could be incredibly wrong about this, and I don't want to,
Speaker 2: like Diana Hill or anything.
Speaker 5: I'd be open to suggestions.
Speaker 1: But let's hear it. Let's well, because I also don't
Speaker 1: think Katy Perry is John Benney. I do not think
Speaker 1: that at all.
Speaker 2: Well good, so we're, you know, on the same page
Speaker 2: with that. In the book that I was talking to
Speaker 2: you about before we started recording Program to Kill Uh,
Speaker 2: there is a chapter in the back of the book
Speaker 2: all about John Beney and it's at absolutely incredible. It
Speaker 2: blew my mind. The guy who wrote this book, Dave McGowan,
Speaker 2: he did so much research looking into the John Bennet
Speaker 2: Ramsey case. And her parents were into some type of
Speaker 2: weird fucking eyes wide shut parties and they probably raped
Speaker 2: her to death and then panicked and had to come
Speaker 2: up with a cover story to explain why they had
Speaker 2: a dead kid on their hands. A lot of the
Speaker 2: pageantry videos are completely fake. The pageants never existed, So
Speaker 2: how do we have all these videos and shit of
Speaker 2: her dressed up like this? And then you find out
Speaker 2: there's this whole underground pageant world where people pretty much
Speaker 2: auction off their kids in these sex rings, and the
Speaker 2: pageantry part of it is like the the I don't know,
Speaker 2: It's like, have you ever watched Taken with Liam Neeson
Speaker 2: where they pranced the girls out and they're like this
Speaker 2: one's a virgin, this one likes to ride horses, this one,
Speaker 2: and then they like make bids on them and like
Speaker 2: people buy them. That's the same shit. Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 2: much like an auction. And so the book again Program
Speaker 2: to Kill It outlines a lot of this dark pageantry stuff,
Speaker 2: and in particular with John Benet, since if you go
Speaker 2: to look to find these pageants, they never existed. And
Speaker 2: then there's even someone who quoted John beney uh, and
Speaker 2: she had like a little friend over or something and
Speaker 2: her friend was like, oh, John Benet, you have so
Speaker 2: many trophies and she was like, well, actually they're my mother's.
Speaker 2: And that comment never really made sense to me until
Speaker 2: I read Program to Kill and I got to thinking
Speaker 2: about how Patsy Ramsey, the mom, she was actually in
Speaker 2: legitimate pageants her entire life, and so yeah, she had
Speaker 2: a shit ton of trophies and she like displayed them
Speaker 2: as if they were John Benet's. But even John Mandat
Speaker 2: told her little friend, she was like, actually, no, those
Speaker 2: are my mom's trophies. So she wasn't actually in the
Speaker 2: pageant system. She was like, makes sense, right, And the
Speaker 2: autopsy report the weirdness, like they pulled some of her
Speaker 2: pediatrician stuff from her from her doctor's office, and it
Speaker 2: all kinds of adds up to be that her parents
Speaker 2: were chronically molesting her or loaning her out to be molested,
Speaker 2: and this Christmas party was probably like one of these
Speaker 2: eyes wide shut parties, and.
Speaker 5: This something went wrong.
Speaker 2: She had head trauma, her vaginal opening was twice the
Speaker 2: size of what a girl her age should be. There
Speaker 2: was clear signs of you know, rape and all kinds
Speaker 2: of weird shit. And I think they panicked because they
Speaker 2: actually killed her. I mean, there was stun gun marks
Speaker 2: all over her body, and I think they panicked and
Speaker 2: came up with like this cover story so they wouldn't
Speaker 2: have to say what really happened. I mean, the outside
Speaker 2: intruder theory, if people are still on board with that
Speaker 2: at this point, they have absolutely no idea what they're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: It's absolute bullshit unless that outside intruder was known to
Speaker 1: them and let in the house. Like right, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no fucking way. The broken window in the basement, No,
Speaker 1: that thing was broken for a long time. There are
Speaker 1: cobwebs everywhere. It's like nobody went through that fucking thing.
Speaker 5: Nobody, Dad, that fucking thing.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Jean Ramsey even he was like, yeah, I broke that window.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it wasn't fixed yet, but that
Speaker 1: was Yeah. Even he admits that.
Speaker 2: And they keep bringing it back up. I just saw
Speaker 2: something on Facebook like two days ago about John Ramsey
Speaker 2: saying there was a big break in the case. I saw,
Speaker 2: or maybe Colby did, I don't remember. I saw something
Speaker 2: around like Christmas time of them saying that they had
Speaker 2: a big break in the case, and then it kind
Speaker 2: of died off, and then like three days ago I
Speaker 2: saw it again on Facebook. Big break in the John
Speaker 2: Benet Ramsey case, says John Ramsey, and it's can we
Speaker 2: not put this to rest? Like they're never gonna find
Speaker 2: out who did it, and they keep resensationalizing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: Dude, unless they're gonna come out and say, yep, we
Speaker 2: did it, I don't want to hear anything about a
Speaker 2: big break in the case. This is ridiculous. Well, they
Speaker 2: never get to it, right, It's like, well, Jesus, this
Speaker 2: is soon to be disclosed, big break in the case.
Speaker 2: And then like seven months go by and they're still
Speaker 2: not telling you what the fucking big break in the
Speaker 2: case was. But something else that's weird, is you know
Speaker 2: that that missing girl, Natalie Halloway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So after John Benney's mom dies of whatever type of
Speaker 2: cancer shit she had, John Ramsey goes on to to
Speaker 2: date and then and then married. Yeah, Natalie Holloway's mom.
Speaker 1: That's fucking right, dude.
Speaker 2: It's like they run in small circles. I'm sure they
Speaker 2: had a lot to talk about. They both have mysteriously
Speaker 2: dead and missing daughters. And that was John Benney was
Speaker 2: actually the second mysteriously dead daughter of John Ramsey. His
Speaker 2: first daughter died weird too, really young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean an alleged car accident.
Speaker 2: An alleged Yeah, she got like Princess Diana or something
Speaker 2: like that, like some weird, bizarre car accident. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you have already one dead daughter and then your
Speaker 2: young baby daughter dies like this, the brother of John
Speaker 2: Benay is a total fucking weirdo. And then, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: he goes on to marry someone who also has a
Speaker 2: tragic missing daughter and nobody ever knows what happened to her.
Speaker 5: That what a resume, you know.
Speaker 2: That's how many people in your life do you know
Speaker 2: who could say some shit like that. Not many.
Speaker 3: I'm sure coincidence.
Speaker 2: Jackpot two dead, bizarrely dead daughters and go on to
Speaker 2: date and marry someone else with a bizarrely missing and
Speaker 2: assumed dead daughter. And you know her brother, the brother
Speaker 2: of John Benay. He's completely fucking weird. And yeah, that
Speaker 2: uh Doctor Phil interview is just ridiculous, dude, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean it just to me, there's this
Speaker 2: surface level agenda or narrative that they want everybody to buy,
Speaker 2: and they push that the hardest. Marilyn Monroe took pills.
Speaker 2: I know you've listened to my episode on that. They've
Speaker 2: they've jammed that down everybody's throat. You know, John Bena Ramsey,
Speaker 2: we never know. We could never figure out what happened
Speaker 2: to her easpend five minutes looking into it, and it's
Speaker 2: abundantly clear what happened to her, abundantly clear, Right, It's just, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Who actually believes that?
Speaker 2: I think people.
Speaker 3: The really noticeable thing to me about the old John
Speaker 3: Benay Ramsey reporting thinking back on it, is that it
Speaker 3: was the first like murder mystery that I can think
Speaker 3: of where the story wasn't really about the details. Of
Speaker 3: the case, it was more about talking about the personalities involved.
Speaker 3: It's like, looking back, it almost seemed more like it
Speaker 3: was a public mockery of the fact that nothing was
Speaker 3: really going to be done about it, but they were
Speaker 3: going to talk about it and constantly shove it back
Speaker 3: in the news without ever really revealing anything new. The
Speaker 3: fact that they're doing it to this day with this
Speaker 3: whole new revelations from William from not damnit Ray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's just totally I mean, to me,
Speaker 2: it's laughable because once you I hope you guys really do.
Speaker 3: Read it might actually be something new.
Speaker 2: Yeah right. I mean, there are certain things that I
Speaker 2: take for granted that people should just know about and
Speaker 2: be on board with. This is one of them, because
Speaker 2: I've done two different episodes on John Benney and then
Speaker 2: I've covered it on other people's show, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I learned a little bit something different every time
Speaker 2: I cover. It's kind of the same with Maryland. But
Speaker 2: the other day I was kind of I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was like a heated argument, but I do
Speaker 2: become impassioned at times. But I just take for granted,
Speaker 2: like people should just be open minded about shit. Like,
Speaker 2: what if the earth is flat? I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys sit on either side of the fence on that.
Speaker 2: But when I hear certain things.
Speaker 1: I cannot say it. I can't say for certain either way.
Speaker 2: Well sure, but I mean like, when I hear certain things,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that could be possible. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that we're lied to about literally
Speaker 2: everything exactly. But sometimes I forget though that not everybody
Speaker 2: is so easily yet convinced or like, not everyone is
Speaker 2: just so open minded about certain things.
Speaker 3: Well inter ruminate in the first place, there's yeah, a
Speaker 3: lot you run into a lot of just brick walls
Speaker 3: as soon as you talk about anything outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just sometimes I forget because I talk
Speaker 2: to so many podcasters like you guys, almost on a
Speaker 2: daily basis, and I have a lot of interesting conversations
Speaker 2: with people who are readily able to accept the information
Speaker 2: that I present. And you know, I take for granted
Speaker 2: that I should just be able to walk into any
Speaker 2: room and be like, you know, because the earth is
Speaker 2: flat and it's ran by Satanic pedophiles and we're all
Speaker 2: going to die, and you know, everybody knows this. Duh,
Speaker 2: and like sometimes I forget, like I hear it is
Speaker 2: on board with.
Speaker 1: That, I am in the same boat. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm meeting someone new. Yeah, it's like I got
Speaker 1: to just hold back what I really think to get
Speaker 1: a feeling for this person, to see where I can
Speaker 1: lead this conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can legitimately upset people, yeah, to the
Speaker 2: point where like they won't even want to talk to
Speaker 2: you anymore. And I forget that sometimes.
Speaker 1: I had this conversation with my girlfriend last night because
Speaker 1: I made a post like maybe a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago, trying to find a guest for the show,
Speaker 1: and it was about Sandy Hook. And I literally just
Speaker 1: made a post in one of those podcast guest thing
Speaker 1: connections whatever, and I was like, Hello, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: for anybody who has any information about Sandy Hook, and
Speaker 1: I just want to have a, you know, a conversation.
Speaker 1: I said, nothing leaning toward any you know, definitive way
Speaker 1: of where I had myself in it, right, And the
Speaker 1: hatred I got just for posting that was phenomenal. I
Speaker 1: got somebody fucking piece of shit, blah blah blah. It's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for someone to have a conversation with
Speaker 1: you talked about.
Speaker 2: Right, Right, It's like you forget that people aren't necessarily
Speaker 2: just on board as much as I literally take it
Speaker 2: for granted. Sometimes I'll be in the middle of like
Speaker 2: making a presentation that I'm gonna do on my show,
Speaker 2: and I'll stop in the middle of like writing something,
Speaker 2: and I'll question myself, like, I don't know if people
Speaker 2: are ready to actually hear this shit, or maybe I
Speaker 2: should rephrase this in a different way because I don't
Speaker 2: want to be dogmatic about stuff. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like I take for granted, like come on, like
Speaker 2: we should know this basic stuff by now, you know,
Speaker 2: the trying to argue with somebody who has seen the
Speaker 2: original moon landing video that that's the fakest shit I've
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life, Like, how do you argue
Speaker 2: with somebody about that if they believe it? You can't, Right,
Speaker 2: It's like it looks like the worst B movie I've
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. And there's you know, how
Speaker 2: do you get somebody who believes that's real on board
Speaker 2: with child molestation on a global scale.
Speaker 1: For someone who doesn't think that child molestation even occurs,
Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, Yo, dude, where have you been
Speaker 1: living man? Because you are living a sheltered life. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the crazy thing is that people even
Speaker 3: equivocate the two. I feel like there's a lot more
Speaker 3: concrete evidence to the point where you don't really need
Speaker 3: to speculate much.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Man, It's like it's like if you're gonna it's like
Speaker 3: if you're going to find a lie and at least
Speaker 3: find it on the one that you that there's you know,
Speaker 3: reasonable doubt about.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In a Program to Kill the first like five chapters
Speaker 2: are all about pedophilia, and it's an unfortunate topic that
Speaker 2: people shy away from, I think because it's yeah, ross,
Speaker 2: but it's definitely important.
Speaker 1: The average person doesn't want to talk about pedophilia and
Speaker 1: child molestation, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, just over Sundays runch.
Speaker 1: No, not really, but it's like that's what I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. I want to talk about the real
Speaker 1: shit over my fucking eggs, Benedict.
Speaker 3: They want to think it's relegated. The people that are
Speaker 3: shunned and you know, like socially like never accepted at
Speaker 3: all and not integral parts of society and pillars of
Speaker 3: the community and probably people they know from on the television,
Speaker 3: et cetera. Yeah, they don't want to think of them
Speaker 3: that those are their herolebrities. They can't be doing the
Speaker 3: bad things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like respected politicians. It's always like celebrities and
Speaker 2: respected politicians that people don't want to hear about doing
Speaker 2: this stuff. I covered in this series that I have
Speaker 2: on my show. It's called the Pedaphocracy, and then I
Speaker 2: did another one called Uncle Sam Wants Your Children. And
Speaker 2: there are documented, documented cases you know.
Speaker 1: Too.
Speaker 2: In particular would be the McMartin preschool, which I talk
Speaker 2: about a lot. Anybody can google that case and find
Speaker 2: plethora of information about it. And then the Presidio Daycare,
Speaker 2: which was on you know it was I believe it
Speaker 2: was army. Don't get me to lie in Army base
Speaker 2: or something like this. And then there's the Franklin scandal
Speaker 2: with like the Republican Party being in charge of that shit.
Speaker 5: And these are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, these are all you know, documented cases, people
Speaker 2: who went to trial. Their trial. You can find notes
Speaker 2: and all the information about it. And I just didn't
Speaker 2: really hear a lot of people wanting to talk about
Speaker 2: it or knowing about it at all.
Speaker 5: And it's the realist shiit.
Speaker 2: In particular, the mc martin one was like the longest
Speaker 2: running trial in US history for for like a long time,
Speaker 2: or maybe it still is, and I think it still is. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like, how come nobody knows about that? I mean,
Speaker 2: preschool age children were coming home with like severe injuries
Speaker 2: let's just say around Genitalia, right, And I guess it
Speaker 2: was like hundreds of them were coming home and people
Speaker 2: who were supposed to testify end up dying before they
Speaker 2: can get to the You know.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it the first mother who actually made started like
Speaker 1: making a stink about it in a good way. She
Speaker 1: was like ready, she filed complaints. It was it was
Speaker 1: going through the law or the system of the courts,
Speaker 1: and then she ended up dying of like got really
Speaker 1: drunk and shot herself or something.
Speaker 2: But itide Yeah, so that her name was Judy, and
Speaker 2: you're right, she was the mother of the first kid
Speaker 2: that came out and started making accusations, and she took
Speaker 2: her kid to the doctor and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's some definite evidence here of sodomy, I guess would
Speaker 2: be the way to say it. And she was supposed
Speaker 2: to testify in like a week or something like that,
Speaker 2: and she showed up dead and mysteriously and then everybody
Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, she was an alcoholic and
Speaker 2: she was a fucking asshole, and uh, none of those
Speaker 2: things were true about her until she found out her
Speaker 2: kid was getting raped at school. And you know, maybe
Speaker 2: she was having a drink here and there, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody would have called her an alcoholic.
Speaker 5: But that's what they blamed.
Speaker 3: Right, alcoholism. GEU right?
Speaker 1: I mean, and you have fucking good old boy Thomas
Speaker 1: or Michael Akino who like countersued them and won.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, for defamation of his name, even though the
Speaker 2: kids feeling real, right, I mean, like the kids knew
Speaker 2: things about him that they shouldn't know. They knew details
Speaker 2: about his house that would would be impossible to know
Speaker 2: unless they had been in there. And he still gets off, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they called him the Colonel, and like he gets off
Speaker 2: scott free and ends up countersuing the parents because he's like, well,
Speaker 2: you guys are making me look bad, and you know,
Speaker 2: this is the world we live in. This is why
Speaker 2: it upsets me so much when I hear about cases
Speaker 2: like John Bennet, because it's so blatantly obvious to me
Speaker 2: that this is all part of a huge web, and
Speaker 2: it spans so far and it goes so deep. And
Speaker 2: you know, the Wonderland raids it's mentioned in Program to
Speaker 2: Kill It came up with like all this pedophilia stuff,
Speaker 2: like with mc martin and Presidio and I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think Franklin scandal, but for sure Presidio and
Speaker 2: mc martin they started running these Wonderland raids where they
Speaker 2: were busting a bunch of petals all over the place,
Speaker 2: and a lot of them had images and maybe even
Speaker 2: videos of John Bennet on their computers and shit. So
Speaker 2: she was part of that. And I just think that
Speaker 2: it's also it's intricately interwoven with each other, just because
Speaker 2: it happens like she was in Colorado and a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff like Presidio Mick Martin went down in California,
Speaker 2: and you would be like, well, they happened in like
Speaker 2: two completely different It doesn't matter, Like it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. There was have did you guys listen
Speaker 2: buy any chance to a podcast called The Clown and
Speaker 2: the Candy Man.
Speaker 1: No. I've been meaning too because that's like an eight
Speaker 1: part series.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's really good. It's like John Wayne Gacy
Speaker 2: and this other pedophile.
Speaker 1: Dudel Dean Coral.
Speaker 2: Now they were operating. This is just a good example here.
Speaker 2: They were operating. John Wayne Gacy was in Chicago, right,
Speaker 2: and Dean Coral was in Texas, I want to say,
Speaker 2: and they were construed into the same pedophile ring and
Speaker 2: they were like publishing these I don't even know what
Speaker 2: to called magazines. I guess like it was like Pedo
Speaker 2: USA or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, I know what you're talking.
Speaker 1: We just did it. We just did a two part
Speaker 1: series on snuff films and all of this stuff got
Speaker 1: brought up in that stuff. But it's like a pedophile
Speaker 1: information something pie for sure exchange and it.
Speaker 2: Was circulated and if you were in the know, you
Speaker 2: knew how to get a hold of this thing. But
Speaker 2: it's like, so what he was in Texas and Gaysey
Speaker 2: was in Chicago. They literally had common associates. This guy
Speaker 2: named Philip Pasky, he was working for the He was
Speaker 2: working for both. I want to say it was Dean Coral,
Speaker 2: but maybe maybe yeah, I think it was, and Gacy
Speaker 2: and then there was this other guy named John Norman,
Speaker 2: John Sherman, John Norman, something like that.
Speaker 5: And he also knew Philip Pasky.
Speaker 1: He was on the payroll they had pays steps. Sure
Speaker 1: he was there, you go, yeah, and then he ends
Speaker 1: up with Dean Coral.
Speaker 5: All connected, dude, for sure, it is.
Speaker 1: It is fucking connected.
Speaker 2: That's why when anytime I see something like that about
Speaker 2: a kid this or you know, I saw this thing
Speaker 2: on Facebook the other day where these moms, you know,
Speaker 2: face how Facebook moms are, they were all getting up
Speaker 2: in arms, right because their kids were coming home and
Speaker 2: talking about how their teachers were putting these patches on them.
Speaker 2: And it turns out that this one teacher in particular
Speaker 2: was putting these like sleepy time patches on these kids
Speaker 2: so they'd like pass out, and God only knows what
Speaker 2: they were doing after that fucked up, right, and all
Speaker 2: these Facebook bombs were like starting this group to rail
Speaker 2: against the school because they were like, our kids are
Speaker 2: being you know, they're being subjected to who knows what
Speaker 2: after they get these sleepy time patches put on them.
Speaker 2: And uh, the kids that mc martin said, they'd drink
Speaker 2: some kind of sleepy time liquid and you know, if
Speaker 2: you think it's stopped in the nineties, you'd be fucking
Speaker 2: wrong as fuck. I'm sure it's still going on, and
Speaker 2: they've just found more. They've just found better ways of
Speaker 2: pulling it off, because now they don't even have to
Speaker 2: introduce like a liquid into the body. They can just
Speaker 2: stick a patch on your kid's ass and they'll pass
Speaker 2: out somewhere and god only knows what.
Speaker 1: Oh god, dude. Yeah, kids like, oh, teacher, teacher, he's
Speaker 1: he fell asleep. I don't know, so that she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, emergency, everyone go inside, I'll take care of this.
Speaker 3: Nurse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the whole nurse. You know, they're all fucking
Speaker 1: part of it too. And you know, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, in terms of Jean Bonnet Ramsey, is
Speaker 1: that they're the main photographer of theirs. What was his name,
Speaker 1: Randall Dewet Simmons Simon's. He was then later arrested for
Speaker 1: all sorts of uh child sex abuse material.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was, Yeah, he was. And so.
Speaker 5: That's that's one of the things that I used to.
Speaker 2: Get people on board with the fake pageant stuff, because
Speaker 2: if those photos were being used for anything other than
Speaker 2: just headshots. I guess that's what they were calling him.
Speaker 2: It makes everything else make more sense why they were
Speaker 2: taking videos and getting her all dressed up and doing
Speaker 2: all this shit tour. And there were cases in this
Speaker 2: underground pageant ring, not with John Benet, but I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it couldn't be where they put like contacts in
Speaker 2: their eyes and they get their teeth capped and they
Speaker 2: get there they have like plastic surgery at a very
Speaker 2: young age to like emphasize certain features and shit, And
Speaker 2: a lot of people will say, like, well, John Benney
Speaker 2: could possibly not have ever existed, because every picture I
Speaker 2: see of her she looks different or like she's got
Speaker 2: a different eye color, or she's got this or that.
Speaker 2: And my only argument to that would be she's been
Speaker 2: in this pageantry thing since she was an infant. They
Speaker 2: are known for putting contacts in their eyes and making
Speaker 2: their physical appearance match whatever the person who is interested
Speaker 2: in her wants. So that's not a new phenomenon.
Speaker 1: And I know you've seen this. Let me just share
Speaker 1: this because it's just so un irving. I don't know
Speaker 1: if can you guys see this? Mm hmm, yeah, that picture?
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is that supposed to like represent
Speaker 1: like why are you taking that picture? For those who
Speaker 1: can't see, it's literally just her standing in front of
Speaker 1: presumably her dad. You can't tell you that, you can't
Speaker 1: see who it is, but it's like her face is
Speaker 1: right there at like penis crotch level, crotch level and belt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, was her hand up there?
Speaker 2: And you can see like she wears more makeup than.
Speaker 3: I do, and she's five and she's got that creepy,
Speaker 3: dead eyed model look on her face.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and that picture he just showed of her
Speaker 2: underwear is like part of the whole crime scene thing
Speaker 2: that nobody talks about because they found semen on her underwear.
Speaker 2: But somehow they still go with like, well, she wasn't
Speaker 2: actually molested. We don't know where that DNA came from. Also,
Speaker 2: there was blood found on her underwear, but they go, well,
Speaker 2: maybe somebody at the sweatshop in China who packaged the
Speaker 2: underw wear got a paper and blood on it. A
Speaker 2: little bit. This is literally the shit that.
Speaker 1: They say, Look at this. I don't understand why there's
Speaker 1: a big rip right in a crotch of the pantas
Speaker 1: h Who Fuck's.
Speaker 5: That about well, and if you look at.
Speaker 1: Them, fuck is that.
Speaker 3: That's why they call it coincidence theorism, because it's actually
Speaker 3: harder to believe than the conspiracy if you really look
Speaker 3: into it or analyze it.
Speaker 5: Right, she's got it's it's like she pissed her pants.
Speaker 2: You would think that a kid with this type of
Speaker 2: stuff going on, just with the underwear, they would be
Speaker 2: able to say for sure that this was this was
Speaker 2: like an abuse, type of rape, type of sexual assault death.
Speaker 2: But they they always screwed around it. They say they
Speaker 2: can't explain the DNA, They don't know where it came from.
Speaker 2: Maybe it came from the fucking factory that packaged the underwear.
Speaker 2: They say, all this stuff, but it still doesn't explain
Speaker 2: the blood and the jis and the pee and the
Speaker 2: stun gun mar.
Speaker 3: In the I mean it just the stun gun marks
Speaker 3: in particular, right, So the I.
Speaker 1: Always hear they find foreign DNA, whatever materials whatever. Now
Speaker 1: do they ever say it was ejaculate? Do they ever
Speaker 1: say it was sperm?
Speaker 2: Well, in Program to Kill it does, okay, but that
Speaker 2: all the notes from the original autopsy report were confiscated
Speaker 2: and never released. And then there was like a severely
Speaker 2: redacted form that was released to the public with a
Speaker 2: bunch of you know what the redacted ones look like
Speaker 2: with stuff blanked out and marked out, and.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so like the Jeffrey Epstein book that the
Speaker 1: White House fools.
Speaker 3: Got so stupid, just got one for the Epstein files.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful. The most beautiful part was like, you know,
Speaker 3: we've all seen those documents already without that grap.
Speaker 1: One that just garbage.
Speaker 2: Well, I got one that was talking about MK Ultra
Speaker 2: and every other word is blanked out. And I said
Speaker 2: that because Trump was signing that executive order whatever, there
Speaker 2: goes a stun gun mark right there, a mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But he was like, oh, the truth is gonna come out.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna know. Let me sign this so we know
Speaker 2: what really happened to JFK and RFK. And I told somebody,
Speaker 2: I was like, first off, we're never gonna see that shit,
Speaker 2: and even if we do see it, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: in such a severely redacted form that it's just gonna
Speaker 2: be like JFK blank, Texas blank, Cia blank.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna nobody's gonna get shipped out of that.
Speaker 3: It'll be like MK you blank lt blank r A
Speaker 3: blank didn't blank do blank blank blank it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just heard Yeah. I was listening to
Speaker 1: just I don't know what podcast it was last night,
Speaker 1: but the beginning of it started out with an interview
Speaker 1: that Trump gave, like I think before his first run
Speaker 1: for presidency. I think it was I think it was
Speaker 1: right before his about to be elected or something like that.
Speaker 1: But the lady asked him, would you release the JFK files.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, definitely. Would you release nine eleven files?
Speaker 1: Oh I totally would. Would you release the Epstein files?
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I would, And then she
Speaker 1: goes on to talk a little bit and then he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I probably wouldn't. Really, I'd have to think
Speaker 1: about the Epstein ones. Though. It's like why why would
Speaker 1: you have to think about that one, dude? And I
Speaker 1: have these I have documents that have him in the
Speaker 1: fucking court filings. I forget it wasn't you Frey, I
Speaker 1: forget her name, but she was like the first ones
Speaker 1: that really started filing court documents. But Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: listed in there. And she goes on to say like
Speaker 1: he made her like jerk him off. Oh sure, and
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, we're going to get their styles, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: oh wait, national security issues, national security issues. So I
Speaker 1: went and made a post like, you guys know what
Speaker 1: these national security issues are, right, The President of the
Speaker 1: United States is the national security issue. He's implicated in this. No,
Speaker 1: he's not.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, dude, that's my thing. That's my thing is like,
Speaker 2: I don't know where you guys sit on the political
Speaker 2: end of things, but I trust zero politicians zero.
Speaker 1: And I hate them all.
Speaker 2: I mean, some of the people who even listen to
Speaker 2: my show. I'm sure they'd love it if I would
Speaker 2: come out and be like, oh, I love Trump so much.
Speaker 2: He just gets my dick card, Like, I'm sure they'd
Speaker 2: love that, But I can't. There's no possible way, Like
Speaker 2: no one if I've been if I could get anything
Speaker 2: through anyone's mind, it's that you should trust no politician ever.
Speaker 2: You should never And and Donald Trump was friends with
Speaker 2: this guy who was involved in the fucking Franklin scandal.
Speaker 2: Which guy his name was Roy roy Cone. He was
Speaker 2: a prolific pedophile, and he had like, sure, dude, he
Speaker 2: was Yes, they were besties, they were tight, they were close.
Speaker 2: He also said he loves Diddy, and he also had
Speaker 2: he's on the fucking I don't know if he's on
Speaker 2: the flight logs or whatever, but he has pictures taken
Speaker 2: with Epstein, and uh, you know, I just don't understand
Speaker 2: why everybody's throwing that stuff out like they're completely oblivious
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, and he's just like our big savior.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a president turn more people into a
Speaker 2: fucking prophet with all these oh Trump's gonna do this,
Speaker 2: and Trump's gonna do that. He's turned people who were
Speaker 2: so against voting, they were like voting as a joke,
Speaker 2: I'll never vote. Donald Trump has turned people into profits
Speaker 2: and voters all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, It's utterly disgusting. It's just how well
Speaker 1: the in Washington has worked, how well MK Ultra has.
Speaker 2: Work, Dude one hundred.
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, I don't know people like us.
Speaker 1: We didn't fucking buy hook Line and Sinker. Why are
Speaker 1: we so special? Like how can we concede through all
Speaker 1: that bullshit? And these people who are older than us,
Speaker 1: who have had more experience with politicians lying to them,
Speaker 1: but they just like they buy it all. I don't
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't get it either.
Speaker 3: And they don't believe with their with their bodies. They
Speaker 3: believe with their words, but they're action in the show.
Speaker 3: They don't they did. It's for example, you know, if
Speaker 3: somebody says they believe in something and then they take
Speaker 3: actions to show her up against it. What they really
Speaker 3: believe is what they're taking action against, not what they say.
Speaker 3: Like you know if you say, oh, I feel safe,
Speaker 3: but then you go ahead and build walls around yourself.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's exactly what it is. I mean, for me,
Speaker 2: I have a mixed breed in my family, Like some
Speaker 2: people are super far radical right and some people are
Speaker 2: super far ridiculous left. And I still love him. They're
Speaker 2: my family obviously, but I just see how they've changed
Speaker 2: in the last since COVID, I'll say, And before COVID,
Speaker 2: my family structure was like, yeah, we have some differences,
Speaker 2: but like we all still get along and we're all
Speaker 2: still cool with each other. After COVID, there is like
Speaker 2: such a serious difference among us. I almost thought that
Speaker 2: my brother was going to like totally excommunicate me for
Speaker 2: a while because for whatever reason, he's gotten it into
Speaker 2: his mind that you know, vaccines are our savior, and
Speaker 2: he said he would he wasn't going to come to
Speaker 2: my wedding unless I got vaccinated. Aw fuck, And like
Speaker 2: he went totally, totally and he was never like that before.
Speaker 2: He just called me the other day and he was
Speaker 2: just railing on about anti vaxers and he said, you
Speaker 2: know what's next. We're all gonna get maisles and we're
Speaker 2: all gonna have to put signs on our doors that says,
Speaker 2: don't come, there's measles in here. Like holy, I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: they have weaponized illness in such a way that it's
Speaker 2: made people want to inject uh mysterious unknown liquids into
Speaker 2: their body. Yeah, and it just caused such a schism
Speaker 2: in my family because then there's like the far right
Speaker 2: ones who love Trump so much and they send me
Speaker 2: like Trump memes all the time. And one of them
Speaker 2: sent me this hoodie. They were like, oh, I gotta
Speaker 2: get this and it was a picture of Trump and
Speaker 2: it said Daddy's Home and.
Speaker 1: I just want.
Speaker 2: Dag and eat it. Like I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: going on in my.
Speaker 1: Family, dudees, because they're just the Yeah, they're just trumpies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I similar with my family. I mean, my dad just
Speaker 1: recently died two days after my birthday this year from
Speaker 1: the fucking shots. But you know, when all the COVID
Speaker 1: shit was happening, I told my family, do not take this.
Speaker 1: You don't know what this is. It takes like up
Speaker 1: to ten years at least to like find a quote
Speaker 1: unquote vaccine for something, right, this was just rushed through
Speaker 1: the system, like, you don't know what this is, don't
Speaker 1: get the shot. But then they went got all the
Speaker 1: shots sure, and it's like after this shit, Like I
Speaker 1: was always the conspiracy theorist of my family. I'm the
Speaker 1: youngest of three kids, and I've always been the black
Speaker 1: sheep because I don't trust the government, never have, never will.
Speaker 1: I don't trust the media, I never have, never will.
Speaker 1: And I always tried to tell my family these things,
Speaker 1: and they just scoff at me, laugh, Oh, you're just
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists. You're crazy. Yeah, And then COVID happens and
Speaker 1: every like they might. One of my sister is a nurse,
Speaker 1: so like she fucking realized what the fuck was happening,
Speaker 1: and then you know, my fucking dad went down, and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, wow, you know, you're fucking right. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now it's a little bit more respect. But it's like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be right because of these things,
Speaker 1: Like I hate the shit.
Speaker 3: I kind of dislike being right. Yeah, Like it sucks.
Speaker 3: I'm usually not I'm usually right about things. I'm not
Speaker 3: happy that I'm right about. Like it's not like I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here like, yeah, that's what you get, sucker. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: it sucks, right.
Speaker 2: And I feel like at some level that people should
Speaker 2: understand that we wouldn't come to them with these things
Speaker 2: unless we love them, because I would not go out
Speaker 2: of my way to waste my breath explaining to you
Speaker 2: all the reasons why you shouldn't do something unless I
Speaker 2: actually cared enough about you to do that, And they
Speaker 2: still come at you with how retarded you are, and
Speaker 2: it's it's strictly out of love why you're bringing it
Speaker 2: up whatsoever. And it's just it's kind of odd to me.
Speaker 2: And when the shots for strolled out, like with the
Speaker 2: COVID stuff, I'll well, I have something else to say
Speaker 2: about that, but I'll just say this. When the first
Speaker 2: the shots rolled out for COVID, and I was all
Speaker 2: telling my family and railing against it and being like
Speaker 2: it's gonna make your dicks fall off. I didn't know
Speaker 2: what was gonna happen. I was just making stuff up
Speaker 2: at that point. I was like, you're gonna fucking shrivel
Speaker 2: up and die and all this stuff. You're you're gonna
Speaker 2: get your legs amputated. I was just making up the
Speaker 2: craziest shit I could think of, just so they'd laugh
Speaker 2: but also listen to me. And they all went and
Speaker 2: got them and stuff, and so they all went and
Speaker 2: got them, and then I was just waiting for the
Speaker 2: other shoe to drop, like people I love more than
Speaker 2: anything in the world to just croak over and die,
Speaker 2: and nobody did. And like even the sickest ones of
Speaker 2: my family that I thought for sure we're just gonna
Speaker 2: like fall over dead the second they got it.
Speaker 5: Are are still like pillars of health.
Speaker 2: And I almost questioned myself, like what if I was wrong,
Speaker 2: and like this was just like a test run, and
Speaker 2: like what what if this was just all a big
Speaker 2: joke on us to see, you know, which ones would
Speaker 2: be resistant and which ones would bend over and take it.
Speaker 2: And then I started doing more research, and I've come
Speaker 2: to the conclusion that some people get a saline injection
Speaker 2: and some people get the real stuff, and you can
Speaker 2: tell which ones got the real stuff because they're not
Speaker 2: doing so hot right now or they're dead by now.
Speaker 2: So I mean, they really pulled a fast one on us.
Speaker 2: And I think they had to give some people sailine
Speaker 2: in order to make it look like the ones that
Speaker 2: got sick and fucked up and died were isolated events
Speaker 2: that were unrelated to the vaccine. They had to have
Speaker 2: like some control, you know, control group to study.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Plus, you had like five or six different companies making
Speaker 1: these quote unquote vaccines, and uh yeah, some bad you know,
Speaker 1: cause they make giant, giant fucking batches and then send
Speaker 1: them out to wherever they fucking send them. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of them were just straight up sailing. Others were
Speaker 1: definitely some experimental fucking drug. Other ones were different experimental jokes.
Speaker 1: Like everything was an experiment for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and before they even rolled out the vaccine.
Speaker 2: The other thing I was going to say, just in
Speaker 2: passing for anybody who maybe went through a similar experience.
Speaker 2: I was working at the hospital at the time, and
Speaker 2: they said, well, you know, COVID's on the rise, and
Speaker 2: you don't want to get COVID, but you definitely don't
Speaker 2: want to get the flu and COVID. So they forced
Speaker 2: us all to get the flu shot that year. And
Speaker 2: I didn't want to take the flu shot. They said
Speaker 2: it was mandatory, and they they came to you know,
Speaker 2: all the different girls in my department with basically like
Speaker 2: a little tray and they just were like, okay, roll
Speaker 2: your sleeve up, we'll just get her done real quick.
Speaker 2: And I got the flu shot that year because I
Speaker 2: wanted to keep my job, and maybe like a week afterwards,
Speaker 2: I started getting just violently ill, more ill than I've
Speaker 2: ever been in my life, and it felt so synthetic.
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like any illness I've ever had in
Speaker 2: my life. I lost my smell and taste for like
Speaker 2: three months, and it just was the most bizarre illness
Speaker 2: I ever got. Of course, they said it was COVID,
Speaker 2: but I think that the flu shot that they gave
Speaker 2: out that year before they rolled out the COVID job
Speaker 2: was almost to like up the numbers of how many
Speaker 2: people were getting sick off COVID. And I don't know
Speaker 2: what the fuck was in that flu shot, but I
Speaker 2: was deathly ill.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they gave you the COVID one because
Speaker 1: it sounds like everything that everyone complained about with the
Speaker 1: COVID shit, well, rast smell, loss of taste, whole body
Speaker 1: heard this and that. Yeah, I mean yeah, and now
Speaker 1: it was synthetic.
Speaker 2: That was before they had even come out with the
Speaker 2: COVID vaccine. That's why they were pushing the flu shot
Speaker 2: so hard, because they were like, well, we don't we
Speaker 2: don't have a COVID shot yet, but we do have
Speaker 2: the flu shot, and you don't want to get the
Speaker 2: flu and covid, so you better prepare yourself for at
Speaker 2: least not getting the flu. And of course I didn't
Speaker 2: believe that shit, but they were like, you have to
Speaker 2: get it, and so I I think whatever was in
Speaker 2: the flu shot just was some synthetic version of the
Speaker 2: shit they were spraying us with that caused COVID. I
Speaker 2: don't know if covid is.
Speaker 3: Even a real thing, but could be that smart'st crap.
Speaker 1: The fuck knows, dude. I haven't had the flu shot
Speaker 1: since I was maybe six, and I've never had the flu.
Speaker 2: Well, so after I stopped working out the hospital, I
Speaker 2: never got another flu shot and I never will.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I never got the flu shots.
Speaker 2: What else I think is weird about it is I
Speaker 2: got it right after I got the flu shot. I
Speaker 2: got COVID quote unquote right after I got the flu shot,
Speaker 2: and I didn't get vaccinated obviously, And I never got
Speaker 2: COVID again ever, And I never got sick like that
Speaker 2: again ever. And all my friends and family who never
Speaker 2: had COVID who got the vaccine all have the fucking
Speaker 2: long COVID now, and they all have and they've gotten
Speaker 2: it multiple times, and they're every time I text them
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god, I got COVID again.
Speaker 2: And they put it in like our cousin group chat
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god, I got COVID again.
Speaker 2: I'm like, good thing, your vaccines worked. You know. It's
Speaker 2: just how how do you justify you're keeping on being
Speaker 2: sick with the same shit, but you've gotten vaccinated for it.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't get that.
Speaker 3: Security system's great. I've only been robbed three times and
Speaker 3: they almost caught them last time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, takes a real type of stupid and not
Speaker 1: be able to understand that you're getting a vaccine for
Speaker 1: the sickness. But you're still getting the sickness. What better
Speaker 1: Go get the second vaccine. Oh you're still getting the sickness.
Speaker 1: Go get the third one. Oh you're still getting the sickness.
Speaker 1: Wonder what it could be.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: All my family that got the two sets, they all
Speaker 2: go back and they get their boosties. Every year they've
Speaker 2: gotten their boosties. And every time they tell me that
Speaker 2: they've gotten COVID, I literally just had. I won't say
Speaker 2: who text me in my family. It was like a
Speaker 2: month ago, and they said, oh, all of us have it.
Speaker 2: And there's like five of them, and they go, all
Speaker 2: of us have COVID. We're quarantining in our separate bedrooms.
Speaker 2: And I remember because she texted me that she had
Speaker 2: just went and got a boostie. So it's like, of
Speaker 2: course you got it, and you took it home, and
Speaker 2: now everybody else had probably went and got their boosties,
Speaker 2: and now your whole house is sick with this shit.
Speaker 2: And it's just here's my theory. I know that they
Speaker 2: want people to inject themselves with all this foreign material whatever,
Speaker 2: that's part of it. But COVID has caused such a
Speaker 2: schism to where people are anti vaxxers and people are
Speaker 2: over vaxers, and I almost wonder if that's not on purpose,
Speaker 2: like they wanted to create a level of anti vaxers,
Speaker 2: because there maybe and I'm not fully on board with this,
Speaker 2: you guys, tell me what you think, but maybe there's
Speaker 2: a level of like tetanus shots and shit like that
Speaker 2: that are probably acceptable to get because you or like
Speaker 2: I don't know, mumps whatever. There's like a level of
Speaker 2: vaccines that might not be bad for you to have.
Speaker 2: But they've created such an anti vaxxer group that like, no,
Speaker 2: everybody's so against it, they wouldn't they wouldn't even consider
Speaker 2: doing even like a te edapp or anything like that.
Speaker 2: And then you have people who want extra vaccines and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, what's that guard to sell?
Speaker 5: Shoot me up seven times?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so give me more.
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, do you think they did this on purpose?
Speaker 3: Well, if the goal is in version, it's always to
Speaker 3: push towards people towards extremes, So so yes, it was
Speaker 3: the ultimate goal is both results, right, It's.
Speaker 2: The anti vax was almost created by it, and the
Speaker 2: overvax was created by it, and there's no middle ground anymore.
Speaker 2: And I don't even know where I am because if
Speaker 2: I had to pick a side, I would say I'm
Speaker 2: an anti vax person. But I've gotten to the point
Speaker 2: where I wonder every day if my decisions that I
Speaker 2: make haven't been manipulated by some overarching agenda in some way.
Speaker 2: And I do think anti vax is just as much
Speaker 2: a part of their agenda as the overvax and there
Speaker 2: has to be some kind of a middle ground. I mean,
Speaker 2: if I got in a car accident, I'd still go
Speaker 2: to the hospital and I'd want a surgeon to put
Speaker 2: me back together.
Speaker 5: So hospitals are fucking.
Speaker 2: Useful, but I mean, it's just they do stuff to you,
Speaker 2: and you have to wonder on what level you're not
Speaker 2: just constantly bombarded with some type of ideas being pushed
Speaker 2: down your throat.
Speaker 1: My idea on it, like I've gotten that I've gotten
Speaker 1: tennis shot a couple of times, I stepped on some nails,
Speaker 1: you know, but I had to get tennis shot. But then,
Speaker 1: like my idea of it is the anti vaxxers. It's
Speaker 1: like we're anti vaxxers, and so like what if this
Speaker 1: round of COVID bullshit whatever was kind of a way
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, everyone who got the shots. Some
Speaker 1: of them might die, but some of them are now
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, able to block this next
Speaker 1: round of disease that we put out there purposely to
Speaker 1: kill people. So like these people that got the shot,
Speaker 1: they're going to be protected for this next disease they
Speaker 1: throw out there. But then the people that didn't get
Speaker 1: the shot, like myself, we'll be like, oh fuck, we
Speaker 1: have our immune or immune systems can't fight off this
Speaker 1: new one they put in into the fucking system. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I always think about that shit because they
Speaker 1: can easily take your DNA and create something to kill
Speaker 1: just your DNA.
Speaker 3: So yeah, since they started talking about custom made cures
Speaker 3: for viruses, my first thought is, these are exactly not
Speaker 3: the people that I want with the ability to do that,
Speaker 3: because if you can mix things that'll cure only you,
Speaker 3: you can make things that'll ca only And that's why.
Speaker 2: I think they're so obsessed with people's DNA, because this
Speaker 2: whole push for the ancestral twenty three and me and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, it's kind of like a new sensation.
Speaker 2: And it's not that people haven't done genealogy all throughout time,
Speaker 2: because I've recently learned the Mormons are silly with it
Speaker 2: and they can trace their family trees all the way
Speaker 2: back to God knows when. But just within the last
Speaker 2: couple of years, and before I even really knew anything
Speaker 2: about it, I got a kit for Christmas one year,
Speaker 2: and I was all excited, Oh, I'll find out like
Speaker 2: if I'm part can't like Cantonese or some shit like that.
Speaker 2: Like people really think they're gonna get it back and
Speaker 2: they're gonna be some type of like.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm one hundred percent nots Kenazi zo, do
Speaker 1: you right?
Speaker 2: Like they want some type of foreign something eccentric in
Speaker 2: their DNA, and so they can't so they can say
Speaker 2: they're more than just a white per But everybody's on
Speaker 2: this whole thing right now about doing the twenty three
Speaker 2: and me and I think that they're just collecting people's
Speaker 2: DNA to like I don't have you guys watched Archive
Speaker 2: eighty one on Netflix at all, Dude, I did that.
Speaker 1: I don't like Netflix and I don't really like television
Speaker 1: at all, but my girlfriend said I'd like it, and
Speaker 1: I put on the first episode and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is actually kind of fucking cool.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, but so like at the end of the
Speaker 2: spoiler spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen the show,
Speaker 2: But they there's this DNA company that is collecting people's
Speaker 2: data because they're trying to find descendants of like these
Speaker 2: witches and they need a living descendant to use as
Speaker 2: part of a blood ritual. And I think that's not
Speaker 2: that it can't be far from the truth because they
Speaker 2: they are silly with looking for descendants of like I
Speaker 2: don't know how far you guys have gotten into like
Speaker 2: the nephelem and stuff like that, but there are a
Speaker 2: group of individuals who do believe that they have like
Speaker 2: some ancestral magic in their blood, and I do think
Speaker 2: they look for these descendants. And you're not gonna, oh,
Speaker 2: all the NBA players are nephileam descendants.
Speaker 5: I don't think it works like that.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think they have physical characteristics. Maybe
Speaker 2: red hair, but uh, you know, a lot of the
Speaker 2: royal family are really into this, like data collection and
Speaker 2: keeping their bloodlines peer and interbreeding and marrying like cousins
Speaker 2: and shit like that. So to some degree it's very important, right.
Speaker 1: And bah No, I totally agree with that. I think
Speaker 1: the elite Royals whatever they are, Like, yeah, those people
Speaker 1: definitely keep their blood in their blood the lines anyway.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there's something to it. I've never
Speaker 1: put my DNA out there for these genealogy genealogical places
Speaker 1: to you know, analyze, but so many of my family have,
Speaker 1: Like I can go online and like look at everything
Speaker 1: they have done and trace everything from their so like,
Speaker 1: I don't really need to put myself in there, but
Speaker 1: there's got to be something to it. Reptilians, there's got
Speaker 1: to be something there, right, right, gotta do something like.
Speaker 2: That because they also they have like these coveted blood types,
Speaker 2: you know, the the oh negative and the.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean they keep a close eye on stuff like that.
Speaker 2: The entire royal family is anemic and they have like
Speaker 2: some weird disorder with their blood. And I've always found
Speaker 2: that to be fascinating because it's pretty weird. King Charles
Speaker 2: is always bragging about how he's like second cousins with
Speaker 2: Vladdy and Paler and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Shit. The Queen what came out and was talking about
Speaker 1: out all that shit. She was on a got an
Speaker 1: interview on live TV or whatever. She's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: i'd the impaler with loose relations.
Speaker 2: Oh they're proud of that.
Speaker 3: Shit takes them back to the good old days where
Speaker 3: they could just impale people.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but that's like we're all like the vampire
Speaker 2: legends and shit come from and like the bram Stoker shit.
Speaker 1: Batthery Mery, Bathertery of England whatever her name was, like
Speaker 1: Bathe and.
Speaker 2: Blow, Oh yeah, the battery. Are you guys? Horror movie fans.
Speaker 1: At all love horrors my favorite genre.
Speaker 2: Dude, same, Well, okay, there's this horror movie. If you've
Speaker 2: never seen it. It's not like it's it's like I
Speaker 2: would almost say it's a little better than a B movie,
Speaker 2: but maybe not. Maybe it is.
Speaker 1: I just might be buying some of those B movies though.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you gotta check this one out. What the
Speaker 2: fuck is the name of it? What the fuck is
Speaker 2: the name of it? It's all about Bathery and like
Speaker 2: they're they get this video game and it's about her.
Speaker 2: But when they play it in the game, like they
Speaker 2: have to conjure her spirit and read like this incantation
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the game, and then if they
Speaker 2: die in the game, her spirit will come and get you.
Speaker 5: In real life, and shit, but.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look for it. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: got Oh what's the name of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to make a quick note on
Speaker 1: reptilian It's like, all right, here's something really interesting. So cats,
Speaker 1: cats and snakes. They both hiss they both have weird
Speaker 1: slitted eyes. But like, that's the only animal other than
Speaker 1: a snake that has slid eyes and hisses is a cat?
Speaker 1: What's up with that?
Speaker 2: And the Egyptians worshiped, worshiped them like they were some
Speaker 2: kind of a god.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to come from the supposed to be come
Speaker 3: from the Syrian system.
Speaker 1: Serious as a serious ay.
Speaker 2: Like the Star series.
Speaker 3: Yes, the cats are said to be Syrian.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something about that right after this,
Speaker 2: because I found the movie. It's from two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: It's called Stay Alive, which.
Speaker 1: Is the dog Star, which never made sense to me,
Speaker 1: which the doguon. I have known about Serious b forever,
Speaker 1: but you can't see Serious Bee.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of ancient ruins that are in
Speaker 2: alignment with this Serious Star, And I don't know if
Speaker 2: you got and if you haven't, that's cool. But I
Speaker 2: did a series on my show about Jim Carrey and
Speaker 2: the last episode one, oh yeah he is. I think
Speaker 2: it's like four parts or something like that, but the
Speaker 2: last episode I did ties all the four parts together
Speaker 2: and I put it on Patreon, and I connect all
Speaker 2: of Jim Carrey's movies in his roles to being related
Speaker 2: to the dog Star Serious and how they mention it
Speaker 2: throughout many Jim Carrey movies. And he has like this
Speaker 2: weird ritual room in his house. I saw pictures of
Speaker 2: it on Zillow because he put his house up for sale.
Speaker 2: So he definitely has like this ritualistic, weird component to him.
Speaker 2: And he's been so weird recently, like with some of
Speaker 2: the off the wall stuff he says. And so if
Speaker 2: you think about the Truman Show, right, this is just
Speaker 2: one example of many that I put in this presentation.
Speaker 2: But if you look at the Truman Show, when he's
Speaker 2: standing outside he's getting ready to get in his car
Speaker 2: and go to work, the first time he realizes that
Speaker 2: something is weird about his environment is one of the
Speaker 2: stage lights falls out of the sky and it lands
Speaker 2: on the street, and when he picks up the stage light,
Speaker 2: says serious, on it, not serious, like serious, but like
Speaker 2: the star Serious how it's spelled. And the scene right
Speaker 2: before that he's like yelling out a dog, you know,
Speaker 2: because Serious is the dog Star. And then this light
Speaker 2: drops out of the sky and it says Serious on it.
Speaker 2: And then in the movie twenty three, the psychiatrists that's
Speaker 2: working with him in the Insane Asylum or whatever, his
Speaker 2: name is doctor Serious something or other. And if you
Speaker 2: go back and look, like even in the Mask, he's
Speaker 2: got his dog, right Max, and the dog plays a
Speaker 2: big part in it. But the mask itself is supposed
Speaker 2: to be something to do with Loki in the mythology,
Speaker 2: and Loki is supposed to be the torch bearer for
Speaker 2: the Dog Stars Serious. So there is like these dog
Speaker 2: weird dog connections and serious connections all throughout Jim Carrey's movies.
Speaker 2: Even if you go to like you would think like
Speaker 2: I couldn't connect it to all of them. But even
Speaker 2: Dumb and Dumber they have a dog grooming business and
Speaker 2: they ride around in like.
Speaker 1: A show the Whole Dog Van, right, So I mean weird.
Speaker 2: If you look at Bruce Almighty, even there's like a
Speaker 2: ton of scenes where it's like, oh, he can't train
Speaker 2: his dog.
Speaker 5: He's always carrying his dog out to pee in the morning.
Speaker 2: And uh, Ace Ventura is basically animals all throughout, but
Speaker 2: like in the first one, he has like a bunch
Speaker 2: of dogs and shit.
Speaker 1: So that's weird.
Speaker 2: I started putting these yeah, I started kind of putting
Speaker 2: these pieces together in how there's like a serious mention
Speaker 2: and like the dog and a lot of Jim Carrey's stuff.
Speaker 2: And then for me, the one that summed it up
Speaker 2: was twenty three because there are so many references to
Speaker 2: Sirius in that movie. Uh, it's kind of wild. And
Speaker 2: even the Truman Show, like I said, this stage light
Speaker 2: it's called Serious.
Speaker 5: I mean the radio station. There's like a serious XM
Speaker 5: shit like that.
Speaker 2: It's all part of the Uh. I don't know prog.
Speaker 2: I guess they use it in some type of way.
Speaker 2: There's like megalithic structures built in alignment with Serious, and
Speaker 2: I think that it's significant in some way. I haven't
Speaker 2: put all the pieces together, but I feel like it's
Speaker 2: ritualistic and I guess somehow connected to cats too. According
Speaker 2: to you guys, I don't know how that is, but well,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I find it weird that cats and snakes
Speaker 1: are very similar, but there's no other animal that has
Speaker 1: slitted eyes and hisses other than a cat.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what it was.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, They're supposed to be connected via the sixth
Speaker 3: dimension too Serious. Supposedly the concept of cats itself derives
Speaker 3: from the Dog Star and Serious.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that makes sense, that makes sense. We'll see
Speaker 2: there you go. I mean, the more you look into it.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys. I've been doing this
Speaker 2: long enough to where I've started to freak myself out.
Speaker 2: But if I get like something on my mind, let's say,
Speaker 2: like Serious cis Dog Star, and I go looking for it,
Speaker 2: I'll find like a billion things that mention it and
Speaker 2: reference it, and it's in movies and like pop culture
Speaker 2: and everywhere. And if I picked like, let's say, for instance,
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe, when I started researching her, I knew very little,
Speaker 2: and then it was like I saw her everywhere I went,
Speaker 2: and I saw references everywhere, and I like all the
Speaker 2: puzzle pieces came together, or you know, even Laurel Canyon.
Speaker 2: I started, you know, researching that, I read strange scenes
Speaker 2: from the Canyon and then it was like everywhere I looked,
Speaker 2: I could hear a song or see it in a movie,
Speaker 2: or hear about somebody who was like living in the canyon,
Speaker 2: or like Charles Manson or something like that, and I
Speaker 2: could connect it back to the canyon. And it's just
Speaker 2: weird how many conspiracy topics end up kind of like
Speaker 2: weaving inside of each other and you can just find
Speaker 2: it everywhere you look after you start looking for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a giant ven diagram, like they all
Speaker 1: are interlinked somehow in some fucking way.
Speaker 3: It's like staring at the linter lanterns on Bloodborn. You
Speaker 3: gain insight into the unknown, but you slowly go mad.
Speaker 1: Right, So what do you think about Jim Carrey's ex
Speaker 1: girlfriend that killed herself quote unquote killed herself? Well, Katherina,
Speaker 1: what is it? Katherinona White?
Speaker 2: Yeah, her family filed a big lawsuit against Jim Carrey
Speaker 2: wondful death. They said, yeah, that he had something to
Speaker 2: do with it. They actually said that he was having
Speaker 2: sex with her and gave her like some some sexually
Speaker 2: transmitted diseases and didn't tell her about it.
Speaker 5: And she, yeah, so depressed, she wanted to kill herself over.
Speaker 1: It and he lamidia and herpies, right, yeah, and I.
Speaker 2: Guess, well, if you get herpies, you know that shit
Speaker 2: don't go away. You might want to kill yourself. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just try to still live, but.
Speaker 3: You know, avoid flare ups and such like normal.
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd want to kill myself. Oh
Speaker 2: and hepatized. See, yeah that's pretty fuck dude, chlamydia hepatitis.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah no, with that.
Speaker 5: Cocktail, you might want to kill yourself.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but okay, that is pretty damn depressing.
Speaker 2: And well, he maintained his innocence. He said that he
Speaker 2: had no part to doing it and that he was
Speaker 2: just as sad as everybody else. But he actually with
Speaker 2: what I know, researching him and putting together that series
Speaker 2: I did on him, I don't know. I grew up
Speaker 2: idolizing the guy, and I just don't know if he
Speaker 2: is everything that we've hoped he is. You know, people
Speaker 2: have this public persona and they're so funny and we
Speaker 2: love all their movies and shit, like Tom Hanks, and
Speaker 2: then you just find out later on that they're just
Speaker 2: a piece of scumbag weirdo fuck and that they're actually
Speaker 2: an awful human being. I don't know what to think
Speaker 2: about his girlfriend killing herself. I do know he dated
Speaker 2: what's her face for a while and she was a
Speaker 2: big anti vaxer. Do you know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I think she's married to one of the wahlbergs.
Speaker 1: Now slipping my mind. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Well, he was married to her for a while. She's like,
Speaker 2: is really big into anti vax stuff, and he was
Speaker 2: all on that train about, you know, don't get your
Speaker 2: kids vaxed. And then if you look at how he
Speaker 2: is now, it's almost like a complete one eighty and
Speaker 2: he's just all about Buddhism and shit and almost leaning
Speaker 2: to the left.
Speaker 1: It's been married quite a few times.
Speaker 2: Not Jenny McCarthy, Yeah, Jenny McCarthy, that's the one who's
Speaker 2: the anti vaxer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 3: It's probably the best known.
Speaker 2: Well, he does Joe Biden on sn noll too, So
Speaker 2: it's like he went from being an anti vaxxer and
Speaker 2: like kind of hippie go with the flow to now
Speaker 2: he's like complete, he's like a Biden supporter, and it
Speaker 2: just it's weird.
Speaker 3: Well, and Jenny McCarthy went from distrusting vaccines to holding
Speaker 3: his sever trump head. So it's like, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: just how much of these people.
Speaker 1: Change because they're How much of it scripted?
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: How much of it is their characters playing a role?
Speaker 3: How much of it was an act in the first place?
Speaker 3: What's the real personality?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For real?
Speaker 2: I mean wow, because it's almost like these celebrities are
Speaker 2: used in whatever capacity to almost infuriate us and play
Speaker 2: a part in whatever agenda they're trying to push. Because
Speaker 2: I remember watching episodes of Family Guy in the beginning
Speaker 2: a Family Guy when he would make like tranny jokes
Speaker 2: and like gay jokes and just completely hilarious, you know,
Speaker 2: inappropriate shit. And I guess recently Seth McFarlane has been like,
Speaker 2: I'm ashamed of the stuff that we used to put out.
Speaker 2: We'll never do that again. We'll never make fun of
Speaker 2: tranny's again, We'll never make fun of gay people again.
Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, so you guys.
Speaker 2: So it's just it's so crazy where we've gotten to
Speaker 2: like we can't even laugh anymore, we can't make jokes.
Speaker 2: Everybody sensitive, everybody's got their feelings hurt about something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't say anything critical about Jews now, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's outstandingly crazy. How Trump would push that put
Speaker 1: into law.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the whole world turned into the gay dude
Speaker 3: from Family guy. Oh no, no, everyone's all concerned about
Speaker 3: every stupid thing, and.
Speaker 2: Like the Jewish guy from family mort right from family.
Speaker 2: So what are they gonna do? Take him off the show.
Speaker 2: They're gonna take more off the show, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: take the gay guy off the show.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to homophobic and anti semitic portrayal. Sorry,
Speaker 3: they gotta go now to offensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like, see how the times have changed
Speaker 2: and how people will completely just flip their whole personality
Speaker 2: to go along with whatever the narrative is. It infuriates
Speaker 2: me because they take like stuff that used to be
Speaker 2: funny and cool and now it's all just you know, well,
Speaker 2: this is approved that we can put out, and this
Speaker 2: is approved that you can laugh at it. So here
Speaker 2: you go, this ultra filtered version of stuff you used
Speaker 2: to like.
Speaker 3: Hate it off that I know, for God's sake, I
Speaker 3: miss stuff like say John Stewart, he's the most important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it can't laugh at it anymore. Man, Oh no,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: What's laughable is on the you know, the whole boat
Speaker 1: of like, oh yeah, I was supposed to get on
Speaker 1: flight ninety three or whatever, ninety eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, him and Mark Wahlberg, right, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3: What if?
Speaker 2: What if Mark Wahlberg even doing these days?
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably washing dishes with his brother at
Speaker 1: the Wallberger Burger joint. Yeah, right, fuck it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, guys, I just I feel like so
Speaker 2: much stuff has just been so watered down.
Speaker 5: And it's, like I said, celebrities will flip on you
Speaker 5: on a dime.
Speaker 2: You can't. And that's the thing about politicians are celebrities
Speaker 2: too in their own right. Yeah, and they're just actors
Speaker 2: playing roles as well. I don't think they're really in
Speaker 2: control of half as much as we give them credit for.
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're not even in control of
Speaker 2: really who gets in. Because everybody's like they they're gonna
Speaker 2: take it from Trump again. They're just not gonna let
Speaker 2: him win again. It's like, dude, if they didn't want
Speaker 2: him to win, that first assassination attempt would have exploded
Speaker 2: his head everywhere. I mean this is all set up
Speaker 2: for a reason to since rationalized things.
Speaker 1: That's all this, That's all anything is that's in the media,
Speaker 1: just a sensationalized ship and steer the agenda or steer
Speaker 1: the narrative and just control it.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: It's like, where where was that assassin on the day
Speaker 2: that JFK's had exploded? Like, couldn't we have gotten one
Speaker 2: of the the sloppy just graze your ear guys when
Speaker 2: he was riding through Daley Plaza? What about RFK? Where
Speaker 2: was the shitty assassin on that day? How about Martin
Speaker 2: Luther King Junior. Suddenly all these expert marksmen that know
Speaker 2: exactly how to blow someone's head off, they've just all disappeared,
Speaker 2: the guy who shot John Lennon. But now we just
Speaker 2: have a bunch of idiot marksmen who can only aim
Speaker 2: at people's ears.
Speaker 3: He's ear, Sorry, had to hire MJ. Deltre.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's very hard raised his ear.
Speaker 1: Hole so fucking stupid. I had just gotten back from
Speaker 1: a camping trip and we're about to record and uh
Speaker 1: cricket told me that he had just been shot at.
Speaker 1: So I like quickly looked it up, like this is
Speaker 1: all bullshit. None of this is fucking real.
Speaker 2: But like, none of it.
Speaker 1: What was his name, not max Yurick? Because that one
Speaker 1: got away. We haven't heard from him anymore. The other
Speaker 1: one crooks. It's like, dude, this guy's is There's a
Speaker 1: video of him climbing up the ladder to get on
Speaker 1: the roof with the gun. Everyone's screaming, look, there's a shooter.
Speaker 1: There's a guy with the gun, and nothing gets done,
Speaker 1: and they let him up there. They let it happen. Yea,
Speaker 1: And immediately after the FBI goes up there, sprays all
Speaker 1: the blood off, gets rid of all the evidence.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, yeah, I mean when you compile
Speaker 3: all the footage, it was almost laughable, Like wow, it's
Speaker 3: like a stage play. They're like, okay, so now we're
Speaker 3: gonna move these guys over here, all right, so you
Speaker 3: don't see that dude above you. Okay, yeah, go go right.
Speaker 2: And this shot that he had was if you compare,
Speaker 2: if you want to go just based on argument sake
Speaker 2: here that Lee Harvey Oswald really shot President Kennedy in
Speaker 2: the head.
Speaker 5: Let's just say and pretend.
Speaker 2: Ville that he did this. The shot that he would
Speaker 2: have had to make too again blow his head off
Speaker 2: from the front, which is damn near impossible since he
Speaker 2: was from behind him. The shot that he would have
Speaker 2: had to make was so impossible, but somehow was successful.
Speaker 2: That compared to the shot the guy would have had
Speaker 2: to make when he got Trump's ear, it was almost
Speaker 2: a clear shot, like there was no margin for air
Speaker 2: or whatsoever if he even tried a little bit. And
Speaker 2: people are still on this bandwagon of they're trying to
Speaker 2: kill him, they're trying to take the presidency from him,
Speaker 2: They're trying to keep a good man down. It's like,
Speaker 2: if they wanted to keep a good man down, his
Speaker 2: head would have exploded into a million pieces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have been dead a long time ago
Speaker 1: if that was the case.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, I mean, if it I mean,
Speaker 3: if they legitimately screwed up, how would he How would
Speaker 3: he survive the trip to the hospital. Would they not
Speaker 3: have a person on the inside at all? Past that
Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, well, we missed. Guess our evil
Speaker 3: plans aren't are going nowhere? Right, Like that's the thing
Speaker 3: you're expected to believe, is that, like some of the
Speaker 3: most well connected, like vicious and vile people in the
Speaker 3: world wouldn't have a backup plan. They'd just be like,
Speaker 3: oh man, our plans are foiled like it, and.
Speaker 1: These aren't just some of the best, These like are
Speaker 1: the best at what they do, right, This is the
Speaker 1: fucking president the deep state, Like we're talking about the
Speaker 1: people with the most finances, the most money, the most everything.
Speaker 1: They need to carry out something we'll see.
Speaker 3: They meant to call DARPA, but they screwed up when
Speaker 3: they typed it into the phone book and they got DURPA.
Speaker 1: You got Ryan Ruth posts up on the golf the
Speaker 1: golf course with his rifle and nobody saw him in
Speaker 1: a bush. Yeah, they let him get away.
Speaker 3: He's probably he's probably back recuting for Ukraine by now, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably is. Like all you did really well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing though not convincingly, but nobody's nobody skeptical.
Speaker 2: It's all good, sure, But I mean, like, isn't the
Speaker 2: whole thing though it is?
Speaker 5: Like Trump?
Speaker 2: Is this this Christian representative? Isn't that what the thing is?
Speaker 3: Like? Man, unless you're read his works, like the actual
Speaker 3: writings he does, Yeah, I mean that's the persona they.
Speaker 2: Want that's the persona right, and it's just to me.
Speaker 2: I I just don't know where people are even getting
Speaker 2: that idea from that. He's like this Christian representative and
Speaker 2: he's all protecting this and protecting that and shit, and uh,
Speaker 2: the more that I really look into the guy, the
Speaker 2: least likely candidate for a Christian representative. I mean, if
Speaker 2: I were going to choose anyone to play that role,
Speaker 2: why why It's like, has the guy done look at
Speaker 2: his resume?
Speaker 5: Does it scream I'm a Christian to you?
Speaker 1: Not one bit? Nothing he ever has done or said
Speaker 1: is like I'm a Christian as stand by God, to
Speaker 1: stand by Jesus Christ, he is my savior. Like he's
Speaker 1: never said you like that.
Speaker 5: I've never heard him say that.
Speaker 1: Like he said he's a Christian. He said he's a Christian.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you're dealing with levels of mental gymnastics
Speaker 3: where people are arguing, well, he didn't swear on a
Speaker 3: Bible because there's actually a super secret new inauguration that's
Speaker 3: gonna happen, or he doesn't going to swear on a Bible.
Speaker 3: And I wish I was joking about this, but that
Speaker 3: is an actual theory. People are like branding about for
Speaker 3: why he didn't do that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's awfully convenient, isn't it. That you want to
Speaker 2: support the guy so bad you got to come up
Speaker 2: with a super secret, secretive inauguration where he's gonna secretly.
Speaker 3: Super duper secret double double Rasian agenda. Man, like you
Speaker 3: just need to keep trustice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so secretively secret that everybody knows about this
Speaker 2: big secret where he's secretly getting secretly inaugurated somewhere with
Speaker 2: the secret Bible. Like, come on, super secretly, this is
Speaker 2: the stuff I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: It's the same people still think like the next thing
Speaker 3: is going to be the walls are closing in on them,
Speaker 3: Like the next thing, like walls are closing in. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, they got him, They freaking got him.
Speaker 1: The answers to the Jewish faith, right, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: answers to the Jewish faith. That's there's no if sends
Speaker 1: ups or butts about it. You know. Maybe it's some
Speaker 1: of the Luciferian shit where everything's flipped. So he's like saying,
Speaker 1: I'm a Christian, but like in the Luciferian world, Christian
Speaker 1: means you know, lucifer or some shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it means something because anybody could just say
Speaker 2: that too. I mean, there's so many TV preachers that
Speaker 2: I've seen become total pieces of shit bag, all of them, literally,
Speaker 2: I think half of them are demon possessed. That there's
Speaker 2: this one. Oh my god, I posted him sometimes on Instagram.
Speaker 2: What's his name?
Speaker 5: Oh, Kenneth Copeland.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. That guy is a serpent if I've
Speaker 2: ever seen one.
Speaker 5: And it's like, people, which one is heah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that fucking guy looks like a demon.
Speaker 2: He looks like he's wearing you know, and men in
Speaker 2: black where she's like he's wearing an eggar suit. He
Speaker 2: looks like he's wearing a fucking like his skin's hanging
Speaker 2: off his bones. Like there's like a fucking serpent living
Speaker 2: in a human's meat suit.
Speaker 5: Like that's what he looks like for real.
Speaker 1: The interview where they go up and he's in his
Speaker 1: car and he's like standing on his car with his
Speaker 1: door open. That interview is wicked, dude.
Speaker 2: Wicked. Wicked is a good word to use, and people
Speaker 2: leave him his their entire estates. When they die, They'll
Speaker 2: be like, when I die, signed my entire estate over
Speaker 2: to Kenneth Copeland and he is a bazillionaire. He's got
Speaker 2: private jets, he's got limos, he's got all this shit.
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, so what he said he's a Christian?
Speaker 2: What the fuck, Hilla beans? Does that make in the
Speaker 2: long in like the long run of things. I mean,
Speaker 2: it literally means zero to me that they say stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, it literally means nothing.
Speaker 1: He started his ministry under Oral Roberts, who Roberts was
Speaker 1: a thirty third degree freemason.
Speaker 3: Absolutely Jesus would call him out for serving. Mammar Mamon says,
Speaker 3: I if.
Speaker 2: Anybody is unfamiliar with Kenneth Copeland, they need to go
Speaker 2: on YouTube and look for the one interview specifically that
Speaker 2: Coop was talking about, and then just listen to him.
Speaker 2: When he tries to speak in tongues that Jesus will
Speaker 2: send a chill right up your asshole. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't I can't stand to look at the guy.
Speaker 3: No, man, it's like, what's that sy healey nah necronomicon?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's got like just crocodile eye and a
Speaker 1: smile that never goes away.
Speaker 4: Like, dude, he's evil, Like he is evil inca incarnate.
Speaker 3: Dude, when people perform miracles like speaking in tongues, you
Speaker 3: can tell from the tone and the spirit of it
Speaker 3: whether or not they're doing it for their own purposes
Speaker 3: or actually because they're just that overtaken with the thing
Speaker 3: they believe in. Sure, not exactly hard to tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's everyone should have a level of
Speaker 2: discernment when it comes to this kind of stuff. And
Speaker 2: when I hear that guy, he just he gives me
Speaker 2: the chillre You got a picture of him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look at him.
Speaker 1: That one's during the interview that I'm talking about in
Speaker 1: the him.
Speaker 2: Look at him.
Speaker 3: Go, dude, is so evil.
Speaker 2: He is legitimately evil. Look, I was gonna say that
Speaker 2: I'm a side by side with Joe Rogan. That's great.
Speaker 1: That is funny.
Speaker 3: You can almost see the strings hanging above his head.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And you know, I would consider myself
Speaker 2: to be a Christian, whether or not people would say
Speaker 2: that I am. I don't really care because you know,
Speaker 2: I cussed and I do whatever people complain about that.
Speaker 2: But I would consider myself to be a Christian. And
Speaker 2: the more that I like try to interpret biblical scripture
Speaker 2: and stuff, and the more research I do, I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like we've got, you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: things wrong. And I think the you know, the Vatican
Speaker 2: has a big hand to do with why everything is
Speaker 2: so scattered and people are so wrong about so much.
Speaker 2: But I've been watching this one guy on YouTube. I
Speaker 2: think he's called Old World Florida or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, be guy. Yeah, I love that shit.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: That guy's got a crazy amount of research into like
Speaker 2: the Garden of Eden being in Florida, Florida, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: like why are we looking at the Middle East and
Speaker 2: you know, Florida's has got all these markers, you know,
Speaker 2: with the rivers and the fruit and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And it's just to me, there's been such a huge
Speaker 2: effort in confusing people about how magical and how wonderful
Speaker 2: of even you know, a history that we have, and
Speaker 2: it's all just been completely buried and I just I
Speaker 2: don't know, like the more the more research I do,
Speaker 2: and just when I got into the Nepheleme stuff, it
Speaker 2: really rocked my world. And I think if people actually
Speaker 2: knew how magical of a text the Bible was, if
Speaker 2: they could interpret it and it's full like meaning, they
Speaker 2: we wouldn't even have have the Catholic Church, we wouldn't
Speaker 2: even have I don't think church in general would exist
Speaker 2: if if we could really understand what all is in
Speaker 2: the Bible. I mean, these structures that we go to,
Speaker 2: these people that we call father, these you know, hierarchies
Speaker 2: and ship it's actually anti Bible if you really look
Speaker 2: into it, like all these priests and like all this
Speaker 2: weird stuff. It's very ritualistic, and it's actually very anti Christian.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I had to cut so much out through first the
Speaker 3: Council of Nicia, and then the apocryphal trials of the
Speaker 3: Catholic Church, and the in the in the Middle Ages
Speaker 3: and such, you know, like so to actually gain a
Speaker 3: fullness of understanding of what the Bible was actually trying
Speaker 3: to communicate, you got to go through back and read
Speaker 3: and study all of those you have, including the ones
Speaker 3: they say no, no, no, those ones were.
Speaker 7: Out.
Speaker 2: There's a book of Maria, there's a there's a book
Speaker 2: of Judas, there's.
Speaker 3: A book of Eve and it's dirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a whole lilith thing that's got that's got
Speaker 2: left out of the Bible. And I just you know,
Speaker 2: it's like I said, before. I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: how much of it we've gotten wrong over the last
Speaker 2: you know, however long. And something else that I was
Speaker 2: talking to my husband about is like these world fairs
Speaker 2: and stuff, like why don't we know any shit about that?
Speaker 2: And it's like they're supposed Trump is supposedly bringing that back,
Speaker 2: like he's wanting to do World's Fairs again.
Speaker 1: Really, like what is this shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fifteen minute City of Tomorrow, right, what is
Speaker 3: this stuff?
Speaker 5: You know, orphan trains?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 1: All these like cabbage Patch kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cabbage Patch kids, and and these buildings that were
Speaker 2: supposedly like built just for these events and stuff I
Speaker 2: torn down, right, I don't understand. There's it's like I've
Speaker 2: said this quite a bit lately, but I'll say it
Speaker 2: again because it's so true. They they don't want us
Speaker 2: to believe our own eyes.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 2: You know, you look at something and you get this
Speaker 2: this story of what it's supposed to be, and you're
Speaker 2: looking at this building and you're like, okay, so they
Speaker 2: built this with horse and buggy in a town of
Speaker 2: two hundred people. They built it in two days, and
Speaker 2: then they tore it down. And then it's like, yep,
Speaker 2: that's what it is.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: You know, just by looking at it, your perception would
Speaker 2: tell you something completely different. But don't believe that because
Speaker 2: this is the story. And you know, well, why are
Speaker 2: these buildings like half in and half out of the ground,
Speaker 2: like there was like a big flood or something. We
Speaker 2: did that on purpose. You don't worry your little self
Speaker 2: about that at all. That was completely and totally by design.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean, for example, I think it's in Utah,
Speaker 1: the Capitol Building in Utah. I think so this is
Speaker 1: people haven't really been west yet, right, Like there aren't
Speaker 1: big groups of civilizations happening in the west, like people
Speaker 1: are still exploring in early United States. So you get
Speaker 1: these pictures of like the Capitol building there with this fine,
Speaker 1: fine brick laid work going up, and it's like, where's
Speaker 1: this brick coming from, where's all the stone coming from?
Speaker 1: It's not in that area. And all of this is
Speaker 1: like you're saying, donkey and carriage.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was quarried from some place like seventeen thousand
Speaker 2: miles away. Yeah, uh huh, okay, sure it was.
Speaker 1: All on like in muddy fucking grounds and trails and
Speaker 1: then you put this up like they don't have ground
Speaker 1: like compacting technology back then, right, right, I mean according
Speaker 1: to as far as we.
Speaker 3: Need to do is just teleport it into a hut
Speaker 3: like three miles away and they just take it by
Speaker 3: donkey from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyone knows, like you're going to build a building,
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that ground is solid, that
Speaker 1: it's not going to move with earths and like make
Speaker 1: the sand all loose and Bilking's gonna fall. But you
Speaker 1: have all these really old buildings, every single capital in
Speaker 1: every state is just pristinely built in perfect laid ground, right,
Speaker 1: And how the fuck did they do that?
Speaker 2: How the fuck is right? And even like going along
Speaker 2: with like don't believe your own eyes. We see pictures
Speaker 2: of the pyramids and they say, okay, we know that
Speaker 2: your perception would be this is impossible for primitive people
Speaker 2: to have built. But don't worry. Here's our theory. They
Speaker 2: had a million carrier pigeons, about seven thousand slaves, a
Speaker 2: couple of ropes and pulley systems, and a couple of
Speaker 2: wagons with one squeaky wheel on the front, and they
Speaker 2: were able to quarry this stuff from twenty thousand miles away,
Speaker 2: and you know, they stopped to take a piss and
Speaker 2: shit break every now and again, but they eventually got
Speaker 2: it there and then they laid them precisely in alignment
Speaker 2: with this the Orion's belts and all this, and it
Speaker 2: was completely an accident. Don't pay any attention to that now.
Speaker 2: And it's just when you look at it with your
Speaker 2: eyes and you use your discernment and you say, well,
Speaker 2: who could have possibly and how could they have possibly
Speaker 2: built this thing? And who could have moved these gigantic stones?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe giants could, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: beings that had advanced technology. I'm not talking about aliens,
Speaker 2: but like or maybe if some people are on that train,
Speaker 2: sure you could say that. But I think these gods
Speaker 2: that they talk about that came down and taught them
Speaker 2: agricultural skills and building skills, and they had all this
Speaker 2: advanced technology and shit, maybe I don't know, maybe they
Speaker 2: could move seven thousand ton stones into this pyramidal structure.
Speaker 2: They want it, not to believe your own fucking eyes,
Speaker 2: and it infuriates me, my numbing.
Speaker 3: Well, the explanations are so insulting. It feels like you're
Speaker 3: being locked past an overpass and you've got like a
Speaker 3: random homeless guy being like, so the ancient people's here
Speaker 3: used to use this symbol to represent strength and honor,
Speaker 3: and you're just like, it's a freaking dick painted on
Speaker 3: an overpass.
Speaker 1: What it looks like.
Speaker 2: It's what it looks like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you preciate particularly shit you're coming up with,
Speaker 3: is not it?
Speaker 1: Tari man, fucking Tartaria, mud floods, great resets and all
Speaker 1: this is what they do.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The technology gets too too high of a point and
Speaker 1: the people are getting too much power, and they just
Speaker 1: do another great reset, right, and then just fuck everything up.
Speaker 1: That's why I think all these billionaires and all these
Speaker 1: fucking politicians have all these underground bunkers, because like they're
Speaker 1: about to have another great reset when we get too
Speaker 1: smart for our own good, which only means we're on them, right,
Speaker 1: We're fucking onto you guys. And when it gets to
Speaker 1: the point, but now it's like, do they want to
Speaker 1: just nuke everything and live on the ground for the
Speaker 1: next couple hundred years.
Speaker 3: They're too narcissistic for that. That's why they don't really
Speaker 3: want to do it. They want the attention and the
Speaker 3: love and that adoration. That's the trick is that was
Speaker 3: only ever a fail safe disaster plan that they never
Speaker 3: really wanted to do because they want to stay here
Speaker 3: and be worshiped.
Speaker 2: Sure they do.
Speaker 3: The last thing they want is to spend the next
Speaker 3: hundred years being the pieces of shit that killed the world. Well,
Speaker 3: and that's the thing is when it comes back, and
Speaker 3: when it comes back out, I think what they're kind
Speaker 3: of afraid of is that people aren't going to forget
Speaker 3: this time. So they're going to remain the pieces of
Speaker 3: shit that killed the world if they do it.
Speaker 1: And so they're not going to go to the length
Speaker 1: of nukes, right, They're going to kill us off by
Speaker 1: doing injections and radiation. They're going to kill us off
Speaker 1: in different ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, convenient mass death that is unexplained.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, here's the theory for you guys. You guys
Speaker 2: can disagree with this or agree with this either way.
Speaker 2: But it's said new theory that's popped into my periphery
Speaker 2: and I've kind of been looking into it a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I just had a conversation with these guys from
Speaker 2: the Nephelum Death Squad. I don't know if you've heard
Speaker 2: of them, but we were talking about why they're racing
Speaker 2: towards this finish line, and they're trying to take so
Speaker 2: many people down with them as they can't possibly can,
Speaker 2: and it's almost like it seems accelerated these last couple
Speaker 2: of years, and they're kind of on the thought of
Speaker 2: they know that there's this big pole shift coming, and
Speaker 2: whether you believe in flat Earth or not, the pole
Speaker 2: shift could still happen because it's just based in magnetism,
Speaker 2: and that's actually the plot for the movie twenty twelve
Speaker 2: with John Cusack, this pole shift, and I think that
Speaker 2: they've known that this is going to happen for a
Speaker 2: really long time and probably maybe even hundreds of year.
Speaker 2: They've known that this poll shift is coming, and they
Speaker 2: are just preparing to take as many people down with
Speaker 2: them as they possibly can, and they've made ways to
Speaker 2: where they'll survive, and there might be pockets of other survivors,
Speaker 2: because there always is, but there's it's gonna be, literally,
Speaker 2: like you said, a huge reset, and by the time
Speaker 2: it's over with, we're gonna be walking on the Earth
Speaker 2: and see nothing for hundreds of miles. But it's all
Speaker 2: just gonna be buried under like rubble and rocks, and
Speaker 2: every all civilization will be like you know how they
Speaker 2: go into like Egypt and shit, and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: this shit's been It's like miles under the ground and
Speaker 2: it's been buried, and what the hell happened to? Well, shit,
Speaker 2: it was part of one of the resets. And all
Speaker 2: the stuff that we're looking at right now, if you
Speaker 2: go outside and you look around, it's all gonna be
Speaker 2: buried under miles of dirt and where it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a legit reset. And they know this is coming, and
Speaker 2: that's why they are so blatantly they don't give a
Speaker 2: shit anymore because it's like, well, most of you guys
Speaker 2: are gonna be dead anyways, so exactly the fuck cares.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there are sub basement levels, like cities under cities.
Speaker 1: In every major city you go to, there are other,
Speaker 1: you know, cities underneath, like in Seattle, and you can
Speaker 1: go walk under there in Seattle. In most cities you
Speaker 1: probably can, but they're like just buried motherfuckers. And then
Speaker 1: you have the fires of like nineteen fourteen in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: fires of Chicago. I don't know if it was nineteen
Speaker 1: fourteen or earlier. I don't know, but the fires in
Speaker 1: Chicago fires and well, all big cities they've all had
Speaker 1: a big fire wiped everything out, or a flood or
Speaker 1: a flood.
Speaker 2: And so I think that with the poll shift that
Speaker 2: you're gonna get like some kind of Plagues of Egypt
Speaker 2: type stuff, and it's gonna be floods and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fire, and it's gonna be complete destruction. And if
Speaker 2: you look at that movie twenty twelve, they essentially create
Speaker 2: arcs which as in like Noah's Ark, and they put
Speaker 2: all the important people on these arcs and they float
Speaker 2: them out and they just wait for the waters to recede,
Speaker 2: and when they do, everything is annihilated and they just
Speaker 2: have to start all over again. Humanity survives, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's just like a handful of people that'd be so exciting.
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to make it happen. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's happening fast enough for their purposes. They're doing
Speaker 3: this weather manipulation says to me that the shift is
Speaker 3: not coming on fast enough. Their predictions are off in
Speaker 3: some way that the way they're respond the way they're acting,
Speaker 3: seems less blatant and not caring and more panicked and
Speaker 3: not caring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, panicked is a good way to use.
Speaker 3: There's a certain degree of desperation that doesn't scream haha,
Speaker 3: we're in control, that actually screams we're looking kind of
Speaker 3: pathetic right now. They don't like that. They don't like
Speaker 3: to be thought of as pathetic.
Speaker 2: They don't like it. But they also don't care because
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, you guys are going to be
Speaker 2: dead anyways, so let's just get done what we need
Speaker 2: to do before this thing goes down.
Speaker 3: It hurts them far more than any physical pain over
Speaker 3: could the thought that they would be viewed as losers.
Speaker 3: That's the thing that that's the thing that really hurts
Speaker 3: the elites. There's no shine to them anymore. People know
Speaker 3: their garbage. There's very few that actually still slavishly worship them,
Speaker 3: and that's gotta hurt.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why there has to be another reset where
Speaker 2: they're the only ones who survive so they can become
Speaker 2: the gods of old. And they're the saviors who brought
Speaker 2: us agriculture and taught us how to farm and fucking
Speaker 2: build wood huts.
Speaker 5: And they're the ones who I mean they have to be.
Speaker 2: They literally live on this notion of like being worshiped
Speaker 2: in shit, and I think recently it's gotten to the
Speaker 2: point where nobody, I mean, there's a select few that do.
Speaker 2: But it's like, does anybody really idolize celebrities and politicians
Speaker 2: they the way that they did even like ten years ago,
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago.
Speaker 5: They don't.
Speaker 3: Nah, even if you defend them, you know, you're defending
Speaker 3: a sleeves bag. It's not like it was back then
Speaker 3: where their reputations were well hidden.
Speaker 1: And they're really trying to revive that too. They're trying
Speaker 1: to revive there, like love me please. I mean, all
Speaker 1: these awesome movies, and sadly a lot of people do
Speaker 1: fall flesh they love them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean when I even I say this
Speaker 2: a lot, but I separate like the art from the artist.
Speaker 2: And I can still enjoy certain things because we all
Speaker 2: got to live. And I would rather be, you know,
Speaker 2: laugh my way to the apocalypse than sit in fucking
Speaker 2: a padded room and rock myself back and forth. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean there are certain things that I still enjoy.
Speaker 2: I'll listen to music, I'll watch movies, whatever, But in
Speaker 2: the back of my mind the whole time I'm sitting
Speaker 2: there thinking like, I wonder if that guy rapes CA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does make it a little tough.
Speaker 1: You can't help you can't get those things. And looking
Speaker 1: in movies when you're watching them, you're not really paying
Speaker 1: attention to the words. You're looking in the background, you
Speaker 1: look for symbols.
Speaker 2: Oh you know one thousand percent with that shit because.
Speaker 1: Once, yeah, once I got my girlfriend to start doing that.
Speaker 1: Now she like hates me because she doesn't really watch
Speaker 1: movies anymore. She's like, I fucking want to enjoy it,
Speaker 1: and I can't enjoy any movie with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are certain shows, even like Archive eighty one.
Speaker 2: The second I turned that show on, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna watch this show. And then by the
Speaker 2: fifth episode, I was like, oh no, I got to
Speaker 2: cover this on my podcast. This is ridiculous, this stuff,
Speaker 2: and it's in almost everything if you really look for it.
Speaker 2: I've covered movies from my childhood, like with my friend Drew,
Speaker 2: we covered like Harry and the Henderson's and like Edward
Speaker 2: scissor Hands, and I mean it's literally everything, even the
Speaker 2: stuff you would never think in a million years would
Speaker 2: have some kind of like weird mk ultra type messaging.
Speaker 2: It's always in there in some capacity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all know.
Speaker 2: It's in every Disney movie, like one hundred, every Disney
Speaker 2: one hundred. I mean even in the shows, like I
Speaker 2: was saying earlier, like the Nickelodeon shows and the Disney shows,
Speaker 2: Like it's always in there.
Speaker 1: It's somewhere in there. What did I just find the
Speaker 1: other day? I found something? Well, what the fuck was it?
Speaker 1: And it was just yesterday I found something, took a picture.
Speaker 3: Of it, Like, damn it. Count Ducula got me okay
Speaker 3: with drinking.
Speaker 1: Blood of Count Ducula.
Speaker 2: What is that real thing?
Speaker 3: Countducula? Yeah, oh yeah the old Disney cartoon.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I must have missed that one.
Speaker 3: It's like, uh yeah, Like I remember the in the intro,
Speaker 3: like the sun comes out and he turns the stone
Speaker 3: and shatters and shit. It was kind of like the
Speaker 3: stirpanasy as a kid. Oh god. But like if you
Speaker 3: think back like all that, like there was so much
Speaker 3: at cult symbolism in that show, and that's one of
Speaker 3: the few that they decided to conveniently not revive.
Speaker 5: Sure they didn't.
Speaker 1: I think what I was going to get onto is
Speaker 1: just album covers that were really fucked up. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. Oh like music, Yeah, yeah, Like Scorpion's Virgin Killer.
Speaker 1: The original Virgin Killer out album cover was like this.
Speaker 1: I think it was the either the photographer or producer's
Speaker 1: young daughter. She's like ten years old, just fully in
Speaker 1: a very provocative stance. She's like sitting on the floor,
Speaker 1: legs are kind of spread, arms back, so she's like
Speaker 1: really pushing her flat chest out and none of us,
Speaker 1: none of us blinked out. Wow yeah. And then like
Speaker 1: the led Zeppelin House of the Holy that album covers
Speaker 1: fucked because those are all little girls. They're all naked
Speaker 1: and they're climbing up this big like rocky mountain thing,
Speaker 1: hotly blonde hair.
Speaker 3: I mean, really disturbing thing is when you compare the
Speaker 3: art style to the comic pictures and realize it is
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 2: Style, even some of the ones that aren't like blatantly obvious,
Speaker 2: like with kids and stuff in them, but like the
Speaker 2: ones that are like hidden messaging. I've started to think
Speaker 2: that Elo has got a lot of like accult lyrics
Speaker 2: and their album covers are all kind of like what
Speaker 2: does this really mean? And then you look at the
Speaker 2: Beatles and stuff, and like they're that one where they're
Speaker 2: all standing over a grave and shit. Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: just wonder, like there's got to be something more to this.
Speaker 1: See, this is the house of the Holy.
Speaker 3: The whole transhumanism connection to the song I'm a Bee,
Speaker 3: which I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna bee, I will I like black Eyed peas?
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever heard the whole the whole transhuman
Speaker 3: humanist theory behind the I'm a b song? Like not
Speaker 3: everything in it is a is about essentially a well
Speaker 3: becoming cyber more or less if you look through the
Speaker 3: video and everything. Yeah, if you think about it, instead
Speaker 3: of him saying I'm a I'm a bee as an
Speaker 3: I'm going to be but rather saying I'm a bee,
Speaker 3: and then the picture on the actual album cover isn't
Speaker 3: a picture of him being something, It's a picture of
Speaker 3: a bee. I'm a bee. I am part of the hive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hive mind, Oh right, right, hive mind stuff right,
Speaker 4: And the entire and the entire video is about conformity
Speaker 4: and accepting conformity.
Speaker 2: Well, this one that he just pulled up, it looks
Speaker 2: like they've blanked it out because it was so bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoever posted the picture did.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was one of the worst ones. Like I've
Speaker 3: never seen an uncensored version, and I'm totally okay with that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it was originally pretty freaking awful.
Speaker 1: It's basically this, right.
Speaker 2: Like all the ones he's pulled up are yeah, they're all, oh, there's.
Speaker 1: One this is a book, but they use cover but yeah,
Speaker 1: in color, it's they have like a fake break in
Speaker 1: the CD so it looks like it's broken glass covering
Speaker 1: the vaginal area.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she really is like a little girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like ten years old.
Speaker 2: Holy crap.
Speaker 3: Well, because otherwise it would have been literally illegal to
Speaker 3: portray at the time.
Speaker 2: It just you know it's bad when you google it
Speaker 2: and all the pictures have a big circle over it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the House of the Holy these are
Speaker 1: all little girls like six, seven, eight years old climbing
Speaker 1: on this mountain and they're all naked. Dude, I mean they're.
Speaker 2: Everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, I think even like I've mentioned it before,
Speaker 2: but there was a Eagles i think album cover where
Speaker 2: they're standing in a hotel and oh yeah, they have
Speaker 2: like Anton Levey's is up on the balcony or something
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, And I think they sneak a little.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people do you know when they're
Speaker 2: like listening to stuff. Maybe it used to be a
Speaker 2: thing when you had to like go buy records and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't tell you what half of the album
Speaker 2: covers are. If like some of the music that I
Speaker 2: have on my phone, I just like go download the
Speaker 2: song and listen to it. But the album covers are
Speaker 2: kind of where it's at recent there you go.
Speaker 1: That's the one. Yeah, that's the one Anton Levey just
Speaker 1: hanging up there, hanging out.
Speaker 5: Yeah in the balcony.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's and a lot of time when the
Speaker 3: these album covers start appearing is when these bands start
Speaker 3: getting intertwined with Hollywood and the yeah scene. Because if
Speaker 3: you think about it, like here's here's an interesting example.
Speaker 3: If you think about like the first Corn album, it
Speaker 3: was very plain and didn't really have like much symbolism on.
Speaker 3: It was just like a picture of some random scene,
Speaker 3: like just pretty much nothing to it. But then as
Speaker 3: soon as they, you know, get an album deal, become big,
Speaker 3: then they got stuff like stitches with the doll. It's
Speaker 3: like suddenly they're putting all the symbolism in their in
Speaker 3: their music that was not originally there. Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Got the Lonely Hearts club band Sergeant Pepper's album cover
Speaker 1: with Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 2: I never knew Alistair Crowley was in that Beatles Yeah.
Speaker 1: Top left up there. This is so many weird people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Uh who I used to think that
Speaker 2: was Marilyn Monroe, but it's Jane Mansfield this one. Nope,
Speaker 2: the go Down oh two years yeah, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jane's Jane Mansfield.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so when you went to go google this album cover,
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little interesting that it said
Speaker 2: Beatles album cover and you put with in the first
Speaker 2: thing that popped up was dead Babies.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh yeah they did babies one. I didn't
Speaker 1: see what it said. Yeah, it does say that.
Speaker 2: Look at that. It was the first Google search click
Speaker 2: on that. I'm just so this, What the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Oh you haven't seen this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is one of their album covers from yesterday and today?
Speaker 2: Can you click on that?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? What is this?
Speaker 2: Why have I never fucking seen this in my life?
Speaker 1: Really weird photo shoot of meat and dolls.
Speaker 3: But yeah, babies is just a little cannibal LARPing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, oh please, oh my god.
Speaker 5: Is there nothing sacred left in the world? No, I
Speaker 5: like that album.
Speaker 1: There's nothing sacred, nothing at all. Like look at this.
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, shits just so fucking weird.
Speaker 2: Man. Wait, you guys are saying you knew about this?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how did you?
Speaker 5: How did you guys figure out about this?
Speaker 3: I mean I've been I've always been kind of immersed
Speaker 3: in this since the since the very beginning.
Speaker 1: I've always been into the weirdest shit out there since
Speaker 1: I was a little kid. And like, I've never liked
Speaker 1: the Beatles, never liked them. And I don't know where
Speaker 1: I found this, probably like uh ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh my god, nobody has even mentioned this to
Speaker 2: me before. See that's how clueless I am, because like,
Speaker 2: if I want to download an album, I'll just like
Speaker 2: go on my Apple Music and just download the songs
Speaker 2: I want. Yeah, never this pops up on my phone.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's see fucked up album covers. We just
Speaker 1: see Oh yeah, that corn one. This corn One's really weird.
Speaker 1: Oh the Shadow of a Weird Guy it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like No Place to Hide? Was that their first
Speaker 3: album or set their third one. I think that was
Speaker 3: their third one.
Speaker 1: I care that was untitled or self titled or something.
Speaker 3: I thought that was freaking' Alisha's album. Okay, maybe their
Speaker 3: original one wasn't so innocuous.
Speaker 2: Why am I I'm so bothered by that Beatles one,
Speaker 2: you guys, I'm not even kidding you.
Speaker 1: I thought you see that.
Speaker 2: I had never seen it. Oh god, what is this?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Please?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 1: This mega death one hanging up babies on a clothesline?
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been exposed to all of this stuff
Speaker 3: for so long, Like I can actually think back to
Speaker 3: as a kid, an older gal telling me about the
Speaker 3: polar shift theory in the eighties. Really so yeah, really,
Speaker 3: oh yeah. She was talking about how there it's about
Speaker 3: to perform another ninety degree shifts and then they happen
Speaker 3: every several thousand years, and it was spreading and the
Speaker 3: weekly world news back in the day.
Speaker 2: Do you think, like, do you think it's bull or
Speaker 2: do you think it'll really if? Do you think it's real?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right right.
Speaker 3: I didn't really put much stock in it back then,
Speaker 3: but everything seems so ridiculous now I'm starting to believe
Speaker 3: maybe there is something to these theories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems so.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. I can't really discount even
Speaker 3: the most insane ones at this point, because even the
Speaker 3: really crazy stuff has come out as true for the
Speaker 3: most part.
Speaker 1: You think that goes in line with like the age
Speaker 1: of when one age ends and we're about to be
Speaker 1: the Caliuga, Do those polish shifts kind of fall in
Speaker 1: line with the Caliyuga type of shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. It
Speaker 2: seems like you have to because it's every so many
Speaker 2: hundred years in the Caliuga, I think forty or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like we're due for one.
Speaker 3: This is weird gollaf I type in fucked up album
Speaker 3: covers and one of them is just a little messed up,
Speaker 3: not too much, just a little.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is how I find a lot of
Speaker 1: just random shit. I'll just go down a rabbit hole
Speaker 1: and I'll find something fucked up, and I'll click on that.
Speaker 3: And then you have to spend another hour confirming that
Speaker 3: the image is actually real, right, and then you ask
Speaker 3: on Twitter and you get banned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just surprised that when you typed in fucked
Speaker 2: up album covers that beatles. One wasn't like the first
Speaker 2: one that came up. That is just so, where are
Speaker 2: you guys at on the Paul Paul McCartney was replaced.
Speaker 1: Theory he was definitely replaced.
Speaker 3: Sure he was.
Speaker 2: I think he was, for sure, I.
Speaker 1: Think he was. He can't be four inches higher. You
Speaker 1: can't be a left guitar left handed guitar player to
Speaker 1: a right handed or vice verus whatever it was.
Speaker 2: He all of a sudden got like mad skills on
Speaker 2: the on the keyboard too.
Speaker 1: Skills heah, all of a sudden plays these different instruments,
Speaker 1: sounds better, sings better.
Speaker 2: If you look it up, you can find like those
Speaker 2: pictures of him being six inches taller and shit too,
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy and like his whole bone structure, really,
Speaker 2: his nose is.
Speaker 1: Different, Paul McCartney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before and after crash, that's probably. Yeah, look at
Speaker 2: this shit, look at it. The bone structure is completely different.
Speaker 3: Six inches is close enough. Look at that?
Speaker 1: I mean, And then what did he say he got
Speaker 1: like like next surgery or something.
Speaker 5: He got something because.
Speaker 2: Even though this one was a better musician and ended
Speaker 2: up making them way more famous, I still I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I think I like the new Paul Butter.
Speaker 1: And even the band members, the other band members are like,
Speaker 1: now we like the old pole, we like the old Pole.
Speaker 2: He definitely took the Beatles to a whole new level
Speaker 2: after he joined. There are some of these when you
Speaker 2: look at him side by side that it's almost like
Speaker 2: you can't even you can't even debate it. They're so different.
Speaker 3: They've been let dead.
Speaker 2: Like up at the top for sure. There was a
Speaker 2: couple that were just like, come on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, it's a different guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So wait, this happened in the sixty five sixty six
Speaker 3: you know, so what I did? What year did? What
Speaker 3: was the really like heavily programmed one revolver come out?
Speaker 3: Because at first it was like they were programming people
Speaker 3: for pacification, and then just out of nowhere, they were like,
Speaker 3: happiness is a warm gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it was like I want to hold your
Speaker 2: hand and stuff. Sixty six, nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 1: August fifth, nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 5: Oh you guys know that thing I have about August right?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, eights the eights.
Speaker 2: It comes out in August.
Speaker 3: Wow, and let's see when he died, so yeah, it
Speaker 3: would have come out when like right before or right
Speaker 3: after the accident November ninth, This was after, but.
Speaker 5: They could have been working on this already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I already had a planned up and cued. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: They were training the new Paul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably just with the wrecking crew.
Speaker 3: Maybe that maybe then that album came out, they're just like,
Speaker 3: this one's breaking down, we got we gotta swap him
Speaker 3: out right, or like he programming.
Speaker 2: But hey, you know, there's also a theory in my
Speaker 2: mind that the old Paul didn't die at all and
Speaker 2: they just replaced him because the old Paul didn't want
Speaker 2: to get on board with the shit that they were
Speaker 2: trying to do and the agenda they were trying to push,
Speaker 2: so they just replaced him.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Paul trying to make a bunch of money off
Speaker 1: of it and like the other guys are like, no,
Speaker 1: we don't want money.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was probably the exact opposite. I
Speaker 2: think the old Paul was probably more into like he
Speaker 2: obviously wasn't a big as much of a musician as
Speaker 2: the new Paul, and I think like his writing style
Speaker 2: and stuff was probably a little lesser than the new one.
Speaker 2: And I think they approached him with this whole because
Speaker 2: it got so psychedelic and weird and like drugs and
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And I think maybe the old Paul
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, no, I'm cool on that, and they
Speaker 2: were like, well, you know, we could always just replace yeah, eh,
Speaker 2: and they maybe he didn't die at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't have to. I don't think a lot
Speaker 2: of these celebrities that they say died or did. I
Speaker 2: don't think Jim Morrison is dead.
Speaker 1: Maybe he is now, but they's just hanging out on
Speaker 1: an island man Epstein Island.
Speaker 3: Sure. I mean, I think she just refused to see
Speaker 3: the yard in the fifteen minute citar solo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't actually have to kill them in order
Speaker 2: to say like they died in a car accident or anything.
Speaker 2: They can just legitimately replace people. I'm sure they. I
Speaker 2: mean I talked to my husband about this and I
Speaker 2: still don't know. But it's like, is Princess Diana really dead?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she is saying she died in
Speaker 2: a car accident, but did she?
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, it's so hard. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: that car was pretty fucked up.
Speaker 2: She hated her life so much, dude. She really like
Speaker 2: if there was anybody in the world that would want
Speaker 2: to like just have a fresh start in life, like
Speaker 2: she's a prime example. Yeah, she hated her life and
Speaker 2: she had so much shit happened to her. I could
Speaker 2: imagine her wanting to disappear forever. I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: she there's no possibility that she didn't die. It just
Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense that she just wanted to
Speaker 2: run away.
Speaker 3: I mean, you really got to You really got a
Speaker 3: question everything once you go from the step of did
Speaker 3: Epstein kill himself too? Did Epstein even die?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he did.
Speaker 1: She wasn't part of the bloodline, No, she was not.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know what to think. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I want to know why Ringo Star is still alive,
Speaker 1: because he was he really added nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, everyone knows he's the most popular beat all. They
Speaker 2: can't kill him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ring we love you. They just put the drum
Speaker 1: set up to the front of the stage.
Speaker 2: They haven't killed him because he's so much of not
Speaker 2: a threat.
Speaker 3: Yeah for real, I mean the guy is like I
Speaker 3: always just felt like kind of like the most corporatized
Speaker 3: entity of the whole bunch where he was really the
Speaker 3: company man in the group.
Speaker 1: Sure, do whatever you want, give me the money, I'll
Speaker 1: do whatever you want me to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you could, like looking at their personality, you
Speaker 3: could see almost every last one of them like wanting
Speaker 3: to push back over various things that they're being suggested
Speaker 3: or having pushed on him. But he's just like for paycheck.
Speaker 2: Well, there's this Family Guy episode where he's like, I
Speaker 2: found the secret to time travel and they're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, Ringo, let us in on it. And he's like,
Speaker 2: but you have to sing my song about the octopus.
Speaker 1: No, no, please.
Speaker 3: It's like fine, I'll leave without you then.
Speaker 2: I mean he literally is like the least threatening beetle
Speaker 2: of all times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely is.
Speaker 5: Dude, why kill him? I mean, he's just pitiful at
Speaker 5: this point.
Speaker 1: It's more torture to let him live.
Speaker 3: Like they like they always say, don't harass this person.
Speaker 3: Their existence is already punishment from the gods every single day.
Speaker 1: Poor fella, poor little fella.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you guys want me to do some stuff
Speaker 2: about Maryland?
Speaker 1: I'm free to get into it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we've kind of laid some good groundwork
Speaker 2: for the sixties already, like with the Beatles, and I
Speaker 2: was talking to you guys about the Laurel Canyon and stuff,
Speaker 2: and uh, Maryland did die in nineteen sixty two, and
Speaker 2: she died in August, which I thought was significant because
Speaker 2: of the eight. But then yeah, I find out later
Speaker 2: in the research she dies on August fourth, but she
Speaker 2: was buried on August eighth. So you got eight eight,
Speaker 2: And I just I don't know. I mean, I've found
Speaker 2: so many things.
Speaker 1: Six plus two is eight, one minus nine or nine
Speaker 1: minus one is eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, nineteen sixty two, right. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've covered so many things where eight comes up that
Speaker 2: I think it's just like a gimmicky thing to me
Speaker 2: at this point on my show where I mentioned, oh,
Speaker 2: it's an a, it's an eight. But it's true, like
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff happens on the eight. So her
Speaker 2: official cause of death was a cute barbituate poisoning. But
Speaker 2: when the medical examiner was writing up her autopsy report,
Speaker 2: he penciled in the word probable next to self administered
Speaker 2: overdose of sedative drugs because he didn't even really think
Speaker 2: that's what it was, And so it said probable self
Speaker 2: administered overdose of sedative drugs.
Speaker 1: But I was that in the original report or did
Speaker 1: he go back.
Speaker 2: And write it in From the book that I read
Speaker 2: with the guy who researched this, it said the official
Speaker 2: verdict was probable self administered overdose of sedative drugs. So
Speaker 2: it made it in there, okay. And everybody kind of
Speaker 2: knows about her sleeping with both Robert Kennedy and John F. Kennedy.
Speaker 2: I mean, she was pretty open about that stuff, and
Speaker 2: they were spotted multiple times with her. She had taped
Speaker 2: sessions with her psychiatrists where she talked about having sex
Speaker 2: with both of them, and it was actually calm and
Speaker 2: knowledge at the La Police Department that she was in
Speaker 2: a relationship with both of them, and they were like, ah,
Speaker 2: no big deal whatever. And she was also known to
Speaker 2: have like some weird mob connections with Frank Sinatra and
Speaker 2: this Chicago mafia boss guy named Sam g and Kanna,
Speaker 2: and she was also somehow in connection with this guy
Speaker 2: named Johnny Roselli who was also with the Chicago mob.
Speaker 2: And it's like they everybody knew about this stuff, but
Speaker 2: they didn't find it suspicious at all, which I mean
Speaker 2: it clearly is.
Speaker 3: And then she uh, yes, for safety purposes, This isn't suspicious, right, She.
Speaker 2: Had this really close relationship with a guy named Frederick Field,
Speaker 2: who was a known Soviet intelligence agent. So how in
Speaker 2: the world is this woman who at this point in time,
Speaker 2: like people just referred to as like the dumb blonde character.
Speaker 2: She's got all these high up political and Soviet intelligence
Speaker 2: connections of Chicago mafia boss connections. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure you can say she was just this dumb blonde
Speaker 2: that was flashing her shit all over town. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I mean, just based on
Speaker 2: who her friends were, it would suggest that she was
Speaker 2: serving multiple purposes. And that's where kind of like, for me,
Speaker 2: the monarch mind kind of sex kitten multiple personality disorder
Speaker 2: comes in. Yeah for real, even the double M with
Speaker 2: her name, like Marilyn Monroe monarch mind. It's just this,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just sticks out to me.
Speaker 1: So the who was it that bugged the Bernard A
Speaker 1: Spindle started wire tapping her phones in.
Speaker 2: The US government, And yeah, so the US government and
Speaker 2: the mob had bugged her phone, so she was getting
Speaker 2: like double tapped, literally.
Speaker 1: A little double tapped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, whatever she was into, they both wanted
Speaker 2: to know about it. So it's like the US government
Speaker 2: had an interest in what was going on with her
Speaker 2: and the mafia had an interest in what was going
Speaker 2: on with her, and so they both had her phones tapped.
Speaker 2: And the mainstream narrative is that this woman was so
Speaker 2: depressed and was into so much shit that she just
Speaker 2: couldn't take it anymore and she just killed herself and
Speaker 2: just took all these pills. And there's a nice little
Speaker 2: picture of her dead on the mattress with a knocked
Speaker 2: over bottle of pills.
Speaker 5: And that is the story that we're given.
Speaker 2: And they've made plenty of Netflix documentaries and HBO documentaries
Speaker 2: outlining that, and they've sold it to us pretty great.
Speaker 2: I mean I before I found this book and I
Speaker 2: really started looking into it, and maybe you guys can
Speaker 2: say the same, but I just bought that. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: it makes sense because she was super famous and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, and maybe she really was just super depressed
Speaker 2: and killed herself.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was one of the earliest ones I
Speaker 1: looked at and looked into, like, what's up with the pills?
Speaker 1: I don't like, why aren't there pills everywhere. Like I
Speaker 1: have seen suicide, real legitimate suicides, I've seen it. The
Speaker 1: scene that was left here with her was completely inaccurate,
Speaker 1: like from the official report to what the picture should like.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because so some of the inconsistencies I always
Speaker 2: like to point out is that her body and the
Speaker 2: crime scene are inconsistent with a sedative drug overdose by
Speaker 2: taking pills, because there was absolutely no trace of tablets
Speaker 2: that were found in her stomach period, there were no
Speaker 2: trace of tablets found in her intestines period, And it
Speaker 2: just seemed odd because when you check her bloodstream, she
Speaker 2: had enough nimbutah and chloral hydrate to.
Speaker 5: Legitimately kill an elephant.
Speaker 2: So if she was to have taken what they say
Speaker 2: was sixty to seventy nimbutah in nineteen to twenty chloral
Speaker 2: hydrate tablets, there would have been significant evidence in her
Speaker 2: stomach and her intestines of leftover undigested tablets. Yet there
Speaker 2: was none to be found.
Speaker 1: And yeah, because the drug creates a crystal, sar's to crystallize, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're called refractive crystals, and they're the active ingredient
Speaker 2: in any drug. And if she would have swallowed sixty
Speaker 2: to seventy nbutohl and twenty chloral hydrate tablets, there would
Speaker 2: have not only been undigested tablets, there would have been
Speaker 2: these refractive crystals in her system, and digestion stops when
Speaker 2: you die, And with the amount that she had in
Speaker 2: her system, she would have been dead before half of
Speaker 2: that amount was even digested.
Speaker 5: So where are they if this is what she really
Speaker 5: did to kill herself.
Speaker 1: And not only that, the pills I think it was
Speaker 1: a nembutohl had a yellow coating that that would have
Speaker 1: been left over in her intestines or stomach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have actually like coated her stomach and
Speaker 2: intestines like fucking pepto bisy is supposed to do. That's
Speaker 2: the the yellow coating dissolves in the stomach acid and
Speaker 2: it pretty much dyes this stomach lining and intestines with
Speaker 2: this yellow candy coating or whatever. And there was none
Speaker 2: of that present in her stomach or her intestines, and
Speaker 2: no refractive crystals. There was literally nothing to suggest that
Speaker 2: this woman had taken pills whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Well, geez, Julia, where does that lead us?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 5: Where does it lead us?
Speaker 2: Because We've got this nice little picture of her dead
Speaker 2: in her bedroom with this pill bottle knocked over. So
Speaker 2: like they've done a great job of trying to convince
Speaker 2: us of that, and she, uh So, the way that
Speaker 2: your body breaks down drugs, there's usually a higher percentage
Speaker 2: of the drug in your liver than in your bloodstream.
Speaker 2: So she had a massive toxic overload of this stuff
Speaker 2: in her bloodstream. But she also had two point eight
Speaker 2: eight times that much nimbutol and chloral hydrate in her liver. So,
Speaker 2: however these drugs were introduced into the body, it had
Speaker 2: to be in a really rapid way to have that
Speaker 2: much of a level of it in your liver.
Speaker 1: Eh.
Speaker 2: But the weird thing about it was the medical examiner.
Speaker 2: His name is doctor Noguchi. He's like this cool little
Speaker 2: Asian guy that nobody really talks about.
Speaker 1: But he's done a bunch of celebrity Yes.
Speaker 2: He did, like John Belushi and shit, like he's worked
Speaker 2: on several celebs. Yeah, he said that he was so
Speaker 2: shocked at the mount that was found in her liver
Speaker 2: that he wanted to go back and retest everything. But
Speaker 2: when he went to go back and ret and make
Speaker 2: sure these numbers were right. He was informed that her
Speaker 2: internal organs were missing, and yeah, yeah they they they
Speaker 2: legit went missing. All of his notes from the original
Speaker 2: autopsy went missing, the original autopsy report went missing, her
Speaker 2: body itself went missing and then turned up later.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that for a second here. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, the organs, do you know which organs
Speaker 1: specifically were missing, because a lot of these organs are
Speaker 1: used in Satanic you know, rituals, well, like the liver,
Speaker 1: the heart, all.
Speaker 2: Of the ones that get taken out during an autopsy
Speaker 2: were missing. Because I don't think doctor Negucci was definite
Speaker 2: was definitely in on it, Like I can't say that
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like he was.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was.
Speaker 3: He seems kind of ignorant to things, if anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how he comes off to me. Two, So
Speaker 2: whatever he took out that would be standard in a
Speaker 2: regular autopsy. I think they take out like the stomach
Speaker 2: and shit like that. I think they leave a few
Speaker 2: things behind, but they like take them out and they
Speaker 2: weigh them and shit, and they do this as standard
Speaker 2: procedure with an autopsy. And it was all those major
Speaker 2: organs that would have been crucial for further testing that
Speaker 2: were removed and missing, and before her funeral, her body
Speaker 2: had actually went missing for a while, so it's like,
Speaker 2: what really were they doing. I don't think doctor Negucci
Speaker 2: himself was in on it, but they were doing something.
Speaker 1: Have you heard anything about why her body was missing?
Speaker 1: Not really, No, dude, there's nook. Okay. I did read
Speaker 1: one thing and it said basically it was the Secret
Speaker 1: Service had taken her body and kept it for something
Speaker 1: like between four and nine hours. And really yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't know where I read this. I think it
Speaker 1: was in Reddit back before I got kicked off. I
Speaker 1: read it as well, that's funny. Yeah, but from what
Speaker 1: I remember, the Secret Service took her body and they
Speaker 1: all like took turns basically raping it. Oh god, and
Speaker 1: we all know that, like what's his name, fucking George Bush,
Speaker 1: sculling bones, he was all into that sort.
Speaker 2: Of shit necrophilia. Yeah, I mean that doesn't surprise me
Speaker 2: at all. I hadn't come I'm not saying that's not
Speaker 2: true because it sounds fuck true, but it didn't come
Speaker 2: up under my radar when I was doing this, probably
Speaker 2: because I was so fixated on like her autopsy report.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, there are so many different directions, so
Speaker 1: you can take this shit. It is so sure.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'm not really surprised that the doctor was suspicious
Speaker 3: about giving all the evidence. Like I can only really
Speaker 3: think of one example of chloral hydrate appearing in popular culture,
Speaker 3: which would be a The Venture Brothers. Somebody puffs a
Speaker 3: few puffs of a cigarette that had it dipped on
Speaker 3: tipped on the end of it and immediately starts going unconscious.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's like the date rape drug.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it wasna say date rape drug, and it
Speaker 3: was depicted as incredibly potent. So how do you take
Speaker 3: that much of it?
Speaker 2: If you were going to kill yourself, would you really
Speaker 2: want to overdose on the date rape drug? Like that'd
Speaker 2: be a horrible way to die.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know, and you could just pass
Speaker 3: out really hard and not die.
Speaker 2: And it's like, why why go the extra mile of
Speaker 2: taking the sleeping pills with it?
Speaker 1: Gotta really really want to die?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like you know that alone's not going
Speaker 3: to kill you and just draw it, draw you very
Speaker 3: deeply unconscious.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I wanted to do this, if I
Speaker 1: wanted to do this. I would take as many pills
Speaker 1: of anything I could possibly find that I knew would
Speaker 1: kill me, Like I don't know, penta, barbitol and whatever,
Speaker 1: the other one chloral hydrate. I would be taking handfuls
Speaker 1: of it as much as possible when drinking vodka or
Speaker 1: something on it, just to help break it down quicker.
Speaker 1: Like That's how I would do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it still comes into the the
Speaker 2: story though, It's like, how did she get it in there?
Speaker 5: Because there's no evidence of the tablets, so she would.
Speaker 3: Like tons of it afterward. Yeah. That's the other thing
Speaker 3: is if that, if that were to be the case,
Speaker 3: like there would be so much evidence of that.
Speaker 2: Happening and the the So the first organ that he
Speaker 2: took out was like the stomach. Then he looked at
Speaker 2: the intestines, and he looked at the liver. What's whatever
Speaker 2: else he needed to examine And then he goes, all right, well,
Speaker 2: she didn't take tablets, so let's roll that out. Let's
Speaker 2: look at something else her. Uh, she has no puncture
Speaker 2: wounds that would suggest it and deadly injection. He checked
Speaker 2: in between the toes and the wherever cracks and crevices,
Speaker 2: and he comes up to with the conclusion that all right,
Speaker 2: there's no needle marks or puncture wounds. This wasn't an injection,
Speaker 2: and he gets to the uh, the sigmoid colon is
Speaker 2: what it's but it's basically just your bee hole, and
Speaker 2: it's all purple and bruised and it's swollen and it's
Speaker 2: crazy looking. And she has like these huge bruises on
Speaker 2: the backs of her legs and on her butt cheeks
Speaker 2: and on her hips and the backs of her arms,
Speaker 2: and he's like, well, all right, seems like this is
Speaker 2: a likely place for insertion because it's there's no reason
Speaker 2: her colon should look like this and then torn up right,
Speaker 2: and he's then he's basically rolled everything out. Besides, she
Speaker 2: injected somehow. It was injected rectly like a It was
Speaker 2: like a deadly enema that was just shot up there
Speaker 2: and it killed. Anytime you put something in your butt,
Speaker 2: it's gonna absorb way faster than if you take it
Speaker 2: orally anyways, like through your mouth, and so right, this
Speaker 2: is this is probably the most likely vehicle of delivering
Speaker 2: that type of payload that quickly. Because she also had
Speaker 2: something called cyanosis, which is when you turn blue and
Speaker 2: your like the vessels in your eyes become real constricted.
Speaker 2: And you see cyanosis when someone has been choked to
Speaker 2: death or they've drowned and they have this cyanosis because
Speaker 2: the oxygen gets cut off so quickly they turn blue
Speaker 2: and like their blood vessels dilate or something like that
Speaker 2: and it leads to this cyanosis.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she had cyanosis, meaning she died very quickly
Speaker 1: from lack of.
Speaker 2: Lif with the quickness. And so what he inferred based
Speaker 2: on the cyanosis and her purple colon is that they
Speaker 2: used what's called like an anima bulb. And it's not
Speaker 2: like the typical bag and hose Ininema that would like
Speaker 2: be a real pain in the ass to carry around.
Speaker 2: It's like this little short nozzle and it has a
Speaker 2: legit bulb where you fill it up with liquid and
Speaker 2: you just shoot it in your ass like fucking water
Speaker 2: hose and get it travels quickly up the intestines and
Speaker 2: if it was a lethal overdose like what she had,
Speaker 2: it would kill you in minutes or seconds. Even so,
Speaker 2: that's why she turned blue like that, is because she
Speaker 2: died with the quickness.
Speaker 1: And I've done I've taken an enema before with that
Speaker 1: same type little bulb thing. Oh sure, it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: They say you can do it with like coffee and stuff.
Speaker 2: You can shoot it up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never done the coffee one, just regular like
Speaker 1: a saline solution. I will say this, Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to try, just to see what it's like. But what
Speaker 1: happens with these enemas you get that stuff, you let
Speaker 1: it sit in your freaking cavity up there for a
Speaker 1: little bit. But dude, once the like the feeling of
Speaker 1: having a shit comes, you gotta go, and that stuff's
Speaker 1: coming out. And so that's what's really weird to me.
Speaker 1: How like nothing was found on her bed.
Speaker 2: Well, the housekeeper was on her third load of laundry
Speaker 2: when the police officer arrived, and her body had also
Speaker 2: been moved three times before the police officers arrived.
Speaker 3: Time to do the laundry. That's right, the amount that.
Speaker 5: She had in her system.
Speaker 2: The medical examiner said that she died so quickly that
Speaker 2: she didn't even have a chance to push it back out,
Speaker 2: like you would think if somebody was squirting shit into
Speaker 2: your ass, you would try to like actively push to
Speaker 2: get it back out. And she died so fast she
Speaker 2: didn't even have a chance to like push it back out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like thirty seconds max. That's crazy, and.
Speaker 2: That's why she was blue like that. And it turns
Speaker 2: out that giving somebody a deadly inima like that was
Speaker 2: one of the mobs preferred methods of killing someone in
Speaker 2: the sixties. That there was more than just Marylyn that
Speaker 2: died of a fucking deadly in hima around that time.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: There's a mob higher up that had a fetish and it.
Speaker 2: Just proved to be really quick and if you didn't
Speaker 2: know what you were looking for, undetectable.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that makes sense, that would make sense now.
Speaker 1: I know there was a phone call, like someone saw
Speaker 1: Robert at her house right before on this day there
Speaker 1: is fighting and shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he showed up to Marylyn's house that day. Many
Speaker 2: neighbors saw him, and the neighbors and the housekeeper reported
Speaker 2: that they were having a scuffle and that he had
Speaker 2: left and she was so upset, like she didn't eat
Speaker 2: that day. She had no food in her stomach, she
Speaker 2: didn't have any alcohol in her stomach. She barely even
Speaker 2: had water in her stomach. So whatever happened that morning
Speaker 2: when Robert came over, she was in. But this I
Speaker 2: think goes to as part of the setup as to
Speaker 2: why they're trying to make it look like it was
Speaker 2: the Kennedys, because if it was the mob that did
Speaker 2: this to her, it would make sense because they got screwed.
Speaker 5: Over by the Kennedys.
Speaker 2: And they may have known because they had her house
Speaker 2: tapped that he was there that morning and that they
Speaker 2: did get into an altercation, and they were like, well,
Speaker 2: if we were going to do it, today's the day,
Speaker 2: because she just got in a huge fight with Robert
Speaker 2: Kennedy and everybody saw his ass over there. So I
Speaker 2: think it could go to be part of their plan
Speaker 2: as to frame them.
Speaker 1: That would make sense if that Enemma was a mob thing.
Speaker 1: The mob got there, they did it for sure, so
Speaker 1: that would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: And so when I say she was moved a bunch
Speaker 2: before the police got there, that's because again she had
Speaker 2: these lividity markings is what they're called, and it's when
Speaker 2: your blood starts to settle after you die. You get
Speaker 2: these like it almost looks like bruising or something. So
Speaker 2: once you've been dead in a certain position for a while,
Speaker 2: your blood will settle, and if you're, say, for instance,
Speaker 2: flipped over onto your front side, your blood will start
Speaker 2: to settle and create a new lividity marking. And then
Speaker 2: if you're flipped back over onto your back, it'll create
Speaker 2: a third lividity marking. And she had those. She had three,
Speaker 2: which would suggest that she died in the face down
Speaker 2: what they call the soldier's position, with her face down
Speaker 2: and her arms and legs at her sides down, like
Speaker 2: being held down according to the bruises, and then she
Speaker 2: was flipped over onto her back for a considerable period
Speaker 2: of time, and then she was flipped back over onto
Speaker 2: her stomach before the police got there, and that's what
Speaker 2: caused all those lividity markings. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: many dead bodies you guys know of that flipped themselves
Speaker 2: around after they're dead.
Speaker 1: But I have known exactly zero, only the highest.
Speaker 2: It also just doesn't fit the narrative that she took pills,
Speaker 2: because the housekeeper and the psychiatrist that was supposedly there
Speaker 2: before the police got there, and then her general practitioner
Speaker 2: showed up before the police got there, they all said
Speaker 2: no one touched the body that that's how they found her.
Speaker 2: Nothing was moved, her body wasn't moved, nobody touched her.
Speaker 2: But yet, how do you explain how she was flipped
Speaker 2: over three times?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And Eunice Murray was her housekeeper, right. Ralph Greenson
Speaker 1: was a psychiatrist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ralph Green fucker.
Speaker 1: Green fuck face.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Eunice Murray says she saw that the lights were
Speaker 1: on in Maryland's room, right, because Marilyn was ran in
Speaker 1: there all angry, shut the door locked, it had the
Speaker 1: light on. Eunice was like, well, okay, the lights on,
Speaker 1: you know, a knock but didn't get a response, right,
Speaker 1: and that would have been like three am.
Speaker 3: And then she called and she.
Speaker 2: Calls the psychiatrist and then what happens. Yeah, So he
Speaker 2: gets there and he tries the bedroom door and he's like,
Speaker 2: you're right, it's locked. Okay, fuck you, I thought we
Speaker 2: could establish that.
Speaker 1: Turns around. Oh, Eunice points out her you were right,
Speaker 1: you were right, good job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So his story goes that he had to run around
Speaker 2: to the outside of the house, he had to bust
Speaker 2: open the window, he had to crawl through this broken window,
Speaker 2: and he sees her there and he's like well, she's
Speaker 2: fucking dead, and she he calls her general practitioner to
Speaker 2: come to the house, and when he gets there, they
Speaker 2: call her publicist, they call her agents, they call all
Speaker 2: these people for about four hours before they call the police.
Speaker 2: So there's like three or four hours of missing time
Speaker 2: between when doctor Greenbean gets there and the time that
Speaker 2: they call the police. And in that amount of time,
Speaker 2: they sure as shit had enough time to start cleaning
Speaker 2: stuff up. But what's weird and what doesn't make sense
Speaker 2: is that when the police officer gets there, his name
Speaker 2: is Sergeant Clemens, he notices that this whole broken window
Speaker 2: to get to Maryland thing is not really adding up
Speaker 2: because all the glass is on the outside and not
Speaker 2: on the inside in the bedroom where it ought to be.
Speaker 2: It broke into the window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like a lot of us have broken windows
Speaker 1: in our lives from the outside going in, that glass
Speaker 1: doesn't fall outside the window, yeah, that falls inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes zero sense and all. So that's the
Speaker 2: first thing he notices. Also, what he noted was suspicious
Speaker 2: is that as a medical professional, you would think your
Speaker 2: first thought would be to roll her over and perform
Speaker 2: CPR on her while you wait for the cops to
Speaker 2: get in the in the ambulance to get there. As
Speaker 2: a medical professional, you're telling me this guy just broke
Speaker 2: into the bedroom window, crawled in through shards of glass,
Speaker 2: and didn't bother after all that fucking effort that he
Speaker 2: just put in to roll her over and check that
Speaker 2: she was even really dead, he was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: you just stood there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she's definitely dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, there was no CPR, there was no fucking
Speaker 2: mouth to mouth, there was no there's nothing. You just
Speaker 2: broke in this window.
Speaker 1: No medical person would do that.
Speaker 2: No medical person I know in Foxville would just be like,
Speaker 2: oh dead because I said, so, let's take another four
Speaker 2: hours and fuck about the house until we decide to
Speaker 2: call the police.
Speaker 1: Like even the shittiest nurse would like at least flip
Speaker 1: them over and do something like do something for a
Speaker 1: second something.
Speaker 2: So he goes, all right, this is this is Sergeant Clemens.
Speaker 2: He's taking notes of all the suspicious weirdness. And he goes, Okay,
Speaker 2: so the glasses on the outside of the window. You say,
Speaker 2: you didn't perform CPR, you didn't even really check that
Speaker 2: she was actually dead. Okay, nothing weird there. How about
Speaker 2: there's no vomit or regurgitated material anywhere in the crime scene, Like,
Speaker 2: there's no you're telling me. She took sixty to seventy
Speaker 2: nimbutah and nineteen to twenty chloral hydrate tablets. She didn't
Speaker 2: even gag. There's not even a droplet of vomit. There's
Speaker 2: not even a like a mess on the bed, in
Speaker 2: the in the bathroom nowhere.
Speaker 1: You oh, there'd be something. And so apparently historically she
Speaker 1: wasn't a sh She was a gagger, right, she was
Speaker 1: a big old gager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she would. She'd gag on a fucking advill if
Speaker 2: you gave it to her. Like she she was nut
Speaker 2: and it was known by her friends that she couldn't.
Speaker 2: And so the problem is is, like when you take
Speaker 2: that many tablets, your body goes into freak out mode.
Speaker 5: It goes into like evacuation mode, and whether or.
Speaker 2: Not you want to, you will start vomiting because your
Speaker 2: body is trying to like release some of that back out.
Speaker 2: And when you, yeah, when you die of a sedative overdose,
Speaker 2: whether you want to or not, you're going to regurgitate
Speaker 2: some of that shit back up. And that was something
Speaker 2: else that Sergeant Clemens was like, uh, the fuck not,
Speaker 2: because there was no vomit anywhere. And he goes, all right, well,
Speaker 2: you said she took all these pills and shit, but
Speaker 2: I don't see any glass or anything over here. By
Speaker 2: this conveniently knocked over a pill bottle that still had
Speaker 2: pills in it, So what's going on? And so the
Speaker 2: psychiatrist is like, you're right, and they do this scooby
Speaker 2: doo split up thing, and they all decide they're gonna
Speaker 2: search around for a way that Marylyn could have taken
Speaker 2: over one hundred pills, and they said she was locked
Speaker 2: in her bedroom all day. So the first thing Sergeant
Speaker 2: Clemens does is he's like, all right, well, let's look
Speaker 2: in the bathroom here and see, like maybe she got
Speaker 2: some water out of the faucet or something, and she was,
Speaker 2: you know, she took the pills in here and then
Speaker 2: came in the bedroom and died and succumbed or whatever.
Speaker 2: So he goes in the bathroom and he finds out
Speaker 2: like the water has been shut off to that part
Speaker 2: of the house because it's under renovation, which makes it
Speaker 2: even more unlikely because the housekeeper didn't fucking see her
Speaker 2: in the kitchen or anywhere she didn't even have food
Speaker 2: in her stomach. So now it's become Maryland dry swallowed
Speaker 2: over one hundred tablets, but somehow there's still some pills
Speaker 2: left in this bottle here that's knocked over, and they're
Speaker 2: also missing in her stomach and intestines.
Speaker 5: So explain that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it works in the same universe where kas
Speaker 3: Showgi got in a fight with a furnace.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no way in hell, she's fucking dry swallowing
Speaker 1: all those pills.
Speaker 2: I don't know a person alive that can dry swallow
Speaker 2: one hundred pills and then still leave some in the bottle.
Speaker 2: So I mean, basically, like the inconsistencies had piled up
Speaker 2: to that point in such an alarming at such an
Speaker 2: alarming rate. It's like, even if you look at just
Speaker 2: the autopsy report and just the crime scene alone, you
Speaker 2: absolutely cannot come to the conclusion that she overdosed on anything.
Speaker 1: No nothing in the stomach, no pills in the stomach.
Speaker 2: The lividity markings, the housekeeper washing laundry, the cleanup that
Speaker 2: took place within the four hours that they waited to
Speaker 2: call the police. Yeah, and then it's like, all right, iblish,
Speaker 2: there's no drinking glass. The water's been shut off. She
Speaker 2: must have dry swaild these bitches. But somehow, right before,
Speaker 2: like all the paparazzi people got there and all the
Speaker 2: crime scene people got there, somehow there goes a glass
Speaker 2: of water right next to the nightstand. And that's when
Speaker 2: Sergeant Clemens literally wrote in his notes that they placed
Speaker 2: it there before the picture people showed up. And that's
Speaker 2: the picture we get on Google images when you google
Speaker 2: Marylyn's suicide is her face down in the bed with
Speaker 2: a knocked over pill bottle, and there goes a glass
Speaker 2: right next to the to the bed that wasn't there
Speaker 2: when the police arrived, but somehow magically showed up right
Speaker 2: before the pictures are taken. So, I mean, real, it's
Speaker 2: just it's all staged. It's all staged.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much knock on here and mob
Speaker 3: connections like Hanslick, you know. The the fact that the
Speaker 3: cleaning lady was just cordially doing the laundry, well she
Speaker 3: and the fact that she did not get hemmed up
Speaker 3: and grilled after that. Really it just kind of screams
Speaker 3: that almost everybody involved was was in on it to
Speaker 3: a certain extent, and that they were mostly concerned about
Speaker 3: people from the outside company. Did you take it they
Speaker 3: had all the inner circle pretty much locked down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say the police sergeant, Sergeant Clemens,
Speaker 2: he said that her story sounded ridiculously rehearsed, that she
Speaker 2: was sweating and nervous, and right after he questioned her,
Speaker 2: she fucked off the Europe for like a year. So yeah,
Speaker 2: she never was asked to testify. I mean she was
Speaker 2: also like, for someone as dramatic as Marilyn was, for
Speaker 2: someone who had all these affairs and was running around
Speaker 2: with mobsters and fucking politicians and all these celebrities and shit, like,
Speaker 2: she didn't leave a suicide.
Speaker 3: Note, right, she was, they wanted it, and they wanted
Speaker 3: that any lady to fuck off the Europe. I mean,
Speaker 3: she was a high profile game. They could have stopped
Speaker 3: her from leaving the country. I'll bet if they really wanted.
Speaker 2: To, well one hundred and It's like, Marilyn was an
Speaker 2: avid journaler and the night that she died, her private
Speaker 2: cabinet of journals was broken into and all of her
Speaker 2: journals were taken. Also, all of her tapes with her
Speaker 2: psychiatrists were confiscated and for someone who's an avid journaler,
Speaker 2: who's a dramatic social personality as she is. No suicide note,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. And
Speaker 2: that her she was actually getting weaned off of the
Speaker 2: Nimbutohl because they they said that she was having a
Speaker 2: problem with it, so they were weaning her off of it.
Speaker 2: And the amount that she had in her system, she
Speaker 2: didn't even have access to that via prescription. And she
Speaker 2: actually called her friend on the night that she died
Speaker 2: and said, Hey, I'm kind of hard up for some
Speaker 2: sleeping pills.
Speaker 5: Do you have any extras?
Speaker 2: And this was like an hour before the time of death,
Speaker 2: according to the autopsy, and her friend said she didn't
Speaker 2: have any slurred speech, she didn't sound weird, she didn't
Speaker 2: there was no cause for concern. And so you would
Speaker 2: have thought that a woman who just took sixty to
Speaker 2: seventy sleeping pills in nineteen to twenty chlorohydrate tablets, who
Speaker 2: was about to succumb within an hour, you would you
Speaker 2: would notice, son And also why would she be asking
Speaker 2: for more if she had plenty?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the seventy nine Beutel's not work. And Shayl, can
Speaker 1: you do you have a couple.
Speaker 3: You can give me, right, I gotta have another sixty
Speaker 3: or so, you know, the first sixty aren't taken of
Speaker 3: a high tolerance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like, all right, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: And then right after she makes that call to her
Speaker 2: friend asking her for sleeping pills, she then immediately followed
Speaker 2: that up with a phone call to her hairstylist and
Speaker 2: confirmed her appointment for the next morning. And she's literally
Speaker 2: about to die in an hour. Does that seem like
Speaker 2: something you'd do?
Speaker 3: No? No, would you? I mean, would you confirm a
Speaker 3: hair appointment if you're going to kill yourself? What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: One hundred percent you were just some like sick weirdo,
Speaker 1: like you're just like like fucking with everybody.
Speaker 3: But she's definitely not one of those.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's just the amount of evidence is staggering.
Speaker 2: And then it's like original autopsy report missing, original police report, missing,
Speaker 2: official medical reports, missing, internal organs missing. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on here? If she just
Speaker 2: simply died of a drug overdose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you think about all the high level connections
Speaker 3: that are necessary for all of those things to go missing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you never hear about anyone getting so much as fired.
Speaker 2: Well, here's a quote for you from this book I
Speaker 2: read it. Said a lieutenant named Marion Phillips said, quote
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty two, Chief Parker took all the files
Speaker 2: to show someone in Washington and that's the last we
Speaker 2: saw of them in quote. So what it's like a
Speaker 2: Pentagon level cover up? WHOA?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would not be at all shout to
Speaker 3: find out that the mob runs the fanagne.
Speaker 1: And about Chief Parker, because like a week after her death,
Speaker 1: Captain James Hamilton told Clemens to sign a report that
Speaker 1: he had prepared about Maryland's death, but Clemens refused and
Speaker 1: then learned, like a week later or whatever, learned that
Speaker 1: his signature was forged under the orders of Chief Parker.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I'm telling you guys, if she just simply died
Speaker 2: of a drug overdose, why in Foxville would this be necessary?
Speaker 1: Why such a cover up?
Speaker 2: And then what so during this cleanup process, this four
Speaker 2: hours or whatever of missing time in between doctor Greenbean
Speaker 2: showing up and them calling the.
Speaker 5: Police, j Edgar Hoover.
Speaker 2: Orchestrated a cleanup job where people came in and confiscated
Speaker 2: shit from her house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so why would that be necessary?
Speaker 3: What was so important? He's got Epstein level compromat something.
Speaker 2: And so, I mean, there are certain things that we
Speaker 2: can speculate on, and there are certain things that we
Speaker 2: cannot speculate on. I think all of the medical stuff,
Speaker 2: the autopsy report, doctor Nogucci's testimony, the level of drugs
Speaker 2: in her system, her colon, all that stuff, it cannot
Speaker 2: be disputed.
Speaker 5: That's the facts of the case.
Speaker 2: What can be speculated upon, though, is who actually was
Speaker 2: responsible for carrying this out? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's given orders? Who the fuck is giving orders
Speaker 1: for this? Was it the mob?
Speaker 2: Was it the Kennedys, Who fucking knows. But at least
Speaker 2: we can both agree that she didn't kill herself.
Speaker 1: There's something about Clemens showed up and like one of
Speaker 1: the doctors was in the bathroom flushing the toilet, and
Speaker 1: Clement's like, what the fuck is he doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: And he went in there and found like the dude
Speaker 1: was trying to flush pills down the toilet, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't really flushing.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, I'm pretty sure this whole thing about the
Speaker 2: knocked over pill bottle and then there being some pills
Speaker 2: left in the bottle, they could have used that time
Speaker 2: to like stage like, well, this is almost a full
Speaker 2: prescription here, let's flush some of them and knock some
Speaker 2: over like for dramatic effect over on this nightstand and
Speaker 2: it I mean it just to me, it's like almost
Speaker 2: a sloppy cover up job, because they also found a
Speaker 2: little scrap of paper in her bed that had JFK's
Speaker 2: personal office phone number on that later disappeared, So it's
Speaker 2: like they're not even doing a good job.
Speaker 3: I always wonder like are they being sloppy or are
Speaker 3: they just are they signaling how untouchable they are, Like
Speaker 3: that's what I always wanted to want to ask, like
Speaker 3: are they truly incompetent or did they want to leave
Speaker 3: these little breadcrumbs as almost mockery?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's just it's really ritualistic in
Speaker 2: the way that they kind of shamed her in her
Speaker 2: death because she had no makeup on, you know, her
Speaker 2: hair was all fucked up, and she's supposed to be
Speaker 2: this sex symbol and like this beloved you know, it's
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe for Fox's sake, and the way that they
Speaker 2: shamed her in her death and she's naked, she's you know,
Speaker 2: she doesn't have any makeup on. Her face is all
Speaker 2: puffed up and bruised and like from the lividity markings.
Speaker 2: And that's the picture that's that went down, is like
Speaker 2: this is how Marilyn died. Look everybody, and it's just humiliated.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean she went from being basically the
Speaker 3: modern day hell in Detroit to being the Hag of
Speaker 3: the heap from the Labyrinth.
Speaker 2: Yah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And you know I look
Speaker 2: at certain things too, like she lived in less than
Speaker 2: an hour away from the Laurel Canyon. It's like I
Speaker 2: said before, her funeral was eight eight. If you look
Speaker 2: at nineteen sixty two, Elton John wrote that song about
Speaker 2: her Candle in the Wind, and he's referencing like Norma
Speaker 2: Jean turns into Marilyn Monroe. They put so many documentaries
Speaker 2: out about her on Netflix, just trying to sell you
Speaker 2: so hard that she was just a depressed woman and
Speaker 2: that you know, there's nothing suspicious about what happened to
Speaker 2: her at all. And I just I think if it
Speaker 2: was the Kennedys, there would be more evidence leaning towards that.
Speaker 2: And there's actually more evidence that like maybe the mob
Speaker 2: set it up to frame the Kennedys, because it was
Speaker 2: not too long after Maryland died that they blew JFK's
Speaker 2: head off. So they were actively eliminating certain people in
Speaker 2: what could have been like these people know too much
Speaker 2: or we got to take care of this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: A man, did you hear anything about so Walt Shaeffer,
Speaker 1: He was an ambulance man, and he said that he
Speaker 1: was there when an ambulance came to pick Maryland up
Speaker 1: right before midnight and then took her to Santa Monica Hospital,
Speaker 1: and he said, Shaefer said that she was still alive,
Speaker 1: but comatose.
Speaker 2: I don't know how she could be though.
Speaker 1: Unis Murray like later confirmed that in an interview that
Speaker 1: she was still alive. And then doctor Greenson told journalist
Speaker 1: John Sherlock that he was in the ambulance with Maryland
Speaker 1: and that she died in the ambulance and was then
Speaker 1: to okay well and then was taken back to her house.
Speaker 2: You want you want me to tell you what I think?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That is yeah?
Speaker 2: What is that? I think that they are crisis actors
Speaker 2: and this is fodder for like the conspiracy because if
Speaker 2: you like, there are some things that I'd love to
Speaker 2: say like, oh, that could be part of the theory
Speaker 2: that maybe she did get rushed to the hospital and
Speaker 2: died in the ambulance and they brought her body back.
Speaker 2: The only thing is that that wouldn't explain why she
Speaker 2: has had cyanosis. And you can only get syinosis if
Speaker 2: you die immediately. I mean I'm talking seconds, and it's
Speaker 2: not even debatable that she had syinosis. So sometimes I
Speaker 2: think they insert these crisis actors, especially doctor Greenson, who
Speaker 2: is a pathology suspicious Yeah, and then it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: throw an ambulance driver in there, who said she was
Speaker 2: still alive in the amp. I mean it's like they
Speaker 2: almost do certain things to confuse people, and.
Speaker 1: The CIA likes to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put their he put so many theories on
Speaker 2: the table that it makes it impossible to figure out
Speaker 2: what the truth is.
Speaker 1: Exactly, because nothing nothing Unie would say I would ever trust,
Speaker 1: or doctor Gains or fucking Walt Shaeffer, Like, yeah, none
Speaker 1: of those people I'd ever be like, oh, Wow, that's
Speaker 1: really good information.
Speaker 3: The informational soup, you turn the stew into soup. Why
Speaker 3: what by watering everything down?
Speaker 2: Well, and the same thing happened with what with the
Speaker 2: JFK assassination is like they put enough people out there
Speaker 2: as crisis actors to be like, say you saw this,
Speaker 2: Say you saw fucking Lee Harvey climbing up these stairs. Hey,
Speaker 2: say you saw this or that.
Speaker 1: Or there, Because then people say, who is this picked up.
Speaker 5: A bush kalady in there?
Speaker 2: Somehow with the testimony, it's like they put so they
Speaker 2: jumble it up so much much as to make you
Speaker 2: want to not look any further because you're just so
Speaker 2: inundated with information you give up on it.
Speaker 3: Oh Yeah. One of the craziest stats I remember always
Speaker 3: hearing was I remember if it was seven or seventeen
Speaker 3: percent of people of residence in New York City that
Speaker 3: were polled actually saw and heard the planes coming down
Speaker 3: at nine to eleven claim that they saw it or
Speaker 3: heard them, like of people that were literally there during
Speaker 3: the supposed event. Yeah, it was I think twenty seven
Speaker 3: percent claim they've heard it, seventeen percent claim they saw
Speaker 3: and heard it, or as little as seven. It was
Speaker 3: such a crazy low number though.
Speaker 5: And I think chrisis factors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought to myself, like that that's so
Speaker 3: few people you could legitimately pay all those people off
Speaker 3: to say that.
Speaker 2: It's a ridiculously small number. Oh for real, it's such
Speaker 2: a small number that you almost have to start thinking
Speaker 2: that they were paid.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at that one lady that they interviewed
Speaker 1: in the street. She's a Jewish lady. She was like
Speaker 1: just smile and laughing the whole time.
Speaker 5: Because it's so hilarious what happened.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the one everyone was suspecting, Like I was saying,
Speaker 3: they actually look like, what's her face? Lives a TikTok
Speaker 3: chick shichi conspiracy that it's actually her.
Speaker 1: Back then I saw that. I mean, I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: it past them.
Speaker 2: They do stuff on such a level I've covered. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've got hundreds of episodes at this point. But it's
Speaker 2: like I learn a little bit more how deceived we
Speaker 2: are every time I try to cover something, because it's
Speaker 2: like you want to go with one theory and you're like,
Speaker 2: all right, I think this has legs. I think I
Speaker 2: could probably, you know, get some more information on this,
Speaker 2: and this is probably accurate. And then you get five
Speaker 2: minutes into research and something and you're like, well that
Speaker 2: fucking that. Throw that one out, because now I've found
Speaker 2: five You know, it's like they do inundate you with
Speaker 2: so much information and this witness and this guy's underground
Speaker 2: military base whistleblower and this guy this, and it's you
Speaker 2: almost have to just use your discernment at some point
Speaker 2: and be like, what do I feel like it is true? Oh?
Speaker 1: That's what it comes out to. You can't have someone
Speaker 1: else telling you one way or the other. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just had it comes down to you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And something that I have been meaning to say on
Speaker 2: I have this one presentation that I'm working on for
Speaker 2: like a future episode, but I think it's probably important
Speaker 2: to say it now is I have people comment all
Speaker 2: the time and they'll be like, well, you got this
Speaker 2: thing wrong, or you said this wrong, or I googled
Speaker 2: it and this was wrong. And it's like, dude, you
Speaker 2: should be worried. If I was right all the time,
Speaker 2: you should be worried it high content. If like consistently
Speaker 2: I'm batting a thousand, you should be worried about that.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just a regular person that's doing regular research
Speaker 2: like everybody else. And I'll come on and present something
Speaker 2: and I'll think it's right at the time, and maybe
Speaker 2: something comes out later and I was wrong. But it's like,
Speaker 2: if I was consistently right and never made a mistake,
Speaker 2: you should be fucking worried about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, if if somebody told me they googled something,
Speaker 3: I'd probably face palem from that alone. I feel like
Speaker 3: you looked up one soores and you're like, well, now
Speaker 3: you're definitely definitively wrong.
Speaker 2: They will pick the smallest things to be like, well
Speaker 2: you got you said this person owned this and they
Speaker 2: actually didn't. And it was like the the house next door,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, well, I'm so glad you were
Speaker 2: able to figure that out. And yeah that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a human being and I made a fraction of
Speaker 2: a fucking mistake about something, you know, It's like, come on, guys,
Speaker 2: throw it all out.
Speaker 1: I was wrong on that one part. Throw at all.
Speaker 3: They left an excellent review, but it was only very good, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: are Harry Potter fans, but it just reminds me when
Speaker 2: people do that. It's Levo Sa, not Levio Sa. It's
Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ, you're splitting hairs literally, like do you think.
Speaker 3: You're actually gonna lift off the ground after you get
Speaker 3: it right for Costan right, Like, either way that important. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fly if I can't.
Speaker 2: Ninety of the episode was accurate or like even ninety
Speaker 2: five percent of the episode was accurate. But you chose
Speaker 2: a five percentile thing that I just jotted down in
Speaker 2: my notes one day and it ended up not being true. Sure, fine,
Speaker 2: I will live, you will live. The information is still
Speaker 2: really important though, and it's still it's like Alex Jones
Speaker 2: is always batting a thousand. It's it seems like he's
Speaker 2: able to call stuff like Babe Ruth and he'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: I read their white papers, do you. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just it seems like you're never wrong, dude, Like how so.
Speaker 3: Much like you're a little closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like very connected to Yeah, for someone.
Speaker 3: To call me out and be like you thought all
Speaker 3: of the Japanese leadership was replaced with murder hornets, I'm
Speaker 3: just waiting for somebody to like actually unironically accused me
Speaker 3: of that because I jokingly said.
Speaker 2: It was there's just like weird stuff, like there's no
Speaker 2: amount of white papers in the world that could get
Speaker 2: me to Alex Jones level. Being able to call shit
Speaker 2: like that. It's like where you get in the white
Speaker 2: papers that you're talking about. Like, I'm I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty good researcher, and I can't call shit
Speaker 2: the way he does it. Just you should be worried
Speaker 2: when people are constantly right about everything.
Speaker 1: I agree, Oh, he's become someone else. He used to
Speaker 1: be such a good dude. I don't know, he.
Speaker 3: Became a real cheerleader as of late. Yeah, let lost
Speaker 3: the journalistic integrity that he at least once pretended to have.
Speaker 2: I remember when covid broke out. I was really into
Speaker 2: Watch and Info Wars, and he was freaking me out
Speaker 2: with a lot of this stuff, and I had to
Speaker 2: turn it off one day because I was like, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm gonna die soon every time I listen
Speaker 2: to Info Wars shit. And you know, it's like he's
Speaker 2: positioned in a way where he terrifies people, and he's
Speaker 2: right about pretty much everything that he talks about in
Speaker 2: a terrifying way. And I do feel like he's probably
Speaker 2: like an actor playing a role and they feed him
Speaker 2: information and then when he's right and everybody's like, oh god,
Speaker 2: it makes the scary stuff that he says even more terrifying.
Speaker 1: There's no other way he could get the information out
Speaker 1: when he gets it out, and like he's almost setting
Speaker 1: up the playfield as the stuff actually happens. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been inherently suspicious of anyone who gets
Speaker 3: sudden meteoric success, like and that's the thing is, like,
Speaker 3: as much as you want to, as much as these
Speaker 3: guys get upset about the fact that they get accused
Speaker 3: of this stuff, it's just like, yes, it is suspicious
Speaker 3: that three months ago you were shit posting to random
Speaker 3: people and now you're suddenly addressing the White House. There
Speaker 3: is a level of suss about this that you are
Speaker 3: not just gonna shake because you say it's silly. And
Speaker 3: if you keep looking, you'll see him get propped up
Speaker 3: in like rise de partinence all the time, Like people
Speaker 3: were talking about Ian Carroll recently being possibly one of
Speaker 3: the newest editions, but he's really just the most recent guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, don't get me started on that. Listen, there
Speaker 2: is a guy and I don't know, I just want
Speaker 2: to address this because I feel like since you brought
Speaker 2: it up, I should. There's a guy and he doesn't
Speaker 2: ever use his real name or like post pictures of
Speaker 2: himself or anything. But he listened to that Joe Rogan
Speaker 2: episode with Ian Carroll and he took a screenshot of it,
Speaker 2: and he wrote this big thing about Ian Carroll on Instagram,
Speaker 2: and then he ended the caption with He's as bad
Speaker 2: as that chick that went on tinfoil hat and said
Speaker 2: everything wrong about the Laurel Canyon and then tagged me
Speaker 2: whoa and yeah, And I was like, and somebody screenshot
Speaker 2: at it and sent it to me and was like, look,
Speaker 2: they're on attack mode again. And I just it's just
Speaker 2: I don't even know how I get roped into stuff
Speaker 2: like that. It's like I was, I've never been on
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. I don't even know who this fucking guy is.
Speaker 2: That this Ian Carroll, I had never even heard of
Speaker 2: him before, And somehow I get tagged in a post
Speaker 2: about how awful I am and how I get everything
Speaker 2: wrong and I literally get my information.
Speaker 3: Carroll, Is you why you're wrong? Well, it's like.
Speaker 2: I mean, Coop said, he's about to read it right,
Speaker 2: You're you're reading strange scenes, aren't you. Okay, so you'll
Speaker 2: know based on my episode if you listen to it
Speaker 2: on my Laurel Canyon series that I base a lot
Speaker 2: of my research off of Dave McGowan. So how how
Speaker 2: I can be wrong? Is okay, Well, this guy that
Speaker 2: wrote this book, who's been credited as being completely accurate
Speaker 2: and almost everything he ever researched, he must be wrong
Speaker 2: too then, because it's like they plant people to specifically debunk.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this person's always wrong, this person's a
Speaker 2: piece of shit. Don't listen to this podcast. It's like,
Speaker 2: all right, fuck you, first off, and second off, there's
Speaker 2: probably a reason why he's a nameless, faceless dude that
Speaker 2: shit posts on Instagram. And it's like to discredit, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And here's something crazy about this too. About that Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan and Ian Carroll episode, is they reference and it's
Speaker 1: not the first time Dave McGowan's work has been referenced
Speaker 1: on Joe Rogan, but they were talking about the book.
Speaker 1: They mentioned the book, but they will not ever mention
Speaker 1: Dave McGowan's name.
Speaker 2: Odd, isn't it. It's because they don't want people to
Speaker 2: actually get their hands on it and give him credit.
Speaker 3: Well, because if you go look at the info yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, you might get something beside as that curated
Speaker 3: bit of info you're allowed to.
Speaker 2: Know, right, Yeah, one hundred. I always every time I
Speaker 2: open up an episode and I've done some research on
Speaker 2: expanding on Dave's work, I always say, this is based
Speaker 2: on Dave McGowan. I read this book. I'll even like
Speaker 2: reference chapters and blogs and shit that he did, and
Speaker 2: I'll say, if you don't believe me, here, read this book.
Speaker 2: It's chapter nine exactly. Know. It's like, go look and
Speaker 2: read it for yourself. It's not like I'm just sitting
Speaker 2: here making this stuff up.
Speaker 1: That's some weird shit that you got sucked into that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it, that's for sure, But you know,
Speaker 2: it always balances itself out in the end. Because the
Speaker 2: Nephlum Death Squad people reached out to me and they
Speaker 2: were like, we were covering something about Disney and one
Speaker 2: of our listeners said that we shouldn't even cover this
Speaker 2: topic unless we have cosmic peach on and they said
Speaker 2: you were one of the realist ones in the game,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, that's great, because I you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think very highly of myself as anything more
Speaker 2: than just a vessel to like transport reality to people.
Speaker 2: But I do think, you know, for every person out
Speaker 2: there who thinks I'm a shithead, there's like a dozen
Speaker 2: more who think that the information is good and that
Speaker 2: it is important. So I guess that's all I can
Speaker 2: ask for, really, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was gonna mention this. I don't listen
Speaker 1: to a lot of podcasts, especially a lot of podcasts
Speaker 1: that are run by women. They just tend to be
Speaker 1: kind of shitty. Not to hit on women, but dude,
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of stupid podcasts out there run
Speaker 1: by women. They just talk about nonsense. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: you are the only podcast that does what you do that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, Fuck, you can't wait for the next
Speaker 1: one to come out. Fuck, keep going, keep going. This
Speaker 1: shit's awesome.
Speaker 6: I like the conspiracy geeky sparkles right well a lot
Speaker 6: to me because I've tried to listen to female operated
Speaker 6: podcasts in the past, and there's always been some kind
Speaker 6: of hang up for me where I can I can't
Speaker 6: continue to listen to it.
Speaker 1: So there's something that's like not good.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's like they they lack like an X factor.
Speaker 2: That male podcasters always nail and and that's what I
Speaker 2: always have tried to do, and honestly, you've done it,
Speaker 2: thank you. And I think some people get wrapped up
Speaker 2: and like I had, I had one friend who was
Speaker 2: trying to break out into doing some conspiracy podcasting stuff,
Speaker 2: and it always just became about like her image and
Speaker 2: like how she appeared. And it just seemed to me
Speaker 2: that I don't really care what people think about my
Speaker 2: physical appearance as much as it's like, I don't care
Speaker 2: what you think about my voice. I don't care if
Speaker 2: you think I cussed too much. I don't care. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like, just just learn something for Fox's sake, how
Speaker 2: about that. Worry about the rest of that stuff later.
Speaker 1: I love the no filter and you call victims bitches
Speaker 1: and I love it, dude, Like the uh when you
Speaker 1: know fuck face McGee he had the the wood log.
Speaker 1: He was bashing those chicks heads in. He's like anything,
Speaker 1: he took the next bitch and then he'd like went
Speaker 1: over there and fucking fucked her and raped her and
Speaker 1: it took the next bitch just the way he said it.
Speaker 1: I was like, hell, yeah, dude, going hard.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I know, you go to seem like
Speaker 2: we're having a conversation between friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, exactly exactly. That's how this is. Like,
Speaker 1: that's how we do it here. And like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I know that you don't actually me and
Speaker 1: these victims are bitches. You obviously I know that because
Speaker 1: I come from the same ilk as you. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean if I was to describe that
Speaker 2: story to one of my friends, that's how I would
Speaker 2: describe it. Is this guy was clubbing bitches over the head,
Speaker 2: and you know it. So I just try to make
Speaker 2: it relatable for people. I try to make it entertaining
Speaker 2: for people, because that's how you remember shit.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, it is it is, That's how I remembered it.
Speaker 1: And just let's touch on can we touch on the
Speaker 1: Ted Bundy attack on the uh the ky omega kyomega
Speaker 1: that is what was? Yeah, yeah, how the hell this
Speaker 1: motherfucker go in there with a log with some wooden
Speaker 1: lock he found out in the yard and bashed in.
Speaker 1: How many of them were there? Like seven ages?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he taged the couple heads in that day. But
Speaker 2: that the weird thing is there's more than one instance
Speaker 2: in the Ted Bundy saga where he would have had
Speaker 2: legitimately be in two places at one time, and the
Speaker 2: Kyomega Sorority is actually one of those instances where he
Speaker 2: would have had to be abducting Kimberly Leech and be
Speaker 2: miles away at the Kyo Omega Sorority house beaten bitches
Speaker 2: over the head at the same time. And it doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense because there are two things. In particular, they
Speaker 2: did find some type of semen on one of the victims,
Speaker 2: and they found out that whoever nutted on this chick
Speaker 2: had some type of rare genetic condition to wear non
Speaker 2: secretor yeah, and it's like it's its effects like two
Speaker 2: percent of the population of men or something like that,
Speaker 2: and Ted Bundy it doesn't have that, So it should
Speaker 2: have been it should have been ridiculously easy to clear
Speaker 2: him of even being there that night. And the bitemark evidence.
Speaker 1: Because he's off getting Kimberly Lee.
Speaker 2: She's fucking kidnapping, right, which also doesn't fit his victim
Speaker 2: profile because he never had abducted like a twelve year
Speaker 2: old before, which was weird. And she was also like
Speaker 2: bled out and that also didn't fit. That didn't fit
Speaker 2: his his profile either. And so this bite mark evidence
Speaker 2: from the Kyomega house that they landed the death penalty
Speaker 2: on him from just this bite mark evidence. This is
Speaker 2: how they came up with it. And I'm not making
Speaker 2: this shit up at all. They said they found a
Speaker 2: bite mark in the butt cheek of one of the victims.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was Lisa Levy, and they they
Speaker 2: took her to the morgue. They cut this bite mark
Speaker 2: out of her butt cheek. They accidentally dropped it in
Speaker 2: some type of sulfuric acid that completely dissolved the bite mark. Whoops,
Speaker 2: they're bad. So what they had to do was like.
Speaker 1: The NASA technology that somehow went missing in a flood
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Right, So what they had to do to recreate they
Speaker 2: had to recreate this bite mark is they went to
Speaker 2: the prison, they pulled ted Bundy out of his cell,
Speaker 2: They made an impression of his teeth, made it into
Speaker 2: a like a plaster cast. They took that cast down
Speaker 2: to the morgue and they pressed that cast into the
Speaker 2: random butt cheeks of a bunch of cadaver or dead bodies.
Speaker 2: Then they took pictures of the bite mark. Then they
Speaker 2: took that to the trial, and they said, this looks
Speaker 2: just like the one we found on Lisa Levi. Therefore
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy had to be the one that bit this girl.
Speaker 2: Therefore he's the murderer. And they slapped the death penalty
Speaker 2: on him. But they literally fabricated the entire bitemark evidence,
Speaker 2: like the original bite mark was cut out of that
Speaker 2: girl's butt and dissolved in acid, and there's no way
Speaker 2: of comparing the two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could you compare it? You can't, You can't.
Speaker 2: And all the times that Ted Bundy like maintained his
Speaker 2: innocence and I always thought he was full of shit
Speaker 2: because I bought this mainstream narrative that he was this
Speaker 2: monster that lived under everybody's bed. So I went back
Speaker 2: and I watched all these interviews of him, and I'm
Speaker 2: honestly starting to wonder if he's even responsible for half
Speaker 2: of the amounts of murders that they just kind of
Speaker 2: shoved on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to say with these guys, because you
Speaker 1: just don't know. And like, the more you do research
Speaker 1: into all these serial killers who who are like connected
Speaker 1: to military military and what was the one out of Vietnam,
Speaker 1: the UH operation.
Speaker 2: Like, well, there was a bunch that. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: talking like Zodiac Charles Manson. They all went down during
Speaker 2: like the Sixtieks, the Phoenix Program, the Phoenix Project, and.
Speaker 3: Their brains are also addled. You could realistically ask yourself,
Speaker 3: did they even know if they did it right?
Speaker 2: They all have like split personality disorder and shit, that's
Speaker 2: why that gosh, what did we call it?
Speaker 5: Oh, blood Ties.
Speaker 2: If anybody wants more information about these serial killers and
Speaker 2: their connections, you got to go back and listen to
Speaker 2: this Blood Ties series I did with my husband because
Speaker 2: he's actually really good at doing stuff that I would
Speaker 2: have not even put together about, like Charles Manson and
Speaker 2: and shit like that. So, I mean, that's a really
Speaker 2: good series if you just want to learn some shit
Speaker 2: about serial killers. Also, it's in Program to Kill, which
Speaker 2: is a must read. That is an absolute must read.
Speaker 1: That's next on my list, got weird scenes to finish,
Speaker 1: and then it's a yeah, a Program to Kill.
Speaker 2: If you get through that book and you still think
Speaker 2: there are such a thing as serial killers, well, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is a number of like authentic serial
Speaker 2: killers who are just like psychopaths who do stuff, But
Speaker 2: all the sensationalized ones that get their own Netflix special
Speaker 2: Those ones are the ones that you need to question
Speaker 2: if they're even real or not.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I was gonna ask you about this guy
Speaker 1: because he was a huge serial killer got caught and
Speaker 1: I wanted to know because I don't I never hear
Speaker 1: you talk about him the he was in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: He's a cop, the Golden State Killer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my brother actually got really into.
Speaker 1: That guy, Joseph James Diana.
Speaker 2: I need to look into him, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: I see my husband has a theory on this and
Speaker 2: it's a good one.
Speaker 1: Hang on, I'd be so interested to hear that.
Speaker 2: Who did they say the celebrity was that was the
Speaker 2: Golden State Killer? Robin Williams is the Golden State Killer?
Speaker 2: Why did they say that? There was something like he
Speaker 2: was in the area or something during all of that
Speaker 2: and he could possibly be the Golden State Killer. That's
Speaker 2: all it was. There's been there's some stuff that like
Speaker 2: supports Robin Williams possibly being the Golden State Killer. But
Speaker 2: I hadn't ever really this. This was something that my
Speaker 2: husband told me about that I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't have ever put that together. But I'm
Speaker 2: starting to you know, just another one that's kind of
Speaker 2: crazy that again Colby, it's his theory and I'm just
Speaker 2: stealing it, is that Jack Nickel and Ted Bundy have
Speaker 2: so many similarities that they could almost be the same person.
Speaker 2: And Jack Nicholson could have played Ted Bundy, and Ted
Speaker 2: Bundy is just a character with many faces that was
Speaker 2: played by multiple people, Jack Nicholson probably being one of them.
Speaker 1: Don't both of them like they both thought that their
Speaker 1: sister was their their moms or their sisters or whatever
Speaker 1: had that go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they both grew up thinking that their their their
Speaker 2: mom was their sister and that their grandma was their mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They both don't really have birth certificates. There's no record
Speaker 2: of them ever being born, both of them, and in
Speaker 2: if you really want to get into it, in the
Speaker 2: Shining with Jack Nicholson in the book that Stephen King wrote,
Speaker 2: the Volkswagen was supposed to be read and they changed
Speaker 2: it to a y Volkswagen, the same as Ted Bundy drove.
Speaker 2: And there are photos of if you compare them, like
Speaker 2: young Jack Nicholson and Ted Bundy when he grew his
Speaker 2: beard out and was in Colorado that they look like
Speaker 2: they could pass for the same person almost, and they
Speaker 2: have such similar stories that it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's their stories are batshit crazy, and it's.
Speaker 2: Again like for me, the name Ted Bundy is the character,
Speaker 2: and then multiple people could play this character. And Jack
Speaker 2: Nicholson is tied up in all kinds of weird stuff
Speaker 2: with the Laurel Canyon, tons of.
Speaker 1: Weird shit Jack Nicholson because it was his house that
Speaker 1: Roman Polanski went to and raped that little girl one
Speaker 1: hundred paid fucking lawyer fees and shit.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, absolutely, So. I mean the further you dig
Speaker 2: into it, the more you start to like wonder if
Speaker 2: these serial killers aren't just like characters that are created.
Speaker 2: They're the Boogeyman, Charles Manson and all this shit, and
Speaker 2: like they're just people are just playing these characters.
Speaker 1: I fully agree with a lot of that, Like some
Speaker 1: of them are definitely like that man. So many of
Speaker 1: these characters, like seventies show that fucking dude, he has
Speaker 1: like two dead girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah he dated Britney Murphy for a while.
Speaker 8: Too, dated Brittany Murphy. Yep, yeah, so he has two
Speaker 8: dead ex girlfriends. I remember and he was gonna go
Speaker 8: after the petos Oh project. Fuck what was that heroically
Speaker 8: with with the other seventies actress? Me though, Yeah, because
Speaker 8: they're like married.
Speaker 1: Aren't they?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah they are, they are. He was married
Speaker 2: to fucking the old ass fucking Demi.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you remember that, Oh yeah, cradle robber.
Speaker 2: And he was like, I don't even care that she's
Speaker 2: got you know, arthritis and cataracts and stuff. It just
Speaker 2: turns me on.
Speaker 1: Fucking weirdo And so wonder why he's so famous because
Speaker 1: he fucking did some sacrifices.
Speaker 2: Probably shit, I mean they're all guilty of it to
Speaker 2: some degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, fuck, Julie, that's three hours, three and a
Speaker 1: half hours here. I was going to get in. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Tuesday. Well, but we should do
Speaker 1: another show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should do another show.
Speaker 2: For sure. I'm probably gonna need to eat something here soon,
Speaker 2: and uh, my bladder is screaming. But I had an
Speaker 2: absolute blast with you guys. This is great. I obviously
Speaker 2: I've had so many topics that I've covered on my show.
Speaker 2: We could do as many, uh you know, part two,
Speaker 2: part three, whatever you want to do?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you I can do it Part two with
Speaker 1: fucking Julia.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's fucking let's roll it out there. So
Speaker 1: tell the listeners where they can find you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes, So, Cosmic Peach podcast is available wherever
Speaker 2: you listen to podcasts, extuft for.
Speaker 5: YouTube and YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck them. And they really just started giving me
Speaker 2: strikes for probably some of my more explicit episodes, and
Speaker 2: I took myself off before they could give me the
Speaker 2: third one because I was just tired of it.
Speaker 1: Good choice, good choice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I decided to end the relationship, not them, So.
Speaker 1: Don't give them the fucking pleasure of doing it, right.
Speaker 2: I have my own show where I feature like my
Speaker 2: guest appearances and things that I'm researching, and then if
Speaker 2: anyone is familiar with the Cult of Conspiracy podcast, I
Speaker 2: have an episode that I do for them once a
Speaker 2: week on Saturdays. If you want to check that out.
Speaker 2: And all of the videos for my episodes and early
Speaker 2: access and some bonus stuff is available on my Patreon.
Speaker 2: You can search it Cosmic Peach. It's called Room two
Speaker 2: three seven and yeah, you'll see all the videos and
Speaker 2: you'll get really access and some bonus stuff over there.
Speaker 2: So either way, I've I've been feeling the support recently,
Speaker 2: and I'm just hoping it keeps growing.
Speaker 1: You've put out excellent content, excellent excellent content. And since
Speaker 1: ourry we're gonna be going on your show here, we'll
Speaker 1: throw out should we just throw out our contact in
Speaker 1: for it now?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: And since I've just recently discovered your guys' show, I've
Speaker 2: been I've been listening to some episodes and I feel
Speaker 2: like the listeners would enjoy that too, if you could
Speaker 2: tell them where to find you.
Speaker 1: You can find the Paranautica podcasts anywhere you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 1: and yeah a cast as well, or just anywhere podcasts are.
Speaker 1: If you want to email us, email us at Paranautica
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. That's p A R A n
Speaker 1: A U G H T I C A dot com, Twitter,
Speaker 1: Big thing, Twitter X follow us there. That's pretty much
Speaker 1: the only social media were rocking, because who knows where.
Speaker 3: All this is going to go. Alon does not like
Speaker 3: us much.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't even have Twitter. I probably should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to get off of Twitter and bring
Speaker 1: us somewhere else to like gab or something.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I never Instagram I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never plugged my Instagram, but that's like I
Speaker 2: probably should because that's the only way people can contact
Speaker 2: me if they want me to like come on their show,
Speaker 2: because that's where my link tree is. So I guess
Speaker 2: my Instagram is Cosmic dot Peach dot podcast, and that's
Speaker 2: where you'll find like all my links and stuff in
Speaker 2: my link tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty easy, but I don't I don't really.
Speaker 2: Post like life changing stuff on there. It's just like
Speaker 2: cool memes and like the occasional selfie. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: have one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't use it either, not until I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to. But like, Twitter's the only place we
Speaker 1: have our shit right now.
Speaker 3: I've been manning to do more work on the individual
Speaker 3: dot calm. I'm actually gonna try to upload some more
Speaker 3: essays to it.
Speaker 2: Oh you got a you got a website.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't get maintained very much, so I don't
Speaker 3: really talk about it terribly often. Not a paranautica website,
Speaker 3: now my spiritualism website. It's a side project.
Speaker 2: Well shit, I am so glad to meet both of you,
Speaker 2: and fucking I'll come on whenever, whenever.
Speaker 1: Year will have me absolutely I want to do a
Speaker 1: John Benet Ramsey one. Fricking all these serial killer ones
Speaker 1: programmed to kill.
Speaker 2: Even yeah, deep deeper details in future episodes. I'm down
Speaker 2: to cover whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go.
Speaker 3: Into how Jim Morrison effectively ate the equivalent of the
Speaker 3: scene from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Levels of
Speaker 3: acid every day?
Speaker 1: Oh god, Oh dude, Mama, Papa Bear, whatever the fuck?
Speaker 1: What are they? Mama's and papa's. Yes, that whole fucking
Speaker 1: that family.
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, yeah, a lot of incestuous shit. Actually, you know,
Speaker 2: on our next episode, it'd be cool. I'd like to
Speaker 2: probably do some stuff about the moms and the papas
Speaker 2: and how it's connected to the Black Dahlia murder.
Speaker 1: Oh George Hordell and shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so we could get into that next
Speaker 2: time too.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude, I am so down like all this
Speaker 1: stuff interest. There's nothing that doesn't interest me as long
Speaker 1: as in the Weird, Dark and Cob world. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, I'm into it same even aliens. If
Speaker 1: I have to go there, if I have to, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I have to, all right, I don't mind going there. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine, you know, I'd love to go there. All right, everyone,
Speaker 1: just as usual, take care of yourselves, take care of
Speaker 1: one another. Love y'all.
Speaker 3: Cheers everybody.
Speaker 1: I say.
Speaker 2: You says I say go.
Speaker 7: You say goodbye, I say hello, Hello, Hello. I don't
Speaker 7: know why you say goodbye. I say hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you say goodbye.
Speaker 2: I say hello. I say how.
Speaker 1: You say no.
Speaker 2: You say why, I say, I don't