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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to another episode of Haplejack Still the Pod.

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<v Speaker 3>I am your host, Alex Golders with me has always

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<v Speaker 3>his doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Justin Joy and Daniel Donavidian.

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<v Speaker 3>I am back from vacation ready to hop back in

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<v Speaker 3>and joining us on today's episode is Martin Jensen of

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<v Speaker 3>Yahoo Sports and also HBO. Because of the HBO thing,

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<v Speaker 3>his face is censored. No, just kidding, it's because of

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<v Speaker 3>the FI. But Martin, how are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 5>I am doing well and look first first time visitor

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<v Speaker 5>on this podcast, so thank you for having me first

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<v Speaker 5>and foremost. Secondarily, I just want to apologize in advance

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<v Speaker 5>if my Internet is gonna just crap out on everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>So I am hoping and I'm praying with everything I got,

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<v Speaker 5>even as an atheist, that everything will work out.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in you, and you know, dear listener, if

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<v Speaker 3>you have any deities that you rock with, no judgment here,

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<v Speaker 3>but we need their powers for Morton's Internet connections.

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<v Speaker 5>So please, yes, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>We could use a little bit of rain here in

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<v Speaker 6>Mexico City. It's pretty hot and dry, as you can

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<v Speaker 6>see from me trying not to die in my office

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<v Speaker 6>on this very warm, almost August.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, Rain City in Brooklyn. It's just rain for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy of joys, Daniel, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good. I'm in the land of Lebron aka Pennsylvania. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little a little humid here, but I've been

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying the summer and now the off season is really

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get dry. But a lot of stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about to carry us through though.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, it sure is. We do have enough to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the part of the off season where

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<v Speaker 3>moves are largely settling, and so we get to do

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<v Speaker 3>some analysis time. And that's exactly what we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do with Morton. We're going to break down the Western Conference,

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<v Speaker 3>which the Celtics do not play in, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>both from a broader league wide perspective and also how

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<v Speaker 3>it affects the sees. But first, as always, we will

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the news.

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<v Speaker 4>Daniel.

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<v Speaker 3>You have some news about Jason Tatum's golf tournament. You

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<v Speaker 3>want to just go right into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, he hosted his annual golf tournament in Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's his sixth year now doing it. And

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<v Speaker 2>always familiar Celtics people show up this year. It was

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<v Speaker 2>Derek White, which is good to see Daniel Tice, which

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<v Speaker 2>was a bit of a surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go Daniel Tyson's back taking a break from Pablo

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<v Speaker 4>Torre's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that was bad timing of that news.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tatum's always friend with some random player on the Celtics,

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<v Speaker 2>like Javonte Green, Daniel Tice. It's never the superstar guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it's some random role players. Oh and Mike Conley was

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<v Speaker 2>there as well, which is good for the team chemistry,

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<v Speaker 2>new team. But yeah, just good to see him doing

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<v Speaker 2>that for his charity.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Brad Stevens has got one roster spot open, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know that Daniel Tice has had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>stints with the Boston Celtics, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's against one more? Not me, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard it here first, Brad Stevens, Daniel Tice, last

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<v Speaker 3>roster spot Let's get it. He also had some other

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<v Speaker 3>things to say Daniel, which left the internet in a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a kerfuffle. What do you what do

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<v Speaker 3>you got on that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was I believe a Jordan camp. He's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been doing this like summer tour of stops promoting

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Jordan brand all that like he was in he

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<v Speaker 2>was in the Bronx or in New York recently, bet

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<v Speaker 2>where exactly though, He's been all over and I think

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago he had this camp and he was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the kids and they posted it on his story

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram and he mentioned being teammates with people who

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<v Speaker 2>think they're the smartest player in the room or something

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<v Speaker 2>along those lines. I don't have the exact wording in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me, but obviously the internet went crazy with

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<v Speaker 2>that because people will remember this report if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it that. I think it just came from

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Coward and he probably knows some anonymous guy that

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<v Speaker 2>that some people thought Jalen Brown thought he was the

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<v Speaker 2>smartest person in the room. So people thought Tatum might

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<v Speaker 2>have been referencing that. Me personally, I think we're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of jumping to conclusions of it here he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking to that would never happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it got picked up, of course by like

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<v Speaker 2>all the aggregators, so that's going crazy. It has like

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<v Speaker 2>millions of views and people were taking out as a

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<v Speaker 2>shot at Jalen Brown. But I don't know, is that

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<v Speaker 2>a camp he's talking to kids? I don't think Tatum

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<v Speaker 2>is online as a lot of people in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>fans fear media sphere are, so he might not exactly

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<v Speaker 2>see everything that we've seen, and I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>seem more coincidental to me. Of course, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>fully what's going on with that relationship, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>fully buy into that conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Morton, do you have thoughts on the various clickbait stories

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<v Speaker 3>around Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown taking secret chats at

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<v Speaker 3>each other on the Internet?

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<v Speaker 5>How come again, guys, my apologies for the internet crapping out.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone isn't praying hard enough.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all good.

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<v Speaker 3>We wanted your enlightened take on the supposed internet sniping

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<v Speaker 3>between Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, there wasn't any That's my take. I think

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<v Speaker 5>that is just such a preposterous summer thing where people

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<v Speaker 5>are trying to create headlines out of thin air for

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely nothing. Jason Tatum has repeatedly, over the course of

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<v Speaker 5>several years, been the corner of Jalen Brown. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's just such a ridiculous assumption that all of a

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<v Speaker 5>sudden he should stop being behind his guy like like,

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<v Speaker 5>what should be the motivational factor here, I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 5>They want a championship together, for crying out loud. I

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<v Speaker 5>think there will always be mutual admiration for one another.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they had some issues, I believe in the

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of their careers, trying to figure out their roles.

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<v Speaker 5>But like they just they that's so long ago they

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<v Speaker 5>spent how how many years was it they spent together?

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<v Speaker 5>Like seven, eight years something along those lines, like nine Jesus,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there we go. So I just don't think

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<v Speaker 5>there's anything but respect and admiration on his front. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think we tend as a society to read into

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<v Speaker 5>stuff all the time and for no reason whatsoever, which

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<v Speaker 5>is really ridiculous. So I'm just gonna say, no iping

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<v Speaker 5>involved here, guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, wildly character for Tatum.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The only the only sniping that I see Jason Tatum

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<v Speaker 3>regularly engaging in is on the basketball court from deep

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<v Speaker 3>adjust kidding, please get your three point percent, Jason Tatum.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe you, all right, So moving on to me,

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<v Speaker 3>as Catah is going to be playing with Portugal in

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<v Speaker 3>the Basketball World Cup qualifier in August. For euro hoops fans,

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<v Speaker 3>go check out Kata doing stuff with Portugal. We'll see

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<v Speaker 3>other quick news tidbits, and then we're going to jump

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<v Speaker 3>into the actual meat of the pod. Sounds like the

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics were at one point pursuing erstwhile nemesis Lebron James in.

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<v Speaker 4>Free agency this off season. For Dave McManamon.

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<v Speaker 3>Morton, I'm curious about your thoughts of the enemies to

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<v Speaker 3>buddies that never really emerged here with the Celtics rumored

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<v Speaker 3>interest in Lebron, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Look, I wouldn't be surprised if the Ce's

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<v Speaker 5>actually pursued Lebron like they Why wouldn't they even if

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<v Speaker 5>you had the animosity of the many years of heat

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<v Speaker 5>Celtics even Cavs Celtics rivalries, Like, you're in the business

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<v Speaker 5>of getting better. You're always in the business of trying

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<v Speaker 5>to achieve a championship level contender. Adding Lebron depending on

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the financial compensation. Of course that's a topic

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<v Speaker 5>for a different day. But like whenever you can add Lebron,

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<v Speaker 5>even at age forty one or you know, going on

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<v Speaker 5>forty two, I mean, you do it and you try

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out stuff as you go along, Like he

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<v Speaker 5>probably would have been spending a lot of time on

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<v Speaker 5>the ball, which frankly, that's fine because that frees up

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<v Speaker 5>the shooters, that freeze update them a little bit more. So. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I absolutely believe there is something to it. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>hate the fact that they had him on their radar.

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<v Speaker 5>If they did, I mean, you would be a fool

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<v Speaker 5>if you're not in the position of the Celtics and

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<v Speaker 5>actually react on it. So like, without being too mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, duh.

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<v Speaker 4>Martin, are you implying that signing Lebron James for the

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<v Speaker 4>minimum will make your team better at basketball?

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I look, it's very controversial. I know, I

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<v Speaker 5>understand that. I appreciate that, but I am actually going

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<v Speaker 5>out on a limb here and saying that that would

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<v Speaker 5>be a very wise decision.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, really shocking takes. I know, this is crazy stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that we're getting more than really really offering a wild

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<v Speaker 3>guest experience.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I'm coming in just firing shotguns all over

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<v Speaker 5>the blaze.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 3>Another related Tidbitti news, apparently Boston also tried to trade

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brown to the Golden State Warriors at the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>Per Shams, he mentioned something about the Celtics basically asking

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<v Speaker 3>for four first round picks, which is what they have

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<v Speaker 3>been asking for a lot of teams until they traded

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<v Speaker 3>him for Paul George and two first round picks instead

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<v Speaker 3>in a bunch of seconds. What if anything, does this

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<v Speaker 3>tell us JQ daniel thoughts on Brad potentially offering Jalen

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<v Speaker 3>Brown at the deadline in Golden State in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of what was at the time a career season for him.

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<v Speaker 6>This tells me that they've been trying to move him,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe as soon as he signed his current contract, just

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<v Speaker 6>because of the reasons. You know, this has been my

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<v Speaker 6>least favorite I told you so ever in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>them needing to trade Jalen Brown, and even I thought

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<v Speaker 6>it was going to be further down the road, like

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<v Speaker 6>after the season, after this coming season. So this tells

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<v Speaker 6>me that the Celtics really had been thinking about moving

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<v Speaker 6>on from him for quite some time, and probably almost

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<v Speaker 6>certainly it's the contract.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been pretty shocking at the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 3>with the Celtics kind of turning the corner and starting

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<v Speaker 3>to really emerge as a legitimately good Eastern Conference playoff

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<v Speaker 3>team to deal Jalen Brown to Golden State for picks

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<v Speaker 3>during the middle of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Season that he just had.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have been really something, and I certainly would

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<v Speaker 3>have been surprised, to say the least.

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<v Speaker 4>Daniel Morton any thoughts on that, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have too much to add. I think Justin saw correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it kind of shows you what the market

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<v Speaker 2>was at the time and how it sort of fell.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm still not on board where I'm like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the market was so high and obviously lowered, so the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they got him for Paul Georgian picks is

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<v Speaker 2>like fine, Like it's understandable. I still don't really agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that. I think you're trading guy like Jalen Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after he finished sixth in MVP voting. You would

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe, like Justin said, wait, a little obviously that

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<v Speaker 2>started talking about it. But the Warriors are probably not

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<v Speaker 2>beating themselves up over this, but because four first round

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<v Speaker 2>a little more, but I don't really see much optimism

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<v Speaker 3>Reportedly, the reason that the Warriors balked at the deal

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<v Speaker 3>is because they were skeptical about the idea of Jalen

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<v Speaker 3>Brown being the franchise guy. After Steph Curry, Yeah, Morton,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think about this? And then let's keep

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean quick thoughts here is I would agree

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<v Speaker 5>last season. Because now we're past July first, so we

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<v Speaker 5>can say last season, what he did last season was

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<v Speaker 5>So I kind of understand why the Warriors would be

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, all right, well it's about that time Morton.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the The name of the pod is Habichak

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<v Speaker 3>stole the pod, and you are going to steal the

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<v Speaker 3>pod as our guest of the day, So go ahead

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<v Speaker 4>What do you got for us here?

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<v Speaker 5>Seriously, we have to talk about Spider Man brain New

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<v Speaker 5>Day because like I'm a superhero Garner, like I'm a geek,

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<v Speaker 5>if you haven't seen it. I'm just gonna say this

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<v Speaker 5>was by far the most authentic Spider Man movie that's

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<v Speaker 5>ever been made. The fact that we and like I

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<v Speaker 5>This is something to look forward to. Unlike the previous

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<v Speaker 5>they've lowered the amount of CGI when he's in a

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<v Speaker 5>The right decision to go with felt so much more

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<v Speaker 5>like prime Spidy, like we're we're getting you know, h

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<v Speaker 5>twenty seven Michael Jordan up in this one, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>where we are with Spidey, and it's insanely good. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just gonna recommend to everyone, like, rush to the theater

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<v Speaker 5>and go watch it. It's I was just blown away.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to get some put some good vibes into

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<v Speaker 5>this one, and I saw it last night. Hasn't come

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<v Speaker 5>out of my mind yet. Like I'm literally considering going

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<v Speaker 5>back and rewatching it in the theater, which I never do.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys like I never go back to watch twice I am.

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<v Speaker 5>I am sorely tempted. That's how good it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's gonna have a high bar for me to

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<v Speaker 3>clear because I believe that Sam Miami's Spider Man two

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<v Speaker 4>Genre of superhero films. There's so much sauce in that movie.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, So it's a high bar to clear for me,

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<v Speaker 3>but I will see it and we'll have to see

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<v Speaker 3>where we go from there. Thoughts on the upcoming Spider

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<v Speaker 3>Man movies, Daniel Justin or older ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Frankly, I got tickets, so I'm really excited. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was already kind of sold on this movie, but Morton,

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<v Speaker 2>you just got me really excited.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>My hot take, Alex is that I kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the Tom Holland ones better than the Toby maguire ones.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure I can get on board, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I might be a generational thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that's not the most popular take and

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<v Speaker 2>that the Spider movies are my absolute favorite. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>still waiting on that third one next year.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, will that one ever come out?

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully next year? Hopefully or yeah, next year, because if not,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be there's gonna be an internet meltdown because

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been hearing that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've been hearing that it's really good in a

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a big Spidy person. I have a question

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<v Speaker 6>for y'all that is tangentially related. It's a fairly recent adaptation,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess of Spider Man. I guess it's more like

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<v Speaker 6>an alternate Marvel, alternate universe of Nicholas Cage Spider Noir.

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<v Speaker 4>Have y'all seen it? What do you think of it?

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<v Speaker 3>But here's what I will say is I am a

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<v Speaker 3>huge Nicholas Cage supporter, and so I should see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have been locked into a bunch of other things.

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<v Speaker 4>Like kind of into it.

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<v Speaker 6>I was surprised because it looked really kitchy at first,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Cage listen if you want Cage to ham

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<v Speaker 3>it up. There is literally nobody better in the game

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<v Speaker 3>right now at going all in, and so I could

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<v Speaker 3>see a world in which that's very good, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have not seen it alas Morton, Daniel, have you seen.

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<v Speaker 5>This not yet on my list? On my list? I,

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, I just moved, and so I don't

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<v Speaker 5>I need some internet to actually make that thing go.

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<v Speaker 5>So when that has been settled, that is on like

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<v Speaker 3>Understandable. Well, you know, Donovan Mitchell isn't the only Spider

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<v Speaker 3>Man in town when it comes to discussion topics on

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast. Thank you so much for a very good steal, Morton.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be checking it out at some point. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of stuff to do right now, but

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<v Speaker 3>at some point I'll be able to squeak away to

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<v Speaker 3>the movie theater and check that out, and maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>will top Sam Mirani Spider Man two, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure anyway. So Martin we brought you here to break

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<v Speaker 3>down the Western Conference. We are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the West both on its own in a vacuum,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna start off really quickly with just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>taking stop as far as like where the Western Conference finished.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just pulling it up on my phone last year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's on there. It's on there, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>If you look great, If you look great to the right,

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<v Speaker 4>look at that clever little wit. The intern was actually

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Okay, I'm just pulling this up now, my computers

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<v Speaker 3>going to read it off of my phone regardless. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you Intern for your hard work. So the Oklahoma City

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<v Speaker 3>Thunder topped the Western Conference at sixty four and eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>The San Antonio Spurs were in second place, the eventual

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<v Speaker 3>Western Conference winners at sixty two and twenty, followed up

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<v Speaker 3>by Denver at fifty four and twenty eight. Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 3>Lakers Clockton on the fourth seed fifty three and twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>The Houston Rockets were fifty two and thirty in the

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<v Speaker 3>five The Minnesota Timberwolves went forty nine and thirty three

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<v Speaker 3>to clean the sixth seed, the Portland Trailblazers forty two

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<v Speaker 3>and forty to go to seventh seed, and the Phoenix

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<v Speaker 3>Suns got the eight seed at forty five and thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Clippers got the ninth seed at forty two

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<v Speaker 3>and forty and the Golden State Warriors rounded out the

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<v Speaker 3>play in picture at thirty seven and forty five. The

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty six and fifty six, followed by the Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>Mavericks at twenty six and fifty six as well. New

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<v Speaker 3>Orleans got that on the tiebreaker. The Memphis Grizzlies rounded

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<v Speaker 3>out the let's see, that's the thirteenth spot twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>third and fifty seven. The Sacramento Kings had a dismal

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two and sixty season, and the Utah Jazz finished

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<v Speaker 3>with a tie for them in the worst record, got

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<v Speaker 3>it on tiebreakers at twenty two and sixty and we're

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<v Speaker 3>rewarded with Darren Peterson for all their hard work. So

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<v Speaker 3>that was the Western Conference last year. And what we're

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<v Speaker 3>the players that they added, Daniel is going to tell

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<v Speaker 3>us who they lost, and Justin is going to inform

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<v Speaker 3>us about any relevant injuries. We're just going to bomb

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<v Speaker 3>right through that, and then we are going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about which of these teams looks like a contender Tier

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<v Speaker 3>one contender, a Tier two contender, A to your three contender.

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<v Speaker 4>Which will break down all that, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some other questions broadly around the state of

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<v Speaker 3>teams in the West. Finally, we are going to project

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<v Speaker 3>explain a little more when we get there. But basically

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<v Speaker 3>how it's going to work is Morton, Justin and Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>are going to draft kind of snake gish team snake style.

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<v Speaker 3>Are going to draft different teams as to where they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to finish one through fifteen. If there's a tie break,

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<v Speaker 4>It's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, really quickly, what is every Western team done? We'll

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<v Speaker 3>start with the Dallas Mavericks, who added Santi al Dama,

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<v Speaker 3>Zachary Risa Schet via trade, and Marcus Sasser Daniel who

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<v Speaker 3>left the Dallas Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they lost Chris Middleton, Ryan Nemhard, Martin Bagley, and A. J. Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>So no huge subtractions honestly.

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<v Speaker 4>coming off of, So we'll see how he looks when.

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<v Speaker 5>The season starts.

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<v Speaker 4>We sure will.

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<v Speaker 3>The Denver Nuggets are at least for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>running back the same roster with a big old Peyton

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<v Speaker 3>Watson size question mark attached to that. He is still

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<v Speaker 3>in RFA negotiations, but they did bring in Marvin Bagley

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<v Speaker 4>Do they lose anybody Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tim Harroway junior believe he went to the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>and they almost lost Spencer Jones, but he came back

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<v Speaker 2>and they matched the offer. But not a very busy

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<v Speaker 3>Denver Okay see almost poach Spencer Jones away. No major injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>So we will move on to the Golden State Warriors,

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<v Speaker 3>who have not added anybody. I'm pretty sure, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think the Warriors have added a single player in

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<v Speaker 3>the off season other than yax O Lendberg who they

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<v Speaker 3>drafted and Daniel Who have they lost?

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<v Speaker 2>They lost BC Legend, Quinton Post.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodbye Quentin Post. Yeah, I hope you have fun. He's

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<v Speaker 3>in Memphis right now. I think yeah, maybe maybe. And

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<v Speaker 3>then injuries are the story with this team, justin what's

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<v Speaker 3>what's going.

426
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<v Speaker 6>On that Jimmy Butler Moses Moody both dealing with some

427
00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.880
<v Speaker 6>lower extremity issues. They will be out to.

428
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<v Speaker 4>Start the season.

429
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.480
<v Speaker 6>They may come into action at some point during the season,

430
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<v Speaker 6>but that is TBD.

431
00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:16.799
<v Speaker 3>The Houston Rockets added Bogdan Bogdanovic and former Celtics and

432
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Ime Udoka standout defensive player of the Year guard Marcus

433
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Smart who if they.

434
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Lost Dorian Phinney Smith and Josh Kobe so gained a

435
00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.119
<v Speaker 2>little defense? Lost low defense?

436
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:33.119
<v Speaker 4>And are there any injury questions with this roster?

437
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.400
<v Speaker 6>In a very Kyrie esque sort of way, we have

438
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<v Speaker 6>a Fred van Vliet potentially returning to action. From what

439
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 6>I hear, he is getting healthy and looks like he's

440
00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 6>ready to come back to the court, so he probably

441
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.119
<v Speaker 6>will be back on the court, but again we'll see

442
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.839
<v Speaker 6>how effective he is as a smaller guard on the

443
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.519
<v Speaker 6>wrong side of the age curve in theory.

444
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<v Speaker 3>The Los Angeles Clippers have added Brandon Ingram and Grady

445
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Dick to their roster. They also have definitely added Ry

446
00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Hachimura and John A. Brew As of yesterday Salary donc

447
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:06.960
<v Speaker 3>trade from Philly. We'll have to see if Brandon Ingram

448
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:09.880
<v Speaker 3>and Grady Dick are actually Los Angeles Clippers.

449
00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.039
<v Speaker 4>Heading in to this coming year. Who have they lost?

450
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:12.480
<v Speaker 5>Daniel?

451
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 2>So the Clippers lost Bogdanovitch, John Collins, and of course,

452
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<v Speaker 2>as we're probably gonna talk about for the next few weeks,

453
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi hypothetically, now it feels maybe they didn't lose him

454
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<v Speaker 2>after all.

455
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Who knows.

456
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.880
<v Speaker 2>It's still under investigation. It's said from the ESPNA could

457
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<v Speaker 2>last into next year two. I have a feeling cow

458
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I might be playing some games for the Clippers still, but.

459
00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 3>That would be a messy outcome today the least. We'll

460
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<v Speaker 3>talk more about that later. The Los Angeles Lakers notably

461
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<v Speaker 3>added Walker Kessler for the price a high price of

462
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<v Speaker 3>four first round picks, along with Colin Sexton, Quentin Grimes,

463
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<v Speaker 3>Sandro Mamukeshvilli, Kevon Looney, Latiste Tible, Jaden Hardy, and Zaire Willilliams.

464
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<v Speaker 3>Busy offseason for the Los Angeles Lakers. Who did they

465
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<v Speaker 3>lose Daniel? There were some notable folks on this.

466
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<v Speaker 2>List, of course Lebron James, but not a son. DeAndre

467
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>is still there, yeah, DeAndre, in which I don't think

468
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:18.200
<v Speaker 2>any Lakers fan is going to be mad about. Ruey Hachimoor,

469
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>who we just talked about, Marcus Smart who we just

470
00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:23.559
<v Speaker 2>talked about. Luke Kunario actually had some good minutes for them,

471
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 2>and then Jackson Hayes two.

472
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.319
<v Speaker 3>The Jackson Hayes one is just a little crazy given

473
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:31.599
<v Speaker 3>how much he was riding specifically for Luka Doncriche to

474
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<v Speaker 3>the point that he changed his citizenship to Slovenian. But

475
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 3>nonetheless I digress. The Memphis Grizzlies added Jeremy Grant via

476
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 3>trade with a notable player leaving them in that trade.

477
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 3>They also added Isaiah Beef Stewart and then DeAngelo Russell,

478
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<v Speaker 3>Chris Murray, the aforementioned Quentin Post from the Golden State Warriors,

479
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.920
<v Speaker 3>as well as A. J. Johnson, and they drafted some

480
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 3>guy out a duke that seems pretty promising in Cameron

481
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Booze Daniel.

482
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:02.599
<v Speaker 4>Who did they lose?

483
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 2>They lost Justin's favorite, Santi Albama. They just and of

484
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>course they traded away John Morant to the Blazers.

485
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 4>Yep. Any injuries with this team.

486
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Richie Saunders, Jacoby? I think maybe is it Richie

487
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.000
<v Speaker 3>or Jacoby? I don't know, it's one of them.

488
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.279
<v Speaker 6>I think it's Richie Saunders, the draft the draftic guy

489
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 6>who came in. He he has an alter I think,

490
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:33.440
<v Speaker 6>and he shouldn't be able to play at some point

491
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<v Speaker 6>in the season.

492
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 4>But from my understanding, it's gonna be a while.

493
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I got a brush up on my h my Memphis

494
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 3>deep bench guys clearly.

495
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

496
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<v Speaker 3>The Minnesota Timberwolves added, notably LaMelo Ball along with Mogay

497
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Trey Lyles. And is that Dafonte Green I see there?

498
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Or is it Jeff Green? It's one of those Greets

499
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.599
<v Speaker 3>the other Green? Yeah, well there you go. Yeah, so

500
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.400
<v Speaker 3>they added those guys, Lamello, pretty interesting trade Dan the

501
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 3>other side of that trade.

502
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the trade away nas Reed, which is obviously a

503
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>big deal. They lost Julius Randall believe it went to

504
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the Nets. Mike Conley. Of course, veteran went to the

505
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Celtics and they lost slow mo O.

506
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Kylie Anderson, Julius Randall. If you're looking for stuff to

507
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 3>do in Brooklyn, hit me up. I got you any injuries,

508
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 3>just him for this.

509
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 6>Team, the big ragou. He is also recovering from an

510
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 6>achilles injury if I remember correctly, and we'll be back

511
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 6>at some point in the season, hopefully, but not to start.

512
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 3>The New Orleans Pelicans have not done a whole lot

513
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 3>this offseason, Daniel, what are your thoughts?

514
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>They only lost Kevon Looney man. Who knows what this

515
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>team is doing?

516
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>This is une it back, hilarious offseason trade away, no assets,

517
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>run it back with eleventh seeded team that hasn't really

518
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>done anything even went healthy.

519
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Who knows what's gonna happen to them, but it might

520
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 2>not be pretty.

521
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Trey Murphy is reportedly worth three first round picks, so

522
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, surely let be getting something back for that soon.

523
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 3>The Oklahoma City thunder that the second apron clock is ticking.

524
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 4>Daniel has more. What do we got?

525
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:09.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

526
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>They lost all members of their previous championship team, lou Dort,

527
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.599
<v Speaker 2>which is a pretty big deal for their defense Aaron

528
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Wiggins and then Isaiah Joe who gave him some shooting.

529
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>So all guys were kind of beloved there for the

530
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 2>most part. And the Celtics, I mean we suffered the

531
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 2>same thing that the time is not on some of

532
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>those teams side.

533
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 4>No, for sure.

534
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.759
<v Speaker 3>The Phoenix Suns and notably added Miles Bridges via trade

535
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 3>as well as Luke Canard who did they.

536
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:36.519
<v Speaker 4>Lose in that trade.

537
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Grayson allen and then they also lost Royce O'Neil, So both.

538
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Shooters and the Portland Trailblazers made the trade of their own,

539
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 3>acquiring John Morant. They also added Micah Potter and Brandon Carlson.

540
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Who did they trade away for John Rant? We obviously

541
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>mentioned Jeremy Grant earlier.

542
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that got lost Chris Murray and Matisse Tible, but

543
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 2>that was in the trade, right.

544
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, that was separate dealing, I believe, Yeah, and

545
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 3>letting him walk. The Zacarmano Kings have also not done

546
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot this offseason. They well, Daniel, you.

547
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Got more on that, yep, The lost Devin Carter shout

548
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>out Province Shadow Biggie's hoops yea. Honestly, leaving the Kings

549
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:20.319
<v Speaker 2>is probably a good thing.

550
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:26.039
<v Speaker 3>The San Antonios. The San Antonio Spurs acquired veteran Tobias Harris.

551
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>And outside of that, there's maybe some injuries to talk about,

552
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 3>but anything else, JQ, what do you got?

553
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 6>Jade Quaintan says an injury. I don't know what it is.

554
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I don't. I'm not familiar with his injury

555
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 6>or his game.

556
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe Morton you remember, but I

557
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>think he is recovering from like a lower leg torn

558
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 3>meniscus or acl that he sustained this past year in college.

559
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 4>Is that right?

560
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 5>I believe so it was pretty significant.

561
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes it was, which is why he his draft

562
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 3>stock slipped a little bit. But he should be making

563
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 3>before recovery, I think. And the Utah Jad finally added

564
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>the aforementioned Jackson Hayes as well as Josh Okogie.

565
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 4>Who did they lose?

566
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>They finally traded away Walker Kessler after a lot of

567
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>noise about that for a few years.

568
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Of course, they also added Darren Peterson with the number

569
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 3>two pick. Pretty significant, all right, So that's roughly recapping

570
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>the moves. We didn't cover all of the rookies drafted

571
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>because there's a lot of them, but we covered.

572
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Something so don't usually impact things significantly, So.

573
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.240
<v Speaker 3>In the case of Boozer and Peterson, maybe so, but

574
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>probably Yeah. So, just a couple of questions that we

575
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>want to kind of jump into, like what you know

576
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>before we do our formal rankings. So we have here

577
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<v Speaker 3>kind of a general breakdown of who are the Tier

578
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 3>one contenders, who are the Tier two teams which are

579
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.039
<v Speaker 3>like possible dark horse like maybe they sneak through the

580
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>finals if they get you know, a good bracket and

581
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 3>an injury here or there. And then tier three contenders

582
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 3>were kind of defining as like a lot would need

583
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>to go right, they need to get very lucky basically

584
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 3>in order to actually make the finals. So without necessarily

585
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 3>ranking them per se Morton, who do you have as

586
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 3>your Tier one locked in? These teams should expect to

587
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 3>go to like the Western Conference finals and be serious contenders.

588
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 4>Teams, who have you got for this?

589
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, the San Antonio Spurs should be an absolute lock here,

590
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 5>and I'm considering not adding the Oklahoma City Thunder, but

591
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 5>I just can't necessarily get there because you know, Shay

592
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 5>and they still have the depth. But I think what

593
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 5>they lost this summer is more than what we're all

594
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 5>seemingly willing to acknowledge, Like Aaron Wickins in a regular

595
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 5>season context is so so underrated. This six to seven

596
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 5>switchable wing, who can handle the ball, who can shoot

597
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 5>off the catch, who can actually dribble drive himself into offense.

598
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 5>You had, i say, a Joe who was canning like

599
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 5>two and a half triples per game, like off the

600
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 5>catch as well. For the most part, that's just a

601
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 5>lot of spacing that's been lost, where like where's the replacement,

602
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 5>where's that guy or several guys who are gonna take

603
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 5>up that bantle And like, yeah, they're probably gonna float

604
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 5>their way to fifty five sixty wins, But in the postseason,

605
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 5>I just don't think at this current stage that their

606
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 5>locked to just ease their way through to the conference

607
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 5>finals if they don't have floor spacing. We've seen repeatedly

608
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 5>over the years how big of an issue that is

609
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 5>in the postseason. So that's why I'm toying with the

610
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 5>idea of only having one team, the Spurs in Tier One.

611
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 5>But like I'm not like married to the idea, Like

612
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 5>I can you can convince me of adding the Thunder.

613
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>If you want to very interesting just really quickly before

614
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>we move on. If you want to see me react

615
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 3>to gen Z memes, the only place that you can

616
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.759
<v Speaker 3>do that is on YouTube. You really should, you know,

617
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 3>check out this podcast on YouTube for my reactions to

618
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 3>things like that and other stuff.

619
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 4>If you know, you know, please like and subscribe and

620
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 4>follow on YouTube. It really does matter a lot.

621
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, moving on to the second tier contenders, well, I

622
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 3>guess before we do that, JQ Daniel, anything that you

623
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>would agree with or disagree with when it comes to

624
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>that first year of contenders.

625
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I'd say agree. I mean Spurs, like Morton said that,

626
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>that's obvious. They got to be in there. They got

627
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 2>to be the favorite. In my opinion, Thunder, I would

628
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>be a little more leaning against adding them to that tier.

629
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe they're hoping on aj Mitchell taking another leap.

630
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>We saw it in the playoffs. He was awesome and

631
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>then the check question mark is still there. Didn't have

632
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 2>a great playoffs. I've honestly never been huge on him.

633
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>He's obviously talented, but they're putting a lot on him

634
00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.039
<v Speaker 2>in Jalen Williams health which waiver during the postseason, but

635
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we'll get more into it, but I don't

636
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>think the rest of the West got notably stronger to

637
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 2>where you have to put down the Thunder. But still

638
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 2>I think the Spurs clearly than the Thunder, that the

639
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Spurs are number.

640
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 5>One at the moment.

641
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I think there's actually.

642
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

643
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm actually not opposed to the idea of kind of

644
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 6>maybe Q one B for the Thunder because for all

645
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 6>the reasons that I've already been mentioned, but also Cassan

646
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 6>Wallace is presumably going to be starting and taking them

647
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 6>an entirely different role than he has, and there's been

648
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 6>rumbles also the SGA is gonna be playing a bit

649
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 6>more off ball, if not a lot more off ball,

650
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 6>which like, how is that going to work in terms

651
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 6>of how they play on the offensive end?

652
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 4>So I'm really curious to see.

653
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 6>How that ends up playing out, because it's not just

654
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 6>that they are backfilling, but some of these players are

655
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 6>going to be changing their roles significantly, and we haven't

656
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 6>even touched on the fact.

657
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if.

658
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 6>That it's necessarily important, but Sja really wanted Dort to

659
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.039
<v Speaker 6>stick around, and he didn't, So what's that going to

660
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 6>do to the chemistry like up and down the roster.

661
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 6>So there's a lot of things I want to see.

662
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what SGA's off ball stuff is going

663
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>to definitely help with and that's a Victor Weman Yama's

664
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 3>MVP odds.

665
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 4>All right, So let's keep it moving there to the

666
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 4>second tier.

667
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I will say there's a team that I think y'all

668
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>are going to mention in the second tier that I

669
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 3>believe has a decent shot to end the season as

670
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>a first year contender.

671
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 4>But I'll just throw that out to y'all, Morton, who

672
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 4>do you have in your second tier?

673
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 5>So I've been very disappointed about Denver lately, but I

674
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 5>just there's just this thing with me where you have

675
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 5>any call a Yokich like you just do. At some

676
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 5>point something is going to materialize within that scheme. Like

677
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Christian Brown is as bad as we

678
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 5>saw it last year. I think the real Christian Brown

679
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 5>is somewhat a mixture of what we saw two years

680
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 5>ago in the one year ago, depending on whether they

681
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 5>make more moves. So they're just sitting with the current

682
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 5>crop of players. We'll see what they do with the

683
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 5>free agency stuff. But like I just can't rule out Denver.

684
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 5>They were third in the West, in the in the

685
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 5>Western Conference when things weren't even necessarily clicking. Perhaps a

686
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 5>full training camp after having a whole year together with

687
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 5>this current group that helps. I just have such a

688
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 5>hard time, like just justifying to myself not having Denver

689
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 5>in Tier two, even though I fully comprehend their challenges ahead,

690
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 5>so them if we're putting Thunder there obviously, Like I

691
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 5>actually like Justin's idea of putting Thunder in like a

692
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 5>Tier one b atory. I think that's the most fair.

693
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 5>So like the Nuggets and the Lakers, I think deserve

694
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 5>to be in Tier two. And I just look, Minnesota

695
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 5>is kind of on the bubble for me, like, I

696
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 5>know that's your team, Alex, imagine the one that you

697
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 5>were thinking about previously. That yeah, But I mean, I'm

698
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 5>just gonna lay it out. I'm not a LaMelo guy whatsoever.

699
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 5>I think he is such a problem child in so

700
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 5>many different ways. Like I can see that his talent

701
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 5>level is ridiculous, but I also think the meticulous liness

702
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:28.360
<v Speaker 5>of Anthony Edwards is going to be an either or situation,

703
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 5>Like either Aunt is going to want to kill LaMelo

704
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 5>after a couple months or they mesh, and if they mesh, Alex,

705
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 5>then I'm on your side. Then if they mesh, everything

706
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 5>is like kind of golden. I just think that is

707
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 5>such a big ask.

708
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 4>At this current stage, it might be a big ask.

709
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I will say I am pretty in on this Minnesota

710
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 3>team just on the basis that I think the biggest

711
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 3>thing they've been missing these past few years is a

712
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 3>secondary ball handler who can play make for others and

713
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 3>also score on their own, and the idea of LaMelo

714
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.639
<v Speaker 3>is that he should be that guy. I think he

715
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 3>can be that guy. The big thing to me, the

716
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 3>personality matters less than the health. He just needs to

717
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>stay healthy and on the court more than anything. I

718
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.199
<v Speaker 3>think that ant is pretty clearly the alpha dog of

719
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 3>that team, and I imagine LaMelo will fall in line.

720
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I wanted to talk about with them, though,

721
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 3>is I am pretty bullish on John Baron Jay as

722
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 3>the starting four or at least a high velocity six

723
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 3>man player for this team. I think that guy has

724
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 3>some real talent and I think he could add a

725
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 3>wrinkle of dynamic athleticism that you know. Nasriet and Julius

726
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 3>Randall are both excellent scorers, and they are very talented

727
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>players in their own right. But Baron Jay plays above

728
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 3>the rim in a way that those guys don't and

729
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that I think could be pretty significant for Minnesota.

730
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 4>But I would have them as.

731
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 3>A borderline pier one for now I can't quite get

732
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 3>because I need to see the fit, but I'm pretty

733
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 3>bullish on that team, Daniel. Any Tier two contenders you

734
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 3>want to mention here that haven't been.

735
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Said, No, really, I kind of mostly agree with Morton.

736
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it put the Timberwolves first, then the Nuggets, maybe

737
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>sneak the Lakers in there at the end. I think

738
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the Nuggets is just like a Tatum and Brown Celtic situation.

739
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 2>They have Jokichen Murray. I mean, you can't count them out.

740
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they'll shoot. They should be a favorite,

741
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 2>especially since their offseason has been pretty lackluster. But they

742
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>have those two guys. They know how to win together.

743
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>They should be in the mix. Timberwolves, like you said, Alex,

744
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>they I think their moves have definitely improved them, and

745
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can say that about many West

746
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>teams this season. Honestly, looking at all the addition subtractions

747
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 2>we talked about.

748
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 3>That's part of my case as well, is that I

749
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 3>think the West might have sneakily gotten worse. But we'll

750
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 3>talk a little bit about that later. Just in any

751
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.800
<v Speaker 3>other Tier two contenders to add.

752
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 6>I really like what the Clippers have done theoretically, but

753
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.679
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it quite rises to the level of

754
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 6>Tier two.

755
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 4>I think they might be near the top of my

756
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Tier three.

757
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, I do not like what the Clippers have done

758
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 3>very much, but that's just me, all right, So let's

759
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 3>jump into tier three then, Morton, what do you think

760
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 3>about the kind of like fringe contenders, like teams that

761
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 3>will make the playoffs but probably need a lot of

762
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 3>luck to make.

763
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 4>Some real noise.

764
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm not really high on a whole lot of

765
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.079
<v Speaker 5>other teams here than the ones that we've talked about. Like,

766
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 5>I know that sounds crazy because you need to round

767
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 5>out everything, so like, just by default, I'll have to

768
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 5>save Phoenix. I guess like the Clippers, like Houston with

769
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:53.800
<v Speaker 5>the they have a chance. But I just I don't

770
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 5>feel great about the vast majority of the Western Conference really,

771
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 5>which is interesting because like when we when's it last year,

772
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 5>everything was about, oh look at how dynamic the Western

773
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 5>Conference is. I don't feel similarly this year whatsoever. Like

774
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 5>the Blazers, Let's just take them as an example. When

775
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 5>you have an owner who's become that cheap and who's

776
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 5>just skirting on everything that's that probably means that you

777
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.320
<v Speaker 5>are going to lose games just by not having the

778
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 5>eye on the ball. In terms of the details in

779
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 5>the organization, like have there been allocated enough funds for scouting,

780
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 5>for basketball research, for all those things. I don't think

781
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 5>that those are legitimate questions to ask out loud, and

782
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 5>in today's game, that can cost you wins and a

783
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.039
<v Speaker 5>lot of them. So I don't feel comfortable about them. Alex,

784
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 5>I agree with you that the Clippers, like like what

785
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 5>are they at this stage? I don't know? And the

786
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 5>Warriors as well, like what is this team really except

787
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.239
<v Speaker 5>for old like and Phoenix. I'm just like, is it

788
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 5>is anyone scared of Phoenix at all? Because I don't

789
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 5>think anyone are like like, that's just such a team.

790
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 5>That's It's like if hu Hum was a basketball team name,

791
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 5>that would be the Suns. That's just where we are.

792
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 5>I just I don't there's nothing here that excites me,

793
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.639
<v Speaker 5>like I'm almost tempted to just ask you, guys, can

794
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 5>we just can we just delete Tier three? Like it's

795
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 5>just so inconsequential, It's it's we're being honest.

796
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's probably no team that is going to realistically

797
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 6>end up in the NBA Finals without several disasters happening simultaneously.

798
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 3>So there's just one thing I want to mention, which

799
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 3>is that I think the teams that I have in

800
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 3>my brain for Tier three have no real shot of

801
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 3>making the finals. But there are a couple of these

802
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 3>younger teams that I think have a little potential to

803
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 3>rise up a little bit in some of these rankings

804
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 3>and make the playoffs.

805
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm looking.

806
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 3>At Dallas on his as a team that was not

807
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 3>healthy last year. They were missing Kyrie Irving, and they

808
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>were missing Derek Lively, who is quietly a huge part

809
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 3>of that team. I think with a second year Cooper Flag,

810
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 3>a healthy Kyrie Irving, and some of the additions that

811
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 3>they made with Al Dama, I think Resa Jay in

812
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 3>a deep bench roll is fine. I'm looking at Dallas

813
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 3>as a potential playoff team here. I think that there's

814
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.119
<v Speaker 3>there's a world in which they're in the conversation, and

815
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 3>while it is probably too early and realistically, I think

816
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be tough for them to be taken Seriously,

817
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't hate the way that.

818
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 4>This Memphis Chrisly's team looks either.

819
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 3>They don't really have a point guard, but they're gonna

820
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.679
<v Speaker 3>do some interesting stuff and they're gonna be really really big.

821
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be like, profoundly annoyingly big, and I think

822
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 3>on a night to night basis that can lead to

823
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 3>some wins. But I do agree, outside of maybe Houston

824
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 3>if they get really hot at the right time, I'm

825
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 3>not I'm not really seeing a whole lot of like

826
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 3>true third tier contenders. So let's let's jump into just

827
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 3>a couple of other questions and then we'll get into

828
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 3>our draft to close this thing out. Are there any

829
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 3>teams here that screen disaster potential to you?

830
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 5>Morton? Well, I look, I'm sorry to do this to you, Alex,

831
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 5>but like the Wolves do have like the potential draw

832
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 5>of the Yeah, look, I mean I I will say

833
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 5>as much. I hope that I'm wrong because I always

834
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 5>love it when players go to somewhere else and they

835
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 5>redefine their own narrative. So, like I want LaMelo to

836
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 5>redefine his own narrative. I struggle with that concept. And also,

837
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 5>like they're big man play, there are just questions there.

838
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.840
<v Speaker 5>There are not a lot of size and Rudy Gobert

839
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 5>is only going to get older. And let's just be real,

840
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 5>He's not the same dude. He hasn't been the same

841
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:08.639
<v Speaker 5>dude for at least two years now. Defensively great around

842
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 5>the rim, but you can attack him in space. There's

843
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 5>so many things he should be able to do offensively

844
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 5>that he just has never done. And I just wonder

845
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 5>what that's going to do to the entire interior rotation

846
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 5>if you have to tax him more offensively and defensively.

847
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:30.159
<v Speaker 5>He's getting older, and I don't think this is irrelevant,

848
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 5>but like nobody really likes him, so everyone is targeting

849
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 5>his ass, Like everyone is trying to put him on

850
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 5>a poster. Everyone is trying to get him into Flowel Trouble,

851
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 5>everyone is trying to show him up.

852
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 4>That's a tough.

853
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:45.079
<v Speaker 5>Job going in and out every single night. So I

854
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 5>question their big man death and the rotation overall. Oh

855
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 5>and one final note, here's the thing, and I really

856
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 5>hope that he turns his narrative around Jade McDaniels as

857
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 5>the full time foreman. I need to see this dude

858
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.039
<v Speaker 5>finally do something more than just stand around with a

859
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 5>thumb up somewhere and not do enough. Like he is

860
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 5>six y nine, he's got long arms, he's supremely athletic.

861
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 5>I can't modify the lack of rebounding. I can't justify

862
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 5>because he's such a good, you know, guy getting inside,

863
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 5>like into the paint area, Like, why he doesn't do

864
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 5>it a whole bunch more. I don't understand why he

865
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.199
<v Speaker 5>doesn't take more open threes and just passes stuff up,

866
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 5>Like this has to be the year with Randall gone,

867
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 5>with nos gone, that he finally steps into that role

868
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 5>and goes, this is mine. The thing is, we have

869
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.519
<v Speaker 5>like what five six years of evidence that he just

870
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 5>doesn't do it. Yeah, And I can't ignore that level

871
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 5>of data. I just can't. So I'm sitting with the

872
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 5>current data that is Lamello is a wildcard and Jade

873
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 5>McDaniels is frankly that as well. And I'm also sitting

874
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.599
<v Speaker 5>with the data point of their big Men rotation possibly

875
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 5>be one of the worst in the entire NBA. So like, yeah,

876
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 5>they have disaster potential, big time disaster potential.

877
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I am going to throw a team out here for

878
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.679
<v Speaker 3>disaster potential that I think we haven't talked about Jess yet,

879
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>but I think is quite significant. I don't like where

880
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 3>this Golden State team is headed at all. They are slower,

881
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 3>They have not added anyone of substance. They are bringing

882
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 3>back a Jimmy Butler with no contract extension off of

883
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 3>a tour in acl Boy, are they putting a lot

884
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:40.760
<v Speaker 3>on Yakxell Lindenberg's shoulders and they missed out on Lebron

885
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.039
<v Speaker 3>in what I think is going to be maybe a

886
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 3>handful of years left for Steph Curry at most. I

887
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 3>mean Steph Curry is, of course amazing, all time great

888
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame player, but I don't like anything that

889
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing out of the Warriors or this offseason. Even

890
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 3>if Yaxll is good, it's just a huge ask for

891
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>him to immediately step into the starting lineup and be

892
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 3>a top tier NBA player. I am skeptical any other

893
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 3>disaster candidates we need to name here.

894
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Fellas, I was gonna say, oh, yeah, you guys, you

895
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 2>guys stole mine. I was gonna say the Warriors and

896
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 2>the Rockets, because well, you laid it.

897
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 4>Up, you give your reason.

898
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what do you think.

899
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Last year we saw with the Warriors' health and they

900
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 2>just got older. So I mean that's the same issues

901
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the Rockets. I mean, I obviously like Marcus Smart. All

902
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Celtics fans know what he can do, but I just

903
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like the chemistry is a little odd with Kevin Durant,

904
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the whole Twitter beef, the whole him talking about his

905
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>teammates behind their backs that season just not really going

906
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that smoothly. And then Marcus Smart, who can be a

907
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 2>bit ornery sometimes we saw him butt heads of JB.

908
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 5>Back in the day.

909
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just don't love the chemistry or

910
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 2>their offense really that much. I don't think they address

911
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 2>some of these things. Yeah, yeah, they still have a

912
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>few guys where defense first and offense second, and winning

913
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that way is kind of hard on the NBA, the

914
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>modern NBA. And he may say what you want about him,

915
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't been super convinced by the job he's

916
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>done with this Rockets team yet. And Kevin Durant is great,

917
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, still great, but he's only gotten older.

918
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Are any of these potential disaster teams or other teams

919
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 3>that we didn't name candidates for like blow it up

920
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 3>as in like just detonate the whole franchise and you know,

921
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.639
<v Speaker 3>start over at ground zero. Anybody any of these jump

922
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 3>out to you as possible blow it up candidates?

923
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 5>Martin Houston a little bit, honestly, But it depends on

924
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 5>how we define it, right, because Durand is getting so

925
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.039
<v Speaker 5>much older. Like, but I can see this being a

926
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 5>year when they make a final call on Albert and Shingoom,

927
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna stick around with the Amen Thompson. They seem

928
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 5>absolutely in love with your Barr Smith Junior for insert

929
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 5>recent here that I still don't fully understand or comprehend.

930
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 5>This is just such a weird team. This is such

931
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 5>a weird team. I don't understand where they're trying to

932
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 5>go from here, Like they have Fred Bandlee coming off

933
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 5>the acl tair big whoop. This just seems like something's

934
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 5>gotta give eventually, Like if they are deciding let's build

935
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 5>around Amen Thompson, Reed Shepherd, that too seems like such

936
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.559
<v Speaker 5>a bad idea because like none of those guys have

937
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 5>like the you know, superstar upside. I just don't know

938
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 5>who that dude is from Houston, where you go, this

939
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 5>is the guy to go for. Also at the trade

940
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 5>deadline or even before the season, they're probably gonna be

941
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.559
<v Speaker 5>sellers because they're one point two million dollars over the

942
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 5>tax level. Tilma Fertida is gonna look at that and go,

943
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 5>am I gonna pay one point two million over the

944
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 5>tax line and not receive the uxury tax payment for

945
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.880
<v Speaker 5>this franchise. So I envisioned someone's getting traded eventually just

946
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 5>to save money, like they are a future salary dump

947
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.719
<v Speaker 5>trade away from getting under the tax line. This is

948
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.719
<v Speaker 5>going to be an unseerious franchise for a while. They're

949
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 5>not going to go anywhere. I'm guessing KD is probably

950
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 5>going to be gone by the trade deadline as well.

951
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 5>That wouldn't shock me.

952
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 4>This is a team that I fall George.

953
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, that's frankly within the realm of possibility.

954
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't even be shocked if, like the Spurs get

955
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 5>in on the Durant sweepstakes during the trade deadline, Like,

956
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 5>there are so many ways to facilitate something here. I

957
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 5>just don't understand this roster whatsoever. And it seems like

958
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 5>this is also going to be the last year they

959
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 5>roll this out because it has to be.

960
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's entirely possible. I will say, I

961
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 3>think there are not really a ton of blow it

962
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 3>up teams right now. I think so it's not a

963
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 3>true blow it up team. But the second Apron is

964
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 3>absolutely coming for the Oklahoma City Thunder. They are going

965
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 3>to have to shed more salary, but that's not really

966
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 3>a true blow it up. What I will say is

967
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 3>there are two teams here that we're going to talk

968
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 3>about in just a minute that I think might be

969
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 3>on blow it Up Watch to some degree. But I'm

970
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 3>just going to go out and say I know that

971
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 3>you know where I'm going to I'm going to come

972
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 3>out and say it. I am very skeptical that Denver

973
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 3>or Golden State will ever trade Nikola Jokic or Steph

974
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 3>Curry respectively, even if their teams become bad. Morton, do

975
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 3>you have any thoughts on that. Are those guys lifers

976
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:51.079
<v Speaker 3>or is there a chance?

977
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh their lifers as long as they want to be.

978
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 5>We know Steph wants to. Jokis just said his preference

979
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 5>is to stay in Denver, but that does not mean,

980
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 5>he's necessarily as committal to them because he also wants

981
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.639
<v Speaker 5>to win. One of my big pet peeves has been

982
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 5>the narrative going around the joke doesn't care about basketball.

983
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 5>That it started out as a joke, but then you know,

984
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 5>social media caught win of it, and then it started

985
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 5>to become like, oh, but he doesn't like basketball, which

986
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 5>is just so preposterous that my European mind is melting.

987
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 5>So I think he is so competitive that he wants

988
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 5>to find a situation where he can win another title.

989
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:34.519
<v Speaker 5>But I also think he's gonna give the Nuggets one

990
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 5>more go, and I think that goes a little bit different.

991
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's a let's give it one more season, guys.

992
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a, hey, here's what you're gonna do.

993
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 5>You're either going to get me Luka Dantach or I'm

994
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 5>going to find a way to play with Luka Dantach elsewhere.

995
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 5>Those two are immensely close, and they compliment each other

996
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 5>on a basketball court so beautifully in terms of their

997
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 5>respective skill sets, and they're keenly aware of that, both

998
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 5>of them. So my take here is eventually, somehow, some way,

999
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 5>we're going to see those two guys on a basketball

1000
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 5>court at the same time wearing the same jersey. Is

1001
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 5>that going to be in Denver or is it going

1002
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.039
<v Speaker 5>to be in Los Angeles. Is going to be a

1003
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.119
<v Speaker 5>third place. I don't know yet. We'll figure that out,

1004
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:27.760
<v Speaker 5>but that's what I think is going to be. Yoki's

1005
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 5>claim for for Denver is basically saying, get me this

1006
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 5>guy or I'm I'm leaving.

1007
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's all the time we have. I need to

1008
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 4>go for three hours. I knew I was just kidding.

1009
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 3>I would be so upset if Nicole Kicic played for

1010
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the Los Angeles Lakers.

1011
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.039
<v Speaker 5>I will just I think we all would.

1012
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 4>I would not not enjoy that at all.

1013
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he was. It's the Lakers. It's too

1014
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 5>big of a media market. I think he would be miserable,

1015
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 5>h at least off the court. But like with him

1016
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 5>and Luca, like at least there's going to be entertainment value.

1017
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:07.239
<v Speaker 5>I have to say that is true.

1018
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.800
<v Speaker 3>What I will say about the Yoka Chates basketball point is, guys,

1019
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Jokic has never hated basketball. What Yokic doesn't like is

1020
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 3>the NBA. He doesn't like the pageantry and the ridiculous

1021
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 3>like All Star Game, shenanigans and the media coverage. He

1022
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 3>loves basketball and he's very competitive. My take has always

1023
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:31.760
<v Speaker 3>been that Jokic's surly demeanor has far less to do

1024
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 3>with what's happening on the court and far more to

1025
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 3>do with what is happening off the court.

1026
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.199
<v Speaker 5>That is correct, sir? Yeah?

1027
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Anyways, all right, so we do have to talk about this.

1028
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna rapid fire through a couple more points

1029
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 3>before we get into our draft, and we're just gonna

1030
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.639
<v Speaker 3>be pretty quick with that. Again, it's going to be

1031
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 3>a snake style draft, but we do have to talk about,

1032
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 3>like the kind of proverbial elephant in the room, is

1033
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Kawhi Leonard gonna be in the Western Conference next year?

1034
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 2>More?

1035
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you have anything on this never ending saga?

1036
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 5>The only thing I have is that the league wants

1037
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 5>to get this done. They have to push it into

1038
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.960
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty seven because I don't think they want to

1039
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 5>give anyone a timeline of pressure. I think they want

1040
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 5>to do this in the most thorough manner possible, and

1041
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 5>I also think they want to buy themselves time to

1042
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 5>figure out how can we, also from a pr perspective,

1043
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 5>survive this, Like how can we actually find the right

1044
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.199
<v Speaker 5>punishment for the right people like, should Kawhi be involved

1045
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:41.039
<v Speaker 5>in that punishment personally? That's I think that's a more

1046
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:45.280
<v Speaker 5>nuanced layer because a lot of people are basically saying, well,

1047
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 5>he didn't know his team just did this, and he

1048
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.159
<v Speaker 5>was like, all right, sure, because it's not the player's

1049
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 5>responsibility of adhering to the salary cap or the CBA.

1050
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 5>I think that is where people go a little bit

1051
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 5>too much in the wrong side, because yes, it's a

1052
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:06.199
<v Speaker 5>mutual responsibility for both team and player, but no, no, no,

1053
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 5>don't go.

1054
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay real quickly.

1055
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 6>I do think that they should avoid punishing Kawhi, not

1056
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 6>for the reasons you suggested it, but just because they

1057
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:16.679
<v Speaker 6>want to actually prevent this again in the future. They

1058
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 6>want to keep this as short as possible, they want

1059
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.719
<v Speaker 6>to not involve the players Association, in my opinion, and

1060
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 6>getting this judgment done. There's always already been reporting saying

1061
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 6>that if the sides don't do not agree, that this

1062
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 6>could go to arbitration, which is exactly what the league

1063
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.880
<v Speaker 6>does not want to deal with. So my proposal is

1064
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 6>just fine, whatever punishment you come up with, make it

1065
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:41.639
<v Speaker 6>the team because they bear the primary responsibility, and it

1066
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:43.880
<v Speaker 6>will be a lot easier by not having the players

1067
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 6>Association involved. The primary focus here is preventing it from

1068
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 6>happening in the future. So to do that they should

1069
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 6>go with the most Oukham's raisers, straight to the point.

1070
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.320
<v Speaker 6>Let's get it done. Let's get rid of all other things.

1071
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Our focus is preventing it.

1072
00:57:58.039 --> 00:57:58.440
<v Speaker 4>That's it.

1073
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Yep, I agree, We'll see, We'll see how that goes.

1074
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, god, what a mess. They really do need

1075
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 3>to get this done, and they need to get it

1076
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 3>done before. Like, I'm not even that they should not

1077
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 3>drag this into twenty twenty seven. They need to get

1078
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.679
<v Speaker 3>this done before the season starts. It's going to look

1079
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.320
<v Speaker 3>really bad if they let it drag into twenty twenty seven.

1080
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:23.119
<v Speaker 3>Portland Trailblazers are looking pretty cheap, and there's rumors of relocation.

1081
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Tom Dundon is reportedly not happy with the fact that

1082
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.880
<v Speaker 3>the City of Portland is not willing to give him

1083
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:33.719
<v Speaker 3>carte blanche taxpayer financing for a new arena. Any thoughts

1084
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 3>on this, Morton.

1085
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, this is new owner syndrome all over again,

1086
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 5>just in a different way than we're used to. This

1087
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:47.559
<v Speaker 5>is immensely stupid. I don't think you're going to interear

1088
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.880
<v Speaker 5>yourself to your fan base, to the league at large,

1089
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 5>to virtually everyone anyone. I think what Tom dunnan is

1090
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.480
<v Speaker 5>doing right now is just being alienating towards the broader

1091
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:04.519
<v Speaker 5>NBA community, And he'll probably figure out in about three

1092
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 5>years time that he has to adjust himself. Like we

1093
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 5>saw when Vivekrono div came in with Sacramento, he started

1094
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 5>suggesting like four on five basketball.

1095
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 4>And like he was all over man, that was so cool.

1096
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 5>That was just so weird and so odd, and like

1097
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 5>then he finally started realizing, oh, maybe maybe I should

1098
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 5>let the basketball be up to the basketball people, and

1099
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 5>maybe I should listen to their preferences. But Tom Dunnan

1100
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 5>is the same, Like he's in that same Montra right

1101
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.239
<v Speaker 5>now where he's coming in as this new owner saying no, no, no,

1102
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.000
<v Speaker 5>I have the solution. Eighty years of basketball doesn't have

1103
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 5>anything on me because I'm rich, which is just the

1104
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 5>worst argument for anything ever. So I I just don't

1105
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.239
<v Speaker 5>have a take on what's going to happen because if

1106
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:59.920
<v Speaker 5>he's just not at all in tuned with fan bases

1107
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.000
<v Speaker 5>or the league at large, he's gonna do whatever the

1108
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 5>hell he wants to. He shouldn't, but he's going to.

1109
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:09.960
<v Speaker 5>So my thing is just I hear you, Blazers fans.

1110
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:14.840
<v Speaker 5>I feel with you, and I hope that eventually you're

1111
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 5>gonna get a new ownership group that actually understands what

1112
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.519
<v Speaker 5>it takes to invest into a team, because yes, it

1113
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 5>is expensive to have a successful NBA franchise. Just because

1114
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 5>his NHL team did well, he's like, oh, I can

1115
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.639
<v Speaker 5>apply this to basketball. You can't, sir, you just can't.

1116
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.840
<v Speaker 5>And it's amazing to me that these rich people are

1117
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 5>just so convinced of themselves all the freaking time. So

1118
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:45.360
<v Speaker 5>just God speed Portland fans.

1119
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll see about relocation.

1120
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know Tom Dunnan has been threatening that

1121
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 3>it's always a possibility. I have to say, I think

1122
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 3>the logistics of a relocation strike me as a little implausible,

1123
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.960
<v Speaker 3>at least at this time when the NBA is certainly

1124
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 3>looking to expand really quickly. Just talking about the Western

1125
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Conference future, it seems like we're pretty now set on

1126
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:14.519
<v Speaker 3>Vegas and Seattle as the expansion teams, which means that

1127
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.039
<v Speaker 3>the West is going to have to change. Are there

1128
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 3>any so what there's been kind of three rumored teams

1129
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 3>that would move to the Eastern Conference, Minnesota, New Orleans,

1130
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:27.679
<v Speaker 3>and Memphis. First off, I'm going to kick it to

1131
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:31.960
<v Speaker 3>you and you, Daniel and Justin Celtics fan hat on

1132
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 3>which of these teams do you want in the East

1133
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:36.519
<v Speaker 3>and which of these teams do you least want in

1134
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.519
<v Speaker 3>the East. Consider that this probably isn't going to be

1135
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:43.079
<v Speaker 3>happening until like twenty twenty eight or twenty thirty or

1136
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:43.719
<v Speaker 3>something like that.

1137
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, easy answer for now, probably the Pelicans that

1138
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.639
<v Speaker 2>you would want. Granted twenty twenty eight, who knows, Maybe

1139
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 2>they stunk so bad that they got a good draft

1140
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:58.559
<v Speaker 2>pick and they have some generational player. But the guys

1141
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.760
<v Speaker 2>calling the shots right now, speaking of bad owners they

1142
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:04.679
<v Speaker 2>have that I don't think. I don't trust them to

1143
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.039
<v Speaker 2>make the right basketball decisions and be in a good

1144
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 2>place even in a few years. So probably the Pelicans

1145
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 2>the Celtics would want in the East.

1146
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Justin, who would they not want?

1147
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.880
<v Speaker 6>I would probably say the Timberwolves because they look like

1148
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 6>the team of the three teams that has the most

1149
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.000
<v Speaker 6>likelihood of being good in the short term and potentially

1150
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 6>long term. I think that they are well positioned to

1151
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 6>rebuild the team after its current construction in the future

1152
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:35.159
<v Speaker 6>as well.

1153
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Around and for.

1154
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 6>Another iteration, there's a case that Memphis has I think

1155
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:44.239
<v Speaker 6>as well, depending on how you see. They have not

1156
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.599
<v Speaker 6>done so great in managing that roster in recent years,

1157
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.599
<v Speaker 6>but they have some good seeds there. It's going to

1158
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 6>be Minnesota for travel purposes. But I think this is

1159
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 6>going to be really interesting to see how it pans out.

1160
01:02:57.519 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I will say it.

1161
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I think I would act actually like to see the

1162
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota Timberwolves in the East, regardless of whether they are

1163
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 3>the best and most threatening of those teams, just because

1164
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 3>I think it would make for a more competitive and

1165
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:10.360
<v Speaker 3>fun NBA season.

1166
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 4>I'll say it.

1167
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:13.519
<v Speaker 3>All right, it's time to get into this draft and

1168
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 3>then we're going to get out of here. So this

1169
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.199
<v Speaker 3>is how this is going to work. We're going to

1170
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:19.320
<v Speaker 3>go Are we going to go snake draft? Do we

1171
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 3>establish that?

1172
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Let's just a regular let's do regular simple.

1173
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Morton will get the first pick for who the number

1174
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 3>one seed is. Then Justin will get to pick who

1175
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:29.960
<v Speaker 3>the two seed is. Then Daniel will get to pick

1176
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.079
<v Speaker 3>who the three seed is. I think we should do

1177
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.800
<v Speaker 3>snake draft for fairness. So then Daniel will get the

1178
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.760
<v Speaker 3>fourth pick, Justin will get the fifth pick, Morton will

1179
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.320
<v Speaker 3>get the sixth pick. And how this will work is basically,

1180
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.480
<v Speaker 3>people will make their picks and if anyone objects, then

1181
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 3>I will step in as the QB of this draft

1182
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:51.199
<v Speaker 3>and I will rule one way or the other as

1183
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.320
<v Speaker 3>to who is right, so that we can come up

1184
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 3>with a top fifteen in order by the end of

1185
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.760
<v Speaker 3>this pod, and then we'll close things out. We'll start

1186
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 3>with you, Morton, who is going to be the number

1187
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 3>one seed in the Western Conference this year?

1188
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 5>The San Antonio Spurs baby, because look, this team is

1189
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 5>primed and ready. It all comes down to the health

1190
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 5>of wickdim and Butiama, and look, this is going to

1191
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 5>be year two of Dylan Harper, year three of Stefan Castle. Like,

1192
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.440
<v Speaker 5>even if Daron Fox is off to a slow start,

1193
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.639
<v Speaker 5>they can even pivot during the trade deadline and move

1194
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:32.360
<v Speaker 5>him for debt or initiate some larger scheme, maybe involved

1195
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 5>him in a trade for Kevin Durant. Like, there's just

1196
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 5>so many different avenues they can go here. I just

1197
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:43.119
<v Speaker 5>fail to see them at anything but number one.

1198
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 3>Any disagreements on this point, Nope, send it the San

1199
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Antonio Spurs will be the number one seed. Justin who's

1200
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:55.239
<v Speaker 3>going to be the number two seed in the Western Comforts?

1201
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 6>In what must be some really suspenseful and excellent podcasting,

1202
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:00.559
<v Speaker 6>I'm going with a.

1203
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Thunder, Oklahoma City Thunder. Any objections as the number two seed,

1204
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Daniel or Morton?

1205
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:07.320
<v Speaker 5>Nope?

1206
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Nope none.

1207
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.079
<v Speaker 3>All right, Daniel, you have number three and four? Who

1208
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 3>will be the third and fourth seeds in the Western Conference.

1209
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I could be boring here. I mean, I'm still not

1210
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:22.119
<v Speaker 2>even really convinced because I feel like it's a drop

1211
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:25.239
<v Speaker 2>off from one to two. But I'm gonna say maybe

1212
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Lakers for three. I could see Luka Doncicic being healthy

1213
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:32.400
<v Speaker 2>for regular season helping them along get a good seed.

1214
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Beyond that, I don't know. His health obviously was not

1215
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 2>great in the playoffs. He missed it all, so that's

1216
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 2>been a question mark. But regular season only, And then

1217
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll say the Nuggets. I mean, like we said before,

1218
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 2>they have Yokic, they have Murray. They should be in

1219
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 2>that mix somewhere. They haven't really been a great regular

1220
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 2>season team historically. I feel like they kind of show

1221
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 2>up in the playoffs more so, Yeah, I'll put them

1222
01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 2>down at four.

1223
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 4>Any objections to three, three, or four as the Los.

1224
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Angeles Lakers and Denver Nuggets, respectively, Justin or more than Hope?

1225
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:07.880
<v Speaker 5>Justin?

1226
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 4>Nothing?

1227
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow, all right, shock all the way. Then I guess

1228
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 3>we'll go to Justin. Who is going to be the

1229
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:18.079
<v Speaker 3>number five seed in the Western Conference? Minnesota, the Minnesota Timberwolves.

1230
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Any objections to this, Daniel or Morton.

1231
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:24.840
<v Speaker 5>No, I'm gonna take the optimistic approach to this one.

1232
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.519
<v Speaker 5>I do think they still have the potential for disaster,

1233
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 5>but if everything holds up, I actually agree that that's

1234
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:33.920
<v Speaker 5>a solid choice.

1235
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 3>All right, Mortin, you will have the sixth and seventh pick,

1236
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 3>as it is a Snake draft. So who is going

1237
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 3>to be the sixth and seven seeds in the Western Conference?

1238
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.199
<v Speaker 5>So in whatever order you choose, Houston or Phoenix, and frankly,

1239
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.760
<v Speaker 5>it does not matter. We can have to make a pick.

1240
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:57.360
<v Speaker 5>Oh God, all right, let's just say the Suns because

1241
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 5>at least there's some level of symmetry I guess to

1242
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 5>a certain extent with their roster. And then Houston number seven,

1243
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 5>even though that's a team that's just weird.

1244
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Justin, Daniel, any disagreements on the order of Phoenix, or

1245
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Houston here.

1246
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 4>I'd probably flip them, but I pretty much agree.

1247
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I would like I would like to see maybe sneaky

1248
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:27.840
<v Speaker 2>pick like the Blazers or Mavericks in here instead the Sons.

1249
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I could see maybe the Rockets. I think you have

1250
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:33.519
<v Speaker 2>to put in that mix. But I think maybe the

1251
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Sons could get replaced by a Blazers team that obviously

1252
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 2>they don't have the best owner, but sol Jah Morant,

1253
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Drew Holliday, they.

1254
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 5>Have some talent.

1255
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Then. I mean, the MAVs got Cooper Flag, Kyrie's hopefully

1256
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:51.559
<v Speaker 2>coming back, Clay should hopefully be a bit better kind

1257
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of a wild card, but they have talent with Cooper Flag,

1258
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:57.280
<v Speaker 2>so I think you got to put them in the Necks.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe for the sake of simplicity, I'm going to step

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<v Speaker 3>in and only deal with the six and seven in

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01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Houston or Phoenix, just given that there's so many other

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01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.719
<v Speaker 3>potential options, and I am going to say that the

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01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Houston Rockets are better than the Phoenix Suns, and they

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<v Speaker 3>will be the sixth seed and the Suns will be

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<v Speaker 3>the seventh seed. That is the veto of the pod QB.

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<v Speaker 3>Marcus Smart is making the playoffs. He is not going

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01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 3>to be in the play in tournament. That's my guy

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<v Speaker 3>for real, all right? Justin Quinn, who will be the

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01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 3>number eight seed in the Western Conference?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm gonna go with Portland just because they have

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01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.840
<v Speaker 6>improved their roster and they are they also have a

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01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:38.920
<v Speaker 6>pretty good amount of talent. They're still pretty young, but

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01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:42.000
<v Speaker 6>they showed some flashes of growth. So for me, I

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01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:43.840
<v Speaker 6>think they're going to be our number seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Any objections to the Portland Trailblazers at eight, No, that's fine. Nope,

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel all right, and so Daniel, you will get the

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<v Speaker 3>number nine and ten seeds?

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01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:56.439
<v Speaker 4>Who we got?

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01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:57.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine, I'm gonna say Mavericks like I was saying for

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01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.520
<v Speaker 2>me and Cooper flag at a great season. I just

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01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:04.760
<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot to like about him if he

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01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.039
<v Speaker 2>feels like a guy who's going to be a perennial

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01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 2>star at some point, so maybe throw him in there.

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01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they get more healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, it's the Mavericks at nine. Just to be clear,

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01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.119
<v Speaker 4>Justin Oh no, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was going to object because that is the

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01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:23.920
<v Speaker 6>person who I was, the person the team that I

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01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.039
<v Speaker 6>was thinking of with an asterisk, Could there could be

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01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.960
<v Speaker 6>a better option out there. If Kawhi Leonard remains a

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01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.640
<v Speaker 6>member of the Clippers, I could see with the other

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01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:36.279
<v Speaker 6>moves that they've made that this team could challenge for

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01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:37.920
<v Speaker 6>that spot. But otherwise I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>So just to be clear, dear listener, the debate right

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01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 3>now is will the Dallas Mavericks or the Los Angeles

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01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Clippers be at the number nine seed? And I am

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01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.520
<v Speaker 3>going to weigh in with the QB veto and say

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01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.760
<v Speaker 3>that Daniel's initial instinct is correct. The Dallas Mavericks will

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01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 3>be the nine seed. So who do you have as

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<v Speaker 3>the ten seed?

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01:09:55.399 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 2>Daniel, the Clippers? I could be interested in that. I

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01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.159
<v Speaker 2>feel like Kawhi would be a guy. He wouldn't like

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01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:11.359
<v Speaker 2>pout if the trade went wrong, he would still play. Yeah,

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01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean he played well last season. But uh, let

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01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 2>me see what other candidates we got. Is anybody more

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01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 2>enticing Memphis Morton?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have anyone to throw in here? As it possible?

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01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, I think the Clippers is right because

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01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:32.560
<v Speaker 5>TYLERU is an underrated coach. He'll squeeze out like five

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01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.560
<v Speaker 5>wins on a season just by him being him, and

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01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:39.000
<v Speaker 5>that's actually quite substantial for a coach. I think Garland

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01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 5>found his strides as a Clipper. That made a little

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01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.920
<v Speaker 5>bit more sense, Like I don't love what the Clippers

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01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.039
<v Speaker 5>have done. Like I'm not gonna sit here and say

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01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:52.760
<v Speaker 5>they've been fantastic like I but they top five pick.

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01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:55.560
<v Speaker 5>They also might be well, we don't really know what

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01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.000
<v Speaker 5>the Benedict Mathod situation is going to end up like,

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01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:01.159
<v Speaker 5>but like if they retain him somehow way, unless I

1320
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.039
<v Speaker 5>missed some news today, like no, he's still in the market, right,

1321
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.279
<v Speaker 5>that could be something. And I just think it's a

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01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 5>it's an organization that's professional. And they crossed their eyes

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01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:16.960
<v Speaker 5>and dot their t or sorry, crosses their te's and

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01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.039
<v Speaker 5>touts their eyes. Of course, hey look it's past midnight here.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't hate them at ten. I could even

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01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:27.560
<v Speaker 5>see them higher. But I'm not going to fight it

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01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:30.600
<v Speaker 5>because I think everything that's been said has been very

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01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:31.399
<v Speaker 5>very reasonable.

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01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Justin, do you have any objections to the Clippers at ten? No, Daniel,

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01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:37.760
<v Speaker 3>are you swayed?

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01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Their question mark, but I think it's it's an

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01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:42.760
<v Speaker 2>appropriate answer for now.

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01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Then, Justin, who will be the eleven seed? I'm gonna

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01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:50.520
<v Speaker 4>go with Memphis, the Memphis Grizzlies. Any objection to the

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01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:51.399
<v Speaker 4>grizz at eleven.

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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:54.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's fair.

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01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Not seeing any.

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01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:59.159
<v Speaker 3>All right, Martin, you will get the twelve and thirteen

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01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.319
<v Speaker 3>spots in the Western Conference.

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<v Speaker 5>Will let's start off with the Golden State Warriors. I

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01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:09.640
<v Speaker 5>think that seems to be a fitting, you know, position

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01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.199
<v Speaker 5>for them twelve seed. Like, I'm not gonna say they

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01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 5>don't have potential for more, but as of right now,

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01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:19.279
<v Speaker 5>I think they need to show us that at the

1345
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:23.760
<v Speaker 5>very least. So who have we missed here? Or are

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01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:25.239
<v Speaker 5>we down in the slot?

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01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:29.079
<v Speaker 6>So I'm gonna object a little bit because I think

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01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.199
<v Speaker 6>that you're gonna arrive at the team that I'm thinking

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01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.920
<v Speaker 6>of next, But I think they should be first because

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01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.600
<v Speaker 6>this is a younger players league the way that depth

1351
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.960
<v Speaker 6>and youth has been impacting scoring. So I'm gonna say

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01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 6>that the Jazz should actually be in the twelfth spot

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01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:46.039
<v Speaker 6>with the Warriors in the thirteenth spot.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't hate that argument. I think that's fair.

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01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.600
<v Speaker 5>We can do that. We can absolutely do that because

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01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:53.640
<v Speaker 5>like again Darren.

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01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Peterson, yeah, Daniel, any objections to that, I.

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01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Would probably give the edge to the Warriors, honest, just

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01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:02.239
<v Speaker 2>because I curry.

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01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Alex gets to the deciding vote. I do get the

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01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.640
<v Speaker 4>deciding vote, and I'm going Jazz mode. I like this

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01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Jazz roster.

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01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be a little frisky, and

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01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 3>I think Will Hardy.

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01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Will Hardy is so tired of this team being terrible.

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01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:19.600
<v Speaker 3>So I think they're going to actually win some games

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01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.359
<v Speaker 3>and try this year, Whereas I think the Warriors have

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01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:27.840
<v Speaker 3>really high potential for Steph Curry has an injury by

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01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.640
<v Speaker 3>the All Star break. Weird that that happened. We won't

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01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.680
<v Speaker 3>be seeing him for the rest of the season. That's

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01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:34.800
<v Speaker 3>where I'm waiting.

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01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:35.279
<v Speaker 4>All right.

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01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:38.640
<v Speaker 3>So then justin you're going to get the fourteenth pick,

1374
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:41.479
<v Speaker 3>you have two teams to choose from remaining. Assuming we

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01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.199
<v Speaker 3>have the Jazz at twelve and the Warriors at thirteen,

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01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 3>who have you got for the fourteenth spot?

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01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:52.720
<v Speaker 6>Well, I guess I'm technically picking both. Realistically, I think

1378
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:55.640
<v Speaker 6>the Pelicans have at least a chance at not being

1379
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.640
<v Speaker 6>an absolutely terrible team. I think they're still going to be,

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01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:00.880
<v Speaker 6>but at least they have a chance. I do not

1381
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 6>think the Kings have any There's gonna be the Kings

1382
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.560
<v Speaker 6>for the foreseeable future. So I think that it's going

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01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:07.840
<v Speaker 6>to be the Pelicans.

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01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Next, Daniel Morton, any objections to Pelicans fourteen, Kings fifteen.

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01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Nine is perfectly all right.

1386
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're in the drags right now, I will say,

1387
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm fine keeping it this way. I think

1388
01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 3>there is a world in which the Pelicans will be

1389
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the worst team, but it's splitting Harris at this point.

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01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:29.439
<v Speaker 4>All right. That's our Western Conference.

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01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 3>Just to recap, we have the San Antonio Spurs at one,

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01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the Thunder at two, the Lakers at three, Denver at four,

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01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota at five, Houston at six, Phoenix at seven, Portland

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01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.640
<v Speaker 3>at eight, Dallas at nine, the Clippers at ten, the

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01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Grizzlies at eleven, Jazz at twelve, Warriors thirteen, Pelicans fourteen,

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01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:53.159
<v Speaker 3>and Sacramento Kings bringing up the caboose at fifteen. Morton,

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01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:55.560
<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for joining us. Where can we

1398
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:56.319
<v Speaker 3>find your work?

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01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.479
<v Speaker 5>You can find my work over at Yahoo Sports and

1400
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:04.319
<v Speaker 5>the NBA podcast, And if somehow you understand Danish, you

1401
01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:06.880
<v Speaker 5>can find me at the podcast Buzzer Beat, or catch

1402
01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:09.720
<v Speaker 5>me calling games at HBO Mex.

1403
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.199
<v Speaker 4>Daniel, where can we find your work?

1404
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1405
01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Right here and have the check stol the pod or

1406
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Celtics Wire or Twitter at Daniel d one two one four.

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01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:20.920
<v Speaker 2>There's some stuff still going on there.

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01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Just what he said.

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01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, there you go, and you can find my

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01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.159
<v Speaker 3>work by following me on Instagram or Blue Sky if

1411
01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:30.359
<v Speaker 3>you want. But I'm just going to be posting mostly

1412
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 3>about the various bands that I'm in. I'm in too

1413
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:35.159
<v Speaker 3>many bands. That's why i have no time outside of

1414
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:37.600
<v Speaker 3>this podcast, because I mean too many bands. But I'll

1415
01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:41.439
<v Speaker 3>post about those there if you want to check that out.

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01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.760
<v Speaker 3>This has been another fabulous episode of Hai Chexsol. The

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01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.960
<v Speaker 3>pod as always to close out with something to remember

1418
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 3>or something to forget. Morton, this is your first time

1419
01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:52.479
<v Speaker 3>doing this, so we're going to model for you something

1420
01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:56.479
<v Speaker 3>to remember or something to forget. Could be about your job,

1421
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:01.720
<v Speaker 3>your life, the Celtics, basketball, broadly, Danish culture, spider Man,

1422
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to take it. How it goes, is

1423
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:10.399
<v Speaker 3>something like this. Justin I am going to remember that

1424
01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:17.600
<v Speaker 3>sometimes in the dog days of July, when you know

1425
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.520
<v Speaker 3>things are really slowing down in all different aspects of

1426
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:24.039
<v Speaker 3>your life, it's important to just reset to a somewhat

1427
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:28.359
<v Speaker 3>consistent routine, even after you have done some traveling. It

1428
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.920
<v Speaker 3>can do wonders for your mental health. If you are

1429
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.920
<v Speaker 3>like me and need basic structure in life in order

1430
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:36.720
<v Speaker 3>to make a turbulent and crazy world feel a little

1431
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 3>more sane. I would recommend just structuring your day at

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01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:41.479
<v Speaker 3>least a little bit.

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01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.920
<v Speaker 4>That's something to advice myself.

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01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:49.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I echo all of that, And I'm also going

1435
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:52.720
<v Speaker 6>to remember to remind the intern we do this exercise

1436
01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 6>for the East to make sure they include all of

1437
01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:59.319
<v Speaker 6>the lottery picks that are in the Eastern Conference as well.

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01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:02.199
<v Speaker 4>To note, Danielle, do you have something to remember and

1439
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:02.840
<v Speaker 4>or forget?

1440
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to remember this offseason where Brad Stevens

1441
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:13.520
<v Speaker 2>took one of the biggest reputation gambles ever trading a

1442
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:17.199
<v Speaker 2>beloved Celtics star, Jame with Brown to a rival, and

1443
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.960
<v Speaker 2>then that's kind of leading to a hated rival Lebron

1444
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:26.000
<v Speaker 2>James going to the rival Sixers in just a potential

1445
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.800
<v Speaker 2>for this to go really badly or him to look

1446
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:31.720
<v Speaker 2>ahead of the curve. It's a big gamble. Some people

1447
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:34.520
<v Speaker 2>are saying it's obvious that the Sixers are gonna be great.

1448
01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Some people think it's obvious that it's going to backfire.

1449
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I don't know, It's not that easy

1450
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:43.039
<v Speaker 2>to predict. But I think it's gonna be risky no

1451
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:43.399
<v Speaker 2>matter what.

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01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.000
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of crazy that we barely talked about the

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01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Celtics here on Havljak and stole the pot on this episode.

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01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:52.319
<v Speaker 4>Morton close us out something to remember, to forget.

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01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:55.560
<v Speaker 5>Something to remember, all right, I am going to remember

1456
01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:59.760
<v Speaker 5>that sometimes a player can force us all to fall

1457
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:02.720
<v Speaker 5>on our ass when he hits seven threes in his

1458
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:06.039
<v Speaker 5>opening Summer League game, after having hit a grand total

1459
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:08.359
<v Speaker 5>of seven threes at you and C the year before,

1460
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:12.119
<v Speaker 5>proving once and for all, oh my god, every analysis

1461
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.039
<v Speaker 5>we did on this guy throughout the entire year has

1462
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:19.079
<v Speaker 5>just gone to bits because he's a completely different player.

1463
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:21.840
<v Speaker 5>I am, of course talking about callables and who just

1464
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:28.119
<v Speaker 5>oh not mine. But that's that is something I'm going

1465
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.359
<v Speaker 5>to remember, because like I always spend time like reading

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<v Speaker 5>up and watching prospects, and sometimes you can get stuck

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<v Speaker 5>in the mud with certain analysis and then the guy

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<v Speaker 5>just comes out, flips your the finger and goes, hi,

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<v Speaker 5>I am not anything like that, and you just have

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<v Speaker 5>to own it, and you have to tear up your

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<v Speaker 5>scouting report, you have to throw it in the trash,

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<v Speaker 5>and you have to say good on user. I am

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<v Speaker 5>going to follow your career with a brand new set

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<v Speaker 5>of eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Morton, are you implying that team context matters a great

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<v Speaker 4>deal to how we perceive various players?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, right, crazy shocking another Morton hot take to

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<v Speaker 3>close out another terrific episode of.

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<v Speaker 5>Having abjective.

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<v Speaker 4>Contact.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a magazine at all, all old sty have hm. Hm,