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they represent. Now, before we start today's episode, guys, I
have to tell you I don't do this often, but
when I do, I hope you guys are listening. This
is one of those episodes that shook me to the core.
We have this amazing guest, your name is Sonya, and
the things that happened to me energetically were so profound.
You can literally see things happening to me in this
episode where I'm tearing out of one eye, there's pains,
there's all sorts of stuff, and we explain what happened
to me while it was happening. But the thing that
was really interesting about this episode is it through Zoom.
So this has happened in the studio multiple times, but
it's never happened on Zoom before. So sit back and
relax and be seated when you watch this, because there's
a lot of energy, a lot of transmissions coming through
this episode, and I really hope it helps you guys
on your spiritual journey.
Speaker 2: Enjoy.
Speaker 1: I like to welcome to this so Sonya show.
Speaker 2: K it is a mouthful I have. My name is
the first challenge for everybody. It has been my whole life.
I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much, Thank.
Speaker 1: You so much for being here. I've admired your work
from a distance for quite some time. Actually, I've seen
a lot of your work, and I love your energy,
and I love what you trying to You've been doing
since you were a child, trying to awaken people, which
was a lot tougher back in the day than it
is now. People are more open to it now than
they used to be.
Speaker 2: When I first started, I was actually, you know what, Alex,
they never started. I was always meant to do this work.
I grew up in a home where there was no
differentiation between the third dimension and the higher realms. We
lived with spirit as part of the culture of my family.
We set the table for the Visiting Guide as a
place of honor every day. So I was really thrown
when I started school. Actually that what was so obvious
that we had so much support and guidance and inner
senses and such a rich, energetic world. I was surprised
that other people were completely oblivious. I thought that must
be chaotic. How could you possibly live one day in
the world feeling safe without all of your awareness functioning.
So it was kind of a sh I kind of
had a reverse shock, and I've lived. I was thinking
of the evolution. First I was weirdo and a woo
and dismiss it dismissed, and I was the pariah, and
I was considered nuts. And now the world caught up.
I'm so glad neuroscience was born. Quantum physics validated what
I've been teaching for over fifty years.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's yeah. I gotta imagine that. God, You've seen
this thing change so rapidly, especially the last twenty years.
I would say twenty twelve was really a pivotal year
as well. Twenty twenty, obviously with the pandemic as well,
was a massive shift. But from twenty twenty on, every
year seems to be compounding, like interest on an account
for humanity. It's just getting bigger and stronger and more
chaotic and more unsettling for some. For some not for everybody,
but the world around us seems to be shifting in
a way that we're having problems just acclimating to it.
I mean, so right, it's.
Speaker 2: We're in a birth cycle to a new experience of
ourselves as multi dimensional souls. We have been living in
this this paper doll version of us, if you will,
with left brain and ego, and we're in literally energetic contractions,
like just when we're burst into the third dimension and
we come through the birth canal through contractions, we expand
and then we contract, and that gives us the sort
of an inner connection to our core frequency. So right now,
and really right now, we're in these huge contractions that
unnerve the nervous system. We can't find the familiar vibrationally
because finally our inner senses are turning on, but our
nervous systems have to calibrate and our belief systems have
to stop fighting it or find a way to assimilate
a new identity. So it's it's it's exciting and at
the same time for many people physically and emotionally quite debilitating.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's what I'm glad you brought that up.
The physical and the mental aspect, but the physical it's
now it's not even the stress of the change on
your brain or your mind, but it's literally physically you
can feel things people are I mean just things are
just you can feel things changing, and people really are
lost because if people have not been on this road
or have not been open to these ideas, all of
a sudden they turn to religion and they're like, that's
a dead end. They're not going to be They're not
going to tell you anything that they haven't been talking
about for two thousand years in some dogmatic, fear based
scenario where people are now searching for these kinds of shows,
searching for your kind of content, my kind of content,
because all the avenues that they have known are are
dead ends, so now they're looking for alternatives.
Speaker 2: I tell my students, and I've been telling them for
years that I've been teaching for years on how to
be a good channel, how to be a good guide,
And I always say, just remember we are the last stop.
When people find their way to us, they have already
exhausted every other resource. We are extreme emergency mode. Have
to recognize that the people that are coming aren't They
might on the conscious level be just curious, but on
an energetic level, they're in extreme anxiety because their outer
world is not it is not resonating with their inner experience,
and they have very little external validation. Now it's getting
better with shows like Yours and and the you know,
more and more waves and waves of people stepping forward
and saying, this is happening to me, I'm not Awareoh,
I don't have to hide, I don't have to ask
for permission anymore. But it's causing surges of vertigo, sleeplessness,
anxiety because our nervous systems have been It's sort of
like our nervous systems have been running on one ten
wattage and now we're at five point fifty and the
rest of us has to catch up because the planet
vibration has profoundly changed. We're getting surges of energy from
light beings who are trying to activate our inner senses
so that we start living multi dimensionally. And it is
tenth hour. We've been trying for a while here, and
now we're turning up the volume, so you can't be
in denial. However, that doesn't give you a necessarily a
framework unless you have conversations like this that help you
reassure yourself that this is real. And it's blowing my
mind because it's tearing down my whole paradigm, my whole
sense of who I am. So we're in we're in
the crystalis. It's the mush of the We're not caterpillars
and we're learning to fly, but we're in the mush
right now, completely dissolved old selves.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. So the these kind
of waves of things that are happening to humanity worldwide.
We were talking off air, you mentioned their contractions. I
love that analogy of the birth canal and contractions and
coming through the out of the dark into the light
in many ways, and so many times I've I've used
the analogy of like being inside of the womb is
very very comfortable, very known, very everything, but then all
of a sudden, ooh what's happening? Oh I oh, this
is not comfortable anymore, and let me oh there's a tunnel.
Oh god, this is even rougher, it's tightened. So we're
going through that prooint to get to the light, which
I was talking to. Uh, I forgot who I was
talking to the other day, but they said, the analogy
of birth is the analogy that we hear in your
death experiences.
Speaker 2: And we are having a death of ego experience right
now collectively, at least death of ego as our identity.
We are recognizing we are experiencing and activation of our
core identity, our core frequency, and it is overriding the
personality and the traumas and the history. There's a sense
of us that we were getting waves. Humans are getting
waves of I'm really powerful. I don't know how. It's
sort of like Harry Potter. I don't have to use
my magic yet, but I feel it, followed by a
huge contraction, who do you think you are? This is crazy?
The world's going you know, to have in a handbasket.
Then another wave of Oh I can manifest and feeling
angels and guides, and then another contraction, Oh, I'm scared.
We're gonna run out of money. The politics are gonna
blow us all up. So that's what we're going through.
But the light and.
Speaker 3: The intent to the intent to be in divine frequency
is going to override all the contractions.
Speaker 2: Our collective intent to expand is unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Sonya though, what you just said, This contraction of like,
I see, I can hear my guides. Oh my god,
we're gonna die. I can say, I can talk to it,
I can feel the intuition. Oh my god, we're losing
all our money.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: All these kind of for the uninitiated, must seem chaotic
and insane because they don't know. They don't have a
reference point of what has happened. They have no reference
point of what is happening. So it must be I mean,
it's tough for people who do know what's happening, let
alone for people who are uninitiated in these higher frequency
or higher vaperations or higher right knowledge that the ancients
have been talking about, the Yogis have been talking about,
the Egyptians have been talking about for thousands of years,
you know, all the Vedic texts and so on. But
it must seem so insane. I think that's probably why
people not only feel that way, but now we're all
connected through social media, so now we see everybody going crazy.
Speaker 2: All the time. So it is sensory overload, where our
nervous systems are not designed to take up in this
much mental information. Our mental channels are absolutely imploding from overload.
Our emotional channels are contracting and collapsing. And there's a
good thing. There's a lot of good coming about it.
But what I've been doing from the beginning, and what
I've been teaching people is that number One, you have
to change your identity to make sense of any of this.
And the identities that we've been given are personality and history.
You're where you're from, your parents, your family, your history,
and that is a closed system. It is a mental
system and is an emotional system that does not give
you any access to the spirit in you. The step
that has to be had, I think, I go back
to the commandments, is not to have false gods. It's
the first commandment. So we have to start recognizing that
the divine is internal, is in me, and I want
to lean into discovering that I can't just blindly accept it.
I want to experience it, and so we have to
we have to start unraveling it. Like onion skins off,
these are my these are my fears, and these are
my emotions, and this is my history. Where's my spirit?
So I always like to start with asking tell me
about your spirit, because the minute you start giving voice
to your spirit its awake, Like, for example, tell me
about your spirit, Alex.
Speaker 1: About my spirit? Yeah, oh, I have never been put
on the spot. This is my show. No I'm joking.
Speaker 2: I don't you have a beautiful spirit. And when we
start to voice it something that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's ever asked me that before. So that's
really interesting. So tell me about your spirit. I've never
actually had a conversation about my spirit, Like, it's not
something I've ever thought about. So let me see. Let
me just see what comes in it. Yeah, let me
see what comes in as I'm as I'm thinking about
it is it is a spirit that wants to serve.
It is a spirit that wants to connect. It is
a spirit that wants to love and wants to help. Now,
everything I just explained were exterior things that the spirit does.
It wasn't anything to do with me. It's the work
which says volumes about me.
Speaker 2: Well, and that you are you are on a mission. Yeah,
and so go under that. What kind of spirit do
I am? Am? I that assign myself to this mission.
Speaker 1: An empathetic one for sure, one that loves humanity and
wants to see humanity grow and evolve. Past this insanity
that we are doing to ourselves. Not comparing myself in
the least to any of the people I'm about to say,
but the masters like Jesus or Buddha, when they came
in into those worlds. Again, not comparing myself. Anybody in
the comminants to come to these guys.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't feel like you are vibrationally on any level.
Speaker 1: No, But my point is any of these Saint Francis
of Assis, Saint Germaine, any of these masters who walked
the earth before, when they came, they came in with
a mission to elevate and evolve and raise the frequency
of humanity, and they did it in their own way.
Some were so powerful that their vibrations are still rippling
to this day. Most of the just the four four
souls that I spoke about, all of them are still
rippling in one way, shape or form, things that were
done hundreds, if not thousands of years ago, because the
truths were so powerful. But I can only imagine the
frustration of a Jesus or a Buddha walking around trying
to explain the truths of the universe to consciousnesses that
were just so such, not at that level not even
understanding basic understand I mean when Jesus was saying, the
Kingdom of Heaven is within you. Everything I can do,
you can do and more that you know those concepts
you know, do onto others as you would have wanted
to be done onto you. For us, this seems like
a very basic understanding to them, that was revolutionary and
even a troublemaker. You should be ousted from the city
because you said those things. I can only imagine the
frustration that those masters.
Speaker 2: What I see and how I work is I see
the soul, a veryone in the spirit, and so what
I see is that you were there in your here
and it's been pretty much a continuum. And I'm curious, half,
isn't that slightly crossed your mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your spirit, that's your hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's it's it has crossed my mind, sonya. But
it's something that I don't like to eat even think about,
because because the ego can take the ego. The ego
could all of a sudden, like I've walked with this
and I did this, and.
Speaker 2: Here's another thing, just because I'm spinning it up, but
I never plan on it, just as what's coming in
in who you are and your consciousness today, is that
ego really threatening in current time at your at the
frequency of consciousness now that you really would be tempted
to right See that's your spirit again. See again. That's
why I'm differentiating between the frequency of ego and mind.
And it's it's very clear that there were times in
your evolutionary experience and the third dimension that you drifted
here or there. But you've been doing this for this
is your soul, just like me and my soul. This
is something that came in with This is why you
are so conscious of the masters. It's because you had
engagement for lifetimes in the higher dimensions. There is no time.
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Speaker 2: It's just this is my soul. This is what I'm
here to do is raise the plant and be part
of the team at any rate. Not that I'm the
leader necessarily or would want to be, but I'm encouraging
people recognize your soul because that is how you will
start making sense of everything. And it is just there.
Speaker 1: So Sonya, let me you bring up a very good
point because in this analysis of my spirit, something has
kind of come up. I love the session when I witnessing,
witnessing of my spirit, that my mind and my ego,
my my fear a fall into an egocentric path is
an old, old vibration, very very old. Yeah, it's very old.
It's nothing that would happen to me today, purely because
not that I don't have an ego. We all have ego,
but being being in Hollywood for almost thirty years, being
around ego and then some and then also my own
journeys through that process of having a little fame as
a director and then having my having it crushed and
a little bit more fame and having it crushed in
a little and handling all of that. When I get
to this place now in my life, and also age two,
I've been around for a few minutes, it's I don't
even if I could do this, I'll be honest with you.
I've said this before. If I could do this without
being on camera, I would. I'd rather not be in
the spotlight. I much rather be the director.
Speaker 2: And you know, here's when I'm helping people recognize we
believe you because of your frequency. It's not because of
your narrative. It's not because of your your enthusiasm to
say I am not motivated. I feel it, and people
feel it. And this is the new experience that people
are having, is that they can begin to sense heart
truth versus ego, which is a very contracted and rigid
frequency and it's very breathless and fear based versus emotion,
which is spongy and kind of sucks you in and
you lose power versus spirit, which is clear. I'm clear,
but one of the things I really am very much
committed to and have been forever. And even the spirit
channel that I channel, the guide's the channel say to
get people to talk about it, because that's where the
power comes, is to express my spirit. Because didn't a
part of you come into a little bit of alignment
when you started talking about your spirit? Of course, yeah,
it's like a coherence that you can't deny.
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because when you were when you
were asking me the question, automatically I stopped. I put
the brakes on, and I'm analyzing this. I put the
brakes on because I didn't but that old fear of
like oh no, no, no no, I don't want to kind
of talk about myself. I don't want to go down
this road I don't want to go. It was interesting.
It's interesting that you kind of put that obstacle in
front of me and then I pulled back, centered myself
and then just allowed whatever came through to come through.
But it was very interesting to me that I was
that kind of test. And I'm not sure if that's
what you meant her not to.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have the intention. Everything I do come spontaneously.
I don't think I'm just channel But what I feel
from my own observation is that it was just a
beautiful demonstration to people and how to come into spirit safely.
And yes, you will meet with the resistance of the
ego which wants to be in charge, and you breathe
through it and take a pause and it comes and
that it is you, the divine, you embodied now. And
you just demonstrated something that we could talk around for
months and people would still be in their head, but
you walk through it and that was really powerful.
Speaker 1: It was It actually kind of showed me a lot
about myself. It's such a fascinating thing. Soya, I've never
seen this happen before to me on the show or
off the show, that you asked me a very simple question,
but it was such a profound question that it challenged
the ego and challenged my beliefs and challenged my own paradigm.
And it was a simple question. It was a non
aggressive question. It was a very beautiful question. But when
if you ask somebody that tell me about your spirit,
that's not a question you hear. You don't hear that often.
Speaker 2: No, it's beautiful. And this is how I ask how
I always get to know people tell me about your spirit.
I see it. I see it in your eyes, see
it in your smile. I can see it in the
light that's coming off of your skin. And the ego
is trying to protect you. So first that's the contraction,
but you took a breath. And here's the interesting thing.
Can even watch this back when people are asked about
their spirit, some part of you always kind of like
like I'm seeing, I'm seeing, I'm in here, and I'm seeing.
There is a part of you, even if the ego
has its own reaction, that's happy that that feels like, yes,
that's the me I want to live. That's the me
that's driving I call it driving the bus. You want
the spirit to drive the bus of your life. My
guides are very funny. They speak in metaphors because people
remember them. And like they say, don't let your your
your egos your barking dog. And your barking dog is
your companion to the spirit. You know, it's not the enemy.
It's the helper. You don't shoot the dog. You train
the dog, and you let the dog. The ego in
service to spirit, which yours clearly is. It's such a
beautiful and it's the divine it's the divine plan. We
need our egos to navigate, to differentiate, to make choices too.
But the ego is not a problem. It's when the
ego is trying to lead because it's not qualified. It
knows that it's temporary. And when we live with ego
and in l A, I've been enough in l A
and I've been in and out of enough experiences. Heavy
ego is really sickening to the to the to the body,
to the to the to the spirit. It's it's it's
like the Buddhists called it, the hungry ghost. You can
never you can never give it enough. It's and and
so I think the world is getting aware of that.
I think there and we're seeing such a parade of
egos right now posturing that we can step back and
it's it's exaggerated enough to say, well, it's all kind
of ridiculous. It's too much. It's too much because the
ego is the separator and the spirit is the connector.
Speaker 1: So as we're talking, the thing that pops into my
mind is that there's so many people who are feeling
these changes and don't understand them. It almost sounds like
the nerve has been opened. So we're raw nerves right now,
as opposed to the casing the cap. Let's use teeth
as an example. You had a cap on. You had
a cap on, and it protected you from all of
the things that come in and out of your mouth.
But it seems like someone's pulled the cap off and
the nerve is now exposed, and now every little breeze
you're just like, ah, oh, eat, And that seems what's
happening to us energetically. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: It absolutely does. And here's the antidote. And my teacher,
one of my first master teachers, taught me this when
I was ten eleven. He said, whatever you fear most,
lean into first. So what I do is invite my
students to start instead of trying to protect your fear
or manage them, which good luck with that, name them
and then breathe through them. So I always say what
are you afraid of? And I'm afraid of being alone?
And I'll say, what do you see right in front
of you, right in front of you, right now? That's beautiful?
And I always identify, look for what's beautiful because the
ego scans for separation, dissonance, theret trouble, and it filters
out what the spirit wants you to see. Beauty, harmony, connectivity, life.
So I say, breeze, what do you see that's beautiful?
And then I call it emptying the garbage just and
what else are you afraid of? And a big a
lot of fair. I'm afraid the world's.
Speaker 1: Going to end.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, breeze, breeze. Empty, empty is the new normal,
bellied to spine empty. I teach people I don't want
to give you. I want to give you tools so
you can change things fast instead of get stuck in
more information. So just keep emptying and what else do
you see?
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
And now back to the show, and.
Speaker 2: After a minute or two, I'll stand, what are you
afraid of? And they'll say, I don't have anything else.
They've emptied the garbage, and then I'll stand, what put
your hand on your heart when on the belly, what
does your spirit say? And you need to voice it
out loud because the voice of your ego sounds very
different than the voice of your spirit. Feels different. It
sounds different, your face is different, your eyes are different,
and the spirit. When you voice the spirit, all that
tension relaxes instantly, and so we need tools to navigate
and retrain our nervous system through it, because you can't
think yourself through it. You can't even inform yourself through it.
You actually have to calibrate through it to a We
have to calibrate to a higher frequency and get used
to it and breathe and listen and not just listen
with your head. You listen with your whole body. And
you don't listen to words. You listen to vibration, and
you listen to see if that vibration is causing stress
and contraction and taking your breath or if it's causing expansion.
Oh and bringing your spirit into your body. It's really
pretty simple, but we have to do it. We can't
think it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: We've been having this lovely conversation, but a lot of
people don't know who you are in the sense of
what you do. We didn't even mentioned that you're an intuitive.
You mentioned to your channel a little bit. What exactly
can you tell everybody exactly what your your superpowers are
if you will well.
Speaker 2: In a way, I feel like I feel like I'm
a bit of the og because I've been teaching people
to activate their inner senses and that we are multi
dimensional intuitive beings connected to the divine realms. For over
fifty years, I have written thirty two books. I've traveled.
They're in over thirty languages. I've traveled the world. But
what I do, I'm a channel. I've been channeling. I
always channel GUIDs, but I have a particular group of
guides I've been channeling since twenty twelve. They've written two
of my books. They're joacques Um and The Emissaries of
the Third Ray, Second Octave of Love. They are like
beings who have come to help me teach people how
to calibrate to a higher frequency and live as a
divine being not just want it, but to actually experience it.
That's so in a way, I'm kind of the bridge builder,
not just the messenger. I'm like, I'm going to walk
you over the bridge. And so all my work and
all my books and all my channeling is really about
incremental shifts that can actually help you hold a higher
vibration and not get stuck in your head and numb out,
or get drowned in your emotions and buried in your fears.
So I keep bringing you back to the highest frequency experientially,
and in that place you will channel. You will connect
to your guides, you will learn, you will manifest quickly,
you will become timeless and reduce the wear and tear.
So everybody that shares that this is possible, I come
in and say, and I'll show you how to experiences
right now and help you own it instead of just
want it. Now.
Speaker 1: You said you were a channel, What kind of channel
are you? Are you trans channel?
Speaker 2: Or I channel a group of guides and I have
for a long time now. They wrote two books, The
first one Soul Lessons and Sole Purpose, and the second
book is Soul Mastery, The twenty two Lessons to Reinvent
your life. And these guides are light beings that have
been with me since twenty twelve. They came in in
Kawaii where I was doing beautiful deep immersions with a
whole team of healers and helpers, and they are beautiful
blue guides and there they are builders. They help us
create vibration and stabilize it and build it to hold frequency.
So when they come in, they give very specific instruction
to how to adjust your just your vibration or where
you're drifting, or how to come back to center, and
how to really become a new version of yourself, how
to live as a soul guided by timeless spirit instead
of how to live as a disconnected personality that is
lonely and fearful because of the disconnect. So when my
guides come in, they transmit. That's the other thing I do.
I do transmissions, and it's like jump starting the frequency
so you can actually begin to activate your inner senses.
And when I work with people and I teach classes,
it's all about leveling you up and then teaching you
to hold that frequency so that it becomes comfortable and
you don't just keep collapsing back into false identity. To tease.
So it's quite a quite an experience.
Speaker 1: Actually, do you have you do you channel? Is it
a trans channel or is it just kind of a
pass through?
Speaker 2: No, it'll be a transit. Io Joakim he comes in.
He is the speaker for the emissaries, his vibration. But
the emissaries is a whole team of guides that come in.
They they work on the They are the third ray,
which is the ray of consciousness, and we're undoing the
mental impact and starting to bring in the second octave
of love, to replace fear with love, to replace defense
with connection. So they will come in and if you'd
like them, I can. I can bring them in.
Speaker 1: Oh that would be amazing. I wasn't prepared for this,
so this will be fun.
Speaker 2: And the thing that the emissaries will do is they
will answer questions and they will calibrate the frequency. They
were the ones that asked, how was your spirit?
Speaker 1: Oh, well then I have to that we have to
have a conversation to be acted.
Speaker 2: So the thing is they really do go right to
the heart of you. So if there are layers, just
be prepared for that.
Speaker 1: I'm already feeling something, so go for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so I'm going to just take a breath.
I'm going to ask you to just breathe with me,
just to calibrate the frequency. Just breathe in through the
nose first, eyes open, and pause. Then i want you
to gently breathe out, like you're blowing out a candle,
pull your belly to the spine. I'm empty. I'm going
to do that one more time. I want you to
breathe in with me, slowly, eyes open, just feeling how
good it feels to breathe, clearing into the belly, and
then again with intention empty all that you're holding onto
and all that is holding on to you. And now
I'm going to invite you to shift your consciousness and
stretch your imagination and imagine that you're breathing from your
feet up into your heart space. And as you do,
i want you to notice how the ribs open as
the heart expands, and pause. And I'm going to ask
you to take a second breath, eyes closed to the crown,
and pause and begin to open the crown with your
imagination the best you can, with no effort, and then
take a third breath as high as you can imagine,
and pause, and then I'm going to invite you to
open your jaw wide as though you're yawning, and slide
with me all the way to the heart space with
a big yawn and a big sigh ah, And then
smile and feel the activation of the heart chakra opening
both front and back and allow the flood of spirit
to enter the field that we share and have it
push out and expand above and below, front and back
into both sides, all interference, so that we are in
a beautiful, clear space of unconditional love. Ah. I am Joaquin,
emissary of the third ray, second octave of love, and
we are so honored to have attention and that of
your most gorgeous community, and we are at your service.
Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to connect.
Speaker 1: Yes, my first question is can you explain the divine
laws to us in a way that we can integrate
them into our daily lives, either one or two of them.
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Speaker 2: All divine law is simply to help you understand that,
in spite of the illusions of the third dimension, universe
is beautifully and elegantly designed orchestrated and flows with grace.
Divine law is the understanding. Consciousness is the engine through
which all experience unfolds. In the third dimension, the heart
merges with consciousness. In the fourth dimension, and in the
fifth to infinite dimensions, love takes over and begins to
show us how each facet of the universe is organized, predictable, orderly,
and benevolent. The task is to understand with each simple
principle that you are indeed a divine, infinite soul. The
laws are here to teach you how to live that
experience and liberate yourself from the illusions that have been
imposed upon you and have robbed you of your divine connection.
Do not trouble yourselves to understand the universe, or it
just too vest and quite simply cannot be understood in
intellectual terms. But do accept that you are a divine
being made only of love, here to use that expression
of love to create beauty, connection, wholeness in light. We
implore you to be simple, for it is seductive to
follow the mind. It is an endless vortex of confusion
that will take you away from your true source in
the heart, the love.
Speaker 1: Yes, my next question is from your perspective, What does
the next five to ten years look like for humanity's
spiritual evolution.
Speaker 2: We are so excited, so thrilled to see the collective
consciousness of humanity has already decided. Despite what is projected
or appears upon your screens, humanity has already chosen love.
It will reject those constructs of separation, isolation, physical and
mental and emotional destruction. The collapsing of structure that you
see at this time is an illusion. It is the
breaking of the ground for the new Earth to emerge,
and it is well underway. Do not fear what is
falling apart for what is coming right behind. It is beautiful,
beyond imagination. But we do inform you that you are
not limited to your own devices at the human level.
You are so loved that all the galactic forces are
now helping and assisting to elevate the planet. It will
unfold in extraordinary creations that boggle the human imagination. Energies
will rise from places not known. Purifications will come that
seem from this present vantage point not possible. Physical extension
of life will become very available for those who choose.
Within a matter of three or four years, most conscious
people will have this connection to spirit that we are
sharing Now, technology will know longer hold the human spirit.
The human spirit will rise, and technology will find its
proper and supportive place. The human heart is breaking open.
We are so happy to be at your service in
this most magnificent transformational period.
Speaker 1: The next question is what is the biggest energetic or
cons consciousness shift humanity will experience in this coming decade.
Speaker 2: Surrender of the ego to realities that are incomprehensible to control.
The higher courses of the universe will make themselves known.
The dimes, the womb you speak of, will implode, and
there will be liberation to a new reality. Holding on
to what is presently known and understood is futile. The
majority of humanity knows and feels this, even though they
do not articulate. Those who fight most create the most
noise and resistance, But even they know in their heart
frequency that their battles are futile. They cannot stop evolution,
they cannot stop transformation, for it is collectively decided. We
implore you to seek joy in the daily moments, for
this is the highest frequency to elevate the planet collectively.
The moments where you allow joy laughter. Freedom comes divine
energies flow through laughter. Joy is the frequency of the future,
a frequency nearly forgotten on your planet in this third dimension,
as one who would like to facilitate their own healing,
their own reassurance, their own possibilities, seek joy, express joy, laughter, surrender.
That is what laughter is. Complete surrender of the ego
mind that when the divine forces that are assisting can
help your spirit express easily, elegantly, naturally.
Speaker 1: Next question is how can we let go of the
fear that so many of us are having because of
the chaotic changes that are happening around the world.
Speaker 2: This is ego fearing its own death. Distinguish between being fearful,
which is calibrating to a collective vibration that threatens the
ego and the physical existence from actual danger. The spirit
knows it is timeless, Your spirit knows itself. Breathe into
the spirit and the fear death of change, powerlessness that
exists all the time in the third dimension and is
only amplified to a horrific level at this time, but
has always been. The frequency running the majority of this
dimension is an illusion. Connect with the spirit, Connect with
the soul, Connect with the timelessness of you, and fear
will naturally subside.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise, the mind tries to wrestle it to no avail,
tries to run from it with no success, tries to bargain,
always always losing. This is ego trying to be in control.
Focus on the soul. Fall in love with the spirit
of you. You will then connect to the multi dimensional, timeless, immortal, divine,
and infinite identity that you are, which will leave you
free of such intimidation.
Speaker 1: How can individuals best serve the collective during this time
of great transformation?
Speaker 2: Again, we go back to joy, moments of intimate connection.
Shared pleasure and laughter has such a profound and lasting
ripple through the collective. You cannot fear what you laugh at,
not in smirk, not in arrogance, not in condescension, but joy,
the spirit free joy. We have said through many channels
the best way to help the sorrow of this planet
is not to drown in it. It is part of
the human experience, for the human experience is temporary. Your
soul knows this, Your spirit does not fear this. Your
spirit then can enjoy fully the experiences that this dimension
allows without trying to keep it going forever. Shift your identity,
remember who you are through laughter, not literature, Through music,
through song, through poetry, through nature. You remember it's fleeting
at the moment because the contractions of the mental frequencies
are so loud. Remove the noise, Withdraw from the transmissions
being thrown at you repeatedly to keep you in fear.
Sing for it opens the channels to the heart, which
then open you to the multi dimensional self. Pray prayers
open to your spirit, even if you don't know what
you are praying, or or two. It is simply a
surrender to allow a higher frequency of love, to relieve
your mind of trying to manage the unmanageable, trying to
perpetuate what is temporary, trying to control what is uncontrollable. Instead,
you rise out of this chaos, and you begin to
resonate and express in harmony, in beauty, and in true creativity.
Speaker 1: What is your greatest hope for humanity? As we collectively
learn to dance with this universe, we have.
Speaker 2: Moved past hope. Humanity has made its choices. Humanity will rise.
The New Earth is underway. Love is prevailing. Healing is
indeed occurring at a far greater level than the chaos
you are observing every day with your screens and your
mediums that want to keep you in fear. We just
hold the frequencies provide tremendous support and guidance. Knowing the
human spirit is awakening in all beings and the new
Earth is underway. Know that broadcast that be the light
that everybody is seeking, and you will accelerate the newer's
experience for all.
Speaker 1: If you could offer one law or principle for people
to begin practicing today, which would it be and.
Speaker 2: Why versus suggestion? Bree, Bree, Breath in the light, Exhale
and let go and empty the rest. Breathe. It's so simple.
The ego dismisses this as not enough. It wants more
information or complexity, something that flatters its importance. But truly, breathe.
Breath is spirit. The breath of you is the eternal self. Smile.
When you smile, you open the porl of the heart.
You enter the higher frequencies instantly, you can feel it.
We do not ask you to believe us. We invite
you to create experiences for yourselves that you can trust.
Let go instead of grab on, empty, instead of accumulate,
simplify instead of amplify. Be grateful, Pay attention to the
beauty before you give it importance. Recognize that it is
a gift. Receive the gift, the beauty of the birds,
the trees, the smile of the people around you, the
services one does for one another. See the beauty. There
is more beauty than there is chaos. Turn away from
the chaos. Don't feed and amplify the chaos. Feed, amplify,
Celebrate the beauty. There is so much beauty all around,
in humans, all around. Give that importance, celebrate that, Sing
about that, and the newerth will amplify and be here
before you know it. We have no hope. We are confident.
Speaker 1: And finally, do you have any parting messages that you
would like to give to the audience listening now and
in the future.
Speaker 2: This is not as scramble for more information. This is
to invite you to relieve your minds of trying to
find the edges of this chaos so that you can
bring it into management. You are safe. Go back to
your breath, go back to what you love. Create beauty.
It can be as simple as a conversation with another.
It can be as simple as flowers on your table.
See beauty, elegance, harmony, the grace of humanity, and the
spirit that is within all beings. Look for the spirit,
celebrate the spirit, do not admire the chaos, and do
not control it. Let it go.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I am Joaquim. We are the emissaries of the third ray,
second octave of love. So honored to have had this
occasion of your most holy attention. And we thank you
and leave you in peace.
Speaker 1: And she's back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very beautiful teachers, they are.
Speaker 1: They are beautiful. I have to I have to say so. Yeah.
I've been doing this for a long time. I already
felt them coming in before they came in.
Speaker 2: I believe you.
Speaker 1: I don't say this often. It doesn't happen often. It's
happened only a couple of times. But this was a
very unique experience for me, and I have to share it.
I have to share it with you. I was going
to share it with you off air, but I'm going
to share it with you on air because I think
it's something that people need to hear. We'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor and now back
to the show. As as you were, like probably about
five minutes before you said you were in a channel,
I already started to feel something on this side of
my face, the pressure, which is something I felt before
with channels and psychic mediums and so on. There was
a pressure here and that's when I said, oh, I
can feel something already. Bring them in. That's what I
was referring to as the session with them came in.
The pressure. My eye is watering because the pressure is
so much. It's all on the right side. Then everything
happened on the right side of me. I started to
feel I mean almost like a The pressure was intense
enough that it was semi painful. And then the front
where the third eye is, all of a sudden started
to get activated. But the thing that really and these
are not new sensations for me, but it doesn't happen often,
especially through a zoom call. It happens in person. I've
had it happen more than not, but not in a
zoom call. But the thing that got me is my
chest here started to feel pain. It was a painful
kind of pressure, not like but enough for me. Yeah,
I was kind of like, I'm I'm like I feel
better now after they've they left and the pressure seems
to have gone away, though the eye is still I'm
still kind of watering a little bit.
Speaker 2: That hasn't happened as the vibration was rising through traveling
through your field and hitting every contraction or every block
or every resistance and pushing through because you are a
channel and you have been also an emissary of unconditional
love and you're you're opening now. I'm here to help
you open and kind of midwife that that sense of
divine you. You are devoted to love and spirit.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's a devotion. You have had this devotion for lifetimes
and your spirit has wanted to be pure, your your
mind has wanted to be aligned. So you've had so
many lifetimes where where it couldn't be quite. I can't
be sure. I got to be sure, but we buzzed
it out and just changed your matrix and it's going
to organize a bit differently. It'll be wildly beautiful.
Speaker 1: Well can you feel it? Of course I could feel it.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It's something I haven't I haven't felt that specifically before.
I've had elements of it before. But the precursor was
interesting to me that I already started feeling it before
we ever, just for everybody to know. You and I
never discussed channeling as you.
Speaker 2: I don't think even I did much channeling, but.
Speaker 1: No, I was. I was focusing more on the intuitive
aspect of your teachings and your spiritual teacher. I didn't
really even know that you channeled like this, so but
I felt something coming. It was so fascinating. I've never
had that happen before on the show or in person,
that I felt something coming, And then he was like,
do you want me to channel? And at the second
you said that, I said, yeah, yeah, let's go. I
literally said to you, I feel something already, because that's
exactly what was going on. But as you were, as
they came in the energy, my energy started to shift
so much, and physical pain, not like.
Speaker 2: You know, it's contraction, it's it's pushing this and this
frequency that has had a hold on you so that
your heart energy can come through well.
Speaker 1: And then the thing was that it was like a
pulse as well. I've had that happen. I've had that
happen a lot here in my meditations and things like that,
but this was kind of like, but this is the
thing that that never happened before. This pain here. It's
not my heart. My heart's over here somewhere, if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 2: It's a protection.
Speaker 1: It was something going on there, it was, and that
caught me off guard. I was like, hm, you know.
And and then I was also in a very I'm
very energetic now, but during this channeling session, I was
almost my eyes start. I just wanted to go into meditation.
I was just in this like.
Speaker 2: The frequency was really different. It comes in and it's
really almost like a huge chiropractic adjustment to our frequency.
And I'm trying to teach people that the reason intuition
gets misunderstood is because it's been a catch all word
that is actually confused core perception, you know, divine frequency
of this spirit with projection and wishful thinking and emotions
and sensation and even telepathy, which is not really a
skill that's particularly useful. It can be for convenience here
and there, But intuition means inner teacher. So we're separating
all these frequencies so we can sense and discern that
true guide frequency because it changes your body.
Speaker 1: As you're talking, My my jaw starting to shake again.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had I know why. It's because your
spirit is so beautiful and it's so full of love
and devotion, and we're and it wants to it's busting out.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't mean.
Speaker 2: To scramble your eggings. But listen, it's divine. It's not
even personal, it's it's our It's a divine appointment.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. So I am, out of everybody
on the planet, I think I'm very I have a
unique perspective because I've been able to be exposed to
so much of this kind of energy, these kind of teachings,
talking to people like yourself for years now, hundreds, hundreds
and thousands. Yeah, well obviously in this lifetime, in this
lifetime hundreds of people. So it doesn't affect me the
same as it does a lot of other people, just
because I'm I have a resistance to it. A few sins.
So when something like this happens to me. It happened
recently with another guest on the show, which people are
losing their minds over that episode because of the transmission
and the energy that went through. I have a feeling
that's going to happen on this interview as well, that
people are going to be like, you know, people have
to stop and just go I gotta sit down.
Speaker 2: I can't it's even calibrating.
Speaker 1: My head right now is kind of spinning.
Speaker 2: So I'll help you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have like almost like a almost like a
it's not a headache, but it's not not a headache.
Speaker 2: Well, what it is is this the matrix of you,
which is beliefs, of motions, spirit, ego. It creates a system,
and that system we just level up. So the old
system's contracting while the news system's expanding. And so there's
a way to work with this. Just breath. Go back
to the breath and go back to the ground and
breathe up from your feet through your trunk into your
heart space and pause, eyes open. Take another breath up
to crown and pause, eyes open. Take another breath all
the way to the highest point you can imagine, and
open your jaw, and you're gonna feel a click in
your ear. You're gonna feel a click in your throat,
in your chest, high heart, heart, all the way to
the belly. Oh, drop in with a vocal sigh, because
your voice will calibrate the frequency. Ah gently smile a
second sigh. Maybe is something you feel. Do you want
to do? Ah? Let the space behind your eyes relax
around your forehead and jaw and just say unwind. Unwind
all as well, ah, and then smile. Slowly rub your
palms together. Feel the frequency between your palms palm to
palm is very gentle. Place your palms over your eyes
and tap the third eye, which is what's been activated
and causing all this discomfort. After you tap it, open
your eyes behind the palms. Palms over your eyes. Let
your eyes drift to your lapper to the table in
front of you. Eyes open and calibrate. Palms to the table,
bring your eyes to eye level. Breathe and calibrate gently
look above you. Breathe and calibrate. Ah, there you go.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. Better.
Speaker 2: Well, we activated this and your heart chakra so you'll
feel better. But also drink water. Do you have some?
I always have this much. It's like it's ridiculous. But water,
you have some water? I mean?
Speaker 1: That is that helped? That helped I feel a little
bit better. To give people an explanation of the pressure,
it felt like someone was sitting on half of my face.
Speaker 2: That is your third eye opening. That is the pineal
glen in the throat chakra opening the heart, the third eye, This,
this and this, it goes like a triangle here and
then up and it surged open because you really were receptive,
but it overwhelmed. It's like a computer that got a
surge and it stopped where there was. You really have
a lot of superpower around being mental. You love love ideas,
you love creating, you love evaluating you, and it get
that frequency and then it pushed back and it's trying
to go to the next level, which is not thinking
but observing and being, and they're still kind of negotiating,
so I'll just call that a negotiating calibration.
Speaker 1: So this is this is uh, this has been an
eye opening literally eye opening, uh and eye open.
Speaker 2: And the water the tears are the healing waters of
the spirit. The tears you really need to just pat them.
That's that's released. That's that's the spirit releasing. But it's
beautiful and you will you will probably sleep really deeply
and you will feel better. But your mind's going like,
wait a minute, I didn't bargain for this, So I
got it.
Speaker 1: I got it. Adjust we didn't walk into that. I know.
Speaker 2: To have this effect on people, but it's a divine appointment,
so it's all perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. So where can people find out more
about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of places I do teach on my
own YouTube channel and bring in the guides. I always
try to teach the most common sense, not high high high,
just do this, do this, do this, to keep calibrating.
I have, of course, my my website on your show
cat dot net. But are there's you know, I teach
bite sizes on Instagram just whatever. I'm here, so you
can find me on Instagram or on YouTube or my website.
And a lot of books. I've written a lot of books,
so you'll find one, including the books that were written
from Joaquin and Emissaries. So Mastery as the recent one.
Because the world has changed, they rewrote it to the
new frequency and so lessons and sole purpose, So and
trust your vibes. That's the one that I think should
be in everyone's bathroom. It's about to take that much
a day. It's enough, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1: So do you have any final words or messages or
blessings you would like to give the audience.
Speaker 2: Well, first I'd like to give one to you. I
really do see you as this unbelievable emissary of love,
and you have traveled through so many dimensions of human
ego and creativity and how you've separated them out and
are helping others. So I really want to thank you
first and to acknowledge that the heart of you is
so good and so beautiful, ego of you is so
aligned that it's it's all very graceful. And then to
everybody that you're that it that has come to listen.
You're beautiful. And the most important message that that Joe
came in the emissaries as well as I have so
many other guides a channel, but that the way forward
is to take your eyes off the chaos and the
and the ugliness and see the beauty because it's the harmonizer,
it's the activator to the spirit. See the beauty in
your eyes, in your smile, and the plants around you,
in the clouds there, in the in the kind person,
in the little kid. If we focus on the beauty,
we will naturally fall into the flow and the grace
of the spirit without figuring it out, and most likely
you'll never figure it out, so don't stress yourself about it.
Feel it out instead.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this has been an experience, to say my honor.
I did not expect it, nor was I prepared for it,
and I'm still dealing with the aftermath of this conversation.
So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken
this planet, and I look forward to our next conversation.
I really do so thank.
Speaker 2: You, Thank you, thank you so much for inviting me.
It was an honor to give me this opportunity. And
I send love from my guides, from my higher self,
from my human self, so much love and gratitude and
so much real big hug connection. Okay, thank you all
my love.
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