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Speaker 1: You am now listening to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Softcore History. I'm your

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host of the week, Damna Jester, joined us always by

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Robert Fox.

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up man?

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Speaker 1: Not much, not much, just at the end of a

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long pass weekend.

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Speaker 2: Have to keep you in check. Your mom told me to.

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Speaker 1: She told you to make me stop saying that the

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F word so many times.

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Speaker 2: In order to get an extra listener, aka, your mom's

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you gotta stop cursing.

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Speaker 1: I gotta stop cursing so much because she's old. And

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she listened to one episode of the podcast and now.

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Speaker 2: She was not old. How dare you? She's a wonderful

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young lady.

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Speaker 1: She mentally, I want to be that sharp at seventy.

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Would you even guess she was in her seventies?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's credible. Now my dad is three years older,

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and he would be like, oh, he's eighty.

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Speaker 2: He's crumbling. That's that generation though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's smoking his cigar to day for fifty

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years will get you.

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Speaker 2: My dad didn't even smoke, still had to get a

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lung removed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was. His job was to inhale chemicals for.

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Speaker 2: A little yeah, breathing in all the cams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So really, our dad's aged the same way.

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Speaker 2: While he dumped in the floor ride to our water, Yeah,

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to numb our brains.

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Speaker 1: He kept our teeth strong. But at what cost?

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Speaker 2: At what costs? Today's a fun episode though, something we're

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both familiar with. In fact, I did this episode because

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I just want to hear you do the voice?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, which one? There's only like four?

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Speaker 2: I know. It was actually a planned sketch for audio

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on Patreon that we never got to. Okay, we're talking,

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of course, about three hundred, so we're talking thromopyly today.

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Speaker 1: The audio sketch is so fucked I have it like written,

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like a lot of it written, and we just never

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did it. But uh, it's essentially three hundred the early

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years and it's just three hundred. But they're boys, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Pretty Yeah, it's exactly what you think it is. Yeah yeah,

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let me really just hammering home the Greek stereotype.

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Speaker 1: It's not a stereotype if it's completely all the time,

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the Greek fact that people don't want to acknowledge leonitis.

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I gotta funck now. I gotta get into the voice

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because it's the narrator's voice, the guy with the eye patch,

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and he's like young Leonidas walked through the Nate.

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Speaker 2: So going back, I haven't watched it in probably twenty

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years at this point. Did you watch it for this

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give or take? No, Okay, but from what I remember, dude,

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Zack Snyder kind of nailed it.

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Speaker 1: It's a sweet movie.

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Speaker 2: And actually it's not terribly off.

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Speaker 1: It's not as off as you. Well, first off is

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he didn't it's based on a comic.

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Speaker 2: I know he didn't write it, and I know it's

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based off of comic, but they kind of stuck to

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the story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they had.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get too crazy. I mean there was no humpback. Yeah,

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there was no fucking freak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, there's no freak.

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Speaker 1: There's no no fucking freak. Yeah yeah, yeah, there's that

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guy wasn't there, but they did find I think they were.

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Speaker 2: There is a guy that turns on him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and shows them the alternate route, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It just wasn't a baby left to die or no,

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a baby that they wouldn't kill.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't some you know, hunchback of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Dude, right right, right, right right, which.

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Speaker 2: Quasi Moto wasn't leading them.

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Speaker 1: I just love one of my ultimate back guy one

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of my favorite scenes in that and I actually like

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memed this at some point and no one got it.

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I'm not a good memur. But my favorite scene is

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when he's in the tent like submitting himself to and

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there's just like like a harem in there, and then

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also a goat man. Yeah, there's a man with a

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goat's head and he's just like it's an upsetting scene.

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Speaker 2: Xerxes wasn't that flamboyant either.

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Speaker 1: No, I've said this before on the show, but my

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favorite review of it.

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Speaker 2: They really made the Persian super gay.

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Speaker 1: My favorite review of it was it came out when

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I was in college. So I was in Saint Louis

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over the summer and there's an alt at weekly publication

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in Saint Louis called the Riverfront Times. Here it's the

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Austin Chronicle, and the Riverfront Times reviewed it, and you

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know it's extremely liberal under like all weekly.

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Speaker 2: Oh it came out exactly twenty years ago, two thousand

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and six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the review was like, it's basically three hundred

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like jacked macho men slaughtering a gay Pride parade.

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Speaker 2: It's totally accurate. No Notes nailed it.

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Speaker 1: Early.

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Speaker 2: Gerard Butler too.

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Speaker 1: He kind of didn't have much of a career after that.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? That kind of launched the

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Butler era.

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Speaker 1: The Butlerry and Jihad if you will, mm hmm yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like White House Down. I think he's in he look

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he but he.

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Speaker 1: Just kept doing a bunch of B movies. I think

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he was on the cusp of being like an A

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list actor. It was weird because him there was Hit

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and another guy from that era, and the other guy

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from the era I think is like an amazing actor,

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and he just kind of disappeared and started doing B movies.

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Fucking Clive Owen, Like I want more Clive Owen in

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my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh, everyone needs more Clyde Owen. But he had law

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Abiden Citizen that was a big hit in two thousand

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and nine. Yeah, I guess I've remember Gerard had a

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little bit more of a run than he did. Not

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a ton here did the voice for how to Turn

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Your Dragon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well he's printing money off that.

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Speaker 2: I assume London has fallen.

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Speaker 1: Sequel to White House or Olympus has followed.

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Speaker 2: The Bounty Hunter Gamer who could forget Gamer. I was

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gonna say, you dine in the game, you dine in

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real life.

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Speaker 1: He is in the and it's like he's controlled by players,

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and I think Michael C. Hall, the dexter is Threat,

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is the player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. His filmography is kind of ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of B movies.

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Speaker 2: It's not good. It's I thought it would be better.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just taking paychecks, which respect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to he was yoked in that movie though.

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Three Hunter.

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Speaker 1: He was yoked in that movie and he had he

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has one of my favorite lines in it, which is

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ironic based on actual history. One thing Zack Snyder and

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he's like talking about the Athenians not surrendering to the Persians,

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and he's like, if those philosophers and boy lovers.

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, get me throwing stunts from a

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glass house.

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Speaker 1: From the glassiest of glasshouses, the glass cathedral.

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Speaker 2: So the city states of Athens and a Retrea had

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aided the unsuccessful Ionian revolt against the Persian empire in

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four ninety nine and four ninety four BC, and Darius

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was like, I gotta get revenge for those involved. Yeah,

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your boy, Darius.

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Speaker 1: The usurper, the horse finger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So for those unfamiliar, we've covered this on the patreon.

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But Darius got the throne because in ancient Persia they

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did this weird thing with horses where they first person

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who had their horse nee got the throne.

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Speaker 1: It's like you had some sort of command of nature

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or something. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: So he stuck like his entire forum, yeah, like elbows

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deep into a.

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Speaker 1: Mare, into a horse's vagina.

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Speaker 2: Into a female horse, into her badge, got the juices

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all over them, uh, and then got on his horse.

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They all did their kind of like I guess walk

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with the horses. Just stuck his arm up to the

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horse's nose and got the nay, then got the throne.

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Speaker 1: What he would do anything for power, and I respect

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his level of commitment to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And this is after there was already like a fake

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guy on the throne that they had to overthrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I think it was like Smurtis.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I just know he was.

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Speaker 2: Pretending to be another guy who died.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the only three Persian kings I know are the

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three big ones, right, Cyrus, Darius, and Xerxes.

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Speaker 2: And obviously Exerxes is Darius's kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He saw an opportunity though, to expand the young umpire.

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In a fractured world of ancient.

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Speaker 1: Greece, constantly quabbling.

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Speaker 2: Darius sent emissaries to all Greek city states in four

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ninety one BC, asking for a gift of earth and

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water as tokens of their submission. I don't even know

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what that qualifies.

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Speaker 1: As earth and water. He just sent back a fucking

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jar a dirt from your homeland and some water from

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your homeland, and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: That's such a beat him for the Endies to car.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whole water carry back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully it's a small amountain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a cup, you know what I mean? Like,

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you don't need a barrel of river water from Athens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get the giant stick over your back, right,

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just fill the two water sacks on each side, right,

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essentially just doing farmers carries all the way, or like

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, let's be honest. The emissaries not doing

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the carrying, all right, it's the twenty slaves he brought

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with him, or dealing with the earth and water.

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Speaker 2: Good point.

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Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, I load it up. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: In Athens, the ambassadors were put on trial and then

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executed by throwing them into a pit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, which is what they show in nine.

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Speaker 2: In Sparta, they were not given a trial. Yeah, simply

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thrown down a well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, WHI should they show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he does the kick? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do Leonidas ways, I can only do

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the news Sparta. Yeah that's better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry for blowing out your ears. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Fine, Leonidis conceded to that.

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Speaker 2: You don't have the beard to do Leonidas. Obviously you

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do have the bod.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: People don't know this. He looks like a sack of milk.

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But under there, Rob's jacked.

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Speaker 1: Bang. I mean I do have dad strength, but I'm

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not jacked.

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Speaker 2: You got Dad's strength, Dad Dick. For each kid, it

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adds an inch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, will you choose girth or length? And I went,

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you always go girth, I went, I went to girth

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on length.

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Speaker 2: It's just a hockey puck. Now, it's a stack of

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hockey pucks. It's two hockey bucks. However, in order to

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appease the Persian king somewhat, the two Spartans were voluntarily

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sent to SUSA for execution and atonement for the death

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of the Persian heralds. Oh my god, imagine me and

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those guys. How do you get chosen?

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Speaker 1: Is it like real dudes or they just grab their

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own slaves and be like, here, put this helmet on

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your fuck.

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Speaker 2: It was like two dudes nobody likes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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certainly they're not sending their best to be sacrificed. Now,

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it's like this is all right, the B team, Yeah,

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and two of them, yeah, practice squad guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to make the cut. The three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Darius then launched an amphibious expeditionary force. In four ninety

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he received the submission of the Cyclotic Islands. It then

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besieged and destroyed Eritrea, and finally it moved to attack Athens,

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landing at the Bay of Marathon, where it was met

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by a heavily outnumbered Athenian army.

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Speaker 1: But Marathon like three hundred. They had a serious geographic advantage, yep,

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and it. It was a geographic advantage, both just in general,

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but also for the way their army worked, in particular

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the hop lights, the Faalanx.

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Speaker 2: That's also where the guy that had like a Paul

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Revere moment. Yeah, where he ran the twenty six point two.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six point two all the way to go delivery

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and then drop dead and.

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Speaker 2: Meat dropped dead in sandals. It's tough.

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Speaker 1: I think they had running sandals at the time.

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Speaker 2: I can't run. I can't walk twenty six miles and sandals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not well, not in flip flops. Maybe in like

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some berks tied tight to your feet.

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Speaker 2: It's still tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gets sweaty, get its slippery.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't get enough credit. Everybody that runs a marathon should

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have to do it in least the you know j

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the berks. Yeah, I agree, you aren't. You were

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not doing a marathon correctly. If you are.

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Speaker 2: Still in valor, you can't be throwing that sticker on

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unless you're running in flip flops.

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Speaker 1: No, no time, no marathon time wrecker or whatever. Strike

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it from the record is valid. If it wasn't in sandals,

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there has to.

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Speaker 2: Be somewhere where they do it authentically, probably in grease.

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Speaker 1: There are these I watched a not a documentary. I

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think I read a nat GEO article on there're these

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Mexican guys who are like basically like full Miyan and

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they run like crazy, barefoot across whatever their terrain is.

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It's not jungle. I think it's drier, but they they're

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like barefoot runners and they do it constantly, and they're

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fucking good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the terrain where they fight the Persians

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at Thermopylae, it's gross.

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Speaker 1: Just craigly right, it's just cracked soil. Yeah. They also

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only briefly show.

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Speaker 2: A fool of thorns everywhere, just bush with thorn.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's like maybe like maybe the weather's bad

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or it's humid, because they're properly literally translates to hot gates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the British also fought the Nazis there.

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Speaker 1: Oh really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did they lose World War two?

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Speaker 1: Did they also lose?

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Speaker 2: I never actually looked up there.

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Speaker 1: I think I like to think in that battle the

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Spartans popped out like the Lord of the Rings ghosts.

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Speaker 2: I also can't imagine the Brits sent their their best

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to defend Greece.

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Speaker 1: No, Greece was the beat. That's where Roll Dall fought.

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If you recall when role Dahl was, he was in

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the Air Force or whatever. But when he was fighting

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in the Battle of Athens, his unit, like he was,

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his unit was horribly outnumbered in the sky like England was.

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It was like a they sent something, but they were like,

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obviously we gotta lock it all down for the home island.

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Like here's a little bit grease like, but yeah, you're

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not getting a lot.

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Speaker 2: No, but you're right, there's probably ghost of Leonidas and

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his men. Yeah, just gotta like pray to them, call

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to them. They just start rising from the ground.

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Speaker 1: They would yeah, yeah, they would be happy to kill again.

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Speaker 2: They miss killing, although honestly they probably be on the

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Nazi side.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain they wouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Spartans, we've talked about this incredibly dickish.

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Speaker 1: They suck. It's an overrated thanks to three hundred partially

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civilization and my favorite thing, this lose a lot too.

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They lose a lot. That's what people don't realize when

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people are like, yeah, it's just a macho like the

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Spartan military culture. You gotta be hardcore like the Spartans, Dude.

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The Spartans routinely got beaten by a lot of different people,

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including my favorite Indians, the Athenians, who were the philosophers

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and boylovers.

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Speaker 2: Just beat the shit Sparta left and right.

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Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, you need a The best countries

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aren't hardcore militaristic countries. They're diverse in culture in terms

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of like really good at economy, really good at arts,

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really good at military, all of these things. They have

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more than one strength. They don't just overvalue it all

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in one place. All of those countries like Nazi Germany

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fucking lose or Japan fucking lose, the Aztecs fucking lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure if like Dagistan had an army, they'd lose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The most alpha culture there is. Yeah, although you know,

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ground and pound doesn't really work in war. They can't

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just take somebody down.

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Speaker 1: No, especially if that person's in an f thirty five

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five thousand feet above you.

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Speaker 2: Now, the Athenians won a remarkable victory which resulted in

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the withdrawal of the Persian army to Asia. Darius began

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raising a huge new army to strike back in four

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to eighty six PC, but his Egyptian province revolted and

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definitely postponed any Greek expedition. Darius died while preparing the

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march on Egypt, and the throne of Persia passed on

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to Xerxes the First.

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Speaker 1: Wait, actually, I'm says earlier. There's only three Persian kings.

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I know, but I think it's four because there's two Dariuses.

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I think because Alexander the Great kills Adarius.

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Speaker 2: Yeah later down the line, yeah, yeah, yeah, well not

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that much later, because around this time is when Alexander's fathers.

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Speaker 1: And Philip Macedon. Yeah yeah, and he, by the way mine,

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he like.

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Speaker 2: Gives the Greeks of heads up that the Persians are

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on the way.

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Speaker 1: Oh, good for him. He is my favorite ponage of

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the Spartans of all time, which is he's like, if

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I if I come to your country, I'm going to

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destroy it. Paraphrasing the quote, He's like, if I come

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to your country, I'm gonna destroy it. I'm gonna destroy you.

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And the Spartans just sent back.

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Speaker 2: If and then they have a moment like that here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then Philip is like, okay, bet yeah, and

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then does it does exactly what he said he was

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gonna do. Philip will get.

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Speaker 2: A lot more love if Alexander didn't accomplish as much

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as he did.

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Speaker 1: Philip handed Philip handed Alexander the keys to the program,

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you know what I mean, Like that, Alexander was winning

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in college football terms. Alexander was winning with Phillips.

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Speaker 2: Guys, It's like Steve Kerr being handed Mark Jackson's team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah literally, yeah, yeah. Now, granted Kerr took them to

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heights that Mark Jackson could couldn't and I think Alexander

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did as well. But in the words of Barack Obama,

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you don't build up.

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Speaker 2: Alexander got Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Alexander was Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: You're right, he was joining the super team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Xerxes crushed the Egyptian revolt and quickly restarted preparations for

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the invasion of Greece. This was to be a full

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scale invasion supported by long term planning, stockpilon and conscription.

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According to our boy Herodotus, xerxes army was so large that,

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upon arriving at the banks of the Ichidorius river. I

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think I'm saying that right. I don't know who could.

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Who could say his soldiers proceeded to drink it dry? Well,

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we know Heratus is one four hyperbole and exaggerating he.

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Speaker 1: Is, but he also keeps being proven right on some

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because he says shit like this, which is obviously not true.

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But then he'll also say other shit that sounds outlandish,

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and you know, people will just lump it in with

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that because he says a lot of crazy shit. But

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there was one thing the other day that they found

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out was true. I think he said it was a

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Scythians or Scythians whatever he said that. They like it

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was like sword sheets or something made out of human skin.

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And that was another one. They were like, all right,

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herad it is whatever they flayed humans, Yeah, and made

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like the machines or something out of skin. Anyway, a

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recent archaeological find found Scythian human skin sheets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, fuck more like Slician. Fuck. He got

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one right, He got a couple of things right. He

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was the Olex Jones of his time.

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Speaker 1: That was essentially what they're saying, like it was just

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like propaganda to be like Yeah, those fucking monsters up

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north and.

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Speaker 2: They're talking about like the Babylonian Gates. You'd never stepped

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foot there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he got close to it.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, man, at that point in history,

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at that point in history, it's like a five month journey.

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Just talk to someone who's been there. That's what he did,

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and he wrote it down and that's what counts.

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Speaker 2: There's a game of whisper down the lane for most

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of history with Rhodis. Is that what you call it?

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Whisper down the lane.

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Speaker 1: And call it telephone?

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Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, same game. I just didn't know if

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that was like a different regional thing in north. In

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the northeast we call it whisper down the lane.

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Speaker 2: We have more lanes.

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Speaker 1: It's a very alley heavy part of the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And for eighty one bc X sent embissaries around

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Greece requesting earth and water, but very deliberately left out

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Athens and Sparta because he just was like he's like, no,

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we're coming for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh there's no, there's no quarter for you. Like

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I'm not making a deal with.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna crush you. This actually caused a divided Greece

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to come together and rally around the two cities reverse effect.

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Then Xerxes probably wanted yeah. Congress met at Corinth in

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the late fall of for eighty one BC, and a

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confederate alliance of Greek city states was formed. The Persian

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army seems to have made slow progress through Thrace and Macedon.

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News of the imminent Persian approach eventually reached Greece in

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August of four to eighty BC. At this time of year,

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the Spartans, de facto military leaders of the alliance, were

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celebrating the Festival of Carnea. During the Carnea military activity

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was forbidden by Spartan law. The Spartans had arrived too

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late at the Battle of Marathon because of this requirement.

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It was also the time of the Olympic Games and

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therefore the Olympic Truce, and thus it would have been

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doubly sacrilegious for the whole Spartan army to march to war.

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Seems dumb, I think. So you're just kind of putting

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restraints on what you guys can do.

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Speaker 1: And presumably it's enough of a like sort of regional

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globalism that the persons are well aware of that, and.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, let's attack when they can't do anyth Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like it seems like the fact that they've done

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this twice now is on purpose.

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Speaker 2: M It's like attacking during yam Kapor or Ramadan, the

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yam Kapor War, yam Kapor war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, attack during Ramandon does seem smart, Like, hey, they

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can't eat for a month.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we just do that?

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Speaker 1: No, Ramanon was over when Iran. Oh maybe when we

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bombed the first time the new program that might have

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been during Ramanon?

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Speaker 2: Are you sure?

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Speaker 1: But this one was. I think Ramadan was over. I

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was pretty I'm pretty sure it was over.

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Speaker 2: It was February seventeenth to March nineteenth, so it's not over.

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Speaker 1: Oh then, yes we did ram Its.

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Speaker 2: Like, pretty sure Ramadan's going on right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, that makes sense because I actually, uh,

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there's some uh college basketball player I can't remember who

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who is not he's fasting, yeah, and he's good. I

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think he's on Michigan or something.

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Speaker 2: I know this because most UFC fighters that are Muslim

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don't fight during this time. Yeah, for obvious reason.

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Speaker 1: Not, I'd not an ideal time to do it. It's

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all the Dagistanis are.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're out.

470
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Speaker 1: They're out during this time.

471
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Speaker 2: Kind of an easy way to cut way, right, you'd think,

472
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granted you're eating at like one o'clock, two o'clock in

473
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the morning.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird because you can eat.

475
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Speaker 2: It's just as soon as the sun goes down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

476
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it's from my understanding, that's a nightmare.

477
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Speaker 1: Of all the reasons to not do that. Religion number

478
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one is a month of horrible eating habits and like

479
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like just just be like, I can't do this.

480
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Speaker 2: A board of five Spartan leaders to the urgency was

481
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enough to justify an advanced expedition force to block the

482
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pass under one of its kings, Leonidis, the first Leonidis

483
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took with him three hundred men of the royal bodyguard.

484
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Speaker 1: Leonidas left spat. Spat. That's the that's the key word

485
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in the voice. Spat. Yeah, that's the So for every

486
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I don't know how other people who I'm not like

487
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,960
an impressionist, impressionist, but I can do a couple of voices.

488
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,160
And when I do any voice, there are like totem

489
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,119
words that center you back to because the more you

490
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,680
stray away from it, the worse it gets, so you

491
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gotta go like spat.

492
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately for my boss and accent, it is the word

493
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your mom doesn't want us to say. And it's Jeremy Renner,

494
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Yeah for fuck.

495
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Speaker 1: Yo, fac ya, for Jimmy Stewart, Mary Murray, no, hold

496
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,119
on a minute now, I'm marry.

497
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Speaker 2: I guess I can change it the wicked hot coal.

498
00:24:58,279 --> 00:24:59,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that works too.

499
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

500
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Speaker 1: And then for Helen Slaggerman is.

501
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:13,039
Speaker 2: No, it's always what's your Irish? I mean you do it?

502
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,200
I heard you hit. Sometimes you don't Irish as I.

503
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Speaker 1: Say the Hail Mary, Hail Mary, for Christ, the Lord

504
00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,160
is with you, blessed art album, swimming, blessed the fruit

505
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,880
to die, womb, Jesus, Holy Mary, motterate God to pray

506
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,079
for us, Pray for us sinners, not at the hour

507
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,720
of our death. That yeah, I could always do the Connor,

508
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:33,119
but Hail Mary is it just has like all the

509
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:33,680
beats you need.

510
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: It does and you know it too well. I did

511
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front and back every time he went to confession.

512
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Speaker 1: I would sometimes have to stop myself from doing it

513
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in the Irish.

514
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: This expedition was to try to gather as many Greek

515
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,839
soldiers along the way as possible, and to await the

516
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,039
arrival of the main Spartan army when you know the

517
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festival is over. The Oracle of Delphi delivered INFI Delphie.

518
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Speaker 1: I think it's Delphi.

519
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 2: Delphi is a sorority. I'm positive Delfie. I've played, and

520
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,559
you can, you know, chew us out in the comments

521
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,759
if you want. I'm pretty sure when I was playing

522
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,920
an Assassin's Creed it was Delfi. Okay, I'm gonna stick

523
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,079
to it.

524
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: I'll defer to Assassin's Creed.

525
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: When I was playing Odyssey, I heard the word Delfi.

526
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I think in three hundred is Delphi the oracle

527
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,440
del fae wretched creatures?

528
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean I can check it in real time.

529
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: I suppose enslaving women.

530
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:41,079
Speaker 2: Let's let's just do it. I'm want to blame the

531
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:44,480
game though, if it's Delphi, because it should be Delphi.

532
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,559
All right, well, you know, you get a win.

533
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:54,559
Speaker 1: I do the kid normally, I don't. At this point,

534
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:55,720
I'm just like whatever I'm.

535
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: Saying, Google's wrong too, okay, American pronunciation. It should should

536
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,880
be Delphi, all right.

537
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,319
Speaker 1: You're going like alpha Phi.

538
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,599
Speaker 2: Alpha fi, yeah, rush alpha Fi.

539
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

540
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: Delivered a prophetic message to the Spartans for telling the

541
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,480
impending conflict. This is a translation obviously. Yeah, I.

542
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: Love that, like most of the Greeks who are bad

543
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,440
in that movie are like freaks, and all of the

544
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,240
Persians are freaks.

545
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: And then the good guys are hot hot.

546
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the Spartan side in three hundred is

547
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,559
much gayer than the Persian.

548
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,559
Speaker 2: Side, right, They don't actually show what the Spartans are

549
00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,240
doing to build up that team work.

550
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,599
Speaker 1: No, no, that's what that's what three hundred the Early

551
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,160
Years is for.

552
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: You fight harder for a lover, that is.

553
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,759
Speaker 1: Well, that was I think it was Thrace, the Thracian

554
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:57,599
or no, Thebian Thebian band was essentially like a super unit.

555
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,759
Speaker 2: If that's not true, the Thebians are catching straight.

556
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,319
Speaker 1: Right the I think it's the thieves Thebian band. Uh, yeah,

557
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,119
it was. It was like a special forces unit of

558
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,359
like dudes, who it was all They were all banging

559
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,440
each other like it was pairs of lovers essentially, so

560
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:18,240
you would fight harder for you know, you want to

561
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,680
lose your your your boy.

562
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: This is what the Oracle of Delphie said. Okay, Delphi

563
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,079
if you want to be correct, we're sticking whatever, sticking

564
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:29,640
with Delphie.

565
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm on board with Delphi.

566
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna just keep digging this trench. Hear your fate,

567
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,079
O dwellers in Sparta of the wide spaces, Either you're famed,

568
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,559
great town must be sacked by Persia's sons, or if

569
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:49,599
that be not, the whole land of last Damien shall

570
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,960
mourn the death of a king of the House of Hercules,

571
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,559
for not the strength of lions or of bulls shall

572
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hold him strength against strength, for he has the power

573
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,480
of Zeus, and will not be checked to one of

574
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:09,160
these two. He has consumed. Leonidas, in the line with

575
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,599
the prophecy, was convinced he was going to certain death. Yeah,

576
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,559
he just accepted it. He's like, all right, hold the line.

577
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Well, if you werecalling the movie, they tell him no. Essentially,

578
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,920
he's like he's like, give me my bed, like let

579
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
me fight in the oracle. Not the oracles. But like

580
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,480
the guys who oversee the hot chick who does the prophecy,

581
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,759
they're all they're the freaks because they got paid off

582
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:35,319
by the Persians, and they're like, Leonidas, you will not

583
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,000
march within Annie. They're all for all the bad Greeks

584
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:44,559
except for the dude from the wire who who rapes

585
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Leonidas's wife, Lena Hetty, Oh boy a lot. Yeah, he's

586
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,160
the only good looking one. The rest of them like

587
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,440
physically disgusting.

588
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: But they all surround the oracle holes were hot.

589
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: The oracles themselves, it's like a chick underwater, like floating.

590
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,519
Speaker 2: And then it's just a bunch of monsters, monsters up

591
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:10,200
on a hill.

592
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Like Oracle del Fay, freakish men bound to the mountain.

593
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:22,039
Speaker 2: I guess who are they? Technically just the security what

594
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:23,880
the oracles? No, I know what the oracles?

595
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,079
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah around like just freak priests who I

596
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,079
probably get pretty handsy with. The girls who were trapped

597
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:33,839
in their mountain fucking temple that they don't leave.

598
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Well, they're probably mermaids right underwater.

599
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Well no, it was shot underwater to make it seem

600
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:39,920
she wasn't. Actually like in the.

601
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Speaker 2: Movies, I know, oracles were just women. Yeah they were there,

602
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,480
you know, prophecy tellers, but they had the fortune tellers, they.

603
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Had the like fucking gullam handlers.

604
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's really good.

605
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Go back to your city.

606
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,519
Speaker 2: So Leonidas, knowing probably gonna die, only selected Spartans with

607
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,839
living sons to continue the family name. Okay. Spartan force

608
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,079
was reinforced en route to Thermopylae by contingents from various

609
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,559
cities and numbered more than seven thousand by the time

610
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,359
it arrived to the pass. So you know, seven thousand

611
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,000
doesn't have the same ring as three hundred.

612
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven thousand, I don't know, ye, I.

613
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,759
Speaker 2: Mean they're incredibly outnumbered, but there was just three hundred.

614
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:34,079
Speaker 1: Dudes, comically outnumbered. It's like the biggest army in Persian history.

615
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,640
It's probably not the size Herodotus said it was.

616
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Set like three mil.

617
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well wasn't closed. Three million was like I think

618
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,359
the US army in World War Two at its peak

619
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,400
was like four to five million.

620
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: I think it was a couple hundred thousand, but it

621
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,559
was not. Yeah, Herotus was feeling himself on that number.

622
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,720
I think he stopped counting.

623
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,559
Speaker 1: There weren't three million people available. No, Like, there were

624
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,400
obviously three million people around, but like not not for

625
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
one arm fighting age males. Yeah.

626
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Leonis chose to camp at and defend the Middle Gate,

627
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:15,319
the narrowest part of the passive Thermopylae, where the Phocians

628
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,079
had built a defensive wall sometime before. I think I'm

629
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:20,880
saying that Focian.

630
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not Phoenician, I guess, so fuck it.

631
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,960
Eight million was the US army size in World War Two,

632
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,599
So yeah, no, he did not put together three million dudes.

633
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,599
Speaker 2: What's the US military number for World War three?

634
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Well, right now, I think our standing army is like

635
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,720
two million. Okay, obviously we would like quadruple that.

636
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:42,599
Speaker 2: How many drones we got at.

637
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Least, I hope a lot, but we don't do. I

638
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,119
don't think we do like suicide drones. So, like drone

639
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,920
numbers are like kind of a weird gauge because I

640
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,559
think the Chinese and the Iranians have like a shit

641
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,519
ton of them, but they're one time, one time used,

642
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,119
you know what I mean. Kamakazi, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

643
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:03,880
Like our drones shoot missiles and shit, because.

644
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: We're like, we spend a pretty penny on these. We're

645
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,400
not going to just crash over right. And by the way,

646
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,680
although that keeps lock key Martin, what is a just

647
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,119
from RN?

648
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: What is what is a suicide drone but a missile? Yeah,

649
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,200
I'm sure there's a difference, but there isn't like practically

650
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,480
there's not in use, probably, but like at the end

651
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,839
of the day, it's just a shitty missile.

652
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: Finally, in mid August, the Persian army was sighted across

653
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:35,359
the Malayan golf approaching Thermopoli. Xerxes sent a Persian emissary

654
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,240
to negotiate with Leonidas. The Greeks were offered their freedom,

655
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,759
the title Friends of the Persian People, and the opportunity

656
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:48,480
to resettle a land better than what they possessed. Xerx's

657
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:49,839
pretty fair guy.

658
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,359
Speaker 1: He just wants to land, so he just wants the

659
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,519
tax money, the truly. And the thing about the Persians

660
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,319
that people don't remember from that movie because they make

661
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,720
it seem like the exact opposite, is that the Persians

662
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,839
are like very much like, yeah, you do you We

663
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,880
just want to collect your taxes and use you if

664
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,880
we fight in the other wars.

665
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. From when I remember, the Persian Empire did not

666
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,840
give a fuck about religion. They didn't like put their

667
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,039
beliefs on you. You're like, you can do whatever you want,

668
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,159
just you know, and every month, every six months, every year,

669
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,800
you just gotta patrie.

670
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: Pay, I mean literally. Cyrus is celebrated in the Old

671
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Testament for being a liberator who allows the Jews to

672
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,199
like practice their religion again after the Babylonians, you know,

673
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,199
crushed them or whatever. So like, it's not quite what

674
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,960
you think, not quite what Alexander and uh and the

675
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Spartans portray it as.

676
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,039
Speaker 2: When are we the baddies refuse the terms. The ambassador

677
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,559
carried a written message by Xerxes asking him to hand

678
00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:01,320
over your arms. Leonidas's famous response to the Persians was,

679
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,800
and I'm sure a lot of Americans would love to

680
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,960
have this flag in there their back. We should actually

681
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,719
have it, yeah, for the Leonidis flag on the back.

682
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:15,519
Come and take them. I mean, we'll just have a spear.

683
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,119
Speaker 1: My assumption is because people were very well read in

684
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,679
the nineteenth century and stuff like that. My assumption is

685
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,480
Texases come and take it. Is from that. Yeah, like

686
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:29,840
if I had to guess, because whoever said it was

687
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,320
probably some guy who went to college and read the classics.

688
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,679
Speaker 2: And I mean it's a hard line. It's a hard

689
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,679
hard lines better than if if yeah, come and take them.

690
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,159
Speaker 1: I mean that's not even Leonidas's hardest line of Thermopylae.

691
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,039
Speaker 2: Though, what's his hardest line?

692
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: When Xerxes and I'll be doing film Xerxes here or

693
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,599
actually I don't think Xerxes says it. I think it's

694
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:00,440
someone else says it. But it's like, our arrow are

695
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,840
so numerous, they'll block out the sun and Leonidas goes

696
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,000
then we'll fight in the shade.

697
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: So that's not totally accurate of what happens, but yeah,

698
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,440
it is like along the lines. Okay, so they do

699
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get the truth of the story for the most part

700
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and do a good job. What do he goes to

701
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Zack Snyder?

702
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Speaker 1: I like Zack Snyder like Watchman's a sweet movie.

703
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:23,559
Speaker 2: I don't know, Watchman is a sweet movie.

704
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Speaker 1: I don't know why people were like shitting on it

705
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,840
at the time.

706
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Speaker 2: I think when he turned to the DC comics is

707
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really when he Watchman excluded is when he really started

708
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to get ship on.

709
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those movies are bad.

710
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,159
Speaker 2: The Batman movies for Superman, they're bad. I've never even

711
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:42,480
the Superman movies are bad.

712
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: Never ever seen a worse casting choice than Jesse Eisenberg.

713
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,440
Is Lex Luthor.

714
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,199
Speaker 2: Just so super neurotic, just like.

715
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, mincing, little neurotic or what are.

716
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717
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Speaker 1: Have gottam that's those Man of Steel, like it's just

718
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on watchable ha ha. He's like, like Superman will be like,

719
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,440
why don't I kill you right now?

720
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Speaker 2: You're just doing a Mickey Mouse.

721
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:14,639
Speaker 1: Here's why it fucking Oh my god, it's it's bad,

722
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but I do I still like to watch it because

723
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,039
it's so bad it's fun.

724
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Speaker 2: Xerox's delayed for four days waiting for Greeks to disperse

725
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,920
before sending troops to attack. He's just thinking, all right,

726
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,840
if I wait a couple of days, maybe some of

727
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,599
these Greeks will see our numbers and just bail on Leonidas.

728
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,599
It'll be a smaller army. He will have to take

729
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,280
over and make the job easier. But little did he

730
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,360
know the Spartans and the Greeks are just kind of dicks.

731
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: They're kind of dicks. Again, I have to ask a

732
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,199
little bit. Are we the baddies?

733
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: Are we the Western society? Is that what you're saying?

734
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,599
Speaker 1: No? But in this instance, no, overall, no. But the

735
00:37:56,679 --> 00:38:00,960
Persians were doing a lot of things that were nicer

736
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,320
than the West. This isn't like, this isn't like the

737
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:07,320
like Caliphates conquering you know, half the world in the

738
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,320
seven hundreds, ad like where.

739
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,079
Speaker 2: They were like by the sword die.

740
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the Persians were just like we won't get paid,

741
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:18,559
pay us and we'll let you do whatever you.

742
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Want, just trying to build the full empire as.

743
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: Far as conquerors go, Like, look, it's still unethical and

744
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,719
shitty to to, you know, go conquer people who.

745
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: Are still under somebody's fucking wing.

746
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,039
Speaker 1: Independently, certainly, but as far as conquerors go, this iteration

747
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:36,199
of the Persians was pretty chill.

748
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,519
Speaker 2: The number of troops which Xerxes mustard for the second

749
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:43,880
invasion of Greece generally range from one hundred and twenty

750
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
thousand to three hundred thousand.

751
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Which is still a monstrous army.

752
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,679
Speaker 2: Oh, it's huge for the day, but again Herodotus was

753
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,440
like three mil.

754
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Speaker 1: It's like okay, right, yeah, to give you some perspective

755
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:59,440
on that too, I think Napoleon's army at Waterloo was

756
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,920
like a buck to twenty something like that. Yeah, and yeah,

757
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,880
like it's just Napoleon took that l he did, but

758
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,840
his armies were always that big, like between one and

759
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,840
two hundred thousand, well a lot of sometimes less than

760
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,960
a hundred dozen, but at their largest it was like

761
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:18,519
I think he maybe invaded Russia with like two hundred What.

762
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,519
Speaker 2: Did Wellington roll out?

763
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,159
Speaker 1: He had less? Much less, not much less, but they

764
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,440
had let well so the ally the Seventh Coalition I

765
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think it was, I think combined had more between the

766
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,199
Prussians and the British, but individually Napoleon had more than

767
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either army.

768
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Speaker 2: And his reward for that win is to be named

769
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,079
a steak that's prepared in like the seventh or eighth

770
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,199
best fashion of beef Wellington. Yeah, what's the last time

771
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,960
he ate a beef Wellen?

772
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:46,559
Speaker 1: I don't know.

773
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:48,559
Speaker 2: Have you ever eaten about beef phone?

774
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm certain I have.

775
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,159
Speaker 2: It's just like I'd rather have steak.

776
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Why I don't want my steak wrapped in a

777
00:39:55,639 --> 00:40:00,480
carb No, Like I don't, I just want.

778
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: I don't want like a steak kolachi.

779
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: It's what it is, pretty much. Yeah. And then there's

780
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,280
just like caramelized mince mushrooms in there. So it's such

781
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,000
a British thing.

782
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: They ruined all the food.

783
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: It's just like a bizarre Thank.

784
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: God we got our independence.

785
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,119
Speaker 1: Just cook the steak.

786
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,039
Speaker 2: Imagine how bad food would be if we were still

787
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:17,920
under British rule.

788
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: Oh, horrific. Yeah, I mean the French no barbecue, it

789
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,719
would have been outlawed.

790
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like this meat's too tasty?

791
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,559
Speaker 1: Are you not a fan from the one form of

792
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:34,840
barbecue that came from sort of English rule, which one

793
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,760
Carolina style.

794
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,559
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's like mustard based.

795
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: I like me a good mustard barbecue sauce. They do

796
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,840
pork well, Yeah, pulled pork, that's it. That's what I

797
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,280
miss here with Texas barbecue. Nobody does pulled pork.

798
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,079
Speaker 2: It's like the easiest barbecue to do.

799
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: I love pulled pork.

800
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: Pull pork is you can do it yourself, I know,

801
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,000
but I love it.

802
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: I want to eat it.

803
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: I kind of don't want to give Carolina any credit

804
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,159
for perfecting pulled pork.

805
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:03,559
Speaker 1: We y smoke it and rip it apart.

806
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard to do. There's not a whole

807
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,840
lot of like artistry.

808
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: To it, unlike a brisket or something.

809
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

810
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

811
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: From a strategic point of view, by defending Thermopyla, the

812
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,960
Greeks were making the best possible use of their forces.

813
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,840
A hop light phalanx could block the narrow pass with

814
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these with no risk of being outflanked by cavalry.

815
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Speaker 1: Did. Did the Hoplights do what the Romans did with

816
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,880
the sort of like hockey.

817
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Shift, stab, drop back stab, Yeah.

818
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: Because the Romans would do like essentially, you know, the

819
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,239
front line would fight for like a couple minutes, whistle blows,

820
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,840
next line moves up, hockey.

821
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: Shifts, hockey shifts. The way to do it thirty seconds. Yeah,

822
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,800
then you get you cut your breath, get.

823
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Back out there, you get you go all the way

824
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,599
to the back, you get like a ten minute break, sweet,

825
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,679
and then you get to come up again. Yeah, it's awesome.

826
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: For the Persians, the problem was supplying such a large army,

827
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,239
and that meant they could not remain in the same

828
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,920
place for very long. They had to either retreat or advance,

829
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,679
and advance and required forcing through the pass. The major

830
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
weak point for the Greeks was the mountain track, which

831
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,599
led across the highland parallel to Thermopylae. That could allow

832
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their position to be outflanked.

833
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Speaker 1: It's weird to me they didn't have better logistics because

834
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:26,440
it was a very well run empire, Like they had

835
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,320
like a male system and like it was a good

836
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,400
bureaucratic empire. You would think they would be able to

837
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:33,719
have the supply lines.

838
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're stuck in this just awful land.

839
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, Greece isn't good land. I feel like like for

840
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,119
like natural resources, like yeah they make wine and olive

841
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,519
oil and shit O, but like what do you you know?

842
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,239
How much stuff do they have?

843
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,079
Speaker 2: They have really good land, then they have really bad lane.

844
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of it's like mountainous dog shit. Real quick.

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Speaker 2: This path could be traversed by Persian infantry, many of

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whom were versed in mountain warfare. Leonidis was made aware

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of the path by local people, and he positioned a

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The terrain of the battlefield is nothing that zerk season

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his forces were accustomed to, even though they had mountain

930
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're from fucking Iran.

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Speaker 2: The Persians were not prepared for the real nature of

933
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:15,119
the country they had invaded. The pure ruggedness of the

934
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:18,159
area is caused by torrential downpours for four months of

935
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:22,000
the year, combined with an intense summer season of scorching

936
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:24,079
heat that cracks the ground.

937
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:25,039
Speaker 1: The hot Gates.

938
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: Vegetation. Vegetation is scarce and consists of low, thorny shrubs,

939
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,679
with the sea on one side in a steep, impassable

940
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,559
hill on the other. King Leonidis and his men chose

941
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:46,039
the perfect position to battle the Persian invaders. It's like,

942
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:49,639
you gotta go through this very slim little hall.

943
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a bottleneck and which is not a bottle

944
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,320
neck is good for any sort of defense, but especially

945
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,159
when your defense is like the phalanx, like a wall,

946
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,679
essentially like try to move us bro.

947
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was their entire strategy, move us bro.

948
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,119
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't play Rome to Total War ever,

949
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,320
but I played Rome Total War the first one a lot,

950
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,039
and the first sieve I ever played as was the Greeks,

951
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:20,320
and oh my god, the hop lights and failings is

952
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,760
were just unfucking movable on defense, Like if you don't

953
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,280
flank them, it doesn't even matter if your troops are

954
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,440
like a higher tier, You're just not going to get

955
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,400
to them.

956
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:35,079
Speaker 2: On the fifth day after the Persian arrival at Thermopyli,

957
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,400
Xerxes ordered five thousand archers to shoot a barrage of arrows,

958
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,639
but they were ineffective. They shot from at least one

959
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:47,119
hundred yards away, and the Greek wooden shields, sometimes covered

960
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,880
with a very thin layer of bronze and helmets, deflected

961
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:56,199
the arrows. The Persian soon launched a frontal assault in

962
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
waves of around ten thousand men.

963
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,679
Speaker 1: But it's not ten thousand men, right, it's however many

964
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,400
men can get to.

965
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: The front of it fit like shoulder right, so every

966
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,719
squeezed tight.

967
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that'd be like a funny sketch that

968
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,280
we have no ability to do because it would be

969
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,679
too high high production value.

970
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: Need men, We just need bodies.

971
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: You're just like waiting in line to fight. Yeah, Like

972
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,400
you're literally waiting in line going through TSA, Like you're yeah,

973
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,800
like you're in TSA or fucking disney World or something

974
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,639
on a busy day and you're just like.

975
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this line is everyone in front of

976
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,679
you is dying. Yeah, and you're just like, I can't

977
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,280
wait to die.

978
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

979
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,119
Speaker 2: That's what you turn.

980
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: That's what they are standing in line for to get

981
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,880
a spear to the neck.

982
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,519
Speaker 2: And then those bodies stack up so they create kind

983
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:42,480
of a body wall. Yeah, you got to get over.

984
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gross, so you're just climbing over blood

985
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:46,639
and shit.

986
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: And limb.

987
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

988
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,199
Speaker 2: The Greeks fought in front of the Focian wall at

989
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,519
the Narialist part of the pass, which enabled them to

990
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,159
use as few soldiers as possible. The weaker shields and

991
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,480
short spears and swords of the Persians prevented them from

992
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:09,239
effectively engaging the Greek hop lights, and they were butchered.

993
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,599
Speaker 1: They don't even touch them, like literally, like yeah, like

994
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,639
they have either shorter spears or swords. The so one

995
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:22,239
thing that made the uh Macedonians so effective and roll

996
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,920
over Greece is that I have to double check this,

997
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,519
but I'm pretty sure if Philip was just like, yo,

998
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:31,599
what if we use even longer spears.

999
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the whole thing.

1000
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 1: And then they show up and the Greeks.

1001
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: Are like, oh fuck, our spears aren't long enough. So

1002
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,800
he sends in, of course, his special forces.

1003
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: Who are in the movie, you're like samurai essentially the immortals.

1004
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, not so immortal.

1005
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, in the movie too, they don't

1006
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,800
give they don't give anyone credit who is not on

1007
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,440
the Greek side, because in the movie the immortals are

1008
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,920
also freaks, like they're all wearing these like samurai metal,

1009
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,639
like Japanese Samurai mass but like one gets pulled off

1010
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,599
like the narrative.

1011
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:18,039
Speaker 2: A spinoff movie called The Immortals. I'm pretty sure did they.

1012
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean they did a second three hundred.

1013
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,119
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they did in a more immortals movie

1014
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,119
that wasn't the Marvel movie. Yeah, it's just called Immortals.

1015
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,960
I don't know if it has anything to do with them.

1016
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, the narrators like the Eboltos spat has

1017
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,800
Mickey Vork in it. That's sweet.

1018
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: His ruthless army marched across Greece, leeven burned out villages

1019
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,000
and the corpse of the innocent in their wake. So

1020
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:46,159
this has to be maybe about this.

1021
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Is that in this? Is that in the Snyder verse. No,

1022
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,760
it's just another one.

1023
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: Look like it. It was directed by Tarzan Singh has

1024
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:02,639
Henry cavill in it. Camel has Henry Cavly and Mickey Rourke.

1025
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: That's weird. But yeah, that was like in the movie,

1026
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,280
it's just like the Emoto's freakish soldious.

1027
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:11,679
Speaker 2: These are guys chosen by Zous, So now I don't

1028
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:13,360
think it has anything to do with them actually.

1029
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Slaves to sixies and like one guy gets his mask

1030
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,960
ripped off and it's just like I don't even know,

1031
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:23,280
like it's like a burn victim.

1032
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: Like he's like.

1033
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,519
Speaker 1: Like no one, no one who is against the Greeks.

1034
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,559
Isn't either super gay or super deformed.

1035
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they fail to in the second wave, and after

1036
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,880
two days of pure failure, Xerxes stops the assault and

1037
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,039
withdraws back to camp totally perplexed, like what how is

1038
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:51,679
this happening? Like you can only do he's just throwing bodies. Yeah,

1039
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,159
but the thing is the grinder.

1040
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,199
Speaker 1: There's no flanking. It's so it's literally just waves of

1041
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,840
like I don't know, twenty on twenty.

1042
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're gonna win with the better swords and

1043
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,360
shield Here's what I would do and spears.

1044
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know why they didn't do it, because

1045
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,119
this existed at the time to some extent. Just wheel

1046
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:18,079
up a catapult. Just wheel up a catapult. The Spartans

1047
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:21,920
can't leave their position, right, like, they they have to stay.

1048
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,519
Speaker 2: They're using the geography to be as tight as possible.

1049
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: Right, So just stand there and look at them while

1050
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,119
you're However, many slaves push a fucking doesn't even have

1051
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:35,039
to be a big catapult. You could build one. You

1052
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:38,360
could build a mini catapult and just shoot medium sized

1053
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,599
rocks at them to your heart's content.

1054
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: Well, their shields they do have a thin layer of bronze,

1055
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,559
but there's a lot of wood. Why don't you just

1056
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:46,679
light the arrows on fire.

1057
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,639
Speaker 1: You don't know, that might work, That could have worked, Yeah,

1058
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:56,400
or fuck, I don't even know. Just light a giant

1059
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,920
fire in front of them, smoke them out.

1060
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:01,159
Speaker 2: As Xerxes was pondering what to do next, a local

1061
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:07,440
named Euphaltes informed him of the mountain path around Thermopylae

1062
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,719
and offered to guide the Persian army For this act.

1063
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:16,800
His name received a lasting stigma and came to mean

1064
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,480
nightmare in the Greek language, or to symbolize a traitor

1065
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,119
in Greek culture. Arnold which it is?

1066
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: It is? Yeah.

1067
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: Xerxes sent his commander that evening with a force of

1068
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:35,519
twenty thousand men that included what was left of the immortals,

1069
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,119
to encircle the Greeks via the path. At daybreak on

1070
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:45,000
the third day, the Foscian garden the path retreated to

1071
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,000
a nearby hill to make their stand, assuming the Persians

1072
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,800
would come attack them. So they bailed on the path

1073
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,920
and went to a hill nearby, thinking the Persians were

1074
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,360
going to engage, and Persians just kept on going.

1075
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, or they just bypassed them.

1076
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,519
Speaker 2: They volleyed a couple arrows to keep them at bay.

1077
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,599
But yeah, they just they're like, why are we gonna

1078
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:07,639
waste her time? Just go on the path for a fine.

1079
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did what we should have done to Peale Lou.

1080
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:12,840
If you've listened to last week's episode, yeah, which is

1081
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:13,800
just skip.

1082
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: It, just move on.

1083
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: Just not important.

1084
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: Learning from a runner that the Focians had not held

1085
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,440
the path, Leonidis called a council of war at dawn.

1086
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,400
Some of the Greeks argued for withdrawal, but Leonidis resolved

1087
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,800
to stay at the past with the Spartans. Upon discovering

1088
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,840
that his army had been encircled, Leonidis told his allies

1089
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,760
that they could leave if they wanted to. While many

1090
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,840
of the Greeks took him up on his offer, yeah.

1091
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were like, yeah, let's live to fight

1092
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:43,960
another day.

1093
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,079
Speaker 2: Around two thousand soldiers stay behind to fight and die.

1094
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,360
Leoni has chose to form this decision so that the

1095
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,119
other Greek contingents could get away. A lot of people

1096
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,480
are like, oh, this is where the Spartans got the

1097
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:02,599
reputation that they don't rich. Yeah, or they just had

1098
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:07,519
some like dumb ass strategy where they never retreated. I

1099
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:09,480
think it was more just Leonidis was like, we're gonna

1100
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:13,559
get you know, five thousand, six thousand dudes out of here. Yeah,

1101
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:16,840
we'll hold the line. They'll be able to fight another day.

1102
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Right, and go back and tell the city what happened,

1103
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,079
and like other cities what happened, and like inform them,

1104
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:24,199
like get fucking ready.

1105
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if all the troops had retreated, the open

1106
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,320
ground beyond the pass would have allowed the Persian cavalry

1107
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,920
to run the Greeks down. If they had all remained

1108
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,159
at the pass, they would have been encircled and eventually

1109
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:40,199
just choke.

1110
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's another thing too that the Thermopylae did is that, Yeah,

1111
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,280
they couldn't use their calve.

1112
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: No, can't be running horses down that thin path. No.

1113
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: It's also suicide to charge in at least in Rome

1114
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,599
total war, suicide to charge a failings with cavalry.

1115
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,639
Speaker 2: Because they just eat you their shields.

1116
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,679
Speaker 1: No, like the spears get you before. That's I mean

1117
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,880
that the main way to fight cavalry up until basically

1118
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:15,719
guns got really good was pikes with always spear spear

1119
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,599
walls whatever like that of dead horses. Yeah, that persisted

1120
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:24,519
until probably the seventeen hundreds honestly, like the early seventeen hundreds.

1121
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:29,199
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, man, that is not they don't show that movies.

1122
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:30,719
The amount of dead horses.

1123
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't do a good job with the

1124
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:38,159
sheer amount of just dead horses that are everywhere.

1125
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: Those are way more valuable than soldiers too. Oh yeah,

1126
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,239
to the armies at.

1127
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: Least losing losing cavalry costs you a lot of Like

1128
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:49,800
you can, you know, toss infantry at whatever you want,

1129
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,239
but like cavalry units, it's like twice the amount of training.

1130
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:56,360
The horse costs a ton of money. Like, it's just

1131
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,840
you can't. You got to use them, right, you can't

1132
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,360
waste them.

1133
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:04,639
Speaker 2: Persian force of ten thousand men comprising of light infantry

1134
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:07,280
and cavalry, charged at the front of the Greek formation.

1135
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:12,800
Leonidis died in the assault, shot by Persian archers, and

1136
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,039
the two sides actually fought over his body.

1137
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: Oh who could get it.

1138
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: He died pretty early in that kind of part of

1139
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,360
the battle.

1140
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: He died like William Travis at the Alamo. Travis was

1141
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,880
like the first guy to die in the battle.

1142
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's tough when you see he's given like

1143
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,760
this raw Raspiason dies within like ten minutes.

1144
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I just like in the movie how he like comes

1145
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,559
out and Xerxes is like, finally.

1146
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:41,719
Speaker 2: Leonidos, he does get blood from Xerxes.

1147
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: We would make love to each other.

1148
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: That is where they start to take their creative liberies.

1149
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: His shield was heavy, so he had to had to

1150
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:57,360
lose it. His helmet obscured his vision, spat.

1151
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: Spat, and.

1152
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:03,039
Speaker 1: I just like the way he says that. It's so funny.

1153
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: As the immortals approached the Greeks withdrew and took a

1154
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,119
stand on a hill behind the wall, tearing down parts

1155
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:11,480
of the walls. Xerxes ordered the hill surrounded, and the

1156
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:15,840
Persians rained down arrows until every last Greek was dead.

1157
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't really have to go in and do anything.

1158
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:23,039
Speaker 2: The pass that Thermopola was open to the Persian army.

1159
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:27,960
And for this though, according to Herodotus, so take that

1160
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,639
for what you will, it cost the Persians twenty thousand men.

1161
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: I actually think that's a reasonable estimate. Yeah, Like truly,

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if the Greeks had seven thousand and fought for how

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many days? How many days was this?

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Speaker 2: This is like five six days?

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Speaker 1: I think I don't think that's an unreasonable estimate like

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he could his look Herodotus, I literally thought, you're gonna

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be like Haaratas said, he killed one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Thousand men killed a million.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, twenty thousands, like a fairly reasonable number.

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Speaker 2: He catches the off guard with some of his numbers,

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like oh that actually, yeah, he sounds reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad, like it's it's see, but that's

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,800
if it's a lie, it's a good lie, you know

1174
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,599
what I mean, A sprinkle in it's like, oh yeah,

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01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:16,280
this is like two to one, you know what I mean?

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01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,679
They lost or I guess four to one because they

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lost five thousand ish and uh and the yeah, the

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Persians lost twenty thousand.

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Speaker 2: After the Persians departure, the Greeks collected they're dead and

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buried them on a hill. A full forty years after

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the battle, Leonidas's bones were returned to Sparta, where he

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was buried again with full honors. Funeral games were held

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in his memory, and the battle itself had shown that,

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even when heavily outnumbered, the Greeks could put up an

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effective fight against the Persians.

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Speaker 1: But that's like their jam, like that's when they do

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their best, honestly, other than Alexander, who was constantly on

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,199
the offensive. Like, I feel like the Greeks do their

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01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:02,480
best work. Defending a Failings is kind of I feel

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like it's made for defense defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just you know, sitting in the pocket picking

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their spots. Yeah, because it's it's a defensive box.

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Speaker 1: I will see. Yeah, I will say this like whenever

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I had to attack, whenever I had to do an

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offensive playing as the Greeks or the Macedonians in Rome

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Total War, it was really uh fraught because if they

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caught you on your flanks, Like if you're moving forward,

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your flanks become more exposed and you just have to

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keep the flying. That's true with anything, but like you

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really have to keep the flanks locked down on a

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Failings because if a FHIALANX gets hit in the side

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01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:44,679
versus like another unit in Rome Total War, that collapses immediately.

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Speaker 2: The defeat at Thermopylea had turned Leonidas and his men

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under his command into martyrs. It boosted the morale of

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01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,880
all Greek soldiers. In the second Persian invasion, and yeah,

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Persia doesn't take grease.

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,239
Speaker 1: There is a major battle that they lose to the

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Spartans and combined I don't remember the other one, but

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01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,320
like Spartans Athenians, and I don't remember who else, but yeah,

1210
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,599
they do lose a major battle later in the war

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01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:16,280
and you have to fuck off and then tuck their tail.

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,599
And then what twenty years later Alexander comes calling.

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Speaker 2: Mhm, he's waiting, and I mean he's probably like a

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01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:29,320
child at this point, right, I'm not sure, so you

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01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,320
might not even be alive.

1216
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: What year was the battle Fromopoley.

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01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: Four eighty BC?

1218
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: I see Andrew the Great, Let's see he was No,

1219
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:44,440
he was in the three hundreds, so yeah, I never mind,

1220
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:47,119
this is quite a bit after. Okay, so Philip was

1221
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,679
not in play at this point, I thought he was. No,

1222
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:52,000
we were dead dead ass wrong on that.

1223
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: Maybe Philip had a father named Philip, he was Philip

1224
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,960
the second. Okay, then I read Philip, so I just

1225
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imagine it was Philip.

1226
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Speaker 1: Probably don't even his father, it's probably his grandfather of great.

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01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: Grandfaka and got that wrong. But I saw Philip. Yeah,

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01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,480
just well, I macedone.

1229
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:13,719
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, well, I mean, you know Elizabeth with

1230
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,679
Elizabeth the iond Yeah, France, I'm not keeping up. All

1231
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:19,760
the kings were named Louis in France, they were fucking

1232
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,639
eighteen of them.

1233
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many piouses are there? For popes?

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01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: Is pious? Tie with Benedict, it's up there. They're both

1235
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,159
like sixteen or seventeen deep.

1236
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: Too many Benedicts. The last Benedict doesn't even county retired. Yeah,

1237
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,559
you gotta die in that chair, doesn't count. Revoke that Benedict.

1238
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree he didn't. He did not fulfill

1239
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:47,920
his watch.

1240
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: Hasn't ended well technically as he died, yeah, shortly after

1241
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,159
and shame would you learn today?

1242
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: A fair bit of this? I mean I didn't know,

1243
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,760
like all the super nitty gritty detail, although I have

1244
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,320
like read about the Ropoli before, but I didn't know

1245
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,840
all the super nitty gritty details. But I mean three

1246
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,719
hundred pretty much hits the notes.

1247
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Leonis doesn't last at the end. That's

1248
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:17,079
really a yeah.

1249
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he makes it pretty far. In the actual uh movie.

1250
01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: He draws blood. Yeah, after he launches himself, he yeats

1251
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:32,000
himself off, his boys shield leoditis.

1252
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,679
Speaker 1: Now the spot and it's five thousand strat or whatever

1253
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,480
the fuck, twenty thousand strat?

1254
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:44,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, who's today's hitler. I'm gonna blame the rest

1255
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:45,960
of the Spartans that didn't show up because they were

1256
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,239
at a festival.

1257
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, religion, I guess, I don't know, stupid religious rules.

1258
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,519
Speaker 2: Leonis is cool to fight, so it's already three hundred

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01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:55,159
dudes fight now.

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01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:58,159
Speaker 1: Well he no. Well, I think in the movie, the

1261
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:00,440
way he justifies it, and I think this my actually

1262
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,599
be true is that he was like, oh, I'm not

1263
01:05:04,159 --> 01:05:06,239
going to fight. I'm just going on a trip and

1264
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:06,960
I got to take my.

1265
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,719
Speaker 2: Bodyguard with me and take my boys.

1266
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I run into trouble, I run into trouble.

1267
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,639
But this isn't a war band, this isn't a More

1268
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:15,440
March or whatever.

1269
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the movie's wrong on that they knew the

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:19,599
Persians would come.

1271
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: Well they know in the movie too, and he's just like, oh, okay, well,

1272
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:27,679
I'll just take my bodyguard on a stroll.

1273
01:05:29,159 --> 01:05:30,559
Speaker 2: I need three hundred of them.

1274
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, three hundred bodyguards on a stroll.

1275
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: Anyway. That's today's episode. We love you guys, Thanks you

1276
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,800
tune it in. Make sure to check out our Patreon,

1277
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:45,559
Patreon dot com slash Softcore History. Two additional episodes on

1278
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:49,079
the Lower Tier that drop Wednesday and Friday, that are

1279
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:51,920
much like this. We also have a hotline you can

1280
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,719
call for that. We're starting to do voicemail episodes again,

1281
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,199
we've done over fifty, but we haven't done one in

1282
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:01,960
a long time. Finally got a vicemail episode out last Friday. Yeah,

1283
01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:02,719
it was a lot of fun.

1284
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:05,239
Speaker 1: I love voicemail episodes, a lot of fun.

1285
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: So you get to contribute. There's a discord that comes

1286
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,559
along with the Patreon. You're trying to build up a

1287
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:12,840
community of softies, and I.

1288
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: Know we try not to be topical, but since it

1289
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,760
is that time, if you join it. We're doing a

1290
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,119
bracket for March Madness because we have and we have

1291
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:22,719
a sports show that's on a higher tier, higher tier,

1292
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,920
but you will You do not need to be on

1293
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,119
that higher tier to do the bracket. Maybe you should

1294
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:29,800
be though, No, okay, I want lots of It's more

1295
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,559
fun with a yeah yeah, with a bigger pool.

1296
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:36,239
Speaker 2: But we have a sports tier. We talk sports every week.

1297
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,400
We do a lot of sports show. I also write

1298
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,639
a golf column every week. And and if you follow

1299
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:45,679
my picks, it just paid for your membership. Yep, because

1300
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:47,639
we got on the board. Baby came on.

1301
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: That's what people, you know, when you bet football, when

1302
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,920
you bet all kinds of stuff like that, you got

1303
01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:56,800
to kind of win regularly. But when you bet golf, let's.

1304
01:06:56,639 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: Say you're putting ten bucks on each person, right, ten

1305
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,280
dollars bets, he's thirty to one, just won three hundred bucks.

1306
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you only need to win a couple of golf

1307
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:06,880
bets a year, every golf. That's almost like a parlay.

1308
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: It's like a scratch ticket.

1309
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of ticket, yeah, which is what

1310
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:11,800
a parlay is.

1311
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: It's not a lot of ticket because a lot of

1312
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,119
tickets never hit.

1313
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:14,599
Speaker 1: True.

1314
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:19,199
Speaker 2: A scratch off that you win a considerable amount of

1315
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:22,320
money on, you know, you might there's scratch outs you win,

1316
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,599
you know, your money back. But every now and then,

1317
01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:31,440
every like ten twenty scratch offs, you're hitting a big jackpot. Yeah.

1318
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:33,480
I don't know if that's that's probably not accurate at

1319
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,760
all for scratch offs, but for me personally, every ten

1320
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,840
to twenty tournaments, I will crush.

1321
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:41,559
Speaker 1: Get it up.

1322
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:43,679
Speaker 2: So we got one on the board for the year.

1323
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,679
We're gonna try to continue. We're hot, we're feeling good,

1324
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:48,039
starting to see the ball.

1325
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:49,679
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1326
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:54,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so check it out. We love you guys, leave

1327
01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:56,760
a review please and thank you. Five stars on Apple

1328
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,480
and Spotify. If you leave reviews on Apple, we will

1329
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:02,920
read them next week. Five stars please. We gotta get

1330
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,280
rid of some of these one star reviews that are

1331
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:11,639
very unfair. Didn't we never defended Jeffrey Epstein. I yeah,

1332
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:12,760
we never did that.

1333
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,239
Speaker 1: I had no point.

1334
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: We called out as father in law in an entire episode.

1335
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, all we all. I think it was me there,

1336
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,960
mad at and all I said was like, I don't

1337
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,439
have the band with to give a ship until someone

1338
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,079
gets arrested.

1339
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to start arresting people and then we'll pay attention.

1340
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: Right, what do you how much more do you want

1341
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,479
me to do? I don't think it's I don't think

1342
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,079
it's not a big deal. I'm just like, I got

1343
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:35,319
enough going on in my life.

1344
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,039
Speaker 2: We're like, something needs to happen, that's it.

1345
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. I got enough going on, and

1346
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:39,520
there's other.

1347
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: News, because otherwise you're just yelling about nothing. Yeah, something's

1348
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:44,680
gotta be done about it.

1349
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:50,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, And until until something does, I'm not gonna I'm

1350
01:08:50,039 --> 01:08:52,800
not gonna fret because it's just typical anyway.

1351
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:57,279
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. We'll see guys. Next week, Rod Fox,

1352
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,319
I'm damn Jester. You just got Saucer