Speaker 1: Yes, I'll start Toyota Presents off the Bench with Jacob
Hester and Matt flynn a say.
Speaker 2: Hester and Hester.
Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each
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Speaker 4: Bench, all right, welcome back game that number three oh TV,
one of four, five ESPN, Baton Rouge, Jaco flynn elandre
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Speaker 5: Hold this depth chart. Quarterback. We've got Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 4: Or Tyler Shuck oh dot you're making announcement or Jakyner.
So the only other position we have in or is
edg Rusher, where it is Carl Granderson or Chase Young.
Outside of that, everybody's listed in their spot. Chris Olave
at receiver, Rashid Shaheed, Brandon Cooks at receiver, Banked Penning McCoy,
Caesar ruiz Huaga all right there on the offensive line,
Juwan Johnson a tied end, Alvin Kamara running back. No
surprises on defense either. I mean, Julian Blackman at safety,
but when you signed him when Tyron retired, you kind
of figured that would be the case. It's Kool Aid
and Alonte Taylor at corner, Justin Reid at safety. So
you know, we didn't have a lot of question marks. Now,
I guess any question you did have kind of gets
answered with this. First, I'm gone, I mean, it's official.
How's it not official? Like, I'm just if you put
it out there, it's official. But quarterback, it still has
three quarterbacks as the starter.
Speaker 6: I just.
Speaker 5: The process has to speed up. It's just it has to.
Speaker 4: You were about to play your first preseason game, and
maybe that was your goal. Maybe that was the timeline
that you wanted to get to, and now that you're there,
maybe they want to see coming up tomorrow is tomorrow
right against the Chargers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, tomorrow against the Chargers.
Speaker 4: All three will get it opportunity to play against a
good defense, and then you'll go from three to two.
Speaker 5: But their clock is ticking.
Speaker 6: My they're not all three gonna go up against the
good defense. Spencer back, Spencer will go up against the
good defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe maybe one of like it's really easy,
like the guys a little bit longer in the preseason.
Speaker 6: Yeah, these preseason games are really but I would think
they would play Spencer longer as well, like to get
him more reps, more repetitions if they think he's clearly leading.
But these these preseason games are great to watch because
we've been like wanting and missing football and like we
we just want to watch it. And so you're gonna
take every rep and you're gonna overanalyze everything. But like
you gotta be careful when watching this, especially like in
a three person competition. What Spencer Ratley. Of course he's
gonna have better guys around him. But like I can
tell you, in the second half of preseason games, which
is usually when you're two's and then the threes and
and the guys fighting for spots are going in like that,
you might get Jay Cayner coming in third in the
fourth quarter and he's got the best stats of everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to be really.
Speaker 6: Careful of how you make an analysis of that as
a fan, be like, well, Jay cayneer three four, one
hundred yards in the fourth quarter, a couple of touchdowns.
I tell you, everybody's wide open in the fourth quarter
in preseason games. And this was from experience from a
guy that like wanted to play in the first half more. Yeah,
but I played in the second half a lot, and
I made a lot of hay in the second half.
Speaker 4: I led the NFL in preseason rushing yards my rookie
year because I was going against uber drivers.
Speaker 6: I did something really hard. I guess literally uber drivers.
There was a guy I played within the Jets that
was driving ubers. Yeah. In twenty ten preseason, I was.
I was starting that game and I think it was
Week three, the third game of the preseason. I think
maybe maybe it was the fourth.
Speaker 4: Can't remember. And I do it.
Speaker 6: I'm starting the game, I'm playing most of us I
played three quarters and I threw for over three hundred
yards and no touchdowns. How about that? Have you ever
seen someone over three yards and no The led the
preseason in passenger me and Charlie Charlie Whitehurst, we led
the league. Yea, It's like you just got to you
gotta be careful of when you look at the stats
in games. You got to see, like how the process
of how they're getting through the reads and you run
the same five plays with Rattler than Chuck than Hayter,
No one play. It could be the same play against
the same defense. It's gonna be a different You gotta
grade it differently as a coach because it might look
different away. A linebacker plays as he going like who's
he going against? Like yeah, it just looks at it,
So you have to you have to judge it based
on the process and how things looks and the progressions
and the comfortability that quarterback show, and not necessarily completion percentage.
It's a gauge. It certainly is a gauge because if
a guy's open, you've got to be able to hit them.
You got to be able to find these guys, and
if you're not, it's an issue. And so it's certainly
a gauge, but it's not the overall judge. So just
be careful like watching these games and just know that
that spencer's gonna be facing the number one defense. Of course,
I get it. Y'all are gonna say he's got the boy,
he's got the best goes around him. I get that too, right,
It's just different.
Speaker 5: So what would you be looking for?
Speaker 4: So, if you're a quarterback coach, Matt Flann, you're there
in that room, switch places was Scott Tolzen.
Speaker 5: What are you looking for?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 4: Knowing that the opponent's going to be a little bit different,
even the scheme of what the defense is doing from
if Derwin James is in there for the Chargers is
going to be different than if the third string guys
sure in there for the Chargers. So, like, what are
some things if you were the quarterback coach that you're
trying to pay attention to or you're trying to highlight
to see is Tyler shuck? Is Jake Haner doing a
good job? And are they progressing? If it's not the
passing yards?
Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, the yards completion percentage, all
that is a gauge, Yeah, is part of the equation.
It is what is your operation like from calling a play,
from getting to the line of scrimmage, from getting our
guys in the right position, does the is what you're
being asked to do operationally? Is it smooth? And then
are you executing the play like we want to? So
if the first offense is out there going against the
first defense, the first defense is going to show you
a lot more exotic things because it's like their time
to work on maybe a third down blitz package, maybe
a walk around package, a little bit more exotic situations,
which they're not going to do with the second, third,
fourth teams in there. So like, are how are you
handling these situations from an operational standpoint? Are you making
past protections adjustments? Are you getting us to the right
running play? Are we telling you something? Did you show
something in a game that was bad that we coached
you on two days before in practice we said watch
for this. How are you taking your coaching points? Like
things are gonna it's preseason. Everyone's gonna make mistakes. Quarterbacks
are gonna make mistakes, they're gonna make bad reads, they're
gonna make it's just gonna happen. But are you doing
the things? Are you making sure you're cutting out the
mistakes and taking our coaching points? And then after that,
once the ball snap, how comfortable are you working our offense,
going through the reads, going through the progressions. How comfortable
are you in the pocket. And then of course at
that point you're talented. You're you're in the NFL because
you're talented. You can make all the throws, you can run,
you can scramble. So at that point, can you work
what we're teaching you do in this offense? Make sure
that like nothing's too big for you, You're not getting rattled,
you're not getting fooled. They're not disguising things to where like, Okay,
I thought it was this and they completely fooled me.
And then after that it's like, I panic. That's what
young people do when they get fooled and they an
NFL that's disguises in the world like you have. And
Spencer with the ones is gonna face better discus than
Chuck is with the twos. Now he's gonna face better
as guys, is than Hayter is with the threes. It's
just the way it is. So you have to look
at all that. Then at the end of the day,
can you make the play if the plays there got
to make it? And I say all that about the
second half and the fourth quarter preseason games, guys, are
wide open, you still got to complete it. You still
got to go to your progressions and get it there.
So that's why, like as a vet, when I was playing,
like I could do all that. Yeah, I could manipulate
people with my eyes. I could make the pre snap
reads like usually a younger quarterback is on the same
page as everybody else in the second half and in
the fourth quarter, so you don't have those But like
when you when you start seeing veteran quarterbacks play in
those situations, that's when you're like, Okay.
Speaker 4: There's a big difference. Yeah there, And so.
Speaker 6: Hopefully Spencer's is that type of guy where he is,
But that's what I'd be looking for.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 6: It's not just one thing, it's not just two things,
not just three things. It's how are you handling the
whole package from what a quarterback does, and that most
of it is operationally. It's your comfortability and at the
end of the day, are things cannot be too big
for you. You cannot panic when things go wrong. Because
it's the NFL, there's seventeen weeks, there's playoffs. Those guys
are really good. On the other side of the ball,
things are not always gonna be great. Everybody's got a
plan until you get punch in the face. That's the
famous saying in football. You get punched in the face
all the time. You win a REP, you lose a rep.
You win a REP, you lose a rep. You try
to win more than you lose, but you're gonna lose reps.
Things are gonna happen. Things aren't always gonna be perfect.
How do you react and when things don't go your way?
When you do get punched in the mouth, let's make
sure it doesn't turn to a turnover. Yeah, and let's
make sure one turnover doesn't turn into two turnovers. So
that's all I would do.
Speaker 4: One interesting note on the depth chart. It's a great
breakdown of quarterbacks. And we'll see how they play against
the Chargers again coming up tomorrow night.
Speaker 5: I go to the running back position because it's got
a while.
Speaker 6: That they're like, they're going to California to play, but
they're not practicing with them.
Speaker 4: I think there's actually I think they're staying there though,
in practicing afterwards though. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So usually when you go practice at like a different
state off location, you have a usually a joint practice
leading up the joint leading up to the game, which
is awful because it's like, guys, I've gone against this
guy for a week.
Speaker 4: We fought three times, and now I gotta go play. Yeah,
but they are going to stay out there, so yeah,
it's a little different. And they've done it in the
past too.
Speaker 6: So what happened when y'all were who y'all practice against?
Speaker 4: Always the Cowboys? What happened?
Speaker 6: Like defensive end for the Cowboys? What happened? What happened
if like you tackled Philip Rus I told.
Speaker 4: You you got Randy McMichael jumping over the offensive line.
I was like, Randy, where'd you learn that move from? Sir?
You grab going to the rodeo? My god, though, that
was a great I love Randy. The running back position,
so it's obviously a k Alba Kamara first, then it
is Kendre Miller, then Cam Akers, and then Clyde Edwards layer,
and then you got Jones and you got Neil behind that.
Kendre Miller continues to get opportunities. And we talked about
this yesterday and I get it. The Flashes must be
incredible because the day that I went, there was one
running back that lost in one on ones and it
was him all right, And he's battled through injuries, he's
had confrontation with the head coach at the time, Dennis Allen,
And I know that he's had flashes because he continues
to get opportunities. A lot of times, when you're going
into year three and you haven't done anything in your
third round pick, they've already forgotten about you. You're you're
somewhere else. This preseason for him is monumental. This is it.
It has to be like you have to flash in
this game against the Chargers and in the preseason because
they've got two veteran backs that are right there behind you.
And also you've got Jones who can be your special
teams guy. Because Kendre Miller is not on teams. He
doesn't have a lot right now built up inequity. Like
he's not on teams, I've never seen him on he'sn't running,
he's not the R five on kickoff, I've never seen
him better.
Speaker 6: And meetings be like, hey can I get yeah, get
on kickoff?
Speaker 4: Right? So this preseason is big for him. This feels
like a final opportunity situation and that I think that's
why you brought into veteran running backs like you did
to kind of solidify the room just in case he
needs to be the best player in the field on Thursday,
because he needs to go and earn that backup running
back position.
Speaker 5: He needs to earn snaps because.
Speaker 4: Another opportunity for him is telling us that they see something.
Every once in a while. It's like, man, we can't
deny that. We can't get rid of him just yet.
I know he's gotten a lot of chances. I know
we've been waiting on him to kind of make that
next move. So this preseason as much as anybody out there,
and I'm not talking about like for the team success,
I'm talking about just strictly individual. Are you going to
make the team. Are you going to be impactful? This
preseason feels like for Kendre Miller it is now or never.
Speaker 6: And you can I mean the preseason like you can
have a rough couple of weeks, but then start I
get at the running back position more so than quarterly.
You can you can flash in preseason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And are you picking up protection running routes? Are
you reading the right keys in the run game?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure you.
Speaker 6: Cant, but you're right the flashes must be so much
gotta be like you make the decision really hard or
really easy for them. It seems like the type of
player right now that the decision is going to be
really clear one way or the other, especially with the
veterans that you brought in the veterans that you already have.
You're either going to be like, hey, look, there's no
denying based on what we've seen in the games a
couple of times here and there, probably just like this
guy can add to our team and like, look we
got the roster depth, isn't there what we need? We
have to have a home run hitter and he provides us. Yeah,
we got to deal with some of the bad, but
he provides us sutch of weapon. That's the decision that's
going to have to be made. I don't think it's
at this short period of time. It's going to get
to the point where, like, I trust you all the time.
It's got to be that decision like all right, we
have to have lighting in a bottle every now and
then with this team for us to win more games
than we're supposed to, then you're gonna have to show
out and show us those flashes every now and then.
I guess we should have a little correction to games.
Not tomorrow. It's not Sunday.
Speaker 4: Sunday. You give me bad info, bad intel.
Speaker 3: What I do?
Speaker 4: What I.
Speaker 6: Did?
Speaker 4: I say?
Speaker 7: Yes, let me say anything.
Speaker 5: Wow those the Cowboys, you know?
Speaker 7: Wow cowboys play?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely should have known the Chargers.
Speaker 6: We're going to call you Taylor GPT right.
Speaker 3: Now today, Taylor GPT.
Speaker 7: You don't have to go back and listen.
Speaker 6: I don't think for sure.
Speaker 5: Hey, I got Hey, it's okay. I got it wrong too.
Speaker 4: We're human, we may and we got one singular brain
cell between the four of us. It's okay. I messed
up to Hey, patches to me, tell me you can
move by a veteran player. That's a good thank you,
mister Deeds. Mister Deeds, and I bring, like I said,
one brain cell. Uh nice. I thought it was a
little Actually not, because you're going, you're going. You're gaining time.
So maybe not like leaving Wednesday playing Thursday. It's a preseason.
We would leave like the same day as the game.
Sometimes if we play like Arizona, Arizona, San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we did the same Seattle.
Speaker 6: That sounds right. You saved some money on the hotels.
Speaker 4: League Bolts.
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hour drive and we'd stayed the night.
Speaker 5: We go to the day of the game.
Speaker 4: Issues.
Speaker 6: We played a lot of nights.
Speaker 4: Better hit you, better hit some Russell Wilson high knees
in the plane.
Speaker 6: Baby, that is awful, No wonder you are terrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. All right, we'll take a break one
brain cell CTEOTB coming back here on one four five ESPN.
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Now for it, heyday's NFL Story of the day.
Speaker 2: Day this will be.
Speaker 7: This will put a smile on our host, Jacob Hester's face.
Keenan Allen to return to the l A Chargers. The
rich keep getting rich. I believe that they're gonna have
one of the best offenses in the league because well,
they really get a year ago and they got better
at almost every single position. You remember he spent last
year with the Chicago Bears. Wasn't it out of the lineup,
but still a pretty solid season despite playing with Caleb
Williams during his rookie season. But you pair him with
Lad McConaughey. Now you have Trey Harris from Ole Missus
Monster at running back and a Marion Hampton and Naji Harris.
You have a good offensive line, you have Justin Herbert.
Everything for the Los Angeles Chargers to be successful, you
have you have the head coach. I love what this
team's done in the offseason.
Speaker 4: Well done, Well done team, really really, that's why well done.
I am excited about Ken Allen joining the Charges again.
I mean it is a receiver room that last year
outside of Ladarius really struggled, and you had Josh Palmer.
Johnston was inconsistent, had monster games, but it was never consistent.
Speaker 6: So bring what is Lad Mconkie? What's his birth name?
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's actually.
Speaker 6: Lad Andrew Lad Mconkie.
Speaker 4: Okay, but it's just Lad. It's not like you know Ladarious.
But yeah, it is just Lad Lottie Flynn. Do you
know what Mac Jones his real name.
Speaker 6: Is all of this one, Mac Jones, Macintosh.
Speaker 7: I think it's mccork.
Speaker 6: What. He's got two last names, No, like.
Speaker 7: Jones, like Jones.
Speaker 3: Can't be naming people like.
Speaker 6: Bobby's two first names. Mccorkyl Jones is too.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Okay, we're we're a little off.
Speaker 6: His middle name is mccorky, Mac Jones, mccorkyl. Huh, Michael mccorky,
Michael mccorky.
Speaker 4: They were messing with.
Speaker 7: Us, which one with Michael Jones?
Speaker 6: They're his parents were hanaring us.
Speaker 4: I was just.
Speaker 2: Is that gonna be your New Year?
Speaker 6: Everything we're getting hatered here.
Speaker 4: Mac Jones was the fifteenth pick in a draft.
Speaker 7: I know that is wild, even even crazier. A lot
of people thought he remember when the forty nine Ers
traded up for Trey Lance, which God, they looked out
with Brock Partyer. They looked like idiots. Yeah, everybody thought it.
They were actually moving up to take Mac Jones in
that draft.
Speaker 4: And year one you're like, okay, it do for like
thirty eight hundred yards, had good touchdown interception ratio. But
once that film got out there, ball sorry to go
south for him. Then it went to fourteen and eleven,
then it went to ten to twelve, and which quarterble percentage?
Speaker 6: Just which quarterback in recent years has looked really good?
And then all of a sudden, it's like, man, we
were fooled.
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence, me and Jake actually had this conversation when
we were at the Queen last year one of the
football and I'm like, dude, because it was the year
he beat the Chargers in the playoffs, like that year
he was about to take off. It's been probably two
years now. He looked awful.
Speaker 6: Mine would be Carson Wentz. Yeah, Yeah, looked really good
with the Eagles for a long time. They were talking. Yeah,
all of a sudden it was like, like, at least
Trevor Lawrence has flashes Like, man, that's talent. Carson Wentz
just looks awful when he plays football, real tackle football.
He go from a guy they're talking about potentially you know,
MVP type stuff to can he complete a pass? Did
he throw a hit her out?
Speaker 4: Once that tape gets out there, Yeah, and you got
a couple of all seasons to do a deep dive into. Okay,
this player was successful, we're playing against him. How do
we stop it? That's what makes like the longevity of
that position, if you're that consistent, if you're Brady or
Manning or like one of these guys that does it
for twelve, fourteen, fifteen years, Like, how have we not
figured you out? Yeah, because those guys, those two guys
aren't the most talented by any means, like as far
as arm talent, how far they can throw a football,
tight spirals, That's what I'm saying. But they continue, they
continue to adjust, and the defense has never adjusted enough
to be able to stop them.
Speaker 6: That's interesting.
Speaker 7: One another one take away the off the field issues
Sean Watson. Yeah, because he had that one big year
in Houston. He had a little bit of a down
year before the suspension, which I always thought was weird
because I'm like, he wasn't that great as last year
Houston anyways, and then you go to the Browns and
I get it, but he's like the same number of
interceptions as touchdowns with Cleveland. Maybe that year off make
that big of a doubt.
Speaker 6: Like when you initially said that, I was like, well,
he hadn't really played like he had a chance. Like
when he did play, it was with the Browns. Nobody
looks to go with them. I kind of like with
mac Jones, like the Patriots were a dumpster fire when
he was doing his thing.
Speaker 7: But his last year in Houston thirty three touchdowns.
Speaker 6: Seven picks.
Speaker 7: Yeah, year off with the Cleveland seven touchdowns, five picks,
then seven and four, then last year five to three.
But what the hell happened?
Speaker 6: I was the coach. I was the coach for the Browns.
Always thought of as like a top coach. I don't know.
That's the curious thing to me.
Speaker 7: Well, because when he got there, remember how talented Cleive was,
They went to the playoffs, won a game. He hasn't
done anything since then.
Speaker 6: They should be the most talented team ever assembled because
they have a top pick every year, right, they should
be like the Avengers up there, They're not.
Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski like. People also consider him one of these
quarterback googurus. Look at their quarterbacks the last four years, last.
Speaker 4: Forty certainly the last twenty six since they came back.
Speaker 7: He had the one playoff run with Baker who was
already there before he got there, and then once they
traded him, Like who's he had, Let's.
Speaker 6: Give Baker a credit, dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One of the most impressive things I've ever seen in
the National Football League was when Baker got signed on
a Tuesday to the Rams who played in thy name
on that Thursday, been there for Like, yeah, they were
in that game, dude, they the one they came back, like,
just got the playbook it was.
Speaker 7: It was ninety two yards in like a minute fifty
something like that.
Speaker 6: When it was unbelievable. It was like one of the
most impressive things I've ever seen because I know how
hard that is to like to get there and learn
an offense. I'm sure he had to have some familiarity
with it, but it doesn't matter. But you gonna learn
a snap count?
Speaker 4: What's up this microphone? Easy? Go to good Woodward? UH
Murder Draft nineteen insaide to by four check. Can y'all
flip the jerseys on the graphic?
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 4: Because like side, I'm on this side. I get it.
But also fifteen comes before eighteen, so like if it
was backwards then it would bother me. I think.
Speaker 6: So there's like a dual situation.
Speaker 7: I mean I kind of like it though, because like
you're on this side, he's on that side. Then it's
kind of yeah.
Speaker 4: Ironic, fifteen comes before eighteen. The eighteen jersey is over
the top of the fifteen jersey, as it should be.
I think the graphic's perfect.
Speaker 6: I kind of I'm I disagree. I think it should
be flipped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that you see the eighteen.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I just think I mean, I sit here,
the fifteen should be on my side, eighteen should be
on your side.
Speaker 4: Look then to be eighteen fifteen. And it's just so
what fifteen comes before eighteen fifteen?
Speaker 3: I don't have a strong opinion.
Speaker 4: What do you have against fifteen eighteen the year?
Speaker 6: No, I just agree with the point that, like you,
the jersey's right there by you. The name, Yeah, I
would agree with that.
Speaker 4: Uh switch seats. No, I'm never going back it's freezing
over there.
Speaker 6: It's cold to day.
Speaker 4: I am back over there. This this was my seat
when we did hang with Hester. It's going to be it.
Speaker 5: He changed the air conditioned situation. I don't care.
Speaker 4: I'll go back up.
Speaker 6: Sitting in this seat is like having a never an
inconstant fever. I go from sweating to the chills, sweating
to the chills. Yeah, don't matter what I put on.
I know it's not going to be the right fit.
Speaker 4: It's been nice not to have to wear hoodies every
single day though, Like I can wear short sleeves. I
can wear this, which is like really.
Speaker 6: I like that sec.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like it's not like a
sweatshirt hoodie.
Speaker 4: Yep, you had little sec. They gave this spring meetings.
Speaker 6: I played in Green Bay. I'm cool.
Speaker 4: I did not, Thank God. Hmm.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we should switch to jerseys.
Speaker 4: See, but the problem is then that has to go
through like three people because you can't just like easily
switch something here, like it's gonna like Landra helped me out, right, Yeah, yeah, came.
Speaker 6: So how did you let me ask you this? How
did you create this logo? Take me through the process
of how this logo was created, but listeners are listening.
I think you just typed it into some sort of
artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5: Did I with this one?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: I know I did with the other one.
Speaker 8: I know there's some that some people made, and then
there is one that the original one.
Speaker 6: I think you just add a line and says, hey,
all right, sure switch those jerseys if it makes you
feel better, if it's you roll over like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it makes you feel better.
Speaker 6: But how about this, that's what everybody, that's what happy,
That's what tiger droppings.
Speaker 7: Sorry, and the running game.
Speaker 5: And the running game.
Speaker 8: I hate this guy and the quarterback situation.
Speaker 4: He is a scum beneath my foot.
Speaker 6: Can't standing pretty much have dominated this three hour debate.
Speaker 4: No, if your toush push stuff, it's at your weak
as hell. Ja oh my gosh, you can't stop it. Yeah,
be better at defense. Okay, yeah, Hey, this plays too good.
Let's bar from football.
Speaker 6: Hey, if you get to any down of distance that's
one or less, let's just won't do it.
Speaker 7: I guess that's my thing. My reason is like, like
your you're watching the Tropic Thunder, have the alley for
the first time because you've never seen it.
Speaker 5: You're like, bann it, Nope, can't stop.
Speaker 6: It, foul exactly two thousand.
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Speaker 1: From Players to Legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown l s
U Football like only champions can.
Speaker 9: Right, all right, welcome back, yan O, TB one oh
four five, ESPN, Baton Rouge.
Speaker 5: I need to tell a quick card.
Speaker 4: Story here that we went through the other day. Check
out Off the Break La Instagram, Twitter to kind of
keep up with otb's card journey. But one of the
things we told you all about, I guess ten days ago
when we sent the initial cards off, we had a
gold dragon scale card as you see here. Awesome like
something very Game of Thrones about it. But they're out
of ten, like so very rare, only in international boxes.
And the other day we bought, we partnered together and
we bought the vikings. Right, we're gonna split everything and
sell it. Split it, so you're obviously you're going for
rookie quarterback, You're going for JJ McCarthy, okay, And so
the breaker sees that it's gold. Well, if you've ever
watched a card break, once they see they've got a hit.
Then they go super slow and they do every little
corner like oh rookie, yeah, and so then they'll show
the top of the helmet. Well, so they do that, and.
Speaker 5: It's a purple Matt helmet.
Speaker 4: And we had the Vikings, so a JJ McCarthy gold
Dragon scale. I mean, it's multiple thousand dollars. You don't
even have to get a grade like raw. It's a
couple thousand dollars. So Flynn and I are watching this
together and I had I already spent the money. It
was gone.
Speaker 5: The entire chat that is watching it's like, oh, big hit, congrats,
let's go.
Speaker 4: And the cardbreaker continues to show the purple helmet and
he continues to go down, and it is Dallas Turner,
the other first round pick from a year ago for
the Minnesota Vikings, and not JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6: And maybe you're thinking, oh, well, he's still first round pick. Rookie,
isn't that good? No, because quarterbacks are the best, most
important person in the world.
Speaker 4: Goes from a couple thousand dollars to a couple hundred dollars.
I wish it was very exciting. I mean, everybody like
in the things like, oh, let's go and like how
you bikeings.
Speaker 5: JJ the card game giveth and it taketh away.
Speaker 4: But it has been fun for some of our loyal
listeners to kind of get in the card game with us.
Shout out to Quinn, who's in the Bayou four chat.
He's with us right now, Abbo, I know he's in
the card game.
Speaker 6: It's been kind of wild, like since we've kind of
gotten into it, into the hobby game. It's like there's
a lot of closet hobby and card people out there
that I had no clue that are have been collecting
or doing things like that for a long time. But
it's now it's a little bit more popular, a little
bit more mainstream. A lot of the cool kids are
doing it now.
Speaker 5: So a lot of the cool kids have companies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tom Brady is like going nuts with it. He
just got a huge place. He owns a company caller
an investor, I don't know what it called card Vault,
and they just got a huge place right across the
street from Wrigley Field. So it's wild, it's going crazy.
They had the big national event this past weekend. I
didn't know what the national event was like a couple
of months ago, but I do now. They had fanatics
fasts two months ago, back in July, June and July.
A lot of fomo coming from these guys here looking
at all the clips from all those things.
Speaker 4: So yeah, uh, and I know we're gonna have over
at Elite Training. We're gonna have a card show in December. Yeah,
we'll be there, so we actually, yeah, we got a
fun plan.
Speaker 6: We got a little plan happening.
Speaker 4: And he'll keep getting a large of help on that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna keep getting deeper into it, sharing with
you all at off the break l a.
Speaker 9: Need.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's no doubt. We got a couple of big
Boy cards getting graded right now. We're hoping to have
those in next week. We just got an update. They
have actually finished the grading process now and assembly now
they are in Qually Assurance check so they're gonna make
sure the typos on the slab and they're gonna ship
into us. So hopefully about next week we will be
opening and discovering what grade we get. Live here, so
I'll get to see either you know curse words, Yeah,
have the dump button ready to go, Have the dump
button ready to go, or a lot of high fiving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the old gratings like if it's the difference between
a nine nine and a half into ten. Yeah, when
you talk about these big cards. So again, we're gonna
have something in December at Elite. I think AJ is
gonna be a part of it, if I'm not mistaken.
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Speaker 5: So come join the journey with us.
Speaker 4: And be Elite. All right, let's go ahead and actually
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Speaker 6: Oh us. Yes, but the last segment.
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It is training camp time, all right, So I'm sure
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
like only champions can.
Speaker 3: You'll buy yourself up.
Speaker 4: That's clean your head feels time, look down.
Speaker 3: Let's try your best.
Speaker 4: Suck everything camp.
Speaker 3: Don't you go but to tell themselves your wrong way.
Speaker 2: It just takes Sometimes.
Speaker 7: We'll be just hell.
Speaker 9: An, they're all us, saund you know you're.
Speaker 3: Doing better, honor own, so don't die.
Speaker 4: Live right now, all right, Welcome back in O TV one,
O four five, ESPN baton rouge. Let's go ahead and
get you some of your questions inside to bout you
four chats, Alex says, waiting the last five minutes to
talk ball, Brah talk, Saints camp talked, l s U
camp talked free season.
Speaker 6: How to evaluate a quarterback in the preseason.
Speaker 5: I mean literally wait talk w N b A literally.
Speaker 6: Top stories, get out of here. Sometimes we talk about
the subjects people don't want to talk about, too afraid to.
They don't want to be canceled. We're not worried about it.
Mm hmmmmmm.
Speaker 4: Murder Draft says he's seen Jimmy World three times live.
All right, you're a record right there.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: Strange reminds me of Channel one, very strange flex.
Speaker 3: That is a strange flex. Weird flex.
Speaker 7: But okay, do they have enough for multiple times?
Speaker 6: Mm hmm yeah, m.
Speaker 3: We got a couple, but yeah, I agree. I don't
know about seeing them.
Speaker 7: How long is that ship?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: It covers forty minutes with some breaks, like how long
is that ship?
Speaker 4: This comes from Scott Dice.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I've seen this. Assa men. Should
a team implement Mike Leech's planning to throw a little
person for a touchdown?
Speaker 6: You never saw those?
Speaker 7: So this was something that he apparently proposed, uh attack
see attack or was he at Washington State?
Speaker 6: Either one.
Speaker 4: I can imagine the wax poetic about it for thirty
five minutes.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean I gave like the Leech launch, right,
is that what it's going? That's what I'm calling it?
Speaker 6: Nice. I like that. I've always kind of thought, like,
you know, what if you got like the world record
tall person, like to be on a field goal block,
like there's a guy you know, or like someone really short,
a guy really someone really want like you need a
pinch hit or someone really short to pinch.
Speaker 7: Like Florida Olivier Rue is on their basketball team. He
is seven foot nine. Florida has brought him to fall
practice to block field goals.
Speaker 6: They did that. I've been thinking of it a long time. Child.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, guess what. You can't block any field goals?
Speaker 6: Do you know why?
Speaker 7: Because Olivier Rue has an eleven inch vertical jump.
Speaker 4: Eleven How is that possible? He's pretty tall?
Speaker 2: All yeah, he.
Speaker 7: Hasn't blocked one yet in practice.
Speaker 5: Ask the bench.
Speaker 4: Does it make y'all just as mad when people say
LSU gets hyped up every year to suck when they've
won three Natties since two thousand. They've won three since
two thousand and three, So.
Speaker 7: You get over hyped though, Like.
Speaker 4: I understand what Quinn's asking because when I do a
national show, it's like I get that a ton like
else you Every year y'all get hyped up and then
y'all just disappoint I'm like, okay, outside of Alabama, them
in Ohio State are tied for the most national championships
last twenty five years. They cash him too.
Speaker 7: When is LSU ever preseason top.
Speaker 6: Two or right now? One and two were ninth, right, yeah, ninth,
and the like the hype has earned.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't think they're over.
Speaker 6: The hype around Nussmeyer and the receivers is earned. It's
not like now arch Manning hype. That's the hype train
right there. This hadn't been earned yet.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the thing. Like Georgia and Texas are the
top two in the pole and they're breaking in Brandy QB. Right,
that would be a little bit of a stretch not.
Speaker 6: I mean even coming out of SEC media days, like
the media didn't even pick LSU to be in the
championship game that fourth, right, I don't know, dude, Like
we feel confident because that we're good. Hype train's probably
pretty just accurate right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like.
Speaker 7: We're nervous about the first time properly rated.
Speaker 6: That's properly yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean you do have like JD Pikel saying he's
picking LSU to win the Natty and then who who
did you? Bill Bender did as well Connor, and like,
I mean it's definitely possible if you have something like
Garrett I gotta.
Speaker 4: Get after my guy. Connor. He's like, he's like, why
why would Brian Kelly all the DEAs Valley Junior? Like
that just makes me wonder my pick I said Connor,
y'all love when Steve Spurrier did it. You love when
Lane Kiffin does it, Like why is it a problem
when Brian Kelly does it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Like that's what everybody loves about Steve Spurrier because he
would say things like that and everybody would laugh. You
can't spell Citrus Bowl without ut. They're talking about Tennessee
like he called Florida.
Speaker 6: Some people are just naturally funny and can like get
away with things when.
Speaker 4: They're Everybody loves when they do it. But if we don't,
if we don't think you can, you can't. That's not
really how that works, right.
Speaker 6: I think it's all in the.
Speaker 8: Plaine Devil's advocate, because I agree with you, but Plaine
Devil's advocate.
Speaker 3: I think it's in the fact that, like Brian.
Speaker 8: Kelly has not won a season opener, so it's like,
if you go to Clemson, you better win it.
Speaker 3: After saying that little.
Speaker 6: Death Valley, they wait to dominate. I love you guys later.
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