Speaker 1: Green socientaious everyone in trich Wilson much a Fantasy Baseball Live.
Speaker 1: Today is the twenty first of December, about three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. As always, I'm here with my good
Speaker 1: friend and the snowed in mister Timca. Tim, You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be snowed in the Canada. You guys are
Speaker 1: supposed to have the best snow removal. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you don't have it, who has the best snow removal?
Speaker 2: I have no idea, Rich, but right now I can
Speaker 2: tell you the sled dog training program I'm taking is
Speaker 2: working well.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you had a freak warmed up. You were
Speaker 1: telling me that it rained, then it froze, and then
Speaker 1: it got six or eight inches of dump snow on
Speaker 1: top of that and everything just turned into a mess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and forty mile an hour winds. Yeah. Our National
Speaker 2: Highway right now has been shut down for oh, twelve
Speaker 2: plus hours, and they don't think they'll get it open today.
Speaker 2: So there's our the trucking industry, the whole niney It's
Speaker 2: just it's just a mess, a total mess. But hey,
Speaker 2: thankfully I haven't heard of too many serious injuries. Just
Speaker 2: a lot of trucks, jackknifing and sitting in the middle
Speaker 2: of highways and it's just glare ice. So anything over
Speaker 2: about twenty five thirty miles an hour, you got no
Speaker 2: control at all. So the best, the best thing to
Speaker 2: do is just stay off the roads with something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh good, you stay off the road, talk baseball with me,
Speaker 1: that's what you can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah that works, that works real well. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: So my draft is coming up soon, about ten days.
Speaker 1: I haven't signed up for yet, but I will, and
Speaker 1: I've got to get finished up my draft targets. Hopefully
Speaker 1: i'll get short stuffed out this evening. But you're in
Speaker 1: the middle of a draft. It might even be finished.
Speaker 1: And you told us a little bit about it last week.
Speaker 1: Do you have an update on that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It it wrapped up on Friday. Wow, So mas
Speaker 2: wat went at a good base. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's less than two weeks. That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, I don't know where we left off,
Speaker 2: but basically the second half of the draft, I filled
Speaker 2: in a lot of holes. We filled in a lot
Speaker 2: of holes and took some interesting I think prospects and.
Speaker 1: Tell us about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but where'd we leave off? Did we make it
Speaker 2: as far as ten.
Speaker 1: Do you think you made you made it to ten?
Speaker 2: Okay? Ten? Well, from from there we took Nicolodolo and eleven.
Speaker 2: Dylan Cruz in twelve.
Speaker 1: Yep, you told us about that, so maybe it was twelve.
Speaker 2: Sel Stewart in thirteen.
Speaker 1: Oh good. Yeah. You think he's going to get enough
Speaker 1: playing time in Cincinnati?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that between Stuart and Steer, the two
Speaker 2: of them are going to share first base DH And
Speaker 2: I'm rather bullish on Stewart. I like the skills and
Speaker 2: I think he's going to get the opportunities. So went
Speaker 2: maybe a bit early on Stuart. But I like the players.
Speaker 2: So with this group, if you don't move a little
Speaker 2: bit early oz of him falling late, it's a sharp group.
Speaker 2: Rich and yeah, you're best off to go around early
Speaker 2: as compared to taking the chance if the players you know,
Speaker 2: that important to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I like Sal Stewart. I think
Speaker 1: interesting to see how much power he's going to have.
Speaker 1: He could definitely hit. And I mean he was my
Speaker 1: number one he is my number one prospect for the Reds.
Speaker 1: So I like him. We'll say, and third base or
Speaker 1: first base? Do you think he's going to play first,
Speaker 1: and that's what they've announced.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's what that's what they're showing. And I think
Speaker 2: that's the preferred position.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's not a great third basement, that's for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: he got a fifteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was thirteen. Fourteen was our first attempt at
Speaker 2: a closer Danny Palencia in Chicago the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Okay, fifteen.
Speaker 2: We went with boring old Auto Lopez as our middle
Speaker 2: infielder ground fifteen. I think we'll get fifteen to fifteen
Speaker 2: out of him.
Speaker 1: Yep, you like yourself, Auto Lopez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. He's playing for Team Canada too, so again,
Speaker 2: and you gotta gotta have at least one Canadian, one
Speaker 2: NPV and one KBO player on my teams.
Speaker 1: It's a Speaking of Canadians, there was a great interview
Speaker 1: with Tongue and the Mets picture and Jonah Toong and
Speaker 1: he was talking about very Canadians, I mean talking about
Speaker 1: his favorite sandwich, which is grilled cheese, marble grilled cheese,
Speaker 1: buttered on both sides, butter in the pants. Yes, then
Speaker 1: you have to then you cut. Then you have to
Speaker 1: cut the the into wedges or actually strips, like cut
Speaker 1: the grilled cheese sandwich into strips, get an only Canadian syrup,
Speaker 1: that's it, Canadian syrup into a little container and you
Speaker 1: dip the grilled cheese into and he just went on
Speaker 1: and on how it was the best thing. So he
Speaker 1: is real, he's mister Canadian.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing he's missing is adding half a
Speaker 2: pound of bacon and it would be a lock. But yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely the marble cheese and butter on all four sides.
Speaker 2: It's you got So it's.
Speaker 1: Marble cheese a thing in Canada and that that that
Speaker 1: really yeah, because marble cheese is not all that popular here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a Kolby jack you know.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, I know what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: But you approve of dipping it in maple syrup only
Speaker 1: Canadian maple sp' Is that not the Vermont crap?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, no. I I would definitely sit down to
Speaker 2: supper with join the time we we do well, we
Speaker 2: could dine. It finds fine I style.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. It was an impressive interview. He's an
Speaker 1: oppressive young man, I mean, speaks very well. I'm very confident,
Speaker 1: and it was it was really good. But I thought
Speaker 1: the the brill cheese scenario was as good as him
Speaker 1: talking about pitching. So all right, all right, so we
Speaker 1: got fourteen. Who you got a fifteen?
Speaker 2: Okay? At fifteen was Lopez. At sixteen one was Andrew Abbott.
Speaker 2: We took him as our fourth starter. Okay, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm okay with Abbot as a number four starter.
Speaker 1: Remind us what your first three starters are?
Speaker 2: Okay? Nick Ladola was three, Woodrooff was two, and Brian
Speaker 2: wu is our ace.
Speaker 1: Love the Woodrooff, Love the Woodroff pick. So you know
Speaker 1: that's it's it's uh, I mean, you don't have the
Speaker 1: real anchor ace there, but I mean, woo, if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: he can be very very good. So I like that.
Speaker 1: So I had sound steward of thirteen oh plenty at fourteen,
Speaker 1: all right, I were thirteen? Okay, all right, So you
Speaker 1: got seventeen up to seventeen.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, seventeen eighteen seventeen. I just said, it's getting
Speaker 2: to be that time. And Robbie Snelling we.
Speaker 1: Took as good for you. Oh, I love that pick.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to didn't want to wait on that
Speaker 2: one at all. Came back with our next pick at
Speaker 2: eighteen one with O'Brien from Saint Louis, our second stab
Speaker 2: at saves. You think he's going to get a chance, Well,
Speaker 2: they they haven't signed anybody. Kenley Jensen has signed with Detroit. Uh,
Speaker 2: that's who I was a bit concerned about. So right
Speaker 2: now I think he's got i'll say a sixty forty
Speaker 2: chance at breaking camp as a closer. If the Saint
Speaker 2: Louis doesn't bring anybody in that. You know, each and
Speaker 2: every day that passes and somebody signs somewhere else is
Speaker 2: a good sign for a picture leg O'Brien and and you.
Speaker 1: Know, the Cardinals keep talking about rebuilding, and if I
Speaker 1: guess if there's discussions with the Mets about moving a
Speaker 1: ton of their guys for a bunch of the young
Speaker 1: Mets guys, So I guess if that happens, then it's
Speaker 1: even a better shot that he comes out of camp
Speaker 1: as the closer.
Speaker 2: Well, we were down to for options. We were down
Speaker 2: to the two that went right after O'Brien. The next
Speaker 2: pick was you said, in Tampa Bay, and two picks
Speaker 2: later it was Ronnie and Riquez from Miami. So that's
Speaker 2: what we're down to. So I was happy to get O'Brien.
Speaker 1: So Ryan O'Brien's sick. A look at his stuff real quick.
Speaker 1: It is Ryan, right, Yes, Ryan O'Brien kind of rings.
Speaker 1: I can't find him.
Speaker 2: That's heard.
Speaker 1: O'Riley O'Brien.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Riley, Sorry, sorry, I'm bad. Yeah, Riley not Ryan, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Riley Riley Brian.
Speaker 1: Okay, So throws really hard. Mm hmm, fastball, sits ninety
Speaker 1: eight miles an hour, huge extension on it, some extension
Speaker 1: on it. Slider, curveball, so he's yeah, slider, curveball, sinker,
Speaker 1: so it's a sinker that's going away from gloveside batters.
Speaker 1: So man, the sliders at ninety miles an hour. He
Speaker 1: throws hard. Does this trink him? Ton of guys? But
Speaker 1: he throws hard well.
Speaker 2: At this stage of the draft, we figured he was
Speaker 2: the he was the best option. Yeah, for saves, because holds.
Speaker 2: Holds aren't gonna holes aren't gonna help, except that they
Speaker 2: put you in line for saves. Assuming you're getting set up, guys, right.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see the last Tue nineteen to twenty,
Speaker 1: and then you can tell me the guys that you
Speaker 1: like at the back of the draft.
Speaker 2: Okay, nineteen, we went Cody Senger hoping for help.
Speaker 1: He dropped that far.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, he dropped that far and at twenty a
Speaker 2: player I like a lot for this year as a
Speaker 2: relief pitcher, simply because I don't fully believe in the
Speaker 2: rolled as Chapman. And that's Garrett Whitlock. We took a
Speaker 2: twenty Uh good.
Speaker 1: Why don't you fully believe in? And a roled as Chapman?
Speaker 1: How good he was last.
Speaker 2: Season because three years before that he sucked horribly and
Speaker 2: he's thirty eight years old?
Speaker 1: Okay, what's so good point?
Speaker 2: What's your point? McLeod? Yeah he's still a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, our years.
Speaker 1: Give me a couple of guys after was it thirty
Speaker 1: rounds or twenty? How many rounds were there?
Speaker 2: It was thirty? Yes, give me a.
Speaker 1: Couple of interesting guys from twenty one to thirty.
Speaker 2: Uh Parker Mezic in twenty two?
Speaker 1: Oh, okay from Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Interesting right, Moyses Bay Lasterios in round twenty three.
Speaker 1: Oh I kind of like that pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you, Hi, Son Kim of the Dodgers
Speaker 2: in the job, Yes he does. He has second base
Speaker 2: all to himself this year.
Speaker 1: That's pretty interesting to get him that late.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Robert st Vinson in twenty five another stab at Dave's.
Speaker 1: So that's what happens when you wait on saves them
Speaker 1: you wind up stabbing a bunch. So I get it.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna be playing the waiver war looking for
Speaker 1: for saves, particularly the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely Aiden Miller in twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Ah, the Philadelphia Phillies shortstops. Maybe moves to center field
Speaker 1: type thing. Because I love that pick. I love it.
Speaker 1: What round did you get.
Speaker 2: Him in twenty seven?
Speaker 1: Like it?
Speaker 2: Like it? Garrett Hey? Another stab Garrett Clevenger of the Rays.
Speaker 1: Another potential closer.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Corbyn Burns in twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Thinking he might come back.
Speaker 2: Well, he's scheduled to be back at the end of June,
Speaker 2: beginning of July. We've got enough. We stashed him on
Speaker 2: the IL okay, and there'll be a replacement pick there.
Speaker 2: And our last pick was Matt Brush and closer, uh
Speaker 2: but potentially a closer. But uh. With this league, you
Speaker 2: can make both hitting and pitching changes twice a week.
Speaker 2: So if you can get the right group of five
Speaker 2: or six closer setup guys, you can go a little
Speaker 2: bit later on the starting pitching simply because you can
Speaker 2: work the starters in the guys that are pitching Friday Saturday. Okay,
Speaker 2: you don't have to have them active Monday through Thursday.
Speaker 2: It can go with relief pitchers, right and then switch
Speaker 2: them out at the end of the week, which is
Speaker 2: part of the strategy play that we use.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Corman Burns, as everybody knows, had Tommy
Speaker 1: John surgery in early June, So yeah, June July might
Speaker 1: be a little aggressive. We'll see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the worst thing that's going to happen, as
Speaker 2: we said them on our IL, which we're going to
Speaker 2: do anyways. And with none of the Asian players who
Speaker 2: hadn't signed eligible, they're all they're all going to be
Speaker 2: out there in that first waiver wire run. So we
Speaker 2: shift Burns to the IL and hopefully pick up one
Speaker 2: of the many players that were ineligible at the draft.
Speaker 2: So and guys that win jobs, because guaranteed, even with
Speaker 2: a good group, there are going to be players winning
Speaker 2: jobs that weren't drafted. And sure, yeah, just just be
Speaker 2: very very active on that first waiver wear run. I'll
Speaker 2: probably spend six six hundred Bucks. I figure on that
Speaker 2: first waiver wear run.
Speaker 1: Give me the player out of the thirty you drafted
Speaker 1: that you're the most excited about. Doesn't matter where you
Speaker 1: drafted them. We'll make it a little later. So the
Speaker 1: guy that you field might have sneaky value.
Speaker 2: Well, Robbie Snelling, I'm I'm excited about the potential there.
Speaker 2: And again I'm going to go with Biasteros because he
Speaker 2: will allow us to to move Rice into one of
Speaker 2: our corner infield or utilities.
Speaker 1: Is he still is he still catcher eligible in the
Speaker 1: formatric playing.
Speaker 2: It no ut only?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need ten ten games, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if we'll get ten games.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to get ten games there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again I those you know, the young players
Speaker 3: with the upside are the ones that, Yeah, as much as.
Speaker 1: I like jam Miller, the one that really jumped out
Speaker 1: for me was Robbie Snelling because I mean I thought
Speaker 1: we'd see him in twenty twenty four, so he arguably
Speaker 1: was You could make an argument he was the best
Speaker 1: picture of the minor leagues last season. He plays for
Speaker 1: the right organization, So I just have to believe you're
Speaker 1: going to see him early, I hope.
Speaker 2: So because I pick like that based on what we've
Speaker 2: seen in the minors, is better agreed and such, Robbie
Speaker 2: Snelling could prove to be a real difference maker, you know,
Speaker 2: to our to our overall chances this year. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I I do a running total because this league is
Speaker 2: it's a redraft league, but it runs year to year.
Speaker 2: What I did was I set UH for all the categories,
Speaker 2: the ten counting categories. What I did was I looked
Speaker 2: at the the median, the top three number, and the
Speaker 2: high end number for every category. And as we drafted,
Speaker 2: we built around the numbers that happened last year. I
Speaker 2: don't think anything has changed in the game this year
Speaker 2: that will affect things. So I had a good you know,
Speaker 2: we had a good set of targets and we're in
Speaker 2: the median to top three range in all of them.
Speaker 2: So it I like, I like, I like what we've done.
Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: That's great. It's fun to get the first one under
Speaker 1: your belt. This we'll go to take a break and
Speaker 1: come back and let's talk about these trades and signings
Speaker 1: that occurred.
Speaker 2: There's a few.
Speaker 1: Let me start off the White Sox just signed Murakami
Speaker 1: about two hours ago, and I think it surprised everyone
Speaker 1: except for maybe Tim McCloud. I'm going to give Tim
Speaker 1: a little kudos here is everybody know Tim loves his
Speaker 1: Asian players. But we talked, and I went back and
Speaker 1: checked the podcast because I wanted to know what Tim
Speaker 1: said about Murakami. This was back on November. Let me
Speaker 1: go back to the podcast. I think it was November ninth. YEP,
Speaker 1: the November ninth podcast. About thirty second minute into it,
Speaker 1: we had a long discussion about Murakami signing and I
Speaker 1: asked him to give us a scouting. We've already told
Speaker 1: his big power, lots of strikeouts, lots of walks, which
Speaker 1: I then said, sounds like a three true outcome player.
Speaker 1: Tim goods out and then I said, look, when I
Speaker 1: write about prospects, it's always the dream is Kyle Schwarber
Speaker 1: or the nightmare is Joey Gallo. And I asked, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: where did he fall in this realm? And Tim said,
Speaker 1: to his credit, because the big teams did not grab him,
Speaker 1: it was the White Sox. Tim said, I'm worried. So
Speaker 1: Tim was a little hesitant about a team going in
Speaker 1: and signing him for eighty to one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: and given the concern about his strikeout right, And that's
Speaker 1: what it turned out to me. They listened to you
Speaker 1: because he only signed a two year deal for thirty
Speaker 1: four million dollars with the White Sox. So clear the
Speaker 1: White Sox are betting that he's going to be a
Speaker 1: little bit better than that can movement at the deadline
Speaker 1: or sometime before that. What did you think of the
Speaker 1: sign So I wanted to give you kudos because I
Speaker 1: think Major League Baseball teams were looking at Murakami very
Speaker 1: similar to the way that you were.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's definitely some concerns there, and I think
Speaker 2: with those concerns, the big spenders decided to let somebody
Speaker 2: else play the game. And to Murakami's credit, I hey,
Speaker 2: he knew the situation, okay, and he looked at a
Speaker 2: team where he will get definitely an opportunity to show
Speaker 2: off his skills. I'm sure he would have loved a
Speaker 2: five year deal, but that simply wasn't going to happen
Speaker 2: with the risks involved. Now, if things work out in
Speaker 2: a positive fashion, he'll only be twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2: As a free agent. Okay, yeah, if he goes out
Speaker 2: and has forty five home runs this year, he won't
Speaker 2: have a problem with his next contract. And thirty four
Speaker 2: million is good money. I'm happy to see the White
Speaker 2: Sox got into the game. You know. Hey, it's good
Speaker 2: for their fans, you know, it's it provides some excitement
Speaker 2: to an organization struggled for a few years.
Speaker 1: So that's excited. McLeod, that's mild excitement, So I mean
Speaker 1: big excitement would have been signing Pete Alonzo.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and that's yeah, yeah, that's yeah. I hear
Speaker 2: you that that's not gonna happen yet. But all in all, hey,
Speaker 2: I think it's a good deal for Murakami. He got
Speaker 2: his contract and the clock was ticking, Okay, he only
Speaker 2: had a few more days, I believe to get something done,
Speaker 2: or else he would have been back to Japan, which
Speaker 2: he did not want. So I think I think, all
Speaker 2: things considered, I think he did well. He's got his opportunity.
Speaker 2: Now it's time time to prove that you belong and
Speaker 2: the White Sox got themselves a solid first basement. It
Speaker 2: has created a few challenges, though Lennon has had a
Speaker 2: good year last year, it looks like he has no
Speaker 2: position to play right now except maybe d h H.
Speaker 1: That's disappointing, Yes.
Speaker 2: Because Meadroth is at second base. Okay unless they I
Speaker 2: don't know what they do with with Chase mete Roth.
Speaker 2: But it's created a little bit of congestion in Chicago,
Speaker 2: and it'll be nice once we know how they plan
Speaker 2: on handling that congestion. Yeah, Quorra was scheduled to be
Speaker 2: their DH. Well, now Lennon So's is on the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's some questions that need answering.
Speaker 1: So let me ask a question. Can can you check
Speaker 1: where Mirror Kami went and your draft you just completed.
Speaker 2: He didn't go because he was not eligible. He's one
Speaker 2: of those players. Yes, the waiver wire. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: You can only pick a guy after he's had one
Speaker 1: third of a bat or won any pitch, so pitch
Speaker 1: or one at bat. That's I knew I'd get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's with that's that. Anybody who has not signed
Speaker 2: a major league contract or a member of a major
Speaker 2: league team was ineligible at the draft. So Cody Ponce
Speaker 2: is in, Andrew am I Okamoto, the whole, that whole
Speaker 2: group coming back or coming to from Asia. They're all
Speaker 2: first week wire zero options.
Speaker 1: So let me let me So I'm looking at the NFC,
Speaker 1: he's going as pick two thirty two. That's all drafts.
Speaker 1: Let mean this, So that's the sixteenth round. Do you
Speaker 1: think that goes up or down based on him signing
Speaker 1: or pretty much stays about the same.
Speaker 2: I think it might go up a bit, okay, because
Speaker 2: there's always a concern when you're looking at like an
Speaker 2: NFBC type draft, if he doesn't sign, he goes back
Speaker 2: to Japan and you lose that pick. So I think
Speaker 2: that weighs a little bit into the process. I've marginally
Speaker 2: he might go up, but I see him as a uh,
Speaker 2: mid teens, mid to maybe early teens sort of sort
Speaker 2: of pick. I don't think you need to go any
Speaker 2: earlier than that. It'll be interesting to see where sites
Speaker 2: list him, because right now on CBS he's only listed
Speaker 2: at third base.
Speaker 1: That's where he's listed at the NFBC as well. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I just did draft Champions Leagues and
Speaker 1: he's going in the sixteenth round, so it goes up
Speaker 1: a little bit. So if you think he's an early
Speaker 1: teens that's you know you'll be able to get him
Speaker 1: at least at the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I early to mid teens. I think he's in
Speaker 2: about the right area. The guy who's going to be
Speaker 2: a bargain assuming he signs is Okamortal.
Speaker 1: I think he's in that same podcast you talked about
Speaker 1: him like you more than you did Murakami.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the overall hit tool is better and
Speaker 2: he's not getting much engine simply because Murakami's Yeah, hey
Speaker 2: chick stick dig DeLong, Well, what can you say? He
Speaker 2: had fifty six of them for a couple of years back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the power that our potential is huge, But the overall
Speaker 2: hit tool from Okamoro is very very good. I he's
Speaker 2: a player that I'm going to be targeting in a
Speaker 2: lot of leagues moving forward.
Speaker 1: I just I'm anxious to see the baseball sleavant data
Speaker 1: breakdown and once we have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: little bit of swings and I want to find out
Speaker 1: how hard he really swings and what his ex and
Speaker 1: velocities are. But yeah, I mean I'm always hesitant about
Speaker 1: all of those Asian players.
Speaker 2: Become less so with pictures pictures, Yeah, hey, if you
Speaker 2: can throw the ball, ninety five miles an hour and
Speaker 2: you've got good control over it. It's not going to change.
Speaker 2: Moving from Japan, Okay to North America, hitting is a
Speaker 2: whole different, a whole different, a whole different game. And
Speaker 2: again you're looking at six man rotation and your ace
Speaker 2: or top one to two on. All of the Japanese
Speaker 2: teams are all very very good pitchers and can all
Speaker 2: pitch at the major league level with no issues. But three, four, five,
Speaker 2: and six is not quite the same as it is
Speaker 2: in North America. I think hitters are overvalued, and that's
Speaker 2: one of the reasons that I I have the same
Speaker 2: concerns you do I have. I have virtually no concerns
Speaker 2: when it comes to pitching for the most part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I always say, but I have less
Speaker 1: concerns with pitching. And look, I mean it turned out
Speaker 1: that Otani was better than anybody thought. I mean, but
Speaker 1: I think to use him as a benchmark, it's not fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's you know, amazing, so and it's.
Speaker 2: Let's use each of the same with the age roll.
Speaker 2: Let's use him as a benchmark, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't do that. I Mean, it's just
Speaker 1: these certain players are just saying they break the mold.
Speaker 1: Then you know it's it's you know, it's it's always
Speaker 1: a kid when you graded on the curve when you
Speaker 1: were in school, and it was always the one kid
Speaker 1: that still got an A and broke the curve, and
Speaker 1: nobody else was able to get a good grade because
Speaker 1: he or she still still did well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cheated and we didn't exactly.
Speaker 1: Timmy, let's move on. We get a couple of trades.
Speaker 1: I encourage your many Joey's out of the Patreon site
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Speaker 1: Prospect through sixty one. I wrote about a thousand words
Speaker 1: on each and it's hard to write and it's hard
Speaker 1: to say. The following sentence, The Pirates acquired a player,
Speaker 1: tim they traded for. They traded for a pretty good
Speaker 1: player and Brandon Low complicated three way trade, the Pirates
Speaker 1: raising Astros. The Pirates got Brandon Low, they got Jake
Speaker 1: Mangum and left haingd a picture. Mason Montgomery can throw
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. Tampa Bay receives Jacob melt
Speaker 1: Send and Andrew Brito, and the Astros get the head
Speaker 1: Scratcher and Mike Burrows. So they see something in Mike
Speaker 1: Burrows that, Uh, I guess he's got five years of
Speaker 1: team controls and maybe that's it. I don't know, to
Speaker 1: be break the trade down for our listeners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I think the Pirates did very well. I'm
Speaker 2: having a hard time saying that.
Speaker 1: I agree. It's hard to say that, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a handful. But I I
Speaker 2: like what. I like what they did. They got themselves,
Speaker 2: you know, a potential lead off that and Mangum okay,
Speaker 2: a good solid player and hey, number two hitter in
Speaker 2: Brendon Loud to go with Brian Reynolds and yeah, it
Speaker 2: it yeah, it's it's a solid trade for the for
Speaker 2: the Pirates, the Rays. It moving Brandon Lowe. That opens
Speaker 2: up an opportunity possibly for Carson Williams. Dare I say,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean a guy can't can't hit. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a great defender and you know, so I would think
Speaker 1: he'd be your shortstop and that's that's how they would
Speaker 1: go to war and in Tampa. But I mean Timmy,
Speaker 1: I mean he strikes out. It's it's frightening how much
Speaker 1: he strikes out.
Speaker 2: Well, they're talking, you know, looking at roster resource. They've
Speaker 2: got Taylor Walls now moving to second base, and.
Speaker 1: Do they have they have Williams at shortstop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that makes sense to me. Taylor wall is
Speaker 1: also a very good shortstop. But Williams is exceptional. I mean,
Speaker 1: that guy could be you know, gold glove kind of
Speaker 1: performer there. But he can't hit. He can't hit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, though he's gonna he's gonna be moving on
Speaker 2: up in drafts. I would think Williams is yeah, Williams, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Carson Williams is definitely going to take a tick. I
Speaker 2: take up words Chandler Simpson in the lead off role.
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my, oh my, it's a right spot
Speaker 2: for him. But yeah, we've gone through that whole scenario.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's still a last place club, but they'll be better
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: I like what they did. You know. It's the thing
Speaker 1: that bothered me with the trade. It's it's something really
Speaker 1: really small. I read I think it was Keith Rosenthal
Speaker 1: articles buried at the very end of the article and
Speaker 1: they were talking about Brandon Lowe going to no Jake
Speaker 1: Mangum going to the same high school as Connor Griffin
Speaker 1: and did that. And apparently Jake Manngum as one of
Speaker 1: those clubhouse guys. Everybody loves the guy and this was
Speaker 1: was that part of the reason that you brought him
Speaker 1: in because you know he had this relationship. Apparently they
Speaker 1: trained in the off season. They're not best friends, but
Speaker 1: they're they're friendly with each other. And I quote what
Speaker 1: Ken rosen Thaal said. They said, no, didn't play a
Speaker 1: role at all because we didn't even know that was
Speaker 1: going on. We didn't even know they went to the
Speaker 1: same high school. We didn't even know that they were friends.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what kind of organization doesn't have some intern
Speaker 1: that's running that stuff down? Demmy, don't you have to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: Uh? Not in Pittsburgh apparently.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's little, and I know it's
Speaker 1: kind of silly, but I mean, would you know everything
Speaker 1: down to what he was doing in fifth grade and
Speaker 1: you know all of that stuff?
Speaker 2: I would because Conye Griffins, he's obviously the best prospect
Speaker 2: in the game, right yes or yeah? So if he's
Speaker 2: the top project, Yeah, you would know what he has
Speaker 2: for breakfast each and every day of the week. Can
Speaker 2: you know you know everything, you know, his friends, his
Speaker 2: social circles, if you'd be tapped into his Facebook, as
Speaker 2: Twitter and every you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are things you should know.
Speaker 1: You should know. And the fact that they admit that
Speaker 1: they didn't know it. Now, maybe they would have said
Speaker 1: if they would have known it, and look, we don't
Speaker 1: know if that's going to make a difference, but you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt. But the fact that they acknowledged we
Speaker 1: didn't even know that, it's like really.
Speaker 2: Like wow, it's very Pittsburgish of them.
Speaker 1: Is so I like what the Pirates did? I think
Speaker 1: the more I'm hearing under the kind of the radar
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is kind of Griffin fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: chants that he breaks camp with the Pirates and as
Speaker 1: their opening day either Shortstop or second Basement, and if not,
Speaker 1: it's going to be really soon.
Speaker 2: Well they got to do something to try and ap
Speaker 2: piece ball Skimes, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same problem that Detroit had with
Speaker 1: Trek Scouble. I mean, you got potentially a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame talented guy sitting there in schooble and and skiings,
Speaker 1: and you you got to try to win when they're there.
Speaker 2: Yes, you do, because God, yeah, once they're gone, they
Speaker 2: are gone. They're not coming back. Mason Montgomery is interesting too,
Speaker 2: because you know, you look at the Pirates Bullpen, I
Speaker 2: could see the possibility for Montgomery possibly working his way
Speaker 2: into the ninth inning. He's got the you know, he's
Speaker 2: got the skills, he's got the stuff.
Speaker 1: He's got the doesn't have a he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: I mean, he does have some pretty ugly platoon splits,
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate platoon splits against right handed hitters. But
Speaker 1: I mean, so he is a lefty killer, but I
Speaker 1: mean it's got said nasty fastball slider. Absolutely. Now, so
Speaker 1: you look at you look at the data looks great,
Speaker 1: but he just he just right handed hitters. He just
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything for.
Speaker 2: Him, right. Yeah. So all in all, like I said,
Speaker 2: I the big question mark is what do the what
Speaker 2: do the astros uh seeing Mike Burrows, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, but if if, if we before we get
Speaker 1: off of Pittsburgh, I just I'm not buying the fact
Speaker 1: that Nick Gonzalez, that Sproster resource has hasn't breaking camp
Speaker 1: as the shortstop. I I just don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that. I think Nick Gonzales is uh, you know,
Speaker 1: as a backup all all around, and I think Connor
Speaker 1: Griffin is the guy they're going to go to war with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is, until they make the announcement,
Speaker 2: we have to live with what's currently the obvious. But
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it is the obvious, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: It's yeah, don't don't overdraft Nick Gonzales.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't todgiment All, to be honest with you, Yep.
Speaker 2: I just stay away from him, yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting. Mike Burrows is the you know what, what
Speaker 1: do the astros seeing Mike Burrows? And it's a bit
Speaker 1: of a head scratcher. I mean he's got a decent arm.
Speaker 1: He throws, kind of throws strikes. I don't know, Timmy,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think they see them?
Speaker 2: I I have no idea. I don't know that much
Speaker 2: about Mike Burrows. I I really don't. But looking at
Speaker 2: the astros rotation, Uh, it's got some holes they got
Speaker 2: they got they got some holes to fill. And you know,
Speaker 2: you look at his you look at his record last
Speaker 2: year me on ninety six innings, it was decent. Three
Speaker 2: ninety ninety seven strikes, ninety six innings pitched. The walk
Speaker 2: rate was a little high, but not bad. Uh Yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously they're they're looking to shore up, shore up their
Speaker 2: rotation and betting that he can he can make a difference.
Speaker 2: And when you look at their you know, Houston's four
Speaker 2: or five. Yeah, they did get an upgrade. But does
Speaker 2: it say to you at the same point in time
Speaker 2: that starting pitching is so tough, that's the best. That's
Speaker 2: the best they could get out of that situation.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm guessing they also think they're not going
Speaker 1: to resign framber Valdez. I don't think ramber Valdis is signed.
Speaker 2: Has he? Uh No, he's still out there. But right
Speaker 2: now they've got Burrows as their number four, and they've
Speaker 2: got the kid coming back from Asia, Ryan Wis, who
Speaker 2: pitched in Korea. They got him as their number five.
Speaker 2: They got Lance McCullers as they're three in Christian Havevier
Speaker 2: who's not gonna be pitching, who knows when he's gonna
Speaker 2: pitch as their number two. Basically, they got Hunter Brown
Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of prayers. That's the rotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, look Mike Burrows. I'll just
Speaker 1: tell people what I wrote to our Patreon members. Fastball
Speaker 1: really good change up. He doesn't have a picture, doesn't
Speaker 1: have a pitch against armside hitters, which are right handed hitters,
Speaker 1: which is not good. And there's some splits that are
Speaker 1: sitting there. So maybe they can get him a better slider.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did read that they're going to
Speaker 1: move them to a two seamer, which doesn't get a
Speaker 1: ton of movement off of his four seamer, so maybe
Speaker 1: that that'll help. I think I don't think that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I think the problem is he doesn't have a slider.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. It is a bit of a head
Speaker 1: scratcher because they do give up their top prospect with
Speaker 1: Jacob Melton and then Andrew Anderson. Brito has got a
Speaker 1: really good arm. He's a little guy, but he could
Speaker 1: throw one hundred miles an hour, so do you. But
Speaker 1: it does Jacob Melton get a shot with the Rays
Speaker 1: now there are some platoon splits there.
Speaker 2: Well, Again, my concern is Tampa Bay. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Melton is obviously going to get a shot. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be right away, but I think
Speaker 2: it'll be fair early. But again, will eraise platoon? How
Speaker 2: will it raise handle out situation? I I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: jumping all over. I mean, you gotta remember Jacob Melton.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about a twenty one to twenty two
Speaker 2: year old. He's turning twenty six this year. It's yeah,
Speaker 2: I am not saying everybody over twenty three is a bust.
Speaker 2: But how good is Jacob Milton? How good can he be?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's fast, he's got really fantasy friendly tools. Right, he's
Speaker 1: sixty runners, so there's a chance for twenty plus stole
Speaker 1: base hits the ball very hard, needs ad more leverage,
Speaker 1: but he strikes out too much. It makes really bad
Speaker 1: at swing decisions. And he can't hit lefties. So I
Speaker 1: mean that's that's the problem. So there's well some holes there,
Speaker 1: but the Rays don't mind that. They they don't mind
Speaker 1: platoony guys.
Speaker 2: Well, just to give you any a quick look at
Speaker 2: the raised situation, Chandler Simpson's a lefty okay, leading off, Uh,
Speaker 2: they've got him in left field.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: In right field is Josh Lowe, who they don't play
Speaker 2: against lefties, okay, And in centerfield they got another lefty,
Speaker 2: Cedric Bowens.
Speaker 1: Okay, it doesn't who doesn't hit lefties as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so why would why would they want to another
Speaker 2: platoon left I didn't think about.
Speaker 1: That's really good analysis.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, there their whole oatfield is lefties and platooning
Speaker 2: lefties except for maybe Simpson. Uh yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so, it's it's It just leaves me to believe
Speaker 2: that at some point in time, you know, they gonna
Speaker 2: are they gonna d h him? No, they can't because
Speaker 2: they've got and Andy Diaz, a right handed bad d
Speaker 2: h ing and they're not taking him out of the
Speaker 2: same with Miranda. Okay, who's another lefty, another lefty. The
Speaker 2: only righty's that they've got are Yandy Diaz, cam and Arrow.
Speaker 2: And then you get into Nick Forts and Carson Williams.
Speaker 2: They're they're other than the two bats. They're very, very
Speaker 2: left hitting, left hitting dominant team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, it's uh, you know, I would think
Speaker 1: that he has Jacob Melton has a chance to replace
Speaker 1: the center fielder there, Cedric Mullins, But they just signed
Speaker 1: him and he might be the most expensive guy on
Speaker 1: their team, so I could very well, maybe he gets
Speaker 1: moved at the deadline because he's only on a one
Speaker 1: year deal. And then then and then he finally gets
Speaker 1: a shot there Melton gets a shot. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not a good set up.
Speaker 2: No, he's not going to take away he's not going
Speaker 2: to take the job away from Chandler Simpson unless Simpson fails. Okay,
Speaker 2: then then who knows. And Josh Lowe is the same. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't see. I don't see Josh low going anywhere
Speaker 2: except to the bench when he's facing the same side arms.
Speaker 2: So it's it's bizarre.
Speaker 1: It's a it's actually that is very that's very good analysis, Timmy.
Speaker 1: It is. It is strange. Let's move on to the
Speaker 1: other big trade that occurred, and that's with the Orioles,
Speaker 1: and the Orioles finally get a pitcher, Timmy, and they
Speaker 1: saw they signed for a good one and that's Shane Boss.
Speaker 1: Now they gave up a lot. They're all minor leaguers
Speaker 1: in Slater de Brune, who is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: players in the class, Catcher Kayden Bodine, who was there three.
Speaker 1: They had four first round picks. He was one of them.
Speaker 1: Michael Forrett is a guy that you mentioned last week.
Speaker 1: I think as a chance to maybe break camp or
Speaker 1: at least at some point be called up. And then
Speaker 1: Austin o'verne, who's got tooled up Kenny hit enough. We
Speaker 1: don't know, but I really like o'verne as well. But
Speaker 1: the ore finally get their guy. And you know, I
Speaker 1: wrote in my note to our patron members, but what
Speaker 1: Shane Boss and Grayson Rodriguez looked really good with Taylor
Speaker 1: Rodgers and Kyle Bradist, but that's not to be.
Speaker 2: No. I think one of the things that I think
Speaker 2: we should all consider when looking at Shane base is
Speaker 2: where he pitched last year.
Speaker 1: Georgefield, yeah, he gave up most of us home runs,
Speaker 1: and George Sneinbrinerfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and moving to Baltimore. I I I'd like, Hey,
Speaker 2: it costs the Orioles a lot, but the Orioles got
Speaker 2: to do something. They had to get an arm. They
Speaker 2: paid a price for it, and based on what happened
Speaker 2: with Rogers, if they can get even half of the
Speaker 2: results from Boss as they did or have proven to
Speaker 2: have gotten last year from Rogers, that's a considerable acquisition
Speaker 2: for them right now. Where they are.
Speaker 1: Shane Boss was already a draft target of mine. I think,
Speaker 1: just to solidifize it as long as he doesn't climb
Speaker 1: too much in the rankings. I love the move. I
Speaker 1: love Shane Boss to begin with, and I was well
Speaker 1: aware of the problems he had pitching. And again, Steinbrennerfield
Speaker 1: is not a good place for any pitcher to go,
Speaker 1: particularly right handed pitchers, right, and that's what Shane Boss
Speaker 1: has got destroyed there. I love the acquisition by the Orioles.
Speaker 1: They love the acquisition for fantasy managers. Look Slater to
Speaker 1: Brune and came bowdeye, they could all turn into something,
Speaker 1: but it's not going to be for two or three years.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the short term impact is probably for it, right.
Speaker 1: For it would be the guy the other guys with
Speaker 1: de Brun is an eighteen year old kid, right, so
Speaker 1: he's three to four years away, but he could be
Speaker 1: really really interesting and overn and Bodine's probably the next guy,
Speaker 1: but he's probably twenty twenty seven than over think it
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty eight. I mean so, I mean the
Speaker 1: Orioles said they'ren win now mode, so that's why they made.
Speaker 2: The move exactly.
Speaker 1: Yep. Anything else to say about that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not really, except my biggest concern for you personally,
Speaker 2: Rich is that he rises a little quicker than you'd like.
Speaker 1: Oh really from a ADP standpoint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely he's going to be heading in
Speaker 2: the upward direction. It'll take a week or two to
Speaker 2: find out how high and how quick, but he will
Speaker 2: move up. There is no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd liked I would have eagerly liked them in Tampa, though,
Speaker 1: I mean because they they're back in the Tropicana at
Speaker 1: least it's going to be called But I mean he is, uh,
Speaker 1: he's eighty third off the board. So you figured there's
Speaker 1: probably about twenty closers at that juncture. Since sixty thirty
Speaker 1: was going as a four starter, gimme, gimme, gimme, Tim would.
Speaker 2: Say yes, as a number four, definitely, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: He might he might be going as a number three.
Speaker 1: Now, okay with that, Okay, with that last information thing
Speaker 1: I have here is Michael King signed back with the
Speaker 1: Padres three years and seventy five million dollars as an
Speaker 1: opt out after each year. I thought this was curious
Speaker 1: because the Padres were saying they were trying to ship
Speaker 1: some payroll to get a little bit younger, and then
Speaker 1: they signed Michael King.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, they did have to have
Speaker 2: some pitching, didn't they this year? Yeah? Yeah, when you
Speaker 2: when you look at what they were sitting with, Okay,
Speaker 2: prior to the King signing, Nick Pivetta, Joe Musgrove, Randy Vasquez,
Speaker 2: JP Sears. Yeah, that's that's not a playoff. You know,
Speaker 2: he had Michael King. That makes that help.
Speaker 1: It's definitely definitely helps. And he said back to back
Speaker 1: Tommy John surgeries.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, I was going to say, I don't
Speaker 2: know what they're expecting from Joe Musgrove, but I know
Speaker 2: my expectations would be basically anything above zero is you know, hey,
Speaker 2: Matt Waldron and Kyle Harder and end up starting a
Speaker 2: fair number of games. And they also they.
Speaker 1: Have nothing in the minor leagues. Though they have nothing
Speaker 1: in the minor leagus to come help him anytime soon.
Speaker 2: Tristan mackenzie is there, Remember our good friend Tristan McKennon.
Speaker 1: That's why they did sign him.
Speaker 2: So as an NRI.
Speaker 1: But yep, yep, talk to me about sun Moon Song.
Speaker 1: He was posted and they signed him, and let me
Speaker 1: just give everybody what I read last year thirty fifteen
Speaker 1: batting average, a three eighty seven on base percentage, a
Speaker 1: five point thirty slash line. He had twenty six hour
Speaker 1: runs and twenty five stolen bases in the KBO. Like
Speaker 1: the number, Tell me if this is real, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Ah? Well, it was real, he did it. But now
Speaker 2: the transformation, I think he has the potential to put
Speaker 2: up a comparable season to what Otto Lopez did last
Speaker 2: year with a better batting average OBP. I'm going I'm
Speaker 2: thinking fifteen fifteen, two seventy five, three forty five. And
Speaker 2: it looks like they're gonna play him at second base, Okay,
Speaker 2: he can also play third base and move Croninworth to first.
Speaker 2: I think as a middle infielder, I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: be okay. When you look at his numbers, there's a
Speaker 2: big uptick in the past two years. He early in
Speaker 2: his career, he took his two years of military commitment
Speaker 2: and went through them, and that affected his development and
Speaker 2: he really started getting serious about his game in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty twenty four. I think he's going to
Speaker 2: be a solid middle infielder. Assuming San Diego gives him
Speaker 2: that opportunity and for thirteen mil on a three year deal.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they give him the opportunity would be my question.
Speaker 2: They kind of hitting in the nice spot right now.
Speaker 2: Who are they going to play at second base?
Speaker 1: Timmy, I don't see him at all in the draft
Speaker 1: chart here at in NFBC. I don't think he's been
Speaker 1: drafted yet.
Speaker 2: Quite possibly, quite possibly.
Speaker 1: Not unless I'm misspelling this name.
Speaker 2: That song, yeah, son g or type in sun Moon.
Speaker 1: Nothing, Oh, I got pitching up my bat.
Speaker 2: I would think he'd be in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hayden birds all there, this sun Moon song been
Speaker 1: drafted in twenty four out of the more than that league,
Speaker 1: six sixty six. The sign of the table, Timmy, Do
Speaker 1: I take the sign of the draft?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what, if you're looking for a middle
Speaker 2: endfielder with fifteen to fifteen potential in a decent batting
Speaker 2: average and or OBP, I think he'll deliver to that level.
Speaker 2: Is he going to be a star, No, But I
Speaker 2: think he could be a solid player in deeper leagues,
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't totally I wouldn't totally ignore him, not
Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination. His ops the past
Speaker 2: two years, nine twenty seven, nine seventeen. Okay, he takes
Speaker 2: a walk, he doesn't strike out to the tune of
Speaker 2: big numbers, and you know we're looking at a twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty one and a twenty six, twenty five home
Speaker 2: run stolen based numbers the past two years. I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be an okay player, not a star,
Speaker 2: but in fifteen team leagues, I think he's going to
Speaker 2: be okay.
Speaker 1: And it looks like he is listed as a third basement.
Speaker 1: So there you have it to me to take a
Speaker 1: break it back and let's talk first basement, shall we?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we shall.
Speaker 1: Okay. We last week we did catcher rankings. This week
Speaker 1: we are doing first base rankings. How would you compare
Speaker 1: the two positions?
Speaker 2: Well, and the one position is behind home plate, okay,
Speaker 2: the others.
Speaker 1: I gave you a pity rim shot on that, so
Speaker 1: obviously a little bit more impact. I think at first
Speaker 1: base it was a catching What what's your thought? You know,
Speaker 1: you talked about wanting to get one of the one
Speaker 1: of the big catchers last week and then maybe waiting
Speaker 1: on the second one. What are you thinking about with
Speaker 1: first base?
Speaker 2: I want a top ten for I'm one of the
Speaker 2: guys from the top ten. When I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: corner enfield, you know, first, first, third, you got to
Speaker 2: come out of that. I think with fifty fifty years,
Speaker 2: strive for fifty plus home runs. Okay, it's a huge
Speaker 2: source of power. If you go late on first base, Okay,
Speaker 2: then you start looking at players like Christian Walker with
Speaker 2: a betting average concern, Spencer Turkulsen, same thing, betting average concern,
Speaker 2: Yandy Diaz. There's a power concern there, okay, as there
Speaker 2: should be there are. It gets tougher and tougher without
Speaker 2: one of those top ten to amass enough numbers at
Speaker 2: the corner too, I think get you to your targets. Now, hey,
Speaker 2: if you if you've got Otawani or Judge, that changes
Speaker 2: to the metrics a little bit. But for the most part,
Speaker 2: I think you need one of those thirty plus home
Speaker 2: run bats and a twenty twenty plus at your corner
Speaker 2: infield position.
Speaker 1: So you did Rice and south Stewart correct.
Speaker 2: That is correct? Yes, And you.
Speaker 1: Think you got close to fifty.
Speaker 2: There, well, yeah, I think I think we're going to
Speaker 2: be over we also we also have Josh Bell, Andrew Baugh,
Speaker 2: and I started like Josh Bell now that he's in
Speaker 2: Minnesota hitting in the three hole. So I've what we
Speaker 2: don't have in a big name other than Ben Rice
Speaker 2: whoeverybody figures is going to hit fifty. We've got some,
Speaker 2: We've got some quantity we can throw out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just just I have to give my thoughts
Speaker 1: on Josh Bell because I have owned him for years.
Speaker 1: He will do all of his damage. It's see, there's
Speaker 1: twenty six weeks in the season. In three and a half.
Speaker 2: Weeks, that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might hit fifteen on runs Timmy, but it's
Speaker 1: literally all going to be in three weeks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: never know which three weeks are going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got Andrew Vaughn as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right to me, I first of all, proud
Speaker 1: of you for putting Blad Junior first and then going
Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: The NFC has got him flipped releast that's where the
Speaker 1: dp's are going. I just I don't understand that. I mean,
Speaker 1: Blad Junior won, Nick Kurtz two, Pete Alonzo three, Matt
Speaker 1: Olsen for very past. Quentina of nyp up five from
Speaker 1: where ten things is going tenth. This is the NFBC.
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper six, Freddie Freeman seven, A Ruffel Devers eight,
Speaker 1: Ben Rice nine. Boo should be higher, Michael Bush ten. Yes,
Speaker 1: tell me Nick, talk to me once again about Nick
Speaker 1: Kurtz worth the first round pick. Are you worried about
Speaker 1: him going too early? Where would you draft him if
Speaker 1: he was on the board.
Speaker 2: I would draft him at the wheel fifteen, sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 2: somewhere in there.
Speaker 1: I'm buying a first round pick.
Speaker 2: Then I'm buying a first round pick. But I would
Speaker 2: rather have Ladd Junior than Kurts.
Speaker 1: And the reason be more experienced, more more track record.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, as I put in my narrative, Okay, he
Speaker 2: might not have the gouttiest home run totals or the
Speaker 2: highest RBI numbers, but the overall package provides a safe,
Speaker 2: solid floor in which to lead both the Jays and
Speaker 2: your fantasy squadron chasing a title. I just feel a
Speaker 2: little bit more uh content. I think it's I think
Speaker 2: it's a safer pick. Okay, not that I think Nick
Speaker 2: Kurtz is going to hit fifteen home runs this year
Speaker 2: and struggle I don't. But if I have a choice
Speaker 2: between the two at their lofty positions, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with I'm gonna go with Lad Junior. I just think
Speaker 2: it's a smarter, safer pick.
Speaker 1: If you take a look at the data between the two,
Speaker 1: Vlad Junior and Nick Kurtz hit the ball just about
Speaker 1: as hard as one another. The difference is Nick Kurtz
Speaker 1: has a fifteen degree launch and Blad Junior has a
Speaker 1: seven degree launch. Yes, so if Vlad Junior ever decides
Speaker 1: that a little leverage to his swing, he could be
Speaker 1: up there with all the big boys. He just has
Speaker 1: chosen not to. But they're still twenty five to thirty
Speaker 1: home run pop there, and he's obviously a better hitter
Speaker 1: than Nick Kurtz.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt the Lad Junior is a better hitter.
Speaker 2: And hey, if Vlad wanted, well, we've seen what he
Speaker 2: can do to a baseball, okay, And I believe if
Speaker 2: he wanted to adjust his game to where he is
Speaker 2: hitting forty home runs, I have no doubt he could
Speaker 2: do it. He doesn't have to, and it's not beneficial
Speaker 2: for his team to take that approach. That's that's my take.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I agree it'll be interesting. Nick Kurtz is
Speaker 1: a fascinating guy. I do think the power is real.
Speaker 1: I think if he continues to have a very highly
Speaker 1: leveraged swing, and we'll see how much he hits. I
Speaker 1: think if you decide to go with him at the wheel,
Speaker 1: just know your parameters. Know that it can come with
Speaker 1: a two thirty batting average.
Speaker 2: Well exactly. Yeah, And I would be shocked if Vlad
Speaker 2: Ever puts up to thirty batting average.
Speaker 1: Would shocked, Yeah, that would be yeah. I would agree
Speaker 1: that an investigation would have to be done there. Vinny P,
Speaker 1: he's gone to the NBC and pick ten, you've got
Speaker 1: him at five.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I when I started looking at some of the
Speaker 2: players that could have been ahead of him. You know,
Speaker 2: Gryce Harper, Okay, he hasn't been real good the past
Speaker 2: three years. He really hasn't. Freddy Freeman's getting up there
Speaker 2: a little bit. Rafael Devers's he's looking to set a
Speaker 2: new world record in strikeouts since he's a pace for it.
Speaker 2: I just didn't I like Vinnie P. I think he's
Speaker 2: a thirty one hundred guy, possibly more in the RBIs
Speaker 2: because he's got two pretty good bats in Michael Garcia
Speaker 2: and Bobby Wood Junior batting ahead of him. I just
Speaker 2: see Vinnie as last year was the start of a
Speaker 2: whole string of thirty one hundred type seasons, and I
Speaker 2: reward for last year and what I believe he can
Speaker 2: be moving forward up against his peers.
Speaker 1: I like VNP a lot as well. Just to tell
Speaker 1: you what the data says everyone. He makes really good
Speaker 1: contact and he's improved his contact over the years. He
Speaker 1: will he will expand the strike zone and chase the pitches,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think you have to look past that.
Speaker 1: He has big leverage in his swing and he hits
Speaker 1: the ball hard. So to me, I'm kind of with Tim.
Speaker 1: I mean, thirty one hundred should be the should be
Speaker 1: the floor, and I think he can hit what he
Speaker 1: did last season that you know, the two sixty to
Speaker 1: two seventy batting average. I mean, I think he makes
Speaker 1: good enough contact to do that. So I think there's
Speaker 1: there's a really high floor with him, and then a chance,
Speaker 1: given how hard he hits the ball and how much
Speaker 1: leverage is, there's a chance for thirty five to forty
Speaker 1: home runs, And I think that's what you're looking for
Speaker 1: with some upside there, So I applaud you for putting
Speaker 1: him so high.
Speaker 2: Well, I just thought it was the right time, the
Speaker 2: right situation where he is. He's earned that, and I hey,
Speaker 2: I will take vinnyp ahead of Bryce Harper and Freddie
Speaker 2: Freeman and Rafael Divers this year, which will probably mystify many,
Speaker 2: But I just think it's a better pick.
Speaker 1: Good stuff there, Michael Bush. Any concern, I know there's concerned.
Speaker 1: How much concern about the platoon splits.
Speaker 2: It's a relatively small sample size. But like in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, okay against South Buzz, his OPS was seven twelve,
Speaker 2: dropped one hundred points last year. I could go back
Speaker 2: up to the seven twelve. I'm not concerned because he's
Speaker 2: going to hit thirty home runs and drive in ninety runs,
Speaker 2: and that is perfectly fine for somebody sitting ten eleven
Speaker 2: twelve in the in the rankings. So I think it's
Speaker 2: a good fit. I think you're going to get solid numbers. Oh,
Speaker 2: I have very it might actually even be better at
Speaker 2: some point in time. Michael Bush isn't hitting against lefties
Speaker 2: if he can't hit them. Okay, he hit because fastballs.
Speaker 1: He hit one eighty eight last season against left handed fastballs.
Speaker 1: Against right hairs, he hit two eighty nine with a
Speaker 1: three h three expected, So that's some pretty severe. And
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four he did hit a two sixty
Speaker 1: batting average against the tempus right against fastballs, so he
Speaker 1: was a little bit better. Didn't show a ton of power,
Speaker 1: only hit one home run last year excuse me, four
Speaker 1: total against the lefties, one total in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Of his twenty one he only hit one home run
Speaker 1: against lefties, So I would call them pretty severe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be better off that he's not facing
Speaker 2: same sight arms really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he does hit at the top of the
Speaker 1: lineup when he's gone up against right handed pitching, so
Speaker 1: you can argue if he loses one hundred at bats
Speaker 1: because he's platoony, might make fifty of them back because
Speaker 1: he's sitting at the top of the lineup.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think there's thirty home runs there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I, hey, thirty thirty ninety is a eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Speaker 2: Some worry in that range is that's that's what thirty
Speaker 2: thirty ninety is going to get you at first base.
Speaker 2: So I think it just fits.
Speaker 1: Well, let's take a break to me and do eleven
Speaker 1: through twenty. I still love ben Rice. I know most
Speaker 1: people will play him at Catcher. I'll remind everyone because
Speaker 1: it'd be the last time we've probably talked about ben
Speaker 1: Rice for a while. The data looks really really monstrous.
Speaker 1: With that advice, I'm just gonna tell everybody go take
Speaker 1: a look at it. It looks really really good.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I agree. I And hey, you're gonna pay
Speaker 2: for him. You're you're gonna pay for that data. And
Speaker 2: he had a good year last year. This year will
Speaker 2: be even better with the additional advats.
Speaker 1: Should be come. My number eleven is Josh Naylor with
Speaker 1: his thirty stolen bases. Tyler Sodastrom at thirteen. A Salvador Perez.
Speaker 1: You gotta put Salvador. He's no my son, not sal Timmy,
Speaker 1: it's Salvador.
Speaker 2: It's formal here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, all the sites that's they call
Speaker 1: him Salvador. He always always gets kicked out. You put
Speaker 1: salvare So anyway, all right, So we got Salvador Perez
Speaker 1: at thirteen, Christian Walker at fourteen, Spencer Torcos and Tim's
Speaker 1: buddy at fifteen, Janta Dis sixteen seventeen, Jonathan Aronda, South
Speaker 1: Stewart at eighteen, cal Man Sarto at nineteen, and Wilson
Speaker 1: Cantrera's at twenty. I think Wilson Canturi's is catch your
Speaker 1: eligible anymore?
Speaker 2: Is he? I don't believe so. No. Yeah, so out
Speaker 2: of that, I don't have him listed. No, he's not
Speaker 2: catch your eligible.
Speaker 1: How many stolen bases does Josh Naylor get this season
Speaker 1: now that he's got the long term contract?
Speaker 2: Uh? Less than thirty because it could be it could
Speaker 2: be considerable, considerably less than thirty. Hey, if you're drafting.
Speaker 2: And again, when when I look at the overall situation,
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit lower on Josh Naylor than the
Speaker 2: NFBZ folks. The reason I'm a little bit lower I'm
Speaker 2: taking to be those stolen based numbers. His career high
Speaker 2: was ten in twenty twenty four, and he destroyed that
Speaker 2: last year by stealing twenty more. Okay, if you look
Speaker 2: at his speed, okay, I think he's in the bottom
Speaker 2: three percent is.
Speaker 1: Three three three three, the number between two and four. Yes,
Speaker 1: a set of ninety seven percent of baseball players are
Speaker 1: faster than Josh Naylor. Yet he stole thirty bases.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you're betting on a repeat of that and
Speaker 2: you're taking, you're taking the positive. The four he's gonna
Speaker 2: do it again, Get good odds, get amazing odds, because
Speaker 2: I would be shocked. I'd be shocked if he steals twenty.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking fifteen. Maybe.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm sorry to me. It's just a guy that
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in. He doesn't hit the ball that hard.
Speaker 1: It's all pull side power. He's playing in Seattle all
Speaker 1: season long. I don't believe the stolen basis makes no sense.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. So when I don't understand something
Speaker 1: to me, I tap out until I can figure it
Speaker 1: makes sense of it. I just know it's it's no
Speaker 1: moss for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm going to be looking at one of
Speaker 2: the top ten so I can safely say Josh Nailer
Speaker 2: is not part of my plan. Stuff I'm looking at
Speaker 2: and you know where I stand as far as stolen
Speaker 2: bases ten to fifteen, H No, I no, it's I
Speaker 2: think in the eleven to fifteen range. I think you're
Speaker 2: getting a solid player, but that's extra twenty stolen bases. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't count on that. Moving forward, You you just
Speaker 2: can't count on thirty stolen bases based on everything we've seen. Hey,
Speaker 2: if I salute him, I don't know how he did it.
Speaker 2: Picking his moments. Obviously he's a good he's a good
Speaker 2: runner or a good bass stealer. Yes, but are the
Speaker 2: Mariners going to want to want to play that game
Speaker 2: with him? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take a look at what happened
Speaker 1: when he got moved and did they steal more bases
Speaker 1: or just not buying it. There's something something that's not right.
Speaker 1: I do like Tyler Soderstroum a little bit at twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you do you still like Spencer Torkosen this season?
Speaker 2: Well, excuse me, I think when it comes to Solderstrom, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the only thing you gotta be remember is this will
Speaker 2: be his last year of first base eligibility. Okay, And yeah,
Speaker 2: Nick Kurtz is not gonna say for Tyler Solderstorm we
Speaker 2: went through that last year. But Solderstrum is a very
Speaker 2: solid player. I believe Tarkosen. I think the problem with
Speaker 2: Torkosen is the same problem you can look. You can
Speaker 2: look at Kyle Menzardo, Okay, and compare the two directly.
Speaker 2: They both have flaws in their hit tool, okay, But
Speaker 2: at the same point in time, if the Tigers can
Speaker 2: live okay with the thirty home runs and the ninety
Speaker 2: RBIs and the low batting average, I think he can.
Speaker 2: I think he can repeat those numbers. I think Kyle
Speaker 2: Menzarto can hit thirty home runs and drive in ninety
Speaker 2: on a team that has no no big bobbers at all.
Speaker 2: I think he can. He can do it. But again,
Speaker 2: you're looking at a low batting average. It all depends
Speaker 2: whether or not the teams will accept that and live
Speaker 2: with it, and I think Detroit should. Oh, okay, he
Speaker 2: had two pretty good years with a year in the
Speaker 2: middle when they decided to correct all his flaws. He
Speaker 2: did nothing. So I think it's one of those situations
Speaker 2: where hey, you live with what you got, okay, and
Speaker 2: if that's not good enough, let turkles in their let Mansart,
Speaker 2: let him go because they'll do it elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, Man Men's Art is a weird dude
Speaker 1: to me because he was a He was more of
Speaker 1: a contact guy when he was coming through the minor leagues.
Speaker 1: Really good hit tool, That's that's how they drafted him,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he just added a
Speaker 1: tonnel leverage. It's at twenty one point three degrees, guys,
Speaker 1: that's top ten percent of the league. That's a huge
Speaker 1: launch angle. And he doesn't hit the ball all that hard,
Speaker 1: but you know, so consequently strikeouts go up because hitting
Speaker 1: more of an angle, he's not meeting the ball more
Speaker 1: head on. And all of a sudden he hits two
Speaker 1: thirty four with a lot of home runs, And that
Speaker 1: just seems like the guy he's he's become. And I
Speaker 1: guess that was the trade off that the Guardians were
Speaker 1: comfortable with.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's the same trade off that the Tigers
Speaker 2: have to have to be looking at. Right. You know,
Speaker 2: Turtles is gonna hit thirty home runs, He's gonna drive
Speaker 2: in I believe eighty five to ninety plus runs. He's
Speaker 2: gonna hit two thirty. Can you live with it? And
Speaker 2: that's what it boils down to with some of these guys.
Speaker 2: You're looking at Menzardo and he's the only we're gonna
Speaker 2: I called him a big bobber. He's the only thing
Speaker 2: close to a big bobber in Cleveland, isn't he? You
Speaker 2: can't really count Jose Ramirez as being a big bopper,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If I would and think a guy that's five foot six,
Speaker 1: seven eight something like that, he can't stop to call
Speaker 1: him a big big bopper. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Manzaro sort of breaks the mold in Cleveland,
Speaker 2: and if Cleveland wants a big RBI, big home run guy,
Speaker 2: there's a price to be paid.
Speaker 1: I will say Manzarto and Torkusen profile very similarly looking
Speaker 1: at the data, except Torklesen is a little bit better
Speaker 1: in all categories. It's a ball a little bit harder,
Speaker 1: has a little bit more leverage in a swing, a
Speaker 1: little bit better contact, more walk less, chase, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So he's just a better player. But he
Speaker 1: is going is going considerably ahead of him. He's going
Speaker 1: as let's see, his ADP is one eighty nine and
Speaker 1: Calm Manzarda is two thirty seven. I think I'd rather
Speaker 1: have Spencer torkles between the two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but that's what you're looking at. Though. There's
Speaker 2: there's a flaw in their game, and if you're looking
Speaker 2: at drafting either one of those players, you just have
Speaker 2: to Yeah, you just have to know that when you're
Speaker 2: drafting them, Okay, you're not going to get a two
Speaker 2: eighty season as Kyle manzero or Spencer's Turtles, and for
Speaker 2: that matter, unless it's it's a one off with a
Speaker 2: huge babbit, Yeah, it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So we talked about Jonathan Ronda a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: and one of our Patreon members, two of our Patriot
Speaker 1: members actually reached out and said, hey, what do you
Speaker 1: think about Ronda? You seem to like him, which I
Speaker 1: gave the impression I think I said I liked him.
Speaker 1: So I said, let me take a deeper dive on it, Timmy,
Speaker 1: as it seems like it's the case with every one
Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Rays, not me, Junior Caminero. He
Speaker 1: hasn't had platoon splitz. I mean, this is a platoon player,
Speaker 1: so I just I just want to let everybody know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the platoon splits are really severe with Ronda,
Speaker 1: So just know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think Aranda can move up
Speaker 2: the ranks, but he's got to get twenty plus home runs.
Speaker 2: Now again, I've got Yandy Diaz and Randa ranked a
Speaker 2: little bit lower than the NFUC and one of the
Speaker 2: reasons is they're going back to the Trump this year. Okay,
Speaker 2: Yandy Diaz totally totally mystifies me. Okay, how could a
Speaker 2: guy with a launch angle, okay of five degrees select
Speaker 2: twenty five home runs?
Speaker 1: Have you seen?
Speaker 2: M Yeah? Well, eighteen of those home runs were last
Speaker 2: year at Steinbrenner Field. They're moving back to the Troup.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm predicting even with his popeyeish arms, fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty home runs as a max for Diaz. Okay, I
Speaker 2: think I don't think you can look at that twenty
Speaker 2: five at Steinbrenner and equate it on a one to
Speaker 2: one with that launch angle in the Troup. That's that's
Speaker 2: my my thoughts and Rande's. He's got to hit for
Speaker 2: some more. He's got to hit for more power to
Speaker 2: move up the ranks maybe well maybe still early.
Speaker 1: Would you like to hear the splits? Sure home games?
Speaker 1: He hit twenty five home runs last season, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eighteen of them were hit in slime Brenner Field with
Speaker 1: a five thirty three slug away. Seven home runs with
Speaker 1: a four to twenty eight slug So temis Reich put
Speaker 1: him back to fifteen is twelve to fifteen type of
Speaker 1: home run. That's that's who the player is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I put my narrative too. You know,
Speaker 2: it's eighteen in the Homers at home. They're not playing home.
Speaker 2: Is not Steinbernerfield next year? Oh I think I did that.
Speaker 1: I apologize I didn'tet a chance to reach her. I
Speaker 1: didn't have enough time, as mister McLeod so.
Speaker 2: I also I also looked at all the red associated
Speaker 2: with both of them. Yeah, if Yandy dia Is ever
Speaker 2: found a way to get up to ten to twelve
Speaker 2: degree launch angle, he hit forty home runs, I agree. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm convinced of it. But five degrees, that's a ground
Speaker 2: ball hitter. You know, it's basically a flat swing.
Speaker 1: That is correct. He's a line drive you would you
Speaker 1: would characterize a five degrees as a line drive hitter.
Speaker 1: A guy with a minus degree you would say is
Speaker 1: a grand poletter. But yes, because I think Chandler Simpson
Speaker 1: is probably negative.
Speaker 2: Yeah I could see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, let's see Chandler Simpson has a where's his
Speaker 1: launch angle? Here? Where did go? Oh?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with three percent.
Speaker 1: Three percent degrees three degrees. It's okay, launch angle, so
Speaker 1: I gotta hit LA. Can't find it? All right? I
Speaker 1: will find it as we continue a launchangle zero point five.
Speaker 2: Okay, look out pictures, get ready to duck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's wow, that's that's that's his flats as down.
Speaker 1: This is he's hitting down on the pitch. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's move on a little bit to twenty one to thirty.
Speaker 1: Spencer Steer at twenty one, Michel Vargas at twenty two,
Speaker 1: Jake Berger at twenty three, Alec Burlatson, Josh Bell, your buddy,
Speaker 1: Andrew Vaughn, Lendy and Sosa. Did you drop him a
Speaker 1: little bit because of the signing of Mirakami or is
Speaker 1: that before Murakami got signed?
Speaker 2: Before Mirrakami was signed, I had him at twenty two, okay.
Speaker 2: I adjusted it as soon as I saw the news.
Speaker 2: I was working on first base. First thing I did
Speaker 2: was check to see if Mirrakammy was first base eligible anywhere.
Speaker 2: Second thing I did was take a look to see
Speaker 2: who's going to pay the price for the signing, and
Speaker 2: I came up with Glennon so says the as a
Speaker 2: likely candidate. So I took a I took the approach
Speaker 2: that he had to be downgraded under those the circumstances.
Speaker 2: So it's current. It's current as of the Murakammy signing, Yes.
Speaker 1: Tristan Casses at twenty eight, Charlie Condon surprise there at
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and Lewis Arrise at thirty. I think you're
Speaker 1: lowing Tristan Casses.
Speaker 2: I could be, But when was the last time we
Speaker 2: saw anything meaningful from Tristan Casses? It was twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: He hasn't played. No. Hey, twenty twenty three, he had
Speaker 2: that strong finish and we were all betting on Tristan
Speaker 2: Cass as being a thirty one hundred guy in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. It didn't happen. He hasn't played basically the
Speaker 2: past two years. I just have a Yeah, you look
Speaker 2: at twenty twenty twenty three, that was We're going on
Speaker 2: three years ago. That's a long time in the game
Speaker 2: of baseball, and you know, hey, maybe I'm a little
Speaker 2: overly negative on my assessment, but man, he's got a
Speaker 2: lot of ground to make up, and Boston has a
Speaker 2: young team with lots of potential. I think I don't
Speaker 2: think Boston has much patience left. And if he doesn't
Speaker 2: get off to a solid start, I could see Boston
Speaker 2: doing something about it rather smartly right away.
Speaker 1: So, first of all, the reason he has not played
Speaker 1: much is cause of injuries, right, So, I mean, so
Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, Tammy, he was all red.
Speaker 1: I mean it's really good stuff in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: and then even in his lead of time last season,
Speaker 1: it was good. I mean, the bat speed is still there,
Speaker 1: he still understands the strike zone. I think the skills
Speaker 1: are intact. Yeah, how do you bet on? How do
Speaker 1: you figure out the health situation? I don't know, You're
Speaker 1: you're playing a little bit of a guessing game, but
Speaker 1: you know when you sure hit him with what's his
Speaker 1: ADP going as Tristan Casses three, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about that as a as my
Speaker 1: corner infielder, I feel really good about that, and I
Speaker 1: know I can back it up with one of these
Speaker 1: other guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as you make sure to take that approach. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't leave your draft with your your
Speaker 2: corner guy being Tristan Casses and no insurance policy. You
Speaker 2: have to have one.
Speaker 1: Yep, it can't be Noldan Shan well either, but I
Speaker 1: get no.
Speaker 2: No, I would probably go with like a guy.
Speaker 1: Like Ryan O'Hearn as insurance policy, assuming he gets a job,
Speaker 1: res Hoskins, somebody like that. I think he'll get a job,
Speaker 1: so I mean that might be somebody who could who
Speaker 1: could fill in. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm I'm not feeling it rich.
Speaker 1: I'm just not feeling it with Tristan Cass.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, I get everything you're saying, but he's
Speaker 2: I think he's got it. Something's got to happen early on,
Speaker 2: right right, I think the Red Sox their patients might
Speaker 2: be waning.
Speaker 1: Tristan will be a top fifteen first basement at the
Speaker 1: end of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 1: Would you like, would you like to do a Steak
Speaker 1: and Liquor bet on that?
Speaker 2: Sure? I was going to say, Tristan Cassis could be
Speaker 2: in Korea by July.
Speaker 1: They don't do end season signing, so that's like, I'll
Speaker 1: do that. Bet Tristan Cass could be in Triple A.
Speaker 1: That's that's interesting. I'm gonna bet that he's going to
Speaker 1: be healthy. Since to a Steak and Liquor, Tristan Casses
Speaker 1: ends up as a top of fifteen first basement.
Speaker 2: Medium rare.
Speaker 1: Please, Okay, Charlie Conmon comes in at twenty twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: He's got him sixteen slots higher than the NB season.
Speaker 1: And I totally get where you're coming from. Uh, you've
Speaker 1: got blamed Grime Crim a little bit higher and was Johnston?
Speaker 1: Did they just sign the Miami kid? I think there's
Speaker 1: nobody at first base, so yeah, I think I'm getting
Speaker 1: your logic right. Is it's for Charlie.
Speaker 2: Condon's Yeah, basically where I said my narrative, warming Burnable
Speaker 2: and Michael Togally that they both moved on. So that
Speaker 2: leaves your Condon, Blaine Krim, and Troy Johnson fighting for
Speaker 2: the full time job at first for the Rockies. I
Speaker 2: just put if Condon doesn't break camp with the job,
Speaker 2: an early season call up is a real possibility avoid
Speaker 2: the waiver wire battle for his services by investing at
Speaker 2: the draft. It's wide open for that position, and I
Speaker 2: don't see Blaine Crim and Troy Johnson holding off Charlie
Speaker 2: Condon for all that long. So I think he's a
Speaker 2: perfect candidate to draft in the reserve rounds and sit
Speaker 2: on him. I think he'll be like I said, if
Speaker 2: he doesn't break camp, I think there's he's going to
Speaker 2: be up fairly early in the season. So that's why
Speaker 2: I made my bold move.
Speaker 1: I think, I think your logic is sound, and I
Speaker 1: got it, you know, as I was looking through who's
Speaker 1: going to play first base in Colorado? I mean, Colorado
Speaker 1: needs something good to happen, and Charlie Condon is you know,
Speaker 1: the you know the guy, right, and he is the
Speaker 1: guy that they're hoping can help them next season. I
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say, though, tem he has not
Speaker 1: been very good since he was the Golden Spikes winner
Speaker 1: coming out of the twenty twenty four draft, looked at
Speaker 1: as the, if not the best prospect coming out of
Speaker 1: that draft, one of the best prospects, and he is
Speaker 1: just the swing and miss is higher than anybody thought,
Speaker 1: the chase rate is higher than anybody thought. The power
Speaker 1: is not as robust as anybody thought. I mean, he
Speaker 1: has not been the guy that we thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be.
Speaker 2: No, when you when you look at the numbers from
Speaker 2: last year, yeah, at double a, two hundred at bats,
Speaker 2: eleven homers, which which is fine, thirty eight RBI, sixty
Speaker 2: seven strikeouts, but again an eight oh seven obs. I
Speaker 2: think we were expecting more, but I'm not overly disappointed
Speaker 2: with what I saw last year at Double A.
Speaker 1: I saw him play Timmy. I saw him playing saw
Speaker 1: I'm playing a series on three games. By the way,
Speaker 1: the reason everybody's disappointed. Twenty twenty four at the University
Speaker 1: of Georgia, thirty seven home runs and he hit four
Speaker 1: thirty three, So that doesn't see everybody was thinking wow,
Speaker 1: and he hits the ball really hard. I saw he's
Speaker 1: he reminds me of Turklesen. I mean, I think there's
Speaker 1: going to be power there. I don't think the hit tool.
Speaker 1: I think he's guessing that breaking pitches, I really do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw a guy that was reaching. I
Speaker 1: saw a guy that was tentative against really good and
Speaker 1: the Yankees have really good because I saw him against
Speaker 1: the Somerset Patriots with e Erc and Lagrange all those guys,
Speaker 1: and they were good. He Orc was throwing a splitter
Speaker 1: against UF and he was like, huh, what's that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better get used to what's that? Because you're
Speaker 2: going to see lots of it moving forward, especially if
Speaker 2: you can't you can't hit it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that I mean that was the thing that
Speaker 1: worried me a little bit. I mean, I'd be surprised
Speaker 1: if he doesn't hit thirty home runs, but it could
Speaker 1: be Spencer torkleson where he's going to hit two thirty.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't disagree. I guess my my problem
Speaker 2: when I look at that situation is like how long
Speaker 2: I know it's Colorado, but how long are they going
Speaker 2: to go with Blaine Krim and Troy Johnson. I guess
Speaker 2: they could go however along they really want to, but
Speaker 2: it you know, well, I mean I would.
Speaker 1: Think the Rockies need something, and you think of all
Speaker 1: these top prospects that come up. It's a big deal
Speaker 1: and the team makes a lot of noise about it,
Speaker 1: and they want to sell tickets and merch and et cetera.
Speaker 1: And I Charlie Condon is that guy for them, right
Speaker 1: or Ethan Holiday, But he's not coming up anytime soon.
Speaker 2: No, no, Yeah, the guy one of the guys I
Speaker 2: had trouble ranking and I put him in at thirty,
Speaker 2: but I'm still asking myself why. And that's Luisa Rise. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna hit double digit home runs.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna steal double digit bases. Yeah,
Speaker 2: see you got batting average. I don't know it's looking
Speaker 2: at this now, I would I would throw a Rise
Speaker 2: down about six seven spots and move out of my
Speaker 2: top thirty. I just have trouble with one dimensional batting
Speaker 2: average type players.
Speaker 1: It's yes, but her, I mean, I guess he wound
Speaker 1: not hitting two ninety two at one point he was
Speaker 1: down to like two sixty or something like that. And
Speaker 1: he's a guy. To me, if you draft him, you've
Speaker 1: made You've done something wrong, which meant you needed you
Speaker 1: needed some help in batting average. And given how many
Speaker 1: of bats there are, even Lewis a Rise that's going
Speaker 1: to hit three hundred, I mean, it's not going to
Speaker 1: help you that much as opposed to Chandler Simpson with
Speaker 1: sixty stolen bases might help you, right, I mean, just
Speaker 1: so be careful with that. I don't get Lewis Rise,
Speaker 1: particularly at first base, makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2: Now, last year eight homers, eleven stolen bases, sixty one RBI,
Speaker 2: sixty six run score. Yeah that's at first base. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the year before he hit four homers, he stole
Speaker 2: nine bases. Yeah, he posted a three fourteen batting average.
Speaker 2: But you know it, Hey, you're late his numbers from
Speaker 2: last year. He struck out twenty one times, walk thirty four.
Speaker 1: To me today, if you're contempt, if you're looking at
Speaker 1: your spreadsheet or whatever, and you're looking at oh man,
Speaker 1: I don't have enough batting average. I need to get
Speaker 1: Lewis a rise. To me, you should just say, let
Speaker 1: me double up on stolen bases, run scored, RBI's power something,
Speaker 1: because batting average is so volatile anyway. Somebody can have
Speaker 1: a batting average balls and play out of sight and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you know you're batting averages and
Speaker 1: as bad. So that's that's not gonna happen with Lewis
Speaker 1: rise and power stole a basis, this is not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: No, no, there will be minimal production at every category
Speaker 2: other than maybe run scored and the batting average. So
Speaker 2: I agree on Richard, Hey, you made a mistake. If
Speaker 2: that's why you're if you're looking at a rise, that's
Speaker 2: the only answer I can see.
Speaker 1: To me, it's take another break and get back and
Speaker 1: let me ask you the hard questions. Anybody from thirty
Speaker 1: one down to sixty five it's totally. I'm not totally
Speaker 1: is so I changed that for you?
Speaker 2: Okay, don't know where that came from.
Speaker 1: But I've got somebody I like here and this bottom half?
Speaker 1: Who do you like?
Speaker 2: Ah? There there's a lot of players that that I
Speaker 2: like in this group. I don't know if this is
Speaker 2: the year for it, but uh I sort of saved
Speaker 2: them for the fourth, fourth question or fifth question.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all it. May I may I comment on
Speaker 1: one player. I just want to say, it's kind of
Speaker 1: sad to see Paul Goldschmid at forty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad. Is he going? Is he going to
Speaker 2: get a deal with anybody?
Speaker 1: I don't. I would would have surprised you if he retires.
Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't. That's why I had him that low
Speaker 2: that was my thought.
Speaker 1: He's had a great career. But I mean, it's just sad.
Speaker 1: It's like seeing Mike Trout in the thirties and forties
Speaker 1: and outfielder my forties and fifties and outfits like oh really.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. It brings back memories of who they were,
Speaker 2: not who they are.
Speaker 1: Doesn't Nathaniel Lowe get a job?
Speaker 2: Uh? I hope? So? Am I willing to bet on it.
Speaker 2: That's one I can't figure out that at all. I
Speaker 2: think just scouting the stat lines, he's been he's been
Speaker 2: an okay player, you know, eighteen homers, twenty seven, seventeen, sixteen, eighteen,
Speaker 2: his RBI totals. Like even last last year with the
Speaker 2: eighteen home runs he drove in eighty four, his batting
Speaker 2: average plummitted to twenty eight. He really started going after
Speaker 2: it with the h Looking at the strikeout numbers, I
Speaker 2: would I would think somebody should take a chance on
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Lowe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I were representing him, I would say, look,
Speaker 1: he's got below average bat speed and exit velocities. I
Speaker 1: would be at add some leverage pal. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got a ten degree launch angle, up from seven degrees
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, and I would try to squeak
Speaker 1: out another couple of years of twenty home run power.
Speaker 1: But look, analytics guys are looking at this data and going,
Speaker 1: this is a fifteen home run guy, this is Nolan shandwell,
Speaker 1: and I'm not interested. And so he's got he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to come in. He's not a very good field.
Speaker 1: If you look at the defensive metrics. So there's not
Speaker 1: a lot there that's interesting except that he walks a lot.
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna have to come in his
Speaker 1: representats have to come in and say he has made
Speaker 1: some changes and this is it and it's either adding
Speaker 1: leverage or something. But as this guy, oh, timmy, I
Speaker 1: think there's you know, it looks just okay to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could be off to career, I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which maybe though at average two.
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so which guy in the top ten?
Speaker 1: Which guy? Let's see which guy not in the top
Speaker 1: ten has a chance to emerge their next season?
Speaker 2: Uh? Not in the top ten. I'm going with Stewart. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going with South Stewart.
Speaker 1: Oh, good call.
Speaker 2: Like last, I like the kid a lot. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of potential sitting there. And when I look at
Speaker 2: the group between eleven and twenty, you've got a lot
Speaker 2: of players that I think are going to be in
Speaker 2: that group until they fall out of that group. And
Speaker 2: it's not going in an upwards direction. It's going in
Speaker 2: the other direction. I just don't see, you know, Joshneeler, Okay,
Speaker 2: sort of Storm won't qualify at first base. Next year,
Speaker 2: so I took him out of the equation. Yeah, sal
Speaker 2: Prez is like mid thirties now, Christian Walker, there's flaws Toarkalsen,
Speaker 2: the same diaz Randa that leaves you with Stuart Menzarto. Right,
Speaker 2: Wilson Contreras is what he is. I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of talent between eleven and twenty. Like I said,
Speaker 2: that will be eleven to twenty type talent until they
Speaker 2: fall into that group and it won't be hitting in
Speaker 2: the right direction but the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me challenge you. Nick Kurtz, you've got at
Speaker 1: number two, could have him at number one forty fifth
Speaker 1: last year, ranked by the great Timmaca. Kudos for ranking
Speaker 1: him Ben Rice also at forty nine, and other kudos
Speaker 1: for ranking him there. Right, who is who has the
Speaker 1: best chance to be sitting where Nick Kurtz is this
Speaker 1: time next season that we're not I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: been down at forty five, forty know, somebody way down?
Speaker 2: Oh, you want to you want to go? You don't
Speaker 2: want to go real deep.
Speaker 1: I want to go somebody that we've not talked about yet,
Speaker 1: somebody who is below.
Speaker 2: Thirty, Ryan Clifford, Jonathan Long.
Speaker 1: Not Jonathan Long, but Ryan Clifford, Ding Ding Ding. I
Speaker 1: love Jonathan, I love uh Ryan Clifford. I think that's
Speaker 1: a real good What about Bryce Eldridge.
Speaker 2: That's San Francisco. Okay, they do play games after four
Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon. I mean it's you know, Drives
Speaker 2: the Bold. If you're looking, I think if you're looking
Speaker 2: for somebody who's going to make a massive move up,
Speaker 2: it's gotta be somebody who hits for a lot of power. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: Charlie Condon Clifford. Uh, I'm looking through the list of
Speaker 2: candidates here to take as big a rise as Kurtz.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does has that potential.
Speaker 1: So or maybe a Ben Rice who goes up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ben Ben Ben Rice. If he has forty
Speaker 2: five home runs, he's gonna move into your top three, right, probably, yes.
Speaker 1: Which I think he will, Yeah, particularly if he has
Speaker 1: got your eligibility. Okay, all right, So who drops out
Speaker 1: of this top ten?
Speaker 2: Oh? Easy, easy choice for me. No, the guy that
Speaker 2: is currently sitting at eight. H I'm not yes, I'm
Speaker 2: not overly enamored with what I'm seeing from Raphael Devers.
Speaker 2: You know, he had the fifth highest total of strikeouts
Speaker 2: in the game last year. I'm looking at it a
Speaker 2: thir right across the board, and it was closing in
Speaker 2: on forty on the off speed stuff. Okay, that's that
Speaker 2: to me is alarming. He was thirty nine Oh was
Speaker 2: he thirty nine to two? Thirty nine to three on
Speaker 2: the off speed stuff? The whiff rate, Like I know,
Speaker 2: he hit thirty five homers and he drove in one
Speaker 2: hundred and nine runs, But there's some warning signs starting
Speaker 2: to show up with Divers in that high strike and
Speaker 2: whiff rate. I don't think you can totally ignore them.
Speaker 2: If I was playing in a Dynasty format, I would
Speaker 2: be staying totally away from Rafael Divers.
Speaker 1: Off speed pitches is the thirty nine percent with thirty
Speaker 1: eight point seven. So for some reason he's struggling against
Speaker 1: left handed It's almost fifty percent of the time he's
Speaker 1: whipping on off speed pitches, which is pretty weird. So
Speaker 1: he's not picking up I wonder if there's something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's way out in front of everything. The power store,
Speaker 1: huge huge eggs of velocity. Yep, it is enough launch
Speaker 1: angle for him to continue to hit thirty home runs
Speaker 1: thirty five home runs, but yeah, you're right. The strikeout
Speaker 1: rates and the whiff rates against, Yes, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah when you're when you drake out and you're number
Speaker 2: five on the most dracoed list, that's not a good thing.
Speaker 2: At some point in time, he's going to lose a
Speaker 2: tick of this, a tick of that, and he's going
Speaker 2: to be very, very mortal. I'm staying away from Rafao divers.
Speaker 1: He hasn't. But just to be fair, he hasn't lost
Speaker 1: a tick of anything yet. So he's still the same guy,
Speaker 1: and maybe San Francisco will be. I don't know what
Speaker 1: how many home runs he hit. Did he spend the
Speaker 1: entire season in San Francisco?
Speaker 2: I think most of it was he wasn't He wasn't
Speaker 2: a real happy camper before that deal. If i'm he
Speaker 2: might have spent the full year. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: March, March, April, and May he was in Boston, so
Speaker 1: where he hit twelve home runs? Let's see, well, seventeen
Speaker 1: home runs before the All Start break, eighteen home runs
Speaker 1: after the All Star breaks, so I need he hit
Speaker 1: a ton of home runs in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he did. I just have my concern and
Speaker 2: when I look at that group. Obviously, Freddy Freeman's another guy, okay,
Speaker 2: that could fall out of the top ten. Then, blasphemous
Speaker 2: as it may seem, Bryce Harper, he's no spring chicken,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, over the past three seasons, he's
Speaker 2: only hit thirty plus once, he's driven eight in eighty
Speaker 2: or more runs once. He hasn't scored ninety runs. I
Speaker 2: think Bryce Harper is being overdrafted. I think it's time
Speaker 2: to downshift a little bit. I'm not saying he's done,
Speaker 2: not by any stretch of the imagination. But if you
Speaker 2: look at what he's done over the past three seasons,
Speaker 2: is it warranting? Like I know the NFC has him
Speaker 2: as four. It's he's got to start coming down a
Speaker 2: little bit in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still got some speed though, I think that
Speaker 1: gives him a little bit of a push.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, those are the you know, like I said, Harper,
Speaker 2: Freeman and especially those Devers, those are the three that
Speaker 2: concerned me. In the top ten right.
Speaker 1: Now, I always gets mixed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah me too.
Speaker 1: I look it up and then I forget. Okay, so
Speaker 1: give me a sleeper or two.
Speaker 2: A sleeper to Charlie Condon, Ryan Clifford, Uh, Jonathan Long
Speaker 2: doesn't have a place to play, But should he find
Speaker 2: a place or the Cubs find a place for him?
Speaker 2: This potential air and Luke Adams in Milwaukee, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw him into that into the pile.
Speaker 1: I got. My only other sleeper is Ralphie Velasquez.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: With the Guardians. That was the guy that I thought.
Speaker 2: So I think I've got him on my list somewhere
Speaker 2: near the in that group of all the prospects down
Speaker 2: in the in the forties fifties. Where do I have Ralfie?
Speaker 2: Yeah at fifty four.
Speaker 1: Yep. So that that was a guy that I mean, Look,
Speaker 1: the Guardians. The one thing we know about the Guardians
Speaker 1: are always gonna be looking for power.
Speaker 2: So well they just diavade you asking Noel, I believe,
Speaker 2: so that one's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an easy call. I mean, that was
Speaker 1: I mean, and look the Christmas Tree, great great story,
Speaker 1: great nickname. I mean he was this guy had a
Speaker 1: great what six weeks or something. And then listen, you
Speaker 1: see this every year there's a couple of guys that
Speaker 1: come up and they just you know, they go out
Speaker 1: of their minds for a period of time, they get
Speaker 1: overdrafted the following year, and then they're out of baseball.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. It does, Timmy, anybody else
Speaker 1: that you want to avoid besides Raphael Devers? And I
Speaker 1: think you're saying Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I again, if I can get him in
Speaker 2: the fourth round. Yeah, I'm certainly not going as I. Uh,
Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman, I'm okay with in the fifth, sixth round.
Speaker 2: I think there's still another year of solid numbers relatively.
Speaker 1: There's some some health concerns this winter. Is he coming
Speaker 1: on surgery or something?
Speaker 2: Uh? I I will check real quick and see what
Speaker 2: his what his page says. But uh, Freddy Freeman, where
Speaker 2: are we Freddy? No, I don't see anything on his page.
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman suffers unfortunate injury December ninth, injury set back.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm seeing here. Also grab plenty of headlines
Speaker 1: new surface of the team agreed to sign. Also closer
Speaker 1: quite developing, Canadian national baseball team director Gregor revealed that
Speaker 1: Dodgers' first baseman, who is a staple for the Canadian
Speaker 1: team of the world Best Baseball Classic, a suffering an
Speaker 1: injury setback that could help could keep him out of
Speaker 1: the tournament and March and might have some implications for
Speaker 1: next season.
Speaker 2: Okay, wasn't aware of that. It was what is the injury?
Speaker 1: But this is from Forbes, so the financial magazine. That's
Speaker 1: what came up. So maybe they maybe they're maybe it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a bank problem, bank stake. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And it's definitely written by a Canadian because
Speaker 1: it's they're more concerned about the Canadian national team than
Speaker 1: there or anything else.
Speaker 2: WBC. Yeah, the Dodgers, Uh, it's others say, then I
Speaker 2: won't judge Wilson Contreras. Yeah, okay, I you know there
Speaker 2: was big hope that Contreras, with the extra at bats
Speaker 2: and moving to first base, would be a sleeper type
Speaker 2: pick last year. Well, no, it just didn't happen. So
Speaker 2: I twenty eighty, You've got lots of options. Wilson Contreras
Speaker 2: won't be one for me and Louise Arise. Even if
Speaker 2: I have totally screwed up batting average, I'll never admit
Speaker 2: it to the extent where I have to draft him.
Speaker 2: I'll eat it first. Pick another category to try and
Speaker 2: do well in other than just the one trick Bony.
Speaker 1: Totally agree to me a sec or final break it back.
Speaker 1: Find out what tim'sum for dinner. Great show, Tim, great
Speaker 1: work from first Tim