Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog?
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. What are
Speaker 1: you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling around
Speaker 1: out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: It was standing enough. I'm out here looking through the
Speaker 1: window now and I don't see anything. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go outside. Jesus, quiet you bick? Hello? Hit the
Speaker 1: boddy out here? What quin? I'm out there? I thought
Speaker 1: of a bench about text fort nine. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Easy annount there, Yeah, I'm walking right hey.
Speaker 3: Earlier this October, I had the honor of being a
Speaker 3: featured speaker at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference in Missouri.
Speaker 3: It was an incredible weekend, great people, amazing stories, and
Speaker 3: some of the best minds in the field of bigfoot
Speaker 3: research all gathered in one place. Recently, I shared the
Speaker 3: live Q and a from the VIP dinner the night
Speaker 3: before the conference, and the response from you guys was fantastic.
Speaker 3: So today I'm kicking off a brand new series of
Speaker 3: episodes featuring the speakers live from the main event itself. Now,
Speaker 3: before we dive in, just a quick note. This was
Speaker 3: recorded live in a large conference room, so the audio
Speaker 3: isn't studio quality. You'll hear a little bit of echo
Speaker 3: and background noise from the crowd. I recommend listening with
Speaker 3: headphones or earbuds if you can, so you don't miss
Speaker 3: any of the great presentations coming up. First up is
Speaker 3: my good friend Da Roberts, author, investigator and one of
Speaker 3: the most passionate voices in the bigfoot community. Over the
Speaker 3: next several weeks, you'll also hear presentations from David Ziegan
Speaker 3: of Bigfoot Forensics, Shane Carpenter, Ryan rpg Golumbski, and yes,
Speaker 3: eventually yours truly. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the
Speaker 3: first installment of our Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference series, recorded
Speaker 3: live in Missouri. Let's get started with Da Roberts.
Speaker 2: I would hear this pop ANVI something from the wood mity,
Speaker 2: all kinds of murders I can do. First, Sholes. I
Speaker 2: can call Turkish with just my tongue. I didn't use
Speaker 2: the little big brain the love guys used. It was
Speaker 2: pretty good at making mimicing sounds. That's how I realized
Speaker 2: that people they are too. If you live in that environment,
Speaker 2: you'll be alone to be able to mimic the sounds
Speaker 2: of found us. And that's how the tone pop things started.
Speaker 2: I first started out doing another but dad trying to
Speaker 2: make a noise them couldn't not be nowhere. Ear is loud.
Speaker 2: But I got to listen to it, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: it sounds like good. Sometime copying the top of them,
Speaker 2: I went and the first time I did it, I was, oh,
Speaker 2: that's it. But it took me a long time before
Speaker 2: I could project any volume or change teleplay. You can
Speaker 2: really project. Get it out on table on the later
Speaker 2: one night and we got an immediate win in armed
Speaker 2: response and just farther down the place, and then I
Speaker 2: did it again louder and we could hear it apple
Speaker 2: when across the cloth, and that's when we got a
Speaker 2: crowd for back across could get it was not app
Speaker 2: So I think my theory is that toepop is will
Speaker 2: to use. I think the tongue pop is not only
Speaker 2: for saying hey, I'm here, but I think that's also
Speaker 2: the territorial And I think when they hear that and
Speaker 2: they know there's not supposed to be their buddies out there,
Speaker 2: that when they'll find out what it was. And that's
Speaker 2: how we get the regressive responsible to get But I
Speaker 2: also have a theory that you guys might have to
Speaker 2: go out on them with me with and RB cheeping
Speaker 2: back gift on this. We were talking a little bit
Speaker 2: about this last night. How we think that a chunk
Speaker 2: of the time these things are not nocturnal, but a
Speaker 2: goictions at the time they're bulow around. Now. The USGS
Speaker 2: they did a survey of the manage cave system in
Speaker 2: Tennessee and chos and they did a major expedition going
Speaker 2: back into those caves. And I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys did in a cave growling. I did a lot
Speaker 2: of runs the other But it's only mainly because it's
Speaker 2: not like you can say, hey, I'm going to easither
Speaker 2: drop supplies here, because you've got to pack gick ever
Speaker 2: to day, set up a basis camp and bring all
Speaker 2: your supplies into said supply to base camp and then
Speaker 2: four a up from there to do it and have
Speaker 2: each time you can't have supplies what Valley headed done.
Speaker 2: That's the harder part. USGS got three days back in
Speaker 2: the Badma gamee system and started fighting battaches, DIDs. Gimmans
Speaker 2: didn't get that far, not without a major support stretch.
Speaker 2: They didn't know Lois, but I read a report that's
Speaker 2: perfectly interesting. But then they also said that they would
Speaker 2: get back in the cage and they would find areas
Speaker 2: that were blocked off by bowlers, and they would use
Speaker 2: hydraulic jacks and would these bowlers back to the art
Speaker 2: later in Boulder pay bamps. I'm on. It takes some
Speaker 2: of the pretty day show. So we get to thinking
Speaker 2: about the possibility of these things using the gage systems,
Speaker 2: and if you need, all of them are out here,
Speaker 2: because there's a Jay state. We got times that USGS
Speaker 2: now don't believe that the Mammoth Cave system extends from
Speaker 2: Maine to southern New Mexico. If you think that's not
Speaker 2: a highway for these things, you're mistake. Another thing that
Speaker 2: I used definitely uses highways as rivers. If you along
Speaker 2: googlegles and look up Mississippi River and its tributaries, and
Speaker 2: you can bring up the nap of that, they'll blow
Speaker 2: your mine because it looks like a giant tree from
Speaker 2: all over from North America all the way down in
Speaker 2: Mississipi said build of Mexico. There are thousands of tributaries.
Speaker 2: So if they're following these rivers and trees, there's they've
Speaker 2: got a better highway system. Weed. But the reason we
Speaker 2: fought started thinking about there the game that du in
Speaker 2: Southern Bottle was for living a deco location, and that's
Speaker 2: how let it get a line out of topic. The
Speaker 2: reason we think that is because there are people that
Speaker 2: have been born blind. These are maybe gets you to
Speaker 2: find online. There are people who are born blind who
Speaker 2: have taught themselves that at the locate just by clipping
Speaker 2: their tongue. I've watched a video of a guy who
Speaker 2: was born under sent blind who taught himself to ride
Speaker 2: a bicycle UNDERCPT blind clinches on maneuvers two obstacle courses,
Speaker 2: doesn't hit a sin bars. Now, if we as humans
Speaker 2: and do that, what about something that's born adapted to
Speaker 2: that environment. They spend a lot of time to looking
Speaker 2: around with the one it's cooler, especially.
Speaker 1: In the sun.
Speaker 2: And two it avoids us firing. That's why I think
Speaker 2: it's so hard to find a lot of them, especially
Speaker 2: inherited when they've got a lot of days. But that
Speaker 2: at the location, if that's a learner, besacre, if that's
Speaker 2: something they can do. Seml can tell you a lot
Speaker 2: about everything in this room. You can hear where the
Speaker 2: voids are and can hear where the bigger sections are.
Speaker 2: If he listens to that tone and when things bunce
Speaker 2: that it's very easy to pick that out. And I
Speaker 2: can do it. I'm just a ableity and leave them desserve.
Speaker 2: So with some of them that was born out there,
Speaker 2: that lived its entire life out there, that to live
Speaker 2: the generations out there, it could definitely do it. So
Speaker 2: that's why we think of what least one of our
Speaker 2: theories is that they spend a lot of time subterraining.
Speaker 2: Another great indicator that they're definitely that they're subterrainian, and
Speaker 2: a very large part it's concurnal. It's called tap it them,
Speaker 2: elucid them. You deer hunters out there, no point tap
Speaker 2: it and lucid shot eye shine. It doesn't exist to you.
Speaker 2: We lost thousands of years ago, because we're not nocturnal
Speaker 2: and we've manufactured lights and we've started living around fires.
Speaker 2: Tapping and lucid them is a layer in the eye.
Speaker 2: It's an extra layer in the eye that reflects alike.
Speaker 2: So when you make your fairly out in your yard
Speaker 2: with your dog trying to flashlight it and he looks
Speaker 2: at it and he's good, green eyes, that's tapping and
Speaker 2: loose predators have it, nocturnal animals have it. It is
Speaker 2: simply a natural app So I think that the figy
Speaker 2: reports we've heard of people saying that they've seen glowing eyes,
Speaker 2: I think it's just they have a very capital luciam mold.
Speaker 2: We see a lot more reflective light from their eyes
Speaker 2: than we wouldn't, say a dog or a deer that's white.
Speaker 2: You know, even small amounts of light like a pen
Speaker 2: light still lights up their US star right with reflood
Speaker 2: out of the ronts because that tabit of lucim later
Speaker 2: is exactly there. For that reason, it magnifies them read
Speaker 2: the reds the amounts of flight at night, so to
Speaker 2: give them a huge night visions. Now, as a result
Speaker 2: of that, animals that do have capital lusim don't focus
Speaker 2: at Sharper's reading, so you know, going to see a
Speaker 2: slightly greeny or image as we would, but then capital
Speaker 2: luesome is a huge adaptation that would allow them to
Speaker 2: see in the night and we couldn't. And another example
Speaker 2: of that, would you walk the white blind in the dark.
Speaker 2: We could walk like an arms reach at one and
Speaker 2: probably never know it. It's amazing compliment these things we
Speaker 2: can to blush. I've talked to researchers all over the
Speaker 2: United States, including Doug high Checks from Monster Quest. I
Speaker 2: don't if you guys familiar with toss your quest don't
Speaker 2: a good dude, so I don't pregnant. Betta talked to
Speaker 2: Doug about it, talked with a bunch of researchers. Some
Speaker 2: of the researchers from Florida have found it. I've done more,
Speaker 2: but that's another researchers from Florida has foundment chiefs of
Speaker 2: it's what they call clear hairshifts. It doesn't exist and
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist again culture us, but there are underlying
Speaker 2: share of hair shafts that are clear. What's like a
Speaker 2: five rock Okay, a lot of the next years to
Speaker 2: Guillie suit is going to have five rock tables in it,
Speaker 2: because you know what that does, the pick up and
Speaker 2: redirects the color of light around. So if they stacked
Speaker 2: up against the green environment, they would have hair green.
Speaker 2: That they backed up against a brown environment, they would
Speaker 2: look more brown. But the vault of their color is brown.
Speaker 2: There's nothing those highlights, those clear airshafts were thinking enough
Speaker 2: to color aroundable. I don't think it's a cloaking ability.
Speaker 2: And this is just my personal opinion. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a cloaking until oh yeah, I think they're going
Speaker 2: to another dimension. I think they simply camouflage far better
Speaker 2: than we understand. I talked to it. I fraid my
Speaker 2: mining down my own Old Lahoma with charity, and he
Speaker 2: lives on the reservation. And he was talking about one
Speaker 2: time that he went out to one of his favorite
Speaker 2: fishing spots. It was a locking down the trail round
Speaker 2: at the corner. He said, there was one standing in
Speaker 2: the trade. Didn't realize it, he said it durn looked
Speaker 2: at it, put its hand up over its face like
Speaker 2: that like the clubbing its eyes, and stepped back into
Speaker 2: the trees. And he said, as soon as it got
Speaker 2: into the bushes, it was dawn and I asked the
Speaker 2: usual questions. Do you think it cloked and it was
Speaker 2: slowing into another dimension? He goes, I could hear it
Speaker 2: still moving off, he said. I think when that thing
Speaker 2: get those bushers, I just certainly see it. He said.
Speaker 2: These things are so good at the camouflage. You could
Speaker 2: blok right up off one. And they're others, those clear
Speaker 2: hair shufts. I think they're going through that. I know
Speaker 2: it's an alcohol out there theory, but got no more
Speaker 2: out there than any of Yes, there's That's the thing
Speaker 2: about this field those if you look in to it,
Speaker 2: there are no experts. All we have is heary. Some
Speaker 2: theories can out, some don't. But I think the subterranean
Speaker 2: duty is going to prove true. I love that fair
Speaker 2: and I can't wait. It's amazing. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: hearing it. I don't know if you guys didn't need
Speaker 2: in caves here in Missouri, they're the cave here. And
Speaker 2: you know what grove Springs in the hearing is. If
Speaker 2: you guys aren't local, you probably don't. World Springs is
Speaker 2: not exactly civilization as most people know it here in Missouri. Repello,
Speaker 2: if you poke the hit out the window and you're
Speaker 2: plumb through it out near Grots Range. It's a cave
Speaker 2: called Smiddle k and you can look it up up
Speaker 2: on the Missouria Department Conservations. That's on there. It's okay
Speaker 2: if you read the version they said on the MISERVEI
Speaker 2: Department and Conservation that the land was donated to the
Speaker 2: Smiddle family because of the gangs are around that. I
Speaker 2: can pay you for a fat that's book graph because
Speaker 2: I knew this.
Speaker 1: I used to be in there.
Speaker 2: Those aren't skating group that been yas. I'm into this
Speaker 2: middle as well. This Middle has five ten year legal
Speaker 2: battles with the state of Missouri to try to keep
Speaker 2: that plank at Missouri it's kept after and finding guy
Speaker 2: to know main. But as soon as they got control
Speaker 2: of that cave, they put a thirty foot steel fits
Speaker 2: across the mouth. Now, if you're gonna tell me that's
Speaker 2: to protect bats. We're talking about a cave entrance big
Speaker 2: enough that you'd drive a semi into, and they put
Speaker 2: steel bars that are bigger around than minor risks thirty
Speaker 2: feet up. If you want to keep un off like
Speaker 2: does that Kane Lank would have done that. I haven't
Speaker 2: know too many thirty foot bats you can. I wish
Speaker 2: I had to hit a tumbrap with me. I forgot
Speaker 2: it going. But I've got a picture of me down
Speaker 2: next to that steel grating and it is way above
Speaker 2: my head and they've got it angled out at the top.
Speaker 2: What are weeks protecting cave bats for life? And that's
Speaker 2: not the only that cave system that's happened to we're
Speaker 2: beingcarious abouty Eric over here, he's got to bring down
Speaker 2: in the Arkansas at the Department Conslvation did the same
Speaker 2: thing on his lane, came in folded up. Wouldn't let
Speaker 2: anybody have access? And why wouldn't that mean if it's
Speaker 2: just that, yeah, a warning sign of stage say stay out,
Speaker 2: and it's a batter in danger and a chain link
Speaker 2: fensoul' have done just fine, But you don't put anchored
Speaker 2: and common pret the thirty foot since protected minutes. It
Speaker 2: just doesn't it that fencing alone at it's allus hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars when they cover our Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can go down. You can still go to Smooth go
Speaker 2: to that cave today to get in. They will not
Speaker 2: let you in it. And I think it's because it's
Speaker 2: part of a highway system. I think they know about
Speaker 2: these names. I think they've known about them for a
Speaker 2: long time. And I'll tell you why. I believe they've
Speaker 2: known about them for a long time. And this isn't
Speaker 2: in one of our pet theories when I shouldn't have
Speaker 2: our podcast it's called the Bend Hunters Podcast for on
Speaker 2: every Wednesday and Saturday night at eight pm century we
Speaker 2: talk about this theory and it's thought traction with a
Speaker 2: lot of folks. One of the earliest known accounts on
Speaker 2: the round of a big what attack was from a
Speaker 2: book of call The William of Hunt Area. You might
Speaker 2: know who the book was written by Jeddy Roosevelt. Teddy
Speaker 2: Roosevelt was a huge outdoorsement was one of the big
Speaker 2: champions of hunting and conservation, and he had a big
Speaker 2: foot a game. If you've read The Wilderness Hunter, he
Speaker 2: talks about an incident involving a guy named Bounce that
Speaker 2: remember that name because it becomes important. Why was that
Speaker 2: bounding anywhere? Relayed this story that he was supposedly told
Speaker 2: by a guy named Bout about them going looking for
Speaker 2: beaver felts up into the valley. That the natives in
Speaker 2: the area pulled him to stay out of They figured
Speaker 2: that just what there was plenty of game, and this
Speaker 2: part of the bounder and apartment who was an everything
Speaker 2: goes up into this mountain started putting out trash and
Speaker 2: from ninety one they started using things going around there
Speaker 2: low and after about three days they didn't going through
Speaker 2: their supplies and tearing up their traps. They decided to
Speaker 2: believe that the gay out here, so on the last
Speaker 2: day they started packing up their stuff and Bounding was
Speaker 2: going to go out and get the last remaining apps
Speaker 2: while his partner tapped up camp.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 4: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: When Bowman gets back to camp, he's going to this
Speaker 2: part our dead and that's broken that huge fan of
Speaker 2: marks int that and describe it as the body look
Speaker 2: as if something had rolled along. I get took to
Speaker 2: pick and joy in Chilian must die and then rolled
Speaker 2: on the body. So Bounding basically dropped everything in rain
Speaker 2: and ran until he reached where they had left their horses,
Speaker 2: got the horse, and got the neighborhood back. The Balman
Speaker 2: incident is a truly interesting story because it is one
Speaker 2: of our first documented cases of the things would have packed.
Speaker 2: The Bowman described it as being closest, said to be
Speaker 2: a tall head, Chuman like footprints, massive stride that he
Speaker 2: couldn't do a tupo eg. If y'all get jetsury the story,
Speaker 2: it's really great. One of the reasons that the bound
Speaker 2: and incident stucked out to me, I've spent almost twenty
Speaker 2: years law enforcement. One of the things that stuck out
Speaker 2: of me the most about the Boumond incident was the
Speaker 2: level of detail that now in detail was incredible. And
Speaker 2: I haven't interviewed thy witnesses from domestic Dessaull time interview
Speaker 2: you interviewed I witnesses drugs, Robber Reeves's winning a call.
Speaker 2: You can imagine. I've interduecewed Our readiness is from him,
Speaker 2: and I have never once gotten that much detail out
Speaker 2: of an eyelinness. So one or two things is happening here.
Speaker 2: Either Roosevelt got balm and drum and the guy just
Speaker 2: battling on and on and on told them all these
Speaker 2: stories and then Roosevelt woting down. But if you hadn't,
Speaker 2: if you told the President of the United States, who
Speaker 2: wasn't a time if you told this guy the story
Speaker 2: about you seeing it Bigfoot, and suddenly he puts out
Speaker 2: a book about him. You think somebody would come forward.
Speaker 2: Never happen. Allen was never heard from him in And
Speaker 2: there's the reason why this is getting important. Flash forwards.
Speaker 2: After writing that book as the book to now in
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty two, splash forward or Tenny Roosevelt people personally
Speaker 2: annoying thing. What's one of the first things he does
Speaker 2: is for National Park Service. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys know how many acres are involved in National parks.
Speaker 2: It's about eighty eight point five million acres. So flash
Speaker 2: fo Teddy Roosevelt's health president. He doesn't want people had
Speaker 2: a political class breaks. He's want people to think that
Speaker 2: he'd had monster sighting in the woods. And it's part
Speaker 2: in his child even when he catch blame. So that's
Speaker 2: why I think Teddy was down when he gets the
Speaker 2: better players. Teddy Roosevelt was on the Harvard rowing team.
Speaker 2: He was a college You guys, go, what the rolling
Speaker 2: rowing team does, the little skin can do what the
Speaker 2: nigs like idea called skulls. He was the front guy,
Speaker 2: the number one guy in that along the rowing team
Speaker 2: and because of you. It does. Even the number one
Speaker 2: day in front of its new that was his nickname
Speaker 2: in college. Anybody want to guess what the front man
Speaker 2: and the stall team is called the bound same spelling
Speaker 2: every day. So I firmly believe with just everything I've
Speaker 2: looked at it from a toss point of view, I
Speaker 2: think that when the steady Roads now, if you can
Speaker 2: take that as a leap of faith and it's not
Speaker 2: a huge dream of faith, and I think it's I've
Speaker 2: got a solid case that album actually dig Teddy, But
Speaker 2: if you can take that out of a leap of faith.
Speaker 2: After Teddy created the National Park said he also set
Speaker 2: aside a lot more areas for hunting worsers. Teddy Roosevelt
Speaker 2: was personally responsible for the creation of the Mark Twain
Speaker 2: National Force to Mark Twain pare in Missouri and the Oos.
Speaker 2: A National Force in arcis just between those two national
Speaker 2: courts about five million acres. That's a lot of j
Speaker 2: But here's the ticker. A lot of people will look
Speaker 2: at the national part Native eighty eight one five million
Speaker 2: acres and man, it's a lot. Well, we'll have a
Speaker 2: little deep dive in that. We started looking at the
Speaker 2: government areas like what they call public use areas or
Speaker 2: game reserve areas, wildlife management areas all areas that are
Speaker 2: controlled by the Bureau of band Management, which is a lot.
Speaker 2: Any I want to guess how many acres that are
Speaker 2: actually far under government control that will not allowed to
Speaker 2: have full access to over that's in the United States, States,
Speaker 2: the United States and the last over a billion acres
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to lasses. What's a new I know
Speaker 2: for a fact we have multiple sightings for four years
Speaker 2: of Missouri about the soldier got the station. Heard a
Speaker 2: lot of weird craft in the woods at mine. We
Speaker 2: had a place out there they called a million dollar hole.
Speaker 2: It was an old quarrage that was inactive for young trippers.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't stick your butt out there in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night. Is an unloaded whatever the guard do.
Speaker 2: I've heard some weird craft in the woods out there
Speaker 2: standing guard over an empty pit. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: siders coming out of Fort lender Wood. Anybody would care
Speaker 2: a wolf? Care's guess what Fort wond Wood. It's hard up.
Speaker 2: I mark frowning National Forces and twenty five thousand acres
Speaker 2: of Fort Leonard Wood. Most of it is marked twenty
Speaker 2: National Wars. A lot of these sightings don't the militaries.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a coincidence because most of those
Speaker 2: bases are for thousands of acres out of Fort Campbell.
Speaker 2: I think it's like twenty eight gens and that's just
Speaker 2: maybe thirty minutes outside of a yep. I don't know
Speaker 2: if a veil but it had ever been to Albill,
Speaker 2: but I highly repe probably the creepiest place I've ever
Speaker 2: been in my life, and Land between the Lakes is
Speaker 2: in on the Kentucky Tennessee Board. It's about two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand acres on an a lot of dog
Speaker 2: man sidings ever been put side inside of day is
Speaker 2: truly one of the creepiest places I've ever been. Yell
Speaker 2: stand yes, Land between the Lakes, Oh yeah. But as
Speaker 2: anybody care to gives with underall deal age, plot of
Speaker 2: is very easy for these things to find. It gave
Speaker 2: get to some furs later I use for work security
Speaker 2: when I'm still with Deady. I worked down security over
Speaker 2: my seven Silver Dollar City. Anybody who've ever been to
Speaker 2: Silver Dollar City, anybody ever taken the came dirty? Okay?
Speaker 2: Anyone to hear something creepy after hours when the park
Speaker 2: was closed. I was armed security and I had a
Speaker 2: lot nine millimeter bistol and I had a twelve age
Speaker 2: shock that walk in that partment from the management of
Speaker 2: Silver Dolla City, And I'd give you a direct quote,
Speaker 2: no matter what you hear coming from that cave, do
Speaker 2: not go in at four hours. That was art direct.
Speaker 2: Don't care what you hear, don't go in. They tried
Speaker 2: to tell us of this quiz quick out the year quality.
Speaker 2: If they take tourists from there all day, why in
Speaker 2: the year stud they went back to hunting. But I've
Speaker 2: heard some weird crafts coming from that cave, heard like
Speaker 2: whole moans. I've heard what sounded like language coming out
Speaker 2: of it. It wasn't anything I spoke. It wouldn't even
Speaker 2: sound like I spoken language. It sound I'm more like gibbish.
Speaker 2: And that cave goes for my They fully explored. There's
Speaker 2: a public area, and there's areas they stay out of
Speaker 2: because they don't want to explore because they have fluffed.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to get caught back in a cave.
Speaker 2: They're the flood. I'll tell you that. Whether it's funny,
Speaker 2: how so much of this stuff just conneced together, so
Speaker 2: when you look at the individual things, they don't always
Speaker 2: make a lot of sense. You're like, Okay, that's an
Speaker 2: interesting thing. But when you start connecting the strands of
Speaker 2: the web and pointed out how much of this stuff
Speaker 2: is connected, I think that the government has known about
Speaker 2: these things for a very long time. I think they
Speaker 2: had no amount it since at least Sendy Roosevelt's day,
Speaker 2: maybe even longer. I stumbled across a Printon News picked
Speaker 2: a artible from eighteen twenty two from Indiana little town
Speaker 2: called Edinburgh. In Edinburgh, Indiana, in eighteen twenty two, more
Speaker 2: than a dozen people recorded seeing what they described as
Speaker 2: a since fl baboon. I don't know about you, but
Speaker 2: I've never seen a baboon loose in hills in Missouri.
Speaker 2: I've seen it some weird craft. I've never seen a
Speaker 2: bad boon. But for more than a dozen people to
Speaker 2: describe it as a over six foot told baboon, there's
Speaker 2: nothing in nothing indigenous in North America. It's definitely identified.
Speaker 2: Was up like that. Even a bear Brandon Bears got
Speaker 2: count like, you're not going to confuse a bad boon
Speaker 2: in the babe that's just not going to have to
Speaker 2: see anybody knows, you know, they play. He's had whole
Speaker 2: strand Wood. They were following the Wild Dog and Barrituxus.
Speaker 2: Arkansas has had two in the last month failed Barrick
Speaker 2: X the first one, which was the first one. They add,
Speaker 2: I know, twenty five days when they got two in
Speaker 2: a month. I'm sure you guys heard about the guys
Speaker 2: that in Colorado the old hunders are stripped filling my
Speaker 2: like me, I thought that was odd. I've got a
Speaker 2: buddy who lives out there. Followed Tennis, he said, what's
Speaker 2: up the debt? He said, I'm waiting on the autopsyn
Speaker 2: Worries probably said, probably white Man's for you're up there. Okay. Worldwide,
Speaker 2: more than twenty five thousand people are struck by every
Speaker 2: very few votes. The accountants in the United States doesn't
Speaker 2: know why, but the average is about twenty five a
Speaker 2: year for people to be struck by life. Twenty five
Speaker 2: we had two happened at the same time. All fatalities
Speaker 2: that ended up itself was weird. It's an unlight stood down. Okay,
Speaker 2: I can go with that. Two weeks later, that's lurk
Speaker 2: two hundreds struck by light one okay, okay, two's a
Speaker 2: coincidents thousand of a dad three days ago, another one
Speaker 2: in Colloda an exact same area strepp until late and
Speaker 2: I've seen people hit by lightning. It's obvious. But they
Speaker 2: took over a week to get the autopsy out of
Speaker 2: the first two, which I thought was all that and
Speaker 2: we usually get up. I was a deputy are Freak County.
Speaker 2: We could general and get an autopsy report that in
Speaker 2: forty eight hours. And granted we're not saying Owers or
Speaker 2: Kansas City, but we've still got our autopsy before. It's
Speaker 2: pretty fund pretty get back pretty fast. What it didn't
Speaker 2: take over a week get an autopsy. Let's see just hog.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of hogs. Study. I didn't money to
Speaker 2: make two tears. There's a lot of weird stuff that's
Speaker 2: happening in the world today. Some of it, yes, natural causes.
Speaker 2: I get that it happens. But when academy started urging,
Speaker 2: we've got to ask what's going on. I'm not thinking
Speaker 2: it's this big foot later, I'm not thinking it to
Speaker 2: you up overlate, but I'm just thinking it's weird. It's
Speaker 2: out of the ordinary, and tapping in a lot things
Speaker 2: that didn't happen before, and now becoming almost daily. Every
Speaker 2: everybody remember what happened back in twenty twenty the black
Speaker 2: played in the twenty first century whenever when we started
Speaker 2: shutting everything down, everybody stayed home. We've had it. We've
Speaker 2: noticed this right here in Springfield, animate stamping, when people
Speaker 2: stopped being out, stopping in parks, stop being out on
Speaker 2: the trails, animal skin culture. Can an driver on Springfield
Speaker 2: see there are ringing doorbellt cameras here in town, like
Speaker 2: we're within a mile up here. They've thought a mountain
Speaker 2: long on the ring doorbell camera. There have been black
Speaker 2: bears in people's back yards right here in Springfield. We're
Speaker 2: the third largest city in the statement here, not one
Speaker 2: of what conxactly saying local Campa City, but we're two
Speaker 2: hundred fifty thousand seple in the Great Metro area. And
Speaker 2: the seas animals were way in town bad enough, and
Speaker 2: in and of itself is off. When we started getting
Speaker 2: like deer and other prey animals coming into town. Sure
Speaker 2: the credators are going to fall, but that's also happening
Speaker 2: with bigfoot sudies. We're getting more were fiftooth sightings and
Speaker 2: they were having the four There was a FIFO siting
Speaker 2: here in Springfield, on the north side of town.
Speaker 1: It's half a mile.
Speaker 2: From the city of Winds inside take I've been trying
Speaker 2: to get the video for the last month. Suppose of
Speaker 2: their security can video that the bigfoot going through their dumpsters,
Speaker 2: But I can't hit anybody to get me a copy.
Speaker 2: But the reporter persists paring numerous employees in the restaurant
Speaker 2: had seen him when they go to take the garbage,
Speaker 2: had it, So why not why they're coming into the
Speaker 2: town following the game with another thing I think is
Speaker 2: contributing to that for them coming into looking at trash.
Speaker 2: How many of you guys, if you're hunters, I know
Speaker 2: one of the biggest concerns I have about hunting these
Speaker 2: days is a chronic wasting disease. Whenever you get a deal,
Speaker 2: you can check it in state of Missouri checkick for free.
Speaker 2: You can buy chronic wasting disease as kids. But twenty
Speaker 2: years ago, I'd never heard of chronic wasteing disease, didn't
Speaker 2: even know what it was. It's so interesting to see
Speaker 2: that some guys like Ted Dujit, who is a big
Speaker 2: advocate for observation is claiming that the government released chronic
Speaker 2: ois from the gree bout Purpose, whose first known accounts
Speaker 2: of chronic ostem disease was in telling him Saloo in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven, and from there it's where it's to
Speaker 2: come everywhere. There's only two reasons that would be deliberately
Speaker 2: the one they're trying to lemit what we can hunt,
Speaker 2: or two they're trying to limit what something else to
Speaker 2: uchronium wasting diseases not the only thing that showed up,
Speaker 2: you guys, seems the new thing about rabbits during that
Speaker 2: a cancerous form where they're growing what looks like tentacles
Speaker 2: out of their necks. Why is wild games so that
Speaker 2: they talked to it wasn't for the last thousand years.
Speaker 2: Now in the span of twenty years, just about everything
Speaker 2: we used to hunt, you've got to have you contested
Speaker 2: or you're free beating. Why is that strange? It's just
Speaker 2: another one of those things that really when you look
Speaker 2: at the bigger picture, and we've looked at all these
Speaker 2: things that's connected entities, it starts making a lot more
Speaker 2: sense on why it is you control the food, you
Speaker 2: control the population, and that applies to that applies to
Speaker 2: humans as much as it does to a big put population.
Speaker 2: And you notice that sense of chronic wasting disease is
Speaker 2: really taken off. Just tell me more fine encount's we've
Speaker 2: heard about, especially in the last the violent A games
Speaker 2: are way over. I've got a buddy that lives up there.
Speaker 2: The name's Fred Roll. If you guys have not seen
Speaker 2: the channels of arc sasquats, check it out. FREDI bret dude,
Speaker 2: these first nations from Alaska. He talks about encounter stories
Speaker 2: from the tribes up there that don't generally get calls
Speaker 2: anywhere else because they don't to home down siders. But
Speaker 2: his story is a frank. First time I talked to
Speaker 2: fred If he talked about his first encounter where they
Speaker 2: were at him and his uncle and his cousin were
Speaker 2: attacked a hunting cabin on the of you. It was
Speaker 2: the Act River. He says, they've already got out of
Speaker 2: there with the flies. And when he told me the story,
Speaker 2: he literally broke me down telling him his story, and
Speaker 2: he had stopped, couldn't go on. He had he had this.
Speaker 2: We had to wait about fifteen minutes where he could
Speaker 2: finish the story. Can you see somebody physically shaking talking
Speaker 2: about on these stories? I give them a lot of credence.
Speaker 2: And when you interview people, I would probably the interview
Speaker 2: put the house of people over the years. When you
Speaker 2: interview people, when you see people, you know, if you
Speaker 2: have any goose bump reactions or the hair stands going
Speaker 2: in orund their arms, or they they're voice catches, that's
Speaker 2: set that kind of stuff hard to think. You're seeing
Speaker 2: somebody having a viscial reaction to something they saw. And
Speaker 2: you've got two kinds of people. When they have a
Speaker 2: big foot siding. I talked to a lot of both,
Speaker 2: you've got to hold the first time they see it,
Speaker 2: they don't believe what they saw and they never want
Speaker 2: to see it again. And then you've got idiots like
Speaker 2: me if you want to go running up the woods
Speaker 2: see if it can finance. But those are general the
Speaker 2: two reactions. You want to know more. You want to
Speaker 2: pretend it didn't happen. I fine, I'm telling you from
Speaker 2: going to training seminars where the the topic would tell
Speaker 2: each other's stuff, they will not talk about public because
Speaker 2: we got a lot of boots. I'm not tired now,
Speaker 2: I don't get a crap. I don't have to be
Speaker 2: a testifying cort. I don't give me that stuff. I'll
Speaker 2: talk about this stuff on that. But I know a
Speaker 2: lot of guys that are still active and they will
Speaker 2: not tell their story. One of the best that I
Speaker 2: heard was from a guy who the deputy. I won't
Speaker 2: tell you what county, but it was along the Missouri
Speaker 2: Arkansas board.
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Speaker 2: It was deer hunting in a section of the Mark
Speaker 2: Training National Force. There we go Mark running him. It
Speaker 2: was deer hunting in a section of the Mark Training
Speaker 2: National Forces and going to the same spot for years.
Speaker 2: One day he goes up to his deer stand. He said,
Speaker 2: about three in the morning, He said, out there, so
Speaker 2: we get everything settled in here. Like to get out
Speaker 2: there early. You gotta a tree stand. He had a
Speaker 2: soft side and like thrmal lunchbox. He took from the
Speaker 2: soft side lunch arch boxes with a cooler back and
Speaker 2: a few blowmy sayings, and he said it was apple.
Speaker 2: He pictures with him gets up to his deer standing,
Speaker 2: wraps at a strapper on his legs so he doesn't
Speaker 2: drop it and dozed up. It was a few hours
Speaker 2: until summrising. He had time dozed up. He said, next thing,
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt something pulling on that lunch force,
Speaker 2: he said. He opened his eyes and looked down, and
Speaker 2: that thing's head was at knee level with his knee.
Speaker 2: He said, I was a good ten foot off the ground.
Speaker 2: He said, it was tugging on that lunch. That's what
Speaker 2: you do. It said, don't fucking stratton. I didn't have
Speaker 2: it because I wouldn't have to die over too blown
Speaker 2: the sandwiches. And I said, well, didn't want you to
Speaker 2: do he said. He said, I'm not. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: not afraid. Good minuting. He said, oh, I was gonna
Speaker 2: kiss myself up in my tree. He said, I'm better
Speaker 2: have the lunchbox and watched it walk away. I said,
Speaker 2: you ever think about shooting? He said, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I had got sloped down. He said, I think wants massive,
Speaker 2: So I said, didn't want it. He said, oh, wait
Speaker 2: until I was sure it was gone and I can
Speaker 2: no longer hear walking, He said the clint and astown
Speaker 2: out of that deer stand. I went back to my
Speaker 2: truck and I in the woods. He said, I've been fact,
Speaker 2: I've sold my deer quip. Will not go back out there.
Speaker 2: He said back, if you want that deer stand, I'll
Speaker 2: take over that, but I'm not going back back there
Speaker 2: to get it. And uh he drew me an app sure, no,
Speaker 2: they're out there. What was left that they'd been out
Speaker 2: there a few years. And that's just one of many cases.
Speaker 2: And if you guys are familiar with the missing pool,
Speaker 2: one one cases. David Flyde is sophoer officer. He does
Speaker 2: forensic analysis of weird cases. And they had to meet
Speaker 2: it specific price. Anybody that goes missing in a national park,
Speaker 2: it doesn't to a file that, but they've got to
Speaker 2: go missing under very specific service. So those go on
Speaker 2: to need cherry picks. Those and even with those the
Speaker 2: what's the good new apartment? Their friends in national parks,
Speaker 2: national parks every anyway, they're very chintzy in the amount
Speaker 2: of information they'll give that. In fact, they will not
Speaker 2: even admit they amount of people that are missing at
Speaker 2: national parks because it's haggled internally. It's never there invite
Speaker 2: in outside law enforcement. Melissa the d News conducted, so
Speaker 2: we have actually no idea how people go missing our
Speaker 2: national parks, but they would go out of the profiles.
Speaker 2: Only the weird ones. And one of the most recent
Speaker 2: ones he's been doing is called missing flowing. One of
Speaker 2: the hunters, and these are guys who are familiar with
Speaker 2: the area and under that area for years. We're add
Speaker 2: and just vanished without a choice. Guys that had enough
Speaker 2: wood craft skills they could have got back from their
Speaker 2: view or new to stay in place. Here hunters, help
Speaker 2: me out here as you fall, fred your ankle out
Speaker 2: in the woods, what's the universe assign to help me?
Speaker 1: Shot?
Speaker 2: Shot? Three shots in the air. Never happened in the
Speaker 2: eighties deaths. They just vanished armed hunters two ball arms.
Speaker 2: I mean, end episode was a lot enough, But I
Speaker 2: thought that probably two or three dozen deer hunters over
Speaker 2: the years that have gone three hundred sides and they
Speaker 2: said I didn't take the shot because it looked two resume.
Speaker 2: But I think the missing four to one hunters took
Speaker 2: the shot. I think they took the shot and pisted
Speaker 2: it off. I would not try to bring down one
Speaker 2: thousand family. I'm will look two twenty three. It's not happening.
Speaker 2: A deer hundred two twenty three, a deer hundred with
Speaker 2: three las, but small calendar like that. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say small caliber. And you take down
Speaker 2: a deer with the two twenty three, anybody over here
Speaker 2: is probably due dune. Would you go elt hunting on
Speaker 2: the two twenty three? That's too much ball. That's a
Speaker 2: lot of thick mustle, a lot of thick bone. Same
Speaker 2: thing with big truth, they're a lot bigger. They're bigger
Speaker 2: than we are. The thick bone, heavy mustle two twenty
Speaker 2: three probably up to a lot of bage, finely to
Speaker 2: a lot of painting, and that thing I was trapping
Speaker 2: about twelve or fifty fet er step of that. But
Speaker 2: people were talking about big animals with heavy muscles, heavy
Speaker 2: boneber So I think the guys that there were logan
Speaker 2: for gear who took the shot, all they really did
Speaker 2: was get it attention, which is a bad thing to do,
Speaker 2: or if I'm a lucky shot, if they took one out.
Speaker 2: I don't think these teams are ever alone. Very rarely
Speaker 2: we encountered an individual front being driven home from a
Speaker 2: clihybrand family buying larger. You see one, you probably there's
Speaker 2: probably eighty others you felt us, which is why even
Speaker 2: though when I go on on the woods, I go larmed,
Speaker 2: I would shoot one unless I absolutely had to maybe
Speaker 2: be one of those between getting me and me getting
Speaker 2: beat dying, or someone else that I'm with dying. Then
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the guy who drags wanted
Speaker 2: in town that's gonna open up its own home cattle fish.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking to bring one down, never have,
Speaker 2: never will with it comes what if? What if they
Speaker 2: are close? Thing? Really up to this? What if they
Speaker 2: are that intelligent and basically you just murdered somebody, So
Speaker 2: the same the same thing with the person if I
Speaker 2: the only thing I will ever and the only time
Speaker 2: I have little drawing my weapon off Perstuss and defends
Speaker 2: my home, fence, my family, same thing with me and
Speaker 2: I take fire arms, I will not use the less have.
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably what's been the same e
Speaker 2: grace for a lot of them. Does they didn't take
Speaker 2: this out. It really estranged me about all this. And
Speaker 2: the only these sightings of the encounters is they're on
Speaker 2: the rocks. We've been having war coming in. I've been
Speaker 2: deciding with reports every day I'm an email confidence, and inevitably,
Speaker 2: as territories encroach, some of those encounters come to be
Speaker 2: by them, So you've got to be jiffy. That's It's
Speaker 2: just the same thing with any animal out there. If
Speaker 2: you catch it on a bad day, it's no good
Speaker 2: on the counter. I was a rocking enter in the
Speaker 2: National Park with some buddies and went back back, came
Speaker 2: back in the late eighties, and I kept telling them
Speaker 2: I hear a bear. I'm then like, you' here a bear.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling me I hear a bear, And They're like, nah,
Speaker 2: there's no bears up here. And day the ranch just
Speaker 2: told us grizzlies up there on the rockies, I hear
Speaker 2: a bear. Luck, you're just being paranoid. We rounded a
Speaker 2: corner and I would have switched out and touched his
Speaker 2: bear on the nose. I played this game with my dog, ragled,
Speaker 2: but hit him on those and you at me want
Speaker 2: that I could have done that with the bear. And
Speaker 2: the first thing I said was don't run, not from
Speaker 2: the predatory game takes him the predatory instincts. The first
Speaker 2: thing I said was don't run. What do I hear?
Speaker 2: I love that. I was the only one there because
Speaker 2: we in the bed. If good buddy's there, I was
Speaker 2: listening to this bear. I could have went hit him
Speaker 2: right on those and I think at that particular moment
Speaker 2: the bear and I had this little connection because in
Speaker 2: my brain I was like, oh, it's a bear and
Speaker 2: the bear was like, oh, shift you're doing. And it
Speaker 2: went one way and I had the other. Now had
Speaker 2: it they have getting close to hibernation season. Or if
Speaker 2: that had been a mama the cubs give me story,
Speaker 2: I would have been dead before I could have DIGNI
Speaker 2: a step. But it went one way. I want the other.
Speaker 2: And it was a peaceful in gain happens happens with
Speaker 2: wil animals all the time. But try that went down
Speaker 2: the moose moose is and I'm ging you get to
Speaker 2: consider the praise peces. The moose was soomby to death.
Speaker 2: I remember people killed in the last every year by
Speaker 2: moose and decks. So any time you count a while,
Speaker 2: now you have the potential for it being at behind
Speaker 2: anting count. And then if you're gonna go on the wood,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be going out camping, fishing, hunting, back
Speaker 2: backing for the hunting, just be sick. Be careful because
Speaker 2: there are things out there, especially in Missouri, that'll kill
Speaker 2: you if it gets a chicken, snakes, wolves, tie outs,
Speaker 2: air if you believe mean wild dogs, if you believe
Speaker 2: left you going on in Kentucky and Tennessee. I hear
Speaker 2: up a farm kid. We build a lot of dogs.
Speaker 2: You can't afford to love them. Take down your livestyle.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it be a neyed of with him
Speaker 2: to Kentucky, Tennessee. One of the ladies that was killed,
Speaker 2: I believe her last name was Apron. She was killed
Speaker 2: at Crook County, Tennessee. She was missing forty percent of
Speaker 2: her flesh lived long enough, he gets the hospital. Dogs
Speaker 2: don't even forty percent of a person in that thought
Speaker 2: a big tread. But they swear it down those dogs.
Speaker 2: And here's the kicker at the top. I've learned this.
Speaker 2: Used to they would just say no comment. But then
Speaker 2: and the old we got a lot of call the
Speaker 2: Freedom of Information Act. You can use the Freedom of
Speaker 2: Information Act requests to get the fives because their public record,
Speaker 2: any case and it's closed, is subject to a PRESI
Speaker 2: the friendom of Information had called. So now they're not
Speaker 2: closing the cases now they leave them open cases. See
Speaker 2: give me freedom of innovation of acted. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: there was an Amazon drivers killed here in La Area
Speaker 2: up near Pantas City. I don't know. They blamed it
Speaker 2: on the dogs. They said the dogs in the house
Speaker 2: that he was delivering the package to killed one. You
Speaker 2: know how they got the dogs. They can keep the
Speaker 2: door in on the house and went in and shot
Speaker 2: the dogs in the house. Dogs in the body Amazon
Speaker 2: drivers next to this truck. That's still an open case.
Speaker 2: I talked to the corner and the sheriff of that county.
Speaker 2: Both of them said they've never seen the body torn
Speaker 2: up that death in their courage that one of those
Speaker 2: dogs was a mask. I've only asked this like, okay,
Speaker 2: those dogs are do the m lazy to attack for
Speaker 2: if they are the laziest dogs on the planet, where
Speaker 2: dogs I loves ours. Our masters could be eating my
Speaker 2: boys can't take food right out of his mouth. And
Speaker 2: he just looked at him like what who's he good for?
Speaker 2: I believes that they're not aggressive dogs, and well they're
Speaker 2: making good for you look not bad at press. It's
Speaker 2: got to be stuff I'm really bad and get a
Speaker 2: massive view aggressive so I don't believe it for a
Speaker 2: set that it just randomly attacked some driver find inside
Speaker 2: the house while the driver is outside. It's next to
Speaker 2: those treatments. Idn't buy that. But it's still considered an
Speaker 2: open case. Even though they publicly said the dogs did it.
Speaker 2: Case closed. Case is still open and won't reveal any
Speaker 2: I've tried twice to screen information at that they won't
Speaker 2: give us a stay. That seems to be the new
Speaker 2: no comment. They just to leave the case over so
Speaker 2: he can never be something by a preview information. Now,
Speaker 2: anybody I got any questions.
Speaker 5: At the Star the military, you can't from all out
Speaker 5: and talking about it.
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys only come forward after they're
Speaker 2: out of the military. While they're in. If they come
Speaker 2: forward at all, they come forward off the record. Eric back,
Speaker 2: there was our station with Camplington. Was it Camplington? I
Speaker 2: was enjoy why the word and we're doing it? Was
Speaker 2: they had the sights?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just did a video.
Speaker 2: On the nineteen sixty eight came Venterton and I was
Speaker 2: then in my for the Vendom poptions. I know it
Speaker 2: exactly the patient tar I interview the guy who was
Speaker 2: still active at the time who was doing the MP
Speaker 2: training in Port Leonard work. He said, they were coming
Speaker 2: back from the field an FTX. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys, it's a field training exercise. He was coming
Speaker 2: back to the FTX they did out on Arrange night
Speaker 2: five since that four flock and one and they were
Speaker 2: coming back. He was in the back of the deuce
Speaker 2: stam about half asleep. He said he was awoken by
Speaker 2: one of the other guys in the guy of the
Speaker 2: douce snap screen. He opened his eyes and there was
Speaker 2: a hairy on had reached into the back of the
Speaker 2: deuceman and took the case of anymore anybody's having found
Speaker 2: him or reason those that's a punishment worse than death
Speaker 2: chicken all crass. It's at least better than the one
Speaker 2: that based fall be chatted with being come telling me
Speaker 2: that founds tasty right there. It's a freeze drive. You
Speaker 2: have to reconstitute it padded the beef. If you reconstituted
Speaker 2: fin directions of form water, you get hot dog SuDS.
Speaker 2: If you reconstooed it with cold water and just get
Speaker 2: cold dog food. So the only way we could eat
Speaker 2: it was crush it up into the beans. And mix
Speaker 2: it up. Even then it taste it like crap. Those MRI's,
Speaker 2: I felt sorry for it. Two guarantee things about the MRI's.
Speaker 2: There are certain things that will get you the cracks
Speaker 2: and certain things that will lock you up for days,
Speaker 2: and they are affordable. Is if you don't get them together,
Speaker 2: you're in a lot of trouble. But yeah, reached in,
Speaker 2: reached in the back, produced to have to face it.
Speaker 2: I said, what do you guys do about it? You go?
Speaker 2: We told the instructors and they told us to keep
Speaker 2: it to ourselves and not pop about it. So this
Speaker 2: happens fairly regularly. But there are a number of Air
Speaker 2: Force facings that are constantly having to send security place
Speaker 2: off because they've gotten into the Bigfoot, have gotten into
Speaker 2: the tunnels beneath face those fly cops. Happens all the time,
Speaker 2: fairly out and some of what they off the mits.
Speaker 2: And just because it's a desert, don't take them not
Speaker 2: out there. They certainly are. These things can adapt to
Speaker 2: any environment, just like we. I believe that the baby
Speaker 2: foot are on nemberus much like us. I think they'll
Speaker 2: eat anything. But here's the funny thing, Bigfoot, especially when
Speaker 2: the the siding air forces waiting to look at them.
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot like bears. I think
Speaker 2: the bears is a perfect and out down here in
Speaker 2: a little over forty eight we got black bears are
Speaker 2: really big. Blackie is about six hundred pigs and that's good.
Speaker 2: Sounds like they're on members, sully berries, delly, ro jail, deli, trash, belly,
Speaker 2: eat pretty much anything they find. The constantly borrows m
Speaker 2: and in the spring they live pretty much off berries
Speaker 2: because it's a very high gallery meal and they can
Speaker 2: really wolf about those berry packs that you can see out. Okay,
Speaker 2: those aren't very risks. Once in a bloom we hear
Speaker 2: about a blackie at that not off little farther north
Speaker 2: get into Grisbly Territory, Bristol's ron nimbers, delly berries, lly,
Speaker 2: deer belly eating they can catch. But they will also
Speaker 2: eat roots and berries and pieces of trees, and it'll
Speaker 2: eat just about anything, especially when it's getting close to
Speaker 2: that pation. They got that fat, but they're not also
Speaker 2: they're also not opposed to getting the occasional hike. Grizzly
Speaker 2: bears are a lot more common attacks on humans and
Speaker 2: they're generally failed because you got something that weighed as
Speaker 2: much as a volkswagon coming again, odds are real good.
Speaker 2: You're not going to survive to be attacked. There was
Speaker 2: an incident reported. They had believe it was a Penali
Speaker 2: National Guard. I got this so park rangers when I
Speaker 2: was looked for the guy and they found what was
Speaker 2: left at his campsite. And then this park ranger was
Speaker 2: charged by one of the largest bears that were killed.
Speaker 2: And it's gonna last goose over to both of you
Speaker 2: tall and wait just north sixteen hundreds. It had killed
Speaker 2: and eaten that hike. And this is I've gotta tell
Speaker 2: you that I got my hats off to that park
Speaker 2: ranger because I would have been it would have been
Speaker 2: a very brown pensil moment if you get my meat.
Speaker 2: He had the present it's a mine. He had loaded
Speaker 2: a seven magnet into this thing, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if you guys ever shot as pretty powerful rifle. He
Speaker 2: dunloaded it into this thing and reloaded as he was
Speaker 2: backing it up and emptied it again. Finally killed the bear.
Speaker 2: When they get the bear and they do it acrops
Speaker 2: you on the bear. Of course they found they killed
Speaker 2: them a missing Hyper, but what they also found in
Speaker 2: the bear plus six slugs from a thirty eight caliber
Speaker 2: pistol at it's a chest play never penetrated beyond the
Speaker 2: chest to start. They got six in there and they
Speaker 2: found the gun. The club was left to the hyper.
Speaker 2: Bears are like sharks of the land. They're gonna need it.
Speaker 2: They just got you you need. But as poor Hyper
Speaker 2: was as good all that and thirty eight caliber and
Speaker 2: not enough to stop the bear oday airs, especially grizzlies,
Speaker 2: canon people. It's constantly documented, and they're a little more
Speaker 2: colder weather mostly mountains bordered states and now was aggressive.
Speaker 2: The the black bears we have here lowered in the
Speaker 2: lower States, but they tend to be a bit more aggressive.
Speaker 2: Are you even farther north into polar bear territory? One
Speaker 2: hundred percent of meat. It doesn't need berries. It needs
Speaker 2: people that are slow, and they eat seals and needs
Speaker 2: fish occasional cameraman, but bears are not to be messed with.
Speaker 2: They're not jokes.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 4: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: In Alaska, they tell people to leave their car doors
Speaker 2: along so they can jump in the car polar bears
Speaker 2: chasing it tells me that it happens often enough that
Speaker 2: they worry about it. I don't want to be chased
Speaker 2: by polar bear. It is currently the largest living mare
Speaker 2: of treaties on the planet. But there's a hunting guy
Speaker 2: in Alaska that thinks it's not the only species run it.
Speaker 2: Are you guys ever heard of the short faced bed?
Speaker 2: Short faced bear is depletely one to extinct about fifty
Speaker 2: thousand years ago. It's possible remin the populations of that
Speaker 2: could exist up in the deep North like Alaska and
Speaker 2: northern parts Canada. There's so few people live up there.
Speaker 2: As a guy took a couple of felt utters out,
Speaker 2: they dropped an elk, and this massive bear charged out,
Speaker 2: grabbed the elk and draggon relves. And the way they
Speaker 2: described it was it sound like a short faced bear.
Speaker 2: And I hope the god of Simes are still out there,
Speaker 2: because the short faced bear on average got nine two
Speaker 2: feet tall at time legs and weighed north of a tongue.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine sending in your deerstand that thing's going
Speaker 2: to knocked the tree over to get you out of
Speaker 2: that dear stand and those are daminas we know exists.
Speaker 2: But short faced bear we've got fossil records to show
Speaker 2: it exists. Dire Whips we know they exist. We've got
Speaker 2: all kinds of fossil records of things like dan in
Speaker 2: the Soviet There's about a dozen different humanoid creatures that
Speaker 2: have died out over the millennium. Data are on the
Speaker 2: same family tree as US Australia pithopis felt out man.
Speaker 2: There's about six p of them if you book back
Speaker 2: at the evolution of comminence across this planet. So why
Speaker 2: is it so hard to believe that something that looks
Speaker 2: a block like one of those mister still longer? Which
Speaker 2: I've talked to me about a couple of times. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people that think very highly of
Speaker 2: her research, and other people that say she's just crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I'm allomopically form an opinion.
Speaker 2: I hope it's accurate. I really do. Because of the
Speaker 2: loss of Damer and Eldman this year, we're gonna need science.
Speaker 2: It's a fact that suck who really are thin need
Speaker 2: more mainstream scientists to take this serious? Have you any
Speaker 2: of you guys ever heard of a book called Them
Speaker 2: and Us by Danny Vendermen brave book that if you
Speaker 2: haven't read it, the full title is Them and Us
Speaker 2: How Neanderthal predation shaped modern man. The infolds a player
Speaker 2: and back in the eighteen hundred person in the NFL
Speaker 2: stoles the skeletons for a discovery the Old British Museum.
Speaker 2: They put her together and they made a look as
Speaker 2: human as they could. But Danny Vendervini had a friends
Speaker 2: again topologist to construct the skeleton to hem and what
Speaker 2: they came up. What's what I'm thinking. You guys haven't
Speaker 2: a chance to look it up on Google and look
Speaker 2: at images. Look up Danny vind We need him and us.
Speaker 2: What the amber thought reconstruction looks like is identical to
Speaker 2: the description of a lot of people are giving out
Speaker 2: the Sasquatch. It's covered in dark fur, it's bigger than us,
Speaker 2: bitterer eyes with a monologue and white in him. Looked
Speaker 2: up with him and us, you were going to be
Speaker 2: terrified because if that, if he's correct, that is probably
Speaker 2: the best theory for what sasquatch is in my opinion,
Speaker 2: because we know what existed and the characteristics, we can
Speaker 2: explain their hair shafts to that. I'm lousive. These are
Speaker 2: all slainable scientifically by things that already exist in the
Speaker 2: in the fossil red and I think to not compare
Speaker 2: those is a huge disservice to everybody that's done before.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to take. It's gonna take people that
Speaker 2: are approaching this scientifically. It's gonna take people who are
Speaker 2: dedicated to proving these things exist without putting crazy theories
Speaker 2: on the If they're hard, time took people they exist,
Speaker 2: let alone that they take them. Say to it takes
Speaker 2: or whatever it is. And I'm not saying that's not costible.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying every once
Speaker 2: in a while, we'd mind something big. If anybody ever
Speaker 2: hear of the BILLI ach cool. The Billy eight was
Speaker 2: a legend in the Congo Basin. The natives in the
Speaker 2: Congo Basin had been four decades. For as long as
Speaker 2: we've been contacting, probably one hundred years or more, had
Speaker 2: been telling stories of what they called two or apes.
Speaker 2: They called them Alan hunters. The Billy eight was thought
Speaker 2: to be a myth for all of the explorers who
Speaker 2: went and asked Jack after on that does exist. Nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine they found him. They were trying to put
Speaker 2: out camera traps to catch something else in tyro and
Speaker 2: that's when they discovered the billiate b i l I,
Speaker 2: not Bilwai bi l the billy ach. It's a six
Speaker 2: foot tall relative of the chimpanzee that spends most of
Speaker 2: its time walking on two legs, uses his weapons hung slions,
Speaker 2: and is known to carrettell villagers what does that sound?
Speaker 2: And that's a modern discovery in our life. What we
Speaker 2: fifty years ago wouldn't believe exist. Hell, one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty years ago, no people believe the Managin to really exist.
Speaker 2: Now we know how many times of expeditions going up
Speaker 2: in the mountains by the Africa but not seeing amram guts.
Speaker 2: That's why they didn't look that exist all. We've been
Speaker 2: up there dozens of times, we've never seen one. Because
Speaker 2: they're very good pipe. So that's exactening what we've got
Speaker 2: with the modern been put. They don't want me and
Speaker 2: they're very good at height. So when you go out
Speaker 2: there in the woods, look at them up look around.
Speaker 2: One of the best things you can do. And this
Speaker 2: is better than any gadget, any pacific equipment, any high
Speaker 2: take a piece of computerized software. This is the best
Speaker 2: thing you can do if you're really going to hell
Speaker 2: one seasons. Go to an area, set down and shut
Speaker 2: just before it. Give it about half an hour forty
Speaker 2: five minutes. The sounds of the woods will start turning,
Speaker 2: because if you go out there, any deer hunderds are
Speaker 2: going to know that you're getting your earscaned. Everything goes
Speaker 2: dead white until everything around you. It gets everything around
Speaker 2: you comp gets used to your presence. Everything's fine except
Speaker 2: that will and ansel, the squirrel it's gonna counting to
Speaker 2: try to give you a wook. So many times I
Speaker 2: wanted to just turn and shoot that squorld and then
Speaker 2: again do that and you're never been seen. Gear gotta
Speaker 2: be quiet. If you don't sit and listen, you never
Speaker 2: don't have an experience. Generally speaking, they will respond more
Speaker 2: to just trying to figure out what you're doing. Then
Speaker 2: they will be making all the loops of the world.
Speaker 2: And if I had had a good respond by doing that,
Speaker 2: but I've had much better response just quite setting. Still listen. Question.
Speaker 5: Some time ago I hurry where people were thinking that
Speaker 5: the biggest set it actually is a piece of dance
Speaker 5: a tree.
Speaker 6: It's actually them, thank you for that would instead of
Speaker 6: a piece of wood. And they were saying that, you
Speaker 6: think about how often does the bix but have the.
Speaker 2: Piece of wood that they treat them.
Speaker 5: And at the beginning of your speaking you were talking
Speaker 5: about all the different noises and stout and they make
Speaker 5: the whoopend noise and everything.
Speaker 2: Else, So why couldn't they make tree not noise with them. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm one hundredercent on board with you. I'm one hundred
Speaker 2: percent on board with you. Yeah, I don't know who
Speaker 2: you guys haven't been on the woods. Picked up a
Speaker 2: stick like at our tree, branch off the ground? Can
Speaker 2: it against the tree? About eighty percent of the time
Speaker 2: it just explodes. Yeah, any branch it's spent on the
Speaker 2: ground for any time, it all starts to rock. And
Speaker 2: if you hit that branch and need to treat, you're
Speaker 2: just gonna send frightens a crap out everywhere. So I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure a big pit's not walking around the woods
Speaker 2: with a Louisville Slugger over shoulder, just waiting for somebody
Speaker 2: to go so we can go back. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's that I think. I'm not saying a twenty percent
Speaker 2: all of them, but I think a very good chunk
Speaker 2: of it is. I think so too, because it makes
Speaker 2: sense that they're not always but I have that piece
Speaker 2: of wood readily available to people on a tree.
Speaker 6: Marriage from what I understand, it's basically like the same
Speaker 6: sound hitting a tree, which different kinds of wood, instead
Speaker 6: of a different sound.
Speaker 2: So that's just what I was wondering what you were
Speaker 2: thinking about that. I think some of it's done with
Speaker 2: the mouth. I think some of it is done fucking
Speaker 2: chest slack. I've heard guerrillas do that makes a very
Speaker 2: deep something because they got a big barrel chest. I've
Speaker 2: heard that in the woods it sounds thump thong man,
Speaker 2: that's not a tongue pop. I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: of what they can take, not just the tongue pups.
Speaker 2: But as far as the wooden knock sound, I'm convinced
Speaker 2: that it is probably at least ninety percent to so
Speaker 2: and so is to me, that just makes more sense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you think big puts out there with a freaking heavy
Speaker 2: lumbered to a little clunder over his shoulder pointing to
Speaker 2: wrap out horse code. Do his buddies. You've just got
Speaker 2: something that he keeps on all the time. As Jim
Speaker 2: Doug's right, But you mentioned primes d exist. What happens
Speaker 2: you succeed in the enemy the grape and I'm see
Speaker 2: follow up through up crime and protection on this stener.
Speaker 2: If the government ever comes forward amidst these things exists
Speaker 2: or we have definitive proof, they're gonna have instantly be
Speaker 2: gonna taking pieces. I guess remember what happened in the
Speaker 2: Oregon back in the eighties when they discover any certain
Speaker 2: species at owl, it's shipt logging down in that area
Speaker 2: for thirty years. It's gonna have that exact same sept.
Speaker 2: We've already got the land set aside, and we were
Speaker 2: talking about there earlier over a billion acres that was
Speaker 2: owned by the government and we're not about that full
Speaker 2: access to eating today over a billion acres. So they
Speaker 2: could do it. They could court an off entire areas,
Speaker 2: and I think they are diet and I think we
Speaker 2: call them national parks. Yeah, you go into Yellowstone, there
Speaker 2: are areas you can't there are places that you just
Speaker 2: can't go. And they even tell the part rangers got
Speaker 2: well rangers gonn miss it. They just don't want to,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately it doesn't. And I'm not saying it's all
Speaker 2: big foot predation. I'm not saying enough, Timmy wanton Wood,
Speaker 2: you can buy a big foot. I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: at all. What I'm saying is, remember the bear. Nine
Speaker 2: times out of ten, you could have a perfectly peaceful
Speaker 2: and counter. You can catch one in a bad move,
Speaker 2: or you get too close to the kid, or and
Speaker 2: it's old and can't hunt anymore. What do you think?
Speaker 2: You've got a big foot that's frugush in seventy for
Speaker 2: the human years, not as fast as he once was,
Speaker 2: Lincoln and misses and teeth, can't hunt like he used to.
Speaker 2: He steps on on the trail. He looks to his
Speaker 2: left and there's a deer rather than about forty miles
Speaker 2: an hour up the hill. And he looks to his
Speaker 2: right and he sees a guy broking stocks with headphones on,
Speaker 2: dipping down the trail. He's gonna go. We want that thing,
Speaker 2: tastes like because he's gonna catch So I think it's opportunistic.
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're constantly on the venue, So
Speaker 2: I think there's more things like chronic wasting disease, of
Speaker 2: the diseases among rabbits, and other diseases that are appeared
Speaker 2: A pair him. I think it's gonna have to find
Speaker 2: a hundred foxes. If you're filling, go out of the woods.
Speaker 2: If you're got go out looking for big float, champion
Speaker 2: unting fish and whatever. Be careful, protect yourself and come home, sit,
Speaker 2: take a med kit. Takes something to protect yourself. And
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, then once you
Speaker 2: get to the homestaye, once you guys to experience the woods,
Speaker 2: because a day of the woods to me is better
Speaker 2: than any day of the city. I don't take a
Speaker 2: day of the woods over a game in the city
Speaker 2: any day, even if I don't have the day thing.
Speaker 2: A day of the woods is a day well spent
Speaker 2: to me. And if you're going to have a chance
Speaker 2: to really appreciate INChO out that you really should take
Speaker 2: a full food chair behind you, a placed by a
Speaker 2: river and sit in and you'll find your stress melting away.
Speaker 2: Be safe because there are things out there, especially during
Speaker 2: that can only there's tutors, ammonis, dios wolves. There are
Speaker 2: worlds in Missouri. They didn't use fee. They've been reintroduced,
Speaker 2: oh plus snakes, no groups, and then we've got the
Speaker 2: worst of all, the greater North American myth. You never
Speaker 2: know what a legal bro or somebody flab out the
Speaker 2: woods the composer. You get shot over that I have
Speaker 2: anything else. That's my point. My closing is, if you're
Speaker 2: going out there, please be safe, Please be care of
Speaker 2: your pleasures and take good notes. Have they say take
Speaker 2: only pictures, leave only photos. Thank you In