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Speaker 2: We got Jay Drew, Cougar Sports insider representing the Dead

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Speaker 3: No take my dishes to the sink and stuff like that, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jay, Let's start off with b YU basketball.

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Speaker 1: Got a little bit uh Uh. Cougarnation got a little

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bit answer.

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Speaker 2: You got a little bit scared Delaware oh and two

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coming in and.

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Speaker 1: UH had a nice healthy lead in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Cougarnation was kind of on their heels, appalled at b

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Speaker 1: What happened in this game in the first half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was rather shocking. This is a

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team that on Friday lost to a Division two team,

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Wilmington University, So yeah, it was. It was a shocker.

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It was a combination of a lot of things. They first,

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they made some unbelievable shots. It banked in three pointers

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from the top of the key. They were but you know,

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give them credit. They came to play, and they were

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not intimidated, and and and they looked good.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Young in the post game said that credited them.

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He said they had a good game plan.

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Speaker 4: He said they basically slowed it down and kind of

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played like air Force used to back in the day,

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and then just took a three pointer.

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Speaker 3: Kind of at the end of the shot clock. And

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then they played zone.

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Speaker 4: The zone that kind of befuddled by U's offense for

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quite some time. So combination of those two things, you know,

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Young in the post game maybe someone else if they

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were looking past Delaware two towards Yukon on Saturday, and

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Speaker 3: And it was maybe.

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Speaker 4: So I thought that was pretty honest of him, because

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a lot of coaches will never admit that in a

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Speaker 3: But you know, maybe they were some truth to that,

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that that they were.

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Speaker 4: Caught looking ahead a little bit and and didn't really

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take Delaware too seriously. And and for you know, thirty

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minutes of the game, it was a it was a ballgame.

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It was it was a close game and and then

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by you pulled away at the end.

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Speaker 2: Any concerns about this BAU basketball team, it's very early, right.

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well resourced team. Is there really any concerns about this

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BAU basketball team so early in the season, You.

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Speaker 4: Know, I there are a few. I you know, it's

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gonna be a good team. It's gonna be a great team.

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Speaker 3: Maybe some concerns. Can they can they?

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Speaker 4: You know, I've written before this is final four or

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bust with with the amount of talent they have on

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this team. So right now, is it looking like a

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Final four team? I would probably say no, not yet,

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but I but I think it can be. The talent

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it is certainly there. I think the loss of Nate Pickens,

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who's they announced last week is going has already had

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surgery and we'll be out for the year. That's a

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little bit troubling because Rob Wright played thirty seven minutes

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last night at point guard, and beyond him, they don't

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really have another true point guard on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Dawson Baker can play it.

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Speaker 4: A little bit, obviously, AJ and Richie can play some.

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It can handle the ball, but that could be troubling

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down the road. And then and then another big thing

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is the three point shooting has not been great. Richie

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picked it up in the second half last night and

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was phenomenal. I think it was six of eight from three.

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AJ and Rob Wright and Dawson and some of these

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other guys, everybody not named Kevin Kaida probably needs to

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be able to hit some three pointers.

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Speaker 3: Through you know, through three games.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Moross, the guy they brought in from Idaho to

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hit threes, has not really done done so.

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Speaker 3: So Kevin Young said last night that they're still waiting.

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Speaker 4: They're giving him plenty of chances, and they're kind of

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still waiting for him to show what he can do.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, there are some concerns.

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Speaker 4: The perimeter defense was a little suspect last night, as

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you know, as Delaware was casting off and making a

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lot of three pointers on him. So but I'm not

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overly concerned. I think, you know, you just look at

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this roster and this talent, and you know, right now,

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they look like they have as much talent as anybody

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in the country. So I think better days are ahead,

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and I think Kevin Young and his staff will get

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it together and they'll and.

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Speaker 3: They'll uh, they'll be peaking at the right time. Let's

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put it that way.

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Speaker 2: A controversial thing happened recently for some b YU fans

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and some just college basketball fans. G League players are

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getting signed BYU. Just got a commitment from Abdullah Ahmed

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out of the Knicks organization in the G League. Former

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G League center Abdullah Ahmed committee to BYU yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Twenty two year old.

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Speaker 2: He has been cleared to play by the NCAA, though

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his official eligibility clock is still being finalized. He's expected

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to have at least two seasons of eligibility, with a

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chance at a third. Akhmed is expected role at BA

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for the second semester and set out the remainder of

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the season. He will officially shoot up for the Cougars

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the start of the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season.

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Six foot ten big man from Egypt, He's also played

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the last two seasons with the Westchester Knicks, the G

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League affiliate of the New York Yet New York Knicks,

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the same G League affiliate that Jimmer Fernet I think

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averaged twenty one point one points for when he was

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in the G League but give me your reaction to

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this news. Obviously, Aucument's a good player. Uh, he went

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straight from high school into the G League. Four points,

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five point five rebounds and eight point eighteen point three

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minutes per contest is what he averaged. I believe this

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last season. What's your reaction to this news? Do you

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like it? Do you love it? Do you hate it?

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Do you want to see maybe some sort of you know,

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by law passed limiting overseas professional players and G League

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players from playing college basketball.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for me? Jay?

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Speaker 4: You know, when I first heard that this could happen,

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I guess it was in October and BYU was one

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of the finalists, and it was a It was a

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topic of conversation at the Big twelve basketball meetings and

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a lot of coaches were.

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Speaker 3: Kind of saying, ah, this is crazy the Saint right.

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Speaker 4: Including Calvin Sampson, who, unbeknownst to him at the time,

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was actually in the top four for this for this

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guy's services and here he was. Kevin Sampson was kind

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of mildly criticizing the fact that this could happen. So

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there's a disconnect there somewhere. But I was probably against it.

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I thought that's not a very good idea until I

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heard Kevin Young at that same most same meetings.

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Speaker 3: Basically say that, hey, this has.

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Speaker 4: Been going on in European League basketball for a long time.

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These guys are being paid over there. They're considered pros,

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including Yegor Demon and many many others. The kid that

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started for Illinois last year, I think it was, and

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so you know, hey, it's the same Kevin was saying,

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it's the same thing as long as they're not on

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a two way NBA contractor as long as they haven't

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played in the NBA yet. The g League is pretty

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much equivalent to European the European pro leagues. So when

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I heard that explanation, I guess I was, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, what's good for the goose is good for

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the gander, and you.

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Speaker 4: Know, if that's an equivalency kind of thing, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think there's been.

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Speaker 4: Some blowback in the last yesterday and today because it's

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whole spending spree that's going on in all college.

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Speaker 3: Sports, but specifically football and basketball.

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Speaker 4: I think of a blue blood like Duke or North

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Carolina had done it, I don't think there would have

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been that much of a national outcry or anything. I would,

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you know, I think people just say, yeah, the rich

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get richer. But I think because it's b YU, I

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think it's raised some eyebrows, especially on the hills of

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the aj De Bonsa, you know, signing and what by

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Dyu's collectives basically paid to get aj to provo. So yeah,

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but I can see where it is causing some consternation

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out there among a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I think there's there's plenty that don't like

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either the LDS Church or BYU for that matter, as

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an extension of it, that are going to say, hey,

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wait a second, this is becoming a professional endeavor, you know,

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pay for play. I mean, we've been hearing this now

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for a long time since the NIL era, and I've

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found it insturting. I don't know if you saw the

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podcast with President and Profit of the Church of Jesus

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Christ The Letter since down A Jokes and Elder Holland,

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two former BYU presidents, discussing BYU's mission, it's impact and

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even getting into athletics and commenting on athletics. I think

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down h Jokes called it the Lord's University. There was

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a lot of Utah fans punching air, you know at

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that point. They were not happy, Like, wait a second,

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he's calling it the Lord's University.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 2: And he's talking athletics and how it's making a positive impact.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy. A lot of people don't.

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Speaker 2: Like it, and I find it interesting that the Board

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of Trustees may be maybe really backing this with the

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intent of making a positive impact in the communities that

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the Athletic Department is is competing in right wherever they go.

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via b a U TV. Except like, all of these

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things are making a positive impact, and I think it's

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all kind of collected into this, you know, into this

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controversial topic for many people that don't like BYU or

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don't like the LDS church and they they don't like it.

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Speaker 1: They just don't like it one bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, b YU and THEYU athletics has always been

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a lightning rod of sorts.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, you don't.

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Speaker 4: Find a lot of people that are ambivalent towards b

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any of the schools that compete against b YU. People

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either love them or they hate them. And it's just

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it's a polarizing place.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: And like many of those that you just outlined bed So, yeah,

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it's just gonna further kind of put you know, put

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more into that divide, as it were. And I just think,

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you know, people are going to continue to choose sides

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and and you know, credit BYU for, like you said,

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having all these outreach programs that are that are trying

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to go out into communities and trying to say that, hey,

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it's not all about athletics, it's not all about you know,

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trying to dominate on the courts and fields of play.

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That it's like this deal that they did at Iowa

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long it was when when a kind isle and donated

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shoes to the handcart companies that were you know, crossing

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the planes. So uh, yeah, it's uh, it's a very

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interesting topic and uh and I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think it's gonna change anytime soon. Uh.

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Speaker 4: BYU is just a polarizing place and and it always

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has been and I think it always will continue to.

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Speaker 1: Be, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: J Drew here on the UH on your Utah ESPN

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Speaker 1: Bresa Cleaning Services.

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Speaker 2: Is where you go for all your best, uh, residential

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and commercial cleaning services. H Jay, Let's pivot over to

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football for a moment. The College Football Playoff Committee, it's

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dubbed by U the twelfth best team. They were sitting

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pretty in their prior slot. They drop essentially six spots

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Was that deserving? You know, why is it that b

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where you dropped so far? And wanted to get your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good question. Ben.

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Speaker 4: I I thought what would fair in my head as

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I was, you know, leaving the game and also over

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the weekend, was that they should drop to maybe ten

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nine or ten, So twelve was mildly surprising to me.

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how they lost. Texas Tech, you know, did kick five

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field goals. You know, they turned three of those field

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goals into touchdowns, and you know, it's an even bigger

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margin of defeat for BYU, and and BYU just struggled.

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And there's a lot of byballs are on that game.

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Obviously I haven't seen the ratings come out yet.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 4: There were you know, it was the game of the

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week pretty much, and the Cougars, you know, I don't

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want to be too rough on.

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Speaker 3: Him, they laid an egg they I mean.

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Speaker 4: I know, Texas Tech is a great defense, probably the

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best college defense that I've seen in my you know,

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eighteen years of covering covering college football at least as

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one of the you know, BYU or Utah playing against

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that defense.

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Speaker 3: Live, watching it live.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I just think all that kind of

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coupled with the fact that the Big twelve doesn't quite

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get the respect.

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Speaker 3: That a lot of the other well, the SEC and

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Big ten gets.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, add all that up and I think that's

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why they probably tumbled to twelve.

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Speaker 3: And I think there was a little bit of I

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don't know if you want to call it predictive that

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the committee.

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Speaker 4: Says they don't kind of base anything on like predictives

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or whatever, but you know, I think human nature, they

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probably looked ahead and they probably said, you know, by

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US might not you know, beat has to play at

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Cincinnati and that could you know that loss could make

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him even drop even further. So you know that's another

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factor that might have played into it. But to answer

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your question, Ben, yes, I was. I was surprised that

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they dropped as far as they did from I think

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it was from seven to twelve.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was that was mildly unfair.

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Speaker 4: But I can kind of see why the committee did it,

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if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't showcase well offensively and everybody was

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watching right, so from a public relations standpoint, wasn't good

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for BYU because they really didn't show any sort of

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offensive firepower. They didn't score till late in the fourth quarter,

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and so not not a good deal. The only way

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they can maybe right the ship is get on a

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neutral field and maybe beat up on a or rather

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get on a neutral field and compete better or or

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or at least, you know, just keep it close versus

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Texas Tech and the Big Twelve Championship game.

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Speaker 1: If they are a two loss team, say they do.

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Speaker 2: Let's say ideally they get to the Big Twelve Championship

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game and they lose a second time to Texas Tech,

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but it's closer.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they get into the playoff?

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Speaker 3: Boy, that's a tough question to answer.

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Speaker 4: I think it depends on some of the other how

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some of the other teams, probably Texas and Oklahoma, some

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of the other se team see teams do and if

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they have three losses.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe it's.

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Speaker 4: Pollyanna Pollyanna ish of me, but I'm gonna say, yeah,

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and both are the Texas Tech and they get to

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the Big Twelve Championship game, yeah, I'm gonna say yes.

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I'm gonna say I think they I think the committee

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finds a way to get BYU into the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna take eye test into it in

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the in the second go round, if it's not a

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competitive game, if it doesn't look better than what was

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what we all witnessed in Lubbock. If it's same similar

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three score margin, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four points,

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twenty point victory, I think they may I test BYU

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out right. Well, they're not gonna they can't make a run.

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They're gonna eye test them out even though yeah they've

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only lost attack. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel.

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Look at where where Notre Dame's at right now. They're

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eye testing Notre Dame into and in front of BYU

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despite strength of records, strength of schedule, you know less

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less losses into to a top five team, and so

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they're already eye testing Notre Dame into the college football playoff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, that's a good point.

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Speaker 4: And I should have probably put that carve up when

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I said, yes, I think they're in two losses, I

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you know, backing up, I should have said yes if

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they are competitive, if they are if it's like.

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Speaker 3: Say a one score game, or.

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Speaker 4: If they you know, penetrate that Texas Tech defense and

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show that you know, they indeed can move the ball

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and that they can make it.

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Speaker 3: To the you know, close going into the fourth quarter

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sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: Jare meser to know, Like even if they let's say

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that Texas Tech wins the game like thirty one fourteen.

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I'm looking at the teams in front, like Alabama's gonna

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play you know, Oklahoma, Georgia's gonna play Texas. If they

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lose in BAU beats TCU, you know they're gonna move

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up obviously to ten. I just don't think the team's

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behind you can jump them above. But even if they

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were lose by two scores, but they made it decently competitive,

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do you still believe that they would have a team

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like Miami who might not meet the title game, or

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Georgia Tech or USC jump BYU that late, because like

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they said, they don't punish you for losing the conference championship.

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But I just don't see how these two or maybe

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even three lost teams for the SEC ACC or Big

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ten can jump BYU that late.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's also a good point, Ronnie. I think, uh,

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you know, we'd have to go back to last year.

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Didn't that happen last year where SMU wasn't punished for

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losing a conference championship?

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Speaker 5: No, they lost the Clemson they still made.

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Speaker 4: It twelve the last team in Yeah, So so the

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president is there for that? So uh yeah, it's that

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age old question is is how much do they take

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into you know, consideration the conference championship games or is

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that just is that another data point or is that

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a you know, triple kind of data point, uh when

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they're when they're going over these resumes. So yeah, it's

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it's a really fascinating I think, and interesting to see

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how it all plays out. But uh, yeah, you know,

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I think BYU fans would really have a good, a

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good beef with the committee if if, like you said,

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they were leapfrogged even though they didn't lose until the

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championship game.

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Speaker 2: Jay, you're right for the days, right is what have

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you been writing about? What are you going to be

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dropping on your timeline this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I just I did a kind of a lengthy thing

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after the basketball game last night about just kind of

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what we've learned about the BA basketball team through two

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exhibitions and three non conference games kind of leading up

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to the Yukon game. So that's online now, and then

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I'm working on something on how Bair Doatmeyer will respond.

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Uh he probably people probably saw me ask those questions

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in the Colonial press conference Monday and then again yesterday.

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So that's what I'm working on today, and then I'm

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going to try to do a little bit of history

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of TCU b YU, specifically TCU's old visits to Provo

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in the Mountain West days and how heated those games

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were and kind of look kind of a look back

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at those leading up to the game on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Love that breakdown, Jay, Any other concerns, anything that stood

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out to you from earlier this week, media availability or

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the coordinator's corner from the BWAYU football side of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it'll be interesting. I just think by you,

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you know, they got to get Moa back.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I've read some places where he probably

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won't be back, but they've just got to find another

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weapon out of the backfield.

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Speaker 3: I guess that would be the big.

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Speaker 4: Thing that on moa injury is the number one injury

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really that has should be concerning I guess for BYU

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fans for this whole season.

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Speaker 3: I know Jojo Phillips was out and Vader.

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Speaker 4: Dominus out over a little bit, but this, this Moa

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injury is his absence is really well, it was really

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felled against Texas Tech, and I think moving forward it's

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going to be felt even more I just you know,

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you'd like to see Joe Vesa the Mooney or Enichnawahini

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or Preston Rex just one of those guys just step up,

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because I just don't think they can run there as

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much as they are and run LJ as much as

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they are with him being a little bit deemed up.

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So that would be kind of be my maybe concern

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over this BYU football team moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Love the breakdown, Appreciate you hopping on Jay for a

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Speaker 1: The Fan.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Guys all right, appreciate you Jay Drew.

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They do move ins, move outs, deep cleans, fast, thorough

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and affordable, family owned and operated and BAU fan approved.

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Call them today get a quote Today on your Home

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eight o one three eight zero eight zero eight seven.

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That's eight oh one three eight zero eight zero eight seven.

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It's always a breeze to clean with Bresa Cleaning Services.

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Let's go to break, don't go anywhere more to get to.

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This is Cougar Sports on one oh three nine ninety

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eight point three