Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. Welcome to another edition of Puck Time.
Hey luck who just decided to tune in. Andrew McInnis
always great to see him coming on, well prepared, well dressed,
well groomed, but it is Wednesday, busy card for us.
Tonight we have Brian Leonard in the hot seat today.
Andrew and I are going to talk about the Islanders
and the Ducks a big one tonight. Brian's going to
talk about the Vegas Golden Knights against the Red Wings.
We'll see if he gets called into human resources in
Detroit about his one there. He's also going to give
us some feedback on the Islanders and Ducks game as
well too, so that'll be an added bonus from him.
Leafs and in New Jersey two teams going nowhere. But
we got to talk about him because the other games
some inflated lines on those ones. Andrew with some winners
same game, partly some player props a pod play pod
Play gets there. Yesterday I talked about the fact that
the Edmonton Oilers and have averaged nine goals in their
games their last six games at home, well five four
final another nine goals in one of their games that
goes over the total pod play hits. We're gonna try
and get over eight K today and we're gonna then
close it off with some promos and stuff. But let's
bring in our beloved Andrew mckinnis the he's a little tired.
I think he stayed up to watch the Anaheim Sorry
the was it? The Sharks? The Sharks and the Canadians. Andrew,
that game was bumping, man. And when Montreal tied it up,
they were just buzzing that game. They were just buzzing.
I don't know what to tell you, man, They just
could not get it. Askarov made a couple of mistakes
in goal for San Jose, but a game.
Speaker 2: I wasn't happy, karm.
Speaker 3: You say, right two.
Speaker 4: Am local time for me, and I see them give
up seven goals, seven goals, and I'm up till two
in the morning watching that so and the worst part
is almost like a gut punch because you're down. I
think it was five two or four to two, and
they come back and tie the game, only to give
up two more after that. It's almost like you'd rather
watch your team lose five to nothing than to make
it that dramatic and then end up losing. So I
fell asleep listening to a postgame show talking about them
the loss.
Speaker 2: So that's how you know it wasn't going.
Speaker 4: Wow, I fall asleep listening to a postgame show talking
about how bad they looked last night.
Speaker 1: But dude, I'm never going to fall asleep listening to
a postgame show. One of our beloved leaders and owners
of wager Talk, Johnny Detroit, he knows that I have
trouble sleeping at night. Sometimes I get insomnia. He sent
me a link and I bought this thing off of Amazon.
It is absolutely the best. It is like a sleep mask,
but it has the speakers in your phone, and the
speakers on the side where your ears are aren't bulky,
so you can because I sleep on my side, so
you can sleep on your side and feel no discomfort.
And then it connects to your phone by Bluetooth, of course,
and then you can listen to any one of the
sleep apps. That's what I'll do. I'm not listening to
hockey while I'm trying to fall asleep. I'm listening to
like the ocean, the rain. I can't listen to the rain, though,
you wonder why I can't listen to the rain because
I'm Italian. When you listen to the rain, it sounds
like someone is frying up cutlets. It's just like now
then I get hungry, So it's what it is, man.
But I will I very rarely, Andrew, come on, I
talk more about losses than they do about wins, not
because I have more losses than wins. I just don't
like to brag. But I want to thank everyone who
followed along on my five percent play yesterday, the Buffalo
sabers and knocking off the Vegas Golden Knights up three nothing.
It looked like, uh, we could be home and cooled,
but Vegas responded three two finals. It made for a
little little tightness in the wrong areas of the body,
but yet we got the win my five dollars customer
appreciation play. I'm pretty peeved about that. At over six
in the Tampa game and finished five to one, so
a push there. Thank god, John Cooper does what John
Cooper does and pulls his goalie down three goals with
five minutes left. Because those four to one games, Andrew,
we talk about all the time, and the other coach
is not pulling his goalie on the road down four
to one with five minutes left, they're just not doing it.
But Cooper did it. I got an emptynight goal I'm
kind of happy for with a push and we move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great call by you, KRM.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's you know, not often that you can
have a five percent best bet and it also be
on your favorite team and a team that's playing so
incredibly well. Uh unless you're the Prayers, because I'll take
the overrun five percent plays on the.
Speaker 2: Maple leaves that he's had. But we'll say that for
a different time. But you know, for you.
Speaker 4: To to look at the Buffalo and I know that
I think I think Brian had them as well for
how they're playing.
Speaker 2: You know, to just look at the analytics and look
at this team.
Speaker 4: And I said to you the last time we spoke,
is this team ever gonna stop winning?
Speaker 2: Can they stop? Can they stop winning? Please?
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, they were a couple of months ago,
they were nearly last in the in the conference, in
the division, and now they're second wild card spot in
the division.
Speaker 2: It feels like they're not losing it.
Speaker 4: Also, great call by you, and for me, I'll tell you,
I told people yesterday I had a five dollars play.
It was my over of the day and I always said,
he who doesn't like betting overs? And we hit it
halfway through the game. We hit it at the ten
minute mark of the second period, so that was nice.
With Dallas and Calgary over five and a half. The
funny thing is, I will say, you know, I'm usually
a team totals guy. I realistically could have just taken
Dallas's team total because they did all the work. I
think it was six to one final or something six
to two, but hey, we'll take that. It was a
one and two day for me, but I was happy
to hit the big one for all the customers. So
a couple four percent winners in a row. But I
did lose with Tampa and I did lose with the
first period over.
Speaker 2: In the Vegas game on it.
Speaker 4: But man Vegas second half of back to back today,
now we'll see what they can do. But back to
back performances where they just looked flat offensively.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. You know, Mark Stone out of the
lineup as well to Brian's going to have some thoughts
coming up very shortly. You and I will probably kick
it off with the Islanders and Ducks and we can
bring him. Brian for his thoughts as well too on
that one. But yeah, Andrew some some some crazy games
yesterday across the NHL, and then we're trying to follow
the news. This is what makes the next two or
three days very tough to handicap is and why I
released my plays a little bit later, or if if
I'm not worried about not about like the trade deadline
with with some teams. But you look at like the
Robert Thomas the news, you know out of Saint Louis.
Will he be moved today? Will they wait until Friday? Well,
we made to be seen. You know, there was thoughts
he was going to go to the Sabers. But they're
asking too much from the Savers. They want to like
Owen Power a second round draft pick and then another
player as well too. I just don't see that happening.
The asking price is too high. Bbrovski Florida said today
they're entertaining calls on Brebroska because he's an unrestricted free agent.
And Brian and I talked about that in the green
room before the show. Is it's one of those things.
He has sixteen teams that he will not go to
and I'm gonna guess that seven of them or eight
of them are in Canada, all the canad teens. He's
not gonna come north of the border. The Edminton Oiders
could probably use him because Connor Ingram just looks like
a piece of Swiss cheese.
Speaker 4: We had to mention the Oilers last night, car and
we have to. I know, we got to get the
show going. And some people that watch the show they
like to hear the hockey talk from us, and some
people that watch the show they just like the picks.
But we have to talk about the Oilers for a second.
You mentioned Connor Ingram, you mentioned Brabrovski. I think it
will be I always love goalie trades. I just find
goalie trades are I don't know, there's just something more
cool about them than a player trade. But yeah, I
do think Lebrowski could go to some other team. But man,
oh man, this Oiler's team, Like, I don't want to
get canceled by saying this here and hopefully I get
on YouTube, we are allowed to say this here. But
who needs drugs when you can just watch an Edmonton
Oilers game like Edmonton Oiler fans.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you sleep at night.
Speaker 4: I don't know how these fans are able to just
go to bed after what, Like you don't even need
to do anything but watch these games if you're in
a bad mood, if you need some energy, These guys,
if they're tired before work, before going to the gym,
just tossed on an Oilers game.
Speaker 2: They'll get your heart beating. Because like, there.
Speaker 4: Wasn't a doubt in my mind when they were down
four to two that that game was still going to
be a good one. And it's like, could you imagine
if Leon dry Title and Connor McDavid had a good defense?
Could you imagine Karma if they had a good defense
or goalie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's Andrew. I don't know what to say.
I mean, they had a couple decent defensemen, I think
to end up going to the Blues, didn't they I
just I just don't get it with this team. They're
they're almost a I don't want to call him a
carbon copy of the Toronto Maple Leafs, but they're just
top heavy. Uh. The Pittsburgh Penguins, as good as they play,
I've put together a team which you know that their
six defensemen are very good. I like them. You know,
they don't need Cale mccarr, they don't need Bouchard, they
don't They have defensemen who are stay at home who
could but also move the puck and uh and and
this is why they're they've been successful this season on
a team that's supposed to be aging. You know, I mean,
like malcoln As we talk about the trade deadline, and
I'll end it here real quick with this one, but
you look at Malcolm and he's likely going to get moved,
that's what they're talking about. So hard to believe that
a Pittsburgh team that's playing so well right now would
move Malcolm. But he's not part of their plans moving forward,
so you move him now. It's so interesting what's going
on in Pittsburgh and what's gonna happen in Pittsburgh. So
we'll see what happens there. But Andrew, the first six
games yesterday all had five of the six games all
had at least two goals in the first period, and
five of the six games went under the total. The
Boston game had three goals in the first six minutes,
two to one for the Bruins, and the game ended
two to one. It just reminds me of what you said.
Sometimes you get the goals in the first period, you
could take the first period over and then the full
game under. And to your point, you're banging there. But listen,
let's get to it minus one ten, Let's bring in
Brian Leonard, Ducks and the Islanders minus won ten both ways.
Total sits here at six and a half. Where are
you going with this one? Andrew?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you Karen Mike, Yes, yesterday with my overplay,
I had Dallas second half of back to back, and
I know that we will say that this stuff is.
Speaker 2: Baked into the number.
Speaker 4: You know, people are already aware of of of the
you know of of you know who played yesterday, and
the odds makers know and stuff. But at the end
of the day, there's sometimes there are just these back
to back spots that work out well for you that
you want to jump in on.
Speaker 2: And I think this is one of them.
Speaker 4: You know, you look yesterday at the the Ducks for
playing already, you look at this Islanders team, I think
overall that's been playing some a lot better offensive hockey
than people think. But then when you look at the
goaltending situation for today, Uh, Dave Riddick has not been good.
Big save Dave has been small save Dave because krm,
he's not saving any shots right now. If you look
at the the goaltender matchup, it's not very favorable right now.
And then you look, of course over on the Anaheims side,
and because they're playing second half of back to back,
they have to go to Billy Husso and Lucas Dstall,
as we all know, is the much better goaltender. So
looking at all the advanced metrics I like to use,
look at the last couple games, last three games, Billy
Husso near the bottom for a lot of stuff. Expected
goals against per game up towards three point eight to
two or higher, which is not good. So goaltending wise
as it is, makes me like the over now offensive output.
The Islanders do struggle a little bit more offensively when
they are on the road. However, Anaheim ticks it up
a lot more when they're at home. However, it is
second half of back to back for them. For the
New York Islanders, it's front half of back to back
for them. So for people wondering why Soroken will not
be between the pipes tonight. They're preparing for the matchup tomorrow.
It's interesting, Carm. We've seen coaches do this in the past,
where they decide that we want to put our better
goaltender when our team is tired, instead of having our
better goaltender out there when the team is fresh and
they're feeling good. So I like the over here. You know,
I think the Islanders are a sneaky team offensively right now.
They have been playing in some high scoring games. It's
hard to talk anybody out of any exciting talk when
it comes to the Anaheim Ducks right now and what
they're able to do.
Speaker 2: And one thing.
Speaker 4: That I said to you yesterday with Buster was you know,
this team, this team, it kind of will come back
to bite them a bit that.
Speaker 2: They give up early goals.
Speaker 4: Like if you look at the games out of the
break for the Ducks, they had to come back in
a handful of games, right like, they weren't necessarily winning
the games the whole way, So that can cost you.
So the total is six and a half for a reason.
Give me the over in this game here, Karl.
Speaker 1: I intend to grief you and some you know, very
good points from Andrew, you know, as far as like
the goaltending matchups and looking forward to the games that
are tomorrow for them as well too. You know, the
Ducks got buried. The dad joke is they got buried
under an avalanche yesterday. But I like a player prop.
This is where we're reversed because normally would be me
taking the over undering you with a player prop. First
of all, here's like the easiest one hundred dollars you
would ever make in your life, and that is but
you have to wait till the end of the season.
Matthew Schaeffer to win the Calder Trophy. Now you have
to put eight thousand dollars down to win one hundred.
But it's a they're giving you a three hundred dollars.
I'm never going to make that bet. The guy is
just unbelievable. Twenty goals, he is minus eight thousand to
win the Calder is unbelievable. I'm going to take him
to score tonight on Billy whoso He is going to
light up Billy. Billy, don't you lose my number? I
think it's Billy, but we'll go with Villy plus three
to ninety. Matthew Schaeffer to score tonight anytime goal. How
do you like them? Apples? He's got twenty goals this year.
Speaker 4: He has been unbelievable. He has been unbelievable. Carm You know,
it's hard to say because you know what. They were
a Nathan McKinnon goal away. They were a Devonte's goal away.
They were an a five on three goal away. But man,
they could have used him on the Canada Olympic team.
They definitely could have used it. And before I go
on a rant about that, let's bring in mister b
l who had a pretty good day with us yesterday
on the show. And before he gets to me about this,
I'll just tell you right now, Brian, you got me
with the Minnesota game, the nice underdog winner by you,
and I believe you.
Speaker 2: Had Buffalo as well.
Speaker 4: So in our own ways, I think it's a day
that the three of us could be happy yesterday hitting
some plays that we were pretty confident in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, up the board for clients yesterday, and we want
our free play here worked out exactly the way we
draw it up. We talked about it, so that will
work out.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Are you sure the is it been? Soroke is not
playing Tony or is that just a feeling they announced.
Speaker 1: On rotal wire right now it's showing confirmed for Riddick.
I'm on a different site and so okay, yeah and
uh and it's the expected is Villi husso, but it
shows Ridick confirmed. Now. I know with like rotal wire,
one of the ones that you normally have up on
the screen when we're doing these shows that on a
couple of occasions throughout the season, I've seen a goalie
being confirmed and then changed a little later. So but
all indications are that given rotal wire, we'll look at
the goalie post and some of the other ones a
little later, but that he is tonight's a starter because on.
Speaker 3: Goaliepost right now it's got soroken probable, but it's as
early and anything can happen as the day goes on.
I didn't want to touch on this game myself. I
don't have much of an opinion in the game, although
I will say that the Islanders have had the last
two days off and so they've got the scheduling advantage
here third game of four days for Anaheim. But what
I wanted to point out was these are two teams
right now that I think are really live. In fact,
I think this Islanders team has gone under the wire
of most people on the season. In fact, I was
at sportsbook the other day and I was looking over
the futures and they had the Islanders a seventy five
to one to win the championship. With the goaltending that
they have, with great goaltender, I think this is a
team you're looking to play a long shot.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Talking about a ten to one or whatever, but if
you want to put a couple of shekels, as they say,
on a long shot, I wouldn't I wouldn't think that
the Islanders would be a team that a lot of
people would bet, which is why we're getting seventy five
to one. I haven't shopped at around to see anybody
or anywhere else, but this turned into a really good
hockey team this year, and anybody in the East from
one down. I mean, I talked about yesterday how Tampa
I think it's the best team. But because Carolina's suffered
so much in the playoffs, this is really all open
in the East, and I think the Islanders got it.
It's seventy five to one. I think it's worthy worthy.
Speaker 2: Of bet.
Speaker 1: All right, I like it, Brian. You know, the game
in itself is interesting because the Islanders are just playing
so well. The Ducks were playing extremely well before they
but they caught a very good Avalanche team, and you
can't take penalties to the Avalanche, especially in the first period,
because if they once they score on you, they just
continue to score at cal mccarr just seems to be
rounding into for him right now, and like even him
for like the North Trophy. Up until a couple of
weeks ago, it was Wrenski that was the favor to
win the Norse Trophy, and now it's cal mccarr at
plus one point fifteen, I think it is on DK.
So speaking of odds on DK, I'm gonna mention it again.
The Vegas Golden Knights are now down to plus thirteen
hundred to miss the playoffs. So I did bet it
on Vegas to miss the playoffs. I'm hoping to cash
a ticket on there because I will be catching that
ticket by the time you arrive in Toronto for the
baseball game in April, so I'll have a few extra
bucks to spend on you there.
Speaker 3: Rooting against my hockey team and then my baseball team
in Toronto when I'm up there, So yeah, it's pretty betting,
but yeah, it's it's it's very interesting. Yesterday we were
on here talking about it and Vegas is terrible in
the first period, and that's why I used them as
my free play. But if you've watched them all along,
they fall behind and then they come back, and that's
exactly what they did yesterday. They looked really good in
the second and third period. They were the better team,
I thought in the second and third period. But Vegas
is a team playing in the second of a back
to back, and surprisingly being a veteran team, they're actually
five and two in the second of a back to
back on the season. But if you go back to
when I came on after the break and I said,
looking at how the teams set up, if you're playing
in conference, those games are much more important than the
out of conference games. They played the Kings, and of
course Vegas decided to give all the Olympias the time off.
They somehow beat the Kings in that game, so they
got the most important game. So I said, that was
the most important game the gotament a plus price actually
pretty sizable plus price and then they've gone on the
road against the Eastern Eastern Conference and I said we
would fade them in those games. They've lost them all.
So why go against something that has worked so well
for us as of late. I do want to go
against Vegas in this game. Vegas second game in back
to back, third game in four days. Detroit a little
bit younger team fighting for the playoffs there, and they're
more arrested than Vegas. And if you take a look,
like when I break down games, a team in the
second of a back to back against a team that's
had the time off, you know, it's got to be
worth like twenty five cents in the line. So basically
you're looking at something would be a pick them the situation.
There's no way I could bet Vegas as a pick
them the way they're playing right now. So I like
Detroit here and I would have no problem playing Detroit
in the first period. Once again, let's go for the
pull game in this one. Is this gold Knights team
Stone without Stone yesterday, even even as well as Vegas
was able to skate, and there was if you watch
that game, it was very up and down the entire time.
And that's the way Buffalo wanted to play because it
being the younger team, and in Vegas did it. And
Vegas looked really good in that regard, but the passing
was not very sharp without Stone in that game, and
I talked about it. They're not the same team without Stone.
Without his ability. He's like a point guard in the NHL,
and for his ability on both the offensive defense to
be able to UH, to get those pucks and put
them where they need to be. I really don't think
he's gonna play here. He didn't play yesterday. Why bring
him back now? Give him, you know, give him another
day off. So I would expect him not to play.
They did make a little trade yesterday. It brought in
somebody from UH Nashville. He he may make the lineup.
So you're also getting a guy who's never played with
them before, being on the four string or fourth, you know,
the fourth UH listening. So I will see how it goes.
But they, according to they want to decide. I was
just talking about they think Kiri Schmith's coming back. I
can't believe that. He didn't look good, but and I'm
sure they'd like to get it back there. But you know,
Hill hasn't looked good either, So they need to get
Hill back in there. And Vegas is even worse with
Hill right now. So I like to try in this game.
Speaker 1: So a question for both of you guys. So the
I don't want to I don't want to be the
sky is falling on the Vegas Golden Knights. But uh,
if they had to lose tonight, so they goer and
four on the East coast, they return home and they
play Minnesota and the Edminton Oiters and then make a
quick trip to Dallas and then have to come home
to face Pittsburgh. I think a day two days later.
Can that the first three games the Minnesota, the Edmonton
and Dallas If they're loose and I could get out
of hand in this four game losing street turn into
seven games. It could be.
Speaker 3: Those are teams that are very good. And right after
they play Pittsburgh they play Chicago. But then they got
Buffalo again, and they got Utah, who's playing really good
hockey right now. So yeah, they've got a really tough
schedule this month. The only bad teams really that they're playing,
if you consider I don't know any Vancouver's bad, they
play them on the thirtieth, but they also play Chicago.
They play Chicago in Nashville and Washington on the next
three Saturdays. Those teams have not been playing that great,
but yeah, they've got a lot of good teams. They
got to play against. Oiler it's twice Utah, Dallas, twice
Buffalo again. So this is a tough schedule for them.
We'll see how it goes. But yeah, right now, it's
not as cut and dry as it was just two
weeks ago for Vegas.
Speaker 4: It's funny how depth works, because you you need your
depth the most when you actually are missing your key players.
But it seemed like the depth was showing up the
most when it didn't even need to for Vegas, like
some of these other guys were scoring when it was
like already a four to one game, you know, and
they'd make it five one or six. You know, it's like, hey,
we need you guys to score these goals. Now, this
is when we need you the most, you know, And
then they're not showing up as much. So I think guys,
one thing that I might have miscalculated was that when
the Olympics were what ended, I was looking to fade
teams with a ton of Olympians for the first game
or two. But the funny thing is it seems like
it's almost like those first games back for them, they
were okay. But then there's been a couple of games
after that where some of these teams with Olympians haven't
looked great overall. Like if you look at all the
guys that were at the Olympics that played extremely well,
I mean, I guess besides like Celebrini and stuff, but like,
like I'll speak for.
Speaker 2: My Montreal Canadians.
Speaker 4: Nick Suzuki's a guy that I don't usually have a
bad thing to say about. He didn't look great last night.
Your I s Levkovski has not looked great. Slevkovski was
named to the top five All Olympic team, you know,
and you look at the Golden Knights, you know, Mark
Stone with the LTI R. Jack Eichel just partied for
four straight days, you know, Noah Hanafin, some of these
guys right, Like, it's it's interesting because we thought that
NHL general managers would not be happy during the tournament,
But guys, what if they're not happy after the tournament
because these players there, they're not in the same mindset.
They maybe were before, Because let's be real here. If
you're Jack Gichel, you're on top of the world for
a couple of days, and now you go back to Vegas,
right and all of a sudden your team's losing Carmen,
it's a little bit tougher. So if you're a GM
right now and you're watching your best players not look
that great and they just played well for the Olympics,
if I was the owner or a GM of a team,
I'd be a bit discouraged.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think you have to be. Uh it, Listen,
we're every year we get to this point, Andrew, before
the trade deadline, where we get into like uncharged waters,
and opinions just go from like your narrative is here,
and then all of a sudden, you see what is
happening in the news, and your narrative kind of goes
off to the side, and you're hoping, shit, I hope
nobody remembers what I said on Monday. I can't remember
what I said about a half hour ago. So but Andrew,
I just don't know. It is Uh yeah, you're making
some good points. You know, you talk about like the
depth and you know you started off with the depth
and and and the Knights it is. It's it's one
thing that they they during their successful years and playoff runs,
and this is still a I want to call him
a new franchise because they haven't been in the league
twenty plus years or forty fifty plus years like the
Buffalo Savers have. But management has always seen to have
made the right calls with this Vegas Golden Knights team,
and I think they have. They have to look at
what is happening right now and what is going to
happen over the next five or six days with their
schedule and say, we need to make some changes because
we're the boat has a little bit of a leak
in it. We don't want it to turn into like
a multiple leaks that we can't stop. So I think
I think the Vegas Golden Knights are going to be
active somehow on this at this trade deadline. Brian and
I still believe if it's an upper body injury with
Mark Stone, and the reports that I saw earlier today
was it's his arm or something, but it would not
surprise me if he is on the long term injury
reserve and they bring in some players or they make
some kind of a deal in which a team, whether
it's a two team deal or a three team deal,
where someone eats up all of the cap space.
Speaker 3: They They've made a few in the in the press here,
a lot of people are looking to get Marched so
back if if they take all that money, most of
the money in that Nashville has paid him, they'd love
to have him back. I'm sure, but I do want
to point out I know they didn't. They rested them
when they played La. None of the guys who went
to the Olympics has scored a goal for Vegas since
they've been back, and like I said, I was saying,
they just don't have the depth, especially of Doria and
barbershow are the two guys that they look for officially,
And they've been very good, and they were good in
every game they played so far since they've been back,
but they just don't have enough scoring without without the
guys who went to the Olympics. And if those guys
are off on something, you know, there were a lot
there were a lot of open goals last night, a lot,
a lot of open ice, and normally they would have
a lot of success in that regard. Didn't happen last night,
So yeah, it's I'm not gonna I agree that Vegas
is probably gonna obviously going to turn it around a
little bit, but you know, I don't want to stand
in front of that train right now. Take advantage of it.
There's still be They're still being graded in the betting
marketplace that they're a good team. And once again, to
add to what we talked about yesterday, they're now five
to twenty six against teams that are in playoff contention,
so not not good. And by the way, Detroit has
not had a home game since January, so this is
going to be a crazy night in Detroit.
Speaker 1: This is the team.
Speaker 3: They're real happy to see, their team of attention, and
I expect the home advantage to be really strong tonight.
Speaker 2: The only thing we knew that Johnny Detroit.
Speaker 1: Who knew that Johnny Detroit would have to get rid
of his season tickets before the the team became an
elite competitors some Cleveland Brown season tickets for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just asked the Detroit Lions how they feel
about that. But I will see I promote.
Speaker 4: I just think Camp Talbot guys is a big factor.
So I feel like there's ever a game for them
to get goals, Brian, it could be today for Vegas.
So I feel like, if you like Detroit, you like
the over, I'm going to throw that out there. I
think I never was a big goalie guy, but this
year I've looked more into the goalie stuff, and I
feel like there is a drop off from Gibson to Talbot.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: A bad time for Detroit to have a goaltender get injured,
that's for sure, So we'll see. If they can't score
goals on Camp Talbot, then Vegas is really in some
trouble now.
Speaker 2: But what do you have to promote for us?
Speaker 3: Brian, Yeah, since we've halfway through the show or whatever.
I do have a play in college basketball. It's the tournament.
Time we wanted a game this we went to it,
oh yesterday, overall hockey and basketball. I do have a
playoff right now now. It starts in a half an
hour twenty five minutes from now. So if you want
to get in on the early action, you pick that
play up now. Still working on today's card, it'll be later.
Just like Carl I was saying, I want to make
sure who the goalies are. I want to make sure
he's playing, so we'll be putting our plays out later
on today. But once again, and I gave Busters some
problem yesterday, so we both have the same kind of
special God. If you're looking for extended service Busters coming
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You can get either one of our packages right now,
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Speaker 1: Love having you on, Brian as always, man, And yes,
Buster's probably listlean from the beach there in Mexico. And
I can't believe these guys are pimping baseball, but you
have a great season each and every year when Buster's on,
I will promote him as well too. But we appreciate
you coming on. Kill it the rest of the NHL season,
and of course baseball, which is right around the corner.
Thank you.
Speaker 2: Good ockys, All right, right, take care, brother, Andrew.
Speaker 1: I got some news for you.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It's not breaking.
Speaker 2: News, but yeah for me.
Speaker 1: But how would you like this deal to happen? Are
you ready for it? Are you prepared for it?
Speaker 2: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Okay, it is not official, it is in. It's in
the works. Jordan Bennington to the Montreal Canadians.
Speaker 4: I've heard about that. I've heard. I think he should
go to the steel.
Speaker 1: He's got sixteen sixteen teams on his no move clause,
but apparently the Canadians are one team he would go to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a Canadian guy. I go to a Canadian team.
Hey you getting all excited?
Speaker 1: Man? Look at you. I just saw like a spring
in year step.
Speaker 4: You know how I feel about Jordan Bennington. We need
goaltending on the team. But at the end of the day, though,
what would he cost for a guy that's not having
a great season? Is my question really is what he
would cost?
Speaker 1: The Blues are ready to move on from a lot
of players. I think they're Yeah, they've got to get
into not a total rebuild, but a rebuild of sorts.
And anytime you're you're looking to get rid of Robert Thomas,
uh Bennington and a couple other players. Then you're obviously
you're not only just thinking about the rest of this year,
which is done, but you're also thinking about next year.
You're not going to make the playoffs. But let's retool
and put ourselves in a position that two or year
two years from now we're competitive and then we can
pick up some players and deal from a position of strength. Right,
So we'll see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing is, I think that like Saint Louis
right now, is asking for too much. But somebody replied
back to me on Twitter with a good point, saying,
you know, Robert Thomas has years left on his contracts,
so they have to ask for for a lot because
it's a good deal for that guy.
Speaker 2: Like all the stuff that they.
Speaker 4: Were asking for the Buffalo Sabers, that's too much. And
from Montreal they want Michael Hage, they want Kaden Gooleye,
they want picks. They want a little bit too much.
So it's it's interesting to see. But I mean, yeah,
I think the Habs need goaltending. They want a number
one guy. Bennington could come and be. But one thing
I learned from last night watching the Habs is that
I would prefer them to trade for a defenseman or
goaltending than a forward. They lost seven to five KR.
I don't think the worry I have with this Habs
team right now is forwards anymore as much as it
is on the back end.
Speaker 2: Right maybe they could get a bottom.
Speaker 4: Six forward, a tougher guy for the playoffs, you know,
but you know, Thomas would be awesome. But I think
for my team, I'm I think that I'm more worried
about keeping the puck out of their net and not
as much the scoring with Robert Thomas. It's funny all
kinds of fans on Twitter last night, car because the
whole day people were talking about Robert Thomas, right, and
then watching them give up seven goals, people are like,
you know what, I don't even care about a forward anymore.
Speaker 2: Give me a defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I get it. And with some of
these goalies they you know, we saw it with like Bennington.
It wasn't the great season for him leading up to
the Olympics, but he was very good in the Olympics.
Because you're now surrounded by a corps of players who
are very good. The Saint Louis Blues aren't very good,
so going to Montreal. There's a team of players there
that are competing. Marty Saint Louis has got this team
playing each and every night. These guys were buzzing in
that third period and I thought for sure they were
going to win that game. When they can't. They erased
that three goal deficit. So having a goalie come into
that type of franchise, that type of a team where
the team in front of you is playing well, you
just need to do your job is similar to I'm
not saying it's the exact same thing as the Olympics,
but it's very similar to it. The mood is so
much different, not only on the ice, but in the
dressing room as well too. So we'll see if that happens.
But we have to talk about two teams that I
just love it. They're just not gonna make the playoffs.
This is it brings such joy to my heart. I
have very few things I get to enjoy. Guys, the
older you get to, you know what I mean, It's
like you're you know, you're you can't have sugar, you
can't have cholesterol, the eggs too much cholesterol. Andrew, I'm
loving it. This is like being able to sit down
with a tub of nutella and just eat it with
a spoon. The Toronto Maple Leafs are going to miss
the playoffs, Andrew. They are plus one or two tonight
New Jersey Devils are minus one twenty two total sits
here five and a half. How are you breaking this
one down?
Speaker 2: Oh man, Carm.
Speaker 4: I mean I had someone comment yesterday on our video say,
this guy seriously took the Leafs, and then some other
guy commented to have in my back say hey, at
least it went to a shootout. But I told myself,
never again, never again will I take this team. I
just can't stomach and I can't do it. The only
time offensively this Maple Leafs team really looks good is
when they're on the power play. That's the only time
they look good. Karm thirty seven percent power play right
now for the Maple Leafs, which could help them out.
But listen to this last ten games scoring chances against
twenty one point seven per game. I mean, this team
just absolutely bleeding chances. As far as New Jersey, they're
controlling the puck. It's New Jersey, your pass for me.
You know, we could play the game of when are
the Leafs gonna win again? Are we gonna try and
pick the night that the Maple Leafs win again? But
it's New Jersey or pass for me. They're playing at home,
they get the last change. They can shut down this
New Jersey, this Maple Leafs team.
Speaker 2: I'm convinced this.
Speaker 4: I don't think the Maple Leafs can win a low
scoring game, but yet that's the only type of games
they're playing in right now.
Speaker 2: They have to win.
Speaker 4: Why scoring a couple of goals because if it goes
low scoring, you know, I think the Devils are the
better teams, So it's it's Devils are passed because Carl,
if you I think I believe this with the with
the odds makers correcting the numbers, and you've been doing
this a long time and you're good with the odds
and the math, I believe if you took the opponent,
the Leafs play the rest of the season on the
money line for one unit a day, I think you
still end up making money. And I think that genuinely,
the books are not going to adjust enough. And maybe
it's because people like the Maple Leafs. Maybe it's because
they're still getting money, But would you say it's fair
to say that for the rest of this season, the
Maple Leafs are still going to lose money because they
have the books, are not going to adjust to how
bad they really are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're They're always going to give them credit
for guys like Austin Matthews, William Nielander that these guys
are going to get them up points. I believe that
the Leafs likely have to be a seller prior to
the trade deadline. Who they're going to move. I would
not know Bobby McMahon, maybe because I don't think they
want to resign him next season. So I think also
they're not dealing from a position of strength because player
the teams know that the Leafs are done and dusted
for the season and there's some big contracts on that team. Now,
this is a team Andrew that they've played four games
post Olympic break and they've averaged one point seventy five
goals per game. This is supposed to be a high
flying team and they're not even averaging two goals per game.
In four games they played, they've scored a total of
seven goals, lost all four games, picked up one point
in an ot loss to the Philadelphia Flyers, on home ice,
and they have the worst road record in the Eastern Conference.
They've only picked up twenty five points on the road
this season. Absolutely miserable team right now. Like I would
lean to the under here the unders five and a
half and these this would during normal times, this would
probably be a six. They might even be a six
and a half. That's shaded to the under with Vig
it's five and a half because these teams just aren't
scoring goals. Now. It doesn't mean that they're not going
to go out and light it up tonight, because it's
a mean this game for both teams. But I am
not If I had to put my hard earned money
on these teams to score goals and go over the total,
I wouldn't do it. It'd be under or nothing, kind
of like your new jersey or nothing. I just don't know,
and we'll see what happens in this game. But I've
harped on this pretty much the whole season that this
team just has no heart. Andrew, they played against the
Ottawa Senators on home ice and that was on Saturday nights,
and I talked about how I like the over in
that game and it finished five too. They only got
into it and fought. When the score was done, it's
five to two, and all of a sudden, they're throwing
around bodies and they're throwing punches and what have you.
Why not try and inspire your team to play a
little bit better in the second period. They used to
have that. They used to have that where they had
a guy out who could go out there and think that.
It's changed for the Leaps. They're going to finish second last,
and they're going to finish last in the Atlantic. I
think Florida will pass them and they're going to finish
second last to the New York Rangers in the standings.
An absolute disaster for what the hockey mecha of the world.
Andrew is that what they call it.
Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is too karma is their pick
is top five protective. So how awesome would it be
if they end up with like the sixth or seventh pick, right,
Because if they.
Speaker 2: Get a top five pick, they get to keep it.
Speaker 4: But if it's six or seventh pick, guess who gets
their first round pick?
Speaker 2: The Boston Bruins.
Speaker 4: So if they if they finish anywhere besides the bottom five,
they do not even get to keep that draft pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not going to finish bottom five because
you look at the Western Conference and I think it's
the Western Conference that has a bunch of teams that
are on like fifty points. I mean, let me have
a quick look at it. But just to mention it
to you, guys, you can look at the Western Conference
and you have Vancouver on forty three points, you have
Saint Louis on fifty three, you have Calgary on fifty five,
you have Chicago on fifty six, and you have the
Winnie pick 's on fifty eight. There's five teams right
there that have less than sixty points. And then you
have the New York Rangers who have fifty four points.
The Leafs currently sit at sixty four, so they're what
seventh right now, Andrew, and about six points ahead of
the sixth place team, So they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna lose their good they are screwed.
Speaker 1: My heart bleeds anyways. But that said, Andrew, give us
some prop play winners please.
Speaker 4: All right, So yesterday it was not a great day
with the guys scoring goals.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest.
Speaker 4: And you know what's the worst part, Karm is that
lately I've been looking at you know. I'm checking the board.
I'm looking at some of the picks that I that
I released for the show, and every single guy had
like two points. They all had like a great game,
they just didn't score like two or three shots, one
or two points, and like how much you know how
good the prices are on some of these guys if
you bet them to get two points. Anyway, we're back
in action. This is plus seven thirteen, so a pretty
good price here. Let's rock with Carmines guy and the
Calder the Future Calder Trophy winner Matthew Shaeffer three plus
shots on goal. The Anaheim Ducks give up a lot
of shots, but they also give up a lot of shots,
specifically against defenseman Matthew Schaeffer that over one and a
half shots heavily juiced over two and a half shots
on goal. You got a good plus price, bowl horvat
anytime point for him. Let's go to the Vegas Golden
Knights Detroit Red Wings. We're gonna go Lucas Raymond one
point and Pavel do'rifayev one point. One point from two
players on each team or one player on each team,
I should say Raymond and Dori Fayev to each get
a point, Shaefer shots and Horvat on his points. Carl,
this is actually a pretty good price at plus seven
thirteen U. And for what it's worth, guys, I will
be playing these as two indis of course, the plus
two eight and the plus one sixty four, and we'll
get all four together as well. Not a bad looking
graphic either, I'd say here, Karen, just saying, not a
bad looking graphic. We'll take that here plus seven thirteen.
Speaker 1: I am impressed, my friend. Let's get some winners from you.
I would love to cash some some additional tickets. I
would also love to cash today's pod play, so I
will preface this. This pod play is actually one of
my client plays as well too, so I will say that,
but it is not. It is attached to the package
I have loaded up today, which is another game where
I have a best bet four percent play on, and
then I added this one as a as a bonus
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I am going to take the Seattle krack in yes,
release the krack in Andrew Seattle minus one forty. The
line seems to be moving in their direction, so it's
a little higher at the moment. Let me see if
I can get that up on the screen. There we
go minus one. We're at seventy nine to thirty five.
We're about to cross over that eight thousand dollars range
starting with five K. The Kraken two miserable games on
the road post Olympic break. They come home, they play
two very good games, including beating the Carolina Hurricanes the
last time out two to one. Now they get it
a they get a Saint Louis team coming to town.
We don't know if this team is going to even
be short handed tonight. If they move some players between
now in game time, they could very well be short
in this game. But they're also a team that is
one in ten their last eleven games on the road.
Saint Louis Is. There's no way you could get me
to bet Saint Louis on the road in this spot.
Give me the Seattle crack and three points holding on
to the last playoff spot, three points out of the
top spot in the Pacific and the number two seed overall,
and they're holding the eighth spot right now, so a
big win for them tonight minus one forty. Let's get
the money.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing with this Kracking team, Karen, pretenders or contenders.
We're gonna find out, maybe maybe this game might not
be the game we find out of their contenders, but
we're going to find out what type of team they
are moving forward, because you know, it's the team that
I think is better than people give them credit for.
If this team was wearing a New York Rangers jersey,
would people be giving them more credit.
Speaker 2: I think they probably would be.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Andrew, you know what I mean. Like,
they're right there, so at home, they're very good, and
they're on this homestand right now. So they won two games,
the last one being the important one because Carolina was
playing some very good hockey. They get Saint Louis tonight.
Then they have a couple of days off and the
Ottawa Senators come to town. But at least they get
some rest in that spot, which is a good thing.
And they're at home. Then they're off a couple of
days and they get the Nashville Predators still in Seattle,
so it's very favorable for them. And then two days
later they play their final game of this home standing
they play the Colorado Avalanche. That's going to be a toughee.
But those these three games prior to facing Colorado, the Blues,
the Ottawa Senators, the Nashville Predators, should be games. Ottawa
is probably the toughest of those three where they pick
up points and move up the standings. There are three
points behind the Vegas Golden Knights with a shot, and
then after the Colorado won. Just looking at some of
their games on the schedule, they're playing non playoff teams,
the Vancouver Canucks, the Florida Panthers. That game is in
Seattle as well too. The Nashville again. They got Columbus,
they get Florida again, They got Tampa a couple of times.
So I think it's a favorable schedule for the Seattle
Kraken to maintain at the very least a top eight spot,
but also move up the Pacific. And who knows at
the end of the day, the Edmonton others with their goaltending,
the you know, the Anaheim Ducks. Who knows what is
going to happen in that Pacific. It is up for grabs.
There are three points out of the Pacific lead right now.
You just never know. Release the krack.
Speaker 2: In, release the crack, and let's see how they do. Carm.
Speaker 4: It's nice to see new teams in the mix, as
I've been saying to you. Nice to see new teams
in the mix.
Speaker 2: That's for sure.
Speaker 4: So we got a prop parlay, we got a p
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The hockey run has been great for me since the Olympics.
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Speaker 1: It is. You know, at the very least, you get
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A couple winners on Monday, a couple four percent plays
winter yesterday with the five percent play, the customer appreciation
play ended in a push. The total landed on a
six in the Minnesota and the Tampa game. But we're
just plowing forward. Sometimes my plays are going to come
out at noon one o'clock. Again, much like Andrew says,
it is confirming sometimes, especially these next two or three days. Guys,
with the trade deadline, the worst thing you could do
is release a play early in the morning and then
that nothingber goes against you and player and clients are
getting the worst of it. So one o'clock plays are
up by then, the morning skates are normally done and
we can go off of who the goalies are as
well too. One play in soccer which goes this afternoon
at around two thirty three o'clock in the English Premier League.
So we'll look to keep a strong run going in soccer.
Number one in twenty twenty six at wager talk with
soccer plays and gearing up man the World Cup straight ahead,
so that Cup to Cup specialists still available, get the
rest of the NHL season and the playoffs and then
the World Cup looking forward to it. So with that said, Andrew,
who do we have on tomorrow? I think we have
the press on tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Don't tell them that we want them to tune in
a lot that but President is doing really well.
Speaker 2: It's done a great role.
Speaker 4: So make sure you guys tune in for that check
it out. Should be a really fun show. And of
course tomorrow is a lot more games. We'll try and
do a little bit of a Q and A for tomorrow,
So if you guys drop your questions, a couple of
games will break down a lot more, but then we'll
do a little Q and A to touch on all
kinds of the games.
Speaker 2: Should be a great week. It should be a great week.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, I would not be shocked,
especially Thursday and especially Friday, if we have some trades dropped.
Speaker 2: Well we're live.
Speaker 4: On puck Time, but that will do it for today's show.
Today's Puck Time, Brian Leonard, Carman Bianco, Andrew McGinnis.
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching.
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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next time.